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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC, the talkstation. It is eight oh five
Speaker 1: right now, fifty five krsd Talk Station. A very happy
Speaker 1: Wednesday to you. I've been looking forward to this all morning.
Speaker 1: I am pleased to welcome to the fifty five KRS
Speaker 1: Morning Show. One of the January sixth defendants spent quite
Speaker 1: some time, quite a bit of time in jail, and
Speaker 1: he's now the executive director of two different groups we're
Speaker 1: going to be learning about today, Stand the Gap and
Speaker 1: the Real Jay six. Shane Jenkins, Welcome to the fifty
Speaker 1: five KRC Morning Show. It's a real pleasure to have
Speaker 1: you on.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's honor to be here with
Speaker 2: you this morning.
Speaker 1: Well, and I'm bringing your biography. Man, You've got a
Speaker 1: hell of a story to tell. You have lived a
Speaker 1: rather transformative life and one of redemption as well. Just
Speaker 1: give my listeners a little bit of background about your
Speaker 1: early childhood and into the teenage years before you well
Speaker 1: woke up and discovered a higher power, if there.
Speaker 2: When I was twelve or thirteen years old, I found
Speaker 2: out I was adopted, and I had a really adverse
Speaker 2: reaction to that. I had what I would call an
Speaker 2: identity crisis at a very young age, and I set
Speaker 2: out to create what I thought the persona of this
Speaker 2: man that I thought Saint Jenkins was a lie, honestly,
Speaker 2: and so I said, as an immature young boy, started
Speaker 2: to create what I thought a man was, which was
Speaker 2: an angry, violent people somebody that people feared or respected
Speaker 2: in the wrong ways, which led me down a very
Speaker 2: dark path. I turned away from school and sports and
Speaker 2: my family, and you know, I began to look at
Speaker 2: my biological family is like I wondered what was so
Speaker 2: wrong with me that they didn't want me right my
Speaker 2: own mom could throw me away. And so I was
Speaker 2: a very wounded young man turned to the streets, you know,
Speaker 2: and ended up in jail by the age of sixteen
Speaker 2: till age nineteen. Watched my friends shoot and kill a
Speaker 2: guy and shoot two other people when I was in
Speaker 2: the car with them, and so I went down in
Speaker 2: Texas as a laws of accessory, as if I had
Speaker 2: full of trigger, and so I did three years for that.
Speaker 2: Got out when I was nineteen. My mom married this
Speaker 2: violent and alcoholic, drug addic, abusive man, and he went
Speaker 2: to jail twice to beat my mom. At the age
Speaker 2: of twenty, I shot shot and killed him in self defense.
Speaker 2: And so here I was sixteen whilst my friends killed
Speaker 2: a guy, a few to other people, and at the
Speaker 2: age of twenty killed my stepfather and self defense was
Speaker 2: acquitted by a grand jury, no charges. But still I
Speaker 2: had in my mind we had the blood of my
Speaker 2: blood and blood of my stepfather's wife on my hands,
Speaker 2: right and so and uh well, and so that let
Speaker 2: me down a very dark path. I had this guilt
Speaker 2: and shame from killing my stepdad, even though it was
Speaker 2: in self defense, even though it was in defense of
Speaker 2: my mom and and myself, and it just really led
Speaker 2: me down a dark path. Three tricks to prison as
Speaker 2: adult and after my adopted mom passed away, my third
Speaker 2: trip to adult prison, and Jesus Christ met me there
Speaker 2: in a prison cell, thank God, and then salvaged me
Speaker 2: from busting the gates of the hill a lot open.
Speaker 1: So, since you you know, achieved this enlightenment and this
Speaker 1: awakening through Christianity obviously changed your life for the better,
Speaker 1: and you've been running a straight and narrow path ever
Speaker 1: since I presume.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, other than the buffer the road that we.
Speaker 1: Called anywhere since we're going to get to that, and that,
Speaker 1: of course is a nice segue to talk about that.
Speaker 1: So you're in the Capitol.
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: What led you to be at the Capitol on January
Speaker 1: sixth ultimately leading to your arrest and imprisonment?
