WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.919 All right, what is going on? It's drivetime on a 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.439 Tuesday afternoon. It is sixty four degrees on Tuesday, February 3 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:14.320 the fourth in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah. Unseasonably warm. 4 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:16.640 Now it's not going to last. We have some snow 5 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:19.879 and cold weather in the forecast coming up this weekend 6 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:22.839 and into next week. But hey, a nice little reminder 7 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:24.640 that sometimes it feels good when. 8 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:27.719 The weather's warm. But as it is every day, it's good. 9 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:28.039 Out of you. 10 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:30.039 Along for the ride's fence check. It's behind the mic. 11 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:33.399 That's Porter Larson producing the program behind the Glass. 12 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:33.679 Today. 13 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:37.439 We've got a busy, busy show on the program. The 14 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.960 latest on the NBA trade deadline on Thursday. It comes 15 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:44.079 and goes, what will the Utah Jazz do? If anything? 16 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:47.479 Some conversation that I've had over the past twenty four 17 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:51.159 hours indicates the Jazz aren't done. I think John Collins 18 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:53.600 is going to be traded. And I will get into 19 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:55.320 this and I'll tell you why where I think he's 20 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:58.880 gonna go. Jazz played a game last night, entertaining game 21 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:00.880 last night against a really good team. Indiana has been 22 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:02.880 a lot better as of late. They're twelve and two, 23 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:06.079 in their last fourteen and the Jazz had them on 24 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:08.959 the ropes. It was one of the more embarrassing closing 25 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.840 games that I've seen in pro basketball this year. A 26 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:16.200 horrible Clarkson turnover, Kyante dribbling the ball through his legs 27 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:18.159 and then shooting a step back three when they needed 28 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:21.359 a bucket. So the Pacers get that win, one twelve 29 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:24.680 to one eleven. The Jazz will welcome in hopefully Stephan 30 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:27.239 Curry and the Golden State Warriors. We'll see who decides 31 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:30.120 to make that road trip coming up on Wednesday. 32 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:32.079 That game comes our way tomorrow. 33 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:36.359 Now, Utah Hockey Club and Action Tonight they are they're 34 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.599 going to welcome in the Philadelphia Flyers. It is your 35 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.040 final chance to go through the motions and pretend to 36 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:45.040 vote for the Utah Hockey Club team name Utah Outlaws, 37 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:47.959 Utah Mammoth, and Utah Hockey Club. Your three options. Seven 38 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.560 o'clock Mountain time will be when the puck drops. That 39 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:55.040 game is on ESPN, plus some data in on the 40 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:57.680 NHL as far as the ratings go. Not a lot 41 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:02.079 of people watching hockey down this year, so we'll get 42 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:04.760 to some hockey club storylines on the program. 43 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:06.280 Big game in Provo tonight. 44 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:10.520 It's not until nine o'clock, number twenty, Arizona in town 45 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:15.680 to take on BYU's won four straight games. BYU is 46 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.680 actually a favorite in this one. Vegas has BYU favored 47 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:21.680 by two and a half. Ken Palm gives BYU that 48 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:25.120 fifty two percent chance of winning the game. So big 49 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.479 college basketball game here locally. Utah State is back in 50 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.840 action after getting smoked by New Mexico over the weekend. 51 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:32.879 They're going to be in larry Me to take on Wyoming. 52 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:37.159 University of Utah men's basketball team back in action tomorrow 53 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:41.000 seven o'clock Mountain time. Colorado's in town. The women are 54 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.159 on the road to take on Texas Tech. So we'll 55 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:45.960 get to all these storylines. And of course it is 56 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:49.360 super Bowl week. It is Super Bowl Week, super Bowl 57 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:53.520 fifty nine and the big easy at the Superdome, the 58 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.520 Chiefs and the Eagles. That line has stayed steady, which 59 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.800 is so wild to me. It opened up Chiefs midest 60 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.639 one point five. It remains Chiefs midut one point five 61 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:05.840 over under his forty eight point five. Super Bowl Week 62 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.039 a lot of fun media opportunities. Listening to some of 63 00:03:08.039 --> 00:03:11.599 that stuff this morning Andy Reid was asked what his 64 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:13.960 favorite trilogy is as far as books go, and he 65 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:15.680 answered The Bible, the Book Mormon, and The Pearl of 66 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:18.080 Great Price. Folks around here are pretty excited about that. 67 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:22.240 But a lot of really fun media opportunities between now 68 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:23.159 and Sunday. 69 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:24.759 And so we'll get you ready for the super Bowl 70 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:25.280 coming up. 71 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:29.759 How about college football schedule release day? 72 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:31.599 Huh right, you guys are pumped for that. 73 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:36.960 Utah gets their football schedule. B WHYU gets their football schedule? 74 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:41.520 These two teams will play this season on October the eighteenth, 75 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:46.360 which is so dumb, it's beyond dumb. It's ridiculous. I 76 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.000 do not know why this decision was made. We will 77 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:50.639 get into it. 78 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:51.199 Of course. 79 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:54.879 This is ultimately the time where everybody is now debating 80 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:58.560 who has the harder schedule. B. Why you were Utah 81 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.719 breaking new is? Nobody knows. Arizona Day was picked to 82 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:03.919 finish sixteen in the conference last year. But we'll do 83 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:08.120 some Utah schedule release on the program today and give 84 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:12.280 you some thoughts on what I think they got right, 85 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.039 what I'm hoping they will look at a little bit 86 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:16.920 differently and just kind of go from there. I missed 87 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:18.639 the PAC twelve. I'm not going to keep doing that, 88 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:21.600 but we'll talk to Utah schedule on the program today 89 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:25.279 as well. So little NBA trade deadline, Little Jazz trade deadline. 90 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:29.600 Luka Doncic interviewed. Excuse me introduced in Los Angeles this morning. 91 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:34.519 Jimmy Butler, still Phoenix and Golden State. What could be 92 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.879 next on the landscape for the Utah Jazz. We'll get 93 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:38.759 to some Super Bowl, We'll get to some college football 94 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.759 and some college basketball on ZIP program today. So first guest, 95 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.000 right out of the gates, the voice himself, the Voice 96 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.720 Bill Riley, stops by Voice of the Utes. We'll do 97 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.959 some Utah football schedule release, we'll do some Utah basketball, 98 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:55.240 and of course we'll talk Super Bowl, Chiefs and Eagles. 99 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.639 Getting ready for Sunday. Don't forget if you have some. 100 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:00.120 Errands to run on Sunday and you can't be in 101 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.160 front of your television, make sure to keep that dial. 102 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:05.079 Tune to this station where you're home with the Super 103 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.000 Bowl this year and every year. And we've got ten 104 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.120 hours of coverage for you starting on Sunday. So super 105 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.360 Bowl can be heard right here on ESPN seven hundred. 106 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:14.360 After Bill stops by. 107 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.920 It has been a very busy seventy two hours for one. 108 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.600 Tim McMahon Band McMahon, who wrote the piece, kind of 109 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:25.279 outline outlining exactly out this went down, including that tidbit 110 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:27.600 that the Jazz didn't even know what trade they're facilitating 111 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.600 until it was too late. So Tim stops by today, 112 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.240 typically a Friday staple of ours. 113 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:34.519 But Chris Camaradnie, we're gonna get him out of his house. 114 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:37.199 Because it's sixty two degrees for a good hour with 115 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:39.079 Ck where we'll do a little bit of a deep 116 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.399 dive into the college football schedule release Dave Fox in 117 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.800 the four o'clock hours on TV with Dave. Last night 118 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.920 ten thirty five, Cam Well you Cam you five questions 119 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:48.360 with Spence. 120 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:50.639 Had a good time in that direction. 121 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:54.639 So Bill Riley, Tim McMahon, Chris Camaradnie, Dave Fox, Me, 122 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:56.519 Spence Check. Its all of you, the great listeners on 123 00:05:56.519 --> 00:06:00.199 this Tuesday. Happy Tuesday to you, Happy sixty three three 124 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.800 Tuesday in February to you and that guy port Larson 125 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:08.680 on a Tuesday Utah BYU Football October eighteenth is like nonsensical. 126 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.480 According to ESPN stats and info employed by this station, 127 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.160 namely Zach in the middays and now you in the afternoons. 128 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:19.040 The last time BYU and Utah played football in October 129 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.079 was nineteen sixty seven. 130 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.040 What are we doing here? 131 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.079 Yes, nineteen sixty seven, Spence Mike Giddings would have been 132 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:30.040 the head coach. He was at the time recruiting one 133 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:34.519 of his little league players named O. J. Simpson to 134 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:38.240 Salt Lake City. Little connection there the Jews. Yes, if 135 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.279 you go back to nineteen sixty seven, the last time 136 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.439 they played in October, I don't. I mean, they're in 137 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.120 the same conference. I don't really care whatever happened. 138 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:46.279 To the Jews. 139 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:48.959 He had a pretty quiet post football career. I always 140 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:50.879 respect people to just go and do their own thing 141 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:52.040 after they're done playing football. 142 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:52.360 Yeah. 143 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:57.079 I didn't really hear much after that, but seriously, had 144 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.000 what are we? What are we doing? What are we doing? 145 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.160 I scheduling this football game in mid October? 146 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:04.839 It's a It's different for me, but at the end 147 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:08.040 of the day, this is this is just a big 148 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:08.879 twelve matchup. 149 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.160 Listen. I I don't mind that. 150 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:13.199 Don't be that guy. 151 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:15.720 You're not building the schedule around the Holy War. I'm 152 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:16.680 just glad that it's happening. 153 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:20.160 Don't be a gen z Utah fan that vapes and 154 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.160 streams on Twitch. I don't do either of those. I 155 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.600 don't do any of those things. Don't lie you stream 156 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.279 on Twitch, I don't. I don't even play video games 157 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:28.759 or vape. 158 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:34.279 Actually, if I come in contact with nicotine, I smoke it. 159 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.560 So if I'm around of Epe, I'll hit it, but 160 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:40.360 I don't. I don't buy then, just to be honest. 161 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:43.240 Look, I understand your points. Okay, but we're in the 162 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:45.800 same conference now, it's no longer rubbing it in that 163 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:47.879 they're not in the conference. This is one of the 164 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:50.040 best rivalries in the entire country, if not. 165 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:52.439 The Big Twelve. And by the way, the game last. 166 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:54.639 Year for Big twelve fans that were unfamiliar a pretty 167 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.240 decent first Foray in a Big Twelve play. That game 168 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.879 was highly rated. It was awesome to to finish. I 169 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:03.600 think it's silly, that's just me. Yeah, I don't disagree 170 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:04.399 with you. It'll be weird. 171 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:06.839 It'll take some getting used to what team? What are 172 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:08.759 they playing on rivalry weekend? 173 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:12.600 UAH plays Kansas and the YU plays UCF. 174 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:15.680 So yeah, we're not even doing a Revelie week I guess, hey, 175 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:19.240 Rivalry Week, Spence is when you play the rivalry game. 176 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.600 So I think we're making too much a deal of it. 177 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:24.839 Rivalry Week is October eighteenth. 178 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:27.720 Now you're digging with everyone'szagging. You're trying to be impossible. 179 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:30.759 Nobody agrees with you. This is a dumb day to 180 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:31.439 play this game. 181 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.399 Well, at least today we have the Voice of the 182 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:37.600 Youths formerly known as ESPN seven hundred Bill formally Notice 183 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.759 Artists formally known as indeed, Tim McMahon, Chris com Ronnie. 184 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.399 We got the crew to discuss it all. We're going 185 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:46.360 to dig into it, okay, and we'll bring in Bill 186 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:47.240 in right off the top. 187 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:48.519 We'll see what Riles has to say. 188 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.240 But before we get the bill, courtesy of our good 189 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:53.720 friends at the ESPN seven hundred Cash Kickoff, which is here, 190 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:55.679 it's time for your shot to win one thousand dollars 191 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:58.720 in cash to pay your bills. 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So Utah will open up 203 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:34.679 against UCLA in Pasadena and then they come home for 204 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:38.279 cal Poly. September the sixth will be Utah's home opener. 205 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:41.440 They travel to Laramie to take on Wyoming. I don't 206 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.480 know if that was contractual because it feels unnecessary. And 207 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:48.720 then Big twelve play for Utah begins on September the twentieth. 208 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.919 Texas Tech rolls into town for Utah's Big twelve opener. 209 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.519 They're at West Virginia, they're home against Arizona State, They're 210 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:59.000 at Brigham Young, and then they're home against Colorado and Cincinnati, 211 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:01.360 so that you know, the stretcher really stands out. 212 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.840 A lot of random early buys for teams. 213 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.720 Utah will have a buye between West Virginia and Arizona State, 214 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:08.320 so it's good. 215 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:09.080 Did the Utes get a. 216 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.720 Buye before welcoming into defending Big twelve chance to Salt 217 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.399 Lake City. But that stretch where they go home against 218 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.519 Arizona State at BYU home against Colorado is pretty tough, 219 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.919 sandwiched around a road trip to Morgantown in a home 220 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:25.320 game against Cincinnati, and then they finish off at Baylor. 221 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:27.360 You know, Baylor really turned it on at the end 222 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:30.639 of this year. Last year, David Randa Save's job. K State, 223 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.240 who will be one of the favorites in this conference, 224 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.559 roles in a Salt Lake City that'll be a heavyweight matchup, 225 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.360 and then the final game at Kansas and Lawrence, And yes, 226 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.360 I will just be the guy that bemoans the fact 227 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:46.279 that Utah BYU is being played on October the eighteenth, 228 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.639 jam packed right in the middle of the schedule between 229 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.320 two really good teams, Arizona State and Colorado. The good 230 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.279 news is Utah doesn't leave the state between October eleventh 231 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:56.919 and November the first. 232 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:58.440 Because of Arizona State at home. 233 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.720 They're at BYU in Provo, then Colorado Cincinnati, and then 234 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:03.759 they'll finish with two of their final three on the road. 235 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.799 And so of course everybody's doing the thing today where 236 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:09.200 you try to analyze, Okay, who has the easier schedule 237 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.840 Utah BYU. Who has the more difficult schedule Utah BYU. 238 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.759 Here's a jerky little secret nobody knows because it's freaking 239 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:19.000 February and we don't know what these teams are going 240 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:22.039 to look like come fall. On the BYU side of things, 241 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.279 they open things up against Portland State in Provo. Then 242 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:29.960 they'll host Stanford in Provo, a really random early by 243 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.519 for BYU September thirteenth. There's actually I think four Big 244 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:35.879 twelve teams that have a bye that week, and then 245 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:38.320 they'll be at East Carolina that is contractual. I think 246 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:42.039 they're finishing off that deal with East Carolina. Their Big 247 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:45.159 twelve opener will come September the twenty seventh. That fulsome 248 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.240 field in Boulder against Colorado. Then they come home for 249 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.559 West Virginia. They're on the road against Arizona, they host Utah, 250 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.919 and the week after they host Utah, they go to 251 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:57.080 Jack tries to take on Iowa State. That's a tough 252 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:02.120 ask for BYU bye week after that then it's Texas Tech, TCU, Cincinnati, 253 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:05.559 and UCF. So Schedule release day never been a huge 254 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.639 like schedule release Day guy, but hey, it's college football. 255 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:09.519 So we'll talk about it. 256 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:15.759 Your road trip opportunities as a Utah Utah youth football fan, Pasadena, California, 257 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.279 late August, go do that place in golf that'll be lovely. 258 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:26.399 And then Laramie, Wyoming, Morgantown, West Virginia, Provo, Utah, Waco, Texas, 259 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:30.159 and Lawrence, Kansas. I'm excited. What are you looking at 260 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:31.759 me like that for? I'm pumped for these markets. I 261 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:32.759 feel like you're judging me. 262 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:36.679 I feel I feel as though, remember, your feelings are 263 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:37.240 not facts. 264 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.159 Okay, so I know you feel this way, but it's 265 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:40.759 not factual. 266 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:43.120 Well, my feelings are also in the vast minority on 267 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:44.279 this particular one. 268 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:46.039 But I'm stoke for Laramie. 269 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.480 We'll send you out now. 270 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.559 We'll get to basketball at a moment, but of course 271 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.200 we'll do the schedule release to start things off. And 272 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.600 I just I'm gonna ask right off the top, why 273 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.720 Utah BYU October eighteenth? The last time these two teams 274 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.320 played football in October? I think you were twenty five. 275 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:04.600 It was nineteen sixty seven. 276 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:11.159 Yeah, I to be honest with you, I have no idea. 277 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.480 I mean, I got the November thing, like early November 278 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.799 but the middle of October is an odd time for 279 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:19.559 that to me. 280 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:22.840 Yeah, I have no idea. 281 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.240 Maybe they're downplaying it, maybe they don't have any other 282 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.679 good games that day, but you would think I kind 283 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:32.120 of I didn't mind November ninth last year. Sometimes you'll 284 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.240 get buried on other rivalry Saturdays, but it just seems 285 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.600 like an odd time to play it, right, smack dab 286 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:38.480 in the middle of the season. 287 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:42.399 Anything else really? I mean, look the difficult part about 288 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:44.840 you know, a day like today where fans just want 289 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.320 to know, like, Okay, is it a hard schedule or 290 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:50.879 is it an easy schedule? Arizona State was picked sixteenth 291 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:53.159 last year. I have no idea if this is a 292 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.759 hard or an easy schedule. But other than byu Utah 293 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.320 October the eighteenth down in Provo, anything else really jump out? 294 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:01.320 When you saw the release? 295 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.120 Yeah, I mean that's a that's a good back to 296 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.879 back right there. Here's the thing, I just until we 297 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:11.039 know what these rosters are going to definitively look like, 298 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:12.879 and I shoot, like you just said, we knew what 299 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:15.519 Arizona State's roster was going to definitively look like. They 300 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.879 had sixty new faces, and they go sixteenth and they 301 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:22.279 finished first. I don't have a great feel for it. 302 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.279 I mean, I think Utah is going to be better. 303 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:27.519 I mean, if Devin dan Pierre is anywhere close to 304 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:29.000 the guy they think he is, I think they're going 305 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:31.159 to be better this year. I just quote, get competent 306 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:33.720 quarterback play, We'll get him there. I'm looking at that 307 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:36.879 stretch that there's two three game stretches. I'm looking at 308 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:41.519 the Arizona State BYU Colorado stretch and then that I'm 309 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:44.440 telling you that stretch to end the year is going 310 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:48.399 to be difficult. Baylor got better last year. I mean, 311 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:51.120 we saw a bad version of Baylor in Salt Lake. 312 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:54.879 Last year. They finished really strong, and that game's down 313 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.080 at Waco. They bring back their quarterback. Kse State, who 314 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.960 we didn't see a year ago, homes the Salt Lake, 315 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.120 but they bring back their quarterback. They're a team that's 316 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:06.039 built a lot like Utah. And then that final game 317 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:08.559 of the year at Kansas. I'm just gonna say this, 318 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:13.200 it could be possibly the two most dynamic quarterbacks in 319 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.840 the Big Twelve squaring off again. If Devin dan Pierre 320 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:19.159 continues to play how he did at New Mexico and 321 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:23.399 Jalen Daniels is healthy. So those two three game stretches 322 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:27.639 Arizona State, BYU Colorado and then Baylor, K State and 323 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:29.639 Kansas and two of those three to end the season. 324 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:32.600 That's those could be two tough stretches for Utah. 325 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:35.679 Yeah, that k State game here at home. Hopefully we'll 326 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:39.639 have massive implications. Obviously, there's a lot of football. Will hell, 327 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.039 there's a lot of time between the football and then 328 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.559 there's a lot of football between you know, the start 329 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:46.879 of the season and that game. But that game when 330 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.799 Case State rolls into town, that certainly could be a 331 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:53.799 heavyweight fight. Ultimately, the non con you know, UCLA is 332 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.759 the first game Pasadena will see. I mean, that program's 333 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:59.759 been down for a while. And then cal Poly. You know, 334 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.000 we all know the deal. At some point, games I 335 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.679 guess will probably go to go away. So BYU is 336 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:07.759 going to East Carolina and I know that that is 337 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.759 a contract. The tom asked honor. Is that the same 338 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:13.879 thing with Wyoming? Like what's what's what's the motivation heading 339 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:15.799 up to larre Me or just trying to fill a schedule? 340 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.840 Well, now that game was scheduled a long long time ago. 341 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:19.519 OK, got it. 342 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:22.720 In fact, I think you was scheduled almost ten years ago. 343 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:27.639 And I just know this in conversations with people, it's 344 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.360 it's you know, people are like, well, just buy yourself 345 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.200 out of that game. Well, you know that's I don't 346 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.600 know the exact figure I'm going to guess that would 347 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:37.279 be if you tried to buy yourself out of a 348 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:39.639 game like that. First of all, Wyoming wants that game. 349 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:43.320 Second of all, it's expensive to buy yourself out. 350 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.159 Of games with D one schools. 351 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:47.279 Now, if you're playing A one double A or something 352 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:49.799 like that's a little cheaper, but it's hard to do 353 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:52.519 with that. It doesn't always make economic sense. So that 354 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:54.200 that game has been on the schedule for a while, 355 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:56.279 Wyoming will come back here. But yeah, that was that 356 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:58.679 was done about. I think I think about ten years ago. 357 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:01.639 UCLA has been down for a while. You know, their 358 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.319 first year in the Big Ten, they go three and 359 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:06.680 six overall, or three and six in Conference five and 360 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:09.880 seven overall. I'm not going to sit here and tell 361 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.680 you I'm ready to give you an accurate preview of 362 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:17.440 the UCLA Bruins next year, but I suppose starting things 363 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:21.000 off an opponent that may not be that challenging yet 364 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.319 is out of a P four conference, is something that 365 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:24.839 you can kind of look forward to. 366 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.079 What's your thoughts on the opening game against Ucla? 367 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:28.440 Yeah, I think so. 368 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:31.279 I mean they struggled a little bit last year. Deshaun Foster, 369 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.319 I think was their first year quarterback or head coach, 370 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:36.880 had never been a head coach before. I think they 371 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.440 got a little bit better though as the year went along. 