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Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve that's you, you break down

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top but this year with you, with the confidences, playbooks,

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BIX twelve and Southeastern conferences. Tom, this sad time.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I know it's rivalry week, but it's the last week

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of the College roll regular.

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Speaker 3: Season already, and I'm kind of thankful.

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Speaker 1: I'll be frank like, this is the only sport that

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the postseason is significantly worse than the regular season. And

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so for me, I'm like everybody's like, oh, You're ready

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for Glserol Playoff. No, No, I'm not. Actually, I'm not

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looking forward to the Gala Swell Playoff. I enjoy the

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regular season more so. With that said, it's almost coming

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to an end. But we have plenty of hot takes,

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plenty of corners around the globe to span of where

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we could uh be go with our hot takes this week,

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and uh where I will head to this week?

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Speaker 2: Tom on my.

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Speaker 1: Hot tag, I am going to go to the land

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of Agis, Texas A and m ageas that is. And

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Mike Elco has done a very good job this season.

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They are undefeated, they're well on their way to the

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SEC title game and everything. But Tom, I feel like

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I can confidently say the Texas A and M is

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going to get handled their first loss this season, either

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Friday against Texas or next week in the SEC championship game.

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Speaker 2: One of the two. I think all good things must

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come to an end.

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M should have lost South Carolina a

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couple of weeks ago. They've played a cupcake schedule in

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the SEC. They had a good non conway in that

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notre name. I'll give them that. That's a big deal.

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But I think that Texas A and M is about

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to get caught, and I think the things could go

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downhill from there that I see an early exit from

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the playoff in their horizon. I am not buying into

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Texas A and M right now.

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Speaker 3: Tom Bendon, Barcel Reid, I think he's okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's great. I don't think you can

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win a national championship with Marcell Reid.

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Speaker 3: Who was the quarterback for A and M drafted by

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the Vikings a couple of years ago. Josh Johnson, I'm

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trying to think he was around when maybe it was

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like twenty nineteen. He reminds me, I mean pretty much

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the same build. You could almost say the same pretty

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much the same guy was drafted by the Kendall Mann

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Kellen mand Marcel Reed, Kellen cold Man. Yes, it reminds

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me kind of the same type of guy. I thought

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that I was. I was just there.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually the Bramas are gone, so I don't know

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where he plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say I thought they took the promise.

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I passed by Alan Mondome this morning at six am.

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Funny enough, but yeah, you know, I've called for Adam's

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head all seas and I was like, they're gonna choke

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at some point. It's it's tradition, right, and A and

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first loss. Uh in d k R this weekend. I think,

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you know, Arch played well last week. That's not saying

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a whole lot because who they played, but but it's

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in Arkansas. But that being said, I think I think

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and him for what it is, I think they've had

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a good year, right, I think that had a great year.

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know exactly who just yet, but they might lose that firepower,

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and they'll have to replace it. I think Elco's good

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enough coach to do it. Do you think Jones I

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North Texas fans are all on Twitter just like, yeah,

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screwer Morris. I can't believe you left. We were building

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something special. Do you think Duke fans rep raying him?

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Speaker 2: I think that Duke fans just don't care about college football.

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don't say building something there, but they were a little

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bit better when he was there. I wouldn't say making

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crazy noise, but they were watchable.

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Speaker 2: Don't really care what Duke fans think. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, uh yeah, I'm both you and I are

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both on the same page. A loss is coming sooner

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than later for I am not a title contending team.

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Speaker 1: You can acknowledge that A and M's had in the

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right direction Elko has done a good job, but there

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Speaker 2: Are gonna catch up to them at some point, and

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where do you want to go for a hot take

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Speaker 3: Can I go to Stillwater?

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Speaker 2: I'm We're literally about to go there in a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, let me swap up here.

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Speaker 1: We're about to go to Oxford, We're about to go

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Speaker 2: So by all means, there's a lot of different places

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I'm gonna give you my hot

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take this week, and I think you'll like this one.

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I think you'll like this one a lot. I'm gonna

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go to Lawrence on Black Friday, Utah struts into Lawrence.

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victory to go bowling? And in a year the KU

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probably thought they were gonna be a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: Coulda be his last game Saturday or for Friday.

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Speaker 3: Yep, could be it's not gonna be though. Kansas is

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going to upset the utah Utes and Lawrence and they're

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gonna go bowling, and it's gonna eliminate Utah and we're

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out in Arlington. Ku is going to beat Utah. I'm

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gonna say thirty one and Ku is going bowling.

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Speaker 2: K State almost big Utah last week.

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Speaker 1: Utah gave him a lot of points and as a

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result fell in the couch Ball playoff rankings.

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Speaker 3: Case they in case they did give him a hell

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of a run.

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Speaker 2: So it's not impossible, but I think it's unlikely. I'm

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not getting my hopest.

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Speaker 3: That's why it's hot, baby, That's why it's hot. That's

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why it's sound unlike You're unlike, unlike your previous Thanksgiving foods.

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Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, too soon? Yeah, all right. Now, let's let's

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go one by one. Let's start in Oxford Slash Baton

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rouge Lane Kiffin. What's he gonna do? Where's he gonna go?

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Speaker 1: There was a survey that came out that Brett McMurphy,

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America's College Football Insider, put out asking eighty different college

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football media members where they think Lane Kiffin is going

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to go. Fifty seven of them said LSU, only seventeen

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said he was going to remain with Old Miss.

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Speaker 2: Some said he was going to go to the Tennessee Titans.

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that job's not even open right now. But here's the circumstance,

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all right for folks trying to keep up Old Miss.

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Speaker 1: Win in the egg Bowl this week, they could be

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playing for an SEC title and they would lock up

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a spot in the collegetball playoff. We said win, uh,

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and they might already be locked in all things considered,

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Speaker 2: All right, But with that said, Ole Miss is in

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a really good spot.

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Speaker 1: And that is a team that is not just a

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playoff team, but a national championship contending team. Uh. You

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know Trinidad, you know, Shameless has been really good at

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the quarterback spot, the defense has been solid. There's a

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lot to like about Old Miss team. And now you know,

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Lane's got apparently a ninety million dollar offer from LSU

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right there, And Tom, I really don't know how this

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this last week. I said, I think he's going to LSU,

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leave for LSU right before at SEC title game, right

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before contending in the College Sewall playoff?

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Speaker 2: Can he really leave his team hind dry like that?

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Speaker 1: And the situation at Old Miss, He's got total job security.

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mentioned this team's gonna be a contender for the national

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title this year. You got all you want right now

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if you're laying kiffing Old Miss. But LSU that's one

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of the best jobs in the country. I know that

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their administration has been unstable as of late, but it's

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a recruiting hot bed. You got a lot of resources,

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got a ton of money to work with. It is

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a better job than Old Miss. But every coach that

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takes that job eventually gets fired. Brian Kelly the only

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one in recent memory that did not win a national championship.

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Speaker 2: Tom, I don't know how that's gonna play out.

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Speaker 1: But I sit here and I say, if I were laying,

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it's it's fair to say it would be a scumbag

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move to leave Old Miss right now and take that

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LSU job. You know Ole Miss is not gonna let

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him stay and be a short term head coach. Wall

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going to the LSU job, you know they're gonna say,

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pack your bags and get the hell out of here

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if he's gonna have takeing the LSU job right away.

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did those things. But you look at Lane Kiffin and

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how he's made his moves in the past, it would

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be par for the course. Like if anybody is gonna

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be scumback enough to leave this situation, it'd be it'd

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be Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I would if I was Lane Kiffin.

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you gotta run with what you built. I think a

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lot of people thought after Jackson Dark left, I thought,

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for old miss than last year?

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Speaker 2: It is it has been better.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, okay, like sure, like like

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isn't always greener. Yeah, And I think if you go

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over to another past year that looks green and you

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find out it's artificial turf, uh, then you might upset

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Less Miles, right, and you might not. So let's both

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let Less Miles. Was he eating the grass at LSU?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That was his thing? So let's let's both do this. Tom,

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Speaker 1: On the count of three, you and I both say

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where we think Lane Kiffin is gonna coach next year?

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Speaker 2: One two three, l.

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Speaker 3: S U cut out? Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I hear you? Now that that exercise didn't work out

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so well, I said Tom. On the count of one.

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Speaker 1: On the count of one, two three, both of us

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say where we think Lane Kiffin is gonna coach next year?

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Speaker 3: One I heard the one or I didn't hear? The

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question is what I didn't hear because it cut out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, one two three, l s U Miss Okay, all right,

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in that, but I think he's gonna end up going

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Speaker 3: I gotta he's gonna stay.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the other question.

