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your support. I will start with the question that I
asked at the end of the last hour. Is Trump
now suddenly a neocon? Is he being duped or deceived
or conned by the neocons the neoconservatives? Is that what's
going on here? Or is he making good on a
goal that he has expressed for over a decade that
Iran should not have nuclear weapons, cannot have nuclear weapons?
So who is the leader of MAGA? Is it Trump?
I would say yes, it's Trump, But apparently there are
a lot of other people that think they are the
leaders of MAGA now Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, I'm
not really sure, like how they think they became the
leaders of MAGA, but like the stuff that they're saying
now about Trump and he's leading us into a forever war,
which again I've not seen any evidence of that. I
went over this the other day. David Hersani wrote the piece.
You know, this conflict between Israel and Iran is not
the Iraq War. It's not the same. You can't, you know,
you can't keep looking at every single war that we
just fought and say that's what the next war is
going to look like. It's not. I mean, look at
what's happening in Ukraine, like that war shifted. Now it's
primarily drones. I mean they're using both sides or using drones.
Speaker 2: Like the.
Speaker 1: Tactics and the type of warfare has advanced beyond the
Iraq War. The IDF says the Israeli defense for us
to say, it's struck several weapons manufacturing facilities, including one
used to produce raw materials and components for the assembly
of surface to surface missiles, which the Iranian regime has
fired and continues to fire towards the state of Israel.
So they're blowing up the factories. I talked about this yesterday.
We know the Israelis know where these factories are. They've
been pumping out this ordinance and these delivery systems. For
quite a while, they've been arming their proxies in the region,
and Israel's had enough, and by the way, a lot
of the other countries in the region have had enough.
So they're why is Syria allowing Israel able to fly
over their country. IDF spokesperson fi Defriend said on Wednesday,
the IDF attack five Iranian combat helicopters that tried to
harm their aircraft. They have complete air control air dominance
the Israelis do. That's what like the mission of controlling
the airspace that is complete, that's done. They have complete
air superiority. Most of the projectiles fired from Iran towards
northern and central Israel overnight were intercepted. No injuries or
fatalities were reported. In addition, Iran launched over ten drones
at the Galilee and the Golan on Wednesday morning, all
of which the IDF intercepted. The Wall Street Journal reports, however,
that Israel is running low on their arrow interceptors, which
are used to shoot down long range ballistic missiles from Iran.
Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatola Ali Kamenie wrote on Twitter, formerly
known as that Iran, quote must give a strong response
to the terrorist Zionist regime. We will show the Zionists
no mercy, and then he evoked Kaibar, the site of
a massacre of Jews by Muslims in the seventh century,
along with an image of a man with a sword
entering a burning castle. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps claimed
that it shot fatah I hypersonic missiles at Israel, which
move faster than the speed of sound and cannot be
detected by missile defense systems. However, there's no evidence on
the ground in Israel of that actually being the case,
which might indicate that the Iranians lie about this kind
of stuff, in which case, then maybe you should bring
that knowledge to the question of whether or not the
Iranians are working on a nuclear bomb. The Israeli Foreign
Minister Gideon Saar wrote a letter updating the UN Security
Council on their operation Rising Lion against Iran, and noted
the Islamic republics public threats to eliminate the State of
Israel in stark violation of the UN Charter and its
continued attempts to achieve the means to accomplish this by
rapidly developing military nuclear capabilities as well as its ballistic
missile program. He pointed out that the International Atomic Energy
Agency censured Iran in a recent Board of Governor's decision
for its non compliance with the Non Proliferation Treaty? Did
you know about that? Iran Supreme leader rejected US calls
for surrender in the face of blistering Israeli strikes and
warned that any military involvement by the Americans would cause
irreparable damage to them. This is from the Washington Times,
and apparently Donald Trump responded to the IATOLA companee's defiance
by saying, quote, good luck. The remarks from the IATOLA
has only who has only been seen once since the
strikes began came after Trump demanded unconditional surrender in a
social media post and warned company that the US knows
where he is, but it has no plans to kill him,
at least not for now. Trump initially distanced himself from
israel surprise attack on Friday, but in recent days has
hinted at greater American involvement, saying he wants something much
bigger than a ceasefire. Right. He wants the nuclear program dismantled.
