Speaker 1: Oh that's art.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I am the
Speaker 3: Cajun Night and today we have on a very special
Speaker 3: guest our boy Barrett from the Broadcasting Seeds podcast.
Speaker 2: Brother, how are you doing this evening?
Speaker 1: Good man? How are you guys killing it?
Speaker 2: Loving it?
Speaker 1: Killing it? And uh thanks studio tonight, right yeah.
Speaker 3: Same studio tonight. We'll face to face interaction, which is awesome.
Speaker 3: And the last time I'll talk to you, I was
Speaker 3: actually going on as a guest on your show. And
Speaker 3: to be honest, I even forgot about most of what
Speaker 3: we talked about. I feel like we were just just
Speaker 3: chopping it up, just having a bit of work.
Speaker 1: And because I can't tell you what we were talking about.
Speaker 3: Dude, I feel like I was probably six months ago.
Speaker 3: In reality is probably a month I think.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think I got really sick.
Speaker 5: That's why I was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I
Speaker 5: haven't got to have the pleasure of meeting you yet,
Speaker 5: but it was like a month ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no shit, So Barrett, everybody who has never heard
Speaker 3: of you or your show, how they haven't, I can't
Speaker 3: tell you, but let's just say that they're a new
Speaker 3: listener to the podcasting game. Give people the run down.
Speaker 3: Who are you and what are you about?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 1: So, my name is Bennett Tanton. I am am the
Speaker 1: host of the Broadcasting Seeds podcast I've been doing. I've
Speaker 1: been in the podcasting game for about twelve years total.
Speaker 1: Started back in twenty fourteen with well you guys would
Speaker 1: like it probably it does exist on YouTube still and
Speaker 1: it's pure Jack astri and the audio was horrific. But
Speaker 1: it was called Cigars and Sea Stories and it's a
Speaker 1: marine centered podcast that a couple bodies of mine and
Speaker 1: I started basically smoking and joking and just talking shit
Speaker 1: about all things Marine corps. So I, as you guys
Speaker 1: are both marines, so yeah, it was just stupid, but
Speaker 1: we kicked out I think four hundred plus episodes of that,
Speaker 1: So we did it for a while. I started another pot.
Speaker 1: We then transitioned into like a podcast network and had
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of kind of like what you guys
Speaker 1: are doing, where we had one RSS feed and a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different shows aggregating onto the same RSS feed.
Speaker 1: So that was called Change Your POV podcast Network, and
Speaker 1: we had you know, mainly veterans centered, So yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been in this game for a little while. This podcast
Speaker 1: has been around for about two years. Started as a
Speaker 1: sasquatch podcast, because you know, that's where my whole journey
Speaker 1: started years and years ago when I was like eleven,
Speaker 1: twelve years old, and then it turned into what it
Speaker 1: is because all the shit rhymes and everything from cryptids
Speaker 1: to UFOs to the biblical narrative to you know, all
Speaker 1: the supernatural shit in between, and I just couldn't focus
Speaker 1: on the one thing. So I feel that with all
Speaker 1: that being said, that I have that, and I write
Speaker 1: a shit ton of stuff. I've got a bunch of
Speaker 1: books out.
Speaker 4: Oh really, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Everything from fiction and non fiction. It's it's quite diverse.
Speaker 1: I write about whatever hits me, so yeah, I found
Speaker 1: that's a good way to cope with bullshit. So I
Speaker 1: write quite a bit. I have. I'm the father of
Speaker 1: four daughters, been married to the same woman for twenty
Speaker 1: two years. Yeah, our anniversary was just, oh shit, the
Speaker 1: other day.
Speaker 4: I forget everything.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I know, I was married to the same
Speaker 5: person for like twelve years, and when we went to divorce,
Speaker 5: neither one of us could tell them when we actually
Speaker 5: got married. Like this is the right date. We kept
Speaker 5: being like, it's one of those days, and they're like, wait.
Speaker 1: Probably confused with someone's birthday.
Speaker 5: Was how do you not know the day that you
Speaker 5: got married? And you guys have been like technically together
Speaker 5: all this time. We're both like, it's somewhere in the
Speaker 5: month of December's like, and then we got it wrong.
Speaker 5: We actually wrote it wrong twice. We had to get
Speaker 5: the actual decree and then we both looked at it.
Speaker 5: We're both like, oh, that's the dash. All these years
Speaker 5: we've totally we were off by like ten days for
Speaker 5: literally like a decade.
Speaker 2: Wow, we're both Marines as well, that's.
Speaker 4: What's Yeah, yeah, we're both Marines too.
Speaker 3: You're so bad at remembering so many things, but also
Speaker 3: we can remember certain things like it just happened five
Speaker 3: minutes ago.
Speaker 2: It's insane.
Speaker 4: It was so bad.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm sorry, I mean it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 5: I mean we're good friends and you know whatever. It
Speaker 5: wasn't a big deal. We laughed about it. They're like, wow,
Speaker 5: for a decade and over a decade.
Speaker 4: You couldn't get this somebody. Okay, Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 4: it's one of those days. That's all right.
Speaker 5: I got told I was older than I am, and
Speaker 5: I was like, no, you're lying. My mom's like I
Speaker 5: was there, you're you're old.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm sorry, that's crazy, that's actually crazy.
Speaker 4: That's so bad with numbers.
Speaker 2: But so you've been in the podcasting game fourteen years.
Speaker 4: You said twelve years.
Speaker 1: He said twelve years.
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, I just make something.
Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen. Yeah, the podcast was birthed in
Speaker 1: the Atlanta okay, all right, and Centennial Park. He has
Speaker 1: no where. That's at the Big Fair swheel is the
Speaker 1: yeah where the Olympic village back in ninety six was.
Speaker 1: So we were laying there. We were all drunk as shit,
Speaker 1: laying there smoking cigars, looking at stars, and decided that
Speaker 1: podcasting was a good idea.
Speaker 3: I know the cigar shop really closed eye there as
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, and I love their selection.
Speaker 2: So fuck yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 5: Know this, like podcasting was really a thing. In twenty fourteen,
Speaker 5: I lived under a rock though. Let me be really honest.
Speaker 4: People are like, where were you?
Speaker 2: I was like, not was, but not here?
Speaker 4: Not here.
Speaker 5: I just came back from living overseas in Afghanistan all
Speaker 5: this time and all this stuff, and I was like
Speaker 5: I was in my own bubble and the world had
Speaker 5: moved on.
Speaker 3: I'll say that the podcasting didn't become a mainstream talking
Speaker 3: point at that point, so YouTube had just stopped being
Speaker 3: so if you look at like the earlier days of YouTube,
Speaker 3: from like we're talking the two thousands here, to say
Speaker 3: that you were a YouTuber was like that was cringey,
Speaker 3: Like most of people were embarrassed that they were doing
Speaker 3: YouTube as a hobby.
Speaker 2: There was a few that just.
Speaker 3: Towards the twenty ten twenty twelve time frame, they started
Speaker 3: to get big, Right, you're Ray William Johnson, your Jenna Marbles, You're.
Speaker 2: Not Oompaville. What's his name, fucking PewDiePie.
Speaker 3: There was a few of them that were just starting
Speaker 3: to like make a little money and they weren't seen
Speaker 3: as so cringey. But being a quote unquote content creator
Speaker 3: was still so crazy and nuanced that nobody was really
Speaker 3: into that world.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Podcasting Rogan started his way back in the day, but honestly,
Speaker 3: that was just him and a couple of comedy buddies
Speaker 3: talking shit in the green room at a comedy club
Speaker 3: between sets, and like that was it. That was all
Speaker 3: podcasting quote unch that was seen to be you had him,
Speaker 3: and I mean, I guess we could make the conversation
Speaker 3: about Art Bell right coast to coast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was talk radio. That wasn't inherently podcasting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Different. I mean, I guess that most people consider
Speaker 1: Adam Curry, Okay, Adam Curry from MTV back in the
Speaker 1: day as the modern creator I guess of podcasting. But
Speaker 1: that was that was with like real iPads, real iPods, right,
Speaker 1: so that's why it was called podcasting. But that was
Speaker 1: like twenty that was like two thousand and four. But
Speaker 1: that I don't know, it was just different, right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: totally totally weird. But yeah, and.
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty much replaced talk radio. I don't know essentially, Still, I.
Speaker 1: Don't listen to that ship anymore. I know that I.
Speaker 2: Don't know anybody that does.
Speaker 3: And aside from you might have some diehard listeners are like, well,
Speaker 3: maybe like Howard Stern, but that's not even like regular
Speaker 3: talk but it's.
Speaker 1: Like serious, that's satellite, right.
Speaker 3: Which he's the only reason that series exists, to be honest.
Speaker 1: But essentially, yeah, and there's I mean, you have you
Speaker 1: do have like, uh, I mean, like Coast to Coast.
Speaker 1: I'll still listen to that that's still on terrestrial radio,
Speaker 1: but I won't. I'm not staying up till three in
Speaker 1: the morning. I don't do that ship anymore, right, I'm
Speaker 1: too freaking old. Uh I just I don't so, but
Speaker 1: I'll listen to it on streaming, right. So.
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing too. Most of the talk
Speaker 3: radio show hosts also have pods.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is a podcast, now how they do it that?
Speaker 3: Then it continues whatever persona they would have had, there
Speaker 3: was one like Kid Kratick in the morning.
Speaker 2: No one listens to that or the Bobby Bone Show
Speaker 2: or Johnson Like.
Speaker 1: I mean, we hear them like Elvis Duran and all
Speaker 1: that shit. And some of that shit's funny, like phone
Speaker 1: taps and ship like that that ships. That shit is funny,
Speaker 1: But I'm not sitting there at seven in the morning
Speaker 1: listening to that ship. No.
Speaker 3: The medium has transferred into podcasting, and now I.
Speaker 1: Don't even watch TV anymore. I basically watch YouTube.
Speaker 2: Bro Basically, that's where I go for my entertainment.
Speaker 3: There might be on occasion a show on Netflix aside
Speaker 3: from like my kids. If my kids are watching a
Speaker 3: movie or something for it, like no.
Speaker 4: No, no, he like lives on YouTube.
Speaker 1: That's what too.
Speaker 5: That was my favorite, Like this, I've never seen somebody
Speaker 5: like obsessively watch YouTube and documentaries like this person has.
Speaker 4: Come up assuming it is like NonStop, like.
Speaker 3: It's for work, it's fucking research, it's restarts. Okay, I
Speaker 3: will say, I like, right now I'm missing kill tony pleasures.
Speaker 2: I have my guilty pleasures on the ships.
Speaker 4: It's shit.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, It's like, okay, all the ones that I've
Speaker 5: been forcibly made to watch have been trash.
Speaker 4: So I mean, you know, and I have like and
Speaker 4: I have an.
Speaker 5: Easy threshold, like I will laugh at so much shit too,
Speaker 5: Like I am an easy person to make laugh. And
Speaker 5: I'm like, god, these people really suck for me not
Speaker 5: to laugh, it has to be really bad.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're rough sets.
Speaker 5: Sometimes so many times, like I've watched like fifteen of them,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, no.
Speaker 3: That is the number one live podcast on Earth consecutively
Speaker 3: for a good chunk of time.
Speaker 4: Now, I'd rather learn about how like.
Speaker 3: Hear Me Out hear Me Out Your Boy as a
Speaker 3: live podcast is selling out Madison Square Garden multiple times
Speaker 3: for a podcast. The man's making moves, you have to
Speaker 3: at least respect the hustle.
Speaker 5: I know, like he they definitely have gotten like that
Speaker 5: ship unlock, but like the people he brings on are
Speaker 5: like I've seen like one that was actually like decent
Speaker 5: that I laughed at, and the rest of them, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 5: this is really bad and I can laugh so easy,
Speaker 5: and I'm like why, I know, there's so many other
Speaker 5: things that I would rather watch, so I consume It's.
Speaker 3: Like, no, it's about once a week guilty pleasure. Other
Speaker 3: than that, I'm typically watching geopolitical shit, historical shit, yeah,
Speaker 3: science things.
Speaker 5: But my guilty pleasure is like really fantasy, high fantasy things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd be reading, well if I know, I haven't.
Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't even been able to finish a
Speaker 4: single book.
Speaker 5: Pretty much since I've gotten on this podcast, I've barely
Speaker 5: been able to do anything. You're welcome, because like I
Speaker 5: don't have time to consume what I want to consume.
Speaker 5: I'm having to like read and research everything else, which
Speaker 5: I will say though, I am doing an episode about
Speaker 5: zombies because I've like I need to just I need
Speaker 5: to wrap it back to my roots of see where
Speaker 5: everybody else started random shit. I started by making a
Speaker 5: zombie Apocalypse group, which most marines do.
Speaker 4: But like we had like meetings, we had like.
Speaker 1: Your favorite zombie movie.
Speaker 5: Oh, good question, man, I don't actually know if I
Speaker 5: have a specific.
Speaker 2: Favorite zombie Land is mine.
Speaker 4: I like the rules. I like the rules, yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: the rules are great.
Speaker 3: Strictly for the zombies, like yeah yeah, the character and
Speaker 3: the comedy. But zombie lan zombies, I feel like would
Speaker 3: be the most fun to like be somehow juxtaposed into
Speaker 3: the world where those zombies are real. Yeah, walking dead,
Speaker 3: They're slow, They're annoying. That's that's not fun, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually like World War Z.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say I've probably watched that.
Speaker 1: I did read the book. I read the book first. Yea,
Speaker 1: and the book is ridiculous if you've never read it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the book is because she hasn't finished any books.
Speaker 4: Well, oh, normally I read about one hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: books a year.
Speaker 5: That's amazing and so for me, and so for me
Speaker 5: to not be able to even consume hardly. I think
Speaker 5: I've finished like a book. It's like it's killing my
Speaker 5: whole salt.
Speaker 4: Like it's right. I'm just like, I just want to read.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I will say this, you were ahead of the curb
Speaker 3: on the Fourth Wing craze, because my god, the world
Speaker 3: of uh literotica high fantasy shit is all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: all the fifty shades people are now so about some
Speaker 3: fourth wing dragon rid o fair.
Speaker 4: I did get a whole bunch of the cult members
Speaker 4: like obsessed with it.
Speaker 3: So no podcasts that I watched, podcasters that I watch,
Speaker 3: all of their wives are on this fourth wing shit.
Speaker 2: This is traversed. This is shit right now.
Speaker 4: But it's fantastic.
Speaker 5: Though okay it could be, it could be a little
Speaker 5: bit better, but I will say that for like, it's good.
Speaker 4: But I'm a story I like a world building books,
Speaker 4: so I.
Speaker 2: Won't get off with everybody else.
Speaker 4: All these women good because like they're fantastic.
Speaker 5: But no, So back to you though, with your So
Speaker 5: you've written a lot of books since we're.
Speaker 4: Talking about well, I got a bunch of I wanted to.
Speaker 5: Ask you about that, Like what you said you wrote
Speaker 5: fiction and nonfiction, so what kind of such?
Speaker 1: So the first fiction book that I actually wrote is
Speaker 1: called What we Have. That's it's it's a novel. It's
Speaker 1: get some weight to it, and it is basically a
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic world, but not like in some weird zombie
Speaker 1: shit or or literally you're in a you're in a
Speaker 1: It's basically in a neighborhood, right, regular suburban neighborhood, could
Speaker 1: be anywhere, and the grid just goes out, okay, and
Speaker 1: they really don't find out why. But so here's the
Speaker 1: kicker with this is that along every chapter has a
Speaker 1: survival insert at the end, so it's also educational, so
Speaker 1: you learn about survival skills, like you know, after every
Speaker 1: chapter it talks about the ship that's talked about. It
Speaker 1: talks about you know, water and how long municipal water
Speaker 1: will last, gas all that shit.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, I want to read it.
Speaker 1: But there's a sequel to that too that will be
Speaker 1: out like later in the year.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm a sucker for if it has more than
Speaker 5: three books in it in the series, sign me up,
Speaker 5: like yeah, shoot past five, like you got me already,
Speaker 5: So then.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, so that one. I think I've
Speaker 1: got three in my head. Oh well, but two of
Speaker 1: them are almost all written, so no, I'm committed so well,
Speaker 1: that one's all written the second one's mostly written, and
Speaker 1: the third one is still concept right. The first book
Speaker 1: I ever wrote, the big largest from uh beginning, was
Speaker 1: the the war you didn't know you were in, understanding
Speaker 1: and winning the spiritual battle. It's basically about spiritual warfare
Speaker 1: and the ship that I went through with get in
Speaker 1: my life, right, you know that was some ship with
Speaker 1: like a like a Lilith type entity, a succubist. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say Lilith entity and say a succubist. That was
Speaker 1: not good for me saying I know, so I had
Speaker 1: to deal with that. And this is all kind of
Speaker 1: that story, right, but it's it's good. It helps a
Speaker 1: lot of people. One of my So this is the
Speaker 1: one raven that's got about six or seven books in it,
Speaker 1: and it starts out with the first book is called
Speaker 1: The Last witch Hunter's Journal. Not to be confused with
Speaker 1: the Last witch Hunter and the stupid Vin Diesel movie
Speaker 1: that it was. This is the Last witch Hunter's Journal.