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Speaker 1: What should he do if he's If we're Lane Kiffin,

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where should he coach next year? One two three, Ole

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page in that one. I think Tom like it's one

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and flirting with leaving Old Miss. Eventually he's got to

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flirt and take that job, right. That's that to me, Like,

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there's got to be a breaking point here and in

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Speaker 4: We talked about this last week. They gave him an ultimatum.

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They said, we need a decision by this date. And

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that's not the messaging. If you're old Miss, you should

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be saying here. You should be on your knees begging,

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pleading with Lane Kiffin to stay, because there is nobody

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out there that's gonna be as good as Lane Kiffin

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for Old Miss. I think Old Miss Tom, even though.

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Speaker 1: I think Lane should stay at Old Miss, and that's

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the better job for him, you know, and all things considered,

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I don't think Old Miss is necessarily and that's the

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right way themselves.

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Speaker 3: What say you, No, Yeah, they shouldn't. I think they

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should be. I wouldn't say begging. You don't want to

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seem desperate, but I think you do have to instill

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some boundaries there in terms of like, hey, listen, it's

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kind of like you take your girlfriend out and a

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bunch of dudes are checking her out at the bar

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and you're like, okay, enjoy the attention or whatever, but

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don't reciprocate Lane Kifvin's been reciprocating, and if you're the boyfriend,

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which you're in this case, it'd be Old Miss. At

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some point you got to say, okay, screw then, we don't,

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we don't want you anymore. If Lane Kivin is gonna

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be a hoe, then maybe Lane Kiffen's for the streets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Maybe at some point, at some point you gotta have

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some self respect and say, you know what, fuck you

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like Givin, We'll get well, yeah, we'll do something. We'll

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we'll get it, We'll get right somehow. You go off

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to l s U and be a whore for Mike

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the Tiger.

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Speaker 2: Right still Water.

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Speaker 1: Eric Morris is the new head coach of the Oklahoma

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State Cowboys. He's gonna finish out the year with North Texas.

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That could be a conference title game, that could be a.

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Speaker 2: Collegetball playoff appearance, potentially uh for Eric Morris.

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Speaker 1: Great QB track record, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes, cam Ward,

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John Matteer.

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Speaker 2: He's been a winner everywhere. He's been a brilliant offensive mind. Tom.

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Speaker 1: I like the high for Oklahoma State, and I give

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Chad Weiberg credit here. Everybody in Stillwater was pushing him

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to make the move to go against Zach Robinson, to

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bring Zach home, and there would have been a timetable

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because you would have had to wait till January, till

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the NFL season was over with in order to do so,

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and you got the transfer portal window opening up, you

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got early signing day opening up.

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Speaker 2: That would have put Oklahoma State behind the eight ball.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention, he doesn't have college coaching experience and

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his offenses aren't doing so hot with the Atlanta Falcons

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right now. Anyway, they go get a proven coach that's

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one that knows offense that's recruited that area at a

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high level.

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Speaker 2: I think they did a really good job. I don't

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know for certain.

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Speaker 1: I can't say without a shadow of a doubt that

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Eric Morris is a home run higher. But I can

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look at that and say that they made the best of.

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Speaker 2: The situation that they could have. I like to move.

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What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm over the moon. To be honest with you,

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I'm absolutely over the moon.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think between Alex Golish and Eric Morris, those are

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my well, at first, I'll be honest with you, was

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g J. Kenney from Texas State when they first fired

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Mike Gundy, and then after kind of reviewing the situation,

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and then after the year the USF has had and

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the year that North Texas has had compared to Texas

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State then and looking at the you know, looking at

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the I don't know the tributaries of the coaching stream,

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right you look at Golish. I think Alex Golish was

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a graduate assistant in Oklahoma State. I didn't know that

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met his wife at Oklahoma State. There's ties there. You

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have ties with Chad Weiberg and Eric Morris back at

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Texas Tech. And there's there's you know what we talked

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about it today. There are further ties that Eric Morris

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was a wide receiver on Texas Tech when Gundy went

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on a ham a man on forty rant. I mean

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that's just a little fun, you know, tidbits there. But

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there are other ties there. And you look at what

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Eric Morris can and will bring to Oklahoma State. He

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has a top ten quarterback, His offensive proudness is awesome.

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He sounds like he's gonna bring the d C. Skyler Cassidy,

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who is a brother to Braidon Cassidy, who is a

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former well known cowboy back at Oklahoma State. Braid Cassidy four,

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your guy, well loved and still water. I mean, the

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ties are there right but because they said the ties

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that bind, and and they're binding right now, and I

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am I am for one. I'm I'm super excited. I

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think there's nothing better that could happen to o SU

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this weekend. If they beat Iowa State, You're gonna see

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an OSU fan base come from the bottom of the basement,

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like where Bain came from, like uh from Dark Knight,

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like I was bowling in the darkness. You only you know,

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it's like I was molded by it. Well, you know,

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it's like coming like it's like the killer or Whoever's

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like coming out of my cage. And I've been doing

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just fine. We're gonna be the issue is gonna be

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back next season? Jones, you can book it right now.

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Are they gonna go to the Big Twelve title game

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next year? Probably not. Are they gonna go bowling next year?

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I think so.

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Speaker 2: Bowling I think is capable. I think that certainly within

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the Roman possibility.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's see them win a Big Twelve game for

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the first time in two years to be a step

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in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: I feel like when we flip scripts here that used

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to be you with Kansas. Yeah, now the turn the

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tables of turn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's see they do that first and then

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we can talk about them going to a Bowl game.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I like to hire. I think they have

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some money issues that they still need to overcome.

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Speaker 1: You got to spend to win. We've seen teams work

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well with less, but you know, what, what are they

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gonna do? Is the money going to show up?

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Speaker 2: Can they do that?

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Speaker 1: You still have to be able to have the money

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and right, I mean, say, what do you want about

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my Gundy? And I think Mike Gandy did a pissport

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job the last couple of seasons.

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Speaker 2: But there's only so much you can do with.

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Speaker 1: A lack of resources there and that's got to improved

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too for Oklahoma State. But we'll see how things go

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on at that front Arkansas. At the time of this recording,

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Tom's still looking for a new head coach. We've heard

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Gowich at South Florida seems to be a leading candidate.

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Silver Field at Memphis is another possibility. You know, John

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Summroll's name has been mentioned. You know, there's there's a

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lot of possible abilities. I mean, even Ed Orgeron has

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his name's popped up. But one thing I've heard talking

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to some Arkansas people, uh Hunter Yersic their ad has

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looked like a clown as the head of the Kyle

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Show playoff committee.

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Speaker 2: Uh, he tried to. He did a stupid six seven

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joke the other night on ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Mike. I don't think they're related.

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Speaker 2: A different spell believe, but he had a stupid joke

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about six seven.

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Speaker 1: His uh, his rationale for the ranking, especially like when

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he comes to Miami and Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty off base the the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has looked like a moron, and Arkansas

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fans have seen that he is a moron the last

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couple of seasons.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And now people are getting first hand look at it

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a national TV and I think that that might be.

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Speaker 2: Turning some people off. Potentially, that might be making that

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job situation worse.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Dad to that time, like your I'm watching

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it right now. This is whatever his name is, just

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under sixty seven.

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Speaker 1: This this guy, like you're supposed to be heading a

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coaching search right now. And he took a promotion to

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head the college football playoff Committee. I'm like, why are

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you even on the college footballo offf committee to begin with?

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Go hire a coach, Like, I think this.

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Speaker 2: Is looking like a rough situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then in his interview where he did at

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the six seven, you know he's wearing the he's wearing

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a oh my god, that's horrible. He's wearing the infamous

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tan suit. God that was Noah, that was a little

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out of touch. Yeah, that's bad Jones. I'm I'm gonna

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I'm gonna ask you this and remove the SEC brand

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just who would you m hmm. I think I know

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you're gonna choose, but I just have to ask it

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conferences aside better job Oklahoma State or Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Well, we know Arkansas's got more money and they have

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better facilities. I think Arkansas's better shot.

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Speaker 3: But who's going to be better in the next five years?

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Next five years? That's that's just kind of have the

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way to see Arkansas high. Yeah, we'll see Arkansas hires first.

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That job is looking dysfunctional.

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Speaker 2: I would say, who would have thought? We didn't even

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know that.

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Speaker 1: Chad Weiberg had a job about two months ago. And

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right now the still water looks a lot more stable

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than they do in fade Ville at the moment. So

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that roller coaster that in itself is a bit of a.

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Speaker 2: Surprise there as far as all that goes at this point.

