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<v Speaker 1>a night dropping a forty seven and a sunny Friday

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<v Speaker 1>for traffic. Chuck Ingram from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Rex Clear southbound seventy five above Union Center, It's going

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<v Speaker 2>at the lateral. With the holiday coming up tomorrow, I

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<v Speaker 2>offer this public service announcement. Our next guest'll be giving

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<v Speaker 2>out not one, but two full sized candy bars to

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<v Speaker 2>the first five hundred kids tomorrow. Which houses belongs to

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<v Speaker 2>the judge? Well, that's easy. Look for the giant inflatable

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<v Speaker 2>ten foot constitution in the front yard. That's right. The

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<v Speaker 2>judge is next, Chuck Ingram fifty five KRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>You're screwed now, Judgeavons god right, Brian, I was terrified

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to give out my address. I go

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck would never do that. I was gonna say, you

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<v Speaker 1>live on a farm. I bet you don't even get

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<v Speaker 1>anybody knocking on your door. I don't want to reveal

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<v Speaker 1>any trade secrets.

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<v Speaker 3>Or any there. We're so far out on the sticks

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<v Speaker 3>no one does that. But I have to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>an inflatable constitution that is very, very creative, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It satisfies all of your decorating needs for any holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say you can use that all year line right.

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<v Speaker 3>And he might even be reading my colle Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Judge the Follatona. It is always a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>have you on the program, and I always encourage my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners to check out your podcast, Judging Freedom, which we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find out who you're going to be talking to at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the segment, as we always do, and

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<v Speaker 1>let us launch into tweetled ee and tweetled the I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the subject matter of your column. I'm fortunate enough every

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<v Speaker 1>week to get early. It comes out tonight and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>recommend my listeners read it. I kind of got the

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<v Speaker 1>impression you were I don't know about agitated. You were

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<v Speaker 1>on fire when you sat down to write this column.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you were overwhelmed with uh. Maybe not necessarily discussed,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a word that kind of comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Not know that I'm right or wrong on that, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was just the impression I got.

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<v Speaker 3>Two sides say, you know me very well, and you

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<v Speaker 3>have a very good handle on what my attitude has been.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know I'll speak candidly with you, even though

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<v Speaker 3>I know there are hundreds of thousands of people listening

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<v Speaker 3>to us. Now it's a little I'm a little torn

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<v Speaker 3>because I have known Donald Trump personally since nineteen eighty six,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is well known that he interviewed me twice

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<v Speaker 3>for the Supreme Court of the United States. People would say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you crazy? Aren't you loyal to your friends?

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<v Speaker 3>The guy almost put you on the Supreme Court. Yes

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<v Speaker 3>and yes, but you know, there's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>that he stands for which are contrary to my understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of the Constitution. The same thing with Kamala Harris, whom

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<v Speaker 3>I only met twice. I can't say that I'm friends

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<v Speaker 3>with Harris as I am with him. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a gratifying to know on a personal basis the former

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<v Speaker 3>and probably future president. But I have to be intellectually

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<v Speaker 3>honest and faithful. As you know, I like to say

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<v Speaker 3>to first principles.

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<v Speaker 1>First principles, and as I rarely respond, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>an ad nauseum resid to your column, but I actually

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<v Speaker 1>took it upon myself to respond about the immigration component,

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<v Speaker 1>many many wonderful points. And you know I regularly you

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<v Speaker 1>and my with our libertarian and constitutionally based principles, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much uniformally agree on anything but everything. But I understand

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional libertarian mentality when it comes to borders, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have the freedom as free people to travel. I

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<v Speaker 1>get all that, but that reality is completely undermined by

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<v Speaker 1>the social welfare state that we've created here. So we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a system of laws and rules that allow pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much every human being, both citizens and non legal and illegal,

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<v Speaker 1>to grab a hold and take advantage of all of

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<v Speaker 1>the large jets of the American taxpayers heat down upon

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<v Speaker 1>them by law by the federal governments, state governments, and

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<v Speaker 1>local governments. Quite often there are local programs that obligate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the homeless to be housed. Oh, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>until you get overwhelmed with one hundred thousand or more

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Then it's like we ran out of places

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<v Speaker 1>to keep them. That's a transpair burden, and that interrupts

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<v Speaker 1>the free flow of humanity that you and I normally

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<v Speaker 1>would embrace.

