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Speaker 1: This is Tom Thompson Costenos new Raptilian from Strange Group Podcast,
Speaker 1: and we're here I called the Conspiracy to talk about
Speaker 1: some bizarre and strange things. So strap in for this
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Speaker 5: Everybody, all right, welcome to the show. Welcome to another
Speaker 5: Strange brew podcast. And I guess technically it's a swapcast.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: This is a very special episode. So to introduce myself.
Speaker 5: If you don't know who myself is, I am Tom
Speaker 5: kat Aka the Raptilian. You're gonna okay, introduce yourself, Reverend Kaijui.
Speaker 2: It folks, what's happening?
Speaker 5: Everybody, and we have a very special guest from across
Speaker 5: the Pond. We have Ian from the Raw Bahram We
Speaker 5: Bram you podcast Watch Brain.
Speaker 2: We still got it wrong. I know.
Speaker 6: It's a lot easier for us Scott's to ring off
Speaker 6: the tongue bo I'm you, yeah said, but I'm you
Speaker 6: for anyone who doesn't know. But I'm you is from
Speaker 6: the film Babe, the nineties film with a pig that
Speaker 6: wants to be a sheep dog.
Speaker 7: I've been running for about just over a year doing.
Speaker 6: Conspiracy, politics, philosophy, and I've also got started a new
Speaker 6: show with a woman from California where we do like
Speaker 6: live we use meiling up, it's similar to zoom, and
Speaker 6: we do like political issues. We did like gun control, immigration,
Speaker 6: so those are on every second Saturday night.
Speaker 7: But for me, this is just it's.
Speaker 6: Been a journey that I've been on for five or
Speaker 6: six years, starting off with getting into politics around about
Speaker 6: when Scotland the independence vote was happening, and then Brexit,
Speaker 6: and then it got into philosophy and then someone mentioned
Speaker 6: they believed in fly Earth that house party, and it
Speaker 6: got me down the rabbit hole and I've never left
Speaker 6: it since.
Speaker 4: So are you are you a flatty, Yes you are.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that. We just I thought we discussed this.
Speaker 5: I'm not on that fucking We've covered it once, right
Speaker 5: and we made fun of flat Earth, and you know,
Speaker 5: it's just it. I've said this before just to get
Speaker 5: in this before we get in the lock nest, right that, Uh,
Speaker 5: for me and my beliefs, it thwes everything out the window,
Speaker 5: so to speak. I know there's different versions of flat
Speaker 5: Earth and all that stuff, but like I believe, I
Speaker 5: highly believe in aliens in different dimensions, and that we
Speaker 5: can travel light years to different planets, and that aliens
Speaker 5: have technology to travel around the universe and they just
Speaker 5: sit here with their popcorn and watch us destroy ourselves.
Speaker 5: But essentially, like and I believe in a high revolution,
Speaker 5: that you can reincarnate a planets once you get into
Speaker 5: higher soul evolution.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So like it would literally throw everything out the window.
Speaker 5: I've had I've had some big flat earthers try to
Speaker 5: get on the podcast. Who's that guy? One head? Uh
Speaker 5: David Weis tried to get on my podcast and I
Speaker 5: told him I didn't want him on.
Speaker 2: Uh yea Mark sergeant on?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark sergeant. And I've had a bunch of people
Speaker 5: pople that are like, hey, are you interested in doing
Speaker 5: an episode about flat Earth. It's like, no, we covered
Speaker 5: it and made fun of it and threw it out
Speaker 5: the window. But I understand because I did go on
Speaker 5: showed it actually a Blue Coyote, a younger podcast. He's
Speaker 5: in his early twenties, young dude, but he's super into
Speaker 5: conspiracies that I jumped on his show and we he
Speaker 5: is flat Earther, and we did discuss it, and I said,
Speaker 5: you know, to each is their own. Everyone has their opinions.
Speaker 5: I believe in fucking reptilian creatures that eat children and
Speaker 5: drink their blood. In the Queen's one of them. So like,
Speaker 5: everyone has their own opinion.
Speaker 4: So Tom, you having that globe behind you is just
Speaker 4: pure coincidence.
Speaker 2: Day? Oh is that? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I set this up perfectly.
Speaker 2: No, No, I want to hear you.
Speaker 4: I want to hear you acknowledge that coincidence just happened.
Speaker 2: And it has all the monsters on it.
Speaker 5: For all the listeners on the audio, I have like
Speaker 5: one of those old school like globes and it has
Speaker 5: all the monsters on them where they supposedly were at
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 2: I love it. But where what would you call that?
Speaker 5: This is a glow.
Speaker 2: It just happened. Oh, you will never.
Speaker 4: Ever ever use the word coincidence in a real life scenario.
Speaker 2: That's what I love it.
Speaker 5: I have China, Russia, we're Scotland. Let's get on the
Speaker 5: Scotland side of it.
Speaker 4: Right there, Bro, this episode's gonna get canceled. You just
Speaker 4: said the word Russia. So this will be a lot
Speaker 4: of fun.
Speaker 5: We're doing this swabcast, so this will technically be on
Speaker 5: Ian's podcast too, so go check that out. If you're
Speaker 5: a fan of Strange Brew, I'm sure you'll enjoy the
Speaker 5: conspiracy side of Ian, even if he is a flat earther.
Speaker 5: But this this episode, we're gonna have a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: You know. This is an introduction to have Ian on
Speaker 5: because I'm sure we'll work together going forward and doing
Speaker 5: other episodes, because especially I like being able to cover
Speaker 5: things around the world. Obviously, there's been fans that are like,
Speaker 5: we have to do some more Canadian stuff. We've been
Speaker 5: trying to do, but I want to travel around the
Speaker 5: world when it comes to paranormal conspiracies, and there's Scotland
Speaker 5: has like tons of paranormal folklore even true crime stuff
Speaker 5: like that. And when I was looking into this, lockness
Speaker 5: is thick, not just the monsters thick, but you have
Speaker 5: like so much shit like layers, like there's parent am
Speaker 5: all events. There's obviously the connection to Alistair Crowley, which
Speaker 5: will probably eventually cover another episode because Anton's like, do
Speaker 5: you want me to look up Alister Crowley stuff?
Speaker 4: But I have a couple of a couple of things
Speaker 4: just the monster connection where they're all like cool. Maybe
Speaker 4: the same thing when when people bring up the whole
Speaker 4: like well, when Crowley opened the Portal and the Great Pyramid,
Speaker 4: that's when the UFO started showing up.
Speaker 2: There's a similar thing with the lockness.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I and you said it, you started realizing
Speaker 5: the connection to Crowley and ship right.
Speaker 6: Yes, Crowley is one that I do want to do
Speaker 6: an episode, and I've been threatening to do it for
Speaker 6: a while now. And I listened to those conspiracy guys
Speaker 6: quite a lot, and they did a deep dive like
Speaker 6: a six seven hour episode on Crowley and I've listened
Speaker 6: to it, so all the knowledge is there are just
Speaker 6: a while ago.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 6: He's he's a guy that I believe that the people
Speaker 6: that are in our world are modeling themselves off of
Speaker 6: or taking a lot of what He put into the
Speaker 6: world and making it, you know, reality now.
Speaker 7: So I think it's I mean, I'm quite emboised about it.
Speaker 6: Like I live in Scotland and I didn't even know
Speaker 6: how this stuff, Like you're saying all this folklore tales
Speaker 6: and things, and I should really know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: But Lockness is obviously the main one everyone knows about,
Speaker 6: the Lockness Monster.
Speaker 5: Have you ever seen the Lockness Monster?
Speaker 7: No? I haven't.
Speaker 6: No, I've actually only been once when I was little, little,
Speaker 6: like probably less than you didn't You didn't go.
Speaker 4: To Bullskin, then that was gonna be my next question.
Speaker 4: Have you ever been to Bullskin manor No?
Speaker 6: No, My hometown is about two and a half hour
Speaker 6: drive from Burness and then where I live now is
Speaker 6: probably about three and a half. So we are planning
Speaker 6: on going actually in the next few months.
Speaker 2: So it's a good idea.
Speaker 5: Well it's warm out, nice weather and shit like that,
Speaker 5: and get out there. Yeah, like we covered Crowley and
Speaker 5: we did I think like two and a half hours
Speaker 5: something like there, close to two hours. It's like that
Speaker 5: was enough. I don't know how those fucking dudes do
Speaker 5: like five six fucking.
Speaker 4: Hours, because there's that much information on me. You squeeze
Speaker 4: it into two hours. You can definitely stretch it out.
Speaker 4: And then you throw a little bit of banter and
Speaker 4: just stretched out he stretched out that.
Speaker 6: Our prime Minister Boris Johnson. His wife last year did
Speaker 6: a f r reann Ackman of al Starck Croy's life,
Speaker 6: paying homage to him.
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, Boris Johnson, the devil. Well, they're all devils.
Speaker 5: So I'm drinking on some coffee with some liqure in it,
Speaker 5: and just because I'm an alcoholic, I do.
Speaker 2: Have a great food vod Ca soda.
Speaker 7: Nice.
Speaker 4: I gotta go to a birthday party after this where
Speaker 4: I'll be on roller skates and I'm gonna get drunk there,
Speaker 4: so I figured best not the pre game otherwise. I
Speaker 4: I've never roller skated, I can ice skate, I can inline,
Speaker 4: never been on quads, and I'm I'm gonna bust my ass.
Speaker 5: At least, are you gonna wear those short short jeans?
Speaker 5: Those short jeans shorts I cut.
Speaker 4: I cut off a pair of Daisy Duke strictly for
Speaker 4: the occasion to highlight my lack of an ass.
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 5: Actually can't skate and I can't roller blade at all.
Speaker 2: I've know you're a terrible fucking Canadian.
Speaker 5: I fucking hate skating, I hate hockey. I am a
Speaker 5: bad Canadian. So let's just get into this. In the
Speaker 5: depths of Luckness, a monster of the ages lurks in
Speaker 5: the murky water with the long neck and powerful fins.
Speaker 5: All NeSSI manages to bring the mysteries of the past
Speaker 5: into the present, while not always visible to the public.
Speaker 5: You may get a lucky you may be a lucky one,
Speaker 5: and you might be able to see Lockness carefully move
Speaker 5: from shore to shore every now and again. Then NeSSI
Speaker 5: will perk her head up above the water and slipping
Speaker 5: beneath the murky water of Luckness.
Speaker 2: First, right off the bat, why the fuck you got
Speaker 2: a gender at Tom? How dare you?
Speaker 5: Jenners don't exist?
Speaker 2: Remember, let's make us all it's all subjective. It's all subjective, buddy.
Speaker 2: That's science, that's real science.
Speaker 5: So what is Lockness? Monster? Though there are many versions
Speaker 5: of the Lockness story, most tales will include some references
Speaker 5: to obviously a large dragon or dinosaur like creature it's
Speaker 5: fucking a reptilian that can be spotted in the waters
Speaker 5: of Lockness and sometimes in the surrounding land areas as well.
Speaker 5: Like there's weird stories where it's like walking across the street.
Speaker 5: We'll get into it's weird. However, most of these stories
Speaker 5: come to light after the nineteen thirties, and obviously we're
Speaker 5: indirectly connected to the Tail of NeSSI by believers who
Speaker 5: wanted to add obviously credibility to the story of the
Speaker 5: Lockness Monster. So obviously you have people like that are
Speaker 5: like they you know, it's it's in folklore, in history,
Speaker 5: and then people want to like, okay, is this real,
Speaker 5: and then they go out of their way to try
Speaker 5: to find it, just like those those goddamn bigfoot fuckers,
Speaker 5: those people that search for Bigfoot. Those guys are fucking
Speaker 5: we're their dad shorts and their fucking camera on their neck.
Speaker 4: The old Joe Rogan, Joe, you know what you don't
Speaker 4: find when you go looking for bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Black people?
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Lockness I've got all but on the Lockness.
Speaker 6: The location and things is in the Scottish Highlands and
Speaker 6: it's the biggest lake in the British Ales. It's twenty
Speaker 6: three males long, seven hundred and fifty feet deep. That's
Speaker 6: pretty as the North Sea.
Speaker 5: That's pretty yeah, can you like go swimming in there?
Speaker 5: It's like a lake, right, so do people go swimming
Speaker 5: in like? That would be kind of fun. Actually, you know,
Speaker 5: you feel your balls being tickled, but or like maybe
Speaker 5: you can maybe I don't know, if it's like a
Speaker 5: dinosaur type creature, it would be kind of cool if
Speaker 5: you could, Like he Lockness comes out of the water
Speaker 5: and you can sit on her head or fucking.
Speaker 2: It as a monster fetish. If you can't tell.
Speaker 5: I want to get fucked by a monster.
Speaker 4: There's a reason he's into reptilians, Like reptilians your fucking name.
Speaker 4: He has this secret reptilian fetish where he's like always
Speaker 4: hoping that his fiance one day while they're you know,
Speaker 4: in the throes of it, is gonna just rip off
Speaker 4: her face.
Speaker 2: I knew it, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean man talking about Bigfoot being thick. I think
Speaker 5: that one wants that's too cute. Yeah, I think one
Speaker 5: wants that bigfoot booty. So the story of Lockness begins
Speaker 5: with water bailiff. What a fuck is a water bailiff?
Speaker 5: It's like, make sure in this water stays calm.
Speaker 2: This water is in contempt, bailiff, take it away.
Speaker 5: It's actually really funny. Alex Campbell on May second, nineteen
Speaker 5: thirty three. Uh, he identified the possibility of a monster
Speaker 5: in the Locke while writing in the invern Uh, not
Speaker 5: gonna put the Inverness career? Is that right, Inverness Courier?
Speaker 5: Am I saying that right? I don't want to fucking
Speaker 5: butcher everything as a.
Speaker 2: Part for a change.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where's my cringe button?
Speaker 2: Cringe?
Speaker 5: Fuck God, so far away, so many fucking goddamn.
Speaker 7: Cringey ass bitch.
Speaker 4: It's even more cringey when you can't find it as
Speaker 4: a part time journalist.
Speaker 5: Obviously. In the original setting of Ness Whoever was reported
Speaker 5: on August fourth in nineteen thirty three by George Spicer
Speaker 5: and his wife. According to this report, George and his
Speaker 5: wife were driving on the road near Lockness when they
Speaker 5: saw a creature that looked similar to a dragon and
Speaker 5: which he assumed had have at least of obviously a
Speaker 5: few prehistoric ties, and the report, he stated that the
Speaker 5: creature was simply waddling across the road. That's what I
Speaker 5: was saying with an animal in its mouth, and it's
Speaker 5: just like, it'd be funny if this guy's.
Speaker 2: Like a dragon, I need to say it.
