WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.080 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:21.519 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. 3 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.399 Look, I'm gonna choose to believe that hour number one 4 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:28.679 was the success. I mean, that's up for you guys 5 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:30.839 to decide. And if you'd think not, then you know 6 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:34.000 here we are, Howard too. We're gonna try again. But 7 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:38.799 we were left hanging by a staple within this show 8 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:43.280 during football season. That's one Alex Cupper, former Louisville offensive lineman, 9 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:46.240 a captain on that special season that resulted in a 10 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:49.280 Sugar Bowl victory down in New Orleans against the Florida Gators, 11 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:54.079 walked on at ufl became Charlie Strong's favorite offensive lineman. 12 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:55.320 I can say that because I don't know if he 13 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:57.759 used the word favorite, but my man Chuck would gas 14 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.640 up Cup often. And I love this, see because cups 15 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.240 a walk on a guy who wasn't recruited by anybody 16 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:05.319 and walked on at U of l out of Trinity 17 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:08.920 High School and became a very successful player here and 18 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:11.359 was a part of one of the more special teams 19 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:12.120 we've ever had. 20 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:14.840 And then you know what he did no love for 21 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:16.560 Cup in the draft boards. 22 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:18.599 Right, they're not there. They're not even they're not talking 23 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:20.120 about it. Him no invite to the combine. 24 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:20.640 What does he do? 25 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:24.640 He gets a He gets an invite free agent undrafted 26 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.879 camp with the Houston Texans, makes the fifty three man 27 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:31.120 roster as a rookie, which I always always joke with Cup. 28 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:33.120 He's gone on to have great success in the corporate world. 29 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:35.480 But like if I played in the NFL for a 30 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:37.480 he played more than one season, by the way, like 31 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:40.680 you'd have a tough time keeping me from telling everybody that. 32 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:42.560 And he nice to meet you. 33 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:46.200 Yeah, played in the NFL Houston Texans back into twenty thirteen. 34 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:49.040 Like it would be something I would probably just tattoo 35 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:51.560 on my head because that's a special accomplishment. He's so hot, 36 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:53.840 he's so modest, and he's a great guy, good friend 37 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.120 of mine. But he he stood us up. I do 38 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.840 have the explanation, Johnny ready, I'm ready for it. He 39 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:04.040 was held up on a call, I believe from when 40 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:07.159 I gather it was a zoom call or a team's call. 41 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:10.759 And he didn't say this, but this and maybe this 42 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.680 is just what I want to believe. To give Cup 43 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:14.039 the benefit of the doubt, which I do give him 44 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.879 the benefit of the doubt. He's helping us a lot 45 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:18.439 more than we're helping him when he comes on the 46 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:21.479 show for being honest. But I think because it's happened 47 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:24.159 to me. If you're on a long call, like you 48 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:25.800 can't get phone calls, which, by the way, if he's 49 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:27.360 on a call for work and we're calling him, like, 50 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.960 he has every right to not answer because he's working. 51 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.319 But his call ran long, and then he was about 52 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:35.000 to call in before I texted him and told him, Hey, 53 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:36.879 don't worry, man, We'll just do like we'll do. We'll 54 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:38.599 do We're gonna do Friday, by the way, that's when 55 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.439 Cup's gonna join us. But then he said he, you know, 56 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:42.280 he's at home working from home and the boys. He's 57 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:45.439 got two young boys that you know, we're we're you know, 58 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.360 rough housing, like like like Cupper boys would do so 59 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:51.479 and I've been there before, like I've got to sometimes 60 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:54.639 just go outside and do radio hits whenever. I rarely 61 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.599 do get a chance to join other people's show when 62 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:58.439 they want me, like I because if I'm in the 63 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:01.400 house and my kids are there, they could be well behaved, 64 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:06.120 just having fun. Being angels, which they sometimes can be. 65 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:09.120 And you know it's gonna be loud and it makes 66 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:13.159 me sound unprofessional. So my feelings aren't hurt, you know. 67 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:16.199 I I you know, my insecurity is probably getting the 68 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:18.199 best of me by even going into this great detail 69 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:20.280 as to how somebody could you know, leave us hanging 70 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.479 like that. But I do think his uh his reason 71 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.039 behind it is is I accepted. You accept it, John, 72 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:28.319 I accept okay, So we're good to go. 73 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:28.800 All right. 