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Speaker 2: offer this public service announcement. Our next guest'll be giving
Speaker 2: out not one, but two full sized candy bars to
Speaker 2: the first five hundred kids tomorrow. Which houses belongs to
Speaker 2: the judge? Well, that's easy. Look for the giant inflatable
Speaker 2: ten foot constitution in the front yard. That's right. The
Speaker 2: judge is next, Chuck Ingram fifty five KRC the talk station.
Speaker 1: You're screwed now, Judgeavons god right, Brian, I was terrified
Speaker 1: I was going to give out my address. I go
Speaker 1: Chuck would never do that. I was gonna say, you
Speaker 1: live on a farm. I bet you don't even get
Speaker 1: anybody knocking on your door. I don't want to reveal
Speaker 1: any trade secrets.
Speaker 3: Or any there. We're so far out on the sticks
Speaker 3: no one does that. But I have to tell you
Speaker 3: an inflatable constitution that is very, very creative, you know, and.
Speaker 1: It satisfies all of your decorating needs for any holiday.
Speaker 1: I would say you can use that all year line right.
Speaker 3: And he might even be reading my colle Brian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Judge the Follatona. It is always a pleasure to
Speaker 1: have you on the program, and I always encourage my
Speaker 1: listeners to check out your podcast, Judging Freedom, which we'll
Speaker 1: find out who you're going to be talking to at
Speaker 1: the end of the segment, as we always do, and
Speaker 1: let us launch into tweetled ee and tweetled the I'm
Speaker 1: the subject matter of your column. I'm fortunate enough every
Speaker 1: week to get early. It comes out tonight and I'll
Speaker 1: recommend my listeners read it. I kind of got the
Speaker 1: impression you were I don't know about agitated. You were
Speaker 1: on fire when you sat down to write this column.
Speaker 1: I think you were overwhelmed with uh. Maybe not necessarily discussed,
Speaker 1: but it's a word that kind of comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Not know that I'm right or wrong on that, but
Speaker 1: that was just the impression I got.
Speaker 3: Two sides say, you know me very well, and you
Speaker 3: have a very good handle on what my attitude has been.
Speaker 3: And you know I'll speak candidly with you, even though
Speaker 3: I know there are hundreds of thousands of people listening
Speaker 3: to us. Now it's a little I'm a little torn
Speaker 3: because I have known Donald Trump personally since nineteen eighty six,
Speaker 3: and it is well known that he interviewed me twice
Speaker 3: for the Supreme Court of the United States. People would say, well,
Speaker 3: what are you crazy? Aren't you loyal to your friends?
Speaker 3: The guy almost put you on the Supreme Court. Yes
Speaker 3: and yes, but you know, there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that he stands for which are contrary to my understanding
Speaker 3: of the Constitution. The same thing with Kamala Harris, whom
Speaker 3: I only met twice. I can't say that I'm friends
Speaker 3: with Harris as I am with him. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: a gratifying to know on a personal basis the former
Speaker 3: and probably future president. But I have to be intellectually
Speaker 3: honest and faithful. As you know, I like to say
Speaker 3: to first principles.
Speaker 1: First principles, and as I rarely respond, you know, in
Speaker 1: an ad nauseum resid to your column, but I actually
Speaker 1: took it upon myself to respond about the immigration component,
Speaker 1: many many wonderful points. And you know I regularly you
Speaker 1: and my with our libertarian and constitutionally based principles, pretty
Speaker 1: much uniformally agree on anything but everything. But I understand
Speaker 1: the traditional libertarian mentality when it comes to borders, and
Speaker 1: we have the freedom as free people to travel. I
Speaker 1: get all that, but that reality is completely undermined by
Speaker 1: the social welfare state that we've created here. So we've
Speaker 1: got a system of laws and rules that allow pretty
Speaker 1: much every human being, both citizens and non legal and illegal,
Speaker 1: to grab a hold and take advantage of all of
Speaker 1: the large jets of the American taxpayers heat down upon
Speaker 1: them by law by the federal governments, state governments, and
Speaker 1: local governments. Quite often there are local programs that obligate,
Speaker 1: you know, the homeless to be housed. Oh, that's fine,
Speaker 1: until you get overwhelmed with one hundred thousand or more
Speaker 1: of them. Then it's like we ran out of places
Speaker 1: to keep them. That's a transpair burden, and that interrupts
Speaker 1: the free flow of humanity that you and I normally
Speaker 1: would embrace.
