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<v Speaker 1>Running a strange program.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all. This is the other side of Midnight Weekend Review

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<v Speaker 2>with Walter Sterling, the biggest all night show American radio.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to the biggest all night show in

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<v Speaker 2>American radio, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other side of Midnight wyat sharp, Welcome to the other

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<v Speaker 3>side of Midnight high Hello, good.

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<v Speaker 4>To be back.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, why do you say that.

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<v Speaker 4>Always? It's such a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is this a crappy phone connection? What's that about?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you hear the problem?

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<v Speaker 5>I hear, I do not know you.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear every third word, and I hear an echo.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to hang up and call you back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so hang up, We're gonna hang up on you. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to call you back and I will vamp hi

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<v Speaker 3>the other side of midnight. It's a show filled with

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<v Speaker 3>exciting production and complicated hoops and it's a yeah, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>it's Monday morning. Welcome brand new week I hate it

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<v Speaker 3>one morning men say that. It's like, I mean, a

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<v Speaker 3>brand new weekend, and I've got earphones and I can't

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<v Speaker 3>hear anything in test test I've got oh, we got

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<v Speaker 3>the the earphones with the tin the tinfoil like you

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<v Speaker 3>made when you were a kid, and you would set

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<v Speaker 3>up an intercom that you could talk to your best

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<v Speaker 3>friend at the house next door. Well, that's what I've got.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a special challenge. Do you hear an edge in

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<v Speaker 3>my voice? Pay no attention to it. Just pay attention

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<v Speaker 3>to the words. I had the best weekend. There are

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<v Speaker 3>two reasons for this. And I hope you had a well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care if you had the best weekend. But

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<v Speaker 3>I had a great weekend. And here's the weekend I had.

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<v Speaker 3>My wife and children were not home any questions, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they're not going to be home all week. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I did what I wanted to do. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to give you an example. Maybe you can relate

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<v Speaker 3>to this. Maybe you can share this. When I was

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<v Speaker 3>in a room and I wanted to go to a

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<v Speaker 3>different room, I stood up and I walked to that room,

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<v Speaker 3>like what I know, it's insane. Nobody said did you

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<v Speaker 3>leave anything? Did you leave any cups in the TV room?

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<v Speaker 3>Are there any cups in the TV room? For some reason,

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<v Speaker 3>the inventory on the cups dominates my wife's thinking. It

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<v Speaker 3>is completely changed from our honeymoon. Now it's did you

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<v Speaker 3>leave anything in the TV room? Is there anything in

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<v Speaker 3>there that I'll need to pick up later. You know

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<v Speaker 3>how this goes. You've seen this transcript your entire life.

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<v Speaker 3>Your mother shared it with you, your wife has shared

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<v Speaker 3>it with you. If you made that mistake. Every time.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was a kid, we were in the car

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<v Speaker 3>with my grandfather. Every time on a Saturday we went

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<v Speaker 3>by a church and there was a wedding four thirty

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<v Speaker 3>on a Saturday afternoon. My grandfather would always say the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing, Go another mistake, That's all he'd say, without

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<v Speaker 3>any extrapolation, without any comment. It was like another mistake,

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<v Speaker 3>and there it is. And here's the best part of

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<v Speaker 3>that story. I have a happy marriage. This is I

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<v Speaker 3>have a good marriage, and I'm delighted when they're all

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<v Speaker 3>away for a week. They're down with her sister and

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<v Speaker 3>the dreaded brother in law. The dreaded brother in law.

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<v Speaker 3>I watch something in this time alone that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>binge watch. I view people who binge watch TV shows.

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<v Speaker 3>As week. I watch an episode and then I stop,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I do something constructive, like go into the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 3>and then a day or two later, I'll watch the

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<v Speaker 3>next episode. And in the next episode, but this time,

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<v Speaker 3>I see this series and I watched the first episode

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, oh my god, this is incredible, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the next one and I binge watched. I would

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<v Speaker 3>binge watch all eight episodes of this particular series. That

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<v Speaker 3>was like, WHOA never saw anything this great for me.

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<v Speaker 3>It may not be perfect for you, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>you'll have a good time. It's called Star City. You

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<v Speaker 3>may recall that Russia had a Cape Canaverral. Russia had

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<v Speaker 3>a Cape Kennedy, and it was called Star City. That's

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<v Speaker 3>where all of their rockets went off from. That's where

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<v Speaker 3>they are astronauts and the teams that built the rockets worked.

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<v Speaker 3>It was in one isolated place, much like Florida, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was called Star City. This is about an alternate

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<v Speaker 3>history where the Russians got to the Moon first. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>you've that series I was called something Beyond Space or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but this was different. This was Russia

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<v Speaker 3>beat us to the moon. And this series is about

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<v Speaker 3>what happened after that at Star City to the Russians,

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<v Speaker 3>what happened next in the Russian space program. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>not about getting into space. It's not about all of

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<v Speaker 3>the challenges getting into space. It's about living at Star

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<v Speaker 3>City Now. I always thought that was a better name

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<v Speaker 3>than Cape Canaveral. I always thought that was a better

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<v Speaker 3>name than Cape Kennedy. I thought, wow, star City, that

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty cool. I watched all eight episodes and it

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<v Speaker 3>was stunning. Do we have Wyatt?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a reason we don't have? Whyatt? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>a new phone system to Canada? What is the problem there? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>just keep calling, just keep calling, radio show, live, radio show.

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<v Speaker 3>Walter's talking away. Probably should just keep not talking to

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<v Speaker 3>each other. Just trying to get Wyatt. I know I'm insane.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to hear from Wyatt Sharp, who joins

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<v Speaker 3>us at the beginning of every Monday morning show, Sharp

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<v Speaker 3>as hell. He happens to be a senior in high

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<v Speaker 3>school who sounds better than anybody on this radio network.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a really smart guy, but he's also a shockingly

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<v Speaker 3>good broadcaster. I'm very nervous. Ah, He's about putting him

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<v Speaker 3>on because he does sound better than I do, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is a challenge. No, I didn't mean it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know what I'm talking about anyway, So it

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<v Speaker 3>star City. Now, get a load of what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>We get to see what the Soviet Union worked like

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<v Speaker 3>at the height of the Cold War, at the very

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<v Speaker 3>height of their power sixty sixty one, sixty two sixty three,

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<v Speaker 3>when krus Jeff was in charge and then Breshnef was

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<v Speaker 3>in charge. It was like really hardcore Russian and we

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<v Speaker 3>get to see how it operated in ways that we're terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>Their spy system way advance compared to ours, their military

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<v Speaker 3>internal operations way advance compared to ours. And if it's

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<v Speaker 3>an alternate history as to what happened after they got

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<v Speaker 3>to the moon first, how did they deal with it?

