Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2: Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think
Speaker 2: when we are get off our show, idiot.
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Speaker 2: Our countries are.
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Speaker 1: really not. Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Here's Nick Coffee. I have to admit I am a
Speaker 1: little surprised, although happy, that we here at Sports Talk
Speaker 1: seven ninety have gotten into the Christmas spirit. Not with
Speaker 1: just you know what we're bringing to the table here
Speaker 1: on the airwaves with myself, Nick Coffee and Austin Montgomery,
Speaker 1: but how about those little liners we've got in there
Speaker 1: wishing everybody a merry Chris is in a happy holiday.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's a nice touch, I think.
Speaker 1: But before the show started, right before the show started,
Speaker 1: the latest one, Austin said, Seasons Greetings. Have you ever
Speaker 1: once said that to somebody?
Speaker 2: Seasons Greetings?
Speaker 1: No? I mean, I gotta be honest with you, and
Speaker 1: I think I brought this up at one point over
Speaker 1: the years, as I now kind of lose track of
Speaker 1: things I've discussed because I've been almost up to nine
Speaker 1: years now that i've been here at Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I know it's come up before. I just
Speaker 1: don't remember when. But seasons greetings like no, like, don't
Speaker 1: hit me with that. I mean, I know you mean well,
Speaker 1: but like there's just something that's not like, that's not
Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't hit the radar as far as
Speaker 1: like being a Christmas greeting. I mean, happy Holidays, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2: I'm way more of a Merry Christmas guy than anything.
Speaker 2: But I guess I've fallen into the PC trap over
Speaker 2: the last few years, like we know what holiday we're celebrating.
Speaker 1: He couldn't, I mean, wouldn't you agree that, like the
Speaker 1: ultimate one is Merry Christmas?
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, you don't want to offend anybody, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, I mean happy Holidays is is fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to think of like if I
Speaker 1: was if that wasn't a thing meaning Merry Christmas, which
Speaker 1: it always will be, but like if I had a secondary,
Speaker 1: like a backup to you know, throw out there. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go Season's greetings, and I don't really know what
Speaker 1: I would go with, probably happy Holidays or I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking here at a list. I just googled quickly,
Speaker 1: and there's not a whole lot out.
Speaker 2: There, you know, nice seas like decorations and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It's just corny. But I'm not gonna say it to somebody.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I think seasons greetings could could
Speaker 1: pass in and you know, if it's on the you know,
Speaker 1: the the thing your mom hangs up on the wall
Speaker 1: Christmas time in a dormant like if I like, if
Speaker 1: I meet somebody and i'm you know, like today I
Speaker 1: had lunch with my wife and uh nice the white.
Speaker 1: The wife and I were on our way out and
Speaker 1: our waitress said, uh uh, take care of heavy. Good day,
Speaker 1: and I said, you too, Merry Christmas. Like it just
Speaker 1: it's just a natural thing. If I'd have said season's greeting,
Speaker 1: she probably would have walked over to the table and
Speaker 1: just would have been anticipating a bad tip, because that's
Speaker 1: just it's not good energy. And she got a good
Speaker 1: tip because I'm a pretty good tipper, I think, And
Speaker 1: at least. But I actually I'm a paranoid tipper. Like
Speaker 1: I do what I think is fair, and I usually
Speaker 1: tend to go on the twenty percent side, especially if
Speaker 1: the service is good. But you know, I'm worried like
Speaker 1: that the one day the standard tipping percentage is just
Speaker 1: gonna like go up and nobody's gonna tell me, and
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be viewed as some bad tipper, although
Speaker 1: you know, I think some tipping etiquette. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of differing opinions on what is right, what's wrong,
Speaker 1: what's fair, that kind of stuff. But anyways, seasons, greetings, everybody,
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Speaker 1: live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. One week away
Speaker 1: from Christmas and just a couple of days away from
Speaker 1: our first college football playoff game, and I mean I've
Speaker 1: been jacked for this first ever twelve team playoffs since
Speaker 1: we knew we were getting it, and throughout the season
Speaker 1: it just kind of felt like with they're being so
Speaker 1: much parody and really they're not being a clear team
Speaker 1: that you feel like is the best team in the country.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just knew it was going to be
Speaker 1: great regardless of how the bracket shaped up, and here
Speaker 1: we are with some really awesome matchups. But it kind
Speaker 1: of hit me today like out of nowhere, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: this is happening, like it's this weekend, and it's because
Speaker 1: it's the first time. We don't usually I mean, we've
Speaker 1: never been in this position where we are about to
Speaker 1: watch over two days time for college football playoff games
Speaker 1: on home fields. I mean, the atmosphere should be great
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch. I don't really have any real
Speaker 1: preference here. Like, by the way, let me ask you this, Sauston,
Speaker 1: of the twelve teams left, like is there a team
Speaker 1: that you I mean, I'm sure there's not a team
Speaker 1: left that you're like all in on, but like, who
Speaker 1: take wagering out of it? Who would you like to
Speaker 1: see when the champ If you could pick one team
Speaker 1: of these twelve to be the national champion, who would
Speaker 1: you want it to be?
Speaker 2: I knew a company guy might love me for it,
Speaker 2: but I'm cheering on Indiana.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I know you're going to say that, but
Speaker 1: I'm with you, brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm cheering on and in a way other people
Speaker 2: might hate me. Good story. Yeah, they're a great story.
Speaker 2: And as much as I hate their coach, I would
Speaker 2: kind of like to see Ohio State kind of get it,
Speaker 2: just because I know they're a program that's been devoid
Speaker 2: of it for I wanted to say for so long,
Speaker 2: because didn't they went like the first playoff with Ezekiel
Speaker 2: Elliott whenever they first had the playoff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was on that team. But yes,
Speaker 1: they did end up getting the first one. It was
Speaker 1: Urban's only title there, I believe.
Speaker 2: And I can I can totally see them with all
Speaker 2: the disrespect and surely because they kind of craft the
Speaker 2: bet against Michigan, that would be kind of nice, but
Speaker 2: not like I'm this just this big, big ten homer.
Speaker 2: But I would love to see Indiana do it, and
Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna betting on them. And it hit me
Speaker 2: the same one. I was driving into work today, I'm like,
Speaker 2: holy crap, we actually got the playoffs start, and that's
Speaker 2: because I was thinking about betting, and I'm like, what's
Speaker 2: going on this weekend? That that's right? The playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's awesome flat night. It's our first game Indiana Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: and we can get into it a little bit later
Speaker 1: on in the week. But I just I understand that
Speaker 1: Notre Dame would be favored here, and I understand that
Speaker 1: nobody really thinks Indiana is worthy of being here, or
Speaker 1: maybe they don't believe that. It's that they're not worthy.