372 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:42.279 But if you're going to play a P four school, 373 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:45.519 I think Ucla still kind of trying to figure out 374 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:48.519 where it falls in the Big Ten and going down 375 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.440 there it's familiar territory. I think I like that as 376 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:54.680 an opener, especially with cal Pauly and Wyoming on the schedule. 377 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:58.119 So I think again, based on what they did a 378 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:01.599 year ago and not seeing a lot of hyper or 379 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.119 vibe about them in the Big Ten, I think that's 380 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:05.240 not a bad place to open. 381 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:06.240 Yeah. 382 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:09.319 They actually, to your point, went through a stretch. Now 383 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:11.799 Ethan Garber's was a senior, so he's gone. But to 384 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.400 finish off the year the second half of the year, 385 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:17.039 they won at Rutgers, they want at Nebraska, then they 386 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:20.240 want at home against Iowa, and they gave Washington and 387 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:23.480 Southern Cali good game before winning at Fresno to finish 388 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:23.960 things off. 389 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:25.519 Just the start of the season was rough. They had 390 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:26.400 a pretty rough schedule. 391 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:29.200 They got smoked by LSU, Oregon and Penn State and 392 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:30.359 then played a little bit better. 393 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:32.079 So yeah, to your point, they didn't prove a little 394 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:33.680 bit all right. 395 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:36.920 So when you look at the let's let's let's let's 396 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:40.000 break this in two parts. So the home schedule is 397 00:18:40.039 --> 00:18:44.400 cal Poly, Texas Tech, Arizona State, Colorado, Cincinnati, Kansas State. 398 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:47.079 And you know, I'm not gonna be the guy that 399 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.119 says I missed the Pac twelve every single year, but 400 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.799 I do and I continue to. But with the with 401 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:55.079 the options bill at our disposal, that's not I mean, look, 402 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.000 cal Poly, you know the deal. They're going to get 403 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.039 a check, They're going to go fund their athletic department 404 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:01.480 and then we'll see what most of these teams are about. 405 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:04.759 But just on paper, first glance, Arizona State, Colorado, k 406 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:07.079 State three good conference on games. 407 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:11.559 Yeah yeah, those are three of the top six in 408 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:14.640 the Big twelve coming to your place, Arizona State and 409 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:15.440 Arizona State. 410 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:15.880 Spence. 411 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.039 You know, even going back to the PAC twelve days, 412 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:20.359 everybody was looking for that rival of the Pac twelve 413 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:22.599 and oh it's you, and it was never usc come 414 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:25.200 on Via. They played good games, but that wasn't I 415 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:28.400 always felt like Utah and Asu there was a little 416 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:30.720 bit of an edge and some chippiness there, and there 417 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.440 were good games played in Salt Lake and in Tempe. 418 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:35.160 I like that. 419 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:37.319 And I think that, you know, as they play in 420 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:40.599 the Big twelve too, that could it's kind of reagion. 421 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:43.319 Utah recruits a lot of kids out of Arizona. They 422 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:46.000 go ahead to head and recruiting. I like that game, 423 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.359 Dion and and the road show comes to Salt Lake City. 424 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:53.240 I don't mind that. In Kansas State, man, they're not glamorous, 425 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:54.839 kind of like we you know, people used to talk 426 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:57.960 about Utah. They're not glamorous, they're not sexy, but what 427 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.799 do they win a lot of football games? And that's 428 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:03.359 what Case State does too. So those three games all 429 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:05.359 falling kind of in the second half of the schedule. 430 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.240 I think it's a good home schedule BYU. 431 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:10.640 I mean, look, we did this exercise last year and 432 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:13.480 as we've already outlined, it's just impossible to know who 433 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:17.039 has the easier schedule, who has the harder schedule, but 434 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.599 BYU does return a grip of talent. Where do you 435 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:23.000 think preseason top twenty five? Where do you think Brigham 436 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:23.960 Young Lands next year. 437 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:26.640 I've seen a lot of early polls that have them 438 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:30.759 in that kind of nine to twelve thirteen range, and 439 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.599 based on what they did this past year, Okay, don't 440 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:36.960 I don't value them quite that high. I think they're 441 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.000 a top twenty five program for sure. I think they 442 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:42.000 were one of those teams. You know, It's kind of funny. 443 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:44.880 Utah was on the other side of the ball bouncing 444 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.160 their way, and I thought the ball bounce BYU's way 445 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:50.200 quite a bit. I'm not saying that the disparage the program. 446 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:52.160 I think they're really good. I'm not sure they're a 447 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:55.880 top ten program, but I think there's somewhere between fifteen 448 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:56.680 and twenty five. 449 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:57.880 Does that sound about right to you? 450 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:01.359 Yeah, I would guess fifteen sixteen. What about I'm assuming 451 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:04.039 Arizona State also ranked? But which other Big twelve teams 452 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:04.240 are you? 453 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:04.519 Are you? 454 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:06.519 Are you guessing as of now will be in the 455 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:07.759 preseason top twenty five? 456 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.799 Best guess I'm gonna say Arizona State, though I mean 457 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:14.319 cam Scattaboo's a big loss. 458 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:17.759 To look around at that a little bit. 459 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:22.440 Kansas State's got a chance, Baylor might have a chance. 460 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.640 Depending on the hype around Colorado, they might have a chance. 461 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:29.440 I'm going to say in the preseason top twenty five 462 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:35.559 that there's probably four, maybe five Big twelve teams ranked, 463 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:40.039 but probably not many more than that Utah. Some people 464 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:42.640 are gonna I mean, Bill Connelly from ESPN picked them 465 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:44.319 to win the league, and I don't think you could 466 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:46.720 make a case for that, certainly. I think a lot 467 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.440 of people when they come to preseason and offseason polls 468 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:51.680 are prisoners of the moment. They look back at the 469 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:54.359 year before and see a down year for Utah. So 470 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:56.920 it won't surprise me if the Utah left out of 471 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.079 the top twenty five at least to begin the season. 472 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:00.480 One more football question. 473 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:02.319 Then we'll move over to some hoops and obviously get 474 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:04.880 a little Super Bowl talk with you as well as 475 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:08.319 somebody who has now called games in the Big Twelve, 476 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:10.839 and as somebody who has experienced, you know, growing up 477 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:13.680 and going to school in the Midwest. Road trip options 478 00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:15.799 Pasadena right out of the gates, Go ahead and do 479 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.960 that in August, play some golf and then Porter's juice 480 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:22.799 to head up to the you know, to the Wyoming game. 481 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.039 He wants to go to Laramie. So we're gonna send 482 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:28.200 Porter up to Laramie very early. Maybe stop at some 483 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:30.400 Flying J's and grab some chicken sandos. 484 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:31.079 Not judging. 485 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:36.759 So Laramie, Morgantown, Provo, Waco, Lawrence, Kansas. 486 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:38.240 Those are your road trip options. 487 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:41.759 Give us the Bill Riley Zagat guide to trips and 488 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:42.720 cities and restaurants. 489 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:45.400 Where should you fans look to go if. 490 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:47.759 We're taking well, we know what the Rose Bowl is, 491 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:50.480 most ute fans know what Laramie is, so we'll wipe 492 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:53.519 those off the board. I've never been to Morgantown for 493 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:56.079 a football game, so I am looking forward to. I 494 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:58.799 hear it's a great college town, and I hear it's 495 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:02.759 a great atmosphere. And rich Rod's back at West Virginia. 496 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:05.559 I think that they got a chance to be sneaky good. 497 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:07.799 It's not easy to get to You kind of have 498 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:09.599 to fly to Pittsburgh and make an hour and a 499 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:16.240 half drive south. But I would say Morgantown, Wacoh. Not 500 00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:19.519 much in Waco to be very fair. Some BUCkies, you know, 501 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:24.240 truck stops, they're okay, Kansas, it's going to be late November, 502 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:25.160 so there's that. 503 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.279 But the stadium, it's going to be a brand. 504 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.440 New football stadium, assuming they get it finished and they're 505 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:34.400 not playing an Arrowhead again. Lawrence is a great college town, 506 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.200 and Kay, you's got a chance to be pretty good 507 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:39.680 next year again if the Daniels kids stays healthy. So 508 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:48.319 I would rank the trips for college town atmospheres, Lawrence, Morgantown, 509 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.519 and then probably Waco is where I would go. 510 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:54.039 All right, moving over to some hoops and I wanted 511 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:56.440 to start here, and I know I can remember back 512 00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:58.400 in the day when we were working together every day, 513 00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:00.119 you had an old school picture of you and you 514 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.359 and I think it was Roy Williams. Is that correct? 515 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:03.640 That is correct? 516 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:06.759 Have you ever called a Kansas basketball game? Like when 517 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:09.519 you think about the fact that Kansas is rolling into 518 00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:13.359 saut Lake and you will be calling Utah Kansas basketball, Like, 519 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:16.759 has that kind of landed where it needs to in 520 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:18.640 that brain of yours, Because this is a pretty cool 521 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:21.000 thing that you have on the horizon for your career. 522 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:23.400 I think, yeah, I got to when I was in 523 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.559 college the student radio station, we had a seat court 524 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:28.799 side so I got to call some games my senior 525 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:32.240 year at Allen Field House. Nice the Utes played the 526 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:36.359 Jayhawks in that one off game in Kansas City, and like, oh, 527 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:39.200 was it fourteen or fifteen? So I did call one 528 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:42.119 in Kansas City. But this will be the first time 529 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:43.279 they come here, so it'll be fun. 530 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:43.960 It'll be fun. 531 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.039 And you know, Kansas is good, they're talented. They've been 532 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:49.960 a little bit up and down. But I don't know 533 00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:51.920 what's going on with Iowa State. They were top five. 534 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:54.759 Now they've lost three straight. But let's get over there 535 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:58.160 to the Utes now. And you know, ultimately, after winning 536 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.000 three straight games in the Big Twelve, including a win 537 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:03.279 over Brigham Young, maybe some folks got a little bit 538 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.240 over their skis with excitement. And of course since then 539 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:09.359 it's you know, losing three or four. Since you and 540 00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:12.400 I last spoke though a trip to Oklahoma State, where 541 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:14.519 it was kind of like, all right, they're kind of 542 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.640 in this, but I don't feel like they're gonna get 543 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:18.279 over the hump. They couldn't get over that like seven 544 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:20.200 or eight point deficit. Every time they would make a 545 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:23.599 little bit of a charge, turnovers or they'd miss a shot, 546 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:27.119 Oklahoma State would capitalize. So it felt like Oklahoma State 547 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:29.839 was in control most of the game, although Utah did 548 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:32.519 keep it competitive. Bill, if the Utes are going to 549 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:35.839 try to compete for anything even semi special, you know, 550 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.960 eight nine, you know, eight nine conference wins year one 551 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:40.680 of the Big twelve, they're gonna have to find something 552 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:43.279 on the road. That seemed like a good opportunity because 553 00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:46.000 Oklahoma State is not top shelf. But what did you 554 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.200 make of that eighty one seventy two loss. 555 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:50.279 It wasn't a good loss, Spence. 556 00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:54.200 Oklahoma State had just lost Kansas State by twenty eight. 557 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.079 You know, Utah beat them by twenty one. It was 558 00:25:58.119 --> 00:25:59.920 really the start of the game that did them in. 559 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:01.680 Craig and I talked about it on the Coaching Show 560 00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:04.440 last night. They just they didn't come out on the 561 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.440 defensive end with great energy, and they let Oklahoma State 562 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.160 kind of dictate. And Oklahoma State's not a great offensive 563 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.400 basketball team, but they let them dictate at home, and 564 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:15.920 they got down like twelve three and then fifteen to five. 565 00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:18.880 And they always, as you were just kind of alluding to, 566 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.880 they were always kind of just playing from behind just 567 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.440 a little bit, and they just, you know, again, teams 568 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:26.960 are going to play well at home. They were kind 569 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.759 of a wounded animal. But you know, with a chance 570 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:32.359 to kind of get a season sweep against a team, 571 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:36.920 especially on the defensive end, they they and Oklahoma State 572 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:38.599 get to the line too many times. So it was 573 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.400 a disappointing loss for sure. Tomorrow night's about the closest 574 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:44.599 thing you have to a chance for a really easy 575 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.759 bounce back. Colorado is really struggling right now. They've lost 576 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:50.720 ten in a row, haven't won a Big twelve game yet. 577 00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.160 You're back at home tomorrow night, so you got to 578 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.279 circle Tomorrow night as one of those Gidwell games. 579 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.680 Has Craig said anything to you about because we had 580 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.680 Craig on the show on Friday and I asked him 581 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.960 and whenever you say tinkering to a coach, you kind 582 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.279 of cringe because you know they take that as an insult. 583 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.880 But the rotations and the lineups, like every night, it 584 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.279 feels like it's different every night. There's a guy who 585 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.799 didn't get run the game before who comes back and 586 00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.920 gets seventeen eighteen minutes. Is this kind of like he's 587 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.119 going to bring whatever the night needs rotationally or do 588 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:21.799 you think he's still trying to figure out sort of 589 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:22.759 what hand he's been dealt. 590 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:23.559 Now. 591 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:25.480 I think he's trying to figure out who's going to 592 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:28.519 bring it for him sometimes, if that makes sense. You know, 593 00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.119 it's really been up and down at the point guard spot. 594 00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:34.640 Miro Little had that great game against Failor, and he 595 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.319 struggled the last couple of games. Mike Sharp Johns had 596 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:39.559 some struggles, but now he's playing a little bit better. 597 00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.200 And you know, boy, if you want to be consistent 598 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.319 at any one position on the floor, you'd love for 599 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.000 that point guard to be that spot where you're consistent. 600 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.880 So I think Craig and his staff are just trying 601 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:51.759 to search for those guys that are going to give 602 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.880 him not one game of consistency, but several games of consistency. 603 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.519 And I think that's why you've seen some of the 604 00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:58.599 some of the lineups. 605 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:02.319 All Right, you already alluded to this, but let's just 606 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.000 get a thought before we get over the Super Bowl. 607 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:04.559 Let's get a. 608 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.000 Thought on the game tomorrow night. 609 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:09.440 It is Colorado, and Colorado is probably the worst team 610 00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:13.640 in the conference because you know, zher to ten and 611 00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:16.200 then look at West Virginia at Cincinnati. I said this 612 00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.160 after the Cincinnati win I'm like, look, like I said 613 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.000 to you, they have to find some road wins, and 614 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.559 it felt like they had a four game stretch with 615 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.440 three on the road with some winnable games. West Virginia 616 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:28.720 solid and that's a tough place to get a win. 617 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.519 I'm not saying that that would be a cake walk, 618 00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:35.160 but ultimately they also have Cincinnati, who they already beat. 619 00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.000 So your thoughts on just a must win game tomorrow 620 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:38.920 here in Salt Lake, then. 621 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:40.599 Give me a quick thought on the two game roady 622 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:41.039 after that. 623 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:46.240 Yeah, the Colorado game is one you've got to have. Again, 624 00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.960 as mentioned, they've lost ten in a row. They're just 625 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:53.279 they've had some injuries. They don't have the same talent 626 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:55.640 that they've had in recent years. He's had some NBA 627 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.279 guys in recent years, including one that's playing for the Jazz. 628 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.720 So it's they're just they're lacking talent right now and 629 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.279 being at home and coming off the game Saturday tomorrow 630 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.359 night's one that I think that they should they should 631 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.480 probably get. As far as the road games go, there's 632 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.200 not an easy road game left Spence, West Virginia, not 633 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.960 easy Cincinnati on the road. I know they beat them, 634 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:20.839 but you know, the Cincinnati team is pretty good at 635 00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:22.440 home UCF. 636 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:23.200 It's funny. 637 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.000 UCF has beaten Kansas, They've taken Houston to the wire. 638 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:28.119 They're tough. 639 00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:29.960 And then your other away team is going. 640 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.400 To be Arizona and BYU, So yeah, rote you know 641 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:35.319 they're going to be tested on the road for sure. 642 00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:39.079 And then you're bringing Kansas here, West Virginia here too. 643 00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.559 So this second half of the first half of the 644 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:43.480 schedule was difficult for you. Till the first ten, they 645 00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:45.680 had the fourth most difficult schedule in the Big Twelve. 646 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.599 But it's the Big Twelve. It's not like the second 647 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:50.200 half's going to ease up a bunch either. 648 00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.960 So all right, super Bowl fifty nine in the Big Easy. 649 00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.680 Hopefully somebody is going to go over to Dani Seafood 650 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.599 and hab A Shrimp po Boy in honor of Bill 651 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.880 and Space Great, Oh my gosh, that was one of 652 00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.440 my favorite weeks that I've ever had in doing this 653 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.559 for a living. That was so fun for our listeners 654 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:09.680 that are wondering what you're talking about. Bill and I 655 00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:12.720 did a week worth of shows prior to the Sugar 656 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:14.640 Bowl back in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, 657 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.799 the Utah one, of course over Alabama, and we did 658 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.759 every show at a restaurant called Deani Seafood and they 659 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.279 fed us for free and it was awesome. And Bill 660 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.720 over the loudspeaker called Nick Saban arrogant, and somebody told 661 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:28.680 Bill to go back to his Mormon church, to which 662 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.240 I responded, I'm not sure that means. What do you 663 00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.640 think it means to that guy? But anyway, but that 664 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:36.720 was such a fun week about. 665 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.319 That part of it, that is right. 666 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.640 How did you forget that those. 667 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.039 Arrogant Alabama fans that were in there almost they were 668 00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:46.920 just being so they were being so petty and just 669 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.880 like they were patting us on all you guys are. 670 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:49.799 A cute little team. 671 00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.640 And then I said Saban was a little arrogant, and 672 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.799 that was really before he'd ever won anything at Alabama. 673 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:58.480 And yeah, that one guy did not want to have that. 674 00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.920 Did he go back to Mormon church? He says to Bill. 675 00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:03.839 I'm like, oh, all right, well, I guess that's the 676 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.759 low hanging fruit because we're a Utah radio station. Anyway, 677 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.599 that was an awesome week and the game, of course, 678 00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.960 I still think that's the best individual single win in 679 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:13.960 the history of the program. 680 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:14.559 But that's just me. 681 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.440 I am stunned Bill that the line has not moved 682 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.960 at all. It opened up at one point five. The 683 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.519 Chiefs are still a one point five point favorite, and 684 00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.160 you know the money line is now even, but the 685 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:28.599 over runner forty eight point five. 686 00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:30.079 What's your gut tell you? 687 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:31.720 Do you think you guys in trouble or are the 688 00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:33.359 refs just going to give you another Super Bowl? 689 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:38.359 Well, okay, thank you for that they I think it's 690 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:40.119 going to be a really good game. I like Kansas 691 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.279 City's chances. By the way, stat of the day I 692 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.799 read this somewhere today. Patrick Mahomes is fifteen to zero 693 00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:47.960 in indoor games. He's never lost a game in a 694 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:48.759 dome geeze. 695 00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.279 So I think it's a good if. Here's what I'll say. 696 00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.160 If if they can run the ball with any real 697 00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.440 success and they get kind of a lead, a seven 698 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.319 to ten point lead, I think the Eagles will win. 699 00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:05.519 I don't think the Chiefs can afford to let the 700 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.240 Eagles get up, you know, even ten points on them, 701 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.799 because I think if they're doing that, that means they're 702 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:13.160 running the ball well, controlling the clock and keeping the 703 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.720 Homes off the field. If Kansas City can get off 704 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.240 to a good start. You're not going to stop Saquon, 705 00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:19.960 but if you can slow him down, hold him to 706 00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.440 seventy five, eighty five, maybe even just one hundred yards 707 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.720 and none of those sixty yard runs he seems to 708 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:26.960 be breaking every other game. 709 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:28.839 I think they have a good chance to win that thing. 710 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.039 I'm not betting against, so I'll tell you that much. 711 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:31.279 Man. 712 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:32.960 What are your plans for the Super Bowl? What are 713 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:33.759 your plans for the Big Game? 714 00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:34.119 Anything? 715 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:34.480 Fun? 716 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:37.640 I'm going to be in Cincinnati watching the game because 717 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:38.799 I'll be on the road with the Utes. 718 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:40.920 Oh okay, man, all right. 719 00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:42.440 Can I ask you a quick question? 720 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:43.960 Yeah? Go ahead, Please think about this. 721 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.519 Yeah please, Because I'm kind of not doing the show 722 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:48.680 day in and day out. I'm not really very plugged 723 00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:50.960 into the Jazz, and they're pretty terrible this year. But 724 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.880 after all the Lucas stuff and reading all the Lucas 725 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.759 stuff over the last couple of days, I've got to 726 00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.079 ask you, do the Jazz have a plan? 727 00:32:59.160 --> 00:32:59.559 Spence? 728 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.880 I mean, if I asked you today, what do the 729 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.400 Jazz have a plan for the next two to three 730 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.160 years to be good? I'm not even saying great, to 731 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.079 be good again because I'm looking. I've watched a couple 732 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.920 of games, and I watch all the recaps. I listened 733 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:19.160 to you, they feel like they don't have any plan whatsoever. 734 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:23.680 Spence, Yeah, I mean it's the plan they have is 735 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.480 predicated on a tremendous amount of luck going their way. 736 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:27.559 That's the issue. 737 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:29.480 I mean, best kind of plan to have. 738 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.319 No, No, it's not. And you know, if you believe 739 00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.519 what they said. As far as xanax media availability to 740 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.440 start the year, he said, look, and I really believe 741 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.000 when Danny Ains dropped a big game hunting, Xanik probably puked. 