Speaker 1: I Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio Apple. We have a
Speaker 2: tremendous show for you tonight. Yes, we have a Metro
Speaker 2: update next segment. But nobody died, nobody got stabbed. I mean,
Speaker 2: to my knowledge, maybe someone's getting stabbed right now, but
Speaker 2: I don't have any information on that.
Speaker 1: But we have an update that the K line.
Speaker 2: Is going to be extended, and they're asking for input from.
Speaker 1: You and me.
Speaker 2: Oh, they asked the wrong one. I'll give them all
Speaker 2: the suggestions they could ever want. In an LA City
Speaker 2: Council might be gearing up for a fight with Mayor
Speaker 2: Bass over LAPD discipline.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you about that.
Speaker 2: And the LA City Council is also considering a guaranteed
Speaker 2: income for certain people. Southwest Airlines did you know, you know,
Speaker 2: for all the computer problems they've had in recent years,
Speaker 2: did you know that they're still running Windows three point
Speaker 2: one three point one?
Speaker 1: Do you know when Windows three point one came out?
Speaker 1: It was when Stephen was three years old. When were
Speaker 1: you born? Eighty eight? Okay, yeah, ninety two, so you're
Speaker 1: like three and a half turn four. Yeah. Windows three
Speaker 1: point one came out in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: Two, and there's so much more tonight, but before we
Speaker 2: get to all of that, and that's a great show
Speaker 2: back from his mini vacation is none other than the
Speaker 2: to Walla Sharp and it's a momentous occasion as he
Speaker 2: actually dared to go out on the water. Welcome back.
Speaker 2: I see you made it back safely. Go ahead and
Speaker 2: tell the people what happened or what didn't happen. Well,
Speaker 2: I did not get on that one boat that caught
Speaker 2: on fire. What are you talking about on its way
Speaker 2: to Catalina. We're talking about our boat made it to Catalina.
Speaker 2: And it was in the beginning, I will say. Looking
Speaker 2: at the water, I said, ah, blank blank blank blankety blank,
Speaker 2: and then another blank.
Speaker 1: It could be choppy going to Catalina.
Speaker 3: Yes, getting on the boat, I was tense, but I said,
Speaker 3: you know what I see? Children aboard this boat looked
Speaker 3: like scouts with backpacks ready for camping in Catalina. I
Speaker 3: saw the elderly, I saw all. I don't see even
Speaker 3: a pregnant lady on the boat. I said, damn it. Oh,
Speaker 3: your ego and manhood took over absolutely and I was
Speaker 3: done at that point, and I said, just enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1: And I did that water looked extremely deep.
Speaker 3: It was you couldn't touch the bottom. I couldn't touch
Speaker 3: the bottom, wouldn't even dream of it. But going wasn't
Speaker 3: as bad as I thought. I just took a nice
Speaker 3: breath and just chilled. And the trip out there was
Speaker 3: actually really really cool.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it like thirty minutes or so? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, getting out there its closer to an hour,
Speaker 3: close to an hour to getting over there is about
Speaker 3: an hour, maybe a little more than an hour. It
Speaker 3: was sunny Catalene. It was really sunny, beautiful place to visit.
Speaker 3: You know, you visit, you walk around.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 3: Melrose on the island or Santa Barbara on the island.
Speaker 3: You know, just one main strip of tourists like attractions.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're into snorkeling, go, if you want
Speaker 3: to get on a glass bottom.
Speaker 1: Boat, go. Don't they have ziplining? They have ziplining. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was up and running, but they
Speaker 1: have it.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done it, like I wouldn't have gotten
Speaker 3: on the glass bottom boat. There's enough getting on the
Speaker 3: boat pier. I only need a boat where the bottom
Speaker 3: is clear. Don't need to see that much ocean.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed my time out there, and one of the
Speaker 3: most exciting things was when we got to the docks
Speaker 3: and were ready to take off, I saw the very
Speaker 3: cruise ship that we will be boarding on the Labor
Speaker 3: Day cruise, the actual Labor Day cruise. I know we
Speaker 3: go to the Labor Day cruising and oce but no,
Speaker 3: this is an actual cruise on the boat I saw
Speaker 3: the actual ship.
