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Speaker 1: Okay, so picture this all right. You've got a team

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of scientists, like fifteen of them, really top notch researchers,

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and they're setting up camp in Marie Birdland, Antarctica. Yeah

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it's nineteen ninety five. They're sending out regular radio signals, right,

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just routine check ins, reporting their findings. Everything seems normal,

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and then poof nothing silence.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's creepy.

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Speaker 1: Right. A whole week goes by, and then a C

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one thirty crew finally gets out there to check on them,

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and get this, the camp is completely intact.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, tens are still up, equipment's all there,

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but the scientists vanished, no trace.

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Speaker 2: Like they just disappeared exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like they just stepped out for a minute and

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then boom gone.

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Speaker 2: That's so strange.

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Speaker 1: I know. It's like a locked room mystery, only the

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room is Antarctica.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So another week passes and then out of nowhere, a

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panicked radio call comes through. It's the scientists.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, they're back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're back. But when the rescue team reaches them,

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they find them totally silent, unresponsive, like in some kind

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of shock. It's like whatever they encountered it messed them

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up big time.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: When you first brought the story to me, it just

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sent chills down my spine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's definitely one of the most unsettling

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accounts out there, and it's not even the only one, right, right,

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you know, this whole idea of Antarctica being this place

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where strange things happen, this is something that's been going

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around for decades and it's really captured the imaginations of

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well pretty much everyone who hears about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, forget penguins and icebergs for a second, right,

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because what we're diving into here is some really out

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there stuff. I mean, you've got all these sources. We're

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talking about rumors from almost a century ago, and then

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like we've got satellite images showing weird anomalies.

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Speaker 2: It's nuts, it is. It's a whole mix of like

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historical stuff and eyewitness accounts, and then you've got some

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scientific data that.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't quite fit yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: You know, like pieces of a puzzle, but we don't

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know what the picture is supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is try and piece together

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as much as they can. We're gonna look at the facts,

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or at least what's been reported, right, and see what

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makes sense and what doesn't. We're not here to say

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aliens exist or that there's a hidden civilization under the ice,

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but you know, we're going to try and understand how

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these stories came about and why they're so darn persistent.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think one of the things that makes

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Antarctica so fascinating is that the speculation about its secrets

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it kind of starts really early on. Yeah, I mean,

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even before people had fully mapped the continent, you're already

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finding rumors about it. Right back in the nineteen thirties,

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and then there were even stories about possible alien bases

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hidden somewhere down there, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was this whole unexplored territory, right, a

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blank space on the map, so people could project all

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kinds of ideas onto it, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And then of course you've got the whole thing about

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Hitler and the Nazis this idea that they were super

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interested in Antarctica and maybe even set up some secret

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Speaker 1: I remember reading about that. I Mean, there was this

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idea that they were looking for something right, some lost

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ancient technology or a hidden entrance to the hollow Earth

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Speaker 2: Right, all these crazy theories. And you know, while a

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lot of this stuff is really difficult to prove, there's

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no doubt that those early rumors they really set the

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stage for the wilder stories that came later.

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Speaker 1: So it kind of set the tone for everything that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it made Antarctica this place of mystery and potential danger.

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Speaker 1: Ah, yes, Operation Hig Joe. No, that's a story. So

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we're talking nineteen forty six, right after World War Two,

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and the US Navy decides to launch this massive expedition

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down to Antarctica. I mean we're talking a whole fleet

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of ships, aircraft, thousands of personnel. This was a serious

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flag and all that, right, kind.

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Speaker 2: Of establish a presence there, show the world that the

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US was a major player in this new frontier.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly.

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Speaker 2: But there's a twist, and that's where things get really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean, this whole thing was supposed to last

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six months, right, a full blown scientific and military exploration

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of the continent. But then after just six weeks the

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operation gets abruptly canceled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the part that really gets people talking.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, the official explanation was like, oh, bad weather,

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you know, the conditions were too harsh, But of course

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not everyone buys that well.

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Speaker 2: And you have to remember there were these first hand

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accounts coming from people who were actually there part of

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things that could maneuver in ways that seemed impossible. And

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described these objects as behaving aggressively, almost like they were

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pushing the Navy out.