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<v Speaker 3>What was fascinating is what happened to us after we

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<v Speaker 3>got to the moon first. And we'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have him now? Guys? Do you have him now?

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<v Speaker 3>Could I talk to him? Are you just going to

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<v Speaker 3>keep talking to him? This is he that charming to you?

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<v Speaker 5>Ay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, yeah, yeah yea. I'll tell you more about Star

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<v Speaker 3>City in seconds, But right now I want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Whyatt Sharp. Welcome to the other side of midnight, Wyatt.

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<v Speaker 3>Were they having a chat with you?

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<v Speaker 5>Ah?

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<v Speaker 7>You know it's the great Canadian cell service, I think

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<v Speaker 7>is the problem?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not funny. You have updates for us? Whyt

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<v Speaker 3>runs a YouTube channel that's terrific. He also happens to

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<v Speaker 3>be a senior in high school, has booked amazing guests

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<v Speaker 3>like Hillary Clinton, and has a has a real gift,

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<v Speaker 3>like a real gift. You're going to use this to

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<v Speaker 3>get into Harvard. I know you will. So what's your news?

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<v Speaker 3>What what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>This week? In PARTE?

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<v Speaker 7>The Nancy Guthrie stuff has really continued to get a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of attention. After my interview with the PMA County

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<v Speaker 7>Sheriff Chris Nanos, there's been a lot of developments in

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<v Speaker 7>the case. They release some ransom notes, and in my

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<v Speaker 7>interview with him with this a little bit last week,

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<v Speaker 7>it's been kind of expanded upon. They confirm that they're

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<v Speaker 7>using something called genetic genealogy to basically connect family members

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<v Speaker 7>to the potential suspect and an effort and make their

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<v Speaker 7>investigation move along a little bit faster because people are

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<v Speaker 7>getting pretty frustrated at the pace of the investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, basically, what is genealogy?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 3>What what is the pace? When do they expect some conclusion?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they happy with the pace?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>I think That's what I'm getting at is that they're

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<v Speaker 7>definitely not. And it's not so much even they're frustrated

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<v Speaker 7>with the pace of the investigation. So much is the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that the FBI director Cash Bettel, for example, said

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<v Speaker 7>just this past week that they were withheld from the

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<v Speaker 7>scene for too long and that the sheriff of was

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<v Speaker 7>didn't allow the FBI to use Quantico to.

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<v Speaker 4>Go through a lot of the DNA in various labs.

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<v Speaker 7>Quanticos, of course, the FBI's premier.

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<v Speaker 4>Lab that they use for you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Most of these types of high profile investigations. But the

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<v Speaker 7>local officials there refused, and the FBI attributes that refusal to,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the slowed pace of this investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>Why could a local sheriff prevent the FBI from becoming involved?

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<v Speaker 3>How does that work? I would have assumed the FBI

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<v Speaker 3>had priority.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, that's a great question, and it's one that

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of people are asking, But it's actually the

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<v Speaker 7>state officials that can prevent the FBI from accessing the scene,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's exactly what they did.

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<v Speaker 4>You also have I've.

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<v Speaker 7>Been seeing online some people saying, well, why can't the

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<v Speaker 7>federal government just remove the sheriff.

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<v Speaker 4>And that goes back to the fact that in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 7>They have a democratic governor and Chris Nanos, the sheriff

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<v Speaker 7>there is a Democrat, So you know, even though the

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<v Speaker 7>sheriff is the lead investigator, there's still a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>partisan politics at play.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Plus, isn't the sheriff elected there, not appointed?

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<v Speaker 4>Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, therefore it'd be impossible to remove the sheriff he

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<v Speaker 3>was appointed. They'd have a better shot. But what I

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand is why, Well you don't have this answer,

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<v Speaker 3>but why would they delay? Why wouldn't they want all

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<v Speaker 3>the help that they could possibly get. Is it just

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<v Speaker 3>so that they'd get the credit? Is that it so

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<v Speaker 3>the sheriff could solve the case and get the credit

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<v Speaker 3>without help.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's definitely part of it, because I think, again,

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<v Speaker 7>going back to the politics, he wants to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the poster child so to speak, for solving the investigation,

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<v Speaker 7>and if the FBI comes in and solves the case,

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<v Speaker 7>then you know, it might take some of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Away from him.

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<v Speaker 7>But I will also say that part of the problem

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<v Speaker 7>is that pe mccounty, the area where this is happening,

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<v Speaker 7>they have not dealt with high profile investigations like this ever,

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<v Speaker 7>not even just recently, but Ever, the last high profile

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<v Speaker 7>thing that happened in p mccounty was the shooting of

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<v Speaker 7>gab Giffords, and that was over ten years ago. And

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<v Speaker 7>so I think a lot of it I attribute to

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<v Speaker 7>just not really a whole lot of expertise in that area,

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<v Speaker 7>even down to you know, a lot of the not

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<v Speaker 7>just the sheriff himself, but a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 7>who make up the office of the sheriff. Through no

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<v Speaker 7>fault of their own, this is something that really they

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<v Speaker 3>This must be a very real, very rural, desert oriented,

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<v Speaker 7>know Nancy Guttri, it was actually just them trying to

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<v Speaker 3>All right. Yeah, there are other stories you guys are

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<v Speaker 7>The other one that I found and we've hindered at

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<v Speaker 7>gen Z is actually starting to put their phone down

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<v Speaker 7>And so it's really the constant notifications and their algorithms

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<v Speaker 4>Pressure that is in some ways creating a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Wyatt Sharp, what's the name of your channel

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<v Speaker 7>The Sharp Exchange. And We've got some really big interviews

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<v Speaker 7>coming up as well, which I'm sure we will talk

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<v Speaker 7>about here on your show over the course of the

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<v Speaker 7>next few weeks. I won't give away one of them

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<v Speaker 7>and lots of other news as well The.

