1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: Just like the Cougar football team, Ben Krittle was built, 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,480 it's not born, and since two thousand and nineties built 3 00:00:08,519 --> 00:00:11,000 himself into the go to source on the radio and 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,160 online for all things Cougars. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,279 Speaker 2: This is Cougar Sports. 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,839 Speaker 3: With Ben Crittle on one oh three nine at ninety eight. 7 00:00:17,879 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 4: Three DESPN The Band. Welcome back Cougar Sports. One of 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,440 three nine ninety point three ESPN The Fan. I've been 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,760 Frital broadcasting from our Vanderwelth Studios, Vanderwealth dot Com. Get 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,280 on a free Q and A no obligation to invest 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,039 Q and A with our tax smart Wealth Advisors, Certified 12 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:35,840 financial Planners. Nobody does it better than Band or Wealth. 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,439 It is time for a little college basketball segment prepping 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,240 you getting you ready for a BYU Wisconsin matchup here 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,560 on your Utah ESPN Radio Network. BYU, sitting at number 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,600 nine in the nation, returns to the Beehive State on 17 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:56,560 Friday to take on the Wisconsin Badgers really good basketball team, 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,679 number twenty three in the nation in a rematch of 19 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:01,439 last season's round to thirty two matchup. 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Give him a call, 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,200 shoo him a text eight oh one three eight zero 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,599 eight zero eight seven for a quote that's eight o 33 00:01:40,719 --> 00:01:43,959 one three eight zero eight zero eighty seven mentioned myself 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,079 or esp of the fan to get that discount. All right, 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,319 let's get out to the hotline and welcome in former 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,359 basketball player and analyst for the Big Ten Network now 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,280 in Fox Sports. 38 00:01:54,359 --> 00:01:56,599 Speaker 2: We got Brian Butch on the line. Brian, how are you? 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,879 Speaker 3: I'm doing good? How are you guys doing? Hey? 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:00,719 Speaker 2: Living the dream? 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: Love talking ball of you know the the rematch here 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,000 b Yu gets a little vengeance game hopefully right They 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,400 get a neutral court that's a little bit nearer to 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,759 their home. It'll be not necessarily a home game, but 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,840 it'll be essentially a home game. Uh, what do you 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,560 remember about last year's game in this in this matchup? 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, this is one is going to 48 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:27,840 be a home game. Don't tell me that's not gonna be. 49 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:31,199 It's one percent a home game. As much as you're 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,879 advertising it that it's not going to be a home game. 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,319 Speaker 3: It was a home game. 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 5: And what I remember from Denver is that was a 53 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:40,919 home game as well, for by you, even though that 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,400 was the NC. 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: All right, all right, you're right, all right, I'm sorry, 56 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,479 you are right. This is a home game. 57 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: And the Denver game was pretty much three fours BYU fans. 58 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 5: It was, it was, But no, it was a great 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,560 college basketball game, is what I remember. 60 00:02:56,319 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: D Yu. 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,719 Speaker 5: We knew how good they were last year, obviously a 62 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:02,560 lot of you know, great things that they're doing. 63 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: But this year they're just as good and if not better. 64 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: And I think you know what they've built, how they've 65 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:08,560 gone about it. 66 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: They're a physical team. 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 5: They readbound the ball well, they shoot it from three, 68 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,120 They play with great pace. You know, Kevin does a 69 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,960 great job of running that program. I actually know their 70 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,199 assistant coaches, Will Void. When I played in the G League, 71 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,280 he was my coach, and then Jordan Brady was I 72 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,080 was an assistant under Jordan Brady when he was the 73 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,680 head coach of the Wisconsin Hurt, So I know kind 74 00:03:29,719 --> 00:03:32,280 of what Byu is doing. I know their assistance. They're 75 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:35,039 great guys. They understand the game really well. 76 00:03:35,719 --> 00:03:37,879 Speaker 3: This season, you guys are gonna have success. 77 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 5: Obviously there's a lot of talent on that squad, but 78 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,400 I think at some point you gonna have the coaching 79 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:44,960 to be able to get you. 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,719 Speaker 3: Through when what is a long college basketball season. 