1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Okay, let's just jump right in. We're about to do 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,839 a deep dive into a set of sources that really 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,080 force us to look at the biggest question there is 4 00:00:08,439 --> 00:00:09,519 where did we come from? 5 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Right, and not in a philosophical sense, but in a 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,160 biological nuss and bolts kind. 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,199 Speaker 1: Of way exactly. And we're starting with a statistic about you, 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,480 about your body that is well, it's pretty mind blowing, 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,000 it really is. It changes the timeline, It totally reframes it. Okay, 10 00:00:25,039 --> 00:00:28,160 so here's the hook. Think about all of human evolutionary 11 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:33,359 history millions of years, right, grindingly slow, small changes over. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Vast periods in the standard Darwinian model, slow, steady, incremental, precisely. 13 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: But then a team of anthropologists, including doctor John Hawks 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,359 from the University of Wisconsin, did a massive analysis of 15 00:00:45,439 --> 00:00:48,200 human DNA and found something that just doesn't. 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,359 Speaker 2: Fit, something that breaks the model. 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: It shatters it. In just the last five thousand years, 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,000 I mean, that's a blink of an eye, right when 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,119 ancient Egypt and Sumeria were getting started. Our DNA has 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,439 changed by seven percent. 21 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:02,359 Speaker 2: Sound small until you can textualize it. 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,079 Speaker 1: Well, let's do that. That seven percent change represents a 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,599 rate of evolution that is one hundred times faster than 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,239 in any previous five thousand year period in our entire history. 25 00:01:13,439 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: One hundred times. 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,519 Speaker 1: It's like our genetic code suddenly got strapped to a rocket. Yeah, 27 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:19,959 so the question we have to start with is why 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,319 what happened five thousand years ago that pushed the fast 29 00:01:23,359 --> 00:01:27,359 forward button on human evolution? What caused that monumental shift? 30 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: And that question, that sudden, inexplicable acceleration is the thread 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,680 we're going to pull on for this entire deep dive. 32 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,120 We have just a fascinating stack of source material here. 33 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:40,920 We really do covers genetics, archaeology, even some pretty advanced 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,319 theoretical math, and all of it seems to point towards 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,400 a single, very audacious conclusion, which is that life on Earth, 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,920 and specifically our species, Homo sapiens, might be the result 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,480 of well of intentional design of ancient and maybe even 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,439 ongoing manipulation by some kind. 39 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:01,799 Speaker 1: Of external intelligence hybridization. 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: Hybridization, genetic tinkering, call it, which you will. Our mission 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,319 today is to get plast the easy speculation and actually 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,639 look at the data presented in these sources. 43 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: We're looking for the fingerprints. 44 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: The smoking gun yeah, but not just in old stories 45 00:02:15,479 --> 00:02:18,080 or myths. We're looking in the code that's inside every 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,800 cell in your body right now. We're looking at strange 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,240 bones dug up from the ground, and at mathematical patterns 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,080 hidden deep in our biology. We are charting a map 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,719 of evidence that suggests our blueprint wasn't entirely our own. 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: And it's a journey that's going to take us to 51 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:35,599 some very strange places. We're going to talk about giant 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,360 viruses that seem to defy classification, creatures from the bottom 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,439 of the ocean, and. 54 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:44,039 Speaker 2: Skulls, skulls that challenge the very definition of what it 55 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:44,840 means to be human. 56 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: But it all comes back to one thing, doesn't it. 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,840 The one language that all of this might. 58 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:51,759 Speaker 2: Share, the universal language of DNA. So yeah, let's get 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,039 ready to have some pretty foundational assumptions about our own 60 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:56,360 origin story challenged thoroughly. 61 00:02:56,439 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So to really start digging into this idea of extraterrestrials, 62 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:05,800 we have to begin at the smallest possible scale, the microscopic. 63 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely the building blocks, and one. 64 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Of the most just startling biological discoveries in recent memory 65 00:03:11,439 --> 00:03:15,840 happened in Paris, France back in July of twenty thirteen. 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,479 Speaker 2: Right, this was the announcement of a completely new class 67 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:22,879 of microbe. They were so huge and so genetically bizarre 68 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,199 they called them Pandora viruses. 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,439 Speaker 1: As in Pandora's box. 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Exactly. Opening it up revealed a whole host of things 71 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,719 nobody was prepared for. You See, when we find a 72 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:35,879 new virus, it's usually, you know, a cousin of something 73 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:38,680 we already know, a new strain of flu, for example, right, it. 74 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:40,479 Speaker 1: Fits into the family tree of life somewhere. 75 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,919 Speaker 2: But these Pandora viruses, they were different. First, their size 76 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 was shocking. You could see them with a standard like 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,520 microscope for a virus, that is enormous. But that wasn't 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,479 the really strange part. 79 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:52,479 Speaker 1: The genome was. 80 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:55,159 Speaker 2: The genome was the bombshell. Get this, Yeah, up to 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,680 ninety four percent of the Pandora virus genome has absolutely 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,240 nothing in common with any other known life form on Earth. 83 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,159 Speaker 1: Wait, let's just sit with that for a second. Ninety 84 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:03,759 four percent. 85 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,879 Speaker 2: Think about what that means. You sequence its DNA and 86 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:11,199 you run it against this massive global database of every 87 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:14,960 organism ever sequenced, and for ninety four percent of it, 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,160 the computer just says no match. Found. 