Speaker 2: For those who don't know, Tuala has an aversion to
Speaker 2: water like I do. Bees, so this was a huge
Speaker 2: step for him. Huge to get on a boat. This
Speaker 2: was a boat a boat, and next month, right around
Speaker 2: no thirty days from now, will be getting on a
Speaker 2: ship as my family and his family will be, you know,
Speaker 2: going on a short three day cruise down to Ensnada.
Speaker 4: I have some important follow up questions. Yes, Tauwala, did
Speaker 4: you at any point where a pair of water wings
Speaker 4: with any kind of superhero signage on them?
Speaker 3: He had floaties he was wearing. No, Now, you know
Speaker 3: it's interesting. I did pay close attention to where where
Speaker 3: the life vests were on the little skipper type boat
Speaker 3: that we went out on getting there.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a skipper.
Speaker 3: It was a nice ized boat, but I thought about
Speaker 3: that the entire time. I constantly thought to myself, if
Speaker 3: if anything happens, like say, if this boat does, you know,
Speaker 3: hit a well or something, a pod of orcas and
Speaker 3: they try to attack, I said to myself, giant shirk
Speaker 3: that too. I said, make sure you get a hold
Speaker 3: of life vest for family, and if they're not enough,
Speaker 3: there are gonna be people who are beaten within an
Speaker 3: inch of their life.
Speaker 1: So I make sure that we failed it.
Speaker 2: You're going to make sure that you have a life
Speaker 2: jacket before the scouts.
Speaker 1: And the l olderly did you are damn right.
Speaker 2: Oh see, now you know how I feel when I
Speaker 2: say I will kill everyone in the room.
Speaker 3: If I said exactly in my mind, I said to myself,
Speaker 3: everyone in this boat will die. But so I can
Speaker 3: get to a vest, I said that to myself, I'm
Speaker 3: getting a vest. I think I stared probably at those
Speaker 3: benches more than I did the water, because that's where
Speaker 3: the vests were.
Speaker 4: The hell with the women and children. If there's a
Speaker 4: giant octopus attacking, you know what you.
Speaker 1: Have to do. I thought about the squids, Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course you did.
Speaker 2: I only would have been concerned if I saw Jason
Speaker 2: Statham on the boat. Other than that, I would have
Speaker 2: been fine, it's all bad. You know, Roy Scheider, he's dead.
Speaker 2: I don't have to worry about that. So but if
Speaker 2: Jason Statham showed up, it was like, yeah, might be
Speaker 2: a problem, big warning son in there. It's like I
Speaker 2: don't see any cameras well, welcome back to all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: Fun and I really, really and truly truly believe that
Speaker 3: that helped out in preparation for the cruise. And I
Speaker 3: believe you when you say I will fill it a
Speaker 3: lot less on the cruise because we felt when the
Speaker 3: boat left the harbor, because going out, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of tugs out, but once it leaves, it gets past
Speaker 3: like the little beacons or whatever. That thing takes off
Speaker 3: and you fell all of that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you won't feel any of that. You you
Speaker 2: will have to. You will be surprised when you realize, oh,
Speaker 2: we're moving. It's almost imperceptible. And if your stateroom is
Speaker 2: not near the actual engine, you won't feel any real
Speaker 2: motion at all. You won't even be able to perceive
Speaker 2: the motion unless you are looking out a porthole or
Speaker 2: you're on deck and you can see in the sea
Speaker 2: and then have a reference point to see the ship moving.
Speaker 1: It's only moving like maybe twenty twenty five knots or so,
Speaker 1: it's not that fast. Interesting. Yeah, so you have a
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, I'm ready.
Speaker 2: I'm ready, and maybe next year we'll take Mark and
Speaker 2: Stephan absolutely not see.
Speaker 1: Look Mark, it's literally not as bad as you think.
Speaker 4: Uh, well, it couldn't be. I've got quite an imagination.
Speaker 4: I've got. I mean, I like to bust on you
Speaker 4: about being afraid of deep water, but I'm petrified of
Speaker 4: deep water.
Speaker 1: He's seen too many movies.
Speaker 2: How the hell can you be a lifeguard and be
Speaker 2: petrified of deep water?
Speaker 4: Well, there were conflicts. I had to jump in and
Speaker 4: save a little girl once, and I was really pissed.
Speaker 4: I had to get my hair wet. I'll just say
Speaker 4: that and move on. It's Later with mo Kelly. I
Speaker 4: am six forty.
