Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm gonna choose to believe that hour number one
Speaker 2: was the success. I mean, that's up for you guys
Speaker 2: to decide. And if you'd think not, then you know
Speaker 2: here we are, Howard too. We're gonna try again. But
Speaker 2: we were left hanging by a staple within this show
Speaker 2: during football season. That's one Alex Cupper, former Louisville offensive lineman,
Speaker 2: a captain on that special season that resulted in a
Speaker 2: Sugar Bowl victory down in New Orleans against the Florida Gators,
Speaker 2: walked on at ufl became Charlie Strong's favorite offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: I can say that because I don't know if he
Speaker 2: used the word favorite, but my man Chuck would gas
Speaker 2: up Cup often. And I love this, see because cups
Speaker 2: a walk on a guy who wasn't recruited by anybody
Speaker 2: and walked on at U of l out of Trinity
Speaker 2: High School and became a very successful player here and
Speaker 2: was a part of one of the more special teams
Speaker 2: we've ever had.
Speaker 3: And then you know what he did no love for
Speaker 3: Cup in the draft boards.
Speaker 2: Right, they're not there. They're not even they're not talking
Speaker 2: about it. Him no invite to the combine.
Speaker 3: What does he do?
Speaker 2: He gets a He gets an invite free agent undrafted
Speaker 2: camp with the Houston Texans, makes the fifty three man
Speaker 2: roster as a rookie, which I always always joke with Cup.
Speaker 2: He's gone on to have great success in the corporate world.
Speaker 2: But like if I played in the NFL for a
Speaker 2: he played more than one season, by the way, like
Speaker 2: you'd have a tough time keeping me from telling everybody that.
Speaker 3: And he nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, played in the NFL Houston Texans back into twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: Like it would be something I would probably just tattoo
Speaker 2: on my head because that's a special accomplishment. He's so hot,
Speaker 2: he's so modest, and he's a great guy, good friend
Speaker 2: of mine. But he he stood us up. I do
Speaker 2: have the explanation, Johnny ready, I'm ready for it. He
Speaker 2: was held up on a call, I believe from when
Speaker 2: I gather it was a zoom call or a team's call.
Speaker 2: And he didn't say this, but this and maybe this
Speaker 2: is just what I want to believe. To give Cup
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt, which I do give him
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt. He's helping us a lot
Speaker 2: more than we're helping him when he comes on the
Speaker 2: show for being honest. But I think because it's happened
Speaker 2: to me. If you're on a long call, like you
Speaker 2: can't get phone calls, which, by the way, if he's
Speaker 2: on a call for work and we're calling him, like,
Speaker 2: he has every right to not answer because he's working.
Speaker 2: But his call ran long, and then he was about
Speaker 2: to call in before I texted him and told him, Hey,
Speaker 2: don't worry, man, We'll just do like we'll do. We'll
Speaker 2: do We're gonna do Friday, by the way, that's when
Speaker 2: Cup's gonna join us. But then he said he, you know,
Speaker 2: he's at home working from home and the boys. He's
Speaker 2: got two young boys that you know, we're we're you know,
Speaker 2: rough housing, like like like Cupper boys would do so
Speaker 2: and I've been there before, like I've got to sometimes
Speaker 2: just go outside and do radio hits whenever. I rarely
Speaker 2: do get a chance to join other people's show when
Speaker 2: they want me, like I because if I'm in the
Speaker 2: house and my kids are there, they could be well behaved,
Speaker 2: just having fun. Being angels, which they sometimes can be.
Speaker 2: And you know it's gonna be loud and it makes
Speaker 2: me sound unprofessional. So my feelings aren't hurt, you know.
Speaker 2: I I you know, my insecurity is probably getting the
Speaker 2: best of me by even going into this great detail
Speaker 2: as to how somebody could you know, leave us hanging
Speaker 2: like that. But I do think his uh his reason
Speaker 2: behind it is is I accepted. You accept it, John,
Speaker 2: I accept okay, So we're good to go.
Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 3: Uh So, let's talk about the ACC.
Speaker 2: It has been a wild, wild season so far in
Speaker 2: the ACC, just because of the Florida state situation.
Speaker 3: Right, they file a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: They think that they're better than the league, and they
Speaker 2: went about it a different way than Clemson. Like, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to defend Clemson because Clemson. You know, I
Speaker 2: think their fans are you know, when I hear about
Speaker 2: the road trip to clar and how welcoming their fans are,
Speaker 2: it's all kumbah, y'all. I think I think none of
Speaker 2: that's legit. I think they do that almost to kind
Speaker 2: of like patronize us, like they they all, you got
Speaker 2: a cute little program. It's so cute you guys drove
Speaker 2: down here to Clemson, South Carolina to come and play us.
Speaker 2: All golly gee, you want to beer? Like, no, we're
Speaker 2: here to beat your brains in. We haven't done that yet.
Speaker 2: In fact, usually when we go there, we get our
Speaker 2: brains beat in. But that's changing this year when brom
Speaker 2: takes the squad down there hopefully to you know, get
Speaker 2: our first win against them. The Florida State was arrogant, right,
Speaker 2: You've got you know, chancellors, board members, you know what
Speaker 2: are some other just fancy sounding titles. Chancellor's pretty good, right, yeah, right, donors, chairman,
Speaker 2: the chairman of the boy like they were. They were
Speaker 2: they just they think that they're you know what doesn't
Speaker 2: stink and they I mean they had I mean, this
Speaker 2: is insane. It was the Santis I think, who like
Speaker 2: used like two million dollars of taxpayer money to do
Speaker 2: an investigation to see if there was some kind of
Speaker 2: like collude, like some kind of a conspiracy to keep
Speaker 2: Florida State out of the playoff. Like get the hell
Speaker 2: out of here, like and then you know the lawsuit
Speaker 2: against the ACC. So to see Clemson get blown out
Speaker 2: by Georgia and of course you know they could still
Speaker 2: be pretty good, but Florida State's oh and three, and
Speaker 2: now Florida State knows they're not good. So like, that's
Speaker 2: why I took Memphis plus six and a half on Saturday,
Speaker 2: because by the time they got to that game, two
Speaker 2: embarrassing losses on national TV, both standalone games by the way,
Speaker 2: they're lost of Georgia Tech in Boston College and then
Speaker 2: a bye week to sit in it. They knew they're
Speaker 2: in trouble. And Memphis is going in there feeling like
Speaker 2: this team is primed to get beat. We've now seen
Speaker 2: two teams expose their weaknesses. We're gonna go do it.
