WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:12.880 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of The 2 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:16.640 Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. Special guest 3 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:19.399 David O. dB Baker. I was gonna say, you know, 4 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:21.160 I kind of rehearsed and open, and I was gonna 5 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:23.000 say the one and only, and then I said, well, 6 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.399 actually he's not actually the one and only. We had 7 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:28.199 to put odb in there because there is another David 8 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:30.079 Baker who I never see, So it doesn't even matter 9 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:30.920 as far as you're concerned. 10 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:31.760 You're the one and only. 11 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:34.240 Yeah, I think I can drop the O now. I 12 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:36.079 haven't seen him the sole World series. 13 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:37.640 Yeah he didn't get drafted, right. 14 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:40.280 Yeah, he didn't get drafted, And yeah, I haven't seen him. 15 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:41.320 But hopefully he's okay. 16 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:44.840 I think he's probably okay. He's probably he's probably on 17 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:48.399 a beach somewhere for all we know. Really no agenda 18 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:51.640 here today. David and I will talk about whatever. You know, 19 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:55.000 we're good friends. You're I will say that I'm not 20 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:58.000 sure anyone loves it more than you that the World series. 21 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:01.640 Yeah, I heard you say today that you thought there 22 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.719 might be a new contender for who loves it more? 23 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:06.239 And I was a little offended, but I think you're 24 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.359 talking about your new boy, NICKI Palmo. 25 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:11.480 Yeah, but then I you know what, you know what 26 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:13.560 happened today. I was walking through the ten k studfield, 27 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:15.760 which you just finished up, and I saw you with 28 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.079 your little lunch bag, and I said, you know what 29 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:20.920 I like a guy who brings the lunch pale to work. 30 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.239 That's what I like, because I often bring mine to work. 31 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:24.959 I was like, so, yeah, you're back at the top. 32 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:30.840 All shout out to Nicole Baker, my wife, who prepares wonderful, 33 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.920 healthy meals every day for me. It's so hard here, 34 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:37.120 like I mean, even if you, even if I don't 35 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:38.719 want to get help, it's just so hard to get 36 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.200 food on breaks. We don't have dinner breaks on all 37 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.920 of them, and on the tournaments that do have dinner breaks, 38 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:47.159 it's always like a rush because like it's big field 39 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:49.799 and hard to get in places, and it's just a 40 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:51.159 pain in the bud. 41 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.879 So are you a dinner break or no dinner break? 42 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:54.079 Guy? 43 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:56.599 I mean, I prefer no dinner break, especially here at 44 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:59.959 the World Series, because you know, my wife prepares nice 45 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.799 for me, So I'm with you. I prefer dinner yeah, 46 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:05.599 I mean, I just I just want to play poker. Man, 47 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.959 I just want to play poker and then I want 48 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:08.479 to go home. 49 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.319 So yeah, well we are a week and half into 50 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:15.719 the series. Now what's your overall impression of the summer. 51 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.840 That's a very open question, so answered however you want. 52 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.759 Well, I mean, I'll say it kind of like crept 53 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:26.240 up on us. I think we say that every year, 54 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:28.039 But I mean, like I usually have like all this 55 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:30.599 like excitement leading up to it, and then all of 56 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:33.120 a sudden it was here. And like you you stated 57 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:35.000 on the first couple of podcasts, it did kind of 58 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:37.879 feel a little slow at first. But now that the 59 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.240 fantasy points are rolling in and we're giving away some 60 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.719 bracelets and you know, I've made a couple, you know, 61 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:47.039 decent runs, and I've watched some friends go deep and stuff, 62 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:50.639 so it kind of feels like we're here now. So yeah, 63 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:54.840 I mean I love it. The new stage is obviously fantastic. 64 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.960 I got an opportunity to play there, and we can 65 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.039 talk about that that hell youth match that I got 66 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:03.879 to play on on on stage that was kind of cool, but. 67 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.400 With a fold that you said was going to haunt you. 68 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.840 Yeah, yeah, I mean we can you want to talk about. 