89 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: It's like finding a creature on Mars. You'd expect it's 90 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:20,360 DNA to be. 91 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: Alien, right, but finding it here in our own oceans 92 00:04:24,439 --> 00:04:27,319 it suggests we stumbled upon something from a completely different 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,000 tree of life. I mean, it's a biological anomaly so 94 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,279 huge it forces you to redraw the map. 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: So that number ninety four percent unknown. It just screams alien, 96 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,279 doesn't it. It feels like we dredged the bottom of the 97 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,399 ocean and pulled up something from a sci fi movie. 98 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:43,759 Speaker 2: It does, it absolutely does. But, and this is the 99 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:50,439 critical part, there is one profound, single similarity that changes everything. Okay, 100 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:54,160 despite being almost completely alien in its genetic makeup, the 101 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:57,519 Pandora virus shares one crucial thing with you, with me, 102 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,759 with every tree, every bacteria on this planet uses DNA, 103 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,879 uses DNA as its core operating system, the double. 104 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: Helix, and that one common feature is what proponents of 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,319 the panspermia hypothesis jump on. 106 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: It's their strongest piece of evidence to date, panspermia, the 107 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:17,319 idea that life didn't start here but was seated from space. 108 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,120 It's a massive. 109 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: Boost from this because if this incredibly foreign thing still 110 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,360 uses DNA, it. 111 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: Suggests that DNA isn't just our local system. It suggests 112 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,480 DNA is the universal language of life, the default operating 113 00:05:31,519 --> 00:05:33,000 system for the entire cosmos. 114 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Okay, so if DNA is the universal os then the 115 00:05:35,879 --> 00:05:39,959 whole concept of an alien suddenly gets a lot more specific. 116 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,240 It's not some weird silicon based blob. 117 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: No, it means life out there, including any intelligent extraterrestrials, 118 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:49,680 would be based on the very same fundamental structure as us. 119 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: Which implies a deep seated genetic compatibility. 120 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,399 Speaker 2: A compatibility, a biological bridge between us and them. And 121 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:57,720 this is where the theory takes a very sharp and 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,160 controversial turn. It connects this maleca the reality directly to 123 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,600 well to the alien abduction phenomenon. 124 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Right, This is where my curiosity really gets going. If 125 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,199 we're already compatible, why would some external intelligence be so 126 00:06:09,319 --> 00:06:11,279 interested in human genetic material? 127 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: That's the question. 128 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:16,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you hear these accounts, and they are incredibly consistent. 129 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:20,560 Abductees report these intrusive medical exams, and what's always being 130 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,079 taken the. 131 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: Core components blood, sperm, eggs, the very stuff of reproduction. 132 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:28,959 Speaker 1: Why that focus? If you just want to study a species, 133 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:33,160 you can take a skin cell why the reproductive material specifically, well. 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: The interpretation from the sources we're looking at is it's complex. 135 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,600 They suggest this isn't just random sampling. This is active 136 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:43,439 genetic work, tinkering. Tinkering is the perfect work. The theory 137 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,759 is that this intelligence is actively working to make its 138 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:51,000 more compatible with them, to close whatever genetic gaps still exists, 139 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,839 and what purpose. The long term goal, according to these sources, 140 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:57,480 is hybridization, a project aimed at creating a future union 141 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:01,160 where our two species are no longer separate but genetically 142 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:02,639 equal merged. 143 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: So this reframes the whole abduction narrative. It's not just 144 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:10,439 terrifying experimentation. It's a strategic, sophisticated biological agenda. 145 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: Yes, aimed at a genetic merger. And the entire premise 146 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:17,600 rests on that shared DNA structure, the same one we 147 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:20,879 see in the Pandora virus. It implies the cosmic blueprint 148 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,439 is shared and what's having now is just fine tuning. 149 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,759 Speaker 1: Okay, So if the DMA is universal, we're basically cosmic cousins, 150 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:32,399 and if they are working to close this genetic gap, 151 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,600 we should be able to see the results. You should, 152 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:37,639 we should be able to look at modern humans and 153 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,959 see signs of that progress. 154 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: Right now, that's the critical logical leap. Yes, if this 155 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:46,120 tinkering is an ongoing project, then we as a species 156 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:48,720 should be showing signs of directed evolution. 157 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Changes that aren't random, changes that. 158 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: Align with their goals, whatever those may be. 159 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,839 Speaker 1: So what kind of changes are we talking about? 160 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:53,879 Speaker 2: This? 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,199 Speaker 1: Sources point to some pretty specific trends they do. 162 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: They look for signs of, for lack of a better term, 163 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,920 a kind of physical softening. Softening, Yeah, things like decreasing 164 00:08:04,959 --> 00:08:08,759 testosterone levels across the population, an increase in physical frailty, 165 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,560 a general trend toward more androgynous physical traits. 166 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: But they pair that physical softing with one massive contradictory change. 167 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: The one we started with, the explosive, almost unnatural spike 168 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:23,879 in human intelligence. 169 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,079 Speaker 1: Exactly so a less robust body but a much much 170 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,279 more powerful mind. 171 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: And when you look at broad global trends in human biology, 172 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,720 the proponents of this theory point to some well, some 173 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,519 unsettling data that seems to fit this model, Like what 174 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,519 take the global decline in sperm counts? This isn't just 175 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,039 a rumor, It's a well documented worldwide phenomenon. That's been 176 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,679 studied for decades. 