Speaker 2: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and we have
Speaker 2: a Metro line update at it's connected to pun intended
Speaker 2: to the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
Speaker 5: KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2: Metro is taking public comments from folks like you and me,
Speaker 2: But they want you to comment on this new plan
Speaker 2: to extend the K line up through Hollywood. And if
Speaker 2: you've ever ridden the Metro, the K line is I
Speaker 2: think the which I think is the Blue line or
Speaker 2: something I don't know. I don't know which one is
Speaker 2: a K line, oh, the Orange line. All they have
Speaker 2: these proposals which would connect the K line to the
Speaker 2: D line, which I remember is the Purple line on
Speaker 2: Wilshire Boulevard, and the B line, which I knew was
Speaker 2: the Red line at Hollywood in Highland, and it could
Speaker 2: include a final stop at the Hollywood Bowl. On the surface,
Speaker 2: that would be a great idea. The Hollywood Bowl having
Speaker 2: its own metro stop, that would be great. I've taken
Speaker 2: the Metro to Hollywood and Highland, which is the closest
Speaker 2: metro stop, and if you've ever done it before, you
Speaker 2: walk up from the subway stop at Hollywood and Highland
Speaker 2: and then you have to walk up that damn hill
Speaker 2: to get all the way to the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 1: If the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 2: Had its own subway stop, we wouldn't have to deal
Speaker 2: with any of that stacked parking anymore. It would be great,
Speaker 2: assuming that you didn't get stabbed on the way. But
Speaker 2: that's a different story for a different day. But the
Speaker 2: logistics of it would be beneficial for anyone who wants
Speaker 2: to go to the Hollywood Bowl, which it's a great video.
Speaker 2: Then I started reading the other unfortunate details. Check this
Speaker 2: out the project. Let's say it was approved. The project
Speaker 2: is expected to break ground in twenty forty one.
Speaker 1: Wait, what.
Speaker 2: Twenty forty one, and it wouldn't be completed until twenty
Speaker 2: forty seven or twenty forty nine, meaning to while your
Speaker 2: children's children will be probably out of high school by then,
Speaker 2: so not finished by twenty forty one, starting starting forty one,
Speaker 2: starting in seventeen years. And that's if everything goes to
Speaker 2: plan and everything is on schedule.
Speaker 1: What makes a plan take seventeen years to start?
Speaker 2: Well, I think with this way, if you're going to
Speaker 2: provide comment in twenty twenty four for something which starts
Speaker 2: in twenty forty one, LA is not going to look
Speaker 2: anything like it is now. I mean, the whole world
Speaker 2: is gonna change in seventeen years, much less twenty four
Speaker 2: twenty five years from now.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And that's been the problem with the subway system. Since
Speaker 2: the beginning, it's always been a good twenty five years
Speaker 2: behind schedule. And if we're talking about one or two
Speaker 2: new subway stops twenty five years from now, sorry, I
Speaker 2: don't know what I can really offer to the discussion.
Speaker 2: There's not even a likelihood I'm going to be alive
Speaker 2: by then, and if I am, I'm going to be
Speaker 2: drooling and incontinent.
Speaker 1: Wait.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, This plan, which isn't starting for seventeen years,
Speaker 3: is already expected to cost two point two billion.
Speaker 1: Dollars in twenty twenty four money.
Speaker 2: To add two more stops, Not twenty forty one money,
Speaker 2: but twenty twenty four money to add two stops underground.
Speaker 2: With all the boring, I would rather they just do
Speaker 2: an above ground light rail like they have running down
Speaker 2: Crenshaw and it would take you right to the Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 1: That seems like that would be much better.
Speaker 2: And it probably be less expensive, probably get it done quicker,
Speaker 2: and the world would be a happier place. But if
Speaker 2: I were to give my public comment on this outside
Speaker 2: of KFI, they are having some public hearings. There is
Speaker 2: one coming up on August ninth at Dorsey High School
Speaker 2: from ten am to twelve pm. There's going to be
Speaker 2: a hearing on Tuesday, August thirteenth from six to eight
Speaker 2: pm at the Pan Pacific Park Community Center, seventy six
Speaker 2: hundred Beverly Boulevard. And the third hearing is going to
Speaker 2: be virtual, and that's going to be Thursday the fifteenth
Speaker 2: from twelve pm to one thirty pm. And they list
Speaker 2: the zoom and call in number, So if you want
Speaker 2: to call in and give your opinions on whether this
Speaker 2: would be a positive or a negative for your grandchildren
Speaker 2: or your.