74 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:30.759 It is coffee and company and we are fueled by 75 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:32.759 Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Thank you so 76 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:36.080 much for hanging out with us here on a Wednesday afternoon. 77 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:37.879 Uh So, let's talk about the ACC. 78 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.560 It has been a wild, wild season so far in 79 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:45.360 the ACC, just because of the Florida state situation. 80 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.000 Right, they file a lawsuit. 81 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:51.159 They think that they're better than the league, and they 82 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.159 went about it a different way than Clemson. Like, I'm 83 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.039 not going to defend Clemson because Clemson. You know, I 84 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:59.120 think their fans are you know, when I hear about 85 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.960 the road trip to clar and how welcoming their fans are, 86 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:04.039 it's all kumbah, y'all. I think I think none of 87 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.599 that's legit. I think they do that almost to kind 88 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:09.680 of like patronize us, like they they all, you got 89 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:11.960 a cute little program. It's so cute you guys drove 90 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:14.560 down here to Clemson, South Carolina to come and play us. 91 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:17.279 All golly gee, you want to beer? Like, no, we're 92 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:19.160 here to beat your brains in. We haven't done that yet. 93 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:20.680 In fact, usually when we go there, we get our 94 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:23.319 brains beat in. But that's changing this year when brom 95 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:26.480 takes the squad down there hopefully to you know, get 96 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.480 our first win against them. The Florida State was arrogant, right, 97 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:33.759 You've got you know, chancellors, board members, you know what 98 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:43.360 are some other just fancy sounding titles. Chancellor's pretty good, right, yeah, right, donors, chairman, 99 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.360 the chairman of the boy like they were. They were 100 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:48.560 they just they think that they're you know what doesn't 101 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:52.040 stink and they I mean they had I mean, this 102 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.439 is insane. It was the Santis I think, who like 103 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.720 used like two million dollars of taxpayer money to do 104 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:59.480 an investigation to see if there was some kind of 105 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:01.639 like collude, like some kind of a conspiracy to keep 106 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:03.240 Florida State out of the playoff. Like get the hell 107 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:05.519 out of here, like and then you know the lawsuit 108 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:10.399 against the ACC. So to see Clemson get blown out 109 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:12.759 by Georgia and of course you know they could still 110 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:14.360 be pretty good, but Florida State's oh and three, and 111 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.920 now Florida State knows they're not good. So like, that's 112 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:21.000 why I took Memphis plus six and a half on Saturday, 113 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:24.240 because by the time they got to that game, two 114 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.839 embarrassing losses on national TV, both standalone games by the way, 115 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:30.319 they're lost of Georgia Tech in Boston College and then 116 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.720 a bye week to sit in it. They knew they're 117 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:34.759 in trouble. And Memphis is going in there feeling like 118 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.839 this team is primed to get beat. We've now seen 119 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:39.920 two teams expose their weaknesses. We're gonna go do it. 120 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.680 And again, the more that that happens, the harder it 121 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.759 is for you to be able to battle any kind 122 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:47.160 of adversity. That's why you know, last week when we 123 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:49.879 talked about the Louisville Kentucky game, like if Kentucky ended 124 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:53.399 up sucking this year, they'd still be up for the 125 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:57.279 Louisville game because it's a rival, and clearly that would 126 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.360 even if their season was terrible, that would at least 127 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:01.680 end it in a pot positive way. And I'm not 128 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:03.000 saying that's going to be the case, but like the 129 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:06.160 example I kept using was, you can get up for 130 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.279 a game and you can have momentum, but like if 131 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.959 you've been getting your teeth kicked in throughout the year, 132 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.040 and you know deep down like your season's really over, 133 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.319 you have four wins or something like that, that's when 134 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.560 if a team does get up on you a couple scores. 