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<v Speaker 3>And that welfare state is absolutely and utterly contrary to

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<v Speaker 3>our first principles, which is that the government can't take

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<v Speaker 3>money from us to give it away, can't take from

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<v Speaker 3>the haves to give to the have nuts. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that a lot of people come here because they want

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<v Speaker 3>a better life, they want freedom, they want to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to prosper. But a lot of people, more than

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<v Speaker 3>in the first group, come here because they expect free

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<v Speaker 3>stuff from the government. And the Supreme Court in a

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<v Speaker 3>terrible opinion called po versus Texas, where Texas tried to

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<v Speaker 3>deny free education to immigrant children, Supreme Court said, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't do it. Whatever you provide to your children of

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<v Speaker 3>the people that were children that were born there, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to provide to them, and then they expanded it

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<v Speaker 3>to food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, and education. That type of

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<v Speaker 3>ruling and its implementation by the Congress and by various

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<v Speaker 3>state legislatures is the root of the problem. Freedom to

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<v Speaker 3>travel is not the root of the problem. Now, on

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<v Speaker 3>this freedom to travel, there are libertarians look at it

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<v Speaker 3>two different ways. The natural law libertarians of which I

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<v Speaker 3>am one, believe that the right to travel is a

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<v Speaker 3>fundamental liberty. You can go wherever you want. The property

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<v Speaker 3>rights oriented libertarians, which is most of the libertarians, believe

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<v Speaker 3>that the owner of property can exclude whoever he wants

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<v Speaker 3>from his own property, which means if the government owns

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<v Speaker 3>a road or a highway, it can exclude people from

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<v Speaker 3>that road or highway based upon standards that it establishes,

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<v Speaker 3>like you've got to be a citizen, or you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to do this, this, and this before you can come

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<v Speaker 3>into the country. I understand, I understand both arguments, but

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<v Speaker 3>you are correct, my dear friend. The root of the

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<v Speaker 3>problem is the American welfare state. And I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how that can possibly be undone short

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States of America federal government collapsing like

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<v Speaker 3>the old Soviet Union collapsed, which I think will happen

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<v Speaker 3>in the lifetime of your grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what disturbs me most about this. It is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this sort of you know, we have this

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<v Speaker 1>bleeding herd mentality, and we need to help the poor.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we can read the inscription on the

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<v Speaker 1>Statute of Liberty, even though it's not and has never

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<v Speaker 1>been a law of the land. It was a poem

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<v Speaker 1>or a little thing written by some independent person. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know this idea, Oh we're compassionate. Your ancestors cane here.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, yeah, mine did. And my great

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<v Speaker 1>great grandfather came off the boat from Ireland, went through

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<v Speaker 1>Ellis Island. They probably gave him a quick updown, physical

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<v Speaker 1>check and decided on the fly whether or not he

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<v Speaker 1>could come in or not, and that was it. Then

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<v Speaker 1>left to his own devices, he worked, got a job

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<v Speaker 1>on the railroad, provided for his family, and then of

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<v Speaker 1>course here I am generations later, living off the wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>reality that I live in a free country. But that

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<v Speaker 1>can't survive with the massive social welfare state. That all

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do is look at our deficit, our

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<v Speaker 1>expenditures of taxpayer dollars which far exceed the amount they

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<v Speaker 1>take in to realize what you just said is inevitable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the slowest train coming down the tunnel. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see it. You know you could stop it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't lift a finger to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Gret, but get getting back if I could. To my

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<v Speaker 3>column twittled tweedledumb, which is meant to mock the similarities

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<v Speaker 3>between Vice President Harris and former President Trump on issue

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<v Speaker 3>like war and peace and debt and personal freedom surveillance.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the Trump thing really is a head scratcher.

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<v Speaker 3>He was victimized so exquisitely and egregiously by FBI, NSA, GCHQ,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the British spying entity surveillance, and yet he signed

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<v Speaker 3>and indicated he will continue to sign extensions of the

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<v Speaker 3>legislation that permit that to happen. So I was really saying,

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<v Speaker 3>there's not any difference between the two of them other

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<v Speaker 3>than personality, other than emotion, other than likability on those

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<v Speaker 3>key issues of war and peace, debt, they're both going

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<v Speaker 3>to spend trillions more than they have and surveillance. If

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<v Speaker 3>you want to get back to immigration, the same court

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<v Speaker 3>that said in the nineteen seventies will provide the same

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<v Speaker 3>basic social safety net to immigrants as you do to citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>Will say to him, there's no such thing as mass

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<v Speaker 3>deportation in the United States. You want to kick somebody out,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have a trial, right, That's an impossibility

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<v Speaker 3>if anybody thinks it's going to be a trial, a

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<v Speaker 3>literal trial, for every person that they want to de port.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is an intractable problem. The problem is intractable,

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<v Speaker 3>and the proposed solution is intractable as long as the

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<v Speaker 3>welfare state stays here.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, and I understand from a due process standpoint exactly that,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I pointed out to you. I acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>readily that mass deportation is virtually impossible from a fiscal,

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<v Speaker 1>a geopolitical, and a logistical springing from any of those

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<v Speaker 1>three issues. If a country doesn't want to take back

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that you say you're deporting, how you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of him, even if they've been through

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<v Speaker 1>the due process hearing. We've got ten years of backlog

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<v Speaker 1>of these cases that are supposed to be Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these people.