Speaker 1: I actually, well, no, no, it's actually a decent movie.
Speaker 4: But it's a decent. It's not amazing. It's a decent movie.
Speaker 4: But I had.
Speaker 5: But I have maybe seen it a few too many times.
Speaker 1: I've seen it a few times too, and mainly undeployment,
Speaker 1: I would say. But so this book is the beginning
Speaker 1: of like a universe right now. The main character's marine
Speaker 1: as well. But there's there's two two serieses are going
Speaker 1: to collide and the other one that's called the beginning
Speaker 1: of the other side of it, it's called the Grim Protocol,
Speaker 1: and this is about the Phantom Unit, which some people
Speaker 1: have heard of in the military. I'm not saying it's real.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's there's some people in the military
Speaker 1: are doing some weird shit, for sure, and the Grim
Speaker 1: Protocol kind of starts follow as a character that it's
Speaker 1: kind of like what I'm calling the Phantom in a universe. Okay, nice,
Speaker 1: And so these two books are on either side of
Speaker 1: that and they're just going to collide.
Speaker 4: And okay, I like it.
Speaker 1: I'm just building the fucking world, man, that's it.
Speaker 4: You got me. I told you.
Speaker 5: As soon as you say there is more than a
Speaker 5: couple in it, and you're building a world, like, sign
Speaker 5: me up.
Speaker 1: So then I've got I've got a few books. So
Speaker 1: I also, I was telling you a sess I like
Speaker 1: to do regular research on cryptids and stuff. So I've
Speaker 1: got these books there. It's a series called The Creatures
Speaker 1: at the Edge, and the first book is small, little
Speaker 1: like introductory book to the whole series, but it talks
Speaker 1: about cryptids and arc types and human encounter. I don't
Speaker 1: just go like straight cryptid like I, you know, Bigfoot
Speaker 1: is flesh and blood. I kind of delve into the
Speaker 1: psychology behind it as well. In the first book in
Speaker 1: this series. Besides this one, the first real book is
Speaker 1: The Sasquatch. And then I've got one that I'm writing
Speaker 1: right now on dog Man, and it'll just progress through
Speaker 1: all the freaking cryptids. Hello, I am uh. And then
Speaker 1: I just wrote a national security book. Actually I just
Speaker 1: released it today, No Ship and it So the other
Speaker 1: side of my world is I'm still I don't work
Speaker 1: for the government anymore, but I still am like government adjacent.
Speaker 1: So I is.
Speaker 2: What you're saying.
Speaker 1: No, no, yes, no no. So I work for I
Speaker 1: own a defense company, guilty, But but with that I
Speaker 1: make cool ship for soldiers and marines and stuff. So
Speaker 1: everything from keem lights that write We've all done that
Speaker 1: ship before, break it and shake it and then cut
Speaker 1: it open and try and write with it. Well, imagine
Speaker 1: a kran that you write with that glows in the dark. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: the kicker. Really funny story, guys. So the so the
Speaker 1: product is actually called Kraytech Tech Cran Marine. People are like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's minty. It's minty. But either way, because the one
Speaker 1: the one that we sell, no, oh damn, the ones
Speaker 1: that we sell are they only are visual in the infrared,
Speaker 1: so you can only see them with nods on. And
Speaker 1: of course the first unit, because I still have friends
Speaker 1: that are in uh, the first unit that tested this
Speaker 1: was a marsk.
Speaker 4: They drew dicks over everything.
Speaker 1: They absolutely did before before I.
Speaker 4: Even got into it, I was like, they drew dicks
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's simply our way.
Speaker 1: I already off this whole thing. I'll send you the
Speaker 1: video and you guys will laugh here. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: so you can write with it and and it only
Speaker 1: shows an infrared. It's freaking cool product.
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: You can mark targets, you can, I mean imagine you're
Speaker 1: clearing you know, yeah, door kickers, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: what I did. So you know, we always had those
Speaker 1: issues where we would mark in doors, marking freaking ship
Speaker 1: that we've gone through already and we're tying fucking ship
Speaker 1: together with five fifty cordon duct tape or riggers tape
Speaker 1: and throwing it over the top, wrapping around. Sh has
Speaker 1: always fallen and down. It was just a nightmare. Well
Speaker 1: this now you can clear room, You close the door,
Speaker 1: mark a big X on it, and you move on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's it's products like that. That's what
Speaker 1: we make. Things like that that help the war fighter
Speaker 1: do their ship better, be more lethal, and you know, safer.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, I it's a long thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get a look deep into it,
Speaker 1: but I uh, I also work for a university and
Speaker 1: we do on the research side. So basically I'm a
Speaker 1: good idea fairy and we just help. Uh. We're trying
Speaker 1: to help bring defense manufacturing back to the US.
Speaker 4: Spy Guy.
Speaker 5: You're like the movie from The Spy Guy where they
Speaker 5: have with all those like the bubblegum stuff and all
Speaker 5: that crap.
Speaker 3: You from James Bond, He's cue the version of it.
Speaker 1: I wish, but I am not. I just hire people
Speaker 1: that are those people like it. I'm just yeah, so
Speaker 1: I can come up with all the ship in the world,
Speaker 1: just like the books all that ship, like the ship
Speaker 1: that lives in my head is terrifying. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: so I wrote up. So I also have another podcast
Speaker 1: full called Full Spectrum Frontiers, which is a it's basically
Speaker 1: part of that job. I get paid to do that podcast,
Speaker 1: which is freaking cool. And I wrote you know, and
Speaker 1: I can't even think of the fucking name of it. Oh,
Speaker 1: Everything is national Security. That's the name of the book,
Speaker 1: Everything is National Security. So I talk about it as
Speaker 1: kind of like a guide to the regular American citizen
Speaker 1: that national security is more than military. It's education, it's food,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, power, it's the grid, it's all of it.
Speaker 1: And for too long we've ignored it and it's part
Speaker 1: of the reason this nation's going to shit. Ye And
Speaker 1: we have problems, but we're the answer, not these assholes. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's kind of an education piece. This is what
Speaker 1: I talked about in the podcast is Everything is national Security.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I dig it.
Speaker 3: So I'm somebody who does love digging in on geopolitics
Speaker 3: and shit. So that type of content is absolutely right
Speaker 3: up my alley. But I know some people cannot stand
Speaker 3: it because it can't. For the record, we are a
Speaker 3: conspiracy show, and I understand that there are so many
Speaker 3: conspiracies on either side of the aisle of whatever country,
Speaker 3: of whatever decade you look at like, I get that,
Speaker 3: and that's what we talk about here. Yeah, But also
Speaker 3: I like looking at the bigger picture to see, Okay,
Speaker 3: this country is at an ass right now. These countries
Speaker 3: are responding in X, Y and Z way, Well, was
Speaker 3: that the intention of the country that's acting like an
Speaker 3: ass to get that response out of them? To push
Speaker 3: the chess pieces a few places more? And it's a
Speaker 3: whole thing, and it's looking at it for the grand
Speaker 3: scheme of things.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm not smart enough to make predictions.
Speaker 3: I know, there's so many of these geopolitical analysts that
Speaker 3: will sit there and make so many predictions about what
Speaker 3: the next six months to a year looks like, and
Speaker 3: they'll be able to speak so intelligently on it and
Speaker 3: justify their beliefs on it.
Speaker 2: I am more or less just watching the patterns, if
Speaker 2: that makes.
Speaker 1: Sense, exactly, absolutely, I mean, and that's what we're good at,
Speaker 1: right usually, I mean, that's what actually humans are good at.
Speaker 1: Pattern Well, they should be should be most you know
Speaker 1: should be. That's kind of what we're built for, right,
Speaker 1: is pattern recognition, right, And if you can see the pattern,
Speaker 1: you can't unsee it. So this is why people get
Speaker 1: that unsettled feeling with so much shit, because they know
Speaker 1: something's not right, because the patterns fuck up, right, and
Speaker 1: they know what in their gut, they just choose not
Speaker 1: to see it.
Speaker 5: So like artemists too, speaking of patterns, oh Man, I
Speaker 5: don't know if you guys have been watching, So I
Speaker 5: follow scientists.
Speaker 2: You saw that female astronaut also in Mad Max.
Speaker 4: I did see that.
Speaker 5: So I I follow scientists, and I follow people that
Speaker 5: actually work for Nason. I follow people that are like
Speaker 5: break down real science of the universe and like astrophysicists
Speaker 5: and all this stuff. And I find it really interesting
Speaker 5: that some of them that are starting to remain really
Speaker 5: quiet about this whole thing as more and more video
Speaker 5: footage comes out, and of course you see a lot
Speaker 5: of the AI images that people are pushing out of them,
Speaker 5: like on green screens and all this.
Speaker 4: Stuff or whatever.
Speaker 5: But I was like, because technically I I won on
Speaker 5: the car that they did launch you, so but I
Speaker 5: did I said they would launch, so they did they
Speaker 5: actually raven, but they at least attempted to launch.
Speaker 4: We don't know for certain.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have the moon in sixty nine, but did we.
Speaker 4: We're gonna We're gonna claim it.
Speaker 5: Kind of okay, it is it still it counts. It
Speaker 5: counts of counting it. And we're claiming that Epstein's alive
Speaker 5: with no proof, which we do but all believe he's alive. No, sure,
Speaker 5: we're gonna claim that they at least semi launched the
Speaker 5: AI fabricated launch it im.
Speaker 3: I'm hearing now more and more people are coming out
Speaker 3: talking about how Donald Trump, uh, he like the whole
Speaker 3: him getting shot in Butler was a fake and that
Speaker 3: he was in on it and all of these things,
Speaker 3: and like of course more people are coming out with
Speaker 3: stories on this, and I'm like, all right, this is
Speaker 3: kind of out of nowhere, not saying that, like we
Speaker 3: haven't talked about it, but like that was that was
Speaker 3: a little ways back. There's been a lot that have
Speaker 3: happened between now and then.
Speaker 5: I think people are using artemis and understanding that hey,
Speaker 5: maybe everything is really allay and a lot twisted, and
Speaker 5: like people are breaking down, like the little they like
Speaker 5: even zoomed in on the guy's face on his ear
Speaker 5: where like ripples and then the bag that shows you
Speaker 5: could see like it's you know, I will say it
Speaker 5: does very very much look like.
Speaker 4: It's all fake.
Speaker 5: And I was watching a content creator talk about how
Speaker 5: why is it that we have seven minutes of them
Speaker 5: free falling from outer space down and we have zero
Speaker 5: footage of any time any capsule has ever done this ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like, yeah, like.
Speaker 3: You're talking about the Origin rocket even that just went
Speaker 3: with Katy Perry on board, we all have like almost
Speaker 3: no footage of that coming down.
Speaker 5: We have everything about them. We have everything about them
Speaker 5: up until that point, like you're talking about there, they're
Speaker 5: videoing every aspect and showing everything live stream and all
Speaker 5: these pictures and look at my new iPhone them taking
Speaker 5: pictures of the moon, the dark side of the moon
Speaker 5: for you, and we're just not gonna play this part
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 1: Like it's definitely weird. It's one of those things like
Speaker 1: I don't I don't get deep into it because I
Speaker 1: don't think I I know, I would go down the
Speaker 1: rabbit hole and I don't have I have a lot
Speaker 1: of capacity, but I don't have that much, and so
Speaker 1: I just try and keep it at an armed insistence,
Speaker 1: like it's like, oh, okay, yeah, we're going to the
Speaker 1: moon again, right, Okay, cool, that's it. Like that's all
Speaker 1: I'm doing because I couldn't because.
Speaker 4: I yeah, I just I haven't.
Speaker 5: I've just been seeing a lot of this stuff on it.
Speaker 5: I've talked a lot about Artemis happening up until it happening,
Speaker 5: because I kept saying it's going to technically happen, and
Speaker 5: everyone's like, no wound, and I'm like, well, they said
Speaker 5: it's going to.
Speaker 3: I mean genuinely thought that there was going to be
Speaker 3: some sort of engine failure, some sort of They have.
Speaker 5: To do it, though, because Musk is determined to get
Speaker 5: his starship up in the space in like the next
Speaker 5: two months, so they have to beat him technically up there.
Speaker 5: Which was The flight path alone though, was very odd
Speaker 5: and very strange, and even the couple of the scientists
Speaker 5: that I followed were very perplexed at the flight path.
Speaker 4: They were like, this is a very odd flight path.
Speaker 4: This is very weird. While they're doing this, like it
Speaker 4: doesn't really make a logical sense, you know, And it
Speaker 4: just was a weird.
Speaker 5: The whole thing start to finish was strange because that's
Speaker 5: not the original Artemist two plan. So the Artemist two
Speaker 5: plan has shifted like four different times. But the last
Speaker 5: plan before this was they were supposed to land on
Speaker 5: the Moon, like they were supposed to go to the moon.
Speaker 4: About yeah, so Artemist two has always been going back
Speaker 4: to the Moon.
Speaker 5: And so then it shifted, and then it changed to
Speaker 5: we're just gonna check it out. We're gonna but we're
Speaker 5: gonna take only photos from half up. And there was
Speaker 5: a photo that NASA put up of the whole moon backside.
Speaker 4: I will say it was very weird.
Speaker 5: And then I don't know if they still have it up,
Speaker 5: but I saw other people talking about that they took
Speaker 5: it down because it was on their stories and it
Speaker 5: wasn't actually like a real post and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: it looks extremely ai generated.
Speaker 4: I'll say that, but.
Speaker 1: I mean, in this state and age, it's hard to
Speaker 1: say you don't know what's real. You can't because it's
Speaker 1: one of those things. I think for me, this whole
Speaker 1: I keep it in the same space where I keep
Speaker 1: flat Earth. And I also keep saying the little season
Speaker 1: just right there, because it's it's for me, it's too much,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Season has been brought up.
Speaker 5: I don't even tell in the last few months, I
Speaker 5: think I've heard that's saying on every single time we've
Speaker 5: talked to somebody brought.
Speaker 1: Up I've heard it because it's it's got a life
Speaker 1: of its own, and there's some really good I mean,
Speaker 1: some people are really smart freaking people.
Speaker 5: Liberty has broken down the really well you know who
Speaker 5: rise to Liberty, Okay, I don't, Yeah, check him out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's fantastic.
Speaker 5: He he has actually every week he has broken it down.
Speaker 5: He has an entire weekly episode where he breaks it
Speaker 5: down even more and he goes, I mean he goes
Speaker 5: really dip into it and does a lot of work
Speaker 5: to make sure that you can like understand everything that's
Speaker 5: going on with it.
Speaker 1: Like you guys know who J t JTJ. Here he does. Man,
Speaker 1: he does a great job too.
Speaker 2: And I love him to death. I do. I disagree
Speaker 2: with him on so many points, but I do too.
Speaker 2: And he's solid and he is solid.
Speaker 1: He's just a solid guy. Yeah, period. So I like him.
Speaker 3: Uh and demon Erasers on the and they both of
Speaker 3: them great fucking guys.
Speaker 1: I just great dudes, Like there are guys you want
Speaker 1: on your side, but like I just.
Speaker 2: Disagree with them. Satan's a little season thing.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, and I understand that at that point we
Speaker 3: are we are getting into the weeds over disagreements of
Speaker 3: scripture and literature.
Speaker 2: You interpreted this way, I interpreted this way.
Speaker 3: And that's that's why I don't get into some like
Speaker 3: loggerheads of people over it, because it's not a salvation issue.
Speaker 1: No, and it's not a salvation issue, and it's I
Speaker 1: look at it as a I'm frankly I'm agnostic on it.
Speaker 1: And if ever happens happens at this point.
Speaker 3: It's it's very much like flat Earth. Like okay, let's
Speaker 3: say that it is what We still got taxes to pay.
Speaker 3: Trump is still bombing around, We got shit going on right.
Speaker 1: Ship is going down still right here in front of
Speaker 1: my face. I can't really worry about whether I live
Speaker 1: under a dome or I'm you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't affect my everyday life, I guess, is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. I agree, Sunglasses, I have a.
Speaker 4: Wall between the two of us.
Speaker 5: We probably oh hate s no, we probably we probably
Speaker 5: have no fuck you, I'm we probably owned together, like
Speaker 5: he owns probably about thirty glasses I own probably I.
Speaker 4: Did own at one point, probably like fifty.
Speaker 5: But I now between my children, they just sneak off
Speaker 5: like they don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know where all my sunglasses go.
Speaker 2: Dude to my older son.
Speaker 3: If my son steals my pit vipers one more time,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to fucking glove up.
Speaker 2: I'm so tired of the ship. That's the most offensive
Speaker 2: pair of glasses I own.
Speaker 3: This little middle school kid trying to yank them like
Speaker 3: he's about to go off to school and drip like that, Like, son,
Speaker 3: stop that, get out.
Speaker 1: Of my son. Girls so they don't try and steal
Speaker 1: my stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh that doesn't stop my boys half of my ship,
Speaker 5: I swear to God, like like you be fair.
Speaker 3: Your style also has a lot of metal T shirts
Speaker 3: that like would.
Speaker 2: Fly either way.