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All right, let's look at the you.

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Speaker 3: Have to mention the last thing. I have to mention

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last thing before we go on this. I'm a little sad. Well,

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I'm not sad. I'm happy for that Oklahoma State got

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Eric Morris. I'm a little sad that the coaching search

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is over. Yeah, a little bit right, And I will

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say this because all I've ever known is Mike Gundy,

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and kind of the same way for San Antonio Spurs,

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all I ever knew was Greg Popovich, right, and there

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wasn't a necessary coaching search to to go get Mitch.

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But it's kind of like the Spurs when they finally

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you know, this is the first draft lottery I ever

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saw the Spurs, And this is like the first time

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I ever saw you know, Oklahoma State and the coaching carousel.

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And as bad as Oklahoma State is, that was like

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the only thing giving me excitement this season around Oklahoma State.

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And so I'm a little sad it's over. And it

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was exciting and it was like, ooh, the rumors going around,

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Oh they're saying Colin Klein or saying Zach Robinson. Golish

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fucking John Gruden was on the on the bet list,

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and it was fun and it was good. But I'm

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gonna tell you this, I hope I don't ever have

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to go through the coaching search as a fan of

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Oklahoma State for like at least ten another ten years. Yeah,

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it was fun while it lasted.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the memories. Let's go ahead and talk about these.

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Speaker 1: Latest couchrowball Paaloff Frankings to start with the Big twelve

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teams tack at five, b YU and eleven, Utah thirteen,

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Arizona State at twenty, and then Arizona at twenty five. Tom,

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looking at the Big twelve front Texas Tech, I think

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you win this finale, this regular season finale this week,

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and we'll talk about this game more in a moment.

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Against West Virginia, you're locked in the playoffs, You're set.

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You might already be locked in, but you're definitely locked

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in with a win this week. BYU, I think because

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of you know where they sit, they they probably need

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to win out. They probably need to win the Big

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twelve and beg Texas Tech head to head in a

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rematch to get in.

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Speaker 2: Utah. It's not looking good.

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Speaker 1: They they're gonna need some help essentially, and then you know,

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Arizona State and Arizona are just happy to be ranked

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at this point.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's what we're looking at.

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Speaker 3: Tom.

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Speaker 1: You know those those teams, It's Tech seems to be

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the only one that's really in great shape. I think

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you know BYU and Utah like by you still I'll

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say this if you're a BYU fan, here's your silver lining.

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Speaker 2: You still control your own destiny. Utah is gonna need

473
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,440
a ton of help.

474
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not gonna get it from Tech, And

475
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:10,720
I don't think they're gonna get it from b YU.

476
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:14,519
To be honest, I think you gotta be hoping and

477
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:19,279
wishing to waiting. I mean, u CF is gonna play

478
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,640
b YU in provo. U c F was lucky to

479
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:29,559
beat Oklahoma State last week. You know who's Oh, Tech

480
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:33,839
plays in Morgantown, but it's eleven am. It's not even

481
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:41,920
a spooky Morgantown. So for for Utah, you gotta take

482
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,640
care of business against Kansas. What's already picked Kansas, and

483
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,799
you're gonna need one of those two teams to lose.

484
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then need to win the Big twelve championship

485
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:58,000
more than likely. Yeah, Right, So it's a long road there. Meanwhile,

486
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,119
the SEC front A and M no matter what happens,

487
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,880
they're in at eleven and zero. They're in great shape

488
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:06,839
as a number three seed George at ten to one.

489
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:10,000
Even if they lose George Tech this week, that's not

490
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,200
a bad loss. I think George is probably still in

491
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,079
the playoff. They're in good shape there. George is in

492
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,200
a good position. Oklahoma beat LSU this week. They're not

493
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,039
gonna be in the SEC title game, but I think

494
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,559
they win and that guarantees them a first round by

495
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:27,279
and the Sooners are looking really good.

496
00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:30,039
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about the Sooners Jerry Ramsey coming up

497
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:30,680
in just a moment.

498
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: Alabama at nine and two Iron Bowl can get a

499
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,720
little bit spooky. We've seen that in the past, but

500
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,480
I think if they win this, they're in. I don't

501
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,920
think you can penalize BEMA if they lose in the

502
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:47,039
SEC Championship, whether that's the A and M or Old Miss,

503
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,160
even if it is a third loss. I don't think

504
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,200
you can be penalized for getting to your conference championship

505
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,559
game as far as that goes. Vandy at nine and

506
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,720
two probably gonna need some help where they're at sitting

507
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,319
at four. Team Texas I think at eight and three

508
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,759
is out of the conversation. Tennessee out at eight and three,

509
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,160
at nineteen and there's your look at your SEC teams

510
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,880
at this point. But Tom, I think that we sit

511
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,759
here at A and M. Georgia, oh, you and Bama

512
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,240
seemed to be in really good shape, and uh, I

513
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:25,359
would I would guess that Vandy is the only one

514
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,519
really outside that group that's got a chance from the.

515
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: SEC at this point.

516
00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: Not only hope they do. At this point, I'm kind

517
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,079
of rooting on the underdog Vandy to get in. It's

518
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,160
been a great, great, like two year story for them.

519
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:46,000
I know, Diego Pavilla, you know, I think didn't he

520
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,160
like trying to get another year of eligibility.

521
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:49,759
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing now.

522
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,039
Speaker 3: Who knows? Who knows? I hope they I hope they do.

523
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,880
If if Slash one you has a first round home

524
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:09,079
playoff game, you're going, right, uh yeah, absolutely? Who what?

525
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:10,240
Who would they face?

526
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 5: Right now?

527
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:11,359
Speaker 3: Notre Dame?

528
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: Right now?

529
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:15,759
Speaker 1: You would play Notre Dame. The ESPN Playoff predictor says

530
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:17,799
their most likely scenario is to move up to the

531
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,240
five seed and play North Texas in the opening round.

532
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: That would be I might just i't just in O

533
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,359
s usta. It's like a is that like a consolation bedlam?

534
00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: I guess the closest thing will get for a while, potentially.

535
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,319
Speaker 1: All right, let's go through the big twelve slide of games. Uh,

536
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,640
here we go, Rapid Fire, Utah and Ku Tom's already

537
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,319
picked Utah.

538
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm going with Utah.

539
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,279
Speaker 3: It's no faith, no faith.

540
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:56,799
Speaker 2: I don't have any faith, no faith. I don't feel

541
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:57,960
good about this at all.

542
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: I think Utah, you know, had that Case State game

543
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,440
not happened last week, then I'll be like, Okay, maybe

544
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,279
KYU catches them.

545
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: Looking I think that game should have woken up you

546
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:08,519
Doah more than.

547
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:12,079
Speaker 3: Likely Tyree kill for a kicked six.

548
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,559
Speaker 1: Then the Territorial Cup on Friday night, number twenty five, Arizona,

549
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:24,319
number twenty Arizona states. Arizona favored in this game. Tom,

550
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,279
we know samu Levant's out, Jordan Tyson's out. No fa

551
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:35,880
Fida his last game. I think I lean towards Arizona here,

552
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,240
but I can see this going either way. I don't

553
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,519
believe in Jeff Simms. I think Fafida goes out with

554
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:39,839
a bank.

555
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Arizona too, No Levett, Yeah.

556
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Tech taking on West Virginia. Tom, this one of thing's

557
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,880
over by the first quarter.

558
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,559
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Text gonna take care of business and UH

559
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,400
start having Arlington dreams.

560
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,119
Speaker 1: This is an ass whappon Houston tay on Baylor rivalry game,

561
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,319
Uh Baylor two and that point favorites. They're trying to

562
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:10,359
get both eligible. Tom, I think Houston Squeaks went out.

563
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,559
Speaker 2: I expect this to be close though.

564
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Houston as well. Baylor's gonna retain Miranda.

565
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,720
We'll see if it pays off.

566
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Uh. Colorado taking on Kansas State. The Cats almost pulled

567
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,880
one off last week against Utah. They're five and six,

568
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,920
Colorado three and eight. Uh.

569
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,599
Speaker 2: Tom k stayed at home. Need this one to get

570
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:34,440
to a bowl game, get to the Fort Worth Bowl

571
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:35,200
or whatever it is.

572
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:35,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

573
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: Colorado's got major issues. I like k State big.

574
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'll take case State as well. They looked good

575
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,559
against Utah last week. They'll they'll do it this week.