135 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.360 Not to say you think to yourself, I'm gonna lay 136 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:23.399 down and just want this to end. But the human 137 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:25.519 element is a powerful thing, and it would be much 138 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:27.040 harder for you to just kind of like, all right, 139 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:28.959 we're gonna come back from this deficit because you know, 140 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:30.560 we got a lot to play for. Like, you know, 141 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:33.160 so Florida State, I think actually will end up having 142 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:34.639 a really bad season. Like I think they're going to 143 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:35.879 lose a lot of games this year. Like I don't 144 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:38.199 think they're going to a bowl game. I mean, heck, 145 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.959 they're already h to three, they got nine games left 146 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:41.800 and they still play they. 147 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:43.720 Haven't even played any of the good team. Shit. 148 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:45.959 That's what's crazy, you know, they already hit their under 149 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.839 for their win total, and I don't think that's ever 150 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:48.519 happened before. 151 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.560 That's crazy, Yeah, I mean, like that's that's crazy. As 152 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:53.240 you said, I just took the words right out of 153 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:54.480 my mouth, or I took the words right out of 154 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:54.839 your mouth. 155 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:55.279 Either way. 156 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:59.279 So everybody pointing and laughing at Florida State has been enjoyable, 157 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.920 not just the ac see but nationally, you know, people 158 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:05.920 because and I kept remember when I kept asking, why 159 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:08.000 is it that everybody hates Florida State, Because when they 160 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.399 lost to Georgia Tech you could feel and you could 161 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:12.360 certainly feel it when they lost to Boston College, that 162 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:14.399 was a win for everybody that wasn't a Florida State fan. 163 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.199 And I'm thinking, are they like a villain? Like the 164 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:16.959 people not like them? 165 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:18.839 And it's you know, I guess I just had a 166 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:22.399 brain fart, because it's obvious they cried about the playoff 167 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:24.480 and still felt like you know, and they just they 168 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:26.439 it was in the past and they couldn't let it go. 169 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.519 They got politicians down there filing law you know, filing 170 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.000 lawsuits or using taxpayer money to do an investigation, all 171 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:36.079 this nonsense when you know, you just got left out 172 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:40.439 because clearly of a very unusual situation where it made 173 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:42.560 no sense to put you in there without your quarterback, 174 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:47.160 and other teams were just as deserving. So anyways, they're 175 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.519 the punching bag right now of the college football season, 176 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:52.639 and I love it. And I don't know if you 177 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:56.199 guys have seen the cow twitter world where they are. 178 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:01.279 I mean, it's it's become a national story where Florida 179 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:02.800 State and I don't even know if this is true, 180 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:07.759 but the belief is that their fan base heavily leans 181 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:12.519 to the right as Republicans and being very anti woke, 182 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.240 whereas Cal complete opposite. 183 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:15.240 You know, you think. 184 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.560 Free spirit like you know they woke, as they say. 185 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:23.959 So there's all these memes that's just hilarious of everybody 186 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.199 making fun of Florida State Cal Twitter. I mean, here 187 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.519 I am thinking Cal was going to bring the league down. 188 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.759 They got a chance to be ranked here soon, which 189 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:34.600 is crazy to say, but here we are. So as 190 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:36.440 much as it's been fun to make fun of Florida State, 191 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:39.559 let's be real. The ACC needs them not to say 192 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.399 that the league wouldn't survive without them, But if you 193 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.600 were to lose Florida State and they were able to 194 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:45.879 get out. That would mean that Clemson could probably do 195 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:48.519 the same thing. And as much as we hate them, 196 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:53.320 the ACC it, you know, it would not be anything 197 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:55.679 close to what the PAC twelve is trying to do 198 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.559 by just, you know, having the two worst teams that 199 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.600 got left behind, bring in some Mountain West teams and 200 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.039 try to act like they're a power for Power five. 201 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:05.679 I should say now because if you know, but so 202 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.320 but clearly you go back to the you go back 203 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.879 to the table with ESPN because you've lost Florida State 204 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.799 and