Speaker 5: To be fair, I do have some I like, I
Speaker 5: have extremely girly clothing, and then I also have some
Speaker 5: like androgeness more male hype clothing like he could get
Speaker 5: away with some. And actually I do have male clothing
Speaker 5: too that fits me. So like I'm gonna be like
Speaker 5: I can. I can wear a lot of different types
Speaker 5: of clothing. So no, he's like ooh and like this
Speaker 5: and like he's bougie though he's.
Speaker 4: He's he loves to steal everything.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so all right, all right, we've we've gotten
Speaker 3: way off from the Weeds about so many.
Speaker 2: Chatting, but none of this is what.
Speaker 3: We actually came to talk about this even So what
Speaker 3: do you have for the good colt member on this one?
Speaker 1: I mean, so I've been digging into this. What now
Speaker 1: my my episode? You know, God, my memory is so bad.
Speaker 2: God it happens, dude, the more kids we have, I
Speaker 2: swear to.
Speaker 1: God, absolute moron. Hold on, so I have to actually
Speaker 1: pull up my podcast to even tell you what the
Speaker 1: episode name was.
Speaker 3: Helly, I've had to do the same thing whenever we're
Speaker 3: talking with somebody about, oh we just did an episode
Speaker 3: on this pop up up and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh shit, but what's it even called?
Speaker 3: Like it's called a conspiracy and then a topic and
Speaker 3: then be like, oh, it's episode seven nine or something.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, that's totally I could have recalled that instantly.
Speaker 3: That's fucking insane.
Speaker 1: So oh there it is, okay, So I shit your
Speaker 1: DNA is not fully human. That's what it's called. It's
Speaker 1: it was like a few weeks ago. Basically, it comes
Speaker 1: down to this, that two between for the average human,
Speaker 1: somewhere between two and nineteen percent of your DNA comes
Speaker 1: from an unknown species. That is a bold claim, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: but your DNA is not for all of us. It's
Speaker 1: not fully well, I guess fully human is. It's not
Speaker 1: fully human. It just isn't. Okay.
Speaker 3: Those evolutionists out there, they would say, well, do you
Speaker 3: mean monkey, that's where else the DNA comes from?
Speaker 1: Right, And no, that is not. That is not But
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not. Now. The other side of this,
Speaker 1: too is my disclaimers. I am not some sort of scientist.
Speaker 1: I am not. I am just a researcher. I just
Speaker 1: read a lot of shit and dig into scientific papers
Speaker 1: and all this shit like this. Right, so, about eight
Speaker 1: percent of your DNA did not come from a human being.
Speaker 1: It The best way to describe it is it came
Speaker 1: from a virus, an ancient infection that basically crawled into
Speaker 1: your ancestors sells millions of years ago, and it just
Speaker 1: never left. Right. It's still there right now, lodged in
Speaker 1: your genome, and some of it is actually keeping you alive.
Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like you're gonna need to break this
Speaker 3: them down a little bit more so. Ancient virus I
Speaker 3: got you sicknesses have been around for forever, right, correct,
Speaker 3: So it mutated our genetics or it became our genetics.
Speaker 1: Well, I would say it integrated itself, right, It integrated
Speaker 1: itself and it helped us. It's just like so one
Speaker 1: of the ways to describe this, well, it's not a theory.
Speaker 1: It's published peer reviewed, and I would never say settled science.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that. I hate that phrase.
Speaker 1: The science has settled, right, it's not, but now here
Speaker 1: it gets uncomfortable at the end of the day. Right
Speaker 1: on top of where that viral code, you also are
Speaker 1: carrying DNA from New Anderthals, from Desnovin's and from at
Speaker 1: least one other species that has no name, no bones,
Speaker 1: no fossils, none of it, and no explanations. Scientists have
Speaker 1: started calling them a ghost population. Right now. We also
Speaker 1: know of other like homoflorensis, we know of a you know,
Speaker 1: at one point on Earth there was something like six
Speaker 1: or seven different human the Homo something or others living
Speaker 1: together right, and they all enter bread.
Speaker 5: Yeah, did any alls bred with the earliest humans and.
Speaker 3: There's homorectus Homo sapiens, then we're Homo sapien sapiens.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So if you look at the tree of it, I
Speaker 5: think it started out with like twenty something the original groups.
Speaker 5: So what would happened is there's groups that branch into
Speaker 5: different groups and they started to die off in different
Speaker 5: areas and slowly that the tree started to get smaller smaller,
Speaker 5: which dwindled down.
Speaker 4: And that's kind of how when you look.
Speaker 5: At the evolutionary airy theory, that's kind of what happens.
Speaker 5: Is like there are certain specific groups that didn't make
Speaker 5: it for whatever reason. There was a virus that knocked
Speaker 5: out one of them and killed all of them all
Speaker 5: at once pretty much. And what he's talking about is
Speaker 5: referred to as the E E R V is what
Speaker 5: the type of virus, the virus, it's what he's talking about.
Speaker 5: It's a viral infection like a retrovirus that lives within
Speaker 5: It's been passed down and sextrally, Okay, so.
Speaker 1: Like you can like a lot of this stuff. It
Speaker 1: it keeps us alive, frankly, but it's a viral.
Speaker 5: They're viral sequencing. That's been it's a permanent part of
Speaker 5: the human genome. Interesting, that's been integrating to us.
Speaker 1: It isn't that wild?
Speaker 3: Could so from some sort of a weird STD from
Speaker 3: back in the day, And I don't mean STD particularly
Speaker 3: as we were thinking of it today, but like hear
Speaker 3: me out. You've seen the crudes, you know, oh, where
Speaker 3: a Homo sapien hooks up with a Homo erectus chick
Speaker 3: and her family that live in caves.
Speaker 2: And this is clearly answer breeding up the species here.
Speaker 3: Is it possible the cave chick had some sort of
Speaker 3: a weird like thing with her that jumped into him
Speaker 3: because they fucked, And now all of his kids and
Speaker 3: their kids now have a some sort of a strain
Speaker 3: of virus that they have no way of defending or
Speaker 3: fighting off, so they just adapted to it.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, that's that's kind of what she's saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they have.
Speaker 5: So there's like ninety eight thousand EERV elements in the
Speaker 5: human genome, which equivalents to eight percent of the DNA.
Speaker 5: It talks about the presence of them in the human
Speaker 5: genome and humans and primates. Is supports the theory of
Speaker 5: common ancestry. It is potential the remnants of the virus
Speaker 5: plays a key role in gene regulation and immune responses,
Speaker 5: and also the function of how DNA functions.
Speaker 4: They don't glad she pulled up because I didn't feel
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah, no, no.
Speaker 5: I was like, I know, I've heard of this because
Speaker 5: of because of doing the evolutionary theory stuff, but I
Speaker 5: was I haven't looked at it honestly in a very
Speaker 5: long time, so I wanted to kind of pull it
Speaker 5: back up and stuff.
Speaker 4: But this is something that is actually very heavily peer reviewed.
Speaker 5: So he is corrected that eight percent of the DNA
Speaker 5: does derive from retrovirus.
Speaker 3: So Caveman, dirty dick in it led to a virus
Speaker 3: that is still keeping us alive today.
Speaker 2: It's hot, and I know I'm oversimplifying it here, but I.
Speaker 4: Mean, no, dirty, but it's more it's more or like
Speaker 4: washing that ship.
Speaker 5: But you're talking about different viruses, like so, how how
Speaker 5: African Americans were immune that started to do inoculation?
Speaker 4: Yea inoculation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is something like where if you've been so,
Speaker 5: I've been exposed to tuberculosis, sure, like three separate times
Speaker 5: and I've been tested for it and stuff, and I
Speaker 5: have the antibodies for it, and like so I will
Speaker 5: forever have the antibodies and so forth. There's certain types
Speaker 5: of viruses that have been around for a long time
Speaker 5: that you will be able to pass on the immunity
Speaker 5: to another, to your children, and then so forth and
Speaker 5: so forth. Now, there's a lot of different things that
Speaker 5: have happened where people have that, but this is talking
Speaker 5: about something that has changed our actual genome makeup. Like
Speaker 5: it's so ingrained in what makes a human a human
Speaker 5: at this point that is going to be forever within us.
Speaker 3: Are That's a two way street though, to say that, like,
Speaker 3: there are certain, like you said, certain immunities that you
Speaker 3: can pass down genetically as well as there are certain
Speaker 3: sicknesses you could pass down genetically as well to your children.
Speaker 3: So like that's that's a two way street.
Speaker 4: Yes, but oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean like genetic diseases, right, Yes, they're
Speaker 1: the same thing, it's just a different But.
Speaker 5: This is this is the structural makeup of what we
Speaker 5: as humans look like now.
Speaker 3: So for that to have been so ingrained into our
Speaker 3: DNA that I mean less than ten percent, give or take.
Speaker 3: But even still eight percent you said nine.
Speaker 4: It's a lot actually.
Speaker 1: To considering that our bodies are basically controlled by about
Speaker 1: two percent, Yeah, of our genome. Yeah that yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 3: So with that, how much I'm trying to find a
Speaker 3: way to not be crude with it? So there with me,
Speaker 3: how much cross contamination slash, inner breeding, slash, whatever you
Speaker 3: want to call it, over what course of time? Because
Speaker 3: I understand whether we're looking at it from an evolutionary standpoint,
Speaker 3: or if this virus was so effective and so vicious
Speaker 3: that it could attach and do the mutation to where
Speaker 3: in one generation that did its effects we're talking about
Speaker 3: either over the course of a few hundred years, or if.
Speaker 2: It was that intentional.
Speaker 3: I guess it was a one stop shop and it
Speaker 3: just jumped like that and we really have no way
Speaker 3: of knowing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't. I mean, it's it's one of those
Speaker 1: things that it's one of those things that piqued my
Speaker 1: interest enough that it was because I don't really go there,
Speaker 1: but there's there are some people that think that that's
Speaker 1: stuff that was embedded. Right, if we want to go
Speaker 1: full conspiracy on it, that it could be. It could be,
Speaker 1: it could be aliens. It could be anything. It could
Speaker 1: be we don't know. But the bottom line is is, yeah.
Speaker 5: That conversation we just had about Smerians and there of humans.
Speaker 5: So remember how they needed the blood and they created
Speaker 5: humans from the blood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well here here's a really cool example. Right, So
Speaker 1: the does does novens, which we all know existed and
Speaker 1: a lot of people. So they're from the highland regions
Speaker 1: in Siberia, you know, Russia, from from Russia all the
Speaker 1: way over into the highlands of the Himalayas, right, and
Speaker 1: they lived there for hundreds of thousands of years allegedly, right, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 1: But because this is all theory, right, we don't know shit.
Speaker 1: Bottom line, but this is what we think. They have
Speaker 1: a gene and you can look at look it up.
Speaker 1: There's a they have a part of their gene allows
Speaker 1: them to handle and thrive at altitude. Right, And we
Speaker 1: as Homo sapiens, when we interbred with them, that passed
Speaker 1: on to those you know, those people, and so in essence,
Speaker 1: the parts we are, our bodies are very good at
Speaker 1: keeping the parts that are useful to us in our
Speaker 1: genome but discarding all the bullshit, right, And that's one
Speaker 1: of the examples, So why wouldn't it do that with viruses?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it do that with all environmental shit that
Speaker 1: we have? Or it's one of those things where you
Speaker 1: have the freaking ananaki for whoever, god, whatever the gods
Speaker 1: that manipulate all of that, which is very well possible too,
Speaker 1: because part of this whole story, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to go off on a tangent, is go ahead, something
Speaker 1: something's fucking going on here, guys, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know what. Everyone's beliefs are, their beliefs, This is fine,
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is is every culture, every continent,
Speaker 1: every single religion, all have origin stories that fucking rhyme, yeah,
Speaker 1: period it right across geography, time, all the factors, and
Speaker 1: they all rhyme in almost every damn one of them
Speaker 1: has a flood myth. Right, So what that being said,
Speaker 1: that's just like ripe for you know all that, and
Speaker 1: and within those, all of those cultures, folkal and or
Speaker 1: religious text, there seems to be a lot of possible
Speaker 1: genetic manipulation going on, right Why, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't have the answers to all these things, but this
Speaker 1: is what brought this up. For me, and this is
Speaker 1: why I even headed down this road was because of
Speaker 1: all this shit and some of it's based on provable
Speaker 1: I guess, and that's such a loaded word too, but
Speaker 1: as mainstream science will whatever. But the bottom line is
Speaker 1: like evolution technically is a theory as well, it's not
Speaker 1: you know, the science is not settled because what's the
Speaker 1: difference between evolution and adaptation? Right? And is what cut right?
Speaker 1: So so it's it's one of those things that is
Speaker 1: loose as far as I see. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't have two hours of ship on this, but
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that Ravens researching read. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is because it does open up cans
Speaker 1: of worms. Man like this type of stuff. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: part of part of this episode that I'm talking about
Speaker 1: is also the gene the Sasquatch Genome project, which I
Speaker 1: know two of the guys that collected DNA for this,
Speaker 1: and they're stand up guys that aren't going to bullshit
Speaker 1: people about the samples, right, And I'm not saying Bigfoot is.
Speaker 1: I know Bigfoot's real because I've had Okay.
Speaker 4: I want to hear about it.
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen the big guy right in front
Speaker 1: of me on two separate occasions. I'm getting goosebumps just
Speaker 1: thinking about it because it scares the absolute shit out
Speaker 1: of me. But yet I can't stop going out in
Speaker 1: the woods right and trying to. Do you think that
Speaker 1: I don't even go out there trying to. I don't
Speaker 1: even go out there trying to fucking get pictures or
Speaker 1: anything anymore. I'm just hanging out. It's like I bring
Speaker 1: people out so they can have an encounter. Shit, do you.
Speaker 5: Think that they are peaceful or do you think that
Speaker 5: they are not? Because we've had people on that like
Speaker 5: they think they're just homies, and we've had other people
Speaker 5: think that they're just not like something.
Speaker 1: Fine with I think it's it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: I don't I think they're more than flesh and blood
Speaker 1: period because I've had experiences that have told me otherwise.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I can't say what they are.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But if you had two gun to your head, would
Speaker 3: you say that? And let's say, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you're going spiritual ethereal Aaron dimension, I don't know what
Speaker 3: direction you're going.
Speaker 2: And that's fine.
Speaker 3: We don't need to classify Yeah. What I will ask
Speaker 3: you is, do you believe that, I mean, either way
Speaker 3: you want to cut it, there's a side of good
Speaker 3: and the side of evil. We're talking air dimensional, we're
Speaker 3: talking to ethereal, angel, demon whatever. Do you believe that
Speaker 3: the Sam squench is more on the side of the
Speaker 3: good and the light or the negative and the evil.
Speaker 3: Because we've heard very, very conflicting stories about this from experts,
Speaker 3: no matter what way you go. Native Americans have said, oh,
Speaker 3: these are force spirits, and then there are those will say, oh, no,
Speaker 3: these are demonic spirits. And now I've had Christians come
Speaker 3: on the show that say these are clearly nephelum, and
Speaker 3: also Christians come on the show saying these are clearly angels.
Speaker 2: There's no right or wrong on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I honestly, the interactions that I've had were
Speaker 1: not They were not. I wouldn't say I got warm fuzzies, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can tell you that, but I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: full blown. Uh. I kind of err on the side
Speaker 1: of that. They're more of like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: their fucking purpose would be other than as like beasts
Speaker 1: of the field, like the theory on I don't know
Speaker 1: what why, why else would they exist unless they were
Speaker 1: a RelA commond. But where we're going with this is
Speaker 1: that So what I brought up with the Sascotch genome
Speaker 1: project is that the end of findings, which everyone has
Speaker 1: their you know, people will people can test this DNA
Speaker 1: study all the time, okay, but if you look at
Speaker 1: the paper, it was pretty rigorous, and you had you
Speaker 1: had people testing these this DNA at laboratories that don't
Speaker 1: fuck around, and they didn't know what they were testing, Okay,
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of blind testing going on
Speaker 1: of hundreds of samples. They have a few fully built
Speaker 1: out genomes, right, And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what ended up the results were that you had the
Speaker 1: mitochondrial DNA, which is the side the female side came
Speaker 1: back as a from a halotrope that was like fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand years ago in the Middle East, as a female
Speaker 1: human Homo sapien. Right. But they they could put it
Speaker 1: into a box, right and say this is where this
Speaker 1: DNA came from. The nuclear side. There's no no match,
Speaker 1: no match at all, So what the fuck does that?
Speaker 1: That's the and that's the male side, that's the father side.
Speaker 1: So of course people go directly, and they kind of
Speaker 1: did this in the in the study because you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's some nephlium ship, right, that that's that's
Speaker 1: what people would say, right. But I think that's a
Speaker 1: pretty big leap.
Speaker 3: I see where they're coming to that conclusion from, right.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, that's a bold strip I mean.
Speaker 1: There, but because because I think there's other markers within
Speaker 1: that nuclear DNA that show that it's probably an unknown
Speaker 1: hominid of some sort, right, or like maybe it's ghost
Speaker 1: the ghost DNA. It's it's from an unknown hamedid that
Speaker 1: we just don't know about because of course, in our
Speaker 1: perfect arrogance as humans, we think we know ship, right,
Speaker 1: But we don't know ship. We don't. We really don't.