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<v Speaker 3>Sharp Report YouTube. Wyatt Sharp, thank you for being on

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<v Speaker 9>Hi, I'm retired Detective Vic Ferrari And on tonight's episode

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<v Speaker 2>This is the other side of Midnight. Weekend Review with

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<v Speaker 6>Y'all listening to Walter Sterling on the other's side of

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<v Speaker 6>Midnight on WUABC. The station nets so out of side,

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<v Speaker 6>other people, the sound to sleep. We're still talking till

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<v Speaker 6>the morning light with the pack a hostess orange cupcakes.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's all taken another bite on the other side night.

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<v Speaker 3>Mattheas Boom Boom in Hollywood. Welcome to the other side

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<v Speaker 3>of Midnight with Walter Sterling live from Hollywood. Finally we

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<v Speaker 3>have a live connection that reaches Hollywood. It cost a

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<v Speaker 3>tremendous amount of money to get this in and fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>people working over time to actually be able to reach

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<v Speaker 3>to you. And soon I'll get a pair of headphones

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<v Speaker 3>that enable me to hear stuff and I'll get on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, I'm staring at a black computer screen, and

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<v Speaker 3>then over there is another black computer screen. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the trick is to ignore all that and just plow ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know what people say, You know what

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<v Speaker 3>people say. Then they say, they say, boy, he's a professional.

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<v Speaker 3>What a professional he is if he can do a

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<v Speaker 3>show with a black computer screen there and another one

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<v Speaker 3>over there. And then if I touched one that was

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<v Speaker 3>you know, feeding Dominic's Sacred Show and it went out

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<v Speaker 3>for eight seconds, oh my god, that's a disaster. But

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<v Speaker 3>if it happened to me twice, there's no problem. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The overnight guy matteas Boom boom in Hollywood. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for being my friend. I don't have any.

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<v Speaker 5>Left pleasure to be your friend, and I bid you

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<v Speaker 5>a very pleasant mooring. Although you've had so much fun thus.

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<v Speaker 3>Far, I've had a special time.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a special time. Speaking of special times, you were

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<v Speaker 5>at home by yourself. You were enjoying the new series

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<v Speaker 5>on Apple TV, Star City, And I'm curious to know

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<v Speaker 5>where the orange flavored Hostess cupcakes involved at all. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very good question. The orange cupcakes are such

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<v Speaker 3>a controversial food that I don't dare eat them in

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<v Speaker 3>the home. I only eat them alone in the car,

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<v Speaker 3>which is also where I eat gas station chicken. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>have you ever had gas station chicken?

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't been that brave.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I didn't think I was that brave either, But

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<v Speaker 3>I saw every time I went to this one gas

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<v Speaker 3>and I saw it being made and you could get wings,

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the two things that persuaded me to try it. One,

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<v Speaker 3>so I figured there was some hope there. But the

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<v Speaker 3>other thing is there was always a line. It didn't

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<v Speaker 3>a line of people wanting the gas station chicken. Hmmm,

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<v Speaker 3>and there then I got it. And it's a delicate

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and it's cooked perfectly. I never thought i'd

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<v Speaker 3>my family though, to be furious that I would eat

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<v Speaker 5>Furious did the chicken? Can me get home with you

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<v Speaker 5>to watch the television program this weekend or did it

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<v Speaker 5>just stay at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Guest I sit in the car at the gas station,

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<v Speaker 3>don't I don't even leave the gas station in the car.

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<v Speaker 3>And then then I'll go home and I will watch

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<v Speaker 3>Star City, which is uh so far from me the

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<v Speaker 3>best television I've seen in years.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand that Ronald D. Moore was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>Did he do Strange New Worlds? Is he involved with

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<v Speaker 3>Strange New Worlds? Which is amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>if he is, but I know that he did those

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<v Speaker 5>three at least, and so well, that's one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's going in that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's something I.

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<v Speaker 5>Have to tell you. This has been the biggest weekend

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<v Speaker 5>Hollywood in recent memory. I mean this is a big thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean big, big, big, big. The two movies that

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<v Speaker 5>are out have now made Hollywood the most money it's

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<v Speaker 5>is Spider Man Brand New Day. We talked about it

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<v Speaker 5>last week. That's the new Spider Man movie, which is

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<v Speaker 5>seems to be reflected in the attendance worldwide Spider Man

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<v Speaker 5>has made since last Friday, nine and twenty seven million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's impossible, it's nuts.

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<v Speaker 5>This makes it the biggest opening weekend, second only to

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<v Speaker 5>the one point two billion opening weekend of Avengers Endgame,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was before COVID. So, as I thought might happen,

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<v Speaker 5>Spider Man would knock the Odyssey out of first place,

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<v Speaker 5>and it certainly has, but nine hundred and twenty seven

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<v Speaker 5>million dollars worldwide. Now locally, what I mean locally, I

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<v Speaker 5>three hundred and fifty five million. But that's an amazing

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<v Speaker 5>worldwide gross. So it's remarkable to me that the other

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<v Speaker 5>The Odyssey, it just sailed past nine hundred and eleven

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<v Speaker 5>million worldwide on its third weekend. So it's been a

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<v Speaker 5>very nice time in Hollywood. Universals are proding its biggest

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<v Speaker 5>grosses probably since those old Monster movies with Boris Carloff,

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<v Speaker 5>like Frankenstein and Baylor Lugosi. So it's it's a good

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<v Speaker 5>time in Hollywood, and people are very happy with Tom Holland,

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<v Speaker 5>who's having a great time in his career right now.

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<v Speaker 5>He just married Zendaya, He's having these terrific movies and

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<v Speaker 5>then he's going to play of all people, Fred Astaire

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<v Speaker 5>coming up, so well, thank god he has work in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank god he has worked. Because we were worried about

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Holland getting work. I know you won't, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>and what are you reviewing next week.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know, Oh, I haven't seen the playlist yet.