69 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:14.479 That Yeah, sure you got you got bluffed. Yeah, well 70 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:16.159 that's the thing. 71 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:18.680 It's kind of it's kind of uh, it's it's kind 72 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.120 of even weird that even played that tournament, because I mean, 73 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.639 most people know me for being mixed games and then 74 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:28.080 like big Field, No Limit I've started, I've dabbled in 75 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:32.520 in Poco Go studios the last six months and you know, 76 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:34.879 kind of butted ahead with some of the crushers there, 77 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:36.680 so I kind of feel like my No Limit games 78 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:39.120 kind of progressed. And then you know, I got the 79 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:43.360 great invite to play in the Poco Go twenty five 80 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.000 K heads up. So you know, I did a little 81 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.840 work and practiced and played No Limit and no spoilers, 82 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:57.599 but I kind of wanted to play more. So I 83 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.199 was like, you know what, I did all the work, 84 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.240 I'm just gonna go and give it a shot and 85 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:04.800 play here. So I did, and I mean I felt good. 86 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:07.800 I mean I loved it. It was actually somebody asked 87 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:09.639 me today what my favorite event here that I look 88 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:11.400 forward to, and I was, you know, trying to go 89 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:12.719 through them all, and then all of a sudden, I 90 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:14.240 was like I was like, I know, I felt like 91 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:17.639 super excited. One day this week, and I couldn't remember 92 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:18.800 what it was, and then I remembered it was the 93 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.959 heads Up, and probably that's going to be like my 94 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:26.160 most favorite event coming going forward. I was lucky enough, 95 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:29.040 not lucky enough. I actually beat him. I beat Sergio Io, 96 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.000 which is, you know, obviously like a super crusher, and 97 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:34.879 I didn't really yet lucky to do it. I mean, 98 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.160 obviously I probably had the better cards, you know, as 99 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:40.040 it worked out, because he's probably beats me more times 100 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:42.160 out of ten than I beat him. But it wasn't like, 101 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:43.959 you know, I got it in better or anything. And 102 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:45.680 then I played helm Youth and I got to play 103 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.360 on the stage and that was fun, and you know, 104 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.439 they they posted on Twitter. I ran a nice little 105 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.720 four bet bluff with seven deuce and that was kind 106 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:54.079 of that. 107 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:55.879 Was fun, but you didn't show it. 108 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:59.480 You know, I was going to show it, but then 109 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:02.120 I was like, I'm just gonna steal from them all day, 110 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:04.879 so I really don't want to. I really don't want 111 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:07.680 to show it. Uh yeah, I thought about it, but 112 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:10.439 I was like, you know, I think I can get 113 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:14.199 more equity by just but yeah, and then you know, 114 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:17.399 the big fold, I folded top pair and an okay 115 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:20.199 kicker in a spot that it's never supposed. 116 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:20.199 To be good. 117 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:21.920 I mean I had ten people come up to me 118 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:24.120 who are better than me, and they all said, you 119 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.480 played that hand fine, like that's a that's a fold 120 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.959 versus him every time. You know, if it would have 121 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.560 been Alex Foxen or Cal Anderson or somebody like that, 122 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:33.680 I would have called because I would have thought they 123 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.879 had more just bluffs in the range. I just thought 124 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:39.600 I just thought Phil would never bluff it off, and 125 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.000 he didn't. He had top pair as well, but it 126 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.199 was a worst kicker, and I think he just kind 127 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:45.800 of was like, I don't want to make any more 128 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.839 decisions this hand and just kind of put it in. 129 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:50.920 I mean, it's it's hard when a player you you 130 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.279 probably know pretty well in terms of how they play. 131 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.759 I mean, I think we all know Phil's style very well, 132 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.720 and then he kind of just goes off the reservation. 133 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.000 You know, it was weird. 