Speaker 1: All right, Diana Rob, welcome Sasquatch Theory. How are you
Speaker 1: guys doing today? Good?
Speaker 2: How are you pretty good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent? And it's an absolute pleasure to have
Speaker 1: you on today's show, Diana Rob, If you would tell
Speaker 1: me a little bit about yourselves, where you're from, and
Speaker 1: your encounters and experiences from the very beginning, please, Well.
Speaker 3: I'm Diana. I was born in Harlan County, Kentucky, raised
Speaker 3: in Lexton. Then I moved for to for sales for
Speaker 3: like twenty three years and met him and moved down here.
Speaker 1: Now we're here excellent, And at what point did you
Speaker 1: guys have your first experience? If you would put me
Speaker 1: in your shoes and walk me through that first encounter.
Speaker 2: Well, I was born and raised in Lexton, and uh,
Speaker 2: I got my mom and dad. I had a twin
Speaker 2: sister and my older sister, and my dad got me
Speaker 2: in hunting fishing real early, you know. And uh, once
Speaker 2: he took me the first time, I really enjoyed it,
Speaker 2: you know. And we moved to where U be closer,
Speaker 2: uh Plass south East Kentucky, U Place, Classic County, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: And uh we moved down here in ninety six and
Speaker 2: uh we were it's a big part of Kentucky there,
Speaker 2: I mean the Daniel Boone National Forest. It's right. It
Speaker 2: was less than a mile down the road from where
Speaker 2: we lived at and toward London there and uh, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: We just always went hunting and you know, squore hunting
Speaker 2: was the main thing we got into, of course, uh
Speaker 2: deer hunting you know around November and stuff, but sometimes
Speaker 2: around Thanksgiving and we would uh that morning, you know,
Speaker 2: we would go we went squore huntings back back about
Speaker 2: ninety eight. You know. Uh it was real cold that morning,
Speaker 2: and like I said, it was on two miles down
Speaker 2: the road where we went. And there's a little area
Speaker 2: called the Nathan McClure Trail and uh, just a branch
Speaker 2: part of the Daniel Boue National Forest back in there.
Speaker 2: As a or a sergeant and Lieutenant Nathan McClure and
Speaker 2: had a little battle there out with some Indians and
Speaker 2: a little burial and everything out there. But there's some
Speaker 2: branches that goes out there different places, uh, and everything
Speaker 2: old coal mines back in there and stuff. It's just
Speaker 2: the territory. I mean you could walk your butt off
Speaker 2: and not even touch even an inch of it. And uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know how many states or whatever the Daniel
Speaker 2: Boue National Force goes through, but I know down mcure
Speaker 2: County Wildlife Refuge down through there. But when me and Dad,
Speaker 2: we always try to get in the heart of it
Speaker 2: and get in there where you know no one's being
Speaker 2: or you know. And of course when we hunt, we
Speaker 2: always try to, especially deer hunting, we try to get
Speaker 2: in there about an air for it. Alight letter sent
Speaker 2: die down everything and we went back to a place
Speaker 2: it was called the old sawdust Piles and uh uh
Speaker 2: we were parked that morning. Uh it was so it
Speaker 2: was it was probably back in ninety eight and about
Speaker 2: around like the Thanksgiving I think it was, and uh
Speaker 2: just a early squirrel hunting morning. And I mean it
Speaker 2: was so it looked like the frost was so heavy.
Speaker 2: I mean you, uh, ground crunching, you couldn't sneak up
Speaker 2: on anything or anything. What it was a so cold
Speaker 2: and just brisk. And we split up, and uh, I
Speaker 2: went about down thirty yards down from what they call
Speaker 2: it sawdust piles from where we park and uh I
Speaker 2: just went ahead and I was sitting on a lag
Speaker 2: my dad went about maybe fifty yards to the right
Speaker 2: down this little ravine, and uh I had too. Uh
Speaker 2: I was watching this entry and uh, I want ahead,
Speaker 2: and I sep a butt down there on this sould
Speaker 2: log there's on the ground there, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: UH seen something started squaking and stuff, and uh had
Speaker 2: a squirrel come out and as a big old entry
Speaker 2: and then probably about maybe behind the dentry, probably about
Speaker 2: maybe not even six seven yards was a big, biggest
Speaker 2: pine thicket, you know. And uh, first squirrel come out
Speaker 2: and uh branched to the left there and I shot
Speaker 2: and got it. It dropped, and uh another one flair
Speaker 2: to the right, I dropped and both squirrels fell probably
Speaker 2: maybe not even seven to ten feet apart, you know.
Speaker 2: The third one come out and uh I tried it
Speaker 2: and I missed, and uh, of course, uh here in Kentucky,
Speaker 2: my shotgun only held three modified you know, the sixteen
Speaker 2: games I had, so I had to reload. And uh
Speaker 2: so I flipped it over and I'm starting to reload,
Speaker 2: and UH seen something flicker and uh in my mind,
Speaker 2: uh waved. My dad taught me and raised me hunting.
Speaker 2: I thought, figure maybe it was like a deer tail
Speaker 2: flick flew up or something, you know, and uh as
Speaker 2: I looked, you know, to me, it just everything happened
Speaker 2: so fast, you know, it was just to me, it
Speaker 2: was like the tree had come alive, bent over, picked
Speaker 2: up my two squirrels, you know, was just within one reach,
Speaker 2: you know, turned made about two not even two and
Speaker 2: a half strides, and went into the pine ticket and
Speaker 2: was gone. And like I said it, people are like, well,
Speaker 2: could you describe her this and that? Man, there's there's
Speaker 2: no way I would be lying if I did. And
Speaker 2: like I said, where the ground was so cold, up
Speaker 2: more and crunchy. You know, my dad had heard me shoot,
Speaker 2: and uh at that time, I don't know how much
Speaker 2: time it was, you know, because I'm I'm staring at
Speaker 2: the woods and shots probably with a shell still trying
Speaker 2: to it and put it in the shotgun there and
Speaker 2: at this time, you know, like I said, I don't
Speaker 2: know how much time it took. But my dad was
Speaker 2: My dad was up within the social and distance. Uh.
Speaker 2: Uh He's like, uh, you heard her shoot? You are right,
Speaker 2: You're right, you know, And uh to him, I mean,
Speaker 2: there ain't no. I was about twenty two years old,
Speaker 2: and uh I couldn't get nothing out. My mumbling I was,
Speaker 2: you know, just shock, and uh he's like, give me
Speaker 2: that shotgun. Boy, you're on you're on dope, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know it's just uh he said, get to the truck,
Speaker 2: you know, and uh like like I said, I just uh,
Speaker 2: still trying to get things out and and I'm I'm
Speaker 2: about almost two feet from the truck. Uh, I'm twenty
Speaker 2: years old. I got a butt whooping coming or you know,
Speaker 2: don't know really what's in store. But uh, at that time,
Speaker 2: I hear my dad holler at me, and I turned
Speaker 2: around and he's knelt down, uh with both guns there,
Speaker 2: and he's looking at something on the ground there and
Speaker 2: uh so he's back to him and uh, you hear
Speaker 2: it all the time, and uh one footprint and thank
Speaker 2: god there was a footprint there. It'd saved my hide.