Speaker 2: And again, the more that that happens, the harder it
Speaker 2: is for you to be able to battle any kind
Speaker 2: of adversity. That's why you know, last week when we
Speaker 2: talked about the Louisville Kentucky game, like if Kentucky ended
Speaker 2: up sucking this year, they'd still be up for the
Speaker 2: Louisville game because it's a rival, and clearly that would
Speaker 2: even if their season was terrible, that would at least
Speaker 2: end it in a pot positive way. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that's going to be the case, but like the
Speaker 2: example I kept using was, you can get up for
Speaker 2: a game and you can have momentum, but like if
Speaker 2: you've been getting your teeth kicked in throughout the year,
Speaker 2: and you know deep down like your season's really over,
Speaker 2: you have four wins or something like that, that's when
Speaker 2: if a team does get up on you a couple scores.
Speaker 2: Not to say you think to yourself, I'm gonna lay
Speaker 2: down and just want this to end. But the human
Speaker 2: element is a powerful thing, and it would be much
Speaker 2: harder for you to just kind of like, all right,
Speaker 2: we're gonna come back from this deficit because you know,
Speaker 2: we got a lot to play for. Like, you know,
Speaker 2: so Florida State, I think actually will end up having
Speaker 2: a really bad season. Like I think they're going to
Speaker 2: lose a lot of games this year. Like I don't
Speaker 2: think they're going to a bowl game. I mean, heck,
Speaker 2: they're already h to three, they got nine games left
Speaker 2: and they still play they.
Speaker 3: Haven't even played any of the good team. Shit.
Speaker 4: That's what's crazy, you know, they already hit their under
Speaker 4: for their win total, and I don't think that's ever
Speaker 4: happened before.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, Yeah, I mean, like that's that's crazy. As
Speaker 2: you said, I just took the words right out of
Speaker 2: my mouth, or I took the words right out of
Speaker 2: your mouth.
Speaker 3: Either way.
Speaker 2: So everybody pointing and laughing at Florida State has been enjoyable,
Speaker 2: not just the ac see but nationally, you know, people
Speaker 2: because and I kept remember when I kept asking, why
Speaker 2: is it that everybody hates Florida State, Because when they
Speaker 2: lost to Georgia Tech you could feel and you could
Speaker 2: certainly feel it when they lost to Boston College, that
Speaker 2: was a win for everybody that wasn't a Florida State fan.
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, are they like a villain? Like the
Speaker 3: people not like them?
Speaker 2: And it's you know, I guess I just had a
Speaker 2: brain fart, because it's obvious they cried about the playoff
Speaker 2: and still felt like you know, and they just they
Speaker 2: it was in the past and they couldn't let it go.
Speaker 2: They got politicians down there filing law you know, filing
Speaker 2: lawsuits or using taxpayer money to do an investigation, all
Speaker 2: this nonsense when you know, you just got left out
Speaker 2: because clearly of a very unusual situation where it made
Speaker 2: no sense to put you in there without your quarterback,
Speaker 2: and other teams were just as deserving. So anyways, they're
Speaker 2: the punching bag right now of the college football season,
Speaker 2: and I love it. And I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys have seen the cow twitter world where they are.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's become a national story where Florida
Speaker 2: State and I don't even know if this is true,
Speaker 2: but the belief is that their fan base heavily leans
Speaker 2: to the right as Republicans and being very anti woke,
Speaker 2: whereas Cal complete opposite.
Speaker 3: You know, you think.
Speaker 2: Free spirit like you know they woke, as they say.
Speaker 2: So there's all these memes that's just hilarious of everybody
Speaker 2: making fun of Florida State Cal Twitter. I mean, here
Speaker 2: I am thinking Cal was going to bring the league down.
Speaker 2: They got a chance to be ranked here soon, which
Speaker 2: is crazy to say, but here we are. So as
Speaker 2: much as it's been fun to make fun of Florida State,
Speaker 2: let's be real. The ACC needs them not to say
Speaker 2: that the league wouldn't survive without them, But if you
Speaker 2: were to lose Florida State and they were able to
Speaker 2: get out. That would mean that Clemson could probably do
Speaker 2: the same thing. And as much as we hate them,
Speaker 2: the ACC it, you know, it would not be anything
Speaker 2: close to what the PAC twelve is trying to do
Speaker 2: by just, you know, having the two worst teams that
Speaker 2: got left behind, bring in some Mountain West teams and
Speaker 2: try to act like they're a power for Power five.
Speaker 2: I should say now because if you know, but so
Speaker 2: but clearly you go back to the you go back
Speaker 2: to the table with ESPN because you've lost Florida State
Speaker 2: and Clemson. You're getting less than you already get now
Speaker 2: what you're complaining about. So again, we all know, as
Speaker 2: much as we hate them, the league needs them. So
Speaker 2: I have no clue if this has anything to do
Speaker 2: with maybe some humble pie being served down there in
Speaker 2: Tallahassee or maybe same thing with Clemson, but it sounds
Speaker 2: like they're making really good progress. So again, David Halo,
Speaker 2: ESPN had this story that the discussions between those two
Speaker 2: schools and the ACC regarding a change here to where
Speaker 2: they would those school you know, schools like Florida State
Speaker 2: and Clemson and those that have success could receive a
Speaker 2: larger share of revenue based on brand valuation and TV ratings.