81 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,039 Speaker 5: So I love, like I said, the way that you 82 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:53,280 guys are built, how you're gonna guard, how you're gonna 83 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,360 play offensively. You know, when you look at your efficiency 84 00:03:56,439 --> 00:03:58,960 so far, your top five in the nation as far 85 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,400 as ball movement, what you can do, how you can score. 86 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:04,479 So now it just kind of becomes what what is 87 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:07,919 gonna happen tomorrow night? And I think this Wisconsin team 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,759 they're really good as well. They've got a couple of 89 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,159 great transfers and Nick Boyd. They also bring back John Blackwell, 90 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,040 Nolan Winter and those guys have kind of, you know, 91 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:20,079 done a good job. The question I had with Wisconsin 92 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,519 for you guys, this is really their first big test. 93 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,720 They've played four mid majors, they've won big and all 94 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:29,399 of them. Now they need to be tested. This is 95 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:31,439 their first test. Then they head out to San Diego. 96 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:34,360 Wisconsin's on an eleven day road trip with this game. 97 00:04:34,759 --> 00:04:37,160 So they're gonna play the YU, Then they're gonna go 98 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,399 out San Diego play Providence, and then they'll play. 99 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: The winner of TCU and Florida. 100 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 5: So they are gonna have a three game stretch here 101 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,560 that they're gonna find out about themselves and then we'll 102 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:49,199 you know, be able to really see what kind of 103 00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:51,639 team this wiscons team is. But the first one is 104 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,800 against b YU, and it's a it's a tough test 105 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:54,319 for sure. 106 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: What's changed personnel wise from last year's roster with the 107 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:00,360 Wisconsin Badgers to the year. 108 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, the biggest thing is the loss of john Tonjay, 109 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:06,959 who's actually playing drafted by the Utah Jazz playing for 110 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,839 the Salt Lake City Stars G League team right now. 111 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:13,160 That's the biggest change they bring, you know, get rid 112 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:15,879 of john Tonjay. They had a lot of seniors as well, 113 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,800 guys that were blue guys. They bring in a player 114 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,199 like Andrew Roady from Virginia who kind of helps fit 115 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:24,079 that glue mold guy that's not gonna get talked about 116 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,040 nearly enough, but I think he is the key to 117 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:29,639 Wisconsin because he keeps everybody together. But then, you know, 118 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,920 they bring in Nick Boyd from San Diego State played 119 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,720 in a Final four with Fyu and Dusty Maye, so 120 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,319 he's got the experience of big time games. That's kind 121 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,360 of the biggest, you know, change that they've had. They 122 00:05:40,399 --> 00:05:45,079 bring back John Blackwell. They retain John Blackwell, They retained 123 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,800 Nolan Winner. That's important in college basketball. Not enough people 124 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,199 talk about the retention point of it. Wisconsin did a 125 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,759 good job of making sure they kept their players and 126 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,040 then they added a couple of pieces around to really 127 00:05:57,439 --> 00:05:59,560 kind of hopefully increase the pace. When a lot of 128 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,959 people think of Wisconsin basketball right now and they think 129 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,839 of slow basketball, they think of back when I played. 130 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:09,480 This team is completely different. They've been out different for 131 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:11,920 about three four years. They want to get out, they 132 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,480 want to run, they want to push the ball, they 133 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,720 want to score and transition. 134 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:17,519 Speaker 3: They want to shoot a lot of threes. They want 135 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,560 to get to the paint. 136 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: A lot of college teams have had kind of the 137 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:24,399 analytic approach. Wisconsin was ahead of that curve a little 138 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:26,800 bit as far as what they were trying to do. Now, 139 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,079 they just try to break the stigma of hey, we're slow. 140 00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:31,959 Slow team grinds you out. That's not what this team 141 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,800 wants to do. They want to get out, they want 142 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,920 to run. There's one thing that's been a consistent and 143 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:37,639 that is they're going. 