134 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:01.560 I sat there for two and a half minute. I 135 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:03.839 never used time banks. I mean, you've you've watched me 136 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.120 in the studio. I mean, I give my time banks 137 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:08.079 back at the end. Uh, you know, I never I 138 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.079 never used one, and I didn't use one in two 139 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.079 matches here, and then I used four in that one 140 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.560 hand in that one spot. So I don't know. I 141 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:16.759 mean I should have probably given more credence to the 142 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:18.560 fact that he had just doubled me up and he 143 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:20.839 was tilted. I forget that. Like Phil just goes on 144 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.120 random tilt and and does things. 145 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.720 And yah zooms just yeah, just zoom zooms. 146 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.920 And you know, I don't know, it is what it is. 147 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:31.079 But the experience was awesome. So you know, back on 148 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.199 like the summer thing, you know, being up there on 149 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.800 the stage, it kind of like felt real, and you know, 150 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.160 seeing some of these prize pools, now million dollars prize 151 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:42.120 pool for the ten the ten kgg and and Nolan 152 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.480 Meduce was up and it's like there were everything's kind 153 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:47.800 of been up except for some of the big field 154 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:51.120 no limits. I know you've had a big discussion, you know, 155 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.240 over the days about the field numbers, and I think 156 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:57.319 I think some of the perspective is a little lost 157 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:01.160 on the field numbers, because what's happening is a there's 158 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:03.759 three events a day where there used to only be two, 159 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.959 and then every like other day or every two days 160 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:10.079 there would be a third event, so I think that. 161 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:12.839 And then also people are just getting trapped in some 162 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.120 of these events that like they have multi flights. So 163 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.920 you know when you played the Mystery Millions and you bagged, 164 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:21.800 you couldn't play things for days, and then you know, 165 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:24.519 same thing with this Monster Stack. They're just basically trapping 166 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:27.600 people in events, which is giving them kind of days 167 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.639 off in between. So it's kind of even made it 168 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.560 a little bit harder for me to play some of 169 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:34.360 those things, Like I'd love to play the Monster but 170 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.920 I just I just don't want to play like day 171 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.519 one A and then you know, I get trapped and 172 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:44.160 I bag, you know, fourteen lines and it's a fast structure. 173 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:46.279 You know, you just kind of got to come back 174 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:49.160 like four days later, and you know, there's all these 175 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.120 events that I want to play. So that's kind of 176 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:53.639 been my conundrum with some of these. 177 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:56.040 But I mean, you're also somebody who you know, you're 178 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:59.160 not going to leave the divacop like you're basically locked 179 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:02.639 inside these walls, and that's by your choice. When did 180 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:05.680 that start for you? Like what when or was that 181 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:06.680 always in your career? 182 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.319 So you know, I fell in love with the World series, 183 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:16.079 and you know It's weird because I know I shouldn't 184 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.040 have this, and my wife tells me all the time 185 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:19.920 I don't have it, and other people do. But I 186 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:24.079 have this complex that like I want to be considered 187 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:28.360 one of the lead players, and she's just like, well, 188 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:30.360 you are, you are. I'm like, no, I don't. People 189 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.240 don't think about me the way that they think about 190 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:35.440 those some of the other guys, and rightfully so they're better, 191 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.159 they're more accomplished, but it's like I want to fit 192 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.360 into that. I want to be in. I want to 193 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.639 be in the discussion when you know, Hall of Fame 194 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.399 comes up and legacy and those kind of things. Even 195 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:49.759 though I'm not now, I know that, Like, you know, 196 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:51.879 I have four bracelets, and I have a WPT title, 197 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:54.240 a real WPT title, not one of these you know, 198 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:56.159 little ones that are one hundred and fifty K. I 199 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.120 want to you know, I want LABC when it was 200 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.080 a real one. I have four real bracelets, you know, 201 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:04.799 not the online in Delaware. No offense to the Delaware winners, 202 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:08.960 but you know, but I don't think that I ever 203 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:12.279 really get discussed in that elite category. And it's a 204 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:14.639 chip on my shoulder that I want to be considered 205 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.080 that So if I go and and I love playing 206 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:18.720 at the win, but if I go, when I win 207 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.000 the fifteen hundred at the win, that doesn't do anything. 