That would be bigger than a ceasefire. That's what he
has been arguing for and demanding for over a decade.
And Iran, like, you don't have to think in terms
on this with Donald Trump. You don't have to think
in terms of do I take him literally, not seriously whatever, No,
it's all the same. He has been consistently clear, which
I am as shocked as you are that I am
saying these very words about Donald Trump. But he has
been consistently clear. Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb. An
Iranian official has warned the US intervention would risk all
out war. Again, we're not really sure what that means.
Iran doesn't have any allies that it's that they are
rallying to their cause here except the Hooties. Foreign Ministry
spokesman Smo Bagi did not elaborate, but thousands of American
troops are based in nearby countries within range of Iran's weapons.
The US has threatened a massive response to any attack.
Another Iranian official said the country would keep enriching uranium
for peaceful purposes, apparently ruling out Trump's demands that Iran
give up its disputed nuclear program. So they're not going
to stop, even under the barrage of the Israeli air
strikes and the targeted assassinations of their entire military leadership,
and like every nuclear scientist in every zip code, Like
whether do they use zip codes over there, I don't know.
But despite all of that, they're like, we're still going
to enrich for peaceful purposes. Guys, you already hit the
three percent enrichment level. You don't need ninety percent enrichment
unless you're trying to build the bomb. The Israeli military
says it's also carried out strikes in western Iran, hitting
missile storage sites and a loaded missile launcher. This is
one of the issues for the Iranians is that every
time they launch missiles, now Israel knows where they're launching from,
and then they blow up those sites. Iran has fired
some four hundred missiles and hundreds of drones in retaliatory
strikes that have killed at least twenty four people in
Israel and wounded hundreds more. Iran has fired fewer missiles
as the conflict has worn on, though it has not
explained the decline, But then again, there isn't really anybody
to speak on behalf of the military at this point,
so Israel's targeted launchers and other infrastructure related to the missiles.
Iran has insisted its nuclear program was peaceful, though it
is the only the only nuclear armed, sorry, the only
non nuclear armed state to enrich uranium up to sixty percent,
and that is a short technical step away from the
weapons grade levels of ninety percent. US intelligence agencies have
said they did not believe Iran was actively pursuing the bomb,
which I would submit is patently absurd. And for all
the magaworld people who recognize the bureaucratic state, the deep state, right,
these people, this fifth column inside the government that hates Trump.
Is it any wonder why the intelligence community that was
weaponized against Trump before? Do you do you have any
doubts that maybe they may be saying this in order
to hamstring Trump. I don't trust it. I don't trust
it because again, to me, the smoking gun is the
fact that you've enriched to sixty percent, and you've built
far dough, you know, ninety meters deep in a mountain,
and you're spinning centrifuges like crazy in order to get
up to the ninety percent level. Oh and the IAEA
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are all in a frenzy over this because Trump is
doing what he has said he would do. He's backing
Israel as they attempt to achieve a goal that he
has expressed for over a decade, which is that Iran
cannot be allowed to have a nuke. So here's one
such example by John Daniel Davidson at the Federalist dot com.
Remember all the infamous one liners from the Global War
on Terror or the GWOT, or as I call it,
the GUAT in the years after nine to eleven, when
the Neocon establishment in Washington was pushing ahead with its
disastrous wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They were everywhere, it's
a slam dunk case. We have to fight them over there,
so we don't have to fight them over here. We'll
be greeted as liberators. Islam is a religion of peace.
Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists. God
has planted in the heart, in every heart, the desire
to live in freedom. You'd think that after Iraq and
Afghanistan this kind of rhetoric would be totally discredited, but
you'd be wrong. Over the past few days. Almost since
the moment Israel began bombing Iran, we've seen the reappearance
of almost all the old GWAT rhetoric then as now.
The purpose is to justify a US military adventure abroad
and gaslight the American people into supporting regime change in Iran.
That's not what Trump is doing. Maybe he does, maybe
he does, but that's not what he has been doing.