144 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: To take care of the basketball. They're not going to 145 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,000 turn the ball over. 146 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,199 Speaker 5: That's what I'm very curious to see about Friday night 147 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:45,920 or Friday afternoon. How do they take care of the 148 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,560 basketball against a bigger, more physical team. They've done a 149 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,600 really good job of that this year's team. They're also 150 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:56,160 turning over teams at about seventeen turnovers a game, So 151 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,120 what do they do there? How are they able to 152 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,160 turn over you know, BYU? Again, this is their first 153 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,279 major test against a high major team, so are they 154 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,360 able to turn over BYU? Those are kind of the 155 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,720 two main things that I'm gonna watch as this game unfolds. 156 00:07:11,839 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: What's your scattering report on the bau Cougars from a 157 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:16,920 personnel standpoint, have you been able to check tape on 158 00:07:16,959 --> 00:07:19,199 these guys, talk to the coaching staff, what are they 159 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:23,040 seeing on tape? They will be without kipa Cata, They're 160 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,600 gonna probably be without Kennard Davis Junior. They are their 161 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:32,160 short staffed if you will, from a personnel standpoint, and uh, 162 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:33,800 you know arguably two of. 163 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: Their two starters are out for b YU. 164 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's the question now is how 165 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,199 do you piece it together? If you're BYU and I 166 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:46,000 think if you're Wisconsin, you probably wanted keet it back 167 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,240 just because it helps the big rotation of what you 168 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:51,680 can do. But I mean this team is is a 169 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,040 team that you know attacks the offensive lass they get 170 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,399 out and transition their defense. Their interior defense is really good. 171 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,319 So now that becomes with with you know, the difference 172 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:03,680 in the interior. 173 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: What is next? 174 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:07,079 Speaker 5: And I think that's the biggest thing that I look 175 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,680 at with this BYU team. Now you look at what 176 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:11,560 you know Rob Wright can do and how he can 177 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,519 handle the game, what he you know as far as 178 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,720 just being a for general, he's fantastic. 179 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,319 Speaker 3: You need to be able to control what he does. 180 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:21,160 You look at Davanta We all know how good he is. 181 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,319 We all know what he can do. 182 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 5: We saw him turn that switch, you know, against Yukon 183 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,680 in the game in Boston. Now, how does Wisconsin handle him? 184 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,399 How does Wisconsin get out? I think the other thing 185 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,840 is too part of the Scott report wise, whether it's 186 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:39,159 Richie Sunis whoever, its limit the initial wave. 187 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,039 Speaker 3: I think Yukon got. 188 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: Out to that early league which gave them enough breathing room. 189 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: B Y, he is gonna want to try and do 190 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,039 the same thing against this Wiscon's team. So if you're Wisconsin, 191 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:50,120 you try to handle that wave. 192 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,279 Speaker 5: But I think overall, you know, with the injuries, with 193 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,879 the people that are out, you've got to really limit 194 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,559 Robert Wright. I think you know, everybody knows aj what 195 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:01,879 he's going to do, how he's gonna tench That's the 196 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,159 obvious thing to me. 197 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,879 Speaker 3: The key is how do you handle right? What do 198 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:06,240 you do? 199 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,159 Speaker 5: How do you handle them picking and rolls? How do 200 00:09:08,159 --> 00:09:11,039 you handle the assists rate? How do you make sure 201 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:12,879 that she doesn't get to the free throw line? 202 00:09:12,919 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: A lot? He's iveraging, you know, four files, drawing a 203 00:09:15,919 --> 00:09:18,759 game like those are the little things that I think 204 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:20,639 he impacts this game so much. 205 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,639 Speaker 6: With That's what I was gonna ask Brian who's gonna 206 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,320 be tasked with guarding Rob right? Obviously Richie Saunders last 207 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,799 year had twenty five points in nine to sixteen shooting. 208 00:09:27,919 --> 00:09:31,120 The WYU has other pieces now, an actual primary ball 209 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,399 handler that doesn't have to go through Richie. Who's gonna 210 00:09:33,399 --> 00:09:34,679 be tas a small rob right now. 211 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, So this is this is the interesting thing about 212 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:41,840 Wisconsin is there they're averaging seventeen turnovers a game, but 213 00:09:42,159 --> 00:09:45,159 John black will guard it. Everybody's best player last year 214 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,720 because he had to. Now you can remove John Blackwell 215 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:49,919 off of that a little bit, and I think, you 216 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,559 look at you know, Rob Right, it's gonna be. 217 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,759 Speaker 3: Nick Boyd in my opinion. Obviously, they've got practice to. 218 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,879 Speaker 5: Day and I'll sit on that so I'll have a 219 00:09:56,879 --> 00:09:58,360 better clue after their practice. 