Speaker 2: So this is okay, we're not just going to do
Speaker 2: a revenue model where because they've already put that in
Speaker 2: place that you get a bigger share if you if
Speaker 2: you're really good, like if you win, like, the more
Speaker 2: success you have if you get to the playoff, you
Speaker 2: get to the AEC championship game, like, you can make
Speaker 2: more money, you can get a bigger share of that revenue. Well,
Speaker 2: now this is not about that. This is just about
Speaker 2: brand right, brand valuation as well as TV ratings. Who
Speaker 2: watches you the most? Which, by the way, if that's
Speaker 2: the case Louisville. You know, I'm a little surprised by this.
Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't be, but Louisville does really well in
Speaker 2: TV games as far as viewership, much more, much better
Speaker 2: than I would have anticipated in some of these matchups.
Speaker 2: But anyways, this deal proposes that you can what this
Speaker 2: would do. It's a potential change to the current grant
Speaker 2: of rights deal that runs through twenty thirty six. So
Speaker 2: what would happen is that the ACC would say, yes,
Speaker 2: we will alter the current league's grant of rights expiration
Speaker 2: date to twenty thirty instead of twenty thirty six in
Speaker 2: exchange for both schools dropping their lawsuits against the conversation. Now,
Speaker 2: according to David Hill's report, conversations are still pretty early.
Speaker 2: There's not been any kind of an agreement that's been made.
Speaker 2: But you know this, this would be the best case
Speaker 2: scenario where Clemson in Florida State drop their lawsuits under
Speaker 2: improved financial terms to where they can close that gap
Speaker 2: with peers. Because again they and this sounds petty, but
Speaker 2: it's also life. Clemson does not think that they should
Speaker 2: be in a situation where they're making less money than
Speaker 2: South Carolina Florida State before too long. If there's no
Speaker 2: adjustment made, there's a chance that Central Florida in the
Speaker 2: Big twelve could be making more money from their revenue
Speaker 2: deal in the Big twelve. Then Florida State would make
Speaker 2: in the ACC like that's something that they're.
Speaker 3: Not cool with.
Speaker 2: So this proposal, it suggests that schools with better football
Speaker 2: than basketball ratings are going to receive more revenue. The
Speaker 2: report here says last year the AEC distributed forty four
Speaker 2: point eight million per school. But the gap with the SEC,
Speaker 2: of course, you know it's going to be widening. We
Speaker 2: know that so Florida State, you know, they don't have
Speaker 2: anywhere to go. That's one of the things I don't
Speaker 2: understand about their lawsuit, Like why are they still continuing
Speaker 2: to fight legally just to get out when they don't
Speaker 2: really have anywhere to go? Now they probably find a spot,
Speaker 2: but like you're having a tough tom beating Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: in Boston College, like, and you also now have to
Speaker 2: consider and this is not I mean, I doubt they're
Speaker 2: there yet, but the money that's piling up, not that
Speaker 2: you're making, that you're spending, I should say, the attorneys
Speaker 2: are piling in money for your legal fight. That's money
Speaker 2: that might have to go towards buying out your coach.
Speaker 2: And again that sounds crazy because he just got a
Speaker 2: huge extension and they were undefeated last year in the
Speaker 2: regular season. But like, if Florida State goes three and
Speaker 2: nine next year and he goes six and or the
Speaker 2: three and nine, which I doubt that's the case, but
Speaker 2: let's just say they go five and seven this year
Speaker 2: and they go six and six next year, even seven
Speaker 2: and five, Florida State fans are gonna want him gone,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna look at the one year that he
Speaker 2: was good as an outlier. So again, no deal has
Speaker 2: been made. But the big picture here what's happening is
Speaker 2: that they're going to say, Okay, not only are you
Speaker 2: going to be incentivized with a bigger revenue share based
Speaker 2: off of your success, but also based off of what
Speaker 2: you're bringing to the table when it comes to the
Speaker 2: reach that the league is getting when it comes to viewership.
Speaker 2: So let me Yeah, it says here that some athletic directors,
Speaker 2: because again this is something the ACC collectively is going
Speaker 2: to have to agree on, but some of the athletic directors,
Speaker 2: according to David Hale, are concerned about how you're truly
Speaker 2: going to be able to fairly measure TV ratings because
Speaker 2: obviously it's not all the same. If you know, Louisville
Speaker 2: plays Boston College on ABC and Wake Forest plays Virginia
Speaker 2: Tech on the ACC network, and not that those two
Speaker 2: matchups would ever be in those slots from a broadcast standpoint,
Speaker 2: but it's not fair like network television is going to
Speaker 2: get way bigger viewership. ESPN itself is gonna bring way
Speaker 2: more viewership. It really doesn't have anything because again you
Speaker 2: can claim, yeah, you see us, we had way more
Speaker 2: viewers for our game than this matchup did.
Speaker 3: And sometimes it'll be pretty obvious.
Speaker 2: Yet it's because you're a better program and people are
Speaker 2: gonna be more inclined to watch you play. But sometimes
Speaker 2: that big gap that you see is based off the
Speaker 2: fact that one game was on a national network the
Speaker 2: other was on the league's network that just doesn't reach
Speaker 2: as many people. So that is a legitimate point that
Speaker 2: they bring up. It's like, how are you gonna, truly,
Speaker 2: you know, put that in place. So and then again,
Speaker 2: another big factor here is that you're not gonna have
Speaker 2: to wait till twenty thirty six, because that's a big deal.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the dumbest thing Swafford ever did in
Speaker 2: the ACC is to lock this in place for this long.