742 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:43.960 He's like, what is he doing. 743 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.400 I don't think he liked that Danny dropped that, because 744 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.680 when Xanik did his preseason media you could tell he 745 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:51.359 was a little bit grumpy. He said, look, we tried, 746 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.400 We went out and we tried to get good players. 747 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.880 And Ryan Smith has been vocal and front facing about 748 00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.680 his desire. He wanted Kristaps Porzingis before he landed in 749 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.920 Boss and he wanted Drew Holliday before he landed in Boston. 750 00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:05.119 I don't know who told them that they had a 751 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.000 chance to trade for Paul George and sign mckel bridges, 752 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:11.519 but like's that was the spin in the front office. 753 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.400 And so I think they've simply and in my opinion, 754 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.280 they should have done this three years ago when they 755 00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.320 broke that team down when a player named Victor wem 756 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.599 Minyama was available. I think they have decided to do 757 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.039 what the Spurs did when wem Minyama was available in 758 00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.719 hopes that they can lock into a Cooper Flag and 759 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.760 if they can do that bill next season, you're starting 760 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.000 front court is Walker Kessler, Loarry Market and Cooper Flag. 761 00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.079 First of all, congrats to the Market for that. Second 762 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.440 of all, we actually then we have something right and 763 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.679 then we say, okay, now we can see this thing 764 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.800 taking place. But if their lottery luck, which nine straight 765 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:48.880 times in the lottery they've never moved up, if they 766 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.639 fall the six or seven or eight again, I mean 767 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.039 I'm already in a space where I'm not expecting them 768 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:57.599 to be really good for four to five years, and 769 00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.360 if that happens, we might reset the calculation one again. 770 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.639 It's it's tough, man. It's a tough scene to cover 771 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:03.880 the Jazz this year, There's no doubt. 772 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:04.519 Yeah. 773 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.840 And I just say that because two or three years ago, 774 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.199 when you deal Donovan and you deal Rudy and you're 775 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:12.519 amassing all these draftics. I get all that stuff, but 776 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.559 even two or three years in with the Thunder, or 777 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.599 even a couple of years now in with the Spurs, 778 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:19.800 and I know they landed Wemby and all that stuff, but. 779 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:20.840 It felt like there. 780 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.400 It just doesn't feel like three years into this thing, 781 00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.719 we're seeing any real tangible progress, that's all. 782 00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:27.039 I mean. 783 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:27.920 No, And you're not wrong. 784 00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.119 And they've got a really bright young coach, but I'm 785 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.679 afraid if they can't give Will weapons in two years 786 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:34.280 and when his deal is up, he might be like, 787 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.840 all right, well gave you five years. I'm gonna go 788 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.800 coach a team that actually has players. It's a tough scene, man. 789 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.000 I feel for jazz fans, but they keep showing up. 790 00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:44.440 Hey, by the way, just on the way out. This 791 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:45.840 will make you feel good today. I was in an 792 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.079 uber the other day and this guy goes, oh my god, 793 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.559 Bill Riley, Like hey, he goes, I just got to 794 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.719 say you, Spence and Shep were the best show that 795 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:56.679 was ever in Salt Lake City and I've lived here 796 00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:57.480 for twenty years. 797 00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.960 Oh yes, any included he did? 798 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.920 He goes, Boy, you guys used to let chef have it. 799 00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:06.440 Well. 800 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.880 I cannot deny that, man, I cannot deny that. 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Time for our Tuesday staple. 831 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.320 And my goodness, gracious, I don't know how it's been 832 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.880 for our guy, Tim McMahon over the past seventy two hours. 833 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:54.000 Tim, are you. 834 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.079 Sleeping, are you eating? Are you hydrating? Or are you 835 00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:58.079 just working right now? 836 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.320 I got a little I'm gonna played the last couple 837 00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.960 of nights, not so much the night before that. I 838 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.639 don't think I've had lunch. I've been at this particular 839 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.440 stop on the trip, but I'm freaing in breakfast in 840 00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:15.079 a little bit of dinner. So all right, my. 841 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.599 Man, Well, I appreciate the time, and look, you know, 842 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:21.440 like everybody else, I've been trying to make sense of 843 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.199 what's happened over the past few days, And like everybody else, 844 00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.199 I've been trying to talk to people around the league 845 00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.400 about if they knew about this, what their thoughts were. 846 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.079 I've had more than a few NBA front office people 847 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:34.880 text me and say, this is simply Dallas being concerned 848 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.920 about his condition that is off the court habits and 849 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:40.599 his long term health and whether or not he's durable, 850 00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:43.760 and then their conspiracy theories left and right. I guess 851 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.719 I'm going Aukham's razor here and just believing in the 852 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:48.480 most basic of explanations. 853 00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:49.320 But you're the guy for this. 854 00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.639 Why would Dallas trade a twenty five year old Luka 855 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.719 Doncics right in the start of the prime of his career. 856 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.559 Yeah, I mean the first one is the accurate one. 857 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:00.679 They did not feel that they to make a three 858 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.880 hundred and fifty million dollar investment, which would have been 859 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:08.000 the supermax number roughly in a player who has not 860 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:14.239 shown the willingness of the discipline to dedicate himself to conditioning. 861 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.559 Who you know, they're they're fearful, he's his body has 862 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.519 already breaken down at the age of twenty five. You know, 863 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:24.280 he's missed twenty seven games already this season. They don't 864 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.760 feel like the messaging is getting through. They aren't seeing 865 00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:30.079 the habits change. Honestly, they feel like in some ways 866 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.079 things have gotten worse. And look that stuff is all 867 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:39.440 the primary stuff. There's also like Luca has been very attached, 868 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:43.480 very aloof you know, there have been some changes in 869 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.719 the kind of behind the scenes staff of the Mavericks 870 00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:50.760 where they've fired a lot of people who Luca considered 871 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.639 considered as friends, you know, and you know, as a result, 872 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.719 at least partly as a result, the communication between Luca's 873 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:03.760 quote unquote body team and the Mavericks was unpleasant and minimal, 874 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.920 to say the least. The communication between Luca and Nikhil 875 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.719 Harrison has been minimal, and uh this suit case where 876 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.800 Nico ultimately decided I don't trust him, I don't want 877 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:18.880 to rely on him. I don't care how talented he is. 878 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.840 I'm going to go get one of my guys. And 879 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.239 Anthony Davis has been more than Miikil Harrison guys since 880 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.920 Ad was a you know, a teenage big time prospect, 881 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.960 and Nikol was thrown in the basketball division at Ike. 882 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:34.840 So ultimately, let me let me follow up, because you've 883 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.440 been on the ground there and you understand this dynamic 884 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:39.800 better than any media member I could talk to. Like, 885 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:42.440 I'm just simply of the opinion that you do not 886 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.039 trade him, that you do not trade Luka Doncicch at 887 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.280 twenty five years old, because in my opinion, he's one 888 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:49.239 of the top two or three players in pro basketball. 889 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:50.079 I don't think I'm alone. 890 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.679 So that, to me, Tim indicates that behind the scenes 891 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:56.599 it must be a lot worse than anybody indicates. 892 00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:57.840 Is he just is he? 893 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.559 Is he a malcontent? Is he a pain? Is he great? 894 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:01.039 On people? 895 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:01.239 Like? 896 00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:03.480 Just how bad has it become behind the scenes there? 897 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:08.360 I mean, it is the difficult is the high landlans, Yeah, sure, 898 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:12.880 one hundred percent? Or the conditioning concerns legitimate? Absolutely? Did 899 00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.199 he avage thirty four, ten and nine and leads a 900 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.880 team to the NBA finals months ago? Yes, you know, 901 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:21.480 And so I'm with you as far as you just 902 00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:25.280 cannot trade that type of talent during the state his career, 903 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:26.719 when he could be enter any crime. 904 00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.000 What has the reaction been. I mean, I imagine I 905 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:31.599 know the answer. 906 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:34.440 But with Mavericks fans what what has been the town 907 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:35.960 and tenor of the fan base down there. 908 00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:42.320 Indeed, it's Saturday, when the Matters are back home, I 909 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.599 fear it will be toxic act here. And could say 910 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:52.960 there's been saying backlash is like saying Luca, Uh, Luca 911 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:56.519 had a production season last year. It was a massive understatement. Uh. 912 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:01.880 This fan base is angry, it is heart broken. It's 913 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:06.280 you know, as Luca felt, blinds in the trade and 914 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.199 the fan base fills out as well that you know BEYONDO. 915 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:12.760 I mean, you know, there's protests outside the American Airline Center. 916 00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:14.480 People are canceling season safety. 917 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:14.920 It's like. 918 00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:20.639 It's not gonna it's gonna be a not a not 919 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.920 a nice vibe. I would say, when the Matters get 920 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.880 back in the town and I have a home homestand 921 00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:28.519 coming up starting on Saturday, a. 922 00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.480 Lot of people, including our mutual friend Tom Haverstrow who 923 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:35.880 joined the show yesterday and his podcast partners, you know, 924 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.880 they're they're bringing up this theory floated out by Dallas 925 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.800 area attorney. And I've read the Twitter threat and I've 926 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.760 read the reactions to it that this new ownership group 927 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.559 after Mark Cuban sold his majority shares last year. This 928 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:51.199 addleson group who has interest in Vegas, in the Vegas 929 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.039 Sands casino. This is a long term play for them 930 00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.000 to take the Mavericks to Las Vegas. That doesn't land 931 00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:57.320 with me. 932 00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:57.920 Tim. 933 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.719 I would imagine only having Luca on a roster gives 934 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.440 you more leverage to do things you want to do. 935 00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.000 But any is there any meat on that bone at all? 936 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:09.039 I I can't follow that logic. But you're the guy 937 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:09.280 for this. 938 00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:12.519 What do you think you listen, I've seen that stuff. 939 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:14.599 I don't think there's any meat on the bone. I 940 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.079 don't think that the NBA would allow the Mavericks to 941 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.199 move to Vegas where you know, ultimately they have plans 942 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.400 who have an expansion franchise that will pay a whole 943 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.559 lot of money to be there. You know, the whole 944 00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.599 Adelson Dumont Las Vegas Sans groups ambitions are to get 945 00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.239 gambling legalized in Dallas and to build a massive resort 946 00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:38.039 casino that include a new arena. They already have all 947 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:41.679 this stuff in Vegas, so you know, I've seen all 948 00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:43.559 that as well. I will say this, I was told 949 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:47.440 by somebody in that in that high powered Dallas attorney 950 00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:51.760 community that this is a big time blow to any 951 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.920 any plans they had of a comption their goals of 952 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:58.760 getting gambling legalized, because frankly, I don't think that they 953 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:05.000 understood just the financial potential, financial financial ramifications of trading 954 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:08.840 Luka Donci to trading the face of the franchise, who 955 00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:13.440 is just adored, like by this fan base, you know, 956 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:18.519 the most the most talented player in franchise history, for sure, 957 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:21.119 and that's a mouthful because Dirk scored thirty thousand some 958 00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.400 odd points. And I can't say most popular because Dirk 959 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.000 was there so long and so beloved, but definitely the 960 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:34.920 most spectacular, no question about that. And those he sold 961 00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.280 a lot of jerseys, He sold a lot of tickets, 962 00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.320 he sold a lot of sponsorships, and I think all 963 00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.079 those things are going to take a significant hit. 964 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.400 Is there any way before we get over to the 965 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.239 Lakers side of this, and then of course I want 966 00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.159 to talk about the jazz side of this as well, 967 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.440 But is there any way? Because Luca is so good, 968 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:56.599 people are talking about Anthony Davis like he's Jerome James 969 00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:59.519 for the next I mean, Anthony Davis is good, and 970 00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.599 he played in seventy two games last year. He has 971 00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.199 been really good this year. Is there any way this 972 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.719 works out in Aniko's favor? Can you expand your horizons 973 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:08.519 to get to that point? 974 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.000 I mean, yeah, it's within the realm of possibility. Well, 975 00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:14.159 I wouldn't have done the trade, but it is within 976 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.760 the realm of possibility. I have talked to a couple 977 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.599 of gentle manners who felt like this move made them 978 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:23.559 better immediately. It definitely crunches the time frame, you know, 979 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.079 Nico's said they're built to a now and in the future, 980 00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:28.480 and clarify the features being the next three to four years, 981 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.719 which is interesting because the issue there is they start 982 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.960 having a fix theyo in twenty seven, and then twenty 983 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:39.559 eight in twenty nine, thirty and by the play the 984 00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:42.280 last three of those were their neighbors in Oklahoma City 985 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.199 to any other Chief Texas teams with picks and swaps. 986 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:49.079 But like Dallas is going to be eight if they're 987 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.519 if they're healthy, this is going to be a team 988 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.880 that's a tough matchup in the playoffs for sure. And hey, 989 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:59.079 if they're right about Luca and he doesn't, you know, 990 00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:03.599 dedicate himself as body breaks down, then yeah, he could 991 00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:06.599 end up being right. I don't know the odjour and 992 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.840 his favorite because again, just the level of this guy's talent. 993 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.760 I mean, we're talking about one of the best players 994 00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:18.280 through the age twenty five, maybe the best we've ever seen. 995 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:23.000 No, you just you don't do this trade. You just don't. 996 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:24.599 And I'm not going to back off that assertion. 997 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.800 But let me ask you the question that everybody's been 998 00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.559 kicking around that I'm honestly conflicted about. We had mcminimon 999 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.320 on yesterday. I kind of asked him the same thing. 1000 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.320 So I get the whole side of this, like why 1001 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.840 didn't you open this up for business? Why didn't you 1002 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.239 shop him to get a package that is better than 1003 00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.519 what you got? But I also understand that if you know, 1004 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.000 according to your reporting and others, that Nico was just 1005 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.800 long for Anthony Davis, maybe this was just tunnel vision 1006 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.800 because that's the dude he wanted. But what's your take 1007 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.639 on the dynamic of Nico not opening this up for 1008 00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:54.840 an open market bidding war. 1009 00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:58.760 Yeah, I definitely have heard a lot of criticisms about that. 1010 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.679 You know, the reasoning one walked into Anthony Davis, that's 1011 00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:05.480 the guy he wanted. 1012 00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:06.239 Uh. 1013 00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.880 Two, he did not want to give Luca and his agent, 1014 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.239 Bill Duffie, one of the most respected agents in the league, 1015 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.840 A chance to have any influence on this, a chance 1016 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.920 to you know, uh, cut off discussions, you know, tell 1017 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.519 team we're not resigning, a chance to muddy the waters 1018 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.480 at all. So he wanted this thing to be absolutely 1019 00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:32.119 done in secrecy. That's the logic, you know. I don't know, man, 1020 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.039 tell yeah, it's I would have at least wrote it 1021 00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:38.639 out the rest of the season, and they didn't want to. 1022 00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.079 They didn't want to mid season saga in terms of 1023 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:43.719 Luca's on the block and all the drama went along 1024 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.639 with that. I would have wrote it out the rest 1025 00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.920 of the season at the minimum. Yeah, And and and 1026 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:51.679 handle it if you want to handle out business, handle 1027 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:56.480 it in the summer. You know, I knew just how 1028 00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:00.639 frustrated they were with him, from Nico to Jason, you know, 1029 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.679 throughout for an office, the you know, the code and staff, 1030 00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:07.920 et cetera. I even had people mentioned, you know, if 1031 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.559 we got to trade, we'll trade them. I thought they 1032 00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:15.519 were blowing smoke. I'd never imagined they would actually do it. 1033 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:17.360 I thought, you know, because you hear a lot of 1034 00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.800 people huff and puff, like man all right, I'm glad 1035 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:21.360 you'll let off some steam there. 1036 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:22.360 Let's be real. 1037 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:26.159 Well it was real, yeah, and I'm still stunned. I 1038 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:29.400 thought maybe more information would come out after I got 1039 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.320 the alert on my phone to this day to day, 1040 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:33.239 but it's still as stunning right now as it was 1041 00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.320 when it happened. The Lakers side of this, Tim, You know, 1042 00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.559 when it comes to people that believe that the NBA 1043 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:45.320 is a scripted WWE league, they look at the Lakers 1044 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.280 and they say will to cream, cream to magic, magic 1045 00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:51.360 to Shaq and Kobe Shaq and Kobe lebron Lebron to Luca. 1046 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.800 For me, it doesn't change my calculus on them this year, 1047 00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.760 but it does reset them for another decade plus. What 1048 00:48:57.880 --> 00:48:59.800 are your thoughts on what appears to be just another 1049 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.559 slam dunk move for the LA Lakers. What does this 1050 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:04.119 mean for them? 1051 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:11.079 I mean, obviously there's the risk of the hell stuff, 1052 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:15.000 but dude, they got the most talented twenty five year 1053 00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.639 old in the least right now, the most I mean, 1054 00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:20.719 this is a boon for the Lakers, and like you said, 1055 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:23.360 it basically played with the Bronus for the next probably 1056 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:25.960 a year and a half and off the Baton. You know, 1057 00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.280 the hope certainly is that he will learn from the 1058 00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.079 barn guy he idolized as a kid growing up in Slovenia. 1059 00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:35.079 That would be wise. Maybe this is the massive slap 1060 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.840 in the face that Luken needs to really just lock 1061 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.840 in to, you know, the around the clock professionalism that 1062 00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.800 you need to put yourself in a position move fully 1063 00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.960 achieved what is just immense potential. But dude, like the 1064 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:52.199 Lakers had to do this and then you know they've 1065 00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.320 got a huge hole center. Now the length was very clear. 1066 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:57.760 That's gonna have to wait until the summer. I can 1067 00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:03.239 assure you this BigMan will be lying enough setting into relations. Oh, 1068 00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:04.599 I can guarantee you that. 1069 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:06.159 No doubt all right. 1070 00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.239 The portion of your reporting that has received the most 1071 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:12.800 amount of tension around here is that the Utah Jazz 1072 00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:17.119 did not know what deal they were facilitating, and according 1073 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:20.360 to what you and Ramona wrote, even Danny had only 1074 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:24.000 about thirty minutes notice. According to your sources. Dave mcminnimon 1075 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.480 coroborated your source yesterday. Dave said his source says the 1076 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.199 Jazz were quote flying blind? 1077 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:33.000 How how like? How does this happen? 1078 00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:36.320 If you're one of the executives of the three teams 1079 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.440 involved with the transaction. Don't you want to know every 1080 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.280 single detail about the transaction, including the fact that you 1081 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:46.079 own their twenty twenty seven first round pick, top four protected, 1082 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:48.960 and suddenly you have just given them the ability to 1083 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:50.639 make sure that pick is probably in the twenties. 1084 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.039 This, to me, Tim is not a great look. So 1085 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:54.079 unpack this for us. 1086 00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.840 Well, listen, I hear what you're saying that you're assuming 1087 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.519 the Jazz are their only options and they want I 1088 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:03.400 can promise you that the first I heard, the first 1089 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:04.960 time I heard rum this was and I got a 1090 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:08.920 fall from another team that say, hey, what are the 1091 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.880 Maps trying to do? They're trying to get us to 1092 00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:16.079 take on a sub five million dollars salary. I think 1093 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:20.280 it's from another team and all those helass they're targeting 1094 00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:23.760 a front court player. And so they were calling around to, 1095 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:25.719 you know, to the handful of teams that were in 1096 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.119 a position to facilitate this. And so it's not like 1097 00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.840 if Danny, if Danny Ainge and Justin Zanner said Okay, 1098 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:33.960 lay them on the brakes, we're not doing this, that 1099 00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.639 the deal falls apart. The deal would have still gotten done. 1100 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.440 The Jazz just would have gotten a couple of second 1101 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:39.239 round picks out of it. 1102 00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:42.000 So with what the Jazz have done over the past 1103 00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.960 few days to transactions really helping teams, the Clippers get 1104 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.320 under the luxury tax, the Lakers get Luca, it appears 1105 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.960 that Danny and Justin are simply willing to trade almost 1106 00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:55.440 everybody on the roster outside of the young kids they like, 1107 00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.599 and obviously marketing if any team is willing to give 1108 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.360 up assets and draft capital, so that leads us. I 1109 00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:03.400 was told this morning John Collins will not be playing 1110 00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:04.480 for the Jazz after Thursday. 1111 00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:05.880 Your thoughts on that that? Of course? 1112 00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.960 Sexton he sprained his ankle last night and Clarkson came 1113 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:10.119 in and actually played pretty well. 1114 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:11.920 I wondered if any GM was watching last night. 1115 00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:14.159 I was like, hey, maybe you can't help, But what 1116 00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.440 do you anticipate between now and Thursday afternoon here in 1117 00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:18.480 Salt Lake from the Jazz. 1118 00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.280 I assure you there are plenty of scouts of Jazz 1119 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:25.239 games these days. I mean they're going to be they're 1120 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:28.639 going to be busy. Collins has certainly played himself to 1121 00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.440 a point where you know there's interest there. I assume 1122 00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:36.000 something probably gets doll with him, and it wouldn't you know, 1123 00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:38.440 if you're asking me about those three guys in particular, 1124 00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:40.840 how many of them are traded, I'd probably put the 1125 00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:42.760 over runner at one point five. 1126 00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:47.039 Yeah, no, that that feels right. The last thing, how 1127 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.440 does the how does the Butler thing play out? What 1128 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.000 are your thoughts on the Jimmy Butler trade. 