Speaker 2: But uh the footprint was just I mean it was
Speaker 2: something you know, just like maybe maybe anywhere between thirteen
Speaker 2: to sixteen inches. I can't really remember, but I think
Speaker 2: it was like a right footprint because and you know,
Speaker 2: all the toes and everything, but the big toe and
Speaker 2: the little toe had had a claw come out, you know,
Speaker 2: probably about maybe two inches or you know, not on
Speaker 2: the other toes or anything, just the big toe and
Speaker 2: little toe. And uh so by that time I'd calmed
Speaker 2: down a little bit, and he said what happened? And
Speaker 2: told him exactly what happened, and we made uh we said, well,
Speaker 2: let's go over there, and we walked back to the
Speaker 2: dentry and I told him about where you know, the
Speaker 2: two squirrels it fell, exactly what happened, what I saw,
Speaker 2: and about about where I could pretty much see where
Speaker 2: it go in the woods there, and uh like I said,
Speaker 2: it was a real real thick pine thicket there. And
Speaker 2: we started walking around and looking and everything.
Speaker 1: But uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as we got back through, soon we
Speaker 2: get to the pine Ticket, I had to watch where
Speaker 2: I was going. I've never been that far in there before,
Speaker 2: you know it. I mean, it wasn't thirty yards in
Speaker 2: that pine ticket. I seen a brand new orange vest
Speaker 2: and I don't know how long it been hanging out there,
Speaker 2: but it was hanging on a limb and it was
Speaker 2: a two hundred foot dropped bluff on either side of
Speaker 2: this canyon where the Pine Ticket led me to. And
Speaker 2: we're just standing there and everything, and you know, I was, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what happened? And I'm still trying to understand
Speaker 2: what I saw. You know, I was like, it wasn't
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, a big old dent tree,
Speaker 2: like a like a black gum tree or something like that.
Speaker 2: It's just like it been over picked up the two squirrels,
Speaker 2: you know, turned and just disappeared into the thicket there.
Speaker 2: And what got me was I know, I at least
Speaker 2: been sitting there twenty minutes, you know, listening and uh,
Speaker 2: because I know walking in there made a lot of
Speaker 2: noise and everything, but uh, don't It's just you ponder
Speaker 2: on a lot, like how long was that thing there?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean obviously it was there for a while,
Speaker 2: but how cold it was. It's just it's it's very
Speaker 2: it's very startling, you know. And that right there really
Speaker 2: got me to where, you know, I always hunt with
Speaker 2: my dad and everything, and uh there's been a few
Speaker 2: times I've hunted by myself on the property whish to
Speaker 2: have and everything, but uh, I never go alone or
Speaker 2: without protection. You know. Here for a while in place County,
Speaker 2: like when you could bow hunt, you weren't allowed to
Speaker 2: carry it far arm, you know. But uh, it's just
Speaker 2: sometimes what they don't know don't hurt you because you
Speaker 2: know about that's all you got, you know, you got
Speaker 2: to have something to back up with here and now
Speaker 2: now you can you know, and everything. And it's just,
Speaker 2: uh that right there really got me into it, you know,
Speaker 2: because you just don't know. You know, I don't know
Speaker 2: what's out there. People can say that if I was
Speaker 2: in that situation, I know what I would do. I
Speaker 2: would do this. You don't know until until it happens.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I'm not scared to say that
Speaker 2: I froze. I mean I did. I mean my dad
Speaker 2: was you know, he I had two sisters growing up
Speaker 2: with me. I mean he was strict and uh it's
Speaker 2: just you know the way he raised us and uh,
Speaker 2: I mean hunting and fishing and you know where I
Speaker 2: am now and you know we uh we had a
Speaker 2: tragedy a while back while my twin sister was murdered
Speaker 2: and uh, you know still never you know, found out
Speaker 2: what happened and everything, but you know, it was just
Speaker 2: a lot of things. Who in this world will never
Speaker 2: understand you. You want to know you asked the questions
Speaker 2: and never never going to be the right answers. You know,
Speaker 2: just things we don't staying and uh, you know, you
Speaker 2: wonder if it's something like the government, you wonder if
Speaker 2: it's something else, you know.
Speaker 3: And see now years later here comes twenty twenty and
Speaker 3: it's just when we met. And later on about a
Speaker 3: year later, twenty twenty one, we were like, hum, well
Speaker 3: our kids, you know, my kids are grown and you
Speaker 3: don't have any. And I was like, well, let's go camping.
Speaker 2: I got it, got us a little camper there, and
Speaker 2: uh we went camping to the about not even maybe
Speaker 2: just a quarter mile from we're uh where I had
Speaker 2: to that incident, and uh, camping and everything. We camped
Speaker 2: for three months and uh straight you know, uh and
Speaker 2: talking about like the first few days, I mean, you
Speaker 2: know we were there, we're just you know how you
Speaker 2: go in the woods, you just think you make a
Speaker 2: lot of noise, and you know, like I said, we
Speaker 2: go hunting. We get there a little early, so we
Speaker 2: let her sent die down and let everything come back
Speaker 2: from normal. And but when we was camping, uh, the
Speaker 2: first few days, it was like the whole place was dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like no birds, no squirrels, no, no nothing.
Speaker 2: And I have a rescue dog, and the first night
Speaker 2: we was there, it was that morning it was getting daylight,
Speaker 2: but not all the way. You know, you're back there
Speaker 2: in the woods and you know it takes a little
Speaker 2: bit before it gets fully light. But we were hit
Speaker 2: with the smell and the man, Yeah, it woke us up.
Speaker 2: It lingered forever, and we we know there was bearing
Speaker 2: area and everything, but say the cooking.
Speaker 3: We had cooked out on a campfire the night before
Speaker 3: and I had like my pans out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if a bear, if it was, they would
Speaker 2: have I had I had a bag hanging for our cans,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, pop cans or whatever, anything like that.
Speaker 2: Anything like that was man bear, we would have at least
Speaker 2: seen it or or or would at least would have
Speaker 2: come around or been in on the camp site. You know.
Speaker 2: But the smell, it lingered forever all the way to
Speaker 2: almost I mean wait after daylight, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And never seen nothing, never heard.
Speaker 3: Nothing, It didn't touch anything. The silence, it's like it
Speaker 3: was curious. And I always told him, I said, it
Speaker 3: remembers you. It's waiting for his breakfast.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was just finally, you know, like for
Speaker 2: my dog. He will growl, he'll bark, I mean, least
Speaker 2: a little noise, who hear whatever. My dog didn't move,
Speaker 2: I mean he he. He wasn't budgeting. He was just
Speaker 2: sitting there just looking around like you know, he knew.
Speaker 2: And uh and I can't explain the smell. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just day. It was death warmed over, you know,
Speaker 2: but it woke us up for something to come up
Speaker 2: at come up, I mean smell to wake you up
Speaker 2: and to stay there for that long a time, you
Speaker 2: figured at least see something or hear some kind of
Speaker 2: sign or something like that, but or at least be
Speaker 2: up in our cager. I mean a bear. I mean
Speaker 2: that's why. I mean I told her, I said, I'll
Speaker 2: ever camp again in my life, I mean my fat
Speaker 2: but I'd just be a big old burrito for it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, at least with a camper.
Speaker 2: I got a little a little bit of time to
Speaker 2: you know, or give my protection or I can't outrun nobody.
Speaker 2: I've I've had a few surgeries here on my hips,
Speaker 2: so uh, you know it's uh, it's it poses you
Speaker 2: and you know the like we were camped about uh
Speaker 2: about two three months ago, and uh we went out
Speaker 2: there and camped all night and everything, and uh, just
Speaker 2: from here, like I said, it was from that area.