Speaker 1: They just don't think that they're any good because of
Speaker 1: the way their schedule sets up. And that's not a
Speaker 1: crazy take to have, because unfortunately, there really isn't enough
Speaker 1: data against you know, a real test, real test essentially,
Speaker 1: there's not enough of that to where you really know
Speaker 1: what you're getting with Indiana. But if there's one team
Speaker 1: where I feel like collectively college football fans would kind
Speaker 1: of not necessarily unite around because maybe you don't like Indiana,
Speaker 1: but like, nobody likes Notre Dame unless you're a Notre Dame, right,
Speaker 1: everybody seems to be anti Notre Dame and Notre Dame
Speaker 1: they're in a similar situation. What is their resume? They
Speaker 1: say that you know, again, they have better wins than Indiana,
Speaker 1: but like those wins aren't great, Like their best win
Speaker 1: is against Texas A and M and probably Louisville m HM.
Speaker 2: And we've seen them firsthand, so we know what they're
Speaker 2: all about.
Speaker 1: They lost in IU too, so and that's clearly the
Speaker 1: worst loss that anybody has within the twelve team playoffs.
Speaker 1: So I just felt like there would be more noise
Speaker 1: out there about like, hey, I get it, Notre Dame's favored,
Speaker 1: but Indiana can and beat them, and I think they will.
Speaker 1: I don't know what this opened up as, but it's
Speaker 1: now Indiana plus seven and a half and I can
Speaker 1: tell you this, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2: I think it's been seven and a half, like ever
Speaker 2: since they first cat over with the bracket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and another team that I'm really pulling for. And
Speaker 1: trust me, this is not I mean, maybe there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of it. That's the ACC thing we're going.
Speaker 1: It would be nice to see the ACC do well
Speaker 1: in the playoff with the two teams that are there.
Speaker 1: But I want SMU to beat Penn State. I don't
Speaker 1: have a clue if it's gonna happen, because Penn State's
Speaker 1: a team that like I think is good, but they're
Speaker 1: also again like they're the only thing that's I mean,
Speaker 1: Penn State's in the playoff because they started out so
Speaker 1: high and never messed up, and some teams did mess up,
Speaker 1: and that's why you didn't make the playoff. You got
Speaker 1: to be held accountable. But when it comes to SMU,
Speaker 1: I happen to think that they're really good. Now. They
Speaker 1: did look great against Clemson until they put that come
Speaker 1: back together, so maybe they'll be humbled in this one.
Speaker 1: But like, I felt like SMU was actually a really
Speaker 1: good team. In fact, I didn't know that for certain
Speaker 1: when they beat Louisville. I just felt like, what are
Speaker 1: we doing here with Ron English? Geez? But then they
Speaker 1: turned out to Like again, schedule wasn't super challenging in
Speaker 1: the ACC. But I happen to think that they're really good.
Speaker 1: I think they've got really good talent, so I don't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pick them to win, but I think the
Speaker 1: dogs are barking here in the first two games.
Speaker 2: It's right, I'm liking all of them, these spreads as
Speaker 2: I'm looking at them, They're they're huge, they're they're way
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: I never really had that's it is, got it. I
Speaker 1: mean again, we've never had a playoff before, so you
Speaker 1: don't know what to compare it to. But to see
Speaker 1: all of these games be a touchdown or more is
Speaker 1: crazy to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't really love Clemson.
Speaker 1: Me either, and I don't think we know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna get with them either.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I was reading that wrong. I thought it.
Speaker 2: I thought Clemson was a twelve point favorite.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's it's I'm seeing plus eleven and a
Speaker 1: half at Clemson on FanDuel. Now I'm sure it's twelve elsewhere.
Speaker 1: But I mean that one. I don't have much. I mean,
Speaker 1: if anything, I may touch the the over. But Texas's
Speaker 1: offense was not stellar against Georgia, but again that's Georgia.
Speaker 1: So uh. The best game though, it's got to be
Speaker 1: Tennessee Ohio State, right, Yeah, that's gotta be fun. That
Speaker 1: should be the best game. And I'm surprised that that
Speaker 1: Ohio State is favored about seven and a half. Then again,
Speaker 1: you know they Ohio State's the interesting team that has
Speaker 1: very little momentum because of how they ended their season
Speaker 1: with their embarrassing loss to Michigan. One of those years
Speaker 1: where like if you're ever gonna end the kind of
Speaker 1: like Louisville, if louisvill would have lost in football this year,
Speaker 1: like it's the one thing you can't do is loose
Speaker 1: to them. This year. That was the same thing with
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and they messed around and did lose to
Speaker 1: this Michigan team that was subpar, but they have the
Speaker 1: best roster probably in college football. Therefore, you know, them
Speaker 1: playing well and winning this whole thing is really not
Speaker 1: that is really not that out of reach. Also though
Speaker 1: with Ohio State, I mean you also keep it keep
Speaker 1: in mind they nearly lost to Nebraska. Take the rivalry
Speaker 1: stuff out of it. But like Michigan alone is just
Speaker 1: not a very good team and they beat them. Oregon
Speaker 1: got them and that was a weird game earlier this year,
Speaker 1: although Oregon is the number one team. So you know,
Speaker 1: I maybe that spread isn't as surprising as I as
Speaker 1: I initially thought it was. But I don't know, just
Speaker 1: I just think these games are gonna be competitive, and
Speaker 1: I hate to do you know, just nothing but dogs.
Speaker 1: But I just have a hard time thinking that like
Speaker 1: anybody's gonna really get like I shouldn't say blown out
Speaker 1: and I guess losing by eight wouldn't be a blowout,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the Tennessee, Ohio State game is
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be interesting. And then after that
Speaker 1: then we have, you know, then to moves on and
Speaker 1: those those teams waiting for their opponent, we'll we'll find
Speaker 1: out who they play. So I'm glad you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: betting on it, cause I'm excited to bet on it too,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to do it. But I've got an
Speaker 1: issue right now with FanDuel Sportsbook that oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: getting close to just saying, look, empty my account and
Speaker 1: close it. I'm done with you guys. And it's not
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean, I'll just explain what happened,
Speaker 1: and I get why they're doing what they're doing. But
Speaker 1: if you're gonna, like, if you're gonna be in the
Speaker 1: game as they say, and you know you're out here
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, knowing that you are taking anybody's
Speaker 1: money whenever you can get it on anything like, you
Speaker 1: need to have better resources at your disposal to be
Speaker 1: able to like unlock somebody's account for something that's like silly.
Speaker 1: So I went to Tennessee over the weekend. As we
Speaker 1: discussed earlier this, I was in Nashville on Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 1: So once I got into Nashville and I fired up
Speaker 1: the Fandael sportsbook, I'm now betting in Tennessee, and everything's
Speaker 1: done differently throughout the state, so they're very very particular
Speaker 1: on what you're like. You know, they're very particular on
Speaker 1: like the geo fencing. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: know what that is. The location stuff to where like that.