576
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: Iowa State seven and four are going to still Water

577
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:54,920
take on one inten Oklahoma State, I would state, too

578
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,880
many injuries. This isn't the year they wanted of what

579
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:01,240
could have been. But you finished out and four. That's

580
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:05,920
not a bad season. Oklahoma State. I think that he's

581
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,840
not gonna be the head he's Uh. I would say

582
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,400
that for Oklahoma State. This is the last kind of

583
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,880
audition of sorts like Doug Meacham. If he wants to

584
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,880
stick around the name to watch. I think it's Clint Bowen. Uh.

585
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: I know Clint very well, former interim head coach at

586
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,840
KUS defensive coordinator.

587
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,119
Speaker 1: They're under David Beatty and work on Less Miles' staff

588
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:30,280
as well. He's impressed me what he's done there with

589
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,519
that defense there and still Water. If they have a

590
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:37,760
decent showing here, Eric Morris paying attention there, Clint Bowen

591
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,280
should should be considered to stick around.

592
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,199
Speaker 3: I think, probably think they will. Every week they've gotten better.

593
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:49,440
There's just little little mistakes, little blips that end up

594
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,760
costing them in the game. I think if if God

595
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,480
is good, Oklahoma State will win this week. They'll get

596
00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:01,559
it done. Give me o'club with State by one hundred.

597
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: UCF taking on b YU BYU seventeen and a half

598
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,360
point favorites. They need this one trying to get to

599
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,159
the Big twelve championship. B YU bear Bachmeyron Company.

600
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: I like them big.

601
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh yeah. I think easily.

602
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: Since he and TCU both teams at seven and four,

603
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,079
both teams are going bowling. This game is in Fort Worth,

604
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:24,719
TCU four and a half point favorites.

605
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: I think Hooper game.

606
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: I think TCU wins. They put up a lot of

607
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:30,840
points here.

608
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: I think it's mad close. I think it's I think

609
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,960
TCU wins, but it could be one of those you

610
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:39,960
said four and a half a half I think, I think.

611
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,719
I think since he could cover this, I think this

612
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,000
is gonna be the best game of the week in

613
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:46,960
the Big twelve.

614
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: The Egg Bowl, Old Misstate on Mississippi State.

615
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,039
Speaker 1: Tom, if Lane Kiffin is truly leaving, I could see

616
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:55,360
them slipping up and losing this game in Mississippi State

617
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,320
and then just making that exit ramp a little easier.

618
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,800
Jeff Levy's team has played pretty decent compared to what

619
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,360
was expected. They're five and six. I think Mississippi State's

620
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,320
got a chance, but I still like.

621
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: Ole miss.

622
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: Mississippi State has played well this season.

623
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:17,119
Speaker 1: Georgia and Georgia Tech in Atlanta at Mercedes Benz Stadium.

624
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:20,400
Georgia thirteen and a half point favorites. This game went

625
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,599
to eight overtimes last year george Tech nearly one. Tom,

626
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,159
I like Georgia, but in a close.

627
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: Game, yeah, I think. I think I like Georgia too,

628
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,599
but can never out of count O hayenes King, he's

629
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:36,760
a baller, He's uh. He didn't get enough credit. I

630
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,000
think it's gonna be a tight game.

631
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,119
Speaker 1: The Lone Star Showdown. Last year, Bevo was banned from

632
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,000
college station. In retaliation, the Longhorns have banned Texas A

633
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:53,719
and M dog mascot revel I had a Friday's matchup

634
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,639
no dogs allowed from A and M and M one

635
00:36:56,679 --> 00:36:59,119
and a half point favorites. Marcel Reid gone up against

636
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,360
arch Manning. Texas offense has looked better, Art has played

637
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:06,440
pretty well in the last few weeks. They're sending today

638
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:08,679
and three Texas A and M trying to finish a

639
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,920
perfect regular season.

640
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: Here, Tom, I'll go A and M. But I'll go

641
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,719
A and M close.

642
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go opposite. I'm gonna take Texas.

643
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,519
Speaker 1: Okay, Saturday Slate, let's roll through these real quick. Kentucky

644
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:29,920
and Louisville. Tom Mark Stoops trying to get Bowl eligible here.

645
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:31,519
I do not think that happens.

646
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: I like uh, I like it.

647
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: Louisville here, I'll also take a lot I don't I think.

648
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,719
I don't know if Marks tubs gets cut, gets the axe,

649
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,400
but this might be the start of the start of that.

650
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: Clemson six and five taking on four to seven South Carolina.

651
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,880
Has there been a state with two more disappointing teams

652
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,800
in Clemson and South Carolina this year, I think the

653
00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,239
answer is no. With that said, uh, this game feel

654
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,639
like pick your poison. I think I actually leaned towards

655
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:04,519
South Carolina, but I don't say that with a whole

656
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:05,400
lot of confidence here.

657
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't what's the what's the line?

658
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,199
Speaker 2: South Carolina three and a half? Stay away?

659
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:13,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't touch it.

660
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: LSU take it out. Number eight Oklahoma.

661
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,639
Speaker 1: The Sooners with a big win last week against Miszoo.

662
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,840
Their defense is playing spectacular, the offense has some issues.

663
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: John Ettier isn't.

664
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:30,079
Speaker 1: Playing like he used to budd He's not necessarily getting

665
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:34,119
in the way either. I like what I've seen from

666
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:37,440
the Bowen brothers. Uh, they've been terrific on the defensive

667
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,480
side of the ball. Special team's been really good. LSU's

668
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:44,880
got lots out Harold Perkinson Company. But uh, they're trying

669
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,440
to figure out who their next head coach is, and

670
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,559
those players are trying figure out where they're gonna play next.

671
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,039
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna be kind of checked out of

672
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,639
this game. I like, O you Tom by at least

673
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:53,320
double digits.

674
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,159
Speaker 3: I'd take you by like ten yeah, I think so.

675
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,440
I think that's about right.

676
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Vandy Diego Pavia trying to get the Commodorees

677
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:09,400
into the College Football playoff road game in Nayland Stadium.

678
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,719
He's talked a lot of smack about Tennessee over the

679
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,880
last several weeks. Tom, I think he's gonna back it up.

680
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,679
I like Vandy to go into Knoxville and win.

681
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: This one is going to be there, and his favorite

682
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,320
team is Vanderbilt. I gotta roll with Vandy here.

683
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: Missoo in Arkansas Missoo seven and four, Arkansas two at nine.

684
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,320
They didn't get bow back last week. Hardy did not

685
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:38,679
get to have that big of a day against Ou.

686
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,000
One of the nation's league rushers was limited about sixty

687
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:42,880
yards last week.

688
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,679
Speaker 2: Missoo has their way.

689
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:48,199
Speaker 3: I like Missoo big, Yeah, I think so. I think

690
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,079
it's just gets words for Arkansas.

691
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,639
Speaker 2: Florida and Florida State. This is a SECOS game.

692
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,559
Speaker 1: Florida three and eight, Florida State five and six. They're

693
00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:01,280
keeping Mike Norvel for some who knows reason. I think

694
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,760
I'll go Florida State here, but uh I would not.

695
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: I would not watch this game. You you'd have to

696
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,880
pay me to watch this game.

697
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:13,119
Speaker 3: Tom. Yeah, it's weird too, because you know Costiano's we

698
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,480
thought early on, we're like, was he a Heisman Canada?

699
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:18,599
He's looking good? He was, They were doing all.

700
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:20,199
Speaker 2: This and I don't even know who's gonna win the

701
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,079
Heisman now, by the.

702
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:26,559
Speaker 3: Way, Noah who That's another discussion for some time. But

703
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,920
I don't I'm I'm lost on that. I think it's

704
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,840
probably as close as it's ever been. There's not really

705
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,039
a standout, and you know, it's it's funny when you

706
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:41,440
look at the heisman graft at the beginning of the

707
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,400
year and that like Kate Klubnick is gonna be the

708
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:45,519
favorite for the Heisman?

709
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Like yeah right, yeah, last one Baba and Auburn, Tom,

710
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,159
this is Auburn super Bowl.

711
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: This kind of like when O WESU would play oh

712
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,960
you you know, uh so.

713
00:40:59,719 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: Well.

714
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: So with that said, you're gonna get Auburn's best effort.

715
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:07,400
But Ty Simpson the company, when that offense is running properly,

716
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:13,239
they're unbelievable and they have a really good passing game.

717
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,440
But Caylin de boor as disappointed when he's needed to

718
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:21,119
in some of these type of games, Tom, I think

719
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,920
I like Alabama to win this one. It's a close

720
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,679
game for three quarters and they pull away late in this.

721
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:30,199
Speaker 3: What time does the game has?

722
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: A night game is six thirty on ABC Saturday Night.

723
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: At Auburn. Yes, yeah, I think you're right then that

724
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:44,400
that that tracks. I still do like Bama though.

