Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve that's you, you break down
top but this year with you, with the confidences, playbooks,
BIX twelve and Southeastern conferences. Tom, this sad time.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I know it's rivalry week, but it's the last week
of the College roll regular.
Speaker 3: Season already, and I'm kind of thankful.
Speaker 1: I'll be frank like, this is the only sport that
the postseason is significantly worse than the regular season. And
so for me, I'm like everybody's like, oh, You're ready
for Glserol Playoff. No, No, I'm not. Actually, I'm not
looking forward to the Gala Swell Playoff. I enjoy the
regular season more so. With that said, it's almost coming
to an end. But we have plenty of hot takes,
plenty of corners around the globe to span of where
we could uh be go with our hot takes this week,
and uh where I will head to this week?
Speaker 2: Tom on my.
Speaker 1: Hot tag, I am going to go to the land
of Agis, Texas A and m ageas that is. And
Mike Elco has done a very good job this season.
They are undefeated, they're well on their way to the
SEC title game and everything. But Tom, I feel like
I can confidently say the Texas A and M is
going to get handled their first loss this season, either
Friday against Texas or next week in the SEC championship game.
Speaker 2: One of the two. I think all good things must
come to an end.
Speaker 1: Texas A and M should have lost South Carolina a
couple of weeks ago. They've played a cupcake schedule in
the SEC. They had a good non conway in that
notre name. I'll give them that. That's a big deal.
But I think that Texas A and M is about
to get caught, and I think the things could go
downhill from there that I see an early exit from
the playoff in their horizon. I am not buying into
Texas A and M right now.
Speaker 3: Tom Bendon, Barcel Reid, I think he's okay.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's great. I don't think you can
win a national championship with Marcell Reid.
Speaker 3: Who was the quarterback for A and M drafted by
the Vikings a couple of years ago. Josh Johnson, I'm
trying to think he was around when maybe it was
like twenty nineteen. He reminds me, I mean pretty much
the same build. You could almost say the same pretty
much the same guy was drafted by the Kendall Mann
Kellen mand Marcel Reed, Kellen cold Man. Yes, it reminds
me kind of the same type of guy. I thought
that I was. I was just there.
Speaker 2: Well, actually the Bramas are gone, so I don't know
where he plays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say I thought they took the promise.
I passed by Alan Mondome this morning at six am.
Funny enough, but yeah, you know, I've called for Adam's
head all seas and I was like, they're gonna choke
at some point. It's it's tradition, right, and A and
M is so big on tradition that cult midnight yell.
They're gonna be yelling at midnight after they take their
first loss. Uh in d k R this weekend. I think,
you know, Arch played well last week. That's not saying
a whole lot because who they played, but but it's
in Arkansas. But that being said, I think I think
and him for what it is, I think they've had
a good year, right, I think that had a great year.
I think they lose call inclined to somebody. I don't
know exactly who just yet, but they might lose that firepower,
and they'll have to replace it. I think Elco's good
enough coach to do it. Do you think Jones I
was wondering this too, and I was wondering this after
North Texas fans are all on Twitter just like, yeah,
screwer Morris. I can't believe you left. We were building
something special. Do you think Duke fans rep raying him?
Speaker 2: I think that Duke fans just don't care about college football.
Speaker 3: I mean, but I mean ol Co. He was I
don't say building something there, but they were a little
bit better when he was there. I wouldn't say making
crazy noise, but they were watchable.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you think they kind of root for him on
the side, like, you know, go be great? Or do
you think they're like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't really care what Duke fans think. To be honest,
I think it's kind of irrelevant.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, uh yeah, I'm both you and I are
both on the same page. A loss is coming sooner
than later for I am not a title contending team.
Speaker 2: Kind of like what we had talked about with the
Colts and with the Bears.
Speaker 1: You can acknowledge that A and M's had in the
right direction Elko has done a good job, but there
are things.
Speaker 2: Are gonna catch up to them at some point, and
I think that's hadening sooner and later. All right, Tom,
where do you want to go for a hot take
this week?
Speaker 3: Can I go to Stillwater?
Speaker 2: I'm We're literally about to go there in a few minutes.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, let me swap up here.
Speaker 2: We're about to go to Stielwater in a moment.
Speaker 1: We're about to go to Oxford, We're about to go
to Baden Rouge, and we're about to go to Fayeville.
Speaker 2: So by all means, there's a lot of different places
you can still go.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I'm gonna give you my hot
take this week, and I think you'll like this one.
I think you'll like this one a lot. I'm gonna
go to Lawrence on Black Friday, Utah struts into Lawrence.
K you needs a bowl or k you needs a
victory to go bowling? And in a year the KU
probably thought they were gonna be a little bit better.
I'm from one. I understand this is Jalen daniels last
season and KU.
Speaker 2: Coulda be his last game Saturday or for Friday.
Speaker 3: Yep, could be it's not gonna be though. Kansas is
going to upset the utah Utes and Lawrence and they're
gonna go bowling, and it's gonna eliminate Utah and we're
gonna set up for a b y U Tech showed
out in Arlington. Ku is going to beat Utah. I'm
gonna say thirty one and Ku is going bowling.
Speaker 2: K State almost big Utah last week.
Speaker 1: Utah gave him a lot of points and as a
result fell in the couch Ball playoff rankings.
Speaker 3: Case they in case they did give him a hell
of a run.
Speaker 2: So it's not impossible, but I think it's unlikely. I'm
not getting my hopest.
Speaker 3: That's why it's hot, baby, That's why it's hot. That's
why it's sound unlike You're unlike, unlike your previous Thanksgiving foods.
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, too soon? Yeah, all right. Now, let's let's
go one by one. Let's start in Oxford Slash Baton
rouge Lane Kiffin. What's he gonna do? Where's he gonna go?
Speaker 1: There was a survey that came out that Brett McMurphy,
America's College Football Insider, put out asking eighty different college
football media members where they think Lane Kiffin is going
to go. Fifty seven of them said LSU, only seventeen
said he was going to remain with Old Miss.
Speaker 2: Some said he was going to go to the Tennessee Titans.
Somebody even said he's gonna end up at Alabama. And
that job's not even open right now. But here's the circumstance,
all right for folks trying to keep up Old Miss.
Speaker 1: Win in the egg Bowl this week, they could be
playing for an SEC title and they would lock up
a spot in the collegetball playoff. We said win, uh,
and they might already be locked in all things considered,
actually because they only have one loss.
Speaker 2: All right, But with that said, Ole Miss is in
a really good spot.
Speaker 1: And that is a team that is not just a
playoff team, but a national championship contending team. Uh. You
know Trinidad, you know, Shameless has been really good at
the quarterback spot, the defense has been solid. There's a
lot to like about Old Miss team. And now you know,
Lane's got apparently a ninety million dollar offer from LSU
right there, And Tom, I really don't know how this
is going to go. I've gone back and forth on
this last week. I said, I think he's going to LSU,
And now I'm looking at I'm like, can he really
leave for LSU right before at SEC title game, right
before contending in the College Sewall playoff?