Speaker 1: Children's children's children, then you can do that. I'm personally tula.
Speaker 2: I think your kids should be on the call or
Speaker 2: going to these meetings because they're the ones who are
Speaker 2: going to be most impacted by it. It's not gonna
Speaker 2: be made. It's not gonna be Stephan and it's not
Speaker 2: gonna be Mark Ronner. Mark Ronner will be eighty five
Speaker 2: by then, eighty five?
Speaker 1: What lead me out of this? What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: But you will be I'm just saying it's a point
Speaker 1: of reference.
Speaker 3: Like there's no point of us even discussing or looking when.
Speaker 3: To me, this is almost like Metro not keeping it real.
Speaker 3: Like if you want to weigh in. They don't really
Speaker 3: want to know.
Speaker 2: There's no one who's who's working at Metro right now,
Speaker 2: who's gonna be working at Metro twenty five years from now.
Speaker 1: This is all about your descendants.
Speaker 4: So it's like those old sci fi stories of a
Speaker 4: multi generational ship. You're not getting to the destination, but
Speaker 4: your kids and grandkids might.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is the movie Passengers, and we're
Speaker 2: all gonna be putting cryo sleep and maybe we'll get
Speaker 2: to use this one day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only way.
Speaker 2: Twenty forty nine. I can't even tell you what's gonna
Speaker 2: happen next year. I can't even tell you who's going
Speaker 2: to die on Metro next week. But I was going
Speaker 2: to be the one who's gonna show up at the meetings, Like,
Speaker 2: does anyone have any suggestions? Yes, you and the back
Speaker 2: please state your name him mister mo Kelly from KFI
Speaker 2: AM six forty Yes, mister mo Kelly, what do you
Speaker 2: have to say? Yeah, I'd just like to recommend keV
Speaker 2: larves and helmets for everyone.
Speaker 1: Thank you, good night.
Speaker 3: You know this two point two four billion dollars could
Speaker 3: actually go towards maybe funding more police officers. Now I
Speaker 3: think if Metro wants want suggestions and they have a
Speaker 3: budget in mind, let's fix the Metro system.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: And honestly, this probably wasn't even ready for prime time.
Speaker 2: But they have to break up the negative news from
Speaker 2: people like me, so they have to put out a
Speaker 2: press release. They have to put out something saying, hey,
Speaker 2: Metro is expanding. Hey, Metro's going to be bringing this
Speaker 2: to you in your town, and this is going to
Speaker 2: make the Hollywood Bowl more accessible for who when the
Speaker 2: Hollywood Ball maybe torn down in twenty forty nine.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be funny.
Speaker 2: Don't guarantee that any venue is going to be here
Speaker 2: twenty five years from now.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the bright side. They're selling it the wrong way.
Speaker 4: The thing is, when it's finally finished, this big project,
Speaker 4: nobody will be getting shot with guns anymore. We'll all
Speaker 4: be using laser pistols. No, yes, you's your hair quotes lazer. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we'll all be using ray guns.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't. Look.
Speaker 2: That's if it's on schedule, it'll break ground in twenty
Speaker 2: forty one, and if it's on schedule, at its completion,
Speaker 2: it'll be twenty seven, twenty forty seven to twenty forty nine.
Speaker 2: They're putting in a two year window in which it
Speaker 2: might be finished.
Speaker 4: We'll have Star Trek transporters by then. It won't make
Speaker 4: any difference.
Speaker 2: I hope, and and the whole town will be electric
Speaker 2: by then, right, it'll just be electric vehicles.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it'll be like Logan's Run. You can just
Speaker 4: call somebody up and have a quickie and send them
Speaker 4: away quickie. On the electric circuit, we talk Logan's run.
Speaker 4: Quickie up, quickie, the kind that's fast life, every type
Speaker 4: of quickie. Yeah, yeah, don't pretend you haven't seen Logan's Run.
Speaker 1: I won't tell. I don't know what you mean. I
Speaker 1: want you to, you know, be very specific. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the quikie.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who may not have your
Speaker 4: part of this conversation is in complete bad faith.