Speaker 1: And and that's that's such a cop out excuse for
Speaker 1: me to say that. At the end of the day too,
Speaker 1: I think we need to you know, humble ourselves and
Speaker 1: think that we have everything figured out. But with that being.
Speaker 5: Said, in this study, in this study, where did they
Speaker 5: get the DNA from? Like, I actually don't know the
Speaker 5: study that you're speaking of. So that's why I'm kind
Speaker 5: of curious in the sense of.
Speaker 1: I can send it to you guys, if you want to.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to say, I just wanted to kind
Speaker 5: of understand what you're talking about. They had hundreds of samples,
Speaker 5: so I was just where do they get the actual
Speaker 5: DNA from them?
Speaker 4: Linked? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard, you guys know who David plates is,
Speaker 1: the Missing One guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but he.
Speaker 1: Does a lot of Sasquatch stuff as well. So he's
Speaker 1: one of the people that gathered evidence with another gentleman
Speaker 1: named Scott Carpenter. Do you guys know who Scott Carpenter is?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Scott Carpenter is is a He was from
Speaker 1: eastern Tennessee, a huge in the in the Sasquatch community,
Speaker 1: wrote a ship a books. His son is one of
Speaker 1: the coolest dudes I've ever met too, who's currently doing
Speaker 1: He does more survival stuff than sasque sta. But they
Speaker 1: were the two main gatherers of evidence, and they would
Speaker 1: do literally things like take like duct tape or packing
Speaker 1: tape and wrap it around trees right sticky side out
Speaker 1: because what they found is that they needed to get
Speaker 1: the skin tag with the hair because a hair, now
Speaker 1: human hair, you can pull DNA from it. Right, they
Speaker 1: were getting these hairs without skin tags that they look
Speaker 1: totally different under the microscope. Yeah right, and they could
Speaker 1: pull no DNA from them, So what the what is that?
Speaker 1: You know? Until they would get these skin tags. Now,
Speaker 1: they did all types of technique to get the DNA,
Speaker 1: Like they would put out candy bars right to get
Speaker 1: sliva samples. They what they found is that they would
Speaker 1: eat a candy bar, but they'd put the whole wrapper
Speaker 1: in their mouth. They would chew it up and then
Speaker 1: they'd pull the wrapper out and throw it on the ground.
Speaker 1: So they were getting SLIVA samples that way, getting hair
Speaker 1: samples by setting up traps on so there's food way
Speaker 1: up high where they'd have to reach and rub against
Speaker 1: the stuff and it would rip their hair out. Just
Speaker 1: all kinds of different techniques to get these samples of
Speaker 1: hair sliva. And I guess they even got a piece
Speaker 1: of flesh where a woman had witnessed a I think
Speaker 1: it was a sasquatch going after like either her chickens
Speaker 1: or some sort of livestock, had then gotten scared by
Speaker 1: either one of her dogs or by her or something,
Speaker 1: and then rubbed up against a metal fence and it
Speaker 1: like tore a chunk out of its shoulder and she
Speaker 1: collected that and called David Plaids or something. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's all these stories.
Speaker 2: Now, a lot of this is in.
Speaker 1: Because there's a few books the Sasquatch DNA Study by
Speaker 1: Scott Carpenter. It's by Scott Carpenter, and he goes through
Speaker 1: a ton of I mean, it's it's it's an amazing book.
Speaker 1: And if you've never read it, I would even if
Speaker 1: it's all bullshit, it's a great story. Right.
Speaker 5: So they collected them in the same locations, like the they.
Speaker 1: Are a couple of different locations.
Speaker 5: Right, because from other people that we've talked to, like
Speaker 5: some people they have them come on like specific spots
Speaker 5: over and over again. People they've they don't stay and
Speaker 5: they kind of go all over the place.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: I don't really know how I feel about them specific
Speaker 5: like staying in certain areas.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like they're migratory. I think it depends
Speaker 1: though I.
Speaker 4: Feel like they are moving constantly.
Speaker 5: I don't think that they would stay in one spot
Speaker 5: unless they have this whole portal thing with the trees,
Speaker 5: and maybe the trees are the portals, like Old Boy said,
Speaker 5: or there's you know, they're they're they're opening dimensions and
Speaker 5: walking through back and forth. Because to be able to
Speaker 5: not be found by humans and like really found and exploited,
Speaker 5: that's that's pushing a lot of things. I mean, unless
Speaker 5: they're like predator out there that we're freaking the camouflaging
Speaker 5: techniques like that they I mean, well.
Speaker 3: So, and you're gonna correct me on this, I understand,
Speaker 3: but bear with me. Louisiana has panthers, yes, raven I know,
Speaker 3: not actual panthers from Africa, which are actually dark leopards. No, no, No,
Speaker 3: we have dark mountain lion slash, cougar slash, or the
Speaker 3: fuck you want to call it. A long tail cat
Speaker 3: the size of a fucking pit bowl that lives in
Speaker 3: the Bayous in Louisiana.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's our version of dogmen.
Speaker 3: No, the panthers in Florida, No exactly. They absolutely live
Speaker 3: in the Everglades and we have them here as well.
Speaker 3: And so you look at wildlife, game and fisheries in Louisiana,
Speaker 3: they will say that no, they do not. However, I
Speaker 3: have hundreds of guys that have farmland all over the
Speaker 3: state that have these cats on their trail camps, and
Speaker 3: they sit like, oh conspiracy, No, no, we have them.
Speaker 3: Why the wildlife and fisheries won't just acknowledge that. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like we don't have cougars in upstate New York.
Speaker 1: Yes you do, Yes, the right, exactly get it.
Speaker 3: We have these creatures and and I have seen one
Speaker 3: of them twice in my life, and a lot of
Speaker 3: hunters will tell you know, we've seen them.
Speaker 2: But they don't mess with people.
Speaker 3: They're elusive, like you're never You're never gonna get attacked
Speaker 3: by one. They they way before you ever think you
Speaker 3: see Oh god, no, they they are living and hunting
Speaker 3: in these woods. You're not going to sneak up all one.
Speaker 3: But that being said, I'm thinking that the sam squanch
Speaker 3: might be very similar to these panthers. Not to mention,
Speaker 3: they can travel with like fifty miles or fifteen, I
Speaker 3: don't know miles in one day, and they travel alone.
Speaker 3: They don't do pack formations. I am of the belief
Speaker 3: that sam squench, if in fact they are real living
Speaker 3: out in these woods, it would make way more sense
Speaker 3: to me that they would travel in isolation, and they
Speaker 3: would travel very quickly and stick to very densely wooded
Speaker 3: areas to avoid detection, and that they are way better
Speaker 3: at picking up on us than we are picking up
Speaker 3: on them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now the bottom line is, I again, I only
Speaker 1: have one. I've had a face to face with a
Speaker 1: sasquatche Us twelve years Yeah, so I was twelve years old,
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve. It's like nineteen eighty something, right. I
Speaker 1: am a boy scout, you know, like in Illinois in
Speaker 1: a we were at a camp. It was called Camp Heffernan,
Speaker 1: and it's not that anymore. I can't remember what it's
Speaker 1: called now, but it's on Lake Bloomington, all right. There
Speaker 1: is Native American stories of Sasquatch going back hundreds of
Speaker 1: you know, a thousand years in that area too. So
Speaker 1: one day it's me and two other boys. I was
Speaker 1: the oldest that They were probably nine or ten. I
Speaker 1: was twelve. Yeah, I was twelve, and we were walking
Speaker 1: to eat dinner essentially, but we were late, so we
Speaker 1: were kind of running kind of, but we were running. Now,
Speaker 1: there is a what you would call hedgerows right that
Speaker 1: run along the either side of a road that runs
Speaker 1: down to the water. And what we would do from
Speaker 1: where we would camp we would camp in this pine
Speaker 1: forest that was off to the w just so we
Speaker 1: because we could choose where we camped, but we had
Speaker 1: the camp as a squad, right, so my squad always
Speaker 1: picked this pine forest. Well, the easiest way to get
Speaker 1: because we're lazy boys. We didn't want to take the
Speaker 1: extra hundred feet and walk around the hedgerows. We would
Speaker 1: crawl under them, right, and then we'd cross a road
Speaker 1: and then we'd crawl under another set and that would
Speaker 1: go into this big field. It was a parade field.
Speaker 1: That's where it was. Well, we were running and to
Speaker 1: get to before you hit the first head row, there
Speaker 1: was like a little drainage ditch which a lot of
Speaker 1: times would have water running down, you know, to the
Speaker 1: to the lake, but you had to jump this to
Speaker 1: get to the header and there was probably about a
Speaker 1: four foot gap between the water and the hedgerow. Now
Speaker 1: we were running. I was running, not not full speed,
Speaker 1: but running, and it hit me like a wave of
Speaker 1: just awful. It was the smell. The smell hit me first,
Speaker 1: and it was it was like a it was like
Speaker 1: a mix of like just wet dog and like d
Speaker 1: comp and like uh, you know that nasty bacteria water.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, you guys would know in Louisiana
Speaker 1: or fucking swamp water right growing up.
Speaker 2: I know, people, Yeah, just mixed.
Speaker 1: With I did plenty of that ship at le June
Speaker 1: was off, so but that's the smell mixed with like animal,
Speaker 1: like a wet dog or whatever. It just hit me
Speaker 1: like a wave, and holy shit, well I jumped. I
Speaker 1: was like mid air when I hit me and I landed.
Speaker 1: And when that when I landed, I literally you could
Speaker 1: these headrows were about ten feet tall. Okay, something A
Speaker 1: sasquatch peeled these things apart like it was nothing. The
Speaker 1: sun was behind them because we were headed west, and
Speaker 1: it was this perfect silhouette of a it had to
Speaker 1: have been about eight feet tall because the headrows were
Speaker 1: ten and it peeled these things open and let out
Speaker 1: this fucking roar that like blew my head back. I
Speaker 1: could feel it as much as I could. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: hear it. I hear the other two boys just scream
Speaker 1: and head the other door. Well, they head to the right,
Speaker 1: but I'm like frozen, and I just see this perfect
Speaker 1: silhouette of a freaking sasquatch standing right in front of me. Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm getting serious freaking goosebumps just thinking about it.
Speaker 2: So they saw this too, You weren't alone.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the other two and I'll tell you one
Speaker 1: of them. Uh, he was never right after that, he
Speaker 1: was totally like he they called his parents, he went home. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I saw him maybe two or three times after that,
Speaker 1: and he was just never right mentally again, straight up,
Speaker 1: ended up on drugs. And I ended up dying, passing
Speaker 1: away really young. And the other kid would he him
Speaker 1: and I had a conversation and acknowledged it that that evening,
Speaker 1: that night when we told everybody what happened, and from
Speaker 1: that point on we never talked about it again. I
Speaker 1: also moved two years later. But he like was like no, no, nah,
Speaker 1: you know, like he wouldn't admit it Illinois.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we had our homie from timp foil sales.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't Illinois classified into that triangle?
Speaker 2: Not the Bridgewater Triangle?
Speaker 1: Is it now? Bridgewaters and Vermont?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the northeast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: So what's the he.
Speaker 3: Said there was a triangle around the Great Lakes. He
Speaker 3: was talking about that with us.
Speaker 2: Damn it.
Speaker 5: YEP, I don't remember, but we've had a couple of people.
Speaker 5: I mean, but you were saying about them being solo creatures.
Speaker 4: But we've had old.
Speaker 5: Boy that hunts them, had that whole experience where he
Speaker 5: had a whole bunch of them triangulate on him.
Speaker 1: Remember him, And I've had I've had friends the same
Speaker 1: thing happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then he and then we had another person
Speaker 5: tell us that there was more than one Scott had,
Speaker 5: like a whole family. And then we had another person
Speaker 5: that we talked to as well that they were like
Speaker 5: bunched up in a couple of them. I don't think
Speaker 5: that they are. They have to be using some type
Speaker 5: of camouflaging technique. They have to be doing right or
Speaker 5: interdimensional like they are strategic when it comes to I
Speaker 5: think showing or exposing themselves like they've lasted this long,
Speaker 5: especially with all the drone technology and all the trail
Speaker 5: camps and all the everything, it stands to reason that
Speaker 5: they are well.
Speaker 1: So one of the things I can tell you that
Speaker 1: because we do an active sasquatch encounter, you know, we
Speaker 1: try to have encounters, not we don't go out like
Speaker 1: knocking and whooping anymore. We don't do that because I
Speaker 1: find that if I just we just act naturally and
Speaker 1: hang out by the campfire, that naturally they'll come to us.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine these sasquads just like, bro, what are
Speaker 3: these people doing?
Speaker 1: Right? Like? Bro? What?
Speaker 5: And I don't yeah, like the you know you're could
Speaker 5: you imagine them like standing behind them, like should.
Speaker 4: We throw something at them?
Speaker 5: Like meanwhile, meanwhile, predators, Like fuck, these creatures aren't even
Speaker 5: worth taking their freaking signs from, like God, blessed?
Speaker 2: Have you seen them?
Speaker 3: He and Peel skit where it's like these two black
Speaker 3: guys are wearing white face.
Speaker 2: They're in Nazi Germany and.
Speaker 3: The Gestapo guys like so we had some nicros and
Speaker 3: and they're like, no, none.
Speaker 2: Here, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Bits A research shows that no African American can deny
Speaker 3: the beats is their favorite vegetable.
Speaker 2: And they're like, uh no, all good? What about this
Speaker 2: cat toy? They're like, what, I feel like the sasquad?
Speaker 2: You've never seen this skip?
Speaker 4: I have not. I have not, but I feel like
Speaker 4: that that's probably what this is.
Speaker 3: He goes down the list of like four different things
Speaker 3: like they're test to see if these two guys are
Speaker 3: black who.
Speaker 2: Clearly have short froze and are wearing white.
Speaker 3: Face clearly, but it's just like they're like a Nope,
Speaker 3: I think we're all good here, thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 2: That's the sasquatch. Watch these people in the woods.
Speaker 1: Whoop?
Speaker 2: Like are they in a fucking insane clown posse concert?
Speaker 1: Whoop? Whoop? Like what? I had another incident very similar
Speaker 1: to the first one in Alaska too, really so yeah,
Speaker 1: almost identical, but uh like nine years later.
Speaker 5: Have you actually gotten to see and well the whole
Speaker 5: so you just saw the silhouette again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the silhouette again, but this one you could actually
Speaker 1: see like it wasn't like full blown like I've got
Speaker 1: a spotlight on them features, but the size, uh, and
Speaker 1: you know it was just very very humanoid, like very
Speaker 1: classics sasquatch, right silhouette and then like uh like facial
Speaker 1: features that weren't it wasn't it wasn't eight, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't human. So it's just like terrifying, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: So that in Alaska and then I one of the
Speaker 1: dumbest things I've ever done in my life. We do
Speaker 1: a lot of research. I say, we it's me and
Speaker 1: a bunch of other idiots that go to the Alleghany
Speaker 1: National Force. Now, the Alleghany National Force is terrifying place anyway.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just full of high strangeness. It's in
Speaker 1: western northwestern Pennsylvania, everything from UFOs to it's it's one
Speaker 1: of those places where they flooded all kinds of ship
Speaker 1: to make a reservoir. So there was Indian villages and
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. This.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've heard about this place a lot, honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got all those places in eastern Tennessee like
Speaker 1: that with the Tennessee Valley Authority, the same type of stuff.
Speaker 1: But so this is in the Alleghany National Forest, so
Speaker 1: lots of Sasquatch stuff, like, I mean, there's just wild
Speaker 1: shit going on in there. Period. There's like deep underground
Speaker 1: military base rumors stuff like in the region. Not necessarily
Speaker 1: right there, but all the things kind of converge into
Speaker 1: this little place of high strangeness. And I say a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's vast. It's huge, and there's definitely places
Speaker 1: where humans just haven't been in a long time, like
Speaker 1: or are very infrequent, like where we camp. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just like there's probably six to seven months out
Speaker 1: of the year where there's not one human back there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's and it's remote and it takes you know,
Speaker 1: once you leave a hardball road, it's about a thirty
Speaker 1: five minute drive to get to our campsite. Okay, and
Speaker 1: that's you know, like twenty miles an hour or twenty
Speaker 1: five on a gravel road, right, yea, So we're out
Speaker 1: in the middle. So we we've had tons of I've
Speaker 1: got people that have so you have Class A sidings,
Speaker 1: Class B sidings, right, class C sidings, but Class A
Speaker 1: is an actual visual siding, right, and from that area
Speaker 1: of people that we do, we have two I don't
Speaker 1: have any Class A sidings there, but there's two people
Speaker 1: that do that I know. But we have tons of
Speaker 1: Class B. So we talk and Class B is sounds,
Speaker 1: vocalizations things like that. And we've had a few incidents
Speaker 1: of like there's there's a perfect area and it's kind
Speaker 1: of creepy. It's like this old I don't know if
Speaker 1: it used to be a military like something military used
Speaker 1: to go on there, because it's it's a mountain, right,
Speaker 1: but there is it's gated, like there's no like you
Speaker 1: can get up there. Have gone I've gone up there,
Speaker 1: but I found like old clearing barrels and just military
Speaker 1: signage up there, you know when I'm talking about guys. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's indistinguishable from anything else. And I'm like, why is
Speaker 1: this shit up here? Right? So who knows. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was National Guard whatever, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but either way, behind this fence, there's this ridge line
Speaker 1: that overlooks our campsite, and we don't fuck with it
Speaker 1: because we're like, this would be the perfect place for
Speaker 1: them to sit and just watch us. So we give
Speaker 1: them all that high ground. And because we do that,
Speaker 1: and we're basically like, yeah, like come, you know, hang out,
Speaker 1: not like come hang out. We just aren't aggressive, we're
Speaker 1: not assholes out there. We don't we don't drink, we
Speaker 1: don't do drugs, we don't, you know, We're basically trying
Speaker 1: to be as like kumbayas absolutely possible, and that has
Speaker 1: worked for us very well to get what we think
Speaker 1: our sasquatch to come in very close and they'll get
Speaker 1: you know, we've gotten stuff thrown at us, We've gotten
Speaker 1: tons of vocalizations where it literally it's a freaking there's
Speaker 1: monkeys in the woods. That's what it sounds like. It's
Speaker 1: not bard owls, it's not coyotes. It's freaking like if
Speaker 1: you were to click on YouTube right now and type
Speaker 1: in chimpanzees fighting, yeah, in the woods, that's what it
Speaker 1: would sound like multiple times.