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Speaker 1: So basically the story goes, the Navy went down there

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thinking they were going to be the big guys on campus,

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and instead they ran into something that made them turn

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely makes you wonder what they really encountered

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weather in some misidentified natural phenomena or something else entirely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's fast forward a bit nineteen eighty five. We've

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got another really interesting incident, a METAVAC flight. Right, So

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this is a plane on a routine medical transport mission.

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Speaker 2: Right, pretty standard stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, except this time something really strained happens. According to reports,

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the flight was somehow forced to change course, like diverted

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into a restricted no fly zone right near the south Pole.

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to have seen this massive hole in the ice, like

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a giant crater or something the size of a football field.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's huge in the middle of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just this giant, gaping hole in the middle of

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the ice. And you know what makes the story even weirder,

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when the flight got back, the crew wasn't debriefed by like,

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you know, the usual military superiors. Instead, they were met

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no names, no badges, just like you didn't see anything.

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Speaker 2: This, oh man. That's straight out of the X Files,

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the whole men in black thing. It definitely adds to

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the mystery, doesn't it?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, totally. I mean why all the secrecy if

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it was just a routine flight, right, And these kinds

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of aerial encounters, they seem to keep happening. I mean,

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from Navy flight crews, and they describe seeing these silver

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disc shaped objects flying over the mountains at crazy speeds,

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like way faster than anything we could build back then.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is, these weren't just isolated incidents. You

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see a pattern here. There seems to be this repeated

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thing where people see something unusual, something they can't explain,

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and then they're told to keep quiet about it.

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Speaker 1: Right. It's like there's a concerted effort to hush it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what really makes you think, Okay, what's

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really going on here, because if it was just some

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natural phenomenon, why all the secrecy?

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Speaker 1: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Now there's another account you dug up from two thousand

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It involves a Navy seal allegedly part of some covert

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mission in Antarctica, and what they supposedly stumble upon is

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an ancient structure like actually sticking out of the ice.

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Speaker 1: Oh, on an ancient structure like a building.

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Speaker 2: That's what they described. And get this, it wasn't made

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of anything they could identify, like not quite metal, not

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quite stone, something something else. And the crazy part this

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thing was radiating heat.

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Speaker 1: Heat in Antarctica.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense, I know, right, it's like defying physics,

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but that's what was reported. And on this structure there

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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, a door. What is it some kind

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of Indiana Jones movie?

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds wild, right, but this is a

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story that keeps popping up, and it's not just some

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random Internet rumor. It's coming from people who claim to

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's shift gears a bit, because you know, I

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love a good story, but I also like to try

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twenty eighteen. These researchers were studying cosmic rays. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Cosmic rays are these high energy particles that come

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from outer space and scientists use them to study all

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really fascinating stuff, right.

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Speaker 1: And normally you'd expect to find these cosmic rays coming

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from well space, right, But in this case, they detected

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something totally unexpected. They found cosmic rays that seemed to

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be coming from underneath the Antarctic ice sheet, like two

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Speaker 2: That's right, And that's really unusual because cosmic rays they

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something something significant down there. Yeah, maybe some kind of

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Speaker 1: So it's like something is generating these high energy particles

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deep under the ice, but what nobody seems to know.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's like another piece of the puzzle, but it

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doesn't quite fit anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's go back to those scientists who disappeared

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in Marie Birdland for a minute. I mean, we talked

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about the strange circumstances of their disappearance and their return.

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Speaker 2: There is. When the rescue team finally got to them,

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they weren't just silent. It was like they were traumatized,

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like something could happen to them that shook them to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like they'd seen something they shouldn't have. And then

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their equipment, the stuff they were using for their research,

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it got quarantined, like sealed up and taken away. And

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the rumor is it ended up at Wright Patterson Air

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Speaker 2: Right Patterson. That's the place that's been linked to all

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sorts of well, let's say, unusual phenomena over the years.

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Speaker 1: Right, UFOs crashed alien spacecraft, the whole nine yards. So

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the fact that their equipment was taken there, it just

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adds to the mystery.