Speaker 3: And that welfare state is absolutely and utterly contrary to
Speaker 3: our first principles, which is that the government can't take
Speaker 3: money from us to give it away, can't take from
Speaker 3: the haves to give to the have nuts. I think
Speaker 3: that a lot of people come here because they want
Speaker 3: a better life, they want freedom, they want to be
Speaker 3: able to prosper. But a lot of people, more than
Speaker 3: in the first group, come here because they expect free
Speaker 3: stuff from the government. And the Supreme Court in a
Speaker 3: terrible opinion called po versus Texas, where Texas tried to
Speaker 3: deny free education to immigrant children, Supreme Court said, you
Speaker 3: can't do it. Whatever you provide to your children of
Speaker 3: the people that were children that were born there, you
Speaker 3: have to provide to them, and then they expanded it
Speaker 3: to food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, and education. That type of
Speaker 3: ruling and its implementation by the Congress and by various
Speaker 3: state legislatures is the root of the problem. Freedom to
Speaker 3: travel is not the root of the problem. Now, on
Speaker 3: this freedom to travel, there are libertarians look at it
Speaker 3: two different ways. The natural law libertarians of which I
Speaker 3: am one, believe that the right to travel is a
Speaker 3: fundamental liberty. You can go wherever you want. The property
Speaker 3: rights oriented libertarians, which is most of the libertarians, believe
Speaker 3: that the owner of property can exclude whoever he wants
Speaker 3: from his own property, which means if the government owns
Speaker 3: a road or a highway, it can exclude people from
Speaker 3: that road or highway based upon standards that it establishes,
Speaker 3: like you've got to be a citizen, or you've got
Speaker 3: to do this, this, and this before you can come
Speaker 3: into the country. I understand, I understand both arguments, but
Speaker 3: you are correct, my dear friend. The root of the
Speaker 3: problem is the American welfare state. And I don't know how.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that can possibly be undone short
Speaker 3: of the United States of America federal government collapsing like
Speaker 3: the old Soviet Union collapsed, which I think will happen
Speaker 3: in the lifetime of your grandchildren.
Speaker 1: And that's what disturbs me most about this. It is,
Speaker 1: you know, this sort of you know, we have this
Speaker 1: bleeding herd mentality, and we need to help the poor.
Speaker 1: And you know, we can read the inscription on the
Speaker 1: Statute of Liberty, even though it's not and has never
Speaker 1: been a law of the land. It was a poem
Speaker 1: or a little thing written by some independent person. But
Speaker 1: you know this idea, Oh we're compassionate. Your ancestors cane here.
Speaker 1: But you know what, yeah, mine did. And my great
Speaker 1: great grandfather came off the boat from Ireland, went through
Speaker 1: Ellis Island. They probably gave him a quick updown, physical
Speaker 1: check and decided on the fly whether or not he
Speaker 1: could come in or not, and that was it. Then
Speaker 1: left to his own devices, he worked, got a job
Speaker 1: on the railroad, provided for his family, and then of
Speaker 1: course here I am generations later, living off the wonderful
Speaker 1: reality that I live in a free country. But that
Speaker 1: can't survive with the massive social welfare state. That all
Speaker 1: you need to do is look at our deficit, our
Speaker 1: expenditures of taxpayer dollars which far exceed the amount they
Speaker 1: take in to realize what you just said is inevitable.
Speaker 1: It's like the slowest train coming down the tunnel. You
Speaker 1: can see it. You know you could stop it, but
Speaker 1: you don't lift a finger to do it.
Speaker 3: Gret, but get getting back if I could. To my
Speaker 3: column twittled tweedledumb, which is meant to mock the similarities
Speaker 3: between Vice President Harris and former President Trump on issue
Speaker 3: like war and peace and debt and personal freedom surveillance.
