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<v Speaker 1>Oh Canada, Donald Trump rashing, the economy, recession looming.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens next? Watch what happens will happen right here on.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRC, the talkstation. It is eight oh five

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<v Speaker 1>right now, fifty five krsd Talk Station. A very happy

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday to you. I've been looking forward to this all morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I am pleased to welcome to the fifty five KRS

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Show. One of the January sixth defendants spent quite

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<v Speaker 1>some time, quite a bit of time in jail, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's now the executive director of two different groups we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be learning about today, Stand the Gap and

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<v Speaker 1>the Real Jay six. Shane Jenkins, Welcome to the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five KRC Morning Show. It's a real pleasure to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. It's honor to be here with

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<v Speaker 2>you this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I'm bringing your biography. Man, You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a story to tell. You have lived a

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<v Speaker 1>rather transformative life and one of redemption as well. Just

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<v Speaker 1>give my listeners a little bit of background about your

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<v Speaker 1>early childhood and into the teenage years before you well

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<v Speaker 1>woke up and discovered a higher power, if there.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was twelve or thirteen years old, I found

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<v Speaker 2>out I was adopted, and I had a really adverse

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<v Speaker 2>reaction to that. I had what I would call an

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<v Speaker 2>identity crisis at a very young age, and I set

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<v Speaker 2>out to create what I thought the persona of this

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<v Speaker 2>man that I thought Saint Jenkins was a lie, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I said, as an immature young boy, started

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<v Speaker 2>to create what I thought a man was, which was

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<v Speaker 2>an angry, violent people somebody that people feared or respected

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong ways, which led me down a very

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<v Speaker 2>dark path. I turned away from school and sports and

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<v Speaker 2>my family, and you know, I began to look at

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<v Speaker 2>my biological family is like I wondered what was so

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with me that they didn't want me right my

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<v Speaker 2>own mom could throw me away. And so I was

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<v Speaker 2>a very wounded young man turned to the streets, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and ended up in jail by the age of sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>till age nineteen. Watched my friends shoot and kill a

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<v Speaker 2>guy and shoot two other people when I was in

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<v Speaker 2>the car with them, and so I went down in

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<v Speaker 2>Texas as a laws of accessory, as if I had

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<v Speaker 2>full of trigger, and so I did three years for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Got out when I was nineteen. My mom married this

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<v Speaker 2>violent and alcoholic, drug addic, abusive man, and he went

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<v Speaker 2>to jail twice to beat my mom. At the age

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty, I shot shot and killed him in self defense.

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<v Speaker 2>And so here I was sixteen whilst my friends killed

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<v Speaker 2>a guy, a few to other people, and at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of twenty killed my stepfather and self defense was

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<v Speaker 2>acquitted by a grand jury, no charges. But still I

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<v Speaker 2>had in my mind we had the blood of my

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<v Speaker 2>blood and blood of my stepfather's wife on my hands,

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<v Speaker 2>right and so and uh well, and so that let

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<v Speaker 2>me down a very dark path. I had this guilt

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<v Speaker 2>and shame from killing my stepdad, even though it was

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<v Speaker 2>in self defense, even though it was in defense of

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and and myself, and it just really led

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<v Speaker 2>me down a dark path. Three tricks to prison as

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<v Speaker 2>adult and after my adopted mom passed away, my third

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<v Speaker 2>trip to adult prison, and Jesus Christ met me there

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<v Speaker 2>in a prison cell, thank God, and then salvaged me

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<v Speaker 2>from busting the gates of the hill a lot open.

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<v Speaker 1>So, since you you know, achieved this enlightenment and this

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<v Speaker 1>awakening through Christianity obviously changed your life for the better,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've been running a straight and narrow path ever

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<v Speaker 1>since I presume.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, other than the buffer the road that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Called anywhere since we're going to get to that, and that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course is a nice segue to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're in the Capitol.