Speaker 1: That is probably the biggest challenge other than you know,
Speaker 1: people agreeing to make it legal in their states, some
Speaker 1: one of the biggest challenges is getting that technology down
Speaker 1: to where you because you know, think about how many
Speaker 1: states border each other, and if both have it's one
Speaker 1: thing if you end up. For example, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if this was true or not, but I did
Speaker 1: hear about it enough to where I do believe it
Speaker 1: was true. There was a spot on River Road before
Speaker 1: it was legal to gamble in Kentucky that you could
Speaker 1: go over there and park at this parking lot on
Speaker 1: River Road, of course, right across the river from Indiana,
Speaker 1: and you could get out your sports book app and
Speaker 1: sometimes or maybe one of the books would would connect
Speaker 1: to Indiana and you could bet without crossing the bridge.
Speaker 2: I did not know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I've never done it, but I heard
Speaker 1: enough about it to where I do feel like there
Speaker 1: was some truth to it. And that's not that big
Speaker 1: of a deal. I mean, technically, that's not I mean,
Speaker 1: if anything that's that's not hurting Kentucky. That's just you know,
Speaker 1: an issue with Indiana not having the geo fencing or
Speaker 1: the geo stuff down the way it needs to be.
Speaker 1: But when you've got two states that are now both legal.
Speaker 1: If I'm betting and I'm losing, and I am technically
Speaker 1: in Indiana, but i'm but my app shows Kentucky, that
Speaker 1: would mean that Indiana should be the ones taking my money,
Speaker 1: but Kentucky's getting it because the location stuff wasn't worked out. Therefore,
Speaker 1: you know, they're competent, They're they're competitors now when it
Speaker 1: comes to like, you know, they want to they want
Speaker 1: people to be gambling in their state. So you know
Speaker 1: that that's a very like big part of you know,
Speaker 1: how we do gambling online with these apps and whatnot.
Speaker 1: And I suppose like you can give somebody your log
Speaker 1: in and they're in a different state than like you know,
Speaker 1: like for example, if I'm in a state that is
Speaker 1: illegal to gamble in and I have an account, but
Speaker 1: like when I log in, it just tells me I'm
Speaker 1: not a lot to bet because of where I'm at,
Speaker 1: and I can do like other stuff, like they got
Speaker 1: other things that are that are like you can do
Speaker 1: fantasy football stuff that yeah, within the within the FanDuel
Speaker 1: sportsbook stuff. So like if if I say, hey, Austin,
Speaker 1: you're in Kentucky where it's legal, I'm in Florida where
Speaker 1: it's not. I've got like two hundred thousand dollars in
Speaker 1: my account, go make a big bet, but I need
Speaker 1: you to log into my account to use it. So
Speaker 1: you could log in and it'll verify that you're in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: But if they can see from a technological technological standpoint
Speaker 1: that within like two seconds, these two this same account
Speaker 1: was accessed in two states. Way like they're gonna flag
Speaker 1: that for far, yes, So like I get that, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy. Like all I did was
Speaker 1: travel to Tennessee make wagers, and then whenever I got
Speaker 1: back to Kentucky, I tried to log into my account
Speaker 1: and it said that it's like suspended for suspicious activity.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know if I fired it
Speaker 1: up like right as soon as I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how the technology works. But if I'm in Tennessee
Speaker 1: on the app and I and I then cross state
Speaker 1: lines and in Kentucky on the app and that is
Speaker 1: that is flagged, then that's an issue with you, Like
Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to monitor that right effectively,
Speaker 1: because that's not fraud. That's somebody just traveling. And I
Speaker 1: don't think it's really that rare for somebody to be
Speaker 1: on the app while traveling, and you know, like what
Speaker 1: do you do when you're in an airport? Right, Like
Speaker 1: you know, if people fire up the app when they
Speaker 1: take off and then you know it comes back online
Speaker 1: when you land, like they're probably gonna flag that for fraud.
Speaker 1: So anyways, like I just felt like that was you know,
Speaker 1: oh that stinks, But I'll go through the process. So
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, they tell me what I need to
Speaker 1: do in order to in order to get my you know,
Speaker 1: account verified, and for them to you know, make sure
Speaker 1: that they that they don't think that I'm doing something
Speaker 1: fraudulent that they're not that, you know, they're not allowed
Speaker 1: to do, and you know, it wasn't it wasn't anything crazy.
Speaker 1: But I had to take a picture of my ID.
Speaker 1: I had to take a picture of myself holding a
Speaker 1: piece of paper that set the date. And then I
Speaker 1: had to take a picture of the card that was
Speaker 1: used in my last deposit. Well I didn't use a card,
Speaker 1: I used Venmo. So then they said if you do that,
Speaker 1: you can take a screenshot. So I submitted all that
Speaker 1: and they said, thank you, we'll be back. You know,
Speaker 1: someone from our team will be back with you in
Speaker 1: twenty four to seventy two hours, and you know, of
Speaker 1: course it's more on the seventy two hours every time.
Speaker 1: So then I get nothing like and when you go
Speaker 1: to try to start a chat with an agent, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: I sent you what you're asking for. Can I just like,
Speaker 1: can somebody just look at it so I can start
Speaker 1: betting again. And anytime I go to the chat and
Speaker 1: enter my login info, it directly ends the chat and
Speaker 1: tells me that there's already like an open thing for
Speaker 1: me and that they're and they're looking into it, so
Speaker 1: like there's no point of contact. I can't call anybody.
Speaker 1: It's a bot every time, and I have to wait
Speaker 1: like three days to get one level of correspondence. So
Speaker 1: I sent all the stuff that I needed to send,
Speaker 1: and then last night I get an update and it's
Speaker 1: basically the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's like a run around. It's mean to me.
Speaker 1: No, It's like, this is what they asked for a
Speaker 1: last time. It's like they didn't even acknowledge that I'd
Speaker 1: sent something previously. It says I needed to I needed
Speaker 1: to give them the approximate date I last access the account,
Speaker 1: the location that I last accessed the account from, and
Speaker 1: the type of device used to verify my location, the
Speaker 1: product I was using, meaning fantasy sportsbook or casino, and
Speaker 1: then the approximate date of the last authorized deposit slash
Speaker 1: wagers on the account, which, by the way, those are
Speaker 1: two different things. Deposits and wagers are not the same thing.
Speaker 1: And I haven't deposited in a long time to have
Speaker 1: to go back and like reference it. Luckily I found
Speaker 1: the initial screenshot, like I sent them that last time.
Speaker 1: Why do they do that now? And it's it's just
Speaker 1: a big wasted time to where I have money in
Speaker 1: that account that I want to use to basically spend
Speaker 1: with them. If I don't win, they get my money, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's that's how this business works. That's probably what
Speaker 1: they want. And they won't let me use it. And
Speaker 1: I can't even get in my account to empty it
Speaker 1: to go elsewhere.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you're not you're not even able to
Speaker 2: log on. Yeah, it's the same thing with me because
Speaker 2: I'm going through that same process. I had to do
Speaker 2: it earlier where I took a picture of the back
Speaker 2: of my license, then the front and then a selfie
Speaker 2: because there was inconsistencies with my account. I don't know
Speaker 2: what that is, but I know at one point I
Speaker 2: was telling you that's off the air, and it.
