WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:09.119 house Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Hey follow 3 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:14.839 us on social media. We only do the good kind, uplifting, informative, inspiring. 4 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:18.960 We're on all the usual suspects, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, x, 5 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:23.760 Home with Dean, Home with Dean, same handle for them all, 6 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:28.079 find us, follow us, share the information there with your 7 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:32.560 friends and family, and little reminder. If your home is 8 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:36.159 in need of some personal house Whisper attention, like personal 9 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:39.479 like you and my house, yep, you can book. If 10 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:42.960 you live, especially in the southern Greater Southern California area, 11 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:45.479 you can book an in home design consul with me 12 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:51.399 and T Just go to house Whisperer dot design. All right, 13 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.200 we are today doing part two of our two part 14 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:59.560 series this weekend of the Best of the International Builders Show, 15 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.439 which wrapped up in Las Vegas this last weekend. We're 16 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:04.840 gonna get back to that list. Uh and it is 17 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.079 a big list, so I want to take as much 18 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.120 time as possible for it, but never gonna neglect calls. 19 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:13.519 It's top of the hour, It's time to go to 20 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:16.000 the phones. And uh so let's take a call or 21 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:18.519 to you. I want to talk to Wayne. Hey, Wayne, 22 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:19.760 welcome home. 23 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:28.400 Stein. I'm watching at taking putting in an electronic fireplace, 24 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:31.920 building a pony wall in front of the existing fireplace. 25 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:35.400 But I want to ask you, how should I close 26 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.599 up the existing fireplace? Is just closing the damper sufficient 27 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:39.560 or sorry to do more than that? 28 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:41.159 Ah? 29 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.480 Okay, So you're gonna build a pony wall in. 30 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:44.040 Front of it? 31 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:47.200 Yeah? 32 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:47.760 Okay? 33 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:50.560 So all right. 34 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:55.239 Every situation in this uh for this procedure is a 35 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:58.560 little different, Wayne, And so what I'm not I'm not 36 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:01.000 going to tell you a step by step process here, 37 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.760 because the configuration of the brick, opening of the fireplace, 38 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.159 the relationship to the wall, so on and so forth. 39 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.520 But I'm going to give you some principles. Some principles. 40 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.159 Number one one thing you may want to do, just 41 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:16.240 for the heck of it is you may want to 42 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.159 check with the building and safety and see if they 43 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:23.639 have and some cities do. Some don't have a pull 44 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:27.280 sheet or a procedure if you're going to abandon a 45 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:30.280 fireplace in a house, a masonry fireplace in the house. 46 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.120 Some do a lot don't, but it never hurts to 47 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:36.080 check just to make sure, and it's not going to 48 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.759 be like a big permit thing or anything like that. 49 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:40.759 It's just that there are certain things they want to 50 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:44.240 see happen. So that being said, I'll tell you the 51 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.840 things I want to see happen. What we've got to 52 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:49.879 do is we have to deal with the fact that 53 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:57.680 we're still leaving this ventilation, uninsulated moisture trap next to 54 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.919 our house on what's going to now be the backside 55 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:03.400 of a new wall. So here are the things that 56 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:06.840 I'm most concerned about. I am concerned Number one, that 57 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:11.400 we block off the entire chimney. That means up on 58 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:14.680 the roof up at the top. I want to seal 59 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:17.719 it off up there. I don't want rain getting in, 60 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:21.280 I don't want bees getting in and taking up residence 61 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:26.280 in your chimney. And so I actually would love to 62 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.120 create a sheet metal cap up there now. I don't 63 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.520 want it to look like it's not the chimney because 64 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.199 you're not demoing the chimney out. You still wanted to 65 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:35.759 have that look on the outside of the house, you're 66 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:40.319 just not using it now. So and I don't want 67 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:43.520 to destroy it for anybody, including you, who might decide 68 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.080 to use it. In the future. So I just want 69 