177 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: And it's happening while the world population is heading towards 178 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,679 ten billion people. 179 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,159 Speaker 2: Which is a huge contradiction. Right, You have this massive 180 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:58,799 population boom happening at the exact same time our fundamental 181 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:02,120 reproductive capacities declay evolutionarily. That makes no sense, No. 182 00:09:02,159 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't. If a species is successful, evolution should be 183 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,080 selecting for traits that make it more reproductively robust, not less. 184 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,960 So if an alien intelligence is trying to hybridize with us, 185 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,279 why would they push for traits that make us seem weaker. 186 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,919 Speaker 2: Ah, But that's where the theory pivots. It's a different 187 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,879 way of looking at it. Proponents say this isn't about 188 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:25,200 weakness or decay. They interpret this physical softening as evidence 189 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,000 that we are becoming genetically more compatible with them. How so, well, 190 00:09:29,159 --> 00:09:32,399 maybe their biology is inherently more delicate. Maybe their physiology 191 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,320 requires a less aggressive hormonal environment to thrive. 192 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,279 Speaker 1: So compatibility in this case doesn't mean becoming stronger in 193 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,120 an earthly sense. It means moving closer to their biological baseline. 194 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: Exactly. We're not evolving for Earth anymore. We're being modified 195 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,840 for them, And this brings us right to the idea 196 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:54,960 of our intelligence being a kind of a genetic trojan horse. 197 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,399 Speaker 1: I love that phrase. Explain what that means. 198 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: It means that the rapid rise in our cognitibilities that's 199 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,399 seven percent DNA change we talked about, wasn't an accident. 200 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,399 It was a deliberate strategic move. The physical changes make 201 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,879 the genetic cross possible, but the intelligence is the real 202 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,200 key to the whole program. 203 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: So our ability to build skyscrapers, write symphonies, decode our 204 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,159 own genome. That wasn't just a lucky break in natural 205 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:19,360 selection in this. 206 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: View, No, It's all part of a planned program. The 207 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,240 ultimate goal, the sources claim, is to guide humanity to 208 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:30,720 a point where the genetic crossing becomes well, not just easier, 209 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,720 but maybe even something we choose to do ourselves, facilitated 210 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:34,960 by our advanced intellect. 211 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,279 Speaker 1: Our minds were upgraded to prepare us for the merch That's. 212 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,279 Speaker 2: The theory, and we have to connect this back to 213 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,720 doctor Hawks's data. When he talks about that seven percent evolution, 214 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,799 he's not just talking about random genes. He's talking about 215 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,399 specific gene groups that were strongly selected for, like what 216 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,759 genes related to brain size, to metabolism. For instance, the 217 00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:56,759 sources point to the rapid spread of the gene that 218 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,720 lets adults digest milk, which happened right along the invention 219 00:11:00,799 --> 00:11:04,759 of agriculture proponency do not as a random adaptation, That 220 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:08,279 is another targeted tweak, a series of shifts designed to 221 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,679 prepare our bodies and minds for something new. 222 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: A synthetic future. It really forces you to reconsider everything. 223 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,759 I mean, if the biological shifts we're seeing right now 224 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,399 aren't just random noise, but targeted steps in a program 225 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,679 that was laid out thousands of years ago, it. 226 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:25,039 Speaker 2: Means our destiny might not be entirely our own. 227 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: It's a pre programmed path. It even makes you wonder 228 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,840 about our own technological ambitions transhumanism. AI. Are we just 229 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,039 playing out the next steps in a script that was 230 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:36,240 written into ourselves. 231 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: It's a chilling thought, and it begs the question, what 232 00:11:40,159 --> 00:11:43,600 other more subtle shifts are happening right now that we 233 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:47,200 haven't even noticed yet, all steering us toward this predetermined 234 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:47,879 genetic goal. 235 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Okay, now, let's make a jump, a huge one. We're 236 00:11:51,399 --> 00:11:54,679 moving from the invisible world of genes and population trends 237 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,440 to something you can hold in your hands macroscopic tangible proof. 238 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: We're going to the southern coast to Peru, to the Paracus. 239 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: Peninsula, and we're going back to nineteen twenty seven to 240 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,080 an excavation by the man they call the father of 241 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,360 Peruvian archaeology, Julio Tello. 242 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,759 Speaker 2: Tello uncovered this just massive burial complex, hundreds of mummy 243 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:16,759 bundles from the Parakas culture which thrived there from about 244 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,639 eight hundred BC to one hundred BC. And when they 245 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,519 unwrapped these mummies, they found something extraordinary. 246 00:12:22,799 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: The elongated skulls. 247 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: The elongated skulls. Now, for centuries, mainstream science has had 248 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,120 a pretty standard explanation for skulls like this found all 249 00:12:31,159 --> 00:12:35,159 over the world head binding. Head binding intentional cranial deformation. 250 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,799 You wrap an infant soft skull with cloth or strap 251 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,039 it between boards to change its shape as it grows. 252 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:43,960 It was a status symbol of many cultures, and. 253 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: That explanation works most of the. 254 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:49,279 Speaker 2: Time, most of the time. But researchers who've spent years 255 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,000 with the Parakas skulls, people like Brian Forster, they argued 256 00:12:53,039 --> 00:12:56,519 that while head binding was definitely practiced, it simply cannot 257 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:59,399 explain the anomalies they see in a small but very 258 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,639 significant subset of. 259 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: These skulls, maybe about five percent of them. 260 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,639 Speaker 2: Around that yes, and the differences in that five percent 261 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:11,000 are not cosmetic. There are fundamental structural changes that challenge 262 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,879 our very definition of Homo sapiens. 