725
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: All right, there's your luck around the Big twelve and

726
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Southeastern Conference coming up. On the other side, Jerry Ramsey

727
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:58,559
joins us. Still more to come, don't go anywhere, try

728
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:00,880
us out the program this week play to welcome in

729
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:03,480
from the franchise. He and Oklahoma City is our good

730
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:06,920
friend Jerry Ramsey who joins us on the program right now.

731
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: Jerry, Happy Thanksgiving to you. What is the game plan

732
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:15,280
for you? What are the must haves on the Thanksgiving plate?

733
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,119
Speaker 5: I don't mean to brag here, but we've done that

734
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,400
in a bunch of years. This year, the just the

735
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,559
little extended family we have with Grandpa and Grandma and

736
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,000
a couple of us, we decided to go ahead and

737
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,199
go out and let somebody else do it for us.

738
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:37,880
So there's a menu. It's what it's an imagined Thanksgiving dinner.

739
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,400
So it's gonna be a little different this year. Yeah,

740
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,960
you're gonna have all the basics with your dressing and

741
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:45,400
turkey and stuff like that. But I think it's reimagined

742
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,280
at this place. So admittedly maybe a little fancy and

743
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,920
what we're used to doing, but yeah, we found it

744
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,000
ourselves on the back and said we're gonna go ahead

745
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,400
and let somebody else do it this year.

746
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,199
Speaker 2: Hey, whatever works, right, Gee don't.

747
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,639
Speaker 5: I don't have to clean up, and I'm not making

748
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:03,559
anything the night before.

749
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,599
Speaker 2: Okay, I've in charge of the green bean castle role

750
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,079
and the cocktails.

751
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: Oh now, now I listen to me real, real quick. Okay,

752
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,119
First of all, you cannot mess up green bean castrole.

753
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:18,119
No you can't. There's no way. Like you can try,

754
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,440
but you cannot mess it up.

755
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:22,159
Speaker 2: No idosovit school of GBC.

756
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 5: So it's a piece of cake. Get it done, make

757
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,199
sure it's crispy on top, and you're good. But you

758
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,880
ready for the cocktails. I think this is so easy

759
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,880
and we forget about this all the time. I've been

760
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:38,360
actually looking to get myself into these over the weekend.

761
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,599
I mean it's simple hot cocoa coffee and Bailey's hot

762
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:45,960
cocoa coffee and Bailey's. I mean, once again, you can't

763
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:51,280
mess it up. And who doesn't like hot cocoa coffee

764
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,559
and Bailey's it's pretty easy to get it done. So

765
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,079
you don't have to put a asparagus spear in anything.

766
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,079
You don't have to cut a bloodhorn or something like that.

767
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:04,400
It's pretty to the point and does the job, does

768
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,760
the job you need it. If you're cold, it warms job.

769
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:10,199
And also without it being warm, it warms up. So

770
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,559
good stuff there. That's uh, that's how I'm we go

771
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,400
with cocktails.

772
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I can I can see that. That's good. That's good.

773
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:17,559
Speaker 5: Uh.

774
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: Jerry, Oh, you number eight in the latest college football

775
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,400
playoff rankings.

776
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: A win against LSU likely means.

777
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: A spot of the college Football Playoff and the first

778
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,960
ever playoff game at Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium. Uh,

779
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,519
tell me your thoughts just on where this OU team

780
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:40,280
is at right now, so close to uh to reaching

781
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:40,679
that point.

782
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 5: It seems it's so easy to get caught up on

783
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,280
some of the things that they need to clean up

784
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,360
on the offensive end. Uh, and you know kind of

785
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,119
uh even complain about some of the things they're not doing.

786
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:55,400
But if you just take one step back and what

787
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:58,280
you just said, Uh, they're gonna have They're gonna have

788
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,519
a home game, a home playoff game there in November

789
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:06,480
and December. Goodness gracious. And with the schedule that they've

790
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,519
played this year. They've played at Tennessee, they played at Alabama,

791
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:14,880
they played at home to Michigan, amongst other, I mean

792
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:19,119
other really good matchups, there's been a dream season just

793
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,480
if you step back and look at the schedule, and

794
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,440
then with the potential of a win against LSU. But

795
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,800
by the way, I didn't even mention because they're having

796
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,360
a disappointing season, but the LSU Tigers at your place

797
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:34,039
to get to ten wins, I mean, honestly, it's been

798
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,719
if you look back at it, a very very dreamy

799
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,599
season for OU fans.

800
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I look at how the season has gone,

801
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,000
and they were clearly outplayed in the Texas game, the

802
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:48,920
Old Miss game. I feel like that was one they

803
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,559
should have won. But if they had won the Old

804
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:56,199
Miss game, they probably would have wound up losing to

805
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Alabama or Tennessee. That that game, that stretch was so tough,

806
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:02,760
you were going to lose one of those. So all

807
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,280
that all here, looking back with how tough that schedule

808
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:07,679
was and what Oklahoma had to endure.

809
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 2: I don't know about you.

810
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: I think Brett Vinibles has done a terrific job with

811
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,360
this season, with what he had in front of him

812
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,880
and the circumstances they faced.

813
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 5: If you go behind the scenes a little bit too,

814
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:23,199
what Oklahoma did with the Oaklham administration did was they

815
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,800
let Brent Vinnables do what Bret Vinables does best, and

816
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,440
that's go ahead and get a hold of the defense offensively.

817
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,960
They handed it over to Ben Arbuckle. They said, don't

818
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,400
worry about scouting, don't worry about any of the nil

819
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,719
stuff like administratively, will take care of that this year

820
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,320
concerning what you do best and see what it gets done. Well,

821
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,639
what it gets done is I think in some matrix

822
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,239
I've seen O you at two, and some matrixes i've

823
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,159
seen O you at one. But you have one of

824
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,440
the best defenses in the country, you know, with Brent

825
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:55,480
Vinnables at the helm there, that's exactly what oh you wanted.

826
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,679
Now you go from there to see what you can

827
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,039
do offensively. But as far as with the administration have

828
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:04,599
done for Brent, they put him in the best position

829
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,920
and Brent's made the most of it.

830
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,679
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, he's done a great job for sure with

831
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:11,400
this circumstance.

832
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: And with that being said, you know, the comparison that

833
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:20,599
I look at Jerry is, you know, for years growing up,

834
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:23,679
we sit there in a car and our parents are driving,

835
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,639
and we would turn sixteen. We don't automatically know how

836
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:28,760
to drive a vehicle just because we were in the

837
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,920
passenger's seat for all those years.

838
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,599
Speaker 2: You have to learn how to drive a car. When

839
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:33,599
I look at Brent Fennibles, there.

840
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:37,559
Speaker 1: Has been some mistakes, He's made some questionable decisions and

841
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,199
how he's been as a head coach, and he's kind

842
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:42,719
of had to learn how to be a head coach.

843
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,440
But now we're starting to see the fruits of his

844
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:49,079
labor payoff of you know, hey, I made those mistakes,

845
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:51,360
and it seems like he's learned from some of the

846
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,599
mistakes he made previously.

847
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:55,119
Speaker 5: I you know, I mean, I'm just going to push

848
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:56,679
back on that just a little bit and turn it

849
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,760
on you a little bit. Everybody's had to learn this

850
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,840
new system, I mean with the NIL, with the transfer

851
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,840
portal and how you have to have your program. No

852
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,280
one's safe and a couple of guys got out, like

853
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,960
you know, some of the big boys got out. Nick

854
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,280
Saman said, no, man, I have none to do with this.

855
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:16,320
You know, Brian Kelly didn't have a job right now.

856
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,639
It's just different guys don't understand how to do it

857
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,960
in this era. And you got to give Brent credit

858
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:27,320
for adjusting with it, assimilating to it. And the Oklahoma staff,

859
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,440
Like I said, I cannot say enough about Oklahoma's staff

860
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:33,880
and what they've done. Jim nagging Joe Costigan on the

861
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,480
way out. Mind you, there's a lighthearted search for a

862
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,840
new fle director just would be out in a couple

863
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,639
of years. But all that's going on. And what they

864
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,840
realized is we have to we have to re do

865
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,159
how we run our football program. And I think that

866
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,440
they've done an excellent job of figuring out how to

867
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:59,320
redo it. Think about this, Tyler, this is the third

868
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,000
offensive course leader he's had in the last three years. Yeah,

869
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,239
a team with that kind of turnover at that you

870
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,719
know at that position, they don't make the playoffs, man,

871
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,559
you know they don't. They don't get the high caliber quarterback.

