Speaker 1: Is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go right to Nick Cassio NRG Stadium.
Speaker 3: I just say, you know, really proud of this team,
really proud of what we accomplished, Really proud of what
we've done organizationally. A lot of work that's gone into this,
A lot of people are involved in that process. But
you know, we've had the best three year stretch in
the history of the franchise. I mean, certainly, we don't
take that likely lightly. You know, we understand there's still
some work in front of us, and that's a challenge
that lies ahead. The reality is, the more we're playing
games in January, I mean, that's where we want to be.
You like to be playing a few more games in
January and February and ultimately, like that's the goal, that's
what we're all striving for in this league, and ultimately,
like we feel like we're more than capable of being
able to do that. You know, now we're kind of
flipping the page here a little bit and focus on
the twenty six team build. In that process, it'll be
very fluid, as you all know, there's a lot of
different things that take place. But you know, I think
it's important for everybody, and Demiko mentioned it the other day,
just I think from where we started the resolve the
leadership that he displayed. I mean, I think this franchise
in this city is lucky to have the head coach
that we have. I wouldn't want to work with any
other coach, be a partner in what we're.
Speaker 2: Doing, and he makes me better.
Speaker 3: I mean I probably don't make him better, but I
think we've got a great relationship.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of respect for one another.
Speaker 3: We have a lot of the same philosophical beliefs and
what we're trying to do and what we're trying to accomplish,
and we understand there's work to be done. And that's
what kind of this offseason is about, just kind of
looking at everything that we're doing, figuring out ways this
is something we can improve, whether it's individually, whether it's collectively,
whether it's schematically, whether it's personnel wized. But I mean
what the players accomplished this season, I mean some of
the historical relative to the franchise, relative to the league.
I mean, we'll like the second team in the history
of the NFL to start owing three and make the
Divisional round. I mean that says a lot right there. Now,
that doesn't mean that we're satisfied with being there. You know,
there's more work in front of us. But I mean,
I think we're all proud. I'm certainly proud to be
associated with this organization, and you know, we got a
great program. I'm proud of our program. I said this
before the season started. You know, when we met in
the tenth there in August, we felt we had a
good team.
Speaker 2: We had a good team. We have a good team.
Speaker 3: We got a lot of good players coming back, excited
about what's in front of us, excited to get started
on twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Just a couple of injury things. Just because I'm I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I'll be asked about him, and I think the Meek
we got asked about yesterday, so as it pertains a Joe.
So here's what I would say. It was a very
unique situation. I don't think anybody really had any clarity. Honestly,
from the start of the year until now. I'd say
Joe worked very, very hard to try to get himself
ready to play football. It just never manifests itself and
came to fruition. So probably have an opportunity to kind
of see where he is in the off season relative.
Speaker 2: To next year.
Speaker 3: But again, it was very it was as unique a
situation an injury as I've been associated with. And it's
just I don't want to call it a freak thing,
but it's just kind of a freak thing. And Joe
worked really hard, you know, gave it, put his best
foot forward. It just it didn't work out. And then Tank,
I know, I think Demiko got asked about him the
other day. I mean, Tank's doing awesome. He's been in
the building every day. I mean a matter of fact,
he's here today. He's got a great attitude. We would
anticipate him being ready for the start of the offseason program.
So he's great spirits, got a great attitude, good player.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm sure he's excited. He can't wait
to get started.
Speaker 3: Sew him yesterday and he had a big smile on
his face, like basically like all right, you know now
it's time, you know now because we're focused on twenty
twenty six. So just I mean, I'm sure I was
gonna get asked about him, so I figured I would
just you know, address those couple.
Speaker 2: I would say injury. You know, situations? All right, go.
Speaker 4: Ahead, Why is there uncertainty requiring this situation?
Speaker 2: And do you bring that is there for? As far
as what regarding his situation? Who were talking about him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we haven't seen Joanes a little bit, so I
think at some point we'll see him and then we'll
be able to evaluate kind of where he is and
then based on information, we'll kind of see what the
status is moving forward.
Speaker 2: Want to bring him, have him back in the canon?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's under contract, so we'll evaluate the
situation and then you know, we'll see where it goes
from there.
Speaker 5: We're talking with him and he's obviously.
Speaker 6: Amber contrite about the game. He feels bad. As an organization,
what can you do to help him get to where
you hope.
Speaker 5: For what you believe that he can be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think every player of the off season is
about improvement and what are some of the things that
you can do better?
Speaker 2: CJ had a really good season.
Speaker 3: He's done a lot of great Things's done a lot
of great things for his team, a lot of great
things for this organization. Anytime that you passed John Elway
in terms of you know, what you've accomplished in a
short period of time. I mean like you talk about
like Hall of Fame quarterbacks. So CJ played good football
this year. Honestly, it wasn't our best day as a team.
When you go back really and look at the game
from Sunday, KAA turn the ball over and you look
at the divisional round the teams that turn the ball over,
they lost the game.
Speaker 2: Buffalo turn it all over how many times? Four times?
Speaker 3: Rock Purdy the Niners turned it over three times, Caleb
through three interceptions. So in the end, like the most
important and then our ball security. I think this is
a franchise record for at least amount of turnovers. So
we've shown that we can take care of the football.
We did a poor job of it in the game
the other day and ended up costing us. It's still
an opportunity to win the game despite how poorly we'd played,
which I'd say that game was emblematic of kind of
maybe the first three games. When you go back and
look at those first three games of the season, that's
what happened. So I think the reality is is what
can we do better? Individually? And as a player, you
got to look at what are some of the things
you can work on and what are some of the
things that you know you can do to improve your performance.
So again, I think taking care of football for a
quarterback like you're you're and we talked about this, Miko
and I both talked to all the quarterbacks about including CJ.
You know, my more job as quarterbacks is to mitigate risk,
period under story every single play. And if you do that,
you're gonna give your team a pretty good opportunity to win.
Speaker 2: If you don't do that, it's probably gonna be a
little bit harder.
Speaker 3: I mean, Drake put it on the ground the other
day a couple of times, but unfortunately we put it
on a ground more and that's why the result was
the result.
Speaker 7: The last three season.
Speaker 8: Over the last three seasons, you all have done a
lot to build this defensive definished with a number one
overall defense this year. How can you duplicate that type
of success on the offensive side of the ball And
how much of an emphasis will that be in this offseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're focused on building a good team. I mean,
that's what we do every year. So we got a
lot of good players on offense, so I mean we'll
try to put the best team together we can for
the twenty sixth season and go out there and try
to play, you know, winning football. So any end, it's
not about offense or defense or special teams. It's all
three phases. Everybody's involved. We got a lot of good
players really throughout the building. So in the end, it's
about how do you execute with the opportunities that we
have on each Sunday or Monday whenever we play, and
that's what the focus will be.
Speaker 2: Don to go back to Joe Mixon for a minute,
with what you know now about the situation, would you
expect that he'd be able to.
Speaker 9: Play next season?
Speaker 3: It's honestly hard to answer that right now because we
haven't really seen him in a little bit.
Speaker 2: So it's on point.
Speaker 3: We'll see him, we'll probably get a better idea, maybe
do some follow up you know, examinations and get more information.
Once we have more information, I think we'll better be
able to make a better assessment. So what you haven't
seen him so much, all the other injured players were
around the decision. Actually that's not correct. We've had some
players that we're here, we had some players that weren't here.
So every player is our own situation. So at some
point we'll have an opportunity to visit with all of
our players and before the twenty six offseason starts, at
some point we'll have an idea where everybody stands go ahead.
Speaker 10: Later one from obvious slowly last year and went to
Nick Cayley.
Speaker 9: Do you feel validated in that decision?
Speaker 3: And is Nick Kyley or are you comfortable and saying
he's gonna be cal him plays in twenty twenty six. Yeah,
I would anticipate Nick being here next year. You know,
I think Nick learned a lot, you know, first opportunities
to play caller. I'd say offensively probably the last two
to three months of the year played pretty good football
and did a lot of good things. So there was
growth and improvement. There's always areas that we can improve
and get better. And that's what I mean. Demiko mentioned
the other day this first next couple of weeks right
after the season is kind of looking at everything, go
through you know, the coaching staff, go through other aspects
of the staff.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that we have to do? All right?
Speaker 3: Then we'll look at some things schematically, start to go
through the self scout, try to figure out, all right,
what are some of the things that we did well.
It's interesting Dimko started this when he got here. So
the other side of the ball basically goes through and
watches their respective side. So like the defensive coaches will
basically go through and watch an entire offensive season. Offensive
coach will watch the defense, and it's basically just for observations. Hey,
through that lens, what do you see, Hey, what are
some of the things that we did well? What are
some of the things that cause problems?
Speaker 2: What are some of the things you know?
Speaker 3: What you know, it's maybe a little bit less of this,
whether it's schematically, whether it's personnel wise, and there's good communication.
Speaker 2: I think it's a great exercise.
Speaker 3: We actually we didn't do anything like that in New England,
but I think there's some teams that do that. So
what we're trying to do is say, hey, we know
kind of where we are as a team. And I
think sometimes when you're working on one side of the ball,
you maybe see it through one lens. Sometimes when you're
on the opposite side of the ball, you see you
through a different lens. And I'd say the rapport amongst
the staff is really good, so we can communicate honestly
and openly with each other. So it says a lot
and honestly it speaks to who Demiko is. So that's
what we're going through right now. So yeah, i' to
anticipate Nick being here you know, next year, and all
of us are just trying to improve and do we
can to make the team and the organization better.
Speaker 11: Do you think that you guys are doing everything you
can in terms of around c.
Speaker 9: Shape his development?
Speaker 11: Because I know with with young players, that's that's the key,
it's the key time in there right in their career.
Are you looking at what could be done differently to
help him to continue to develop?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, in the end, we're trying to
do what's best for the team. Like, this program's not
about one individual, so we're not building a team based
on one person, one facet of anything. We're trying to
look at the big picture. Yeah, it doesn't affect I
mean how we look at the team. So what do
we need to do to build the best team possible?
Put the best team together and then give ourselves the
opportunity to compete on a weekly basis, which we've certainly
done that. You know, we put ourselves in a good position.
In the end, I'd say our shortcomings come down to execution.
You know, when we go back and look at the
game the other day. Can't sing the ball over five times?
We control that. I'd say the three touchdowns that New
England scored, we didn't play the coverage or the technique
the right way on the calls that we've done countless times.
So in the end, like, we've proven that we could
do it. But in games of that magnitude, the margins
are as small as any and you either make the
play and do the right thing or you don't. So
any end like, and the players know that too. Talking
to some of the players on Monday, they know it,
and when they're articulating it, that's what you want to
see and that's what you want to hear and which
tells you you're on the right track.
Speaker 2: So in the end, it's about the team.
Speaker 3: Let's build a good team and in the end, but
get the best fifty three guys. And like we've talked about,
we talked about in October, we talked about it for
the season. Whoever comes in this building, at some point
they're probably gonna have to play. So and that's where
we try to build as much as depth throughout the
roster because at some point we're gonna need everybody. So
this program's not about one person. It's not about one individual.
It's can we put the best team out there? Because
any end, the team that wins the Super Bowl is
the best team.
Speaker 2: That's the truth.
Speaker 12: The contract extension with CJ a goal of your front
office set all the summer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say, like contractually, you know, we haven't really
talked publicly about anybody's contract. I would say every situation
with any player is kind of case by case, So
we'll handle business how we handle business. So you know,
everybody's in kind of some different categories, so we'll kind
of take a case by case and kind of deal with,
you know, one player at a time.
Speaker 6: What about Will Anderson's junior He expressed a desire to
be here for his entire career.
Speaker 5: On Monday, his body of work. What do you think
about Will?
Speaker 6: Just the hope to obviously keep a good football player
like that as long as you can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, similar answer. I mean we'll kind of take it
case by case. I mean Will is a good player.
I mean we drafted him because he thought he was
a good player, and he's been a good player, and
he's improved each year. So again, I mean, there's never
a linear path on any of this. So you know,
I'm sure you guys would be calling the agents all
the time asking what the hell is going on? But
you know, we'll kind of take it one day at
a time and try to figure out, you know, what
makes the most sense for you for the organization.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah.
Speaker 9: Go from a standpoint of just knowing that you don't
have to get a contract extension of with them, or
would you at least consider looking at their VID your
options to pick up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's some things just business wise I'm
sure we'll look at and discuss. So that's kind of
the off season about so, I mean there's a timing
element that's involved in some of that. So kind of
work through it here, you know, I'm sure throughout the
course of the spring.
Speaker 4: On the first time we.
Speaker 13: Say it earlier off in the side, you guys, you know,
MAT made a lot of changes, some works from data
commune perspective. How do you feel so overall about the
personnel change?
Speaker 2: Just the first part of the question, I'm sorry.
Speaker 13: From offensive person else stand for you that's made a
lot of change in the last office to miss office,
say this season, some works of getting film here was
start helping you overall analyze how some of the moves
that you made over the offensive line for several role
kind of unfolded black the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we feel kind of we got contributions from everybody.
Speaker 3: Probably the big wholesale change or overhaul, you know, was
the offensive line. We talked about that, you know at
different points. We talked about in October as well, you know,
because it kind of coincided with the you know, the
Cam trade and that. But I mean, in going back
to the spring, I mean, Dimiico and I both felt
we would have a pretty competitive group. We felt that
it would be improved. You know, in any end, we
end up with like one player that started who had
I know, Titus played multiple positions, but Titus was really
the only player. The rest of the offensive line was
a number of new players are changing spots. I mean, overall,
I'd say that group certainly improved. I think Cole did
a phenomenal job with that group, him and coach Unzer,
and we ended up kind of like we talked about
that are using everybody, you know, and eventually it kind
of settled down once Tate was able to kind of
settle in the left tackle.
Speaker 2: Tate played really good football.
Speaker 3: I'd say he made some young football player mistakes and
there's some things technique wise that he can certainly improve.
You know, we felt once Trent got healthy that Trent
would go out there and play pretty good football, and
he did. And I'd say, you know, Jake Andrews gave
us a good level of play. You know, he probably
played honestly hurt, probably played on one leg for about
half a year. Just kind of speaks to his toughness.
And Ed, I mean, Ed had a good year. He
probably had his best year. He's a free agent, you know,
kind of to see how that goes. So, I mean, overall,
certainly improved. There's always things that we can do better,
but we got contributions from everybody. You know, Blake had
to go out there and start against the Chargers, played
pretty good football. Me and j Patt, we've always kind
of viewed him as a swing guy, kind of inside,
sort of that sixth seventh offensive lineman. That's kind of
the role that he had. So we have some players
who will be free's in that group. We have some
players under contract for next year, so you know, I'm
sure there'll be some different players in that group next year.
But we also have some guys that you know under
contract that are coming back, so you know, looking forward
to kind of putting that group together. But I mean, overall,
like they were improved. I think the past protection was improved,
certainly was improved relative to last season. So it's always
a combination of factors involved. There's personnelity, scheme, there's a
lot of different things. It's not one particular thing, but
overall that that group played you know, pretty competitive football,
you know, from kind of start to finish.
Speaker 4: Then when to just clarify something you said earlier, because
I'm not sure to you said you anticipate Nick Caley
coming back, has a decision to be made, because Miko said
he take your week to decide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're working through it right now. I mean no,
that's I mean to me when.
Speaker 3: I talk every day, So I don't think I'm like
speaking out of school here. So I mean if I am,
then you know someone will beat my ass.
Speaker 6: So I think with a football injury, as a nation,
can you dispose what happened to Joe is it something
that you guys don't want to disclose it to a
reason why we can't just have what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I would say he didn't do anything off
the field. It wasn't like he was riding like a
snowmobile or anything like that. I'd say it was just
more of a medical condition or situation that just we
never it really didn't improve, maybe as much as everybody
would have hoped. I mean, I'm not trying to like
evade the question. I think that's the reality of the situation.
So like, he didn't jump off a building, like he
wasn't cliff diving or anything like that. He wasn't doing
anything irresponsible. It was just it was a freak thing. Honestly,
I've never seen it. You know, it's just the condition
help that.
Speaker 2: Situation will improve before next time we'll see.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll believe me, I'm not smart enough to
be a doctor, so I mean, I'll leave that up
to the medical experts. And you know, once we going
back to some of their questions, we get a little
bit more clarity, more information, then we'll kind of see
where we are moving forward.
Speaker 11: Earlier, and that you anticipate him in Ringing Cross all
of that. You guys have a superb, you know, performance program.
Do you have any indication that you expects you to
be able to read.
Speaker 2: At a high level?
Speaker 11: I mean, I know you don't know the answers all over,
but what do you know about that?
Speaker 3: It's a good question, TVD. He's worked very hard, you know.
I think our performance group, I mean they do. I mean,
they do a really good job, and I think the
players feel that. So we have the resources available, and
each player is a little bit different, So what's required
for one player might be different for Tank and like
his situation, but I mean I would anticipate him being
available for the off season and then really April May
and you know, June probably better idea. Once you get
on the field, you probably have a better visual representation
of what that looks like. And then if you clear
that hurdle, then training camp is more of like, okay,
what does this actually look like? So knowing Tank, I mean,
Tank's probably cautiously optimistic that he's going to be able
to go out there and you know, be tankd L.
You know, I think everybody's hoping that's the case, but
you never know. I mean, injuries are like, none of
us control injuries and kind of what happens. So but
I mean, everybody's rooting for a tank and he's worked
very hard, he's had a great attitude. So excited to
kind of see him out there moving around. I think
nobody's more excited than he is. So it'd be good
once we actually start moving and getting on a field,
getting on grass and see what that looks like.
Speaker 14: What goes into your process of evaluating a player and
maybe some projection as to what that player can do,
and then how that affects Hey, we have the guy
in the building, maybe we want to go outside the building.
How do you kind of go about that?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 14: Obviously everybody hopes their guy gets better. Sure do you
build in sort of all the different factors of the projection?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one hundred million dollar question, But no, it's
you have to go off of what you've seen to
this point. And I'd say with younger players there certainly
is a projection element, but if they have a body
of work that you've seen, then you have to project
a certain level of improvement and growth that you hope
takes place. It doesn't guarantee anything, so then you look
at your team, what the expectation is you think for
the role. And as we begin to free agency, all right,
supply and demand, what's available? What are our options? Do
we have an option already in place that's comparable to
what else is on the market.