220 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: They don't practice later on today out here in Salt 221 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:01,240 Lake City. 222 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,919 Speaker 5: But one of those things that coach guard has enough 223 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,039 versatility to be able to put different guys on, you know, 224 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,960 Robert Wright and and kind of change the tempo. 225 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: And I think that's the biggest thing. 226 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 5: So I look at that initially and say, hey, I 227 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:18,600 think it's probably gonna be Nick Boyd as far as 228 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:19,879 how he handles that. 229 00:10:20,759 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: Nick does a. 230 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 5: Really good job of getting into players, forcing that contact, 231 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:28,279 and I think that's gonna be a real big, a 232 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:31,320 real big key to this game. The obviously we know 233 00:10:31,639 --> 00:10:34,399 Saunders agent like they're they're huge in what they're doing. 234 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:35,799 Speaker 3: They're key, And. 235 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:37,799 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to overlook what they're doing at all 236 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:40,600 because those those are the first ones. I think that's 237 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:43,279 what you've got to control. But when I kind of 238 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:45,960 pull back, you know the layers there and look into it. 239 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:50,240 We know that how fast they want to play, and 240 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:54,440 I think that first initial wave is you gotta handle it. 241 00:10:54,519 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: You can't. 242 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 5: You can't give up easy baskets. If you're Wisconsin. They 243 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:00,360 want to get ahead. They do a great I've been 244 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:03,320 doing that with the pass as well. Boom catch, rebound, 245 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,440 one pass up the sideline. Now all of a sudden, 246 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 they're off. They're running in transition with their quick hits. 247 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: That's a tough thing to do. 248 00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 6: Look, Nick Boyd has been as good as advertised. Right 249 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:14,960 you look at the tape. I'm an in San Diego State, 250 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:17,000 everything was console. It's one of he's given that so far. 251 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,440 In my opinion. But I mean John Blackwell, I mean 252 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,919 he was fantastic in the last meeting that they had. 253 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,279 What is his mindset going into this game? Obviously he's 254 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:28,200 the leader of the team. He's averaging nineteen and a half, 255 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,879 just around the twenty mark. But he rebounds at a 256 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,000 very high level, bigger guard, very physical, as he already mentioned. 257 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,720 Does he need to take over this game necessarily? You know, tomorrow, 258 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,080 you know, I'll say this about John. 259 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 5: I think John is one of the most unselfish superstars 260 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,960 that you'll see in the game of college basketball. 261 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,759 Speaker 3: And that's not because I call Wisconsin games on the radio. 262 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:51,039 Speaker 5: Like I worked for the Big Ten Network, I see 263 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,200 a lot of different games I cover them on TV. 264 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,519 So this for me is one of those things that 265 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,279 when I say I think he's the most unselfish superstars 266 00:11:58,279 --> 00:12:01,879 in this league, people don't know about John Blackwell well enough. Yeah, 267 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,240 I think this stage will give him an opportunity on 268 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:07,639 an opportunity to kind of showcase himself. 269 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,159 Speaker 3: So I look for him to be ultra aggressive. You know, 270 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,000 through the first. 271 00:12:10,759 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 5: Four games all been men major games, But when it's 272 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,200 gotten tight, or when there's been a stretch where there's 273 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,080 been about a three minute stretch. Wisconsin offense has it clicked. 274 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Who's been a guy to take the game over? It's 275 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:23,879 been John Blackwell, and he does in a variety of 276 00:12:23,879 --> 00:12:26,240 away the way he shoots the ball from three, the 277 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:29,799 way he rejects, screens, rips and goes gets a free 278 00:12:29,799 --> 00:12:33,440 throw line, He gets others involved. He's a huge offensive 279 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,960 rebounding guard, which to me, I think is just it's 280 00:12:36,039 --> 00:12:40,200 an undervalued skill set for guards. If you've got a guard, 281 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,799 they can go get an extra possession. If you get 282 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,679 a guard, they can go get a rebound. Give you 283 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,039 two points there. Most guards on the defensive end aren't 284 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,320 going to block out other guards. It's just not in 285 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,639 their DNA. You just don't see that a lot. John 286 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,360 takes advantage of anytime that a guard is sleeping. Boom, 287 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,240 John Blackwell's gonna go to the front of him and 288 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,679 go get an offense about giving an extra possess. So 289 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,000 you add that on top of all the other things 290 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,360 that he does so well, he's a really tough guard. 