Speaker 2: But we started seeing these these orbs house yeah, and
Speaker 2: uh the out front of my dad's house, these red orbs.
Speaker 2: We uh, I've never seen it before in my life.
Speaker 2: And my Dad's like, what is that? And it was
Speaker 2: a fleet of them, not like one or two or three,
Speaker 2: just didn't like say a little thing. They came up
Speaker 2: and it was like maybe twenty five thirty of them,
Speaker 2: five ten, you know, in a row, like in the
Speaker 2: fleet like you know, military like whatever. But they was
Speaker 2: the reddish, pinkish looking the oars, you know. And there
Speaker 2: was someone else that that saw them, that was visiting
Speaker 2: their parents and everything. You didn't hear much about it.
Speaker 2: And out there where we were camping at we would
Speaker 2: see these flashes of.
Speaker 3: Like camera flashes. Yeah, like we see them in the backyard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, red and stuff. Just like what is that? You know,
Speaker 2: I'm fifty years old and I've seen a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff in my life that you know, I can't explain.
Speaker 2: But you know, sitting there watching this with dad and
Speaker 2: you know, everything's like whoa. You know, it makes you
Speaker 2: wonder because why things are going ever since, ever since
Speaker 2: twenty everything's changed, you know.
Speaker 3: And like we'll be sitting out, you know, out back
Speaker 3: at night and behind our the house is woods and
Speaker 3: my crops and stuff, and you'll hear like what we
Speaker 3: would think is wooden knocks and down a little way
Speaker 3: from us. I swear I hear like the hell because
Speaker 3: it's one single howl and nothing else, you know. And
Speaker 3: if it's coyotes, you would hear a bunch of dogs,
Speaker 3: you know, working with her or whatnot. But I hear
Speaker 3: one hell and that's it. In the whistles, oh man,
Speaker 3: we'll be asleep in a camper near somebody whistled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when we was out there camping. H you know,
Speaker 2: I've heard animals make different noises like you know, here's
Speaker 2: the bobcasts or whatever. The sounds like a woman's screaming
Speaker 2: or a fox or whatever, you know, and the things
Speaker 2: we've heard. I mean, like I said, I've hunted out
Speaker 2: all my license I can remember. And uh, you know, Uh,
Speaker 2: you get in there now for a daylight letting you're
Speaker 2: sent down down and everything just listening. Man, Uh you're
Speaker 2: you're you feel sometimes we'ren't a we'ren't a blind and everything.
Speaker 2: We don't get up the tree stand no more and everything,
Speaker 2: so it's a little bit different. You know. I kind
Speaker 2: of feel I felt better when I was in a
Speaker 2: stand because hey, I'm all way up here. What can
Speaker 2: you do? You know? But uh, being there in the
Speaker 2: blind and everything, it's just like I'm a double breed
Speaker 2: over dad, you know, and stuff. But you uh just
Speaker 2: don't know sometimes, you know, And and if I did
Speaker 2: find out, if then really uh, you know, it just
Speaker 2: makes it curious. And there's things out there. I know
Speaker 2: there are, I mean, and people just you know, don't
Speaker 2: know until they are in that situation or have a
Speaker 2: sighting or whatever, you know, because uh, the feeling of
Speaker 2: always been watched. I mean, that's that's the way I
Speaker 2: feel as soon as I step into the woods. You know.
Speaker 2: That Danty boone that's for us. It's got I'm uh,
Speaker 2: it's got some secrets and stuff, and it's not afraid
Speaker 2: to share it with you and especially take your lunch,
Speaker 2: your squirrels.
Speaker 3: But uh, you see, he says he always feels watched.
Speaker 3: I don't. I never do. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like eyes. I don't think I would fear satisfatch.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because of the encounter or something, but I
Speaker 2: just I have that feeling you know, always, you know,
Speaker 2: being watched and stuff especially well, I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: when you when you're hunting stuff, your your senses are
Speaker 2: more open, you know, more aware your you know, surroundings
Speaker 2: and everything. And it's, uh, you gotta be because you
Speaker 2: don't know you especially watching out for another hunter and
Speaker 2: uh down here, I mean that orange. I want to
Speaker 2: wear it all orange, you know, because oh I didn't
Speaker 2: see uh have you seen things going?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I took a couple of brush shots. What what do
Speaker 2: you mean to brushshots? You know? I saw something moving
Speaker 2: in the brush over there. Man, you got I mean,
Speaker 2: you hear stuff stuff like that and wonder why you know,
Speaker 2: people getting shot and killed or whatever. You know, it's
Speaker 2: it's nuts, you know, got to know what you're shooting at,
Speaker 2: but it happens, you know.
Speaker 3: And see, I've always I've always wanted to try because
Speaker 3: you know, I've watched different things that gifting them, like
Speaker 3: setting out like apples in a tree or something, and
Speaker 3: just you know, out of curiosity, we haven't been there.
Speaker 1: So how big do you think the white Sasquatch was
Speaker 1: how tall.
Speaker 2: Big? Yeah, well I've been back there going since then.
Speaker 2: And like I said, we're my dad. I think my
Speaker 2: dad is about six foot tall. I almost say about
Speaker 2: least at least seven seven and a half. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I can't really give you full detail where everything happens
Speaker 2: so fast, you know, or I sitting down and just shocked,
Speaker 2: you know. But like I said, anybody asked, man's just
Speaker 2: like the tree had come alive, you know, but huge.
Speaker 2: But the way it moved, you know, like I said,
Speaker 2: me coming in there that morning, how cold and crunchy
Speaker 2: the ground was and frosty. I didn't hear nothing. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just picked up my two squirrels in the
Speaker 2: same you know, and maybe like two two lance strides
Speaker 2: into that pine ticket and just gone, you know, like
Speaker 2: the pine thicket just ate everything up and like where
Speaker 2: it went from there? Wow, after seeing the big bluff,
Speaker 2: the canyon on each side at least two hundred foot drop,
Speaker 2: I have no idea, and I mean that really, you know,
Speaker 2: but if I had to guess, like I said, about
Speaker 2: seven you know, and the color, like you said, the
Speaker 2: tree was like grayish black looking, you know, And like
Speaker 2: I said, this was around November Thanksgiving, so you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the leaves and everything's off the trees,
Speaker 2: you know, but it was frosted that morning. It looked
Speaker 2: like a real big light snowed on. I mean, it
Speaker 2: bleaned in with the tree. It's just like I said,
Speaker 2: the tree come alive. It's what the best way I
Speaker 2: can describe it, and you know, being honest, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, could you see the face at all?
Speaker 2: No, What I pretty much want to what I'm thinking
Speaker 2: is when I saw that flicker as I was loading
Speaker 2: my shotgun is when I think it been over, because
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't remember it stepping out. I don't
Speaker 2: remember anything. It's just and for me to just for
Speaker 2: it where it was standing, and how it was there
Speaker 2: blending in with that tree the whole time. I mean
Speaker 2: it was it was just like it wasn't you know.
Speaker 2: I hear all the time the cloaking or I hear
Speaker 2: about it's just like it just come out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: And then how how did I not see that? Because
Speaker 2: it wasn't maybe twenty five thirty yards from it. It's
Speaker 2: not you know, that ain't that far. Good eyesight and everything,
Speaker 2: but uh, it's just you know, it been over. I'm
Speaker 2: thinking that's what made me what I saw the flicker
Speaker 2: or something, maybe the arms or whatever.