Speaker 2: There's an opportunity to upgrade that. The draft is kind
of its own entity.
Speaker 3: I think our philosophy on the draft is just good,
good football players in here with the right mentality and
the right mindset, regardless of the position that they play.
That's how you know, we approach it philosophically, That's what
de Miko and I believe in, and that's kind of
how we'll go about it. But yeah, you have to
take inventory of what do you have, who's played, who's
under contract?
Speaker 2: All right? What does that look like moving forward?
Speaker 3: I would say, as we say, I think we have
right now fifty five fifty six ish players under contract
for twenty six. It doesn't mean all those players are
going to be here. But if we had to line
up and go play a game tomorrow with those fifty five,
what does that look like? How do we feel about that?
I say, certain positions just from a volume standpoint, excuse
me feel pretty good. Other positions, we just don't have
a lot of supply, So all right, whereas that supply exists,
so where do we go find it? So it's a
good question, but that's kind of a balance, and that's
kind of what we work through here, understanding even whatever
we think it is, and we go to training camp,
something changes, something happens, and there's a player that's gonna
end up on his team in November and December that
we're not even thinking about our talking about. That's part
of the calculus. Like JaMarcus Anger this year, d Moon
and Clark like players like that. And I would say
those are a little bit more need based, like, hey,
we lost a player with our options, you know, in
the spring. It's a little bit more of like there's
a vast array of people available, all right, free agencies
kind of step one.
Speaker 2: All right, what does that look like? All Right? The draft?
Speaker 3: That's step two, all right, and go from there. I mean,
we've got what eight, call it eight picks. I'm sure
that number will change, but let's call it eight draft picks.
You know, how many players we have in a contract
undrafted free agents? So the players can kind of come
from everywhere. So that's kind of how we'll go about it.
I hopefully that I answers your question a little bit.
Speaker 8: But you talk about you talked about the success that
the team has had over the last three years, and
you ought to have been able to do that because
of some of the contracts that you have right now.
But you know, coming up, you're gonna have to just
organization's gonna have to spend a lot of money to.
Speaker 2: Keep some of the talent that it has.
Speaker 8: At what point do you feel like the window of
success is going to start to close.
Speaker 3: It's always open in our book. So I mean, you
can build a team to marry the different ways. So
contracts or contracts, you can fit them. However you need
to fit them. So how do you keep good players?
What does that look like? There's a little bit of
a balance and okay, how are they structured?
Speaker 2: You got to stagger them. I mean look around the league.
Speaker 3: I mean there's plenty of teams that have highly paid players,
like eight to ten of them. I mean the Lions,
like they got a good team. They had a down
year this year, but I mean I got some of
the best players in the league. You know, they found
a way. So there's always a way, Like you got
to be creative, you try to think a little bit ahead.
I mean we've sat here, we've talked how we kind
of look at the team building in two year increment.
It's not like, well, here's the window. It's more of
like just the contracts. What do those look like? Okay,
some contracts are gonna run off, some are gonna come on.
All right, how do you balance that off? So, I mean,
in our book, the window is always open. So we're
gonna try to put together the most competitive team possible
every year. However we do that, you know, we'll fit
the contracts whatever those look like, and you know.
Speaker 2: And go from there. So that's kind of how we
view it.
Speaker 3: Again, I can't speak to other teams in their philosophy,
but you know, our goal is to have a good
team every year, and you know, we'll figure out a way.
Speaker 2: And whoever plays, we didn't really care.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, Tommy Togy I wasn't like a figment
of anybody's imagine, and like two years ago, now he's
one of our best defensive players. So I mean he
got here in the middle of like last year in
October on a practice squad. I mean the guy like
played as well as any defensive tack in the league.
So I mean there's players out there everywhere, Like our
job is to find them, and the contracts are the
contract So I mean that's kind of its own entity,
and you know we'll deal with that accordingly difficult thing.
Speaker 2: You look at the Higgins and doll in the development
they had this season. What y'all most about that? Where
where would you like to miss step forward next season? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean two really good players excited about their future.
I mean, I think Higgs showed he's got a chance
to be a really good player. You know, he's as
productive as any of our you know, offensive skilled players.
Over the last kind of you know, month or two
of the season. It on j Nole, you know, show
where we can do in a return game. Probably gets
more opportunities here offensively. But I mean two good football players.
I mean that receiver room. I mean, if you didn't
do anything, which you know, I'm not saying like we
will or won't, but if you don't.
Speaker 2: Do anything, it's pretty good room. Hig Nole, Nico Hutch.
Speaker 3: Nobody talks about Hutch, but nobody's improved more from the
time he was drafted to where he is now, he's
become one of our most dependable players. Talked about Tank
here a little bit. I mean, Justin Watson's in their
contract made, Kirk's a free agent. We'll see how that goes.
Barrios is a free agent. But I mean it's a
pretty good room. So I feel like, you know, we
can go out there and play good football with that group.
So but great kids, great attitude, good teammates, selfless, no ego,
just go.
Speaker 2: Out there and work and do their job.
Speaker 3: And I think j Nole kind of showed his kind
of versatility, you know, punt returner, you know, kickoff returner.
So and when he played offensively, you know, he made
he made a lot of plays.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure we're gonna see more Jane Old next year.
Up for a requests for the Pokers in their gamble ahead. Yes, sorry,
what do you think.
Speaker 5: About James and JOBB?
Speaker 6: He's done and just him getting that kind of attention.
Speaker 3: Have a lot of respect for James, knowing him a
long time, probably known him as long as anybody in
this building. We hired him as a scouting assistant coming out.
He finished his career at Georgia Tech, hadn't been involved
in scouting, probably didn't have much of an NFL career
ahead of him.
Speaker 2: He knew that, but you.
Speaker 3: Want to get involved in football. So I heard him
a scouting assistant and he's grown. It's done a great job,
great person, great family. You know, works really hard, rely
on him for a lot. He's earned this opportunity, you know,
So I mean credit to him.
Speaker 2: Whatever the Falcons decided to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully he's here helping the Texans, but he's
fortunate enough to have the opportunity.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll do a good job with it. But
you know, I think we're pretty fortunate. We feel like
we got a lot of really good people in this
building across departments, scouting, sports performance, coaching, and I think
that's uh Demiquo and I believe, and just bringing in
good people, you know, teaching them, develop them. Our responsibility
to everybody in the building and our roles to try
to help him as much as possible, let them grow,
you know, that's our kind of fiduciary responsibility to each other.
Speaker 2: So but happy for James.
Speaker 3: Got some other folks that I think are going to
get some opportunities some different looks.
Speaker 2: That's what this time of the year is about.
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys look around the league. I mean
the amount of movement that takes places. I mean, it's
it's mind numbing, honestly. But everybody gets an opportunity. You know,
we all got an opportunity, all got an opportunity in
this room. I was fortunate enough to get an opportunity
back in the day. And then it's really what you
do with it. So you know, happy for James and
we'll kind of see how it goes.
Speaker 15: Feel like, if you feel like you.
Speaker 4: All did enough from a personal wise to.
Speaker 16: Help the offense grow in a way it needed to grow,
or do you think probably some of the unexpected injuries
like Joe makes an injury probably stalled that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not really sure the question.
Speaker 3: I'd say we had one of the best teams in
the league, so I mean we went out there and
competed with every team in the league that we played,
So I mean, I don't I'm I'm not sure what
the what the question is, you know.
Speaker 16: The offense or in to their statistics, I didn't take
it whose jump offensively, and I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: The most important statistic is winning games. So if we
want that's worth.
Speaker 16: But you lost in the division round game, you ultimately
want to get farther. Do you feel like you could
have done more to get to that point or where
there are circumstances that you felt were out of control.
Speaker 3: We had a good enough team to win any game
we played. In the end, we didn't execute well enough.
You can't turner ball over five times in the divisional
playoff round. I mean, taking care of the football is
this single most important stat correlated to winning.
Speaker 2: I mean, look it up. It's the truth.
Speaker 3: If you don't turn the ball over, you enhance your
chances of winning. It's eighty five to ninety. I mean,
so that's the most important stat turnovers, taking care of
the football. Like look around the league. So in the end,
we had a good enough team to beat anybody we
played with every team in the league.
Speaker 2: There's more room in front of.
Speaker 3: Us, and in the end, if we execute better, we'll
still be playing. I mean, I'm not trying to oversimplified,
but that's the truth.
Speaker 5: Going back to.
Speaker 2: Sorry just talking about the contracts.
Speaker 10: When a quarterback's on his rookie deal, we talk about
it's it's probably easier to put a team around him.
How critical is next year not just for CJ to
prove that he can be that guy, but for the
organization to believe that he can be that guy and
not turn the ball over in the divisional round.
Speaker 3: I mean, every year you kind of start from scratch,
so and everybody is focused on individual improvement. So CJ's
played a lot of good football, won a lot of games,
done a lot of great things for this organization, and
I think all of us are excited about the opportunity
in front of us for the twenty six season.
Speaker 2: It's a year to year league. I mean that's where folks.
Speaker 3: So we're focused on a twenty twenty six season, trying
to put the best team together and hopefully put ourselves
in a position that we can go out there and
play pretty good football and you know, win a bunch
of games.
Speaker 2: So that's what the focus. That's where our focus.
Speaker 9: Is from a standpoint, maybe more from you look at
Revajordan a few years ago, you said an extension that
way you could get him in a medical redshirt. You're
basically what he was utter an entry tank could be
up for an extension next year is that that could
be in the works just to happen for one year
to where you missed the season, but you have it
for four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Again, it's kind of case by case, so you kind
of look at everything, try to figure out, all right,
what makes the most sense for the organization. The players
are part of it, but it's kind of like piece
of the puzzle. You got all these puzzle pieces, how
do you fit them all together? Coming back to kind
of Starge's earlier question. So we'll look at everything and
just try to figure out, like how do we line
the deck chairs, and then we'll be prepared. I think
the one thing that we've shown is our ability to
kind of pivot and adjust and kind of handle and adapt.
I think that's one of the hallmarks of you know,
this organization, you know, Demiko and.
Speaker 2: I like philosophically, like that's how we view things, so.
Speaker 3: You never get too caught up and doing one thing
is a particular way, you know. I think the more
you're open minded and kind of maintain some level of flexibility, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it just gives you more optionality.
Speaker 3: So you know, again, we'll look at everything and it's
always case by case and ultimately we'll feel what we do,
you know, make the most sense by everybody involved.
Speaker 2: That investment in Joe.
Speaker 17: Let's stepine and do you think I guess it was
more fact break with what you got for that investment in.
Speaker 2: Are there any lessons I guess you take hooping forward
from that.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Look, good players helped our team, I'd say, and I've
said this. You know, every decision, every player you bring
in maybe doesn't go the way that you think or
hope it's going to go.
Speaker 2: Some of it's in your control, some of it's not.
Speaker 3: So all we can do is look at it, okay,
deal with the reality and just press forward. So trying
not to get too caught up in one particular thing.
I think Demiko and I kind of look at things
that way. So that's probably why we get along so well.
Speaker 9: How do you think CJ handled all the hurdles this
year slow start, his own concussion.
Speaker 3: The close season, Yeah, I think, and he said this,
I mean it was hard, you know, and I think
anytime that you deal with difficult situations adversity, it's just
in the end, you're the only one that can handle
and respond to it. And you know, our jobs and
organizations to support our players and give them a resources
that they need and feel like they have a good
environment to come to work. Look, I'd say players are
come in this building, love being here. They know we're about,
they know what Tomiko is about, they know what I'm about.
So I mean, in the end, we're just trying to
win football games with the right people. And you know,
understand this league's hard. I mean it's really hard. I
mean we're all gonna have to deal with stuff. It's
not easy. But you know, honestly, that's where you kind
of get the joy at least I do, is just
in the fight, you know, and just nothing's easy, everything's earned.
So I mean that's the beauty of everybody's got the
same opportunity. I mean all thirty two teams once whenever
Super Bowl's played, the gonna have the same opportunity.
Speaker 2: They are.
Speaker 3: Division I mean has become a really competitive division. I
mean I think you know I've said this. You know,
Jacksonville think he's done an awesome job. I mean, Tony,
you know, James, Liam did a great job this year.
Speaker 2: They showed it.
Speaker 3: I Mean, I think Tennessee is gonna be much improved.
I think coach styles the hell of a coach, you know,
Coach Psyching and the Colts. I mean they've shown a
year in a year out they can compete with anybody.
So I mean we're gonna have a work cut out
for us in the division. But that's why this league,
when you go one through the thirty two, the gap
between one and thirty two, it's not as big as
the numbers suggest.
Speaker 2: So I mean, all of us, you gotta embrace it.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta embrace it, and it's okay to fail,
but you know, I gotta pick yourself back up and you.
Speaker 2: Know, try to come up with some answers and solutions.
So that's how we approach it.
Speaker 11: Execution that how that's kind of the key, right yep.
As a term shake, how do you help? I mean
you collectively, it's before there weren't live that all the players,
How do you get to where the execution is is stated?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just making sure I think we do because again,
we turn the ball over at least amount of franchise history.
So it's just every detail, every practice, every day, every meeting,
it's all important. So and I think as a player,
any end, it's a player's game, right, and the players
take ownership and you just have to have you have
to have a heightened awareness that any little small thing
like playing the wrong technique. Okay, you're leverage on this
play supposed to be inside leverage. Okay, you've done it
ninety times. Why the ninety first time do you play
with the wrong leverage?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: It's just this league is about discipline, it's about consistency,
and it's about doing it every single snap, every single play.
And I would say our responsibility is to make sure
that we bring the players in that A understand and
B have the mental fortitude to do it because it's
not easy. Going back to the earlier question, it's not easy,
but it takes work and it takes communication, and that's
any end what makes a team good.
Speaker 2: So everybody's got good players.
Speaker 3: Those I would say, small details, those finer things, those
are the things if you do them right. I mean, look,
there's a reason we won ten games over three months
or whatever it was because we were doing more of
those things. When there's gaps against good teams, the gat
the margins are smaller, So we're trying to make the
improvements on the margins and just make sure like every
single day. And again, I mean like we'll probably be
playing like four hundred games here at some point, So
it's got the long season. Every week matters, Every practice matters,
every meeting matters, every walkthrough matters. And Dimiko talks to
the team about this all the time, and I'd say
the majority of the time we do a really damn
good job of that, right, But when there's gaps, then
you got to go back and look and say, all right,
did I really do what I was supposed to do
or did I kind of you know? And in the end,
that's player accountability and ownership.
Speaker 14: If you're assessing a player, how do you reconcile body
of work? Maybe success from a couple of years ago
versus now? Is does recent performance matter more than some
of the previous performances.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be careful of taking just like a
snapshot of like, well, here's what it is. You got
to look at the entire body of workups I would say, like,
because this actually get into the draft little bit, okay,
lokod player's body of work. Players started forty five fifty games.
You're looking at their body of work as opposed to
well they did this in this game, they did this
in that game, Okay, over the totality of it, what
does it look like? And then you got to be
able to say, here's what we think it's going to be.
Speaker 18: Right.
Speaker 3: And with NFL players, some players have more body of
work than others, right, so you're looking at the whole
body of work, and if they've shown the ability to
do things at a certain level, then it means it's
in there, right, and then it's like, all right, what
else can you do? And and every year you're starting
from scratch, right, So I think each player looks at
and hey, I'm gonna focus on this.
Speaker 2: This is off season.
Speaker 3: Whatever your list is, right, and we're gonna have kind
of a checklist for the players and they come to building,
Hey these three or four things, here's what we're looking
for relative to improvement. And then you can look at
the end of the year, all right, did they improve that?
Speaker 2: Did they not?
Speaker 3: So it's ongoing, it's very fluid. So again you look,
you have to look at everything. You just can't look
at one particular play, one particular game, one particular situation.
Speaker 2: Thoughts arch Gutsar, like.
Speaker 8: Can you just talk about the job that Demko did
this year, overcoming that ball and three starting, and even
at a point it was three and five to be
able to coach this team into you know, another divisional
round game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was phenomenal. I mean, like he
was incredible.
Speaker 3: I mean I would say his just consistency, how steadfast
he was, and being able to get the issues fixed
and addressed and honestly not really losing sleep or losing
his mind. Here's what I would say too. Dimiko is
one of the best human beings I've ever been around
in my life. He's also one of the most competitive
individuals that I've been around, and which is why I
think like we resonate with one another, because I think
we're both like very competitive, you know. I think he's
so genuine, so sincere. He treats everybody the right way.
I mean, I mean I'm fortunate to be around him
on a day to day basis. I think the way
he handled the team was incredible. I think he did
as good as his coaching job as any coach in
the league this year. I mean, he's not gonna win
Coach of the Year, but I mean you could make
a very coaching argument that he should be the coach
of the year based on what we did with his
team from where we started to how he finished. And
everything starts with everything starts to the head coach. And
I think he's grown. You mean you can, he can,
you can ask him. But he's grown from the time
that he started on now you know he obviously the
play calling passed that off to coach Burke. I mean,
there's no ego with him at all, Like he just
wants what's best for the team and what's best for
this organization period in the story. And I can't say
enough great things about him, the job that he's done.
Grateful for the opportunity to work with an on a
day to day basis and looking forward to working with him.
Speaker 2: I'm building the twenty sixteen Jonathan sam Louis. That's like
six last last questions.
Speaker 5: But this this may be where Coldy was gone.
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously CJ.
Speaker 16: Stroud had an improved year up until that last couple
of games. You don't take and this is me going
on he answer, you don't take just what happened in
the biggest games and use that and how you might
approach you know, negotiates the extensions later on down the line.
Speaker 2: Or is that's all a part of it?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, if we want to go a game by game,
like we don't win a Kansas City game without c J. Stroud.
I mean so again, like that's one game. All right. Look,
he'll be the first to tell you he didn't play
well on Sunday. All right. I'm not gonna sit here
and tell you you play well either, Like he knows that.
So in the end, all right, you got to learn
from it. What can we do better? All right?