Speaker 1: And I think I think we should go to the news. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll go to the news. Let me do my teas.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll talk about La City Council,
Speaker 2: how they may be gearing up for a possible fight
Speaker 2: with Mayor Bass, and also the idea of guaranteed income
Speaker 2: is expanding possibly here in LA.
Speaker 1: And let's see if anyone will get behind that.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: And if you follow me on social media at misterrom
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Speaker 2: can find a show on Facebook. I usually get into
Speaker 2: discussion about politics, but not only presidential politics. It just
Speaker 2: seems like people only want to discuss presidential politics because
Speaker 2: we're so inundated with the presidential race on cable news,
Speaker 2: which most people watch disproportionately than local news. And I
Speaker 2: usually start questioning folks like, do you even know any
Speaker 2: of the names of the people on your city council?
Speaker 2: Do you know what city council district you're in? Do
Speaker 2: you know if you live in a place in unincorporated
Speaker 2: LA which has any city council district responsible for it?
Speaker 2: Like me, I don't have a city council member, as
Speaker 2: I live in an unincorporated portion of LA, but the
Speaker 2: city council, mayor LA County Board of Supervisors, those elected
Speaker 2: officials have far more impact on me and you if
Speaker 2: you live in the La County area, then your president.
Speaker 2: Now it's fun to argue about presidential politics, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't really impact you as much other than just complaining
Speaker 2: and arguing on social media. But here are two things
Speaker 2: that I think you should take a closer look at
Speaker 2: and will impact you or your neighbor or someone around you,
Speaker 2: and you'll be hearing about it later on for things
Speaker 2: unrelated to it.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds convoluted. Let me straighten it out.
Speaker 2: LA City Council maybe gearing up for a fight with
Speaker 2: the mayor over LAPD discipline. LA City Council returned today
Speaker 2: from its summer recess and it's going to start considering
Speaker 2: trying to override Mayor Karen Bass's recent veto of a
Speaker 2: proposed ballot measure. The proposed ballot measure would change the
Speaker 2: disciplinary process for LAPD officers, including expanding the chief's powers
Speaker 2: to fire officers for misconduct. Now, this is something that
Speaker 2: I didn't know. LAPD's chief can only recommend that an
Speaker 2: officer be terminated and the ultimate decision. Final decision is
Speaker 2: left to the Board of Rights, a three member panel
Speaker 2: that serves as a quasi judicial body. The new proposal
Speaker 2: would allow the chief to fire officers outright for engaging
Speaker 2: in either sexual misconduct, fraud, excessive force, or abuse on duty,
Speaker 2: and some other things. And if you read that against
Speaker 2: the backdrop of news which is happening right now.
Speaker 1: I think Mark Ronner talked about it.
Speaker 2: I know Heather Brooker talked about it about the LAPD
Speaker 2: officer who was seeing on tape punching a guy who
Speaker 2: was in handcuffs in the face. That would be directly
Speaker 2: related to this. If the chief has expanded authority to
Speaker 2: be able to fire officers outright now. I can't speak
Speaker 2: to the specifics of that case, which is still going on.
Speaker 2: I can say I didn't like what I saw on
Speaker 2: the video. That's for damn sure. If a person is
Speaker 2: in handcuffs, I don't know if it's within department policy
Speaker 2: to sock someone in their jaw. I don't think so,
Speaker 2: but I'm quite sure someone will argue with me. But
Speaker 2: that's something which will impact you right where you live.
Speaker 2: The expanded powers, if it's allowed by the chief, and
Speaker 2: how that might impact law enforcement procedures, that's the first thing. Second,
Speaker 2: LA City Council, and I definitely want your thoughts on
Speaker 2: this mark is as much as you're allowed to. La
Speaker 2: City Council is considering expanding the guaranteed income program, but
Speaker 2: it would include abuse victims and foster kids. And if
Speaker 2: you didn't know, there was an original program which provided
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars a month for a year to thirty
Speaker 2: two hundred low income households and they're thinking about expanding
Speaker 2: that program. There was a motion today which would expand
Speaker 2: the program, which would allocate four to five million to
Speaker 2: help victims of intimate partner violence, domestic violence, and foster
Speaker 2: youth age sixteen to twenty four. Similar programs already implemented
Speaker 2: in Oakland Marine County, San Francisco, and Santa Clara County.