Speaker 3: And it's always like mushrooms would not make them want
Speaker 3: to come hang with y'all.
Speaker 1: I mean they might, they might. True, we got the
Speaker 1: stone dates the stone da Yeah, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day that it works
Speaker 1: for us and we get Now with that being said,
Speaker 1: I actually use trail cams to deter them so they
Speaker 1: don't fuck with me at night when I sleep, because
Speaker 1: before we started, before I started using infrared cameras as deterrent,
Speaker 1: they things would come up and mess with tents and
Speaker 1: campers and all the stuff that we would bring out there.
Speaker 1: And we've got pictures of handprints, like giant freaking handprints
Speaker 1: on the side of campers stuff like that, Like we'll
Speaker 1: dust them for fingerprints and whatnot. And there's dermal ridges
Speaker 1: and we've got footprints all kinds of stuff from this area.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt in my mind at all. Now.
Speaker 1: The dumbest thing I've ever done. When it came to
Speaker 1: Sasquatch was one of my buddies, good buddies. The guy
Speaker 1: that I was talking about going to How did I
Speaker 1: bring this up to you guys? No, I didn't. I'm
Speaker 1: getting either way. He's a marine as well, and he
Speaker 1: had pro He's got property up in what's called the
Speaker 1: tug Hill Plateau, which is north of Syracuse where I live,
Speaker 1: and it is wild There's nothing out there. It's just
Speaker 1: wilderness like upstate New York. You know the Adirondack Mountains.
Speaker 1: It's it's the it's the foothills of the Adirondacks. Right.
Speaker 1: So he's got one hundred acres or he had unfortunately
Speaker 1: divorce now and they had to sell it. But we
Speaker 1: were convinced he had had a couple incidents where things
Speaker 1: bluff charged him. He's got two giant Great Pyrenees dogs,
Speaker 1: the big white dogs, who if anything even goes near
Speaker 1: his property they bark and always have Well, these dogs
Speaker 1: would not they would freaking retreat. And if they're retreating
Speaker 1: from whatever this is, it's something fierce. It's not a
Speaker 1: black bear, it's not any of this other shit. And
Speaker 1: he got what you would call bluff charged in his
Speaker 1: backyard by something. He couldn't see it visually obviously, but
Speaker 1: it was giant bonfire. But that's this is the this
Speaker 1: is the incident that kind of put me over the
Speaker 1: edge to go out and check out his property. So
Speaker 1: we found a couple different signs that there could be
Speaker 1: something going on. And he has this bridge that goes
Speaker 1: across the stream, because the property is broken in half
Speaker 1: by a trout stream that runs down the middle, and
Speaker 1: he had a bridge that goes over. Now, we went over.
Speaker 1: He brought me out there and we went over the bridge,
Speaker 1: checked out the far side. I'm sensitive to I'm not
Speaker 1: like psychic or you know, some medium or something, but
Speaker 1: I am sensitive to energies. I just I'm a reiki practitioner.
Speaker 1: And there's another story where I drowned in the Marine
Speaker 1: corps and after that I've been able to see auras
Speaker 1: since then. That's a whole other story though. Wow, it's
Speaker 1: all fucked up. But with that being said, something's definitely
Speaker 1: going on on the far side of his property, and
Speaker 1: it was. It was freaky. We could feel it. I
Speaker 1: tried to discern what I thought, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we came back across the Within
Speaker 1: two days, we went back out because I was gonna
Speaker 1: we were gonna spend the night out there in camp
Speaker 1: and just do you know, proper investigation, proper whatever. Well,
Speaker 1: the bridge is torn down, okay, and it was definitely
Speaker 1: not just natural. Oh it's old and it broke. Nope,
Speaker 1: because he had fixed that bridge not that long before that.
Speaker 1: It was sturdy as shit. Something tore it down so
Speaker 1: we couldn't get to the other side. That's that's my theory. Now.
Speaker 1: About a month after that, I decided I was going
Speaker 1: to go out there and do a proper investigation by
Speaker 1: my well, he was supposed to come out with me,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. Him and his wife were fighting whatever.
Speaker 1: I ended up doing it by myself, and uh, that
Speaker 1: was just stupid, really dumb out in the middle of
Speaker 1: the woods by myself. Darkest shit I had. So I
Speaker 1: have a thermal camera that hooks to the iPhones, right,
Speaker 1: so I have two iPhones. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: have the idea with the other one right here. So
Speaker 1: I have both of these phones fully charged, you know,
Speaker 1: like one's a reload remag you know, and I'm setting
Speaker 1: up a camera trap for this freaking Sasquatch' that's my plan. Now,
Speaker 1: our little campsite that we have, we have a fence
Speaker 1: around it. It's not going to keep anything out, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna stop something from just coming up and like
Speaker 1: fucking with our tent, right, And so I set up
Speaker 1: cameras to cover all of the fence line except for
Speaker 1: about this eight foot swath, which the tent is set
Speaker 1: up right there. I've got it. So the window is
Speaker 1: right there at this eight foot swath. I've got a
Speaker 1: and or two tied to the fence, so I know
Speaker 1: something touches it, it's gonna, you know, rattle the can.
Speaker 1: So I've basically got this sucker. If it's coming, it's
Speaker 1: going to funnel right to this spot. Yeah, and it does.
Speaker 1: And I can hear it coming up from the creek.
Speaker 1: It's like one in the morning. I'm already got my camera.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was. The loom was like an existent
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was. It was an absolute nightmare.
Speaker 1: So I've got this thermal all set. I hear it
Speaker 1: come up to and actually put its hands on the
Speaker 1: I can't see it, but it put its hands up
Speaker 1: on the on the fence. Because the fence rattled. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy shit, like my.
Speaker 4: Chest is oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I bring up the camera like this it goes dead?
Speaker 4: What it goes completely dead?
Speaker 1: Goes completely dead like some ghost hunter paranormal EVP. Shit right,
Speaker 1: that's but I have this planned because I'm like, this
Speaker 1: could happen because I you know, boom, I pull out
Speaker 1: this other phone, pull the thermo out, plug it in,
Speaker 1: powers up, boom breaking the guy goes dead.
Speaker 4: Not you like you're by yourself with nothing.
Speaker 1: Not just drained. Yeah I'm not not just dead like
Speaker 1: it didn't like just shut off it. They're drained. So
Speaker 1: now I actually I pull my weapon at that point
Speaker 1: because I'm like, holy shit, I'm freaking what have I done?
Speaker 1: This is what I'm thinking in my brain, like what
Speaker 1: have I done? I'm scared to ship. I didn't like
Speaker 1: to start pulling the trigger or anything, but I I
Speaker 1: really thought about it. And all I really remember at
Speaker 1: that point is sitting there for about the next hour
Speaker 1: just shitting. I can't, like, this was really.
Speaker 5: Fucking did you did you actually end up seeing it
Speaker 5: or did it stopshead of you?
Speaker 1: No? No, it because it didn't come any farther than
Speaker 1: the fence right, and I it the thermal failed and
Speaker 1: it was so dark that I couldn't see out the
Speaker 1: freaking thing. Wow. Uh so.
Speaker 4: Yeah it probably did.
Speaker 1: One of my flashlights was dead too, totally freaking exact,
Speaker 1: so I yeah. So I was just like, I'm never
Speaker 1: doing that ship again. I mean, and people, I you know,
Speaker 1: I've fed people straight up be like yeah, you're full ship,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can care what you say because
Speaker 1: that's one of the scariest experiences of my fucking life period.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm going to be in the woods hunting for the
Speaker 5: sam Scranch anytime.
Speaker 2: Isn't there like a part of your people's culture.
Speaker 5: To be fair, I will say that I have been
Speaker 5: in the woods a lot in my life, and I
Speaker 5: have a.
Speaker 4: Healthy respect for the woods.
Speaker 5: So you know, it's one of those things if I'm
Speaker 5: not going, just like with ghosts and everything else, haven't
Speaker 5: have said many times like I'm not out there fucking
Speaker 5: with them or looking for them, Like if they're there,
Speaker 5: just be like cool, I'm just I'm here vibing. You
Speaker 5: can vibe over there. We just vibe in the same area,
Speaker 5: but not together.
Speaker 1: So now I use the freaking cameras as the turrent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's been proven to me that now that I
Speaker 1: do that, none of our shit gets sucked with. Do
Speaker 1: you think that they can have a rooftop ten? Do
Speaker 1: you think they can sell? I do I think that they.
Speaker 1: I think they can. I don't know why. I just
Speaker 1: I just I just because otherwise, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: don't know why they would avoid it otherwise.
Speaker 2: So that I got an experiment for you.
Speaker 3: Next time you happen to be out in the woods,
Speaker 3: you know, dicking off with the Sam squant or whatever
Speaker 3: it is, you create infrared crayons.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing it out.
Speaker 3: Maybe set up a little a little bored out there
Speaker 3: and make some symbol.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they write English or And.
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree with you, and I'm working on it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is that actually the reason for the for the crayons?
Speaker 3: You say it's for the military?
Speaker 1: No, it's not. No, but it is a cool thing.
Speaker 1: So I've thought about that too. I was like, because
Speaker 1: next time I'm that I go out, well this it'll
Speaker 1: be soon actually about a month. I'm bringing out a
Speaker 1: like the not not plywood, but the particle the stuff
Speaker 1: that it's not. It's because you can write on it.
Speaker 1: It's the right, but it is would it's just like
Speaker 1: the like, what the hell do they call it? It's
Speaker 1: it's sort of like that, but it's like the it's
Speaker 1: like the it's you know, like a quarter inch and
Speaker 1: it's it's just nicer than plod ship. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, the little fucking art station right for Saskatch.
Speaker 1: Saskatch can draw with an infrared cran.
Speaker 2: They got hieroglyphs or something that they'll write on it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Why do you think that they've avoided us so hard
Speaker 5: because I see what we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's one of those things like
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm like, I feel like they're
Speaker 1: not And this is why I get caught up with
Speaker 1: the biblical stuff a little bit with them, because it's
Speaker 1: like they're not allowed to interact like completely, like it's
Speaker 1: not sanctioned. Right.
Speaker 3: I guess it's the word toys aren't allowed to speak
Speaker 3: to humans kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Right, maybe because they could be the theory on now
Speaker 1: there's there's a few people that have had different interviews
Speaker 1: with people that allegedly were able to do the mind
Speaker 1: speak with these people have heard of. One of the
Speaker 1: most famous ones was on Bo Kennedy's The Bump podcast
Speaker 1: and allegedly this woman had a conversation with a sasquatch
Speaker 1: through telepathic communications and it told her that it was
Speaker 1: what is called an elude. That was what it called itself. Now,
Speaker 1: an eliude in essence is the offspring of a nephelum.
Speaker 1: That's what an eliud is. According to Gary Wayne, do.
Speaker 4: You think they would be pretty, like real shit?
Speaker 5: Like you think like me, you would think like maybe
Speaker 5: the pretty angels that we think of, but maybe it's
Speaker 5: like the giant, weird eyeball.
Speaker 3: One on the the nephelm were from the demons and
Speaker 3: like Eliath was one of them.
Speaker 1: There were angels, angels at one angels and people, well
Speaker 1: that they still are and fallen angels. I mean, if
Speaker 1: we're getting technical, fallen angels and demons are different.
Speaker 2: They are different.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you think they would at least still be like
Speaker 4: kind of pretty?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 5: I mean I think there would still be something, but like, man,
Speaker 5: that sucks. Man, you you're you're a very ugly dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's one of those things though, Like you've
Speaker 1: got so the elude but this elude was in search
Speaker 1: of salvation. So you have other stories throughout time, uh,
Speaker 1: some of Native American tribes, some of other people that
Speaker 1: talk about these beasts and being in search of not
Speaker 1: not just beasts but also Raphael Gibberine, Nephelin, in search
Speaker 1: of redemption, mm on God. There's there's lots of rumors
Speaker 1: and or things written about some of the mighty Men
Speaker 1: in the Bible, that they were giants, even that some
Speaker 1: of them were refeme or men of Moab who could
Speaker 1: have been lying men. Right, So there's there's these these
Speaker 1: stories of So so this goes way back to one
Speaker 1: of your first questions is do you think they're good
Speaker 1: and evil? I think some are and some are, but
Speaker 1: you that that's a good possibility. I think in essence
Speaker 1: that yes, I think that they could be. They could be.
Speaker 1: That's a one of the viable theories is that they
Speaker 1: are part of this whole. Maybe it's not Nephlam per se,
Speaker 1: but they're they're nephlam adjacent. Right, Because we go back
Speaker 1: to the where we were going with this genetic research
Speaker 1: ship too, is that if we're talking about gods, little
Speaker 1: g gods or aliens or whatever, what the hell do
Speaker 1: you think they're doing. They're gene splicing the shit out
Speaker 1: of things, right, So where the fuck did the minotaur
Speaker 1: come from? Where did all these all the freaking folklore
Speaker 1: of all the freaking weird beasts throughout time? Right again,
Speaker 1: across civilizations, across time, across continence, geography. That shit happens, Dragons,
Speaker 1: all the different shit, Right, what's to say, who's to
Speaker 1: say that it's not genetically crisper freaking you know, ancient
Speaker 1: crisper shit, or it's not ancient. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, who's to say.
Speaker 4: It's not this marine text? I mean that did specifically,
Speaker 4: I mean it was.
Speaker 1: I mean they look at all the look at all
Speaker 1: the Egyptian shit too, Egypt which is a direct descendant.
Speaker 5: From that, and they and then the whole embryo, the
Speaker 5: first embryo, they were injecting it and all of that.
Speaker 5: So if you really look at it, I mean it
Speaker 5: was eugenics, just without the word eugenics. Yeah, if you
Speaker 5: were to believe the stories of what they their history
Speaker 5: and how humans came to be technically.
Speaker 1: All the Atlantean shit, all the all of it, it's
Speaker 1: all the you know, the Norse, the Celts, the Hindus,
Speaker 1: all of them. They all have these stories that are
Speaker 1: they all rhyme?
Speaker 2: So I mean where these beasts come from?
Speaker 3: Like okay, to say, where did the idea of a
Speaker 3: horse with wings come from?
Speaker 2: I could honestly imagine that.
Speaker 3: That was their creativity to think, Yo, the horse is
Speaker 3: really fast.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: What if that bitch could fly to you, draw that
Speaker 3: ship down and like that was I could see that
Speaker 3: being an artist's rendition and becoming a thing. Fine, But
Speaker 3: to your point, there is more than a few of
Speaker 3: these creatures that seemed to.
Speaker 2: Traverse cultures, traverse continents.
Speaker 1: From sators Tars, all of them, yes, all of them.
Speaker 1: They're not just like Greek. They're not just Greek. They're
Speaker 1: I mean all the stuff, the feathery hairpins, the all
Speaker 1: the shit from South America. I mean again, it all rhymes.
Speaker 1: So you know, again, it's overwhelming and we don't know shit,
Speaker 1: but it brings up a whole lot of stuff that
Speaker 1: always just racks my brain.
Speaker 3: I will say, as far as whenever you look at
Speaker 3: the grand scheme of shit, all the cultures and all
Speaker 3: the tribes and all these creatures and these little g
Speaker 3: gods and whatever, look at how they were worshiped, and
Speaker 3: that typically will give you a pretty good indication. Once again,
Speaker 3: if we are operating in the ethereal and the spiritual,
Speaker 3: where there is a side of good and a side
Speaker 3: of evil, and I understand there are certain areas of gray,
Speaker 3: I'm willing to acknowledge that. But however, you know, sacrificing
Speaker 3: babies in a burning oven, I'm sorry, I don't see
Speaker 3: that as a benevolent being coming down to shed goodness
Speaker 3: and light.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And you could look at the Aztecs for that. You
Speaker 3: can look at the Miyanes for that. You could look
Speaker 3: at the Canaanites for that. You could look at Gaelic tribes,
Speaker 3: you could look at the Druids. There is a well,
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't say the Druids because we don't
Speaker 3: actually know.