Speaker 5: He likes got armor and chain me on his fucking
Speaker 5: back of his.
Speaker 4: Car just gets out whistles and a horse comes out of.
Speaker 2: Nowhere in full armor, just like, what the fuck? Listen?
Speaker 4: If the monster didn't bend down and asked her about
Speaker 4: tree Fitty, then it wasn't a lockhoss monster.
Speaker 5: I just watched that and I was like laughing up,
Speaker 5: cracking up.
Speaker 7: Oh that.
Speaker 4: I realize that that girl Scout was about seven stories
Speaker 4: dull and a crustacean from the patal liptic era.
Speaker 2: And I said, God, damn you monster. We worked for
Speaker 2: our money in this house we had given away. No
Speaker 2: goddamn fit it.
Speaker 5: South Park. You guys watched south Park there, kid? Do
Speaker 5: you guys watch south Park in Scotland.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: The wife vice from California, so she's got me into
Speaker 6: all these adult cartoons FS for family in south Park and.
Speaker 5: That's fun mans. Her family is fucking hilarious too.
Speaker 7: That's amazing. I love it.
Speaker 5: After George reported report was filed with the Career, the
Speaker 5: news publication began receiving more and more anonymous letters claiming
Speaker 5: to have seen either the same monster themselves or not
Speaker 5: a person that has seen said monster. Some of these
Speaker 5: letters even contained family legends that have supposedly been passed
Speaker 5: down and mentioned by like I mentioned a similar monster
Speaker 5: at least once. The media, of course, had a field
Speaker 5: day deciding on an appropriate name for the creature, like
Speaker 5: what what kind of names would you think that they
Speaker 5: should call this monster?
Speaker 6: Ian They came out with the monster fish, sea serpent,
Speaker 6: or dragging, and then they finally settled on lockedness monster,
Speaker 6: and since the nineteen fourties, the creature has been affectionately
Speaker 6: called NeSSI on.
Speaker 5: Old NeSSI do you hear a lot of people talking
Speaker 5: about this or like, you know, you ever talked to
Speaker 5: you an old fisherman down by the bay and he's like,
Speaker 5: so I saw monster wants.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean again, it's everyone knows about Nessy.
Speaker 7: It's everybody.
Speaker 6: If you go into a store and you're gonna buy
Speaker 6: some short bread or some Scottish you know, yeah, there's
Speaker 6: gonna be a picture on Nessie wearing the Scottish hot
Speaker 6: with ginger hair. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure it's such a tourist marketing where they
Speaker 5: like you know sell you a kilt, but it's got
Speaker 5: locknest monster's fucking head on it and ship like that.
Speaker 5: Do you wear kilt often or how often do you
Speaker 5: wear killed?
Speaker 7: Just for weddings? Are really expensive? I do you want
Speaker 7: to own my own one? One day?
Speaker 2: They're Scottish.
Speaker 5: You don't have a fucking kilper my My girlfriend's fucking
Speaker 5: sister's husband owns one because like her stepdad Scottish. Chelsea
Speaker 5: stepdad is like full blown Scottish.
Speaker 2: So it's a so I I have a kinship to
Speaker 2: the people. Nice I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask Jimmy about lockness. I'm like, you, have
Speaker 5: you seen the monster Jimmy when you were a child
Speaker 5: poor in fucking Scotland?
Speaker 2: Tom says kinship. We all know he just likes to
Speaker 2: walk around get an air on his balls.
Speaker 5: It's true, you know it must be comfortable. I look
Speaker 5: really weird in Canada wearing a fucking literally wearing a
Speaker 5: kill everywhere I go. But man, it probably seems pretty
Speaker 5: nice like to put it on your balls.
Speaker 4: I've only ever owned one of the hot topic Utila kilts,
Speaker 4: but I would definitely not wear anything under it.
Speaker 2: And it was very, very comfortable.
Speaker 5: So the Lockness monster changes Scotland.
Speaker 6: Do you guys, you guys, did you ever do about
Speaker 6: research and find out about the five six five a
Speaker 6: d sighting.
Speaker 7: Or you know where it goes to.
Speaker 5: Oh I have a little bit on that, but not
Speaker 5: only that far back. I think I start with Colombo
Speaker 5: or whatever the fuck his name is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it. That's it, Columbus.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, so we'll get into that in a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 5: not that guy. It's a Columba. Columba saw the news
Speaker 5: of the new cryptid spread quickly and raised many questions,
Speaker 5: lamely where did it come from? You know, obviously in
Speaker 5: are there you know, creatures like this in history that
Speaker 5: I've been overlooked? And there also needs to be proof
Speaker 5: that you know, drove tourists, encryptid hunters alike two Lockness
Speaker 5: and search maybe in a chance to find concrete evidence
Speaker 5: of its existence. You know, we see this with Bigfoot,
Speaker 5: not this, Like I think Bigfoot Lockness are really the
Speaker 5: two main cryptids that people really go after and search for,
Speaker 5: especially like Bigfoot. The Lockness too, are I think the
Speaker 5: top ranking cryptids, very at the top. And then I
Speaker 5: feel like, you know, you kind of like, I don't
Speaker 5: think anyone's really looking for Mothman. I don't think that's
Speaker 5: a good idea.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean technically, if you find Mothman, you don't
Speaker 4: want to find him.
Speaker 2: The harbinger of fucking doom.
Speaker 4: It doesn't look as adorable as this pretends that it does.
Speaker 5: There's one guy from uh fucking Arkansas that just wants
Speaker 5: to find a lovelnd frogman, so we could fuck it.
Speaker 5: I got my weed pen. We'll see if I hit
Speaker 5: this while we would doing this.
Speaker 4: If he goes silent for twenty minutes, we know that
Speaker 4: he's so many changes remade.
Speaker 5: But the injured duction of the Lachanness Monster, the Inverness
Speaker 5: suddenly became a place of an intrigue and wondered with
Speaker 5: many possibilities. Obviously have this community representing themselves seemingly overnight.
Speaker 5: Now we have this big thing of lockness. It spreads everywhere.
Speaker 5: This proved to be even more true when the first
Speaker 5: photograph of the monster, taken by Hugh Gray was published
Speaker 5: on December sixth, nineteen thirty three, concrete evidence that the monster,
Speaker 5: you know, like the monster maybe was a real thing.
Speaker 5: And Scotland they even the Secretary of state ordered the
Speaker 5: police to even prevent anyone from attacking or harming this creature.
Speaker 5: It's just pretty interesting, like, you know, you can't fuck
Speaker 5: with this creature.
Speaker 4: Well, I believe it was up in your neck of
Speaker 4: the Was that somebody just attempted to have legislation pass
Speaker 4: to protect Bigfoot?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking didn't it go through.
Speaker 4: I could have sworn something went through where they're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: do you find a big foot?
Speaker 2: You were not allowed to shoot it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's pretty much the case. Yeah, you cannot you
Speaker 5: can arm bigfoot. This is the This is only added
Speaker 5: to the growing curiosity obviously that the of the public.
Speaker 5: After all, if the country of Scotland was willing to
Speaker 5: write legislation to protect the creature, it must exist, right
Speaker 5: Obviously the investigation is the history of the creatures. Creature
Speaker 5: was launched and it was hypothesized that the creature was
Speaker 5: so large it wouldn't been able to escape history unnoticed,
Speaker 5: and obviously it might be a whole hoax. But let's
Speaker 5: get into all the history behind uh Lockness and the
Speaker 5: different sightings and all that stuff, you guys.
Speaker 4: And doesn't doesn't Lockness connect to the sea? Is there
Speaker 4: actual connectual? Is there not because I've heard conflicting story.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's the same as me. I heard a
Speaker 6: couple of when I was doing my research. I had
Speaker 6: a couple of comments to the the Caledonia Canal which
Speaker 6: is the opening to the Law, and how there's no
Speaker 6: way a big creature could fit through it. But then
Speaker 6: when you hear things about the depths of the Law,
Speaker 6: which is seven hundred and fifty feet deep, which is
Speaker 6: double the size of not couldn't it just go down
Speaker 6: and go to the seabed and come up in the
Speaker 6: loch like to be I could ges stupid Coleman, But
Speaker 6: that's how I think. Like just because there's a gap
Speaker 6: doesn't mean to say a con swim down and underneath it.
Speaker 5: You know, well, it is true because there is cave
Speaker 5: systems too and stuff underneath, like like you know, who
Speaker 5: knows if there's like this giant, gaping open hole that
Speaker 5: it has to fuck.
Speaker 4: Well, I would assume like with most places that are
Speaker 4: like with the Great Legs stuff out here too, like
Speaker 4: it's not entirely mapped, Like I'm sure that there's probably
Speaker 4: like areas that they don't know shit about or I mean,
Speaker 4: I could be wrong on that but and if that's
Speaker 4: the case, then then you have an unknown and then
Speaker 4: any number of things you could you know, obviously we're
Speaker 4: all just waxing, you know, hypothetically here, but you could
Speaker 4: fill in any number of gaps with that if you
Speaker 4: want it to, Like it can go down here, or
Speaker 4: it can go through you know, these channels here that
Speaker 4: we don't know about, or the cave system. So what
Speaker 4: were you saying though about, Like there was a segment
Speaker 4: that went back to the fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 5: We're gonna get into that with Saint Colombo. I think
Speaker 5: is that that's kind of what we're talking about, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, five six five AD. I mean, I think they've
Speaker 6: just made a connection here. I don't know if it's
Speaker 6: I mean, because they don't talk about it. If you're
Speaker 6: going to get onto that that we can we can.
Speaker 5: Rely onto it right now. So like obviously, when the
Speaker 5: historical investigation in the possibility of this beast began, it
Speaker 5: was found that the earlier the earliest reference to NeSSI
Speaker 5: may day back to the sixth sixth century a d.
Speaker 5: Which is pretty crazy. Well, obviously you have things like
Speaker 5: hieroglyphs and cave paintings and all that stuff. Like that
Speaker 5: that could connect to it too, because you know, like
Speaker 5: you just have some guy he sees something and he
Speaker 5: draws it and then it's like, well it's all you're
Speaker 5: fighting off in a dragon and it's just like stories
Speaker 5: they wrote.
Speaker 2: But it could be true, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: This club here, it says that it's written records, that
Speaker 6: they've managed to go back to five six five AD
Speaker 6: and see that there was written records of And this
Speaker 6: is part I was gonna.
Speaker 7: I know you guys all love this. But they say
Speaker 7: that it was a kelpie.
Speaker 6: This is kelpie folklore, yes, and that kelpie or water
Speaker 6: kelpie is a shape shifting spirit inhabiting the locks in
Speaker 6: the scott In Scottish folklore, it is usually described as
Speaker 6: a black horse like creature able to adopt human form.
Speaker 6: Some accounts state that the kelp retains its hoos well
Speaker 6: when appearing as a human, leading to the association with
Speaker 6: the Christian idea of sayting, as alluded to by Robbie Burns.
Speaker 7: Robert Burns, I'm sure you've heard of him, the famous
Speaker 7: Scottish poet.
Speaker 6: He had a poem called the Address to the Devil,
Speaker 6: and that is like kind of talking about the kelpie.
Speaker 6: But the in my own words, I heard a few
Speaker 6: accounts and it was saying that what the.
Speaker 7: Kelp does is shape shifts into like a horse, so.
Speaker 6: That if people go down and maybe entice to jump
Speaker 6: onto the horse's back, then they find that they are
Speaker 6: stuck to this kelpie and the kelpie then runs off
Speaker 6: into the water and comment, Yeah, So I when I
Speaker 6: hear things like this, I think it's almost like to
Speaker 6: warn children off from playing about the war and knights.
Speaker 6: Maybe I think those are the type of things that
Speaker 6: you would hear your I mean, it sounds dark if
Speaker 6: your if your parents are telling you stories about you're like, well,
Speaker 6: questioning your parents.
Speaker 7: But I hear stories.
Speaker 6: I got quite a lot, and I'm like, that's probably
Speaker 6: where they've grown arms and legs.
Speaker 7: You have time, there have been a little stories that
Speaker 7: you'll tell your kids.
Speaker 6: To keep them safe, and then they've grown arms and legs,
Speaker 6: and now we're looking at a kelpie.
Speaker 5: Or Yeah, I can't wait to be a father and
Speaker 5: be like, you know what, Jimmy, if you don't be careful,
Speaker 5: the fucking reptilians are gonna come eat you.
Speaker 4: None of them are nearly as bad as like most
Speaker 4: of the German folk tales. Oh that was a little
Speaker 4: boy who didn't teach all of his crowd. And then
Speaker 4: it's in the night the crowd fairy came and cut
Speaker 4: off his sons. Go to bed now, heinrich go to.
Speaker 5: Bed is true like Jesus Christ. So that's gonna Saint
Speaker 5: Columba the Irish monks. Saint Columbo's traveling with his followers
Speaker 5: when they happened to pass by the river nests seeing
Speaker 5: locals bearing a man. It's like his gaping wide asshole
Speaker 5: from being raped by NeSSI. I don't know why every
Speaker 5: time we're getting a crypted, it's always in the brain.
Speaker 5: He questioned them. He questioned them as to what happened.
Speaker 5: The man then explained the man had been swimming in
Speaker 5: the river when a water beast raped him, attacked him
Speaker 5: and drug him to the drug underneath the surface, which
Speaker 5: would be crazy. You have all the stories, right, even
Speaker 5: mermaids of like gluing men in and then they drown
Speaker 5: them to their watery death, right, kind of same folklore.
Speaker 5: You know, I just feel like NeSSI is probably a
Speaker 5: nice creature, you.
Speaker 4: Know, you know, you know my idea on mermaids man,
Speaker 4: it was just a bunch of dudes on a ship
Speaker 4: that got tired to blowing each other and they they
Speaker 4: saw a manite They're.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm gonna go fuck that.
Speaker 5: Or they're hallucinating on fucking who knows what kind of
Speaker 5: drugs they were taking back then.
Speaker 4: So that or they just got scurvy, so they're you know,
Speaker 4: they're they're baked from the sun, they're super dehydrated, and
Speaker 4: they've ben drinking rum for you know, six months straight,
Speaker 4: and it's like, yo, I can go fuck that.
Speaker 2: That that creature that is out there right now, it's
Speaker 2: like that's that's that's a man. That's he do don't
Speaker 2: don't do that. That's a man.
Speaker 4: Like it changed into a beautiful mermaid just like no,
Speaker 4: it didn't.
