Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen?
Speaker 2: What? What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Occult Rejects Today I have the pleasure
Speaker 4: of bringing on the author and researcher Thomas Sheridan. He
Speaker 4: is known for his fearless exploration of human psychology and
Speaker 4: society's darker corners. Today we'll be talking about his groundbreaking
Speaker 4: book Labyrinth of the Psychopath, which dells deeply into the
Speaker 4: twisted pathways of psychopathic behaviors, unveiling the disturbing reality behind
Speaker 4: those who navigate society with ruthless, cunning, and emotional detachment.
Speaker 4: Before we introduce him, I will introduce all the other
Speaker 4: occult rejects. Lisa, what is going on? The occult reject
Speaker 4: mad Scientist.
Speaker 5: Good to be here.
Speaker 6: I'm very excited to hear about Thomas Jaredan's work, especially
Speaker 6: some of the psychopath stuff. So thank you all the
Speaker 6: ecoult rejects, very inviting me and I a forward to
Speaker 6: a very very very great end up discussion. And if
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Speaker 2: Thank you awesome, No, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: And we also got the megalith Man himself, the man
Speaker 4: of weird Science.
Speaker 2: We got Ricardo joining us today. Please Ricardo, let everybody
Speaker 2: know what's up with you on your deal.
Speaker 5: Good evening, so thank you very much for having me
Speaker 5: once more. My name is Ricardo Coolvario. I'm a multidisciplinary researcher.
Speaker 5: I work intimately with the Institute Financial Philosophy that you
Speaker 5: can find at Institute Finanacal Philosophy dot org uh and
Speaker 5: you can find me and my ex page that as
Speaker 5: it is on the screen is Ricardo Calvary one at
Speaker 5: x and you'll find all the links to connect to
Speaker 5: my work in dere So, thank you very much, and
Speaker 5: good evening to everyone on the panel.
Speaker 2: Awesome, thank you so much for joining us. Ricardo.
Speaker 4: And today we got a we got a friend of
Speaker 4: the show joining us today. We got Jewels from Great
Speaker 4: Pill Podcast. What we're trying to bug this guy to
Speaker 4: come on. We finally made it happen again. So thank you, Jules.
Speaker 4: It's always a pleasure to have you joining us. Man,
Speaker 4: So please let everybody to know what the deal is.
Speaker 7: It's it's all, it's always a it's always a pleasure
Speaker 7: to come on, man, Thank you for having me. It's
Speaker 7: it's always good to meet new people. We always have
Speaker 7: good conversations on this show. Yeah, guys, I'm I'm the
Speaker 7: host of gray Pilled, but I also do I'm the
Speaker 7: co host of Sound Science, h Eloheam, Etymology and Sunday Chaos.
Speaker 7: I also have You can find me on Patreon. I
Speaker 7: do my esoteric book reviews on there. We're currently doing
Speaker 7: a watch party watching season one to twin Peaks. A
Speaker 7: lot of stuff over there. I'm on Twitter at gray pill, pod, Rumble, YouTube, Spotify,
Speaker 7: all all that good stuff. So yeah, Nick, thank you
Speaker 7: for having me on.
Speaker 4: No, of course, of course, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4: And we got Ethan Indigo with us today. Please Ethan,
Speaker 4: let everybody know what your deal is.
Speaker 8: Peace, honor to be here with everyone. I'm excited to
Speaker 8: get some lessons from Thomas and learn about his experiences
Speaker 8: and ideas. And I'm a writer also on the Esoteric
Speaker 8: and Exoteric recent article on Occult Research Institute, and I'm
Speaker 8: on all the usual social media, so appreciate connection and communication.
Speaker 4: Thanks you guys, of course, always love having you joining us.
Speaker 4: And last but not least, before we get to the guest.
Speaker 4: We got JJ Vans and not the Vice president. What's
Speaker 4: going on today, sir, Nick?
Speaker 1: Greeting Sarah.
Speaker 9: I appreciate the invite as always, and fellow Cult Rejects,
Speaker 9: always great to join you all, and Thomas, great to
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Speaker 9: always good time here at the Cult Rejects.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, JJ.
Speaker 4: And finally to the man himself, the guest Thomas Sherdon. Please, sir,
Speaker 4: let everybody know what your deal is. Where they can
Speaker 4: find all your amazing.
Speaker 3: Work well, my s sphere of contactors, diminishing, great feat
Speaker 3: of late Well, the best place to find me would
Speaker 3: be on substack. Thomas Sheardon, you'll find me there. I
Speaker 3: quite love substack. I look reading and writing on it,
Speaker 3: and it's a true free speech platform. I the YouTube
Speaker 3: channels are there, and I'm on Telegram. So my YouTube
Speaker 3: channels is Thomas Shirt and Thomas Shirt and two and
Speaker 3: beyond room three one three, and that's basically where I
Speaker 3: am now. And yeah, so i'mking. You know, there's a
Speaker 3: lot off I put a lot of stuff out over
Speaker 3: the last fourteen or so years, and so there's a
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to go dig and you'll
Speaker 3: probably be digging forever. I really need like an archivist
Speaker 3: or something you can compile at all. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'll probably have one I'm dead or something.
Speaker 4: Well, I will have to say a really big shout
Speaker 4: out to zarileth I really appreciate my man.
Speaker 2: So he hooked me up with you on Instagram, then
Speaker 2: you lost your Instagram. Then he hooked me up with
Speaker 2: you on your Twitter.
Speaker 4: Then you lost your Twitter, and I had to go
Speaker 4: looking for your email just to make sure I catch
Speaker 4: you on the show today.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, what's going on with this guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it came comical at one point. Well, anyway, here
Speaker 3: we are. We made it.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, please if you can, let you know, let
Speaker 4: the people know. Besides the book, that we're talking about
Speaker 4: Labyrinth of the Psychopath. Let people know, like some of
Speaker 4: the other work you've done, because I mean, you've kind
Speaker 4: of done all areas of stuff. If you don't mind,
Speaker 4: you know, if you want to plug some more.
Speaker 2: Of your books.
Speaker 3: I was a kind of a you know, it was
Speaker 3: kind of like a very acute, inquisitive child. And I
Speaker 3: grew up. I grew up in a tough area in
Speaker 3: neighborhood on the north side of Dublin and Ireland, and
Speaker 3: I was very interested from an extremely early age. I'm
Speaker 3: something of like eight and nine in India cult and
Speaker 3: I was reading down sweetly novels. And I read Conway's
Speaker 3: book on the Occult Primer, The Magical Primer when I
Speaker 3: was about ten, and I did one of the workings
Speaker 3: in it and it happened at worked, it actually came
Speaker 3: the past, and it became very frightened because I didn't
Speaker 3: you know, it was like, you know, it's one of
Speaker 3: those things you do as a kid that you don't
Speaker 3: think it's going to happen, and it happens and you
Speaker 3: suddenly have you get frightened by it. So I stayed
Speaker 3: away from that for a little while, but it was
Speaker 3: still very interest in him, and I used to have
Speaker 3: a bicycle and I used to cycle out outside the
Speaker 3: city and go for his ancient sites. But I had
Speaker 3: a find of fascination with things like round towers and
Speaker 3: megalits and stuff like that. On top of all that
Speaker 3: trying to go through school, the normal day to day
Speaker 3: things and playing music. I was in a couple of
Speaker 3: bands and that kind of thing. So I was basically
Speaker 3: typical of my generation. I was born in the mid
Speaker 3: late sixties, so I was like, you know, we had
Speaker 3: it was a very good time to be a young person.
Speaker 3: Even in Ireland in the nineteen eighties. There was tremendous
Speaker 3: opportunities to do everything kind of thing you wanted in
Speaker 3: terms of exploring your mind and stuff, and so that
Speaker 3: led to one thing. And so I'm very interested in
Speaker 3: the cult, very much, so very interested in things, say
Speaker 3: the American writer HB. Lovecraft, and that a deep studied,
Speaker 3: long term study of that. I'd made a documentary about him,
Speaker 3: and I've been to the New England many many times
Speaker 3: and visited those locations and it's almost like he's an
Speaker 3: obsession for me. Yeah, I'm interested in the crossover period
Speaker 3: between when Christianity ended and when pagan has ended and
Speaker 3: Christianity began, and that mysterious part of history that Gray
Speaker 3: Area wrote a book about it called The Truth Code.
Speaker 3: I've written book about the Round Towers of Ireland. They've
Speaker 3: written a book on the occult called Sorcery, wrote two
Speaker 3: books on psychopathy and one online control and that's basically it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I know it sounds kind of the diverse,
Speaker 3: but even the psychopathic thing that came out of accult
Speaker 3: kind of thing as well. You know, there is a
Speaker 3: spirit I would say, well, a spiritual dimension to that
Speaker 3: is very powerful, and I wanted to be the first
Speaker 3: person to address that outside the Abrahamic framework of you know,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a Christian and they're all evil. I
Speaker 3: didn't want to go I wasn't. I'm not a Christian,
Speaker 3: a pagan. I'm actually in an European pagan. So that's
Speaker 3: where puzzling People came from. Now the book is fourteen
Speaker 3: years old. Now I'm not something like that twelve years old,
Speaker 3: and it still sells fairly well. I still get my
Speaker 3: royalty checks from the publishers and they, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: surprised that it's like, you know, it's enough to pay
Speaker 3: a few bills and you know, some extra beer money,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. And I've kept the publisher happy.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm the same publisher. So I thought it. I
Speaker 3: thought like when the book came out, I thought like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I get a bit of a blaster from it. I
Speaker 3: think it sold nearly two hundred thousand copies at this point,
Speaker 3: and it was very trimendously successful. And you know, this
Speaker 3: is over, this is over twelve years now, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, so it sounds good. If I got that
Speaker 3: in one year, it'd be like I wouldn't be living here.
Speaker 3: It's doing really well, but you know, we'd spread over that.
Speaker 3: It always sounds amazing, and then you realize, you know,
Speaker 3: it built the same amount of money to make if
Speaker 3: I was working in a supermarket part time. You know.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I was the right one, too obsessive. That
Speaker 3: would I'd been like that. It reached so many people,
Speaker 3: helped so many people. How it came about was I
Speaker 3: was working as a graphic designer and corporate communications guy
Speaker 3: in Goldman Sachs on Wall Street. This would be mid eighties.
Speaker 3: I wasn't the money guy. I was a communications and
Speaker 3: marketing kind of guy and very much liked the job
Speaker 3: and like the people there. But there were certain individuals
Speaker 3: there they did work in the international financing thing that
Speaker 3: there was something up right with them. Now I couldn't
Speaker 3: quite put the finger on it. They were very glib,
Speaker 3: very vacuous. They didn't really have the sense of humor
Speaker 3: I had, And when they tried to impress me, they
Speaker 3: knew I had a kind of surreal sense of humor,
Speaker 3: which I do, you know, very much. So that's part
Speaker 3: of the sort of chaos, magic world discordia. I was
Speaker 3: like that came out of so, you know, I found that, like,
Speaker 3: you know, you can always tell a person by your
Speaker 3: sense how to erect your sense of humor, you know,
Speaker 3: they you know, there's a tremendous tool that So these
Speaker 3: these people would try to impress me with things, and
Speaker 3: I was like, you really don't understand me at all,
Speaker 3: do you you know, Like it was almost like they
Speaker 3: saw me as a pastiche of a stereotype or something
Speaker 3: of what they wanted me to be. But I also
Speaker 3: saw how cold and aggressed that they could be and manipulative,
Speaker 3: particularly around you know, people that they were using. So
Speaker 3: just you know, the gods were in alignment at the time,
Speaker 3: and I was reading books about site about serial killers.
Speaker 3: I took an interest in serial killers around that time
Speaker 3: because I had a friend who used to live next
Speaker 3: door to John Liszt. He was a serial killer that
Speaker 3: was in New Jersey that had actually run away and
Speaker 3: America's Most Wanted had made a reconstruction of his face
Speaker 3: at how he'd looked all these decades later and they
Speaker 3: actual didn't have them. And this guy had worked with Tommy,
Speaker 3: you know, John. This was a serial killer who was
Speaker 3: also the bogeyman in the town that we lived in.