263 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: Let's get into the specifics, because this is where it 264 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,039 gets really compelling. Let's talk about one particular skull that 265 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,879 was tested Parakas skull number forty four. 266 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: Skull forty four is a perfect case study. First, let's 267 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:26,720 just talk about mass. The average adult male skull weighs 268 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:29,639 about two point two pounds. Skull forty four weigh two 269 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:30,679 point eight eight pounds. 270 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,879 Speaker 1: That's twenty five percent heavier. 271 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: Twenty five percent heavier. Then there's cranial capacity, the volume 272 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:39,480 inside for the brain. A typical human is around fifteen 273 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,559 hundred and fifty cubic centimeters. Skull forty four measured fifteen 274 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,720 hundred cubic centimeters. Like, it's not larger at least, but 275 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,440 you can arguably get some of that through deformation. The 276 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,720 weight and volume are strange. But it's the next part 277 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:57,399 that's the real problem. For the head binding theory, the anatomy, 278 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,240 the underlying anatomy. Skull forty four is completely missing the 279 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:02,159 sagital suture. 280 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Okay, you have to explain what the sagital suture is, 281 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,759 because this is the detail that everything hinges on. 282 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,919 Speaker 2: Right. The sagital suture is the fibrous joint that runs 283 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,600 right down the middle of the top of your skull. 284 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:15,120 It connects the two big parietal bones. It's a fundamental, 285 00:14:15,639 --> 00:14:17,600 non negotiable part of human anatomy. 286 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: Every human has one, every. 287 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: Single one, from our earliest ancestors to us today. It 288 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:24,679 allows the skull plates to move during birth and lets 289 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:27,600 the brain grow. The point is, you can change the 290 00:14:27,639 --> 00:14:30,960 shape of a skull with binding, but you cannot delete 291 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,480 the sutures. You can't just make a fundamental piece of 292 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,440 anatomy disappear. 293 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: That's a staggering point. It's like finding a human skeleton 294 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:41,879 with only one bone in its forearm. It's just anatomically wrong. 295 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: It's anatomically impossible by our current understanding, and the anomalies 296 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,519 don't stop there. The shape itself is a problem. Head 297 00:14:49,559 --> 00:14:52,720 binding creates a cone shape, but these are vertically elongated. 298 00:14:53,399 --> 00:14:56,799 The eye sockets are significantly larger than normal human eye sockets, 299 00:14:56,879 --> 00:14:59,679 and the jaws incredibly robust, some of the largest jaws 300 00:14:59,679 --> 00:15:02,840 ever fun in a hominid. Then there are two strange 301 00:15:02,879 --> 00:15:05,919 holes or foramena, in the back of the skull, where 302 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,960 nerves and blood vessels would pass through. The size and 303 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,440 placement are wrong for a human. 304 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: So we have skulls that are heavier, have a larger 305 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,440 brain capacity, in. 306 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:16,519 Speaker 2: Some of the more extreme cases, sixty percent heavier with 307 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:18,799 a brain capacity two and a half times that. 308 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: Of a normal human, and they're missing fundamental anatomical parts 309 00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:24,519 like the sagital suture. These aren't just deformed humans. 310 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:27,039 Speaker 2: They are arguably a different type of hominin, maybe different 311 00:15:27,039 --> 00:15:30,440 species altogether, which of course brings us to the DNA. 312 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: The twenty fourteen DNA tests on that same skull forty four. 313 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,799 Speaker 2: Yes, the geneticist involved stated the results were, and I'm quoting, 314 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:40,879 quite startling. 315 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,879 Speaker 1: What did they find? 316 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: They found that while it had some familiar human DNA, 317 00:15:44,799 --> 00:15:47,960 certain segments of its mitochondrial DNA didn't match anything known, 318 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:52,519 not human, not Neanderthol, not Denisovan, nothing in the gin 319 00:15:52,639 --> 00:15:55,919 Bank database. It was related to us, but clearly distinct. 320 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: So proponents argue, this is it, This is the physical 321 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,519 proof the bone of an ancient non human bloodline that 322 00:16:02,559 --> 00:16:04,399 lived right alongside our ancestors. 323 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: It's the tangible evidence of those ancient teachers or visitors 324 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,799 from the myths, beings who are physically and now we 325 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,200 know genetically different from us. They left behind a legacy 326 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,080 in their very bones that just upends the standard evolutionary 327 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:18,720 story and. 328 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:21,399 Speaker 1: It provides a potential link a physical specimen for that 329 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:24,120 mystery species found in modern human DNA that we're going 330 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:24,759 to get to later. 331 00:16:24,919 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: Exactly, it suggests the ancient interbreeding wasn't just between different 332 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:33,159 human groups, but between humans and this this entirely unique, 333 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:36,240 structurally advanced, and maybe not entirely terrestrial group. 334 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,759 Speaker 1: Okay, from the bone dry deserts of Peru, We're now 335 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:43,200 going to shift our focus to a completely different environment, 336 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,759 an alien world right here on Earth. 337 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:46,399 Speaker 2: The deep sea. 338 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: And our next biological anomaly is a creature that I 339 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,679 think everyone agrees feels a little out of place, the octopus. 340 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: The octopus is a fantastic example. It really does seem 341 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,399 to operate by a different set of biological. 342 00:16:58,759 --> 00:17:02,399 Speaker 1: Rules, and it's this huge debate. In March twenty eighteen, 343 00:17:02,799 --> 00:17:05,720 a scientific paper came out co authored by a pretty 344 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:11,440 famous astrobiologist, Chandra Wickerma Singh, and the claim was audacious. 345 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: To say the least. The paper suggested that octopuses possess 346 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:18,680 extraterrestrial DNA, that their evolutionary origins might not be entirely 347 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,559 from this planet. 348 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: And the basis for that claim is its genome, its 349 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,079 DNA is just unbelievably complex. 