Speaker 3: And then we're moving forward, all right. I mean, see
you look at his body of work. This guy's been
a damn good quarterback in this league for three years.
Speaker 2: I mean it's the truth.
Speaker 3: So again, you wanted to look at everything in totality,
and then every player will look at their situation and
it's always case by case.
Speaker 9: So with the tight end physician, I was wondering if
I can have the days on have Dalton Nick Kate
are doing from Saturday? And also kind of how you
evaluated that position looking for partable with Dallen going into
his last.
Speaker 2: Years let the past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, both of those guys. I mean, Dalton's gonna
be okay. I mean it was just kind of a calf.
I mean, I don't think it's anything major.
Speaker 19: Kate.
Speaker 3: I think he avoided serious injury. Think he's gonna be okay.
So I mean, probably gonna be ready for the offseason.
Programs probably were not as bad as it looked. It
looked pretty bad, right, I think he's gonna be okay. Overall,
got pretty good production from that group. I mean, Dalton
had a really good season. I mean he broke the
franchise record for career receptions by a tight end. I mean,
the guy who record he broke was a damn good player.
Like you guys know him very well. I mean we
played against od multiple times when I was in New England.
So min Dalton had a really good year. He was healthy,
you know, he why Franklin wentn't healthy last year. You know,
he's but got really good production from them. You know,
I think we were playing on Brevin kind of being
a big part of it, you know, unfortunately, like he
went down there a little bit. But you know, Kate
kind of showed his versatility, you know, Harrison were able
to kind of give us some snaps there a little bit.
So overall it's a pretty solid group. So I mean,
if there's an opportunity for us to improve it. You know,
certainly look at it, you know, relative to what are
op are. But overall it's a good group, works hard,
very professional. You know, Adulton had a really good year
and you know, very dependable, very instinctive, very smart player.
Speaker 13: The actual last question, they're kind of follow up on
Kim's and John's questioning about the execution and vision around
We know that you know, every guy execute them the better.
Speaker 2: What could you guys do look a little bit better
to I.
Speaker 5: Guess add more?
Speaker 20: You guys just have more overall five parts about because
so far since MECO, you guys have the fun's been here.
There's round you got an average refer years, I have
the points of office and that's just I just kind
of too in those rounds. What can you guys to
improve just the overall talent that is on offense to.
Speaker 2: Windows in those bounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the goal is the same, try to
put together a good team and get players in the
building that if even go out there and play winning
football with you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's a combination of things. You know, make sure
we got enough players.
Speaker 3: You know, we're doing some things schematically or there's some
things that have popped up in those games. So again,
you look at those games, you look at all their
games as well. Look around the league. What are some
teams doing, What are some things you might be able
to incorporate. So again, I mean, offense has really never
been I mean, Tamiko and I've never sat in her
office and said, like, well, offense is a concern, Like
what do we got to do? Like, you know, you
got to play better. There's some things that we can
do better. So try to build a good team. Try
to get good players in here with the right mentality,
in the right mindset. I mean, like, I guess Nicole
Collins isn't good enough player, So I mean, maybe we
can find a player better Nicle Collins.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: So well, try to do the best we can.
Speaker 3: Try to bring good players in this building, you know,
and try to put together a good team that gives
us a chance to compete, you know, on a neat Sunday.
Speaker 12: All right, thanks, Wow, that's good stuff, actually good stuff,
A lot to chew all.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm mad he's Ross.
Speaker 15: It is.
Speaker 12: It is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. That might
have been our best forty minutes of radio programming all week,
a lot to Frankly chew on right, Joe Mixon, Nick Kayley,
c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud. Those are kind of the real heavy points of it.
Speaker 12: And we'll get to all that plus the rockets of
the comfort behind win Big twelve schedules out. We got
a lot to get to today. We want you to
be a part of the show. Ross, I will be
a part of the show and we're gonna check it
in Denver letter today too. Okay, wonderful. Yeah, but we're
gonna address Joe makes we come back and whether or
not I owe you coffee and a lemon loaf ten
forty three on Sports Talk seven UTI.
Speaker 2: It is Matt Ross and we.
Speaker 12: Haven't said much because that press converce. And I'll I'll
give Nick credit because we have to give credit where
credits due. Every question answered asked, maybe did not get
as much information as you want on some things initial
thoughts very much a Nick Hayley guy, very much a c. J.
Stroud guy, and I wouldn't expect him to throw him
under the bus, but he he was is effusive, Is
that right?
Speaker 2: In his praise and praise?
Speaker 18: Sure?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 12: And almost almost got away with not telling the world
what happened to Nick to a Joe Mixon, although he
didn't provide any specifics, thedn't okay, So you want to
know what it really sounds like to me now that
he said he didn't talk about it wasn't going on
some cliff diving, cliff diving or something like that, anything irresponsible. Now,
if there's a police report that eventually comes out that
says otherwise, and we'll just call Nick the greatest liar
of all time. I mean, I might be the greatest
liar right now, but Nick would take us about Nick.
Nick would surpass you.
Speaker 2: Okay. So after hearing that.
Speaker 12: A botched surgery is in somebody, I think Paedro on
Twitter said the exact same thing, that you have to
be very careful ross in public talking about malpractice, and
that sounded very malpracticing. If it's just such a term practicing, sure,
I'm going with it. Okay, that so I'm probably gonna
wind up own you a loaf. I'm not gonna I
was gonna go with an omend class song. Okay, Fine,
I think we're gonna need to make a decision. Probably
by the time the Super Bowl is over, Okay, how
about this if okay, we can do that or we
can't even wait, I don't care. Yeah, it's only about
ten bucks. And then if you exactly is a very
small coffee back, right, and then if I win or
if you pay and then it comes out that you
were right, I'll pay double. So I'll pay back to
get us even and I'll pay you one. That seems fair.
That sounds fair to the Super Bowl. Yes, that's why
all the.
Speaker 2: Media gets there.
Speaker 12: And sometimes it'll be some TMZ stories that will come
out and and if you got there's lose lips, TMZ
will find them.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 12: TMZ Sports should be on top of this already. Yeah,
I could be shot myself in the foot. I feel
like we would have heard about it now, doesn't once
the seasons right right, right right.
Speaker 2: But again, if you're trying to.
Speaker 12: You know, there was a class I took in college
called oral interpretation, okay, and if you're trying to interpret it,
it was I've got to try to give you a
little bit of an information, but I need to probably
protect and a hip is the word I would use
at the laws. But hip, all right, dusty, Okay, I know,
I know I was going with that. It's again now
my money, the favorite on the board is a botch
medical procedure.
Speaker 2: Okay, it could be both.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was just a simple flesh wound to the
foot and then all of a sudden they removed two
of his toes. Yeah, he's done to three toes. But
I'll say this, he didn't sound like he was confirmed
coming back. It also sounds like it was confirmed coming
back to Tank Dell wasn't gonna be one hundred percent ready.
And I've told you this before. The best Tank Dell
you ever saw was it was already in the field.
You're not getting anything close to that coming back. And
I like Tank Dell University of Houston.
Speaker 2: Guy, I love him.
Speaker 12: But I'm not an orthopedist. But that seems like a
fair assumption. Yeah, it's it was just too much injuries
and touch a short period of time. Yeah, when it
takes five minutes to list all the ligaments you tore
on your knee, that's not a good sign. Yeah, anything
else that you caught you, uh, it tickled your fancy
if you will, No, I don't. I mean he was
backing Nick Kayley, as you said, But he didn't like confirm.
It was interesting when he said we're still evaluating, like
didn't say that he was going to be back. I
took it as well. First of all, Mike McDaniel's now
here's the here's stranging. If you didn't see this, DGEs,
he's now the Chargers, but he is still open for
a couple of head coaching jobs. So at the worst,
the new offensive coordinator will be Mike McDaniel in Los Angeles. Hmmm,
where's Joe Brady could be resigned by Buffalo? Two great tackles,
Justin Herbert de Good receiver receivers and Omarion Hampton.
Speaker 2: Hmm. But I'll say this, Yeah, they're going to be
in a good spot.
Speaker 12: I do have one criticism of Nick, and it's kind
of of the position if we took the you know
what a temple is when you have like a blank
page and you fill in this particular is based on
what you're doing. If there is a template for what
Nick has done the last three years and these end
of season press conferences is you know, we won some games,
we want to get better, we need to do some things.
I feel like I've heard some of the same rhetoric
after they lost last year in the divisional playoff in
Kansas City. The rhetoric hasn't changed too much. We are good,
We've won a bunch of games in the last three years.
I don't think Texans fans wanted to hear that they
did win a lot of games. They have won two
AFC's and they've won a wild card spot. They did
win a road playoff game, So there was some tangible
changes from year to year to year. But the end
result is you're still looking at a franchise that has
been around since two thousand and two that has never
tasted an AFC Championship game, and I think that bugs
a large mart up portion of the Houston Textan fan base.
So you to go to the we're gonna go in
there and start prepping for twenty six to get past it.
I don't know if he could gone in and say
we are we are in a sense of urgency. We've
got to get past this. Necessarily doing this for a
political thing, but just to show that complacency isn't a
part of what's going on right now in energy. Yeah,
I mean, I guess if you want to be pounding
the table and saying this is unacceptable.
Speaker 2: Job is online.
Speaker 12: I think you could have gone with and again, this
is easy for us to do because we we analyze things.
You could have easily said, look, we got to the
Visional playoffs, we've got to go further.
Speaker 2: We and again it's it's captain.
Speaker 12: Obvious on that, but it's also sometimes you have sometimes
the fan base has to hear that. But his statement
was true. We could they could have beaten anyone. But
when you turn the ball over five times, you're not
gonna you're not gonna beat You're not even gonna beat
the Raiders. If you turn the ball over five times,
you just can't do doubt. Yeah, So overall I thought
it was for I mean, for word salad, not as
bad as it usually is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he can get you in the words. So
he can get you in a caesar, he gets you.
Speaker 12: He can get you in a like a apple salad
with with walnuts and really yeah, okay, with a wedge
with blue cheese, sheese crumbles, red onion of vinigrette.
Speaker 2: You'll keep you all that stuff. Well, that was good.
I'm glad we carried it.
Speaker 12: I was really starting to get irritated that we're gonna
get some more clarity in the joe mix and stuff.
Was asked about it a little bit more. So, who
do you owe lunch to? It's probably Aaron Wilson. So, Aaron,
if you're listening in the car right now, we I
owe you Big City Wings. Okay, because he saw that
on Twitter earlier today, I said that, Hey, the person
that gets the most details out of the joe mixing situation,
I'm buying them lunch. So congratulations Aaron Wilson, You win,
all right. Second hour The Matt Thomas Show with Ross continues. Yes,
in one half hour, we're gonna tells people to shut
their ball masses up.
Speaker 2: You ready for that?
Speaker 12: Yes, we're gonna have a live in studio guest during
shut your ball mass up.
Speaker 2: We are, yes, we are.
Speaker 12: Oh, they're coming after me? Nope, we're going after them.
Ooh okay, but first, a word for cynogenic is.
Speaker 2: The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
Speaker 12: Eleven o three on Sports Talk seven. Honty Man in
Ross with you today until two o'clock. We have a
shut your bab mass up at eleven thirty today. Nobody
got time for that. Well, have a live version of
that today if the person that comes in studio remembers
to do so. Uh, I'm intrigued. You really don't know
who it is our clue.
Speaker 15: I like that.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you look at my Twitter account. Okay, you
probably haven't muted.
Speaker 12: What's your name? Don't look at it? Okay, now, don't
look see you're welcome. I'm trying to help the show.
Speaker 2: I put in.
Speaker 12: I put that the person coming in eleven thirty today,
it's going to be getting to shut you mess up?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 12: Uh seven one three two seven ninety seven one three
two one two five seven nine zero headlines the day
really quick? You just said the nic Cassera pres Comerenson. Well,
I'm sure we'll mix in some of the clips throughout
the course of the show. And we've got that. We've
got the rockets last night, babe, what a game. Nice
comeback win over the hated I ten rivals. By the way,
I noted hated Victor women, Yama fan Adam Clinton wanting
his flowers today. Victor last night five of twenty one,
he had fourteen points, ten rebounds, did not block a shot,
which is stunning. Is that's why it wakes into one
of those Rockets were down sixteen. It was what was
the biggest deficit? Do you remember I'm talking about like
the score and where it was the exact score, I
don't remember. Rockets came back and put together a twenty
nine spot in the fourth quarter. The Spurs only scored fourteen.
The Rockets win the game, won eleven to one o
six and we won the game despite a twenty two
minute delay for a rim being broken by next to Fancastle.
What next, They're gonna be squirrels loose on of the court? Now,
that was nobody's fault. Last well, it was the Fun's fault.
It was Steffon Castle. Apparently Wimby was throwing down dunks
and I think they were saying somebody else was thrown
down a bunch of crazy dunks played Dreamy So he's
a weirdo too, Yeah, he was true. Did you see
Sohn try to climb up the ladder to help fix
them up? The fact he was playing one on one
drills with Jayshon Tan on the other side of the floor. Yeah,
good win for that. We have the Big twelve schedules announced.
The University of Houston already participated finishing a perfect twelve
to zero in the season. Very excited about that. Okay,
So they were picked thirteenth last year. Yes, they exceeded
those expectations, so that's good. Yes, Oh where did they
picked this year? We have a tougher schedule this year. Okay,
So you actually got a place and you can't play
a bunch of slappies like last year. I don't know
if it's slappies, but the road schedule is much more
difficult than this year. So you're going to Lubbock to
go get batteries in your orbital bone.
Speaker 2: Oh look at you doing that? Oh, come on, nice,
not nice at all.
Speaker 12: Going to West Virginia Mountain Mama, going to Utah, going
to Colorado, a lot of travel. M at Georgia Southern
for some reason, that was scheduled before anybody. College football
win totals out yet at whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Take the over.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you say that every year. That's true. That is
fair on them. You're right about half the time. We
have NFL owner basically guaranteeing an eighteen game schedule coming up.
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that as well.
Speaker 12: Okay, And I gotta find out if there was something
that Cole Thompson said this morning.
Speaker 5: It was true.
Speaker 12: Now, sometimes you get information on your show and you
trust the social media streets out there, and sometimes they
are really good, and sometimes they let you down. Yes,
he had a wacky story today that Fernando Mendoza, who
is the perceived number one overall selection of the coming draft,
is going to skip the combine because he's an internship
at a bit at a big time fortune five hundred company.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just thought that was very peculiar.
Speaker 12: Now, whether that's a true story or not, those you know,
well quarterbacks do skip the combine, at least they don't
throw right for the most part. He's gotta be uber
confident that he's the number one pick. Yeah, hey, shut
your bum messes up. Any other way, well, it's again
it's vague, but number two is the Jets, So it's
like you're kind of screwed either way. I mean, again,
you're the best player in the college draft. You're probably
gonna go to one of the worst places. You're normally
not ending up with the Patriots. Yeah, he's not setting
up his Green Bay gear. So we gotta find out
if it's a true story not. And again, I I
was listening because I like to listen to the First
and Tent show. Okay, good, it's good, so I want
to do it.
Speaker 2: Catch it. You don't catch any of the show.
Speaker 12: I mean, my commute is like literally four minutes to
listen to a team Yesterday and the way home. No,
I because I don't normally listen to sports radio when
I'm not on it. I want to keep a fresh mind. Matt,
you know, I want to borrow and steal from anyone.
I want to use my own takes. I don't want
anything else to seep into my brain, certainly not from
Adam Clinton, well Cole Thompson. I do hate listen. I
don't hate listen our shows. Okay, good, but I do
do so fair amount of okay, all right? Anything else
you wanted to take away before gets the phones on
the Nick Cassero stuff, I don't think so a great
three year run. Didn't then talk about a fifth year
ex option yet Dick speak very glowingly of will Anderson
because he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to negotiations
for the quotes to show up that he's the best.
If he didn't want to go, he's I think that
was smart and calculated. Actually, I think if he goes
out in this press conference, he said, yeah, we think
he's the best edge rusher in the league.
Speaker 2: That's gonna show up from his Agent's gonna clip that
and say, oh, remember when you said this, He's gonna
and Will Anderson's gonna have a shoot. It's gonna say
uh Nick, Right.
Speaker 12: So my first reaction was like, oh, he just calls
me a good player, and he's a good player, and
we drafted a good player, so he is a good player.
Like I think maybe he's kind of making sure keep
it a little low key because they do use the
GMS and ownership's words against them. It's funny because when
iHeartRadio talks about me, they go, yeah, he's he's on
our air.
Speaker 5: He's fine.
Speaker 12: That's so those are internal documents. Man, Oh damn, you
don't want to be in the ieart radio intern you're
saying stay off the radar, all right, Biscuit, Cameron and
Roger are all there. Rogier feels like he's being blacklisted
from what he feels blacklisted or is somebody else black.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.
Speaker 12: I think he thinks we don't take his call. We're
gonna take this call right this second right now, Roger. Roger,
first of all, you you would never be blacklisted, but
we hear you on every show all week long. You're
not blacklisted.
Speaker 2: You know this right, Well, it's good.
Speaker 21: But I thought I was brad listed.
Speaker 2: I say blacklist, brad listed.
Speaker 12: Oh brad No, you're not brad listed or blacklisted for
that many You're neither one. What's on your mind, Roger?
I thought we were, Hey McRib for life. It is
America Sandwich, sit up, back off the media.
Speaker 21: That's my nice stattue if I get one. Okay, So
on yesterday's game, I think I have a way to
uh to at least ease the pain whenever the the
Rockets right and his teeth lose.
Speaker 19: I think I have a way to prevent that.
Speaker 21: So I didn't do it for the Texans because I
thought we really had a real chance to win that
game at the start of the beginning the Rockets gam
I just I just feel like we have no chances
to them and the okay, see thunder, I just I
just feel that way because of obviously we had one
and it just doesn't look good. Uh So yesterday we
got my group texts, my boys, and we're you know,
we're texting away, and you know, I'm like, here we
go them duncan Era all over again. Get ready for it,
you know. And I was like, you know, just to
Skips gonna be the same thing over and over. We
had a great team, but we've got a you know,
we got a window opportunity with Kevin Durant, same way
the Texans have a defense. You know that been rasing
for me two three years. We gotta do something about it.