Speaker 5: Male pirates got married to each other's fun times. M
Speaker 5: h his friends nearby, Uh, his friends nearby rushed out
Speaker 5: to the boat to try and save him. By time
Speaker 5: they reached him in the water, he was dead. At
Speaker 5: this point, saying Columba had a devout follower swim across
Speaker 5: the river and attempt to luhere the monster half's fucking
Speaker 5: Michael Phelps halfway through the beast attempted to attack the follower,
Speaker 5: but Saint Columba made a sign of the cross and
Speaker 5: spoke the following words, go no far the do not
Speaker 5: touch the man, go back at once.
Speaker 4: Okay, he didn't even throw in the name of Genus
Speaker 4: Christo in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the own beast. It is weird that he like.
Speaker 5: They they halfway through the beast didn't attempt to attack his home.
Speaker 5: And then he's like, no, no, no, no, my fingers
Speaker 5: made into a cross. Will definitely make sure you don't
Speaker 5: get to tell.
Speaker 4: What was the Bill Hicks joke where he's like and yay,
Speaker 4: Jesus's disciples didn't see the bronosaurus and Jesus said, get out,
Speaker 4: here's a big brown cut.
Speaker 2: You're ruine of my story.
Speaker 7: That's true.
Speaker 5: So those who were watching claim that the creature drew
Speaker 5: back as it was pulled, pulled by chains or ropes,
Speaker 5: and retreated as if it was like kind of just
Speaker 5: like kutas what went backwards into the into the darkness
Speaker 5: of the lake. Everyone there took the event as a
Speaker 5: sign from God, and then the townspeople thank Saint Columba
Speaker 5: for his great service to them, and that's why it
Speaker 5: became a saint. Probably. There are some who claim the
Speaker 5: link between Saint Columba and Lochness monster is we get best.
Speaker 5: But additionally it is the point obviously to like it
Speaker 5: points out another Scottish monster, the Kelpie, is more likely
Speaker 5: maybe a candidate for the inspiration of the story.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The reason I was curious about that is because I
Speaker 4: was wondering if if because you know, like we have
Speaker 4: Champy out here in Lake Champlagne.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, it's like a fucking Disney character.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a Disney character, it really does, and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't I.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't be shocked to know if Disney is gonna make
Speaker 4: a fucking Champion movie.
Speaker 2: But yes, the same thing it's it's.
Speaker 4: Supposed to be, you know, a crustacean from the Baileyo
Speaker 4: live the era, but we have the thing that was
Speaker 4: eighteen nineteen. So I was wondering if it was just
Speaker 4: like if these things, you know, coroborated with one another,
Speaker 4: like the sightings started around the same time, or if
Speaker 4: they were a couple hundred years apart.
Speaker 2: But it sounds like.
Speaker 4: It's just something that's always been in the collective folklore
Speaker 4: of most people, especially people that are descended from you know, Europeans,
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so you you have you ardered it CHAMPI
Speaker 5: have you heard oga Poga? That's our lockness. It's a
Speaker 5: it's a Native monster. It's called Oga Poga. So we
Speaker 5: thought Champion was a ridiculous name. I can't make fun
Speaker 5: of Indigenous people or someone's gonna get mad about.
Speaker 2: Well shit, yeah, you always make fun of Indigenous people.
Speaker 2: I had lots of friends that were Native.
Speaker 4: Picture of my great grandfather. They're down off the wall again.
Speaker 4: If I need to give you your pass, it's a
Speaker 4: fucking joke. I have lots of Indigenous friends.
Speaker 5: I was just referring to the Shadow People episode where
Speaker 5: I real listened to reously and all we said was
Speaker 5: the guy was name, like who's his name? Gray, Gray
Speaker 5: Wolf or something like that. It just it was a
Speaker 5: fucking joke, people, Calm down.
Speaker 4: I just loved when we did our our monsters at
Speaker 4: the Western Door. How even though you and I essentially
Speaker 4: live in the same region, all be at two different countries,
Speaker 4: you have the hardest time pronouncing the name of indigenous
Speaker 4: sounding very true, very true.
Speaker 2: How do you not know how to say saka joia?
Speaker 2: You son of a bitch?
Speaker 7: The only one that's finging in my mind.
Speaker 6: I don't know. Is the Mexican one the White's gonna
Speaker 6: kill me for forgetting the name of the dog.
Speaker 2: The Cubicabra Cuba Cabra Camera.
Speaker 5: That's one one. That's the one version of the cryptid
Speaker 5: we all chose to be a crypted and one is
Speaker 5: the cup of Kabra because he's Puerto Rican, so it
Speaker 5: makes sense.
Speaker 4: I got the flatwood Monster, Tom got Mothman, Billy got
Speaker 4: Sasquad because Billy's a big goofy son of a bitch.
Speaker 5: Love you, Billy, but it's it's uh, it's it's skinny
Speaker 5: bigfoot it. We're gonna have probably two versions of that
Speaker 5: for all the fans.
Speaker 6: I have.
Speaker 5: We have two versions where Anton's buddy is creating words.
Speaker 5: It's what's that style again? It's like retro retro style.
Speaker 5: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: It's it's almost psychedelic style, but more flowery hippie bullshits
Speaker 4: and it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: And then we have a lot of.
Speaker 5: As a bunch of as our signatures too. That's coming
Speaker 5: out soon for all the fans. But then down the road,
Speaker 5: I have discussed if Billy like if if Izzy can
Speaker 5: do it because Izzy is a good artist. Billy's woman
Speaker 5: if she can do it, I said, Or we'll go
Speaker 5: to tront again for like the same logo kind of thing,
Speaker 5: but have us all full body cryptids. So we'll have
Speaker 5: two versions of it, which will be kind of cool,
Speaker 5: and then eventually maybe have us all as uh, fucking
Speaker 5: serial killers. Because I think that.
Speaker 2: I got that Mindcember, I'm gonna make Billy.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make Billy. No, I was like Ted Bunny
Speaker 5: would be. He would probably like that. Billy's either rich
Speaker 5: or AMers. I'm gonna make Hm Jeffrey.
Speaker 2: I want Carl actually fuck fuck bumble, but I want
Speaker 2: to be Pandram. Billy loves Richard of Whiskey Insnomy.
Speaker 5: All right, quickly before getting the next sighting, Ian, what's
Speaker 5: your favorite serial killer?
Speaker 6: Um, I would go with the doctor Shipman.
Speaker 2: Oh, Harold Shipman Yeah, Erald Shipman.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I guess he's.
Speaker 5: Just sneaky, sneaky man.
Speaker 2: That is sneaky.
Speaker 5: Sod Mackenzie sighting This is the most was in eighteen
Speaker 5: seventy one. In October eighteen seventy one, d mackenzie. His
Speaker 5: first name is Dick. I don't know that for a fact.
Speaker 2: Doug McKenzie, Yeah, mackenzie Brothers is one.
Speaker 5: Of the McKenzie brothers back in the day, and he
Speaker 5: fucking have you seen Strange brew Ian? What do you
Speaker 5: mean the movie straight? You've seen it?
Speaker 2: Right fucking good.
Speaker 5: I was like, I hope you have one of my
Speaker 5: favorite movies of all time coming out on the Patreon
Speaker 5: very soon on a rare review. But d McKenzie claimed
Speaker 5: that he's seen an object in Lockedness that he first
Speaker 5: assumed was a log or an upturned boat. However, as
Speaker 5: he continued to watch this mysterious object, it disappeared into
Speaker 5: the water with an alarming speed that could only be
Speaker 5: a living creature. Many believers like to point out that
Speaker 5: this report as proof that the monster does exist. Indeed,
Speaker 5: the problem with this narrative, however, is that mackenzie didn't
Speaker 5: file the report until nineteen thirty four, after the interest
Speaker 5: in the beast had already made been made prevalent. Because
Speaker 5: of this, many disregard his story as an attempt to
Speaker 5: be famous. He's like, I saw like twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: I swear the fucking got as.
Speaker 6: You have to remember as well, see when when after
Speaker 6: that nineteen thirty three Spicer thing I think news newspapers
Speaker 6: and also other places started giving rewards for any sightings
Speaker 6: or any thing.
Speaker 7: So then that's when you.
Speaker 5: Know he's fame to a place too. Like that's how
Speaker 5: you bring tours minute stuff like that is like kind
Speaker 5: of if you have like something that is so prevalent
Speaker 5: in your history, something like that, you're just like, you know,
Speaker 5: it brings in tourists for people like, oh cool, I
Speaker 5: want to go see this this historical location, you know,
Speaker 5: and it kind of brings like, let's say you get
Speaker 5: tourism in here. We don't really have any tourism. We
Speaker 5: just bring all the refugees here.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 4: Point Pleasant, West Virginia has been living high on the
Speaker 4: hog off the Mothman shit since since it started.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I would love to go to the Mothman
Speaker 5: fucking this festival. I would love to go if I
Speaker 5: can ever be let across my border.
Speaker 2: Fuck you Trudeau.
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to plan a Northeast Cryptian tour essentially,
Speaker 4: where we go we start up here and then we
Speaker 4: go down to the pine barrens in New Jersey and
Speaker 4: we go to Point Pleasant, then we go to flat
Speaker 4: Woods and.
Speaker 5: Aught the book up an entire week. But uh, the
Speaker 5: conservatives over here are really pushing for them to end
Speaker 5: the federal mandates because we can go to a hockey
Speaker 5: game with thousands of people, but no, I can't cross
Speaker 5: the border into the States or walk across the fucking
Speaker 5: Allys do with the Mexicans.
Speaker 2: Do I'll hop the boarder.
Speaker 4: I've been telling you to do that since this shit started,
Speaker 4: so we could fucking hang out.
Speaker 5: Man, So let's get in the Spicer. You know, the
Speaker 5: first sighting that was caught on camera, I think essentially
Speaker 5: is obviously the first sighting is alleged from George Spiser
Speaker 5: and his wife came face to face with the Locknest
Speaker 5: Monster while driving on a newly upgraded road that went
Speaker 5: by the lake on July twenty second, nineteen thirty three.
Speaker 5: The reports of the creature was published in the newspaper
Speaker 5: on August fourth of the same year. They described the
Speaker 5: beast maybe there's not the first photo, this is the
Speaker 5: first like sighting in modern times, I think like more
Speaker 5: modern times. They described the beast as being at least
Speaker 5: four feet high and twenty five feet long. It had
Speaker 5: a large wavy neck and at least as long as
Speaker 5: the road itself. So ten to twelve feet. They couldn't
Speaker 5: make out any limbs, but they washed a crawl across
Speaker 5: the road to the lock leaving crushed undergrowth in its wake.
Speaker 5: Many hypothesized that the Lockness Monster has been spotted earlier
Speaker 5: because the road wasn't often used by local art tourists.
Speaker 5: So this is the first time that someone in the
Speaker 5: public really like encountered the monster. Uh, it would be
Speaker 5: fairly scary, I think to see someone's walk a waddle
Speaker 5: across the road, You're like, what the fuck is that thing?
Speaker 6: Did also say that George Space on his wife for
Speaker 6: tripping big time on mushrooms that day.
Speaker 5: Oh man, my favorite. You have you've you have you've
Speaker 5: dabbled in psychedelics, have you or not yet?
Speaker 7: No? I am openly admitted to I'd love to try mushrooms.
Speaker 5: Right yeah, yeah, you're able to get him over there.
Speaker 5: Like I was talking to, uh, the dude from First
Speaker 5: Class Horror Aaron. I was joking how his name is
Speaker 5: Aaron and you're Ian and you're scott He's Irish and
Speaker 5: you're Scottish Ian Aaron, and he was talking about how
Speaker 5: he's actually dabbled in mushrooms. Stuff like that too. And
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, because it's more or less like
Speaker 5: becoming legal here now where like you can I can
Speaker 5: literally buy them offline, and b because it's decriminalized and
Speaker 5: they're trying to essentially legalize it because you can't die
Speaker 5: from mushrooms unless you jump off a building.
Speaker 4: Have you ever yet, again with the Bill Hicks joke,
Speaker 4: if you think you can fly, try taking off from
Speaker 4: the ground first. When do you see ducks lining up
Speaker 4: to take an elevator south for the winter?
Speaker 5: That's true, That's hilarious, like that bit, Tom.
Speaker 2: So have you ever had full blown hallucinations on mushrooms?
Speaker 2: Not yet?
Speaker 5: I haven't gotten that high.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just because it doesn't come unless you take a
Speaker 4: massive fucking quantity and you.
Speaker 2: Close your eyes.
Speaker 5: I know That's what I'm gonna start doing. Like my,
Speaker 5: I still have seven grams left, so my I've been
Speaker 5: doing like a gram or two. No, no, no, I'm
Speaker 5: thinking of doing like four and then like and then gonna.
Speaker 2: You're gonna go four.
Speaker 4: Take the Terrence McKenna heroic phoughst just take five, shut
Speaker 4: off all.
Speaker 2: The lights, close your eyes and go see God.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna confront myself I'm gonna beat
Speaker 5: myself up in my own head like you fucking egotistical bastard.
Speaker 4: You need you need Iahwasca to murder that even I know.
Speaker 5: So let's get into the Hugh Gray's photo. In nineteen
Speaker 5: thirty three, who Gray supposed to be, took a photo
Speaker 5: of Lockness Monster and was essentially and helping to make
Speaker 5: NeSSI one of the most popular cryptids in modern day.
Speaker 5: That's very true, he is, and this is the photo it.
Speaker 5: He claimed that it was taken on November twelfth, nineteen
Speaker 5: thirty three. There is issues with the image. From the start.
Speaker 5: It was a bit blurry, and many people noted that
Speaker 5: it almost looked like the head of a dog if
Speaker 5: you look closely. Yeah, it's it's man, where is the
Speaker 5: head of the dog? Someone has analyzed it in like
Speaker 5: kind of.
Speaker 6: I see it coming out of the war with a
Speaker 6: stick in its mouth, gave the big nose above the stack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you mentioned it is.
Speaker 5: It is strange and obviously it's it's you know, if
Speaker 5: you're on the YouTube, you can definitely see that this
Speaker 5: is a very blurry photo. You can't tell shit from
Speaker 5: what that thing is. And uh, this went a long
Speaker 5: way in crediting the image because it was known to
Speaker 5: be supposed to be a walking dog when he had
Speaker 5: taken the picture. They say it walking dog. There's people
Speaker 5: that have like analyzed the image and saying that's the
Speaker 5: way he shot the film. It was like it's dog
Speaker 5: on land. But it does look like it could be
Speaker 5: a dog swimming in the water, right, Like that's a possibility.
Speaker 4: That seems like the most reasonable, Like that could very
Speaker 4: well just be the Yeah, the dog in the water
Speaker 4: with just its head above and the stick.
Speaker 2: In his mouth. I could I could totally see that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I forgot. This is Saint Columba be gone nessy.