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<v Speaker 5>From the studios, there's some sort of a rom com

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<v Speaker 5>that has sort of a mysterious thing that I don't

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<v Speaker 5>even remember the title. You know. I go to four

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<v Speaker 5>pictures a week, and I just put in my calendar

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<v Speaker 5>I have to go. I've never watched the trailers ahead

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<v Speaker 5>of time because I don't want to be influenced. And

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<v Speaker 5>then when I see them, I said, ah, well that

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<v Speaker 5>was good or not good, and then we talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>So looking forward to talking to you again on Friday morning.

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<v Speaker 3>How do I find you on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 5>Mattias Bomball's Hollywood on Facebook It's M A T I

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Walter, Thank you for being on the Other side

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<v Speaker 3>of Midnight with Walter Sterling. You and I are on

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<v Speaker 3>the radio in Chicago on the Great wg N.

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<v Speaker 6>It's Sterling, Walter Sterling. On the other side of Midnight.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Sterling, Walter Sterling. You should be here every night.

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<v Speaker 2>He takes to the air without a care and does

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<v Speaker 2>his nightly shows and the midnight in this fits all

424
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<v Speaker 2>tune in for reasons. Nobody knows.

425
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<v Speaker 11>It's Sterling, Walter Sterling.

426
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<v Speaker 2>On the other side of midnight.

427
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<v Speaker 7>It's Sterling, Walter Sterling.

428
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<v Speaker 8>You should be.

429
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<v Speaker 10>Here every night.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, there's no accounting for tastes. There you are?

431
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<v Speaker 3>You got a phone number, we can talk at any time.

432
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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a reason to talk in just moments.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two. My gosh,

434
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<v Speaker 3>is it doctor Sky also from Arizona. Are you in

435
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<v Speaker 3>Arizona tonight.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Sir Ah sure en, Good morning, Walter. Good to be

437
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<v Speaker 1>with you.

438
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<v Speaker 3>It's nice, but I mean, your voice is just it

439
00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:18.240
<v Speaker 3>ruins my my mystique, Like I think I have a

440
00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.200
<v Speaker 3>good radio voice, and then you come on the air

441
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:20.640
<v Speaker 3>and all.

442
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Islat No, I'm here in Arizona and actually struggling through

443
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:27.559
<v Speaker 1>one of the most ridiculous days. But we expect that

444
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona one hundred and seventeen degrees. If you believe

445
00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that the moomenter.

446
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<v Speaker 3>That's impossible. How it is? How does that feel?

447
00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:36.720
<v Speaker 5>Terrible?

448
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

449
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean I set the air conditioner. I think we

450
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.640
<v Speaker 1>had an air conditioning conversation before, so I've lowered it.

451
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Actually I had it at eighty, but after listening to you,

452
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I put it at seventy eight. And my electric bill

453
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 1>is going up exponentially.

454
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<v Speaker 3>So there you go, right, And the beauty of that

455
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:55.599
<v Speaker 3>is that every year you and I by energy efficient

456
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:59.720
<v Speaker 3>appliances progressively energy efficient appliances, and you go, well, I

457
00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.720
<v Speaker 3>got another energy efficient appliance, and therefore my bill should

458
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 3>go down. And it never goes down no matter how

459
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.759
<v Speaker 3>many energy efficient appliances we buy, the bill always goes up.

460
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<v Speaker 3>Makes no sense. It's one of the mysteries, Doctor Samsai.

461
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 3>It's a great mystery. Well listen, doctor Sky, there's a

462
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.720
<v Speaker 3>great story that's fascinating, and I'd like you to share

463
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 3>it with us because it's a doctor Sky's story, and

464
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<v Speaker 3>share your theories.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Walter, this week will be another good week for

466
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<v Speaker 1>people who love space, And even if you don't, it's

467
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 1>good to pay attention because Wednesday, something unusual is going

468
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to happen. It's been done before, but it's never received

469
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the media attention. And what is that They will be

470
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<v Speaker 1>actually intentionally slamming into the moon an upper stage of

471
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<v Speaker 1>a SpaceX booster from a mission Walter that happened back

472
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<v Speaker 1>in January the fifteenth of twenty twenty five. The booster

473
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<v Speaker 1>was actually trying to get two space probes, two privatized

474
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<v Speaker 1>space probes to the surface of the Moon, one Japanese

475
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<v Speaker 1>and one American, but unfortunate apparently. I don't know the

476
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.079
<v Speaker 1>facts on this, but I believe this is what I've

477
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 1>been reading. That booster never got its way out of

478
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>the way, so it's got into this weird orbit around

479
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<v Speaker 1>the Moon. So what's going to happen Wednesday? And the

480
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>calculations tell us that the impact will take place of

481
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<v Speaker 1>this large booster, But we have to put it in

482
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>the mind like a theater in the mind concept. Forty

483
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 1>five feet long, twelve feet wide. We don't know if

484
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it has any external internal propellants still in it, God

485
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 1>help us, but it will be slammed into the Moon,

486
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 1>traveling it over five thousand miles an hour. Whoa with

487
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<v Speaker 1>a kinetic effect. If you look at kinetics, you know

488
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<v Speaker 1>the energy that can be imparted or exported out three

489
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<v Speaker 1>tons of TNT that's their estimate. So why are they

490
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<v Speaker 1>doing this? I mean, it's not just for fun. We

491
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<v Speaker 1>don't want to intentionally litter the Moon. But that's a

492
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<v Speaker 1>whole nother story. It's actually to test what happens when

493
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<v Speaker 1>we create craters, because in the future, at least that's

494
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<v Speaker 1>what I hope, when we do habitate the Moon, we're

495
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<v Speaker 1>going to have to understand what impactors do and what

496
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<v Speaker 1>kind of damage they do on the surface of the Moon. Now,

497
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<v Speaker 1>from the observation side, I've been viewing the Moon like

498
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<v Speaker 1>probably many people, with decent to very high powered telescopes.