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.400 to make sure that we've got a nice sheet metal 70 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:51.400 cap on the top of the chimney, and that we 71 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.680 seal that off with a weather sealed caul, and we 72 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:58.879 don't just sit it there so that insects or bees 73 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.879 can get inside. Feel it off at the top. No 74 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:07.479 more rain, no more you know, humidity going down inside 75 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:11.360 the chimney. That's number one. Number two is inside that 76 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.639 firebox down at ground level. We want to make sure 77 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.360 it's super clean, get it all cleaned up, don't leave 78 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:21.160 it all, you know, groedy. And we want to get 79 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:25.720 some insulation in there, all right, insulation to keep air 80 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:29.079 and drafts from rising up the chimney and causing back 81 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:33.399 drafting on the back of the wall. Number three. Ideally, 82 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.720 I don't know if your fireplace has an ash dump, 83 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:40.319 like a little vent where ash can be pushed out 84 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:44.839 to the to the outside. But ideally, since since we're 85 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:52.600 since we are creating an open cavity of masonry in 86 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:56.360 there that has for its entire existence, had the freedom 87 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.240 of air flowing through it to keep it dry. I 88 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:05.040 don't want humidity building up inside that chimney and becoming 89 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:08.839 a moisture problem. So I like the idea that down 90 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.720 at the firebox, if there's not already an ash dump, 91 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.560 going to the outside to you know, get. 92 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:15.680 Out a. 93 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:20.959 Concrete saw. And I like the idea of cutting in, 94 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:25.120 removing a brick, at least one brick sized from the 95 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:30.639 back of the fireplace outside and getting an actual vent 96 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.480 through there. It's going to be all closed off, non accessible, 97 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:39.560 but it basically gives the chimney down low okay, not 98 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:41.959 up at the top, but down low at the firebox. 99 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:46.839 It gives moisture of a chance to escape out so 100 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.839 it doesn't build up inside the chimney. Apart from that, 101 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:55.879 the face of the firebox itself, if you are going 102 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:58.000 to build building a wall in front of it, then 103 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.560 I would probably just make sure that I would get 104 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:06.439 a nice firm piece of wood or sheet metal over 105 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:09.040 it and again seal it off to the face of 106 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:12.879 the existing brick, so there are no drafts and no 107 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.920 heat transfer, no cold transfer, that kind of stuff. We 108 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.680 don't have to worry about doing it, you know, we 109 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:21.240 don't have to brick it in, and you don't have 110 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:23.959 to worry about doing it in a way that's noncombustible 111 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:26.040 because we're not there's not gonna be any combustion in 112 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:30.720 that chamber anymore at all, and so that's you know, 113 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.879 you just need to close it off to make sure 114 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:37.480 that draft and moisture. Drafts and moisture and insulation are 115 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:42.480 my main concerns about closing up an old fireplace that 116 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.720 we're going to leave in place. Those are my primary concerns. 117 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.879 And of course, if there's a gas line going into it, 118 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.519 you want to pull that out, Okay, not just cap 119 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.879 it off inside. You want to pull that gas line 120 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:57.680 out so that there's no chance whatsoever that even a 121 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.319 broken gas pipe or a leaking gas pipe will fill 122 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:05.519 that chamber with gas unbeknownst to you. So those are 123 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:08.800 the keys. Those are the principles involved in closing off 124 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:12.759 a masony fireplace, and you can apply them to your 125 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.199 situation as you see fit, and also check with the 126 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:19.800 city to see if they've got a pull sheet on it. Great, 127 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:22.120 thank you very much, You're very welcome. 128 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:22.519 Wayne. 129 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.480 Good luck on that sounds like it's a cool project. 130 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:29.879 I know what you're all thinking, How does he know that? 131 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:30.720 That's what I did? 132 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.759 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 133 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:36.399 KFI AM six forty. 