872
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:15,280
And I know Material has had his problems after the

873
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,440
thumb injury, in particular, but they don't get those guys

874
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,920
with that kind of turnover at oh see. Yet somehow

875
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,519
Oklahoma's been able to do it. Vintable has been able

876
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:24,800
to do that.

877
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's done a great job on that front as

878
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,840
far as that goes. So you look at this defense

879
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,280
and you know it's a night and day difference from

880
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,400
the Lincoln Riley days of just how god awful those

881
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,880
defenses were into where Oklahoma's at now and so many guys.

882
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,360
I mean, they've done this the last couple of weeks

883
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,119
with even out their best defensive player in our Mason

884
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:50,599
Thomas here. I mean this is I know they'll use

885
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:53,280
identity under Bob Stoops and even Lincoln for all those years.

886
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: It's about their offense. Jerry isn't just refreshing to see.

887
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,159
Speaker 1: I know that the offense has been so up and

888
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,519
down and of mostly down to be honest, and the

889
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,599
just refreshing to see an Oklahoma team, especially in this

890
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:07,559
this SEC, that lets their defense carry them like this.

891
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:10,039
Speaker 5: I mean, that's exactly what they had to do. You're

892
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,400
playing in the SEC, if they're in the Big twelve.

893
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,400
I don't know you know about this. I don't know

894
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,280
about this offense and defense, and you know, these guys

895
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,159
wouldn't even play for Oklahoma if they were still in

896
00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:22,119
the Big twelve. Like part of the reason why they

897
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:25,360
played Oklahoma is because they know every single week they're

898
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,280
probably gonna match up again somebody that's gonna play on Sundays.

899
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,000
And that was the big thing about when Lincoln Riley

900
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,119
was you know, at the helm and with the defenses

901
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:36,239
or whatever. You can go after those guys, but there's

902
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,239
no way they're coming. They would rather go to a

903
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,079
Mississippi or a Florida or something like that rather than

904
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:44,400
Oklahoma because at least you got to play in the SEC.

905
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,760
Once Oklahoma got the SEC tag, then you started to

906
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,079
get those guys to come in and and they have

907
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,880
them by the you know, the buttload. That's an actual amount.

908
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,000
I don't know if you know that. I think it's

909
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,920
part of the metric system. But they got these guys

910
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:02,119
by the but lo. The depth on the defensive line

911
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:05,679
in particular is very very, very very good.

912
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,079
Speaker 2: So I was listening to Greg McElroy this week.

913
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:11,639
Speaker 1: He's called more OU games than any of the national

914
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:14,239
broadcasters out there, and he was saying that there's a

915
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,559
limit on what, oh, you can do because of where

916
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:18,519
their offense is at if they play a Notre Dame

917
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:21,320
in the first round, for example, he looked at Notre Dame,

918
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,920
a team that averages over forty points a game that, oh,

919
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,840
you can't go to toe toe to toe with a

920
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,400
team like that.

921
00:51:26,679 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: Jerry, what say you you get to I know that

922
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,159
you would have a few weeks to prepare and have

923
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,920
some off time.

924
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: But is so you have the right balance, you think

925
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,760
to compete with these playoff teams with their with their

926
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,800
offense and defenses.

927
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 2: The offense good enough to hold its home.

928
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,119
Speaker 5: You think, right now, you know what a good offense is,

929
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:48,320
a good defense, and uh, tell me about how good

930
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,519
the offense a Tennessee was. I mean, I gulate dam

931
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:53,199
here puts up four hundred passing yards on him. They

932
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,760
won that one. They won that one by turning in

933
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,039
the ball, you know, turning the ball over, getting n

934
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:01,920
overs from tennis See, and just making the right places

935
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,000
at the right time. They beat Alabama. Alabama was pretty

936
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,280
good offensively against Oklahoma. They still figured out a way

937
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,000
to do that. Hardy had had three hundred yards rushing

938
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,519
the week before he plays Oklahoma, and somehow held him

939
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:20,480
under one hundred and won that game too. So when

940
00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:23,280
a guy like McMurray says that, respect to that guy.

941
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,400
I mean, like you said, he's seen a lot of Oklahoma.

942
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,840
He knows what he's talking about with that. But it's

943
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:34,400
not about, you know, offense versus defense per se. It's situationally.

944
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,960
What kind of predicament can OU's defense put any offense in.

945
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:41,960
I love you said Notre Dame because that's you know,

946
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,599
my mouth is just ready to take a bite of

947
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:48,360
a Notre Dame Oklahoma sandwich. And we might get here

948
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:52,360
in the playoff, But it doesn't matter what the offense is.

949
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,400
I think that Brent Vinnibles can scheme against and be successful.

950
00:52:56,679 --> 00:52:59,719
Like you talked about, the defense was not the problem

951
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,159
again Texas, the defense was not the problem against Old Miss.

952
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,559
I mean, there is a couple of misses there. But

953
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,480
I don't know if you've noticed, but both those teams

954
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,639
are pretty highly ranked.

955
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are very highly ranked. It's a great point,

956
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,119
John Metier.

957
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: I know that he hasn't looked like the same quarterbacks

958
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,000
since the injury, but one thing I've noticed Jerry is

959
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:24,599
in the last few games he's not necessarily been a liability.

960
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,880
He's cut back on the turnovers and the mistakes like

961
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,920
we saw against Texas and Ole miss and all that,

962
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:31,880
you know, and he's made some big plays. You know,

963
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,360
we saw the touchdown that he had to Sitania. You know,

964
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,599
they're in the Missouri game with that if is this

965
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,599
version of John Mattier?

966
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: Is this gonna be okay? And do you think this

967
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,880
version is here to stay or do you think, you know,

968
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,280
with some time off whatever, we.

969
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: Could potentially get back to see in the version that

970
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,880
we saw back in September in the early portion of

971
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:52,280
the season.

972
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 5: I think they's been handcuffed a little bit. That's my

973
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,719
own opinion. I think that our buckle and that offense

974
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,400
is being handcuffed a little bit. And I think that

975
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,599
you can I can pinpoint the play in Tennessee when

976
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:06,880
there was an RPO and he was given the you know,

977
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,280
the option to throw it. He throws the interception that

978
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,400
made things a little bit more uncomfortable for ou in

979
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,320
that game than it had to be. I think at

980
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,599
that moment that's when Brent sort of handcuffed that offense

981
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:22,320
and said, hey, look we are putting together gems here,

982
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,360
right son. We can we just keep it conservative, keep

983
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,920
it in front of us, and just move the chains right,

984
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:33,400
but don't turn the ball over. And with the quarterback

985
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,960
like Matia. The one thing we knew about my tea

986
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,079
coming in is the guy who was kind of a gunslinger,

987
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,840
and you saw that against Texas. Go back and watched

988
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,480
the Texas game and see how he has the freedom

989
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,599
to try to make some plays. And people will say, oh,

990
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:47,800
he was injured or whatever. No, I think that the

991
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,280
play calling was a little more liberal against Texas than

992
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,880
what it is now. So is it here to stay?

993
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:57,719
I think that Venables is a really good job of

994
00:54:58,159 --> 00:55:00,760
trying to figure out what it takes to compete in

995
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,559
the game and get yourself to a point where you

996
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:05,039
can win the game. And that's the kind of a

997
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:07,159
tier that they will do. He was more of his

998
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,679
speet than his arm coming in. People kind of forgot that,

999
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,840
and that's what they're absolutely using right now.

1000
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. It's true. Jerry. The matchup with LSU

1001
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,480
this weekend.

1002
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,159
Speaker 1: I know that they've been through a lot of turmoil

1003
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,559
since the Brian Kelly firing and everything, and really even

1004
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:28,440
before that, but this is a team at one point

1005
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,719
that was a top three team in America that does

1006
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,800
have a lot of talented players to it. With that said,

1007
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,920
like I don't know about you, I'm looking at this

1008
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,519
game Saturday, I'm saying to myself, this team still can't

1009
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:42,880
be taken lightly. Yes, they have their question marks and

1010
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,880
their concerns, but this still, if we're looking at talent.

1011
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 2: Of the roster, I think, is still a top ten

1012
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,159
roster on paper.

1013
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:50,679
Speaker 1: What so you?

1014
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 5: I mean are you talking about LSU who always as

1015
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:57,079
creatures of the night just in the locker room just

1016
00:55:57,159 --> 00:55:59,159
to pull out for nothing. I mean, these guys are

1017
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:04,920
awesome as far as athletically. Yeah, you tell me a

1018
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,559
bad LSU team, I'll just show you a team that's

1019
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:09,519
sort of like giving up. It's not from lack of

1020
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:13,480
talent by any means. They lose their quarterback there. You know,

1021
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,800
before the season, people thought that he was going to

1022
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,760
be at the Heisman ceremony. He's out. Well not I listen,

1023
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,599
if he plays, there'll be a huge surprise around here.