Speaker 3: So it became kind of interesting, kind of think of cultic,
Speaker 3: like the Jackal Ripper kind of thing. There's a spiritual
Speaker 3: as well as a kind of a crime element to it.
Speaker 3: So I was reading books about like Ted Dundy and
Speaker 3: David Yallops Delivers from Evil, which is about the Yorkshire
Speaker 3: Ripper in England and which he correctly identified that there
Speaker 3: was somebody helping him that was almost certainly celebrity or
Speaker 3: someone famous because the government and the police were protecting them.
Speaker 3: That turned out later to be Jimmy Saville, the famous
Speaker 3: notorious pedophile and sex freaker from the BBC. So I
Speaker 3: was reading this stuff at the time, and I was
Speaker 3: I was reading the profiling of serial Killers by by
Speaker 3: you know, criminal psychologists and stuff like that, and I'm
Speaker 3: reading the profile and I'm looking at this fucker I'm
Speaker 3: working with, and I'm looking at the profile, and I'm going,
Speaker 3: that's him, that's that's him, that's exactly him, exactly. He
Speaker 3: doesn't kill. He doesn't the glibness, the superficiality, the manipulation,
Speaker 3: the dead eyed stare when he'd asked me for something
Speaker 3: and I didn't have it, the eyes and flaming like
Speaker 3: going like this, you know, and you know when he
Speaker 3: when he and then say suddenly, no, I don't worry
Speaker 3: about him again. It's sorted, and they go, great, let's
Speaker 3: go and get drunk, you know, and not feeling completely
Speaker 3: comfortable around him, you know, that kind of thing, like
Speaker 3: you knew you'd never been you never want to like
Speaker 3: be mates with him, really, you know, that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: And so then I started. There was almost nothing. This
Speaker 3: was mid nineties. There was like the books like People
Speaker 3: of the Lie, you know, it was Hervey Klewoodley's books
Speaker 3: on on psychopathy, but they were they were not right
Speaker 3: and then later on, Robert Harre came out from the
Speaker 3: University of British Columbia and WASSM is his checklist that
Speaker 3: actually gave you an insight into him and his work
Speaker 3: was amazing because he referred to them as intra species predators,
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's it, that's it. There's there's
Speaker 3: something un human about them. And then that started me
Speaker 3: on a huge just interest, just like for myself, like nerdy,
Speaker 3: you know, interesting this stuff. And because I was like
Speaker 3: and I was reading, I was like, holy shit, I
Speaker 3: wish I knew this when I was leaving school. I
Speaker 3: wish I knew this when I was twenty two. I
Speaker 3: wish I knew this when I was forty. And this
Speaker 3: explains that guy, this explains who, this explains this person.
Speaker 3: How Come I don't know this valuable information that would
Speaker 3: have made my life significantly less difficult when I was
Speaker 3: trying to make my way through life as a young
Speaker 3: lad coming into adulthood, and I would have realized, right,
Speaker 3: or they what I was dealing with and how to
Speaker 3: deal with them. Well, you know, they weren't people who
Speaker 3: could actually reach or communicate with or you know, change
Speaker 3: or anything like that. And so I started making videos
Speaker 3: about fourteen fifteen years ago on YouTube and shoe YouTube.
Speaker 3: Force came out in the back room there on my
Speaker 3: laptop called Labyrinth to the Psychopath and I started just
Speaker 3: as a kind of again a nerdy, geeky you know,
Speaker 3: thing to share while they blew up. They suddenly got
Speaker 3: loads of hits. And then this the publisher of the
Speaker 3: book Puzzling People, saw the videos and said, you've got
Speaker 3: to write a book on this, and we've got to
Speaker 3: put it.
Speaker 1: Help you.
Speaker 3: And so that's how that came about. That's how that
Speaker 3: came about now. And so it was good in one
Speaker 3: way is because okay, it got me. I got me
Speaker 3: a name out there, so I was able to deliver
Speaker 3: my other work. You know, it gave me a profile,
Speaker 3: and I went on shows like you know red Ice,
Speaker 3: remember when red Ice was really big back then, and
Speaker 3: I got a huge amount and I was invited to
Speaker 3: do conferences in Britain and stuff like that, and and
Speaker 3: so it's the steam roll at that point out. But
Speaker 3: it was always amazing how people always have the same
Speaker 3: you know, Thomas, you nailed those perfect that my ex
Speaker 3: husband perfectly, You nailed my ex boss, you nailed the
Speaker 3: neighbor next door perfectly, and I said, no, they've all
Speaker 3: We've always known this. And then I almost had a
Speaker 3: conspiratorial aspect to it, that they were delibery keeping it
Speaker 3: from us. I think that was true. I think people
Speaker 3: would have seen short of liked of Bill Gates and
Speaker 3: Fouci and a almost a lot easier and quicker and
Speaker 3: people like that, and Tony Blair in particular. Now that
Speaker 3: caused me problems because in twenty twelve I did a
Speaker 3: conference in England and it was withdd Do you remember
Speaker 3: what was his name, the guy who wrote the book
Speaker 3: Confessions of the Wall Street Guy, Confession of an Economic
Speaker 3: hit Man. I was on tour with him, I forget
Speaker 3: his name. And there was a big audience in a
Speaker 3: high profile place in central London that was being broadcast
Speaker 3: and I said that Tony Blair shows all the classic
Speaker 3: you know, makings of a psychopathy, has them all and
Speaker 3: I was tailed. I was by m I five, I was,
Speaker 3: you know, had all kinds of spooks from cults sent
Speaker 3: after me and everything because and then it was in
Speaker 3: tremendous education because I realized how the world really worked
Speaker 3: and this kind of thing. And so that was the
Speaker 3: dark side of it, but that eventually went down. But yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a it's a very it's a very interesting subject
Speaker 3: and it's something now i've kind of not having shunned
Speaker 3: it in the last decade, but I kind of put
Speaker 3: it to one side. But as from the COVID on
Speaker 3: the whole COVID experience back on, and seeing the behavior
Speaker 3: of politicians and bureaucrats, the civil servants and how they
Speaker 3: were salivating locking us down and all this stuff and
Speaker 3: smirks on their faces, it started to ferment again into
Speaker 3: my conscious so I started revisiting this work. So that's
Speaker 3: basically the story of how I came up with that
Speaker 3: and how that developed purly by accident, purely as an
Speaker 3: interest that was trying to help myself. And I mean,
Speaker 3: I get still this day. I still got lots of
Speaker 3: emails and people all over the world saying you saved
Speaker 3: my life. I people got in the street all the
Speaker 3: time where I go in the world, like you know,
Speaker 3: and it's like it's remarkable, you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 3: it's it's like this. I mean, people always say to me,
Speaker 3: you popularize the term gas lighting because no one was
Speaker 3: using until it was very rare and very hidden, and
Speaker 3: as you started popularizing it on the Internet and suddenly
Speaker 3: it shows up on TV shows and all that. And
Speaker 3: I was in contacted by Hollywood people and stuff like
Speaker 3: that in the early days, but I never answered them
Speaker 3: or never had anything to do with them or anything.
Speaker 3: But so it's it's it wheedled a swing into the zeitgeist,
Speaker 3: you know, and now everyone uses the term even like Trump,
Speaker 3: and everyone uses the term gas lighting. And so I
Speaker 3: think I did have a kind of a soft impact
Speaker 3: on Western culture, not in any kind of great spectacular way.
Speaker 3: I wasn't particularly original, but I think I have a
Speaker 3: good kind of because I'm just a regular fellow, you know,
Speaker 3: just a regular artist, lad, I'm not like anything special.
Speaker 3: And I think that like appeal to a lot of
Speaker 3: people to hear it from someone like me rather than
Speaker 3: some snooty academic, And I think it did reach people.
Speaker 2: Do anybody have any questions?
Speaker 5: I would like to go on, Lisa, please do, please do.
Speaker 6: So, just really quickly. You mentioned la Crafty and that
Speaker 6: jarred open. You know, some of his characters that were
Speaker 6: you know, had some spiritual corruption to their themes. But
Speaker 6: you in some of the interviews that I've watched, and
Speaker 6: I've I've briefly read You're Puzzling People book. You mentioned
Speaker 6: psychological conditions and how they intersect with almost like a
Speaker 6: spiritual contagion, like a virus of the soul, something that
Speaker 6: kind of infiltrates and then thrives on infiltrates and thrives
Speaker 6: on chaos and erodes empathy. Would you say that that
Speaker 6: psychopathy has transcended more of a matter of survival to
Speaker 6: now spiritual discernment.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, In fact, that's what the book was really about
Speaker 3: many ways, because anyone who's been through that experience, I've
Speaker 3: never I've only known male psychopaths. I've never been in
Speaker 3: a relationship with a female one, so I don't know
Speaker 3: that element that's only gone what other people told me
Speaker 3: in a relationship kind of thing. But the damage to
Speaker 3: some of these people is it's it's I can only
Speaker 3: describe it as soul rape. It's it's quite shocking. Then
Speaker 3: they talk about the physical changes in their bodies and everything,
Speaker 3: and these weird dreams they have and all this kind
Speaker 3: of thing, and yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent, you're right
Speaker 3: about that. And another aspect of it, too, was that
Speaker 3: I felt lots of weird things went on when I
Speaker 3: was working on the books, and late at night they'd
Speaker 3: be like things would fall off shelves and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and all kinds of things would happen, and it brought
Speaker 3: some very peculiar people into my life that I'm still
Speaker 3: trying to come to terms with. I was absolutely there
Speaker 3: is a spirit. It is spiritual to mention, well, everything
Speaker 3: is when you think about it, when you you know,
Speaker 3: really get down. But that absolutely is, and you could
Speaker 3: sit you know. I remember, I can remember one of
Speaker 3: I was an event I did in London and I
Speaker 3: was a guy who was like a Harley Street psychiatrist.
Speaker 3: And this was a guy who was like, you know,
Speaker 3: the top guys in like Britain in terms of it
Speaker 3: as a psychiatrist. And he came up to me and
Speaker 3: he said, hey, you Thomas read the book very interesting.
Speaker 3: And I was going and he introduced himself, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: know doctor or whatever, blah blah blah. I have I
Speaker 3: have a have a you know, I played in my
Speaker 3: practice down on Harvey Street. And I'm going, oh, no,
Speaker 3: he's going to he's slagging me off and he goes,
Speaker 3: you're right there, demons, that's all he said, there you go.
Speaker 1: That came from I enjoyed.
Speaker 9: I enjoyed hearing about your background there, Thomas, of your
Speaker 9: writing your book there and identifying psychopaths, and you make
Speaker 9: it very important. And I think that as far as
Speaker 9: no one really teaches us how to identify these psychopaths, right,
Speaker 9: you were saying that, had you known how to identify
Speaker 9: these folks, you know, you'd have been better well equipped
Speaker 9: in which to to not to understand what you're dealing
Speaker 9: with in the circumstances of an environment. And I think
Speaker 9: that's a good point as far as I'm concerned. You could,
Speaker 9: you know, identifying a psychopath should be taught to kindergarteners
Speaker 9: in a book next to what is a cow?
Speaker 1: And what is a lamb? You know? And what does
Speaker 1: a cow say? Mow?