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Speaker 2: It does. It's almost like, you know, whatever those scientists found,

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whatever happened to them, it was something the authorities wanted

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to keep under Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole incident just screams cover up, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: And it's not even the only one. Remember Brian the

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Speaker 1: Talked about earlier, Yeah, the one who saw that giant

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hole in the ice during the METAVAC mission, right him.

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Speaker 2: Well, he reportedly had a similar experience after the Marie

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those same men and black types and told to never

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speak of what they saw, like it never happened.

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Speaker 1: It's like there's a pattern here, isn't it. People see

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something strange, something they can't explain, and then they're silenced.

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Speaker 2: It really does make you wonder what they're trying to hide.

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Speaker 1: So we've got all these stories about weird stuff happening

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Speaker 2: That's where things get really interesting, because in recent years,

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with satellite imagery and all that, we've actually started to

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see some pretty strange things.

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Speaker 1: Like those pyramid shaped structures, right. I mean when I

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first saw those images, I was like, no, way, can't

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Speaker 2: I know. It's pre mind blowing, isn't it. You've got

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these sormations that look like pyramids, and they're not just

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random shapes. They seem to have these precise geometric properties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like one of them, it's aligned almost perfectly with

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the cardinal directions north south, east west, like it was

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laid out with a compass.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and that kind of precision. It's not something you

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usually see in natural formations, so it definitely raises questions.

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I mean, could these things really be artificial?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Could they have been built by someone? And if so,

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who and when?

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Speaker 1: Right? I mean, mainstream science tells us that Antarctica has

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been covered in ice for millions of years. So if

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there are ancient structures down there, it would completely rewrite

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our understanding of history.

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Speaker 2: It would. It would mean that there was a civilization,

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a pretty advanced one, existing in Antarctica way before we

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thought possible. And it would mean they were capable of

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building structures on a massive scale.

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Speaker 1: And then there's that theory about an even bigger pyramid, right,

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like a superpyramidally over a mile wide at its base.

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That would be insane.

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Speaker 2: It would it would dwarf even the Great Pyramid of Giza.

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And some of the theories you've been looking at they

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suggest that these pyramids weren't just tunes or monuments, they

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were something else entirely, like what like energy generators. There's

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this idea that they were built to harness some kind

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of natural energy, maybe from the Earth itself.

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Speaker 1: Like a giant battery or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. And it's not as crazy as

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it sounds. I mean, we know that ancient cultures were

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capable of some pretty incredible feats of engineering. Look at

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the Pyramids in Egypt, Stonehenge, all that stuff, right, Right.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, even if we accept that maybe,

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just maybe there could have been a civilization in Antarctica

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millions of years ago, there's still the problem of those

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ancient maps.

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Speaker 2: Ah. Yes, the maps, Now those are really fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got the peri RaSE map from fifteen

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thirteen and then the Orantius Fineus map from fifteen thirty one,

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and both of them show Antarctica without ice and not

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just like a vague outline either. They show coastlines, rivers, mountains,

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details that we didn't even confirm until like the twentieth

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century with modern mapping techniques.

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Speaker 2: And that's the crazy part because how could those cartographers

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have known that? Yeah, Antarctica wasn't officially discovered until like

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the eighteen hundred, So where did they get that information? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And it gets even weirder because some scientists believe that

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parts of the Antarctica East haven't been ice free for

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at least six thousand years, and the level of detail

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on the Erantius Fineus map it suggests that it might

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be based on even older source material maybe from a

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time when Antarctica was actually a temperate land mass.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about a civilization that might have existed

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twelve thousand years ago or even earlier, and they had

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the knowledge and technology to accurately map Antarctica. I mean,

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he just blows your mind, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, there are some theories out there that try to

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explain all this, like the theory of crustal displacement.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember reading about that. That's the one

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where the Earth's crust, like the whole outer lane of

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the planet. It can shift dramatically, right, like the continents

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can move around.

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Speaker 2: That's the idea, and it's not completely out there. I mean,

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we know that the continents have moved over millions of years,

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that's how Pangea broke up and all that. But the

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theory of crustal displacement, it suggests that these shifts can

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happen much more.

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Speaker 1: Quickly, like catastrophically quickly, right.

