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<v Speaker 1>You're listenings KFI AM six forty. The bill handles show

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iHeartRadio f It is a Thursday Morning, December.

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<v Speaker 2>The Fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>Life continues on Oh just to quick pastapon numbers. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna do that at seven twenty

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<v Speaker 1>with Michelle and I'll give you our pasta fon numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about a topic that Neil and

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<v Speaker 1>I bring up and talk about all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the cell by dates on food. In California has

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<v Speaker 1>now banned sell by.

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<v Speaker 2>Dates on food.

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<v Speaker 1>Silver You're not going to see cell by anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>sell by dates, well, those dates don't indicate, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>when your milk goes bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I drink milk all.

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<v Speaker 1>The time a week, week and a half after sell

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<v Speaker 1>by because is still good. I mean, that's fine to

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<v Speaker 1>look at milk. You just you taste in. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>still reasonably sweet, you're okay. Now, with the exception of

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<v Speaker 1>infant formula, these date labels on food not federally regulated

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<v Speaker 1>or required. It's up to the manufactures or the state

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<v Speaker 1>to determine what labels are necessary. There's an old California

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<v Speaker 1>state law suggesting putting dated labels on foods help consumers

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<v Speaker 1>know when their food has gone bad. Well, it's confusing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's grosser focused, and it's not true. A new California

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<v Speaker 1>law requires, in an effort to reduce food waste, we

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<v Speaker 1>waste food at six million tons a year in California,

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<v Speaker 1>and this Assembly Bills six sixty, which was passed, is law,

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<v Speaker 1>although it doesn't go into effect until July one, twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a year and a half out. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>designed to bring uniformity and common sense dated food labels

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<v Speaker 1>for consumers because there's so many different days and there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many different there are acronyms and sell by used

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<v Speaker 1>by best buy, and so putting these two definitions, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now into that labeling will require grocery retailers and manufacturers

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<v Speaker 1>to make all kinds of changes. They're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to develop new inventory systems, retrain employees, figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>labels that are going to be used. Except there's only

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<v Speaker 1>going to be two, so that part is easy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there are more than fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Different phrases in food packaging, which makes it almost impossible

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<v Speaker 1>for consumers to tell exactly what each label means. There's

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<v Speaker 1>one that's kind of fun that's out there. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen this, but it is out there. One is called

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<v Speaker 1>PEB with a date which is either please enjoy by

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<v Speaker 1>or people experiencing barfing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know which one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a nonsensical phrase, probably the barfing part. A

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<v Speaker 1>policy associate at Californias Against Weights a waste. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's out there, and those fifty phrases are not even

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<v Speaker 1>used consistently among manufacturers. There's enjoy buy, and that might

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<v Speaker 1>indicate the best date for quality on one product, and

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<v Speaker 1>it can meet something completely different on another product. So

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<v Speaker 1>how the hell do you know? So the new law

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<v Speaker 1>bans food items from carrying cell by. You're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to see cell by starting July first, twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>because sell by dates don't indicate freshness or safety. They're

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<v Speaker 1>used by grossers to ensure inventory is rotated properly, especially

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<v Speaker 1>on dairy products, meats. Perishable items have no indication on

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<v Speaker 1>when your food might be spoiled. Ever, buy milk, I

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<v Speaker 1>go to Costco and buy an elk. Always reached to

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<v Speaker 1>the back of that the little line they put it

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<v Speaker 1>in there, the what do they call that?

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<v Speaker 2>You have? The different levels? You know you put God,

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<v Speaker 2>I see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it when I see it. I happened a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time describing it. Okay, there's a bunch of milk

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<v Speaker 1>bottles in front of you. You want to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the back one. Yeah, okay, yeah, we'll figure this out.

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<v Speaker 1>The back one where the date, the cell by date

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<v Speaker 1>is way way pressure because the fur you know up

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<v Speaker 1>at the front, it's a it's the cell by date

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<v Speaker 1>is newer used by is happens? You got to use

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<v Speaker 1>it now? Well, none of that works. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So the law boy, did I do a good job

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<v Speaker 1>explaining that?