499
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<v Speaker 1>So the point is some media hype, and I want

500
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<v Speaker 1>to correct this if we can, on this show, your show,

501
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I think so much in so many in the media

502
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 1>are talking about this as if it might be a

503
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>visible event for people. I wish it were, but I

504
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 1>can't rule it out. So you would need a fairly

505
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>large telescope. So here's the dynamics of what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The curring estimates say that on Wednesday morning, two thirty

507
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<v Speaker 1>five a m. Eastern daylight time, and this window can

508
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<v Speaker 1>change by minutes who knows West coast of course, eleven

509
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty five p m Pacific daylight time. Now I'll be

510
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<v Speaker 1>out there with the telescope the day before just to

511
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<v Speaker 1>set it up. But the best views would happen for

512
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<v Speaker 1>the eastern to midwestern parts of the nation here, or

513
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously anywhere where it's dark, what you could see theoretically,

514
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<v Speaker 1>and this has happened before. I've watched a few of

515
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<v Speaker 1>these events, never to see the impact, but we looked

516
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<v Speaker 1>at exactly the location. Back in two thousand and nine,

517
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<v Speaker 1>NASA had a mission called l Cross to the Moon.

518
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<v Speaker 1>It was a large booster from a Centaur rocket, and Walter,

519
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 1>what they were doing is slamming it into the south

520
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 1>pole area of the Moon. And this actually this experiment,

521
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>when they slammed it in, we actually detected water vapor.

522
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<v Speaker 1>So that's why if people wondering why are we headed

523
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<v Speaker 1>to the south pole of the moon, the possibility now

524
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<v Speaker 1>is a fact that there is water vapor in the

525
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>form of ice there, but this one which will be

526
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<v Speaker 1>visible on the very bright side the left edge of

527
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<v Speaker 1>the moon. It may be impossible to see the flash,

528
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>but who knows. But what could happen, Walter, is that

529
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>debrief from that impact could actually send the plume of

530
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<v Speaker 1>material against the edge of the Moon, where people who

531
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<v Speaker 1>have a large telescope, not binoculars, may get to see

532
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>something unprecedented. I've never seen that. I don't think anybody has.

533
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty exciting.

534
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<v Speaker 3>What does it mean to us if the Moon has

535
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<v Speaker 3>water vapor? What does that mean?

536
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<v Speaker 1>Well, Walter in the symbolest term. This is really strange.

537
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<v Speaker 1>People always ask me, They say, what temperature is the

538
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>lowest in the Solar System? And going back to school,

539
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 1>everybody would think, well, the outer planets, now, Pluto's a dwarf. Well,

540
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>let's take Neptune. Temperatures out there can be three hundred

541
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<v Speaker 1>degrees below zero fahrenheit. How they know that, They take

542
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>these things called spectroscopes, space probes have visited it and

543
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, put their so called thermometer out to measure

544
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the temperature. But we find out, Walter, at the south

545
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>post of the Moon, this is almost incredible. It's probably

546
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<v Speaker 1>the coldest place in the Solar system. Temperatures allegedly recorded

547
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<v Speaker 1>at over four hundred degrees below zero fahrenheit. So why

548
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<v Speaker 1>is it important. It's important because in the future when

549
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<v Speaker 1>we do habitate that area, there's that possibility since water

550
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>is so scarce, you know, not only here in the

551
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>United States now the big water crisis, but we need

552
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that and that can help us to generate, you know,

553
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 1>future production of water. If we would scrape the ice,

554
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 1>let's say, and it's a possible location for as we

555
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about now, for habitation, so it's got a positivity

556
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to it. But this one is just to detect what

557
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the impact results are, in other words, what happens when

558
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.559
<v Speaker 1>you slam something into the moon like that. So it's

559
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 1>exciting and I'll be out there with the telescription.

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<v Speaker 3>And so are the other people. And it could be

561
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<v Speaker 3>that the moon is hollow. Is that also something we're

562
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<v Speaker 3>studying here?

563
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and this is interesting, But let me define what

564
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<v Speaker 1>they call hollow. When the Apollo astronauts orbit, the lonely

565
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>astronaut like Michael Collins and Apollo eleven, God bless him,

566
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do that. Now, imagine that every fifty or

567
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 1>some minutes, you're in darkness and nobody you can hear

568
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>or see. He detected something as he's going around the

569
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Moon where there was like if you locked on autopilot

570
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and you said, keep me sixty miles above the moon.

571
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>He noticed that there was this porpoising or wobble. So

572
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>what is that? In simple terms, it's something in the

573
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>lunar surface they call mascon. So there may be areas

574
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<v Speaker 1>of the moon that are hollowed out, but not to

575
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the point where it's like you could fly through it.

576
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Or you know, there's movies out there. I think Moon

577
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 1>figured the name of the Hollywood movie Moonshot or something

578
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>where they say the moon is hollow and civilizations live there.

579
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 1>So they've been there trying to detect what happens when

580
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 1>you ring the moon, because Apollo eleven sent ussm experiment

581
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.279
<v Speaker 1>there and when things do happen, like we slammed other

582
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 1>rocket bodies into the moon, so the moon does ring,

583
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of weird. So we really don't know Walter,

584
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the true dynamics of what the internals of the moon are.

585
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>But it's fascinating, don't you think it's really?

586
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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

587
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And there's something you said with certainty that I

588
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.279
<v Speaker 3>have to ask you about too, which is, okay, when

589
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.119
<v Speaker 3>we inhabit the moon, Yes, what are the triggers to

590
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 3>decide whether or not we actually need to go through

591
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 3>all that trouble?

592
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, the truth is we have to get the right

593
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 1>spacecraft to do it properly, because look at the tiny

594
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.079
<v Speaker 1>spidery lander that we had in the Apollo program, a

595
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>great feed of technological genius. But now if we replicated

596
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that we're only going to be able to be, you know,

597
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>bring a small number of people to the Moon. So

598
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 1>the promise of the future is with SpaceX they're building

599
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a moon lander based on the starship design, and also

600
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Bezos is designing. And when we have an Artemis

601
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>three mission, we don't know when it's going to happen.

602
00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Somebody says in the year twenty twenty seven will be

603
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>not to go to the Moon. The original Artemis three

604
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.279
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be the moon landing, but now we

605
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 1>want to test the lunar lander. So the simplest way

606
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I can say it is that once we develop that,

607
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 1>we can go to places like the south pole of

608
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<v Speaker 1>the Moon. They call it the Aitken Basin, and this

609
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is one of the largest impact areas on the Moon.