350 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: It's staggering to put it in perspective. Humans who like 351 00:17:28,279 --> 00:17:30,839 to think of as the pinnacle of evolution have somewhere 352 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:34,400 around twenty five thousand genes. The octopus is approximately fifty 353 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,519 thousand genes, double the complexity of a human being. 354 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:40,279 Speaker 1: So on a purely genetic level, an octopus is twice 355 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:41,519 as complicated as we are. 356 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: That's right. And if you think of evolution as this slow, 357 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,680 steady ladder of increasing complexity, the octopus is a problem. 358 00:17:50,039 --> 00:17:51,599 It seems to have just appeared on a very high 359 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,240 rung without climbing the steps below. 360 00:17:53,279 --> 00:17:56,759 Speaker 1: It no clear evolutionary path, the sources claim. 361 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: There's no obvious terrestrial ancestor that's transitions into what an 362 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,920 octopus is today. The paper itself suggested the complexity seems 363 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,440 to have come from outside, as if and this is 364 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,319 a quote. These creatures were brought here in their entirety 365 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,720 and put into our oceans. 366 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: That is such a radical statement to find in a 367 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,039 scientific paper. Let's just list off some of the features 368 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:20,440 that make them feel so alien. 369 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 2: Go start with the basics. Three hearts, two for the gills, 370 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,400 one for the rest of the body than the nervous system. 371 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,400 Nine brains, nine brains, a central brain, and then a 372 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,720 smaller independent brain or a large ganglion in each of 373 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:36,920 its eight arms. This gives it distributed intelligence. An arm 374 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,640 can solve a problem like opening a jar completely on 375 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,799 its own, even if it's been severed from the body. 376 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: And the camouflage. It's not just changing. 377 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,799 Speaker 2: Color, Oh, it's so much more than that. They change 378 00:18:46,839 --> 00:18:49,920 color pattern and the physical texture of their skin almost 379 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,079 instantly to perfectly mimic their surroundings. A rock, a piece 380 00:18:54,079 --> 00:18:57,759 of coral seaweed. The level of biological control is just 381 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,000 it's otherworldly. 382 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: Some biologists have even said that if humans vanished tomorrow, 383 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,519 the octopus is the species' best position to evolve into 384 00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:09,000 the next dominant tool using intelligence on the planet. 385 00:19:09,079 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: I've heard that. But the one feature, the one ability 386 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:15,240 that truly sets them apart and really fuels this alien 387 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:18,920 origin theory is how they handle their own genetic code. 388 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:19,799 Speaker 1: They can edit it. 389 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: They can edit it in real time. This is their 390 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,519 radical evolutionary advantage. 391 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: Okay, let's break down the science here, because this is 392 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,279 important for most life, including us. The DNA is the 393 00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:32,759 master blueprint, its sacred stable locked away. 394 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:36,279 Speaker 2: Right that double heelic zipper on zips to make a 395 00:19:36,279 --> 00:19:39,920 temporary copy a messenger molecule called RNA, and the RNA 396 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:43,160 carries the instructions out to the cells factories to build proteins. 397 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:46,240 Any change, any evolution, has to happen slowly back at 398 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:48,119 the DNA level over generations. 399 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: But the octopus found a shortcut. 400 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,519 Speaker 2: A massive shortcut. The octopus has the ability to edit 401 00:19:54,599 --> 00:19:58,680 the RNA message after it's been made. It's essentially rewriting 402 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,920 the instructions on the fly. 403 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:03,319 Speaker 1: So it's not changing the master blueprint, it's changing the daily. 404 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: Work orders perfect analogy. It uses special enzymes to swalk 405 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,200 out bits of the RNA code, creating new proteins that 406 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,079 the original DNA didn't ask for. This allows it to 407 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,960 adapt its own body and brain with incredible speed. 408 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: So instead of waiting thousands of years for a random 409 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,160 mutation to help it adapt to, say, colder water. 410 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: It can potentially tweak its own nervous system within its 411 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,319 lifetime to function better in the cold. It's a level 412 00:20:28,319 --> 00:20:31,759 of biological self engineering we see almost nowhere else. 413 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: And the sources argue that this is an advantage so 414 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,400 extreme it's hard to explain through normal evolution. It points 415 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,160 to something else. 416 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,599 Speaker 2: It points to the idea that this creature is either 417 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,599 related to an ancient et race that already had this ability, 418 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,720 or that it's the product of genetic experimentation, a life 419 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,680 form engineered with this unique toolkit, and then seed it 420 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,559 into our oceans. 421 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,599 Speaker 1: Wow, it really changes how you see life on this planet. 422 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,960 The octopus isn't just a weird sea creature. It's a 423 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,880 self editing biological machine. It makes you wonder if it 424 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,559 holds a genetic secret that points light years away. 425 00:21:06,759 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: So we've talked about biology ancient and modern. Now let's 426 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,480 shift gears into advanced technology, specifically our own cutting edge tech. 427 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: Because this allows us to do something really important. It 428 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,720 lets us project our own capabilities back in time and ask, 429 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,839 if we can do this now, what could a much 430 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,000 more advanced civilization have done? Thousands of years ago. 431 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: Exactly, and this changes how we should look at ancient artifacts. 432 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,759 Speaker 1: So let's start with the modern breakthrough. December twenty nineteen, 433 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,759 scientists in Zurich, Switzerland, and the star of the show 434 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,440 was a little plastic. 