Speaker 1: Sounds like similarities, like they just they think there's something like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, this account, there's not consistency as far
Speaker 1: as where it's where it usually logs in, how they
Speaker 1: verify location, that kind of stuff. Yeah, and I want
Speaker 1: to know, we've got to get you a break into it,
Speaker 1: and I I want to revisit this because I find
Speaker 1: I don't know how entertaining this to other people. But
Speaker 1: the my issue is not that they have to do
Speaker 1: all this, because I understand how serious this is, and
Speaker 1: it's got to be regulated, like this is a very
Speaker 1: serious thing that like they're going to make sure that
Speaker 1: they police this thing and regulated as best as possible,
Speaker 1: because you know, there's still probably people out there that
Speaker 1: wish we didn't have this kind of stuff because they
Speaker 1: think it's dangerous. So I get it, but don't be
Speaker 1: in my face every second of every day with marketing
Speaker 1: where you're clearly encouraging people to bet around the clock,
Speaker 1: and then when you don't have the resources and ability
Speaker 1: to like let people do it, people just have to wait.
Speaker 1: It'd be one thing I could just take my money
Speaker 1: to then be fine, But I can't even get into
Speaker 1: my account.
Speaker 2: And that makes you want to go to another competitor,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Of course, So last night, what did I do if
Speaker 1: I logged back into DraftKings for the first time in
Speaker 1: a long time, and luckily I had a hell a
Speaker 1: few phones sitting in there, and I fired off just
Speaker 1: one bet because I was just itching to get something,
Speaker 1: get something out, and I hadn't been looking at anything
Speaker 1: throughout the day because you know, I hadn't been into
Speaker 1: my account. Yeah, I didn't know what I was gonna
Speaker 1: be able to bed, but I got that Florida minus four.
Speaker 1: They nearly blew it, but they rolled on, which nice
Speaker 1: fuff for me to hit that. But also, you know,
Speaker 1: not a good look for the ACC as they had
Speaker 1: another bad night last night. And then here I am
Speaker 1: talking about a win that I got. My man, what
Speaker 1: was it four or five legs last night?
Speaker 2: You hit, yeah, a little four leg parlay. I think
Speaker 2: a two tough man I've been I've been doing with
Speaker 2: the four legger. I'll get two for a spread and
Speaker 2: then the other two over under. And I was sweating that.
Speaker 2: I was sweating that over under and one of the
Speaker 2: spreads because I think it was Radford. I can't bat,
Speaker 2: can't remember who they were playing, but it was a
Speaker 2: free throw contest at the end, and it was twelve
Speaker 2: and a half and it was just it was right
Speaker 2: at that one minute and there I think at one
Speaker 2: point that Radford was down by eleven, but they just
Speaker 2: kept fighting. I'm gonna have to go give me a
Speaker 2: Radford shirt now.
Speaker 1: Brad Bradford, Baby, that's the home of Carle Jones before
Speaker 1: he came to be a Cardinal's right shut out car League.
Speaker 1: All right, we got a lot to get to today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get this thing rolling here. Not that we
Speaker 1: haven't enjoyed ourselves thus far, but bracketology. I usually hate it,
Speaker 1: especially this time of year, but it is a reference
Speaker 1: point as to is Louisville considered a bubble team or not.
Speaker 1: In the eyes of one bracketologist, they are kind of
Speaker 1: in the bubble. I'll explain. Also, there's a stat that
Speaker 1: we have to talk about with this Louisville team that
Speaker 1: it's not a good one. But I don't really know
Speaker 1: if I should be encouraged, discouraged or what. But we'll
Speaker 1: get to that. Also, this Netflix series about the SEC,
Speaker 1: which is gonna be awesome. They followed a bunch of
Speaker 1: SEC teams this year. Netflix did, and I don't know
Speaker 1: when that's gonna come out, but they followed Kentucky and
Speaker 1: one of the games where they were embedded within the
Speaker 1: Kentucky football program was the Governor's Cup game and I
Speaker 1: cannot wait.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's go see that.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be awesome. And then there's all kinds about
Speaker 1: the stuff. But we got to get to a break.
Speaker 1: I'm way too late here, but stick around, don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: with Nick Coffee on Sports Talk seven ninety. One of
Speaker 1: my favorite Christmas songs for sure, Moose's definite favorite. Here
Speaker 1: loves this awesome Chuck Berry. Oh yeah, he's coming. He's
Speaker 1: coming around to Wham's Last Christmas.
Speaker 2: Oh he he's already to turn into a man.
Speaker 1: He likes it because I like it, But I want
Speaker 1: him to like it. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't want him to. I don't want him to just
Speaker 1: like by default say well, I love this song too
Speaker 1: because my dad loves it, which is really sweet, and
Speaker 1: you know I love that. That's that's you know, this
Speaker 1: is an age where you know, anything I do he
Speaker 1: just thinks is cool. That'll eventually fade, probably before you know,
Speaker 1: not before too long. But yeah, good good one there,
Speaker 1: Run run Rudolph, Santa's got to make it to town.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Wham Last Christmas is a great song, even
Speaker 2: better music video. Oh them just stuff in the in
Speaker 2: the cabins. This guy seeing the love of his life
Speaker 2: that he literally gave his heart to last Christmas, I mean.
Speaker 1: And then the next day what they do just gave
Speaker 1: it away. Gave it away, and she's with the new dude.
Speaker 2: They're they're sitting around like at at the end, having
Speaker 2: some wine and he gives her that look, you know,
Speaker 2: like the.
Speaker 1: Son of a bitches with that is I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just I mean, I can't I'm getting I'm getting worked
Speaker 1: up thinking about that kind of betrayal, that kind of
Speaker 1: you know, I.
Speaker 2: Can imagine when to go hang out, like why why
Speaker 2: even invite her that next year?
Speaker 1: And where that video is like filmed? That just that's
Speaker 1: what I want Christmas to be. Yeah, I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: nothing but snow and everybody very beautiful men and women
Speaker 1: and furry coats and big dogs and nice hair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, very very nice hair.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I want. That's the perfect
Speaker 1: Christmas for me. Maybe one day. I mean, it's got
Speaker 1: to be like I don't even know if it was
Speaker 1: actually film there, but like it's got to be based
Speaker 1: in like Aspen or something or Veil. Yeah, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: Colorado or somewhere in the Northeast.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but somewhere maybe even even even wanted to get freaky,
Speaker 2: maybe in Canada, somewhere that could be could be and
Speaker 2: and just a little side shot Chuck Barry's run Run Rudolph.