Speaker 2: Can he really leave his team hind dry like that?
That sounds crazy to me.
Speaker 1: And the situation at Old Miss, He's got total job security.
They've got plenty of money and resources. You know, we
mentioned this team's gonna be a contender for the national
title this year. You got all you want right now
if you're laying kiffing Old Miss. But LSU that's one
of the best jobs in the country. I know that
their administration has been unstable as of late, but it's
a recruiting hot bed. You got a lot of resources,
got a ton of money to work with. It is
a better job than Old Miss. But every coach that
takes that job eventually gets fired. Brian Kelly the only
one in recent memory that did not win a national championship.
Speaker 2: Tom, I don't know how that's gonna play out.
Speaker 1: But I sit here and I say, if I were laying,
I think I'm staying at Old Miss, and I think
it's it's fair to say it would be a scumbag
move to leave Old Miss right now and take that
LSU job. You know Ole Miss is not gonna let
him stay and be a short term head coach. Wall
going to the LSU job, you know they're gonna say,
pack your bags and get the hell out of here
if he's gonna have takeing the LSU job right away.
But to me, it would be it would be dishonorable.
It would take away a lot of credibility if he
did those things. But you look at Lane Kiffin and
how he's made his moves in the past, it would
be par for the course. Like if anybody is gonna
be scumback enough to leave this situation, it'd be it'd
be Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I would if I was Lane Kiffin.
If I woke up tomorrow and I was Lane Kiffen,
I think I would stay at Old Miss. I think
you gotta run with what you built. I think a
lot of people thought after Jackson Dark left, I thought,
you know, I think a lot of people probably that's
included we want to go back and look, No Jackson Dart, Yeah,
probably not gonna be that good of a year for
Old Miss. You could argue this year has been better
for old miss than last year?
Speaker 2: It is it has been better.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, okay, like sure, like like
I think a lot of people wrote them off. And
I think if you're laying Kevin, like, listen, the grass
isn't always greener. Yeah, And I think if you go
over to another past year that looks green and you
find out it's artificial turf, uh, then you might upset
Less Miles, right, and you might not. So let's both
let Less Miles. Was he eating the grass at LSU?
Isn't that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was his thing? So let's let's both do this. Tom,
Let's let's let's both answer these two questions. Let's start
off with this.
Speaker 1: On the count of three, you and I both say
where we think Lane Kiffin is gonna coach next year?
Speaker 2: One two three, l.
Speaker 3: S U cut out? Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I hear you? Now that that exercise didn't work out
so well, I said Tom. On the count of one.
Speaker 1: On the count of one, two three, both of us
say where we think Lane Kiffin is gonna coach next year?
Speaker 3: One I heard the one or I didn't hear? The
question is what I didn't hear because it cut out.
Speaker 1: Okay, one two three, l s U Miss Okay, all right,
So I think he's gonna go. I'm not super confident
in that, but I think he's gonna end up going
to LSU.
Speaker 3: I gotta he's gonna stay.
Speaker 2: Now here's the other question.
Speaker 1: What should he do if he's If we're Lane Kiffin,
where should he coach next year? One two three, Ole
Miss Old Miss? Okay, So we're both on the same
page in that one. I think Tom like it's one
of these deals. He's been flirting with jobs for years
and flirting with leaving Old Miss. Eventually he's got to
flirt and take that job, right. That's that to me, Like,
there's got to be a breaking point here and in
Old Miss Old Miss.
Speaker 4: We talked about this last week. They gave him an ultimatum.
They said, we need a decision by this date. And
that's not the messaging. If you're old Miss, you should
be saying here. You should be on your knees begging,
pleading with Lane Kiffin to stay, because there is nobody
out there that's gonna be as good as Lane Kiffin
for Old Miss. I think Old Miss Tom, even though.
Speaker 1: I think Lane should stay at Old Miss, and that's
the better job for him, you know, and all things considered,
I don't think Old Miss is necessarily and that's the
right way themselves.
Speaker 3: What say you, No, Yeah, they shouldn't. I think they
should be. I wouldn't say begging. You don't want to
seem desperate, but I think you do have to instill
some boundaries there in terms of like, hey, listen, it's
kind of like you take your girlfriend out and a
bunch of dudes are checking her out at the bar
and you're like, okay, enjoy the attention or whatever, but
don't reciprocate Lane Kifvin's been reciprocating, and if you're the boyfriend,
which you're in this case, it'd be Old Miss. At
some point you got to say, okay, screw then, we don't,
we don't want you anymore. If Lane Kivin is gonna
be a hoe, then maybe Lane Kiffen's for the streets.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe at some point, at some point you gotta have
some self respect and say, you know what, fuck you
like Givin, We'll get well, yeah, we'll do something. We'll
we'll get it, We'll get right somehow. You go off
to l s U and be a whore for Mike
the Tiger.
Speaker 2: Right still Water.
Speaker 1: Eric Morris is the new head coach of the Oklahoma
State Cowboys. He's gonna finish out the year with North Texas.
That could be a conference title game, that could be a.
Speaker 2: Collegetball playoff appearance, potentially uh for Eric Morris.
Speaker 1: Great QB track record, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes, cam Ward,
John Matteer.
Speaker 2: He's been a winner everywhere. He's been a brilliant offensive mind. Tom.
Speaker 1: I like the high for Oklahoma State, and I give
Chad Weiberg credit here. Everybody in Stillwater was pushing him
to make the move to go against Zach Robinson, to
bring Zach home, and there would have been a timetable
because you would have had to wait till January, till
the NFL season was over with in order to do so,
and you got the transfer portal window opening up, you
got early signing day opening up.
Speaker 2: That would have put Oklahoma State behind the eight ball.
Speaker 1: Not to mention, he doesn't have college coaching experience and
his offenses aren't doing so hot with the Atlanta Falcons
right now. Anyway, they go get a proven coach that's
one that knows offense that's recruited that area at a
high level.
Speaker 2: I think they did a really good job. I don't
know for certain.
Speaker 1: I can't say without a shadow of a doubt that
Eric Morris is a home run higher. But I can
look at that and say that they made the best of.
Speaker 2: The situation that they could have. I like to move.
What do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm over the moon. To be honest with you,
I'm absolutely over the moon.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I think between Alex Golish and Eric Morris, those are
my well, at first, I'll be honest with you, was
g J. Kenney from Texas State when they first fired
Mike Gundy, and then after kind of reviewing the situation,
and then after the year the USF has had and
the year that North Texas has had compared to Texas
State then and looking at the you know, looking at
the I don't know the tributaries of the coaching stream,
right you look at Golish. I think Alex Golish was
a graduate assistant in Oklahoma State. I didn't know that
met his wife at Oklahoma State. There's ties there. You
have ties with Chad Weiberg and Eric Morris back at
Texas Tech. And there's there's you know what we talked
about it today. There are further ties that Eric Morris
was a wide receiver on Texas Tech when Gundy went
on a ham a man on forty rant. I mean
that's just a little fun, you know, tidbits there. But
there are other ties there. And you look at what
Eric Morris can and will bring to Oklahoma State. He
has a top ten quarterback, His offensive proudness is awesome.