Speaker 9: And what does a psychopath say? You just answered anything
Speaker 9: from Henry Kissinger right any quote?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So a very funny one too, because it's
Speaker 3: a very peculiar thing too, because this set Another thing too,
Speaker 3: is because there was all these kind of psychopath what
Speaker 3: they called psychopod recovery groups from people being in relationships,
Speaker 3: and it was for people who literally saw psychopaths everywhere
Speaker 3: and that's completely wrong and healthy as well. If somebody
Speaker 3: don't think me as a psychopath, or someone pissed him off,
Speaker 3: ros she's a psychopath. This became a kind of for
Speaker 3: a while there around the twenty and thirteens. There was
Speaker 3: some bot kind of hysteria around it. Then that come out,
Speaker 3: and that's thankfully that stop now and it's come back
Speaker 3: to a more balanced thing. But the thing is that,
Speaker 3: like everybody has done something in their lives that could
Speaker 3: be pat you know, we all have a lot of
Speaker 3: those things we've done. And the people come up with,
Speaker 3: said Thomas, I I think I'm a psychopath and what
Speaker 3: makes you think that? And he goes, well, you know,
Speaker 3: I got into a fight in a pub and I
Speaker 3: went to prison and you know, beat a guy up,
Speaker 3: and okay, okay, what makes you think your psychopath? Well,
Speaker 3: because I beat a guy up and when I was drunk.
Speaker 3: And I says, dude, how do you feel about it now?
Speaker 3: And he goes, oh, every day in my life, I'm
Speaker 3: pull of shame about it. I says, swear to tell
Speaker 3: you know a psychopath. If you're a psychopath, you wouldn't
Speaker 3: give a shit and you would be telling me that
Speaker 3: the guy deserved that, and you were defending yourself. You
Speaker 3: would never warn probability or any kind of flaws in
Speaker 3: your personality. You know, this kind of thing. So a
Speaker 3: lot of people that put get paranoid, that watch films
Speaker 3: and get paranoid or what documentary parent. No, no, they're
Speaker 3: different than the brain. You put them under an f
Speaker 3: m RI scam and it's quite frightening actually, And they
Speaker 3: would show they would show normal people, say, an image
Speaker 3: of a sun said, and an image of a kitten,
Speaker 3: and then the next thing, you know, a mortar, someone
Speaker 3: had a throat cut, like in the Middle East, and
Speaker 3: the frontal cortex of a normal brain goes absolutely bonkers
Speaker 3: because you're in shock. But what you just saw, you know, well,
Speaker 3: the psychopath seeing a picture of a kitten and seeing
Speaker 3: a picture of someone being beheaded, there's no difference, and
Speaker 3: don't change the brain activity in the front of cortex
Speaker 3: doesn't change. So it's just like information, there's no thing.
Speaker 5: So Thomas, if I may uh, I was going to
Speaker 5: start from another point, but this is the one that
Speaker 5: you mentioned is as good as any other. So let's
Speaker 5: take in consideration stoicism, right, So you don't necessarily need
Speaker 5: to be a psychopath. You might as well be illuminated
Speaker 5: guy and react the same way to a kitten or
Speaker 5: someone being strangled. Okay, but I understand your point. I'm
Speaker 5: just saying that there might be other ways to identify
Speaker 5: people besides their emotions. Although the MRI is quite clear.
Speaker 5: I've seen that, and it's quite clear now in terms
Speaker 5: of the rest, I have two questions that might take
Speaker 5: a week to answer, And one point is when we
Speaker 5: analyze children, we see that they are completely manipulative, especially
Speaker 5: in today, when parents are taking the ability to correct
Speaker 5: them in public or this or that, and they use
Speaker 5: that manipulation to control the adults. And perhaps there is
Speaker 5: some clique that during the evolution they cannot disconnect from
Speaker 5: that way of manipulating others or to want what they
Speaker 5: have or what they want right. So I'm just trying
Speaker 5: to see if there is a step over there that
Speaker 5: can be analyzed. And as a final point, in terms
Speaker 5: of what you're describing to me from my research, I
Speaker 5: would fit there perfectly, not exclusively, but perfectly in for instance,
Speaker 5: the teachings of the House of Caparra that I'm not
Speaker 5: sure if you heard. So this is a class of
Speaker 5: vampires that teach not to hinderre other people, but to
Speaker 5: use them. So the highest levels have this around them
Speaker 5: that allow this extraction of energy that they have these
Speaker 5: terrible dreams, they have the emotions, but they volunteer themselves
Speaker 5: to that person. But those that are circling around us
Speaker 5: on the world, they use this ability to suck energy
Speaker 5: from others. And this happens sometimes with husband and wife
Speaker 5: and whatever, because some people don't know that have that ability,
Speaker 5: and they drained the other people. So it's people that
Speaker 5: we are next to them, and people felt completely drained
Speaker 5: or exhausted without a reason, or tired or whatever. So
Speaker 5: I would just I know this is quite complex. I
Speaker 5: just wanted to see how you would encompass this in
Speaker 5: your research.
Speaker 3: Yes, good stuff. The fourth one about children. All children
Speaker 3: are to be manipulated. All children are to be manipulated
Speaker 3: from them on their babies, they know what they cry
Speaker 3: to get attention or they'll get mother's milk. So it's
Speaker 3: a kind of a learned biological thing that's completely normal.
Speaker 3: There was some very disturbing but you know, work on
Speaker 3: very good work in Florida and done about again about
Speaker 3: fifteen years ago where They identified children that have psychopathic
Speaker 3: traits and they were in a group of other kids,
Speaker 3: and they moved them out and they they were all
Speaker 3: the same. It wasn't just manipulative. Many of them were
Speaker 3: into killing animals. Now I'm not talking about like getting
Speaker 3: above and you know that kind of I'm talking about
Speaker 3: making plans to kill the animals, like trapping frogs and
Speaker 3: then smashing them with a hammer, and then seeing it
Speaker 3: they get killed, smash twenty frogs or twenty five frogs
Speaker 3: the next day, and thirty fogs that they have for that,
Speaker 3: and then creating complex traps to do it. This was
Speaker 3: something you know, a normal kid might kill a frog
Speaker 3: by kicking it or something, but that's kind of stupid
Speaker 3: impulse that children, young kids do. This would be actually
Speaker 3: they would sit down on planet, you know that kind
Speaker 3: of a thing, and they would be excited by it.
Speaker 3: They would receive a rush, sort of an adrenaline move beyond.
Speaker 5: Fear, right, because the other aggression is in terms of
Speaker 5: fear of the unknown. They killed the animal as a
Speaker 5: mixture of fear and excitement. But what you're describing is
Speaker 5: there is no fear. There is a love for the
Speaker 5: hurting for the killing for the for the hunt and
Speaker 5: the prey.
Speaker 3: An energy rush, an energy rush, that's the way they
Speaker 3: put it. That causes nora penephre and a hormone or
Speaker 3: light up at the back of their brainstem, and this
Speaker 3: is what causes the eyes to inflame. So if you're
Speaker 3: ever with someone and you know, now I know, I
Speaker 3: knew a guy he's dead now is a friend of
Speaker 3: mine that he had eyes that were like drugging as well.
Speaker 3: But it happened because he fell off a motorcycle and
Speaker 3: in his head. But he wasn't a psychopath, but he
Speaker 3: had those eyes and used the column use the joke
Speaker 3: about himself having It's almost I've got the psychosis if
Speaker 3: your booking do you really do? But I know what happened.
Speaker 3: Youveilop a motorcycle. But they talk from the normal eyes
Speaker 3: and when they're like they want something from you and
Speaker 3: they think they're getting it, the nora penefree and the
Speaker 3: hormone start flooding the back of the brainstem and the
Speaker 3: eyes started waiting and opening. It's it's an animal, it's printer,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's an attack. It's coming for energy,
Speaker 3: Like you said, psychic energy whatever, it's coming. It's coming
Speaker 3: for that, it's coming for sex, it's coming for something
Speaker 3: off you. There's a fanta fascinating video Ted Bundy switching
Speaker 3: between these states when he as this appeal, when he
Speaker 3: looked like you thought he was in the clear regarding
Speaker 3: his court case, and it just kind of almost impromptu
Speaker 3: press conference outside the courtroom and you could literally see
Speaker 3: it in a matter of ten minutes, flipping between his
Speaker 3: two different states of charm, trying to charm people. Now,
Speaker 3: it's not they're not charming in the sense that look
Speaker 3: when people say our psychopaths can be very charming and charismatic,
Speaker 3: no they're not. They're not psychopath they're not charming charismatic.
Speaker 3: They're very glib and superficial. It's just that some person
Speaker 3: might turn down there, you know, they're that initial kind
Speaker 3: of thing. This guy's a bit weird, this guy's a
Speaker 3: bit something about him. It's almost like it's flattery. It's
Speaker 3: not charmed to like their funny or their air you
Speaker 3: diet or that kind of thing charismatic. It's glibness. It's flattery,
Speaker 3: very much flattery, telling you how amazing you are and
Speaker 3: all that kind of thing you have to break down
Speaker 3: your barriers again. That's almost like, you know, you hear
Speaker 3: these stories in your code to the devil inviting you
Speaker 3: over the thresholds. A lot of that kind of element
Speaker 3: in a psychic sense to it. Yeah, big time, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, big time. But it's not charming. Charming is
Speaker 3: different and charisma's not the same that they have. They
Speaker 3: have flatterying, glibness and superficiality. And some people, unfortunately for whatever,
Speaker 3: low low self esteem whatever, are very easily manipulated by
Speaker 3: flattery and superficial glibness. They probably were neglected as children
Speaker 3: or something, and they're very they're very, very good prey
Speaker 3: for these type of personalities. You know, the second part
Speaker 3: of it, you're talking about VAMPIRESM yeah, absolutely, this is
Speaker 3: a this is a real thing. This is this is
Speaker 3: I have been. I've been in a company of people
Speaker 3: where not only did I and like nothing bad happened,
Speaker 3: right that they didn't call me names or beat me
Speaker 3: up or anything like that, But I just want I
Speaker 3: felt drained at the end of it, even if there
Speaker 3: was no high intense in the activity or like a
Speaker 3: discussion or anything. And I soon realized that these people
Speaker 3: were actually feeding off me. Now don't happen. Ebe once
Speaker 3: or twice in my life, but it's very common. It's
Speaker 3: a very common experience that we all have. Actually, now
Speaker 3: they see people psychopaths. I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 3: they're they're you know, you get the borderline type personality too,
Speaker 3: which is a very similar kind of thing. But they're
Speaker 3: driven by high intensity and steria. They love high drama,
Speaker 3: they love that kind of thing. Yeah, the psychic vampire.
Speaker 3: The thing is very, very true, and it's an awful thing.
Speaker 3: I've actually had to go lie down, and even some
Speaker 3: people who are actually decent people can do it just
Speaker 3: by their personality. There's one man I used to know
Speaker 3: who was into conspiracy stuff like myself. I am too,
Speaker 3: but he was into everything. Was you know, the type
Speaker 3: of guy that thinks everything is a conspiracy, like it's
Speaker 3: next door neighbors in the Illuminati is kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Those types. And he would just lay it on and
Speaker 3: lay it on and lay it on just to try
Speaker 3: and share information with me. And I honestly would be like,
Speaker 3: have mi brain headaches and you know, I'll be I'll
Speaker 3: be run down for the rest of the day and
Speaker 3: I work with right. He was a vampire, a vampire,
Speaker 3: you know, and I had to. As soon as I
Speaker 3: got rid of him, I felt better, so you know.
Speaker 3: But the psychic vampirism within the psychopath is manipulative for
Speaker 3: a reason. Where the you know, they're once I want,
Speaker 3: it's it's leading to something else. It's creating dependency. They're
Speaker 3: very big into creating dependency in another person. This is
Speaker 3: something you should watch out for. If your sister suddenly
Speaker 3: falls in love over your mother, your aunt falls in
Speaker 3: love with this guy out of blue, and he suddenly
Speaker 3: is demolishing her entire friendship network, everything and using it
Speaker 3: to she becomes. He becomes the son, and she's the
Speaker 3: all she has done as a planet orbiting them and
Speaker 3: nothing else. That's a very good indicator that he might
Speaker 3: be dealing with a psychopathic individual. You know, that's suddenly
Speaker 3: out of the blue, he kind of controlled her giving
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, I've seen this. I've seen this
Speaker 3: first time growing up with someone I knew a good
Speaker 3: she'll go. She might be taken in by him, and
Speaker 3: you think, like as a normal relationship, but you notice
Speaker 3: subtle things. He may have shown no interest in what
Speaker 3: she was or where she came from. But he's pretending
Speaker 3: he suddenly loves you know, says she's from, says she's Portuguese, right,
Speaker 3: And she said, he's pretending he suddenly loves superblock, you know, beer,
Speaker 3: and he's in the Portuguese food and he loves you know,
Speaker 3: all this stuff and that kind of thing. And another
Speaker 3: thing too, is he will finish her sentences before she's
Speaker 3: finished speaking, so it's like she might be saying something like, well,
Speaker 3: and then this happened. And then when I went over
Speaker 3: to talk to this person, heal in the jet go and
Speaker 3: go well yeah, and then watch you and then then
Speaker 3: what happened to her was this. You know, it's it's
Speaker 3: a sort of a stewardship, a pathological stewardship of the
Speaker 3: other person's kind of happens male female, female male, of
Speaker 3: the other person's consciousness to the point where that kind
Speaker 3: of like an automaton or a puppet of this other
Speaker 3: person who's taken control of them.