Speaker 3: When you say the flicker, I always think like it
Speaker 3: it I don't know how to explain it. What interdimensional
Speaker 3: like it came Yeah, I mean it came through and
Speaker 3: then picked them up and that, you know, I always
Speaker 3: thought that when he said flicker.
Speaker 2: For it to be standing there and me not see it, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it must like the how it blend in.
Speaker 2: It was just some kind of I wish I had
Speaker 2: came over like that, you know you always yeah, Yah,
Speaker 2: that was uh, you know, like I said, when I
Speaker 2: first the flicker, it was like it had already been
Speaker 2: over and it was grabbing my two squirrels. Like I said,
Speaker 2: my when them two squirrels fell out the tree, they
Speaker 2: want that far apart. But it picked them up both.
Speaker 2: It's around the same time and may and when it
Speaker 2: turned maybe two two and a half strides into that
Speaker 2: pine ticket behind that got that injury and gone. You know,
Speaker 2: that was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And when it picked up the squirrels, did it
Speaker 1: do it quickly or slowly?
Speaker 2: Pretty much like normal? I mean it's just been over
Speaker 2: grabbed them turned. I mean as big as it was,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like I said, and how
Speaker 2: everything happened so fast. I mean, here I am, like
Speaker 2: I said, I I've never been like at my life,
Speaker 2: but I froze and it's just everything happened so fast.
Speaker 2: It's just been over pretty much like when I saw
Speaker 2: the flickering, turned two and a half strides going into
Speaker 2: that thicket. And I'm talking about a real big thicket.
Speaker 2: You know. Uh, you could stay in that thicket maybe
Speaker 2: not even a few feet and you know, inside it
Speaker 2: and be well camouflage. But whatever this was was really
Speaker 2: well camouflage, you know, be there the whole time you
Speaker 2: not see it, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It makes me wonder though, because you said the flicker,
Speaker 1: like did it was it cloak cloaking and then it
Speaker 1: just appeared or was it like a white tail deer
Speaker 1: like when it flickers its tail and you catch white
Speaker 1: you see.
Speaker 2: That's what when I saw the flicker, in my mind,
Speaker 2: I was thinking it was I thought it was like
Speaker 2: a white tailed deer, like a flash of lawre or whatever.
Speaker 2: But that's what got me to look up because I
Speaker 2: was thinking, oh, there's a deer back here, you know,
Speaker 2: or jumped up the deer for me shooting nose squirrels
Speaker 2: or whatever. But that's what really got my attention. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like it turned on the light, you know, because
Speaker 2: I was loading my shotgun. I hadn't even got the
Speaker 2: first one in, you know, and everything. So that's you know,
Speaker 2: I fired three shots, That's what it was. And of
Speaker 2: course I had loaded again, and uh yeah, I never
Speaker 2: got gun. I never got the gun loaded until after
Speaker 2: my dad saw that print and we went back in
Speaker 2: that thicket, you know, looking and it's really too.
Speaker 1: There's been many times when I'd be honeing out the
Speaker 1: woods and I'll hear like this loud crash and all
Speaker 1: the squirrels barking in the trees, and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I wonder what happened. Now, I'm now I'm curious if
Speaker 1: they're being hunted by sasquatch. I don't know, if you've
Speaker 1: ever heard that sounds like a big rocks being thrown
Speaker 1: across the trees. The squirrels that get up there and
Speaker 1: just start barking at something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they you just don't know. And ever
Speaker 2: since that that happened, you know, I was, like I said,
Speaker 2: I was one to raised Luxton. But someone here in
Speaker 2: Plants County that made the hair of Leader newspaper where
Speaker 2: they found French. And that's back when I was a
Speaker 2: little kid, you know, and never really heard about it,
Speaker 2: really got into it until you know, then, you know,
Speaker 2: when I moved down and I've heard of it, but
Speaker 2: never really got into like a lot of it, watching
Speaker 2: stuff about it, and you know, until after that happened,
Speaker 2: and I really got into it then. And you know,
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of fake stuff out there.
Speaker 2: There's you know, there's and stuff like that, and you
Speaker 2: know a lot of watch we watch the TV all
Speaker 2: time at Ai and stuff. I mean, AYI is getting
Speaker 2: it crazy. You can't tell the real from the fake,
Speaker 2: you know. And uh, yeah, I remember I watched you.
Speaker 2: We watched your podcast with I think his name is
Speaker 2: Jimmy and Daniel Boom National Forest, And uh when I
Speaker 2: first saw that, I was like wow, because we'd we'd
Speaker 2: shared our story and stuff. And you know, my dad,
Speaker 2: you know, I cut up a lot of time because
Speaker 2: I joke a lot and stuff. But uh, people hear
Speaker 2: me telling this story, they's like, oh, you know, but
Speaker 2: when I have my dad right there with me and
Speaker 2: him telling it. They know, you know, he don't, you know,
Speaker 2: just straight by the Bible and everything. But uh, I
Speaker 2: thank the Lord every day for that footprint. I mean,
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was in store for when
Speaker 2: I got home.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I've taken a lot of reports from Kentucky,
Speaker 1: a lot of big foot reports, and they all seem
Speaker 1: to be in a core area around Burnside, Somerset, London, Corbin.
Speaker 1: But if you look on a map, you're like, man,
Speaker 1: I got these things cornered there. They are in a
Speaker 1: core area, but when you get in there, it's massive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and too you know, I'm starting to think
Speaker 3: like they're limited to our our national parks, to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's uh thed Daniel win as forced
Speaker 2: U the Mark Twain. There's the the area like.
Speaker 3: I said, uh, the National Forest area.
Speaker 2: And stuff like that. I mean, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're protected. I don't know. If you know, there
Speaker 2: was a couple of states memory it was, well what
Speaker 2: they have been protected, like up in New York or
Speaker 2: I forget what state and stuff, And I'm like, really,
Speaker 2: why do y'all have it protected? Because y'all have had
Speaker 2: to have some kind of sighting or something to or
Speaker 2: some kind of proof, you know, or something. And you
Speaker 2: know we had the Todd standing, you had all the
Speaker 2: US over there and the Canada. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 2: at least what's the different shows and stuff. You know,
Speaker 2: it's just but you hear these, you know, get to
Speaker 2: have like yours and these few other podcasts where you know,
Speaker 2: you can tell the person, you can tell they've seen
Speaker 2: something's happened, something genuine. You know, you can just tell
Speaker 2: look in their eyes and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 2: whether they're you know, just trying to get a fame
Speaker 2: for a little bit, or just you know, anybody's going
Speaker 2: to real cool you or anything like that. There's always that,
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, being able to share your story
Speaker 2: and stuff, you know, at least getting it out. I
Speaker 2: mean a lot of people can't go back in the
Speaker 2: woods because of what happened or what Like.
Speaker 3: What we were watching this morning, he said, I will
Speaker 3: never hunt again. I will never step foot back in
Speaker 3: the woods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we do. I have because but don't think
Speaker 2: I mean I'm protected. You know, I'm probably overprotected. But
Speaker 2: just nowadays, you just don't know, man.
Speaker 3: But you know, some people say there's there's different types
Speaker 3: of side squatch or whatever. But I mean, should you
Speaker 3: fear them or or should you not? Should you be
Speaker 3: friend on them? I mean that's just questions I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that depends on the situation, and
Speaker 1: I think you can gauge that pretty well, like whether
Speaker 1: they're gifting you small rocks and you never feel threatened.
Speaker 1: But there's certain cases where people out of the woods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just know when something's off.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So the smell that you guys experienced, would you say
Speaker 1: it was like sewage or like death, like.