134 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:39.000 Hey, thanks for joining us on the program today. I'm 135 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.199 so glad you showed up. I'm so glad you're here. 136 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:46.560 Look at you. Uh No, I truly am glad that 137 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:48.920 you're here with us today. It is as a lovely 138 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:52.680 spring kind of day here in southern California. Breezes are 139 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:56.560 blowing clouds, a little cloud, a little not little sunshine. 140 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:00.639 I don't know. I think spring has sprung here. It's March, 141 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:04.680 is it not, Yes, it is, And so we're only 142 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:09.879 a few days away from spring officially beginning anyway, and 143 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:13.160 I think it's like, I'm done, We're ready, let's go. 144 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:15.920 Hopefully that'll bring us some more rain. I hope that's 145 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:19.399 the case. Some spring showers would be very very welcome here. 146 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:24.279 Not too much, too fast, just enough, you know, keep 147 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:27.759 our fingers crossed for that. We are talking about the 148 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.600 International Builder Show, which just took place this last week 149 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.159 in Las Vegas. I've got a list of some highlights 150 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.480 for you, and we're enjoying going through that list because 151 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:38.039 there's some cool stuff out there that happened this year. 152 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.720 But right now I'm on the phone. I'm on the 153 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:44.879 phone taking calls, and I want to do it again. 154 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:47.960 Let's talk to Bob. Hey, Bob, welcome home. 155 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.039 Yes, hi, how are you? 156 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.440 I am well, sir. How can I help you? 157 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:59.519 I'm thinking of changing my regular round toilets to the 158 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:04.039 odd blow and I'm wondering if the hole that's in 159 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.720 the concrete underneath it is going to match up the 160 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.279 new oblong toilet. 161 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:14.960 That's a good question. Good question. Yeah, so elongated toilet 162 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:19.039 bowls versus the round, you know, kind of standard toilet bowls. 163 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:21.960 So here is the good news, Bob. The drains are 164 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:25.000 all the same. The shape of the bowl has nothing 165 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:28.600 to do with the shape of the drain down below. Okay. 166 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:33.360 The most important thing, just so you know, FYI, is 167 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.360 that whatever new toilet you're looking at has the right 168 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.200 offset from the wall, the same off set. 169 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:42.320 That's what I was wondering. 170 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.679 Yes, yeah, And they're all they're all okay, so they're 171 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:49.600 relatively standard. Now there are exceptions. There are exceptions, but 172 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:53.200 they're all really relatively standard. When an oblong toilet, or 173 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:56.559 what we call an extended toilet bowl, it really stretches 174 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.240 out from the back. It doesn't thicken up the backside 175 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.440 too much, all right, So the distance off the wall 176 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:05.879 to the drain rarely changes. It's really the distance from 177 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:10.519 the drain forward that changes about the toilet. So most toilets, 178 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:14.960 or well all toilets in the US are either set 179 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.240 up for three inch or four inch drain down below. 180 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:21.679 And if we are designing a house blind, which is 181 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:25.600 not something I do because I'm a custom home designer, 182 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:29.440 so we've already had our clients select the toilet that 183 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.399 they want. But and as a builder, you know, I 184 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.279 want to go for those specs. But if we're just 185 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:38.159 working with a standard tract house which was designed blind, 186 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:41.600 you know, without knowing who or what's going to get 187 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.279 put in there. The standard offset off the back wall 188 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:48.559 for a toilet drain to the center of the drain, 189 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:50.600 not to the edge the center of the drain, either 190 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:53.639 three or four inch, is twelve inches twelve inches off 191 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:55.960 the back wall to the center of the drain, and 192 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.440 most toilet manufacturers, because they want you to buy their toilet, 193 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:04.240 are honoring that. Now, sometimes it's a little less, sometimes 194 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:08.559 it's a smidgey more, but believe me, toilet manufacturers want 195 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:11.440 their toilet to fit on your existing setup and so 196 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:15.960 buy and large the vast majority of them work with 197 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:19.320 the twelve inch offset rule, So one foot off that 198 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:19.879 back wall. 199 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:25.080 Should I should I change the big wax ring while 200 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:25.720 I'm doing