1129 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.920 I don't have like it's gone from shipping anywhere to 1130 00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:57.440 Phoenix or bus. I just didn't like, dude, I don't 1131 00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.320 see a Phoenix trade. Brad may be able to have 1132 00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.039 to okay it, and there would have to be a 1133 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:02.920 place he wants to go that wants to have them, 1134 00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:05.440 and I don't think that's the case right now. And 1135 00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:09.760 so you know, again, this like clear empowerment has taken 1136 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.960 a pretty strong shift this week. I feel just with 1137 00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:14.599 the way the Jimmy say we'll see you know, the 1138 00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.639 Jimmy stuff it ain't over, but certainly with the way 1139 00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:23.519 that Luca was just blindsided and dumped, and then you know, 1140 00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:26.239 the way this Jimmy saga has played out to this point, 1141 00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:30.639 it does feel like there's been this shift where these 1142 00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.000 are two cases of two superstars we just haven't been 1143 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:34.760 able to get their way. 1144 00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.360 Yeah, well what a wild week, man. You guys have 1145 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:39.280 done a great job. So keep up the great work. 1146 00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:40.840 Ten appreciate the time. We'll set you loose. 1147 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:42.880 Be good, Okay, all appreciate you, brother. 1148 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:47.599 And McMahon covers the He covers the NBA for ESPN. Specifically, 1149 00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:50.199 he's their Mavericks guy. When the jazz are interesting, he's 1150 00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.360 their jazz guy. He wrote a book about Luca that 1151 00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:57.800 actually publishes March twenty fifth, and he and Ramona Shelburne 1152 00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:01.639 wrote that piece about out detailing kind of all the 1153 00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:05.199 happenings how this all went down, and Tim and Ramon 1154 00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:07.599 are the one that reported the jazz had no idea 1155 00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:10.880 exactly which deal they were facilitating. Now, Tim makes a 1156 00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:13.920 good point if the jazz weren't willing to do this 1157 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.320 because I don't know. Like, let's say, Danny and Justin 1158 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:20.199 got a call from Nico, got a call from Rob Polenku, 1159 00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:21.960 by the way, was dressed like he's the lead singer 1160 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.960 of a bad Bond jovie band this morning and said, look, 1161 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.639 we need you to send a little bit of cash 1162 00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.239 in both of our directions. We're going to ask you 1163 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:33.679 to absorb this young rookies, not a very good player. 1164 00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:37.320 It's second you're actually Jalen hood Chafino, and for your troubles, 1165 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.760 we're going to give you two second round picks. And 1166 00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:43.639 what is happening is the Lakers are getting Luka Doncic 1167 00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.280 and really everything else is irrelevant. I mean, if they 1168 00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.519 knew all the details of that trade, do they still 1169 00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:54.079 step in and do it now? To Tim's point, the 1170 00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.119 Dallas Mavericks and the LA Lakers had other options at 1171 00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:59.480 their disposal to try to make this happen. So if 1172 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:01.599 the Jazz didn't do it, they wouldn't have received two 1173 00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:05.360 second round picks. Luca is a Laker, and that twenty 1174 00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:08.639 twenty seven LA Laker top four protected pick doesn't look 1175 00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:10.440 near as good as it did forty eight hours ago. 1176 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:12.239 So we'll see if the Jazz are done prior to 1177 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:13.760 that Thursday trade deadline. 1178 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.280 D track de track alert on a. 1179 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:21.480 Tuesday no hits. We follow the advice of Andy Bernard 1180 00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:24.000 when it comes to Dave Matthews band. All right, he 1181 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:29.760 typically joins us on Fridays. And my initial hypothesis is 1182 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.480 that it's sixty two degrees outside. So Chris Camaradie wanted 1183 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:34.440 to leave his house. But why don't we get you 1184 00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:36.280 on a Tuesday today, not a Friday. 1185 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:37.400 Because I got to leave the house. 1186 00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.360 That's what it is with shorts on, shorts on, I 1187 00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:41.280 got the T shirt on. 1188 00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:44.719 I mean, it's I'm not going to complain about it. 1189 00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:48.639 It's amazing. So I don't obviously want this to happen 1190 00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:53.480 often because we are very reliant on these atmospheric rivers 1191 00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.119 to bless our mountains with water to help, you know, 1192 00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.039 the hotter times of the year. But I don't mind 1193 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:01.800 a couple sixty six If I have degree days in February. 1194 00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:04.000 I think it puts wind in the sales. Yeah, absolutely, 1195 00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:04.719 get you to the end. 1196 00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.039 We already made it through January, so shout out to 1197 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:07.400 the group. 1198 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:08.039 Yeah we did it. 1199 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:10.480 Congrats everybody. And now, to me, February is just the 1200 00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.079 second worst month of the year, shortest month. But it 1201 00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.360 is a short month, agreed. And then we'll get to March, 1202 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:18.440 and ultimately we'll probably still have a lot of cold 1203 00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:20.800 weather and snow in March. But when you get to March, 1204 00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:22.320 you've just kind of made it to the end. 1205 00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:24.480 That's how I feel. I had this conversation with my 1206 00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:28.679 in laws recently and they all disagreed. They all said 1207 00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:31.159 March is too much of a tease in terms of 1208 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.960 the fluctuation of the weather. And I was like, well, 1209 00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:36.360 if that's a teas, then what's what's going on right now? 1210 00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:38.760 It's a big teas because it will snow this weekend's 1211 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:40.679 gonna be freezing next week. But nonetheless, we got you 1212 00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:44.119 out of the house and on schedule release day. 1213 00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:45.360 Oh huge c K. 1214 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:48.159 Schedule release day. 1215 00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:48.320 Here. 1216 00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:52.599 Look, you know, it's an exercise in futility to try 1217 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.159 to analyze whether or not Utah is an easy schedule 1218 00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:57.920 or a hard schedule. Just tell me who was picked 1219 00:56:57.920 --> 00:56:59.840 to finish sixteenth, and then I'll pick them to win 1220 00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:03.199 it like Arizona State, but for the first time since 1221 00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:09.719 nineteen sixty seven, Utah and BYU play in October. It's 1222 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:13.880 October the eighteenth. Now for me, I'm a last year 1223 00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:16.400 the last game of the year guy, and my second 1224 00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:18.880 option would be like first game of the year but 1225 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.800 not buried in the middle. October the eighteenth. And there 1226 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:24.559 were a lot of people in the Big twelve, you know, 1227 00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.960 you hear these things like, oh, well, yeah, we're excited 1228 00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.400 about BYU and Utah and are conference but we don't 1229 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:32.559 really know what that rivalry is all about. And if 1230 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:34.880 last year was the first time you watched that game, 1231 00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:39.199 you were indoctrinated. It was excellent start to finish. Obviously, 1232 00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:41.920 youth fans wish she went the other way. It was close, 1233 00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.039 it was dramatic, the overnight splits were through the roof. 1234 00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:48.760 Millions of people watched it, and there are other rivalry 1235 00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:51.079 games being played later on Arizona Arizona State. 1236 00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.559 It's the final game of the year. So I don't 1237 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:55.199 really have a question. 1238 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:56.840 I just think that's the one thing that stands out 1239 00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.800 of BYU Utah damn, you know, kind of slammed there 1240 00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:00.679 in the middle of October. 1241 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:02.880 Well, since you know I'm a I'm a man of 1242 00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:04.400 the people, I know you are. The first thing I 1243 00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:08.760 thought of was the Big twelve hijacked ue a weekend 1244 00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:13.320 for families. Yes, they did this entire state. I consider 1245 00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.599 that that angle that is a Disneyland weekend, that is 1246 00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:20.639 a fall break, is a very important staple in the 1247 00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:25.679 Utah publico public school calendar. And the fact that that 1248 00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:27.800 is going to be part of the week, I mean, 1249 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:30.039 I think maybe it's not going to keep people from 1250 00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.840 traveling and going to do stuff with their family. It'll 1251 00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:37.400 just presumably make one spouse angry that another spouse is 1252 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:42.079 going to want to hijack theoretical happenings on on the 1253 00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.079 on the vacation. But that's the first thing I thought of. 1254 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.920 I was like, dude, what, Yeah, that's a good point. 1255 00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:49.960 I mean, my wife's a first grade teacher. I'm always 1256 00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:53.079 looking at UEA weekends as a time to potentially get 1257 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:55.000 out of town. It's also around the time my son 1258 00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:57.760 was born. But I think it's ridiculous. 1259 00:58:57.840 --> 00:58:58.000 Man. 1260 00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:01.280 I don't know, like, maybe we'll get some light shed. 1261 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:05.000 I don't know if Brett or Mark will be taking 1262 00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:10.039 questions because I know when he when Utah joined, he 1263 00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:14.400 did like these mini like roundtables with media members in 1264 00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:17.920 various markets, and I was part of one and he 1265 00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:20.639 spoke glowingly of the rivalry, said, it's, you know, one 1266 00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:23.079 of the best in the country as we know it is. 1267 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.199 So the fact that we go from November ninth and 1268 00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.440 year one to October eighteenth and year two, I don't 1269 00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:31.400 I don't really get it, man, I mean that is 1270 00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:37.519 that is basically just it's doing a disservice to the rivalry. Yeah, 1271 00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:39.400 I think it's doing a disservice to the fans. 1272 00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:42.679 And you just brought up another dynamic, which is UA weekend, 1273 00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.039 And you know, I don't know. That's the one thing 1274 00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:48.199 because again analyzing the rest of this stuff, like, hey, 1275 00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:49.480 is it easier is at heart? 1276 00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:50.599 I don't know? Neither do you. 1277 00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.960 So that's the one you're not You're not crushing Cincinnati 1278 00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:56.280 springball tape. 1279 00:59:56.800 --> 00:59:59.519 I mean the issue is, yeah, we'll look at springball stuff, 1280 00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.639 but then another a portal window opens and don't know 1281 01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:04.159 what they even know what they're gonna look like in 1282 01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:04.480 the fall. 1283 01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:05.280 None of these teams. 1284 01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.679 So the BYU game is the one that stands out 1285 01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:13.199 non con UCLA opening week passed it being a little 1286 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.440 Rose Bowl action. And if you want to take a 1287 01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:18.280 road trip, that's probably the option because then it's cal 1288 01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:19.280 Poly here at home. 1289 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:22.800 It would have been cool if they played cal Poly 1290 01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.440 on the road. San Luis Obispo would never happen in 1291 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:28.679 a million years, but an amazing college town. A lot 1292 01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:30.880 of people in each time I'm sure aren't familiar with it. 1293 01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:34.840 It's smack dab in the middle of south central California. 1294 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:38.320 Beautiful place. Had lots of friends in high school, who 1295 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.239 went there. But this is all a preamble to the 1296 01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:42.639 ultimate unveiling. 1297 01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:46.400 Of the third game, Laramie. Wyom have a great Laramie story, 1298 01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:47.400 you do. 1299 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.280 Does it involve fans throwing feces at people? 1300 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:53.199 It does not. It involves the late great Dirk Facer 1301 01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:54.239 trying to save my life. 1302 01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:55.079 Shout out to Dirk. 1303 01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.000 It was the two thousand and eight season they went undefeated. 1304 01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.000 I was the beat writer at the Crowny that year, 1305 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:04.800 and I think the game was in the middle of October, 1306 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.480 so everybody was like, thank god, we got to Laramie 1307 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:14.360 and we're dodging potentially a very sticky situation. It was 1308 01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:16.880 like fifty degree or fifty mile an hour wins in 1309 01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:19.800 that day. It was like a crazy odd game. Nobody 1310 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.440 threw the ball. When we're leaving the stadium, I looked 1311 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.079 out to like the West or whatever, and I've never 1312 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:29.039 seen like a stranger things type like cloud, just pure black, 1313 01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:33.280 and I thought wor screwed because everybody, not only me, 1314 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.599 the DEAs guys, Tribune guys, everybody, they were trying to 1315 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.760 put it home and we you know, looked up and 1316 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:43.000 back then, I don't think the weather on the internet 1317 01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:45.880 was all that much like it wasn't as accurate as 1318 01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:47.760 it was now. So we're like, all right, let's just 1319 01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:52.480 brave it. So we get in our car and we 1320 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:55.119 start to drive home, and within like an hour, it 1321 01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:58.599 is like the worst blizzard I've ever been a part of. 1322 01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:01.519 It was so bad. It got so cold so fast 1323 01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.519 that the roads the roads had about like six inches 1324 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:08.360 of solid ice on top. So we're stuck because there 1325 01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:13.239 was an accident. Obviously, We're stuck between Laramie and Rock Springs, Wyoming, 1326 01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.039 and Dirk is calling us because they were a little 1327 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:17.800 ahead of us, and he was like, did you get through? 1328 01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.159 And I was like, no, man, we're stuck. And he 1329 01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:22.119 was like, all right, well just keep calling me to 1330 01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:23.800 make sure you guys are all right because like we 1331 01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:25.719 you know, you can't like just run your car. You're 1332 01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:27.960 gonna burn gas. And we don't know how long we're 1333 01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:30.119 going to be there. The temperatures are dropping. It's insane. 1334 01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:32.440 Like I got out on the highway was just like 1335 01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:34.079 a sheet of ice. It was like a hockey arena. 1336 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.000 It was the wildest thing. So for hours and hours 1337 01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:39.880 on end, we had to sit there. Eventually we got going. 1338 01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:43.119 We got to Rock Springs at like four thirty am, 1339 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:45.960 and I vowed that I would never, ever, in a 1340 01:02:46.039 --> 01:02:47.760 million years go back to Laramie again. 1341 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:50.559 Well, to your point, the good news is this is 1342 01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:51.679 September thirteenth. 1343 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:56.400 Does that matter though it's sixty six degrees in February. 1344 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:59.760 I guessing, I guess nothing is real I learned which 1345 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:01.480 I did not. No, maybe I should if this game 1346 01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:03.239 has been on the schedule for like ten years? Yeah, 1347 01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:06.000 and so is this the final? Like, hey, okay, we 1348 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.960 did the thing. The deal is complete and no more 1349 01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:09.599 of this nonsense. 1350 01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:12.800 I mean, considering this was made when Utah was a 1351 01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:17.239 Pac twelve team, a home game versus Wyoming makes sense 1352 01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:20.599 because Wyoming is traditionally a decent Mountain West Conference team. 1353 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.199 It is not a bad schedule, and it's not a 1354 01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.519 bad team to have on your schedule. The trip to 1355 01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:28.280 Laramie can be tricky, man, it can be Harry, I 1356 01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:31.440 know BYU handled it last year, don't I don't think 1357 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.599 it's that bad. Frankly for a Utah team that does 1358 01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:36.199 not have a ton of great road games. With this 1359 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:39.480 upcoming twenty twenty five schedule, it's like two out of 1360 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.039 the three first games you can go to and they 1361 01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:44.360 make sense. Pasadena in August, which is going to be great, 1362 01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:48.440 probably hot, and then Laramie in September it'll still be green. 1363 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:49.119 You can. 1364 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:51.760 What can you do in Laramie? 1365 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.320 Wrong? Got a flying Jay's all over the place. 1366 01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:57.159 I mean wrong. I mean I would assume that I'm 1367 01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:59.039 not the type of person that can just walk into 1368 01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:01.360 any sort of establish Schmidt and Laramie and be welcomed 1369 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:01.960 with open arms. 1370 01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:05.039 Maybe wish I could argue with that. Maybe probably probably 1371 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:06.280 following on that one. 1372 01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:10.400 But cool stadium, I'll say it, have you been there 1373 01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:17.960 not for years? Interesting stadium? Yeah? If you're looking to 1374 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:20.960 splash your cash, is it like, do you want to 1375 01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:24.440 drive whatever it is six or seven hours to Laramie 1376 01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:28.880 or do you want to say for a five thousand 1377 01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.000 dollars trip to Morgantown because you got a flight to Pittsburgh. 1378 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:31.320 I don't know. 1379 01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:33.519 Well, again, we are the wrong people. Ask with that 1380 01:04:33.599 --> 01:04:39.599 guy in there. Porters is out front, facing excited about. 1381 01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:41.039 The app Man on the Street. Man on the Street 1382 01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:44.599 interviews every single day, calling in live hits. 1383 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:46.840 So what is uh, what what is calling your heart 1384 01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:50.199 about this potential September weekend trip to Laramie. I just 1385 01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:52.679 like the the open skies of Wyoming. 1386 01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:53.440 I guess I. 1387 01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.320 Listen when you get out on the planes. I've driven 1388 01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.159 through there multiple times in the summer. It is is 1389 01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:04.079 something to behold like from like a this we're at there. 1390 01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:05.920 I don't know what elevation they're at. They're at very 1391 01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:09.719 high elevation. It's just like the planes and you're like, man, 1392 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:14.000 this is like very much the most secluded Division one 1393 01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.280 university in the country. Yeah, like that. I'm all whenever 1394 01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:19.840 I'm there, I'm like, how do they recruit people here? 1395 01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:21.639 What will you be doing with your free time when 1396 01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:22.719 you're not working in Laramie? 1397 01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:24.760 Probably will be spending too much time there. 1398 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:25.119 I don't know. 1399 01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:29.039 Have you ever been except yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I've 1400 01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:31.360 been to Laramie for one football game. I've been to 1401 01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:33.119 Laramie for a couple of rodeos. 1402 01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:37.280 See if there's a rodeo, I'm down right, like if 1403 01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:40.360 you could overlap some stuff in laram Yeah, I mean, 1404 01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:43.079 if there's an event, like I can, I'll throw down. 1405 01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:44.159 I'll go to Laramie with Porter. 1406 01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.719 You want to go, I do not, but I will 1407 01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:49.119 support the two of you in your endeavors headed to 1408 01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:51.920 UH to Laramie, whether it's a football game or a rodeo. 1409 01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:52.840 I think I'm good. 1410 01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.199 But let's pull out the c K Yelp guide, the 1411 01:05:56.840 --> 01:06:00.800 travel Zagat guide and talk about road of options. We 1412 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:03.840 already talked about Pasadena. We just got into Laramie, all 1413 01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:11.119 due respect. Then it's Morgantown, Provo, Waco, Texas, Lawrence, Kansas. 1414 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:15.639 Any hot rex with the other road trip potential. 1415 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:20.199 Never been to any of those places? Yeah, I know, 1416 01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:24.800 I know a lot of good places in Provo. Come on, 1417 01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:27.519 I'll give an underrated shout out to a place that's 1418 01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:31.480 not in Provo. The Purple Turtle, American Fork, great burgers, 1419 01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:35.400 amazing tater tots, like a mom and pop fast food place. Yeah, 1420 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:36.199 the Purple Turtle. 1421 01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:38.360 So hit up the Purple Turtle on the way to 1422 01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:40.320 Provo in America and it makes sense. 1423 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:43.079 Purple. You know, it's the melding of red and blue. 1424 01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:45.159 It's it's a perfect place for people to meet. 1425 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:50.719 Any gut feel on BYU next year, like top preseason 1426 01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:53.480 top twenty five. Where do you think BYU Land fifteen? 1427 01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:58.199 That's fifteen. I'm trying to think how many guys they're 1428 01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:01.159 going to lose to the draft. Didn't lose anybody that 1429 01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:02.599 significant in the portal. 1430 01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:05.840 Conor Pey graduated, Baddie graduated. 1431 01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:07.079 Yeah, I mean so like they have a lot of 1432 01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:09.559 a couple guys in the trenches. Batty was was, you know, 1433 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:12.239 they're arguably one of their best defensive players in Connor was. 1434 01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:16.199 Both guys are team captains. They get Keanu Tonavasa, like, 1435 01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:20.519 that's a huge get. Jake Retzlov has another year in 1436 01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:22.920 aerron system. They still have a bunch of weapons. Chase 1437 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:27.239 Roberts decides to come back. LG. Martin's coming back. They're deep, 1438 01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:31.360 man like, I mean think I think their defense surprised 1439 01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:32.840 a lot of people last year. They turned out to 1440 01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:34.800 be one of the better defensive teams in the Big twelve. 1441 01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:38.000 I don't know what their non con schedule is like 1442 01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:40.719 in twenty twenty five. You might have it pulled up 1443 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:42.159 on your fancy MacBook. 1444 01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:45.039 You talking about BYU. Yeah, yes, I will pull it up. 1445 01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:48.519 It's like Portland's not it's not all that. It's like 1446 01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:50.599 Portland State. They have to go to East Carolina. 1447 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:52.119 Oh that's a tricky one. 1448 01:07:52.199 --> 01:07:54.599 That finishes their deal with them. Yeah, that's what I'm 1449 01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:55.880 almost talking about that earlier. 1450 01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:56.920 Yeah, that's a tricky game. 1451 01:07:57.039 --> 01:07:57.960 So it's Portland State. 1452 01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:01.119 They have Portland State in Provo, the Stanford and Provo 1453 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:04.199 and then they have a September thirteenth by which is 1454 01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:06.559 wild and then they're out East Carolina. 1455 01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:09.079 That's a pretty decent non con schedule. Yeah, if you 1456 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:10.719 think about it. I mean, I know, Stanford is no 1457 01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:13.239 world beater at the moment, Andrew Luck is back at 1458 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:16.520 his alma mater trying to build things as the you know, 1459 01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:19.800 pseudo GM of the football program. But Stanford here and 1460 01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:22.359 then at East Carolina. I mean, there are worst non 1461 01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:23.279 conference schedules. 1462 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.279 BYU is on the road quite a bit as I'm 1463 01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:31.680 reading this. So Portland State home, Stanford home, bye week 1464 01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:35.720 out East Carolina at Colorado home against West Virginia at 1465 01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:39.800 Arizona home against Utah, and then yeah Jack Trice for 1466 01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:41.920 Iowa State, Lubbock. 1467 01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:42.479 For Texas Tech. 1468 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:43.760 Those are tough games. 1469 01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:47.119 TCU at home, Cincinnati on the road, UCF at home. Yeah, 1470 01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:49.640 you couldn't schedule Utah November twenty ninth because you had 1471 01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:50.439 to fit in UCF. 1472 01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:51.880 That's BYU's final game. 1473 01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:53.399 And that was Utah's final game this year. 1474 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:54.159 Right, I don't. 1475 01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:59.159 I don't. I mean, I'm sure trying to get everybody 1476 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:05.079 somewhat pleased with a sixteen team schedule is near impossible. 1477 01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:09.760 But again, if you're the Big Twelve, this is is 1478 01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:12.920 there outside of Arizona State in Arizona? Is there another 1479 01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.319 rivalry within this conference right now? Pay State, Kansas? Yeah, 1480 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:21.439 I mean those are your three. Yeah, But I maybe 1481 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:23.880 I'm biased here. I feel like the casuals will turn 1482 01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:27.720 in for Utah BYU way more than Arizona. 1483 01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:30.880 Arizona State well, and again based off of the debut 1484 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:32.920 of that game in the Big Twelve last year, just 1485 01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:36.239 checked every box. So that's the one thing that's certainly puzzling. 1486 01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:38.039 Dion. 1487 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.800 Without Shador, what does Colorado look like? You know, they 1488 01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:46.279 they had Travis Hunter and Travis Hunter. They according to 1489 01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:47.840 what I read this morning, they have the number one 1490 01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:49.039 QB transfer. 