Speaker 2: And even if the numbers were really good at the
Speaker 2: time and they were right there, let's say the numbers
Speaker 2: were better than what the SEC was getting or the
Speaker 2: Big twelve or who have Big ten, you still don't
Speaker 2: lock it in for that long because you know you
Speaker 2: have the s in the Big ten. Like, let's just
Speaker 2: say this doesn't work out and the league is stuck
Speaker 2: in their grant of rights deal till twenty thirty six
Speaker 2: and there's no adjustment made, you will have had the
Speaker 2: SEC in the big ten re up what three times
Speaker 2: in the amount that you all stuck to for twenty
Speaker 2: thirty years whatever it was. I don't think it was
Speaker 2: that long, but you know what I mean. So currently, ESPN,
Speaker 2: you know, they hold obviously the ACC's TV contract option,
Speaker 2: and they've been a part of this as well. They've
Speaker 2: been involved in these talks. I don't know who it is,
Speaker 2: but somebody from ESPN has been involved with this whole
Speaker 2: discussion here to try to get this thing situated to
Speaker 2: where the lawsuits are dropped. These schools don't really get
Speaker 2: what they want meaning out, but they do get a
Speaker 2: chance to bring in more revenue and close that gap
Speaker 2: a little bit by being the schools that have the
Speaker 2: most viewership and have the biggest brand. And how you
Speaker 2: measure that is going to be it is going to
Speaker 2: be kind of tricky, But you know that's that I
Speaker 2: don't think I think that's best case, you know, if
Speaker 2: everybody involved, because really, again, even though you could really
Speaker 2: question how legit it is as far as how you're
Speaker 2: determining who brings in the most, like does everybody have
Speaker 2: because if everybody has the same exact amount of games
Speaker 2: at the same time on the same network, that's really
Speaker 2: how you get a true fair shake.
Speaker 3: But there's other schools.
Speaker 2: Again, this is part of the article that says that
Speaker 2: there's a few schools and he doesn't mention who, but like,
Speaker 2: I would bet Boston College and Georgia Tech, Wake Forest,
Speaker 2: even Duke to be honest with you, they're thinking, okay,
Speaker 2: like whatever whatever you gotta do to make it work, Like,
Speaker 2: we'll support the league because we need the league more
Speaker 2: than the league needs us, right, Like Duke's probably not
Speaker 2: a great example just because of their basketball brand, even
Speaker 2: though basketball doesn't matter as much as football. But when
Speaker 2: it comes to these like again, if if the ACC
Speaker 2: blew up, we know who, we know who the leftovers
Speaker 2: would be. Let's say the majority of the league gets
Speaker 2: gets gets you know, picked up by another conference or something.
Speaker 2: Where is I mean, you're looking at Boston College and
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech probably go to the American and they don't
Speaker 2: want that. So as much as you want to play
Speaker 2: hard ball, sometimes you kind of just have to know
Speaker 2: who you are and know really what you cause.
Speaker 3: Again, as much as we can make fun.
Speaker 2: Of them, there's no way anybody could realistically argue that
Speaker 2: the ACC gets the same value as far as reach
Speaker 2: and brand from Boston College as they do Clemson or
Speaker 2: Florida State, Right, So it is unfair in that aspect,
Speaker 2: but you knew that when you signed it many years ago.
Speaker 2: And look, the same thing happens elsewhere. Vandy's getting the
Speaker 2: same money Alabama's getting. As crazy as it sounds, but
Speaker 2: there's seemingly so much money there that nobody cares. Like
Speaker 2: they're rolling in money in the SEC and the Big Ten,
Speaker 2: that they don't care that they're actually sharing the same
Speaker 2: amount of revenue as a school that doesn't bring anything
Speaker 2: close to what they bring to the table. So again
Speaker 2: it's early, there's no real agreement made. But this is
Speaker 2: I think the most encouraging update in regards to this
Speaker 2: whole situation. And really it's light at the end of
Speaker 2: the tunnel if it works out, because I mean, I
Speaker 2: remember thinking throughout the last year or so. Really, I
Speaker 2: guess since the lawsuits happened, I don't really know how
Speaker 2: scenario where this thing works out and everybody feels great
Speaker 2: about it. But and again you'll still let people complaining,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure Clemson in Florida State will continue to
Speaker 2: look what they can do when you know the grant
Speaker 2: of rights deal comes to an end in twenty thirty,
Speaker 2: and maybe try to get out. But I think this
Speaker 2: is best case scenario for everybody involved. But maybe that's
Speaker 2: just me coming from the Louisville side of it, where
Speaker 2: I realized that if the league did blow up, you know,
Speaker 2: Louisville may not get like if you're talking about the
Speaker 2: Big ten in the SEC, which is where you want
Speaker 2: to be. If they're going to be gobbling up six schools,
Speaker 2: I don't know if Lowell was one of them. I mean,
Speaker 2: they might be, but you really don't know.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I guess you could also potentially find yourself in the
Speaker 2: Big twelve, which you know, would be better than ending
Speaker 2: up in an acc leftover league or you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't even the thought of Louisville being and like
Speaker 2: the American just sounds insane. But I don't think we'll
Speaker 2: get there. All right, quick break, we'll come back on
Speaker 2: the other side. I mentioned we've got a lot of
Speaker 2: guests joining us today. We were already stood up once.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding Cup, I mean, it did happen, but you know,
Speaker 2: just just messing with you. But we are gonna have
Speaker 2: a guest on the other side that I'm quite confident
Speaker 2: is not going to stand us up. That is Sarah
Speaker 2: Cannette who's going to be joining us from Jefferson Animal
Speaker 2: Hospital here on the other side to talk about their
Speaker 2: pet blood banks.
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Speaker 2: we do have a guest joining us here on behalf
Speaker 2: of Jefferson Animal Hospital, Sarah Kennette, making her debut here
Speaker 2: with us here on Coffee and Company. How you doing
Speaker 2: this afternoon, Sarah?
Speaker 3: Are you with me?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 3: Sorry about that function.