He sounds like he's gonna bring the d C. Skyler Cassidy,
who is a brother to Braidon Cassidy, who is a
former well known cowboy back at Oklahoma State. Braid Cassidy four,
your guy, well loved and still water. I mean, the
ties are there right but because they said the ties
that bind, and and they're binding right now, and I
am I am for one. I'm I'm super excited. I
think there's nothing better that could happen to o SU
this weekend. If they beat Iowa State, You're gonna see
an OSU fan base come from the bottom of the basement,
like where Bain came from, like uh from Dark Knight,
like I was bowling in the darkness. You only you know,
it's like I was molded by it. Well, you know,
it's like coming like it's like the killer or Whoever's
like coming out of my cage. And I've been doing
just fine. We're gonna be the issue is gonna be
back next season? Jones, you can book it right now.
Are they gonna go to the Big Twelve title game
next year? Probably not. Are they gonna go bowling next year?
I think so.
Speaker 2: Bowling I think is capable. I think that certainly within
the Roman possibility.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's see them win a Big Twelve game for
the first time in two years to be a step
in the right direction.
Speaker 3: I feel like when we flip scripts here that used
to be you with Kansas. Yeah, now the turn the
tables of turn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's see they do that first and then
we can talk about them going to a Bowl game.
Speaker 2: But uh, I like to hire. I think they have
some money issues that they still need to overcome.
Speaker 1: You got to spend to win. We've seen teams work
well with less, but you know, what, what are they
gonna do? Is the money going to show up?
Speaker 2: Can they do that?
Speaker 1: You still have to be able to have the money
and right, I mean, say, what do you want about
my Gundy? And I think Mike Gandy did a pissport
job the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 2: But there's only so much you can do with.
Speaker 1: A lack of resources there and that's got to improved
too for Oklahoma State. But we'll see how things go
on at that front Arkansas. At the time of this recording,
Tom's still looking for a new head coach. We've heard
Gowich at South Florida seems to be a leading candidate.
Silver Field at Memphis is another possibility. You know, John
Summroll's name has been mentioned. You know, there's there's a
lot of possible abilities. I mean, even Ed Orgeron has
his name's popped up. But one thing I've heard talking
to some Arkansas people, uh Hunter Yersic their ad has
looked like a clown as the head of the Kyle
Show playoff committee.
Speaker 2: Uh, he tried to. He did a stupid six seven
joke the other night on ESPN.
Speaker 3: Mike. I don't think they're related.
Speaker 2: A different spell believe, but he had a stupid joke
about six seven.
Speaker 1: His uh, his rationale for the ranking, especially like when
he comes to Miami and Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: It was pretty off base the the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I mean, he has looked like a moron, and Arkansas
fans have seen that he is a moron the last
couple of seasons.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And now people are getting first hand look at it
a national TV and I think that that might be.
Speaker 2: Turning some people off. Potentially, that might be making that
job situation worse.
Speaker 3: I mean, Dad to that time, like your I'm watching
it right now. This is whatever his name is, just
under sixty seven.
Speaker 1: This this guy, like you're supposed to be heading a
coaching search right now. And he took a promotion to
head the college football playoff Committee. I'm like, why are
you even on the college footballo offf committee to begin with?
Go hire a coach, Like, I think this.
Speaker 2: Is looking like a rough situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then in his interview where he did at
the six seven, you know he's wearing the he's wearing
a oh my god, that's horrible. He's wearing the infamous
tan suit. God that was Noah, that was a little
out of touch. Yeah, that's bad Jones. I'm I'm gonna
I'm gonna ask you this and remove the SEC brand
just who would you m hmm. I think I know
you're gonna choose, but I just have to ask it
conferences aside better job Oklahoma State or Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Well, we know Arkansas's got more money and they have
better facilities. I think Arkansas's better shot.
Speaker 3: But who's going to be better in the next five years?
Next five years? That's that's just kind of have the
way to see Arkansas high. Yeah, we'll see Arkansas hires first.
That job is looking dysfunctional.
Speaker 2: I would say, who would have thought? We didn't even
know that.
Speaker 1: Chad Weiberg had a job about two months ago. And
right now the still water looks a lot more stable
than they do in fade Ville at the moment. So
that roller coaster that in itself is a bit of a.
Speaker 2: Surprise there as far as all that goes at this point.
All right, let's look at the you.
Speaker 3: Have to mention the last thing. I have to mention
last thing before we go on this. I'm a little sad. Well,
I'm not sad. I'm happy for that Oklahoma State got
Eric Morris. I'm a little sad that the coaching search
is over. Yeah, a little bit right, And I will
say this because all I've ever known is Mike Gundy,
and kind of the same way for San Antonio Spurs,
all I ever knew was Greg Popovich, right, and there
wasn't a necessary coaching search to to go get Mitch.
But it's kind of like the Spurs when they finally
you know, this is the first draft lottery I ever
saw the Spurs, And this is like the first time
I ever saw you know, Oklahoma State and the coaching carousel.
And as bad as Oklahoma State is, that was like
the only thing giving me excitement this season around Oklahoma State.
And so I'm a little sad it's over. And it
was exciting and it was like, ooh, the rumors going around,
Oh they're saying Colin Klein or saying Zach Robinson. Golish
fucking John Gruden was on the on the bet list,
and it was fun and it was good. But I'm
gonna tell you this, I hope I don't ever have
to go through the coaching search as a fan of
Oklahoma State for like at least ten another ten years. Yeah,
it was fun while it lasted.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the memories. Let's go ahead and talk about these.
Speaker 1: Latest couchrowball Paaloff Frankings to start with the Big twelve
teams tack at five, b YU and eleven, Utah thirteen,
Arizona State at twenty, and then Arizona at twenty five. Tom,
looking at the Big twelve front Texas Tech, I think
you win this finale, this regular season finale this week,
and we'll talk about this game more in a moment.
Against West Virginia, you're locked in the playoffs, You're set.
You might already be locked in, but you're definitely locked
in with a win this week. BYU, I think because
of you know where they sit, they they probably need
to win out. They probably need to win the Big
twelve and beg Texas Tech head to head in a
rematch to get in.
Speaker 2: Utah. It's not looking good.
Speaker 1: They they're gonna need some help essentially, and then you know,
Arizona State and Arizona are just happy to be ranked
at this point.
Speaker 2: But I think that's what we're looking at.
Speaker 3: Tom.
Speaker 1: You know those those teams, It's Tech seems to be
the only one that's really in great shape. I think
you know BYU and Utah like by you still I'll
say this if you're a BYU fan, here's your silver lining.
Speaker 2: You still control your own destiny. Utah is gonna need
a ton of help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not gonna get it from Tech, And
I don't think they're gonna get it from b YU.