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Speaker 2: And one of the proponents of this theory, Charles hapculd.

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He actually argued that Antarctica might have been in a

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different location in the past, like closer to the equator,

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where it would have had a warmer climate. And then

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maybe around twelve thousand years ago, something happened, some kind

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of major event, and the Earth's crust shifted and boom,

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Antarctica gets pushed down to the South Pole where it

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freezes over.

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Speaker 1: So basically, it's like a giant game of continental musical chairs,

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and Antarctica got stuck with the worst seat.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Now, it explained why those ancient maps show Antarctica

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without ice, because they were drawn before it shifted to

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the South Pole.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but what could have caused this massive crustal displacement,

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Like what kind of event could move an entire continent.

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Speaker 2: Well, there are a few different ideas out there. Some

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researchers point to things like asteroid impacts or massive volcanic eruptions,

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events that could have literally shaken the Earth and caused

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the crust to move.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about a cataclysmic event, something that would

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have been devastating for any civilization that might have been

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living in Antarctica at the time.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's interesting to note that there's also a

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theory about a major impact event that happened around twelve

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to thirteen thousand years ago. It's called the Younger Driest

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Impact hypothesis.

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Speaker 1: I've heard of that. That's the one where they think

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a comet or asteroid hit the Earth, causing all sorts

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of climate chaos.

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Speaker 2: Right, and some researchers believe that this impact event might

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have been the trigger for the crustal displacement that sent

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Antarctica to the South Pole. And it would also explain

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the sudden disappearance of any potential civilization that might have

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been living there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but let's get back to some of those more

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recent accounts, the ones that suggest there's something still going

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on in Antarctica today, Like that two thousand and three

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story about the Navy seals. That one's got some really

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specific details, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: It does. It's one of the most detailed accounts we have.

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Remember they were supposedly on a mission to extract a scientist.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, some kind of emergency extraction in the Beard

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Moore Glacier region, and they come across this black octagon

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sticking out of the ice, eighteen feet high, perfectly shaped.

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I mean, that's not something that just happens naturally, is it.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty hard to imagine that being a natural formation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then there's the door.

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Speaker 1: The door, Yeah, this massive door twenty three feet tall

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eighteen feet thick, with these strange symbols on it, like

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a star map and a triangle with two lines through it.

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Speaker 2: And that symbol it's reportedly identical to one that was

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found on an ancient coin in Mexico City, which is

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really interesting because it suggests a connection, maybe a really

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ancient one, between Antarctica and other parts.

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Speaker 1: Of the world, right, like some kind of ancient global

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civilization that had outposts all over the place, including Antarctica.

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Speaker 2: It's a possibility. And what's even crazier is that the

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seals supposedly found this massive door really easy to open,

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like it wasn't locked or anything. And when they opened it,

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they found this huge room inside, like nine acres.

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Speaker 1: Big nine acres, that's enormous.

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Speaker 2: What was inside well, according to the reports, the temperature

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inside was a comfortable seventy degrees even though it was

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like minus forty outside.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, how is that even possible? Are

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we talking to some kind of advanced climate control technology here?

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Speaker 2: It seems like it. And the room was filled with

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this soft lime green light that was coming from the walls,

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and the walls were covered in these weird glyphs, like

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some kind of ancient writing that nobody could decipher.

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Speaker 1: So it was like stepping into another world.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like it. And according to the scientists they

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were sent to extract, that nine acre room was just

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the tip of the iceberg, so to speak of. Yeah,

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he claimed that the structure extended much further under the ice,

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like a total of sixty two acres, and he said

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it was just one of several similar structures in the area.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now that is just mind blowing. So we're talking

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about a whole network of ancient, possibly advanced, underground structures

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hidden beneath the ice. I mean, come on, who built

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these things and why?

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Speaker 2: Those are the big questions, aren't they? And there were

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even more recent reports suggesting that there might be submarine

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access points leading to these structures, and some people even

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claim that the lower levels are occupied by well, non.

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Speaker 1: Humans, non humans like aliens.

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Speaker 2: That's the implication, but of course it's all very speculative

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at this point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Brian for a minute. Remember him,

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the flight engineer. He's got another interesting story right from

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the early nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 2: He does, and this one also involves restricted airspace. Remember

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He was doing routine resupply missions at the time, right.