Speaker 2: On my end with the phone, so apologies, but thank
Speaker 2: you for making time with us. We certainly do appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And I've talked a lot about what you guys have
Speaker 2: over Jefferson Animal Hospital in the last few weeks, and
Speaker 2: that is a pet blood bank.
Speaker 3: And I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2: For me, it's not something I was super familiar with
Speaker 2: until I learned a little more about what you guys
Speaker 2: are doing. But how did this idea come about? And
Speaker 2: I guess what was the inspiration behind starting the pet
Speaker 2: blood bank?
Speaker 5: So in about twenty fourteen, I started this program mostly
Speaker 5: because at the time, we were experiencing long week times
Speaker 5: for blood products, so our animals in hospital that needed
Speaker 5: it couldn't get it in a timely manner. On average,
Speaker 5: it was about two weeks at that time, and the
Speaker 5: state of the blood banking world is the same now,
Speaker 5: if not worse than it was ten years ago. I've
Speaker 5: seen wait times this past year range from four weeks
Speaker 5: to several months in some cases. And aside from availability issues,
Speaker 5: we wanted to have control over how our blood was
Speaker 5: collected and have a hand in our don and their care.
Speaker 5: We wanted to know where our blood was coming from
Speaker 5: and that was important to us.
Speaker 2: So I could be wrong here, but I feel like
Speaker 2: there are a lot of pet owners that may not
Speaker 2: have a clue that their pets can actually be blood
Speaker 2: donors just like their owners can. So I guess talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about which pets are eligible to donate
Speaker 2: and the benefits not only for them, but for you,
Speaker 2: for everybody if in fact they do get their pets
Speaker 2: involved here and have them donate blood.
Speaker 5: Sure, so, both dogs and cats, as far as requirements go,
Speaker 5: they need to be at least a year to join
Speaker 5: our program. Basic requirements are based around weight, which for
Speaker 5: dogs is preferably over fifty pounds, but we will take
Speaker 5: forty pounds since they can donate half units, and cats
Speaker 5: need to be at least ten pounds and strictly indoors
Speaker 5: otherwise it's pretty much needing them to be current on
Speaker 5: their vaccines and monthly preventatives and then good health and
Speaker 5: that pretty much gets them started in that process as
Speaker 5: far as benefits go. The screening that we do is
Speaker 5: done at no charge, and that involves an initial blood
Speaker 5: typing which if they continue on in their deemed blood
Speaker 5: type that we are currently accepting, we do full blood
Speaker 5: typing panel along with a infectious disease panel which covers
Speaker 5: roughly about twelve common diseases, plus heartworm testing and a
Speaker 5: general health profile, and then we also cover their annual
Speaker 5: exam radies, just temper vaccines, fecal exams, and the lab
Speaker 5: testing is repeated annually with their annuals, and of course
Speaker 5: there's always that warm, fuzzy feeling that you save the
Speaker 5: life of Sure's best friend, which is what most people
Speaker 5: are in it for.
Speaker 2: And that was going to be my next question is
Speaker 2: do you guys, do you get much hesitancy from people
Speaker 2: who have pets and they just, you know, it's new
Speaker 2: to them. They weren't aware that their pets could actually
Speaker 2: be blood donors. Because again, I feel like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of incentives that you mentioned there as to why
Speaker 2: you should do it, but helping save pets lives, that's
Speaker 2: got to be the one that gets the process started
Speaker 2: for a lot of these people who wouldn't want to
Speaker 2: do that, right.
Speaker 5: Sure, that's pretty much at the top of the list, really,
Speaker 5: And most people don't know that animal blood banks or
Speaker 5: blood donations are a thing. That's usually the most common
Speaker 5: thing that's told to me is I never knew that
Speaker 5: this was a thing.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I'm glad you shared that, Sarah, because
Speaker 2: that makes me not feel as dumb because I was
Speaker 2: totally unaware that this was the thing at all.
Speaker 5: Very few people really know, and it's because they have
Speaker 5: not been They have been fortunate to not need a
Speaker 5: blood transfusion for sure, pets before their pets have been
Speaker 5: in good health. A lot of our donors come from
Speaker 5: families that have had a pet that receive blood and
Speaker 5: they just want to give back because someone else's pets
Speaker 5: saved theirs.
Speaker 3: That makes total sense.
Speaker 5: Have a pay it forward kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes total sense. And for those just not
Speaker 2: joining as Sarah Canet as our guest, she's from Jefferson
Speaker 2: Animal Hospital. She's the director of the Pet Blood Bank.
Speaker 2: And for those that are familiar with giving blood, they've
Speaker 2: donated blood themselves. You know as a human, how different
Speaker 2: is the process for a pet when it come to like,
Speaker 2: you know, bringing them in and just what they can
Speaker 2: expect that, you know is maybe similar or different from
Speaker 2: when you go in and donate blood yourself.
Speaker 5: It's not very different from humans donating blood. The most
Speaker 5: difficult aspect for us is your pets don't know what
Speaker 5: we're expecting of them. So it is a lot of
Speaker 5: positive reinforcement, a lot of treats, and it's a little
Speaker 5: bit of a slow going getting them introduced to where
Speaker 5: they understand what we're asking from them. Takes about twenty
Speaker 5: five minutes total from start to finish of their appointment.
Speaker 5: Usually the actual collection time is about ten minutes. Cats
Speaker 5: are not as willing as their K nine friends, So
Speaker 5: the difference for them is they do have to be
Speaker 5: fully sedated. I think because of that, it is harder
Speaker 5: for owners to want to have their pets or their
Speaker 5: cats rather have them donate, which is why cat blood
Speaker 5: is at a higher shortage nationally than dog most of
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 2: So the awareness of this and that's you know, that's why,
Speaker 2: that's why you guys have an event coming up that
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about in just a minute. And
Speaker 2: you mentioned I think it makes total sense that some
Speaker 2: of the most willing folks to get involved here is
Speaker 2: because a blood transfusion might have helped save their pet,
Speaker 2: and because you mentioned they want to pay it forward
Speaker 2: and give back.