that? 201 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.080 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean that's you know, the wax ring. 202 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:33.080 That's a that is a three dollars item. So whenever 203 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:36.159 you change out a toilet, even when you service a toilet, 204 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.720 I mean anytime that I just take the existing toilet 205 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:43.480 off just to check something or scope a pipe or whatever, 206 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:45.759 I don't put it back down on the old wax ring. 207 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:49.120 We just you know, have a new wax ring available 208 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.279 three bucks. We pop it in there and you're good 209 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:53.799 to go. So anytime you take the toilet off the 210 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:58.080 floor and set it aside, replace the wax ring with 211 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:00.279 a new one, and you should be good to go. 212 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.799 My friend, Well that's what I'll do. 213 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:04.159 And thank you for your health. 214 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:08.080 You are very very welcome. Good luck with that joy 215 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:11.720 the new toilet. The new toilets are a huge part 216 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:16.080 of the International Builder Show. The Colar Coler as a brand, 217 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.720 this is the expectation that we've we've come to. Coler 218 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.879 doesn't have a booth. No no, no, no no no no. 219 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:28.679 Coler is usually in the West wing, or at least 220 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:33.919 in the north the north. I don't know what they 221 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:38.600 call it room anyway. Space at the convention center usually 222 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.399 up on the well. Yeah, they last year on the 223 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:45.879 first floor. It doesn't matter. Coler has a city. I 224 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.080 mean it is a it is a city. 225 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:48.759 It is. 226 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:55.600 The Colar display at the International Builders Show is probably 227 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:58.000 half the size of my price. It's probably a quarter 228 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.919 acre display. I mean, I mean that, I'm not exaggerating. 229 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:06.159 I may have the dimensions wrong, but it is massive 230 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:11.519 because every year they and other plumbing manufacturers like Toto 231 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.720 and American Standard, I mean, they go all out to 232 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:19.360 show you all the latest and greatest the colors. The 233 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:24.519 amazing thing about bathroom design right now and kitchens in 234 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:29.000 terms of fixtures, plumbing fixtures is man. The technology has 235 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:32.480 advanced so much. The sky truly is the limit. Every 236 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:37.200 color imaginable, every shape, every functionality. And you know you've 237 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:40.879 heard me talk now about the modern toilet, which Toto 238 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:46.039 designed and invented. Actually, you know, the self cleaning the 239 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:51.200 day set up every luxury toilet, and you've probably experienced one, 240 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.919 or at least walk by one or whatever in somebody's 241 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:56.960 home or some business somewhere where you know, you just 242 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.279 walk into the room, and the toilet lights up and 243 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.039 it opens its lid, and you know, I'm shocked that 244 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.759 most of them don't just talk to you like welcome, 245 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:09.120 have us seat, welcome home. But they are, they are 246 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:14.279 pretty advanced, and yet all of that still obeying the 247 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:17.360 old standard of twelve inch offset to the middle of 248 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.960 the drain off the back of the wall because they 249 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.759 want you to buy their toilet. Okay, I got more. 250 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.679 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 251 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:28.240 KFI AM six forty. 252 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:30.919 I'm taking calls right now, and then we're going to 253 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:33.639 be getting back to our list of the best of 254 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.159 the International Builder Show, which just closed up and finished 255 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:40.200 up in Las Vegas this last week. But right now 256 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:44.120 I'm still knocking down calls on the callboard for as 257 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:46.799 long as I can because I love your calls, I 258 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.000 really do. I love the surprising nature of them. So 259 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:58.879 let's talk to Josie. Hey, Josie, welcome home. Josie. Are 260 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:06.279 you with me all right? I think Josie is not 261 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.919 paying attention right now. Let's talk to Vicky. Hey, Vicky, 262 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:10.000 welcome home. 263 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:15.600 Hi, hy, thank you. I have a question. I'm out 264 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:19.120 of my wheelhouse here. I need to know what to 265 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:23.600 keep in mind when vetting and talking to roofers for 266 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:31.720 my mom's vintage nineteen fifties Adobe house. When it rains heavily, 267 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.000 there's two small leaks. No big deal right now, but 268 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:39.159 we want to tackle it. And you know, it was 269 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.799 a house that was the bricks were made right there 270 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:45.480 on the premises and it's just a lovely house. But 271 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:50.039 I don't know when I should be asking the roofers, 272 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:53.879 and I don't want to be completely, you know, ignorant. 