Speaker 4: Everything is the dsund forever.
Speaker 2: It's the fucking gypsies, but near the other all I'm
Speaker 2: saying so.
Speaker 3: But my point is there are certain deities where, if
Speaker 3: in just overarching theme and term, when I use the
Speaker 3: term deities, I'm not saying that in a demeaning way,
Speaker 3: but there are certain ones where, okay, this uh entity
Speaker 3: is asking for you to do good by your neighbors
Speaker 3: and that's how you worship it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can, I can get down with this. This
Speaker 2: other one is saying, hey, so I'm gonna need you.
Speaker 3: To draw some of your own blood and uh oh,
Speaker 3: if you really wanted to rain this this next month,
Speaker 3: which need you do is sacrifice. You're first born. And
Speaker 3: the more pain the kid and it has, the more
Speaker 3: it's gonna rain. The gods love that shit. It's a
Speaker 3: pretty clear cut line to me where the side of
Speaker 3: the good and side of the evil is on this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I it's it's definitely. I mean, the bottom line
Speaker 1: is I'm I'm under the impression of I kind of
Speaker 1: go along with Gary Wayne on a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2: Wayne is right y, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he uh, you know, it's you have the fallen,
Speaker 1: the fallen angels, or the Watchers. I think there's more
Speaker 1: than one incursion though of that. But either way, you
Speaker 1: can say the Watchers are the little g gods or
Speaker 1: the as Gary would call them, the celestial mafia godfathers,
Speaker 1: right yeah, And then you have the Nephelim, who are
Speaker 1: all the demigods under that sure so, and I think
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense to me. Uh, just
Speaker 1: because again cross culturally, across geography, all of it, across religions, Sumerians, Celtics, Hindus, Islam,
Speaker 1: Native Americans, all of them as Texas incase, they all
Speaker 1: have this similar creation story, even the Chinese and the Australian,
Speaker 1: the Aboriginals, which yeah, just wild now.
Speaker 2: I've talked about that before too.
Speaker 3: It would make sense that earliest man right would do
Speaker 3: some sort of sun worship, but without any kind of
Speaker 3: monikers or backstory or character arcs or anything to worship
Speaker 3: the sun, being as how it provides plant life and
Speaker 3: animal life eat the plant, and so the human eats both.
Speaker 3: So clearly the sun is a life giving orb and
Speaker 3: we need to fucking venerate it in some way. This
Speaker 3: makes sense to me, and to have the equal and
Speaker 3: opposite of it. But moon worship, I completely could see that.
Speaker 3: To say there's a god of the sea, you know,
Speaker 3: this thing that covers the majority of the earth, Like
Speaker 3: some of these, it doesn't take a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of mental hoops to jump through to say that.
Speaker 3: No matter what tribe you're talking to, they would have
Speaker 3: found a way to venerate this, to worship it in
Speaker 3: some way. But then whenever the deities themselves come into light.
Speaker 3: The god of the Sun, and how this tribe's god
Speaker 3: of the Sun is very very similar to this god's
Speaker 3: tribe of the Sun. Yeah, and there's not much understanding
Speaker 3: as to why they would have the same kind of
Speaker 3: character arch and backs right.
Speaker 2: There, There are some of that conflict.
Speaker 3: There are absolutely some that conflict and make no sense
Speaker 3: to say that this tribe's god of fire is completely
Speaker 3: separate from this god's tribe of fire or tribe god
Speaker 3: of you know what.
Speaker 2: The fucking man.
Speaker 3: Some of it is very very against each other on
Speaker 3: a on a playing field. But more often than not,
Speaker 3: You're right, they rhyme for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least rhyme of them. Yeah. Man, So that's
Speaker 1: kind of where I'm at with all that shit. I mean,
Speaker 1: how the hell do you go from that arc to
Speaker 1: that arc? Anyway? Foot dog Man dog Man scares the
Speaker 1: shit out of me.
Speaker 4: By the way, Godmen is super freaky to me.
Speaker 5: And the more people we have on this podcast, but
Speaker 5: now that I'm on it, like and I listen to these.
Speaker 4: People's stories, the more I'm like, fuck, no, Like, what
Speaker 4: is it? What do you want to see?
Speaker 1: I can't tell you I've never had.
Speaker 4: I do not want to see it.
Speaker 1: For some reason, A giant ape in the woods, like
Speaker 1: it freaks me out. But I'm still like, hey, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go hang out.
Speaker 4: I can handle that more than this creepy bird scene.
Speaker 1: It's like fucking dog that walks on two legs and whatever,
Speaker 1: and the way that.
Speaker 4: It like bounces up at people and all this sudden.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know why people like going and doing
Speaker 3: freaky shit, like why do people love the haunted house?
Speaker 3: And I don't mean like a haunted house like the
Speaker 3: Halloween time, No, no, no, I mean a house where like, no, no,
Speaker 3: there's clearly some very evil shit that this happened in
Speaker 3: this house.
Speaker 2: Multiple people have died in it.
Speaker 3: Multiple people own the home, and shit goes side with
Speaker 3: Amyville Whorehouse. Okay, so hey, we understand this place is fucked.
Speaker 3: Why are there so many people like, let's go check
Speaker 3: it out, gang, Like this is fucking Scooby doo.
Speaker 2: It makes no.
Speaker 1: I don't I never understood that.
Speaker 2: I'm not that white. I'm sorry, I'm not Caucasian.
Speaker 4: I'm not that type of caucacity in me.
Speaker 3: We have this children's insane asylum. That was ran by nuns.
Speaker 2: That's obvious.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go No, how about wet though, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Now you're getting a little bit too.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: I'm not going I've already talked about my story and
Speaker 5: not going into them.
Speaker 4: I will be fair for the medical purpose of it.
Speaker 5: Like if there was like a group that was like
Speaker 5: going into like study like or like look at the
Speaker 5: history of what was going on in it or whatever,
Speaker 5: my curiosity.
Speaker 4: Would probably get.
Speaker 5: But to be fair, though, it's like a whiff of something,
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, maybe not like maybe.
Speaker 3: There's a difference between scholarship and going to places that
Speaker 3: people don't want to go to, but truly for some
Speaker 3: historian level things, right yeah, I know, cool versus a
Speaker 3: group of fucking college kids that gets super high and
Speaker 3: it's like let's go fuck around in the oldest Saint Asile.
Speaker 2: How about no?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that's just fucked. I can't do it. I
Speaker 1: mean I've done some stuff like that, like uh, I mean,
Speaker 1: but it was like a real investigation, like like we
Speaker 1: went to like documentary for Fort Delaware. You guys ever
Speaker 1: heard of this place? Yes? Yeah, just wild man, it's
Speaker 1: it was awesome. But uh, but again, I just did
Speaker 1: a podcast. I just interviewed a group called the Beyond
Speaker 1: Human Podcast. These two that do this podcast aren't full loan,
Speaker 1: they're actual anthropologists. Okay, so they attack this from completely
Speaker 1: like folklore anthropology. Right, it's fascinating and they go do
Speaker 1: straight up ghost hunts and get after it. She was
Speaker 1: telling one of them was telling the story about getting
Speaker 1: choked out, getting choked out by some sort of entity
Speaker 1: and the only way they could get it off or
Speaker 1: was with holy water and prayer. It was just wild.
Speaker 1: And she had she had actual marks on her neck
Speaker 1: like a hand. It was wild.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So but these people are anthropologists, like this is
Speaker 1: what they like. They're they're they're attacking it from a
Speaker 1: completely scientific side, and man, it's it's almost like they
Speaker 1: piss them off even more spirits.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't give a funk about your science college.
Speaker 1: About your science. Science is settled. It's not.
Speaker 4: To talk to them.
Speaker 2: Oh reached out to them Beyond Human pod.
Speaker 1: Beyond Human podcast. Yeah, and they're doing an actual so
Speaker 1: they're they're both professors at Lehigh University, which I think
Speaker 1: is in Pennsylvania. Yeah, and they're they're actually doing a study.
Speaker 1: Like there you can get on and be a one
Speaker 1: of their test subjects and do like this whole It
Speaker 1: starts with the survey and then they interview you about stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm participating in that right now. I haven't gotten
Speaker 1: interviewed yet.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she's an anthropologist, so I.
Speaker 5: Actually so when you were talking about it, I was like,
Speaker 5: I understand it from that because the clinical mindset of
Speaker 5: wanting to break all this down, that's where that's where I.
Speaker 1: Missed my calling. Frankly, as an anthropologist.
Speaker 4: You should go back to school.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 4: To get my doctorate.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I really.
Speaker 5: Want to get my doctorate, Like I'm really hell bent
Speaker 5: on getting it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I lived in one of those states too that I'll
Speaker 1: just throw money at veterans to get their education. So
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, I started getting money my masters,
Speaker 1: and then I decided no, because no, no, I was
Speaker 1: going to get in the behavioral science. Okay, because I
Speaker 1: was going to become because I was a peer support
Speaker 1: specialist for the VA for years for a lot of years,
Speaker 1: and I was going to become a therapist. While I
Speaker 1: realized that if I became licensed that couldn't do shit
Speaker 1: for anybody, So I was like, okay, now I'll just
Speaker 1: stick as a peer. So I didn't finish my masters,
Speaker 1: But I've always been like sociology anthropology, like.
Speaker 5: An apology is a really fun topic because a lot
Speaker 5: of people think it's just like one of this weird thing.
Speaker 5: But the thing about anthropology is is that it takes
Speaker 5: so many feels of study, and you study all of
Speaker 5: them to understand what humans are from start to finish
Speaker 5: everything in between. And like then there's sub categories within
Speaker 5: anthropology as well where people focus more like like language
Speaker 5: or you know, if they're doing archaeology, or it depends
Speaker 5: on what they want to focus on. There's more subsets.
Speaker 5: Like some people are really hyper fixated on the religion thing,
Speaker 5: Like we have to all take religion courses, and we
Speaker 5: had to take like multic multicultural world religion courses, and
Speaker 5: I like maybe or maybe not, Like you know, half
Speaker 5: ass did in my way through a couple of those,
Speaker 5: so I was like.
Speaker 4: We really don't click click.
Speaker 5: But there's a lot to read though, to be fair,
Speaker 5: there's like huge textbooks that we have to read, and
Speaker 5: it's like it's a bunch of breakdown and then we
Speaker 5: actually get to pick which ones we want to compare
Speaker 5: and contrast, and so like I picked, I picked different
Speaker 5: ones and stuff than like the norm because I wanted
Speaker 5: to read more about it. But there's there's a lot
Speaker 5: of interesting things with it because we do like you know,
Speaker 5: we we have courses on media and how using psychology
Speaker 5: to do mass marketing is a thing, and that's where
Speaker 5: some anthropologists go into, is marketing and being able to
Speaker 5: target and use psychology to promote whatever project, the product.
Speaker 1: Or project psychology type stuff away.
Speaker 5: There's there's so many little weird pockets of where anthropology
Speaker 5: plays in and like how it's a giant umbrella and
Speaker 5: then you have all these people that like all different
Speaker 5: types of science stuff that is involved in it, and
Speaker 5: you can just learn about every subject you can.
Speaker 6: So that's how I'm approaching these I will it's all
Speaker 6: a bunch of nerds together.
Speaker 5: So it's it's a bunch of nerdy people that want
Speaker 5: to learn about a lot of ship and some people
Speaker 5: focus really hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to go back and get a
Speaker 3: degree in history. Y'all are over here trying to understand
Speaker 3: human being human I'm over here.
Speaker 4: I have taking like nine levels of history.
Speaker 5: Now, I'm terrible at remembering dates and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I wish I was better, I really do. And there
Speaker 5: is amazing female historians. But I swear to you, I
Speaker 5: don't know what it is with men. You guys remember
Speaker 5: so much random the dom shit, And.
Speaker 2: It's like, because what because do you remember.
Speaker 5: The battle of this and this at this time this,
Speaker 5: and they were wearing this, and they had this, and
Speaker 5: they were doing.
Speaker 4: This and it was uphill sideways this way, And.
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm sorry, who remembers this from what nine
Speaker 5: thousand years ago?
Speaker 3: Like, women and men remember very different things. Men, when
Speaker 3: you get to a certain age, you.
Speaker 4: Can't find shit on a shelf.
Speaker 5: You're staring at the same pat for twenty five minutes.
Speaker 4: Where's the salt?
Speaker 5: No, But I can remember that battle that was obscure
Speaker 5: in the middle of nowhere, like.
Speaker 2: Look, it's a fact, okay.
Speaker 3: At a certain point, men fall into one of two categories.
Speaker 3: Either one they become experts at slow cooking meat and
Speaker 3: the other.
Speaker 1: The I have a smoker, that's amazing.
Speaker 3: Either that route or b you for some reason think
Speaker 3: of the Roman Empire at least three times a.
Speaker 5: Day at least, but my dad was both though like
Speaker 5: your dad's.
Speaker 4: My dad was like the most. Like he would watch
Speaker 4: like the most.
Speaker 5: History and then here while slow cooking meat and his
Speaker 5: egg and doing all these fancy ship.
Speaker 3: Dude, I don't have an egg, but I know, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's going to become a part of my personality.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to I have one in Oregon that I'm
Speaker 5: supposed to bring back, and I'm like, I'm not letting
Speaker 5: you use that thing, because then he's like, can I use.
Speaker 2: This every day? I know my brother in law has one,
Speaker 2: my neighbor has one.
Speaker 3: I watch these dudes do it, and I have respect
Speaker 3: for it, but I also trying to protect me from myself.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, but I think it's really funny how like
Speaker 5: so many men are so well at remembering the slightest
Speaker 5: details where I've read so much about so many things,
Speaker 5: and then I'm like, what's that person we're talking about?
Speaker 5: Like every time I swear to God the last couple
Speaker 5: of weeks, men are throwing out names. I'm just like,
Speaker 5: who's that person again? Like I know the name, but
Speaker 5: my brain doesn't remember this.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Why it is a female thing because my wife is
Speaker 1: one of the smartest people I know. Right she is.
Speaker 1: She's amazing. But if I she's not. But like if
Speaker 1: I asked her who fought in the revolutionary or if
Speaker 1: I asked her who fought in the revolutionary where she'd be.
Speaker 4: Like, is this people?
Speaker 5: Bro, those people that fought against those other people, Like,
Speaker 5: that's what they did if.
Speaker 1: They were red, I think they were read.
Speaker 2: I may not be able to tell you. You can
Speaker 2: tell me.
Speaker 1: She can tell me what their fucking uniform look like.
Speaker 1: She couldn't tell me who they were, right, So yes,
Speaker 1: So men say the same shit about women. It's just
Speaker 1: different shit.
Speaker 2: We are built for priorities.
Speaker 1: This is why men and women aren't the fucking same.
Speaker 1: Very sorry, guys.
Speaker 2: It's true, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but the science is actually confirmed on this way.
Speaker 2: There's only two genders. They're very different for a reason.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you what my my kid's last softball
Speaker 3: season record was, but I could tell you what the
Speaker 3: weather was the day before the Battle of Agincourt.
Speaker 2: Okay, I wish I could explain why.
Speaker 4: But here we are ridiculous, Like, yeah, it was rainy because.
Speaker 2: It was super muddy, and that's why the muddy.
Speaker 1: And that's why the fucking British one. Okay, this guy
Speaker 1: and the Yeomen just fucking slay all kinds of shit.
Speaker 5: You think I can remember all the shit that I've read,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, no, Nope, but man, I can tell
Speaker 5: you about all sorts of random shit.
Speaker 4: And it's like, Okay, I.
Speaker 5: Don't man, I don't understand where my knowledge decides it's
Speaker 5: going to be remembered and where it's not.
Speaker 3: Like and this is also why so many people whenever,
Speaker 3: whenever you came on as a co host, right, there
Speaker 3: were so many people like, oh, man, a woman's gonna
Speaker 3: be a coast on a conspiracy pod. And it's like,
Speaker 3: first of all, you're an anthropology just so you look
Speaker 3: at history, and you look at human behavior, and you
Speaker 3: look at these conspiratorial stories from.
Speaker 2: A very different perspective than a man. I feel like
Speaker 2: that's the entire fucking package here.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I just want to break
Speaker 4: it down.
Speaker 5: I want to understand, Like, as we're talking about this
Speaker 5: ghost DNA, now you got me hyper fixated on it.
Speaker 4: I've already read like six articles.
Speaker 1: Well I brought it up, and I brought up all
Speaker 1: I did was say. All I said was and the
Speaker 1: virus actually is the reason we have a placenta. Women
Speaker 1: have a placenta. And you went, well, no, you have
Speaker 1: to understand she as you immediately right, she's also a doula. No,
Speaker 1: you're going into her wheelhouse.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, now, I'm like, now I'm hyper fixating
Speaker 5: on this and now I'm going to be down this
Speaker 5: whole rabbit hole from the next like week, like we
Speaker 5: know everything.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't know the show Danny Jones.
Speaker 2: I love Danny Jones's show.
Speaker 1: So there was there was a woman that it was
Speaker 1: just done that that you guys should watch that episode.