1491 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.399 They got Caden Psalter from Liberty and then but there's 1492 01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:55.159 another and Juju Lewis, who was a five star kid 1493 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.239 who was committed to USC for a very long time. 1494 01:09:57.239 --> 01:09:59.640 Okay, that was the king I read about. So obviously 1495 01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:01.840 di has shown he can get talent. But now that 1496 01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:04.840 you know Travis Hunter and his kid is they're gonna 1497 01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:07.439 move on? What's both you ton buy? You have Colorado 1498 01:10:07.479 --> 01:10:07.800 next year? 1499 01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:08.199 What do you think? 1500 01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.960 I mean, this is the great question that a lot 1501 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:15.399 of people who followed Dion Sanders and follow Colorado are wondering. 1502 01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:18.680 Is for so long Dion was adamant that you know 1503 01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:20.560 the reason why he wanted to do this was to 1504 01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:23.720 coach his sons, and I think a lot of people 1505 01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:26.119 were waiting for the other shoe to drop. When Shador 1506 01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:30.680 and Shiloh and Travis graduated and or moved on to 1507 01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:35.239 their professional aspirations. They did a pretty good job. I mean, 1508 01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.000 you land a five star kid, high school kid, and 1509 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:42.000 then you land one of the best duel threat quarterbacks 1510 01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:44.079 in the portal and Cadence Salter. You could do worse, 1511 01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:47.760 but this it will be a significant step down. I 1512 01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:51.600 think people underestimate how good Shador Sanders was behind a 1513 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:54.439 pretty bad offensive line again for a second year in 1514 01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:56.479 a row, and I know that's been their priority is 1515 01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:01.319 to beef up the offensive line. I'm fascinated to see 1516 01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:04.560 what their rushing attack looks like because I'm not saying 1517 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:07.680 Dion was patting Chador stats, but you could tell that 1518 01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:11.000 their their best option was to go five wide and 1519 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:13.680 to have Shador drop back and throw it to Travis 1520 01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:16.479 or a bevy of those you know, future and NFL receivers. 1521 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:18.800 I don't know what their schedule looks like. I haven't 1522 01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:20.920 looked at it, but nobody's out of it. 1523 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:21.399 Man Like. 1524 01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:26.159 If twenty twenty four taught us one thing, everybody's in play, and. 1525 01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:27.760 I think they have. 1526 01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:30.960 I think they have Georgia Tech at home to start 1527 01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:34.319 their non conference schedule, which is a great non conference game. 1528 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:39.039 But it'll be fascinating, man like. Dion has coached his 1529 01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:42.000 kids since they were nine years old and it's been 1530 01:11:42.119 --> 01:11:47.399 like this for fifteen years. And not only like. He 1531 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.079 literally went from Peewee to prep school, to high school, 1532 01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:54.239 to Jackson State and now to Colorado. 1533 01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.880 The latest mock this is Matt Miller's mock. Have Shador 1534 01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:01.439 going six in the NFL draft and that would be 1535 01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:03.359 to the Vegas Raiders. 1536 01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:05.600 That might be my favorite option. 1537 01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:09.279 There are worse places to go. Listen, it would be 1538 01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:14.000 fascinating to have the ultimate football dad, Dion Sanders have 1539 01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:17.119 to deal with Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly. Yep, two guys. 1540 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:21.000 I'm sure he respects a ton for obvious reasons from 1541 01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:23.680 the fit and scheme point of view for our guy. 1542 01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:25.840 Shout out, John Paul, Uh. 1543 01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:28.319 Sure are going to play for Chip Kelly? I mean, 1544 01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:31.000 there are worse offensive minds to go play for. I mean, 1545 01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:33.640 I think I read somewhere that the Raiders are going 1546 01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:35.880 to pay Chip six million dollars a year to be there. 1547 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:37.880 Oh see, Oh, I guess that's why you leave Ohio 1548 01:12:37.960 --> 01:12:38.640 State after one. 1549 01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:40.560 Which is which is more than Dion is making right 1550 01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:41.479 now at Colorado. 1551 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:45.000 Did you ever think Dion was seriously flirting with Jerry Jones? 1552 01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:45.880 You didn't think so? 1553 01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:46.279 Now. 1554 01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:51.119 I mean I talked to so many people who covered 1555 01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:56.159 the Cowboys and they were like, listen, nobody is ever 1556 01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:58.439 going to be a bigger star in the room than Jerry. 1557 01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:01.960 Jerry might make it seem like, I mean, who knows. 1558 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:05.279 Maybe he was helping Dion out being able to cultivate 1559 01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:12.279 some leverage in his ongoing renegotiation talks with Colorado, because 1560 01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:16.119 Colorado is paying Dion five point seven million a year 1561 01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:18.760 right now, that's a that's a bargain, I think, considering 1562 01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:21.079 what he's been able to do in two years. Now 1563 01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:22.760 the hard part comes, though, to your point, it's like, 1564 01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:26.319 what does Colorado look like post Shador, post Travis Hunter. 1565 01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.479 We're going to see It sounds super cliche, but it's 1566 01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:32.239 like you're really going to see what kind of coach 1567 01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:32.720 Dion is? 1568 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:32.920 Now? 1569 01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:33.960 Yeah, no, for sure? 1570 01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:34.760 What are you? 1571 01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:37.199 I know you're not a scout, but I'm a scout. Well, 1572 01:13:37.199 --> 01:13:39.279 I know you've got Tay. Okay, I know you're gran Tape. 1573 01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:42.520 No're a ball I'm ready shoulder in the NFL. How 1574 01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:43.239 do you think that looks? 1575 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:44.239 Hmm? 1576 01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:49.359 Behind a good line, he's he can be really good man, 1577 01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:56.000 Like he has like tremendous touch, Like he gets the 1578 01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:58.800 ball out so fast unless he's running for his life, 1579 01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:00.880 which he did way too often the last two years. 1580 01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:04.520 But it Yeah, in the right system where he doesn't 1581 01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.119 have to throw it forty five times, I think it 1582 01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:08.760 can be good if he goes to a team that 1583 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:12.439 has an offensive mind at the helm, that understands how 1584 01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:14.760 they want to play, and if they have a decent 1585 01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:18.199 line and a decent running game, Like it's like, yeah, 1586 01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:21.680 all those things generally helps make a quarterback be successful. 1587 01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:24.760 But let's just say like him going to the Raiders, 1588 01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:26.720 which is even crazy to say, like that to me, 1589 01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:29.319 would say like Shador will have more success as opposed 1590 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:33.319 to going to the Titans at one, or the Giants 1591 01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.680 at whatever number they're at, or even the Browns. Like 1592 01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:38.880 I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to a guy 1593 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:40.960 like Pete Carroll who's won a Super Bowl and has 1594 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.199 been to several Super Bowls, and a guy like Chip 1595 01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:46.760 Kelly who just led Ohio State to a national title. 1596 01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:49.800 You have to have somebody who understands what they're doing. 1597 01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:52.800 And that's not the case for Chador. It's for every quarterback. 1598 01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:55.880 So where's cam Ward going to go? Is cam Ward 1599 01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:59.520 going to go to Tennessee and be successful? I don't know, man, 1600 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.920 Like I can't and even tell you who's on that roster. 1601 01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:05.520 Matt Miller has cam Ward off the board at three 1602 01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:09.159 to the Giants. Okay, they need a quarterback. I would 1603 01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:12.039 argue Tennessee needs one too. Abdual Carter the edge Russia 1604 01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:13.840 from Penn State seems to be getting all the love 1605 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:15.880 for the number one pick, Travis Hunter off the board 1606 01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:19.479 of two, cam Ward three, Mason Graham a tackle at four. 1607 01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:22.800 Will Johnson, the Michigan quarterback, corner back at five than 1608 01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:26.079 Shador at six, and he like Jayden Daniels comps there. 1609 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:27.640 Well to see what Jayden did this year. 1610 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:30.039 I mean Shador at times, there's a little bit of 1611 01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:32.640 they're built the same, They're very similar with their measures. 1612 01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.000 Jayden's way more of a like a dual threat. Yeah, 1613 01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:37.840 Like Shador can take off and run if he needs to, 1614 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.880 but he's way more content staying in the pocket and 1615 01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:43.840 waiting for routes to open up. And he's really good 1616 01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:48.359 at delivering the ball on time in you know, difficult, 1617 01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:54.720 difficult circum circumstances. Jayden, I mean, nobody saw it coming. 1618 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:58.840 I mean it's like I remember my year on the 1619 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:01.600 beat for the flete. I think was the year that 1620 01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:03.680 Asu was here, and it was like that rainy day 1621 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:07.319 and Utahs defense just really made him look like the 1622 01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:09.720 true freshman that he was. And then he goes to 1623 01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:12.239 LSU and everything kind of pops off, and then he 1624 01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:16.199 goes to the NFL and has an MVP caliber type 1625 01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:19.199 season in his rookie year. I think we have to 1626 01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:22.199 be careful with the comps because he set the bar 1627 01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:28.079 so high. So does Shador have the capability to be 1628 01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:33.640 as good as Jaden? I don't know, but he's he 1629 01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:35.680 can be a good quarterback if he finds the right team. 1630 01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:38.199 And I do think the Raiders faded somewhat interesting, and 1631 01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:43.039 you know, honestly, yeah, face value. I always kind of 1632 01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.279 roll my eyes when I hear a parent say, well, 1633 01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.479 I will not let my son play for this franchise, 1634 01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:50.720 or you know, we're going to step in to make 1635 01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:54.039 sure that he has the best chance of succeeding. But 1636 01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:56.439 it's happened so many times over the years, and. 1637 01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:01.640 Whenever he said going to Sandy absolutely and. 1638 01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:04.720 Then John Elway back in the day, like and so, 1639 01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:07.520 I don't believe Zach Wilson was going to be a 1640 01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:11.520 great NFL quarterback anywhere he landed. But I always thought 1641 01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:14.159 Sam Donald had in him what he did this year 1642 01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:17.000 in Minnesota, and when the Jets drafted him. 1643 01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:18.199 As a Jets fan, I'm like, all right, we got 1644 01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:18.439 our guy. 1645 01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:20.000 You know you want him to bring him home. 1646 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:22.960 I would love that, really, I love that for me. 1647 01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:26.399 I wouldn't love it for Donald because ultimately, whether it's 1648 01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:30.239 Sam Donald, Zack Wilson, I'll leave Aaron Rodgers out of this. 1649 01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:31.560 I would. 1650 01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:32.199 I would get it. 1651 01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:35.159 Like if if my son Connor was the potential number 1652 01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:37.520 one pick in the draft and the Jets had the 1653 01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:39.039 number one pick in the draft. Even though as a 1654 01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:42.640 Jets fan, I think I'd be tempted to be involved 1655 01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:44.199 to get him to a place where he has the 1656 01:17:44.279 --> 01:17:46.760 best chance to succeed long term. Zack essentially is out 1657 01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:49.880 of the league and Sam luckily had enough, He had 1658 01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:51.399 enough coaches. 1659 01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:53.880 Who got to go to San Francisco and sit behind. 1660 01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:56.359 I think that's a huge There are a lot of 1661 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:59.199 smart football people that love Sam Donald and I don't 1662 01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:01.039 think Zach had that going for him. I don't make 1663 01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:02.800 vegha him a shot, but he was third string all 1664 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:04.279 year and I'm not even sure that they'll be in 1665 01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:05.039 the league next year. 1666 01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:08.319 So I've kind of changed my tune. Like, if you're 1667 01:18:08.319 --> 01:18:09.399 a father and you have a. 1668 01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:13.399 Chance to influence what will chart the course of your 1669 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:16.880 son's future, you do that, even if it's getting involved 1670 01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:19.560 to make sure that he lands with the Raiders to 1671 01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:21.840 play for Pete Carroll as opposed to the Titans or 1672 01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:23.520 whatever it is. I would kind of understand if Dion 1673 01:18:23.560 --> 01:18:24.880 wanted to flex his muscles a little bit. 1674 01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:26.960 Oh yeah, without a doubt, And he has the clout 1675 01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:29.560 and the type of way that I think if he 1676 01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:34.319 when he talks people listen like I think, when you 1677 01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:37.560 have the type of career and the personality like Dion, 1678 01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.479 your words go a long way. And Shadoor too. I mean, 1679 01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:44.079 like being around those guys for the last couple of years, 1680 01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:46.600 it is not hard to see that the apple hasn't 1681 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:51.159 fallen too far from the Treatly, those guys are totally 1682 01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:54.640 understanding of life as a professional athlete, even at you know, 1683 01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.279 the time they were teenagers. All the way up until now. 1684 01:18:57.880 --> 01:18:59.960 You can make an argument that nobody's ever been more 1685 01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:04.279 or prepared from a social standpoint, being in a locker 1686 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:08.199 room understanding the ins and outs of being a professional. 1687 01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:11.560 Then Shador, because he's been around his dad his entire life, 1688 01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:16.119 his dad has kind of treated him as such. So yeah, 1689 01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.079 it's going to be an interesting top part of the 1690 01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:24.119 draft because I'm no expert. But I don't know if 1691 01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:26.920 the Cleveland Browns or the Tennessee Titans are the type 1692 01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:29.560 of franchise where you want to go in and become 1693 01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:30.079 the savior. 1694 01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:30.439 Maybe. 1695 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.159 I mean, if you can become the savior of the 1696 01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:35.319 Cleveland Browns, you'll walk on water. But that's easier said 1697 01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:37.520 than done. Shiloh pro is his other kid, a pro 1698 01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:41.000 special teamer. I mean he might get a late round 1699 01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:42.960 draft or an undrafted free agent. 1700 01:19:43.039 --> 01:19:46.960 But yeah, all right, Utah schedule release, Big twelve schedule release. 1701 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:48.640 We have Chris Camaraddi live in studio. 1702 01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:51.640 We'll do a little bit more college footballs on the 1703 01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:56.119 college football side of things for the athletic snow Outside 1704 01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:58.359 Away from the World twenty twelve. But I mean that's 1705 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:01.000 just me because I'm an expert. But we do follow 1706 01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:04.520 the Andy Bernard rule, deep tracks, no hits. Did you 1707 01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:08.000 see our guy and the band, let's get his mic out. 1708 01:20:08.119 --> 01:20:10.199 Our guy and the band be inducted into the Hall 1709 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:10.920 of Fame to ask. 1710 01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:11.359 You this already. 1711 01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:13.039 I think we talked about this a few weeks ago. 1712 01:20:13.960 --> 01:20:16.279 Yeah, I don't remember what ad for breakfast this morning. 1713 01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:18.800 We're just talking off air. Nothing is real now, but 1714 01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:22.000 Chris Camraadni is live in studio four o'clock hour. Look, 1715 01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.279 I know you're not an NBA guy, okay, and I 1716 01:20:25.399 --> 01:20:28.680 know that you're you're plugging in a college football We'll 1717 01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:31.600 get back to little college football a bit. But what 1718 01:20:31.960 --> 01:20:35.119 has happened this week in pro basketball is truly historic 1719 01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:39.399 and it's never happened before. But for a guy like 1720 01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:41.800 you who once upon a time maybe watch a little 1721 01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:45.520 more pro basketball than he does now. And the data 1722 01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:48.359 is in man, no matter what you want to spin 1723 01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:53.279 as an NBA employee or an NBA person, less people 1724 01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:54.640 are simply watching pro basketball. 1725 01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:56.479 They just are. I have my own theories about it. 1726 01:20:57.079 --> 01:20:59.840 And as we approach the end of football seasons to 1727 01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:02.239 Super Bowl, you know, the Sunday, and then we move 1728 01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:04.880 into football offseason, the numbers will grow. They always do. 1729 01:21:06.359 --> 01:21:10.760 But does news like this reverberate with you at all? 1730 01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:14.439 That Luka Donci, a twenty five year old generationally special player, 1731 01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:18.520 has been traded to the Lakers. Does that do anything 1732 01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:20.359 for a non NBA guy like yourself. 1733 01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:25.560 I'm gonna risk myself sounding super nerdy, but like to me, 1734 01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:30.640 I'm way more fascinated like what ends up being reported, 1735 01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:36.000 like how how each side basically tries to construct and 1736 01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:39.239 control various narratives as to why something's happened and why 1737 01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:40.399 some things didn't. 1738 01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:42.239 I did. 1739 01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:44.960 I like to listen to press conferences because one I 1740 01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:50.279 think for reporters it's really important to learn to ask simple, succinct, 1741 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:54.279 easy questions but with meaning. And I watched some of 1742 01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:59.159 Luka Doncic and Rob Polinka's press conference today, and you 1743 01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:00.880 know a lot of those guys as you know you 1744 01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:03.880 have some of these guys on your show, did it. 1745 01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:07.119 We're pretty direct in asking Luca and Rob like some 1746 01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:10.399 of these theories of why Luca got traded and why 1747 01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:13.680 he might have been on the block, And it's fascinating 1748 01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:15.640 to me. We we live in this world where and 1749 01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:18.279 I'm obviously as a reporter myself, like you have to 1750 01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:22.479 try to always tell the truth and find the right 1751 01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:25.720 people to talk to. But yeah, and the meat in 1752 01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:28.199 the Meeta after math, I was wondering, like, who who 1753 01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:30.479 is going to take control of the spin zone with this? 1754 01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:35.239 And immediately I was texting my brother in law, who's 1755 01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:38.479 a diehard Mavericks fan, and I was like asking him. 1756 01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:39.960 I was like, how do you explain this to Sasha, 1757 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.239 my nephew who's who's nine and loves and loves the 1758 01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:44.560 maths Like they live in northern California. They went and 1759 01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:47.600 saw Luca play in Sacramento like two months ago. He 1760 01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:49.079 has a Luca jersey. I was like, how do you 1761 01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:51.720 explain this to him? And he was like it's hard, man, like, 1762 01:22:52.119 --> 01:22:53.960 this is this is part of the dad life where 1763 01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:55.760 it's like, yeah, sometimes things. 1764 01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:57.000 Don't work out, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1765 01:22:57.319 --> 01:22:58.640 But then I told him, I was like, hey, well, 1766 01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:00.159 I mean that you can look at it from a 1767 01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:02.640 glass half full point of view, And I said, you 1768 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:04.479 could tell him, and you can tell me if this 1769 01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:07.239 is wrong. But like, aren't the MAVs in theory going 1770 01:23:07.319 --> 01:23:11.920 to be a better team this year on paper with 1771 01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:17.359 Anthony Davis then if healthy, then with Luca and Kyrie? 1772 01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.319 Yeah, potentially, Okay, I would say no, just because Luca. 1773 01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:25.720 I've never really seen a player at Luca's age impact 1774 01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:29.319 the game the way he impacts it. In five years, 1775 01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:32.479 five first team All NBA selections, five All Star Games, 1776 01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:35.840 he was thirty five, eleven and nine last year in 1777 01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:38.600 the playoffs and led them to the finals. He actually 1778 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:40.920 led the NBA in minutes played if you combine the 1779 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:44.199 regular season in the postseason last year. Okay, mile Ta like, 1780 01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:46.359 he must be such a royal pain in the ass. 1781 01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:49.479 It's the only thing that makes sense from a basketball standpoint. 1782 01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.199 It doesn't make sense at all in my opinion. Now, 1783 01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:55.439 maybe it frees up Kyrie a little bit, and Anthony 1784 01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:57.720 Davis is really good. I mean, Luca is so good 1785 01:23:57.760 --> 01:24:00.600 that we're talking about Anthony Davis like he's Curtis, you know, 1786 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:02.560 the big the jazz here that had horrible feet. 1787 01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:03.800 He's a really good player. 1788 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:04.680 Ben hand logged in. 1789 01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:07.520 Good shout out, Ben hand logged in on a Tuesday. 1790 01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:09.000 It's never a bad time to get a Ben hand 1791 01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:13.399 logged and shout out. And maybe it ups there, you know. 1792 01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:16.319 Bottom line this year a little bit, but moving forward, 1793 01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:19.239 Like I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, you know that. 1794 01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:22.439 And usually when somebody is, I kind of roll my eyes, 1795 01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:26.359 whether it's sports or politics or religion. But the Lakers 1796 01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:31.520 man Wilt to Kareem. Kareem's your bridge, Kareem to Magic. 1797 01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:34.199 Magic was your bridge, Magic to Shaq and Kobe. There's 1798 01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:35.640 your bridge, Kobe and Shack. 1799 01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:40.199 To Lebron, Kobe and Shack to Kobe and Powell Correct, correct, Champion. 1800 01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:40.960 Just another bridge. 1801 01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:44.840 And now the bridge is Lebron to Luca and it's 1802 01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:48.159 the If you're a Lakers fan, it is the perfect 1803 01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:50.800 You could not have hand picked a better player to 1804 01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:54.079 step in and run your team after Lebron is done, 1805 01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:56.159 whether that's this year or the year after. Lebron has 1806 01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:58.720 a player option to play for the Lakers. For one 1807 01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:00.760 more year. My guess is he he wants to play 1808 01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:03.439 for one more year. I mean he always he already 1809 01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:05.720 got his kid in the league, and poor kid can't play. 1810 01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:08.239 I kind of feel bad for him, But ultimately I 1811 01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:10.680 think you get Lebron for one year next to Luka. 1812 01:25:10.760 --> 01:25:11.680 We'll see how that works. 1813 01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:14.720 There's some redundancy, but that's the type of redundancy you 1814 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.479 want because they're both brilliant and they're both geniuses with 1815 01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:18.359 making decisions. 1816 01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:20.520 Has there ever been redundancy at that level in the 1817 01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:22.880 NBA and have it worked to a championship level? 1818 01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:24.039 Good question. 1819 01:25:24.359 --> 01:25:27.840 I mean when you think about teams with a couple 1820 01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:30.319 of great like heatles, you know, I was gonna say, 1821 01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:33.119 the one interesting thing you talked about is Lebron played 1822 01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:35.560 with peak Dwayne Waighte like in his prime Dwayne Way 1823 01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:39.640 and those two figured it out right, And so I've 1824 01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:41.960 never been I've always pushed back on the whole, like, well, 1825 01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:44.000 they both need the ball, so they can't play together. 1826 01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:46.359 Like no, especially in today's NBA works it's like just 1827 01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:49.119 try to just use your skill to get open. Nobody's 1828 01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:52.239 running these complex sets. It's like give no house set 1829 01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:53.920 the screen, get around him, give me. 1830 01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:56.279 The talents, and then we'll figure it out. I've always 1831 01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:58.640 been that guy. So even though there is a little 1832 01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:00.600 bit of redundancy between the two, there are two of 1833 01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:03.520 the top I don't know four or five decision makers 1834 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.000 in the history of the game, and at twenty five 1835 01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:09.199 you do not make this trade. It truly is wild. 1836 01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:11.760 And I haven't talked to anybody around the league that 1837 01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:14.199 saw this coming. Everybody is just completely. 1838 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.279 Seeing I think that's like fascinating to me more than 1839 01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:19.199 like the encore part my job. It's like, in this 1840 01:26:19.399 --> 01:26:23.720 day and age, how did Nico Harrison and Rob Polinka 1841 01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:25.840 basically keep this under wraps? I mean Rob basically said 1842 01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:28.000 in his press conference today, he was like, it was 1843 01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:30.840 made clear that if this got out, if this was 1844 01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:33.239 leaked at all, we would not go forward with this trade. Yeah, 1845 01:26:33.319 --> 01:26:35.720 so it was basically two old friends that knew each 1846 01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:38.960 other going back to their you know, Rob days with 1847 01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:43.640 with Kobe and Nico's days at Nike and ownership groups obviously, 1848 01:26:43.800 --> 01:26:48.159 but yeah, what's it going to do for the league though? 