Speaker 3: But how has.
Speaker 2: The the awareness, How is spreading the awareness gone in
Speaker 2: your industry?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I mean again, I'm sure it's it's a never ending
Speaker 2: thing to make people aware of this and how important
Speaker 2: it is that it can save lives, and that again,
Speaker 2: that's why you guys are about to have this event
Speaker 2: that we're really excited about next month. But just from
Speaker 2: I guess an INDI, you know, an overall industry of
Speaker 2: of what you guys do, do you feel like it's
Speaker 2: heading in the right direction where more and more people
Speaker 2: are learning of this.
Speaker 5: We try, you know, I think it does get better
Speaker 5: and the more people that are in our program kind
Speaker 5: of tell their friends and their family and that kind
Speaker 5: of thing, and we try to do more community outreach
Speaker 5: to try and help spread the word. You know, there's
Speaker 5: blood banks all over the country, but it's not enough
Speaker 5: obviously for humans and people. Surely there's always a need.
Speaker 5: And as the pet population grows, so that need grows
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 2: So if there are pet owners listening right now and
Speaker 2: they're interested in they're being educated on how important it is,
Speaker 2: and you know, of the overall process, what is the
Speaker 2: best step for them to get to get enrolled here?
Speaker 5: They can call our office at five oh two nine
Speaker 5: sixty six four one zero four. Easier way is to
Speaker 5: email us at blood Bank at Jefferson Vetts dot com.
Speaker 5: I monitor that email a lot of times when I'm
Speaker 5: not in the office, so it's usually a quicker way
Speaker 5: to get a response.
Speaker 2: Now, the event that's coming up with the American Red
Speaker 2: Cross next month, tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: I've been I've been sharing some information about it with
Speaker 2: our listeners throughout the last few weeks, but obviously nobody
Speaker 2: better than yourself to kind of get us excited about
Speaker 2: this event next month.
Speaker 5: Sure, So on October nineteenth, we we'll be hosting an
Speaker 5: event with the American Red Cross to help bring awareness
Speaker 5: to the dire need of human and animal blood. They'll
Speaker 5: be on site to collect donations from humans, and we
Speaker 5: will be here providing screenings for and cats that may
Speaker 5: be interested or even if people just want to come
Speaker 5: out and meet with us, talk with us, see where
Speaker 5: we do the donations. We'll have some mock donations so
Speaker 5: that they can kind of see the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like a demonstration as far as what
Speaker 2: exactly it is you're doing. Yeah, I'm sure that probably
Speaker 2: makes pet owners a lot more comfortable once they see
Speaker 2: that process.
Speaker 5: Exactly, once they see how we do things. It usually
Speaker 5: puts everybody at ease. And owners are always welcome to
Speaker 5: be with their pets when they donate, which also makes
Speaker 5: that easier for them, you know, And it's also our
Speaker 5: ten year anniversary of doing this since we started the
Speaker 5: blood Bank ten years ago, so we wanted to have
Speaker 5: a day where we honored both the active and retired
Speaker 5: donor families and all of the commitments that they've given
Speaker 5: us over the years. We've had donors for stay in
Speaker 5: the program for many, many years, so we wanted to
Speaker 5: do something for them. It's going to be a great afternoon.
Speaker 5: We invite everybody to come join us. It's from nine
Speaker 5: am to two pm at our outer Loop location. It's
Speaker 5: gonna be a fun afternoon.
Speaker 3: Pints for pausing people. Should be a lot of fun. Again.
Speaker 2: You can get more information at pet bloodbank dot com
Speaker 2: or give them a call FABO too. Nine hundred pets
Speaker 2: is the number. I have one more question just because
Speaker 2: when you mentioned folks being aware that this is helping
Speaker 2: save lives of other pets and how important it is,
Speaker 2: and I am putting you on the spot a little
Speaker 2: bit here, Sarah, So I apologize, but I mean, are
Speaker 2: there are those are there stories that you guys can share.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've known if you can get into the
Speaker 2: specifics of like if somebody did in fact donate and
Speaker 2: they I mean, do they ever figure out and again,
Speaker 2: maybe it's maybe impossible for people to know this, but
Speaker 2: like what they actually did, did it help save this
Speaker 2: pet or that pet? And again that may be information
Speaker 2: that's not available, but I know that's got to be
Speaker 2: the best way for people to to to just say, Okay, look,
Speaker 2: i'm gonna go do this. I'm gonna make it a
Speaker 2: point to come to the event. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 2: that my pet is eligible, and then we're gonna donate
Speaker 2: blood and we're gonna help save lives. I just think
Speaker 2: that's the more you mention that. And again, you guys
Speaker 2: do a great job of making people aware of it
Speaker 2: as it is, but I feel like that's something that
Speaker 2: like that's gonna all that can do is help with
Speaker 2: the awareness of this whole thing.
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, and you know, I keep we send blood
Speaker 5: all over the country. We if somebody, if there's a
Speaker 5: hospital out there that needs blood from us, we will
Speaker 5: do our best to provide them with what they need.
Speaker 5: And if someone's pet gave blood, I can look and
Speaker 5: see where that blood went. Was it someone locally? Was
Speaker 5: it somewhere in Texas or New York? So you know,
Speaker 5: I have the ability to tell them that and we've
Speaker 5: gotten feedback from other hospitals that have sent us, you know,
Speaker 5: information that you know, their owners are so thankful that
Speaker 5: our great here have helped save them.
Speaker 2: So each pet donation can save up to four to
Speaker 2: six lives. I think that alone, if you're listening out there,
Speaker 2: that should incentivize you to to get more information and
Speaker 2: get involved and again help help save lives.