Speaker 1: There was a she's a I think she's a geneticist.
Speaker 1: She might be like an anthropological geneticist or something. She's
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what she does it she gets
Speaker 1: on there and talks about some of this ship. Yeah Jones,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean it's been really interesting as I'm like
Speaker 5: scanning this and kind of learning more about it and
Speaker 5: seeing what it says and stuff. I mean, I've heard
Speaker 5: about it and I've also done years ago. I read
Speaker 5: into the different DNA sequencing. But that's it's interesting because
Speaker 5: like the articles that are now coming out about what
Speaker 5: you're talking about are completely different from what they were
Speaker 5: five years ago.
Speaker 1: You didn't even know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and everything every year DNA, right, So junk d Yeah,
Speaker 5: junk DNA, that's always what it's been called. Is just
Speaker 5: the junk DNA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chrisper technology has rewritten everything we thought we once
Speaker 3: knew about DNA and how its structured and how it works.
Speaker 2: It's it's well.
Speaker 1: Now. Another part of this whole thing, too, is is
Speaker 1: not just it's not just like what we talked about.
Speaker 1: There's also shows. Because what really sent me down this
Speaker 1: freaking rabbit hole was when because you know, I I
Speaker 1: I was in the military for ten years. Dude saw
Speaker 1: enough shit to see shit, right, And trauma fucking trauma's
Speaker 1: a real thing. So with that being said, not not
Speaker 1: just that a childhood trauma, you know, because because fuck,
Speaker 1: but it's just the way it goes right sometimes. And
Speaker 1: so I'm like doing all this research on trauma and
Speaker 1: I start seeing trauma encoding articles about trauma encoding on DNA.
Speaker 1: It does, and holy shit. And so I went through
Speaker 1: like a there was a big study in Holocaust survivors
Speaker 1: and they're showing you know, three or four generations from
Speaker 1: there still have the trauma markers on the DNA some
Speaker 1: some of the starvation, some of the big famines, and
Speaker 1: like Ethiopia and uh Ireland there's there's a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of these and those trauma markers are encoded on DNA too.
Speaker 1: That's what headed me down this whole rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: Explain that the way Holocaust denires.
Speaker 1: Right, So I don't know, but either way, so it shows,
Speaker 1: and it just shows that trauma encodes on your DNA
Speaker 1: as well. That all freaking and that opens up a
Speaker 1: whole another can of worms with locks and epigenetics and
Speaker 1: all that shit, like what you know, triggers, what turns
Speaker 1: gene expression on, what turns it off? Can we do
Speaker 1: it remotely again? Aliens and all the shit. It just
Speaker 1: it gets really deep and I love that.
Speaker 5: So it's interesting while you're talking about the placenta. It
Speaker 5: protects the placenta embryos from viral infection, is what the genome,
Speaker 5: the ancestral genome does.
Speaker 2: So the virus protects.
Speaker 1: The virus protects from a virus.
Speaker 5: Whoa, yeah, so it says the new study reveals that
Speaker 5: the viral turncoat might help the placenta protect embryos from
Speaker 5: viral infection. It's a beautiful story supported by very strong experiments.
Speaker 5: This is from an evolutionary biologist in Colorado who was.
Speaker 4: Not involved in study, but they read work. Okay.
Speaker 5: So there are all these elements that we already know
Speaker 5: that we have about our genome. Viruses that embed in
Speaker 5: their genetic material in our genome are also known as retroviruses.
Speaker 4: So retroviruses is like a protein that.
Speaker 5: Is going to be shown over and over again forever,
Speaker 5: pretty much.
Speaker 2: That we were talking about spike protein with covid or
Speaker 2: is that different.
Speaker 4: It's a different type of protein.
Speaker 5: This is actually I actually pulled something up so that
Speaker 5: way I could read it correctly. It's what it does
Speaker 5: is infects the hosts and then it tricks them into
Speaker 5: making the proteins that they need to replicate it. Occasionally,
Speaker 5: the retrovirus will embed itself into a sperm or egg cell,
Speaker 5: and when that happens, it can hitch a ride into
Speaker 5: the next generation and beyond.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: So that was like an easy I'm trying to find
Speaker 5: like the simplest way to break it down.
Speaker 4: So this sounds like a good way to say it.
Speaker 4: So that's what that is.
Speaker 5: And so this is stating pretty much that it's domesticated itself,
Speaker 5: so it would embedded itself into not only the male
Speaker 5: and the female.
Speaker 4: But also the male.
Speaker 5: And so if it's passing down into the sperm too,
Speaker 5: then it's coding this the coating the placenta so that
Speaker 5: other outside infections can't get in and kill and kill
Speaker 5: off everything.
Speaker 1: So and I'm sure that evolves as well. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that evolves as well. As we get exposed to other
Speaker 1: ship it will also evolved with it. And then man,
Speaker 1: just wild, I wonder, I wonder if different populations have
Speaker 1: different uh viral code, you know what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 4: The viral sequencing, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like certain certain things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder if it says that it's that if
Speaker 5: it infects the sperm cells, the precursors of the eggs,
Speaker 5: their genes become a part of our DNA and can
Speaker 5: be passed on to the offspring. Once the snimmit of
Speaker 5: the viral DNA becomes embedded in our genome is known
Speaker 5: as indigenous retrovirus. The e r V e r V
Speaker 5: an eight percent of the genome is created. Is sequencing
Speaker 5: is from that it's trapped in our DNA cells ever
Speaker 5: since they infected a human ancestor millions of years ago.
Speaker 5: These genes have lost their original viral function over time,
Speaker 5: but that does not mean that they're useless. So and
Speaker 5: then goes into a whole bunch of other information about it.
Speaker 5: But now and now I'm curious. Now I'm gonna end
Speaker 5: up reading all about this stuff. But yeah, it's codes. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it codes the so it says in codes of protein
Speaker 5: produced in the placenta and early human embryos. And so
Speaker 5: it binds the receptor onto the cell surface known as
Speaker 5: a A s c T two, the same receptor that
Speaker 5: is another form of the e r V drived protein.
Speaker 5: So it links, it sells the cells together, and it
Speaker 5: forms a coat pretty much with the retrorivers.
Speaker 1: Now, what you need to find, guys, is the graphic
Speaker 1: that that has the star and ship that goes across
Speaker 1: that goes Remember when you were a kid, you go
Speaker 1: across the morning. You know, That's what this episode is
Speaker 1: all about.
Speaker 4: Like a sperm braveyard.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing that people don't what the sperm graveyard.
Speaker 2: That's another euphemism for an ex wife.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I really I actually learned the
Speaker 1: other day, Like what I do d is actually.
Speaker 4: How they Yeah, so how they actually do. Yeah, they're
Speaker 4: they keep it yet.
Speaker 1: They just kill all kinds of shit they kill.
Speaker 5: Also, so the IDEs they like continuously make the everything's
Speaker 5: in flame twenty four to seven pretty much.
Speaker 4: It's real rough.
Speaker 5: So the so the sperm, So the sperm graveyard is
Speaker 5: where because like sperm just don't stop when they've reached
Speaker 5: the egg. They continue to go on and traverse out
Speaker 5: into the body, i e.
Speaker 4: The sides of the body.
Speaker 5: And that turns into like the dominal cavity is known
Speaker 5: as also the equivalent of sperm graveyard.
Speaker 4: Yes, you can look it up.
Speaker 2: Is not is not I feel like that's a stripper.
Speaker 2: We're just called it.
Speaker 5: Is actually called it is a technical term called the
Speaker 5: sperm graveyard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the morning there there's so many jokes that can make,
Speaker 3: but they just continuously get darker.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I.
Speaker 3: Like a woman who's had six abortions like that, pussy's
Speaker 3: haun a dog, that's ships that's a graveyard.
Speaker 2: It's a whole thing. But like, oh my god, what
Speaker 2: the fuck?
Speaker 4: Like, well, we were talking about that and that's.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm learning new information here.
Speaker 3: Holy fuck yeah, the sperm graveyard and not just be
Speaker 3: carrying that.
Speaker 4: Ship woman even dies off and recycles out and stuff.
Speaker 5: But but there is a lot of conversation if we're
Speaker 5: gonna get woo wu or conspiratoral about it, is that
Speaker 5: because that holds a piece of your DNA, every person
Speaker 5: that you've slept with is embodied into your body itself,
Speaker 5: and like a whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a whole.
Speaker 1: There's a whole thing.
Speaker 6: There is a yeah, and there's a there's a whole Yeah,
Speaker 6: there's a whole conversation about that, like in and of
Speaker 6: itself and then how how it transverses into men and
Speaker 6: all these things and stuff.
Speaker 5: So we're not gonna go down that rabbit hole. But
Speaker 5: back to the DNA sequencing though, there is a lot
Speaker 5: of interesting talk about the original DNA and like who
Speaker 5: has the most potent DNA of human.
Speaker 3: And you can look at the mitochondrial bottleneck that there
Speaker 3: was rendly ten thousand BC. You've heard of that, so
Speaker 3: apparently there was a world war that killed I think
Speaker 3: it's been a lot since I read the article. What
Speaker 3: twenty five percent of the male population on Earth all
Speaker 3: die within like two years, and then the women, because
Speaker 3: they weren't at the warfront, their mitochondrial DNA survived and
Speaker 3: you could backfill it to like ten thousand BC.
Speaker 2: You know, just a quarter of all men just killed
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: That just came out. I think they were just talking
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: That blows my mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean, we have we do show another
Speaker 1: bottle and that they're like with cataclysms right right right
Speaker 1: where they'll literally show where like there's one where they're
Speaker 1: estimated there was like a couple thousand Homo sapiens left
Speaker 1: on the planet. And that's like, holy shit, like what
Speaker 1: is that? What's that from?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a weird one. There's a there's some weird
Speaker 5: points in history where that don't really make a whole
Speaker 5: bunch of sense when you start to really look at
Speaker 5: it from all different angles. It's kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 5: so you're telling me that a whole bunch of people died,
Speaker 5: that there's not a bunch of extra DNA to be
Speaker 5: able to like, you know, that we're not interbreeding and
Speaker 5: things like this, and that we're not messing up the
Speaker 5: DNA sequencing. And then it's like, well, so why did
Speaker 5: these things happen? There's no answers. It's just like a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it happens.
Speaker 5: And then if we look at the weird and then
Speaker 5: if you go back to you know, history of how
Speaker 5: people were going about, how you know, things were actually
Speaker 5: like intermixing and people were just showing up in different
Speaker 5: locations and and then you know, going about and doing
Speaker 5: their nomadic stuff, and then tribes starting to form and
Speaker 5: all this stuff.
Speaker 4: But then people were just dying off in large groups.
Speaker 5: And it's like okay, so then you follow the DNA
Speaker 5: and that's a whole nother thing of the whole you know,
Speaker 5: DNA the twenty three and me it's like, okay, you
Speaker 5: do realize you all gave your DNA over two be
Speaker 5: tested and used and it actually states in the information
Speaker 5: if you read it, that you're going to be genetically
Speaker 5: tested on, Like they're genetically using it for testing and
Speaker 5: they're looking for something. I truly believe that they're looking
Speaker 5: for a specific DNA sequencing.
Speaker 1: Group and that their blood line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're hunting a bloodline right now.
Speaker 5: That it makes a lot of sense if you look
Speaker 5: at the stuff, like what they're looking for.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's actually the real reason why France saidn't allow them.
Speaker 3: Everybody thought that it was because they would disseminate their
Speaker 3: entire civilization, But in reality, the royal.
Speaker 2: Bloodline from old is hiding in France.
Speaker 4: Hey, maybe that's where they are. Maybe they're like under.
Speaker 1: What about the Basque people? You guys know about this
Speaker 1: that it's wild? I mean their their blood type is
Speaker 1: totally wacky.
Speaker 2: The more any negative than anywhere else on earth. If
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, I am.
Speaker 5: A rich negative and oh negative. I'm the weird alien
Speaker 5: blood type.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you was, was my father in law.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we just weird aliens over here. Not really, there's
Speaker 5: a lot more weird blood. We did a whole blood
Speaker 5: episode that was crazy, But.
Speaker 1: Like the whole Basque people are just in wild, Like
Speaker 1: their language is totally different than anyone else's. Their whole
Speaker 1: their their whole origin story is totally weird.
Speaker 5: Well for our our cult members that don't know, do
Speaker 5: you want to explain it to them? Kind of like
Speaker 5: the history of them and stuff, because.
Speaker 1: You let me let me pull it up.
Speaker 2: We've talked about it in passing, but I don't know
Speaker 2: if we've ever actually I.
Speaker 4: Don't think we've I don't I have none.
Speaker 2: Anything I want to say.
Speaker 3: Me and Jonathan talked about it when we did an
Speaker 3: episode on the Cuco, which is a race of people
Speaker 3: that vanished around the time of the French Revolution, remember,
Speaker 3: but they claim that they might have been, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: of Basque origin. That's not guaranteed facts, mostly because there's
Speaker 3: nothing we know about them these days except for the fact.
Speaker 2: They were just hated in France.
Speaker 3: But I mean, they're they're not the Basque, aren't exactly
Speaker 3: Arab and they're not exactly European.
Speaker 1: No, And their language is completely it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's an isolated unrelated to any other tongue.
Speaker 2: And the other thought it was close to Catalonian, but
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't say it doesn't say anything about that,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to find that one.
Speaker 2: Damn it.
Speaker 3: And their culture in and of itself is very like
Speaker 3: they've assimilated pretty you know, especially.
Speaker 1: These they have for sure, but they have a genetic
Speaker 1: continuity that's totally different. So like studies indicate the best
Speaker 1: are not they're not migrants from a distant land, but
Speaker 1: are descended from early Neolithic farmers, yeah, who mixed with
Speaker 1: local hunter gatherers and then became isolated from the rest
Speaker 1: of Europe for millennia. Right now, there's this is the
Speaker 1: sanitized version, right, the sanitized google ship. But you know,
Speaker 1: their language is different, the geographic and cultural isolation, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's what they that's what the anthropologists. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what they keep saying, right, and they're also very resistant
Speaker 1: to assimilation. Yeah, but they have a completely unique cultural
Speaker 1: identity and there is So here's one of the things
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to find this because I don't want
Speaker 1: to speak like a complete moron on it. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can find it right off the back,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to dig shit. But there's there's
Speaker 1: rumors I think that allegedly something that has to do
Speaker 1: with Kane from the Bible ended up dying or like
Speaker 1: like he ended up over there, like in that region.
Speaker 1: M h. Rumors. You can maybe people can look it up,
Speaker 1: but that is something that is I haven't dug into
Speaker 1: it real deep yet, but that's pretty interesting something with
Speaker 1: Cain and his ancestors and that that region and that
Speaker 1: there is a I think a tomb there that is
Speaker 1: said to be Caine's tomb. So I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: No, they are. They are a fascinating track of people. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: what you found something?
Speaker 5: They these people supposedly live between three thousand, three hundred, yeah,
Speaker 5: three hundred, excuse me, three thousand and five thousand years
Speaker 5: ago the Basque mm hmm. So that's like that. They
Speaker 5: were around the transitioning farming in the southwest Europe, so
Speaker 5: Stonehinge was already being built, So that's this whole group
Speaker 5: was in the northern section of So they actually looked
Speaker 5: at the genome sequencing from eight Stone Age skeletons in
Speaker 5: northern Spain to determine that this is when they think
Speaker 5: that this this group was there.
Speaker 2: I believe it. And that's the thing. This group has
Speaker 2: been there for forever.
Speaker 1: In thousands of years, right, And it's not.
Speaker 3: Like and I know at one point they were kind
Speaker 3: of what's the word when when you're oppressed by your regime?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, persecuted.
Speaker 1: They're definitely persecuted and some of the Catalonians, but again
Speaker 1: there are some militant people as well, So I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's cross pollination between the Catalonians
Speaker 1: in the Bass. It would makes sense if there was.
Speaker 2: It would make sense if there was.
Speaker 3: But I mean, but that's my point that they they
Speaker 3: have been persecuted in the past, but they've always stuck
Speaker 3: it out. They have hailed onto their region of the world,
Speaker 3: and they still survive and are thriving to this day.
Speaker 1: And we do know, I mean as that certain populations
Speaker 1: of people that have been isolated throughout time end.
Speaker 5: Up, you know, like Africa that hasn't I mean, their
Speaker 5: DNA is damn near pure like quote unquote pure DNA.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's there's places in South America it's South
Speaker 5: South Africa or South America, excuse me, that have certain
Speaker 5: locations that also have very clean DNA.
Speaker 4: I guess you could put it.
Speaker 5: This group apparently as their ancestral DNA can be traced
Speaker 5: back to uh people that lived in Europe during the
Speaker 5: Last Ice Age, and that they primarily the pioneer farmers
Speaker 5: from Germany, Hungary and Spain who lived there thousands of
Speaker 5: years earlier. The new study goes into explaining that some
Speaker 5: of the differences between the Basque and the neighbors of
Speaker 5: France and Spain and the initial farmers mixture set. So
Speaker 5: they're talking about the combination of the isolated groups due
Speaker 5: to a combination of the geography and culture. So they're
Speaker 5: speculating on why they were like this, but historians are
Speaker 5: thinking that it was a very difficult area to conquer,
Speaker 5: so they didn't get affected by a lot of the
Speaker 5: migration that.