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What led you to be at the Capitol on January

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<v Speaker 1>sixth ultimately leading to your arrest and imprisonment?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Well, like I had, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>had been in a out of trouble a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>my life criminally, and they twenty nineteen, I got off roll,

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<v Speaker 2>had given my life to Christ in twenty sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>so my politics sprang from my faith. Right I I

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<v Speaker 2>started the value life and all these things and gave

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<v Speaker 2>my life to Christ again in twenty sixteen, and then

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<v Speaker 2>started watching the persecution of President Trump, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>finally wanted to vote in the twenty twenty election. Voted

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<v Speaker 2>early in Texas, then watched the election election night, which

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of questions about the twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty elections. Still do manipulated the election at bess stolen,

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<v Speaker 2>at worse is what I would say. You know. President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump sent out the tweet said come to d C

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<v Speaker 2>joined the Stop of Steel rally will be wild in

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<v Speaker 2>all caps and I had never been to d C,

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<v Speaker 2>never been to a Trump rally. Wanted to go protests

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<v Speaker 2>and request that they send the electors back to the

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<v Speaker 2>states so they could do an investigation in these states

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<v Speaker 2>that were won by very small martins. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>went and got and got drugged up into the crowd

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<v Speaker 2>and to the melee, was watching people be assaulted, was

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<v Speaker 2>assaulted myself, found out Ashley Babbitt was murdered inside the

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<v Speaker 2>Capitol while I was there on the Lower West Airece.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it was a lot, and ultimately you

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<v Speaker 1>were charged. What led the charges I see was eight

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<v Speaker 1>phonies and one misdemeanor. And this in connection with your

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<v Speaker 1>activities in the capitol on January sixth. What did they

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<v Speaker 1>say you did?

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<v Speaker 2>They said that I assaulted police officers, which after watching

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<v Speaker 2>people be assaulted for no reason, being assaulted myself for

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<v Speaker 2>taking no action against police officers, finding out they had

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<v Speaker 2>shot and killed somebody inside the capital, on top of

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like they were stealing an election, covering up the

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<v Speaker 2>steel of an election. I finally lost my tool and

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I did throw sticks what you would say

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<v Speaker 2>like flag sticks, a broken piece of a crutch, a

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<v Speaker 2>death drawer. I did so those items at fully riot geared, armored,

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<v Speaker 2>helmeted field police officers. And I'm accountable for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, and I appreciate you but willingness to omit

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<v Speaker 1>your accountability. But you know, I you have to observe,

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<v Speaker 1>and I observe, and I can't forgive violence against police officers.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why they end up taking it a trial.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, this is really an illustration of selective

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<v Speaker 1>prosecution because a lot of those BLM and anti file

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<v Speaker 1>folks were out in the street throwing bombs, fireworks that

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<v Speaker 1>exploded at police officers, throwing frozen water bottles and other

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<v Speaker 1>articles similar to what you threw at police officers. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recall a mass roundup and prosecution of any of

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<v Speaker 1>those folks. Do you recall them an each chain?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. And I will say this Rose

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<v Speaker 2>another woman died fifteen feet from me on the Lower

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<v Speaker 2>West sair series Roseanne Boiling. And then not only that,

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<v Speaker 2>but when they came and raided my house here in Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>they sent the head of the Joint Terrorism Task Force

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<v Speaker 2>from the FBI to raid my house along with Houston Squat.

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<v Speaker 2>They also labeled me a tier one anti government extremists. Whenever,

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<v Speaker 2>at worst, I threw Dick's got caught up in the

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<v Speaker 2>heat of the moment and threw sticks a police. But

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<v Speaker 2>that they determined that I wanted to overtow the government

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<v Speaker 2>by those actions and was a terrorist, Well, eighty is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Why and based your prior criminal back, which you obviously

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<v Speaker 1>admitted and admit regularly in the context of your transformation

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<v Speaker 1>and your enlightenment, that was not related to political activity,

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<v Speaker 1>was it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all, not at all, So okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go through the trial and of course I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there was a biased jury there given the location

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<v Speaker 1>of the venue. You you're found guilty at trial, so

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<v Speaker 1>they sentence you to what was your sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty six months, which is seven years?

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<v Speaker 1>Seven years? Okay. It seems excessive in the light of

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<v Speaker 1>the modern criminal process we have today where everyone gets

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<v Speaker 1>off for almost murder. That's more more time than people

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<v Speaker 1>that commit murder get And you were in not you

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<v Speaker 1>were in nine prisons as well as what they call

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<v Speaker 1>the DC gulog. How much time did you end up

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<v Speaker 1>spending in prison?