Speaker 3: Like probably like a mixture of boats, like it was bad, just.
Speaker 2: Like I don't not really saying the skunky smell, but no,
Speaker 2: it's just death. You know, it's just got off the
Speaker 2: stuff being laid out forever. And and you know sometimes
Speaker 2: when you get that, like say, you know, snuntsman or whatever,
Speaker 2: it's not too long, it'll go away just a few
Speaker 2: minutes or whatever I'm talking about. For over an hour
Speaker 2: and we don't know.
Speaker 3: If he was just walking around or it was walking
Speaker 3: around our camper, yea being.
Speaker 2: Curious or something, because it was way out we didn't
Speaker 2: see it. It was out of sight, you know, but
Speaker 2: for something to linger that long. I mean, wasn't us
Speaker 2: because we've just been there a few days, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the lights that you guys encountered, were they
Speaker 1: like in the woods or up in the sky.
Speaker 2: Both both we seen them out there where we were
Speaker 2: camping at. You know, it was like in the trees
Speaker 2: and the stuff met me and my dad saw out
Speaker 2: here in front of the house here in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: They come up behind the house across the road in
Speaker 2: the sky they come up. I mean they were just
Speaker 2: coming up.
Speaker 3: You like, are those runs?
Speaker 2: Yeah that dad thought maybe first they were drones, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, these were like pinkish reddish looking round
Speaker 2: and they were they were in a line like kind
Speaker 2: of in the line like drones, like a fleet like five, ten, fifteen, twenty.
Speaker 2: Was at least twenty five to thirty of them, and
Speaker 2: it was just so quiet, and we washed them and
Speaker 2: there's at least twenty minutes they went over the head
Speaker 2: and headed back toward the north side there of Somerset,
Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, I wish I had a phone at
Speaker 2: that time, but uh, we was just sitting there amaze.
Speaker 2: That stunned us. You know, just what are we looking at?
Speaker 2: You know, And uh, I've seen it on the TV
Speaker 2: there a few times people see two or three you
Speaker 2: know whatever, but not no twenty five thirty of.
Speaker 3: Them, you know, and see in the backyard like for
Speaker 3: the last few years now, we see like camera flashes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, if it was a lightning bug, it would
Speaker 3: be like green that we.
Speaker 2: Would see red, I know, red and like the orange
Speaker 2: orange red or whatever. But little flashes, you know, you'd
Speaker 2: see them, you know, and some I mean it's just
Speaker 2: it's it's weird. It's yeah, it's weird. It's just you know,
Speaker 2: you know it's not a bug because you're out there
Speaker 2: a lightning bug, you know, you know what that is.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean it's just uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, you know. And we got we had
Speaker 2: to film of it and stuff on the phone there.
Speaker 2: I watched stuff up in the sky there from the camera.
Speaker 2: You know, it can't be starlink. H Then you think satellites,
Speaker 2: I'm like, they don't move like that. You know. It
Speaker 2: was a couple of years ago we had one that
Speaker 2: was flashing out here, a star and stuff, and I
Speaker 2: shot my green laser at it and when I did that,
Speaker 2: it's shot straight from where I shined it way back
Speaker 2: over here, and uh, and then I looked at her
Speaker 2: said I'm going in. I'm thinking that. No, no, that
Speaker 2: for some reason, I don't know why it did that
Speaker 2: to me, but I'm going to the house, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And uh, I didn't. I wouldn't expect
Speaker 2: me to do that, you know, because I just it
Speaker 2: was just shy flickering, you know, the star or wasn't
Speaker 2: put no star, But when it is shot back, I
Speaker 2: was like, no, no, I'm going in.
Speaker 3: And shit, now you have mentioned cloaking. Do you think
Speaker 3: they're cloaked or do you think they can come like
Speaker 3: in and out of our dimension or maybe both?
Speaker 1: I think both honestly, and I do. I feel like
Speaker 1: they're using portals. And also they can fully be here
Speaker 1: but be invisible. And that's from experience, it's not just theories.
Speaker 1: Like I've heard big lumberjacks walking around the woods close
Speaker 1: up there's nothing there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like you know, we have a camera looking
Speaker 3: down at our camper the night the whistle what we
Speaker 3: were in and had her window open in a perfect whistle,
Speaker 3: but nothing, nothing's around our.
Speaker 2: Camping were heard all the time, and there's been a
Speaker 2: few times instances I've heard clicking. Oh you know, I
Speaker 2: have no idea what that is, you know.
Speaker 1: M Now the flashes. Did you see the flashes before
Speaker 1: the activity or after.
Speaker 2: After? I've never seen no flashes or nothing during when
Speaker 2: I saw that. You know, it was just me and dad.
Speaker 2: But when we've been camping.
Speaker 3: We'll slashes and then here, yeah.
Speaker 2: We'll hear noises and stuff. Yeah, and like I said,
Speaker 2: but the woodenknocks and stuff. But the flashes of the
Speaker 2: last time, like when we went camping out there, it
Speaker 2: was maybe three months ago. The flashes I've never seen
Speaker 2: before in my life like that. And I mean not
Speaker 2: saying here or wherever. I'm just saying pere I never read.
Speaker 2: I mean it's just you know, like yeah, and and
Speaker 2: like red or orange, just you know, like right in
Speaker 2: the tree area. You know, we were looking and watching
Speaker 2: and I'm like wow, you know, and then then you
Speaker 2: hear noises and stuff. You just can't explain your trying,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to know what kind of like your
Speaker 2: animals stuff. You know, you're you're a bobcat in the
Speaker 2: middle the woods. You're sitting there again for daylight. Man,
Speaker 2: it's uh scary, it's scary, you know, but understanding them
Speaker 2: with them noises and sounds, you know, uh, because if
Speaker 2: you don't know what you know, you know, you don't
Speaker 2: you don't need to be in the woods anyway.
Speaker 3: Yea, they say it sounds like a woman scream.
Speaker 1: Now do you feel like the activity followed you home
Speaker 1: and it's kind of orbiting around your property every now
Speaker 1: and then?
Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, Like like when we went camp and there,
Speaker 2: we was there for three months, you know, and uh
Speaker 2: two or three months, and uh, you know the first
Speaker 2: few days, uh when we were there, I couldn't explain it,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you're out there in the middle
Speaker 2: of the Damniboone National Forests, in the woods.
Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody was around, only ones there, the only ones,
Speaker 3: you know, not to hear even birds, not to even
Speaker 3: hear nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean I know that, you know. And it's just us.
Speaker 2: We didn't have no radio blast and we're not like that,
Speaker 2: you know, but you know nothing, You're not hearing anything.
Speaker 3: And and it's weird, you know, because we're at home
Speaker 3: we hear the birds and squirrels and everything else. But
Speaker 3: out there, like I said, like you said, you don't.
Speaker 2: Even hear a bird, Yeah, and like that smell. How
Speaker 2: long it lingered out? I maybe, like she always said, like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe it knows that you were here and knows who
Speaker 2: you are. I said, it.
Speaker 3: Remembers you when he's waiting for another breakfast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's been a while, you know, since I've
Speaker 2: been back there, and uh yeah, you know, you know
Speaker 2: we was. I don't know how long me and Dad
Speaker 2: were back there because after the incident happened and the
Speaker 2: footprint walking back there that bluff, we stayed backer for
Speaker 2: quite a while because me I was looking for more
Speaker 2: prints and I couldn't find another print, no nothing. It's
Speaker 2: just just where we parked at right down from it,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe thirty yards from more we parked. Going
Speaker 2: into the woods, there was like salta spiles, you know,
Speaker 2: real hard dirt, you know, and just just never seen
Speaker 2: a footprint like that. All the shows I watched, every
Speaker 2: foot prints has been not not nothing with a claw.