Clemson. You're getting less than you already get now 205 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.080 what you're complaining about. So again, we all know, as 206 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:20.440 much as we hate them, the league needs them. So 207 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.240 I have no clue if this has anything to do 208 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:26.519 with maybe some humble pie being served down there in 209 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.840 Tallahassee or maybe same thing with Clemson, but it sounds 210 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.159 like they're making really good progress. So again, David Halo, 211 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:36.559 ESPN had this story that the discussions between those two 212 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:40.919 schools and the ACC regarding a change here to where 213 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:43.840 they would those school you know, schools like Florida State 214 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.039 and Clemson and those that have success could receive a 215 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:51.200 larger share of revenue based on brand valuation and TV ratings. 216 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.679 So this is okay, we're not just going to do 217 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:57.879 a revenue model where because they've already put that in 218 00:09:57.919 --> 00:09:59.519 place that you get a bigger share if you if 219 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:02.200 you're really good, like if you win, like, the more 220 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.000 success you have if you get to the playoff, you 221 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:06.159 get to the AEC championship game, like, you can make 222 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:08.639 more money, you can get a bigger share of that revenue. Well, 223 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:10.519 now this is not about that. This is just about 224 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:15.039 brand right, brand valuation as well as TV ratings. Who 225 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:16.679 watches you the most? Which, by the way, if that's 226 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.519 the case Louisville. You know, I'm a little surprised by this. 227 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.360 Maybe I shouldn't be, but Louisville does really well in 228 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:25.519 TV games as far as viewership, much more, much better 229 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:28.240 than I would have anticipated in some of these matchups. 230 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:33.200 But anyways, this deal proposes that you can what this 231 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:38.120 would do. It's a potential change to the current grant 232 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:41.639 of rights deal that runs through twenty thirty six. So 233 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:44.159 what would happen is that the ACC would say, yes, 234 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:49.200 we will alter the current league's grant of rights expiration 235 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:53.159 date to twenty thirty instead of twenty thirty six in 236 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:58.360 exchange for both schools dropping their lawsuits against the conversation. Now, 237 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.039 according to David Hill's report, conversations are still pretty early. 238 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.279 There's not been any kind of an agreement that's been made. 239 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:08.879 But you know this, this would be the best case 240 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:13.919 scenario where Clemson in Florida State drop their lawsuits under 241 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:17.080 improved financial terms to where they can close that gap 242 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:20.720 with peers. Because again they and this sounds petty, but 243 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.480 it's also life. Clemson does not think that they should 244 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:26.360 be in a situation where they're making less money than 245 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:30.279 South Carolina Florida State before too long. If there's no 246 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.600 adjustment made, there's a chance that Central Florida in the 247 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.960 Big twelve could be making more money from their revenue 248 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.519 deal in the Big twelve. Then Florida State would make 249 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:40.320 in the ACC like that's something that they're. 250 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:40.720 Not cool with. 251 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:46.080 So this proposal, it suggests that schools with better football 252 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.919 than basketball ratings are going to receive more revenue. The 253 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.480 report here says last year the AEC distributed forty four 254 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:55.879 point eight million per school. But the gap with the SEC, 255 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:57.840 of course, you know it's going to be widening. We 256 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:02.840 know that so Florida State, you know, they don't have 257 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:04.039 anywhere to go. That's one of the things I don't 258 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:06.279 understand about their lawsuit, Like why are they still continuing 259 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:07.919 to fight legally just to get out when they don't 260 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:10.240 really have anywhere to go? Now they probably find a spot, 261 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:13.840 but like you're having a tough tom beating Georgia Tech 262 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:19.000 in Boston College, like, and you also now have to 263 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.600 consider and this is not I mean, I doubt they're 264 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:26.639 there yet, but the money that's piling up, not that 265 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:29.279 you're making, that you're spending, I should say, the attorneys 266 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:33.120 are piling in money for your legal fight. That's money 267 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:34.919 that might have to go towards buying out your coach. 