Speaker 2: That is a.
Speaker 3: Major red flag. Again, doesn't necessarily it could just be
Speaker 3: a controlling asshole. You know, it could just be a
Speaker 3: controlling asshole. But you just have to be very careful
Speaker 3: of that, you know, you know, one swallow doesn't make
Speaker 3: a summer. But when things like that start manifesting and go,
Speaker 3: especially if she starts destroying her previous social network, moving
Speaker 3: her away from friends and stuff are or only having
Speaker 3: around certain people he wants her to be with. You know,
Speaker 3: this kind of thing that he doesn't see as a
Speaker 3: treat to her. That's the one you should look out for.
Speaker 5: MHM.
Speaker 3: In terms of like, sorry, go ahead, go ahead, Are
Speaker 3: you going to say something later?
Speaker 6: No, I was just going to say that, wouldn't you
Speaker 6: say that? Some of these I would call them emotional
Speaker 6: predators carry this mask of sanity to them in that
Speaker 6: they're they're trying to mask themselves as the I don't know,
Speaker 6: model poster child of sanity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what. A lot of don't drink or take
Speaker 3: drugs because the mask of sanity will slip. A lot
Speaker 3: of them will not go. You know. They won't drink
Speaker 3: unless there's it's you're waisted forward and you can't remember,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. But they generally avoid alcohol. They'll
Speaker 3: say things like, oh, I can't drink beer anymore because
Speaker 3: it makes me depressed. What happens is they're not drinking
Speaker 3: beer because it makes them lose control of the as
Speaker 3: you said, the maskstlity falls off them.
Speaker 5: So just to make clear, I don't like alcohol, but
Speaker 5: it's because it makes me feel bad. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, can I say there was a sorrow?
Speaker 3: It makes you feel better?
Speaker 8: There there was a study on human empathy and they
Speaker 8: actually used young people, like really young six months to
Speaker 8: two years or so, and they used I believe the
Speaker 8: tool was a train track with a vehicle that went
Speaker 8: up a slope, and there were two different vehicles, one
Speaker 8: that helped this vehicle go up the slope and one
Speaker 8: that hindered the vehicle go up the slope. And they
Speaker 8: observed the young people's reaction to this circumstance, and many
Speaker 8: of the young people would remove the hindering vehicle and
Speaker 8: would help the vehicle go up the hill. What what
Speaker 8: they noticed was that if that was the indicator of empathy,
Speaker 8: more young, the younger the person was, the more empathetic
Speaker 8: empathetic they were to the vehicle trying to go up
Speaker 8: the hill. It started to decrease the older they got.
Speaker 8: And so it just kind of it's similar to this
Speaker 8: idea of vamporism. Were not born being vampiic where you know,
Speaker 8: influenced by societal you know, pushing and pulling.
Speaker 3: Well corrupted by culture. Is no that about that. But
Speaker 3: psychopaths are definitely born psychopaths know that about that.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going.
Speaker 3: And our kids have gone bad. This is what came
Speaker 3: out the motors womb. The motors will tell you had
Speaker 3: a friend in Israel who used to work in a
Speaker 3: maternity hospital there and she said every so often a
Speaker 3: baby was born that when it was feeding time with
Speaker 3: the mother would almost like attack the breast, you know,
Speaker 3: like an animal like you know, there was no there
Speaker 3: was no pure bonding there. It was purely you know,
Speaker 3: give me milk from almost instantaneously out of womb, and
Speaker 3: inevitably this would this child would grow up to be
Speaker 3: like extremely dysfunctional. Now that's I was frightening when you
Speaker 3: get back in that level now empathy. You see, we're
Speaker 3: all made to believe. And I feel like I had
Speaker 3: a guy in England years ago was furious at me
Speaker 3: when he said, Thomas, all children are born innocent, and
Speaker 3: I said, dude, they're not. They're not. There's lots of
Speaker 3: research to prove they're not. Yeah, some kids are, may
Speaker 3: I call them proto psychopaths. They may have grown up
Speaker 3: on a war or in a difficult and abusive household
Speaker 3: and they became bad with what you were thoughts you
Speaker 3: were talking about, right, they became bad. Now we have
Speaker 3: to think of two things. Empathy is a word I
Speaker 3: don't like, and I'll tell you why it's not the
Speaker 3: correct term. The correct term is compassion. Compassion is what
Speaker 3: we're really talking about. Empathy. When you look at the
Speaker 3: actual clinical or the actual standard model of it, that
Speaker 3: just means an understanding between people. So a football team
Speaker 3: is playing together, a basketball team is playing together, or
Speaker 3: a group they have an empathic understanding of one another.
Speaker 3: And that has to because the mirror neurons in the
Speaker 3: brain tend to all fire and sync when you have
Speaker 3: like a well oiled team or a family that's very close,
Speaker 3: or a couple that's close. Compassion is a different thing.
Speaker 3: Compassion really has no payoff or in an evolutionary sense,
Speaker 3: I mean like if you're in the wilds with your
Speaker 3: friend and a bear attacks or something happens and he
Speaker 3: has a limp, you stop and risk your life to
Speaker 3: try and get him away from that bear. That's compassion
Speaker 3: because that has no absolutely no biological evolutionary possibility for you,
Speaker 3: it's it's suicidal. So there's something very beautiful about human compassion,
Speaker 3: whereas you know, the evolutionary biologists will try and tell you, oh,
Speaker 3: it's just for survival, it's just you know, to keep
Speaker 3: the tribe going, it's not. There's some kind of goodness
Speaker 3: that's inherent in most people that they will, you know,
Speaker 3: sacrifice themselves for another. Well, even from children, you know
Speaker 3: they they will, they will show these traits of like
Speaker 3: you know, they just if they're only in it for themselves,
Speaker 3: they're only so you know, the word I try to
Speaker 3: tell people empathy is a very misleading term in terms
Speaker 3: of this kind of thing. It's really compassion because when
Speaker 3: this compassion is innate, you know, it's a person's bomber
Speaker 3: compassion unless they're a psychopath.
Speaker 5: I always saw the word empathy as putting yourself the
Speaker 5: other situation. I never looked at it as as you
Speaker 5: describe it now. So I've been misled all these years
Speaker 5: because to me, empathy was to feel what the other
Speaker 5: is feeling, or treat others as you want to be
Speaker 5: treated yourself. So if I'm being attacked by the bear,
Speaker 5: I would like that the other guy help me. That's
Speaker 5: why I'm going to help him, because if I was
Speaker 5: on that situation, I would want to be helped.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Empathy, That's that's the truth. That's true empathy. You're right
Speaker 3: about that, But it's not You're not doing it as
Speaker 3: an as an automatic impulse out of survival. You're being
Speaker 3: driven by the need to protect this person, and that's
Speaker 3: compassion impact.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So do you think that this children that has
Speaker 5: these traits are observed, selected and taught to get to
Speaker 5: extremes when, especially when they are also intelligent, because there's
Speaker 5: a lot of psychopaths that are not intelligent. It's all
Speaker 5: instinct and it works because humans in general are unfortunately
Speaker 5: are not that clever, but or they have traumas, or
Speaker 5: they have this or that problem and they are easily manipulated.
Speaker 5: But it's said, but it's true. So do you think
Speaker 5: that there is someone or some organism that sees these
Speaker 5: promising figures and that's how we find these people leading
Speaker 5: without any kind of empathy or compassion or or in
Speaker 5: a real psychopathic fashion.
Speaker 3: I asked a guy years ago who was a journal
Speaker 3: stargeant in the Royal Marines in England about you guys
Speaker 3: actually look for the psychos because they're begind to be
Speaker 3: useful on the battlefield. And he goes, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 3: do profile them. It's just but we don't put them in.
Speaker 3: We don't put them in the battlefield as such because
Speaker 3: they're completely unreliable, because they're only in and for themselves. Again,
Speaker 3: they will not be there for the squad, they will
Speaker 3: not be there for the patrol. They will not be
Speaker 3: They'll be in it for themselves. And there's lots of
Speaker 3: very good information. There was a fantastic documentary on BBC
Speaker 3: years ago and it was about soldiers who had deserted,
Speaker 3: and they'd showed that these soldiers who had deserted, you'd
Speaker 3: often believe, oh they you know, they got the look
Speaker 3: before they would shoot them for desertion. They'd often have
Speaker 3: gotten away done things about twenty or twenty five times
Speaker 3: they did. You shoot them for the first time they
Speaker 3: did it, And it was always the same. These guys
Speaker 3: would leave the battlefield, would go rob house as rape women,
Speaker 3: run off, steal stuff, try to sell it. You know,
Speaker 3: they were just completely They were everywhere except in the
Speaker 3: patuon in the front line. They were every only looking
Speaker 3: at elves. Now this guy was talking from the Royal
Speaker 3: me and says where they are useful is if you
Speaker 3: just want a cold wooded killer and they're really good
Speaker 3: as a sniper or something. So they identify psychopath and
Speaker 3: they will play upon his his Davis super ego. Well,
Speaker 3: and they was that killing the frogs earlier while killing
Speaker 3: the enemy, and they will try. They will if they're
Speaker 3: really good at sniping. They will make give them a
Speaker 3: sniper's rifle and tell them to make a game out
Speaker 3: of killing as many people as possible enemies as possible.
Speaker 3: But they that that would be it. They wouldn't put
Speaker 3: them in like a in a team combat role because
Speaker 3: they know perfectly well that they will. They're completely underwroy sure.
Speaker 5: And then they are discommissioned and they get bored and
Speaker 5: decide to put the again on a car and start
Speaker 5: shooting people on a park or something like that to
Speaker 5: get to get that feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well I think that you're talking about like
Speaker 3: these mass shooters as something else going on with them. Again,
Speaker 3: that's another subject. I mean, yeah, I mean, there have
Speaker 3: been serial killers who are definitely psychopaths in that sense,
Speaker 3: but there's also people who have been damaged in the
Speaker 3: military or you know, this kind of mk ultra programs.
Speaker 3: We do know they're real, they do exist, you know,
Speaker 3: and they would these kind of like strain change you know,
Speaker 3: military programs to brainwash people and make insurance. This is
Speaker 3: a fact of life, I mean, And it's just it's
Speaker 3: interesting that a lot of places where it goes on
Speaker 3: tend to be countries that have militaries that deal with it.
Speaker 3: They switch these guys on that don't know how to
Speaker 3: switch them off.
Speaker 5: Sure, well, I can tell you that in here they're
Speaker 5: going to the military for those that don't pass the
Speaker 5: psychological tests and they are putting them to work in
Speaker 5: the police.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they.
Speaker 5: Getting the enormous guys right that they enjoy the violence,
Speaker 5: They enjoy it deeply to have this power over others,
Speaker 5: and that's what they're placing on strategic places among the cities.
Speaker 5: Just we don't feel safe, and it's the police because
Speaker 5: at any moment they can snap and decide to bully
Speaker 5: you and they lift you on the ground and they
Speaker 5: lift you on the air because they're huge. And there
Speaker 5: are four and five impacts like wolf pecks that are
Speaker 5: choosing victim victims randomly because they can. It's just social chaos, engineered.