I'm hoping you're bitching in the plating and wanting the moaning.
Then it comes the fourth quarter and the chipperd goes off.
I'm like, oh my god, I gotta start doing this.
But the thing is, I have to do it with
like compassion that's got to really mean it. If I
do it against like a team that where I'm just
trying to do it, it's not gonna work. So the
words and the words of Paul Wood, like you know,
it works sixty percent of the time or whatever. So yeah,
I was just that was just an awesome game. Read
Shepherd to really, maybe Odoka is using them all. Maybe
he just use him as a shooter and and and
and a two guard instead of just using him try
to even to the point guards we get that noise
and that's all I got. Man, it was a great game.
Speaker 2: Great calls usually thank you friend, I appreciate you ver much.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 12: You know, it's funny because you took a Reed Shepherd
hate call on the Calling show last night.
Speaker 2: He scored twenty one points save They're Bacon in the
fourth and the first call out of the gates was like, yeah,
I don't know about this Red Shepherd guy.
Speaker 12: Is a little peculiar. That was odd, uh, reach, folks.
Reed Shepherd has gone from four points a game to
like thirteen. He's making a massive and quite frankly unexpected leap.
He went from shooting thirty four percent from three to
forty one percent from three. He's doing great if we're
expecting him to all of a sudden, he's went from
one us it's a three now. Of course, his minutes
are way up. But your percentages you would think would
be either stabilized or go down the more volume you get,
and it's been it's gone way up. Confidence is up,
he's playing better. He does have some different defensive issues.
He's not the greatest playmaker on the planet, but he
can do some playmaking, and he's playing. He's playing very well.
I guess the ball a lot. I don't know why,
Why why are we trying to pencil him into a
point guard or shooting guard situation. He had to do
a lot of drilling last night. Yeah, he brings the
ball up some. I mean, and when he's on the floor.
He had to play it a little bit with him
in Thompson last night, albring shing Goun brings the ball up.
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant brings the ball up.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's not.
Speaker 12: It's not the nineteen sixties with Bob Coosey and the boys,
and he's just gonna sit at the there be the
floor general, right right. I thought it was really good.
He was he and Tari and well, well actually he
and Jabbari a little bit of Tari. But the reasons
why the Rockets came back and won that basketball game, period, Yes,
I mean Kevin was good, but Kevin didn't take over
the game last night. Was it five to eighteen seven
or twelve? Okay, that must been the night before or something.
Speaker 18: What it was?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 12: That a men, I mean, there was it was collectively
anybody to play I mean, they played nine players and
Reid was one of the big guys down the stretch,
Reed Shepherd, holped you win a game when you were
down sixteen. Yeah, sorry, five of eighteen was Sunday. Yeah,
it seemed disputable. So yeah, that that was I thought
that was a beautiful team win because they locked down
on defense, and you just mentioned it was it was
a peppering of everyone, a little Durant, a little jabbari Is,
some Alpi, some Amen, and then some some Reed Shepherd.
You had five different players with fifteen plus points. I
think the Spurs were eleven of twenty five in the
first half from three. I think they were three to
twenty five from three in the second half. And by
the way, Julian Champagne was going off way too much
in the first quarter of that game last night.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And also by the way, I'm sad that Steven Adams
is going to be missing extended time because look, Clint Capella,
I love him, Yeah, I know, but he's the he's
the backup to the backup centers, and that's what he is.
Speaker 2: That's honestly what he is. At the stage there is
an elite, elite.
Speaker 12: Backup center and you're gonna miss that reboutting for sure.
Matt and Ross with you on Sports Talk seven. Nine
of our time is eleven twenty one. Let's go back
on the phone, so we gotta shut your ball maxed up.
Coming up being about ten minutes, We're going to play
little highlights of the Rockets win against the Spurs at
noon with a song that is one of your all
time favorites.
Speaker 2: It is not on my iPhone, so that should help
you out a little bit.
Speaker 12: Hmmm.
Speaker 18: I don't know.
Speaker 12: It may not be one of your all time ferds,
but it's a song that you got me too that
it fits what happened last night. Okay with that for
a little tease, uh, Andy Lindahl, friend of the show,
is going to join us from Denver at one. I'm
gonna bug out to get to Philadelphia with the Rockets,
and you're gonna talk to him.
Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think?
Speaker 12: Real quick before go the phones? What do you think
Denver's thinking this week? And that's why I'm very curious.
I'll be listening to what you and you and I
found money great disappointment, I mean obviously disappointment. I mean,
if there's any offensive mind in sports that can give
jareded sent him a very small page of notes an
implementation of practice. It would be Garrett Sean Paiger. Are
they thinking Jeff Hostetler? Is that what they're thinking? Are
they thinking of Frank Reich? What are their backups made?
Playoff runs?
Speaker 2: Oh, Mick Foles?
Speaker 12: Are they thinking Nick Foles? But is but this is
Isn't this like an all timer Alzheimer? This is going
This guy, Jared Siam is gonna make his first start
in the NFL in years and it's for the AFC Championship.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe he's ready. You get ready. You don't have to.
If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.
Speaker 15: Man.
Speaker 12: I think Earl Morrale back town. Oh wow, we're going
with Greasy back in the early seven days. Didn't Johnny
Unitas back up Earl Morrol back in the day or something?
He came in and he was he was backing up.
You're mixing him up.
Speaker 5: We don't know.
Speaker 12: Some of our ogis would know the answer. We get
Charlie Palilo on the horn. Yeah, he's yeah, you would know,
he would he would he he would absolutely know. And
I don't know, And I feel like I'm a much
smaller human being because of that. Let's talk to a
Cameron online too. That's a great name. Cameron on seven
one eleven, twenty three.
Speaker 2: High Cam. What's going on? Hey, good evening, gentlemen, our
good morning, right having to you, Yes, it's evening.
Speaker 18: All right.
Speaker 19: I'm being gasoled by Nick Cassario. That press conference would
have flown in twenty eleven, in twenty twelve, even twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty. There is no I got no emotion, no
anger out of it. We had no Mahomes, we had
no Allen. In the playoffs, Bo Nicks cracked his ankle.
We literally just had to beat the Patriots, and we're
in the AFC Championship game with a diminished Denver Broncos.
There's all I hear is X. You know we need
to execute better. We need to execute better.
Speaker 2: We'll look how many games we want.
Speaker 19: I don't give a bleep about the regular season. We're
out again in the divisional playoffs. It's just I don't know, man.
Speaker 12: I Well, that's why I said, and again I'm not.
We weren't expecting him to come in and you know,
pound the table. But there was a lot of rhetoric
that you could have stolen from the last two end
of season Nick Cassario press converences. And I think sometimes
you got it at least for public perception, not that
it means anything when you go back in the walls
of Energy Stadium, but from public perception to say, hey,
getting where we are, winning just the playoff spot, winning
just a playoff game, getting just a division round, We're
mad as hell.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna take anymore.
Speaker 12: Again, it could be for purposes, just like you're talking about,
because he has to know that he's not only answering
questions for the media, he's also answering for the fans
like yourself. That's where the way we carry the press
conferences because you guys need to hear his competitor to
us talking about it. So I again, I I don't
need him to be an Academy Award winning actor, but
I thought some of the material was were repeated from
previous years would be my point.
Speaker 19: And yeah, a lack of emotion like show some anger
like yeah we dropped the damn ball like pick That's
all I wanted out of it. But I will be
calling back in ten minutes to tell him to shut
his bomb ass.
Speaker 2: All right, camera? Should we let him do that?
Speaker 22: Sure?
Speaker 12: Fan, Look, if you're expecting from emotion from from Nick Cassario,
you're gonna be waiting around a long time. And and
Nick Casaria was right, and I understand. Look, fans get
passionate and get angry and get emotional over it. Nick
Cassio can't be like that. He's not supposed to be
overreactionary and emotional. He's not supposed to run this team
like a fan. He's not supposed to. Otherwise everybody would
have benched c J. Stroud if you if you went
by fan and fan controlled league, it would be a
completely different run franchise and frankly, it would be run
poorly well. So for him to come out in there
and scream and say, yeah, we we screwed this up.
We had an opportunity to make the super Bowl. He's
not gonna do that, nor should he really. Can I
give you an analogy, Okay, here we go. Please be
open minded this. I'm always open minded, Matt. When you
go to a political rally and the Canada gets in
front of on the pulpit, right, and he gets in
front of the podium.
Speaker 2: And there's thousands of people there. I'm going to lower
your taxes. I'm going to keep the roads free and clear.
I'm going to educate your kids. I'm gonna make sure
the costs of eggs are down.
Speaker 5: Up right?
Speaker 12: What is that ross false promises? Well that may be
very well true, but it's things that the audience wants
to hear. And I'm not asking for Nick Casseio to
give me sixty minutes of a political speech. I'm just
saying there were bits and pieces of if you took
the transcript, it matched the last two years. And I
think people some people Cameron is an example. I mean,
I'm making this up. Cameron just called and said, Okay,
well I'm sorry, Cameron. I just disagree with him. I
I I again, I will give Nick a B plus
on the press conference.
Speaker 2: I do, I will do.
Speaker 12: I just say that there was a few things that
sounded like, well, we got to the championship game, we
turned it over, and we're gonna go back to the
drawing board again, don't I think there's a little bit
of people want to hear we're gonna do whatever it takes,
and how was he They're going to do that? But
we're gonna make sure that we do everything in our
power to change the course of what we have been
and that is a habitual pattern of going to the
playoffs year after year after year and not advancing any further. Yeah,
it's not his job to be charismatic. It wasn't a
open it wasn't a rally. It's not an open appeal
for votes. He's not running for office. It's a press
conference with media members as running him. What happened to
Joe Mixon's He's running for public approval.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he is.
Speaker 12: If the if the organization, if you're down on your
general manager and you don't buy into it, people are
not going to buy him to the organization. He can
be a deaf mute as long as they win, it
doesn't matter. But he's not winning, so he can't be
a deaf muti. They are winning. They won twelve games
and then they're round. But Texans fans are done with
divisional playoffs.
Speaker 3: They are.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're done to that because that's the standard that
was set because of what Knikissaria was able to do.
This team was winning four games a year, and why
are we would we be upset three years ago with
a divisional run. No, now we are because that's been
where they are. Also, the reality is is they were
never gonna beat the what was it the Ravens that
they got destroyed by in the in the division round
the first time. They didn't have any shot against the Chiefs.
They had a shot this year and they blew it.
So every year is different. Even though the results have
been the same, every year in the construction of the
team has been different. Man, if you had rookie ces
Shroud on this team, they're going to the super Bowl.
You have a generation, you have a generational defense, maybe
the best ever, and it might be just as good
next year.
Speaker 2: We don't know, but the chances are it's not.
Speaker 12: And the Blay blew it. And I think Cameron may not,
you know, maybe sticking for the entire fan base. Again,
he's not running for pitical office.
Speaker 5: I get that.
Speaker 12: But sometimes you want you put these media available abilities
out there, not because you want to get answered Aaron
Wilson's questions. You are trying to sell him message because
the media does present the message to its fans. And
I think to some, not to me because I don't
have a dog in a fight, but to some it's like, man,
give me some fresher material.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. Okay, it wasn't terrible.
Speaker 12: I'm trying to remember when rafel Stone got all upset
after the seven game loss to the Golden State Warriors.
I'm trying to remember, like when Dana Brown he's always
super positive and people don't like the way that he speaks. Well,
here's the reality is that general managers don't typically get Wow.
Speaker 2: I was blown away by that, man. I'm fired up.
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's in the same category as other folks, and
Nick Caseario is gonna be as milk toasted women. We
just we call him GM speak. It's just it's Nick speak.
He's a robot, Casario bot. I've been calling him Cassario
bot for years because he's a robot. ROSSI, it's just raw.
If you expect a robot to show emotion at this point,
that's on you. That's why you want to worry about
this a year from now. If they don't make the
championship game, yeah, we'll sink.
Speaker 2: All right. You already to tell some people to shut
their bumb asses up.
Speaker 12: Yes, Cameron, you want to come in here, tell Ross
shut his bum ass up, tell me, Yeah, that's fine.
Battle Red Ross is like, I love Nick Cassio. He's
the greatest thing in the world. If you're expecting Nick, no, sie,
I didn't say that. If you're expecting Nick Cassario to
show a bunch of emotion and start like flipping tables,
you're gonna be waiting a long time. That'd be awesome.
That would be amazing, CJ. You had it on a
silver platter. Just throw passes to open receivers and don't
turn the ball over. We would be in Denver.
Speaker 2: We blew it.
Speaker 12: That would have been awesome. I mean he kind of
said that. He said, we can't win the game turn
the ball over five times, but he loves some CJ.
Shut jobamass up. Ain't nobody got time for that. After
a word for the amazing people at Affordable Tree service,
her again at your body.
Speaker 2: Again, tamp it, get damp.
Speaker 18: It, get damp it again.
Speaker 23: Ta get time herebody get damp it all.
Speaker 12: Right, it's our needless to say, ROSSI our favorite thirty
minutes of the week. Somebody irritates this, Somebody brings us
down some at the office. Toss talks had naunts him
about his golf game and what they serve in the
crock pot for thirty minutes when you're trying to get
wake up, heat up your food.
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous. Anybody got time for that?
Speaker 12: Hey, nobody get tam for it now before we get
to our special celebrity guest on, shut your bomb mess up.
Jonathan has been fighting the cold. Do you want to
tell your cold? Anybody got time for that?
Speaker 5: Is he doing?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 7: Now, I'm doing good, But everybody Houston and rains a lot.
If retires a balled get out the left lane.
Speaker 2: That's my guy right there.
Speaker 12: Oh wait, you should not be in the far left
lane unless you're passing or going to ninety five miles
an hour one of the two.
Speaker 2: Okay, what you got this week's sports are?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 2: You know what this happened? Because I was tweeting about CJ.
Speaker 12: Stroud, as was everyone, and I put out one where
I had some polls about whether or not he was
a franchise quarterback, and most people are saying he's not.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 12: I didn't know this, Matt, because we were talking about
this on Monday. We thought only the Stroud family and
David Mulligetta were backing CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 12: Apparently there are Stroud Truthers out there and they are
very angry. How can you watch your quarterback turn the
ball over three times in the wild card and then
four times in the divisional round and say that they
and defend him and talk about how Grady is Now.
If you want to say that Texas can still need
to give him another year and their situation is not good.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 12: But if you want to act like he's like balling
out of control and top five and getting all angry,
and I mentioned shut Joe bumass up Stroud up man.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, get your head out of the sand.
Did you not do we all watch that game that
was indefensible, yet it's getting defended. I can't believe it.
Speaker 12: Ryan Clark ESPN shuts Jo bumass up, mate up man.
Speaker 2: Big Struth Trouther, Troud Truther. Yeah, how could you watch?
Speaker 12: Okay, one of the picks was off Hutchinson's hand, it
was still a high throw.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I think the other three picks were terrible. Yeah, now
it's my turn. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 12: So friend of our shows decided to shoot a photo
of her in the hallway at the Tota Center last night. Okay,
with the Spurs warming up in the background in the hallway.
First of all, they're wearing those Fiesta powder uniforms, which
are not the uniforms but the warm ups. It's bad luck.
Spurs are black and silver, not this multiple colored crap
i like the old Fiesta colors.
Speaker 2: No, thank you, Okay, then she is. No, it's what
the Spurs are all about.
Speaker 12: It's the icemane, It's Johnny Moore, it's Tim Duncan dribbling
seventeen times at the elbow and throwing up a shot
in the seeing is just for men running down his forehead.
Then sixteen point lead m m. Then Spurs nation was
going ballistic inside Tota.
Speaker 2: Say they were loud. Then Reed Shepherd happened.
Speaker 12: So our live guest in studio, Missy, the Ultiman Spurs fan. Missy,
we love you. We've been coworkers for sixteen years. I
say this with warmth and charm and with great passion.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 12: Jo, bumass up, girl, Shit, Jo bum ass up man,
your spurs Aha. Your coach Mitch Johnson said, we didn't
show any grit, we didn't show any fight. We couldn't
shoot the three when Binyama was overrated last night. Adam
Clanton loves on that big time. What do you say
for yourself, your Spurs giving up that sixteen point lead?
That one's working. Are you going talking to that one?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sure, why not? It's a limp.
Speaker 23: It's a limp.
Speaker 2: It's a limp one. Oh God Jesus, staying away from
all this stuff. Hi, Maddie, Hello, missy. How are things going?
Speaker 23: Things are going great?
Speaker 12: Oh, you're doing better than Wimby five to twenty one.
Speaker 24: Wimby locked up not not not the best, not the
best game. But who would have thought Reed Shepherd was
going to be the Rocket's leadings?
Speaker 2: Everybody did? Everybody?
Speaker 25: The Shepherd family, Wildcats fans and the Stroud Truthers probably
thought that Reed Shepherd.
Speaker 23: There's probably some Shepherd troops.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 23: No, great.
Speaker 24: It was great to see the boys in the building yesterday.
I had a great time. There was a, like you said,
a lot of Spurs fans.
Speaker 5: I too.
Speaker 23: Maddie. Am a traditionalist. Black silver.
Speaker 2: That's that's what she's wearing today.
Speaker 24: There should be uh, the color of your uniform, the
color of your vehicles. Everything should just be black and silver.
I do not the Fiesta la spurs Era. I thought
we would never have to see it again. But now
the kids these days, they like this retro nonsense. I
do not like the the bluey green aqua warm ups.
Speaker 2: Not thank you, but it's cool.
Speaker 23: That's our little though. You tell the Raiders that they're
boring and bland.
Speaker 12: Hey tell Penn stay down and makes a color I
mean like shut your bow, masses up, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they went back because I have have a little fun,
have a little zest, a little team non zest de vive.
Speaker 23: We do in our city connects. That's let's just connect and.
Speaker 12: Move on, like we don't need to be c Gray's
not bad. I like that, but it's black, silver and gray.
That's the Spurs.
Speaker 23: I do like how on on one of.