Speaker 2: They came out with something last week said that's like
Speaker 2: the favorite of every States song during during the Christmas time.
Speaker 2: This took Kentucky's was run.
Speaker 1: Running Now nice. I'm proud of my people. There we go.
Speaker 1: That's that's a classic. All right. It's coffee and Company
Speaker 1: and we are feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk
Speaker 1: seven to ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us as
Speaker 1: we take you up until six o'clock. In about an hour,
Speaker 1: around four thirty, we're going to talk to doctor Larry
Speaker 1: Binns of Pro Rehab Physical Therapy. As always we look
Speaker 1: forward to our chat with doctor Bens and Louisville is
Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of injuries this season, and that's
Speaker 1: one of the things we'll talk about with Larry. Not necessarily, well,
Speaker 1: he may. You never know. With Larry, I never want
Speaker 1: to put him in the spot because obviously he's very
Speaker 1: well connected with u of L and Pro Reha Physical
Speaker 1: Therapy is a big partner with u of L, and
Speaker 1: Larry was actually with the program during their trip to
Speaker 1: the Bahamas. And I don't think I need to tell
Speaker 1: you guys, Larry's very much affiliated with U of L
Speaker 1: in a way that most aren't and a big supporter
Speaker 1: and on the board of trustees and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So I never want to put him in the spot
Speaker 1: of like me asking a question and that like he's
Speaker 1: not gonna answer and isn't allowed to or maybe just
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to, and you know, just not gonna put
Speaker 1: him in that spot. But sometimes I won't, but I'll
Speaker 1: kind of like insinuate that, hey, I know you can't
Speaker 1: answer this, or you may not know, but you know,
Speaker 1: And then as soon as I get there, then then
Speaker 1: I can kind of get a read is he gonna
Speaker 1: give us anything or not? So he he may. In fact,
Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking he does not know
Speaker 1: the status of Trey Ora as far as when he's
Speaker 1: gonna be back. But you know, will he tell us,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe he says he thinks he could
Speaker 1: be back in a couple of weeks. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'd always heard that with Trey Ora. The timeline was
Speaker 1: right around the North Carolina game at the end of
Speaker 1: the year or maybe early January, so you know, again,
Speaker 1: and it's not like getting trailray Back is going to
Speaker 1: change things substantially as far as like you've added a
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna give you eighteen a night, nothing like that.
Speaker 1: But even if the statu sheet and by the way,
Speaker 1: he was a stat stuffer at Long Beach State and
Speaker 1: we only saw him play in two games. Now, he's
Speaker 1: not a shooter, but he's a really good passer, really
Speaker 1: good defender, really good athlete to where you know, if
Speaker 1: he gets in space, I mean, he's he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that I kind of feel like, in fact,
Speaker 1: I don't know this for certain, but I do feel
Speaker 1: as if most people don't realize how much he can
Speaker 1: actually help you. But I also don't want to act
Speaker 1: like it's a complete game changer to where all right
Speaker 1: with him back, now this team can go beat Kentucky,
Speaker 1: it r up and that kind of stuff. But one
Speaker 1: just having another fresh body that can you know, do
Speaker 1: a lot of different things may not produce a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, points necessarily, but you know, really getting
Speaker 1: anybody back would be big right now, no matter who
Speaker 1: it is, just because of injuries. But we know we're
Speaker 1: not getting Prior, and we know we're not getting korin
Speaker 1: Johnson back, and obviously that's sayeah, that's a real bummer.
Speaker 1: But the reason I brought all this up is because
Speaker 1: to tie into the whole injury stuff with our conversation
Speaker 1: we're having later with doctor Ben's. There's a stat here
Speaker 1: from Kelly Dickey, of course, U of L. You know, statman.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not a good I mean, that doesn't
Speaker 1: sound well. I'm not doing him justice by just calling
Speaker 1: him the UFL statman, but he is somebody that has
Speaker 1: for years now on Twitter provided like really good I
Speaker 1: mean stats that I don't even know how he would
Speaker 1: obtain the information. But I'm gonna believe him, trust him,
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's ever been wrong. He's like
Speaker 1: a UFL rain man or something. But anyways, Louisville currently
Speaker 1: is shooting fifty nine point four percent from two point range,
Speaker 1: meaning you know, field goals that aren't threes or free throws,
Speaker 1: including an insane number here. Ninety one point two percent
Speaker 1: is James Scott's field goal percentage. So he's not an
Speaker 1: offensive weapon, but I will give him credit that ninety
Speaker 1: one point two percent means he knows where his bread
Speaker 1: is buttered. He knows what he is as a player
Speaker 1: and he's just gonna dunk it near the rim or
Speaker 1: only take layups. So the two point nine percentage points
Speaker 1: higher this this then it's yeah, this the fifty nine
Speaker 1: point four right now. If the season ended, it ended today, this,
Speaker 1: that would be the best season on record for u
Speaker 1: of L. As far as field goal percentage. That isn't
Speaker 1: three just fiel, you know, field goals and free and
Speaker 1: anything that's you know, not a free thrower or a
Speaker 1: three pointer. Now let's talk about they're three point shooting percentage.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight percent from three point range is actually two
Speaker 1: point six percentage points lower than the worst season Louisville
Speaker 1: ever had as far as shooting it from downtown. And
Speaker 1: in fact, that season was last season, so you know,
Speaker 1: one of the worst seasons ever. No surprise that it
Speaker 1: was one of the worst shooting teams ever. In fact,
Speaker 1: it was until this one. And when I tell you,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to do with that, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not it's really not that surprising because you know,
Speaker 1: we've we've seen games where they you know, they'll make seven, eight,
Speaker 1: maybe nine, but they shot more than thirty, or they'll
Speaker 1: shoot thirty five and make four or five of them,
Speaker 1: like it's I mean, and I'm just throwing numbers out there.
Speaker 1: Those maybe a little bit exaggerated, but you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm you know what I'm talking about. We've
Speaker 1: seen games where they just have not even when they
Speaker 1: make threes and you feel like it was a factor
Speaker 1: in the win, they just shoot so many of them
Speaker 1: that the percentages is usually never, never very good. So
Speaker 1: I know they shot it better than that against Kentucky.
Speaker 1: And you know, some of those are just tough shots
Speaker 1: that are probably not gonna be something you can make
Speaker 1: at a really high rate because you know they're tough shots.
Speaker 1: Even if even good players are gonna miss very tough
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss more very tough shots than they're gonna make.
Speaker 1: So we know Chucky Hepberg can do that at times.