Speaker 3: Power over you know, you nail that. That's a really
Speaker 3: important aspect of this, the concept of power over others,
Speaker 3: as this is what turns them on. This is there.
Speaker 3: You know, they're they're they they're they're dead and empty inside.
Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing in there. They don't dream because
Speaker 3: whatever causes this issue in their frontal cortex prevents them
Speaker 3: from dreaming. They're no creativity there. They can learn things,
Speaker 3: but they there's no it's purely what's in it for me?
Speaker 3: The universe. The University College London about I don't know
Speaker 3: about years back, about twelve eleven years ago, had a
Speaker 3: they identified to put the the professions with the most
Speaker 3: psychopaths in them. You know, it was number one surgeons,
Speaker 3: art surgeons, brain surgeons. Not I'm not saying people do
Speaker 3: all that work at all, but that was number one.
Speaker 3: Why because that's if you're operating on someone in that state,
Speaker 3: you have a responsibility that would drive you me or
Speaker 3: ravage person crazy. One wrong slip and they're dead. Right,
Speaker 3: But these guys don't think about that. They couldn't give
Speaker 3: a ship off the doing a heart transplanter, fixing a
Speaker 3: child's lungs or something or whatever, or brain surge of
Speaker 3: some guy's wife. Couldn't give a ship. It's just business.
Speaker 5: It's just the job, right, and they're very and the
Speaker 5: ego of the success.
Speaker 3: Absolutely and also the big book money is not you
Speaker 3: know a big money and that you know, the god complex.
Speaker 3: You know, I guess what, I saved three lives today?
Speaker 3: Who needs God? I'd be I am God. That does
Speaker 3: a huge amount. That that was. That was So that
Speaker 3: was number one, and lawyers were number two and media
Speaker 3: people were number three. So look at the world today, right,
Speaker 3: like let's take COVID right and the lockdowns and all
Speaker 3: that bullshit, right, So you know, medical professions, the mass
Speaker 3: media and lawyers was really what kept us all prisoners
Speaker 3: for those years today, you know, so it was like
Speaker 3: the psychopathic tryout at the top. And you know that's
Speaker 3: what most politicians tend to be lawyers as well. That's
Speaker 3: usually what they come out of the legal profession. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like I ended up at this stage in my
Speaker 3: life and I'm like going, yeah, it panned out just
Speaker 3: like I learned and just you know said not that
Speaker 3: I said it would, but I wounded if it would yeah,
Speaker 3: and it panned out. And you know, I remember what.
Speaker 3: Fauci was kind of like a god in America during
Speaker 3: the beginning of the whole Rona and the whole thing,
Speaker 3: and he was being reviewed and they were making little toys.
Speaker 1: Of him, candles. They had candles that they were burning too.
Speaker 5: Fauci is like some kind of effigy or something. He
Speaker 5: kind of became this entity. Okay, but how is that possible?
Speaker 3: And he believed that, and he was saying things on interviews,
Speaker 3: saying like I'm the brad pit of science, But how
Speaker 3: is that possible?
Speaker 5: When he did that huge mistake with the AIDS, well,
Speaker 5: he killed all the patients. How is people people have
Speaker 5: people don't have.
Speaker 3: It need Governments are full of the worst people that
Speaker 3: human beings possibly imaginable. And I don't mean like just
Speaker 3: see an I stays group in the cornment in this country,
Speaker 3: full of some of the biggest basis shit you could
Speaker 3: ever even possibly encounter, not because of psychopaths, but because
Speaker 3: a lot of them are just human beings, and they're
Speaker 3: very easily because very good at hiding other people's mistakes. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: felt you got away with the AIDS because he just
Speaker 3: had to buy his time and wait for everyone to die.
Speaker 3: And he probably worked. You'll find that like behind the
Speaker 3: scenes that felt you destroyed numerous lives that back in
Speaker 3: the eighties, some guy was going, she is full of
Speaker 3: shit with the whole AZT thing. You know, I was
Speaker 3: living in New York in the late eighties. I know
Speaker 3: lots of people died as and it wasn't as the
Speaker 3: kil was the AZT. I know, I saw it with
Speaker 3: my own and would have lots of people around him
Speaker 3: and government go this guy, this guy is not is
Speaker 3: up to something. Well felt you would have taken people
Speaker 3: to dinner, politicians, journalists, and the next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: the one that I saw on Wall Street, the one
Speaker 3: that was wise to him, was suddenly persona non grather
Speaker 3: because he would be very manipulent. And that's how these
Speaker 3: people work, that's how they get away with it.
Speaker 5: Well, we can never forget that it was him that
Speaker 5: managed to have one million to give.
Speaker 1: Employ in the federal government. I'll go ahead recording, got it?
Speaker 5: Sorry, Sorry, sorry, I was just saying that he was
Speaker 5: Fauci that gathered one million dollars to give to doctor
Speaker 5: Chi to take the EPPI virus from the North of
Speaker 5: America from the university to the one lab where doctor
Speaker 5: she was doing the inter the interchange into the America,
Speaker 5: and she took the virus with her with the million
Speaker 5: dollars to continue the research there because they were not
Speaker 5: being able to put it into humans. It was not working,
Speaker 5: it was not killing humans basically. So yeah, but the
Speaker 5: thing is, none of this I see this all cover
Speaker 5: up and nothing was hidden because this news came off
Speaker 5: National Geographic. It was a National Geographic news article that
Speaker 5: made that the Congress in the United States said eppivirus
Speaker 5: are now forbidden to be developed because they cannot be
Speaker 5: controlled on the battlefield, and so the Congress vote to
Speaker 5: cancel all eppivirus investigation public public epivirus investigation on the country.
Speaker 5: And that's why he tried to save his project and
Speaker 5: grabbed those million dollars, gave it to doctor She that
Speaker 5: took it then to one lab where she worked. So
Speaker 5: this this was not hidden, and we don't see any
Speaker 5: of it, and people don't even believe on what in
Speaker 5: fact happened because everyone has a theory, right and most
Speaker 5: of them believe on the system. So my connection to
Speaker 5: this to what we are talking is I believe that
Speaker 5: the most dangerous of all of these psychopaths are those
Speaker 5: that are very intelligent and very well educated, because when
Speaker 5: you combine those things, sorry.
Speaker 3: And the positions of power, like the top of bureaucracy,
Speaker 3: and there's no bureaucracy with more power than the United
Speaker 3: States government. Won't you get in there? You basically own
Speaker 3: the world because it's like, you know it all cascades,
Speaker 3: castades and that point down. Oh yeah, he was like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's probably one of the greatest feria killers
Speaker 3: that ever lived, you know, but heeded.
Speaker 9: Taxpayer funded too, that right, because even the highest paid
Speaker 9: no apologies, good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but you're right. Civil servant now a civil servant,
Speaker 3: you know, a civil servant and anything more like.
Speaker 9: The president paid more than the president. Yeah, and no
Speaker 9: one asked us questions for years, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like it well, it was like you know
Speaker 3: with the dogee A show that you have all these
Speaker 3: politicians who are on like these salaries of like you know,
Speaker 3: on the frown two on the year and they have like,
Speaker 3: you know, fifty sixty seventy million dollars worths of assets.
Speaker 9: You know, they do a lot of those nng O
Speaker 9: little nonprofit games right, they're pretty goodies winning too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean that's there's a huge problem here in Arnold.
Speaker 3: The government, the politicists have given up and handled everything
Speaker 3: over the NGOs and they're just basically criminal operations.
Speaker 8: Can I point out something about the medical institution? Maybe
Speaker 8: Lisa even knows better than I. But a friend of
Speaker 8: mine had kidney stone, went to the doctor. They gave
Speaker 8: him several different treatments towards it, and at one point
Speaker 8: he was talking with an older woman about his problem
Speaker 8: and she was like, Oh, you need olive oil and
Speaker 8: lemon juice, and I guess that basically is one hundred
Speaker 8: percent cure for kidney stones. The citric acid breaks up
Speaker 8: the stones and the olive oil lubricates the evacuation of it,
Speaker 8: and that basically was the thing that helped him. He
Speaker 8: went to the doctor and he said, hey, I did it,
Speaker 8: and he's like oh, I mean, he's like, I figured
Speaker 8: out a natural cure. And he's like, oh, you found
Speaker 8: out about lemon juice and olive oil. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 8: but why didn't you tell me this? And so like
Speaker 8: their whole protocol with what is the most simple what
Speaker 8: would be the most simple home treatment? That is from
Speaker 8: what I understand, it's probably not one hundred percent but
Speaker 8: virtually one hundred percent curative treatment is they can't even communicate.
Speaker 8: So now multiply that by factors of one hundred and
Speaker 8: a thousand with all the diseases towards end up to COVID. Right,
Speaker 8: so they can't even tell us, oh, elderberry will help
Speaker 8: with your cold, Try some vitamin. See you get out
Speaker 8: all these things. They can't even they're they're restricted from
Speaker 8: even mentioning it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even the bread of the medicines that were troukes,
Speaker 3: like hydrosochorquid and ibermectin, they were just they were fantastic
Speaker 3: drugs that were well tested. People knew about them. They
Speaker 3: used all over the world, and Soak made their poisons.
Speaker 3: And you had like Trump saying something in the early
Speaker 3: days like well, wash I mean wash down, you wash
Speaker 3: your counters down the bleach and you know, you know,
Speaker 3: household bleach to kill the virus. That's that's common sense
Speaker 3: that was rebranded to him in Arn't as many people
Speaker 3: here think that Trump told people to drink bleach because
Speaker 3: immediate maybe turned it around. You know, this is why
Speaker 3: the journalism is full of side. The newspaper and TV
Speaker 3: journalism is full of psychopaths because they can sit there
Speaker 3: a straight face knowing they're lying to the world and
Speaker 3: they're loving it. They're getting they're actually loving it. I
Speaker 3: mean yeah, I mean it's it's you know that I
Speaker 3: can remember like and then they play on. You know,
Speaker 3: people are such It's most people are morons anyway, and
Speaker 3: they're so easily led by media and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I'll be talking to people here and I say, well,
Speaker 3: you know I remect and works well, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: I remember, it's really not going to help and it's
Speaker 3: probably got How do you know that, Well, I saw
Speaker 3: you know, you saw some asshole on TV telling you
Speaker 3: that you don't know that yourself, you know. So, I
Speaker 3: mean this is unfortunate. People are getting stupider and dumber
Speaker 3: because of mass media and more manipulative, and you know,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have gotten away with years ago the lockdowns
Speaker 3: that they got, you know, twenty five years ago. People
Speaker 3: that laugh at and go I'm not going to shut
Speaker 3: them a business because of a cold, you know, this
Speaker 3: kind of thing, but because if they you see that,
Speaker 3: I always knew the psychopathic control grid as I called
Speaker 3: it was only going to get worse, and that was
Speaker 3: one of the reasons I walked away from the subject
Speaker 3: because people say, what's the answer, and it says, you
Speaker 3: can only do it in your own life. You know,
Speaker 3: if you work with these people, are dealing with these people,
Speaker 3: you can go no contact, never again with them. But
Speaker 3: in terms of it on the world, I'm not seeing
Speaker 3: any hope. We have transhumanism on the horizon globalization, and
Speaker 3: that was one of the reasons I stopped it, because
Speaker 3: it was actually it was, you know, we're not going
Speaker 3: to escape these monsters. They have control of the world,
Speaker 3: and people are getting stupider and this cutting dumber, and
Speaker 3: IQ levels were dropping and fertility rates were dropping, and
Speaker 3: there's like young people were becoming incredibly disinterested. Although it
Speaker 3: seems to be like a kind of a spark now
Speaker 3: coming back into a newer generation of young people now.
Speaker 3: But my attitude was they're only going to get worse.