Speaker 4: So funny you always do you think that was just
Speaker 4: another weird way of them saying that they they drove
Speaker 4: you know, the pagans out. Yeah, that could any way
Speaker 4: with Saint Patrick and the snakes and what have you.
Speaker 2: He looks like he's a devil for a little bit.
Speaker 4: He looks a Roman salute you goober. But he's weren't
Speaker 4: around yet, just like I'm gonna make this big, remember
Speaker 4: it would be, and he did. He did look at
Speaker 4: the Buddhist symbol for the swastika. The swastika is literally
Speaker 4: like a symbol of like peace and love and shit.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, he.
Speaker 4: Didn't invent it, like a true artist. He's like, I
Speaker 4: like that, that's reverse.
Speaker 2: It's kind now I tilted it. I tilted it selty degrees.
Speaker 2: It's mine now I made that pure. It's come from me,
Speaker 2: from my mind because I'm smart.
Speaker 6: Smart, I totally see where you're going with there, because
Speaker 6: I noticed on myself a lot of these things are
Speaker 6: like metaphorical. I see the Bible a lot of these
Speaker 6: stories like Noah and the Ark because the flood, there's
Speaker 6: like a metaphor for like COVID or World War two,
Speaker 6: you know, deppopulation, you know whatever.
Speaker 7: Like so when you it's a good that's a good observation.
Speaker 5: When I make when I make videos on TikTok about
Speaker 5: the government, a lot of religious people come out the
Speaker 5: woodwork and be like it doesn't matter. Jesus already won,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, but did he did he?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 5: I was like, just shown up yet and it's getting
Speaker 5: really fucking bad. And if you're religious, I got nothing
Speaker 5: against you. I just I just don't subscribe to any
Speaker 5: religion because I think it's a divide and conquer to
Speaker 5: old by them of the fucking people in power.
Speaker 4: It's my opinion the old the old line from the
Speaker 4: Devil makes three song. They say that Jesus coming must
Speaker 4: be walking.
Speaker 2: Sure he running.
Speaker 5: So Arthur Grant hits locked Has Monster. This is pretty
Speaker 5: fuck and one of the most curious sightings. Arthur Grant
Speaker 5: claimed to have literally ran into the lock Nest Monster
Speaker 5: on his motorcycle on January.
Speaker 2: You're gonna say, just punched it right in the face.
Speaker 2: Fuck you.
Speaker 5: Well throw out to another Cryptid episode because it's just
Speaker 5: weird that black eyed children are technically and that mentioned
Speaker 5: as like cryptid so to speak, change, aren't they.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're associated with like the changeling and the fairies
Speaker 4: and kind of.
Speaker 5: But this demons is a vampire maybe. And one story
Speaker 5: that me and Billy covered a kid punched black eyed
Speaker 5: kid in the face. He was like, get away from me.
Speaker 5: He fucking clucked this.
Speaker 4: I mean, technically, if you punch a kid in the face,
Speaker 4: they become a black eyed child.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so it's pretty funny. So he like this
Speaker 5: really weird is riding his motorcycle and it was about
Speaker 5: one am on a moonlit night, and Grant claimed to
Speaker 5: have seen the neck of the beast and when he
Speaker 5: when he asked to sketch and described this creature, said
Speaker 5: it was something like a cross between a seat and
Speaker 5: a pleasant soura.
Speaker 4: A pleasant say is this? Does this dude look like
Speaker 4: some fucking Fantastic four superhero with like a metal face?
Speaker 2: He does, I'm gonna run you down?
Speaker 5: And this, I'm pretty sure this is his sketch.
Speaker 4: I want that as a wood carving on my wall somewhere.
Speaker 4: That's fantastic.
Speaker 5: That is pretty fun. Just look up the Arthur Grint
Speaker 5: hits a hit some monster. You'll be able to see it.
Speaker 5: If you're an audio listener. We're just doing you know,
Speaker 5: and and yeah for the people on the audio, obviously,
Speaker 5: we know that people consume our content audiobly more often.
Speaker 5: But that's we look up these things. If we're mentioning
Speaker 5: the pictures, you can easily while you're just listening to
Speaker 5: on your phone or whatever, just look it up and
Speaker 5: you can kind of see what we're talking about. Because
Speaker 5: for the YouTube, we like to just add in a
Speaker 5: little snippets so people get a better idea of what
Speaker 5: these monsters are, weird things or serial killers look like
Speaker 5: and sound like.
Speaker 2: So who knows.
Speaker 5: He was so intrigued with the creature that he got
Speaker 5: off his bike to follow in the wa but not
Speaker 5: quick enough, only saw the ripples that were left by.
Speaker 2: It was like, hey, hey, come back, Hey hey, I
Speaker 2: want to be a friend. You need to exchange information.
Speaker 2: You hit my bike.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So have you ever have you ever heard of
Speaker 5: this tale? Is that one that like when you were
Speaker 5: looking at that was.
Speaker 7: One I didn't encounter.
Speaker 6: But then as I'm seeing the picture as well, it's
Speaker 6: kind of ringing bells. But the plesiosaur, I've got that
Speaker 6: written down, but I don't know which part of the
Speaker 6: which sighting it mentioned that. And but I don't know
Speaker 6: about you guys. I'm not a believer in dinosaurs at.
Speaker 2: All, and you're one of those man.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if you looked up pleasy.
Speaker 6: So that's just one tip I'll give you. I've got
Speaker 6: the up on my phone etomology, and I bet if
Speaker 6: you typed in plesio or even plesio, so it'll come up.
Speaker 7: With something that will be kind of They do that
Speaker 7: a lot.
Speaker 2: So let me get in.
Speaker 5: Let me get into something for real quickly. When I
Speaker 5: was me and my buddy Chance working in a restaurant.
Speaker 5: We had chili fest. Right, we're done by three, we drank.
Speaker 5: This is a bad story because we end up. He
Speaker 5: ended up driving drunk home. Chelsea didn't know where I was.
Speaker 5: I was in responsive because we were having so much fun.
Speaker 2: We had to like, could have left that part up?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah it was it was years ago, but
Speaker 5: Chance was one hundred percent drunk. Don't know how I
Speaker 5: made it home. I was drunk and I could see
Speaker 5: him just swerve it on the road as we were
Speaker 5: fucking drived about twenty minutes, so it was very sketchy,
Speaker 5: but we were pretty drunken. And then Chances started talking
Speaker 5: to this older woman and then she started talking about
Speaker 5: how I don't know how we got into it, but
Speaker 5: she said how she hasn't believed in dinosaurs and that
Speaker 5: because it was made up and stuff like that to
Speaker 5: dismiss the word of God. And we proceeded to beraide
Speaker 5: this woman and be like, what the fuck are you
Speaker 5: talking about? Because I believe dinosaurs existed, and I believe
Speaker 5: maybe what took them out was the everything was in progression, right.
Speaker 5: I believe in the Reptilian conspiracy theory that it wasn't
Speaker 5: a meteorite, that maybe the reptilians used some sort of
Speaker 5: technology to wipe out the dinosaurs to further along the
Speaker 5: mammals evolutionary species, because if the dinosaurs were left where
Speaker 5: they were, they could have evolved into a humanoid creature.
Speaker 5: They have in the fucking Smithsonian that it could be
Speaker 5: a possibility. That's why they could exist on another planet.
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah. Tail for another episode. But I believe
Speaker 5: that they may have rearranged the bones wrong. That's my belief.
Speaker 5: I believe they existed, but I believe they might not
Speaker 5: look the way that they've shown us and set them up.
Speaker 5: Why do you believe that dinosaurs don't exist when we
Speaker 5: have actual evidence that they did.
Speaker 6: Again, it's it's not something i'm farm on or I've
Speaker 6: done much research into, So don't take it.
Speaker 7: You know, you'll probably know more than me.
Speaker 6: But from the little pieces of information that I've picked
Speaker 6: up over the years, to me, it's a dinosaur. I
Speaker 6: was created, and is it the eighteen hundreds and all
Speaker 6: these bones that get traveled around the world are not real.
Speaker 6: They're actually three D printed or they're made up of
Speaker 6: like chicken bone. And if you look back at the
Speaker 6: very first ever dinosaur, it's called something hilarious. It's like
Speaker 6: it's called the word cock or it's a word.
Speaker 5: For because it probably look like a bird.
Speaker 2: What do you think to me?
Speaker 6: That's a free Masonic thing as well? Everything of roles
Speaker 6: are on the fallst like the statues that they I mean,
Speaker 6: that's that's all the way back to the secret schools.
Speaker 4: If we're going into the I means definitely stole a
Speaker 4: good chunk of their ship from you know, Greek and Egyptian.
Speaker 2: Mythology as well. And do you believe in dinosaurated? Do
Speaker 2: I believe? I?
Speaker 4: Look, I don't necessarily believe in anything, as you well know.
Speaker 4: I definitely see the controversy surrounding it, with the bone
Speaker 4: wars and everything that went on with that, and the
Speaker 4: fact that we've allegedly never found a complete skeleton of
Speaker 4: anything ever together.
Speaker 2: So I would say there's definitely some hokey ship there.
Speaker 2: But do you believe it?
Speaker 5: Right now?
Speaker 7: I like to.
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking touched.
Speaker 4: Have to have some sort of safe face in this
Speaker 4: community if I.
Speaker 2: Ever hope to get laid again. So just totally derailed me,
Speaker 2: you piece of shit.
Speaker 4: No, I I think it's probable that there are. I
Speaker 4: think we've found enough shit to be like, okay, this
Speaker 4: is this is interesting, and there are definitely the bones
Speaker 4: that are passed around are not the actual bones.
Speaker 2: But from my.
Speaker 4: Understanding of that, the reason that is is because they're
Speaker 4: not actually as hard as everyone says they are.
Speaker 2: And then we have them all locked up somewhere and
Speaker 2: what have you.
Speaker 4: But I think a lot of our questions would be
Speaker 4: answered if we all just fuck storming Area fifty one.
Speaker 4: Let's storm the fucking Vatican. Let's get into that basement
Speaker 4: and find that shit, because.
Speaker 2: We'll have a lot of questions. There's so much they wear.
Speaker 4: A good chunk of the lost books from the Library
Speaker 4: of Alexandria are there. Yes, we're gonna find out the
Speaker 4: truth of the Knights Templar. I mean, yesterday was Frida
Speaker 4: of the thirteenth, So we'll.
Speaker 5: Eventually get into that because we've talked about the Knights
Speaker 5: Templar and stuff like that. But eventually I do want
Speaker 5: to get into the Vatican. It's going to be a
Speaker 5: lot of pedophile jokes, but that's just the way who goes.
Speaker 5: But no, I just there is a lot of hidden shit,
Speaker 5: and who knows what we're actually being told is correct.
Speaker 5: But I think the Reptilians wiped out the fucking their dinosaur,
Speaker 5: I guess because they would being connected to them so
Speaker 5: that we could evolve and they can enslave us.
Speaker 4: I think it was Atlantis, And I think when whatever
Speaker 4: reactor that Atlantis was running wilf and destroyed the fucking place,
Speaker 4: that's what wiped out life pretty much everywhere else.
Speaker 5: Sun Ben hypothesis. So the infamous surgeons photograph in nineteen
Speaker 5: thirty four, perhaps the most famous of all Locknest's monster photographs,
Speaker 5: is the one that everyone has seen where it's the
Speaker 5: lockness poking its head of the water. The most infamous
Speaker 5: photo of all time, and it was taken in nineteen
Speaker 5: thirty four by Robert Kenneth Wilson and was published in
Speaker 5: The Daily Mail on April twenty first, nineteen thirty four.
Speaker 5: Wilson did not have his own name associated with the photo,
Speaker 5: which led to the image being associated with profession with
Speaker 5: his profession instead. May It quickly caught on as the
Speaker 5: Surgeon's photograph. However, he was on His unwillingness to be
Speaker 5: associated with the image also led to much speculation that
Speaker 5: was later proven to be true.
Speaker 4: Supposedly, you think this was just a bored dude with
Speaker 4: PTSD from World War One that has seen some horrible
Speaker 4: shit and had to do a whole bunch of field
Speaker 4: surgery and was just like, I'm gonna go make everyone
Speaker 4: think that there's a fucking dinosaur and that's really fun
Speaker 4: with him because I don't know what to do with myself.
Speaker 5: Well, as they say, at first glance, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: the image seems to be legit.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: The crop virgin, which was printed in the newspaper, made
Speaker 5: the monster seem enormous and the ripples in the water
Speaker 5: appear to be large waves. However, when uncropped the image
Speaker 5: with the uncropped image was study of years later, there
Speaker 5: was there were details that didn't seem to add up. Eventually,
Speaker 5: the picture was deemed as a hoax, a scheme cooked
Speaker 5: up by by Christian Splurring Christian Splurring and his friends
Speaker 5: as revenge against the Daily Mail, who happened to be
Speaker 5: his employer.
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty weird.
Speaker 6: It looks a little like the guy that does the
Speaker 6: sprinkling of the Sultan paper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it does.
Speaker 5: Actually, that's actually really fun.
Speaker 4: Somebody needs to make a meme of that of the
Speaker 4: loch ness Monster doing the salt may just like I'm
Speaker 4: sure just salt in his dinner.
Speaker 5: And so it's funny. Spurling has reportedly reported to find
Speaker 5: Nassy's footprints that were later deemed as faked. So he
Speaker 5: and his friends crafted a toy model that could be
Speaker 5: used to simulate NeSSI and then took pictures. It just man,
Speaker 5: it's the most famous photo. But man, it does look
Speaker 5: very shady like. It doesn't. It doesn't really, It looks tiny.
Speaker 5: I know it's supposed to be in this massive body
Speaker 5: of water, but it looks like a toy, just something
Speaker 5: floating in the water. I would love to believe this,
Speaker 5: but I don't know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've got a bit more todd than that.
Speaker 6: Duke Weatherall he was hired by the Daily Mail in
Speaker 6: the nineteenth thirties to investigate and he found what he
Speaker 6: thought was the Nessi's footprint, and it was later to
Speaker 6: be found that it was actually a hippopotamus's footprint, so.
Speaker 7: He was very embodied. It was zoologist obviously.
Speaker 6: Said no, that's a hippopotamus, and it was it was debunked,
Speaker 6: and he was very embodied. Away with his tail between
Speaker 6: his legs, and his sons were involved in that foot
Speaker 6: that you've just popped. They are the surgeon's full His
Speaker 6: sons and him along with the surgeon, conspired to build
Speaker 6: the model. They put it in the water, and they
Speaker 6: got the surgeon to take the photo or that guy
Speaker 6: was it starling you said? Someone else took the photo
Speaker 6: and then he published it. But the reason why they
Speaker 6: contacted the surgeon is because the surgeon was very well
Speaker 6: known for he liked to do pranks.