1024
00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:26,079
I think they're going with the President van Buren. I

1025
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:29,559
think that kid and Van Buren gives them a little bit,

1026
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:34,360
gives them something that this miner doesn't. Against this OU defense,

1027
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,000
he's a little fleet of foots. He can pick up

1028
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,559
first downs, he can extend plays and what have you.

1029
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:44,079
I know, Newsman had a really really good game last

1030
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:46,639
year against Ou after a little bit of a slow start.

1031
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:50,280
But I think that they're going with Van Buren and

1032
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,800
I you know, to tell you the LSU might be

1033
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,760
a check please, especially after Senior Night last week in LSU,

1034
00:56:59,199 --> 00:57:02,599
they might be a check here and just kind of

1035
00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:05,800
going through the motions. Just ask Western Kentucky about them

1036
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:06,719
going through the motions.

1037
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point, Jerry.

1038
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: If OU does pull this off and they hold on

1039
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:15,280
to a top eight seed, it hosts a first round

1040
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,039
playoff game. How big would that be to have a

1041
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,639
playoff game in Norman in that atmosphere. I know that

1042
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:25,360
the students I believe would be gone by then, but

1043
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:28,880
I mean it's not too far for everybody still make

1044
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,400
this trip. I would imagine that campus corner and everything

1045
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,000
would still be popping. It'd be quite the scene there

1046
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:35,119
at owen Field.

1047
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:40,559
Speaker 5: It's not quite the two thousand Oklahoma's back statement against Nebraska,

1048
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:46,039
but there's a weird back of the national spotlight sort

1049
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,000
of feel. I think that this would give right there

1050
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,639
where they belong. Especially and let me throw this out here,

1051
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,800
especially if Texas does not make the playoff. I think

1052
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,000
that that would make a lot of Suiter fans breathe easy,

1053
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,800
kind of stump watching Tech just make it through the

1054
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:04,760
ways of the playoffs last year, even though they didn't

1055
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,000
get to where they wanted to go. It was kind

1056
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:10,639
of stunt watching them succeed in the playoff. Yeah, Oklahoma

1057
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:14,559
would absolutely love it. And two, if it is Notre Dame.

1058
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,800
If it is Notre Dame, good, that's gonna break. It's

1059
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,559
gonna break college football, man, like that is they make

1060
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:25,400
movies about Oklahoma versus Notre Dame. I mean that excitement

1061
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,719
level is just gonna be off the charts. Not just

1062
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,000
for fans football like you and I not just your

1063
00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:34,440
fans that go to the stadium, but I mean everyday

1064
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:37,000
housewives are gonna watch this, right, five year old kids

1065
00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:40,559
are gonna be inspired by this. You know, they're gonna

1066
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:44,480
erect statues of whoever the hero of that game is

1067
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:47,360
gonna be either at Notre Dame or Oklahoma. I think

1068
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,320
I mean a little dramatic, but this is a Hallmark movie, bro.

1069
00:58:51,719 --> 00:58:55,280
This is ready to get things done. Notre Dame versus Oklahoma.

1070
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,519
Speaker 1: If that's what happens all right last night the Senters,

1071
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:02,400
then we'll ave lot here Jerry. Last year Ohio State

1072
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,119
that won the national title as the eighth seed. If

1073
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:08,039
the playoff began today, oklahall BA would be the eighth seed.

1074
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,320
What do you think their ceiling is? Is this a

1075
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,159
team that can be like Ohio State last year to

1076
00:59:14,199 --> 00:59:15,639
make a run and win the whole thing? What do

1077
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:18,400
you think about their chances of going through this playoff

1078
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:18,760
right now?

1079
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:26,719
Speaker 5: No chance at all? What This defense is great, this

1080
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,960
defense is fun, but the gauntlet of having to go

1081
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:36,840
from Notre Dame to probably Ohio State and then the

1082
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,760
national championship game. I was being kind of funny.

1083
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: Oh there's a semi final before that too.

1084
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,159
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So I'm just like, okay, yeah,

1085
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,079
what a story that would be. Because think about this.

1086
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,440
You are very familiar with YO program. Yes, you've been

1087
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,119
around a long time. Okay, can you even come close

1088
01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:05,079
to the schedule in games that the Oklahoma football team

1089
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,639
has played this year? I mean we're talking Michigan at

1090
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,239
home right night, game Tennessee on the road to Alabama. Obviously,

1091
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:16,320
you know you got oh you Texas. You throw that

1092
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,920
in there, and then you would have a game against

1093
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,840
Notre Dame, a game against Ohio State. Now I'm getting

1094
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,880
into the money games with the semifinals, finals and all

1095
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,920
that stuff. Bro, No, this would this would be the

1096
01:00:29,239 --> 01:00:34,400
quintessential oh you season. Barry Switcher never did anything like this,

1097
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:38,920
Bob soupshers Hell didn't do anything like this. Like we're talking,

1098
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,519
this would be a monumental, monumental season to happen, and

1099
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,760
I just don't see it. They got They gotta be

1100
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,679
a little more complimentary than they are. They're kind of

1101
01:00:48,679 --> 01:00:51,400
top heavy with the defense. If they're a little more complimentary,

1102
01:00:51,559 --> 01:00:53,559
I would tell you they can make a strong run

1103
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,360
if they got through Notre Dame, which that would be

1104
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,119
shutting down uh who psibly could win the Heisman a

1105
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:03,880
Heisman Trophy winning running back there. Then they'd have to

1106
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,480
run into Ohio State. Oh and then after that, I man,

1107
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:11,119
I yeah, don't see it, Man, just don't see it.

1108
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's a very successful

1109
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,000
season already, And not to take on a moral.

1110
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: Victory mentality, but anything after this point it just feels

1111
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,199
like gravy. Once they get to that home game in

1112
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:27,480
the Coachball Playoff. If they can make that happen, let's

1113
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:30,039
move on and head north to Stillwater. There is a

1114
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:32,239
new head coach of the Oklahoma State Cowboys.

1115
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,119
Speaker 2: His name is Eric Morris. Comes over from North Texas.

1116
01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: He's worked with some great quarterbacks from Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes,

1117
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:40,119
cam Ward.

1118
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: John Mattire, among others.

1119
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: What do you think of the hire to begin the

1120
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:48,880
post Mike Gundi era with Eric Morris coming to Oklahoma

1121
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:49,360
State here.

1122
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 5: Jerry, A lot of people said Eric Morris is a

1123
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:54,199
home run higher. I don't know. I think he's more

1124
01:01:54,239 --> 01:01:57,800
of a ground rule double with your three and four

1125
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,239
hitters coming up, so there's a chance to be successful

1126
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,000
sitting there on second base. But also I don't think

1127
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,840
it's a home run hit by any means. He's a

1128
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,360
guy coming from North Texas, and if he brings his

1129
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,400
quarterback with him, who's an absolute stud, a young kid

1130
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,760
that can grow with them, that's what you need. You

1131
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,719
need offense in the Big twelve. But I think it's

1132
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,199
a It's a breath of fresh air for Oklahoma. They've

1133
01:02:20,199 --> 01:02:22,039
had a lot of Oklahoma State, they've had a lot

1134
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:25,000
of bad news in the last couple of years. So

1135
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,079
just to see this young upstart, think with the kids

1136
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:31,320
forty years old, so to have a younger coach come

1137
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,199
in and kind of take the reins. Boy, I hope

1138
01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:39,400
he acclimates the stillwater. Also, I hope he doesn't use

1139
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,239
this as a stairstep because if he is successful, unfortunately

1140
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,480
for Oklahoma State and he doesn't have the ground roots

1141
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:49,800
that you know, I mean, they've had gotten me for years,

1142
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:52,199
So what is there to say? Also, coming in after

1143
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,320
a legend, like you know, this, coming in after a legend,

1144
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,800
it's tough.

1145
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:56,159
Speaker 2: Man.

1146
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,199
Speaker 5: And I talked to a good friend of mine, Eric

1147
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,320
Bailey from the Toll World Yes, and he said that,

1148
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,760
you know, this year is a good buffer year because

1149
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,719
Gundy was fired so early in the year, but still

1150
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,039
coming in after a legend, having to reconstruct what they're

1151
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:15,000
going to need at Oklahoma State. Think about this. Gundhy

1152
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:18,000
said in the Big twelve media days that this is

1153
01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:20,280
the most money Okahoma State had ever spent on the roster.