To be honest, I think you gotta be hoping and
wishing to waiting. I mean, u CF is gonna play
b YU in provo. U c F was lucky to
beat Oklahoma State last week. You know who's Oh, Tech
plays in Morgantown, but it's eleven am. It's not even
a spooky Morgantown. So for for Utah, you gotta take
care of business against Kansas. What's already picked Kansas, and
you're gonna need one of those two teams to lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then need to win the Big twelve championship
more than likely. Yeah, Right, So it's a long road there. Meanwhile,
the SEC front A and M no matter what happens,
they're in at eleven and zero. They're in great shape
as a number three seed George at ten to one.
Even if they lose George Tech this week, that's not
a bad loss. I think George is probably still in
the playoff. They're in good shape there. George is in
a good position. Oklahoma beat LSU this week. They're not
gonna be in the SEC title game, but I think
they win and that guarantees them a first round by
and the Sooners are looking really good.
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about the Sooners Jerry Ramsey coming up
in just a moment.
Speaker 1: Alabama at nine and two Iron Bowl can get a
little bit spooky. We've seen that in the past, but
I think if they win this, they're in. I don't
think you can penalize BEMA if they lose in the
SEC Championship, whether that's the A and M or Old Miss,
even if it is a third loss. I don't think
you can be penalized for getting to your conference championship
game as far as that goes. Vandy at nine and
two probably gonna need some help where they're at sitting
at four. Team Texas I think at eight and three
is out of the conversation. Tennessee out at eight and three,
at nineteen and there's your look at your SEC teams
at this point. But Tom, I think that we sit
here at A and M. Georgia, oh, you and Bama
seemed to be in really good shape, and uh, I
would I would guess that Vandy is the only one
really outside that group that's got a chance from the.
Speaker 2: SEC at this point.
Speaker 3: Not only hope they do. At this point, I'm kind
of rooting on the underdog Vandy to get in. It's
been a great, great, like two year story for them.
I know, Diego Pavilla, you know, I think didn't he
like trying to get another year of eligibility.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing now.
Speaker 3: Who knows? Who knows? I hope they I hope they do.
If if Slash one you has a first round home
playoff game, you're going, right, uh yeah, absolutely? Who what?
Who would they face?
Speaker 5: Right now?
Speaker 3: Notre Dame?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 1: You would play Notre Dame. The ESPN Playoff predictor says
their most likely scenario is to move up to the
five seed and play North Texas in the opening round.
Speaker 3: That would be I might just i't just in O
s usta. It's like a is that like a consolation bedlam?
Speaker 2: I guess the closest thing will get for a while, potentially.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go through the big twelve slide of games. Uh,
here we go, Rapid Fire, Utah and Ku Tom's already
picked Utah.
Speaker 2: I'm going with Utah.
Speaker 3: It's no faith, no faith.
Speaker 2: I don't have any faith, no faith. I don't feel
good about this at all.
Speaker 1: I think Utah, you know, had that Case State game
not happened last week, then I'll be like, Okay, maybe
KYU catches them.
Speaker 2: Looking I think that game should have woken up you
Doah more than.
Speaker 3: Likely Tyree kill for a kicked six.
Speaker 1: Then the Territorial Cup on Friday night, number twenty five, Arizona,
number twenty Arizona states. Arizona favored in this game. Tom,
we know samu Levant's out, Jordan Tyson's out. No fa
Fida his last game. I think I lean towards Arizona here,
but I can see this going either way. I don't
believe in Jeff Simms. I think Fafida goes out with
a bank.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Arizona too, No Levett, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Tech taking on West Virginia. Tom, this one of thing's
over by the first quarter.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Text gonna take care of business and UH
start having Arlington dreams.
Speaker 1: This is an ass whappon Houston tay on Baylor rivalry game,
Uh Baylor two and that point favorites. They're trying to
get both eligible. Tom, I think Houston Squeaks went out.
Speaker 2: I expect this to be close though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Houston as well. Baylor's gonna retain Miranda.
We'll see if it pays off.
Speaker 1: Uh. Colorado taking on Kansas State. The Cats almost pulled
one off last week against Utah. They're five and six,
Colorado three and eight. Uh.
Speaker 2: Tom k stayed at home. Need this one to get
to a bowl game, get to the Fort Worth Bowl
or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Colorado's got major issues. I like k State big.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'll take case State as well. They looked good
against Utah last week. They'll they'll do it this week.
Speaker 1: Iowa State seven and four are going to still Water
take on one inten Oklahoma State, I would state, too
many injuries. This isn't the year they wanted of what
could have been. But you finished out and four. That's
not a bad season. Oklahoma State. I think that he's
not gonna be the head he's Uh. I would say
that for Oklahoma State. This is the last kind of
audition of sorts like Doug Meacham. If he wants to
stick around the name to watch. I think it's Clint Bowen. Uh.
Speaker 2: I know Clint very well, former interim head coach at
KUS defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: They're under David Beatty and work on Less Miles' staff
as well. He's impressed me what he's done there with
that defense there and still Water. If they have a
decent showing here, Eric Morris paying attention there, Clint Bowen
should should be considered to stick around.
Speaker 3: I think, probably think they will. Every week they've gotten better.
There's just little little mistakes, little blips that end up
costing them in the game. I think if if God
is good, Oklahoma State will win this week. They'll get
it done. Give me o'club with State by one hundred.
Speaker 1: UCF taking on b YU BYU seventeen and a half
point favorites. They need this one trying to get to
the Big twelve championship. B YU bear Bachmeyron Company.
Speaker 2: I like them big.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh yeah. I think easily.
Speaker 1: Since he and TCU both teams at seven and four,
both teams are going bowling. This game is in Fort Worth,
TCU four and a half point favorites.
Speaker 3: I think Hooper game.
Speaker 2: I think TCU wins. They put up a lot of
points here.
Speaker 3: I think it's mad close. I think it's I think
TCU wins, but it could be one of those you
said four and a half a half I think, I think.
I think since he could cover this, I think this
is gonna be the best game of the week in
the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: The Egg Bowl, Old Misstate on Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: Tom, if Lane Kiffin is truly leaving, I could see
them slipping up and losing this game in Mississippi State
and then just making that exit ramp a little easier.
Jeff Levy's team has played pretty decent compared to what
was expected. They're five and six. I think Mississippi State's
got a chance, but I still like.
Speaker 2: Ole miss.
Speaker 3: Mississippi State has played well this season.
Speaker 1: Georgia and Georgia Tech in Atlanta at Mercedes Benz Stadium.
Georgia thirteen and a half point favorites. This game went
to eight overtimes last year george Tech nearly one. Tom,
I like Georgia, but in a close.
Speaker 3: Game, yeah, I think. I think I like Georgia too,
but can never out of count O hayenes King, he's
a baller, He's uh. He didn't get enough credit. I
think it's gonna be a tight game.
Speaker 1: The Lone Star Showdown. Last year, Bevo was banned from
college station. In retaliation, the Longhorns have banned Texas A
and M dog mascot revel I had a Friday's matchup
no dogs allowed from A and M and M one
and a half point favorites. Marcel Reid gone up against
arch Manning. Texas offense has looked better, Art has played
pretty well in the last few weeks. They're sending today
and three Texas A and M trying to finish a
perfect regular season.