Speaker 2: He liked to do.
Speaker 6: Things like that, so that's probably why he didn't want
Speaker 6: his name on the picture.
Speaker 2: Hip hop anonymous sense is.
Speaker 4: That the one where they took me, they had like
Speaker 4: a taxi dermied ash tray that was a hippo's foot
Speaker 4: and they used.
Speaker 2: That to make the footprints or what have you.
Speaker 6: I'm not too sure that one was one of the videos.
Speaker 4: That I watch where they were talking about the surgeon
Speaker 4: footage and they basically just made like a little toy
Speaker 4: submarine on the rope with the nasty thing, like what
Speaker 4: about the ribbles? He just picks up a stone. He's like, there,
Speaker 4: you go take a picture.
Speaker 5: So on May twenty ninth, nineteen thirty eight tourists named
Speaker 5: name of G. E. Taylor took a film of what
Speaker 5: he believed to be Luckness Monster film Lucknoss Monster. The
Speaker 5: film was in color. It had three minutes of recorded
Speaker 5: footage on a six millimeter film. The film was sold
Speaker 5: to Maurice Barton, a popular science writer, and was shared
Speaker 5: with other researchers. The film was largely forgotten until nineteen
Speaker 5: sixty one, when Burton published a single frame from this
Speaker 5: from the footage from in the book His book and
Speaker 5: Burton claimed the film was a floating object, not an animal. However,
Speaker 5: since the original footage had been never been released to
Speaker 5: the public, it's unlikely we'll ever know for sure. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I couldn't find supposed to be This may be it
Speaker 5: one of the film the film footage that he got,
Speaker 5: but we don't really know for sure.
Speaker 2: Isn't that bullskin off to the right, Yes? Wait is it?
Speaker 4: I thought that was at least part of bullsk because
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: Bullskin's right on the lock ball skin. Why is it bullskin?
Speaker 2: Because it's Crowley. Of course, it's something to do with balls,
Speaker 2: fucking Crowley.
Speaker 5: So I have the promising sonar readings and this is
Speaker 5: in December nineteen fifty four. Is that the one that
Speaker 5: you have ian the nineteen fifty four one.
Speaker 7: I think so it could be too say yeah.
Speaker 5: No no, if well yeah, if you want to get
Speaker 5: into this is very short, but essentially December nineteen fifty four,
Speaker 5: the crew of the Rival three took sonar readings that
Speaker 5: found a large object keeping pace with their boat from
Speaker 5: a depth of nearly five hundred feet and it was
Speaker 5: detected for eight hundred meters before the contact of the
Speaker 5: object was lost. Though this was never proven to be
Speaker 5: Lockness Monster, it's supposed to be a valuable piece of
Speaker 5: evidence that has come to light.
Speaker 6: No, the sonar ones off is in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 5: Okay, so yeah, we're getting We're getting up to the
Speaker 5: nineteen seventies very soon. We're now in the sixties. And
Speaker 5: the nineteen sixties, Tim Disdale filmed a hump in the
Speaker 5: Lochness that was a large wake behind it. The Disdale
Speaker 5: was an aeronautical aeronautical engineer. Is that is that whether
Speaker 5: you fucking dive down into the water and go for
Speaker 5: a swim.
Speaker 2: The Disdale from Doug Dimmidale to.
Speaker 5: Madelondale engineer or poorly taken footage on his last day
Speaker 5: of searching for an sc He said the object appeared
Speaker 5: to be reddish in color with blotches on its side,
Speaker 5: and produced fifty foot fifty forty feet of film that
Speaker 5: he claimed could prove the existence of Lockness Monster. Ever,
Speaker 5: when the image was enhanced, enhanced, enhanced, it could be
Speaker 5: seen as maybe it was a hump of a boat.
Speaker 5: So obviously this was dismissed until nineteen ninety three when
Speaker 5: Discovery Communications decided to make a documentary about the Lockness Monster,
Speaker 5: and while enhancing the Disdale film to use in part
Speaker 5: of their production, somehow knows a strange shadow in the
Speaker 5: negative that could be clearly seen in the film, So
Speaker 5: who knows. When the team enhanced and overlay the image
Speaker 5: to study the shadow, they discover what appeared to be
Speaker 5: black half of a creature under the water. Strange.
Speaker 4: So, staying in the nineteen sixties and staying on the
Speaker 4: topic of film, I know we briefly touched on it before,
Speaker 4: and I'll bring my screen up. So there was a
Speaker 4: there was a model made for a nineteen sixty nine
Speaker 4: Sherlock home movie starring Robert Stevens and Christopher Lee. That's
Speaker 4: sunk in the lock and uh and some years later
Speaker 4: somebody ran a radar through the water and we're like,
Speaker 4: we found the corpse of NeSSI. We found we found
Speaker 4: a dead one. And I'll do my screenshats. You guys
Speaker 4: can see these images.
Speaker 5: That's a lot that's Nessy.
Speaker 4: So this is the underwater robot detected survey.
Speaker 2: So then there's the body and then there's the head.
Speaker 2: If you go up you'll see that was.
Speaker 4: An image from the movie.
Speaker 2: He was a Sherlock home of one and yeah. So
Speaker 2: they found what.
Speaker 4: They thought was, you know, a Nessy carcass, and there's
Speaker 4: another another scan of it, and then they realized they're like, nope,
Speaker 4: it's just this prop that's sunk in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 5: Oh is that thing about Claus Schwab where financial plan
Speaker 5: from Schwab.
Speaker 2: Oh No, it's not.
Speaker 4: Charles Schwab, which I always wonder if that's connected to
Speaker 4: Klaus Schwab, the Charles Schwab in finance institution or whatever.
Speaker 5: Probably it's like that's my son.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then here's here's another computer generated.
Speaker 2: Image and what have you. I don't know about that one.
Speaker 5: Who's that old?
Speaker 2: Fuck?
Speaker 5: The strange case of Luck. Christopher Lee, Oh yeah it is.
Speaker 2: Christopher Lee was a bad motherfucker too. I'd lovely an
Speaker 2: episode on him for famous Ed.
Speaker 5: We could do that because he was a vampire. No,
Speaker 5: Christopher Lee was was a Nazi hunter. Here's a vampire too,
Speaker 5: so he.
Speaker 2: Was Dracula in the Hammer films.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Hammer, all right, It's fucking all right.
Speaker 2: So Tom's way of saying he loves Giant.
Speaker 5: The Honey Games were so much misleading and unreliable evidence.
Speaker 5: Scripted hunters and fans of NeSSI took to Luck and
Speaker 5: several attempts to prove the existence of the creature once
Speaker 5: and for all, although there has never been enough evidence
Speaker 5: for any of these expeditions to prove the existence of NeSSI.
Speaker 5: Uh maybe who knows, but they keep searching. If you're
Speaker 5: in England, you'll find out that Scotland may have had uh,
Speaker 5: they know they had. The monster will bring them fame
Speaker 5: and power. So England's like, oh you know what, Like,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get on this money and tourism attraction. So
Speaker 5: what should you do? According to the newly uncovered documents,
Speaker 5: you put bounty on the monster to be delivered dead
Speaker 5: or alive. To the London's Natural History Museum, so they
Speaker 5: literally put a hit on Nessi's head.
Speaker 6: Ye.
Speaker 5: David Clark, author of Britain's Extraordinary Files with a Big X,
Speaker 5: uncovered documents detailing the sinister plot.
Speaker 2: In his research.
Speaker 5: It was evident in nineteen thirty four that the London
Speaker 5: and that had many MP's as well as prominent and
Speaker 5: powerful people such as naturalists Sir Peter Scott who believed
Speaker 5: Scott in the Lochness Monster and wanted it for England.
Speaker 5: And this, you know, this includes management of the Natural
Speaker 5: History History Museum. A letter from unnamed official gave these
Speaker 5: specific instructions to any English hunter or fisherman who might
Speaker 5: see NeSSI. Should you come across or ever see the
Speaker 5: mounst you hope I'm gonna butcher this. I hope you
Speaker 5: will never be deteriorated by the hue human human huge
Speaker 5: humanitarian considerations from shooting him or on spot or sending
Speaker 5: the caucus to us in the cold storage fucking my
Speaker 5: accent obviously, So if they don't, if you shoot it,
Speaker 5: whatever U short of it's this a flipper or jaw
Speaker 5: or tooth or would be very welcome. So they're saying
Speaker 5: if you're an English fuck and you see this thing.
Speaker 5: H if you shoot it, I want proof. Hell hath
Speaker 5: no fear like Scotland's gone. So when the Royal Scottish
Speaker 5: Museum caught wind of this plot, it was a letter
Speaker 5: was sent to the Secretary of State for Scotland, Sir
Speaker 5: Godfrey Collins, pledging to fight for the rights of Nessy.
Speaker 5: We think that the monster should not be allowed to Iam. Fuck.
Speaker 5: I'm not doing Scotish accent, sorry, but we we think
Speaker 5: that the monsters should not be allowed to find its
Speaker 5: last resting place in England. Such a fate would surely
Speaker 5: cause Scottish outrage. So that yeah, they they You know,
Speaker 5: it's kind of funny that the English wanted the monster
Speaker 5: and then and the Scottish were like, no, no, he's ours.
Speaker 5: The faunal resting place should be in Scotland. You should
Speaker 5: not fuck with NeSSI resting place should be here.
Speaker 4: I mean the English have been fucking murdering and stealing
Speaker 4: artifacts since the British Museum existed. Lest we forget everything
Speaker 4: that came out of Cairo in Egypt and ship So they.
Speaker 5: Shut off the nose of the fucking Sphinx because they
Speaker 5: thought I resemble a black man.
Speaker 2: I want to dum a bunch of dumb cunts. So
Speaker 2: have you heard about that? Have you heard about that?
Speaker 2: The English fuck over everyone? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, have you heard about that? You never heard about
Speaker 5: like them, like the English trying to essentially take NeSSI
Speaker 5: and hunt for him or her.
Speaker 7: I've never never heard of that.
Speaker 6: But even in my research, and I didn't come across
Speaker 6: what years was that the sixties?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like when they it came kind of out,
Speaker 5: but supposed to be in the thirties is when the
Speaker 5: when they got wind of Lockness that the English were like,
Speaker 5: you know what, we're gonna We're we're gonna take that too.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: All I can picture is the Hunter from Jumanji being
Speaker 4: the person I.
Speaker 2: Know it's I'm going to get that NeSSI generlive.
Speaker 5: So in nineteen sixty seven, D. Gordon Tucker volunteered his
Speaker 5: services as a sonar developer as a part of a
Speaker 5: larger movement that was being conducted by the l NPIB.
Speaker 5: He fixed a large sonar transducer under the water and
Speaker 5: hopes to finding proof of Locknest Monster. During a two
Speaker 5: week trial, several targets were identified. At least one has
Speaker 5: been discredited as a large shoal or fish shoal of fish?
Speaker 5: Is that like a big group of fish? School it
Speaker 5: says it's.
Speaker 2: S h o a lal of fish?
Speaker 5: Interesting?
Speaker 4: But other move that's speed just another word for school
Speaker 4: of fish? Is that just like a large group of fish?
Speaker 4: Or is it different.
Speaker 7: Scottish word for it? Our own words for pretty much everything?
Speaker 2: Fair enough?
Speaker 5: The others moved at the speeds about the ten knots
Speaker 5: and did not appear to be any fish or any
Speaker 5: other a quatic life form in the area.
Speaker 2: Strange string. I wonder where that fish did go.
Speaker 5: So if you want to get into the the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 6: Well that stuff leads into it's the same as an
Speaker 6: organization called aas Design sonar and camera technology that would
Speaker 6: alert them and a picture anything passing through the beams.
Speaker 6: And in nineteen seventy two, two years later, a large
Speaker 6: ink block showed up on these echo trace printers, which
Speaker 6: were then taken and analyzed. And the pictures are quite crazy.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you have them to show the people,
Speaker 6: but this is one of the ones where I saw
Speaker 6: And then I'll go into further where they were kind
Speaker 6: of debunked but where they say that these pictures from
Speaker 6: your zoom in and you touch them up and whatever
Speaker 6: they do, they look like the head of a gargoyle
Speaker 6: and then the long fin the fin. And then it
Speaker 6: was later found in nineteen seventy five that the it
Speaker 6: was actually no, I'm telling a lie there. I think
Speaker 6: it's way up until the nineties that they finally found
Speaker 6: it was a tree trunk that just fell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard about that too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but the head, it does look like a goggle ahead.
Speaker 5: Goggles are also a symbol of the reptilians watching over us.
Speaker 7: Yeah makes sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, that's where there's a lot of weird
Speaker 5: sonar shit. And I have I have one more thing
Speaker 5: about an Operation Deep Scan. So if you guys have
Speaker 5: anything else, to mention it, because then we're going to
Speaker 5: talk about maybe the origins and what NeSSI could be
Speaker 5: to bring it to a close, so to speak. So
Speaker 5: if you guys have anything, bring it up, talk about it.
Speaker 5: So Operation Deep Scan in nineteen eighty seven. In nineteen
Speaker 5: eighty seven, I cut out some stuff like there is
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff of people searching for them, like
Speaker 5: now you know, in the early two thousands and nineties, like,
Speaker 5: there's a lot there's people been hunting this thing as
Speaker 5: long as you know, longer than they've been hunting big Foot,
Speaker 5: way longer than Bigfoot in my opinion. So like this
Speaker 5: is one of the like I think the number one
Speaker 5: cryptid when it comes to the most famous cryptid. So
Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty seven, twenty four boats were equipped with
Speaker 5: echo sounder equipment and use part of Operation Deep Scan,
Speaker 5: a mission to find NeSSI. The results found a large
Speaker 5: mass at the bottom of the lock. Many wrote off
Speaker 5: the reading as a pile of debris, but you know,
Speaker 5: their motion in three of the images made it questionable.
Speaker 5: These are skeptics who claim there are skeptics that claim
Speaker 5: that the motion was likely caused by seals. It's always
Speaker 5: seals entering the lock. But that's you know, there's others
Speaker 5: point to the Lockness monster. And like I said, we'll
Speaker 5: probably recover, especially because you are Scottish, Like, we'll probably
Speaker 5: come back to the Lockness eventually, not the monster. But
Speaker 5: there is paranormal events. There is the connection Alister Crowley
Speaker 5: and Anton's going to bring that up now. So there
Speaker 5: is a lot of weird things to do with the
Speaker 5: with Lockness in general that I didn't even know. And
Speaker 5: with places like this, you have a lot of like
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's on a lay line. I
Speaker 5: don't think it is. But there's a lot of weird
Speaker 5: things when it comes to you know, these places of
Speaker 5: paranormal creatures, and the's supposed to be more paranormal creatures
Speaker 5: that are in lockness that like and stuff to do
Speaker 5: with fairies. I know you guys love the fairies. That's
Speaker 5: what me and Anton joked. I don't know, you should
Speaker 5: listen and check out the Bell Island the Mysteries of
Speaker 5: Bell Island that me and Anton covered because I joked
Speaker 5: about how like the Scottish and the Irish were constantly
Speaker 5: fighting and the English they're all fighting and shit like that,
Speaker 5: and then the Scottish and Irish are like fairies. Oh fairies,
Speaker 5: yes there, you know, and they finally agree on something.