435 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: Bunny, a three D printed bunny. And what was special 436 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,960 about it wasn't the bunny itself, but what was stored 437 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,440 inside the plastic It was made. 438 00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Of its own blueprint, its. 439 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:49,599 Speaker 2: Own digital blueprint encoded into synthetic DNA. The scientists figured 440 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:52,880 out a way to take fragile, negatively charged DNA molecules 441 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,960 and encase them in protective, positively charged silica particles. They 442 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,039 created a kind of fossilized DNA. 443 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: A perfect storage And the reason this is such a 444 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,759 game changer is the sheer efficiency of DNA compared to 445 00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:06,799 our digital systems. 446 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,519 Speaker 2: It's a whole different level. I mean, our entire digital world, 447 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:12,240 your computer, the Internet, it all runs on a base 448 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,920 two system zeros and ones binary runner off exactly, but 449 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,599 nature life itself is way more sophisticated. DNA operates on 450 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,079 a base four system, a T, C and G four 451 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:26,039 options instead. 452 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: Of two, which means you can store exponentially more data 453 00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:29,160 in the same amount of. 454 00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: Space exponentially more. The density is just absurd. Experts estimate 455 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:36,920 you could store multiple petabytes, that's thousands of terabytes of 456 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,839 data in a single drop of DNA infused liquid and 457 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,799 it's stable, incredibly stable, especially when it's encased in that silica. 458 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,920 Unlike a hard drive that needs power and degrades, this 459 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,640 requires zero energy. You could just leave it for thousands 460 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,039 of years. It's the ultimate time capsule. You could store 461 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,279 the entire Library of Congress in a test tube. 462 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: So now we make the leap. If we figured this 463 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,480 out in twenty nineteen, what about a civilization capable of 464 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,599 interstellar travel. 465 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,079 Speaker 2: You have to assume they mastered this long long ago, 466 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,279 which brings us to the big question the sources explore. 467 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,599 Speaker 1: Could ancient artifacts be data banks? 468 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: Is it possible that some of these out of place 469 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,920 artifacts we find all over the world are more than 470 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:19,799 just objects, that they contain vast libraries of information encoded 471 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:22,079 into their very molecular structure. 472 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: Not just in the carvings on the outside, but woven 473 00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:26,400 into the material itself exactly. 474 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,839 Speaker 2: We already know that certain natural materials, like crystals or 475 00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:33,960 specific types of stone, can hold information. The theory here 476 00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:37,200 is that an et civilization could have embedded their history, 477 00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:41,680 their science, their sacred knowledge into a stable material and. 478 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: Just left it for us, waiting for us to get 479 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,759 smart enough to figure out how. 480 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: To read it, waiting for us to invent the key. 481 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,240 Think about the potential that strange, perfectly cut block of 482 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:55,640 stone in an ancient ruin. It might not just be 483 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,839 a building block, It might be a hard drive. 484 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,559 Speaker 1: What kind of objects are we talking about? 485 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,079 Speaker 2: Well, proponents say we should be looking at things that 486 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,640 defy easy explanation. The incredibly precise gold work of the Andes, 487 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,799 certain types of quartz crystals found where they shouldn't be, 488 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480 megalithic stones that show signs of being heated to extreme temperatures, 489 00:24:13,759 --> 00:24:15,119 maybe to lock in the data. 490 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: So a massive crystal buried deep underground could be the 491 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:21,799 perfect energy free library. 492 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: The perfect library. Imagine picking up a simple stone and 493 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,200 realizing it contains the entire genetic map of a species 494 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,079 that visited Earth fifty thousand years ago. It transforms every museum, 495 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,799 every archaeological dig into a hunt for a cosmic flash drive. 496 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: We have to turn now to the most direct and 497 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,519 maybe the most unsettling claims of all, we're talking about 498 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:45,079 active interbreeding and the hunt for non human genes inside 499 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:45,519 of us. 500 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: Right this moves from theory into our own bloodlines, and 501 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,680 this isn't just fringe speculation. In twenty ten, the Max 502 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,240 Plank Institute, led by the biologist Savante Paebo, made a. 503 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,319 Speaker 1: Huge announcement the Neanderthal DNA. 504 00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: They confirmed that early almost Apiens interbred with Neanderthals. It's 505 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,839 why many people of European and Asian descent have a 506 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,960 small percentage of Neanderthal DNA today. 507 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: That was big news, but it wasn't the biggest news. 508 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: No. Pabo's later work uncovered something even more stunning, evidence 509 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:21,799 that our ancestors also interbred with another completely unidentified mystery species, so. 510 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: Not human, not Neanderthal, not even denisivin, which was another 511 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,200 recent discovery, correct. 512 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,319 Speaker 2: A ghost lineage, a population that we have evidence for 513 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,480 in our DNA, but that we haven't yet found in 514 00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:36,200 the fossil record. It showed that our family tree is 515 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:37,680 much much messier than we thought. 516 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: And this brings us right back to the statistic we 517 00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:43,799 opened with doctor John Hawks, the seven percent evolution in 518 00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:47,119 the last five thousand years one hundred times faster than normal. 519 00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: And this is where the sources connect the dots in 520 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,880 a very provocative way. They take Pabo's mystery species and 521 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,519 Hawks's sudden acceleration, and they propose a. 522 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: Cause, an external cause. 523 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: They suggest that non human hominidts, perhaps these extraterrests with humans, 524 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,839 interbred with us within that five thousand year window, and 525 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:07,359 that injection of advanced genetic material is what accounts for 526 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,720 the monumental leap forward. 