Speaker 1: We've seen Terrence Edwards show it recently, but you know
Speaker 1: that's still probably not going to be a super high
Speaker 1: percentage shot. And although you know they can do it,
Speaker 1: if you have to really rely on that, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not a good recipe. So Pat Kelsey's going to
Speaker 1: continue to have these guys firing up shots, and I
Speaker 1: understand why. As I've said, many times. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's just what he wants to do. But also this team,
Speaker 1: their ceiling is certainly lower than it was before the
Speaker 1: injuries happened, and you know, with what he has to
Speaker 1: work with, I just don't see a scenario where, you know,
Speaker 1: if you end up being a pretty team that makes
Speaker 1: it into the tournament, maybe somehow like safely. I just
Speaker 1: don't know that there's a scenario where you've done that
Speaker 1: in the three point shot is not a big part
Speaker 1: of what you're doing, and your percentage is in fact
Speaker 1: much better than twenty eight percent. So they're not gonna
Speaker 1: stop shooting threes. I don't think that they should. But
Speaker 1: man like, if they could find a comfortable medium as
Speaker 1: far as like just knowing they can be a little
Speaker 1: bit more selective, like it doesn't just have to be.
Speaker 1: And I thought against Kentucky they were comfortable, they were
Speaker 1: more loose, they were kind of just out there playing ball.
Speaker 1: And yeah, every one of them. One of the weapons
Speaker 1: they have at their disposal is they they they're shooters.
Speaker 1: Kind of funny to say now knowing that the team
Speaker 1: shooting twenty eight percent, But like a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys have played college basketball for many many years and
Speaker 1: this isn't This is an outlier type of season for them.
Speaker 1: I think a factor in that is the style they're
Speaker 1: now playing it. But what I'm getting at is, like
Speaker 1: I hope that the Kentucky game was a sign of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're still gonna shoot threes, but it's not going to
Speaker 1: be all right, we're in the half court. We need
Speaker 1: to really pick up the pace and get a move
Speaker 1: on it to try to get the first decent look
Speaker 1: from three week in get because I feel like at
Speaker 1: times that's what they're doing, and that's that's at this
Speaker 1: point just not gonna work. We've seen enough to know that,
Speaker 1: like that isn't it. So if you're you know, if
Speaker 1: you're just kind of out there, not being in such
Speaker 1: a hurry offensively in the half court and you're taking
Speaker 1: what the defense gives you, and you know there's a
Speaker 1: lot more movement going on, it's not early in the
Speaker 1: shot clock, but you know you've made an extra pass
Speaker 1: and there's eight seconds left and you get a good
Speaker 1: look from Watermen or rain Smith, Like that's where one
Speaker 1: I think you know that that's a better recipe for
Speaker 1: the for the shots to fall. I think those are
Speaker 1: better rhythm shots than what I've seen at times from
Speaker 1: these guys when they just kind of start jacking it
Speaker 1: up there. But you know, I also think it. I
Speaker 1: just think that's the way this team should play. And
Speaker 1: and they're starting to get there. But in any moment,
Speaker 1: like I won't be shocked if we if we see
Speaker 1: them come out against Florida State and it's right back
Speaker 1: to everybody just firing it up as quick as possible
Speaker 1: because they's somewhat open, and that's what their coach wants
Speaker 1: them to do. You know, they're getting more comfortable in
Speaker 1: the half court, there's no doubt about it. And that's
Speaker 1: that that goes along way. But here, here's what happens.
Speaker 2: Like if you end up and.
Speaker 1: If you end up taking a quick three, and this
Speaker 1: happened against Kentucky, and I don't have the stats in
Speaker 1: front of me. I'm just trying to pull them up here,
Speaker 1: but I don't need them for where I was going.
Speaker 1: But if you just jack up in early three and
Speaker 1: you don't have somebody back right away your quick miss,
Speaker 1: that ends up in maybe somewhat of a long rebound.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's leading to fast break points. On the
Speaker 1: other end that you're just giving up free points because
Speaker 1: you took an early shot and didn't have somebody back.
Speaker 1: Like the risk the risk reward there just doesn't add
Speaker 1: up to me. You know, you don't make enough of
Speaker 1: them to where you can justify continue continuing to shoot
Speaker 1: them that early in the clock and not having somebody
Speaker 1: back because teams are just stealing points. And this is
Speaker 1: again that's a result that one you don't want ever,
Speaker 1: but also like you don't you don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of margin for air like that, you can't be given
Speaker 1: up points or turning it over way more than your
Speaker 1: opponent because like you're already gonna have to play pretty
Speaker 1: well and and and limit mistakes and shoot well to
Speaker 1: beat good teams just because again you just you don't
Speaker 1: have a high ceiling anymore with the limitations that your
Speaker 1: roster has. So you know, when you have more turnovers
Speaker 1: and your opponent they have way more fast break points
Speaker 1: than you, and you know you're you're not getting to
Speaker 1: the free throw on as much as them. Like those
Speaker 1: are just things like you can still mess around and
Speaker 1: win some games like that. I think it'll depend on
Speaker 1: who you're playing, but I just think there's some little
Speaker 1: little adjustments that can be made, and I think some
Speaker 1: of them look like they were being made against Kentucky.
Speaker 1: That I think, you know, doesn't mean that it changes everything,
Speaker 1: but I think it could actually go a long way
Speaker 1: for this team to just, you know, not be so
Speaker 1: reliant upon the three. They're always gonna need it, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But at the same point in time,
Speaker 1: like if you rely on it that much and you're
Speaker 1: having like an off night early, you can get behind twenty.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what's happened in some of
Speaker 1: these games. So again, not a great stat by any means,
Speaker 1: but really not that surprising. All right, Well, what I
Speaker 1: want to get to On the other side, we'll give
Speaker 1: you an update on which players for Louisville have have
Speaker 1: opted out for this Bowl game. It's actually not as
Speaker 1: big of a list as I would have expected. So
Speaker 1: there's that. And then also we got to talk about
Speaker 1: the Netflix documentary series that was filmed during this college
Speaker 1: football season. Kentucky of course one of the SEC teams
Speaker 1: that's going to be a part of it, and I
Speaker 1: love the two games we know, or the two weeks
Speaker 1: I guess we know that the Netflix crew was embedded
Speaker 1: within the program because it's going to be a very
Speaker 1: enjoy a very enjoyable watch for Louisville fans, So stick
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Speaker 1: At my dorm in Springfield, Kentucky, at Saint Catharine College
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, this song probably played a
Speaker 1: billion times. My roommate Rashad who was a big fan
Speaker 1: of this song, and he introduced me to a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of things that I didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: experience in Bulat County, Kentucky. He grew up in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: But yes, that song took me back to those to
Speaker 1: those days. So thank you for that, for that Austin
Speaker 1: Jim Jones, Dude, that was like that was every warm
Speaker 1: like every team in basketball. I feel like at any
Speaker 1: level college, high school, like everybody warmed up to that song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that year I had a stranglehold on me n
Speaker 2: O six. I was in sixth grade. Every everyone loved that.
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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of a known thing. That's what
Speaker 1: they that's what they do when it comes to ad libs.