273 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:57.720 So you have a couple of suggestions. 274 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.000 I'd love it all right, Well, let me ask you 275 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.039 some questions. Adobe House. Where is it? 276 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:04.320 It's in San Diego? 277 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:07.919 Okay, it's in San Diego. And the roof right now 278 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:09.759 is Spanish tile. 279 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.600 It is, and it's those large orange kind of curved 280 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:17.320 tiles that stack on each other, and I think they 281 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:21.399 go back to the fifties to also possibly it looks 282 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.480 really good. I mean, to save money. Could we keep 283 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:27.320 the tile and repair and put them back or is 284 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:27.919 there something? 285 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:32.840 Well is I was going to ask you what condition 286 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:33.879 are the tiles in? 287 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.960 And you know what, I think they're in good condition. 288 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:42.480 Funny enough, there's no crumbling now Obviously I haven't been 289 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.720 up there. I'm just eyeballing it from the ground, but 290 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:50.360 they look good from my perspective. 291 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:57.159 Yeah, okay, So here's the thing. It's an Adobe house. 292 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:02.039 It's a classic homes got a classic roof to it. 293 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.559 So the designer and the builder and me have things 294 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.960 to say about this. Okay. First of all, the designer 295 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.599 doesn't want any contract roofing contract to getting near this place. 296 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:18.599 That isn't first thinking, how can we preserve the existing tiles? Okay, 297 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.960 now pulling off pulling off existing Now these are these 298 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:27.079 are These are cap and trough tiles. Right, They're just 299 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:30.640 one kind of tile. There's a there's a row upside down, 300 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.680 then there's a row right side up and upside down 301 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:34.440 and right side up. 302 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:34.640 Right. 303 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:39.319 I mean that's just your traditional Spanish tile roof, which 304 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:42.759 means all those tiles are all the same. Okay, which 305 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:46.319 is great and uh, for the most part, a roofer 306 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:51.960 that's going to be conscientious can in fact remove those 307 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:55.839 tiles and reuse them. Now, no roofer, and rightly so, 308 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:59.599 is going to promise that there won't be some breakage 309 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:02.680 in trying to remove a tile. Just never ever happens. 310 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:06.440 So the first thing, the first thing in the strategy 311 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.640 to save the money on you know, putting a whole 312 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:14.200 new tile roof on. The first strategy is where can 313 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:18.000 we source tiles? Unfortunately, there are a lot of places, 314 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.279 and so take the time, take the time to and 315 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:24.000 a roofer is going to get this job, is going 316 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:28.000 to take the time to source the right color, the 317 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:33.519 right shade, the right shape of traditional Spanish tile, so 318 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:37.599 that you've got a little pile of replacements on hand, 319 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.799 because you know, you could expect up to ten percent breakage. Okay, 320 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:46.799 ten percent is not an insigni It's not the whole roof, 321 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.400 but it's not an insignificant number. Okay, so not as 322 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:53.400 not all of those tiles are going to go back 323 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:57.240 on the house. But if you have a source of 324 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:00.240 replacement tile, then you're way ahead of the game. At 325 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.160 that point. This is a piece of cake because it's 326 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:10.519 just the the conscientious removal of the tiles and then 327 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:13.319 we're gonna strip back whatever is underneath it. If it's 328 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:16.119 built in the fifties, there's going to be double sheets 329 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:19.799 of fifteen pound or thirty pound roofing felt under there 330 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:23.000 that's cracked and old and aging. We're going to strip 331 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:26.039 all of that off, and you want a roofer who's 332 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.799 