Speaker 2: Because you guys want a big marketed to that sea
Speaker 2: that that's seen in.
Speaker 4: Brave Heart, where they are they're ready to go at
Speaker 4: each other and then they just stop like four inchould
Speaker 4: the way for each other and everyone hugs and then
Speaker 4: they turn on the.
Speaker 5: English for the fairies. Had you do you did you
Speaker 5: hear a lot of folklorees about fairies when you were
Speaker 5: a kid or anything like that.
Speaker 7: Or no, no, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Is that not an English thing like with the leprecns
Speaker 6: and fades.
Speaker 5: Yes, it also connects to Scotland too, which is.
Speaker 4: What I believe it was like Welsh and supposed toly
Speaker 4: like just that area, but I don't. I'm fairly ignorant
Speaker 4: on the the interconnectivity of all three of those areas,
Speaker 4: you know, like the the British Isles and what have
Speaker 4: you for lack.
Speaker 5: Of You guys have a lot of folklore, and that's
Speaker 5: would be interesting that you're Scottish and don't know about
Speaker 5: half of it, so it would be funny to cover also,
Speaker 5: like more Scottish cryptids, paranormal stuff to do with that. Fairies.
Speaker 5: There's such a big there's so many things about fairies,
Speaker 5: and at your neck of the woods across the pond,
Speaker 5: it's very there's a lot of things to do with fairies.
Speaker 5: We more have like skin walkers and shape shifting indigenous
Speaker 5: creatures and stuff like that. But that's why I love like,
Speaker 5: because you're the history of you know, even like you
Speaker 5: know Scotland, Ireland, you know, England all that, you know,
Speaker 5: that folklore that has stuck around for centuries before and
Speaker 5: then they brought it over here. The same thing to
Speaker 5: do with like obviously Halloween and those like the traditions
Speaker 5: passed on by Pagans.
Speaker 2: And stuff like that.
Speaker 5: It goes pretty deep with a lot of the weird
Speaker 5: folklore shit. Yeah, speaking of deep, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 5: Alister Crowley's butthole for a sec.
Speaker 2: To Crowley's butthole come into me. See unsheathed your wand
Speaker 2: so we does a want have a sheath? So okay,
Speaker 2: here's a fun fact that I learned.
Speaker 4: You know, why vagina's a fucked up word is because
Speaker 4: vagina is actually a sheath for a sword. What that's Yeah,
Speaker 4: so apparently that's that's why it's one of the derogatory
Speaker 4: terms you can use.
Speaker 2: For you know, a bulba and the whole the whole.
Speaker 4: Setup is because it's basically just saying it serves one purpose,
Speaker 4: and that's to have a sword put into it.
Speaker 5: Oh that's fucking funny. What I me and Aaron we're
Speaker 5: talking about ship?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Do you guy out if you guys do the same slang?
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's different and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: But he was very much strange ones because we did
Speaker 5: an episode to explain where Wan went. And uh, I
Speaker 5: guess in Ireland, wand is almost like a slut like
Speaker 5: that wand over there, Like it's like a girl, like
Speaker 5: a kind of slutty girl or a girl you want
Speaker 5: to get with type of shit. Okay, do you have ever
Speaker 5: heard of that?
Speaker 2: How do you spell it?
Speaker 5: He said? They spell it? What w A n like that?
Speaker 5: Wand over there?
Speaker 4: How the the Irish say having the crack and and
Speaker 4: here it means you have a severe substance to be
Speaker 4: his problem, but out there because you're just having a
Speaker 4: good time.
Speaker 5: I would love that.
Speaker 6: On the names for vaginas heard with this one recently,
Speaker 6: the beaver is actually because way way way back in time,
Speaker 6: when women maybe got hair lice in their nether regions,
Speaker 6: they would have to shave off and then because they
Speaker 6: were cold, they would skin a beaver and where that
Speaker 6: is like you know warm.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, I feel like I heard that.
Speaker 2: I want that to be true. That's fantastic.
Speaker 6: I think it's true that there's a guy on being
Speaker 6: who I frequent a lot. It's a it's an op
Speaker 6: for listening to podcast but a lot of live shows.
Speaker 6: And his name is Beaver, and everyone said, why Beaver,
Speaker 6: what'd you like Beaver? And he's like telling us all
Speaker 6: this interesting fought about the beaver and also did you
Speaker 6: know and told that story.
Speaker 5: We use beaver's as chainsaws in Canada, we just hold
Speaker 5: that's what we take down trees.
Speaker 2: And they also ride moose instead of drive in Kara.
Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about fucking the deepest buttthole ever.
Speaker 2: So uh.
Speaker 4: In nineteen thirty three, Crowley was asked to write ah
Speaker 4: an article for Empire News in the UK about Lockedness
Speaker 4: and this comes from Mysterious Universe.
Speaker 2: The article is as follows.
Speaker 4: I have been very intrigued by the recent stories concerning
Speaker 4: the appearance of some baarsome monster about thirty feet long,
Speaker 4: and I want it inside of me with ever with
Speaker 4: eyes reported to be like the headlights of a motor car,
Speaker 4: which is alleged to lurk in the depths of Lockness.
Speaker 4: Interested because at one time, during the pursuit of my
Speaker 4: investigations into magic, I owned the notorious manner of Bullskin
Speaker 4: and Abataf situated on the southeast side of Lochness, halfway
Speaker 4: between I'm gonna butcher this word inverfariakinn yeah, I n
Speaker 4: v e r f A R.
Speaker 2: I g A I G How the fuck would I
Speaker 2: say that?
Speaker 4: Inverfaria, thank you, Inverfarier and Foyer fy r s fo foyer. Yes,
Speaker 4: I say notorious, because long before I purchased the manner,
Speaker 4: it was already the place around which a score of
Speaker 4: legends had been woven, all of them of a mysterious nature.
Speaker 4: Thus the head of old Lord Lovot, who was beheaded
Speaker 4: after the forty five, was believed to roll up and
Speaker 4: down the corridor as a rambling old place.
Speaker 2: There was another legend that a.
Speaker 4: Lunatic had murdered his mother by smashing her brains out
Speaker 4: against the walls, and that she returned at times to
Speaker 4: pick them up again.
Speaker 2: Seas alone have sufficed to.
Speaker 4: Give Bolskin an evil reputation, and my own experiences there
Speaker 4: by no means diminished that evil reputation. Crowley continued to say,
Speaker 4: So you will appreciate my interest in the latest story
Speaker 4: of loch Ness, about which there have been so many speculations.
Speaker 4: I noticed that the monster has been seen by a
Speaker 4: number of reputable people who speak in odd tones. Some
Speaker 4: suggesting that it may be a survival of some prehistoric
Speaker 4: creature released from some fastness in the earth recent blasting
Speaker 4: operations in the district.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it might be from hollow Earth bro.
Speaker 4: It could be Others that it is some mysterious monster
Speaker 4: from the deep which has made its way to the
Speaker 4: lock from which you cannot now escape. I know not,
Speaker 4: and I only know that at the time I have known,
Speaker 4: locked ness has always been regarded by those living in
Speaker 4: the vicinity as the luck which never gives up its dead.
Speaker 4: Divers who have gone down as far as two hundred
Speaker 4: feet have told of huge fissures and holes in the
Speaker 4: bottom of the lake, whilst the deepest sounding yielded over
Speaker 4: seven hundred feet as its depths and places. I have
Speaker 4: no knowledge of this monster, but I have knowledge of
Speaker 4: the manner of Bullskin, where many uncanny events happened during
Speaker 4: the time I lived there.
Speaker 2: And it's not just because of the heroin in Mescute.
Speaker 5: It is weird and like, eventually I want to talk
Speaker 5: like back and go back into you know, maybe mysteries
Speaker 5: of the depth and the deep inside, because I think
Speaker 5: about it, well, we want to travel the fucking space.
Speaker 5: We want to fucking you know, we want to go
Speaker 5: to Mars with Elon fucking mask the fucking savior of
Speaker 5: these idiots, and uh, you know, in this we don't
Speaker 5: even explored half the ship in the fucking water. Also,
Speaker 5: not to disparage my tru I don't fucking trust. I'm
Speaker 5: not I'm not one. I do not fucking trust Elon
Speaker 5: Musk as far as I could throw him.
Speaker 2: I don't trust anyone, dude. Why would you? Why would
Speaker 2: you trust somebody that's made that far in society.
Speaker 5: Well, people like that, and it's like people are pointing out,
Speaker 5: like especially fucking religious people, that he might be the
Speaker 5: Antichrist because obviously any Christ comes as like uh uh,
Speaker 5: you know, charming individual, and he wants to put the
Speaker 5: neural link inside your brain, which could be the mark
Speaker 5: of the beast. But now it's just like the whole
Speaker 5: thing about Oh well, he's saying out the Chinese are
Speaker 5: so great because how long they work.
Speaker 2: And it kissed me the off.
Speaker 5: And and also the fact that he's like, how much
Speaker 5: money will it take to like feed the world? They're like,
Speaker 5: oh whatever, ninety billion dollars And then he bought fucking Twitter.
Speaker 4: He's temporarily purchase Twitter. He doesn't actually have it yet.
Speaker 4: They put a hiring freeze on. This is not relevant
Speaker 4: to what we're talking about, but he put a hiring
Speaker 4: for they put a hiring freeze on. I think they
Speaker 4: shit canned a couple of top executives that we're willing.
Speaker 2: To support him. So there's a whole big thing with that.
Speaker 4: But I mean that very well could just be the
Speaker 4: Hollywood theater to distract us from the fact that there
Speaker 4: are food plants burning down and you know, everything else
Speaker 4: that's going on right now.
Speaker 2: Pretty so.
Speaker 4: And then there's the uh, the Elon Musk amber Herd
Speaker 4: connection too, which is fucking you haven't seen that.
Speaker 2: I guess the Musk and Herd.
Speaker 4: Dated and there's a bunch of pictures of him walking
Speaker 4: around covered in bruises.
Speaker 5: She has a fucking psycho. She is fucking full blown reptilian.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Oh, she's not that good of an actress,
Speaker 4: so I doubt she's playing anything. But can we talk
Speaker 4: about somebody doing a key bump on the fucking stand
Speaker 4: That was glorious?
Speaker 2: What you didn't see that image.
Speaker 4: Where she like takes the fucking thing up and she's like.
Speaker 2: Blowing her nose and everyone's like it was just not rocket.
Speaker 4: I'm like, look, I know what it looks like when
Speaker 4: someone does cocaine. Do you think that she was doing
Speaker 4: Ya's Oh, I think she was doing a bump.
Speaker 5: It's what it looks like. Yeah, she could get in
Speaker 5: in there. I guess they're not searching her like.
Speaker 1: She just like.
Speaker 2: Cocaine doesn't go off in a fucking metal detector.
Speaker 5: Tom, that is really weird, man.
Speaker 6: You don't even know what kindechnology the the tissue itself
Speaker 6: was made of cocaine.
Speaker 7: You just don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, that was the old way they used to smuggle,
Speaker 4: is they would make cocaine into like a textile and
Speaker 4: they would build shit out of it, and then like
Speaker 4: there you go, like in Cheech.
Speaker 5: And Chong a little bit of water and she's like
Speaker 5: cheat and song the whole fucking Van's Man had of
Speaker 5: fucking wheat.
Speaker 2: They don't really realize that the quality shit.
Speaker 5: So the origins of NeSSI with obviously so many contradicting claims,
Speaker 5: it is doubtful we'll ever know the truth. You know,
Speaker 5: what actually caused the first sightings and these many settings.
Speaker 5: Is it human imagination or NeSSI yourself. However, there are
Speaker 5: many in several theories. What could be you know, the strange?
Speaker 5: What could be these strange things? What is this strange
Speaker 5: monster in Lockness? Obviously we talked about the kelpies. That's
Speaker 5: obviously that's just another paranormal style creature.
Speaker 2: Is it an eel?
Speaker 5: Perhaps you know they're eel because eels are known to
Speaker 5: supposed to be inhabit the Lockedness. That makes sense that
Speaker 5: a giant eel could have been the cause of the
Speaker 5: Lochness monster sightings. Many you know, proposed that it could
Speaker 5: have been this creature that was responsible for leaving wakes
Speaker 5: in the water and confusing tourists. Whoever, there are many
Speaker 5: who doubt this theory. Eels are known to move from
Speaker 5: side to side, similar to the manner and which snakes move.
Speaker 5: This contradicts the many reports that claimed that Locknes's monster
Speaker 5: were spotted moving up and down in the water. Still,
Speaker 5: the distance at which many of the sightings occurred do
Speaker 5: make it possible that NeSSI sightings could be confused with
Speaker 5: a large eel.
Speaker 2: Who knows, if you've heard the swimming elephant theory right
Speaker 2: what it was an elephant? So where's the only only
Speaker 2: find the thing.
Speaker 5: That strong East Indian guys just riding the fucking elephant
Speaker 5: into the water.
Speaker 4: So the Bertram Mills circus theory, this theory implies that NeSSI,
Speaker 4: the Lochness monster, is in fact the trunk of a
Speaker 4: swimming elephant. Theory came to light when it was discovered
Speaker 4: that Bertram Mills, the circus director at the time, was
Speaker 4: bathing his elephants in locknest during his tours.
Speaker 2: I could see it, Yeah, I could see it.
Speaker 4: Then there's the whole sturgeon theory, which isn't like, you know,
Speaker 4: the surgeon theory or anything like that, but the sturgeons
Speaker 4: for a lot of the sightings where people are you know,
Speaker 4: trying to go to c NeSSI and they see a
Speaker 4: lake surgeon, which is, you know, a dinosaur in and
Speaker 4: of itself in the locker.
Speaker 2: And there like there it is, it's moving, and it's like.
Speaker 4: You don't even have a basic understanding of you know,
Speaker 4: natural biology or any sort of fucking fish apparently because
Speaker 4: you're just a gaulking tourist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: So in twenty thirteen, Jeremy Wade of River Monsters TV
Speaker 5: show theorized that the Lochness monster may simply be a
Speaker 5: greenland shark that found its way into fresh water. It's
Speaker 5: possible because they can eventually adapt if they need to,
Speaker 5: but it is rare. This species of shark is known
Speaker 5: to be found in the North Atlantic Ocean, making it
Speaker 5: probable that it could may found its way to Scotland.