All he's been doing right now is telling Iran, we
offered you a deal, we gave you sixty days to negotiate,
you should have taken the deal, and we stand with Israel.
So far, that's been about it. For those keeping track.
We have been hearing about Iran's impending nuclear weapon for
at least twenty years. Tehran, we're told, is always just
months or weeks away from having deployable nukes. Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Nintanyawho warned that Iran was getting extremely close
to a nuclear weapon in nineteen ninety six, and that
is true. That's absolutely true. Yah who's been warning about
this for decades, and he's been correct. See, Israel has
been carrying out covert campaigns for decades to cripple Iran's
nuclear ambitions. In twenty ten, for example, a nuclear physicist
Masud Ali Mohammadi, stepped out of his Tehran home, a
parked motorcycle exploded via remote detonation, killing him instantly. Masad
did that. Majid Shahari Rari rere something same year, Masad
agents on motorcycles attached to a magnet bomb to Majid
Sharai Arari's car door in Tehran. It detonated seconds later,
killing him. The head of the uranium Enrichment Division, Abbasi Devani,
narrowly survived a similar attack same year twenty ten. Over
the course of like two years, remember Operation Olympic Games, Israel,
along with US cooperation, deployed the stuxnet virus into the
Natan's nuclear facility. Over one thousand centrifuges were destroyed when
they began spinning out of control and it was set back.
Their enrichment program was set back years. Supply chain sabotage
this has been going on for decades, Okay. Massad agents
systematically sabotage Iran's nuclear supply chains in Europe, Asia and
the Middle East, covertly insulting, inserting faulty components into critical
nuclear equipment. Machines break unpredictably that delays progress. They assassinated
Imad Mugininia something in two thousand and eight. He was
Hesbala's military commander. A Kei Iranian ally carbomb in Damascus.
Hassan Tehrani. Muggadam Iran's father of missiles, they called him.
He was a general massive explosion at a missile base
near Tehran, an operation widely attributed to Massad, and it
destroyed vital Iranian missile infrastructure. Way back in nineteen fifty six,
Mustafa Hafez he was the intel chief of Egypt. He
was assassinated in Gaza by an Israeli made explosive hidden
inside a hollowed out book. Twenty twelve, Mustafa Amadi Rashan,
deputy director of the Natan's nuclear facility, killed by another
magnet bomb attached to his car. Twenty eighteen, Iran's nuclear
archive heist. In a daring mission, Massade stole over fifty
five thousand pages of Iran's secret nuclear archives from a
heavily guarded Tehran warehouse, exposing the regime's nuclear ambitions and
humiliating Iran's security apparatus on the world stage. It's only
for peaceful purposes, you see. That's why we have fifty
five thousand pages of how to build the bomb, right.
Israel has been doing this for decades, and so they
keep warning, hey, guys, Iran is trying to make a bomb.
They're getting close to being able to do it. The
world does nothing, and so then Masag goes in and
takes out some people, sabotages some stuff, and delays the
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Let's get to the phones here and get done on. Hello, Don,
Welcome to the shoe.
Speaker 3: Hey Pete, appreciate you, and you're on a commentary real quick?
And I might be mistaken. Didn't we send four hundred
and thirty million in cash money to Iran to squelch
their nuclear program? Or am I mistaken?
Speaker 1: I think we've sent them. I think we sent them more.
We gave them a payout and then we unfroze their
assets and delivered them to them. That was part of
the Obama agreement. Yeah, it was over like a billion.
Speaker 3: I wonder how much money. How much of that Obama
got back. I don't trust any of them up there anymore.
Speaker 1: Almost well, I think I think they probably just plowed
that money into their nuclear program.
Speaker 3: That's what I would suspect. Yeah, real simple. I appreciate
your response. You kind of saw my riddle for me,
and I'll I'll continue to listen.
Speaker 1: Hi, you two, don I appreciate the call. Good to
hear from you. Let me go over and chat with Richard. Hello, Richard,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, good, Yeah, this.
Speaker 4: Is the same I ran that killed our guys in Iraq.