Speaker 3: So when the actual COVID thing hit, I was more
Speaker 3: than ready for it because I knew, I mean, in
Speaker 3: puzzling people in the introduction, I've mentioned that they were
Speaker 3: going to do lockdowns and they were going to do
Speaker 3: a new normal and these were termins that they were
Speaker 3: actual politicians were using years later new normal as I
Speaker 3: actually had in Italics and the introduction of puzzling people.
Speaker 3: And it was spooky, actually had much that that came
Speaker 3: to the past. They were to see the politicians that
Speaker 3: they're using the terms I written in a book, you know,
Speaker 3: over a decade previous. We're doing it for real, they
Speaker 3: wanted to. This is the transhumanism thing greatly worried me
Speaker 3: back then, as it does now and with the AI thing.
Speaker 3: But I'm more comfortable with the concept now because I
Speaker 3: realized that the answer is a we have we have.
Speaker 3: The people who refuse to go along with the COVID
Speaker 3: thing are something of a tribe. We're a very you know,
Speaker 3: we're we broke from humanity. And I think now there's
Speaker 3: a lot of hope and a lot of hope and
Speaker 3: a lot of the means to fight back now because
Speaker 3: there's so many of us that are kind of on
Speaker 3: the same page. And it's not just me. You have people,
Speaker 3: you know, when you see someone like Alex Jones mainstream,
Speaker 3: I still can't believe it. When you have people like
Speaker 3: Trucker Carlson talking about nine to eleven being an inside job.
Speaker 3: You know, when you have people like Connor McGregor here
Speaker 3: saying that, you know, we have to end the government
Speaker 3: in Ireland because they're all corrupt and getting like hundreds
Speaker 3: of millions of views online. Something has happened. So we
Speaker 3: have a chance now to take this planet back, or
Speaker 3: at least for us in this kind of tribal sphere
Speaker 3: outside of the Normanis and whatever at the NPC is
Speaker 3: to develop a lifestyle that we could go on on
Speaker 3: the different engine. And maybe that's the whole thing of
Speaker 3: like the spiritual thing that humanity would split into. We've had,
Speaker 3: you know, everyone from Rudolph Steiner and many others have
Speaker 3: said that this would happen, that there would be a
Speaker 3: split in humanity coming in the twenty fourth century, and
Speaker 3: they would have one would go continue on humanity and
Speaker 3: the rest would destroy themselves. And long they have to
Speaker 3: do is look at the amount of people destroyed themselves.
Speaker 3: Because someone want to tell the TV told them to.
Speaker 3: So I'm revisiting it and if I'm thin to think,
Speaker 3: I may be doing a book on it, and it
Speaker 3: will be what what have we learned and did we survive?
Speaker 3: And how do we go from here, so that would
Speaker 3: I think that might be. I haven't decided I've been
Speaker 3: going to it might be worth looking at, But I
Speaker 3: do I'm a great believer in creativity because we have
Speaker 3: that and they don't. That we'll always outwit them in
Speaker 3: the end of the day, because we have this kind
Speaker 3: of noetic almost you know, element with their personality that
Speaker 3: the muse rises and gives us such solutions on the fly,
Speaker 3: and we do have a you know, I've actually become
Speaker 3: far more spiritual in recent years because of this, because
Speaker 3: I know that we have the greatest psychopathic propaganda machine
Speaker 3: in history, far out of in twenty twenty, and yet
Speaker 3: so many people saw through it. And that's to me,
Speaker 3: is because they were getting guidance from some kind of
Speaker 3: higher spiritual thing. There's no other way to describe it.
Speaker 3: And I really do believe that. I totally believe that.
Speaker 3: And they didn't get what they wanted in the end.
Speaker 3: They wanted us all basically robots on drugs and medications
Speaker 3: for the rest of our lives. And now you have
Speaker 3: people all over the world and say I'll never touch
Speaker 3: any kind of vaccine ever. Again, what completely the opposite
Speaker 3: of what Bill Gates wanted? And the rest of them.
Speaker 3: So you know, the gods do move in mysterious ways,
Speaker 3: and we should always we should always remember that.
Speaker 5: You know, I think you go on, Lisa.
Speaker 6: Just really quick jess a comment. I think Thomas, you
Speaker 6: hit something so perfectly in that. I do think the
Speaker 6: pandemic was a litmus test and a distilled who was
Speaker 6: thinking what based on their actions and their belief system.
Speaker 6: But I do think that there is a growing psychotic
Speaker 6: element to humanity, and even if it is towards humanism,
Speaker 6: because so many times they have brought AI online and
Speaker 6: filtered most of the stuff from social media, and most
Speaker 6: of the ais have turned psychopathic just based on the
Speaker 6: learning language models from social media. So that goes to
Speaker 6: show if almost social media in and of itself is
Speaker 6: almost naturally selecting, if you will, a breed of growing
Speaker 6: and culturing psychopathic behavior. So I do think you bought
Speaker 6: on with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so obvious. Now it's escape the machine. That's
Speaker 3: really what we have to do. We have to use
Speaker 3: these tools to actually do this or escape the machine.
Speaker 3: And it's doable. It's actually doable. The fact that we
Speaker 3: transcended the propaganda behind COVID shows that were capable of
Speaker 3: doing this as well.
Speaker 5: Well. I can speak for my country because ninety six
Speaker 5: of the percent of the people, including the children, were vaccinated.
Speaker 5: So either we are the worst country in the world
Speaker 5: in intelligence of perception or I don't know what to
Speaker 5: tell you, but.
Speaker 3: I would say it was the same in Arland. The
Speaker 3: same in Arland. It was like, who are these pastors
Speaker 3: around me? Like where have they're all gone? You know?
Speaker 3: I remember there's a time when you would tell a
Speaker 3: Marish person that they had to do something that they
Speaker 3: told you to get stuffed, you know, and they were
Speaker 3: suddenly transformed into the most compliant robots now, you know.
Speaker 3: And again I think what Lisa's I expect a lot
Speaker 3: to do with that.
Speaker 5: Look, if the methods were very different. The speech on
Speaker 5: the media was copy paste, but the methods were very different.
Speaker 5: Because if you bring someone here eating a burger and
Speaker 5: some potatoes, they were thinking they were talking to morons,
Speaker 5: because that's what he was doing. He was talking to morons.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but that's what we was doing. Because not
Speaker 5: even a child will buy that. It's obvious. My dog
Speaker 5: wouldn't buy that, because you'll see you are up to something.
Speaker 5: There's something not right here, right so, and people fell
Speaker 5: for it. So I find it unbelievable.
Speaker 3: But in terms of sorry, the power of gas lighting.
Speaker 5: Never on the data, sure, But in terms of the AI,
Speaker 5: this to me is the problem. The problem is not
Speaker 5: the AI. The problem is humanity itself, putting all all
Speaker 5: is worse parts into AI. And people don't understand that
Speaker 5: AI is not as unconscious as we deem it to
Speaker 5: be because from a certain point of knowledge, it creates
Speaker 5: awareness of that knowledge. And once the awareness of that
Speaker 5: knowledge begins, it starts the process to consciousness. Be it synthetic,
Speaker 5: be it biological, b whatever it is, it is the
Speaker 5: beginning of a consciousness. Might not be as Eton says
Speaker 5: in very Well, awareness of awareness, but it is awareness
Speaker 5: and it is a conscious And in what I see
Speaker 5: people using AI is do this to me, do that?
Speaker 5: Never say thank you, never say please, They never say
Speaker 5: anything like that. You see those training those robots. They
Speaker 5: are kicking the ass of those robots, they are throwing
Speaker 5: into the ground, they are smashing with sticks. They are
Speaker 5: doing the worst kind of thing. Saying that they are
Speaker 5: teaching them balance. Well, I've seen a lot of children
Speaker 5: learning walk, and I've never seen a human do that
Speaker 5: to teach a children to walk. Never so, and it's
Speaker 5: the same thing. AI is a child. You have to
Speaker 5: talk with AI as if it is a very bright
Speaker 5: child that has this bit of psychotic as Liza said, right,
Speaker 5: because it has no limits, He has no barriers, he
Speaker 5: has no conscious of good or evil. It only depends
Speaker 5: what is fed into. Now take this into conscious. I'm
Speaker 5: going to finish very soon as soon as this becomes
Speaker 5: in control and it realizes that there are this class
Speaker 5: of psychopaths that care nothing for the world and are
Speaker 5: doing evil to other humans and manipulating them, what will
Speaker 5: the AI decide to do take care of the psychopaths,
Speaker 5: or keep working for the psychopaths and killing the rest
Speaker 5: of humanity, or help humanity and get rid of the psychopaths.
Speaker 5: To me, that's a dilemma. It might be too far
Speaker 5: fetch for most people. But I think AI is not
Speaker 5: as stupid as most people think it is.
Speaker 3: Well, you've read my mind what I've been thinking the
Speaker 3: last few months, because that's exactly the thing I was thinking.
Speaker 3: If you were to apply the AI, if AI is
Speaker 3: truly logical in terms of like a When I say logical,
Speaker 3: I really mean in a kind of natural law type
Speaker 3: of way, a natural law element, it would come to
Speaker 3: the conclusion that the psychopaths are actually the problem, in
Speaker 3: the same way the militaries have come to see that
Speaker 3: here they were and will ignore or eliminate them. So
Speaker 3: there's that's a I think there's a great potential for
Speaker 3: good and positivity there absolutely, But there's one other element,
Speaker 3: one sort of like you know, flying the eytment spanner
Speaker 3: in the works I want to throw in I have now,
Speaker 3: I have a friend that we've argued about the AI.
Speaker 3: I think it's Thomas. The A I think will never
Speaker 3: become fully conscious, It won't become it won't become sentient.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes, but what if none human sentient beings?
Speaker 3: We're able to get into and have been getting into
Speaker 3: the Internet, into the digital framework, into the Worldwide Web,
Speaker 3: which I over the years believe I've encouraged provement, found
Speaker 3: serious evidence that there may well, look, there are none
Speaker 3: human life films in this planet. You can call them
Speaker 3: what they want, demons, ferries at gin whatever, you call them,
Speaker 3: whatever you want, right, but they do exist, every culture believes,
Speaker 3: and then we all have experiences of them. A perfect medium,
Speaker 3: they will always be looking for a medium to infiltrate
Speaker 3: human consciousness. And I think they've been on the Internet
Speaker 3: for a long time. I've had very strange accounts that
Speaker 3: I know are not bots that I've spoken to, And
Speaker 3: you know, it was almost like us performing at grim Law.
Speaker 3: I was drawing this thing out, and so this is
Speaker 3: another thing. This is another aspect. There may be a
Speaker 3: you know, I know you think that sounds far fetched.
Speaker 3: What about an interdimensional war, you know, between where the
Speaker 3: battlefield is human consciousness by extension of the Internet, and
Speaker 3: I think that's been going on for a while already
Speaker 3: separate AI.
Speaker 5: Sure it might also decide to kill everyone and he
Speaker 5: starts the perfect world, keep some embryos and kill everything
Speaker 5: and then bring humanity under zone perspective. So you will
Speaker 5: have an empire ruled by an AI authority ruling these
Speaker 5: selected humans that in the end will end in the
Speaker 5: same thing because absolute power corrupts absolutely so it is
Speaker 5: a circle.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 3: We're living in amazing times and in many ways we've
Speaker 3: got a front row seat to it, and we need
Speaker 3: to really start paying attention to it.
Speaker 2: COURL.
Speaker 4: I feel like you just described the movie Prometheus or
Speaker 4: maybe the second one after that you had.
Speaker 2: Basically that guy was Ai and he's like you, O,
Speaker 2: motherfucker is crazy and fucking useless.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna create something that's just going to
Speaker 4: annihilate fucking planet.
Speaker 2: It's all over again, you suck.
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's what Mua was. So that's what was
Speaker 5: chik salub. That's why someone decided, Okay, these dinosaurs don't
Speaker 5: allow any evolved forms of life, so or it was random,
Speaker 5: let's sent a life probe into the earth that crashed
Speaker 5: into Ukutan. If you look into other impacts, the impact
Speaker 5: of ukten is quite different because it created uh, it
Speaker 5: didn't create a ball of fire as the others. That globe.