1849 01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:50.039 That's that's my points. Like to you, I asked you 1850 01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:51.600 that off there, and you're like, people will maybe watch 1851 01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:52.479 more Lakers games. 1852 01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:55.600 Yeah, but like, what do you think Rob Polinka does 1853 01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:59.439 at night when he's not working. There's something off about 1854 01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:02.359 that dude. He was dressed like he was the lead 1855 01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:04.880 singer of a bad bon Jovie band. For the press conference. 1856 01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:05.720 There's some jail. 1857 01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:09.079 The jail pointed downward is the is the first question 1858 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:14.119 that I have that the tight leather jacket unzipped on 1859 01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:16.600 both ends a little bit, it was a secondary one. 1860 01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:20.119 But listen, man, Like, when you're living that la elite lifestyle, 1861 01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:22.000 you got to keep up with the with the joneses. 1862 01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:23.640 I'm thinking, if you go to the Viper room on 1863 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:26.279 a random Tuesday morning at like one am, there's a 1864 01:27:26.399 --> 01:27:29.680 chance Polinka just comes limping out of the restaurant. 1865 01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:31.880 You don't You don't think he's, you know, playing some 1866 01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:34.199 pickup on Santa Monica. 1867 01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:36.600 No, I get vibes from him. The bodies are buried somewhere. 1868 01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:37.239 I'm not gonna lie. 1869 01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:38.760 He's a good rob blow. 1870 01:27:39.359 --> 01:27:42.760 He does look a lot like bl but but but ultimately, 1871 01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:45.560 does this up the bottom line of interest for the league? 1872 01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.880 I mean, over the past twenty four or forty eight hours, 1873 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:51.680 the highest downloaded articles on ESPN's dot com or all 1874 01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:54.199 this Luca is this Luca trade. Everybody's talking about it, 1875 01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:58.640 all right? Moving over to our local pro basketball team. 1876 01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:02.920 When you're in a family gathering or you're hanging out 1877 01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:05.079 with friends and they know that you cover sports, what 1878 01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:07.239 do they ask you? What do they say to you 1879 01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:09.720 about you get me free tickets? Outside of of course 1880 01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:12.159 being mooches, because they all are, but outside of wanting 1881 01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:14.960 pre jazz tickets? What what's the jazz take around town 1882 01:28:15.079 --> 01:28:17.720 right now? It's tough, isn't It's a tough scene. 1883 01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:23.880 I think, apoplectic, Like I don't. I don't know if 1884 01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:26.479 there is a vibe right now, I think, and again 1885 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:29.880 for if there is a faction of jazz fans that 1886 01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:33.239 are frustrated that the franchise is where it is, I'll 1887 01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:36.399 give my unsolicited opinion that people don't care about It's 1888 01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:39.680 like they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. Listen, Like, 1889 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.279 even if you would have been able to keep Rudy 1890 01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:46.800 or keep Donovan one of those guys, if you would 1891 01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.640 have been able to build around the edges, those guys 1892 01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:51.399 weren't going to be able to compete with some of 1893 01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:53.640 these teams that have been constructed in the Western conference 1894 01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:56.479 right now. They just couldn't, Like I wouldn't take those 1895 01:28:56.520 --> 01:29:02.239 guys over Memphis over the young Houston team obviously. Okay, see, 1896 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:06.079 like the list is pretty long, so and and and 1897 01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:08.520 I guess I'm gonna bob and weave a little bit. 1898 01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:10.560 Going back to Luca, It's like, I think the reason 1899 01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:14.840 why people are so upset in Dallas is because they 1900 01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:20.000 probably realized that they struck lottery twice. They had Dirk 1901 01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:22.720 and then I don't know how many years between Dirk 1902 01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:25.319 and Luca, but it couldn't have been more than two handful. 1903 01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:27.840 I want to say, did Dirk play with Luca one year? 1904 01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:28.479 Yeah? 1905 01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:31.680 I mean maybe to check ESPN stats and info or 1906 01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:35.640 guy like, it just doesn't happen in this league. So 1907 01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:39.159 the fact that you had a player like that on 1908 01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:42.680 your team the face of the franchise. It's so difficult 1909 01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:45.079 to land those guys in the first place. And I'm 1910 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.560 not even comparing Luca to to Donovan because we know 1911 01:29:47.640 --> 01:29:50.560 Luca is a generational player and Donovan's a good he's 1912 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.479 a good NBA player, He's an one. 1913 01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:54.279 One season together. 1914 01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:57.840 Yeah, but it is so hard, especially in markets that 1915 01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:01.840 aren't LA and not you know, New York. But that 1916 01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:04.920 being said, if you do look at the kind of 1917 01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:08.239 the powers that be now, it's in the East Eastern 1918 01:30:08.279 --> 01:30:16.000 Conference obviously Boston, but Cleveland, Milwaukee not destination towns. Oklahoma City, Houston, Memphis, 1919 01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:18.920 and the West not destination places. It's all about how 1920 01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:20.840 you build, and the Jazz have to build and they 1921 01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:23.479 we honestly don't know if they have any building blocks 1922 01:30:23.560 --> 01:30:26.119 right now beyond lowry marketing. I guess you could make 1923 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:30.279 an argument for Walker Kessler. Yeah, but your two bigs 1924 01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:34.319 in twenty twenty five do not solve your problem because 1925 01:30:34.359 --> 01:30:37.560 the game is now, who are your six foot seven, 1926 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:39.520 six foot eight, six foot nine wing players and the 1927 01:30:39.640 --> 01:30:41.079 Jazz need to find those well. 1928 01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:45.279 And to your point about this not necessarily happening very 1929 01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:49.479 often in pro basketball, you just have to rely on 1930 01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:53.119 savvy planning and then luck. You just have to like 1931 01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:56.640 because it has happened in other places, it just hasn't 1932 01:30:56.680 --> 01:30:59.920 happened here. The only time the Jazz have been built 1933 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:02.319 correctly and they've been able to win at a high level, 1934 01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:06.319 you had some very smart talent evaluators find some very 1935 01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:08.520 very high value in places in the draft that you 1936 01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:11.199 don't typically find it. John and Carl mid late first round, 1937 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:14.920 go Baart twenty seven, Donovan late lottery, even Hayward Lade lottery, 1938 01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:18.279 millsap second round, like most of our best players, if 1939 01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:21.279 not all of our best players. Darren top five pick, 1940 01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:25.439 but he's the outlier right anytime they like they I 1941 01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:28.039 think Cantor was the third pick, like that was you 1942 01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:32.000 blew that one. But most of the value they found 1943 01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:34.920 have been mid lottery, laid first round, sometimes in the 1944 01:31:34.960 --> 01:31:38.119 second round. And when you look at the markets to 1945 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:41.840 your point where you have to be analogous with Salt Lake, Denver, 1946 01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:44.760 was your cousin who drove up to Idaho and about 1947 01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:47.119 the lottery ticket and then the powerball numbers hit because 1948 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:48.640 they got Jokich at forty three and he is the 1949 01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:51.840 best player in the world. Milwaukee Giannis mid first round. 1950 01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:57.720 You know, so something like that needs to fall into place. 1951 01:31:57.600 --> 01:31:59.960 For the Jazz and you need a couple huge dominoes. 1952 01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:02.439 Yes, And the most likely way to do that in 1953 01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:05.439 a market like Salt Lake is simply having a top 1954 01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:08.239 pick like san Antonio did. 1955 01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:10.920 I always draw the san Antonio example. 1956 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.279 I have done this for years because people will say, well, 1957 01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:14.800 you can't do it in Salt Lake, and I'm like, 1958 01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:17.039 have you been to San Antonio? 1959 01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:17.600 Tape? Man? 1960 01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:18.640 I like san Antono. 1961 01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:19.800 I liked it the first. 1962 01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:20.279 Couple of times. 1963 01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:22.279 Then it's like, Okay, are we doing nachos in the 1964 01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:23.159 river walk again? 1965 01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:23.600 Okay? 1966 01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:26.479 Yeah, I'm with you. Tech the text mix if you 1967 01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:29.079 find the right spots there. But yes, I'm with you. 1968 01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:32.439 Okay. So I would prefer saw Lake over San Antonio. 1969 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:34.960 Then when you look at the you know, the media numbers, 1970 01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:38.720 they're a smaller market than we are. But San Antonio 1971 01:32:39.479 --> 01:32:42.439 David Robinson first overall pick, Tim Duncan, first overall pick. 1972 01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:44.479 You talk about Laker bridges, Okay, now we have San 1973 01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:46.359 Antonio bridges, and now they have Victor wemban Ya. 1974 01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:47.520 I'm a number one overall pick. 1975 01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:50.279 They had three opportunities to draft the number one player 1976 01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:51.840 overall and they've knocked it out of the park all 1977 01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:53.960 three times. And the Jazz have never had the number 1978 01:32:53.960 --> 01:32:55.640 one overall pick. It just is going to take a 1979 01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:57.159 little san Antonio type lady. 1980 01:32:57.239 --> 01:32:57.439 Luck. 1981 01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:02.199 Yeah, they've they've chosen wisely when it comes to choosing 1982 01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:04.279 to be bad, right, because I think the year that 1983 01:33:04.439 --> 01:33:08.520 they chose Duncan, I think Robinson was really hurt the 1984 01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:11.479 year before or was it the lockout No. 1985 01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:13.720 No, the lockout year was the year they won the 1986 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:16.600 title over Latrell Springs all in Houston and the New 1987 01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:20.000 York Knickerbockers. But the year Duncan was a senior at 1988 01:33:20.039 --> 01:33:23.439 wake Forest. As the story goes, David Robinson reported a 1989 01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:25.520 camp and he was like, hey, I'm good, and they're like, well, 1990 01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:29.600 actually you're not not. Your back really hurts, and so 1991 01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:32.239 he wanted to play that year and they basically said, 1992 01:33:32.359 --> 01:33:34.359 just watch this kid at wake Forest. That's why you're 1993 01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:37.640 not playing. But again, you need the lottery, lucky, best 1994 01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:39.720 laid plans a side seek. Yeah, you still need the 1995 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:40.640 luck to fall your way. 1996 01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:42.560 It's funny if that's true that they told like the 1997 01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:46.119 most in shape giant human in the history of the world. 1998 01:33:46.279 --> 01:33:50.920 Like I remember like in Awe of David Robinson who 1999 01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:52.920 was like seven to one and was like cut like 2000 01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:56.039 a bodybuilder, and the stuff that he could do. But anyways, 2001 01:33:56.600 --> 01:33:58.840 my question to you, and this is where we're getting 2002 01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:02.079 really sports talk, redo, why doesn't the NBA follow the 2003 01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:05.800 NFL model where the worst team gets the best top pick, Like, 2004 01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:08.399 do you think there's a world in which the NBA 2005 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:09.479 could go that route. 2006 01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:12.359 Well, once upon a time that was talked about, and 2007 01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:15.800 the fear is that too many teams would just be unserious. 2008 01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:18.600 Well that's what they're always they're doing anyways. 2009 01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:20.680 Yeah, and the NBA would tell you their spin is 2010 01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.560 they're trying to avoid the tanking that is so clearly happening. 2011 01:34:24.159 --> 01:34:26.640 Yeah. The irony to me is that in the NFL, 2012 01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:29.720 I'm sure there are some tankers, but like for the 2013 01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:34.720 most part, people are trying way harder than in the NBA. 2014 01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:37.880 And the NBA has the lottery system. It's just iron Yeah. 2015 01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:41.119 The way the NFL is set up, really top to 2016 01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:46.000 bottom is a better business model. It's not as favorable 2017 01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:48.960 to the players, right, And so this is an unpopular take. 2018 01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:52.560 If if a pro athletes listening to the show, because really, 2019 01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:59.199 the guaranteed contracts in pro basketball change the way players decided. 2020 01:34:58.880 --> 01:34:59.720 To approach their job. 2021 01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:03.840 There was a time, Chris, where NBA players honestly needed 2022 01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:06.159 paychecks on the first and the fifteenth of every month, 2023 01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.159 and if they didn't show up and play in games, 2024 01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:13.000 they weren't paid, right, and they needed the money they 2025 01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:17.039 really did. Now, what's Lebron need another dollar for it? 2026 01:35:17.079 --> 01:35:19.079 And not just Lebron. You can go down the list. 2027 01:35:19.159 --> 01:35:21.119 A lot of these players will never have to work 2028 01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:23.640 a day in their life, and neither will four generations 2029 01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:26.279 behind them. And at the end of the day, that's 2030 01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.640 a good thing because there were too many oligarchs making 2031 01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:30.880 millions on their backs and so I'm all for the 2032 01:35:31.479 --> 01:35:34.279 basketball related income split that goes to the players. Now, 2033 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:37.479 the NFL simply doesn't do that. There are very few 2034 01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:39.800 guaranteed deals. There are more now than there used to be, 2035 01:35:40.439 --> 01:35:42.000 but for the most part, you got to show up, 2036 01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:43.760 you got to play hard so you can earn your paycheck. 2037 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:45.880 And that leads to teams, even if they're trying not 2038 01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:48.680 to be great, employing players that are playing their ass 2039 01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:51.119 off every week, and that's why you get more parody. 2040 01:35:51.359 --> 01:35:53.640 It's a better business model for the viewer. 2041 01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:56.800 Which is why the NFL has the best TV show 2042 01:35:57.039 --> 01:35:58.399 when it comes to sports period. 2043 01:35:58.479 --> 01:35:59.319 End of story, it just does. 2044 01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:03.039 Do you think if the NBA adopted the worst to 2045 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:07.039 first model, do you think that would expedite the process 2046 01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:13.399 of teams rebuild Teams that need to rebuild faster, like 2047 01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:16.039 the Jazz or like the Wizards. Do you think that 2048 01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:18.079 would help the parody. 2049 01:36:19.159 --> 01:36:22.399 Maybe is the answer. It's tough because another model that 2050 01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:25.119 I've seen thrown around is simply you just cycle it 2051 01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:28.079 every year, just you know, Okay, the Jazz have the 2052 01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:29.920 first pick next year, then they go to the thirty 2053 01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:31.640 second pick next and then they move up, you know, 2054 01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:34.479 and then they just kind of rotated that way. This 2055 01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:36.840 is one way where you flatten a lottery odds. And 2056 01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:39.119 so you're trying to avoid the the you know, the 2057 01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:42.119 the tanking stuff at the end. And maybe if you 2058 01:36:42.399 --> 01:36:45.000 just did worst gets first, you would have some interesting 2059 01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:47.399 games where you could watch where teams are just really 2060 01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:49.439 horrible and like the Trainers playing point. 2061 01:36:49.279 --> 01:36:49.920 Guard or something. 2062 01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:53.159 You know what, man, I just go back to promotion relegation. 2063 01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:54.880 Let's just bring it to the NBA. 2064 01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:57.760 It would be communist man, it would rule that you 2065 01:36:58.199 --> 01:37:02.199 I mean, that's a reality check podcast, it is. 2066 01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:05.680 Man, but that would rule all right. 2067 01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:08.520 So Jazz basketball, Steph Curry and Town tomorrow night they 2068 01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:11.159 lost the Pacers last time. NBA trade deadline comes and 2069 01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:16.960 goes on Thursday afternoon. There actually is something that you 2070 01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:20.119 shared that you actually wrote about recently, and it's interesting 2071 01:37:20.119 --> 01:37:23.000 because I talked about on the show. I believe college 2072 01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:25.960 football games should be played on college football campuses. Yea, 2073 01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.479 and I believe that should go for every single game, 2074 01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:32.720 maybe besides the National championship game. You make that your 2075 01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:35.359 super Bowl. We've already talked about the Joel Clatt thing. 2076 01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:37.960 He wants the Rose Bowl to be the college football 2077 01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:40.479 super Bowl. He's not wrong, and I think it would 2078 01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:43.039 be really cool. Yeah, and then every game prior to 2079 01:37:43.359 --> 01:37:46.439 the Rose Bowl super Bowl for college football is played 2080 01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:48.640 on a college campus, because that's, to me, is one 2081 01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:51.399 of the things that makes college football amazing. You did 2082 01:37:51.439 --> 01:37:55.720 a deep dive though on what it cost fans, namely 2083 01:37:55.800 --> 01:37:56.600 Notre Dame fans. 2084 01:37:56.840 --> 01:37:59.039 It was I talked to fans of each of the 2085 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:02.960 four semi finals teams who had gone to various playoff games, 2086 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:05.279 whether they were all of them or a few of them. 2087 01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:07.560 So give us an idea of what that economic impact 2088 01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:09.279 was like if you were a fan of a team 2089 01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:11.479 and had to go to multiple venues to see them 2090 01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:12.239 play in the CFP. 2091 01:38:12.800 --> 01:38:13.039 Yeah. 2092 01:38:13.159 --> 01:38:16.800 So the Notre Dame fan I talked to was awesome 2093 01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:20.319 because she's based in Pittsburgh, isn't a lum, isn't a 2094 01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:23.159 season ticket holder, so she doesn't have the inn in 2095 01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:28.600 terms of maybe a not as significant hit from a 2096 01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:32.119 ticket's point of view. But she went to the home 2097 01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:36.039 game against Indiana. She went to the Sugar Bowl against Georgia, 2098 01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:40.640 the semi final against was it Penn State maybe Pensteam, Yeah, 2099 01:38:40.840 --> 01:38:42.359 and then they went to the National She went to 2100 01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:46.199 the National championship game against Ohio State, and you know, 2101 01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:49.199 bless her heart, she was awesome. She's a diehard Notre 2102 01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:51.960 Dame fan, and she just basically broke down, like down 2103 01:38:52.039 --> 01:38:54.279 to the dollar, how much everything costs. And I don't 2104 01:38:54.319 --> 01:38:55.520 have it pulled up in front of me, but it 2105 01:38:55.600 --> 01:38:57.680 was a lot of money. Yeah, And it's the type 2106 01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:02.880 of money that do you remember when we were kids 2107 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:06.720 and it was like your parents would be like, one day, 2108 01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:08.960 I'm going to take you on that once in a 2109 01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:12.439 lifetime trip to wherever. Like that was like I remember 2110 01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:14.760 that being the conversation when I was a kid. This 2111 01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:16.520 is kind of what I equated it too, Like this 2112 01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:20.479 is probably fans that have been saving or have the 2113 01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:22.680 means to be able to splurge when they see the 2114 01:39:22.800 --> 01:39:28.000 moment present itself. And you know, to me, the tickets 2115 01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:32.640 weren't as expensive as everything else. Like it's it's the 2116 01:39:32.760 --> 01:39:37.600 last minute flights, it's the hotels, it's the miscellaneous stuff, 2117 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:43.560 the lifts, that everything. And to your point, I think 2118 01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:46.319 you could be able to curb the cost of so 2119 01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:50.880 many fans emptying their pockets for this stuff. But at 2120 01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:53.119 the same time, I think one thing we often and 2121 01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:55.159 I did this when I first started working on this piece. 2122 01:39:55.359 --> 01:39:57.880 We can't all assume that that fans are lums of 2123 01:39:57.960 --> 01:40:00.880 schools live in that town anymore. So like a lot 2124 01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:02.880 of these folks of the friend you know, fans of 2125 01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:04.960 these schools like that. The Ohio State fan I talked 2126 01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:07.880 to is a is a special education teacher in Santa Monica, 2127 01:40:08.039 --> 01:40:09.479 and he still went to everyone. You know, it's like 2128 01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:13.319 you find a way. But everybody that I talked to 2129 01:40:13.439 --> 01:40:15.159 I asked him that question. I said, like, would you 2130 01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:18.840 like to see the model morph from what it is 2131 01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:22.920 now to having home games up until the national championship game? 2132 01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:26.159 And pretty much everybody said yes. The Notre Dame fan 2133 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:28.920 said like, I would like that, but because we're an independent, 2134 01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:31.039 it's not currently set up that we would be able 2135 01:40:31.079 --> 01:40:34.000 to because you know, we know the system currently favors 2136 01:40:34.039 --> 01:40:39.840 the conference champions. My only thing, and I think the 2137 01:40:39.920 --> 01:40:42.600 reason why this would never happen. Is college football as 2138 01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:45.840 a whole is way too embedded in its relationship with 2139 01:40:45.920 --> 01:40:50.439 those high profile bowls? And if we're talking about I mean, 2140 01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:52.880 you remember like that Penn State SMU game was like 2141 01:40:52.920 --> 01:40:56.600 ten degrees. Are you really going to keep risking that 2142 01:40:56.840 --> 01:41:00.359 going deeper and deeper into December and January? I think 2143 01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:03.000 that I think the product potentially being hurt would be 2144 01:41:03.279 --> 01:41:06.520 very a reason for apprehension for the powers that be. 2145 01:41:07.079 --> 01:41:11.520 So the breakdown, and this is the lady, the Notre 2146 01:41:11.600 --> 01:41:14.920 Dame alum, and is this just did she have family 2147 01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:15.880 with her? Is this just her? 2148 01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:16.520 Just her? 2149 01:41:17.079 --> 01:41:19.359 So? Can you imagine if you're traveling with like a 2150 01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:22.399 family force. So, this is what it cost one Notre 2151 01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:27.800 Dame fan to attend Indiana, Georgia, Penn State, and Ohio State. 2152 01:41:27.880 --> 01:41:31.880 Ohio State first round against Indiana tickets, lodging, miscellaneous, one 2153 01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:36.279 thousand and sixty two quarterfinal UGA, same stuff, one eight 2154 01:41:36.359 --> 01:41:40.560 hundred ninety five semifinal, Penn State, same stuff, one thousand, 2155 01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:44.319 seven hundred and twenty five championship game against Ohio State 2156 01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:47.199 twenty five hundred dollars. She spent seven thousand, one hundred 2157 01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:50.199 and eighty two dollars to attend four Notre Dame games. 2158 01:41:50.279 --> 01:41:54.680 Yeah, and I think her name is Christy. It is okay. 2159 01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:59.680 Christy had an inn of sorts because some of her 2160 01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:03.079 group of friends are more high profile donors, and at 2161 01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:05.960 Notre Dame, if you the more you donate, the more 2162 01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:09.000 likely you are to get a friendly budget hit when 2163 01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:13.279 it comes to tickets. So that worked out great for them. 2164 01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:16.279 It probably was a lot more tickets wise for other 2165 01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:18.880 people who aren't in that realm. But like, what was 2166 01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:23.239 crazy is looking at the data from the last few playoffs, 2167 01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:26.680 there haven't been that many games where the tickets, even 2168 01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:28.680 as you got into the semi finals in the finals 2169 01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:34.279 were really out of you know, extraordinary value. But this 2170 01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:36.960 Ohio State Notre Dame game was nuts. I think it 2171 01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:40.279 was like at one point, I think game during the 2172 01:42:40.359 --> 01:42:43.000 game day, like at like seven or eight am, like 2173 01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:44.920 tickets were like already in like the three to four 2174 01:42:44.960 --> 01:42:47.239 thousand dollars range. But I mean a lot of that 2175 01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:50.920 the factors are, like you're talking about regional rivals to 2176 01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:54.119 Midwest teams. Notre Dame hadn't been there. I think in 2177 01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:56.800 like eleven years. Haven't won a national title since nineteen 2178 01:42:56.840 --> 01:42:59.079 eighty eight. So there are a lot of mitigating factors there. 2179 01:42:59.119 --> 01:43:01.520 But yeah, yeah, I mean just for one person, like 2180 01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:04.039 seventy one hundred bucks, and then, like you said, if 2181 01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:06.600 you want to take a spouse and a couple of 2182 01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:10.119 kids like shoot man, like you might as well take 2183 01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:11.479 out a second mortgage on your house. 2184 01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:13.439 It's a lot to ask, Yeah, it really is. And 2185 01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:16.960 you know, it's interesting in college football fans. It's just 2186 01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:19.319 I don't know, if you get older, you just realize 2187 01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:24.359 most of these things, and maybe you don't understand entirely. Politics, football, 2188 01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:28.000 religion is so much about community. Yeah, right, and that's 2189 01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:30.039 really all it is. In a lot of ways, even 2190 01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:32.600 people don't even care to intellectualize the community they're in. 2191 01:43:32.720 --> 01:43:34.640 They just want to be in it, yeah, you know, 2192 01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:36.359 and so they don't give a rip if weird things 2193 01:43:36.399 --> 01:43:38.880 are happening at the White House or if weird things 2194 01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:40.520 are happening in college football. They just want to be 2195 01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:41.880 in the They want to wear the red hat and 2196 01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:43.399 feel good when they go out, that's kind of it. 2197 01:43:43.640 --> 01:43:43.840 Yeah. 2198 01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:45.840 And they want to flash to you, yeah, and they 2199 01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:47.079 want to flash to you whatever it is. 2200 01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:48.479 Yeah, that community. 2201 01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:52.640 Yeah, I was surprised to know this most expensive tickets 2202 01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:55.199 round one Indiana and other. 2203 01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:57.000 Name I mean the proximity. 2204 01:43:57.239 --> 01:43:59.920 Yeah, like you could have also history, the first year history. 2205 01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:05.039 Yeah, and like they the folks who were either legally 2206 01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:09.159 or illegally selling tickets, Yeah, could just inflate those numbers 2207 01:44:09.199 --> 01:44:12.399 to an ungodly level because when is Indiana going to 2208 01:44:12.439 --> 01:44:15.720 get back there? Maybe maybe they will, But like I 2209 01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:18.079 think Bloomington is a three hour drive to South Bend. 2210 01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:20.159 Like the fact that they were so close, it was 2211 01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:22.359 just a no brainer for people to be able to 2212 01:44:22.920 --> 01:44:26.359 take advantage of our capitalistic market. 2213 01:44:26.119 --> 01:44:29.479 Place, indeed, the neoliberal capitalistic takeover. But look, when you 2214 01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:32.640 had been indoctrinated into a community and you love being 2215 01:44:32.720 --> 01:44:35.920 part of that community, You're fine spending this money. 2216 01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:36.079 Oh. 2217 01:44:36.159 --> 01:44:37.720 Everybody I talked to is like, I do it again. 2218 01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:38.520 I do it in a heartbeat. 