1154
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,639
Speaker 2: Yikes, so you know, you know it wasn't very much money.

1155
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're coming in, You're gonna to replace all that,

1156
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,000
So we'll see. I think that the Oklahoma State fan

1157
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:35,519
base has proven more to me this year than ever before,

1158
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,480
true and loyal. I mean, they showed up to the games,

1159
01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:41,079
they knew what was going to happen. They were the

1160
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:43,639
original ones and started with the tarps off and their

1161
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:46,280
shirts in the air doing all that stuff. I thought

1162
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,840
that was awesome. So that fan base deserves a winner,

1163
01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:51,719
and I hope he gives it to him.

1164
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 2: I hope so too. And you look at what's going

1165
01:03:56,519 --> 01:03:58,320
on there the Big Twelve.

1166
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,599
Speaker 1: Texas Tech has had a great year and they got

1167
01:04:01,639 --> 01:04:04,559
a lot of money going for them, but there still

1168
01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:07,880
hasn't been a team that's the clear cut favorite to

1169
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:10,599
take the reins for a long time. Texas Tech could

1170
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,280
potentially be that this is just one good year so far.

1171
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:15,880
With that said, I mean, I know that they have

1172
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,360
their financial issues, but Jerry, there is still a window

1173
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,280
for Oklahoma State in that Big twelve conference even if

1174
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,320
they don't have the money with Texas Tech or Kansas,

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if you have the right coach there, with their facilities

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01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,039
in other things, there there's no reason why they can't

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01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:36,320
be I think at least a seven or eight win

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01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,360
team every year if the right guy's still heading up

1179
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this program.

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Speaker 2: What do you think.

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01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,679
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be uphill client, I mean Texas Tech,

1182
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,599
like you said, by Utah, I mean these Arizona schools

1183
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:49,599
were way better than people anticipated coming into the Big twelve.

1184
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,039
If Colorado can get their act together, right, like you

1185
01:04:53,239 --> 01:04:55,719
have a lot of teams that are staking there to

1186
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,800
claim Houston made a play this year on being a

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01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:01,960
very good team. I'm just man, this is it was

1188
01:05:02,119 --> 01:05:07,280
amazing to me that Oklahoma State could be irrelevant this quickly.

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That bothered me. That bothered me that Oklahoma State was

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01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:15,400
that irrelevant that quick So I hear you're optimistic on

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01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,000
that and saying that, But man, oh man, oh man,

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,880
I don't. I don't believe that it's going to be

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01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,000
that easy of a climb for them, especially like as

1194
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:26,360
you said, you know, in this era it takes money.

1195
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:32,440
Texas Tech has it, b yu they have Yeah, oh

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01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:36,159
good as well, poor kid, listen, I will see, we'll

1197
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:39,559
see what happens with just well, basketball is hurting right now.

1198
01:05:39,679 --> 01:05:41,960
I don't even want to get into that. Basketball is

1199
01:05:42,039 --> 01:05:45,159
hurting right now. So it's it's it's kind of up

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01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:47,400
in the air with that. But I'm a firm believer

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01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,960
in Texas Tech BYU And like I said, I think

1202
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,519
those Arizona schools are going to bite you if you

1203
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:56,199
don't pay attention. So I think Oklahoma State has a

1204
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,320
hill to climb in the next couple of years to

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01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,360
get back to irrelevant much less big Control Championship aspirations.

1206
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,159
Speaker 2: Are you excited about Luke Combs coming to the Norman

1207
01:06:05,239 --> 01:06:05,599
next year?

1208
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:08,639
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's interesting. Okay, Am I

1209
01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:09,199
a fan of it?

1210
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: No?

1211
01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: Okay?

1212
01:06:10,519 --> 01:06:10,639
Speaker 1: Uh?

1213
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 5: Fast Car was written by Tracy Chapman and it will

1214
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,079
always be a Tracy Chapman song. I get. I get

1215
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:21,400
the pl though I saw you too at Memorial Stadium.

1216
01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:22,239
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

1217
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:24,559
Speaker 1: Was it.

1218
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: Oh.

1219
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 5: I got a crazy story about that. Uh yeah, Uh.

1220
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: Black Eyed Peas opened for Okay, we were, we were

1221
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:32,599
one date.

1222
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:36,599
Speaker 5: Away from news they they had gone from Dallas to

1223
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,840
Norman and in Dallas, muse it opened up for you too,

1224
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,119
but we end up getting Fergie so anywhere.

1225
01:06:44,519 --> 01:06:44,639
Speaker 1: Uh.

1226
01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 5: But I I the Rolling Stones and YouTube it played there,

1227
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,760
and I feel like that stadium was reserved for those

1228
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:59,719
sort of legendary artists. You know, I is Luke Comb's

1229
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:04,199
the same category as the Rolling Stones and you two.

1230
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,400
I mean, that's a hard past. That's a hard past.

1231
01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:11,119
Speaker 2: Sorry, see where you're coming from.

1232
01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:14,639
Speaker 1: But when they did a pregame concert the spring game

1233
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,079
with Trace Adkins, I'm like, this is a major step up?

1234
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,679
Speaker 5: Is it a step up from Trace Afkins? Everybody is

1235
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,960
a step up from Listen, I'm the biggest hockey talk

1236
01:07:28,039 --> 01:07:31,280
but Donk and Donk is the next guy. But your

1237
01:07:31,719 --> 01:07:37,639
your reach was above Trace Afkins. Come on, man, come on. Uh,

1238
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:42,920
Like I said, I legend legendary concert at legendary place.

1239
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,840
Does Luke Combs fit the bill? I don't. I don't. Hey,

1240
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,519
you know what the uh? I kind of owe you

1241
01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:55,519
coffycatting what they're doing up there, boom Pickens. Uh, those

1242
01:07:55,519 --> 01:07:58,280
are Boys of Oklahoma concerts. I heard, I heard. I

1243
01:07:58,639 --> 01:08:01,679
I don't think I'm I'm I'm of age to hang anymore,

1244
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,000
but I heard those things were wild, and I would

1245
01:08:05,199 --> 01:08:08,639
I would rather attend a Boys of Oklahoma boom Pickens

1246
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,079
than a Luke Comb's Memorial Stadium.

1247
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. I can't believe that Oshu still hasn't

1248
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,319
gotten Garth to perform at uh.

1249
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:21,079
Speaker 5: I can't. I mean, if you if you've seen and

1250
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:25,399
read about how Garth goes. Garth is all business bro right,

1251
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,279
Garth is that that's that's a tough nut to crack,

1252
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,039
lucky nuts. I've only seen him once, and I saw

1253
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:36,840
him whenever he was kind of doing this uh juke

1254
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,199
joint place. I saw him at the oh gosh, what

1255
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,359
is that place called?

1256
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: Uh?

1257
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:46,399
Speaker 5: And like punk bands and rock bands play there out

1258
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,680
there by Midwest City. He played the Diamond Ballroom.

1259
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: I saw him one time at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln. Oh.

1260
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 5: That's a good that's a nice, little quaint joint friend

1261
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:00,399
to go to.

1262
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 2: Yes, it was the first.

1263
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: Fun fact, it was the first time ever Memorial Stadium

1264
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:06,279
sold alcohol.

1265
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 5: That makes sense. I think they're having that alcohol there

1266
01:09:11,239 --> 01:09:15,560
since what Schnellenberger came for the rest game.

1267
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: That's good.

1268
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 1: On that note, Jerry, before we sign off here, go

1269
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,239
ahead and plug away where people can find you and

1270
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:24,119
see all the stuff you're doing.

1271
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:28,520
Speaker 5: Man, Oh, I'm just just TV's Jerry doing TV's Jerry's stuff.

1272
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:31,680
You can catch me. Eleven to one I do a

1273
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,079
show with Daniel Bell, who covers the ol Clones Cyate

1274
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:38,479
Thunder pretty pretty well himself. And then from one to

1275
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,000
three I'm doing shows with Kelly Gregg still chomping up

1276
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,880
the bit with the franchise players. Still got a rock

1277
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,439
show going, so I got a hip hop show going.

1278
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 3: So it is what it is.

1279
01:09:49,159 --> 01:09:51,560
Speaker 5: I try to stay busy because if you're not busy,

1280
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,319
you're gonna die.

1281
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 1: It's Jerry Rams and check him out with the franchise

1282
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,199
in Oklahoma City. Jerry, thanks for joining us, and we'll

1283
01:09:58,199 --> 01:09:59,000
talk him down the line.

1284
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 5: Thank you, you appreciate it.

1285
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: But