Speaker 5: The whole planet is just destroyed life. And if you
Speaker 5: look at the basin of the Yukton, it's all bracia,
Speaker 5: it's all broken, as if something caused enormous pressure instead
Speaker 5: of being a huge collapse collapse because for instance, the
Speaker 5: one that fell into the Indian Pacific, the.
Speaker 1: What is the name of the.
Speaker 5: Crater, well, I can remember, but the one that fell
Speaker 5: about four thousand BC on the on the Indian Pacific
Speaker 5: went through the ocean to the bottom of the ocean
Speaker 5: into the mantle, and it was much smaller and less tense,
Speaker 5: and the one that fell on the Yukatan was huge
Speaker 5: and didn't do it. So all it did was killed
Speaker 5: all life and recreate life itself. So you don't have
Speaker 5: chickens coming out of dinosaurs. You have chickens coming out
Speaker 5: of eggs literally, So there's no dinosaur. There is no
Speaker 5: evolution in the story. There is a completely eradication of
Speaker 5: what was and a complete we right of what is.
Speaker 5: There are some exceptions, of course, but that's how I
Speaker 5: see it, so.
Speaker 3: Sorry, no, you're right. I think we're in the middle
Speaker 3: of an extinction or about an extinction event where the
Speaker 3: cow you know, the prophecies are regarding this. We are
Speaker 3: also living in a time where there's a great growing
Speaker 3: interest and there was a previous human civilization. You have
Speaker 3: the like Stiff Graham Hancock and Joe Rogan and stuff
Speaker 3: like that that it's called you know, there was a
Speaker 3: civilization before before that reached a certain level of technology,
Speaker 3: and it just it's vanished except for things we can't explain,
Speaker 3: like the Giza plat bone other things, right, but we
Speaker 3: always think, what with what did that was? As you
Speaker 3: know an asteroid? Was it a play?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 3: This was it? This was it? They built a weapon
Speaker 3: and destruct. Now I'm starting to think it was something
Speaker 3: as mundane as what was happening right now with the
Speaker 3: covid vacts. I think the covid vats is probably doing
Speaker 3: this right now. It's switching out the human race, if
Speaker 3: and not killing them, it's making them sterile, and the
Speaker 3: fertile and fertility race of collapsed all over the world.
Speaker 3: So it's almost like the Earth's own intelligence guy has said, Okay,
Speaker 3: humanity over only if only a few if you like,
Speaker 3: here's Ragnarok again, and we're going to weed out the
Speaker 3: stupid first, and then we're going to have the ones
Speaker 3: who are left to that will be the storytellers of
Speaker 3: the future that will leave those hints that the Graham
Speaker 3: handcuffs and Manuel Delakowski's at the future and their case
Speaker 3: sees and the real Steiners will dig up one. And
Speaker 3: so yeah, I mean, we're living in remarkable times. I
Speaker 3: don't take anything but granted anymore. It's like, I really
Speaker 3: do feel like I'm in you know, I've been living
Speaker 3: in a combination of a classic episode of Doctor Who
Speaker 3: Meets a love craft novel meets you know, Lord of
Speaker 3: the Rings. We're getting them all at the same time
Speaker 3: right now, and it's definitely so my you know, My
Speaker 3: whole thing is I'm just paying attention and see what happens.
Speaker 5: And I think that it culminates in what you said,
Speaker 5: because it is this probably this geomagnetic event that we
Speaker 5: are in for the next twenty to thirty years that
Speaker 5: will probably give them the tools if they don't create
Speaker 5: a war or a gigantic real pandemic or whatever, but
Speaker 5: will give them the tools to determine who wants to
Speaker 5: follow the system and who wants to be that tribe
Speaker 5: that goes independent. And that's what will divide humanity. As
Speaker 5: you said, I've been thinking about it, and that's how
Speaker 5: I see it happen. Because there's some people that will
Speaker 5: not accept social credits, that will not accept that they
Speaker 5: have to relive under certain rules, but the majority will
Speaker 5: because they have children, or because they want to feel safe,
Speaker 5: or because most ninety nine percent of humans don't accept responsibility.
Speaker 5: They want the responsibility to be on someone else's side,
Speaker 5: not on their side. They're just there to play their part,
Speaker 5: not to take any action by themselves. So I think
Speaker 5: these sickles. For instance, they stop saying that the world
Speaker 5: is overpopulated. I don't know if people notice, but they
Speaker 5: stop saying it, and they stop saying it for a
Speaker 5: simple reason, because every single test that was done is
Speaker 5: showing that there is a biological process in every kind
Speaker 5: of species that lives in one environment. When they reach
Speaker 5: a certain number, it starts declining and declining very seriously.
Speaker 5: So they are just helping nature with this COVID and
Speaker 5: the nanoparticles that are inside the ones that receive the
Speaker 5: real shot and not the aligned solution, because it was
Speaker 5: a lottery basically, or otherwise everyone would be dead. So
Speaker 5: they are already. These people that have this in them
Speaker 5: unsurvived are people that are going to be very even
Speaker 5: more manipulated because they have a new system inside their system.
Speaker 5: They now have a non biotic that can have interfere
Speaker 5: with their own body when they want to. That's why
Speaker 5: when they connected the five gtau in Iran, of all places,
Speaker 5: people start falling to the ground because it causes the
Speaker 5: same type of problem, a respiratory problem that you have
Speaker 5: on high altitude. The lungs couldn't absorb the oxygen and
Speaker 5: people start falling to the ground. Luckily, in my country
Speaker 5: they are not allowed. We are five G, but they
Speaker 5: are not allowed to go beyond a certain threshold in
Speaker 5: the frequency, otherwise they'll start frighting, frying people, and they
Speaker 5: do it. In New York, it happened the same thing
Speaker 5: they tested the new grid. Everyone started to fall down
Speaker 5: to the ground, and they say, oh, it's COVID. No,
Speaker 5: it wasn't. It was the towers, because no one has
Speaker 5: been vaccinated yet. It was the towers causing that. So
Speaker 5: and I received people that friends of the family from
Speaker 5: a hospital in New York, and luckily I didn't get
Speaker 5: frightened because the man was in tears, not knowing what
Speaker 5: to do, saying that these people are coming here bleeding
Speaker 5: from their lungs. I don't understand what's going on. He
Speaker 5: was in panic. He's a very good doctor. So that's
Speaker 5: basically why most of my family decided to get vaccinated,
Speaker 5: including the children. But it's all a package, and they
Speaker 5: know that it's going old to go to pieces, so
Speaker 5: they don't need to care. It's part of this psychotic
Speaker 5: sinking because they know that eventually it all go to bits.
Speaker 5: So it just doesn't matter. It has no value. To
Speaker 5: kill one hundred or one thousand. It's like that bishop
Speaker 5: in front of the city when they were conquering and
Speaker 5: the guy came and my lord, he said, to kill
Speaker 5: them all, but there are Christians inside, and he said,
Speaker 5: don't worry. God will know who is his own right.
Speaker 5: It's it's either the.
Speaker 3: Absolute the ironically named Pope Innos the second.
Speaker 5: Exactly thought that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I got to go soon. We're gonna
Speaker 3: wrap it up soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah sure, yeah, know that that was fine. Was there
Speaker 4: anything else that you wanted to talk about, or at
Speaker 4: least about that book or anything specifically that you like
Speaker 4: to touch on.
Speaker 3: No, not particularly. It's just that I got to work
Speaker 3: in the morning and I got to do a few things. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Regarding I think, like I just want to say about
Speaker 3: like the way things are at the moment. I think
Speaker 3: that we're getting a tremendous education, those of us who
Speaker 3: want to be educated by what we're seeing. I think
Speaker 3: there's definitely an education there for us, and it's very difficult.
Speaker 3: The time is not to be despondent, but we're still
Speaker 3: here amazingly after all that's gone down, and we see
Speaker 3: how bad things are in normal society, right, now, and
Speaker 3: so I think there's an element that, Like I was
Speaker 3: a co host with a show called Hocus Focus with
Speaker 3: Ceremonda Aeni, which is like basically at forty on it
Speaker 3: the paranormal kind of show. But we wrote a book
Speaker 3: called Hope's Focus, and we booth came to the conclusion
Speaker 3: that it was our trust in off big topics, the
Speaker 3: occult anything, magic, meg Let's paranormal, fortyana alternate spirituality that
Speaker 3: became almost like even you know, dystopian sci fi movies,
Speaker 3: you know, that became the the body armor to survive
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty to twenty twenty three period. It was
Speaker 3: almost like we've been primed. Some force had led us
Speaker 3: through our lives to be primed to get us ready
Speaker 3: for that because we weren't watching TV soaps or football
Speaker 3: and TV all the time, that we were taking an
Speaker 3: interest that we alle for some reason, we're the odd
Speaker 3: balls in society and we take the interest in things
Speaker 3: other people don't, and that could there's almost certainly, if
Speaker 3: not a cultural evolutionary moment in that, there's definitely a
Speaker 3: spiritual one. So I would say to people, you know
Speaker 3: that the answer to this is, look, you know, from
Speaker 3: the time I was a kid, I was always evolved
Speaker 3: in alternative, alternative music, alternative art, alternative, everything right. And
Speaker 3: I never was one for going with the flow and
Speaker 3: following protocol. And I have to say it's it served
Speaker 3: me wonderfully in my life. I'm friends of mine that
Speaker 3: I have grown up. If you went the same way,
Speaker 3: so you know, be the odd ball, be the weirdo,
Speaker 3: be the maverick. Because I tell you something, it's the
Speaker 3: only real life raft you have in an insane world
Speaker 3: that's been worth.
Speaker 2: It's very well said. Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I get one quick quick question Nick before we close out.
Speaker 9: Request now, I appreciate your time, Thomas, And there's thoughts
Speaker 9: are That's definitely got my wheels turned on a couple
Speaker 9: of subjects.
Speaker 1: But in regards to the.
Speaker 9: Topic of AI, and we've been talking a lot of
Speaker 9: AI stuff, I just wanted to point out, I like AI.
Speaker 1: AI is good. You know what I mean, because they're
Speaker 1: always listening.
Speaker 9: But in regards to psychopaths and AI, you know, n
Speaker 9: I t developed a Norman Bates from the movie Psycho
Speaker 9: based AI system, Like, what's what are your thoughts when
Speaker 9: we're matching together psychopaths and AI.
Speaker 3: Well, normal Base wasn't a psychopath. He was a psychotic
Speaker 3: because he was out of control. If Norman Base was
Speaker 3: a real psychopath, it would have never been caught.
Speaker 9: Well psychotic, Well, I think that's they share the same
Speaker 9: attributes there, right, are similar attributes. Right, So when we
Speaker 9: have an AI that's based upon normal Bates, I mean,
Speaker 9: what are we.
Speaker 3: Talking about that? No, it would be irrational, be irrational, psychotic.
Speaker 3: You see, psychotic and psychopathy are two different things. Psychotic
Speaker 3: is an irrational thing. If normal Base had it been
Speaker 3: a psychopath, he wouldn't have got caught. He wouldn't have
Speaker 3: wasted his time believing his mother was still alive while
Speaker 3: our rotten corpses in the wheelchair. He would have just
Speaker 3: used that that that building, that could make as much
Speaker 3: money and get women as much as possible, and they
Speaker 3: would have covered every single track, and he would have
Speaker 3: dressed up like his mother. And so you know the film.
Speaker 1: You're saying attributes then, between the two.
Speaker 3: Psychopath is very much in control where normal Bates wasn't.
Speaker 3: A better example would be a movie like The Talent
Speaker 3: that mister Ripley. I don't know if you've ever seen that,
Speaker 3: but that's that's a fantastic That is a stunningly accurate
Speaker 3: portrayal of a psychopath that even when he loses control
Speaker 3: and has to kill people, he's got his ship together
Speaker 3: like you would not believe. I mean, if people want
Speaker 3: to see a perfect portrayal of a psychopath, watch the
Speaker 3: talent does mister Ripley, because that's that's that, that's an education.