268 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:37.600 And again that sounds crazy because he just got a 269 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:39.440 huge extension and they were undefeated last year in the 270 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.840 regular season. But like, if Florida State goes three and 271 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:44.759 nine next year and he goes six and or the 272 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.000 three and nine, which I doubt that's the case, but 273 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.720 let's just say they go five and seven this year 274 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:51.039 and they go six and six next year, even seven 275 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.279 and five, Florida State fans are gonna want him gone, 276 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:54.840 and they're gonna look at the one year that he 277 00:12:54.879 --> 00:13:00.240 was good as an outlier. So again, no deal has 278 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.600 been made. But the big picture here what's happening is 279 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.320 that they're going to say, Okay, not only are you 280 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.840 going to be incentivized with a bigger revenue share based 281 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:12.799 off of your success, but also based off of what 282 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:14.679 you're bringing to the table when it comes to the 283 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.320 reach that the league is getting when it comes to viewership. 284 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:25.559 So let me Yeah, it says here that some athletic directors, 285 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:28.399 because again this is something the ACC collectively is going 286 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:30.159 to have to agree on, but some of the athletic directors, 287 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.759 according to David Hale, are concerned about how you're truly 288 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:36.720 going to be able to fairly measure TV ratings because 289 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:42.240 obviously it's not all the same. If you know, Louisville 290 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:49.759 plays Boston College on ABC and Wake Forest plays Virginia 291 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.440 Tech on the ACC network, and not that those two 292 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:55.679 matchups would ever be in those slots from a broadcast standpoint, 293 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:58.399 but it's not fair like network television is going to 294 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.679 get way bigger viewership. ESPN itself is gonna bring way 295 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:04.399 more viewership. It really doesn't have anything because again you 296 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.120 can claim, yeah, you see us, we had way more 297 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:10.200 viewers for our game than this matchup did. 298 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:11.879 And sometimes it'll be pretty obvious. 299 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:13.679 Yet it's because you're a better program and people are 300 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.159 gonna be more inclined to watch you play. But sometimes 301 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.320 that big gap that you see is based off the 302 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:20.639 fact that one game was on a national network the 303 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.600 other was on the league's network that just doesn't reach 304 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:27.120 as many people. So that is a legitimate point that 305 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:28.799 they bring up. It's like, how are you gonna, truly, 306 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.039 you know, put that in place. So and then again, 307 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:35.600 another big factor here is that you're not gonna have 308 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.320 to wait till twenty thirty six, because that's a big deal. 309 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:43.039 I mean, that's the dumbest thing Swafford ever did in 310 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:45.360 the ACC is to lock this in place for this long. 311 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:47.919 And even if the numbers were really good at the 312 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:49.840 time and they were right there, let's say the numbers 313 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:52.279 were better than what the SEC was getting or the 314 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:55.519 Big twelve or who have Big ten, you still don't 315 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:59.240 lock it in for that long because you know you 316 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:02.080 have the s in the Big ten. Like, let's just 317 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:03.879 say this doesn't work out and the league is stuck 318 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:05.840 in their grant of rights deal till twenty thirty six 319 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.679 and there's no adjustment made, you will have had the 320 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.360 SEC in the big ten re up what three times 321 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:16.320 in the amount that you all stuck to for twenty 322 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:19.960 thirty years whatever it was. I don't think it was 323 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.480 that long, but you know what I mean. So currently, ESPN, 324 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:27.840 you know, they hold obviously the ACC's TV contract option, 325 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.200 and they've been a part of this as well. They've 326 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:31.879 been involved in these talks. I don't know who it is, 327 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:33.960 but somebody from ESPN has been involved with this whole 328 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:35.919 discussion here to try to get this thing situated to 329 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.720 where the lawsuits are dropped. These schools don't really get 330 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:41.639 what they want meaning out, but they do get a 331 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.480 chance to bring in more revenue and close that gap 332 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:47.600 a little bit by being the schools that have the 333 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.039 most viewership and have the biggest brand. And how you 334 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:51.960 measure that is going to be it is going to 335 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.440 be kind of tricky, But you know that's that I 336 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:57.080 don't think I think that's best case, you know, if 337 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:00.799 everybody involved, because really, again, even though you could really 338 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.000 question how legit it is as far as how you're 339 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:05.799 determining who brings in the most, like does everybody have 340 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:08.879 because if everybody has the same exact amount of games 341 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:11.360 at the same time on the same network, that's really 342 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:12.840 how you get a true fair shake. 