Speaker 2: If you've been paying attention, the idea of basic guaranteed income,
Speaker 2: universal income, however they want to call it, is not new,
Speaker 2: but I think it will be the future everywhere. If
Speaker 2: we think about this from the standpoint of automation, if
Speaker 2: we think about this from the standpoint of loss of jobs,
Speaker 2: and how there will be fewer and fewer jobs for people,
Speaker 2: especially on the minimum wage level, just ten and fifteen
Speaker 2: years from now.
Speaker 4: We did a story at seven point thirty by Michael
Speaker 4: Monks if you'd like me to replay that, please.
Speaker 1: Here we go thirty.
Speaker 6: Two hundred families living on around fifteen grand a year.
Speaker 6: We're given a thousand bucks a month for twelve months.
Speaker 6: University of Pennsylvania researcher doctor Amy Castro says the program
Speaker 6: was life changing for PAAR. They reinvested that time to
Speaker 6: their children's well being through Richmond activities, through spending time
Speaker 6: with their kids, through being.
Speaker 1: Able to set predictable bedtimes.
Speaker 6: If anyone's a parent, you know where that's important. City
Speaker 6: Kelceilman Current Price says he wants LA to do the
Speaker 6: program again. He and Kelceilman Hugo Sodo Martinez have pledged
Speaker 6: a million dollars each from their office funds to kickstart
Speaker 6: it in downtown LA. Michael Monks KFI News.
Speaker 4: So MO, I don't know how much of this kind
Speaker 4: of thing that you've read about, but I read about
Speaker 4: it pretty frequently. I do too, and the main opposition
Speaker 4: seems to be that people have an innate right down
Speaker 4: to their DNA hatred of other people getting quote free stuff.
Speaker 4: But every single time I read about how this has
Speaker 4: been carried out in the real world with the UBI,
Speaker 4: it's been a success. Do you know differently than that?
Speaker 1: No, it has always been a success.
Speaker 2: But I also know if you follow the trajectory of capitalism,
Speaker 2: if you follow the trajectory of the amount of people
Speaker 2: who are unable to afford to live in various cities
Speaker 2: around the country, the unaffordability, the unavailability of housing, this
Speaker 2: is an inevitability, I would say for most cities. Not
Speaker 2: in the media future, I say, twenty thirty years out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be because more and more people are
Speaker 4: going to be put out of work, especially if AI
Speaker 4: keeps going the way it looks as it's going to.
Speaker 2: Go right, That's exactly where I was going next, And
Speaker 2: those people aren't just going to go wander off into
Speaker 2: the snow and die for the convenience of everybody else.
Speaker 2: And this circles back to our conversation about homelessness, things
Speaker 2: that we don't want to see homelessness. And I'm saying, like,
Speaker 2: this is about humans, real lives and the real consequences
Speaker 2: of how we have what I called and you complimented
Speaker 2: me for it. I couldn't believe it unfettered capitalism, did I? Yes,
Speaker 2: you've completely forgotten about that. I think that's possible you're
Speaker 2: making that up. No, no, no, seriously, these are the
Speaker 2: consequences of having no boundaries and parameters constraints on these
Speaker 2: things that we love about capitalisms. Like we complain about
Speaker 2: how out of control rent may be, we may complain
Speaker 2: about how high groceries are, but someone is setting those prices,
Speaker 2: and someone is allowed to set those prices because it's capitalism,
Speaker 2: and grosser is going to try to make as much
Speaker 2: money as they can. I would say, gas station owners
Speaker 2: are going to make as much money as they can.
Speaker 2: And it all feeds into this equation of being unaffordable
Speaker 2: to live in this city or any other city. I
Speaker 2: say all that to say, if you don't like Ubis,
Speaker 2: now just wait. They're going to be everywhere and if
Speaker 2: you look at the history, they will also be successful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's bring this back to I admit an analogy
Speaker 4: to the old grade school science theory of conservation of energy.
Speaker 4: You remember that, And my point of that is that
Speaker 4: stuff has to go someplace. You can't wish or will
Speaker 4: something out of existence because you don't like it, you
Speaker 4: don't want to see it, it offends you. So there
Speaker 4: are going to be people who are poor, who are homeless.
Speaker 4: You need food and shelter, and they don't just go
Speaker 4: away because you don't want to deal with them.