527 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,759 Speaker 1: So our sudden jump in intelligence and complexity wasn't entirely 528 00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:14,960 our own doing. It was the result of a planned 529 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,400 breeding program. 530 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: That's the idea. And what's so fascinating is how this 531 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,000 modern genetic evidence seems to mirror our most ancient stories, 532 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,839 the myths. The myths, I mean, go to any culture 533 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,160 on Earth, the Sumerians, the Greeks, the Hebrews, the Maya. 534 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,640 The stories are everywhere. 535 00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:35,519 Speaker 1: God's coming down from the heavens and having children with humans. 536 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: The demigods, the Nephelum, the heroes. We've always categorized these 537 00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:43,039 as allegory, as symbolism. 538 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,519 Speaker 1: But the radical interpretation is to strip away the religious 539 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,839 language and read them as historical records, as accounts of 540 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,559 real encounters with non human beings. The sources argue the 541 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,480 theme is so universal it's illogical to dismiss it, especially 542 00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,240 when the DNA now points to a mystery species. 543 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: And to bring into a modern context, we have cases 544 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,480 like the Peter Curry incident, Sydney, Australia, nineteen ninety two. 545 00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:08,559 Speaker 1: This one is fascinating because there was physical evidence left behind. 546 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: There was Curry reported waking up paralyzed with a very 547 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,599 strange blonde female figure on top of him. He described 548 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:21,680 her with classic gray features, milky white skin, huge dark eyes, 549 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,160 pointy chin. 550 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:24,599 Speaker 1: And abduction style encounter. 551 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: But after it was over, he found something on his bed, 552 00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:31,440 a single, long blonde hair, and he had it analyzed 553 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,400 by a biochemist named Horace Drew. 554 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: And the hair itself was weird, very weird. 555 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,039 Speaker 2: It was described as being optically clear, almost like a 556 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:42,319 piece of nylon fishing line, highly unusual for human hair. 557 00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:44,720 But the DNA results were even stranger. What did the 558 00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,880 show A normal hair has DNA from one maternal lineage. 559 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:51,440 This hair had two, a very very rare Chinese lineage 560 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,519 found in only about point one percent of ethnic Chinese people, 561 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,759 and a blue eyed, fair skinned Celtic lineage that is. 562 00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: A bizarre combination to find in a single hair shaft. 563 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: It's an authentically unusual piece of DNA evidence. Now we 564 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:05,880 have to be clear. The LAMB couldn't say this is alien, 565 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:08,519 but the sources argue it's strong evidence for a highly 566 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:12,400 complex hybrid genetic structure, one that's very difficult to explain conventionally. 567 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: And some accounts are even more direct. The sources mention 568 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,720 a woman named Chermaine de Rosario Sage from England. 569 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,279 Speaker 2: Her two thousand and eight account is one of the 570 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,519 most explicit. She claimed she was taken by a reptilian 571 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:28,480 humanoid to an underground base and was temporarily transformed into 572 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:30,079 a retilian hybrid herself. 573 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: And what was the message she supposedly received. 574 00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: That humans are the byproducts of ancient alien genetic wars, 575 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:39,920 that different et races have been manipulating our bloodlines for 576 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:44,160 millennia as part of an ongoing territorial dispute. We are, 577 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:47,319 in this view, a resource or a weapon. 578 00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: This leads to a pretty chilling prophecy about the future. 579 00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:53,119 Speaker 2: It does if these non human or hybrid groups have 580 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200 been here all along, living underground or in parallel realms, 581 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,599 what happens when they decide to reveal themselves. 582 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,839 Speaker 1: Proponents connect this to the widespread religious belief in the 583 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,839 return of a messiah. 584 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: Yes, the return of Jesus or the Mahdi or the Messiah. 585 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,680 They reinterpret that promise as an et promise to return, 586 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,920 and in many of those traditions, the Messianic army isn't 587 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,880 expected to come down from the sky, but to rise. 588 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: Up from within the earth, to emerge and take control 589 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,359 of the surface world. It's a radical rereading of prophecy, 590 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,839 suggesting we might be approaching a point where these ancient 591 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,519 bloodlines finally step out of the shadows. Okay, So if 592 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,000 the biology, the archaeology, and even the myths all point 593 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,920 toward manipulation, we have to go to the final frontier 594 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,519 of evidence, the most fundamental of all. 595 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: The mathematics of creation itself, the code hidden inside the genome. 596 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,319 Speaker 1: And for this we have to look at a twenty 597 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:48,000 thirteen study out of Kazakhstan by a mathematician Vladimir Shrbach 598 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:50,359 and an astrobiologist Maxim Mkukov. 599 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: Their research was just groundbreaking. They weren't looking for new genes, 600 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,559 they were looking for patterns in the structure of the 601 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,640 human genetic code. And they concluded that there is a hidden, 602 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:02,720 mathematically precise code embedded in. 603 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: Our DNA, an extraterrestrial stamp, as they called it, exactly. 604 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,119 Speaker 2: And this isn't just you know, seeing faces in the clouds. 605 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:10,279 This was a rigorous mathematical analysis. 606 00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: What did they find that was so unlikely? 607 00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: They found highly ordered, non random patterns. For example, one 608 00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:21,119 specific complex sequence appeared nine separate times in our code. 609 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:23,920 They calculated the odds of that happening by pure chance, 610 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400 and the number was one in ten trillion. 