Speaker 24: Our uniforms we've gone back to where it says San
Antonio on the front, like in the olden days, your
road uniforms used to say your city. Home uniforms said
your team name like Spurs. Okay, so they have gone
back to that occasionally, and I am a fan of that.
But uh, I'm gonna give you your flowers, Maddie. I
know you did say that the Spurs would win in
a series in a seven like a seven game series,
if the Spurs and the Rockets were to meet, the
Spurs would probably sweep the Rockets.
Speaker 12: We're gonna have a We're gonna have a big bet. No,
I did not say that big bet. What's the big bet?
They gotta play each other first in a series. Oh,
I just to stay away from me. I can't stay away.
And the mores of the Rockets, I can't stay do
body up Wimby? They do stuff them into the locker.
He needs to get a little bit more tough.
Speaker 1: He.
Speaker 23: I could see it because I was at the game.
Speaker 12: You was a Spurs fan. Cannot like Luke Cornett. Louke
Cornett was balling. Actually hear the reverse dunk lass due.
I was like, Louke Cornett was balling. That's crazy.
Speaker 24: Ask it where I was sitting. It was gorgeous last night.
But I will say this, Wimby did not have a
great game. And teams are figuring out like I guess
they saw it after we we because I'm the backup
point guard.
Speaker 23: Yes about Thomas's line, Yes, uh.
Speaker 24: He after we beat Oklahoma City the three times we
beat them.
Speaker 25: They figured out. Okay, if we just elbow. Wimby, he
gets a little flustered, and he did. You could see
it last night. He got very frustrated. He uh, their
very team.
Speaker 24: They they don't point fingers and shoot blame at their
their players when they're down there. But Wimby was frustrated.
And I will say, because I'm not going to get
fined by the NBA. The referees on both ends were
really sketched last night. They really they were wonderful.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 23: They swallowed the whistle.
Speaker 24: It's like they were trying to make up for the
delay we had from the goal problem in the shop.
Speaker 23: Well, you know what, he likes to jump.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 24: I heard you guys had a problem like three days
ago with the shot clock on the I don't know.
Maybe you guys should pay a little bit more to
get that stuff done.
Speaker 12: You know what, we we have super technologies. Sometimes technology.
Speaker 23: I will say, I love the upgrades and the tech.
It's really cool.
Speaker 25: I like the green lines on the Coaches Challenge that
go all around the stadium, and that is very cool.
Speaker 23: I will say it's very cool to the scoreboard.
Speaker 24: But the under the thing screens, that's the first time
I've seen those, all right, so that was really cool.
Speaker 25: But let's get a rocket series going and we'll make
a bet for a large amount of food, and you
and I can just drive back and forth for all
the games. I'm gonna fly Rossie and I will drive back.
I'll get us a sponsor. Yes, Rossie and I will
drive back and forth. Will do podcast the whole way,
the whole way, from the from the from the BUCkies.
Speaker 24: No, we're gonna stop at Bill Miller's and get some
fried chicken. Okay, I was gonna say, don't get the barbecue.
Speaker 23: No chicken and tea.
Speaker 2: That is a Bill Miller.
Speaker 23: We'll go to Chris Madrid's and get some burgers.
Speaker 2: Okay, that sound okay?
Speaker 25: Well there's I have a million places swimming in the walk. No,
I'll bring my has Matt suit, not my swimsuit, don't know,
depending on Yeah, yeah, I mean so guess what.
Speaker 12: We have another matchup one week from to the tomorrow.
One week from tomorrow, thirty start time. It's kind of
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Speaker 12: To shut my bumm. No, they would never do that, Hey, Houston,
would you tell the Spurs fan to shut their bumb
ass up on this show? I don't think that's going
to be the case.
Speaker 23: Fans last night did so they did?
Speaker 2: They did?
Speaker 12: All right, that's miss miss the Elephants first fan making
an appearance here on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross Moore.
We shut you by myself. Oh we've got a bran,
new fresh collar Cameron in the line. Ross, And if
you heard from him or not, never you'll be talking
to Cameron next here on the Matt Thomas Show, Ross
eleven fifty.
Speaker 2: Four Sports Talk seven hounty. You guys and ladies, by way,
are always welcome to call in and tell somebody to
shut there by myself. Anybody got time for that?
Speaker 12: Seven one three two one two five seven nine zero
seven one three two one two five seven ninety Ross,
let's go to the phone. See you was out there today.
You know I love the name Cameron. Didjent you love
the name Cameron Ross.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 12: My oldest son's name. His mother calls him Cameron. I
call him cam. His brothers and sisters call him Cammy.
Let's talk to Cameron on seven, aunty Cameron. What's the
matter with you?
Speaker 2: Cameron?
Speaker 19: Gentlemen Ross? Hello, Hello, Yeah, nick a Sario only that
press conference was shut your bumb ass up. You're gas
lighting us.
Speaker 5: Okay, we're not.
Speaker 19: We're not happy with the divisional divisional exit again. Sorry,
and okay, maybe not show a lot of emotion, but
don't gaslight me into thinking, well, look how many games
we won in the regular season. You're one of the
leaders of the team. You set the tone, especially since
you addressed the press. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Oh he's doing a sorry on top of that too.
Speaker 19: Ass up?
Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you came like him to shut his bomb
ass up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I say, we're gonna play some more cuts throughout
the course of the show today. But my feeling is.
Speaker 12: I had no expectations for Nicky to be very honest,
and I thought it was most part pretty forthcoming. Yeah,
since he's been GM. They were four and thirteen, three
thirteen and one, ten and seven Divisional, ten and seven Divisional,
twelve and five Divisional.
Speaker 2: And the one thing to.
Speaker 12: Give Casario the benefit on this is that he's not
gonna give you every the company, all the company secrets
you'd like to, you'd like more, You're not gonna get
any who does most teams do that. I mean, let
me tell you something. I want to know what the
heck Joe Mixon did. Okay, so we need Jonathan. We
needed a ruling on this because I'm the one that
kind of persuaded you towards the gunshot.
Speaker 5: We can wait.
Speaker 12: What is your I have now switched. I'm still betting
on the gunshot wound. Okay, but I'm still now I
think the new leader in the clubhouse is a botch
medical procedure or both. Or it could be a botch
medical procedure after he shot himself on the foot. When
he says nothing irresponsible, that gives me confidence that I
could win the bet. And we're playing for a almond
croissant and a cup of coffee. Yes you like Colebrew though,
so we'll probably have more of a Venti flavor size.
Uh well, it depends if I go the nitro. You
see a grande. That's bad boys, Okay, three hundred milligrams
of coffee caffeine. I got you all right where you
signed Jonathan on this? Are you going bodg medical procedure?
Speaker 2: Are you gonna? Are you gonna fall with me? On
the gunshot wound to the foot? Can we go to
Badutin or Mom? And you won't go away? And I
just don't like bar Bucks? That's fine.
Speaker 7: It does sound like malpractice if I'm being completely released.
Speaker 12: No, I know I was looking for Maybe I'm still
holding out home. But it's a gunshot wound. Okay, So
when does this expire? And like I said, if if
I lose, no, we have to have If we don't
have any if we don't have any further information by
the end of the super Bowl, meaning the Monday after
the super Bowl, then you win the bed.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 12: If it comes and finds out that I was right
after all, it's a doubles you do, then owe me
two croissants and two cups of coffee.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 12: I want to go to Mom and Mond and I'll
get a cold brew and a Kuna Mond. It's delicious.
Let her In fact, when ross I went to Lake Charles.
What was it when we go in a while, I
should say baseball season or was it like early football?
When we went to that play that coffee shop? Yeah,
we found a nice little coffee player. They're gone next
to Meryl's.
Speaker 2: Is it really gone? They moved? Did they really? How
did you know that? You and I went to I
went to Lake Charles recently?
Speaker 18: Oh?
Speaker 2: You did? That's right? Quite well? So where where is
the place now?
Speaker 5: I don't know?
Speaker 12: She went over there going mad? Don't get me A
nice was gone. I was like, I need a caffeine
for these blackjack tables. We spent money with them and
us trade or anything because I went and got the
large ooh, and you were why wouldn't they get the
large Darrel special.
Speaker 2: I needed some caffeine. It was gonna put me to sleep,
all right?
Speaker 12: Last call seven one three two two five seven. That's
what those sandwiches do it? Seven one three two one
two five seven.
Speaker 2: Anything else going on?
Speaker 19: Oh?
Speaker 12: I'm want to Lena doggo to shut her bumb ass up.
That that was a ridiculous setting out that.
Speaker 2: Well, we should be really proud of our guys.
Speaker 5: Resilient.
Speaker 12: That sucked. Shut your bum mass up. Lena, we're about
our county roads. I'm all about government people staying in government. Uh, well,
they are pr people, so they have to try to
make pr for themselves. We want to keep getting voted in.
I don't think he's running f I was gonna say,
are they just done? Are there term limits on that?
I think she decided nothing. Can we get term limits
on everything? By the way, except radio host? We should
be here for it. We're not voted in, Man, that's true.
We'll probably be voted out by ratings at revenue. Are
doing well, We're good. We're gonna keep our job. That's
why you got to call Missy. Yes, indeed, all right, Uh,
let's get to the news at noon. Hey, Ross, they
got a quick question for you. Yes, what did you
see last night? I wouldn't call it a comeback. They've
been here for years. I wouldn't call it a comeback.
That's all I'm saying. Okay, are you ready for some lunch?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 12: I'm starving. Actually, Big City Wings. Hello, My window to
eat starts in one minute. Pleaase come feed our guy
Ross a. Big City Wings.
Speaker 1: Is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Come on, Man,
I went to TBC News the comeback, Morris.
Speaker 12: Don't call it a comeback, say knock you out? Yeah,
read Shepherd baby the first call on the rocket Trap
last night, Harry, Guys, he's been disappointing. I stand like
I'm a deputy Dung.
Speaker 2: Is that who it was? Drooping? Droopy? Dung complained being
he just scored twenty one points? What was it ten
or twelve in the fourth Yeah.
Speaker 12: By the way, a lot of you have been sending
me emails and tweets about this, and thank you. I
should have said it.
Speaker 2: I knew this.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 12: The reason why Ryan Clark is a c. J. Stroud
truther is because a Ryan Clark's agent is David Mullagetta.
Speaker 2: Oh is that true? Uh?
Speaker 15: C J.
Speaker 2: Stroud's agent is David Yeah, Okay, David Mulla gonna get
you some money. David Mulla gonna ruin this city here.
If his mega client isn't getting mega money, he's.
Speaker 12: Not holding out now would he hold out going into
a fifth year depending on how this season goes?
Speaker 2: No, this is okay. Next year is year four.
Speaker 12: Next year the New York that would be year five
where the team m have to pick up the option
and then you can in theory.
Speaker 2: I think was it three year.
Speaker 12: Franchise for a couple of years, Yeah, not that they
would not they're gonna get he might if he gets franchise.
Speaker 2: He's holding out. I would imagine.
Speaker 12: And when I say ugly, I mean David Mullagetta is
going to go to all of his media mouthpieces and
it's going to try to sway the conversation of the Texans.
Speaker 2: Don't know what they're doing. Nic Cassiro's hard to negotiate
with blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I don't think I think that's a I don't think
that's gonna happen. I think there's evidence that proves otherwise.
I think Mullagetta can play the medium card very very well.
When did somebody not get paid? I'm just talking about here.
I guess Hen Watson wanted to be Sean was There's
another one?
Speaker 5: Was it?
Speaker 2: It was it Lamar too? Or Am I making that up?
Is he Lamar Jackson's agent?
Speaker 12: Lamar Jackson was going to get franchise and then they
were talking about trading him, and then eventually they signed
him to a big deal, but it got contankerous for
a while yeah, let me see David, I know his mom?
What yeah, oh yeah, Lamar Jackson's Is that still true?
I thought it was like when he came out, is
it GPT says that, Well, sometimes they're wrong. Did he
eventually get an agent?
Speaker 2: I thought?
Speaker 12: Or maybe it's still is it's still his mom. I'm
looking at I'm gonna look up right now. David mullan,
get a client, you.
Speaker 2: Need to pay my baby? Is that what happened?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think it went that way.
Speaker 12: Okay, all right, I'm not gonna making him some chunky soup,
David mulla Goeta.
Speaker 2: Clients would include uh C J. Strow.
Speaker 12: We mentioned uh Caln Bullock. By the way of the Texans,
Deshaun Watson you brought up, well, he did quite well
for himself justin fields, but that wasn't.
Speaker 2: MICHAEH. Parson, Oh, Mike up.
Speaker 12: Thousands in Dallas was very very Yeah, he got traded,
but frankly that was more because Jerry Jones, an idiot.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones didn't want to pay him. Yeah.
Speaker 12: I if we're in a scenario where he has a season,
he's not gonna have a season like this where he's
kind of decent and then has a playoff disaster. There's
if he gets two more playoff disasters like this, he's
not gonna be on the team anymore. Correct he can
regress and or he can progress. We're gonna see he's
gonna play games.
Speaker 2: You have time.
Speaker 12: This is not decision time right now. This is it's
not gonna I don't I don't foresee it could get ugly. Yes,
David Mulagatta likes to draw a hard line in the sane,
and he's gonna want his guys to get paid. It's possible, right,
but I feel like we're probably gonna end up unless
we're gonna be in limbo to where it's like, eh,
you're gonna have more of a sample size.
Speaker 23: You're gonna have.
Speaker 12: Four, impossibly five years to figure out what it is
with CJ. Shroud. If you want to make him your
franchise guy, or you can win with him the way
the roster is, you can to an extent. They won
twelve games and made the Divisional round. But if he
wasn't a complete disaster, and here's the reality, they're in
the ANFC Championship Game and going to the Super Bowl.
Quite Frank Ross and I mainly met. We got to
do a better job of trying to get away from
the contract conversation, because this really shouldn't be a conversation
piece unless the Texans spread the word through Ian Rappaport
and some other folks that they are trying to negotiate
something other than that. It's really not even a It's
not even a talking point. The talking point for twenty
twenty six is going to be will ce j Strout
be a better quarterback to next year and get this
team to a different level than he has in his
previous three years. To the News at noon, we go
at twelve minute, ten minutes past the hour, ten o'clock,
twelve o'clock, he said, easily prosteds.
Speaker 2: What's going on the world of news.
Speaker 12: Yes, Matthew, what we mentioned the Houston Rockets defeating the
San Antonio Spurs one eleven to one oh six last
night at the Toyota Center. But we also got the
unfortunate news in the pregame media availability. Matt that read
Rockets head coach Imiadoka saying a Grade three ankle sprain
for Steven Adams. That means that there has been a
ligament tear, if not multiple. So we're talking not a
matter of weeks, but a matter of months for Steven
Adams missing time with your Houston Rockets and going to
be sorely missed. I mean, I like Clint Capella, but
he ain't Steven Adams. So a couple of months at least,
So could you go get reinforcement as a just a
guy backup center where I don't know? I mean, there's
that's Ryan Hollins in good shape. You can play Ey
eight minutes. The fact is, though that's not a topic
of conversation that regular fans have, that's does deep in
the weeds among general managers in front office folks. I
think people are gonna miss Steven Adams. No, no, I
don't disagree with that. I'm just saying that who the
options are?
Speaker 19: Right?
Speaker 2: I got you?
Speaker 12: So Rockets have won three in a row. Now they
are in the number four spot in the West. All
you people, you know what, I should have shut your
bum dass up like that guy was arguing with it.
This is this team is going to completely fall apart
and they're going to be an eight seed Max. That
guy can shut his bumb ass up. Where are you people?
At even though the Rockets are only three games from
being the eighth seed. By the way, the Rockets had
nine block shots last night. How many didn't win? We
have he had zero? Second Wim Harrison Barnes old ass.
Harrison Barnes had a block before.
Speaker 2: Man the NBA champion. I'm I'm the epitome of the
old ass. I mean, that's what it is. That feels
like that's that's a good clip, all right.
Speaker 12: Well, Also, Matt, elsewhere in the news, did you see
is it Pegula or Pagula Bill's owner Terry Pegula. I
mean he was going scorched earth on Sean McDermott defending
Brandon Bean, saying it was Sean McDermott and one of
the wide receiver Keon Coleman. Keon Coleman's still on the roster,
by the way, was an active part of the game
on the over the weekend. You have the owner calling
you out and saying, Brandon Bean, the GM went along
and was a team player and got you Coleman, who
was selected by the Buffalo Bills with the thirty third
overall pick in twenty twenty four. And I mean, I
don't know what the heck's going on there in Buffalo
and who is going to be the head coach? Brian Dable,
I think is the is the chalk pick. But how
about the owner going out and calling out a current player.
Speaker 5: On the roster.
Speaker 12: Ah, that's probably a guy that had no idea. Who
keyon Coleman was well not pre draft?
Speaker 2: No, all right.
Speaker 12: One of the NFL note, yes on the owner, Robert
Kraft of the New England Patriots, was on a podcast
or radio shown on what it was?
Speaker 2: But it was something I bessages in you No it
was not. Oh it's not orchids and friends.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 12: He says that the conversation in the NFL circles this
is no surprise, but really, you don't hear an owner
say this at least publicly. Eighteen game schedule, two games preseason,
and a gut feeling that I'm going to hit on
every but team has to play an international game. Nick okay, future,
So I think I got that one on that one.
More NFL note. Did you see Baker Mayfield's tweet?
Speaker 5: I did not.
Speaker 12: De Orlando ledbetter friend of the show he's been on
with us before. Not a great interview, but it's okay.
Voices a little off, but we wish him the best.
And then he stopped responding to my text but that's okay.
Put out a tweet talking about Kevin Stefanski in Atlanta,
saying Kevin Stefanski had a dumpster fire at quarterback in Cleveland.
Baker Mayfield and Deshaun Watson failed, which started a chain
reaction to eleven other starters. Baker Mayfield tweeting, not so
fast my friend quote failed is quite the reach pal.
Speaker 2: Still waiting on.
Speaker 12: A text call from him after I got shipped off
like a piece of garbage. Can't wait to see you
twice a year coach in the same division.
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield v.
Speaker 12: Kevin Stefanski gonna be a nice AFC South matchup to
keep an eye on coming up in the next season.