going to put down a new beautiful self ceiling membrane 333 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:37.039 moisture barrier membrane on top of the roof, sheathing itself 334 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.000 and then put the tiles back on, so the right 335 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.079 roofing membran. So we're gonna put a twenty first century 336 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:50.000 roofing membrane that's gonna last decades, I mean decades. It's 337 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:54.160 gonna self seal around the nails, every nail penetration that 338 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.480 we put through it. We're gonna lay that under. I 339 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:58.359 mean the day that they put the new membrane on 340 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.599 without putting a single tile on the roof, that roof 341 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:04.200 is watertight. You could go through them, onsoon with it 342 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:05.759 and now have no more leaps. 343 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:06.200 Okay. 344 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:10.200 At that point, the tiles go back on decoratively and 345 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:14.599 to protect that membrane from getting blasted by the UV 346 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:19.480 rays of the sun. Okay, so the decorative Spanish tile 347 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:22.640 goes back on and we are done. Here's what I 348 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:25.680 don't want. I don't want you to to give in 349 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:27.720 to a roofer who is like, yeah, you know, we 350 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:31.000 don't do that, and nobody does that anymore, and that's 351 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:35.200 just no, that's not true, or get you like well, 352 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:38.279 you know, it'd be far less expensive to go with 353 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.240 an S tile, which is a Spanish tile in which 354 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:45.079 the the the mound of the tile is connected to 355 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:50.200 the trough. That's what most quote unquote Spanish tile tracked 356 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:54.440 homes these days are built with. But they are not authentic. 357 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:57.880 They are they are not the real deal. They are 358 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.480 a simulation and I wouldn't want that to happen to 359 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.720 your mom's beautiful Adobe house. So the point is source 360 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:07.200 the right material ahead of time, before you even start 361 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:10.519 the game, and then get the best membrane on there 362 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.640 and a conscientious riffer who's going to take it all 363 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:14.799 apart and put it all back together for you, and 364 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:15.880 you are good to go. 365 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:20.319 Nice. Oh, I can't thank you enough. This is just 366 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:22.440 you've just taken a load off my shoulders. 367 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:23.640 Thank you. 368 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:26.880 Oh and Vicky, make sure you get two or three 369 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:29.319 qualified bids for this so that you're also getting this 370 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:30.440 done for the right price. 371 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:34.680 I will do that. Oh, excellent, Thanks again. 372 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:38.759 You are so welcome. Great question, and man, that's I 373 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:44.079 would please send me pictures of mom's house an authentic 374 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:50.079 San Diego Adobe brick home. All right, listen, I am 375 00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:52.759 going to set aside one more segment for calls before 376 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.039 we get back to my list, because we've just got 377 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:56.640 a lot of calls on the board. I'm not going 378 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.359 to be able to get to everybody, but you guys, 379 00:21:58.400 --> 00:21:58.920 hang tight. 380 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.440 Thing to Home with Dean Sharp on Demand from KFI 381 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:04.519 AM six forty. 382 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:07.519 We're talking about the best of the International Builder Show. 383 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:10.279 I'm going to get back to my list right after 384 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:13.839 our next news break, but this is my last shot 385 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:18.119 today to answer some questions for callers. So I want 386 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:20.240 to get back to the phones. See if fucking fit 387 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:22.559 two in here. I don't know. We're going to try. Oh, 388 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.359 Josie is back with us. Hey Josie, welcome home. 389 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:27.519 Okay, can you hear me now? 390 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:29.559 I can hear you now? 391 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:31.279 Okay. 392 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:34.359 I think I hit the mute but accidentally and you couldn't. 393 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:36.960 Oh no, yeah, no worries, No worries. I'm glad you 394 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:37.720 hanker you he. 395 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:40.119 Okay. 396 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.839 I have got a house that has a very large. 397 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:48.480 Skylight over the green room that leads to the outside 398 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.200 the backyard, and somewhere along the line something made it 399 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:55.240 chip up in a corner of. 400 00:22:55.119 --> 00:23:02.359 That skylight, and it looks like it's actually not just 401 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:05.519