610
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<v Speaker 1>The old Cross mission identified that we have water vapor

611
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>down there. So what's going to be the limitation. It's

612
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<v Speaker 1>building the right spacecraft to do it, and then you

613
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:28.079
<v Speaker 1>have to do the whole design and this is going

614
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:29.799
<v Speaker 1>to take a while. So I don't think, folks, it's

615
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>going to happen overnight and naturally not. So habitation modules

616
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>would then need to be built. Apparently they're going to

617
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 1>look to put a small nuclear reactor on the moon too.

618
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 1>So it all sounds sci fi, but were on airplanes

619
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<v Speaker 1>kind of science fiction back in the turn of the

620
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 1>early nineteen hundreds, right, amazing, It.

621
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<v Speaker 3>Is amazing, and it seems like a great dare. I

622
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 3>dare you to inhabit the Moon? And this is not

623
00:33:56.119 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 3>for you to answer, but I'm like, okay, so what's

624
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 3>the benefit of us going through all that trouble? What's

625
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.640
<v Speaker 3>the end benefit of us inhabiting the Moon? I can't

626
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 3>really imagine it other than og it's a really cool thing,

627
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 3>can you.

628
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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you want an answer, this is something interesting.

629
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<v Speaker 1>There's a isotope of helium. And I met him, maybe

630
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<v Speaker 1>you did, a lot of people know that there's only

631
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<v Speaker 1>a few of the Apollo astronauts left, but Harrison Schmidt

632
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<v Speaker 1>the only geologist to go to the Moon. He of

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<v Speaker 1>course became a US Senator in New Mexico. Many may know,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the things Walter that they actually found

635
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<v Speaker 1>or in his works, he talked about something called the

636
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<v Speaker 1>isotope of helium three. What's that when you scoop up

637
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<v Speaker 1>the lunar soil, there's this ingredient that you could use

638
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<v Speaker 1>to help generate energy in the show. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>So there could be energy increments here. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>way in the future. I mean, this is not something

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to happen in my lifetime. Probably I would

642
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<v Speaker 1>hope it happens quicker, but everybody has to make up

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<v Speaker 1>their mind as to whether they think these things are worthwhile.

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<v Speaker 1>But from my limited perspective, hey, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great thing to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a television viewing tip if you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 3>it already. I'm not a binge watcher of television shows.

648
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<v Speaker 3>I view people who binge watch the series as weak.

649
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<v Speaker 3>I'll watch an episode and then I'll watch the next

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<v Speaker 3>episode a couple days later. But on Friday I saw

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<v Speaker 3>it started to watch a series that I figured i'd

652
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<v Speaker 3>watch one or two episodes and get back to it. No, no,

653
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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't stop. And it's called Star City Wow. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's about the Russian Cape Canaveral. And it's an alternative

655
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<v Speaker 3>history in that they beat us to the moon, But

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<v Speaker 3>that isn't the story. The story is what happened after

657
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<v Speaker 3>they beat us to the moon, what happened in Russia.

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<v Speaker 3>In Russia, in Star City, the people who live there,

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<v Speaker 3>the scientists, the engineers, how they lived and how they

660
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<v Speaker 3>interacted with each other, and how they viewed the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely fascinating but so well done. And I watched all

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<v Speaker 3>eight episodes at once, and it doesn't have well there's

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<v Speaker 3>no star and it doesn't have any actor I'd ever

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<v Speaker 3>seen before. That's sure how strong the story is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to check it out. Walter. I haven't

666
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<v Speaker 1>seen it, but your recommendation goes right to the top.

667
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<v Speaker 1>But just a little bit of information about the real

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<v Speaker 1>Star City. I don't know if Hollywood, I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it yet. But they never launched rockets from Star City.

670
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<v Speaker 1>It was a training location for the cosmonauts, but they

671
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<v Speaker 1>actually launch all their rockets from a place called Baikenor,

672
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<v Speaker 1>which is this bizarre space location. Who I say bizarre

673
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<v Speaker 1>because it's so far out in the you know, planes

674
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<v Speaker 1>in the maces of Kazakhstan. This is where they've done this.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course Star City was dedicated to Yordiga Garin,

676
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<v Speaker 1>who launched into space and sadly died. It's amazing that

677
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<v Speaker 1>story could fill hours. You know, here's the first cosmonaut,

678
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<v Speaker 1>first person to do the orbitation of the Earth, but

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to him years later? He flies one of

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<v Speaker 1>these Meg fifteen fighter jets out of one of the

681
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<v Speaker 1>airports around Moscow and something happens where he crashes and dies.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a long story behind. But I want to watch

683
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<v Speaker 1>dar City because I love the stories like this. I

684
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<v Speaker 1>think that's fascinating to take a look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was fun. Yeah, in Star City they refer

686
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<v Speaker 3>to him, and every time they refer to his demise,

687
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<v Speaker 3>they get vague, so so many many vague. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a good friend, doctor Scott. Tell everybody what time

689
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<v Speaker 3>you're on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>We have our program, thank goodness, and we appreciate the

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<v Speaker 1>entire red Apple Lodium network. Here we're looking Friday nights

692
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<v Speaker 1>midnight to two am Eastern Day Lifetime and Saturdays, different guests,

693
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>different topics on Saturday midnight to two am Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 1>the subject matter. In case people haven't tuned in, we

695
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 1>encourage them to. All the shows here on this great

696
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 1>station is basically about astronomy, space, aviation, weather, celebrities. And

697
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<v Speaker 1>also since I served in the military and did something

698
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<v Speaker 1>in the Lee world, law enforcement world, we talk about

699
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 1>stories of American exceptionalism. To keep the whole concept of truth,

700
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 1>justice in the American way, a combination of topics with

701
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 1>great game. And it's always a privilege and honor to

702
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<v Speaker 1>be here with you and all the great shows and

703
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<v Speaker 1>all the great hosts that are here on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Station, live radio the way it's supposed to be. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Scott. Thank you for being on the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>My pleasure, real pleasure. Thank you, sir. All right, let's

707
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<v Speaker 3>you and I talk eight hundred eight four eight nine

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<v Speaker 3>two to two. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two