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Speaker 1: Flying back and forth across Antarctica, delivering supplies to different

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research stations.

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Speaker 2: Pretty standard stuff, yeah, until one day his crew got

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an emergency call. They needed to transport someone to Davis Station,

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and the only way to get there was to fly

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over this heavily restricted nose Li zone.

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Speaker 1: A no fly zone. What was so special about.

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Speaker 2: This area, Well, on the maps it was just labeled

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as an air sampling station, which sounds pretty nonocuous, right,

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But as they were flying over the zone, they saw

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something really strange, like what a massive hole in the ice,

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like three hundred feet wide, and it wasn't just a hole,

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there were tracks leading into and out of it, like

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there was a lot of activity going on there.

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Speaker 1: So it was like this secret base or something hidden

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in the plane sight.

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Speaker 2: That's what it looked like. And of course when they

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got back, they were debriefed, told they didn't see anything,

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blah blah blah. But Brian, he was already suspicious. He'd

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had that other encounter with the men in Black after

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the Marie Birdland incident, so he knew something was up.

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Speaker 1: And it gets even better because months later Brian is

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at the South Pole station, just hanging out in the galley, right,

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and he overhears these civilians talking about visitors at the

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air sampling station.

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Speaker 2: Visitors. That's a pretty vague term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when Brian asked what they meant, he got

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the impression that they weren't talking about like other scientists

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or researchers. They were talking about something else, something not human.

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Speaker 2: So this air sampling station, this place with a giant

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hole in the ice, it might not be just a

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scientific outpost. It might be something else entirely, maybe even

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a joint human alien base.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty wild. But hey, it's not like we

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haven't seen other evidence of potential secret bass, right, that's true.

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Like that Google Earth image from two thousand and seven,

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Remember that.

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Speaker 2: One one with the cave entrance and the stairs. Yeah,

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what about it?

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Speaker 1: I mean it looked pretty clear cut, right, a cave entrance,

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stairs leading down into it, some weird discoloration around the area,

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like maybe from heavy equipment. But then the image just

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disappeared from Google Earth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was strange. And then a few years later

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a lower resolution image of the same area popped up,

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but the cave entrance and the stairs were gone, like

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they'd been blurred out or something. It's almost like someone

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didn't want us.

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Speaker 1: To see what was there, right, It's like they're trying

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to hide something. And then there's that story about the

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Atlanta's TV crew that disappeared in two thousand and two.

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They were in Antarctica, supposedly investigating this rumor about a

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massive archaeological dig, like two miles under the ice.

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Speaker 2: Two miles under the ice, that's crazy. What were they

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digging for?

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows for sure, but the story goes that the

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Navy found their abandoned camp and equipment, including a videotape,

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and according to reports, the tape showed some incredible stuff

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like ruins of some ancient civilization, a pyramid, temple complex,

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all this crazy stuff.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a pretty big claim. What happened to the tape, Well,

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that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It supposedly got confiscated by the military and Atlantis TV.

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They tried to get it back, but they were stonewalled.

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They even went to court, but they lost.

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Speaker 2: So it's another potential cover up, another piece of evidence

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that suggests there's something down there that they don't want

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us to know about.

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Speaker 1: I think so of course we have to be careful, right.

479
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Not every weird image or strange story is proof of

480
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aliens or lost civilizations. I mean, some of that stuff

481
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can be explained away by you know, natural phenomena or

482
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just plain old human error. Like that alien face on

483
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Google Earth. It was probably just a trick of the light, right,

484
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paridolia they called it our brain see patterns where there

485
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are none, right, And.

486
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Speaker 2: That crash spaceship image it turned out to be just

487
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a big rock. So yeah, we have to be skeptical.

488
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But at the same time, there's just too much weird

489
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stuff happening in Antarctica to ignore, especially when you consider

490
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the fact that access to the continent is so tightly controlled.

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Speaker 1: Ah. Yes, the Antarctic Treaty.