Speaker 1: Is that like the first law thermo dynamics. I can't remember.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't say it's in that territory. Okay, all right,
Speaker 4: because what's the second law? Is that entropy? I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I can't remember it was forty years ago. But it's
Speaker 4: the theory of conservation of energy. It goes someplace. It
Speaker 4: doesn't just phase out of existence because you happen to
Speaker 4: be done with it.
Speaker 1: Something's got to be done with it.
Speaker 2: I don't think people take a big picture look at
Speaker 2: it and realize there's a reason why gas only costs
Speaker 2: fifteen cents in the nineteen seventies and now it's four
Speaker 2: or five dollars a gallon. We ain't ever going back
Speaker 2: to fifteen cents and twenty thirty years and the United
Speaker 2: States has been relatively lucky compared to Europe and other
Speaker 2: places around the world. Oh, the cost of gas. I'm
Speaker 2: glad we brought that. I was talking about when I
Speaker 2: was in Spain in the early two thousands. They're paying
Speaker 2: seven eight dollars back then.
Speaker 1: Exactly. We don't know how good we have it. It's
Speaker 1: not ever going back to fifteen cents.
Speaker 2: And when I my parents bought their house in Harbor
Speaker 2: City in nineteen seventy five, for it was fifty four
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for a four bedroom house.
Speaker 1: It's not going back to that.
Speaker 2: And you know what, it's probably going to be three
Speaker 2: point five million forty years from now.
Speaker 1: Where do you think will be?
Speaker 2: And if we're complaining about the minimum wage for fast
Speaker 2: food workers today, assuming that there is a minimum wage
Speaker 2: four fast food workers thirty years from now, do you
Speaker 2: think it's going to be twenty dollars an hour or
Speaker 2: forty dollars an hour? Oh, you're asking me, Well, it's
Speaker 2: semi rhetorical because it never moves back in the other direction.
Speaker 4: No. And meanwhile, nobody ever asks about the millions, the
Speaker 4: tens of millions that the CEOs make. Those make a difference. You,
Speaker 4: as a consumer, are paying those massive salaries.
Speaker 2: But we are so angry at our quote unquote politicians
Speaker 2: for not keeping gas low, for not keeping the cost
Speaker 2: of milk low. You're not paying attention where all this
Speaker 2: is going. It will forever go up. Well, right, and
Speaker 2: whether it's gas or milk, you have to look at
Speaker 2: the people who control it, and you have to make
Speaker 2: sure that you're angry at the right people. So talking
Speaker 2: about milk, what is it like five six seven? Giant
Speaker 2: corporations control eighty percent of the groceries we buy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: look to them, they're the ones who are price gouging,
Speaker 2: not unlike gas.
Speaker 7: Uh huh, there's a commonality. There's a similarity. You don't
Speaker 7: say it's Later with mo Kelly. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 7: Southwest Airlines. They're still in the year nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 7: Will tell you what we mean in just a moment.
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Speaker 1: And I'm the only one. I'm the only one who
Speaker 1: realized this.
Speaker 2: I'm the only one because it seems like I'm the
Speaker 2: only one who's talking about this. There's the story behind
Speaker 2: the story. Here is the story that I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what's behind the story. The story is Southwest Airlines. They're
Speaker 2: receiving I guess some sort of kudos or because they're
Speaker 2: one of the few airlines which was not affected for
Speaker 2: that CrowdStrike Microsoft outage, they received credit for it. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: we're Southwest, we didn't have to deal with that. The
Speaker 2: reason why is the story. We're not even the story
Speaker 2: behind the story yet this is also part of the story.
Speaker 2: Southwest Airlines is still using Windows three point one, which
Speaker 2: means that it never received the software patch update which
Speaker 2: basically fried every other Airlines. If you're not aware, your
Speaker 2: computer should be on Windows eleven right now, or if
Speaker 2: you work at iHeart as Windows eight. But that's another story.
Speaker 2: Won't get into that Windows three point one. Windows three
Speaker 2: point one came out in nineteen ninety eight. Remember how
Speaker 2: we were talking about the Phantom Menace, how we had
Speaker 2: to twenty five year anniversary of that movie. It's even
Speaker 2: before that nineteen ninety eight, Bill Clinton was still president
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight. None was even thinking about George Bush
Speaker 2: or Al Gore at that point. We weren't even into
Speaker 2: the presidential election season. Now here's the story behind the story.