Speaker 5: It is known to be dark in color and can
Speaker 5: grow up to twenty feet in length, making it obviously
Speaker 5: a viable candidate for the Lockness Monster sightings. However, it
Speaker 5: has been yet to be reported that this species of
Speaker 5: sark actually made its way into Lockness.
Speaker 4: So you've heard the theory that it's an alien as well, right,
Speaker 4: because of the UFO sightings around.
Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna say. There's also which I
Speaker 5: was gonna mention, UFO sightings. That's what I'm saying. We
Speaker 5: could eventually dive back into Lockness, and there is many
Speaker 5: UFO sightings around Lockness. That's what it'd be kind of
Speaker 5: cool if they some I don't know if there is,
Speaker 5: but if there's like a camping ground where you could
Speaker 5: go camp near Lockness and then you know, bring out
Speaker 5: your phone or like try to seeving it footage just chill,
Speaker 5: you know, smoke up and look at the sky and
Speaker 5: see if you're seeing the UFOs. Maybe do some mushrooms
Speaker 5: and then you might just actually see an alien.
Speaker 2: There are way to make conta.
Speaker 5: The existence of a different monster. Let's just get this quick.
Speaker 5: Just obviously, those who theorize the Locknest Monster could be
Speaker 5: the name of another Scottish monster, the Kelpie the water
Speaker 5: horse a monster has a similar mo to NeSSI, making
Speaker 5: some wonder at the Lockedest monster could be developed based
Speaker 5: on you know, the telling of old legends. Studies of
Speaker 5: the Kelpie lore indicate that Lockness is one of the
Speaker 5: most common locks mentioned in the horror tales. So it's
Speaker 5: it's no proof of this, but and also or is
Speaker 5: it a dinosaur? There are many that realize that the
Speaker 5: Luckness monster descriptions matched that of uh Plothosaurus as we said,
Speaker 5: almost perfectly. This is the great excitement over the speculation
Speaker 5: that maybe a dinosaur species has survived his way into
Speaker 5: modern times, which is a possibility it could have happened.
Speaker 5: Who knows, right we it's you know, we have connections
Speaker 5: to like how we still have fucking you know, you know,
Speaker 5: like the lizard creatures that we have that still exist obviously,
Speaker 5: like the goddamn fucking bearded dragon and the big oat,
Speaker 5: the big one.
Speaker 2: What's the big one? Give me a Komodo dragon dragon? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the beard of dragons and those adorable little spiky buckers.
Speaker 5: I know. I Uh. Billy's buddy Alex had one and
Speaker 5: his name was uh, what was his fucking name? Is
Speaker 5: the stupidest name? Uh Dunks. I think it was like
Speaker 5: Dunks or something like that. And I'm like, why did
Speaker 5: you name your fucking uh Alex. That's been on actually
Speaker 5: a bunch of episodes of the podcast, and that's why
Speaker 5: we were able to say some stuff. But I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna say that because it's black. But uh. He also
Speaker 5: named his dog Gaspacho, which is a fucking soup.
Speaker 2: It's cold soup.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he named his dog after a cold soup. I
Speaker 5: was like, why the He's like, holl him spots and
Speaker 5: he's like, you know why. I was like, why did
Speaker 5: you name your fucking dog after a cold soup? But
Speaker 5: he's like I don't know. I'm like, man, you're fucking weird.
Speaker 2: The cereal soup.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what do we think? Do you guys believe
Speaker 5: locked us exist? You know, obviously if you the the
Speaker 5: host heads out there, let us know wheneverything like that,
Speaker 5: like this will be on Ian show too, so like
Speaker 5: you know, you know, if if you're like, you know what,
Speaker 5: email any of us you know, or you know, shout out,
Speaker 5: like you know, go on the instagrams and we'll shout
Speaker 5: there out later. Yeah, t sweet whatever. Like you know,
Speaker 5: we're on Twitter too. I hate Twitter, so Anton runs it.
Speaker 5: So yeah, just let let's know what you think. But
Speaker 5: I would like to believe it's real. This is one
Speaker 5: of the big cryptids. I think. I think it's possible.
Speaker 5: I'll say, I don't know, like you know, maybe forty
Speaker 5: five percent. I believe that it could. It could exist.
Speaker 7: What do you think it would be if it does exist.
Speaker 5: I think that it could be maybe something from hollow Earth.
Speaker 5: Like I do believe that there is We don't really
Speaker 5: explore explore the depths of the ocean. It could be
Speaker 5: something that deeps deeper than the ocean somehow got into
Speaker 5: luckness possibility, right, Who knows if it's from hollow Earth,
Speaker 5: because I do, I do believe it. I don't believe
Speaker 5: in fucking flat Earth, but I do believe the Earth
Speaker 5: could be hollow with the sun in the center is
Speaker 5: a possibility, and the earth actually revolves around a sun
Speaker 5: that's inside of the earth. But also there's a possibility
Speaker 5: that there is just deep cavern systems inside the earth
Speaker 5: that certain creatures live that we've never seen. And you know,
Speaker 5: there's the theory that that's what the grays are. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of different theories about that. But like, there
Speaker 5: could be cavern systems within the earth, which there is,
Speaker 5: that's where children always go missing, So who knows how
Speaker 5: deep they really go, and you know how many different
Speaker 5: creatures that we may not even know exist live inside them.
Speaker 5: So maybe a or an old dinosaur, I don't fucking know.
Speaker 4: I think that's that's probably pretty close to its entirely
Speaker 4: possible that this thing was just so left over from whatever,
Speaker 4: you know, prehistoric era. Very well, it's like, why isn't
Speaker 4: there a body? It's like, well, it's probably in a
Speaker 4: dangered species. They're very well, maybe just be caverns under there,
Speaker 4: and like many animals, it probably went and swam into
Speaker 4: that cavern when it knew it was close to the
Speaker 4: end of its life and just died there.
Speaker 2: So it's not going to surface.
Speaker 4: It's not going to come out, and unless you actually
Speaker 4: go down and find those caverns, you're never going to
Speaker 4: find the bones.
Speaker 5: That's true, all right, what do you think?
Speaker 6: I'm quite a pessimist on this stuff, so sorry to
Speaker 6: do in anyone's you know, But like I think, like
Speaker 6: with the Bigfoot and Lochness and aliens, to some degree,
Speaker 6: I think they would have shown themselves by now. Like
Speaker 6: lockness is probably not the cleverest of being, so wouldn't
Speaker 6: it just be like wandering out of the water all
Speaker 6: the time and be seen by now? You know?
Speaker 7: That's the way I think. And I know it's not
Speaker 7: proof at all.
Speaker 5: It's subjective, and aliens haven't shown up because we haven't
Speaker 5: raised our consciousness high enough because they think that we're
Speaker 5: just there's all the different theories, right, and aliens maybe
Speaker 5: show up, or like Bigfoot is an interventional creature and
Speaker 5: it's smarter than we understand, and that he kind of
Speaker 5: like goes in and out of fucking reality. At times,
Speaker 5: I tend to believe that there's creatures encryptids out there
Speaker 5: that could exist on different dimensional levels and somehow, you know,
Speaker 5: like the whole thing of when you're listening to a
Speaker 5: radio station. This is explained by David I. Like how
Speaker 5: the reptilians exist and why we see them shape shift
Speaker 5: on camera is because it's like listening to a radio
Speaker 5: station and they're just outside of the fringes of our reality.
Speaker 5: So then when you're like tuning into rays station and
Speaker 5: you kind of hear that static of another radio station
Speaker 5: come in, it's kind of like that where someone gets
Speaker 5: mucked up in their technology or what they're using, or
Speaker 5: just the reality in general, and then they start to
Speaker 5: you start to see little figments of what they actually are,
Speaker 5: these people in power. Who knows, right, But like there's
Speaker 5: the idea right that we're either the aliens don't give
Speaker 5: a fuck about us at all, and that we're not
Speaker 5: worth any of their time. We're like a TV show
Speaker 5: where they just watch and observe us because we're technically
Speaker 5: a new race compared to all these other races of
Speaker 5: aliens that are out there, because technically we'd be aliens
Speaker 5: to them. Or like there's all the theories that we
Speaker 5: haven't raised our consciousness high enough forwards it's too barbaric
Speaker 5: at this point, or to divide and conquer. We don't
Speaker 5: understand that we're all connected and that we're all sharing
Speaker 5: the same kind of mind that want unified consciousness. So
Speaker 5: that's what I tend to believe, is that they just
Speaker 5: were not at the level where they can introduce themselves
Speaker 5: because all hell will break loose. There are people that
Speaker 5: their minds will literally break, especially religious people. So is
Speaker 5: that aspect.
Speaker 7: I do like that stuff.
Speaker 6: I've heard quite a bit about like frequencies and other
Speaker 6: dimensional kind of stuff, and I'm I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 6: not saying on board with it, by I'm open to
Speaker 6: I think it's it's a plausible exist Well.
Speaker 4: John John Keel wrote the Eighth Tower, they guy that
Speaker 4: wrote the Malpman prophecies. Yeah, and the Eighth Tower is
Speaker 4: it introduces that idea that they're not actually extraterrestrial, but
Speaker 4: they're extra dimensional. Yes, that's why I think different, a
Speaker 4: different spectrum that we just can't perceive as humans.
Speaker 5: That's why they're not traveling in light years. They're traveling
Speaker 5: through dimensions like portals too.
Speaker 4: Essentially just traveling through terrorism and time or dimensional riffs
Speaker 4: or what have you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, supposedly a weird one here, getting you get
Speaker 5: into what you're getting too, and the I'm gonna talk
Speaker 5: about a portal.
Speaker 6: Very I was just going to say that there was
Speaker 6: a quote from one of the documentaries I watched this
Speaker 6: week on NeSSI, and it was just a random comment
Speaker 6: from the sky, but I wrote it down. I think
Speaker 6: it kind of sums up how I feel about it.
Speaker 6: Is we would all like to find a real life dragon,
Speaker 6: and as long as there are people looking at things
Speaker 6: they don't understand, that dragon will live. So it's like
Speaker 6: your your your love. We would love the idea of
Speaker 6: a dragon living in the water there. And as long
Speaker 6: as you are talking about and putting it on the
Speaker 6: biscuit tends that we buy in our shops, you know,
Speaker 6: it lives on.
Speaker 7: So the idea of NeSSI, I'm not on board.
Speaker 6: I don't believe in it, but I think that I
Speaker 6: think tourism as well, that you mentioned.
Speaker 7: Earlier in the show, it brings in. I've got it
Speaker 7: down here.
Speaker 6: It's like a million people travel to m Berness every
Speaker 6: year for NeSSI, and I trust me, guys, I've got
Speaker 6: no love to go there other than MESSI, like you,
Speaker 6: nobody would go there. It's it's it's a nice town,
Speaker 6: nice city, whatever, but it's not something you would go like.
Speaker 6: There's Glasgow, there's Edinburgh. There's much better places, and it's
Speaker 6: kind of out of the way. It's up in the Highlands.
Speaker 6: To me, I think it's it's a toctic that they've
Speaker 6: used through.
Speaker 2: You know, you like it?
Speaker 5: Do you like the movie Highlander? I've never seen it,
Speaker 5: but the thing is too like, Uh, if you ever
Speaker 5: go there, send us pictures and stuff like that. Obviously
Speaker 5: I would like to see, ye, I send us pictures
Speaker 5: of the old structures and all this stuff like that
Speaker 5: or whatever whatever's there. I would I would love to
Speaker 5: see pictures of it because, like I said, I would
Speaker 5: love the travel there. I was talking to Eric about
Speaker 5: that there if I could ever fucking get out, like
Speaker 5: if I ever had the money or the means, because uh,
Speaker 5: you know, traveling is very expensive. I know, I knew
Speaker 5: this girl I worked at at the restaurant where she
Speaker 5: literally work in the restaurants for a bit, save up money, travel,
Speaker 5: come back, save up money travel. I'm like, you're not
Speaker 5: saving anything. You gonna live, I'm gonna buy a house.
Speaker 5: Like there's all that ideas of that. But to get
Speaker 5: into right the whole like reptilian thing, which is kind
Speaker 5: of connected through dinosaur symbolism of the night fighting the
Speaker 5: dinosaur I mean, I didn't mean the dragons is a
Speaker 5: symbolism of the Reptilians and them trying to conqueress. Right,
Speaker 5: there's supposedly there was portals all over the Earth back
Speaker 5: in the day, essentially around the Earth where you could
Speaker 5: just travel in and out, and we are more extra
Speaker 5: I guess, interdimensional beings supposed to even humans because supposed
Speaker 5: we were from Lyra. There's all the fucking shit like that,
Speaker 5: So we're going back A ye, yeah, stargates too, like
Speaker 5: that's a yeah, like exactly, they're supposed to be surround Earth.
Speaker 5: And then when the Reptilians come came into mind Gold
Speaker 5: and to uses us slaves, they shut out down all
Speaker 5: those portals and now they're essentially guarding over them, so
Speaker 5: we can't really leave in that house. As tie in
Speaker 5: with the web around the earth that when you reincarnate,
Speaker 5: reincarnation as slavery, because you're just going back in the
Speaker 5: same body or well, the same style of fucking as
Speaker 5: a human, back and forth, back and forth, and here's
Speaker 5: going in and out because then they can just easily
Speaker 5: control us and we're an infinite source of energy for
Speaker 5: them fucking.
Speaker 2: Weird thet right that's called.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it, and that's why this is leading into
Speaker 5: where we decided to recover Reptilia. And that one's gonna
Speaker 5: be a lot of fun because we're gonna have Anton
Speaker 5: and Billy and all, like, all three of us are
Speaker 5: gonna be on doing that one. And I'm obviously the
Speaker 5: one of the more believer in Anton and Billy more skeptical,
Speaker 5: and Billy is gonna chirt me a lot because he's
Speaker 5: heard me speak about the Reptilians since he was about
Speaker 5: sixteen and I was about probably nineteen.
Speaker 2: It is pretty bad.
Speaker 4: I do sometimes feel like when it's the three of
Speaker 4: us billion, I gang up on you and just call
Speaker 4: you stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's happened. We stay it out of love. Of course,
Speaker 2: we're just like, Bro, you read one article.
Speaker 5: Come on, I saw them, bro, shadow people exist and
Speaker 5: that I believe that was a Repetilian trying to fuck.
Speaker 2: You people are not Reptilian shadow people as a whole.