Speaker 3: That's who wouldn't want to do that.
Speaker 2: So, Sarah, I appreciate you so much for making time
Speaker 2: for us, also appreciate the great work you do, and
Speaker 2: we look forward to the event next month at the
Speaker 2: Jefferson Animal Hospital on Matter Loop. It's pines for paws
Speaker 2: and people, so we will see you there.
Speaker 5: Thanks so much, Sarah, perfect, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I take care again, that is Sarah Cannett really good stuff.
Speaker 2: Who wouldn't want to be a part of a I
Speaker 2: mean again, not only is it good for your pets
Speaker 2: to take advantage of all that comes with being a
Speaker 2: pet blood donor, meaning where you can get your vaccinations,
Speaker 2: you can get your regular examinations. I mean that's just
Speaker 2: keeping you know your you're pet healthy, making sure that
Speaker 2: they're being well taken care, but you're also helping save
Speaker 2: pets lives again. That is, every donation can save up
Speaker 2: to four to six lives. I mean that that is
Speaker 2: knowing that everybody should be out there getting involved, and
Speaker 2: I encourage you to do exactly that. So again, big
Speaker 2: thanks to Sarah, Big thanks to the Jefferson Animal Hospital.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we'll come back here on the
Speaker 2: other side. Keep this thing rolling along. I want to
Speaker 2: let you guys hear where Pat Kelsey had to say
Speaker 2: about Mark Pope.
Speaker 3: It's it's not juicy.
Speaker 2: I don't want to act as if like he's out
Speaker 2: there throwing the first jab across the bow at the
Speaker 2: at the rival, because I actually think those guys are
Speaker 2: probably going to like each other pretty well. I don't
Speaker 2: know though, maybe it gets you know, Pat, Pat's a
Speaker 2: fiery competitor. Maybe maybe maybe that maybe that changes. But anyways,
Speaker 2: we'll get into that in a lot more. We also
Speaker 2: need to lets you hear what Deon Sanders had to say,
Speaker 2: so stick with us. It's Coffee and Company Field by
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Speaker 2: already almost five o'clock, and I thought we'd have more
Speaker 2: time here in the endo the four o'clock, but we don't.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about this.
Speaker 2: I I don't know if I'm alone here, but when
Speaker 2: I saw Craig Greenberg, may or Greenberg I should say
Speaker 2: his comments on the recent street racing arrests that have
Speaker 2: gone on in Louisville, thought to myself, like that that
Speaker 2: that's a cool idea, but like there's no way they'd
Speaker 2: ever be able to do that, right, So for those
Speaker 2: who don't know. Street racing has been keeping l MPD
Speaker 2: very busy in the last few weeks. Just this week
Speaker 2: they've seized I think twenty different cars that have been
Speaker 2: involved in some of these viral videos that you've seen
Speaker 2: where they're like shutting down interstates to do donuts in
Speaker 2: the in a you know, not in a parking lot,
Speaker 2: but in you know, on the inner like it's it's crazy.
Speaker 2: In fact, there was one that took place a few
Speaker 2: days ago down I believe near Slugger Field.
Speaker 4: And I mean, don't think call these like takeover events
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm yeah, I've heard that before. I
Speaker 2: don't I think that's what this stuff is. But and
Speaker 2: it's not from an eye, it's not like to to
Speaker 2: to like to protest. From what I can tell, it's
Speaker 2: just you know, people doing stupid. I see people shouldn't do.
Speaker 4: The humans that are around the circle where they're doing
Speaker 4: these donuts sometimes they'll get completely like knocked over by
Speaker 4: theseus and go flying in the air and somehow they're
Speaker 4: you know fire.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen this that in Louisville. But that's but
Speaker 2: that's what you have to be fearful of. That's why
Speaker 2: these people who they're they they're and they're finding them
Speaker 2: by the way they're they're finding the people who are
Speaker 2: on like the body cam footage or the videos that
Speaker 2: people post on social media. They are able to identify
Speaker 2: who these cars belong to with the plate. They've identified
Speaker 2: people who jumped on because sometimes police cars have shown
Speaker 2: up to shut these down and people jump on the
Speaker 2: police car. I mean, like why would why would you
Speaker 2: do that? So they're able to get not a great image,
Speaker 2: but something from the from the camera that's on their
Speaker 2: vehicle or on them, and they're finding out who these
Speaker 2: people are, and they're arresting them, and they're getting their
Speaker 2: cars seized, they're getting they're getting compensated. So you know,
Speaker 2: like if you are doing that, even if you don't
Speaker 2: hit somebody, but your vehicle is doing what you what
Speaker 2: you mentioned there John, where you it's I mean, is
Speaker 2: it called UH drifting?
Speaker 3: I think that's what it's called. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of like Tokyo drift with UH with fast
Speaker 2: and the furious. So I've seen some of the charges
Speaker 2: that that these these people are getting charged with. It's
Speaker 2: like one engagement first degree because you could you could
Speaker 2: kill somebody by doing that. I mean, it's it's I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't get the fun at it. But
Speaker 2: like clearly it's you know, it's the thing, and it's
Speaker 2: scary and you gotta you know, you probably aren't really
Speaker 2: allowed to do what they're doing anywhere, but to see
Speaker 2: it like in places where you know, like they're just
Speaker 2: taking over again, that's why you mentioned they call them takeovers.
Speaker 3: But here's one thing.
Speaker 2: That that Mayor Greenberg said. I want to keep this
Speaker 2: saying Craig, but he needs to be referred to as
Speaker 2: his title, which is the Mayor of LOUISLL Craig Greenberg quote.
Speaker 2: One innovative approach that some other states are taking are
Speaker 2: not only are they confiscating the car, but when they
Speaker 2: confiscate the cars, they crush them. I strongly support legislation.
Speaker 2: So that's what Mayor Greenberg has said that they are.