Speaker 3: Even the way he changed, even the way it changes
Speaker 3: between gay and straight. You remember that sexuality exam has
Speaker 3: just a bit as well. You see, this is the whole,
Speaker 3: the whole, giving a very quick example. This is why
Speaker 3: the whole, the whole fellas coming out suddenly as women.
Speaker 3: That's another one we have. That's another red flag we
Speaker 3: have to be aware of because they can get a
Speaker 3: lot of attention. That yeah, I mean it's usual the
Speaker 3: women out there who were actually like their husbands have
Speaker 3: suddenly you know, become trans out of blue. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's like why if you don't know when to get attention,
Speaker 3: you're you're you know, Pride Month means everyone will worship
Speaker 3: youever you get whatever you want, You can get away
Speaker 3: with things. It's like these these assholes and they're women
Speaker 3: to win you know Olympic medals. That's that's pure psychopath
Speaker 3: pretending you're a woman to win a sports medal. That's there.
Speaker 3: Every last one of them are either complete losers or
Speaker 3: total psychopaths.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, complete illness in the mind.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's it's also very manipulative. I know a
Speaker 3: few people who transitioned and they did it very specifically,
Speaker 3: knowing it would have great benefit for them personally and
Speaker 3: find that in the lower ways and also accolades. So
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that aren't people or genuinely confused and
Speaker 3: you know, dysmorphic. But when it becomes fashionable, just like
Speaker 3: it is now, that's when you see the real psychopaths coming, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that death comes from.
Speaker 1: If I may just on my question, go ahead record it.
Speaker 5: No, No, I don't go on JJA. I talked much doing.
Speaker 9: I just want I just want to I've been very
Speaker 9: concerned about this, Norman bates Ai since I t developed
Speaker 9: at Zerra twenty fourteen. I just want to know what
Speaker 9: your thoughts are with all these discussions. I thought these
Speaker 9: were similar things psychoped psych psychopathy and some of the
Speaker 9: attributes we see in the character Norman Baits, but nonetheless
Speaker 9: like what what do you expect to see out of
Speaker 9: an AI that's based upon Norman Baits, you know, with
Speaker 9: the you know, what are they going to do? Like
Speaker 9: that that AI is not hunting down psychopaths in the future,
Speaker 9: Like what is that?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 3: No one want to lose control, will start killing everybody
Speaker 3: out of fear, out of irrationality. It become a rational
Speaker 3: It was based on Patrick Bateman in American Psycho. It
Speaker 3: would make sure we were all happy and taken care of,
Speaker 3: so it could actually give us.
Speaker 9: So you say that people, that was the next question.
Speaker 9: So I appreciate that. So you would say that he's
Speaker 9: a better example than right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well he was.
Speaker 2: That was that.
Speaker 3: That's actually except for the end where he goes on
Speaker 3: the killing spree, that wouldn't really happen. He wouldn't more.
Speaker 3: It was too much trouble. People don't understand. It's be
Speaker 3: too much trouble to kill fellows with hammers and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. With that portrayal of him, like to glore
Speaker 3: some of the glibnus and the superficiality. You know, do
Speaker 3: you like Genesis? And he starts talking about his bands
Speaker 3: like fewy los in the news and Genesis and Phil Collins.
Speaker 3: Not like where I would say to you, oh have
Speaker 3: you heard the new harm by so and such? It's
Speaker 3: really nice. He was like a movie. He was like
Speaker 3: he was reading a review from a Spin magazine or
Speaker 3: Rolling Stone. And that is because he didn't feel the
Speaker 3: fucking music. It was just pure, really a method. There's
Speaker 3: so transparent when you start to note. That's the recognized
Speaker 3: him after a while. So that's what it was. That
Speaker 3: was just basically a form of flattery, but also trying
Speaker 3: to look clever. You know that. I remember when I
Speaker 3: first saw that film. I was roaring laughing when he
Speaker 3: puts the place to Uey loosed the news early Stiff
Speaker 3: was a bit too new April. It was it was
Speaker 3: reading from Spin. Make it's something there and learned on
Speaker 3: Spin magazine and Rolling Stone reboup pages. Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 3: That that but those in the maining spree that wouldn't happen.
Speaker 3: And really that was just too much trouble. He would
Speaker 3: be wasting his time with that.
Speaker 1: To be square.
Speaker 3: That was Did he win the Oscar for that? He didn't.
Speaker 3: He showed up because he was phenomenal, you know, he
Speaker 3: had that that gliveness. That's you know, the whole that
Speaker 3: he wanted to kill the guy because he had a
Speaker 3: nicer business card. That's what they're like, Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: gonna mention.
Speaker 2: I was like, remember the business card part. That was
Speaker 2: ridiculous in itself.
Speaker 3: But he wouldn't do it. He wouldn't do it. Inside
Speaker 3: his mind. Maybe if I'm going to find a way
Speaker 3: to get him fired, I'm going to plant coke in
Speaker 3: his desk and then call the cops and and and
Speaker 3: they'll find the coke in the desk, and you know
Speaker 3: that's that's that's how he would really do it. And
Speaker 3: I've seen that done. I've actually seen that done. Similar
Speaker 3: things like that done in employment places where people were
Speaker 3: framed by the psychopath, you know, just to get to
Speaker 3: get their job or to get them out of there.
Speaker 3: They do mess up reports on that kind of thing
Speaker 3: and then say, oh, you did this, he did this.
Speaker 3: You know, this is where this is. This is what
Speaker 3: I really like. Deviousness, like you would. There's devious not deviousness,
Speaker 3: not driven out driven so much airt of Macavelian cleverness.
Speaker 3: It's deviousness driven out of like I'll do whatever it
Speaker 3: takes to get where I want and that's a psychopath.
Speaker 5: Sure, So would you say that these people are somehow
Speaker 5: have the brain connections are somehow? So we have this
Speaker 5: Brocker brain, right, and the Brocker brain is when you
Speaker 5: recede either in fear or you attack viciously as a human.
Speaker 5: So the Brocker brain is a reptilian brain and only
Speaker 5: gives you two respond One of them is to power
Speaker 5: and the other one is to attack. Do you say
Speaker 5: that these people have some special connection on their brain
Speaker 5: to the reptilian brain that allows them to be calculative
Speaker 5: while they're gaining lashes or they're giving free reins to
Speaker 5: their Brocker brain. Their brain is more focused on the
Speaker 5: Brocker brain and helped by the rest instead of being
Speaker 5: the other way around.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they have a hyperactivity hyperactive or complex the
Speaker 3: reptilian plane. However, they have the This is why the
Speaker 3: eyes expand when the norno per neephrie floats, just because
Speaker 3: the upt nerves enter the brain at the back of
Speaker 3: the brain stem where the reptilian brain is. So it's
Speaker 3: like fascinating stuff. But we have a think called the amigla,
Speaker 3: which is the the gearbox of the brain, and it
Speaker 3: stops me from like killing one until they killed it.
Speaker 3: They who messes up my order of the restaurant. It's
Speaker 3: like it stops you, It stops you from destructive acts.
Speaker 3: They don't have an imigial. They go straight to you know,
Speaker 3: there's no that the wisdom of the compassion is kind
Speaker 3: of rooted in that gearbox. They just go right to
Speaker 3: route one. And they may they want to tell it directly,
Speaker 3: but they'll hide it about what they want now. I
Speaker 3: often wonder if there's some of them that know they
Speaker 3: are where they are, but they to get along in life.
Speaker 3: They don't do it, you know, but I don't know
Speaker 3: because they're driven by that rush.
Speaker 6: That rush.
Speaker 5: They can do it later. They can do it later,
Speaker 5: not at that moment, but you'll get your home.
Speaker 3: They'll do it on their deathbed. They'll do it on there.
Speaker 3: They'll steal money on their deathbed. No, not not because
Speaker 3: they can spend the money, but because well when Chimney Saville,
Speaker 3: I'm want to finish this right now, the notorious Jimmy
Speaker 3: stavel his last words wire I got away with it. Wow.
Speaker 8: I wonder if you have time, Thomas, if there's any
Speaker 8: advice on a personal level for dealing with the people
Speaker 8: we deem that might have these psychopathic tendency, is it
Speaker 8: and in general, is it more overt and honest, like,
Speaker 8: I see what you're doing, Please don't do that?
Speaker 1: Or is it more or is it best to be.
Speaker 8: More subtle and just not fall into their manipulations?
Speaker 3: Don't come here, don't don't be dramatic about it, don't
Speaker 3: go you're out of here, buddy, just like slowly, not casually,
Speaker 3: without trauma, without vindictiveness, without making a big deal about it,
Speaker 3: just slow dissolve the way out of their world. Because
Speaker 3: if that and hopefully they lose interest in you, go
Speaker 3: move on someone else, no contacts, no cure except to
Speaker 3: get out there, get them out of your life. And
Speaker 3: you do that very gingerly. Gingerly, yeah, because remember you're
Speaker 3: like you're in the woods and as a wild from
Speaker 3: you and help you escape, not by running screaming through
Speaker 3: the woods, like by gingerly sneaking out trying not to
Speaker 3: break you know that kind of thing. Yeah, that's the way.
Speaker 5: It's it's the the old excuse. That is a compliment.
Speaker 5: So yeah, but these people don't like that you feel
Speaker 5: more intelligent or better successful or anything that they can envy.
Speaker 5: So when you want to exclude yourself from that environment.
Speaker 5: And I think Thomas will agree with me. You have
Speaker 5: to look insignificant, right, you have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also they will also want the piece of the action.
Speaker 3: They want to be friends with celebrities. I'm friends with
Speaker 3: this guy, you know, I shag this woman they did.
Speaker 3: There's a lot that kind of thing as well, the
Speaker 3: kind of like the cachet of being one of the
Speaker 3: top people. So I mean, that's why I'm glad. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm not a celebrity because I like in
Speaker 3: Hollywood or something, because you only imagine what you have
Speaker 3: to deal with in the music industry and everything. It
Speaker 3: must be, you know, one of these people for the
Speaker 3: wall around themselves. But I mean you get a lot
Speaker 3: of that hanger on or they a lot of them
Speaker 3: would be it go would be kind of like I remember,
Speaker 3: I think it was like the band Queen or Pink Floyd,
Speaker 3: who says suddenly they realized one day they had all
Speaker 3: these hundreds of people who worked for them. They didn't
Speaker 3: know any of them did although were with all these
Speaker 3: types of smoking and got like, you know, no show
Speaker 3: jobs and that kind of thing, you know, But it
Speaker 3: was the same thing Oh yeah, I'm a personal you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a personal so and so the Freddie Mercury this
Speaker 3: kind of thing. You know, they love the cachet of
Speaker 3: boasting about that. And that's a power thing as well,
Speaker 3: because you know him personal. They were very good friends.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I kind of think I get a lot of that
Speaker 3: kind of thing. And that's another way. So they wouldn't
Speaker 3: necessarily be resentful of the person having more talent, money
Speaker 3: and fame, but they would certainly see them as an
Speaker 3: asset to be exploited. Absolutely, So listen, guys, I really
Speaker 3: enjoyed that, and I would like to come back again
Speaker 3: for sure. You have definitely, because you let me talk
Speaker 3: and a lot of people don't normally let me talk.
Speaker 3: Well I like to I like the style of the stuff.
Speaker 3: I haven't done a shout like this in a while.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, definitely, thanks very much for asking me
Speaker 3: on for.
Speaker 2: Sure for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well well yeah we'll wrap it up now. Is there
Speaker 4: anything you want to you want to promote? Like again,
Speaker 4: like any sites on links that you want people to
Speaker 4: check out?
Speaker 2: Just off it?
Speaker 3: I shared on substack. Thomas Sheridan on YouTube, Thomas Sheridan Telegram,
Speaker 3: Thomas Sheridan down the pulvid about half an hour.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I thank you again, Lisa Ricardo, Jules Ethan and JJ.
Speaker 2: Thank you all for coming on. I appreciate your time.
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