Speaker 2: Here, Tom, I'll go A and M. But I'll go
A and M close.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go opposite. I'm gonna take Texas.
Speaker 1: Okay, Saturday Slate, let's roll through these real quick. Kentucky
and Louisville. Tom Mark Stoops trying to get Bowl eligible here.
I do not think that happens.
Speaker 2: I like uh, I like it.
Speaker 3: Louisville here, I'll also take a lot I don't I think.
I don't know if Marks tubs gets cut, gets the axe,
but this might be the start of the start of that.
Speaker 1: Clemson six and five taking on four to seven South Carolina.
Has there been a state with two more disappointing teams
in Clemson and South Carolina this year, I think the
answer is no. With that said, uh, this game feel
like pick your poison. I think I actually leaned towards
South Carolina, but I don't say that with a whole
lot of confidence here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't what's the what's the line?
Speaker 2: South Carolina three and a half? Stay away?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't touch it.
Speaker 2: LSU take it out. Number eight Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: The Sooners with a big win last week against Miszoo.
Their defense is playing spectacular, the offense has some issues.
Speaker 2: John Ettier isn't.
Speaker 1: Playing like he used to budd He's not necessarily getting
in the way either. I like what I've seen from
the Bowen brothers. Uh, they've been terrific on the defensive
side of the ball. Special team's been really good. LSU's
got lots out Harold Perkinson Company. But uh, they're trying
to figure out who their next head coach is, and
those players are trying figure out where they're gonna play next.
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be kind of checked out of
this game. I like, O you Tom by at least
double digits.
Speaker 3: I'd take you by like ten yeah, I think so.
I think that's about right.
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Vandy Diego Pavia trying to get the Commodorees
into the College Football playoff road game in Nayland Stadium.
He's talked a lot of smack about Tennessee over the
last several weeks. Tom, I think he's gonna back it up.
I like Vandy to go into Knoxville and win.
Speaker 3: This one is going to be there, and his favorite
team is Vanderbilt. I gotta roll with Vandy here.
Speaker 1: Missoo in Arkansas Missoo seven and four, Arkansas two at nine.
They didn't get bow back last week. Hardy did not
get to have that big of a day against Ou.
One of the nation's league rushers was limited about sixty
yards last week.
Speaker 2: Missoo has their way.
Speaker 3: I like Missoo big, Yeah, I think so. I think
it's just gets words for Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Florida and Florida State. This is a SECOS game.
Speaker 1: Florida three and eight, Florida State five and six. They're
keeping Mike Norvel for some who knows reason. I think
I'll go Florida State here, but uh I would not.
Speaker 2: I would not watch this game. You you'd have to
pay me to watch this game.
Speaker 3: Tom. Yeah, it's weird too, because you know Costiano's we
thought early on, we're like, was he a Heisman Canada?
He's looking good? He was, They were doing all.
Speaker 2: This and I don't even know who's gonna win the
Heisman now, by the.
Speaker 3: Way, Noah who That's another discussion for some time. But
I don't I'm I'm lost on that. I think it's
probably as close as it's ever been. There's not really
a standout, and you know, it's it's funny when you
look at the heisman graft at the beginning of the
year and that like Kate Klubnick is gonna be the
favorite for the Heisman?
Speaker 1: Like yeah right, yeah, last one Baba and Auburn, Tom,
this is Auburn super Bowl.
Speaker 2: This kind of like when O WESU would play oh
you you know, uh so.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: So with that said, you're gonna get Auburn's best effort.
But Ty Simpson the company, when that offense is running properly,
they're unbelievable and they have a really good passing game.
But Caylin de boor as disappointed when he's needed to
in some of these type of games, Tom, I think
I like Alabama to win this one. It's a close
game for three quarters and they pull away late in this.
Speaker 3: What time does the game has?
Speaker 2: A night game is six thirty on ABC Saturday Night.
Speaker 3: At Auburn. Yes, yeah, I think you're right then that
that that tracks. I still do like Bama though.
Speaker 1: All right, there's your luck around the Big twelve and
Southeastern Conference coming up. On the other side, Jerry Ramsey
joins us. Still more to come, don't go anywhere, try
us out the program this week play to welcome in
from the franchise. He and Oklahoma City is our good
friend Jerry Ramsey who joins us on the program right now.
Speaker 2: Jerry, Happy Thanksgiving to you. What is the game plan
for you? What are the must haves on the Thanksgiving plate?
Speaker 5: I don't mean to brag here, but we've done that
in a bunch of years. This year, the just the
little extended family we have with Grandpa and Grandma and
a couple of us, we decided to go ahead and
go out and let somebody else do it for us.
So there's a menu. It's what it's an imagined Thanksgiving dinner.
So it's gonna be a little different this year. Yeah,
you're gonna have all the basics with your dressing and
turkey and stuff like that. But I think it's reimagined
at this place. So admittedly maybe a little fancy and
what we're used to doing, but yeah, we found it
ourselves on the back and said we're gonna go ahead
and let somebody else do it this year.
Speaker 2: Hey, whatever works, right, Gee don't.
Speaker 5: I don't have to clean up, and I'm not making
anything the night before.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've in charge of the green bean castle role
and the cocktails.
Speaker 5: Oh now, now I listen to me real, real quick. Okay,
First of all, you cannot mess up green bean castrole.
No you can't. There's no way. Like you can try,
but you cannot mess it up.
Speaker 2: No idosovit school of GBC.
Speaker 5: So it's a piece of cake. Get it done, make
sure it's crispy on top, and you're good. But you
ready for the cocktails. I think this is so easy
and we forget about this all the time. I've been
actually looking to get myself into these over the weekend.
I mean it's simple hot cocoa coffee and Bailey's hot
cocoa coffee and Bailey's. I mean, once again, you can't
mess it up. And who doesn't like hot cocoa coffee
and Bailey's it's pretty easy to get it done. So
you don't have to put a asparagus spear in anything.
You don't have to cut a bloodhorn or something like that.
It's pretty to the point and does the job, does
the job you need it. If you're cold, it warms job.
And also without it being warm, it warms up. So
good stuff there. That's uh, that's how I'm we go
with cocktails.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can I can see that. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Jerry, Oh, you number eight in the latest college football
playoff rankings.
Speaker 2: A win against LSU likely means.
Speaker 1: A spot of the college Football Playoff and the first
ever playoff game at Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium. Uh,
tell me your thoughts just on where this OU team
is at right now, so close to uh to reaching
that point.
Speaker 5: It seems it's so easy to get caught up on
some of the things that they need to clean up
on the offensive end. Uh, and you know kind of
uh even complain about some of the things they're not doing.