Speaker 2: And if you've been listening to the later with Mokelly,
Speaker 2: we reported on the many issues of Southwest Airlines in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three. Do you remember
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty three, and this is the story
Speaker 2: behind the story, how Southwest Airlines agreed to one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty million dollar fine for their travel disruptions during
Speaker 2: the holidays in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Do you remember why they had
Speaker 1: the travel disruptions? They called it a brief outage, a
Speaker 1: software issue. Do you remember that? I do software issue?
Speaker 1: Windows three point one?
Speaker 2: Remember in May of this year how three thousand US
Speaker 2: flights were canceled as a part of a global computer
Speaker 2: outreache out outage. Southwest Airlines was the one disproportionately impacted
Speaker 2: Windows three point one. Do you know why people don't
Speaker 2: use Windows three point one anymore?
Speaker 1: It is prehistoric.
Speaker 2: It is unable to handle the complicated computational processes needed
Speaker 2: to manage. You couldn't run your iPhone, You couldn't run
Speaker 2: a basic smartphone today on Windows three point one computing power.
Speaker 2: You can't do anything with it now. I know there's
Speaker 2: an argument saying that it is less susceptible to certain
Speaker 2: viruses because they're targeting later versions of Windows.
Speaker 1: I get all that, But the point is the.
Speaker 2: Reason that we're using more modern computational technology is it
Speaker 2: is more suited for the complex processes that were requiring
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: You couldn't use three point one in this studio.
Speaker 2: There's literally nothing in the studio which would work on
Speaker 2: Windows three point one. I couldn't even get Mark Runner
Speaker 2: to do the news on Windows three point one. I'm serious,
Speaker 2: there's nothing in that studio which would allow him to
Speaker 2: use Windows three point one.
Speaker 4: Don't chinks me, man, there's enough that goes wrong on
Speaker 4: any given day to begin with.
Speaker 2: No, there is, but it's still better than Windows three
Speaker 2: point one. You would never put Windows three point one
Speaker 2: in any important piece of equipment.
Speaker 1: And to think that.
Speaker 2: It Airlines even today is running software from last century,
Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating last century.
Speaker 4: I have this theory that if you and I a
Speaker 4: normal people, had any real idea of just to what
Speaker 4: degree the things we rely on in civilization are held
Speaker 4: together with like duct tape and spit, we'd lose our minds.
Speaker 2: How is it if you are the CEO of Southwest
Speaker 2: Airlines the first time you have an outage that you
Speaker 2: don't say, hey, why don't we set aside a couple
Speaker 2: million and update our computer systems to at least Windows
Speaker 2: ninety eight. At least Windows ninety eight, Because I understand,
Speaker 2: I know a little salt about computing. Windows ninety eight
Speaker 2: is a pretty damn stable operating system, and.
Speaker 4: It's only twenty six years old.
Speaker 2: Only twenty six years old, okay, but it's still better
Speaker 2: than Windows three point one, and it's still better than
Speaker 2: Windows ninety five. But you're sitting with Windows three point one,
Speaker 2: and we wonder what would happen if something tragic occurred
Speaker 2: and we'd have another congressional hearing and we'd have the
Speaker 2: president of Southwest Airlines and we have Congress saying are
Speaker 2: you ready to give us your resignation in these five
Speaker 2: minutes that we're talking, as opposed to looking at it
Speaker 2: the obvious and saying, there's no way in hell that
Speaker 2: we can have a major airlines continue to function on
Speaker 2: Windows three point one because there's no other place in
Speaker 2: our technological society would Windows three point one be sufficient.
Speaker 4: That's just barely above the technology of one of those
Speaker 4: old TV pong games.
Speaker 1: Barely.
Speaker 2: When you say Windows three point one, you're talking about
Speaker 2: some of the earliest versions ever of Windows.
Speaker 1: Ever, is that the one with Clippy?
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, no, no, no, Clippy was still on there because
Speaker 2: Windows I think Windows ninety eight had Clippy as well,
Speaker 2: so definitely was on Windows three point one. And we wonder,
Speaker 2: and that's alongside what we know about Boeing and their issues.
Speaker 2: So you combine Boeing in Southwest as mostly Boweing planes,
Speaker 2: and you combine that with the knowledge that they only
Speaker 2: have windows three point one. It is amazing that we've
Speaker 2: not had more air disasters. It is amazing to me.
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