Speaker 2: Love it all right?
Speaker 12: More phone calls plus a couple of cuts from Nick
Asario coming up in the next thing of the show.
Speaker 15: It is.
Speaker 2: A right back of the phones. We go with Ross.
I'm Matt. This is Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 12: It is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross seven one
three two one two five seven nine zero seven one
three two one two five seven ninety. Let's talk to
Alex and Conroe on seven NINTI, Alex, Uh, that's rights again, Alex,
thanks for waiting.
Speaker 2: Good afternoon.
Speaker 5: What's going on, Matt?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 26: So I work a weird shift. I just got to
work at noon and I get off at nine point thirty.
So I listened to a full spectrum of sports radio
throughout the day.
Speaker 2: For any further, before you any further, what do you
do for a living, I'm very curious.
Speaker 12: I'm a welder, okay, you know what. I will say this,
and I think Ross would back me up on this.
For you to your phone call, I could do a
noon to nine.
Speaker 22: It's great, honestly, it's not.
Speaker 26: It sucks whenever you want to go to something, you know,
during the day during the evening, but overall, man, I'd
rather get up at ten then get up at six,
So it's it's not a complete loss, as if I
get an extra dollar for working later.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for telling us that.
Speaker 12: And again, now you said you were listening to a
lot of sports radio, hopefully listen to us quite a bit,
and for that we thank you.
Speaker 26: So I just basically stay on seven to ninety from
noon to seven o'clock, you know, and then in the evening,
I get a little busy with other stuff. Whenever I
get home, take a shower, I'm listening to some other
more national brands, right okay, And I guess this is
where I'm at. If if you come up and you
want to talk sports with me, you know, just chop
it up as a as a you know, guy to guy,
and all you do is listen to national sports guys.
If you get your takes from Colin Cowherd, shut you'll
bum up. I do not want to talk to you.
I have nothing to say to you. You are not
intelligent enough to have a conversation with because you you're
just regurgitating the same crap that you've been told over
and over again and then going on on these uh,
these national guys.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 26: Ben Mallard, dude, Ben Mallord, I just I want to
throw a rock at him so bad, man. I just
want to this whole, this whole perpetuation of of encouraging
people to just stick their heads in the in the
sand when it comes to the cheating scandal, it's you're
you're bright enough, and you are clearly talented enough, and
you have the mental aptitude to have that job. To
be put in that place where you are, you know,
talking to so many people at one time, because apparently
you are smart, but you're not smart enough to use
your brain to figure out how something could be connected
even though there's no there's no uh, you know, black
and white thing that says, Okay, Carlos Beltron brought the
system from New York. You're you're clever enough to figure out,
you know, whether or not this kid, this kid from
Duke is gonna go to Miami or not. You're you're
you're clever enough to figure that one out because you know,
you can tell that he's going for the money. That
makes sense to you. But understanding that a cheating system
could have come from somewhere else and traveled, that's that's
beyond your comprehension.
Speaker 5: I'm tired of.
Speaker 2: These guys, man.
Speaker 26: I just don't have the energy to argue with them anymore.
Speaker 15: They'll just just just shut your bum ass up.
Speaker 5: Man, I got it.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 12: They're doing it. They're doing it to agitate you. Thank you,
Alex with the phone call. They're they're they're winning the battle. Shit,
So bum ass up, man, I mean, the only way
you can win the battle back with them is just
not listen to it. Yes, don't feed the trolls. Yeah,
every you know, look, every show is some people love that,
some people hate that. Mean, same could be for this show,
for any show. I've never heard of a radio show,
well for that matter of TV program it is universal,
but by every single person. No, I mean that maybe
mister Rogers neighborhood. Yeah, I was gonna say, if you
don't like mister Rogers, something's wrong with you. But I
mean like in radio, Paul Harvey would do a fifteen
minute newscast every day, and he did it for five
or six decades, but he wasn't always universally loved because
there was always the thought that he was a more
of a conservative news reader than he was as a
straight down the middle Okay, I wasn't a Paul Harvey guy.
Speaker 2: I liked his rest of the stories those are kind
of interesting to me.
Speaker 12: The rest of the story. I screwed one of those
up on Kate t H one of my first shifts.
Speaker 2: Did you really?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Sorry about that?
Speaker 12: Yeah, thanks for bringing it up. I mean to, but yeah,
everybody's going to know their strengths and weaknesses. Everybody's going
to know that Ben, and I've met Ben a couple
of times over the ear. You have, Yeah, in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I guess he can.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know him that much, but he.
Speaker 12: Knows he's poking the bear because he knows one of
his biggest markets is Houston.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So, and in as far as Colin's concerned, Colin speaks
so national audience. You have to kind of talk in generalities.
You don't have to know the specifics of things and
get stuff wrong. You get stuff wrong.
Speaker 5: You just are.
Speaker 2: You don't know every fifty three men or every fifteen.
Speaker 12: Men, or the history or the vibe. Yeah, that's why
I would never I've told you this hundreds of times.
I would never. I mean, look the granted, if somebody said, Matt,
we're gonna triple your salary, I'd figure out way to
do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 12: I would never choose a path towards doing national radio
because you don't have any passion for anything.
Speaker 2: You have to kind of just speak in generalities.
Speaker 12: You can't like, for instance, when CJ screwed the pooch
on this Weekend, you and I came in with fire
and brimstone because we were passionate about a local team.
We covered You can be mad about CJ for about
a minute a half on the national radio show, and
then you gotta move on to what's going on with
the Cowboys? Yeah, or Lebron the Packers, you know what
I mean. Yeah, it's just not it's not as fun now.
There were some people like for instance, Nick Wright, who
used to be work here in town. His goal was
to be the national irritator.
Speaker 2: And he's done.
Speaker 12: He's done quite well for him, says he has. But
he that was his path, and Colin's path was I
want to do a national show. And if you have
that path and you are and somebody thinks you're good
enough to doing it, you're gonna make significantly more money
than the local guy will. And but you're also gonna
have is You're gonna have a much broader audience, but
you have a much group, greater group of people that
are gonna hate and despise your guts. And that's that's
the choice you have to make too in this business.
Is if you if you do want to sensationalize things
and if you do want to be fake, I'm just
gonna say, if you want to be fake to climb
your way to the top. The national way is the
easy way to go. Yeah, because if you're doing a
national show. And I'm not trying to indict the national folks,
although I kind of am. You don't some of them
are nice. I'm sure no there. I mean, Look, I've
met Colin Coward. My son, my oldest son, loves I
don't know if he still loves anymore. It was when
he was in high school. But we went and saw
Colin Coward. We went to California many years ago, and
Colin was very nice to us, very inquisitive and actually,
frankly knew the Houston landscape much more than.
Speaker 2: I thought he would. But I've always liked about Collins show.
I've liked that how do I put this?
Speaker 12: It's fast paced, he has these I think he does
a much better job of analogies than I do. Oh
that's good, which I think a low bar for that.
But he gets a lot of things wrong and he
doubles down on it.
Speaker 2: And that's to me, Like I.
Speaker 12: I learned that if you're going to do this job,
you're not going to bat a thousand when it comes
to every one of your sports takes every one of
your opinions or for that matter, one of your facts.
Now there are some facts like hey, who caught the
Brett fav touchdown on the Super Bowl. If you messed
that up, okay, no big deal. But if you don't
know the basic stuff and have a basic history of
your sports town, or a basic knowledge of how a
team was can put together, or knowing the players the team,
then that's a problem. In Collin's case, I'm not trying
about Concut in General'm talking about all the Nationals. They
just all they have to do is just know a
little bit about a couple of players. Well, yeah, in
some listen to the Matt Thomas Show podcast with Rosspiel
podcasts instead of the national guys. I don't listen to
Ben mallor look, I know it's on our station. He's
just trolling. You don't listen to it.
Speaker 2: He's a troll.
Speaker 12: He's trolling. He's trying to get your reaction. Do not
feed the troll.
Speaker 2: Just ignore it.
Speaker 12: And the easiest way to ignore it is to go
to sleep, yeah, or put the podcast on the podcast
let me tell you, putting us on at midnight.
Speaker 2: That could get some feelings going the ladies love us
at midnight?
Speaker 5: Is that true?
Speaker 2: I've heard many a story.
Speaker 12: Really, Yes, our sultry voice around has how romances between
I've heard it's put people to sleep. That's a different show. Okay,
So it's a Teddy Pendergrass play mix. And then you
put our show on?
Speaker 2: Yes? Did you see that?
Speaker 12: Somebody on instagram sparks fly and I'm not trying to
toutor on gonna do any you ready for this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 12: A young lady listened to our show was running the
marathon last week. Yes, and was listening to our show
as she was running, shout out, Sarah, is that who
it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Sarah, we love you. She's running on empty until this show.
She's not Jackson browning it. Okay, she's running on full.
She's got the Matt Thomas show'd Ross podcast going. It
really passed the time. So I made a decision, once
the basketball season's ever with, I'm gonna do a game
show podcast. Yes, no wrestling, just game shows.
Speaker 22: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Are you gonna you're gonna do it solo? Are you
gonna partner with iHeart?
Speaker 2: What are you doing with that?
Speaker 12: I don't do negotiations, but what I wanted is I
want to have a live guest one every week, and
I want us a video but I don't know how
to do any of that stuff. Okay, I want it.
Just gonna do a podcast too. With how much game
shows suck you hear that, folks, I'm just kidding, so
mean you are. You have to be one of the
foremost pre eminent experts on game show. So I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna do it in America. I'm gonna do a
half hour show a week. I'm gonna commit to it.
Name me every host of the match game Jean Rayburn,
Bert Convey on the pilot match Game Hollywood Squares Hour
was Jean Rayburn and John Bauman match Game with Alec Baldwin.
Speaker 2: Match Game with.
Speaker 12: You're like freaking rain Man, do a game show podcast?
And then the guy robbed that did it too, rob Shape? Oh,
Ross Shaffer did one too, Yeah he did. Probably he didn't.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna assume that's correct.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna tell you the truth, all right. Up next,
Vince went on Short to It Martin, she's current host.
He does a terrible job of it too, I mean,
just wretched. I heard he was an unfunny guy. Yeah,
the unfunniest guy in America. So the funny thing is,
though he was kind of funny and arrested, development never
saw the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a great show. I wouldn't recommend it to you.
Speaker 12: All Right, Vince on some of the rockets, and we're
gonna hear nicky Ce talk about the Texans wonderful and
coming up at one twenty, you're gonna go to Denver
colorackets areobot.
Speaker 2: We'll talk next. He was better than that, right, We
gotta be fair, We have to do better.
Speaker 12: We are building the team to win. We will do
what it takes.
Speaker 2: See, your boy Cameron's got a point, doesn't he.
Speaker 12: He's not gonna show emotion.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying emotion. I want emotion. I want something.
I want a pulse. That's what he's asking for. What's
a pulse? Don't crush the kid wants a pulse. See
a little passion again. We're gonna go to the relationship card, Matt.
Speaker 12: You know, I'd like to see a little more emotion,
a little more passion for your therapists to say that.
Speaker 5: What do you say?
Speaker 2: No, I promised to turn down the passion to forty
Sports Talks seven ninety.
Speaker 12: Vince is with us on the Matt Thomas showld Ross
We're gonna hear from Nicky c after that high Vince.
Speaker 15: Hey, guys had one to the game yesterday and a
couple of things. I really loved the recognition the crowd
gave out too big when they introduced him. I don't
know if you noticed that or I did.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was quite rocket.
Speaker 15: Yeah, very racous. Number two. A lot of San Antonio
fans there. There was one guy that was really really obnoxious,
sitting close to me and kept saying I can't.
Speaker 21: Hear you, I can hear you, and does real basketball is.
Speaker 15: Played at the end of game. I let him have it,
by the way.
Speaker 2: Good But I love the rivalry.
Speaker 15: I think it's a renewed rivalry between San Antonio and Houston.
I think that's a great thing. But one thing I
did want to kind of ask you about, do you
notice a rift or something happening between Sengoon and Durant
because I noticed that they kind of were miscommunicating or something,
and they seemed both seemed very perturbed at each other.
Is that something that we should do very about or
just the normal courts of the things.
Speaker 2: I would chalk that up.
Speaker 12: Vincent, thank you for the phone call to two guys
competitive trying to play win a game down double digits,
tired to turn the ball over. I actually I'm trying
to go back to my game notes I wrote about
when that happened.
Speaker 2: Look at you prepper like about it, I know, just
put your notes on Twitter.
Speaker 12: Third quarter was that? Oh third quarter? Eight oh six?
After you doka time out. They were all arguing, but
it was like construct They weren't like going at each
other's throats. It was constructive. Because I wrote that down
in case somebody brought it up in the postgame. Actually, yeah,
it was in the third quarter, Chingooon and Durant were
kind of arguing about defensive coverage or something like that.
Jamar Smith Junior was on the bench and he was
kind of between them and they were all disagreeing, and
then Shinoon I think one of the assistants came to
him and told him he was wrong. That was basketball stuff.
To me, that was coaching. That's not a riff. That
is these guys are going to argue all the time.
It's it's like your brother or something, and you're gonna argue,
it's gonna be okay, they're going to disagree you missed
the assignment. No, you missed the assignment, and then they
figure out, oh I was supposed to do this or whatever,
this basketball stuff.
Speaker 2: I didn't think anything of it other than that.
Speaker 12: I mean, like I said, I did write it down
just in case somebody brought it up, but I literally
wrote not bad or contentious or anything. Yes, I would
tell you if there was a problem, we'd find out
about it. And they're just not They're just I mean, look,
Katie is going to hold you accountable. Younger players not
nearly as boisterous players may not say something, but Katie
doesn't hide his emotions. And I think albrunshing Gun sometimes
does miss defensive assignments and he gets a little defensive
about it. Just just me thinking saying out loud, just
an observation.
Speaker 2: I could be way off.
Speaker 12: Yes, look, that's a highly charged game that this is
the time of the year where the Western Conference seatings
are moving around almost on a day to day basis.
Speaker 2: All yeah, you need you needed to win that game yesterday.
Speaker 12: You did not need to lose and be behind by
sixteen points or whatever the number was when that happened.
You're a half game from the seven seed Wolves. Well,
there's three team five to sixty seven or all half
game behind you and tied, and then you're two and
a half behind Spurs in the two spot. Crazy. This
is exactly like it was a year ago. I know,
it's like it's been every year for like twenty years.
Speaker 2: Are you on pace?
Speaker 15: Guy?
Speaker 19: Sure?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 12: What are they on pace for? Fifty fifty two wins?
Fifty two wins? You know when they got that last year?
Fifty two fifty two wins. Okay, it'll be different because
remember those last three games they didn't even care about
because they put players in there for him. Yeah, Rockets
to the four seed. They are a game and a
half out of the three. They're half out of the
five where they had the tiberak against the Lakers. Uh,
they have the timebreak against Phoenix. It would have to
take the Lakers and Phoenix to have at least a
one game lead on those two two before the Rockets
to fall down to six. Every game gonna matter in
minnesot They got a tiberager for Minnesota too, the all
the time breaker and they tiebreaker for Golden State.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 12: They do not have the tiebreaker over the Sacramento Kings.
But actually that shouldn't matter. That hurt a little bit there. Yeah,
all right, little nickey Sey, we come back.
Speaker 5: Okay, good.
Speaker 12: Plus we got a you just also on the one
o'clock hor we've not talked about that Baseball Hall of
Fame att a two members. Yes, I meant to mention
that in the news at noon, but we were just,
you know, got so much we're chock full.
Speaker 2: We'll save it for the one o'clock hour. No, actually,
but I want your opinion on those guys. We'll do
it real quick. One come back, Okay, we'll save Nikki
se I swared gout one o'clock. Yes they are.
Speaker 12: And angeln Dall ninety two point five Altitude Sports gonna
join ROSSI at one twenty to give us a perspective
what's going on with Denver and whether or not Jared
Stinham could lead the Patriots or the Broncos to the
a FC championship. Ross all right, two new memories of
Baseball's Hall of Fame are in We all have a
also a signing today by the New York Yankee Spending
some money today.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 12: Cody Bellinger, according to Jeff Passing, douche with the New
York Yankees for five years and one hundred and sixty
two and a half million dollars. Sources tell ESPN opt
outs after the second and third season, a twenty million
dollars signing bonus and full no trade clause codes. Cody
Bellinger is a New York Cody.
Speaker 2: Good for them.
Speaker 12: I mean, I was hoping that all the stars ago
to the National League, but we had to keep one
in the American League.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 12: Hall of Famers, yes, announced yesterday Carlos Beltron Andrew Jones
into the Baseball Hall of Fame. I think Beltron was
probably more of a given than Jones was, but both
got in. Yeah, Jones had been climbing up the list.
Where do you come up? Where do you come down?
On both of them? Let's start with Beltran. Okay, Beltron,
the cheater, cheeter. Jose al Tuova is like, this is
great news. Yeah, they didn't seem to carry the nude.
Was the mastermind?
Speaker 2: Yep? Hello?
Speaker 12: Yeah, nine time All Star, three time Gold Glover, Rookie
of the Year, two time Silver Slugger, four and thirty
five home runs, career ops eight thirty seven.
Speaker 2: It's getting easier to get in. It just is.
Speaker 5: It just is.
Speaker 12: Feeling hall of very very very good.
Speaker 2: Feels like a not I'm not calling it a fringe case.
Speaker 26: And it is like a.
Speaker 12: Eighty four point two percent of the vote up from
seventy percent lash.
Speaker 2: Does a New York tie have a lot to do
with it or something to do with it? I would
say yes.
Speaker 12: Probably doesn't hurt that he was with the Mets and
then the Yankees as he masterminded their cheating scandal broad
to Houston, as he was on that team in twenty
fifteen and sixteen where they got the That was the
the Yankees letter from the commissioner. Briefly, of course, he
is he going in as the Houston Astro? Uh No,
I think he's going in, he said as a Met. Okay,
I covered his very first astrosk game. He was in
Kansas City, got traded to UH Houston and the Astros
were playing in Arlington, and my boss at the time said,
get in the car and go up there and cover
the game.
Speaker 21: So I did.