611 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: One in ten trillion. That's not chance. That's design. 612 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:36,119 Speaker 2: From a statistical standpoint. It strongly suggests deliberate construction. For proponents, 613 00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:39,359 this is the ultimate proof. It's the message in the bottle, 614 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920 not carved in stone, but written in our own cells. 615 00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,200 It's the signature of the artist. 616 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: This idea leads directly to another concept, that of organic robots. 617 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: It does if an external intelligence deliberately altered our genes 618 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,119 with an artificial mutation to give us this accelerated intelligence, 619 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:00,119 then we were, in effect. 620 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,039 Speaker 1: We're biological machines that were given a software update. 621 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: And if you accept that premise, it provides a really 622 00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:10,440 powerful explanation for our modern obsession with artificial intelligence and cybernetics. 623 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,799 We're just continuing the program. We were genetically programmed by 624 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:18,279 aceeding civilization, and now we are programming silicon based AI. 625 00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,640 We are perpetuating the cycle of creation that was started 626 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,599 with us with the organic bridge to the next phase. 627 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: And let's tie this mathematical code back to the very 628 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,000 structure of life. Because there's a specific number that's key 629 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:30,519 to all of this. 630 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: There is Back in nineteen sixty six, when scientists finally 631 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,640 cracked the genetic code, they made a fundamental discovery. The 632 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,319 language of DNA isn't read one letter at a time. 633 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:42,759 Speaker 1: It's read in groups of three clusters. 634 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,079 Speaker 2: Of three molecules called codons or triplets. The number three 635 00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:50,240 is the absolute key to our biological language. Every instruction 636 00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:51,079 is written in three. 637 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,759 Speaker 1: Letter words, and Scherbach and Makukov's work suggested that the 638 00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:57,279 patterns within these triplets were also engineered. 639 00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:02,039 Speaker 2: Yes, the redundancy the structure. It looked like a deliberately 640 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,599 created language. And this is where the sources make the 641 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,559 final profound connection the Holy Trinity, the triune nature of 642 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,319 reality or God or whatever external force you want to name, 643 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:16,200 the father son, holy spirit. The idea of three as 644 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,039 a sacred creative number is universal in human spirituality. 645 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,559 Speaker 1: So the question becomes, is the triune nature of the 646 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:27,359 force that created us literally encoded in our genes? Is 647 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:29,880 the fact that our DNA language is based on the 648 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,480 number three, proof that we were quite literally made in 649 00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:34,440 their image. 650 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:38,039 Speaker 2: It's a powerful synthesis. The ultimate proof of external tampering 651 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:41,359 might not be a crashed ship. It's the mathematical signature, 652 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,400 the structural proof that's inside every single one of us. 653 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,039 It's the message we've been carrying all along, waiting for 654 00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:48,960 the day we were smart enough, thanks to that trojan 655 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,920 horse of intelligence, to finally read it. 656 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: So we have covered a massive amount of ground in 657 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,839 this deep dive, a truly rigorous look at evidence that 658 00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,359 completely redefines what it means to be human. 659 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,359 Speaker 2: We really have. We started with the Pandora virus, this 660 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:05,680 huge genetic question mark that points to the universality of 661 00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:06,599 DNA right. 662 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: The idea of cosmic compatibility. Then we went to the 663 00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:12,759 Parrakas skulls, physical anatomical proof of a non human bloodline 664 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:13,559 walking the earth. 665 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,319 Speaker 2: We plunged into the deep sea to look at the octopus, 666 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,599 a creature that seems to be playing by a different 667 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,880 set of evolutionary rules, editing its own genes on the fly. 668 00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: We even connected our most advanced data storage technology back 669 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,680 to the idea that ancient artifacts could be data banks 670 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,119 filled with hidden knowledge. 671 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,279 Speaker 2: And we ended with the most intimate evidence of all 672 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,759 the math inside our own cells, that one in ten 673 00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,839 trillion pattern that screams intelligent design. 674 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,799 Speaker 1: When you put it all together. The unique DNA lineages 675 00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:46,279 the impossibly fast evolution in the last five thousand years, 676 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,160 this core biological language based on the number three. It 677 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,680 paints a very consistent picture. 678 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: It does, and it leaves you, our listener, with a 679 00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,839 really essentral question to carry forward from this. If parts 680 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,480 your own DNA don't match anything known on Earth, and 681 00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:03,880 if our history has physical proof of hybrid species, what 682 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,960 does that truly say about where we come from? What 683 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,119 does it say about our place in the cosmic family? 684 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: And here's the final provocative thought. If our intelligence really 685 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,559 was the result of a deliberate artificial mutation, a genetic 686 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:19,559 program set in motion thousands of years ago, what is 687 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,000 the next step in that program? And are we right 688 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,159 now with our relentless drive toward artificial intelligence and merging 689 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,280 with machines, simply carrying out the next phase of a 690 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,920 plan written into ourselves long before we ever looked to 691 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,760 the stars. Something to think about the next time you 692 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,960 look in the mirror and wonder about the full story 693 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,760 of the reflection looking back at you.