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<v Speaker 2>One?

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't I and I knew exactly what I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just saying it. And I get paid for this,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I want to point that out. So

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be a couple of emaals. So the new California

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<v Speaker 1>law limits most labels to only two options. A quality

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<v Speaker 1>label best if used by because there's plenty of food

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<v Speaker 1>that loses quality but it's perfectly safe. For example, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the supermarket and the ground meat is gray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that fresh red meat, and then it's sold at.

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<v Speaker 2>A huge discount. That's perfectly safe. It just oxidizes and

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<v Speaker 1>You can eat that, which of course is way past

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<v Speaker 1>the used by date or the sell by date. And

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<v Speaker 1>so there's only two labels that will be allowed quality,

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<v Speaker 1>best if used by and safety used by. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that one boom. You got to use it, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's I think it's going to work out

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<v Speaker 1>for us because that used by, sell buy, best used

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<v Speaker 1>by and enjoy buy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really for the grossers, nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it might help well, it will help nonprofits like

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<v Speaker 1>food banks, except more non perishables because the law is there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the dates should not be or should.

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<v Speaker 1>Only be used as guidelines. We're being told that over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again, only guidelines. There are some states, or

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<v Speaker 1>for example, in Pennsylvania there's a milk labeling law that

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<v Speaker 1>requires the sell by date no more than seventeen days

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<v Speaker 1>after the milk is pasteurized straight out.

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<v Speaker 2>Not California. You know, we're making it open.

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<v Speaker 1>This makes a lot of sense, by the way, because

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<v Speaker 1>Neil when he does.

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<v Speaker 2>This show, when he does his Foody, when he has.

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<v Speaker 1>The fork report, probably the number one question he gets

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<v Speaker 1>is that question, sell by used by?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the difference?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it okay for me to continue using the product? I,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, had and I asked this of Neil. I

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<v Speaker 1>had some sour cream that expired us by October two

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<v Speaker 1>and I pulled it out the other day and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking six seven weeks and it looked fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no mold or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I took a little spoon, took a taste, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was perfectly fine. But having listened to the Fork report,

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<v Speaker 1>I called Neil knowing that he's going to go go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead as long as it's good. And he said, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding you. Seven weeks for sour cream? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you nuts? So I guess seven weeks for sour cream

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<v Speaker 1>passed used by is not a good thing. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, I'm going to bring Michelle in here because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk a little bit of the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of what we've done for Pastathon, and since Michelle really

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<v Speaker 1>puts Pastathon together every year and she has for fourteen years,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to bring in a little side baseball and

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<v Speaker 1>something that you don't know but will not surprise you.

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<v Speaker 1>And i'll talk about that coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you're listening to Bill Handle on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a Thursday morning, December fifth, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to point out that our annual pastapon the day is over,

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<v Speaker 1>except you can still donate and I'll explain.

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<v Speaker 2>To you or Michelle will.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michelle is here, who was my producer for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six years before she was promoted to executive producer, and

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<v Speaker 1>the entire station Good Morning and Pastafon happens every year

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a big deal. We broadcast at the Anaheim

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<v Speaker 1>White House, the entire station all day, every day part

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<v Speaker 1>and Michelle puts all of it together, and without her

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have happened. So before we get into how

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<v Speaker 1>this works, because I want to give a little inside

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<v Speaker 1>baseball to people, Okay, and I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a story that you probably haven't heard.

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<v Speaker 2>What are our numb right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Our numbers as of six am this morning, one million,

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and sixty, so.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at a million dollars? Yeah, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that include the numbers from Smart and Final and Wendy's.