Speaker 5: Not in my opinion. I believe that they're the shadow
Speaker 5: people are just the fringes of what we see, like
Speaker 5: they're just they're masquerading and they hide and their shadows
Speaker 5: because they're in lower dimensional frequencies and they were trying
Speaker 5: to suck my soul out.
Speaker 4: And that that's not what Tom wants them to suck.
Speaker 5: No, like I said on the one one episodes, Ghost
Speaker 5: try to rape me when I was a kid. So
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Speaker 2: Invader Dagget Underscore ttv uh.
Speaker 4: Go on and check out Reverend Kaijuice House of Trash
Speaker 4: that'll be out by the time this episode.
Speaker 2: Airsiting the Bunch my solo show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tom and I Wan and I did an episode
Speaker 4: on the Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent.
Speaker 2: Tom and I did an episode on street Trash. It's
Speaker 2: a movie.
Speaker 4: Sometimes TV, sometimes always weird. Sometimes just random internet ship
Speaker 4: like we're gonna do the the Great Emu War of
Speaker 4: Australia soon with with Steve and my buddy Justin because
Speaker 4: I turned them both onto that rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: And if you guys don't.
Speaker 4: Know what that is, please do yourself a favor and
Speaker 4: go check out the war that Australia lost against the
Speaker 4: emuch It.
Speaker 6: But I'm you everywhere you want to listen to podcasts,
Speaker 6: I'm pretty much on and got Twitter, on Instagram's the
Speaker 6: two main social media's.
Speaker 7: It's underscore, M underscore you, underscore pod.
Speaker 5: Spell that for people, because you know in Canada you
Speaker 5: is y oh you right, We would say it's.
Speaker 6: Just like the sheep spelling e w E the end
Speaker 6: b A A hyphen r a M hyphen e w E.
Speaker 6: And my video versions are always up on YouTube and
Speaker 6: Bitch You. But although YouTube bond a few episodes, so
Speaker 6: go to Bitch You. I always promote Bitch You more
Speaker 6: because I've never had any problems with them there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to. I'm trying to, like, I don't
Speaker 5: know if we need to get on Bitch You. It
Speaker 5: just sucks. I lost the video version of our Freedom
Speaker 5: Convo webisode was taken down from YouTube for medical misinformation.
Speaker 5: Same with the freestyle I did and this is say
Speaker 5: that I was like, try, like, I'm starting to do
Speaker 5: the reels the shorts on YouTube because it does get
Speaker 5: gain attraction. So I turned into it my YouTube channel
Speaker 5: and it's a freestyle to the real Slim Shady and Uh,
Speaker 5: the line is you want to get on only fans
Speaker 5: or your ass cheek shaking these mass sheep taking these
Speaker 5: vaccine patients to be in a hospital a bunch of cripples.
Speaker 5: So I got taken out for medical misinformation. And when
Speaker 5: it's funny, I laugh because I was like, when it
Speaker 5: comes to music, like even Tom McDonald, can you know,
Speaker 5: point out things in you know, the community, even you know,
Speaker 5: talking about men being women all that shit, that's okay,
Speaker 5: or neck we're talking about murdering people is okay. But
Speaker 5: as soon as you mentioned the shot, you get it
Speaker 5: taken out. It is kind of ridiculous. That's why I'm
Speaker 5: not mentioning too much because I don't want this taken
Speaker 5: down on YouTube, but yeah, it is. It's getting the
Speaker 5: censers getting shoots stupid. That's why I was wanting, should
Speaker 5: we go on bit shoot? But there's not a lot
Speaker 5: of people don't even know what the fuck is unless
Speaker 5: you're looking for stuff about COVID and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: A lot of people go towards that. But for podcasting
Speaker 5: and something like you know, we're we're gonna get rock
Speaker 5: Finn started. It's a development, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like that one seems to have a lot of I
Speaker 5: gotta fill it all that. I gotta fill it all
Speaker 5: the ship. I gotta do all that. I gotta fill
Speaker 5: out everything, because he's like, yeah, you're not done yet.
Speaker 5: You have to do all this stuff. It seems like
Speaker 5: a process where you know, you know, one even now
Speaker 5: is started a fucking a telegram. It's like, I don't
Speaker 5: know where the fuck he has time to do all
Speaker 5: this shit, you know. I mean, I like to interact
Speaker 5: with all the fans as much as possible, but one
Speaker 5: is fucking stretching yourself thin. I don't know how he
Speaker 5: does it.
Speaker 2: One works from home, he has the extra time, that's true.
Speaker 6: Wish telegrams on my leg telegram.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for conversations. Yeah, it's just hard, like you know,
Speaker 5: and we're trying to like we're trying to eventually do
Speaker 5: our own discord. Like it's so many fucking things that
Speaker 5: like eventually stretches us thin. So I started, I try
Speaker 5: to keep to a realm where the fans like only
Speaker 5: have a couple places they need to go. They don't
Speaker 5: need to go to a million different fucking things. And
Speaker 5: then it just gets all mucky and muddled. But you know,
Speaker 5: we love everybody out there, you know, go check out
Speaker 5: you know uh Ian show. We're gonna be doing a
Speaker 5: lot more collaboration, especially on certain topics. You know, probably
Speaker 5: do with Scotland obviously it makes sense. That's why I
Speaker 5: do with wand like, oh, let's stick to Florida, but
Speaker 5: we'll talk about some Canadian stuff too and get you
Speaker 5: in the realm of what Canada is all about in
Speaker 5: the States. And there's a lot of stuff in the
Speaker 5: works for Strange brew actually, and you know, and I
Speaker 5: know you're just growing your show, so all the fans
Speaker 5: are listening on your end of you know, like you know,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be exciting because I'll probably if you want
Speaker 5: me to come on your show and meet you want
Speaker 5: me and Anton to come on talk about Crowley like
Speaker 5: we're one hundred percent down, We could definitely do that.
Speaker 5: All three of us can get into a really big
Speaker 5: Crowley conversation. Anton's really versed on that stuff too.
Speaker 4: I was obsessed with Crowley when I was a teenager.
Speaker 2: I blame Aussie for it, but I have I have
Speaker 2: the fofth Tarot deck.
Speaker 4: I have literally, I mean, like right next to me
Speaker 4: right now is the fucking the Book of Foth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: I also have a book of the Law and a
Speaker 4: bunch of other shit in my library. I'm not I don't,
Speaker 4: you know, believe in Crowley's ideas necessarily because I'm not
Speaker 4: into Satanism.
Speaker 2: I think it's just too selfish.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was when I was, when I was but
Speaker 4: a lad, but you know I've since grown up a bit.
Speaker 5: Well, I like, I have a bunch I just I
Speaker 5: showed ante I got that huge book. It's like every
Speaker 5: of all Crowley's work and I've yet to get into
Speaker 5: it because I'm reading nineteen eighty four right now. But
Speaker 5: it's so thick that I'm like, where do I start?
Speaker 4: Like white, I want you to know, reading of white
Speaker 4: staines for the fucking Patriot.
Speaker 5: We'll do That'll do white stains for the Patreon. We'll
Speaker 5: start doing stuff like that. That would be fun for
Speaker 5: the Patriot. Actually, a good idea is to do certain
Speaker 5: readings from Crowley's book. But this thing is thick, like
Speaker 5: it's maybe I'll start with just reading white Stains for
Speaker 5: the thing, but it's this book is fucking massive, so
Speaker 5: it's going to take me a while to really get
Speaker 5: through all of it. And you know eventually we might
Speaker 5: revisit Crowley, who knows especially about certain aspects of his character.
Speaker 5: And it definitely relates to a lot of stuff in
Speaker 5: spirituality or the spiritual movement. Have a lot of stuff
Speaker 5: in the works and it's exciting, and I know you're
Speaker 5: just getting your show really pumping up and going, so
Speaker 5: let us know if you need us on for certain
Speaker 5: episodes and stuff.
Speaker 6: Definitely I can. I also push the other show on
Speaker 6: because yeah, they'll kill me for that. I started a
Speaker 6: show about February time with a woman from California. She's
Speaker 6: a Democrat, she's black, I'm white, I'm from Scotland. I'm
Speaker 6: more conservative leanings who were completely opposet but we get
Speaker 6: on really well. So we started the show using meiling up,
Speaker 6: which is like stream Yards or Zoom where we invite
Speaker 6: guests on.
Speaker 7: We're going to have you guys on there if you wish.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I told you I want to jump on there
Speaker 5: and talk some politics.
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 2: I'll bring the queer argument to the tube game if
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So far we've done like immigration, gun control, freedom
Speaker 6: of speech, and we're kind of.
Speaker 7: What we're going to do abortion.
Speaker 6: We're going to do like all the really hot topics
Speaker 6: and get people on from both sides. So those are
Speaker 6: live on a Saturday night UK time, eight o'clock. So
Speaker 6: I don't know what that is for you guys.
Speaker 2: Five hour differences or something like that. Five hours.
Speaker 4: We're Eastern standards, same time zone because we're about forty
Speaker 4: five minutes away from each other.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So that show is called Friendly Differences Podcasts. And
Speaker 6: again same Facebook, YouTube, bitchoot and audio version, same as
Speaker 6: the same as where you can find me.
Speaker 5: Yeah go check it out.
Speaker 2: Are you on are you on Spotify as well?
Speaker 7: Or yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we publish our shows well and borrow you
Speaker 6: for is to anchor Anchor dot fm, and they published
Speaker 6: it to about five or six places like Spotify's one.
Speaker 7: Cast Box is one, there's a few.
Speaker 5: Yeah, cast Box is good.
Speaker 4: Friendly Differences podcast yeah yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: I just gave it a follow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're going to be we're gonna be jumping
Speaker 5: on there for politics shit too, because you know, I
Speaker 5: you know, certain fans like it and certain fans don't
Speaker 5: like it. I've Billy told me one of a longtime
Speaker 5: listener doesn't like how much I mentioned Trudeau and it's
Speaker 5: just like, well he's fucking my life up. So it
Speaker 5: just gets brought up.
Speaker 4: As the late great Mitch Hepberg said, you can't please
Speaker 4: all the people all the time, and last night all
Speaker 4: those people were at my show.
Speaker 7: That's true.
Speaker 6: Actually I had this written down, is all forgot to say.
Speaker 6: But this is kind of stuff I like to do
Speaker 6: because I'm leaning right. I like to poke fun at
Speaker 6: the cognitive dissonance or the leftist this bullshit. This happened,
Speaker 6: and there was actually a news show Looked American where
Speaker 6: they were talking about that. There was a seventeen page
Speaker 6: article written up and handed to the UK schools to
Speaker 6: not teach Nassy, to not teach the Lackiness monster to kids,
Speaker 6: because it taught kids that Scotland was very indigenous.
Speaker 7: So it's like, yeah, yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 5: It's crazy. The ship, the way the world's going, it's
Speaker 5: fucked up. It's such a crazy world we're living. That's
Speaker 5: why I enjoy doing the show so much, because you
Speaker 5: know what, like this will and even if you know,
Speaker 5: if I die tomorrow, this will be up everywhere, right
Speaker 5: like it's it's now in the internet in the ethos, right,
Speaker 5: is that the That's what I'm thinking of It like
Speaker 5: it's in the global consciousness, so to speak, because that's
Speaker 5: what the Internet really is and stuff like that, and
Speaker 5: it's like, it really will never die, even if the
Speaker 5: Internet gets a race somehow, it's somewhere in the anals
Speaker 5: of history.
Speaker 4: Oh no, bro, even when you die, we're just going
Speaker 4: to continue making the show. But we're gonna just clip
Speaker 4: together like random bits and we're gonna make you completely
Speaker 4: reverse all of.
Speaker 2: Your stances on everything. You're gonna become super pro vaccine.
Speaker 2: You're gonna like praise Trudeau every five minutes. You're like,
Speaker 2: you know what, He's the best fucking leader we've ever had.
Speaker 5: Hopefully he's dead by then. Ah, so uh yeah, shut everything. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know where to find us everything. Yeah, support us.
Speaker 5: The best way is the best way. So yeah, So
Speaker 5: there's a lot of stuff coming. I think me and
Speaker 5: Anton will probably very soon starts streaming some Evil Dead.
Speaker 5: It is a lot of fun. It is hard, but
Speaker 5: that game just came out and it's fun. Man. I've
Speaker 5: already had a little fun with that ship.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and it was an absolute blast with some
Speaker 2: of you guys.
Speaker 5: We'll definitely reconnect. There'll be a lot of things in
Speaker 5: the work so we appreciate you guys, and uh, you know, stay.
Speaker 4: Strange, stay weird, fuckers, keep watching the sky and your TVs.
Speaker 2: Shoot the DV.
Speaker 3: I'd take a shot. I say my thoughts the way
Speaker 3: it's got. I should stay a lot in the padded room.
Speaker 3: My day is the last in the afternoon on my
Speaker 3: stays and my thoughts with that too, I lay in.
Speaker 4: Rad It's sad too.
Speaker 2: I've been the cass to attract.
Speaker 3: You at the name of God because I'm him truck
Speaker 3: on fine chance, time a time again, I'm blind advice
Speaker 3: and one again. When the end is near, friends, tennis
Speaker 3: deer can run in there and listen, not fucking test
Speaker 3: the deer.
Speaker 2: So a bit enough pleasurely you wicked strutch your efforts there,
Speaker 2: but it is not enough.
Speaker 7: This is tough.
Speaker 3: Fucknida to my mind that you got once you get
Speaker 3: sometimes U I hate what I thought.
Speaker 2: My mind spucks. We stay lost.
Speaker 3: There's no sight of us. We played God just like
Speaker 3: they're high and nuts hate their love. They just want
Speaker 3: to silence enough violence and test grew up tyrants start
Speaker 3: to shed their snake skin and fuck the royal family.
Speaker 3: I fucking hate them. There's no certainty when the children
Speaker 3: being taken and placed in no place that is in
Speaker 3: the safety stap still with wapist, they say, is got
Speaker 3: not a hand You didn't pay attention. I know about
Speaker 3: the plan we rolls things to inventions and the wealth
Speaker 3: of hologram.
Speaker 2: It's all about the dollar man, is what they say.
Speaker 3: And then they're destructive ways. They decide how much you're
Speaker 3: pay and start to play. I don't give up fucking
Speaker 3: what you say. I wish I could kill you, but
Speaker 3: your guts displayed to everyone sees what you're like.
Speaker 6: On the other side.
Speaker 7: Better blave by drinking, gain by.
Speaker 2: I'm heavenly. I think God been a love a thousand times.
Speaker 2: We live and die, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: You being shot and run aft the closed doors, do
Speaker 2: the knowledge and stry to know more, and strive to
Speaker 2: know more,