291 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: I think byu is gonna have their hands full with them. 292 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: I know they've got yards that are gonna guard, whether 293 00:13:10,519 --> 00:13:13,759 it's Saunders, whether it's aj like you look at how 294 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:16,639 they handle him, and they better not fall asleep because 295 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:18,840 if they fall asleep, John blackll was gonna make them pay. 296 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,159 Speaker 4: Bridy will be the fourth all time meeting between the 297 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:24,679 two schools. Is the Cougars are one and two now 298 00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:28,480 against the Badgers, the only win coming in that NCAA tournament, 299 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:30,360 and it was only a two point win. It's not 300 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:32,120 like it was like this overly convincing. 301 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: It was a great college basketball Here was nc tournament, 302 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:37,720 but it was a great college basketball game. I mean, 303 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,120 it comes down, Wisconsin's got the ball coming down with 304 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,399 a chance to tie it. You know, john tonjas in 305 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,360 the right corner, little faith Away doesn't go BYU cleans 306 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,799 out like it was a great college basketball I always 307 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:50,360 say this guy, college basketball always delivers. 308 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: You just got to pay attention to it. 309 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:54,639 Speaker 5: I know that it's you know, we're sitting here, it's 310 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,159 November twentieth. I get it, NFL college football people want. 311 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: I understand. 312 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 5: But if you're not paying the test to college basketball 313 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,320 right now, you're missing out on great college basketball. I mean, 314 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,679 you had an awesome game between Illinois and Era, Illinois 315 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,639 and Alabama. 316 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: You had Yukon Arizona. Like all those games delivered. This 317 00:14:14,799 --> 00:14:18,480 game Friday night, sir, it's Friday afternoon. Now circle it. 318 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,639 Speaker 5: It's gonna be another one of those games that delivers 319 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:22,600 and puts college basketball out there. 320 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: Do you think Tanjay wished she he would have took 321 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,039 a different shot rather than from the short corner. 322 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: I felt like he was he was open. 323 00:14:29,039 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: I thought, like when he was like coming up the court, 324 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:35,080 like I remember, like that final possession, I thought he 325 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,919 was gonna pull from like like you know, twenty plus 326 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,600 or whatever wherever he was on the floor, and then 327 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:43,000 he ended up kind of dribbled dry penetration to the 328 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,159 short corner. And you know, pump faked a few times 329 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,679 before falling away from the short corner. Do you think 330 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,320 he wants that one back? And where do you where 331 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,000 is she? Where did you want him to take the 332 00:14:51,039 --> 00:14:51,639 shot from? 333 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, and it's the same thing I 334 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 sold Greg coach guard afterwards. I see, it's your best player. 335 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,519 You got the ball in his hand. You let him 336 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:00,000 make a decision. 337 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:03,399 Speaker 5: He got you this far, so I would I'm not 338 00:15:03,399 --> 00:15:06,879 gonna second guess, dude, Maybe you know, does you know 339 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,399 John wish you would have done something. 340 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,159 Speaker 3: Differently, probably he didn't make the shots. So it's one 341 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,759 of those that you always think about as a player. 342 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:14,399 Speaker 5: You're like, man, I wish I would have done this differently, 343 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,080 or could have done this differently. 344 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: But in the moment, you go with everything that got 345 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:21,840 you in that moment. I mean, the dude was ridiculous 346 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,200 to the NCAA Tournament game there. 347 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,679 Speaker 5: So you gave him the ball, you clear out, you 348 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:29,200 let him go to work. He got Wisconsin there last year. 349 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,200 Now Wisconsin was a great team, had a lot of 350 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,559 great pieces, but he was a guy that took over 351 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:37,120 games and in that moment, and he had done it 352 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,399 numerous times, you know, prior to the NCAA Tournament. 