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<v Speaker 4>It includes the Smart and Final numbers up until yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>and it includes some, not all, of the Wendy's numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, every day between now and Sunday, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>get numbers from Smart and Final and Wendy's and include

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<v Speaker 4>them daily.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so last year we just went past one point

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<v Speaker 1>three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, do I think we're going to get past that? Ye?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we pacing We're pacing ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been pacing ahead all since yesterday, every hour, we've

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<v Speaker 4>been pacing ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, we're ahead of where we were. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So a conversation you probably aren't aware of is Chris Berry,

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<v Speaker 1>who is one of the real high end management people

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<v Speaker 1>who I know is yeah, who I'm explaining who deal

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody else. Chris Berry happens to be a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who runs news talk stations across the country for iHeart,

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<v Speaker 1>who is in town, and I was having a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with him, and I talked about the urpasta fon extravaganza and.

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<v Speaker 2>How much money we raise.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, whenever a station anywhere in the country doing a

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<v Speaker 1>charity can reach two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, that

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<v Speaker 1>is considered a home run.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond home runs.

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<v Speaker 1>He has never heard of a local station having raised

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<v Speaker 1>one point three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>He was absolutely stunned.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he came out and saw a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>it early yesterday. He didn't. I was telling him to

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<v Speaker 4>follow the Instagram because he didn't see the full impact

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<v Speaker 4>of like the whole day, but it is. It's pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean we the first year we did.

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<v Speaker 4>This, we did eighty thousand dollars and three thousand pounds

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<v Speaker 4>of pasta in size.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that was fourteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now we are right now at forty tons of

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<v Speaker 1>pasta and sauce and over a million dollars and we're

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<v Speaker 1>on pacing and real quickly. Before I get into another

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<v Speaker 1>question for Michelle, you can still donate. Go to any

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<v Speaker 1>smart and final donate right there at the counter, or

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<v Speaker 1>you can buy postaen sauce right there and then tell

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<v Speaker 1>them this is for Pastathon. You go to any Wendy's

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars or more donation, you get a coupon book

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<v Speaker 1>worth a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's through Sunday night. Yeah, through Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also go to kfiam six forty dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash Pastathon and you still donate and please do all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle not only put this together, she came up with

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<v Speaker 1>this charity.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>How does an organization like Katarina's Club become part of kay?

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<v Speaker 4>So this is how it happened in nineteen ninety nine

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<v Speaker 4>on this show. We did a thing with Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 4>and Monica Lewinsky when we had the deposition that Bill

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<v Speaker 4>Clinton was doing Remember we did a play. We were

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<v Speaker 4>looking for a place to do it, and we wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to do at the Anaheim White House. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>The Anaheim White House looks like the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was ten years later. Was in twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw Bruno being interviewed on TV about how he

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<v Speaker 4>to do something bigger. And at the time, our boss

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<v Speaker 4>Robin was looking for a charity, a local charity to support,

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and that's not just due to us and our

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<v Speaker 4>amazing listeners, but over the years, I've built this relationship

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's terrific. You've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done a hell of a job. I mean this,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be your legacy for sure. And since

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<v Speaker 1>we raised one point three million dollars for Katerina's Club,

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<v Speaker 2>Go to another radio station.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know it's it's it's a twenty hour

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the logistics are astounding, and Michelle, you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only thank you for this on this behalf

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<v Speaker 1>on those of those kids, but also I just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>But then you happen to be very organized. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>That's who you are, all right, coming up an infertility crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my wheelhouse. By the way, go to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty dot com slash pastathon and we will

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<v Speaker 1>come back with this great story about infertility and is

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<v Speaker 1>it a real problem in the United States? Matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world. That my wheelhouse. So of

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<v Speaker 1>course I have stories about infertility. I made well, I

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<v Speaker 1>did it for thirty years long time. My kids are

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<v Speaker 1>part of that story, I mean all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>The police are searching for that gunman. Gunman who killed

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<v Speaker 2>And they're still looking for him. It's really really crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you happen to own some bitcoin and you

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<v Speaker 1>bought it at under a penny a bitcoin, it's now

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there is an article came out of New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times and it's I've shared this with you before, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to throw some figures at you. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get too wonky here. But the question

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<v Speaker 1>is does the US have an infertility crisis?