208 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.000 It does not do anything for my legacy. And even 209 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:28.200 though it's stupid, like it should just all be about 210 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.759 the money. I guess that's why I'm number one in 211 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:32.759 the heart rankings because I love it, you know, and 212 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:38.279 I want to be considered, you know, in that top echelon. 213 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:40.480 So I know I need I know I need to 214 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.879 get the five, six, seven, eight bracelets. So the only 215 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:45.240 way for me to do it is to be here. 216 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:50.320 I'm not I'm not like so focused on that that 217 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:53.240 I'm going to forego some of these bigger field, no 218 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.120 limit things, you know. Like I started today playing in 219 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.080 the Big O, which is a much harder bracelet to 220 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.759 win than the ten case Stud. But I started in 221 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:02.799 it because, you know, I knew that the field was 222 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:04.480 going to be weaker. I knew that there was going 223 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.000 to be a lot of money up top and whatnot. 224 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:10.200 You know, I busted pretty quick and I wasn't really 225 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:12.399 feeling it, so I didn't re enter and I came 226 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:15.000 and played the stud. But I'm not foregoing some of 227 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:19.519 those things, you know, only searching for you know, nothing 228 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:23.440 but the bracelet being the most important. But it still is, like, 229 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:25.799 I mean, the bracelet is is what matters. I mean, 230 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.440 I would much rather win one hundred and fifty k 231 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.960 fifteen hundred RAS than when two hundred K for finishing 232 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:37.399 eighteen eighth and something else, Like I know that's stupid, 233 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:41.480 but you know, I don't know. That's just for me. 234 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.759 It's just all about accomplishing goals and winning bracelets and 235 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.960 getting my name, you know, talked about when you know, 236 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:53.480 when things come up that's important to me. And you know, 237 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.279 my kids are grown, you know, my wife and I 238 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:00.720 live you know, happily and comfortably. That's kind of like 239 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:01.600 that's what drives me. 240 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.000 So, I mean, I I would agree that you're not 241 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.360 in that conversation. I don't agree that you shouldn't be 242 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:10.360 in that conversation. I think you should be, you know, 243 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:12.919 I like I always think, like you're always on my 244 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.360 list for fantasy and that sort of stuff, just because 245 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.200 I think so much should be said. There's a lot 246 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.399 of weight that should be on people who just show 247 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:22.639 up and compete to the best of their ability every 248 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.039 single day. You know, like I feel like you're somebody 249 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:28.879 who's you're probably always playing your a game or at 250 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.360 least as close to it as you can on a 251 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.480 consistent basis. Where I see a lot of other people, 252 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.200 they go up and down by the day, you know, 253 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:38.159 and that's very hard to do. Now that said, I 254 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:40.200 also understand the other side of it, where you're at 255 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.320 where you have that drive to like want to be 256 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.480 the best, which I think is ultimately I mean, I 257 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:46.519 know what your wife is saying, yes, but also like 258 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:49.320 I think it's the best players need that drive, yeah, 259 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:51.320 like you have to push yourself. 