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<v Speaker 3>two two. The exciting time that this is is that

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<v Speaker 3>you and I just finished two days of hell. We

711
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<v Speaker 3>had to deal with family relationships, all the things that

712
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 3>we're not trained for, and now we get to go

713
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<v Speaker 3>to work. Because the dirty secret is that we'd mostly

714
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<v Speaker 3>rather go to work where things are vaguely organized, we

715
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 3>know what to do. There's a cause and effect between

716
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 3>our behavior and outcomes, whereas when you and I have

717
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<v Speaker 3>to deal with children, teenagers, in laws, that's a whole

718
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<v Speaker 3>different set of hers. And I had a I had

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<v Speaker 3>a really tough weekend, and the reason it was tough

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't because I had to deal with my daughters or

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<v Speaker 3>my wife. Because I didn't. They weren't here. They were like,

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't here. I'm gonna I got to look up

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<v Speaker 3>something now that I shouldn't have to look up. Hold

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<v Speaker 3>on a second, hold on, hold on, I got to

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<v Speaker 3>look up something for my friends. Let's see. Uh, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a clip there William called women Trying, And when I

727
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<v Speaker 3>point to you, I'd like you to play that. It's

728
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<v Speaker 3>called women trying, and it's there's the greatest mystery for

729
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.280
<v Speaker 3>any any married couple. The greatest mystery for any married

730
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<v Speaker 3>couple is, at some point it starts to be a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of work to communicate with each other. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>it should be easier rather than harder, but it tends

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<v Speaker 3>to be harder.

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<v Speaker 11>If you don't I need a man so bad, then

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<v Speaker 11>why are you so try and so hard all the

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<v Speaker 11>time to get their attention. If you don't need a

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<v Speaker 11>man so bad, why are you trying so hard to

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<v Speaker 11>get them to pay for this and pay for that,

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<v Speaker 11>and do this and do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you do.

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<v Speaker 11>Need a man, why don't you just admitted and not

742
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<v Speaker 11>only do you need one, but you want one?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

744
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<v Speaker 3>You want one?

745
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<v Speaker 1>Just admit it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the challenge, It's it's the admission part. Admission is

747
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<v Speaker 3>the first step. Admitting it is the first step to

748
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<v Speaker 3>solving the problem. But the way most men and women

749
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<v Speaker 3>communicate is much trickier than that. And I saw it

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<v Speaker 3>with my parents, I see it with my children. I

751
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<v Speaker 3>see it with my kids dating, and I see it myself.

752
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<v Speaker 3>It's like I see things ABC and D, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 3>The result will be this and then we'll be happy.

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<v Speaker 3>But with my wife it doesn't work that way. First,

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<v Speaker 3>it has to start with me saying that I'm sorry.

756
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it is, but whatever it is,

757
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<v Speaker 3>I have to start basically with me saying I'm sorry. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never asked anybody in my life to say that

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<v Speaker 3>they're sorry. I've never said to somebody, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>really wish you'd apologize for that. It wouldn't occur to

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<v Speaker 3>me to do that. It just wouldn't because it's like,

762
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<v Speaker 3>nothing is that big a deal to me. So first

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<v Speaker 3>I have to start with I'm sorry. Now. What I

764
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<v Speaker 3>had to apologize for this weekend was particularly bizarre. Since

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<v Speaker 3>we're not together. I'm staying in my sister in law's

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<v Speaker 3>home and without notice. Get this, I'm staying there for

767
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<v Speaker 3>the weekend. I'm alone. I've done this before. I know

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<v Speaker 3>how to stay in somebody's apartment alone and see if

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<v Speaker 3>this has happened to you. And then I get notification

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<v Speaker 3>that some distant relative who I don't know and their

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<v Speaker 3>kid is also going to be staying there. Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 3>And I wasn't given an update on this. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>giving any information on this, but I said, well, when

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<v Speaker 3>are they going to get here? And I was told

775
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:09.480
<v Speaker 3>last night? All right, they were going to get there

776
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 3>last night. Great. What did I do? Like any man?

777
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<v Speaker 3>I locked myself in a bedroom and I hoped I

778
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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have to see them. When are they leaving? Exactly? Well,

779
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<v Speaker 3>I think on Tuesday, all right? And I made that

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<v Speaker 3>work in my head. I thought I'd be alone because

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<v Speaker 3>I need to be alone. I don't know about you,

782
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<v Speaker 3>but I do. And then these people who I vaguely knew,

783
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<v Speaker 3>who I met once twenty five years ago. That's it,

784
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<v Speaker 3>I met once twenty five years ago. They were going

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<v Speaker 3>to be arriving, and they were going to arrive last night. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all is well. What happened next was remarkable and I'll

787
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<v Speaker 3>share that coming up in just seconds. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>other side of Midnight on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the other side of Midnight Weekend with Walter Sterling.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the other side of Midnight Weekend Review with

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<v Speaker 2>Walter Sterling.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the other side of Midnight Confessions of a Retired

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<v Speaker 3>NYPD Detective.

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry, Big Ferrari, on the other side of Midnight, on

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<v Speaker 8>the other side of Midnight.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey Walter. On tonight's episode of Confessions of a Retired Detective.

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<v Speaker 9>I'd like to talk a little bit about the New

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<v Speaker 9>York City Police Department's transit Police. So when I got

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<v Speaker 9>hired in nineteen eighty seven, the NYPD was broken up

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<v Speaker 9>into three police departments. You had the city cops, the

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<v Speaker 9>transit cops, and the housing cops, and they all kind

802
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<v Speaker 9>of did the same thing, but they fell out of

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<v Speaker 9>the same umbrella. The only difference was on details and demonstrations.

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<v Speaker 9>It was all on the NYPD. Transit and Housing didn't

805
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<v Speaker 9>get involved in it, and they had their own chiefs

806
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<v Speaker 9>and inspectors that didn't answer to anyone. Then they all merged.

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<v Speaker 9>But the funny thing is, when I got hired, I

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<v Speaker 9>didn't think transit police was a bad job, and I said,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, I really wanted to be NYPD. I didn't

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<v Speaker 9>want to go to housing. And I remember the day,

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<v Speaker 9>a few days before I got sworn in, we were

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<v Speaker 9>supposed to go downtown and there was a list, and

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<v Speaker 9>you looked on your list and you saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you're going to go.