Speaker 4: Was happening, and so they just pretty much stayed isolated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have these populations in the Caucaust as well,
Speaker 1: the Caucaus mountains, like the Dagastan.
Speaker 2: Was going to say, look at Dagastan, Akistan.
Speaker 1: And Georgia and Georgians, and they have these.
Speaker 4: By the way, I was, I was Afghanistan, but they
Speaker 4: are Georgians.
Speaker 2: Brutal motherfuckers, they are.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen this this in the in the
Speaker 1: Caucaus that they have like uh, I call it like
Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings power uh system. Right, Like
Speaker 1: the like the the way that like the Gondor and
Speaker 1: fucking the Rokirom were able to signal each other with
Speaker 1: the signal fires. There's all these thousands of thousands of
Speaker 1: year old freaking towers. Yeah, throughout these villages that are
Speaker 1: like perchased on the side of cliffs for no apparent reason, right,
Speaker 1: and it's wild. You can look into that ship too.
Speaker 1: It is freaking wild.
Speaker 4: You know, he just wrote about what we really had
Speaker 4: it going on.
Speaker 3: Okay, basically basically just put a little extra fantasy and
Speaker 3: whimsical flare on it. But he definitely derived a lot
Speaker 3: of his inspiration from real ship.
Speaker 5: Who's saying fantasy, Maybe that's that, you know what, Maybe
Speaker 5: that's who we descend from Tolkien. Tolien got it right,
Speaker 5: like the Elves made yeah, elves.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: He He was very clear that there was a thinly
Speaker 3: veiled Christian message start to finish. Tolkien was very open
Speaker 3: about that, same as Lion of the Witch and the
Speaker 3: Wardrobe same shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, freaking C. S. Lewis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's not.
Speaker 3: Do not let this detract from the fact that the
Speaker 3: Dune book series led to even fifty Shades of Gray.
Speaker 1: Do not talk.
Speaker 5: You've already talked about it with him, that he doesn't
Speaker 5: need to hear it again. No, No, the Cold members
Speaker 5: do not want to hear this fucking rabbit hole ship.
Speaker 2: You want to go down a whole tangent.
Speaker 5: You can believe that, but you can't believe that maybe
Speaker 5: maybe the Annochy, somehow their bloodline is survived through these people.
Speaker 1: Oh damn it, there is that book. It's another book.
Speaker 4: I like new books.
Speaker 2: So no, it's just mostly give me one second, guy, literally.
Speaker 1: Because this is a book. I've only heard about it
Speaker 1: from one person. I bought it, and I've never heard
Speaker 1: from anyone again. But it is fucking.
Speaker 2: Wild grab dude.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah.
Speaker 3: Not to say that aliens from old may have come
Speaker 3: down and crossbread with humans or done some genetic modifications.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you. There's definitely a possibility of that.
Speaker 3: What I guess it's just strikes nerve whenever the ananachi
Speaker 3: get brought.
Speaker 2: Up specifically, is because.
Speaker 3: Even by the Sumerian z own writing system, that's not
Speaker 3: what they believe was what happened.
Speaker 2: And u naki does not.
Speaker 3: Mean what the people of today in the social media
Speaker 3: versus think ananaki means. And so it's like that's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like specifically that because.
Speaker 2: It's the same conversation.
Speaker 4: I don't really care.
Speaker 5: You can put whatever name on it for me personally,
Speaker 5: I just think it's some something right is going, like
Speaker 5: something in our day is interesting and something doesn't make
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of sense depending on what story or
Speaker 5: narrative you want to believe, But there's a lot of
Speaker 5: holes in a lot of stories and narratives out there,
Speaker 5: and so I just feel like there's a lot that
Speaker 5: we're missing overall, not just with our DNA and the
Speaker 5: evolution of humans, but also with the evolution of people
Speaker 5: in and of itself and knowledge and what's gone on
Speaker 5: in our history. I think there's a lot missing totally.
Speaker 2: And I would agree with that. I absolutely can agree
Speaker 2: with everything you just said.
Speaker 3: My issue is, like, for instance, and not to just
Speaker 3: get on a I hate Billy Carson rant right quick,
Speaker 3: but not just him, but so dude, I can't fucking
Speaker 3: stand him. But beside the point. Beside the point, it's
Speaker 3: not just him. There are so many talking heads out
Speaker 3: there that say, oh, the Ananaki, you mean the sky
Speaker 3: deities that clearly did this at the Samarans, And it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: you are making shit up. Now, A new Naki does
Speaker 3: not mean sky gods, and New was the sky god
Speaker 3: and Naki was the earth goddess, and it created both
Speaker 3: of them to make gods that would later make humans.
Speaker 2: So you're just you're filling in the blanks for one for.
Speaker 3: Two to say that fallen angels crossbread with humans to
Speaker 3: make giants or something. Okay, yeah, sure to say that
Speaker 3: some other sky alien being did the same thing to
Speaker 3: humans to make some sort of crossbreed.
Speaker 2: I could get down with that.
Speaker 3: It's just I guess the Ananaki is kind of a
Speaker 3: hot button because so many people use that because they
Speaker 3: don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They just
Speaker 3: heard some the only Internet say it too many times.
Speaker 1: Have you guys got on the Internet and looked at
Speaker 1: the the that are using AI to read the cuneiform tablets?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just did an episode on that, which is
Speaker 3: why this conversation has happened.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, that's pretty cool. Well, this book, guys, look at
Speaker 1: this thing. So I don't know how to say that,
Speaker 1: but it's the apocalypse of Yeah why A J N
Speaker 1: A V A L K y A. And it's so,
Speaker 1: it's the apocalypse of whatever the fuck that is BO
Speaker 1: revelations Revelations concerning the nature of humanity and the gods. Now,
Speaker 1: this is what the back says. Humanity stands on the precipice.
Speaker 1: The final judgment draws near, when all the world of
Speaker 1: evil will be destroyed in the world made new wickedness
Speaker 1: has been present since the beginning of human history, but
Speaker 1: is now more visible than ever. Why a civilization being
Speaker 1: hastened toward this annihilation? Who is guiding this destruction? What
Speaker 1: can you do to prepare yourself and your loved one
Speaker 1: to live in this tumultuous time the apocalypse of whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck that word is? And ancient Saga returns to
Speaker 1: take you on a four book journey. There you go, raven,
Speaker 1: four book journey that answers these questions and more. Prepared
Speaker 1: to be simultaneously surprised and enlightened, challenged and awakened in
Speaker 1: considering the truth presented here, you will have the information
Speaker 1: you need to endure the coming destruction and become a
Speaker 1: fully actualized, powerfully human being in the process.
Speaker 2: Now, this first I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of, But this first book basically talks about
Speaker 1: Atlantis and and but but it's so much more like
Speaker 1: it talks about the epic of gilgames sh. It's super
Speaker 1: fascinating to me. I would suggest anyone read it.
Speaker 4: You can't buy it on Amazon colt members.
Speaker 1: You can, you can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Falca not Cavalcia.
Speaker 1: But it's really good. So, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: you know, if the guy actually takes it seriously because
Speaker 1: there isn't really an author, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's one of those. It's one of those.
Speaker 3: That I don't know if I feel more inclined to
Speaker 3: believe it because the author wanted to stay nameless or
Speaker 3: less inclined honestly.
Speaker 1: Yep. So it's one of those books. And but it's
Speaker 1: super cool if nothing else to get you your brain working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The name alone is enough
Speaker 3: for me to do more digg into how the.
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: So book one is The Ages of Man. Book two
Speaker 5: is Divine Court. Can you read the word right now?
Speaker 5: My contacts are killing me. The min Quaternity quaternity quaternity,
Speaker 5: not quantum like a quarter quaternity.
Speaker 2: The Shadow of the Shadow.
Speaker 1: Then the Path of Righteousness.
Speaker 2: Ah, the Path of Righteousness.
Speaker 1: I mean it says four books, so it's all in
Speaker 1: one book. Sorry.
Speaker 3: The we finally end with a guide on rescuing your
Speaker 3: body and soul from the grips of evil. The path
Speaker 3: begins with the purification of your body and mind, then
Speaker 3: finally awakening of your spirit with the true sacraments that
Speaker 3: have been hidden away from humanity. Here you will learn
Speaker 3: the ancient ways of the Atlanteans for achieving ascension of
Speaker 3: the spirit, freeing yourself forever from tyranny. For a crazy second,
Speaker 3: I thought that was saying tranny, tyranny, my bad from
Speaker 3: securing your freedom from tranny's I meant or tyranny. We're
Speaker 3: going to learn the Atlantean way of spiritual enlighten it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm here for it. Let's do it as well.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: We got to listen to everybody else's spiritual stuff. I
Speaker 4: might as well learn.
Speaker 5: About this too, right, Okay, Yeah, you got some wild
Speaker 5: you got a lot of books and and some wow
Speaker 5: wild information we got. There's a lot of people that
Speaker 5: love to read, though that I will say that conspiracy
Speaker 5: theorists seem to be the most readers I've ever met
Speaker 5: in my life.
Speaker 2: So let's team up and write a book.
Speaker 4: He keeps me in on about this.
Speaker 5: This is you're like this seventh person that we've talked
Speaker 5: to though recently, that has written a book, and everyone's like,
Speaker 5: just write a book.
Speaker 1: So I use the Stephen King method, guys, cause I
Speaker 1: learned No, that's how he used to do it. Though,
Speaker 1: if you read there's a he's got a book I'm writing,
Speaker 1: Heaven forbid writing everything. It's called on writing by Stephen King.
Speaker 1: And like his thing is is he you have to
Speaker 1: approach it. I wouldn't say it's a business, but you
Speaker 1: have to approach it with with some uh discipline, right,
Speaker 1: And so he writes. I think it's ten pages a day,
Speaker 1: no matter what. It could be complete gibberish. At least
Speaker 1: ten pages a day. So it could be just you know,
Speaker 1: my life sucks. My life sucks with ten pages. So so,
Speaker 1: but what he'll do is so he'll take those and
Speaker 1: he might write a hundred pages. I mean, I have
Speaker 1: a day where I wrote, I wrote like a one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pages out of like a two hundred
Speaker 1: page book in one day. Wow. Because when you guys, know,
Speaker 1: when you get going and you just go so and
Speaker 1: he'll he'll do that where he'll bust out a whole
Speaker 1: book in an entire day. But then he'll write ten
Speaker 1: pages a day and then he'll file them. So you
Speaker 1: guys know the Gunslinger that do you guys know? The
Speaker 1: Dark Tower?
Speaker 5: The ironicness of this. So that was actually our book.
Speaker 5: So our book club was reading that. That was our
Speaker 5: last book. We're taking a current break right now until
Speaker 5: the end of summer because I'm honestly too slam to
Speaker 5: be able to do it.
Speaker 4: But we were reading The gun Slinger and that was.
Speaker 1: All I've got them. I mean, I've got all these
Speaker 1: all yeah, and they're all like fucked. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 1: how the fuck did it read all this shit? Like
Speaker 1: this seven hundred page book and this is the fourth book,
Speaker 1: fifth book, The Wolves of Kala. But either way, so
Speaker 1: he started The Gunslinger, well, you know, there's so much
Speaker 1: time between book three in book four, it was just
Speaker 1: met like decades of time. Well, his sen The gun
Speaker 1: Slinger is only you know, this thick, it's only like
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pages. But he rewrote a poem
Speaker 1: and like put it in so he every day that
Speaker 1: he writes, he'll file it and like he'll get like
Speaker 1: this is why so many of his books have congruency
Speaker 1: and crossover, because he'll go, oh shit, I can take
Speaker 1: this story and put it here, you know, like he'll
Speaker 1: he'll pull stuff that he wrote from five years ago
Speaker 1: because he has it all filed and like a man,
Speaker 1: he can remember everything that he wrote right, So totally totally,
Speaker 1: So this is what he does and then he cobbles
Speaker 1: shit together some and it's like and so that's how
Speaker 1: I write. Now. I write every day. I usually wake
Speaker 1: up between I call my I'm a fourth Watch guy,
Speaker 1: you guys know the fourth Watches. It Basically it's the
Speaker 1: you know, from three to six in the morning, and
Speaker 1: I wake up every day between three four and I
Speaker 1: want tomorrow, but I want tomorrow, but every every day usually,
Speaker 1: and so when that happens, I get up and I write.
Speaker 1: That's my time because it's there's nobody else awake. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have four daughters. Yeah, there's no quiet time in
Speaker 1: my house.
Speaker 4: I send that in my whole soul.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's now I have three at home,
Speaker 1: but either way, well most of the time, not all
Speaker 1: the time because they're in college and anyway. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you just got to find that time to write and
Speaker 1: do it. And then the next thing, you know, holy shit,
Speaker 1: you have a book or six, no shit, or more,
Speaker 1: you know. And now, so I released all these this year,
Speaker 1: but I've been working on some of them for five years.
Speaker 1: I just never it's like I just hit this freaking
Speaker 1: thing and boom. Now writing is my thing. So who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll print like ten books over the next five years,
Speaker 1: and then I won't do anything for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you could write a couple, you.
Speaker 1: Just never know. No, I'm just saying like I might
Speaker 1: not not write another thing. I mean, I have a
Speaker 1: lot in my brain now, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: could be empty and three.
Speaker 5: Years I have a whole story written in my brain already.
Speaker 4: I've been writing it for a long time. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be really honest with you. I have it is. It
Speaker 4: is a big ass novel probably to be fair, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I have no desire to write it down on paper.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 4: I just don't.
Speaker 5: I go living it in my dreams, Like I just go.
Speaker 5: I go in my dreams and I go live my
Speaker 5: fantasy life over there.
Speaker 3: Like I just must be nice over there, being able
Speaker 3: to dream and all that shit must be cool.
Speaker 4: I mean, we are pretty cool.
Speaker 5: We have badges and hats and like seminars and people
Speaker 5: out the smoking weed and doing some dumb shit.
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe one day I'll be able to dream.
Speaker 3: Like that sounds fun, Like I just maybe once or
Speaker 3: twice a year I'll get lucky and actually have a dream.
Speaker 3: But you know, other than that, I'll just enjoy my
Speaker 3: comatose levels of sleep that I get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get that.
Speaker 3: So pros and cons, frozen cons. You might dream every night,
Speaker 3: but at least I go to sleep and stay asleep.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Hey, good story, that's true.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Bennett, we appreciate you coming on the show.
Speaker 2: This This man was brow.
Speaker 3: We covered a lot of wild topics, chopped it up
Speaker 3: for all the good cult members that may have not
Speaker 3: heard of you before. Where can they find you? Where
Speaker 3: can they find your socials? Where can they find your books,
Speaker 3: your youtubes?
Speaker 2: Whatever? Man, give yourself all the shameless plug.
Speaker 1: So everything is Broadcasting Seeds, right, you type that and
Speaker 1: it's going to come up on all the things Broadcasting
Speaker 1: Seeds podcast or my name Bennet Tanton. So I'm like
Speaker 1: the first three pages of whatever. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I curated that, but it doesn't matter. So the things
Speaker 1: are Broadcasting Seeds dot com and Bennett Tantonbooks dot com.
Speaker 1: Those are the two best places other than all the socials.
Speaker 1: I'm everywhere with that, So just you'll find it.
Speaker 2: Now for your books.
Speaker 3: And I'm only asking this because I want you to
Speaker 3: make the best, most amount you can the best place
Speaker 3: where people can buy because I know Amazon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, because I have them priced right and
Speaker 1: I did it, I did it correctly. So at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, like there's some books I want,
Speaker 1: I just want people to read them, and so they're priced,
Speaker 1: you know. And those are the the Christian bucks, like
Speaker 1: the the War you didn't know you were in and
Speaker 1: walking with Jesus Christ. They didn't even put up there.
Speaker 1: But either way, ye, that's about living a Christ's centered life.
Speaker 1: But those are, you know, cheap, they're basically at costs,
Speaker 1: just because I'm not into making money off of God.
Speaker 1: So the rest of the stuff though, you know, it's
Speaker 1: the only place you can buy it is at Amazon,
Speaker 1: even through my links on Bennett Tantan Books, just because
Speaker 1: it's easier. I don't want to fuck with it. So
Speaker 1: and it's not about necessarily making money getting rich. It
Speaker 1: just is what it is. It's therapy. At this point,
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. Yeah, but I appreciate it. Guys.
Speaker 1: It's fun to come on and yeah, we'll have to
Speaker 1: get you guys on again, both of you without getting sick,
Speaker 1: and we can talk to a tropology. Maybe we can do.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can do separate episodes. I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that it would. Yeah, and when
Speaker 1: I canceled on you guys, this is I think we all.
Speaker 1: I think we all got COVID, my whole family, even
Speaker 1: though you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1: It was bad. It was ugly.
Speaker 3: So well to the other side of it though, and
Speaker 3: able to come on this episode. Yeah, we're gonna have
Speaker 3: to link up again. We'll go on Yours come Back
Speaker 3: or something. We'll make some some wildness happened, dude, definitely.
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