343 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:15.000 But there's other schools. 344 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:17.200 Again, this is part of the article that says that 345 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:19.799 there's a few schools and he doesn't mention who, but like, 346 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:25.360 I would bet Boston College and Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, 347 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.399 even Duke to be honest with you, they're thinking, okay, 348 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.480 like whatever whatever you gotta do to make it work, Like, 349 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.559 we'll support the league because we need the league more 350 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:38.879 than the league needs us, right, Like Duke's probably not 351 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.080 a great example just because of their basketball brand, even 352 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:43.039 though basketball doesn't matter as much as football. But when 353 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:47.200 it comes to these like again, if if the ACC 354 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:49.600 blew up, we know who, we know who the leftovers 355 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:51.159 would be. Let's say the majority of the league gets 356 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:54.960 gets gets you know, picked up by another conference or something. 357 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.919 Where is I mean, you're looking at Boston College and 358 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:00.960 Georgia Tech probably go to the American and they don't 359 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.599 want that. So as much as you want to play 360 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:06.359 hard ball, sometimes you kind of just have to know 361 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:08.279 who you are and know really what you cause. 362 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:09.839 Again, as much as we can make fun. 363 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:13.839 Of them, there's no way anybody could realistically argue that 364 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:18.000 the ACC gets the same value as far as reach 365 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:24.400 and brand from Boston College as they do Clemson or 366 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.920 Florida State, Right, So it is unfair in that aspect, 367 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.400 but you knew that when you signed it many years ago. 368 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:34.759 And look, the same thing happens elsewhere. Vandy's getting the 369 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.640 same money Alabama's getting. As crazy as it sounds, but 370 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:42.079 there's seemingly so much money there that nobody cares. Like 371 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:44.960 they're rolling in money in the SEC and the Big Ten, 372 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:47.720 that they don't care that they're actually sharing the same 373 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:51.599 amount of revenue as a school that doesn't bring anything 374 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:54.079 close to what they bring to the table. So again 375 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:56.440 it's early, there's no real agreement made. But this is 376 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.000 I think the most encouraging update in regards to this 377 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.440 whole situation. And really it's light at the end of 378 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:04.160 the tunnel if it works out, because I mean, I 379 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:06.640 remember thinking throughout the last year or so. Really, I 380 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:09.160 guess since the lawsuits happened, I don't really know how 381 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:11.319 scenario where this thing works out and everybody feels great 382 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:14.480 about it. But and again you'll still let people complaining, 383 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.000 and I'm sure Clemson in Florida State will continue to 384 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.799 look what they can do when you know the grant 385 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:22.920 of rights deal comes to an end in twenty thirty, 386 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:25.640 and maybe try to get out. But I think this 387 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.240 is best case scenario for everybody involved. But maybe that's 388 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:30.400 just me coming from the Louisville side of it, where 389 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.559 I realized that if the league did blow up, you know, 390 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.279 Louisville may not get like if you're talking about the 391 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.839 Big ten in the SEC, which is where you want 392 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:43.400 to be. If they're going to be gobbling up six schools, 393 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:44.960 I don't know if Lowell was one of them. I mean, 394 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:46.160 they might be, but you really don't know. 395 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:46.880 Now. 396 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:48.640 I guess you could also potentially find yourself in the 397 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.920 Big twelve, which you know, would be better than ending 398 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:56.240 up in an acc leftover league or you know. I mean, 399 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:58.240 I can't even the thought of Louisville being and like 400 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:01.920 the American just sounds insane. But I don't think we'll 401 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:03.519