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<v Speaker 9>And I was kind of relieved when I went to

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<v Speaker 9>the NYPD. But I was always fascinated with the transit system,

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<v Speaker 9>and sometimes there'd be jobs down there and transit cops

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<v Speaker 9>weren't available. Was sometimes you were unlucky enough to chase

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<v Speaker 9>somebody into a subway tunnel, and I remember the first

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<v Speaker 9>time that happened. I remember chasing the guy would reckless

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<v Speaker 9>abandon I'm about thirty feet into this tunnel, and I go,

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<v Speaker 9>what the hell am I doing. It's one thing to

823
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<v Speaker 9>chase somebody on the street or through buildings or through

824
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<v Speaker 9>a vacant lot. It's another thing into a subway tunnel

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<v Speaker 9>because a lot of times these guys know the lay

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<v Speaker 9>of the land, don't and you don't know what the pitfalls.

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<v Speaker 9>And what I quickly realized is there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 9>garbage down there. There's rats the size of Doxin's. And

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<v Speaker 9>I says, oh no, no, no, no, no, let me

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<v Speaker 9>put this sover, we'll seal the tunnel off on the

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<v Speaker 9>other side, and then eventually we got the guy. After

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<v Speaker 9>nine to eleven there was a shift where they wanted

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<v Speaker 9>NYPD guys to be trained to be in those tunnels.

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<v Speaker 9>So I took a day long course up in the

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<v Speaker 9>Bronx I think it was a transit District twelve, and

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<v Speaker 9>they sent NYPD detectives and they basically gave us a

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<v Speaker 9>crash course on what it was like down there, followed

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<v Speaker 9>by a tour of the tunnel. And what I quickly

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<v Speaker 9>realized is once you're down there, I forget the distance.

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<v Speaker 9>But it's almost like every fifty or one hundred feet

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<v Speaker 9>there's these little cutouts into the concrete. So when the

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<v Speaker 9>event of trains come and you can get in there,

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<v Speaker 9>it's like a little on coove and you can get

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<v Speaker 9>your back up against the wall and the train won't

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<v Speaker 9>hit you. Also, down in the subway system, every so

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<v Speaker 9>many feet there's a blue light, or in darry this

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<v Speaker 9>should be a blue light unless the bulb burns out

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<v Speaker 9>of the homeless people steal it. Next to that blue

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<v Speaker 9>light is a switch and you're able to turn off

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<v Speaker 9>power to the train, but it's only for about five

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<v Speaker 9>or ten minutes, and unless you call dispatch and tell them, hey,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm down here, the power will come right back on.

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<v Speaker 9>So guys have gotten themselves into trouble where they turn

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<v Speaker 9>the power off to the train and they didn't realize

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<v Speaker 9>to turn it back on, and that's where bad things

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<v Speaker 9>can happen. For more behind the scenes NYPD stories, be

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<v Speaker 9>sure to check out my new book NYPD Behind the

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<v Speaker 9>Blue Wall of Silence, available on Amazon. I'm retired detective

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<v Speaker 9>turned off the Vic Ferrari with Walter Sterling on the

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<v Speaker 9>Other Side of Midnight.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to have to come on and tell us

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<v Speaker 3>more about that. That was an amazing story. How they

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<v Speaker 3>train these guys to be in the subway tunnels. They

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<v Speaker 3>think they're going to be solving robberies in the Bronx

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<v Speaker 3>and now they're stuck in subway tunnels and they better

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<v Speaker 3>turn the power back off fast enough. Who WHOA. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't always get to listen or look at what he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about ahead of time, and usually I'm

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<v Speaker 3>as amazed as you are. Vic Ferrari, retired New York

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<v Speaker 3>City Police detective. Oh my gosh, wow, wow, The Other

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<v Speaker 3>side of Midnight that's pretty cool, mister Ferrari. Vic Ferrari,

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<v Speaker 3>buy that book. For gosh sakes, by that book. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never said that before, have I No, I'm telling you now,

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<v Speaker 3>by the book. So the situation with my wife went

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<v Speaker 3>like this. Everything was fine. I was spending the weekend

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<v Speaker 3>at my sister in law's apartment, one of her many

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<v Speaker 3>of her estate, and I was staying there for a

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<v Speaker 3>couple days alone. All right. Then last night I get

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<v Speaker 3>this notification when I'm away or they want me to

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<v Speaker 3>do something. I don't get a phone call, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>get a text. I get a notification, much as you

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<v Speaker 3>would at work or if there was a police emergency.

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<v Speaker 3>And it says Susan's going to come there with her

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<v Speaker 3>daughter tonight. I'm like, okay, and that's all I knew.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, when is she leaving? They said Tuesday. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine, and I changed my brain so I understood

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be in an apartment with these two other people

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<v Speaker 3>I had met twenty five years ago. Well, I go

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<v Speaker 3>to sleep, I wake up today. Everything's fine. Then around

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<v Speaker 3>four o'clock I get this text and the text says,

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<v Speaker 3>now they're going to be staying in the room you're

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<v Speaker 3>in because there are two beds, and I want you

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<v Speaker 3>to make your bed. I said, WHOA. You had already

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<v Speaker 3>told me I could stay in this room. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>when did they arrive? Oh, they haven't arrived yet. They're

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<v Speaker 3>going to arrive today. You told me they were going

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<v Speaker 3>to arrive yesterday. Right then it starts to get slippery.

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<v Speaker 3>Right then, I get slippery. I'm supposed to make my bed,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm supposed to change rooms, and I'm all settled. I

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<v Speaker 3>have my things on the dresser, I have my clothes out,

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<v Speaker 3>I have my prescriptions all set up right. You know

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<v Speaker 3>the situation when you check into a hotel. Will Now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all checked into the hotel and I'm told I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to move to a different room. And

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<v Speaker 3>it was already promised. I said, no, you promised me

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<v Speaker 3>I could stay in this room. You, in fact said

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<v Speaker 3>first Divs. Whoever gets into the room first, it's first Divs.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what?

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck is going on here