2219 01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:40.800 You're gonna buy the shoes, You're gonna buy the bibles, 2220 01:44:40.840 --> 01:44:42.800 You're going to buy the tickets. You're going to shell 2221 01:44:42.840 --> 01:44:44.880 out the cash because you want to be part of 2222 01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:45.600 that community. 2223 01:44:45.640 --> 01:44:48.319 Well, and for so many of these schools this year 2224 01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:50.479 at least, like like I said, this is potentially a 2225 01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:53.319 once once in a blue moon type deal. Like for 2226 01:44:53.439 --> 01:44:57.880 the Ohio States or Texas's they'll be back and they'll 2227 01:44:57.880 --> 01:45:00.000 have home games. But for a lot of these schools, 2228 01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:02.720 like I mean, I remember there was a in real 2229 01:45:02.840 --> 01:45:06.920 time SMU was trying to get to Stay College. But 2230 01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.000 because it's so hard to get there, like a boot 2231 01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:12.119 like a plane of really rich boosters were like late 2232 01:45:12.199 --> 01:45:15.079 getting to this private airport and they were being busted 2233 01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:17.760 there privately, and like I think they eventually got there 2234 01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:19.439 for like the third quarter, but by the time they 2235 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:21.079 got there, the game was out of hand. It's like, 2236 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:22.680 you just go for it if you can. 2237 01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:26.439 All right, before I set you loose. The Utah Hockey 2238 01:45:26.520 --> 01:45:29.359 Club has narrowed their list of name options. What are 2239 01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:32.199 we at so fans can go through the motion of 2240 01:45:32.279 --> 01:45:34.520 pretending to vote for the name tonight one more time 2241 01:45:34.640 --> 01:45:36.039 and then just give qual Tricks your info. 2242 01:45:36.159 --> 01:45:38.600 Then they'll do whatever they want. That's the bottom line. 2243 01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:43.319 But anyway, the exercise is thought to allow these people 2244 01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:48.279 to potentially vote on Utah Hockey Club, Utah Mammoth, and 2245 01:45:48.359 --> 01:45:50.800 then the Utah Outlaws. And we learned that Porter's distant 2246 01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:53.640 cousin is Billy the Kid or who is it? It's 2247 01:45:53.880 --> 01:45:56.199 it's one of the Outlaws. I'm gonna wait till you 2248 01:45:56.199 --> 01:45:59.279 get it right. Which Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid 2249 01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:01.880 and the wh Old Bunch Porters related to Butch Cassidy. 2250 01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:04.560 So we did a twenty minute history lesson on Outlaws 2251 01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:05.399 in Utah last week. 2252 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:11.840 Who's the dude who was the like the henchman for 2253 01:46:11.960 --> 01:46:13.640 Brigham Young Porter? 2254 01:46:14.079 --> 01:46:16.199 Porter Rockwell is his namesake? 2255 01:46:16.239 --> 01:46:16.520 Okay? 2256 01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:18.199 So another I don't even know is it? 2257 01:46:18.399 --> 01:46:18.600 Yep? 2258 01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:20.520 My third great grandfather we talked about was like his 2259 01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:23.920 best friend. So we So what I before I go, 2260 01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:25.720 I want to know your votes for the name Utah 2261 01:46:25.760 --> 01:46:28.880 Hockey Club. I keep going back and forth. I'm kind 2262 01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:31.239 of like a dinosaur fossil nerd as well as like 2263 01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:34.079 an outlaw nerd. So I'm kind of cool with either one. 2264 01:46:34.439 --> 01:46:36.199 And Spence has kind of gotten me on board with 2265 01:46:37.079 --> 01:46:39.439 Utah Hockey Club being a decent option as well. So 2266 01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:43.000 I'm going to currently vote for Outlaw, but I'm I'm 2267 01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:46.319 going either way. So we in this state we are 2268 01:46:46.439 --> 01:46:50.520 known for having dinosaur fossils. The mammoth thing I don't 2269 01:46:50.560 --> 01:46:54.039 really understand, particularly like I don't know when when was 2270 01:46:54.039 --> 01:46:56.159 the last time if we ever have had a Mammoth 2271 01:46:56.199 --> 01:46:59.079 Fossil Here. I'm gonna be with Porter, but I'm gonna 2272 01:46:59.079 --> 01:47:02.199 go hockey club. One outlast to Mammoth is out for me. 2273 01:47:02.399 --> 01:47:05.199 Okay, I think I've landed on that as well. We 2274 01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:06.880 just did an hour with Well Tracey. 2275 01:47:06.920 --> 01:47:07.920 We didn't even talk about the. 2276 01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:10.720 Trays in Santa Barbara. 2277 01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:13.600 So they're in Coachella. Man, Oh, that's right, they're in 2278 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:17.159 Coachella now. I bet Pobs is tripping on something. 2279 01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:19.239 Listen, let's tripping on formations. 2280 01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:23.880 Little Jack, little Jack Johnson, Den Harper on the speaker. Oh, 2281 01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:27.800 golfing with Pobs man the music that comes. We had 2282 01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:29.600 a we had a couple of Jason Moraz tunes. 2283 01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:30.880 Oh yeah, you've told me about that. 2284 01:47:31.239 --> 01:47:31.680 That was rough. 2285 01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:32.960 That's okay, No, it's not. 2286 01:47:33.319 --> 01:47:36.159 It is. There has to be a line, Jason Maras 2287 01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:37.640 has to be the line. There has to be a line. 2288 01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:40.199 You're offending Dave Fox in here, give me a I'm 2289 01:47:40.239 --> 01:47:42.840 sure Fox loves Maras. I can see Fox in a Fedora. 2290 01:47:44.079 --> 01:47:46.000 What's what's what's going on right now with give me 2291 01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:47.600 a quick thought on the lads on Situlus. 2292 01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:49.760 I think it's two weeks from today. They they're down 2293 01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:54.119 in Costa Rica's right conquered cass. Yeah. Quick thought is 2294 01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:58.439 they got worse this offseason? Yeah, they did, and there's 2295 01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.760 no really other way to spin it. And I think 2296 01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:05.239 the fan base is probably very bummed out because for 2297 01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:07.359 a long time they were waiting to have the type 2298 01:48:07.359 --> 01:48:11.159 of roster constructed that they had last year, and to 2299 01:48:11.239 --> 01:48:14.520 see it dissipate in eight months is probably pretty heartbreak. 2300 01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:18.800 Yeah, you're not buying the spin goals by committee, thirty 2301 01:48:18.840 --> 01:48:19.960 five year old keeper good with. 2302 01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:22.479 His I mean it's MLS dude, who knows like they 2303 01:48:22.520 --> 01:48:24.760 could for all that we know, like they could get 2304 01:48:24.840 --> 01:48:26.439 the seventh seed and go on a run to MLS 2305 01:48:26.479 --> 01:48:28.119 Cup next year with a bunch of with a bunch 2306 01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:29.960 of dudes. I mean, I guess we know some of them, 2307 01:48:30.079 --> 01:48:31.640 but like I don't know. 2308 01:48:32.279 --> 01:48:35.119 Christopher, Great to see you. It's still sixty two. Did 2309 01:48:35.159 --> 01:48:37.359 you did you can? Did you ride the bus? 2310 01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:40.520 Should have? Oh wow, I had to run errands before We'll. 2311 01:48:40.439 --> 01:48:41.520 Get home safe man. Good to see it. 2312 01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:41.880 Thanks man. 2313 01:48:42.319 --> 01:48:45.199 I'm trying to think when you would really want to 2314 01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:48.199 listen to music like this, like a road trip, driving 2315 01:48:48.439 --> 01:48:52.279 long distances. Dave Fox is live in studio all right, 2316 01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:55.199 which hipster EDM band? Did you bring us today? First 2317 01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:57.800 of all, there is a connection here is this is Cascade. 2318 01:48:57.840 --> 01:48:59.960 Have you ever heard that name? I have heard of Cascade. 2319 01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:02.840 I actually have a Cascade song on a playlist to mind. 2320 01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:05.000 What do you know about Cascade? The only that the 2321 01:49:05.119 --> 01:49:07.000 song I have is called Fine Love and it's actually 2322 01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:07.479 quite good. 2323 01:49:07.479 --> 01:49:10.000 Okay, that one? That was Fine Love. But he's a 2324 01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:12.840 universe of Utah graduate. And in honor of the UTES 2325 01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:15.680 schedule and BYU scheduled coming out today, I thought I 2326 01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:17.840 would play you of you grad Cascade. 2327 01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:18.760 What's his real name? 2328 01:49:19.239 --> 01:49:22.159 Honestly, I don't know. Okay, it's definitely not cast I 2329 01:49:22.199 --> 01:49:23.079 would be his last name? 2330 01:49:23.159 --> 01:49:23.640 I don't. 2331 01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:25.800 I don't know. I know him as Cascade as you do. 2332 01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:29.840 Do you have any insight info on the Cascade? Is 2333 01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:31.640 he like a DJ? Is that what it is? And 2334 01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:33.479 it's it's a Cascade? 2335 01:49:33.560 --> 01:49:34.520 K A S K A D. 2336 01:49:35.039 --> 01:49:35.560 I did that song. 2337 01:49:35.560 --> 01:49:37.720 It's called on your Mind, by the way, okay, sweet, Well, 2338 01:49:38.079 --> 01:49:40.119 so there you go, because I was on your mind 2339 01:49:40.279 --> 01:49:42.640 today you were not. But you're live in studio. Thank 2340 01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:45.960 you for having me last night on You're Always. It's 2341 01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:48.000 a lot of fun. Great, Yeah, you ripped through that nicely. 2342 01:49:48.079 --> 01:49:50.960 Shout out to timmy our guy. He wrote four of 2343 01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:52.239 the five questions yesterday. 2344 01:49:52.279 --> 01:49:54.279 Dave, he writes all the questions every time. 2345 01:49:54.399 --> 01:49:56.640 That's not true, but he did. He's been doing a 2346 01:49:56.720 --> 01:49:59.960 lot lately because he's he's just creative. 2347 01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:01.920 And I like to expand because if you if the 2348 01:50:01.960 --> 01:50:04.439 same guy does it every week, it might get stale 2349 01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:07.920 or every other week, and so I'll bring him in 2350 01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:09.119 for a month or two and then. 2351 01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:11.439 I'll then you'll let Leonard do it and then kids, 2352 01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:14.399 why don't you try doing it one time? Well, I've 2353 01:50:14.520 --> 01:50:17.039 done it a lot, David. David, you are a hero. 2354 01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:17.680 Okay. 2355 01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:22.159 In our business you have people, no kids, listen up. Okay, 2356 01:50:22.239 --> 01:50:24.880 If if you want to look up to somebody in 2357 01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:27.960 this market that is in sports media, you should look 2358 01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.319 up to Dave Fox. He somehow has found a way 2359 01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:33.560 to create like a forty year career while never putting 2360 01:50:33.560 --> 01:50:36.239 it in one ounce of work at all. And I'm 2361 01:50:36.319 --> 01:50:38.119 not bringing that up to knock on. You want bringing 2362 01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:40.600 that up to say, you, sir, are a hero. Well, 2363 01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:43.960 thanks for that. Yeah, So that's amazing. That's gone that long. 2364 01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:46.720 You got your guys writing questions. You just show up 2365 01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:49.720 and you're the face and you let Mikolic do all 2366 01:50:49.760 --> 01:50:51.560 the hard work. You never leave the studio. You have 2367 01:50:51.680 --> 01:50:54.399 dinner delivered to the studio. Dave, you are a pioneer, 2368 01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:57.239 my friend. You know, I haven't gotten into that part yet. 2369 01:50:57.640 --> 01:50:59.560 Now that you mention it, what's up the whole door 2370 01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:02.640 Dash Dot DoD I've never done that well because it's 2371 01:51:02.680 --> 01:51:04.920 like thirty seven dollars for a brew. Yeah, I mean 2372 01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:08.079 I go get I drive down the street. But there's 2373 01:51:08.119 --> 01:51:11.039 some people that live with that. Yeah, leave your house 2374 01:51:11.199 --> 01:51:13.680 because hey, the restaurants don't like it. And be true, 2375 01:51:13.960 --> 01:51:16.600 I'm dead serious. Restaurants don't like DoorDash. I no, no, 2376 01:51:16.880 --> 01:51:19.399 they don't like DoorDash at all because DoorDash charges them 2377 01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:22.319 fees and then customers complain that the food is so expensive. 2378 01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:25.239 They've order a burrito from door Dash tonight it will 2379 01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:27.279 be twenty seven dollars. I'm not gonna kid it. I 2380 01:51:27.279 --> 01:51:29.199 don't even not on account. I'm not gonna do it. 2381 01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:32.520 All right, you referenced the Big twelve college football schedule release. 2382 01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:34.840 Let me just ask you right off the top. October eighteenth, 2383 01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:38.479 Utah Day, the last time BYU and Utah played football 2384 01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:41.000 in October. It was nineteen sixty seven, you were forty 2385 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:41.640 one years old. 2386 01:51:41.720 --> 01:51:44.039 It is bizarre. Why are we doing it? 2387 01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:46.840 I thought last year, after them not putting them at 2388 01:51:46.840 --> 01:51:48.560 the end of the season, there was some talk of all, 2389 01:51:48.680 --> 01:51:50.800 we should have done that, we'll get it right. 2390 01:51:51.039 --> 01:51:52.359 And then what do they do the next year They 2391 01:51:52.439 --> 01:51:54.960 move it up even further. Remember last year, I believe. 2392 01:51:54.680 --> 01:51:58.079 It wasn't the first Saturday in November November ninth, Yeah 2393 01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:01.000 maybe so, yeah, you're right, it was second Saturday November. 2394 01:52:01.039 --> 01:52:03.159 But and then now they've made it even worse. I 2395 01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:06.199 don't understand how, in this day and age of college 2396 01:52:06.279 --> 01:52:11.199 rivalries and how great rivalries are, they think that Utah 2397 01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:15.159 playing Kansas and BYU playing Central Florida, which by the way, 2398 01:52:15.239 --> 01:52:17.199 is how Utah ended last season. Although at least b 2399 01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:20.439 why you gets to be home is makes sense, at 2400 01:52:20.479 --> 01:52:22.720 the end of the season, it makes no sense at all. 2401 01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:25.880 I don't understand why. Maybe even I don't know if 2402 01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:28.199 the athletic directors have some input, Maybe they don't want 2403 01:52:28.239 --> 01:52:29.119 to play it at the end of the year. 2404 01:52:29.119 --> 01:52:29.720 I don't know. 2405 01:52:30.199 --> 01:52:33.000 But it's it's sad and I and none of us 2406 01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:36.600 can be that thrilled about October eighteenth. It's really while 2407 01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:40.600 it's the one thing because look, trying to analyze what 2408 01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:42.840 the Big twelve will look like this year in football 2409 01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:46.159 on February fourth is an exercising futility. Tell me who 2410 01:52:46.199 --> 01:52:48.399 you pick sixteenth so I can pick them to win? 2411 01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:51.000 Right So, I don't know if it's a hard schedule. 2412 01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:53.880 I don't know if it's an easy schedule. Comparing Utah 2413 01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:56.279 to BYU, I'm not really even sure exactly how to 2414 01:52:56.399 --> 01:52:58.560 do that right now. I mean there's some metrics well 2415 01:52:58.720 --> 01:52:59.760 that you can utilize, like the. 2416 01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:02.560 And P plus. But we'll have spring football, then we'll have. 2417 01:53:02.600 --> 01:53:05.800 Another transfer window, and come fall the team could look 2418 01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:08.079 completely different. It's impossible to know whether or not this 2419 01:53:08.199 --> 01:53:09.920 is an easier hard schedule. But the one thing that 2420 01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:13.199 jumped out at me, Dave, was BYU Utah. And it 2421 01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:15.319 doesn't matter if it's an easier or hard schedule. It 2422 01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:18.039 doesn't matter who how good or bad these teams are 2423 01:53:18.079 --> 01:53:20.920 going to be. We know what that game is, no 2424 01:53:21.079 --> 01:53:24.640 matter what, no matter if they're over or undefeated. We 2425 01:53:24.800 --> 01:53:25.680 know what that game is. 2426 01:53:25.760 --> 01:53:26.439 We saw it this year. 2427 01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:29.640 It was a great game, and BYU was had a 2428 01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:32.079 better team on paper coming into it, So I don't 2429 01:53:32.119 --> 01:53:33.880 know why they don't just do that now. If you 2430 01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:38.319 use this year's schedule or teams as any sort of 2431 01:53:38.359 --> 01:53:41.079 a barometer, Utah has a really tough finishing schedule with 2432 01:53:41.319 --> 01:53:44.920 both Kansas schools. But other than that, you're right, there's 2433 01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:48.119 no way to tell other than you know, Kansas should 2434 01:53:48.159 --> 01:53:49.920 be playing Kansas State at the end of the season. 2435 01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:52.640 Utah should be playing BYU at the end of the season. 2436 01:53:52.720 --> 01:53:54.319 That's just the way those things should be. And I 2437 01:53:54.359 --> 01:53:56.520 don't know how long it's gonna take the Big Twelve 2438 01:53:56.600 --> 01:53:58.560 to figure that out, but I hope sooner than later. 2439 01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:00.920 Yeah, I mean, they have Arizona on a state final 2440 01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.279 game of the year. And your point about last season 2441 01:54:03.399 --> 01:54:05.159 is a good one because I can remember we even 2442 01:54:05.199 --> 01:54:07.800 had some Big Twelve guests on the show and some 2443 01:54:07.920 --> 01:54:10.720 college football like Josh Pate, who now has a really 2444 01:54:10.840 --> 01:54:14.920 massive college football podcast. He was in town prior to 2445 01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:17.760 the Florida game, and I asked him, have you ever 2446 01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:19.439 been to a Utah BYU game? And he said, no, 2447 01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:21.520 you know, but I know you know obviously if you 2448 01:54:21.560 --> 01:54:23.479 know college football, you know it's a big time rival. 2449 01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:25.600 Then first year in the Big Twelve, a lot of 2450 01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:27.399 Big twelve people were kind of like, all right, let's 2451 01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:29.640 see what this is about. And they could not have 2452 01:54:29.720 --> 01:54:32.680 had a better introductions what this thing is. And by 2453 01:54:32.720 --> 01:54:34.680 the way, what it is. Nine times out of ten 2454 01:54:35.199 --> 01:54:37.800 the only time it's not like it was last year. 2455 01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:40.479 If there's a massive talent gap like Utah in two 2456 01:54:40.520 --> 01:54:43.159 thousand and four, more often than not, this is down 2457 01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:46.600 to the wire, last possession thing. It's always sold out. 2458 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:49.560 It was highly watched, highly viewed because it was a 2459 01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:53.079 good television window. It checked every single box. And not 2460 01:54:53.239 --> 01:54:56.399 to be you know, not to make a hyperbolic statement 2461 01:54:56.479 --> 01:55:00.319 or be a sensationalist, but my concern about the future 2462 01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:01.600 of college football. 2463 01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:04.279 And I'm not a you know, sound the alarm. This 2464 01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:05.359 sport is in trouble guy. 2465 01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:07.479 I think Saturday's in the fall are always gonna feel 2466 01:55:07.479 --> 01:55:10.119 like Saturday's in the fall. But my concern things like 2467 01:55:10.239 --> 01:55:13.720 this indicate the people that are making decisions are losing 2468 01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:16.279 track of what makes college football special. And at the 2469 01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:19.279 top of the list are rivalries because they are different 2470 01:55:19.319 --> 01:55:21.840 than your pro football rivalries. And this one's so unique 2471 01:55:21.840 --> 01:55:25.159 because by us forty miles that way. You have to 2472 01:55:25.239 --> 01:55:27.119 take care of the things that make your sports special, 2473 01:55:27.159 --> 01:55:28.720 and rivalries to me are at the top of the list. 2474 01:55:28.840 --> 01:55:31.359 Well, and what's even more frustrating about it, and your 2475 01:55:31.439 --> 01:55:35.039 point is well taken. They witnessed it, they saw it. 2476 01:55:35.439 --> 01:55:38.239 You referenced night two thousand and four. Yes, that was 2477 01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:40.479 the Urban Meyer blowout year when they ran the table, 2478 01:55:40.760 --> 01:55:42.920 but twelve months prior to that, it was a three 2479 01:55:42.960 --> 01:55:46.079 to nothing game, right, I mean, and you know the 2480 01:55:46.279 --> 01:55:47.000 same coaches. 2481 01:55:47.760 --> 01:55:48.720 I don't know. 2482 01:55:48.920 --> 01:55:50.680 I mean, you could hit these guys over the head 2483 01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:52.119 with a two by four, and it seems like they're 2484 01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:54.880 not paying attention. If I'm not mistaken, I think there 2485 01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:57.760 were a number of people on the national level that's 2486 01:55:58.119 --> 01:56:01.079 after this year's Utah BYU came out and said, wow, 2487 01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:03.800 that should have been the end of the season, because 2488 01:56:03.800 --> 01:56:06.920 it frankly should have, and they've just brushed it aside 2489 01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:07.840 and here we go again. 2490 01:56:08.039 --> 01:56:08.560 Yep, yep. 2491 01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:11.920 And so you know, obviously, that to me is the 2492 01:56:12.039 --> 01:56:13.399 main takeaway. Awful. 2493 01:56:13.640 --> 01:56:15.720 Well, the other the other thing, I'm sorry to interrupt you, 2494 01:56:15.800 --> 01:56:20.479 the Utah's awful pre season schedule or non league schedule 2495 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:23.119 I should say, I shouldn't say awful, But okay, they 2496 01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:26.119 go to UCLA, fine cal Paly here, and then how 2497 01:56:26.199 --> 01:56:27.680 in the world are they going to Laramie. 2498 01:56:28.239 --> 01:56:32.039 So Bill joined us earlier, and he provided some clarity 2499 01:56:32.119 --> 01:56:35.039 because Porter is very excited to spend a number of 2500 01:56:35.159 --> 01:56:37.560 days and hours in Laramie. Yes, we're gonna send him, 2501 01:56:37.800 --> 01:56:39.319 not just for the game, but I'm gonna give him 2502 01:56:39.319 --> 01:56:40.920 the week off and he's just gonna go live there 2503 01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:42.600 because that's the kind of guy. 2504 01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:43.199 Our guy is. 2505 01:56:43.359 --> 01:56:45.439 He kind of looks like a Laramie guy though. That's 2506 01:56:46.159 --> 01:56:49.880 I mean, the beard, you know, the mountain mans hair. 2507 01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:52.560 I'm gonna take it as a compliment, just so that's 2508 01:56:52.600 --> 01:56:54.760 just switch that R on your hat to an L 2509 01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:55.760 and you'll be right at home. 2510 01:56:55.880 --> 01:56:57.800 Okay, So we're gonna send Porter. He's gonna be a 2511 01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:00.439 man on the ground. But Bill said, this game has 2512 01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:03.079 been scheduled for nearly a decade, so this is long. 2513 01:57:03.199 --> 01:57:05.600 So it's like, so Tom Holmer talked about this earlier. 2514 01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:05.920 Tom. 2515 01:57:07.119 --> 01:57:09.199 You know, so Byu was out East Carolina this year 2516 01:57:09.840 --> 01:57:11.800 and at first glance, it's like, why are we doing this? 2517 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.479 And Tom said, no, it's we're we're making good our 2518 01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:15.760 agreement with East Carolina. 2519 01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:18.039 And my understanding is Utah is doing the same thing. 2520 01:57:18.079 --> 01:57:18.880 With Wyoming. 2521 01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:21.479 Have you covered a game in Laramie? Oh, yeah, several times. 2522 01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:23.800 I was at the game in Laramie urban Meyer, I 2523 01:57:23.840 --> 01:57:25.800 believe it was his first year when the power went out, 2524 01:57:26.359 --> 01:57:28.880 you were at that stadium. I was actually at that game, 2525 01:57:29.279 --> 01:57:31.479 and it was irritating because we were driving and we 2526 01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:33.239 were going to drive home that night after the game, 2527 01:57:33.399 --> 01:57:36.319 and as you know, the game got delayed wite a while. 2528 01:57:36.439 --> 01:57:38.840 Wyoming wanted to little side story on this, and I 2529 01:57:38.920 --> 01:57:40.359 was down there on the field while they were talking. 2530 01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:42.960 They wanted to re or finish the game the next day, 2531 01:57:43.359 --> 01:57:45.000 and urban Meyer was having none of that. 2532 01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:45.239 Yeah. 2533 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:49.119 Yeah, he was like, no, we're finishing this game tonight. 2534 01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:52.439 Figure it out. And they did, and then they got 2535 01:57:52.520 --> 01:57:55.039 out of town. How would that have even worked? Fans 2536 01:57:55.079 --> 01:57:58.800 would have to find like a motel, and especially in Laramie. 2537 01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:01.840 How long is that drive? Oh gosh, Porter, is it 2538 01:58:02.079 --> 01:58:04.159 four and a half hours? Feels like it's longer than 2539 01:58:04.319 --> 01:58:07.439 maybe five. It's not as far as Denver. It's not 2540 01:58:07.479 --> 01:58:09.000 as far as Denver. Oh, you know, you're right, it 2541 01:58:09.119 --> 01:58:10.840 is more than that. I think it's like five or 2542 01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:15.399 six and it's and it's lovely scenery. Eighteen hours an 2543 01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:18.279 eighteen hours riot that one porter. I need you to 2544 01:58:18.319 --> 01:58:20.079 look up how far away Denver is and how far 2545 01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:22.760 Laramie is. Laramie's like five and a half six hours, 2546 01:58:22.800 --> 01:58:25.239 that's what I thought, Okay, but but Denver's not eighteen hours. 2547 01:58:25.319 --> 01:58:26.399 How far away is Denver. 2548 01:58:26.479 --> 01:58:29.039 It's only a couple more hours from Laramie. It's due 2549 01:58:29.079 --> 01:58:30.000 so way further. 2550 01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:33.079 To look it up our ESPN's and you can also 2551 01:58:33.359 --> 01:58:35.760 you can also drive through the mountains if it's summertime. 2552 01:58:35.960 --> 01:58:36.439 Yes you can. 2553 01:58:36.479 --> 01:58:39.319 And it's very pretty our ESPN stats and info apart 2554 01:58:39.479 --> 01:58:41.960 closer to eight on Denver. I used to live in Aspen. 2555 01:58:42.039 --> 01:58:43.359 I know where, I know where it is. Well, that's 2556 01:58:43.359 --> 01:58:45.640 a that's a new thing. When did you live in Aspen? 2557 01:58:45.760 --> 01:58:48.000 When I first started, I lived in Glenwood Springs, which 2558 01:58:48.039 --> 01:58:49.279 is about twenty miles from after. 2559 01:58:49.439 --> 01:58:54.039 That's not Aspen. It's you want to sound cool, I said, 2560 01:58:54.079 --> 01:58:56.880 Glenwood Springs. Aspen is a point of reference. You wanted 2561 01:58:56.960 --> 01:58:59.680 to sound cool that you lived. I was very close 2562 01:58:59.720 --> 01:59:02.720 to ass It's like there, there's only eight hours. Yeah, 2563 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:06.680 oh interesting, not that far anyway? All right, so terrible 2564 01:59:07.119 --> 01:59:09.319 will you? Oh wait, so of course you're you're gonna 2565 01:59:09.319 --> 01:59:10.279 send michel Itch to Laramie. 2566 01:59:10.319 --> 01:59:10.720 You're not going. 2567 01:59:10.760 --> 01:59:12.880 Oh, I don't think we're even send anybody. You don't 2568 01:59:12.880 --> 01:59:16.159 send anything. You won't send anybody. No, we'll cover it 2569 01:59:16.239 --> 01:59:18.000 off TV. We're not your cover that game. What's the 2570 01:59:18.039 --> 01:59:20.359 point of covering that game? Because it's U tough football, Dave, 2571 01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:22.079 and people care about it. We don't travel that much 2572 01:59:22.359 --> 01:59:24.920 until postseason. Yeah, but Mikolitch, you would want to go 2573 01:59:24.920 --> 01:59:27.239 to Laramie. I don't think so. You will fly Fish. 2574 01:59:27.439 --> 01:59:30.079 We may want to do the opener at UCLA. Well, 2575 01:59:30.159 --> 01:59:32.520 And you know what, you're not wrong about the non 2576 01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:36.560 con And I am one this is an unpopular opinion. 2577 01:59:37.720 --> 01:59:39.960 When these games go away, I'm gonna be fine with 2578 01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:43.960 it now that it's not awesome for a program like 2579 01:59:44.079 --> 01:59:46.159 cal Poly. He's gonna come up here and collect a 2580 01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:48.199 five hundred thousand dollars check or whatever it is to 2581 01:59:48.279 --> 01:59:51.479 go fund their ad, you know, athletic department. And I 2582 01:59:51.560 --> 01:59:54.000 feel bad for the schools that actually need these games 2583 01:59:54.039 --> 01:59:56.199 to fund their athletic department, but they just don't do 2584 01:59:56.319 --> 01:59:58.720 anything for me. And I don't think it's good for 2585 01:59:58.960 --> 02:00:02.279 the bigger programs to potentially lose players to injury and 2586 02:00:02.319 --> 02:00:06.119 all that stuff. But the UCLA opener, it's not bad, no, 2587 02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:07.840 because at least it's a Big ten team. 2588 02:00:07.880 --> 02:00:08.800 They were down last year. 2589 02:00:08.840 --> 02:00:10.880 They lose their quarterback, it was a first year coach, 2590 02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:14.479 and look, UCLA should be good every year. I say 2591 02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:16.159 the same thing about Cal football. You should be good 2592 02:00:16.159 --> 02:00:18.319 every year you're in that recruiting footprint. I don't know 2593 02:00:18.359 --> 02:00:20.279 what they're gonna be, but you could do worse as 2594 02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:22.199 an opener than the Rose Bowl against UCRE. 2595 02:00:22.239 --> 02:00:25.359 Anytime you're power four versus power four, that's a good thing. 2596 02:00:25.439 --> 02:00:27.199 I have absolutely no problem with that. By the way, 2597 02:00:27.279 --> 02:00:30.119 it'll be toasty down there in August for sure, especially 2598 02:00:30.359 --> 02:00:31.439 up there in that air. 2599 02:00:31.560 --> 02:00:32.119 The neighborhood. 2600 02:00:32.319 --> 02:00:35.520 BYU's kind of got the same situation, although they open 2601 02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:37.720 with Portland State, as you know, But then I believe 2602 02:00:37.800 --> 02:00:40.520 it's Stanford right after that, so that's not quite so bad. 2603 02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:42.640 I mean, it's the same kind of thing. That's just 2604 02:00:42.720 --> 02:00:43.800 the opposite of Utah. 2605 02:00:44.039 --> 02:00:47.079 Utah goes, you know, power four versus power four, and 2606 02:00:47.159 --> 02:00:49.399 then a you know, less than mid major, and b 2607 02:00:49.520 --> 02:00:53.279 WU does just the opposite. So but BYU had Stanford 2608 02:00:53.319 --> 02:00:55.279 a home too, so that's a little bit better. They 2609 02:00:55.800 --> 02:00:58.920 can soften the blow of their fans sitting through Portland 2610 02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:02.119 State knowing that the next week they get the Stanford 2611 02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:03.479 at their place. 2612 02:01:03.399 --> 02:01:05.479 And then after Stanford they have a buye b Yu 2613 02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:08.119 has an early early, then at East Carolina and then 2614 02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:10.720 at Colorado. You know what, Porter, I'm a team player. 2615 02:01:11.039 --> 02:01:15.039 Since you're going to Laramie, I agree that I will 2616 02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:19.000 go to Pasadena. Okay, you may not. But because you're 2617 02:01:19.039 --> 02:01:20.760 going to laram Me, I'll go to Pasadena. I'll golf 2618 02:01:20.800 --> 02:01:23.239 for a week. Game, we'll hang out. Come on down, 2619 02:01:23.319 --> 02:01:25.159 let's play golf. Let's do it. I like it, so 2620 02:01:25.359 --> 02:01:28.880 Utah and BYU schedule release, let me kick the tires 2621 02:01:28.920 --> 02:01:30.239 with you on a couple of other things with a 2622 02:01:30.319 --> 02:01:36.560 few minutes left. From the perspective of interest in pro basketball, 2623 02:01:37.720 --> 02:01:40.079 because the data is in and it doesn't matter that 2624 02:01:40.680 --> 02:01:43.119 you could work for the NBA and spin it all 2625 02:01:43.159 --> 02:01:46.159 you want. Numbers are down, ratings are down. Do you 2626 02:01:46.279 --> 02:01:49.479 think this historic week changes that at all? Do you 2627 02:01:49.520 --> 02:01:52.039 think people will be more tuned into pro basketball as 2628 02:01:52.039 --> 02:01:53.720 a result of what we've seen over the past seventy 2629 02:01:53.760 --> 02:01:54.159 two hours. 2630 02:01:54.199 --> 02:01:57.000 I don't know if the move itself does, but I 2631 02:01:57.119 --> 02:01:59.960 think the byproduct of that, as soon as Lucas suits 2632 02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:04.239 up for the Lakers, and by the way, against the Jazz. 2633 02:02:04.359 --> 02:02:06.840 Is a rumor that lucas first game against the Lakers 2634 02:02:07.439 --> 02:02:08.960 before the Lakers will be against the Jazz. 2635 02:02:08.960 --> 02:02:11.239 That's right, So I can't even Well, now, if you're 2636 02:02:11.279 --> 02:02:13.920 the network, you're probably thinking, oh, great, why does this 2637 02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:15.640 have to be Why couldn't it have been okay see 2638 02:02:16.000 --> 02:02:19.760 or even better Dallas? But because the Jazz have already 2639 02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:22.800 had a game taken off national TV because of the situation, 2640 02:02:22.920 --> 02:02:24.039 they're in second worst. 2641 02:02:23.840 --> 02:02:26.359 Team in the league, So I can I will. 2642 02:02:26.600 --> 02:02:29.119 I would definitely see a little bit of a boost 2643 02:02:29.359 --> 02:02:31.479 once Luca gets in that Laker uniform. 