260 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:54.200 Look, I mean when when faced with the decision this year, 261 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.320 you know, I own a twenty five K fantasy team 262 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:59.679 and I'm the you know, wive partners, but I'm the 263 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.240 lead voice. And Scott sever was one of my main 264 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.559 targets this year because he has that that as well, 265 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:12.879 like that he wants to be, you know, always considered, 266 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.840 you know, the best, and I knew that coming off 267 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:20.799 of a down year he would take it personally that 268 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:25.039 people forgot about him and they didn't consider him as 269 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:28.159 you know, a slam dunk with Sean deeb like in 270 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:32.039 the hundreds in the Grano and so I like targeted 271 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.480 that and I have that same drive. You know, Scott's 272 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.240 a better player than I am. He's more accomplished than 273 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.080 I am, but we we vibe on the fact that 274 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:44.679 we have that same drive to prove people wrong consistently 275 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.399 or prove them right. Like I'm sure he had it 276 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:49.919 last year as well, like he wanted to prove that 277 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.399 he wasn't a one hit wonder with the not that 278 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:54.000 he's a one hit wonder, but a one hit wonder 279 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:55.679 as Player of the Year, like that he wanted to 280 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:58.600 go out and do it again. But I think he's 281 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:01.600 kind of one of like me, Like we strive on 282 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.320 the negative more than the positive. I don't know that 283 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:06.840 to be fact. I might be putting words in his mouth, 284 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:11.000 but when people tell me like how good I am, 285 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:14.120 or like elite, or like when I had like my 286 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.440 best years, I followed him up sometimes with some of 287 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:20.320 my worst years. But when I've done poorly, I've always 288 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:24.159 followed those up with successful years because just the drive 289 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.879 to prove people wrong that didn't believe in me through 290 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.320 the whole thing, which is stupid. And I know that 291 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:30.879 it's fabricated. 292 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:32.039 And but I don't think it's stupid at all. Yeah, 293 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:35.200 I mean I feel the same way. Like I played 294 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.960 sports my whole life. I always felt that way. I mean, 295 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.000 I feel that way like in my own poker now, 296 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:44.240 Like and it's not on the level that you're up 297 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.639 there trying to achieve, but like I basically want to 298 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:49.200 win a poker tournament just to fucking prove people that 299 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.120 I can actually do the fucking thing, like, you know, 300 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.159 especially when like I'm trying, I'm supposed to be sitting 301 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:55.639 in a commentary booth like talking about hands and stuff 302 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:56.399 like that, and people. 303 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:57.440 Might be like, well, who the hell is this guy? 304 00:13:57.519 --> 00:13:57.879 What is he? 305 00:13:58.039 --> 00:13:59.360 I'm like, can I just win a damn tournament? 306 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:01.120 Like, not like I'm not talking about like, you know, 307 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.120 the south Point Nightly shout out to the south Point Nightly, 308 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:04.720 but I'm talking like a meaningful tournament. 309 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:06.279 Can I actually do something? You know? 310 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.240 So I understand what you're saying. I feel the same 311 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.600 way sitting here, Like I want to put out the 312 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.399 best podcast and the best content and have the best 313 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:16.440 content team and like do the best stuff like I 314 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:19.240 And it's always going to drive you, you know, and 315 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:21.639 it eats at you. I get it. So I definitely 316 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:25.159 feel what you go through. And the best people in 317 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:27.559 any industry, it's not just poker. They have to have 318 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:28.039 that drive. 319 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:28.720 You just have to. 320 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:33.080 Yeah. And and you know it's funny because, uh, you know, 321 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.039 I'm bringing up Seaver a lot just because he's on 322 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.360 my mind because I drafted him and we've been talking 323 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:39.480 a good bit the last couple of weeks. But he said, 324 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:41.480 as soon as your draft room were like welcome team, 325 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:44.919 He's like, people have the memory of a goldfish, and uh, 326 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.600 and that's kind of that's kind of it. It's like, 327 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:50.840 what have you done for me lately? And it's it's 328 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:53.759 like it was weird because you know, I want to 329 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:56.200 brace it last year and so it's like come into 330 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.440 this year and it's like you would think like that's 331 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.000 but then I you know, I went to Poco goa 332 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:02.799 studio and I had a couple of seconds and I 333 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:04.320 was like, Okay, I can I can do this. And 334 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:06.519 then I did two series and I didn't didn't do much, 335 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:08.639 and then all of a sudden, I think, well, everybody 