Speaker 2: All right? Well, like I had, like I said, I
Speaker 2: had been in a out of trouble a lot of
Speaker 2: my life criminally, and they twenty nineteen, I got off roll,
Speaker 2: had given my life to Christ in twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 2: so my politics sprang from my faith. Right I I
Speaker 2: started the value life and all these things and gave
Speaker 2: my life to Christ again in twenty sixteen, and then
Speaker 2: started watching the persecution of President Trump, and so I
Speaker 2: finally wanted to vote in the twenty twenty election. Voted
Speaker 2: early in Texas, then watched the election election night, which
Speaker 2: I had a lot of questions about the twenty and
Speaker 2: twenty elections. Still do manipulated the election at bess stolen,
Speaker 2: at worse is what I would say. You know. President
Speaker 2: Trump sent out the tweet said come to d C
Speaker 2: joined the Stop of Steel rally will be wild in
Speaker 2: all caps and I had never been to d C,
Speaker 2: never been to a Trump rally. Wanted to go protests
Speaker 2: and request that they send the electors back to the
Speaker 2: states so they could do an investigation in these states
Speaker 2: that were won by very small martins. And so I
Speaker 2: went and got and got drugged up into the crowd
Speaker 2: and to the melee, was watching people be assaulted, was
Speaker 2: assaulted myself, found out Ashley Babbitt was murdered inside the
Speaker 2: Capitol while I was there on the Lower West Airece.
Speaker 1: And you know, it was a lot, and ultimately you
Speaker 1: were charged. What led the charges I see was eight
Speaker 1: phonies and one misdemeanor. And this in connection with your
Speaker 1: activities in the capitol on January sixth. What did they
Speaker 1: say you did?
Speaker 2: They said that I assaulted police officers, which after watching
Speaker 2: people be assaulted for no reason, being assaulted myself for
Speaker 2: taking no action against police officers, finding out they had
Speaker 2: shot and killed somebody inside the capital, on top of
Speaker 2: feeling like they were stealing an election, covering up the
Speaker 2: steel of an election. I finally lost my tool and
Speaker 2: I did. I did throw sticks what you would say
Speaker 2: like flag sticks, a broken piece of a crutch, a
Speaker 2: death drawer. I did so those items at fully riot geared, armored,
Speaker 2: helmeted field police officers. And I'm accountable for that.
Speaker 1: I understand, and I appreciate you but willingness to omit
Speaker 1: your accountability. But you know, I you have to observe,
Speaker 1: and I observe, and I can't forgive violence against police officers.
Speaker 1: And this is why they end up taking it a trial.
Speaker 1: But you know, this is really an illustration of selective
Speaker 1: prosecution because a lot of those BLM and anti file
Speaker 1: folks were out in the street throwing bombs, fireworks that
Speaker 1: exploded at police officers, throwing frozen water bottles and other
Speaker 1: articles similar to what you threw at police officers. I
Speaker 1: don't recall a mass roundup and prosecution of any of
Speaker 1: those folks. Do you recall them an each chain?
Speaker 2: No, not at all. And I will say this Rose
Speaker 2: another woman died fifteen feet from me on the Lower
Speaker 2: West sair series Roseanne Boiling. And then not only that,
Speaker 2: but when they came and raided my house here in Houston,
Speaker 2: they sent the head of the Joint Terrorism Task Force
Speaker 2: from the FBI to raid my house along with Houston Squat.
Speaker 2: They also labeled me a tier one anti government extremists. Whenever,
Speaker 2: at worst, I threw Dick's got caught up in the
Speaker 2: heat of the moment and threw sticks a police. But
Speaker 2: that they determined that I wanted to overtow the government
Speaker 2: by those actions and was a terrorist, Well, eighty is
Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Why and based your prior criminal back, which you obviously
Speaker 1: admitted and admit regularly in the context of your transformation
Speaker 1: and your enlightenment, that was not related to political activity,
Speaker 1: was it?
Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all, So okay.
Speaker 1: So you go through the trial and of course I'm
Speaker 1: sure there was a biased jury there given the location
Speaker 1: of the venue. You you're found guilty at trial, so
Speaker 1: they sentence you to what was your sentence.
Speaker 2: Eighty six months, which is seven years?
Speaker 1: Seven years? Okay. It seems excessive in the light of
Speaker 1: the modern criminal process we have today where everyone gets
Speaker 1: off for almost murder. That's more more time than people
Speaker 1: that commit murder get And you were in not you
Speaker 1: were in nine prisons as well as what they call
Speaker 1: the DC gulog. How much time did you end up
Speaker 1: spending in prison?