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is absolutely, And the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The the first world countries all do the developed countries,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are several reasons for it, and the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I love to talk about this is this is my wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>When I started in nineteen eighty doing surrogacy, which deals

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<v Speaker 1>with infertile couples where women cannot conceive and cannot conceive

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<v Speaker 1>or carry someone else carries for them a surrogate, and

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<v Speaker 1>it had to do with women being infertile, also to

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<v Speaker 1>some extent men being infertile, and even then we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the problem of infertility. Now, in my case,

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<v Speaker 1>I like infertility because the more infertile there people were

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<v Speaker 1>out there, the more business I got. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of women being paid to carry children for couples.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, with the kidding aside, you have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea of the kind of trouble I was in and

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to the Attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>General in the DA of la as to whether I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going I was going to jail paying women they under

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<v Speaker 1>the law that's called slavery. You can't buy people and

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<v Speaker 1>paying for custody of a child. That's exactly what we did.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I had no problem with surrogacy, obviously to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where I would go past pregnant women on

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<v Speaker 1>the sidewalk and I go, are you getting paid for that?

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<v Speaker 1>And if they said no, I got upset. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how dare you not get paid for being pregnant? So

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<v Speaker 1>into it in nineteen eighty and it actually started back

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the sixties. Robert Kennedy, the nominee to

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<v Speaker 1>lead the Department of Health and Human Services, hopefully not

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<v Speaker 1>asked in a September post on X and he asked

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor who was in fact consulting to him, why

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<v Speaker 1>are so many couples infertile?

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<v Speaker 2>And there are a whole bunch of reasons why that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has made a big deal saying that of infertility

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<v Speaker 1>that he would task Kennedy with investigating this decades long

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<v Speaker 1>increase in chronic health problems, including infertility and infertility for

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<v Speaker 1>many years was not considered a legitimate health problem. IVF,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, was not covered by insurance. To this day, surrogacy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is absolutely necessary for some couples to create a family,

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<v Speaker 1>is not allowed in certain states or the contract is unenforceable.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where I kind of take credit.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually don't, but California became the first state in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States to enforce surrogacy contract and I was

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<v Speaker 1>involved with that. That was my contract that was arguing

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<v Speaker 1>this is the question. The CDC measures fertility rate and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear this as because there's so many different ways

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<v Speaker 1>of doing this. The number of live births in a

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<v Speaker 1>year per one thousand women between the ages of fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>and forty four they're considered child bearing years. In twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, and that was the most recent numbers available.

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<v Speaker 1>The fertility rate, the number of live births in a

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<v Speaker 1>year per one thousand women between those ages, the fertility

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<v Speaker 2>That's a historic low.

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<v Speaker 1>That number keeps on decreasing, decreasing, decreasing. Another way researchers

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<v Speaker 1>look at fertility is something called the total fertility rate,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's looking at it both in terms of infertility

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<v Speaker 2>It's two sides of the same coin.

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<v Speaker 1>For total fertility rate estimates the average number of children

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<v Speaker 1>And you hear about one point six one point four

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty three, the total fertility rate in the

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<v Speaker 1>US was a little bit over one point six berths

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<v Speaker 1>per woman, roughly two births per woman that were documented

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and one, So it went from two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and one that was two down to one point six.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, in order to maintain a population, people

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<v Speaker 1>the reason population grows is because of immigrant population, not

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<v Speaker 1>the birth rate. If you just look at the birth rate,

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<v Speaker 1>our population is decreasing and decreasing pretty rapidly. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to come back and talk about the birth rate, which

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<v Speaker 1>is different as we look at infertility, and then maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>A story or two of Yeah, I'm gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>Reproduction and men and yeah, yeah, that's yes, Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Forty Bill Handle Here it is a Thursday morning, December

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth. Coming up top of the hour, Joel Larsgard

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<v Speaker 1>we've got still a lot of show to do. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm looking at this tree, this Christmas tree,

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, they're fighting a discrimination suit.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand that right now because there are no females

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<v Speaker 2>with all this? Huh So? In any case, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>But every year they come in and this thing fills

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a break?