Speaker 2: I thought that was big news when he was traded,
Huge news, huge, huge, huge news. Do you recall any
of the pieces that went out for the for the Astros.
I didn't. I just looked it up, though. Can you
tell me the names?
Speaker 12: And I go, I remember that. I mean, I take
the hotel, went to the A's. It was a three
team trade. Okay, John bucked and cashed the Royals. Sock
was a catcher and that's it. Okay, didn't hurt short
term deal though. Okay, Andrew Jones, Now you gotta give
me the number one here. You give me his career numbers.
Five time All Star, good, ten time gold Glover. That's
really really that's you know it. To me, that's more
impressive than a five time All Star, eight twenty three ohps,
really really good.
Speaker 2: It's good, and four and thirty four homers.
Speaker 12: Do you it sounds like, I mean, you want a
guy with an ops of like eight seventy five or higher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think with.
Speaker 12: The ten gold gloves even though I mean he was
basically done. He was basically done when he was like
thirty two and by the way, part of a dominant
decade of Atlanta Breay baseball.
Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 12: Would say Andrew Jones, I would put in before beltran
I would have gone the opposite, but I will to
the bigger picture. If he's getting in, that means there
will not be any issues with jose Al Twove getting
into Baseball's Hall of Fame. I wouldn't think so. First ballot, Yes, woo,
you know what.
Speaker 2: I want you to be right? Put my name on it.
Speaker 23: Oh God, I like it.
Speaker 12: He's gonna because again, this is not the court of
public opinion. It's the court of I could help establish
baseball with at least some common sense. I want you
to be right. I really want you to be right.
Hopefully many of the old fogies have died off by
the time that he he comes up.
Speaker 2: For a vote.
Speaker 12: George Springer, Yes or no. Ultimately, he just had a
great I mean the book is still written. I would
have said probably not before that great season. He just
he needs two more seasons of excellence. He's like thirty
five or something. Yeah, I Korea, Kreya No, Nope, Fragman,
George Springer, Bregman TVD. But probably not four time All Star, No,
No one, George. I guess again, it's not an indictment
against how good the twenty seventeen was.
Speaker 2: But you're gonna get one. Hall of Famer.
Speaker 12: George is looking like a No, he's got a better
ops plus than both Andrew Jones and Carlos Springer needs
a couple more years. It's only two hundred and ninety
three home runs. And he also got started very late too,
as we know he yeah, yeah, the Astros didn't call
him up until he was thirty six. Actually, I almost
believe you for a second. I believe he came in
when his first at bat wearing walking with a cane
super two hit a back brace one. All right, uh, Caserio, Yes,
checking in on Denver?
Speaker 2: Checking in?
Speaker 12: Yeah, anything else going on in the final hour of
the show, We'll figure it out, all.
Speaker 2: Right, all of your calls, Let's let's fold the phone
lines up. Seven is The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
Speaker 12: One four pm here on Sports Talk seven ie of
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas.
Speaker 2: For the rest of this hour.
Speaker 12: He is out traveling with the Houston Rockets as they
have the day off today, but they are flying out
eastward to take on the Philadelphia seventy six ers tomorrow,
and then it'll be a back to back in Detroit
and then Matt will be back, and by the way,
I haven't mentioned this, and we should have on the
show earlier. Matt will be back in time for Astros
fan Fest. I mean penning some crazy weather, which it
shouldn't be by Saturday, at least by the latest weather
projections that I've seen. We're gonna be out at Astros
fan Fest coming up this Saturday. It starts at eleven
am with Adam Wexler and Dan Matthews, and then myself
and Matt Thomas will be joining the broadcast at one
point thirty. We're gonna be on until four o'clock. So
if you're gonna go out to FanFest, make sure you
come by and say hi. And if you just want
to listen, we always have great player interviews. We normally
get on Jo Aspada and or Dana Brown. Don't have
the schedule in front of me right now, but normally
get some players as well. And people who know those
are the listeners out there, you know that one of
the best places to come by and be close and
see the players, get a glimpse of the guys, potentially
even get a picture here and there. Depending I'm not
going to promise that, but if if you want to
see up close and personal a lot of the Astros players, coaches,
managers and all that type of stuff. Make sure you
come by see us of the Astros fan Fest. Uh
normally in the left field concourse area by the escalators.
So make sure you come by Astros FanFest. Say hello,
we're gonna be there eleven am to four pm here
on Sports Talk seven ninety. I want to say, this
is like my seventh or eighth year doing this, so
excited for Astros fan Fest. Always one of the better
times of the year. So make sure you check that out.
All right, we're here with you. We'll have Andy Lindahl
in a minute coming up here Altitude Sports talking about
the Denver Broncos and the AFC Championship game. In the meantime,
you guys can get in seven to one three two
one two five seven ninety is the phone number to
get in seven to one three two one two five
seven ninety, as promised Nick Case earlier today if you missed.
At ten am, he had his press conference at the
end of the season. A lot of things to cover,
of course, not the season that the Houston Texans wanted,
and a lot of question marks right now with what's
going to happen with the offensive line, what is going
on with Joe Mix and Nick Cayley is he possibly
going to be coming back? So we're going to cover
a number of those topics right here. Let's go ahead
and start with Uh, this was the interesting one that
Now I have a bet and I'm gonna want to
play this. I'm gonna want to hear from you, Jonathan,
because Matt and I have a bet. I have the
field he has. Joe Mixon shot himself in the foot.
Here's Nick Cassario asked about what really happened with Joe Mixon.
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything off the field.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like he was riding like a snowmobile or
anything like that. I'd say it was just more of
a medical condition or situation that just we never It
really didn't improve, maybe as much as everybody would have hoped.
I mean, I'm not trying to like evade the question.
I think that's the reality the situation. So like he
didn't jump off a building, Like he wasn't cliff diving
or anything like that. He wasn't doing anything irresponsible. It
was just it was a freak thing. Honestly, I've never
seen it. You know, it's just the condition.
Speaker 2: It's a freak thing.
Speaker 12: Honestly, I've never seen it the condition, but also says
he didn't do anything irresponsible. So should I should I
be feeling confident that I'm gonna be able to win
the bet that he did Joe Mixon did not, in
fact shoot himself in the foot with a firearm. Yeah,
I mean, I yeah, I think you're gonna win. You
give me your honest feelings, Jonathan. I'm gonna make Matt
buy you some coffee too if I lose.
Speaker 7: To be honest, it seems I'm you might be right,
because it just seems like he's avoiding the hippolaws and
all this stuff, and he probably doesn't listen something more
about the saple thing, and he can't say anything. He's
gonna be some kind of medical malpractice lawsuit or something
like that, something that's very like that's the only thing
you can think of what's personal that you can't report
to the media. They dropped a bag of screws in
his foot, and so did it back up. They didn't
put him in correct, they left a scalpel in there.
I don't know what's going on with Joe Mixon. This
is such a weird, dodgy situation.
Speaker 12: But okay, I'm feeling more confident after those comments from
Nick Cassario. So we'll see what happens between the bet
myself and Map, But more pressing matters to get to
as well. I mean, one of the things we talked
about running game has been bad. We talked about Woody
Marks and kind of just being a guy. That's something
that they're going to have to address at some point,
whether it be being bringing Joe Mixon back, which I
would highly doubt, drafting, somebody signing something, somebody trading, doing
anything to improve the run game because your running back
room is not very good right now. It's Nick Chubb
who's had multiple horrible knee injuries, Woody Marks who can
improve and get better. But to me, you're just not
seeing a whole lot of explosiveness. If you're looking at
a position where oftentimes guys can hit the ground running
and thrive in their rookie years. Running back is one
of those and you haven't seen it with with Arianti Ersi,
it's ready. We can kind of see and hopefully he
can grow and improve gets stronger with quarterbacks, of course
that could be a multi year deal normally not the
case with running backs, although there can be some fluctuations.
But I'm just not super high on the ceiling of
Woody Marx. But as far as Nick Cayley, the offensive coordinator,
much beligned by many of the fan base, I think
he got better as the season got along. I thought
that a lot of the play calls were much better.
I like the integration of the the Cad Stover push
push stuff in short yardage situations where you were struggling,
they found a good solution there. Sometimes, Okay, oftentimes the
red zone offense wasn't exactly where you wanted it to be.
But I think for the most part, execution and with CJ.
Stroud throwing the ball up in the air and protections
breaking down, that was the bigger problem, especially later in
the season, rather than the play calling. Here's what Nick
Cassario had to say about Nick Cayley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3: Anticipate Nick be in here next year. Nick learned a lot,
you know, first opportunities to play caller. I'd say offensively,
probably the last two to three months of the year,
played pretty good football and did a lot of good things.
So there was growth and improvement. There's always areas that
we can improve and get better.
Speaker 2: And that's what I mean. Deniko mentioned the other day.
Speaker 3: This first next couple of weeks right after the season
is kind of looking at everything, go through, you know,
the coaching staff, go through other aspects of the staff.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that we have to do?
Speaker 3: All right, then we'll look at some things schematically, start
to go through the self scout, try to figure out,
all right, what are some of the things that we
did well?
Speaker 2: All right, there you go.
Speaker 12: So basically the headliner there what he said at the beginning,
I would anticipate Nick Cayley being back. He didn't say
for sure. Wasn't a massive vote of confidence. Who knows
that they're talking to any of the other candidates out
there trying to figure something out. But Nick Cayley probably
going to be back, And that's what I would expect.
Speaker 2: Honestly.
Speaker 12: I know you wanted to go big game hunting with
a Mike McDaniel or somebody else, But Nick Cayley, you
can be better. You get them some good players. That's
what it comes down to me the bottom line, get
good enough players. You could probably win with Nick Kayley
as your offensive coordinator. Okay, a couple of other things
to get to, but Biscuit has rung in. We didn't
get Biscuit. Biscuit, you're on hold earlier. We didn't get
to you, did we No, sir, Okay, just making sure
go ahead, Biscuit and and Ross, you could.
Speaker 5: Help me with this man because and that was by
the way, that was great radio.
Speaker 21: Man that press conference.
Speaker 15: He had to do that.
Speaker 5: Then it was good to hear you know, the whole
you know conference.
Speaker 22: You don't get sound bites, you can get all the
context and everything and my takeaway from it, Ross, and
you can correct me if I'm wrong, But it seemed
like he was blaming everything on execution and not much
on personnel.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and well the personnel has to execute, I guess,
so one can lend itself to the other.
Speaker 5: Right, But.
Speaker 22: I was at the conference, I would ask, oh, so
what do you stand on the person versus execution? Dude,
which one do you think you need to improve the
most in? That's what I would ask, because it seemed
like he's saying this execution but for me, let me
just say this Ross. For me, the thing that made
me raise my eyebrows. Is when he talked about the
wide receiver room right now, you can look it up.
He seemed to act like they got one of the
top ten wide receiver rooms.
Speaker 5: In the league.
Speaker 22: And I'm like, no, no, that's not the case. Man, y'all,
what where is the We know Nico's number one, the
number two receiver.
Speaker 15: How many receptions did they get this year? Uh?
Speaker 12: Jaden Higgins, I don't think he had a bunch, but
he started to factor in a lot more as the
as the season went along. I mean, you're you're talking
about somebody who was a second round pick, a high
second round pick, So I mean with a wide receiver,
you're not always going to get an instant, immediate impact.
It took a couple of years for Nico Collins really
to get better. He was a third round pick. Forty
one catches, five hundred and twenty five yards, six touchdowns.
Speaker 22: That's not good enough.
Speaker 2: It's not bad.
Speaker 12: It's not horrible for a guy who started to come
along as this as the season went along and wasn't
doing much early on in the season.
Speaker 22: If that's your one b you know what I mean?
Were looking at teams that got t Higgins.
Speaker 12: And this, and yeah you're Jamar chan It's not gonna
be Jamar Chase and T Higgins situation. I mean maybe
it can be uh Collins in Higgins situation, but you
also had Dalton Schultz Jalen Noile doesn't really provide you much.
I mean, Hutchinson is is like he's the best. I
always keep jokingly saying he's the best WR four in
the league. But Christian Kirk is decent. It's not terrible,
but it could be better. And you're hoping for the
the uh, I don't know what the what kind of
rankings are you looking for exactly? Because I mean the
passing yards weren't there with C. J. Stroud and Davis Mills.
Speaker 22: Okay, but do they they don't. Do they rank the
receiving group. They don't rank them like that in a
pro football.
Speaker 5: Yeah, weakly.
Speaker 2: Preseason rankings. I don't know if they did that as
the season went along. I can look.
Speaker 22: My point I'm trying to make ross is you can't
if you think it's if you go into this off
season thinking, man, we're good at this and good at that.
We just need to play a little better and not
turn the ball over. Man, you're fooling yourself. Man, them
receivers is not They're not scaring nobody right other than
Nico and shows to a certain extent, you've got to
get better to receiving corps. You got to get better
the O line in the guarden center positions. That's, to me,
is where it's at. If you gonna get better in
those areas, you I mean, you're going to smoke up
in that the defense covered over a lot of stuff.
You're going you know, I don't think you can think
you can advance far in the playoffs with those position
groups not being better.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I gotta get to a break, biscuit. I
appreciate you, and yeah, we know that I brought this up.
This again will go to Pro Football Focus. It's one
data point. It's not end all, be all, but I
was bringing this up. If you looked at the teams
that made the Divisional round, right that's eight teams. This
is where their offensive lines were ranked. Broncos first, Bears, third, Rams, fourth,
San Francisco forty nine, Ers fifth, Buffalo Bill's sixth. That's
five of the top six right there. In the Divisional round.
New England eleventh, Seattle fifteenth. Seven out of the eight
teams were in the top fifteen. The Texans were twenty seventh,
and Trent Brown didn't play in the divisional round. Offensive
line just by this one stat directly correlates with team success.
It's not rocket science there. Texans offensive line needs to
be better. Nick Cassario spoke about that. We'll get to
that later on in the show, but right now we
got to take break. When we come back, Andy Lindall
of Altitude Sports in Denver talking about those Broncos what
kind of shot do they have against the Patriots and
the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that next here on the Matt Thomas
Show with Ross.
Speaker 12: The Big Boys man is correct.
Speaker 2: It is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
Speaker 12: Here on Sports Talk seven to ninety Matt Thomas ducking
out early traveling with the Houston Rockets, and right now
we are pleased to be joined by Andy Lindall of
Altitude Sports in Denver, where we're gonna do some Broncos talk,
not necessarily some Nuggets talk after what happened last night, Andy,
so for forgive me for not talking some Nuggets, but
the Denver Broncos team a lot of questions, a lot
of different angles to go to. But before we, of
course get to the elephant in the room and Jared's
did him, I just wanted to start talking about the
Broncos and especially in this Sean Payton era. How do
you feel the feeling in Denver from where you started
with the Russell Wilson era to right now the perception
of him as a coach at the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 5: Oh well, I mean, look, it's been a wild ride.
Speaker 17: I thought they were crazy for doing what they did
with Russell Wilson, observing that kind of cap hit with
what we thought this roster needed.
Speaker 5: But look it's worked out.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 17: And I would never have predicted we were kind of
talking about this yesterday, I would never have predicted they'd
have been here after that, you know, two years after
the Russell Wilson cut an email that eighty four million
of dead money b I never thought Dance Joseph would
be in the middle of this, especially as a guy
that was the team's head coach during the disastrous ten
years between these playoff appearances and wins, or that he
would have come back as a defensive coordinator that Garrett
Bowles would have turned into the player that he was,
because that was a guy that the left tackle was
a guy we wanted to run out of town quite honestly,
all the way up to about twenty twenty one, because
he just could not quit holding people and just didn't
seem like he was ever going to figure it out.
So a lot of great stories. The fans liked Sean
a lot well. For the most part, Day Sean, as
you've probably seen and had a viral clip last week
where he was giving a young reporter from the Denver
Post gruff at least that's who he was talking to,
and he said, what do you know about getting downhill?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 17: He still comes off as a bit of a bully.
He's definitely an old school coach. I know you've had
a few of them there in Houston. But look, he's winning,
and you know, fans love winning, and that's all that matters.
Speaker 12: Yeah, as long as you're winning, you can talk about
just about anyone you want. But that's also one thing
that can kind of wear thin on people because once
the winning stops, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Speaker 17: No, you're right, I trust me. There's some fans that
really don't like when he talks to people that way.
You know, I was a sideline reporter for the last
Super Bowl that they did. I did that job for
twelve years and got to know quite a few people
in the building. Now, with the Penners coming in and
taking over and re establishing, a lot of the bulling
people that I knew have since moved on. Sean can
be a bit of a bully even behind the scenes,
and so don't always love that. But whatever, Again, they're
winning right now, and as you said, as long as
they're winning, people are willing to put up.
Speaker 2: With a lot.
Speaker 12: Andy Lindall with us here on Sports Talk seven ninety
of the Altitude Sports in Denver. So we know that
they are winning, Tell me why are they winning? What
is the I mean, we know the offensive line is great,
we know the defense has been pretty good. What do
you think in your mind the Denver Broncos as the
number one seed, What is the biggest reason that they
have been winning the way they have?
Speaker 17: Well, I'd say through on a few Houston Texans games,
and you'll know the reason. It's defense, right, Their defense
gets after people. It's an uncomfortable environment when you're playing them.
Quite honestly, my prediction was we would be doing an
AFC Champion preview with you guys, you know this week,
because I really thought Houston's defense was gonna be the
reason why you moved on and not the Patriots, because
I just especially after being up close for the twenty
fifteen for the Denver Broncos and it was at the
Super Bowl where the Legion of Boom took apart the
greatest offense statistically we've seen in history. I believe in
defense in the playoffs. So their defense has been the reason.
You know, Josh Allen and the Bills have not turned
the ball over in like two years in their playoff games.
It was like twenty twenty two where I think it
was early twenty three the last time they had and
then they had the four or five turnovers. Yet you know,
this past weekend and Josh just made some really weird,
stupid decisions and you know, that's what a pass rush does.
And I know Houston got a lot of turnovers in
their game this past weekend up in New England. So
it's really about the defense. And I will say this,
when you watch bone Knicks for the balance of a game,
you're probably not really impressed with him.
Speaker 5: But the one thing that bon Nicks does really really well.