Speaker 2: I've spent forty six and a half months or fourteen
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen long days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not like you were counting, Shane, well in twenty
Speaker 1: four of which were trial. So did they deny you
Speaker 1: a bond hearing? Did they say no bond?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, they said no bonds. Now they were they
Speaker 2: were afraid that we were going to have another rally
Speaker 2: and something else was going to happen, and that like
Speaker 2: like I had never been in trouble for going to
Speaker 2: political rally and getting out of control like I was
Speaker 2: Antifa or something. They said, no, you're You're a threat
Speaker 2: to society.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I'm sure they brought into evidence your criminal
Speaker 1: background absolutely of course unrelated to the to the to
Speaker 1: the protest against the government. All right, So what was
Speaker 1: it like in what we call the DC gulag Shane?
Speaker 2: That was absolutely horrific? I had I had, Like I said,
Speaker 2: I've been to many different vales of Texas and prisons
Speaker 2: and stuff. Never have I been denied visits with my
Speaker 2: family for two years. Never have I been denied religious
Speaker 2: services for two years. Never have I been denied haircuts
Speaker 2: for a year. Never have I been denied fingernail clippers,
Speaker 2: toenail clippers for a year, which is all things that
Speaker 2: they did at the DC jail, not to mention, send
Speaker 2: officers in to assault people, pepper spray people, will throw
Speaker 2: us in solitary confinement for no reason. And so it
Speaker 2: was a you know, you throw us in this ninety
Speaker 2: seven percent Biden district with well, I call the Rainbow Brigade.
Speaker 2: You had the black lesbian anybody above a regular officer
Speaker 2: grade was a black lesbian woman, and they hated Donald
Speaker 2: Trump and Trump supporters that they would spit on the
Speaker 2: floor at his.
Speaker 1: Hearing his name, and so, okay, it was that that's
Speaker 1: where that treatment comes from. I can understand that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bias within the prison system. Anyhow, Shane Jenkins, you decided
Speaker 1: you were going to do something about it and you
Speaker 1: were going to help out folks in the future while
Speaker 1: you were in jail. Tell my listeners about your sort
Speaker 1: of eared idea behind the Real j six and ultimately
Speaker 1: stand the gap.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, we started a nonprofit. Well, we started the
Speaker 2: LLC the Real j six first just to kind of
Speaker 2: put out newsletters so merchandise team sure people that want
Speaker 2: to support us, and to get guys' stories off. Then
Speaker 2: as that kind of evolved, we realized that we were
Speaker 2: paying taxes on that money, so we started the nonprofit
Speaker 2: because we also wanted to do justice reform in the future.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, we wanted to help January six ers,
Speaker 2: so we still sell merchandise on the real Day six
Speaker 2: but we are a nonprofit at standindegap dot Foundation and
Speaker 2: we are currently helping January sixth guys. Right now. We're
Speaker 2: working on credit repair and for health care because you know,
Speaker 2: we were kidnapped by the FBI, so everybody's credit was
Speaker 2: shot all to nothing, bad, all bad, and then health
Speaker 2: care in the prison system is horrific, so we want
Speaker 2: to be able to fund guys going to the doctors,
Speaker 2: going to the dentists. And then we're also working on
Speaker 2: a thing called Mission Memory Maker, where we're fully funding
Speaker 2: a three to five day vacation with the January sixth
Speaker 2: defendant and their family and children so they can get
Speaker 2: away for three to five days, no expense to them.
Speaker 2: Ubers paid for airfare, resorts, pay for meals, everything. Because
Speaker 2: you know, the pressure is on the man right now
Speaker 2: for the most law I say man, and there's women too,
Speaker 2: but for the most part of the men to get
Speaker 2: back to work because the wife has been out there
Speaker 2: typically raising the children on a single income where it
Speaker 2: was typically two incomes for the last four years, so
Speaker 2: the pressure is on the man to get back to
Speaker 2: work typically, So we want to ease that burden and
Speaker 2: that stress and just pay for their vacation so they
Speaker 2: can get away and just have no worries and love
Speaker 2: on each other and just get back to some type
Speaker 2: of normalcy in their lives.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a nice thing for you to do. You've
Speaker 1: been through the ring of yourself and you know what
Speaker 1: it's all about. So it's nice that you would step
Speaker 1: up to the plate for the other Jay six fos,
Speaker 1: you know. I see other component of this is and
Speaker 1: I think about Ashley Babbitt, that that was not a
Speaker 1: justifiable use of deadly force under any circumstances. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer. I know the law when it comes
Speaker 1: to use of deadly force. She did not represent an
Speaker 1: eminent threat to anyone. She was snaking through a window
Speaker 1: that had been broken out and they gunned her down.