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent forty six and a half months or fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighteen long days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not like you were counting, Shane, well in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four of which were trial. So did they deny you

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<v Speaker 1>a bond hearing? Did they say no bond?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Absolutely, they said no bonds. Now they were they

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<v Speaker 2>were afraid that we were going to have another rally

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<v Speaker 2>and something else was going to happen, and that like

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<v Speaker 2>like I had never been in trouble for going to

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<v Speaker 2>political rally and getting out of control like I was

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<v Speaker 2>Antifa or something. They said, no, you're You're a threat

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<v Speaker 2>to society.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And I'm sure they brought into evidence your criminal

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<v Speaker 1>background absolutely of course unrelated to the to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the protest against the government. All right, So what was

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<v Speaker 1>it like in what we call the DC gulag Shane?

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<v Speaker 2>That was absolutely horrific? I had I had, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to many different vales of Texas and prisons

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Never have I been denied visits with my

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<v Speaker 2>family for two years. Never have I been denied religious

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<v Speaker 2>services for two years. Never have I been denied haircuts

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<v Speaker 2>for a year. Never have I been denied fingernail clippers,

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<v Speaker 2>toenail clippers for a year, which is all things that

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<v Speaker 2>they did at the DC jail, not to mention, send

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<v Speaker 2>officers in to assault people, pepper spray people, will throw

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<v Speaker 2>us in solitary confinement for no reason. And so it

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<v Speaker 2>was a you know, you throw us in this ninety

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<v Speaker 2>seven percent Biden district with well, I call the Rainbow Brigade.

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<v Speaker 2>You had the black lesbian anybody above a regular officer

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<v Speaker 2>grade was a black lesbian woman, and they hated Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and Trump supporters that they would spit on the

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<v Speaker 2>floor at his.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearing his name, and so, okay, it was that that's

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<v Speaker 1>where that treatment comes from. I can understand that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bias within the prison system. Anyhow, Shane Jenkins, you decided

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to do something about it and you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to help out folks in the future while

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<v Speaker 1>you were in jail. Tell my listeners about your sort

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<v Speaker 1>of eared idea behind the Real j six and ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>stand the gap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, we started a nonprofit. Well, we started the

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<v Speaker 2>LLC the Real j six first just to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put out newsletters so merchandise team sure people that want

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<v Speaker 2>to support us, and to get guys' stories off. Then

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<v Speaker 2>as that kind of evolved, we realized that we were

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<v Speaker 2>paying taxes on that money, so we started the nonprofit

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<v Speaker 2>because we also wanted to do justice reform in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, we wanted to help January six ers,

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<v Speaker 2>so we still sell merchandise on the real Day six

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<v Speaker 2>but we are a nonprofit at standindegap dot Foundation and

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<v Speaker 2>we are currently helping January sixth guys. Right now. We're

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<v Speaker 2>working on credit repair and for health care because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were kidnapped by the FBI, so everybody's credit was

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<v Speaker 2>shot all to nothing, bad, all bad, and then health

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<v Speaker 2>care in the prison system is horrific, so we want

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to fund guys going to the doctors,

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<v Speaker 2>going to the dentists. And then we're also working on

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<v Speaker 2>a thing called Mission Memory Maker, where we're fully funding

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<v Speaker 2>a three to five day vacation with the January sixth

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<v Speaker 2>defendant and their family and children so they can get

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<v Speaker 2>away for three to five days, no expense to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Ubers paid for airfare, resorts, pay for meals, everything. Because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the pressure is on the man right now

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<v Speaker 2>for the most law I say man, and there's women too,

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<v Speaker 2>but for the most part of the men to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to work because the wife has been out there

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<v Speaker 2>typically raising the children on a single income where it

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure is on the man to get back to

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<v Speaker 2>work typically, So we want to ease that burden and

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<v Speaker 2>that stress and just pay for their vacation so they

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<v Speaker 2>can get away and just have no worries and love

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<v Speaker 2>on each other and just get back to some type

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's a nice thing for you to do. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been through the ring of yourself and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about. So it's nice that you would step

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I see other component of this is and

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<v Speaker 1>I think about Ashley Babbitt, that that was not a

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<v Speaker 1>justifiable use of deadly force under any circumstances. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a lawyer. I know the law when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to use of deadly force. She did not represent an

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<v Speaker 1>eminent threat to anyone. She was snaking through a window

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<v Speaker 1>that had been broken out and they gunned her down.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think about that, and it's like, how that

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<v Speaker 1>that person has never been held accountable, that person has

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<v Speaker 1>never been hauled into the view of social media, the

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<v Speaker 1>person that shot her and criticized and condemned for killing

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<v Speaker 1>really what amounted to a totally innocent, unarmed woman.