Speaker 2: He supports not only confiscating your car after they but
Speaker 2: destroying it and crushing it.
Speaker 3: That seems to.
Speaker 2: Me, like, uh, you know, maybe you could like auction
Speaker 2: the cars and that money could go towards the community, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I also love the thought of
Speaker 2: really punishing somebody by saying nope, Like like, over the
Speaker 2: past several days, they've seed they've they've seized twenty cars
Speaker 2: that were involved in these takeovers. Street takeovers that block
Speaker 2: traffic can put people in danger, and I just love
Speaker 2: the thought of one. And by the way, one of
Speaker 2: the at least one of the arrests that I read
Speaker 2: about in WDRB was somebody that just got their car
Speaker 2: back for doing this in February, Like, come on, like,
Speaker 2: what do you do it? So I just love the
Speaker 2: idea of like, clearly, you like your your world seems
Speaker 2: to revolve around this. Maybe that's an exaggeration, but like
Speaker 2: if you're that dumb, then like you really only care
Speaker 2: about anything. You really don't seem to care about anything,
Speaker 2: not only staying free, not only you know, avoiding criminal charges.
Speaker 2: You seem to only care about street racing and taking
Speaker 2: and doing these takeovers. So to really hold them accountable,
Speaker 2: like here's part of it you are sentenced to I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't even know what the sentence would be.
Speaker 2: I guess it also depends if like you've done like
Speaker 2: if you've done this before and you get caught again,
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna actually serve some time for this, maybe
Speaker 2: even some serious time. I don't know how serious the
Speaker 2: charges are, but I like part of the sentencing process,
Speaker 2: part of the punishment to be we will go remove
Speaker 2: you from corrections and you will ride with us, and
Speaker 2: we are going to destroy your car and make you watch.
Speaker 3: Like I kind of love that. I like it too.
Speaker 3: Don't you like that kind of justice?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean there's no direct harm to the
Speaker 4: human being. But you have to sit there and watch
Speaker 4: what you are. You know, you value so much you destroy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think you're gonna keep getting away with this, No,
Speaker 2: you are gonna. You are currently incarcerated for putting people
Speaker 2: in danger and you know, taking over streets that you
Speaker 2: can't take over, and we're going to destroy this vehicle
Speaker 2: that you know is your prize possession. That's that's really
Speaker 2: the weapon that you had to commit these crimes. So
Speaker 2: I again, destroying them, crushing them again. If you're gonna
Speaker 2: do that, make them watch, then they'll really learn the
Speaker 2: hard way that like, you know, this is what we
Speaker 2: will do if we catch you doing again. If you're
Speaker 2: thinking about when you get out, make you know when
Speaker 2: you make parole or you have served your sins. If
Speaker 2: you're thinking about going and getting one of these kind
Speaker 2: of eagles again and uh, you know, doing the same thing,
Speaker 2: be careful because we'll do this again to you. We'll
Speaker 2: confiscate it and we'll make you, will make you watch
Speaker 2: us destroy your vehicle.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: I don't think of it ever really happened, but apparently
Speaker 2: in other states is Mayor Greenberg mentioned they are not
Speaker 2: only taking your car, They're just they're crushing them.
Speaker 3: I love that idea.
Speaker 2: What do you think I I showed up, like in
Speaker 2: my mid sized family suv to one of these like
Speaker 2: street races, like, hey, I'm here. You got anybody that
Speaker 2: wants to run? Thinking like, yeah, take over? Uh No,
Speaker 2: I want to race John. Let's race for pink slips
Speaker 2: like they do in uh in Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 2: When I think street racing, I don't think Fast and
Speaker 2: the Furious. I think of Horrible Bosses. When Jason Bateman
Speaker 2: is being interrogated by police officers who you know, are
Speaker 2: onto them about doing what they do in Horrible Bosses,
Speaker 2: which is, you know, try to kill their bosses, and
Speaker 2: he claims that you know, what were you doing out
Speaker 2: this late at this time, street racing in a prius.
Speaker 2: I do it went often just like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: Jason Bateman is hilarious. And by the way, that movie,
Speaker 2: that collection, that cast, I mean, and I can't believe
Speaker 2: that that movie came out thirteen years ago. They've already
Speaker 2: had two of them. And the second one's pretty good too.
Speaker 2: Usually a comedy, a comedy sequel like that, I feel
Speaker 2: like it usually isn't good. This one wasn't as good
Speaker 2: as the first, the original Horrible Bosses, but both were
Speaker 2: really good. But man, talk about a cast. You've got
Speaker 2: Jason Bateman, Charlie Day, Jason Sideikis, Jennifer Aniston, Colin Ferrell,
Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey, Donald Sutherland, Jamie Fox. I mean that movie
Speaker 2: star studded cast, and it was really really well done.
Speaker 2: And man, Jennifer Aniston is so hot in that movie, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: You look surprised that said that, John, I'm surprised.
Speaker 3: She's your generation. Oh god, body right. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think she's timeless. I don't.
Speaker 2: I think, if you know, everybody's got their own preferences,
Speaker 2: but like, she doesn't age. I feel like there's people
Speaker 2: you know, she's she's she's wonderful.
Speaker 3: That's what I'll say. We got to go to break.
Speaker 3: We got the five o'clock hour coming your way.
Speaker 2: In a lot more to get into, including Pat Kelsey's
Speaker 2: comments on Mark Pope looking forward to letting you guys
Speaker 2: listen to that if you haven't heard it just yet.
Speaker 2: Also Deon Sanders doing Deon Sanders things again. We'll get
Speaker 2: back into the Wojes news as he has decided to
Speaker 2: retire to take a job that might surprise.
Speaker 3: A lot of people.
Speaker 2: And how about this, Nolan Smith has found a gig
Speaker 2: and there's some speculation as to maybe he did some
Speaker 2: things to make that job be available, allegedly allegedly. All right,
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