Speaker 1: And I think about that, and it's like, how that
Speaker 1: that person has never been held accountable, that person has
Speaker 1: never been hauled into the view of social media, the
Speaker 1: person that shot her and criticized and condemned for killing
Speaker 1: really what amounted to a totally innocent, unarmed woman.
Speaker 2: No absolutely and somebody and shooting my stepdad and self defense.
Speaker 2: I'm very familiar with selfist that self defense of the
Speaker 2: third third party, and so she had no weapons in
Speaker 2: her hand. There was nobody vulnerable and in danger right there.
Speaker 2: It was a ambush. She ambushed her coming through that
Speaker 2: window of a veteran of our Air Force wounded in combat.
Speaker 2: It's just a hor horrible it is.
Speaker 1: It is, And that's kind of why I emphasized the
Speaker 1: Ashley Babbitt story because I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: most egregious examples of you know, the treatment of people there,
Speaker 1: but also because you've been through down that road based
Speaker 1: on your history and your life. As you just reminded folks,
Speaker 1: you had to kill your stepfather because of the threat
Speaker 1: that he opposed to you. So you know the law
Speaker 1: too in that realm, and of course the law allowed
Speaker 1: you to escape having to go to prison for that.
Speaker 1: Now I hate to live with the reality of I
Speaker 1: fully appreciate where you're coming from in terms of the
Speaker 1: stress that that has left you with. Emotionally, no one
Speaker 1: would ever want to take the life of another human
Speaker 1: being and could ever forget it after it's done. But
Speaker 1: that's the agreed to side in law enforcement. But the
Speaker 1: treatment of people that just engaged in innocuous behavior like
Speaker 1: just strolling through the capital that the idea that they
Speaker 1: were rounded up and subjected to the judicial system is
Speaker 1: really mind boggling to me, particularly given the comparison to
Speaker 1: how the left wing protesters were treated and not bothered
Speaker 1: at all in terms of law enforcement.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, sir, When to see Tom Tillis yesterday, Senator
Speaker 2: Tom till Is saying that people that trespass on Capitol
Speaker 2: grounds deserved between thirty days and three years in prison
Speaker 2: is absolutely frustrating and ridiculous, especially when you had groups
Speaker 2: of massed individuals taking down ski fencing, removing bike racks
Speaker 2: next to the Decis police, Capitol Police watching them, giving
Speaker 2: them the thumbs up and allowing them to remove those
Speaker 2: barriers and those trespassing signs, which any other day other
Speaker 2: than January sixth would not be considered trespassing to be
Speaker 2: on Capitol grounds. But he's calling for people to be
Speaker 2: in jail and all. It's just so frustrated. Then he
Speaker 2: doesn't want to confirm ed Martin as the DC attorney,
Speaker 2: and it's just super, super frustrating.
Speaker 1: I imagine it's like it's like pointing assault or vinegar
Speaker 1: in your your your current lasting wound. Shane Jenkins. The
Speaker 1: real J six dot com is where you find Shane
Speaker 1: in his organization there, And what's the website for the
Speaker 1: Stand in the.
Speaker 2: Gap Stand in the Gap dot Foundation?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I saw that. I'm used to seeing a
Speaker 1: dot com or a dot org or a dot gov
Speaker 1: or something. I never seen a dot foundation. But there
Speaker 1: you have it, Stand in the Gap dot Foundation and
Speaker 1: my listeners, I really appreciate where you're coming from, Shane,
Speaker 1: and as do I sorry you got run through the wringer,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's good that you're out there explaining
Speaker 1: the injustice that was involved in what they call the
Speaker 1: justice that was served there. And your voice is fully appreciated.
Speaker 1: And I know the other JA sixers who are similarly
Speaker 1: treated certainly appreciate what you're doing in your efforts on
Speaker 1: their behalf. Shane Jenkins, thank you for spending time with
Speaker 1: my listeners of me today. It's been very enlightening. And
Speaker 1: I'll have my executi producer put your organization's links on
Speaker 1: my blog page at fifty five krs dot com.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for I hope you'll have a
Speaker 2: wonderful day and God bless.
Speaker 1: You, God bless you.
Speaker 2: Sir.
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