353 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:42,799 Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta trust your guys. 354 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,879 Speaker 5: The beautiful thing about college basketball is it still is 355 00:15:45,919 --> 00:15:48,159 a players game, like you can draw it up. Coaches 356 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,639 are great, but players gotta go make plays at the 357 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,960 end of the game. And I thought Greg gave, you know, 358 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,240 believed in this guy, and I think that's a, you know, 359 00:15:55,279 --> 00:15:57,600 a testament to what this Badger program is. 360 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: It's like, hey, we're gonna set you up, We're. 361 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: Gonna put in the positions to have success, and in 362 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,960 the end, go take advantage of them, and I think 363 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:05,600 that's what they did. 364 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: It just didn't work out for him. 365 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, then it didn't matter. 366 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,399 Speaker 4: He had thirty seven point cent of eighteen, three of 367 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,799 nine from the three point fourteen of sixteen from the 368 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,960 Charney stripe as well. 369 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:14,919 Speaker 2: He had a great game. 370 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 6: Look, I mean when he had the ball, I was 371 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,480 scared the whole time. Look, I'll John. 372 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:22,559 Speaker 7: I was just like, I don't. I was like, look, 373 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:25,279 he's cooking. Look they scored thirty six in the first half. 374 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,120 He had thirty seven. He outscored what they scored. The 375 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,200 like that tells you that. So when he had the ball, 376 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,879 I was like, you know what, I just gotta wait 377 00:16:31,919 --> 00:16:32,679 till this is over. 378 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: Because he's just prayed. 379 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 6: He's just praying. All I can do is pray because 380 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,399 he's a good player and he's been giving buckets. 381 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:42,639 Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, I'm intrigued by the matchup once again. Uh, Brian, 382 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:45,559 best way to support you what you do, how you 383 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:45,919 do it? 384 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: For all of our listeners. I know you. 385 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: We can follow you at Brian Underscore, butch on the 386 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:52,879 X machine, on the Twitter machine as well. 387 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, definitely give me a follow there. That's the 388 00:16:56,759 --> 00:16:59,679 biggest thing to support, love, love all this stuff. Like 389 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,080 I said, I love your coach and Steff, we'll void 390 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,879 with my coach when I was in the G League, 391 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:05,680 so I know coach voted very well. 392 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,759 Speaker 3: And then obviously Jordan Brady I coached underneath when he 393 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:12,839 was the head coach. So it's been it's fun. I 394 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:13,559 love your group. 395 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 5: I love the way that they're approaching it. It's gonna 396 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,720 be great to catch up with those guys again. And 397 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,480 you run a lot of youth basketball camps in Wisconsin. 398 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:22,880 Just stay busy with it all, so it's fun. I 399 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,839 appreciate you guys having on me. Yes said, this game 400 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,160 is gonna deliver. So make sure you got your subscription 401 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,920 to Peacock because that's what it's on, but or you 402 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,680 can listen on the radio either side. But make sure 403 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,559 you're all signed up ready to roll for it, because 404 00:17:35,559 --> 00:17:37,960 this is gonna be a great college basketball game, and 405 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,680 this is what everybody wants. Test yourself early by you's 406 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:43,839 done that already with a great schedule. Wisconsin starting to 407 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,079 do that now with their stretch. You get to find 408 00:17:46,079 --> 00:17:48,799 out what your team's built on. Since you can make 409 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:51,960 a run in March and that's ultimately is what what 410 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:53,799 these guys and these teams are trying to test their 411 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:55,960 guys early on in the season for. So it's great, 412 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,319 great for the game, great for these programs and looking 413 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:00,000 forward to to a really good game. 414 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,319 Speaker 4: No doubt about it. And you're gonna get your your 415 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,480 your eyes on first time. I think adri de Bonsa 416 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,480 gotta be uh, you know, exciting the first overall pick 417 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,920 in the next year's NBA draft. 