2644 02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:33.800 And yes, that's a byproduct of the trade. 2645 02:02:33.800 --> 02:02:35.800 I don't know if the trade itself means, oh, everybody's 2646 02:02:35.840 --> 02:02:38.399 gonna start watching the NBA, but I think it might 2647 02:02:38.439 --> 02:02:39.920 give the Lakers a little bit of a kick. But 2648 02:02:40.000 --> 02:02:42.199 aren't the Lakers one of those teams, like you know, 2649 02:02:42.279 --> 02:02:44.279 the Dallas Cowboys that no matter how good or bad 2650 02:02:44.319 --> 02:02:46.279 they are, they still have massive viewership. 2651 02:02:47.039 --> 02:02:49.319 So but I agree, I think there'll be a kick. 2652 02:02:49.359 --> 02:02:52.800 And I'm guessing that the network executives guys at TNT 2653 02:02:52.920 --> 02:02:54.520 and ESPN or look at the schedule right now and 2654 02:02:54.600 --> 02:02:56.720 trying to figure out, Okay, when can we get Luca. 2655 02:02:57.000 --> 02:02:58.920 And Lebron together on TV? 2656 02:02:59.279 --> 02:03:02.039 Can you imagine know if it is the first game 2657 02:03:02.079 --> 02:03:05.680 against the Lakers is down there, so and then they 2658 02:03:05.720 --> 02:03:07.920 play him again up here right the very next game. 2659 02:03:07.960 --> 02:03:08.439 Yeah, that's right. 2660 02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:11.520 So I don't know what the network thinking would be 2661 02:03:11.720 --> 02:03:15.560 when that's your opponent. They're probably not thrilled. It's the Jazz, 2662 02:03:15.680 --> 02:03:18.479 I'm sure they not. And he flexed this game, please, 2663 02:03:18.800 --> 02:03:21.560 and who knows what's gonna happen? Think about the last 2664 02:03:21.680 --> 02:03:24.640 Kobe game. Who was it against? It was against the Jazz, 2665 02:03:24.680 --> 02:03:26.520 and he's destroyed them. 2666 02:03:26.800 --> 02:03:29.520 Yeah you know what if everyone watched it, but it's 2667 02:03:29.560 --> 02:03:33.159 revisionist history. He didn't really destroy them. They just decide 2668 02:03:33.239 --> 02:03:35.680 like and Hayward has talked about this because I was 2669 02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:39.239 probably yes, I was covering the game. In fact, we'll 2670 02:03:39.239 --> 02:03:41.600 ask our ESPN Stats and Info department. Look up one 2671 02:03:41.640 --> 02:03:44.319 more thing. Look up Kobe's last game against the Jazz, 2672 02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:47.359 and you have like seventy something or some absurd I 2673 02:03:47.399 --> 02:03:50.560 think he took sixty one shots and I was watching 2674 02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:53.800 it that I was watching over Britton Johnson because for 2675 02:03:53.920 --> 02:03:56.039 people to remember the Jazz actually that year had a 2676 02:03:56.159 --> 02:03:58.680 chance to make the playoffs, and then I think they 2677 02:03:58.760 --> 02:04:01.600 needed Houston to lose. Houston won, then the Jazz were 2678 02:04:01.640 --> 02:04:04.560 out of it. So then it became it was not 2679 02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:06.720 Jermaine to anything exciting for the Jazz. They did not 2680 02:04:06.880 --> 02:04:09.279 need to win, and it just became this thing. And 2681 02:04:09.359 --> 02:04:11.720 early on Britain actually pointed this out. He's like, it 2682 02:04:11.720 --> 02:04:14.640 looks like they're just feeding Kobe and letting him shoot 2683 02:04:14.640 --> 02:04:16.199 every time to see what they can do, because this 2684 02:04:16.279 --> 02:04:19.359 is his final game. And so the narrative became Kobe 2685 02:04:19.479 --> 02:04:21.760 had this miraculous last game against the Jazz, and it 2686 02:04:21.880 --> 02:04:23.600 was like, no, it was a glorified it was a 2687 02:04:23.680 --> 02:04:26.479 glorified twenty four hour fitness scrimmage where they let him 2688 02:04:26.520 --> 02:04:28.479 shoot every time. I want to say, he took sixty 2689 02:04:28.520 --> 02:04:30.600 shots to score, like sixty two points. 2690 02:04:31.079 --> 02:04:36.199 He took fifty shots, but twenty one of them or 2691 02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:39.079 from downtown now he shot twenty two total. He was 2692 02:04:39.119 --> 02:04:41.319 twenty two pin fifty. He almost shot forty fifty percent. 2693 02:04:41.359 --> 02:04:44.079 He scored sixty Yeah, sixty points, Okay, sixty points on 2694 02:04:44.159 --> 02:04:44.760 fifty shots. 2695 02:04:44.760 --> 02:04:47.199 Okay, I understand what you're saying. But I mean history 2696 02:04:47.199 --> 02:04:49.000 won't always look at it that way. Well, all I'm 2697 02:04:49.039 --> 02:04:51.000 telling you is you're going to take two of the 2698 02:04:51.479 --> 02:04:53.760 iconic Laker games in the last decade in their bol 2699 02:04:53.840 --> 02:04:55.880 against the Jazz. Yeah, I'm sure the NBA is not 2700 02:04:56.039 --> 02:04:56.560 really about that. 2701 02:04:56.680 --> 02:04:59.680 Yeah, they can't be. But tell me what's going to watch? 2702 02:04:59.680 --> 02:05:02.479 Because you're always asking me this on five questions or 2703 02:05:02.640 --> 02:05:06.079 talking jazz. What do because you're Dave fox Man of 2704 02:05:06.159 --> 02:05:08.520 the people. You're out and about in the community, and 2705 02:05:08.560 --> 02:05:11.600 I'm sure when people see you at the ward or 2706 02:05:11.840 --> 02:05:15.119 just around they want to ask you about the jazz. 2707 02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:17.560 What they what do they say about this currency? 2708 02:05:17.560 --> 02:05:19.560 Well, the first, the first thing you tend to get 2709 02:05:19.600 --> 02:05:22.199 a lot of is you'd be surprised how people don't 2710 02:05:22.239 --> 02:05:23.560 completely understand it. 2711 02:05:24.520 --> 02:05:26.560 I mean to a degree, you know, why are they 2712 02:05:26.640 --> 02:05:27.079 so bad? 2713 02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:29.800 And then your first answer, your answer has to be, well, 2714 02:05:30.359 --> 02:05:32.359 it's kind of by design, it's part of the plan. 2715 02:05:32.520 --> 02:05:34.279 This is you know, And like last night, I'm watching 2716 02:05:34.359 --> 02:05:36.880 this game with Timmy and you know, Timmy is he 2717 02:05:37.079 --> 02:05:40.439 is hardcore jazz as they come. And I keep saying, Timmy, 2718 02:05:41.159 --> 02:05:43.079 in the grand scheme of things, this is not a 2719 02:05:43.159 --> 02:05:45.359 game you want to win. This goes again. If you're 2720 02:05:45.359 --> 02:05:48.319 playing Washington and you're playing New Orleans although they got 2721 02:05:48.359 --> 02:05:51.039 swept by them, or Charlotte, you can go ahead and 2722 02:05:51.119 --> 02:05:54.199 win one of those if you have to, because that 2723 02:05:54.479 --> 02:05:58.079 that that's more acceptable. You can't win a game against 2724 02:05:58.079 --> 02:05:59.920 a team that is much better than you are if 2725 02:06:00.039 --> 02:06:03.439 you're fighting to get at the top of that lottery mix, 2726 02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:06.279 you just can't do it. And I've had this theory 2727 02:06:06.319 --> 02:06:08.520 for a long time that the Jazz tend to play 2728 02:06:08.680 --> 02:06:11.479 everyone when they play good teams because there's a chance 2729 02:06:11.479 --> 02:06:13.359 they're not going to win anyone. And then when they 2730 02:06:13.399 --> 02:06:15.520 play crappy teams, they start to wrest a lot of 2731 02:06:15.560 --> 02:06:18.720 people or they're injured. Have you noticed that that's that's 2732 02:06:18.760 --> 02:06:20.840 happened a lot. Just please don't say crappy on the air. 2733 02:06:20.880 --> 02:06:23.439 This is a family friend of the show poopy Teams. 2734 02:06:23.800 --> 02:06:26.520 That's even worse. I will tell you, what did you 2735 02:06:26.640 --> 02:06:27.880 watch the end of the game last night? 2736 02:06:27.960 --> 02:06:30.279 I watched every second. It was so comical with the 2737 02:06:30.319 --> 02:06:32.920 way they closed. I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but 2738 02:06:32.960 --> 02:06:35.439 with the way they closed, I was like, huh, the 2739 02:06:35.520 --> 02:06:38.600 Clarkson turnover might have been so Clarkson turnover and go 2740 02:06:38.680 --> 02:06:42.279 watch the replay. He let Tyrese Haliburton walk into a three. 2741 02:06:42.359 --> 02:06:44.199 He just kind of went like this. Haliburt had ten 2742 02:06:44.359 --> 02:06:46.840 ten feet. Kianta gets the ball, puts it through his 2743 02:06:46.960 --> 02:06:49.439 legs three times, take takes a step back three with 2744 02:06:49.600 --> 02:06:52.600 like sixteen seconds left on the shot clock, and Lowry 2745 02:06:52.720 --> 02:06:56.119 Market in a ninety percent free throw shooter, misses two 2746 02:06:56.159 --> 02:06:59.920 free throwslieve like my intent, Lesta is like, huh, maybe 2747 02:07:00.119 --> 02:07:03.560 that are on board. Luca has been traded to the Lakers. 2748 02:07:04.359 --> 02:07:07.680 The Jazz clearly are trying to lose back. Maybe this 2749 02:07:07.760 --> 02:07:10.760 whole thing is maybe there's a maybe Adam Silver is 2750 02:07:10.800 --> 02:07:11.520 the Wizard. 2751 02:07:11.239 --> 02:07:13.199 Of Oz and we just we're not aware of it, 2752 02:07:14.039 --> 02:07:14.439 whether or not. 2753 02:07:14.640 --> 02:07:18.520 Okay, I think in that notwithstanding, it was the perfect 2754 02:07:18.560 --> 02:07:21.399 formula last night, and we all agree with this play great, 2755 02:07:21.960 --> 02:07:24.880 keep the fans in their seats, you know, stay motivated 2756 02:07:24.960 --> 02:07:29.319 to the last second, and then lose. I cannot tell 2757 02:07:29.359 --> 02:07:32.039 people enough, and I've got some coworkers that don't get this. 2758 02:07:32.920 --> 02:07:35.439 This is an important year for that draft. 2759 02:07:36.000 --> 02:07:38.600 It could change the shape of this franchise, sort of 2760 02:07:38.680 --> 02:07:41.039 like Luca's going to change the shape of the Lakers franchise. 2761 02:07:41.119 --> 02:07:42.640 Not maybe not so much this year, but for the 2762 02:07:42.680 --> 02:07:45.680 next ten years. That's the situation that jazz are in. 2763 02:07:46.039 --> 02:07:49.560 That's the difference between getting the first pick and anything else. 2764 02:07:50.319 --> 02:07:52.119 So they've got to be all in on this. And 2765 02:07:52.199 --> 02:07:53.720 by the way, you only really have to finish in 2766 02:07:53.760 --> 02:07:55.159 the bottom three. They're all the same odds. 2767 02:07:55.279 --> 02:07:59.359 Yeah, yeah, I mean the tough part about these conversations 2768 02:07:59.600 --> 02:08:02.880 is we're I'm not used to this, yeah, in Saul Lake, 2769 02:08:03.079 --> 02:08:06.119 and so when you because I really believe and there's 2770 02:08:06.159 --> 02:08:08.640 always this debate when you're doing a sportstock radio show, 2771 02:08:08.760 --> 02:08:13.239 like the listeners who are all about the jazz and 2772 02:08:13.359 --> 02:08:16.319 love the data and are just dialed in and it's 2773 02:08:16.399 --> 02:08:19.479 like a big hobby of theirs. They know the deal, 2774 02:08:19.600 --> 02:08:21.359 and you're not really doing the show for them anyway, 2775 02:08:21.479 --> 02:08:23.720 because they're probably locked in on doing their own thing. 2776 02:08:24.079 --> 02:08:26.600 But the majority people who listen to sportstock radio don't 2777 02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:29.479 know about flattened lottery odds. They don't know about the 2778 02:08:29.560 --> 02:08:32.039 landscape of the NBA as far as what you have 2779 02:08:32.199 --> 02:08:34.359 to do to build a team in a place like this, 2780 02:08:34.560 --> 02:08:36.439 And so I think a lot of just average sports 2781 02:08:36.479 --> 02:08:40.039 fans they really have always loved the jazz, are genuinely confused. 2782 02:08:40.119 --> 02:08:42.039 It's like, wait a second, we're usually at least good, 2783 02:08:42.079 --> 02:08:44.199 and we're not even close to that right now. Circling 2784 02:08:44.239 --> 02:08:45.680 back to what you had just asked me about, what 2785 02:08:45.760 --> 02:08:46.399 do people say? 2786 02:08:46.520 --> 02:08:48.199 That's what you get a lot of and you try 2787 02:08:48.239 --> 02:08:50.000 to educate them on it, and a lot of them 2788 02:08:50.119 --> 02:08:52.199 just they either don't get it or they don't want 2789 02:08:52.239 --> 02:08:54.039 to get it. But this is what they have to 2790 02:08:54.119 --> 02:08:56.479 go through and we'll see where it all goes. Now, 2791 02:08:56.520 --> 02:08:57.760 if they go through all this and that up with 2792 02:08:57.800 --> 02:08:59.880 a third or fourth pick, we'll be a little frustrated. 2793 02:09:00.239 --> 02:09:03.960 We'll see. Super Bowl Week brings me in a lot 2794 02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:08.880 of very exciting media opportunities. Andy Reid was asked for 2795 02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:11.800 his favorite trilogy today as far as books go, and 2796 02:09:11.880 --> 02:09:13.760 he said, the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Pearl 2797 02:09:13.800 --> 02:09:15.600 of Great Price. So me and Andy your buds and 2798 02:09:15.680 --> 02:09:18.239 we have the same previous are on par Yeah, indeed, 2799 02:09:18.319 --> 02:09:20.840 so some fun stuff there. But before I set you loose, yep, 2800 02:09:21.560 --> 02:09:23.720 do you think the Eagles can actually do this? Or 2801 02:09:23.800 --> 02:09:25.760 are we gonna be sitting there in the fourth quarter 2802 02:09:25.880 --> 02:09:28.680 watching the Chiefs figure it out again winning their third string. 2803 02:09:28.760 --> 02:09:30.720 You know, I'm an NFC East guy because of the 2804 02:09:30.800 --> 02:09:34.800 Dallas Cowboys, so that I can't even think about the 2805 02:09:34.840 --> 02:09:35.920 Eagles winning that game. 2806 02:09:36.159 --> 02:09:39.079 Sorry, but let me take that my heart out of 2807 02:09:39.119 --> 02:09:40.640 it and think logically. 2808 02:09:40.760 --> 02:09:43.880 I I think we posed this question yesterday in Five 2809 02:09:43.920 --> 02:09:45.399 Questions with Spence, and the way I posed it. 2810 02:09:45.439 --> 02:09:49.760 To you was, can you really in good conscience pick 2811 02:09:50.000 --> 02:09:51.000 against the Chiefs? 2812 02:09:51.079 --> 02:09:53.199 And I don't think there's any way they've First of all, 2813 02:09:53.279 --> 02:09:56.079 they so many weird things always happen in their favor 2814 02:09:56.399 --> 02:09:58.439 and I don't think that's going away anytime soon. 2815 02:09:58.760 --> 02:10:01.319 And they're just a really good team. So there you go. 2816 02:10:01.439 --> 02:10:04.159 And they've got fifteen under center, which probably is the 2817 02:10:04.159 --> 02:10:07.000 bottom line, no question. Oh and Taylor Swift's a fan? 2818 02:10:07.920 --> 02:10:08.640 Are you swifty? 2819 02:10:09.079 --> 02:10:09.760 No, not at all. 2820 02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:11.720 Are you anti? I'm not anti? 2821 02:10:11.840 --> 02:10:12.479 I'm you know. 2822 02:10:13.319 --> 02:10:16.439 I bet there's a prop bet Taylor Swift or say 2823 02:10:16.479 --> 02:10:19.039 Kwon Barkley total carries? What do we see more of 2824 02:10:19.119 --> 02:10:21.279 her on camera? Or his total carry? You can bet 2825 02:10:21.319 --> 02:10:23.479 on anything these days, but as I say, just don't 2826 02:10:23.520 --> 02:10:25.359 do it. But David, it's great to see it there 2827 02:10:26.039 --> 02:10:29.439 last night. We'll chat soon. Thanks Porter Dave fox Ku 2828 02:10:29.600 --> 02:10:32.239 TV Five Questions with Spence last night to be on 2829 02:10:32.279 --> 02:10:34.399 there again. Taka Jazz coming up in a couple of weeks. 2830 02:10:34.880 --> 02:10:38.039 Unseasonably warm, so much according to our GUYE Chase over 2831 02:10:38.199 --> 02:10:41.439 Ku TV, this is the warmest February fourth in the 2832 02:10:41.600 --> 02:10:43.520 history of the state of Utah. Got up to sixty 2833 02:10:43.560 --> 02:10:46.960 eight degrees earlier today. It will not last. Cold and 2834 02:10:47.159 --> 02:10:49.800 snow and rain coming up this weekend. But good to 2835 02:10:49.840 --> 02:10:52.479 have you guys with us on this Tuesday afternoon. We've 2836 02:10:52.479 --> 02:10:54.640 had a fun show. We've had a busy, busy show. 2837 02:10:55.399 --> 02:10:58.399 The Utah Hockey Club welcomes in the Philadelphia Flyers tonight. 2838 02:10:58.439 --> 02:11:00.359 It is your final chance to pretend to vote for 2839 02:11:00.399 --> 02:11:03.319 the name for the Utah Hockey Club. Utah Hockey Club, 2840 02:11:03.479 --> 02:11:06.159 Utah Mammoth, and the utahle Laws are your three options. 2841 02:11:06.920 --> 02:11:09.840 Utah State is up in Laramie taking on Wyoming and 2842 02:11:09.960 --> 02:11:12.399 college basketball, trying to get back to their winning ways 2843 02:11:12.439 --> 02:11:15.880 after getting smoked pretty good by New Mexico and BYU. 2844 02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:19.560 Welcomes in number twenty Arizona to the Marriot Center tonight. 2845 02:11:19.640 --> 02:11:22.039 That's a nine o'clock tip can be seen on ESPN. 2846 02:11:22.159 --> 02:11:24.680 BYU is actually a slight favorite to win that game. 2847 02:11:25.279 --> 02:11:28.039 BYU has won four straight basketball games. Utah will be 2848 02:11:28.119 --> 02:11:30.600 back in action. Coming up tomorrow at home against Colorado. 2849 02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:33.520 Kind of a must win in Big Twelve. 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All right, we're going 2870 02:12:37.479 --> 02:12:39.560 to bring in Ryles coming up the Voice of the Ute. 2871 02:12:39.600 --> 02:12:42.000 So all the latest on Utah basketball, the latest on 2872 02:12:42.039 --> 02:12:45.399 the Utah schedule release. Tim McMahon joined us earlier today, 2873 02:12:46.119 --> 02:12:48.760 very busy, seventy two hours for our guy. Reacting to 2874 02:12:48.920 --> 02:12:52.439 the Luka Doncic trade, the Jazz involved in that Jazz 2875 02:12:52.479 --> 02:12:54.600 involved in a trade with the La Clippers that sent 2876 02:12:54.680 --> 02:12:57.239 Drew you Banks and Patty Mills on their way. A 2877 02:12:57.319 --> 02:12:59.920 lot of reports that the Jazz are shopping John Collins 2878 02:13:00.039 --> 02:13:03.239 pretty aggressively. And there's a rumor that has surfaced today 2879 02:13:03.279 --> 02:13:05.319 that Kevin Durant might be going back to the Golden 2880 02:13:05.399 --> 02:13:09.840 State Warriors. Sports Illustrated reported yesterday that there's an increasing belief. 2881 02:13:09.880 --> 02:13:11.640 This is according to Chris Mannix, friend of the show, 2882 02:13:11.720 --> 02:13:15.800 From time to time, increasing belief among executives in the 2883 02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:18.479 NBA that a Phoenix can't land Jimmy Butler, then they're 2884 02:13:18.520 --> 02:13:21.720 going to engage on a Kevin Durant deal and potentially 2885 02:13:21.800 --> 02:13:24.199 send Durant back to Golden State to play with Steph Curry, 2886 02:13:24.880 --> 02:13:29.960 which will only feed into conspiracy. Theorists that believe pro 2887 02:13:30.079 --> 02:13:34.039 basketball is basically WWE hard argue with that. The Jazz 2888 02:13:34.039 --> 02:13:38.239 are saying Colin Sexton, Jalen Hooch, Chafino, Cody Williams, and PJ. 2889 02:13:38.439 --> 02:13:42.560 Tucker out tomorrow against Golden State. Larry Markinen is questionable. 2890 02:13:42.640 --> 02:13:44.680 Hopefully Steph Curry will be in town as the Jazz 2891 02:13:44.680 --> 02:13:47.359 will be back in action tomorrow. But big news of 2892 02:13:47.399 --> 02:13:50.359 the day today, the Utah schedule has been released. Utah 2893 02:13:50.399 --> 02:13:53.239 football schedule has been released, The Big twelve football schedule 2894 02:13:53.279 --> 02:13:56.840 has been released, and you know, trying to analyze who 2895 02:13:56.880 --> 02:13:59.960 has the harder schedule, who has the easier schedule. Utah 2896 02:14:00.239 --> 02:14:04.119 BYU on February the fourth is an exercise in futility. 2897 02:14:04.199 --> 02:14:07.079 But the one storyline that seems to have been getting 2898 02:14:07.119 --> 02:14:11.199 tractioned today is October the eighteenth is the date for 2899 02:14:11.479 --> 02:14:16.560 Utah BYU down at Lavelle Edwards Stadium in Provo. Of course, 2900 02:14:16.640 --> 02:14:19.159 these two teams met last year in a classic up 2901 02:14:19.239 --> 02:14:23.239 this way, and every single year that game is very entertaining, 2902 02:14:23.439 --> 02:14:26.640 very exciting, usually very close, and of course brings a 2903 02:14:26.680 --> 02:14:29.479 lot of attention both locally and nationally. The last time 2904 02:14:29.600 --> 02:14:35.439 Utah and BYU football played in October was nineteen sixty seven, 2905 02:14:36.199 --> 02:14:38.960 So that's kind of topically the big thing that's come 2906 02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:42.039 out of the schedule release for today in the Big Twelve, 2907 02:14:42.119 --> 02:14:43.920 with both the BYU and. 2908 02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:45.239 The Utah football side of it. 2909 02:14:45.279 --> 02:14:46.880 If you're just hopping in your car and getting that 2910 02:14:46.960 --> 02:14:49.439 commute home started on a Tuesday, the utes will open 2911 02:14:49.520 --> 02:14:53.119 up in Pasadena at the Rose Bowl against UCLA. They'll 2912 02:14:53.159 --> 02:14:55.319 come back home for the home opener on September the sixth, 2913 02:14:55.399 --> 02:14:58.399 which is cal Poly, and then a week later they 2914 02:14:58.439 --> 02:15:01.439 head up to Laramie to take off on Wyoming. This 2915 02:15:01.600 --> 02:15:04.359 is a game, according to Ryle's our guy, that has 2916 02:15:04.479 --> 02:15:06.239 been scheduled for about a decade. 2917 02:15:06.359 --> 02:15:07.840 So I know there are a lot of. 2918 02:15:07.800 --> 02:15:10.239 People upset that that's been scheduled, but I guess it's 2919 02:15:10.279 --> 02:15:12.439 been kind of that way for a long time. 2920 02:15:13.279 --> 02:15:14.479 For instance, BYU was. 2921 02:15:14.479 --> 02:15:16.399 On the road to East Carolina and that is a 2922 02:15:16.560 --> 02:15:19.680 contractual obligation that BYU has the East Carolina, So I 2923 02:15:19.720 --> 02:15:21.680 guess that's just kind of make good the Big Twelve 2924 02:15:21.880 --> 02:15:26.399 opener for the utes will be Texas Tech on September 2925 02:15:26.399 --> 02:15:28.880 the twentieth. Here in Salt Lake they'll hit the road 2926 02:15:28.920 --> 02:15:31.319 to go to Morgantown and take on West Virginia. After 2927 02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:33.520 that they get a bye, and then it's Arizona State 2928 02:15:33.560 --> 02:15:36.000 at home. A tough stretch. After the trip to Morgantown, 2929 02:15:36.680 --> 02:15:40.880 Arizona State at home BYU on the road, Colorado rolls 2930 02:15:40.880 --> 02:15:43.880 into Salt Lake City on October the twenty fifth, and 2931 02:15:43.960 --> 02:15:47.119 then it's Cincinnati and then they'll finish at Baylor in 2932 02:15:47.239 --> 02:15:49.520 Waco home against k State. Then on the road in 2933 02:15:49.680 --> 02:15:53.199 Lawrence to take on Kansas. So as far as your 2934 02:15:53.359 --> 02:15:58.359 options as a Big twelve member, not as exciting oftentimes 2935 02:15:58.439 --> 02:16:00.560 as your options were as a member of the twelve. 2936 02:16:00.640 --> 02:16:04.720 But Arizona State, Colorado and k State at home, that's 2937 02:16:04.800 --> 02:16:07.399 not bad. That's not You could do a lot worse 2938 02:16:07.439 --> 02:16:09.439 than that. You know, three of the teams that were 2939 02:16:09.439 --> 02:16:10.880 in the mix to win the thing a year ago. 2940 02:16:11.079 --> 02:16:13.279 One of the teams that actually did in Arizona State. 2941 02:16:13.960 --> 02:16:17.159 Here in Salt Lake City, your road trip options maybe 2942 02:16:17.239 --> 02:16:20.479 not great. I mean, Opening day Pasadena in August will 2943 02:16:20.479 --> 02:16:22.000 be nice and warm. If you want to play little 2944 02:16:22.000 --> 02:16:27.000 golf Laramie for Utah, Wyoming. Then it's Morgantown, West Virginia 2945 02:16:27.640 --> 02:16:30.600 Provo for BYU. If that's not really a road trip, 2946 02:16:30.680 --> 02:16:33.079 but head on down if you'd like, then it's Waco 2947 02:16:33.280 --> 02:16:37.520 and Lawrence, Kansas as your potential road trip options for 2948 02:16:37.760 --> 02:16:40.479 Utah football as that schedule has been released now. For 2949 02:16:40.639 --> 02:16:43.959 the gen x yout fan perspective of this porter, people 2950 02:16:44.079 --> 02:16:47.120 upset the Utah and BYU football play in October the eighteenth. 2951 02:16:47.639 --> 02:16:49.920 But while I let you finish your vape and you're 2952 02:16:50.159 --> 02:16:53.239 streaming on Twitch playing World of Warcraft, what's the take 2953 02:16:53.319 --> 02:16:55.000 on Utah BYU October eighteenth? 2954 02:16:56.680 --> 02:16:58.479 There you go, Yeah, blow out the smoke. 2955 02:17:00.760 --> 02:17:01.000 Listen. 2956 02:17:01.079 --> 02:17:04.319 I get why folks want it played at a certain time. 2957 02:17:04.399 --> 02:17:07.120 I get the I get the reasons for wanting it 2958 02:17:07.239 --> 02:17:11.479 rivalry week, and I agree with them. I just don't 2959 02:17:11.520 --> 02:17:13.760 think it's a huge deal. I'm glad the game is 2960 02:17:13.760 --> 02:17:16.319 getting played. I will say, if to if I can 2961 02:17:16.360 --> 02:17:19.479 play Devil's Advocate, maybe the Big twelve is like telling 2962 02:17:19.600 --> 02:17:23.840 Utah and BYU, Hey, guys, we know it's a rivalry. 2963 02:17:24.399 --> 02:17:26.639 We know it's a big deal. You guys need to 2964 02:17:26.680 --> 02:17:30.440 act like adults when you're playing that game. Maybe that's 2965 02:17:30.600 --> 02:17:32.920 maybe that's the angle the Big Twelve is telling BYU 2966 02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:33.440 and Utah. 2967 02:17:34.200 --> 02:17:36.520 You know, hey, last couple of times it's gotten a 2968 02:17:36.559 --> 02:17:39.559 little out there loose. 2969 02:17:39.840 --> 02:17:40.600 Did he get loose? 2970 02:17:40.840 --> 02:17:44.040 Your athletic directors are you know, having a hell of 2971 02:17:44.079 --> 02:17:45.479 a time on the at the end of the game. 2972 02:17:45.680 --> 02:17:50.479 Oh okay, I mean, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, maybe, 2973 02:17:50.559 --> 02:17:55.399 if if the rivalry game is is making adults act 2974 02:17:55.479 --> 02:17:59.040 in certain ways, the Big Twelve is playing parent. 2975 02:17:59.639 --> 02:18:03.000 Let me finished this tweet at Lars and ESPN reports 2976 02:18:03.040 --> 02:18:07.040 that Big Twelve moves BYU Utah to October the eighteenth 2977 02:18:07.159 --> 02:18:09.520 due to malfeasans from at Mark Harlan. 2978 02:18:09.239 --> 02:18:11.840 A d you're gonna you're gonna address Mark Can, I 2979 02:18:11.879 --> 02:18:13.239 had send on a tweet at him. 2980 02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:14.840 Well, that essentially is what you just said. 2981 02:18:15.280 --> 02:18:20.799 I was including a particular outburst from said athletic director. 2982 02:18:20.879 --> 02:18:21.040 Yeah. 2983 02:18:22.200 --> 02:18:24.079 I don't think that's actually part of it. 2984 02:18:24.200 --> 02:18:27.559 I just I'm looking for reasons why the Big Twelve 2985 02:18:27.600 --> 02:18:30.360 wouldn't schedule it late in the year or on a 2986 02:18:30.520 --> 02:18:34.559 feature weekend. Maybe the answer is they want October eighteenth 2987 02:18:34.600 --> 02:18:37.799 to be a feature weekend because they're there are other 2988 02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:41.120 scheduled games elsewhere. I don't really know, just kind of 2989 02:18:41.120 --> 02:18:42.760 looking for Big Twelve excuses. 2990 02:18:42.799 --> 02:18:44.440 I guess, well, I don't know about you, Porter, but 2991 02:18:44.520 --> 02:18:46.399 I was excited about being in the Big Twelve, but 2992 02:18:46.479 --> 02:18:47.040 today I'm not. 2993 02:18:47.319 --> 02:18:48.079 I'm not either man. 2994 02:18:48.200 --> 02:18:50.719 Yeah, I feel like that game has been stolen from 2995 02:18:50.799 --> 02:18:53.680 us Utah YU, those of us that wanted it in November. 2996 02:18:54.239 --> 02:18:55.920 That's just the way I feel. Give me a break, Spense, 2997 02:18:56.360 --> 02:18:57.319 well you will look. 2998 02:18:57.719 --> 02:19:01.600 Bottom line is this the Big Twelve decided to put 2999 02:19:02.239 --> 02:19:06.200 Arizona Arizona State final week of the season. But that 3000 02:19:06.680 --> 02:19:08.600 I mean, I guess how it depends on how you 3001 02:19:08.639 --> 02:19:13.360 define rivalries. Kansas Cay State, but Utah BYU in my opinion, 3002 02:19:13.479 --> 02:19:17.639 best rivalry in this conference. And the only real concern 3003 02:19:17.760 --> 02:19:22.319 here is it just as another indicator of powerbrokers and 3004 02:19:22.399 --> 02:19:25.000 decision makers in college football that at times to me, 3005 02:19:25.959 --> 02:19:28.399 are pretty tone deaf as far as what makes this 3006 02:19:28.479 --> 02:19:31.200 sport special for the people that actually pay to go 3007 02:19:31.319 --> 02:19:34.079 to games, the people that actually watch on TV, the 3008 02:19:34.159 --> 02:19:36.479 people are buying food and BEV and ticket rip and 3009 02:19:36.559 --> 02:19:41.360 merch and everything, And in my opinion, rivalries are among, 3010 02:19:41.559 --> 02:19:43.879 if not the number one thing that makes this sport 3011 02:19:43.959 --> 02:19:48.799 different than pro football, and as college essentially continues to 3012 02:19:48.879 --> 02:19:51.200 move in the direction that they've already moved into, which 3013 02:19:51.319 --> 02:19:54.360 is a pro model. You got to find the things 3014 02:19:54.399 --> 02:19:57.079 that make this thing different and special and lean into them. 3015 02:19:57.120 --> 02:20:00.079 That's why I believe college football should be played on 3016 02:20:00.159 --> 02:20:04.360 college football campuses. And that includes, in my opinion, CFP games, 3017 02:20:05.040 --> 02:20:08.399 college football playoff games. Maybe besides the final game of 3018 02:20:08.440 --> 02:20:11.840 the year. You make that your super Bowl, but quarterfinals 3019 02:20:11.879 --> 02:20:14.760 semi file to play it on campuses, okay. And when 3020 02:20:14.799 --> 02:20:18.399 it comes to the rivalry dynamic and how important these 3021 02:20:18.479 --> 02:20:20.799 games are to the ecosystem of the sport, I just 3022 02:20:20.879 --> 02:20:24.600 think they're better placement for a game like Utah BYU 3023 02:20:24.680 --> 02:20:29.079 than October the eighteenth, which has not happened since nineteen 3024 02:20:29.159 --> 02:20:29.719 sixty seven. 3025 02:20:29.799 --> 02:20:31.840 That's the last year of Utah and BYU played football 3026 02:20:31.840 --> 02:20:32.319 in October. 3027 02:20:32.840 --> 02:20:34.200 Is it the end of the world. It is very 3028 02:20:34.280 --> 02:20:36.040 much not. But it is February the fourth, and you 3029 02:20:36.079 --> 02:20:39.280 guys want college football. So we're creating topics. There's the truth, 3030 02:20:39.840 --> 02:20:43.040 all right. We'll bring in Bill here, Arousalis stop by, 3031 02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:45.520 the Voice of the Utes, will stop by, and we'll 3032 02:20:45.559 --> 02:20:48.479 get his take on the timing of Utah BYU. We'll 3033 02:20:48.520 --> 02:20:51.559 talk a little Utah football and we'll kind of unpack 3034 02:20:51.639 --> 02:20:53.479 this schedule. Of course, Bill is a big fan of 3035 02:20:53.479 --> 02:20:55.760 the Kansas City Chiefs and Super Bowl fifty nine is 3036 02:20:55.799 --> 02:20:57.760 right around the corner with the Chiefs and the Eagles. 3037 02:20:58.280 --> 02:20:59.920 You can hear that game, by the way, on our 3038 02:21:00.200 --> 02:21:03.760 radio station. We're gonna have ten hours of coverage pregame 3039 02:21:03.840 --> 02:21:06.280 than the game then post game for Super Bowl fifty 3040 02:21:06.360 --> 02:21:09.280 nine in the big easy between the Chiefs and the Eagles. 3041 02:21:09.319 --> 02:21:11.879 That line has not moved. Man, it is wild to me. 3042 02:21:12.040 --> 02:21:14.680 We usually see a bevy of movement for Super Bowl 3043 02:21:14.760 --> 02:21:17.319 game lines. The Chiefs as we sit here today, they're 3044 02:21:17.360 --> 02:21:20.559 still a one point five point favorite. All right, warm 3045 02:21:20.600 --> 02:21:23.440 weather today might have reminded you that right around the corner, 3046 02:21:23.520 --> 02:21:25.559 we are all going to be outside playing golf. We're 3047 02:21:25.600 --> 02:21:28.799 all going to be outside biking, hiking, doing whatever you 3048 02:21:28.879 --> 02:21:30.399 do to take advantage of the fact that we live 3049 02:21:30.440 --> 02:21:34.079 in this beautiful place, which is only good outside of 3050 02:21:34.159 --> 02:21:38.239 one thing. The sun can cause chaos on your skin. 3051 02:21:38.799 --> 02:21:42.319 And so Ogden Clinic Hadley Dermatology. 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Golden State apparently was 3088 02:23:28.760 --> 02:23:31.040 informed by Jimmy Butler's camp that he will not sign 3089 02:23:31.120 --> 02:23:35.000 an extension with them, and so, according to Chris A. Mannix, 3090 02:23:35.040 --> 02:23:38.280 who's a very plugged and NBA rider, Golden State may 3091 02:23:38.360 --> 02:23:42.280 turn their attention by trying to grab Kevin Durant from 3092 02:23:42.319 --> 02:23:46.000 the Phoenix Suns. So I don't know, man, this player 3093 02:23:46.040 --> 02:23:50.760 empowerment thing might be disintegrating right before eyes. If Luka Doncis, 3094 02:23:50.760 --> 02:23:52.920 can you get traded? Anybody can get traded, certainly at 3095 02:23:52.920 --> 02:23:55.479 the age of twenty five. A fun night of college 3096 02:23:55.559 --> 02:23:59.559 basketball tonight, looking for something to do with no Jazz basketball. 3097 02:23:59.600 --> 02:24:03.079 The Jazz back in action coming up tomorrow, hopefully against 3098 02:24:03.319 --> 02:24:06.799 Stephen Curry, and who knows, maybe Kevin Durant. I don't know, 3099 02:24:06.879 --> 02:24:09.319 he's not on the roster as him now, the Jazz 3100 02:24:09.319 --> 02:24:12.719 will be back in action tomorrow. NBA tonight with a 3101 02:24:12.840 --> 02:24:16.319 somewhat busy slate. TNT will have a double dip. Celtics 3102 02:24:16.479 --> 02:24:19.399 Calves will be their early game, and then they are 3103 02:24:19.479 --> 02:24:21.319 going to have the Lakers and the Clippers. 3104 02:24:22.399 --> 02:24:24.520 No Luka Doncic for that game. 3105 02:24:24.600 --> 02:24:28.719 The rumor is Luka Dacic may make his Lakers debut 3106 02:24:29.959 --> 02:24:34.319 against the Utah Jazz, as the Lakers have a couple 3107 02:24:34.399 --> 02:24:36.760 of games against the Jazz coming up. One game is 3108 02:24:36.840 --> 02:24:41.000 in Los Angeles and then they return home the Jazz too. 3109 02:24:41.120 --> 02:24:44.520 So next week, Monday, February the tenth, the Lakers host 3110 02:24:44.600 --> 02:24:48.120 the Jazz, and then on Wednesday, February the twelfth, the 3111 02:24:48.239 --> 02:24:51.440 Lakers are in Salt Lake to play the Jazz. They've 3112 02:24:51.479 --> 02:24:53.280 got the clips tonight. Then it's going to be Golden 3113 02:24:53.319 --> 02:24:55.719 State and then Indiana, But the rumors are Luca's not 3114 02:24:55.799 --> 02:24:57.479 going to be available. He hasn't played, i think, for 3115 02:24:57.559 --> 02:25:01.280 seventeen games until next week. We might luck into a 3116 02:25:01.319 --> 02:25:04.520 little Luca debut against the Jazz coming up next week, 3117 02:25:04.559 --> 02:25:07.959 but only time will tell. BYU welcomes in Arizona tonight 3118 02:25:08.040 --> 02:25:11.079 to the Marriage Center. BYU is now a three point 3119 02:25:11.159 --> 02:25:14.879 five point favorite over the number twenty team in the country, Arizona. 3120 02:25:14.920 --> 02:25:17.159 Arizona has not been great on the road, maybe that's 3121 02:25:17.239 --> 02:25:21.319 why and BYU's one four straight games. Utah State is 3122 02:25:21.600 --> 02:25:25.280 up in Laramie to take on Wyoming after losing to 3123 02:25:25.399 --> 02:25:27.159 New Mexico, and then the youths will be back at 3124 02:25:27.200 --> 02:25:30.760 it coming up tomorrow against Colorado. Here in Salt Lake City, 3125 02:25:30.799 --> 02:25:35.000 Utah Hockey Club at action tonight taking on the Philadelphia Flyers. 3126 02:25:35.959 --> 02:25:37.680 It's your last chance to pretend to vote for the 3127 02:25:37.799 --> 02:25:40.280 name of the team. Only three names left, so. 3128 02:25:40.280 --> 02:25:40.600 There you go. 3129 02:25:41.840 --> 02:25:43.799 What do you find yourself doing on a Tuesday night 3130 02:25:43.879 --> 02:25:45.959 such as this, where it's warm outside and there's not 3131 02:25:46.040 --> 02:25:47.959 a whole lot of local action going on. 3132 02:25:48.120 --> 02:25:52.120 It's warm outside, but it's like a nice outside. It's 3133 02:25:52.280 --> 02:25:55.399 super windy and air's not great, So I don't I 3134 02:25:55.440 --> 02:26:00.079 don't know. We'll be tuned into the sports action, but 3135 02:26:00.159 --> 02:26:04.159 it may be a pretty low key Tuesday evening for 3136 02:26:04.479 --> 02:26:05.159 your guy over here. 3137 02:26:05.319 --> 02:26:07.639 Nothing wrong with that, Nothing wrong with that at all. 3138 02:26:07.719 --> 02:26:10.239 All Right, before we say good night, I do want 3139 02:26:10.280 --> 02:26:12.920 to tell you about my friends at Hadley Dermatology. So 3140 02:26:13.639 --> 02:26:16.000 if you are like me, if you're like Porter, you 3141 02:26:16.159 --> 02:26:19.559 enjoy being outside and the warm weather is reminded us 3142 02:26:19.680 --> 02:26:21.559 that the sunshine is on its way. And even if 3143 02:26:21.600 --> 02:26:23.479 you're a skier in the winter, you are exposed to 3144 02:26:23.520 --> 02:26:25.879 the sun. So here's the deal. 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The office is 3174 02:27:39.399 --> 02:27:41.840 full of greade people, so check it out, all right, 3175 02:27:41.920 --> 02:27:43.600 Porter let's get out of here for we saygo hight 3176 02:27:43.680 --> 02:27:46.680 what comes our way On a Wednesday edition of the show. 3177 02:27:46.760 --> 02:27:49.239 Halfway through the work week, Spence, We'll start it off 3178 02:27:49.479 --> 02:27:53.120 with Neil Smith behind the glass, of course, talking about 3179 02:27:53.159 --> 02:27:55.799 the latest in the National Hockey League in the Utah 3180 02:27:55.879 --> 02:27:58.840 Hockey Club. Behind the glass each and every week with 3181 02:27:58.959 --> 02:28:02.520 our friend Neil Smith, Chadwick stops by the program talking 3182 02:28:02.680 --> 02:28:06.959 some NFL Draft talking of course Big twelve schedule release 3183 02:28:07.079 --> 02:28:11.760 and of course Super Bowl on the program. And then 3184 02:28:12.040 --> 02:28:15.239 on the eve of the NBA trade deadline, Zach Harper, 3185 02:28:15.799 --> 02:28:19.520 Sarah Todd talking jazz and NBA basketball. 3186 02:28:19.799 --> 02:28:22.399 There you go. That'll be a fun Wednesday show, so 3187 02:28:22.680 --> 02:28:24.319 join us for that. With that, we'll say good night 3188 02:28:24.360 --> 02:28:26.879 for this Tuesday show and say a very special thank 3189 02:28:26.920 --> 02:28:29.840 you to Bill O'Reilly as well as Tim McMahon, Chris Comarade, 3190 02:28:29.920 --> 02:28:32.319 Comrade he excuse me, and Dave Fox for any of 3191 02:28:32.360 --> 02:28:33.840 the sound you may have missed from the show today, 3192 02:28:33.959 --> 02:28:36.799 Head on over to the website. It's ESPN seven hundred 3193 02:28:36.799 --> 02:28:40.000 sports dot com. Make sure to download our mobile app 3194 02:28:40.040 --> 02:28:42.280 and take us on the go. 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