Speaker 2: It's just not all the those but just a big
Speaker 2: toe and little toe. And I'm like, wow, you know,
Speaker 2: and that was that's wild, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely did the activity start right from the
Speaker 1: get go and you both were camping or yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: because Jimmy from the Daniel Boone National Forest, I think
Speaker 1: he said the same thing, that him and his family
Speaker 1: were camping out there for like three months and that
Speaker 1: sasquatch came down the mountain and then I think there
Speaker 1: was three that surrounded them.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, it's just like uh like I said, like
Speaker 2: she was telling me, like maybe remember me, you know,
Speaker 2: uh yeah, my, you know, because a lot of people
Speaker 2: like that. I didn't shoot at it. I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't have time to even think. You know, I'm still
Speaker 2: over here. You know. My dad's eyes like get to
Speaker 2: the truck, you know. You know, It's just I didn't
Speaker 2: have time to do anything. But yeah, yeah started you know.
Speaker 2: And uh I'm not like where we're at now. I
Speaker 2: mean we're probably about thirty miles from where it's at,
Speaker 2: but uh yeah, I feel things. I mean it's something
Speaker 2: like you know, I'll hear knocks and then I'll knock back.
Speaker 2: You know, I know part should be doing that, but
Speaker 2: uh uh.
Speaker 3: We would whistle back, but none of us can. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't whistle that good. And uh I sure can't
Speaker 2: walk like I used to, and everything I just but uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know, different areas and but
Speaker 2: there's more they're they're here. It's just uh I don't
Speaker 2: know how many or whatever. But uh yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of people, I mean a lot of people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't believe this and that. Well, until you're in
Speaker 2: that situation and have that experience exciting, you know, that awakening,
Speaker 2: you don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that completely. Do you guys ever
Speaker 1: go out looking for sasquatch? I know you said you do,
Speaker 1: would not from time to.
Speaker 3: Time specifically looking we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do a lot of manuficiing and everything. Of course,
Speaker 2: I've been down with all the surgeries and stuff I've had,
Speaker 2: and uh you know, we uh we joke and stuff.
Speaker 2: We've we've we've we're going to start going out there
Speaker 2: here soon whenever I can heal up, and you know
Speaker 2: I can't go to be far. But uh you know,
Speaker 2: we're starting our own little, our little dueo thing here.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that I made. Uh it's called the One
Speaker 2: Step Big Foot Society. It's like one step and I
Speaker 2: got the foot with the claws on, and then I
Speaker 2: got the B dot S dot you know of BS.
Speaker 2: I like a little humor every now and then people
Speaker 2: just you know, you gotta laugh sometimes and stuff. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think the Daniel Boone National Force is just.
Speaker 3: Uh, we don't ever go out there and look, you know,
Speaker 3: I look for it. It just like I feel like
Speaker 3: it comes to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like I wouldn't look for it when I
Speaker 2: was on and god knows, I didn't see nothing, you know.
Speaker 2: And uh, sometimes if you go out looking for it,
Speaker 2: you never you know, you don't have that luck or
Speaker 2: when you when you least expected. I think, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Think it studies you and then it be more things
Speaker 3: that's safe for it to be seen. You will see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like the old saying is go out looking for trouble.
Speaker 2: You know. It's just uh, like I said, we hear
Speaker 2: knocks and stuff. I don't know if I it's a
Speaker 2: good idea to knock back or what you know. Uh,
Speaker 2: We'll try to get all the information we can and stuff.
Speaker 2: But you know, if if we started to lay something
Speaker 2: out or food or whatever like that, then maybe maybe
Speaker 2: start something that we shouldn't have, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why we haven't gifted.
Speaker 2: He's up my squirrels. I mean gifted a couple of apples,
Speaker 2: they'll probably want McDonald's next.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, for sure. It could be possible that they
Speaker 1: mark people, tag them, follow them around when if somebody
Speaker 1: would knock right.
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know them, that's right. They're curious about
Speaker 2: as curious as we are. But it might be a
Speaker 2: little too curious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're initiated in the gang once you
Speaker 1: would knock or call.
Speaker 2: That's right. It's so true.
Speaker 3: If you know his experience, if it was after HARMSS,
Speaker 3: it would happen, you know. And that's why I always think,
Speaker 3: you know, they're out to see who and what we are,
Speaker 3: depending on maybe where you're at or if it's one
Speaker 3: size squadch for a different kind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously mine was hungry, so because he got the
Speaker 2: two squirrels and jetted, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like that wasn't his first time
Speaker 1: taking a hunter's kill.
Speaker 2: Oh. And like I said, how he blended in and
Speaker 2: the whole situation. I mean, we're we're planning on going
Speaker 2: back there here soon, and uh, my dad and everything.
Speaker 2: And of course I always have have the phones now
Speaker 2: because you know that was back in ninety eight when
Speaker 2: I had that and uh, there's been a lot of
Speaker 2: sightings in the dinner doing next for so now we
Speaker 2: have the technology, if you know, phones, camera, everybody's came
Speaker 2: on the phone, you know that drone stuff. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not lucky with drones. So I bought a ten
Speaker 2: dollar drone from the yard cell and they went up
Speaker 2: in the air and straight shot toward the woods. And
Speaker 2: I never saw I think again. I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 3: Two seconds gone, ten dollars gone, and it went up
Speaker 3: and it came down.
Speaker 1: And yeah, when you shoot a gun, a firearm, it
Speaker 1: could be ringing the dinner bell for these creatures. And
Speaker 1: I think they've learned that when they hear a gun shot,
Speaker 1: it's time to eat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Or you know, I've always heard they can smell the.
Speaker 2: What, yeah, the metal going in the woods with the firearm,
Speaker 2: they can smell the steel or whatever, and maybe that
Speaker 2: can make them mad or that could upset them. Or
Speaker 2: if you're in the woods with nothing, maybe more chance
Speaker 2: of a sign. But to me, I'm not going in
Speaker 2: the woods without it. You know, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: take that chance, you know, because you just don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, as long as I ain't gotta pulled out
Speaker 2: and nan as you. I mean, maybe you know he'll
Speaker 2: share the squirrels with me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. You never know. And are there
Speaker 1: any other experiences that you forgot to mention? Anything else
Speaker 1: range that's happened throughout your guys lives.
Speaker 3: If you want to hear something strange? What about the people?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had.
Speaker 3: A we had a thermal camera.
Speaker 2: I never heard about it. And I had a thermal
Speaker 2: camera behind my dad's garage. We still have it onto
Speaker 2: the thing I can find. I can find it on
Speaker 2: the phone and send it to you. And uh, I
Speaker 2: never knew what it was till someone said it on
Speaker 2: TV like a high behind? Is that? What was high behind?
Speaker 2: And we kept hearing something and I'm torn the thermal
Speaker 2: towards my dad's garage there and couple of trees right
Speaker 2: here and right here, and just sitting there, just watching,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you can tell what a
Speaker 2: human color is, you know what I'm saying. But this
Speaker 2: it peeked around the tree for a split second, the
Speaker 2: just the head and the little bit of the torso,
Speaker 2: you know, and and went right back behind the tree
Speaker 2: and we shot out, you know, I'm like, we went
Speaker 2: straight to it, you know, and nothing.