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Speaker 2: Right nineteen fifty nine, bunch of countries got together and

493
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decided that Antarctica would be this like international zone for

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scientific research, no military activity, no territorial claims, just science.

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And they also put in all these rules about access

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and exploration, which is kind.

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Speaker 1: Of weird, right. I mean, it's a whole continent and

498
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most of it is just empty ice. Why all the restrictions.

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Speaker 2: Well, the official line is that it's all about protecting

500
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the environment, which you know makes sense on some level,

501
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but it's also kind of hard to swall you consider

502
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that they're letting tourists go there.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if it's really that fragile, why let anyone

505
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in at all.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like the environmental protection thing is just

507
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a cover story, isn't it. Like they're trying to keep

508
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people away from something.

509
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Speaker 2: That's the suspicion, isn't it. And some people even believe

510
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that violating the Antarctic Treaty could trigger like a World

511
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War three scenario.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Really, that's pretty intense, but it shows you how

513
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seriously they take this stuff. And then you've got those

514
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whistleblower accounts claiming that the US is running secret archaeological

515
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digs under the ice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and those stories they claim that the US has

517
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found all sorts of incredible things down there, but they're

518
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keeping it all under wraps.

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Speaker 1: So we're back to the cover up, right. But it

520
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makes you wonder what are they hiding and who are

521
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they hiding it from. Are they just trying to keep

522
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the information from getting out to the public, or is

523
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there something else going on? Maybe they're working with like

524
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other countries or even you know, extraterrestrial beings.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot to take in, isn't it.

526
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. So if we tried and put all

527
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this together, what are we left with? I mean, what

528
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are the most likely possibilities here?

529
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Speaker 2: Well, I think there are a few different scenarios. First,

530
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there's the idea that there was an ancient civilization in Antarctica,

531
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one that was much more advanced than we currently understand,

532
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and maybe they left behind some pretty incredible stuff that's

533
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now buried under the ice.

534
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a pretty good one. But what about those

535
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reports of ongoing activity, like the UFO sidings and the

536
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stories about secret bases. I mean, that suggests that something

537
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is still happening down there, right.

538
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Speaker 2: Right, And that's where it gets really interesting, because maybe

539
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there's still something down there. Maybe there's a whole ecosystem

540
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thriving in those geothermal caves we talked about earlier.

541
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Speaker 1: An ecosystem like with plants and animals and stuff.

542
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Speaker 2: Maybe, or maybe even something more advanced, a civilization that

543
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has adapted to living under the ice.

544
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Speaker 1: Okay, now that's a thought. A whole civilization living beneath

545
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our feet, completely unknown to the rest of the world.

546
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That's like something out of a science fiction novel.

547
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Speaker 2: I it's wild, but it's not impossible.

548
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Speaker 1: And then there's the whole global warming thing, right, I mean,

549
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if the ice caps melt, whatever's down there is going

550
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to be revealed eventually, That's true.

551
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of a double edged sword, isn't it,

552
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Because on the one hand, it would be amazing to

553
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finally see what's been hidden under the ice for all

554
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these years. But on the other hand, it would mean

555
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that our planet has undergone some pretty catastrophic changes.

556
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the scary part, but it's also kind of exciting, right,

557
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I mean, who knows what we might find. It's like

558
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the ultimate mystery waiting.

559
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Speaker 2: To be solved, it is, And I think that's what

560
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makes Antarctica so captivating. It's this place that holds so

561
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much potential for discovery, for rewriting history, for challenging everything

562
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we thought we knew about our world.

563
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a giant question mark at the bottom

564
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of the map, exactly.

565
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Speaker 2: And the more we learn about it, the more questions

566
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we seem to have. And that's what makes this whole

567
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:55,960
deep die so fascinating because it's not just about finding answers.

568
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It's about asking the right questions, and I think that's

569
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something for all all of us to keep in mind,

570
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not just when we're thinking about Antarctica, but about everything,

571
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because the world is full of mysteries, and it's up

572
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:11,839
to us to explore them, to question what we're told,

573
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and to never stop searching for the truth. Well said,

574
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thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think you've given our listeners a lot to think about,

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and who knows, maybe one day we'll finally uncover the

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secrets of Antarctica. Until then, the mystery continues.