Did a number one state sponsor of terror? They fun
hamas Hezbolah. The jutis uh, they're gonna get a nuclear bomb.
It's like, should we take all his law in nineteen
thirty eight before he starts, what is the debate? We're
the only ones that could drop that bomb to get
underneath the ground to put this to bed.
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, so if you're asking what the
debate is about it. Well, Number one, you've got you know, Democrats,
and when while they used to be anti Iran getting
the nuke, now that Donald Trump is doing it, and
layer into that the rise of anti Semitism in their ranks,
So Israel is bad. So I think you've got those
two things that are animating the Democrats side of the aisle,
except for John Fetterman. John Fetterman's like take them out right.
He's the only one that I have seen that's been like, yes,
let us take the take the chains off Israel. Let
him do whatever they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: What brings us, what brings us to another problem is
that we are so sick in this in our own
country that we can even agree upon We can't agree
with throwing people out who are criminals, and we can't
even agree about this threat that is nuclear and we
have this is probably the best opportunity I don't know
that we've had in twenty five years to get rid
of the Ayatola and take care of their nuclear threat
and end this once and for all.
Speaker 1: So well, I don't know if we end it once
and for all, because you never know what comes after
right if if the if the regime collapses. We don't
know what comes next, but I would be opposed to
us trying to force anything on them. If whatever happens
is happens, that's like, that's on Iran and you know,
keep it like, I don't care if the call. I
would prefer the Komeni and the regime collapse, absolutely because
they're awful people and their regime is tyrannical and murderous.
So yes, I would prefer that they be gone. But
that's not on that, that's not on me to force
some other form of government into Iran, right all.
Speaker 4: I don't want boots on the ground, right, a thing
like that. No, I want the Iranian people to have
the opportunity to overthrow these cycles. But I think we
can soften it up a little bit where the right
Iranian people can take care of business or even Israel.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, yeah, maybe. So the Persians have a long
history and they were very technologically advanced and cultured people
before the revolution in seventy nine, So yeah, that may
that may happen. Remember, during Obama's term, the people rose
up against the Ayatola and the regime, and Obama just
let them twist in the wind, gave them no support
and they got crushed. So now maybe there's a better
opportunity for those people to rise up again, and maybe
they're successful. But again, that's to me a second thing.
It's not even the primary objective. The primary objective is
to destroy their nuclear capabilities so they don't threaten US
or Israel or any other country for that matter. That's
the key.
Speaker 4: The icing on the cake is that these guys get
taken out and they stop their terrorist campaign against US
in Israel. That would be the icing on the cake.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, we shall say, Richard, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Let me read some tweets here. I've got their peak tweets.
As I say, Eric says, there's a lot of people
allegedly on the right who seem very upset that Donald
Trump is not intervening to stop Israel from raising Iran's
nuclear facilities and deleting their terrorist leaders from this timeline. Yeah,
that's the thing, Like Trump isn't even really doing anything
except letting Israel do what it is doing. But there's
this that somehow or another, we need to restrain Israel.
We have to keep going and saying Oh, Israel don't
do this. Oh we're afraid of wider conflict. Oh, we're
afraid of this, afraid of that. And I don't know.
I mean, I kind of feel like at this point
Israel seems to be pretty capable of taking out a
whole bunch of threats, right so, and that's in their
national interest. They make that determination. There is real first,
we're America first, and right now the goals are aligned.
I have no problem with it. Karen says, I don't
understand why people can't believe. Oh wait, I already read
that one. Sorry, this is from ec who says, I
think the Arab trip sealed the deal. They are all
done with it. In other words, the Trump administration A
seven forty six was donated to stop it. This was
from the Qataris, which I haven't even gotten into, like
cutter and like their influence operation and stuff like those
guys are bad news and people keep taking money from
them and they're yeah, I'm I don't understand it. I
don't understand why people on the right especially have this
blind spot for the Katari's and their influence operations, but
they try to donate the plane. Right, people need to
think a little harder. This is the opportunity to stop
them for good. Look I heard the clip also in
the bottom of the hour newscast, Lindsey Graham is like,
you know, rare in to go And I am not
in the Lindsey Graham camp. Okay. I don't like the
fact that Lindsey Graham has never seen a war. He
doesn't want to send other people to die in. I
don't like that. Okay, I'm not on board with that.