But if you just take one step back and what
you just said, Uh, they're gonna have They're gonna have
a home game, a home playoff game there in November
and December. Goodness gracious. And with the schedule that they've
played this year. They've played at Tennessee, they played at Alabama,
they played at home to Michigan, amongst other, I mean
other really good matchups, there's been a dream season just
if you step back and look at the schedule, and
then with the potential of a win against LSU. But
by the way, I didn't even mention because they're having
a disappointing season, but the LSU Tigers at your place
to get to ten wins, I mean, honestly, it's been
if you look back at it, a very very dreamy
season for OU fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I look at how the season has gone,
and they were clearly outplayed in the Texas game, the
Old Miss game. I feel like that was one they
should have won. But if they had won the Old
Miss game, they probably would have wound up losing to
Alabama or Tennessee. That that game, that stretch was so tough,
you were going to lose one of those. So all
that all here, looking back with how tough that schedule
was and what Oklahoma had to endure.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: I think Brett Vinibles has done a terrific job with
this season, with what he had in front of him
and the circumstances they faced.
Speaker 5: If you go behind the scenes a little bit too,
what Oklahoma did with the Oaklham administration did was they
let Brent Vinnables do what Bret Vinables does best, and
that's go ahead and get a hold of the defense offensively.
They handed it over to Ben Arbuckle. They said, don't
worry about scouting, don't worry about any of the nil
stuff like administratively, will take care of that this year
concerning what you do best and see what it gets done. Well,
what it gets done is I think in some matrix
I've seen O you at two, and some matrixes i've
seen O you at one. But you have one of
the best defenses in the country, you know, with Brent
Vinnables at the helm there, that's exactly what oh you wanted.
Now you go from there to see what you can
do offensively. But as far as with the administration have
done for Brent, they put him in the best position
and Brent's made the most of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, he's done a great job for sure with
this circumstance.
Speaker 1: And with that being said, you know, the comparison that
I look at Jerry is, you know, for years growing up,
we sit there in a car and our parents are driving,
and we would turn sixteen. We don't automatically know how
to drive a vehicle just because we were in the
passenger's seat for all those years.
Speaker 2: You have to learn how to drive a car. When
I look at Brent Fennibles, there.
Speaker 1: Has been some mistakes, He's made some questionable decisions and
how he's been as a head coach, and he's kind
of had to learn how to be a head coach.
But now we're starting to see the fruits of his
labor payoff of you know, hey, I made those mistakes,
and it seems like he's learned from some of the
mistakes he made previously.
Speaker 5: I you know, I mean, I'm just going to push
back on that just a little bit and turn it
on you a little bit. Everybody's had to learn this
new system, I mean with the NIL, with the transfer
portal and how you have to have your program. No
one's safe and a couple of guys got out, like
you know, some of the big boys got out. Nick
Saman said, no, man, I have none to do with this.
You know, Brian Kelly didn't have a job right now.
It's just different guys don't understand how to do it
in this era. And you got to give Brent credit
for adjusting with it, assimilating to it. And the Oklahoma staff,
Like I said, I cannot say enough about Oklahoma's staff
and what they've done. Jim nagging Joe Costigan on the
way out. Mind you, there's a lighthearted search for a
new fle director just would be out in a couple
of years. But all that's going on. And what they
realized is we have to we have to re do
how we run our football program. And I think that
they've done an excellent job of figuring out how to
redo it. Think about this, Tyler, this is the third
offensive course leader he's had in the last three years. Yeah,
a team with that kind of turnover at that you
know at that position, they don't make the playoffs, man,
you know they don't. They don't get the high caliber quarterback.
And I know Material has had his problems after the
thumb injury, in particular, but they don't get those guys
with that kind of turnover at oh see. Yet somehow
Oklahoma's been able to do it. Vintable has been able
to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's done a great job on that front as
far as that goes. So you look at this defense
and you know it's a night and day difference from
the Lincoln Riley days of just how god awful those
defenses were into where Oklahoma's at now and so many guys.
I mean, they've done this the last couple of weeks
with even out their best defensive player in our Mason
Thomas here. I mean this is I know they'll use
identity under Bob Stoops and even Lincoln for all those years.
Speaker 2: It's about their offense. Jerry isn't just refreshing to see.
Speaker 1: I know that the offense has been so up and
down and of mostly down to be honest, and the
just refreshing to see an Oklahoma team, especially in this
this SEC, that lets their defense carry them like this.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's exactly what they had to do. You're
playing in the SEC, if they're in the Big twelve.
I don't know you know about this. I don't know
about this offense and defense, and you know, these guys
wouldn't even play for Oklahoma if they were still in
the Big twelve. Like part of the reason why they
played Oklahoma is because they know every single week they're
probably gonna match up again somebody that's gonna play on Sundays.
And that was the big thing about when Lincoln Riley
was you know, at the helm and with the defenses
or whatever. You can go after those guys, but there's
no way they're coming. They would rather go to a
Mississippi or a Florida or something like that rather than
Oklahoma because at least you got to play in the SEC.
Once Oklahoma got the SEC tag, then you started to
get those guys to come in and and they have
them by the you know, the buttload. That's an actual amount.
I don't know if you know that. I think it's
part of the metric system. But they got these guys
by the but lo. The depth on the defensive line
in particular is very very, very very good.
Speaker 2: So I was listening to Greg McElroy this week.
Speaker 1: He's called more OU games than any of the national
broadcasters out there, and he was saying that there's a
limit on what, oh, you can do because of where
their offense is at if they play a Notre Dame
in the first round, for example, he looked at Notre Dame,
a team that averages over forty points a game that, oh,
you can't go to toe toe to toe with a
team like that.
Speaker 2: Jerry, what say you you get to I know that
you would have a few weeks to prepare and have
some off time.
Speaker 1: But is so you have the right balance, you think
to compete with these playoff teams with their with their
offense and defenses.
Speaker 2: The offense good enough to hold its home.
Speaker 5: You think, right now, you know what a good offense is,
a good defense, and uh, tell me about how good
the offense a Tennessee was. I mean, I gulate dam
here puts up four hundred passing yards on him. They
won that one. They won that one by turning in
the ball, you know, turning the ball over, getting n
overs from tennis See, and just making the right places
at the right time. They beat Alabama. Alabama was pretty
good offensively against Oklahoma. They still figured out a way
to do that. Hardy had had three hundred yards rushing
the week before he plays Oklahoma, and somehow held him
under one hundred and won that game too. So when
a guy like McMurray says that, respect to that guy.
I mean, like you said, he's seen a lot of Oklahoma.
He knows what he's talking about with that. But it's
not about, you know, offense versus defense per se. It's situationally.
What kind of predicament can OU's defense put any offense in.
I love you said Notre Dame because that's you know,
my mouth is just ready to take a bite of
a Notre Dame Oklahoma sandwich. And we might get here
in the playoff, But it doesn't matter what the offense is.
I think that Brent Vinnibles can scheme against and be successful.
Like you talked about, the defense was not the problem
again Texas, the defense was not the problem against Old Miss.
I mean, there is a couple of misses there. But
I don't know if you've noticed, but both those teams
are pretty highly ranked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are very highly ranked. It's a great point,
John Metier.