Speaker 17: He may be one of the top five clutch end
of game quarterbacks playing right now. That kid so many times,
you know, whether it was the improbable Giants comeback where
he just went nuts in the fourth quarter or what
they did on the national game against Philly coming back
from seventeen down to win that one, you know, he
went and how to drive. He played a terrible second half,
terrible second half, hoping at receivers feet and overthrowing people
and looking genuinely uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: But Buffalo left the door open. All they needed was
a couple of plays to go get a touchdown eventually
a field goal. And that's what Bo does. And I
can't explain it. I don't know what happens.
Speaker 17: I think it's in partant because Shawn's got to, you know,
shrink down the play sheet, and defenses don't play for
whatever reason, no matter what history teaches them, they don't
play the same way the last two minutes a game
that they typically do during the rest of the game.
Speaker 5: And when you do that to Bo, Bonick's gonna use.
Speaker 17: His feet and gets a lot of comfortable looks and
he just finds a way to get the points he
needs to win.
Speaker 5: And it's been kind of amazing to watch.
Speaker 12: Yeah, unfortunately getting hurt at the end of the game.
Has there been any hindsight talking Denver about him not
even being on the field to kneel it down, which
some teams I guess it can go to a backup
quarterback situation. There has that been talked about it all?
Speaker 17: Not really because he did, you know, so Sean, I don't.
I think Sean Sean kind of misspoke when he talked
about it. The play they finally revealed was the one
where he tried to run. I don't know how locked
anybody in there was, but he got tackled and the
foot got yanked and that's where it happened. So he
actually threw the ball that caused the controversial and buffalo
anyway passing Interfarans call that moved him into field goal position.
Speaker 5: He did that throw on the broken ankle.
Speaker 17: Believe it okay, So I'm not even sure the coaching
staff was fully aware how much discomfort he was in
because of the play where he actually got hurt. He
hops up and runs back to the huddle, and I
guess in the huddle, as people told the story, is
where he started to realize something doesn't feel right in
my ankle. And then after the throw that drew the PI,
that's when he really knew there was an issue. And
then by the time he limps off after the kneel down,
because honestly, I thought he got stepped on on the
kneel down the way Sean described it, because he ran
to the middle of the field and just like you
kind of described it there, he had a bit of
a funky kneel down that did not look like your
typical kneel down as they think. He tried to get
the hurt leg out of the way, okay, and then
he lips off. And then the crazy thing is he
stood there with Tracy Wolfson and did the interview and
I didn't realize he was hurt.
Speaker 2: So got the adrenaline going.
Speaker 12: That's it's a powerful drug, there, Andy Andy Lindall with
us here on Sports Talk seven ninety altitude Sports. So
obviously going to Jared'stnham, expectations from you and and of
course importantly how much help can he get from his
friends from the receiving corps and from RJ.
Speaker 2: Harvey in the run game.
Speaker 5: Well, you just sit on the major question there. You know.
Speaker 17: Look, bone Nicks, even on his good days, bone Nicks
is more of a system guy than a Josh Allen type,
right that's going to run around and make incredible things happen.
Speaker 5: You know, Look in that game last week, he had
receivers drop.
Speaker 17: A couple of passes they shouldn't and I thought that
might ultimately be the reason why they lost instead of one.
Speaker 5: So these guys, you know.
Speaker 17: Now, one of the guys that we were really starting
to get excited about was Pat Bryant, the rookie that
did three early catches in that game the other day,
and they went out with a concussion.
Speaker 5: And now that that's like two concussions in a month.
Speaker 17: So I don't know if a lot of us are
feeling terribly confident he'll be back out there, but they're
definitely gonna have to help him.
Speaker 5: JK.
Speaker 17: Dobbins, you know they're calling it a mid foot spring.
If you've been around football long enough, that's also French.
For Liz Frank, that's basically what he's dealing with. And
I know a lot of people that are very very
skeptical that JK. Dobbins, despite some positive reports and maybe
even him dressing, is gonna be anywhere near close to
himself now if he were in the game, if he
could have been what he's been in the middle of
the season, he was kind of their closer.
Speaker 5: He was the real force on offense.
Speaker 17: He was the untalked about element, and then he got
that game hurt against the Chargers and or got the
foot hurt against I think it was the Chargers, maybe
it was a Raiders, whatever it was, they just haven't
been the same offense because Shawn doesn't like to run
the football, and you've got to let him trust you to.
Speaker 5: Run the football.
Speaker 17: And both the backs McLoughlin and Dobbin or Barvey had
fumbles last week, so that always gets Shawn's mistrust up. Look,
they're gonna have to run the football. They're gonna have
to find a way to not let the Patriots just
tee off on Stidham. Stidham has not played a game
or thrown a pass in two years. He's been in
there to kneel the ball down at the end of
a half.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 17: He's not had to dissect the defense in two years.
I do think it can be done again. I would
point to a Davis Mills that led to some surprising
victories for you guys. But again, we're talking about the
AFC Championship. We're talking about a defense. And I know
there was some tape out there after the Houston game
where some of the Houston guys admitted they probably didn't
know what they were looking at and some of the coverages,
and then Rabel and his DC really really fooled the
young guy there at times Stroud and so I don't
have any doubts he can do it to Jerry Stindham
as well.
Speaker 5: This defense is.
Speaker 17: Probably gonna have to cause a turnover and maybe even
score their own points if this thing is gonna get done.
I think it can get done because they're in Denver.
But I'm not so sure I'd be putting money down
on it if it does feel like a tall ten
ask you know when you're talking about the afcg cash.
Speaker 12: But I imagine you're I mean, there are name I
mean we can point to examples. You can have been
a lot of Nick Foles and Jim Plunkett and Jeff
Hostetler talking Denver this week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, we broke it out.
Speaker 17: My buddy name that I do, the guy do the
radio show with, is really good about going in and
looking at the history. Here's the name we probably all
should be quoting. And you probably remember this from a
couple of years ago. It's Taylor Heineke for the Commanders,
or maybe even then they might have still been football team.
But he actually came in, had a day through for
three hundred yards. Blah blah blah. Scott Zolac, we had
him on the show yesterday backup quarterback in New England
and he had to go into a playoff game and
he told us he got on a heater when he
entered the game. But see the problem is, I can't
remember about Heineke for sure, but I know Zolac got
to go in cold. The Patriots are, you know, preparing
for Stidham, right, and they know Stidham very well, so
it's not like you just get to go in there
in surprise. Now I will say this, I think Sean
will probably get himself a half because Stidham does like
we saw this in camp. Stidham is gonna test to
test the deeper thirds of the field more than Bo
will and will work out.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 17: But the Patriots can't just go off of their six
you know, their six weeks of game tape or whatever
they like to go back to to look at this
offense because Stidham will run it differently. The problem is,
the last time I watched Jared Stidham playing a regular
season game, at the end of that famous Russell Wilson season,
he had a lot of trouble hitting guys in strides.
Speaker 5: So is that solved? I don't know. Man, He's had
accuracy issues. It's one of the.
Speaker 17: Reasons why despite the beautiful mind to be a starter,
the physical ability isn't always there. And again, you know
the reality and we keep trying to keep reality and
check here in Denver. Yes, I think Stidham can do it,
but we're also talking about a guy that Sean Payton
looks he overdrafted Bo Nicks, even though as good as
Nicks has been, they took him went to twelfth pick.
I don't know that he's totally been twelve pick worthy
because there's a lot of games where you're just like,
my gosh, is this offense ever gonna get out of
the mud. But that's how much Sean wanted another option
other than just Jared Stidham that year. So look, it
is gonna be what it's gonna be, right, and hopefully
the Denver defense shows up and confuses Drake May the
way the Houston defense did. I don't have to tell you,
guys the value of a team that can both rush
the passer and cover. You've got Stingley, We've got Sertan.
You know, you hopefully will be able to put those
guys to work and it leads to something good. But again,
I just think Denver fans did also wake up to
realize that that we're asking a lot of a backup
quarterback to come in and win the AFC Championship. Now,
when they went in twenty fifteen with Peyton Manning again
there for that game that Broncos came out, they.
Speaker 5: Got a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 17: Owen Daniel, the old Houston Texan tight end, was the
guy that caught a couple from Peyton. They got up
and then they held on in the second half. If
you can fool the Patriots with whatever new wrinkles you're
gonna put in for them for at least a half
and get a lead, hopefully.
Speaker 5: The noise and the defense can take over and that's
how they get it done.
Speaker 12: All right, Andy, you know, before we get you out,
I will just ask you a feeling of how it
plays out.
Speaker 17: You know, Look, I've grown up here, so the homer
in me wants to believe the ghosts of my eyes.
Speaker 2: Well, it's all right, it's we're in Houston. We're not
gonna call you on it.
Speaker 15: Nah.
Speaker 5: You know, look again, I've been doing this job for
twenty five years.
Speaker 21: You know it is.
Speaker 17: You gotta divorce yourself from the fandom. Listen to Patriots
and the number two seed for a reason. If it
wasn't for a stupid early loss to the Raiders of
all things the beginning of the year. That was the
tiebreaker that swung the Broncos to get this as the
home game.
Speaker 5: Drake May is playing like an MVP. Honestly.
Speaker 17: The Denver defense has been good, but not quite to
the elite level it was when Houston played them because
they're missing safety Brandon Jones. If they had JK. Dobbins,
I would say this is all still possible. But my
gut tells me the Patriots are probably gonna be too
much on Sunday and that they'll be the ones moving on.
Speaker 12: All right, there you go, Andy Lindall, Altitude Sports in Denver.
Appreciate the time, and we'll talk to you down the road.
Speaker 17: You guys, take care of Maybe we'll talk some NBA
playoffs here in a come.
Speaker 12: Absolutely it could be some big matchups coming up, Rockets
and Nuggets.
Speaker 21: I like that.
Speaker 5: I like very well.
Speaker 12: Could be all right, appreciate it, Andy, take all right,
There we go, Andy Lindall, Altitude Sports here on Sports
Talk seven.
Speaker 2: I all right, way over for a break.
Speaker 12: But that was some good stuff on the Denver Broncos
and the matchup against the Patriots and the AFC Championship game.
Quick break here on Sports Talk seven ninety The Matt
Thomas Show with Ross. When we come back, more from
Nick Cassario. What did he have to say about addressing
the offensive line? You'll hear that next. That's right, we're
guaranteed humans, none of that AI stuff. Are you a human?
Speaker 2: Jonathan? What do you think? Baby? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Are you AI? I don't know.
Speaker 12: I'm confused a little bit scared. Welcome back to The
Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Fold Lines open at seven
to one three, two, one, two, five seven. All right,
short segment here we did go long with Andy Lindall
of Altitude Sports talking about some Denver Bronco's action. But
I do want to get to you guys real quick,
so let's go ahead and do it. Appreciate you getting
on the line. Kenny in downtown.
Speaker 2: What's up, Hey, Ross?
Speaker 18: Is Matt already gone?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He left?
Speaker 19: Hey?
Speaker 18: So you know I'm a long time listen I've listened
since the exception. I want to talk about two things.
You know, I'm always a day behind because I always
listen on the iHeart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgive you.
Speaker 18: I haven't even listened today's show. So last night when
I was driving home from work, you were talking about
Indiana and you know, you mentioned about their nil and
I'm like, well, Texas spent twice as much. Am spent
more than twice as much, huh, and they did nothing,
ain't done, got blown out. Texas did him make the playoffs.
And I think the difference is, and you're not gonna
like it, but it's the players. The players and the coaches.
They picked the right players, they had the right coaches
and the right culture. Texas hasn't had that in twenty
years playing and simple, I'm sorry, they get all these
five stars and they turn into one stars after a year.
Speaker 12: That's not nas that's not true. They made the semifinals
for a couple of years. They were nine to three
with the Florida loss was bad, but the other losses
were to what Georgia and Ohio State, So I mean,
it's not like they had a bad season. They've had
a lot of players coming up in the last couple
of drafts. That to me is the biggest How is
your program doing? Are you getting a lot of draft picks?
And for years, for the last decade plus, there were
hard There were times that there are hardly any draft
picks for the Houston for the Texas long Horns. But
now they're getting a lot of more draft picks. That
shows me that they are developing players and getting the respect.
They have not gotten over the hump yet with Steve Sarkisian,
but they've made the semifinals twice. And I don't think
there is some kind of culture issue right there with
the program right now.
Speaker 18: I listen to you every day and I don't think
you're a big so Kean fan. Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 12: I think he's I think you can win with Steve Sarkisian.
I don't think he's the greatest coach of all time,
but I think if you get him enough players, he's
a good play caller and you can win with him.
I don't think he's some footballing genius so, and I
think that goes for a lot of these coaches. I
keep on bringing up Ryan Day with Ohio State, like
if they didn't have a twelve team playoff, he might
have gotten let go before winning the championship last year
because they were a six seed and they lost to
Michigan again. Joey McGuire I bring up.
Speaker 2: With Texas Tech. Was Joey McGuire some footballing genius or
you know his first year at Texas Tech. No, they
got him a bunch of players and they won.
Speaker 12: So can you win with the right roster with Steve Sarkizan,
who I think is a good coach?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 12: Do I think he's an elite best coach in the
country or anything like that, No, but I think he's
at least a top ten to fifteen coach in football,
And if you get him enough players, which they have
now with Arch Manning and they're hitting the portal hard.
This is going to be an interesting upcoming season because
they are pushing all their chips in right.
Speaker 18: And I became a UTI fan this year just because
of Arch. You know, I'll probably go back to Route
and get them when Arch leaves. But I became a
fan because, you know, I like them. I like the mannings.
Speaker 17: Uh.
Speaker 18: I like how they make him stay there and go
into portal, you know, even though he rode the pond
for two years. I just like that top attitude.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 18: I hate these three or four you know schools, you
know that you got to go to because you're unhappy somewhere. Hey,
the second thing, I want to talk to you real quick.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 19: There's this thing you will.
Speaker 18: Always do and Matt sometimes picks up, but it's funny
when he does it. Yesterday he was like, Hey, it's
gonna be two degrees in Detroit and uh, I'm going
to uh pick up a gloves and a hat. And
then you chime in without missing a beat, and you
go and Scarf Shah goes no, no, you know he
doesn't catch I mean, well, he doesn't catch it.
Speaker 12: I do that to my older brothers all the time
when I say little quips and and Matt's not paying attention.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what.
Speaker 18: That's the funniest. It's the funniest thing.
Speaker 2: It's the funniest you know good, It is so funny.
Speaker 18: And like I said, you can do to day one
and sometimes he catches it. But when he doesn't catch it,
it is hilarious.
Speaker 22: But you have the look.
Speaker 12: I'm with you, Kenny, just between you and me. What
one of my favorite things on this show, because look,
you got to keep yourself entertained, especially if you know
you I work with Matt. We have a great working
relationship on with them, four hours a day, twenty hours
a week. We've been working together for now sixteen. This
is our seventeenth year working together. You got to entertain yourself,
and that is one of the things that I do.
I make these little quips or like movie references or
song references that I know he's not gonna get. But
it's like I mean, it just makes myself laugh or yeah,
saying a little thing or addendems to whatever, which he
catches all the time, stuff that I say or that
I do, but sometimes he does it. I'm with you, Kitty,
I'd rather rather than get the laugh.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 12: Outwardly it makes it. It's more entertaining sometimes for me
to make myself laugh.
Speaker 2: So thank you, Kitty.
Speaker 12: I'm glad. I'm glad you noticed. I appreciate that. All Right,
quick break here on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross It.
We will get to you next, I promise, because there
is no believe it or not today with Matt Thomas out.
But we're late again for a break, So quick break here,
final segment next ahead of the A team here on
Sports Talk seven nights. All Right, one quick note, what
did somebody do in the bathroom up here?
Speaker 2: Did you a wex?
Speaker 12: The lady's been cleaning the bathroom for like fifteen minutes
the past two breaks. I've tried to go to the
bathroom and it's been I've been trying to relieve myself
and it's just been closed off.
Speaker 2: John, Then, what are you okay? Did you do anything
over there? What's going on? Guys?
Speaker 7: I told them earlier I went to the restroom. I
going on twelve, and we got some some corporate guys
in the building and they'll come in waves, like huge waves.
And I went to the restaurroom. The backstall was messed up.
The automatically are going on, and then I looked down
the floor. Guys, it was liquid all on the I
don't know what happened. I know if someone fell into
the urine and came out with the first out. I'm
just trying to go take a pee and I can't.
That's been She's been cleaning there for like fifteen minutes.
Ain't nobody got time for y all making big messages
in his bathroom.
Speaker 2: Up here this building.
Speaker 23: Ain't nobody got time for that?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 2: Sorry, I had to get that out. What's going on?
Speaker 10: Heyyah, I's it going going?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great?
Speaker 21: What you got?
Speaker 27: I mean, listen so earlier guy wanted Kyle Deen and
Ive heard this before. They want to criticize detetions receivers,
but they obviously are not watching the same game that
I'm watching, because I see receivers open. I see c
Jen missing them, overthrowing them, underthrowing them, throwing the ball
behind them, two far in front of boy just playing
no now, not even seeing them. They throwing the ball
somewhere else or taking the sack for no reason. Like,
you can't criticize the receivers when the person in charge
of getting them. The ball is absolutely witting to be
playing it simple, people, stop looking at stat sheets.
Speaker 22: And watch the game.
Speaker 15: Watch the game.
Speaker 27: The receiving courts fine, the receiving cords good enough to win. However,
we aren't gonna win anything if CJ doesn't get his
act together. So the CZ needs to get it together
or the team needs to move on. But please stop
blaming receivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks a lot, lafail.
Speaker 12: Yeah, somebody was arguing with me about like yards per
game and stuff like, Well, the Texans didn't throw for
a whole lot of pass yards per game. It's not like,
you know, Jaydon Higgins was out there making a bunch
of drops. It's I think with Higgins, I mean, we'll
see you. I think Kirk is a free agent. I
think Noel they get. They probably could use another pass
catcher for sure, But it's not a terrible it's it's
not a terrible wide receiver corps at all for the
Houston Texans. All right, that's gonna do it for the
Matt Thomas Show with Ross here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
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