Whatever he's advocating for, escalation, more involvement, whatever I oppose.
All I'm saying is let Israel do it what it's doing.
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There are reports that in Iranian delegation for negotiations quote
may have just landed in Oman. That's according to Reuters.
Separate reports indicate that at least three Iranian government planes
have left Iran and landed in Muskrat That's sorry, Moscot, Muscat,
Muscat and oh Man. Three jets. Three government jets out
of Iran into Oman for negotiations, three planeloads of negotiators.
Ed Morrissey at hot air dot Com says that's not
a negotiating team. Those are bugouts, which I don't know either.
I'm just I'm giving you a couple of potential ideas
and different theories. We shall see. Margaret. Welcome to the program.
Hello Margaret, I hello, Hi.
Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: I can?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. I called because I saw an article from
one of the descendants of the Old Shaw of the
Iran and he's willing to go back in as ruler,
and he asks his people to be ready to move.
Speaker 1: Yes. Now, the problem with this guy is that he
hasn't been in the country for like forty something years.
He like, and that's the monarchy. It's a return to
a monarchy or whatever. So and we mentioned this a
little bit yesterday. But like, if that's what the Iranian
people want, if they're going to rally around this guy
and bring him back and restore the monarchy or whatever,
if that's what they want to do, more power to him.
Like I don't, it doesn't matter to me. What do
you think?
Speaker 2: Well, given what the Shaw himself did, because I was
around at the time when he was kicked out, I'm
that old. He was a good ruler. The women had freedom,
they were educated, they could dress western if they wanted to,
the country was not a bad country, but apparently the
CIA thought it was because they're the ones that costed
them out.
Speaker 1: Well that I'd read something about that, like that's the
what was the guy's name, uh Mozadique. I think he
had turned like they had told him to leave and
he refused, and that's what and that's what led to
the collapse and that's what the CIA helped with or something.
I remember seeing a report about that the other day,
and I did not read it through because again, like
that's you know, that's seventy years ago, sixty years ago,
whatever it was. And uh yeah, like I and I
don't support us deposing people like that. It's not like
it's not that's it's not my country, right, And if
the people want this guy to come back in and
to try to be a unifying figure, I think a
caller yesterday suggested that he could come in and then
be just a transitional figure and then you know, do
something else afterwards or not whatever. Like I'm I'm not
like I think we should all be, you know, of
the mind here that we are not. We are not
very good at at setting up you know, society, altering
government forms of government for these Middle Eastern countries. Let
them decide for themselves.
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think it'd be better if
we stayed out of all of that stuff. But from
what we can see now, that was a really big
mistake to get rid of the Shaws or yeah, way
back when says look what we got?
Speaker 1: Well and uh yeah, and I remember reading a story
years ago about Carter the opportunity to stop the plane
with the Ayahtola that was headed for Iran, and and
he didn't, And this is what we got, you know.
So look, I mean, people make mistakes in foreign policy
and these types of geopolitical events all the time, right,
and we shall see, So, Margaret, I appreciate the call.
Thank you, all right, take care. One last piece here
from this Federalist write up by John Daniel Davidson, and
he said, after Israel quote internationalizes the problem of a
decapitated Iran, American troops will be the ones expected to
impose order and rebuild the country. And everyone knows it.
And I actually don't know that. I don't know that
to be true. That's just speculation on his part. Now
that being said, it's good to have these voices and
to have this debate. I'm not trying to shut down.
He talks about all the neo cons accuse us of
being unpatriotic or paid off by a foreign government. I
don't accuse anybody of doing that. I'm not accusing anybody
of not being a patriot or whatever. We just had
different ideas and different opinions about the matter. So it
is important to have the debate now, and it's important
for people to express opinions and to warn what they
fear could happen, because it sends a message about what
the public will support and won't support. And the American
public is not going to support boots on the ground
in Iran. And here's the thing, I believe Trump knows that.
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