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<v Speaker 3>Who got here illegally and whose children were born here

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<v Speaker 3>are so Americanized. If they were in a room with us,

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't know who they were. You're gonna throw those

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<v Speaker 3>people out of the country. I mean, this is just

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<v Speaker 3>going to cost such and you're gonna do it without

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<v Speaker 3>a trial. This is gonna cause such social turmoil. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, the crowd at Madison Square Garden the other

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<v Speaker 3>night will roar its approval, but I'm not so sure

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the country will well.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, walking through it, you can say it to

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<v Speaker 1>separate yourself from the opposition, which in this case Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>Harris and open borders and embracing that notwithstanding the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>we face because of the welfare state. But to contrast, starkly,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a demonstrable record to sow that you limited

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<v Speaker 1>the number of illegal immigrants, You put policies in place

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<v Speaker 1>which stemmed the flow. You have a stark contrast. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe as a matter of desperation, we're gonna kick them

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<v Speaker 1>all out comes out of your mouth. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in off as you're like, well, maybe we can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I are pointing out that you probably you can't,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's going to be this decade's long challenge.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, And I get the way politics works. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean George Orwell in nineteen eighty four pointed out in

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<v Speaker 3>get votes. And Trump has chosen it to be immigrants.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with that. In one respect,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a brilliant political maneuver because they're not in a

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<v Speaker 3>sort of bleeding heart, knee jerk lefties that want them

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<v Speaker 3>to come in the country to defend them. Why do

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<v Speaker 3>they want them to come in the country. They want

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't always happen. Look at the Cubans in Florida. They

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<v Speaker 3>became successful.

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<v Speaker 1>And Republicans public. Well, if you realize.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm generalizing, Brian, I'm trying to manifest my understanding that

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<v Speaker 3>I have a handle on both sides of this, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is an intractable problem. But the more debt the

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<v Speaker 3>federal government accumulates, the more foreign military basis it pays

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<v Speaker 1>And some will argue that that is indeed the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Annapolitano Judging Freedom your podcast, and I'm a listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>tune in and find it all the time. Who are

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<v Speaker 3>Well, before I tell you that, I got to ask

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<v Speaker 3>you a question. Will we know a week from today

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<v Speaker 3>who the next president will be? Will we know on

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not not in you know, regardless of outcome, I

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<v Speaker 1>least hope we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Leading everyone up on the through what we went through

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two thousand with Bush and in twenty and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>with January sixth I have Max Blumenthal. I have Dennis Fritz,

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<v Speaker 3>a very interesting guy, the highest ranking commissioned officer in

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<v Speaker 3>the Air Force. Wrote a book about all the lies

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<v Speaker 3>the government told us to trick us into Iran excuse

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<v Speaker 3>me Afghanistan and Iraq. The Defense Department told him not

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<v Speaker 3>to publish it. He published it anyway. He's coming on

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<v Speaker 3>as well as his colleague from the Air Force. Karen Kratkowski,

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<v Speaker 3>is one of my regulars. I just was introduced to

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<v Speaker 3>Dennis the other day. Charming, gregarious, fearless guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful. And nobody loves someone who speaks truth to

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<v Speaker 1>power more than me. So I love you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Ennita Politano, and congratulations. The Yankees at least got

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<v Speaker 1>the kept their foot in the door. Eleven. We're eleven

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<v Speaker 1>to four. Boy. They held off on pulling out the

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<v Speaker 1>big guns until the you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Anthony Vulpi, this is from around here, not very

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<v Speaker 3>far from where I lived, and I was asleep when

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<v Speaker 3>he hit that Grand Slam. We didn't know about it

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<v Speaker 3>until I got up this morning. But everybody's going crazy

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<v Speaker 3>over it. But you're right. For them to come back

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<v Speaker 3>four games in a row has never been done. One

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<v Speaker 3>team came back four games in a row, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was in the ALC Championship. It wasn't the World Series.

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<v Speaker 3>Red Bustin Red Sox against the Yankees. The Yankees won

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<v Speaker 3>the first three in Boston won the next four. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought I was gonna die.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's time. Maybe this year is redemption time, Judge,

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<v Speaker 1>Editor paul A Tano, God bless you, sir. I'll look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to next Wednesday already we'll have a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. I suppose in the aftermath of the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Will thank you Brian all the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you brother. Eight forty four or fifty five KSY

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