Speaker 1: Whenever they're they're about to do a verse, are in
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Speaker 1: the list of players that are opt outs for the
Speaker 1: Sun Bowl outside of guys who've already hit the portal,
Speaker 1: that's a given. You know, those guys obviously aren't aren't
Speaker 1: gonna end up playing in the bowl game. But then
Speaker 1: the others are just guys who are getting ready for
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, Tyler Schuck, Jacory Brooks, Ashton Jalotti, and
Speaker 1: Marii Huggins Bruce, which is kind of a head scratcher.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just like, yeah, I'm done, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go to El Paso, Texas on New Year's I'm
Speaker 1: done with my college football career. Because he did say
Speaker 1: that he was going to go to the NFL Draft
Speaker 1: and start training for that, and you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: going I don't be mean, but like, I don't think
Speaker 1: he has any chance of being in the NFL. But hey,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'm wrong, but yeah, you'll be not
Speaker 1: the same team that you You know, you've been throughout
Speaker 1: the year when you don't have your starting quarterback and
Speaker 1: he played every single snap, it seemed your best receiver
Speaker 1: and Jacory Brooks, your best defensive player in Ashton Jealotti.
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel still, I mean, Louisville still favored,
Speaker 1: and those things are are factored in. Whenever you look
Speaker 1: at the line, they'll they'll adjust it dependent upon who
Speaker 1: they hear is is opting out in Louisville. I mean,
Speaker 1: they still have the freshman running back super great, and
Speaker 1: still some really good players on this team, Chris Bell,
Speaker 1: a receiver. I mean, you know, you still have a
Speaker 1: good team, but it's much different. And you know, a
Speaker 1: big part of winning and losing a game is at
Speaker 1: times quarterback play. And we don't have a clue what
Speaker 1: we're going to get out of the guy that's going
Speaker 1: to start, which I assume is going to be Pierce Clarkson.
Speaker 1: All Right, So speaking of transfers, I'm looking at where
Speaker 1: some of these guys have landed, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's some I'm missing, but I did
Speaker 1: see earlier today Jamari Johnson, the tight end that I
Speaker 1: you know, really really really thought highly of and wanted
Speaker 1: to see stick around and have a great career. He's
Speaker 1: going to be the one that breaks my heart, meaning well,
Speaker 1: he'll go elsewhere, which, by the way, we now know
Speaker 1: where he's going. He's going to Oregon, which he originally
Speaker 1: picked ufl over Oregon a couple of years ago. But
Speaker 1: he's going to go to Oregon, the number one team
Speaker 1: in the country. Clearly they've got money. I'm sure he
Speaker 1: got a lot of it, and Oregon is the number
Speaker 1: one team in the country. Therefore, like he's going to
Speaker 1: the team that is, you know, quite literally on top
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if they're going to win
Speaker 1: the playoff, but you know, you don't want to lose
Speaker 1: anybody to that you like. But it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: And I think for me, just me, like knowing that
Speaker 1: he's going there, like it makes a little more sense
Speaker 1: because you know, I think money was probably a factor
Speaker 1: and Oregon is a big brand, bigger brand than Louisvill.
Speaker 1: Let's be real, So you know, it's not ideal that
Speaker 1: it happens overall, but like i'd be, I'm happier to
Speaker 1: know that he's going there rather than going to, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, a school that's at the same level
Speaker 1: of Louisville. And then Ben Perry I saw is transferred to.
Speaker 1: Is it UCLA? I believe I think that's where I
Speaker 1: saw he's gonna end up. So best of luck to
Speaker 1: those guys, and you know, maybe they end up having
Speaker 1: good endings to their career elsewhere. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: I think Jamar Johnson will. But Ben Perry's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that, like I would like for him to
Speaker 1: be back because hey, he gives you good depth. He's
Speaker 1: played for a few years. But like you can lose
Speaker 1: him and know that, like the likelihood of being able
Speaker 1: to kind of fill that void is doable. With Jamari Johnson,
Speaker 1: I think that's doable as well, especially when you've got again,
Speaker 1: as we talked about yesterday, the number one tight end
Speaker 1: in the portal from Perdue that took took a visit
Speaker 1: to campus. All right, So this news came out earlier today,
Speaker 1: And by the way, all jokes aside as far as
Speaker 1: like wanting to see Kentucky feature during their worst season
Speaker 1: in the Stoops era, like that is going to be
Speaker 1: a factor. But like I'm this is right up my alley,
Speaker 1: these Netflix documentary series that follow college football programs. I mean,
Speaker 1: JUCO was the Last Chance You show, which I loved, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know people realize this, but
Speaker 1: the Netflix show Wrestlers that was produced by the same
Speaker 1: guy who did Last Chance to You and Cheer, So
Speaker 1: I love these types of shows. I'm a documentary dork.
Speaker 1: I've talked about that quite a bit. But this is,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the subject of this is something
Speaker 1: that I think you know that I'm highly interested in
Speaker 1: college football. So there are a handful of teams that did,
Speaker 1: in fact choose to opt out, and we can get
Speaker 1: to that a little bit later, because I do want
Speaker 1: to have a conversation more so on like why you
Speaker 1: would opt out and what the pros and cons of
Speaker 1: being on this are. But what we do know about
Speaker 1: the Kentucky part of it is they're featured this seaton.
Speaker 1: They're going to be in the first season, and apparently
Speaker 1: there's some that they're going to be doing next season
Speaker 1: that are going to be a part of it. So
Speaker 1: I guess it's a two part thing. But Louisville or not.
Speaker 1: But the Louisville game in the South Carolina game are
Speaker 1: there are the games for Kentucky where the crews were
Speaker 1: in town featuring this wildcap program. And I don't think
Speaker 1: and I mean this, I'm not sure you could. You
Speaker 1: could if Kentucky fans had to say, Okay, we know
Speaker 1: they're gonna be here for two games, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: with They're gonna be embedded within the program, filming week
Speaker 1: of practice, off the field stuff during the game, Like
Speaker 1: that's how this stuff works. If there's two games I
Speaker 1: want to make sure they're not there for it would
Speaker 1: be these two. No what other game, because I mean,
Speaker 1: they beat Ole miss that's not gonna be on there
Speaker 1: they I mean, they'll probably reference it, of course, but
Speaker 1: they played Georgia to the wire. That's not gonna be
Speaker 1: on there. And then really, you know, other than that,
Speaker 1: they lost it. And there aren't many good moments to
Speaker 1: choose from. But I think these are the worst because
Speaker 1: it's your rival. You're just beating the brakes off you.
Speaker 1: When your your program is in clear full toxicity and
Speaker 1: you don't want your like it it, that's the worst time.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean just because of the rival, but
Speaker 1: like at the end of the year, like, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: Kentucky fans were pissed that Stoops was coming back, and
Speaker 1: they probably still are, to be honest with you, because
Speaker 1: not much has changed. And then the South Carolina game,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was when you I mean, I
Speaker 1: guarantee you there's there's because think about this, Austin. Before
Speaker 1: they played South Carolina, they played Southern miss and one.