336 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:10.360 must think I suck because I didn't do anything. And 337 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:12.799 it's so stupid. It's like a ten or fifteen tournament 338 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:16.960 sample size. But it's just like, if I'm not constantly 339 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:21.039 proving that I can do it, I feel like people 340 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:24.080 doubt me. And it's so dumb sometime. I mean, I 341 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:25.799 don't know. I mean, I keep saying it's dumb, but 342 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.960 I mean, I know, the reality is that these things 343 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:33.399 nobody just continues to win constantly. You know, it's a poke. 344 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:35.480 Their poker tournaments, and they're high variants and there's a 345 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:36.960 lot of really good players and there's a lot of 346 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.559 luck involved as well. So even if you're the most skilled, 347 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:44.519 which I'm not, you aren't going to win everything. So 348 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.240 I don't know, it's it's what drives me, and so 349 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.799 that's what I need, and so I'm just gonna harness that. 350 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:55.320 It's you know, I just always harness that as my motivation. 351 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:58.480 And look, whatever you need out there, you know, if 352 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.679 your feet on the negg, if you feed on the positive, 353 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:05.279 if you feed on like whatever it is, whatever your 354 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:06.960 motivation is, you just got to find it. 355 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:16.559 Are you someone who you know while you're playing, Like, 356 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:18.840 is it to the point where like you think about 357 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:20.440 it while you're playing, or is it more like I 358 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:22.240 think about it off the table when I'm at the table, 359 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:25.919 I just focus in on the task at hand. 360 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.519 No, I mean I think I'm pretty focused at the 361 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:32.960 table on kind of what I'm doing and what's going on. 362 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.480 But I don't know, it's just what gets me to 363 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:38.360 come in every day. Like I woke up today, I 364 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:41.919 mean I was tired. I woke up at like six 365 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.240 o'clock this morning, and I was, you know, it's hard 366 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:47.320 to go back to sleep, and I found a way 367 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:50.159 to like sleep another hour or so, and it was 368 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:53.200 just kind of like I kind of was like, man, 369 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:54.879 I would be nice to take a day off, and 370 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:58.039 then I'm like, I'm not taking I'm not taking a 371 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:00.679 day off. This is the world. Serious. I feel like, well, 372 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:02.399 why don't you just Yeah, she was like, well, why 373 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.519 don't you just hang around a little while. So I 374 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.039 hung around nextra hour and I skipped the monster stack 375 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.960 and just played Big O' andstud But uh, like that's 376 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:11.880 taking a break from me. I came in. I came 377 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.559 in at uh, you know, at one instead of at eleven. 378 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.680 So that's that's like me giving myself a break. 379 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:21.400 I like, I like that side of the world series. 380 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.640 You know, I've always thought that endurance is part of 381 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.519 this giant thing, like you have to be able to 382 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.519 well play long days, but then also play those days 383 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:32.920 over and over and over again hopefully you know, hopefully 384 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:34.880 you're you're going deep over and over and over again, 385 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.039 and you have to have really thick skin and you're 386 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:39.079 gonna get punched in the face a lot out there. 387 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:41.000 I mean, it's tournament poker, that's just the nature of 388 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.680 the beast. But just constantly getting up and being like, well, 389 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:44.440 I gotta go back. 390 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:46.440 I got to The people that I love and admire 391 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.920 the most in this business are the people who, regardless 392 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:51.920 of the results, I know they're going to be here 393 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:56.839 for forty five days. Yeah, And you know, it's it's funny. 394 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:58.680 You've did it. You've done it. You did the twenty 395 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.440 five k draft for years, and you talk to all 396 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:04.079 these people, and I get people who text me and 397 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:05.680 they want to be part of the team, and they 398 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:07.400 want to be drafted and they want all this stuff. 399 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.119 And it's like everybody's got a schedule until they go, oh, 400 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:13.119 for twelve and they're now in seventy thousand. You know, 401 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.480