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<v Speaker 1>Back we go to infertility and this is the story.

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<v Speaker 1>It came out of New York Times. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>see infertility stories, I jump all over them because this

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<v Speaker 1>My job was just to tell the joke jokes and

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<v Speaker 1>that was absolutely true, and so paying attention. Infertility has

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<v Speaker 1>Americans and other countries that developed countries world are becoming

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a bunch of different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>What is infertile, Well, it's it's fertility rate is one definition.

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<v Speaker 2>Birth rate is one.

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<v Speaker 1>The CDC looks this by assessing the number of married

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<v Speaker 1>nine having unprotected sex for at least a year without

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<v Speaker 1>getting pregnant. And there's a bunch of reasons for this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to go through them. People were having

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<v Speaker 1>kids later in life. My kids were born when I

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<v Speaker 1>was forty four. You know, uh, my wife was in

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<v Speaker 1>her forties when the kids were born. In twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>the average age which women had their first child was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven point three years. I mean, that's old to

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<v Speaker 1>have kids. Never been that old, and women over forty

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<v Speaker 1>giving birth a steadily increased.

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<v Speaker 2>Age is a big factor.

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<v Speaker 1>The older couple is, the greater the chance they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to struggle to conceive. Female fertility starts to decline at

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<v Speaker 1>about age thirty two. It really falls significantly after thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Even male infertility well not as not as much. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have these.

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<v Speaker 2>Fathers who are out there.

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<v Speaker 1>De Niro for example, al Pacino, and they're having kids

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<v Speaker 1>in their seventies because sperm is still viable. Don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>me God is not a man. When it comes to fertility,

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<v Speaker 1>Obesity impacts ovulation in women. Sexually transmitted infections have climbed

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy. And what do STDs have to do with fertility?

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<v Speaker 1>Intimately connected. STDs and fertility are connected, especially chlamydia and.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonorrhea. By the way, that was pretty obscure joke. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on. And so the harmful, harmful chemicals. The

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<v Speaker 2>other thing is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of a fun one that I always used

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<v Speaker 1>to make jokes about whenever I had a client command

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<v Speaker 1>and patient come in. And there were a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, to check out whether male infertility. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that's done is checking the male fertility

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<v Speaker 1>the sperm specimen, because that's the easiest thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things about your testicles, assuming you're

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<v Speaker 1>a male or maybe not anymore, is that testicles have

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<v Speaker 1>to be two degrees less than the body temperature, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why in the winter tremendous suck shrinkage. Your balls

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<v Speaker 1>have to move up and during the summer it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very low it's low hanging fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Do your balls hang low? Do they go

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<v Speaker 2>to and fro? You know that? And that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why men are told don't get in the jacuzzi,

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<v Speaker 1>stay away from the hot tub because it gets too hot.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are don't wear tight underwear. This is legitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way you wear briefs.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason my dad was so fertile is he wore

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<v Speaker 1>shorts and he had a gravity issue. And anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk about that because there was a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bell ringer issue to my dad and his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a different topic. We'll cover it another point.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a huge problem and people just wanting

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<v Speaker 1>kids way later and people not having kids, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was the thing when my parents when I was born,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents never even thought of do we want kids?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we not? It's just you had to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a married couple, you had to have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you didn't have kids, there was something wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's a very different animal today today. More and

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<v Speaker 1>more couples are choosing not to have kids. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>that because kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting your way?

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<v Speaker 1>You've got huge prices in terms of how has gone up,

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<v Speaker 1>food prices have gone up. And for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>that have kids, let me tell you, your life becomes kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I think there's a term that's used.

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<v Speaker 1>In psychology in terms of having kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we are done. Joel Larsgard coming right up How

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<v Speaker 1>to Money, and he does this Sundays twelve to two pm,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do do a segment, two segments every week

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<v Speaker 1>right here on Thursday kf I am six forty live

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.

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