Speaker 1: At that point, they still lived in that fairy tale
Speaker 1: world where they were like something that they they're not.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were coming off of a decent season
Speaker 1: last year and yeah, they still had bragging rights at
Speaker 1: the time against Louisville, but like you know, they were
Speaker 1: the cocky, over the top version of themselves leading up
Speaker 1: to South Carolina because they actually thought that they think
Speaker 1: they're snobs to South Carolina. They actually, you know, until
Speaker 1: this year, they felt as if, despite losing two in
Speaker 1: a row, that for some reason that like they were
Speaker 1: superior and they could be the elitists when it comes
Speaker 1: to South Carolina, which was just so unwarranted, and then
Speaker 1: they got beat for the third straight time and got
Speaker 1: in Yeah, they got crushed in that game, just completely hammered.
Speaker 1: And at that point, like again I thought at that time, Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't think I probably said it on the show. Wow,
Speaker 1: I've never really felt the Kentucky fan based this low
Speaker 1: on Mark Stoops. What a letdown. And then little do
Speaker 1: they know that they would only win one SEC game
Speaker 1: that year and finish four and eight and one and
Speaker 1: seven in the league. So, I mean, honest question, not trolling.
Speaker 1: If you're a Kentucky fan, would you want to watch that?
Speaker 1: I think there's something cool, I guess regardless of what
Speaker 1: of what of what comes, you know what's going on
Speaker 1: to see, because again, this is cinematic stuff. This isn't
Speaker 1: like ESPN interviewed somebody in the locker room before the game.
Speaker 1: This is like feature films, cinematic like storytelling, like it's
Speaker 1: it's not to be too nerdy here, but it's quite
Speaker 1: literally art and it's and it's interesting. And when it's
Speaker 1: something you know a lot about and you're familiar with,
Speaker 1: like your team, it could be interesting. But it could
Speaker 1: also be like, I don't think you're gonna see anything
Speaker 1: that makes you maybe view stoops differently. Maybe it does,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but like I would have a tough
Speaker 1: time watching that, Like I think I could. I could say,
Speaker 1: all right, look it's gonna suck, but I I'll tune
Speaker 1: in because I want to see my programs sort of
Speaker 1: in that in that in that light, meaning on this
Speaker 1: really cool show. But then when you see what they're covering,
Speaker 1: like it'll probably just remind Kentucky fans how bad the
Speaker 1: season was. Like it could be one of those things
Speaker 1: that and I don't know when it's gonna come out,
Speaker 1: does it say? Let me see if I can pull
Speaker 1: up the date here, Yeah, it'll be it'll be released.
Speaker 1: Here's what it says, by the way, says Netflix announced
Speaker 1: the show earlier today, which will provide an unfiltered access
Speaker 1: to coaches and players in the college football and college
Speaker 1: football's most dominant conference and give an exclusive look at
Speaker 1: key matchups throughout the season. It says here the series
Speaker 1: is produced about Box to Box Films, the same company
Speaker 1: behind uh Sprint, Full Swing, Formula One, Drive to Survive,
Speaker 1: and Breakpoint, and it says that it's going to be.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be eight forty five minute episodes and it
Speaker 1: will be released this summer in twenty twenty five. So
Speaker 1: think about this. You could like maybe you ended up
Speaker 1: doing decent in the Portal and you're just like, there's
Speaker 1: no real no, you don't know for sure how good
Speaker 1: you're going to be, and you're just trying to find
Speaker 1: hope and you want to be excited, and you're just
Speaker 1: trying to think, Okay, last season was an outlier. Stoops
Speaker 1: really cleaned up the culture, and you're probably lying to
Speaker 1: yourself and when you're saying that, but you're just that's
Speaker 1: what you do as a fan because you don't want
Speaker 1: to be miserable. You want to just you know, be excited.
Speaker 1: But then you see this docuseriies right before the season starts,
Speaker 1: and you go back to like, uh oh, we still
Speaker 1: have this guy as our coach, and man, yeah, those
Speaker 1: guys might have been knuckleheads, but man, we don't have
Speaker 1: a Deon Walker out there, we don't have a Dane Key.
Speaker 1: We've lost really talented players. So maybe they clean up
Speaker 1: in the Portal and it's a totally different situation, But like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that could have worked out worse for
Speaker 1: Mark Troops in Kentucky as far as how the season
Speaker 1: went and when the when the Netflix people were there filming.
Speaker 2: I love what Netflix is doing into the sports realm now,
Speaker 2: and they did the thing with the quarterbacks a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago. And I'm biased because they've been featuring
Speaker 2: Vikings the last two years with Justin Jefferson and the
Speaker 2: wide receivers. And I'm also hearing some talk that there
Speaker 2: hasn't been anyone that come out right setup, but they've
Speaker 2: been saying that there's a lot more camera in productions
Speaker 2: and NFL locker rooms this year, so I think that
Speaker 2: a lot of the people are saying a lot of
Speaker 2: the online chatter is saying that they're going to do
Speaker 2: the same thing, but with coaches. NFL coaches are going
Speaker 2: to take a few NFL head coaches and follow their journey,
Speaker 2: and Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings coach, probably may be one
Speaker 2: just as well. So I'm interested in seeing that. And
Speaker 2: then you got the full swing. I haven't watched a
Speaker 2: Formula one one yet, but that one's pretty good.
Speaker 1: People love it, but I just can't see myself getting
Speaker 1: into you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, if you had any like in trade like they
Speaker 2: had like an Anthony Richardson or the Colts or like
Speaker 2: a Shane sich In one. Yeah, you'd totally be into it.
Speaker 1: I mean this is I mean again, even if it's
Speaker 1: not on like necessarily something I'm really into, like college football,
Speaker 1: I'll binge these shows and watch the hell out of them.
Speaker 1: All Right, we got to get to the top of
Speaker 1: the hour break here, We're still rolling along for the
Speaker 1: next couple of hours. To stick around, we'll revisit the
Speaker 1: whole Netflix series thing, because again, there are some teams
Speaker 1: that chose to opt out. And I think what you're
Speaker 1: gonna see as this plays out, is it like there's
Speaker 1: risk there, right, You know, you need momentum more than
Speaker 1: ever in college football because guys have the opportunity in
Speaker 1: any moment to leave. You need money too, of course
Speaker 1: within il but like you're Kentucky for that matter, has
Speaker 1: no momentum and it's really crucial. Now maybe they get
Speaker 1: it back next year, who knows, But like, not only
Speaker 1: do you have no momentum, it's going to be publicized
Speaker 1: to millions of people to watch that like you were
Speaker 1: the fifteenth you know, best team in a sixteen team
Speaker 1: league all right, quick break, stick around