Speaker 3: And like on a thermal camera people show up as
Speaker 3: like four and red. Yeah this was blue I think yeah,
Speaker 3: yellow or blue yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And just the way it come out behind the tree
Speaker 2: and then went right back and I'm like, oh, it
Speaker 2: was like holy crap, you know, we were recording and everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just it was wild wow, And
Speaker 2: didn't know really what it was to And then someone
Speaker 2: said I've seen it somewhere on YouTube and it's like
Speaker 2: a car high behind and yeah, I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking we get down there and someone,
Speaker 2: you know, burglar or someone keeping behind the tree or something.
Speaker 3: It was too high up in the street for one,
Speaker 3: because the height it would have been been on seven
Speaker 3: seven half tall, and not to see the legs or
Speaker 3: nothing like that.
Speaker 2: That was that was weird. And like I said, it
Speaker 2: was at night. It was about maybe not even thirty
Speaker 2: yards from where we were standing. As fast as we
Speaker 2: got there, they couldn't have took off and we should
Speaker 2: have seen something or whatever.
Speaker 3: But nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's something you just can't explain, and it's
Speaker 2: just just yeah, green eyes. We've seen a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Just we were we had come back, well, he had
Speaker 3: come back from picked me up from work, and we
Speaker 3: parked our vehicle and we got out and I so
Speaker 3: happened to look back at the same time he does,
Speaker 3: and by the garage got three foot off the ground.
Speaker 3: Night two green blowing eyes.
Speaker 2: Just like two green eyes come around the house and
Speaker 2: then just went right back, you know, like I said,
Speaker 2: the the whatever it was behind that tree. It just
Speaker 2: we saw the old head and for so this was
Speaker 2: nothing but two yeah, two green eyes, green eyes. Snow,
Speaker 2: body know nothing and a lot of you know, we're
Speaker 2: not far from where the there was a battle here
Speaker 2: and Nancy, Kentucky is the Mill Springs battlefield. It's real,
Speaker 2: real bad battle you know and stuff, and uh, they
Speaker 2: used to have re enactments, so I don't think they
Speaker 2: do it anymore. But the ghost stories. Yeah, I had
Speaker 2: a friend down that lived not far from where the
Speaker 2: battle took place and everything. He was still here the
Speaker 2: drummer boy. You still hear the cannons, you know, and it's, uh,
Speaker 2: like I said, you're we're not far from that where
Speaker 2: that took place. And being around something like that horrific,
Speaker 2: all the deaths and everything. Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Kentucky has a lot of strange mysteries, whether it's Bigfoot
Speaker 1: dog Man, the Kentucky Goblin. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever heard of that.
Speaker 2: That's Hopkinsville Loom. Yeah, we got in and I got
Speaker 2: into it. Like I said, I was just sitting there
Speaker 2: watching TV one night, just called a show called Heiler.
Speaker 2: How do you watch that? It's hell, you're in that
Speaker 2: whole documentary And they come to Glass County, Kentucky and
Speaker 2: they were doing investigating and they're supposed to be season
Speaker 2: three coming out, and they didn't come out with it,
Speaker 2: and they progressed like where they was talking about it
Speaker 2: was like twenty twenty one. I think people that was
Speaker 2: in the Eastern State Hospital up there in Lexton is
Speaker 2: like sixty seven percent was from Plays County, Kentucky. Like
Speaker 2: what's in the water, you know?
Speaker 3: And not you said the limestone or whatever livestone courts,
Speaker 3: the courts, do you think that?
Speaker 2: You know they talk about the courts having a lot
Speaker 2: of the paranormal.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I definitely think there's a connection there
Speaker 1: with the crystal courts, limestone, granite rock and for some reason,
Speaker 1: those areas produce a lot more paranormal activity and sasquatch
Speaker 1: is supernatural in some way, shape or form. I would
Speaker 1: imagine it has something to do with the activity. Okay,
Speaker 1: anything else, you guys can think of any questions for me.
Speaker 1: You guys got something?
Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean I just like to pick your
Speaker 2: where uh where we see the killing Fields? Where? Where's that?
Speaker 2: Is that the Ozarks? Or is that where is the Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in the Ozarks and the Mark Twain National
Speaker 1: Forest in an area by the Current River.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to look it up in Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just thout you're the show and
Speaker 2: everything because I mean, you know, we watched a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff and on TV and stuff, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of bs and stuff, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, the other few podcasts we
Speaker 2: talked about, and yours definitely is just just you're down
Speaker 2: on the earth. You know, it's say, it's hard to
Speaker 2: a lot of people out here. You know, it's just
Speaker 2: tough enough just to be yourself. A lot of people
Speaker 2: out here just want to act like this, act like that,
Speaker 2: or some people just you know, stuck up, you know,
Speaker 2: and we moved down here. I mean people waved and
Speaker 2: waved and waved I mean I was just you know, everybody,
Speaker 2: and nowadays you don't. You don't see that no more.
Speaker 2: You know, they people rather just cushy than you know,
Speaker 2: and you know, going on with their day. You know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's just hard to find down to earth
Speaker 2: people or you know know I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just it's just you know, like walking your show and stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, people go. You know, like I say, it's
Speaker 2: a safe place to talk to people. I mean, anybody,
Speaker 2: you're going to be ridiculed no matter what, whaterever. But
Speaker 2: it's just a good good podcasts and platform that you have,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's just awesome. You know, it's just
Speaker 2: to have somewhere to talk and just that people that
Speaker 2: can relate, you find stuff that you can relate with someone.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just you know, then someone who's not
Speaker 2: even had an experience and just thing you do.
Speaker 3: Do you know now with you have you ever physically
Speaker 3: seen Big put or Yeah? I have.
Speaker 1: I've seen them multiple times and that's what got me
Speaker 1: into this whole subject. But I've been looking for them
Speaker 1: ever since. Now that I got all the gear, I
Speaker 1: don't see them anymore, so I know they're out there though,
Speaker 1: did you freeze?
Speaker 3: What was your reaction?
Speaker 2: Did you freeze up like.
Speaker 1: How you met the camera frozen?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was in shock for sure. I mean
Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't move. It was like my feet
Speaker 1: were cemented to the ground because I was just frozen.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say in fear, just shock, like, well, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I just saw that.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, and everybody's like, you don't know
Speaker 2: until you do see it, and then you know how
Speaker 2: like these tigers out here had that uh that frequency
Speaker 2: to word, it kind of like paralyze in for SAMD,
Speaker 2: w're kind of like paralyzed their victims or whatever. I'm
Speaker 2: just to me, I've always wondered if they, if Bigfoot
Speaker 2: had something like that, you know what, I'm saying the
Speaker 2: same thing, like, you know, to shock you, to stun you,
Speaker 2: to like, you know, just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think they have the ability to
Speaker 1: stun their prey. Also, if somebody has an injury, some
Speaker 1: sort of illness, I think they can hone in on that.
Speaker 1: It's a predatory instinct.
Speaker 3: And back to the cloaking and coming in and out
Speaker 3: of chorals, or whatnot. Do you do you think you
Speaker 3: can feel them if they were like fiel a presence
Speaker 3: near you, if they're cloaked, or.
Speaker 1: I think some people can. I think certain people, maybe
Speaker 1: like Rob, that there are certain parts of their brains
Speaker 1: that are activated and they're able to pick up on
Speaker 1: strange activity, whether it's the paranormal sasquatch or even just
Speaker 1: somebody I don't know standing behind you or getting ready
Speaker 1: to call you. Some people have heightened awareness.