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<v Speaker 2>No absolutely and somebody and shooting my stepdad and self defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very familiar with selfist that self defense of the

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<v Speaker 2>third third party, and so she had no weapons in

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<v Speaker 2>her hand. There was nobody vulnerable and in danger right there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a ambush. She ambushed her coming through that

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<v Speaker 2>window of a veteran of our Air Force wounded in combat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a hor horrible it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, And that's kind of why I emphasized the

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Babbitt story because I think it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most egregious examples of you know, the treatment of people there,

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<v Speaker 1>but also because you've been through down that road based

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<v Speaker 1>on your history and your life. As you just reminded folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to kill your stepfather because of the threat

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<v Speaker 1>that he opposed to you. So you know the law

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<v Speaker 1>too in that realm, and of course the law allowed

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<v Speaker 1>you to escape having to go to prison for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I hate to live with the reality of I

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<v Speaker 1>fully appreciate where you're coming from in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>stress that that has left you with. Emotionally, no one

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<v Speaker 1>would ever want to take the life of another human

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<v Speaker 1>being and could ever forget it after it's done. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the agreed to side in law enforcement. But the

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<v Speaker 1>treatment of people that just engaged in innocuous behavior like

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<v Speaker 1>just strolling through the capital that the idea that they

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<v Speaker 1>were rounded up and subjected to the judicial system is

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<v Speaker 1>really mind boggling to me, particularly given the comparison to

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<v Speaker 1>how the left wing protesters were treated and not bothered

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<v Speaker 1>at all in terms of law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, sir, When to see Tom Tillis yesterday, Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Tom till Is saying that people that trespass on Capitol

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<v Speaker 2>grounds deserved between thirty days and three years in prison

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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely frustrating and ridiculous, especially when you had groups

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<v Speaker 2>of massed individuals taking down ski fencing, removing bike racks

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<v Speaker 2>next to the Decis police, Capitol Police watching them, giving

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<v Speaker 2>them the thumbs up and allowing them to remove those

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<v Speaker 2>barriers and those trespassing signs, which any other day other

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<v Speaker 2>than January sixth would not be considered trespassing to be

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<v Speaker 2>on Capitol grounds. But he's calling for people to be

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<v Speaker 2>in jail and all. It's just so frustrated. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to confirm ed Martin as the DC attorney,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just super, super frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine it's like it's like pointing assault or vinegar

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<v Speaker 1>in your your your current lasting wound. Shane Jenkins. The

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<v Speaker 1>real J six dot com is where you find Shane

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<v Speaker 1>in his organization there, And what's the website for the

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<v Speaker 1>Stand in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Gap Stand in the Gap dot Foundation?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I saw that. I'm used to seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>dot com or a dot org or a dot gov

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I never seen a dot foundation. But there

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<v Speaker 1>you have it, Stand in the Gap dot Foundation and

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners, I really appreciate where you're coming from, Shane,

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<v Speaker 1>and as do I sorry you got run through the wringer,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's good that you're out there explaining

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<v Speaker 1>the injustice that was involved in what they call the

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<v Speaker 1>justice that was served there. And your voice is fully appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the other JA sixers who are similarly

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<v Speaker 1>treated certainly appreciate what you're doing in your efforts on

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<v Speaker 1>their behalf. Shane Jenkins, thank you for spending time with

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<v Speaker 1>my listeners of me today. It's been very enlightening. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have my executi producer put your organization's links on

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<v Speaker 1>my blog page at fifty five krs dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for I hope you'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful day and God bless.

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<v Speaker 1>You, God bless you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a twenty fifty five krs the talk station time

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<v Speaker 1>for you to mention Cover Sincy. You'll be glad to

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with Cover Sincy. Because everybody loves to

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<v Speaker 1>save money. How about getting a better product for less money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all about that, you know me my mantra, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about medical insurance here, and you could be

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<v Speaker 1>in a better place if you just call Cover Sincy

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<v Speaker 1>at every single person individually, and they have access to

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that as opposed to money out of pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you got your major policies in case you

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<v Speaker 1>to save heap loads of money. And you, well, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, covering dollar one coverage, you have that on

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<v Speaker 1>part in life. They help you with Medicare issues as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Brilliant they are, and they work for you, not any

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