Speaker 1: I know that he hasn't looked like the same quarterbacks
since the injury, but one thing I've noticed Jerry is
in the last few games he's not necessarily been a liability.
He's cut back on the turnovers and the mistakes like
we saw against Texas and Ole miss and all that,
you know, and he's made some big plays. You know,
we saw the touchdown that he had to Sitania. You know,
they're in the Missouri game with that if is this
version of John Mattier?
Speaker 2: Is this gonna be okay? And do you think this
version is here to stay or do you think, you know,
with some time off whatever, we.
Speaker 1: Could potentially get back to see in the version that
we saw back in September in the early portion of
the season.
Speaker 5: I think they's been handcuffed a little bit. That's my
own opinion. I think that our buckle and that offense
is being handcuffed a little bit. And I think that
you can I can pinpoint the play in Tennessee when
there was an RPO and he was given the you know,
the option to throw it. He throws the interception that
made things a little bit more uncomfortable for ou in
that game than it had to be. I think at
that moment that's when Brent sort of handcuffed that offense
and said, hey, look we are putting together gems here,
right son. We can we just keep it conservative, keep
it in front of us, and just move the chains right,
but don't turn the ball over. And with the quarterback
like Matia. The one thing we knew about my tea
coming in is the guy who was kind of a gunslinger,
and you saw that against Texas. Go back and watched
the Texas game and see how he has the freedom
to try to make some plays. And people will say, oh,
he was injured or whatever. No, I think that the
play calling was a little more liberal against Texas than
what it is now. So is it here to stay?
I think that Venables is a really good job of
trying to figure out what it takes to compete in
the game and get yourself to a point where you
can win the game. And that's the kind of a
tier that they will do. He was more of his
speet than his arm coming in. People kind of forgot that,
and that's what they're absolutely using right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. It's true. Jerry. The matchup with LSU
this weekend.
Speaker 1: I know that they've been through a lot of turmoil
since the Brian Kelly firing and everything, and really even
before that, but this is a team at one point
that was a top three team in America that does
have a lot of talented players to it. With that said,
like I don't know about you, I'm looking at this
game Saturday, I'm saying to myself, this team still can't
be taken lightly. Yes, they have their question marks and
their concerns, but this still, if we're looking at talent.
Speaker 2: Of the roster, I think, is still a top ten
roster on paper.
Speaker 1: What so you?
Speaker 5: I mean are you talking about LSU who always as
creatures of the night just in the locker room just
to pull out for nothing. I mean, these guys are
awesome as far as athletically. Yeah, you tell me a
bad LSU team, I'll just show you a team that's
sort of like giving up. It's not from lack of
talent by any means. They lose their quarterback there. You know,
before the season, people thought that he was going to
be at the Heisman ceremony. He's out. Well not I listen,
if he plays, there'll be a huge surprise around here.
I think they're going with the President van Buren. I
think that kid and Van Buren gives them a little bit,
gives them something that this miner doesn't. Against this OU defense,
he's a little fleet of foots. He can pick up
first downs, he can extend plays and what have you.
I know, Newsman had a really really good game last
year against Ou after a little bit of a slow start.
But I think that they're going with Van Buren and
I you know, to tell you the LSU might be
a check please, especially after Senior Night last week in LSU,
they might be a check here and just kind of
going through the motions. Just ask Western Kentucky about them
going through the motions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point, Jerry.
Speaker 1: If OU does pull this off and they hold on
to a top eight seed, it hosts a first round
playoff game. How big would that be to have a
playoff game in Norman in that atmosphere. I know that
the students I believe would be gone by then, but
I mean it's not too far for everybody still make
this trip. I would imagine that campus corner and everything
would still be popping. It'd be quite the scene there
at owen Field.
Speaker 5: It's not quite the two thousand Oklahoma's back statement against Nebraska,
but there's a weird back of the national spotlight sort
of feel. I think that this would give right there
where they belong. Especially and let me throw this out here,
especially if Texas does not make the playoff. I think
that that would make a lot of Suiter fans breathe easy,
kind of stump watching Tech just make it through the
ways of the playoffs last year, even though they didn't
get to where they wanted to go. It was kind
of stunt watching them succeed in the playoff. Yeah, Oklahoma
would absolutely love it. And two, if it is Notre Dame.
If it is Notre Dame, good, that's gonna break. It's
gonna break college football, man, like that is they make
movies about Oklahoma versus Notre Dame. I mean that excitement
level is just gonna be off the charts. Not just
for fans football like you and I not just your
fans that go to the stadium, but I mean everyday
housewives are gonna watch this, right, five year old kids
are gonna be inspired by this. You know, they're gonna
erect statues of whoever the hero of that game is
gonna be either at Notre Dame or Oklahoma. I think
I mean a little dramatic, but this is a Hallmark movie, bro.
This is ready to get things done. Notre Dame versus Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: If that's what happens all right last night the Senters,
then we'll ave lot here Jerry. Last year Ohio State
that won the national title as the eighth seed. If
the playoff began today, oklahall BA would be the eighth seed.
What do you think their ceiling is? Is this a
team that can be like Ohio State last year to
make a run and win the whole thing? What do
you think about their chances of going through this playoff
right now?
Speaker 5: No chance at all? What This defense is great, this
defense is fun, but the gauntlet of having to go
from Notre Dame to probably Ohio State and then the
national championship game. I was being kind of funny.
Speaker 2: Oh there's a semi final before that too.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So I'm just like, okay, yeah,
what a story that would be. Because think about this.
You are very familiar with YO program. Yes, you've been
around a long time. Okay, can you even come close
to the schedule in games that the Oklahoma football team
has played this year? I mean we're talking Michigan at
home right night, game Tennessee on the road to Alabama. Obviously,
you know you got oh you Texas. You throw that
in there, and then you would have a game against
Notre Dame, a game against Ohio State. Now I'm getting
into the money games with the semifinals, finals and all
that stuff. Bro, No, this would this would be the
quintessential oh you season. Barry Switcher never did anything like this,
Bob soupshers Hell didn't do anything like this. Like we're talking,
this would be a monumental, monumental season to happen, and
I just don't see it. They got They gotta be
a little more complimentary than they are. They're kind of
top heavy with the defense. If they're a little more complimentary,
I would tell you they can make a strong run
if they got through Notre Dame, which that would be
shutting down uh who psibly could win the Heisman a
Heisman Trophy winning running back there. Then they'd have to
run into Ohio State. Oh and then after that, I man,
I yeah, don't see it, Man, just don't see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's a very successful
season already, And not to take on a moral.
Speaker 1: Victory mentality, but anything after this point it just feels
like gravy. Once they get to that home game in
the Coachball Playoff. If they can make that happen, let's
move on and head north to Stillwater. There is a
new head coach of the Oklahoma State Cowboys.
Speaker 2: His name is Eric Morris. Comes over from North Texas.
Speaker 1: He's worked with some great quarterbacks from Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes,
cam Ward.
Speaker 2: John Mattire, among others.