Speaker 3: Well, see, I always feel like there's something here, but
Speaker 3: I can't put my finger on what. But sometimes I
Speaker 3: feel fear and sometimes I don't, So I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know what to think about that one.
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever experience anything that you can correlate
Speaker 1: with dog man or shadow people, strange entities in your house,
Speaker 1: anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we have, like walking around, like say, when
Speaker 2: I shunned that laser that night at that star back here,
Speaker 2: it's kind of dark when we got like the porch
Speaker 2: light and stuff. But there's times that this black mass
Speaker 2: I thought maybe there's been I mean a few more
Speaker 2: than a few times I thought she was beside me. Well,
Speaker 2: she always is, usually because I had to walk her
Speaker 2: or had my cane, but uh, I thought a few
Speaker 2: times what she was beside me, and she wasn't. She
Speaker 2: was already up ahead of me. And there's times of
Speaker 2: black mass like like you just walk right into it
Speaker 2: and it just it stops you.
Speaker 3: And there was one instance that him and now we're
Speaker 3: walking up the driveway and out of nowhere, we both stopped,
Speaker 3: like stopping our track, and the big black mass is
Speaker 3: right in front of us. Yeah, and it scared the
Speaker 3: ship out of boath.
Speaker 2: That was yeah, I mean, you know, and there sounds like, uh,
Speaker 2: we were going in the house one night and I thought,
Speaker 2: I thought she was right behind me and or beside me,
Speaker 2: like holding the door here, and uh no, she hadn't
Speaker 2: even got up the steps ship. And I could feel that,
Speaker 2: you know. And uh, like my dad was, he said
Speaker 2: the other day, he's just sitting their folding clothes down there,
Speaker 2: you know, on the couch, and out out of his
Speaker 2: corner of his eye, he could see something like something
Speaker 2: like this black something manifesting. And uh for my dad
Speaker 2: to sit here and talk about it, you know, he said,
Speaker 2: a couple of incidents, you know, yeah, Yeah, he saw
Speaker 2: her walking in the kitchen and she's not even in
Speaker 2: the house, you know. And the other night, you know,
Speaker 2: he told me about it. He didn't tell no one else.
Speaker 2: He's just like he said, he was laying in bed
Speaker 2: facing the wall. He always you know, laying on the
Speaker 2: left side, and just like something sit on the bed
Speaker 2: and like rolled over and uh, like I said, we're
Speaker 2: not far that Mill Springs battlefield. See, there was over
Speaker 2: one hundred some people that was buried in this hole
Speaker 2: at that time because they they were in a hurry,
Speaker 2: you know. And then there was like one hundred and
Speaker 2: six people on the Confederate one hundred and fifteen on
Speaker 2: the Union that went missing, like either they were shot
Speaker 2: and they walked off and died or you know, we
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: If it's like their entitees roaming around or sashquartch. I
Speaker 3: think they shared the same Like, I don't know how.
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's there's a lot of death that's happening,
Speaker 2: and you like, yeah, and as big as the Dana
Speaker 2: buon As forces, you don't know how many what's going
Speaker 2: on and what it's been all these people missing and
Speaker 2: killed and this you don't know, and you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Just uh, but the presence, you know, you can always
Speaker 3: feel it.
Speaker 2: You can feel it. Man, It's just well, like I said,
Speaker 2: you've been down here, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now where you had your encounter at, where
Speaker 1: you guys have camped at, where you're living at. Now,
Speaker 1: what's the closest cave to those areas? Are there caves nearby?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of caves ibrated one time that
Speaker 3: Kentucky itself is like, uh, there's seventy three percent of
Speaker 3: the state is covered in caves.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And after the way we go where we was
Speaker 2: camping at out there the the Nathan mcclear side of
Speaker 2: the Danny Blue National Force, there's so many caves I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you, you know.
Speaker 3: We and here where we live, there's age caves right
Speaker 3: down here in the haller right here and uh not
Speaker 3: far from us.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm talking about big caves like you
Speaker 2: you got there's one cave right and you gotta climb
Speaker 2: down maybe about twenty foot, get down in it, and
Speaker 2: then when you get in it, it opens up to
Speaker 2: this big cavern.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, you know, it's just and how many
Speaker 2: homes are probably sitting on these uh caves? You know,
Speaker 2: all these falls and stuff like the the Corvette Museum
Speaker 2: in Bowling Green, that the big sinkhole. You know, Wow,
Speaker 2: Ma's Cave, We're not far from it, and uh that place,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, Quarter Cave, all of them. And there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of caves out here where the Middle Spring
Speaker 2: Battlefield happens, right from where the hospital. During that time
Speaker 2: of the war, there a lot of caves.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say there's a connection there with
Speaker 1: cryptid encounters and the paranormal activity. We can't say how,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there is. Just notice the correlation
Speaker 1: with where the experiences take place and where all these caves,
Speaker 1: springs and waterways are aut and you.
Speaker 3: Know they always say where there's water, there's there's big
Speaker 3: and true.
Speaker 2: Where there's a cave, you never know.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, absolutely, Okay, anything else you guys can think of.
Speaker 2: Okay, we so much man, and and you know, for
Speaker 2: you to even respond and stuff, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just it's awesome. And uh, you know, I tell
Speaker 2: everybody about your show and stuff, and have you.
Speaker 3: Ever come back to Kentucky?
Speaker 1: We would like, yeah, I should be going there soon.
Speaker 1: I'm going to a conference in Tennessee on August eighth.
Speaker 1: But I told Jimmy. I was like, we need to
Speaker 1: meet up and do a part.
Speaker 2: We've been the different side of the Daniel Blue next four.
Speaker 2: I don't know really where Jimmy lived, but I know
Speaker 2: like burnside, but this is on the other side, like
Speaker 2: the Laurel County side of Place County, you know. And uh,
Speaker 2: like I said, Daniel Blue Nash for this is the
Speaker 2: Nathan McClure part. And it's you walk your butt off.
Speaker 2: You're not even touching an inch it, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah for sure. And yeah, Jimmy is not too
Speaker 1: far away from you guys, and I'll try to stay
Speaker 1: up there for a few days. I think there's a
Speaker 1: guy named Frank, a guy named Chris, and yeah, Jimmy
Speaker 1: and you guys, and well I'll try to meet up
Speaker 1: with everybody.
Speaker 2: And that each person that would be awesome man or
Speaker 2: bring us together that bring or whatever, you know, because
Speaker 2: we'd love to get into big foot thing and just
Speaker 2: it's just uh, you know, uh, you know, we live
Speaker 2: here with my mom and dad and everything. We all
Speaker 2: take care of each other and stuff, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's just does.
Speaker 3: So we got you know, be nice to have you know,
Speaker 3: like minded people and you know, get to know him
Speaker 3: and where they're at.
Speaker 2: People that are down to earth and uh, pretty good
Speaker 2: up here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, we'll try to put something together. Keep
Speaker 1: my number, you guys have it, and let's keep in
Speaker 1: touch and we'll try to meet up here in the
Speaker 1: near future.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much, Miguel, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: All right, Diane and Rob, you guys did an excellent
Speaker 1: job and I appreciate you guys so much.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Take care and God bless you and your family. Man,
Speaker 2: be careful, be careful.
Speaker 1: I appreciate God bless and be safe.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, Take care of about Bye.