418 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 5: It's absolutely crazy how good this freshman class is. 419 00:18:13,279 --> 00:18:13,599 Speaker 3: It is. 420 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,799 Speaker 5: It is good for the game of basketball and agent 421 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:17,759 what he can do. 422 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: I think everybody saw a glimpse. Everyone knew how good 423 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:21,559 he was. 424 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 5: But that second half against Utah and Boss like he was, 425 00:18:24,599 --> 00:18:26,119 he was the best player on the floor. He just 426 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,680 took over the game. He brought b YU back into 427 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,839 it even though they don't win. But like you can 428 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,720 see that part of it is like, Okay, you're gonna 429 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,160 have your hands full and you got to guard his 430 00:18:35,279 --> 00:18:38,640 five and make said everyone's in And that's where b 431 00:18:38,759 --> 00:18:40,640 Yu is gonna have some open looks. They're gonna have 432 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,240 some different things because I think Age is gonna be 433 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,240 able to create a lot and you know, Wiscott's skinning important. 434 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: You gotta take care of Richie, you gotta take care of aging. 435 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 5: But that's why I think when you look at just 436 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,160 what they do, you know White's gonna be such a 437 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,440 key part of it because that's the X. 438 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,759 Speaker 3: Factor in my opinion. So I'm really looking forward to 439 00:18:57,839 --> 00:18:58,680 a great game. Guys. 440 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,759 Speaker 4: Brian Butch, lady and gentlemen, good look on the call, 441 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:02,720 and have a great time watching this game. 442 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:04,079 Speaker 2: Enjoy Salt Lake City. 443 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 3: It'll be a blast, all right, guys, I appreciate it, 444 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,559 Thanks so much. 445 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,599 Speaker 2: All right, appreciate you. 446 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: That's Brian Butch, analysts for the Badgers Radio network, and 447 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,599 a great segment from from him. 448 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: And this is a good one. 449 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: This is gonna be a fantastic matchup obviously at the 450 00:19:20,519 --> 00:19:21,759 trio roberright the third A J. 451 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,279 Speaker 2: Debonsa and Richie Saunders. 452 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: They've combined to score sixty eight percent of bilious points 453 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,720 this season, and we expect that once again the Wisconsin Badgers. 454 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:34,640 And but the Wisconsin Badgers also have plenty of firepowers. 455 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,759 You guys mentioned Ronald breaking down this team, Nick Boyd, 456 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:44,240 Nolan Winter are guys you got to get to know. 457 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,079 Speaker 2: Also, John Blackwell and Austin Rapp. 458 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 4: They got a great starting five and they have a 459 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,240 pretty deep bench as well. The Badgers do all right 460 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:57,400 as far as the line is concerned. BYU is a 461 00:19:57,519 --> 00:20:01,319 favorite in this game, I believe, and ESPN analytics giving 462 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,519 b yu was sixty three point three percent chance of 463 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,599 victory as a you know, on a neutral court, but 464 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,000 it'll be a home home court advantage. What are the 465 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,720 tickets going for right now? By the way, I know 466 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,799 Brian Santiago was discussing giving some discounted tickets to Cougarnation. 467 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,519 We're gonna have we gotta jam packed that Delta Center 468 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,519 with the ticket prices being sky high, and these are 469 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:27,160 games it's a little bit unfortunate. We'd like to get 470 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,799 all the fans out there, the loyal, strong and true 471 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:31,920 wearing the white and blue at the Delta Center. 472 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 473 00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 6: I think when I was looking yesterday been to get 474 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,680 tickets for the game, and I think this was like, 475 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,799 you know, vivid seats. The upper bowl was not not cheap. 476 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,720 It was, you know, definitely expensive. You know ranging I 477 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:49,759 think one thirty now it's is skyrocketed. Yesterday I think 478 00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:51,720 it was in the nineties. And then to set lower 479 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,000 ball sit all the way down there. You know, in 480 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,200 sections like twelve through fifteen, it goes from three hundred. 481 00:20:57,319 --> 00:20:59,640 So crazy, that's how it is. I mean, all eye 482 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,240 is gonna be on AJ. But that's just the way 483 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:04,160 it is. And to your point, when I backchart just 484 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,680 a little bit, you mentioned a big three right now. 485 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,720 They're combining. You know, you said for a sixty sixty 486 00:21:09,759 --> 00:21:12,440 two percent of you ease points fifty seven point six 487 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,240 points per game, AJ twenty point three, Richie nineteen point five, 488 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,839 and then Rob Wright seventeen point a just around that, 489 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,279 So combining for about fifty eight points a game. 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