Speaker 1: What do you think of the hire to begin the
post Mike Gundi era with Eric Morris coming to Oklahoma
State here.
Speaker 5: Jerry, A lot of people said Eric Morris is a
home run higher. I don't know. I think he's more
of a ground rule double with your three and four
hitters coming up, so there's a chance to be successful
sitting there on second base. But also I don't think
it's a home run hit by any means. He's a
guy coming from North Texas, and if he brings his
quarterback with him, who's an absolute stud, a young kid
that can grow with them, that's what you need. You
need offense in the Big twelve. But I think it's
a It's a breath of fresh air for Oklahoma. They've
had a lot of Oklahoma State, they've had a lot
of bad news in the last couple of years. So
just to see this young upstart, think with the kids
forty years old, so to have a younger coach come
in and kind of take the reins. Boy, I hope
he acclimates the stillwater. Also, I hope he doesn't use
this as a stairstep because if he is successful, unfortunately
for Oklahoma State and he doesn't have the ground roots
that you know, I mean, they've had gotten me for years,
So what is there to say? Also, coming in after
a legend, like you know, this, coming in after a legend,
it's tough.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: And I talked to a good friend of mine, Eric
Bailey from the Toll World Yes, and he said that,
you know, this year is a good buffer year because
Gundy was fired so early in the year, but still
coming in after a legend, having to reconstruct what they're
going to need at Oklahoma State. Think about this. Gundhy
said in the Big twelve media days that this is
the most money Okahoma State had ever spent on the roster.
Speaker 2: Yikes, so you know, you know it wasn't very much money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're coming in, You're gonna to replace all that,
So we'll see. I think that the Oklahoma State fan
base has proven more to me this year than ever before,
true and loyal. I mean, they showed up to the games,
they knew what was going to happen. They were the
original ones and started with the tarps off and their
shirts in the air doing all that stuff. I thought
that was awesome. So that fan base deserves a winner,
and I hope he gives it to him.
Speaker 2: I hope so too. And you look at what's going
on there the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: Texas Tech has had a great year and they got
a lot of money going for them, but there still
hasn't been a team that's the clear cut favorite to
take the reins for a long time. Texas Tech could
potentially be that this is just one good year so far.
With that said, I mean, I know that they have
their financial issues, but Jerry, there is still a window
for Oklahoma State in that Big twelve conference even if
they don't have the money with Texas Tech or Kansas,
if you have the right coach there, with their facilities
in other things, there there's no reason why they can't
be I think at least a seven or eight win
team every year if the right guy's still heading up
this program.
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be uphill client, I mean Texas Tech,
like you said, by Utah, I mean these Arizona schools
were way better than people anticipated coming into the Big twelve.
If Colorado can get their act together, right, like you
have a lot of teams that are staking there to
claim Houston made a play this year on being a
very good team. I'm just man, this is it was
amazing to me that Oklahoma State could be irrelevant this quickly.
That bothered me. That bothered me that Oklahoma State was
that irrelevant that quick So I hear you're optimistic on
that and saying that, But man, oh man, oh man,
I don't. I don't believe that it's going to be
that easy of a climb for them, especially like as
you said, you know, in this era it takes money.
Texas Tech has it, b yu they have Yeah, oh
good as well, poor kid, listen, I will see, we'll
see what happens with just well, basketball is hurting right now.
I don't even want to get into that. Basketball is
hurting right now. So it's it's it's kind of up
in the air with that. But I'm a firm believer
in Texas Tech BYU And like I said, I think
those Arizona schools are going to bite you if you
don't pay attention. So I think Oklahoma State has a
hill to climb in the next couple of years to
get back to irrelevant much less big Control Championship aspirations.
Speaker 2: Are you excited about Luke Combs coming to the Norman
next year?
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's interesting. Okay, Am I
a fan of it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: Fast Car was written by Tracy Chapman and it will
always be a Tracy Chapman song. I get. I get
the pl though I saw you too at Memorial Stadium.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Was it.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 5: I got a crazy story about that. Uh yeah, Uh.
Speaker 2: Black Eyed Peas opened for Okay, we were, we were
one date.
Speaker 5: Away from news they they had gone from Dallas to
Norman and in Dallas, muse it opened up for you too,
but we end up getting Fergie so anywhere.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: But I I the Rolling Stones and YouTube it played there,
and I feel like that stadium was reserved for those
sort of legendary artists. You know, I is Luke Comb's
the same category as the Rolling Stones and you two.
I mean, that's a hard past. That's a hard past.
Speaker 2: Sorry, see where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: But when they did a pregame concert the spring game
with Trace Adkins, I'm like, this is a major step up?
Speaker 5: Is it a step up from Trace Afkins? Everybody is
a step up from Listen, I'm the biggest hockey talk
but Donk and Donk is the next guy. But your
your reach was above Trace Afkins. Come on, man, come on. Uh,
Like I said, I legend legendary concert at legendary place.
Does Luke Combs fit the bill? I don't. I don't. Hey,
you know what the uh? I kind of owe you
coffycatting what they're doing up there, boom Pickens. Uh, those
are Boys of Oklahoma concerts. I heard, I heard. I
I don't think I'm I'm I'm of age to hang anymore,
but I heard those things were wild, and I would
I would rather attend a Boys of Oklahoma boom Pickens
than a Luke Comb's Memorial Stadium.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. I can't believe that Oshu still hasn't
gotten Garth to perform at uh.
Speaker 5: I can't. I mean, if you if you've seen and
read about how Garth goes. Garth is all business bro right,
Garth is that that's that's a tough nut to crack,
lucky nuts. I've only seen him once, and I saw
him whenever he was kind of doing this uh juke
joint place. I saw him at the oh gosh, what
is that place called?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: And like punk bands and rock bands play there out
there by Midwest City. He played the Diamond Ballroom.
Speaker 2: I saw him one time at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln. Oh.
Speaker 5: That's a good that's a nice, little quaint joint friend
to go to.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was the first.
Speaker 1: Fun fact, it was the first time ever Memorial Stadium
sold alcohol.
Speaker 5: That makes sense. I think they're having that alcohol there
since what Schnellenberger came for the rest game.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: On that note, Jerry, before we sign off here, go
ahead and plug away where people can find you and
see all the stuff you're doing.
Speaker 5: Man, Oh, I'm just just TV's Jerry doing TV's Jerry's stuff.
You can catch me. Eleven to one I do a
show with Daniel Bell, who covers the ol Clones Cyate
Thunder pretty pretty well himself. And then from one to
three I'm doing shows with Kelly Gregg still chomping up
the bit with the franchise players. Still got a rock
show going, so I got a hip hop show going.
Speaker 3: So it is what it is.
Speaker 5: I try to stay busy because if you're not busy,
you're gonna die.
Speaker 1: It's Jerry Rams and check him out with the franchise
in Oklahoma City. Jerry, thanks for joining us, and we'll
talk him down the line.
Speaker 5: Thank you, you appreciate it.
Speaker 1: But