Speaker 3: You know, the Trump thing really is a head scratcher.
Speaker 3: He was victimized so exquisitely and egregiously by FBI, NSA, GCHQ,
Speaker 3: that's the British spying entity surveillance, and yet he signed
Speaker 3: and indicated he will continue to sign extensions of the
Speaker 3: legislation that permit that to happen. So I was really saying,
Speaker 3: there's not any difference between the two of them other
Speaker 3: than personality, other than emotion, other than likability on those
Speaker 3: key issues of war and peace, debt, they're both going
Speaker 3: to spend trillions more than they have and surveillance. If
Speaker 3: you want to get back to immigration, the same court
Speaker 3: that said in the nineteen seventies will provide the same
Speaker 3: basic social safety net to immigrants as you do to citizens.
Speaker 3: Will say to him, there's no such thing as mass
Speaker 3: deportation in the United States. You want to kick somebody out,
Speaker 3: you have to have a trial, right, That's an impossibility
Speaker 3: if anybody thinks it's going to be a trial, a
Speaker 3: literal trial, for every person that they want to de port.
Speaker 3: So this is an intractable problem. The problem is intractable,
Speaker 3: and the proposed solution is intractable as long as the
Speaker 3: welfare state stays here.
Speaker 1: Indeed, and I understand from a due process standpoint exactly that,
Speaker 1: And that's why I pointed out to you. I acknowledge
Speaker 1: readily that mass deportation is virtually impossible from a fiscal,
Speaker 1: a geopolitical, and a logistical springing from any of those
Speaker 1: three issues. If a country doesn't want to take back
Speaker 1: a guy that you say you're deporting, how you're going
Speaker 1: to get rid of him, even if they've been through
Speaker 1: the due process hearing. We've got ten years of backlog
Speaker 1: of these cases that are supposed to be Some of
Speaker 1: these people.
Speaker 3: Who got here illegally and whose children were born here
Speaker 3: are so Americanized. If they were in a room with us,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't know who they were. You're gonna throw those
Speaker 3: people out of the country. I mean, this is just
Speaker 3: going to cost such and you're gonna do it without
Speaker 3: a trial. This is gonna cause such social turmoil. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, the crowd at Madison Square Garden the other
Speaker 3: night will roar its approval, but I'm not so sure
Speaker 3: the rest of the country will well.
Speaker 1: And again, walking through it, you can say it to
Speaker 1: separate yourself from the opposition, which in this case Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris and open borders and embracing that notwithstanding the challenges
Speaker 1: we face because of the welfare state. But to contrast, starkly,
Speaker 1: you had a demonstrable record to sow that you limited
Speaker 1: the number of illegal immigrants, You put policies in place
Speaker 1: which stemmed the flow. You have a stark contrast. So
Speaker 1: maybe as a matter of desperation, we're gonna kick them
Speaker 1: all out comes out of your mouth. And then when
Speaker 1: you're in off as you're like, well, maybe we can't.
Speaker 1: You and I are pointing out that you probably you can't,
Speaker 1: or it's going to be this decade's long challenge.
Speaker 3: Right right, And I get the way politics works. I
Speaker 3: mean George Orwell in nineteen eighty four pointed out in
Speaker 3: his book nineteen eighty four pointed out the advantages of
Speaker 3: having an enemy that everybody hates and that works to
Speaker 3: get votes. And Trump has chosen it to be immigrants.
Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with that. In one respect,
Speaker 3: it's a brilliant political maneuver because they're not in a
Speaker 3: position to speak back. They have to rely on the
Speaker 3: sort of bleeding heart, knee jerk lefties that want them
Speaker 3: to come in the country to defend them. Why do
Speaker 3: they want them to come in the country. They want
Speaker 3: them to vote Democrats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't always happen. Look at the Cubans in Florida. They
Speaker 3: became successful.
Speaker 1: And Republicans public. Well, if you realize.
Speaker 3: I'm generalizing, Brian, I'm trying to manifest my understanding that
Speaker 3: I have a handle on both sides of this, and
Speaker 3: it is an intractable problem. But the more debt the
Speaker 3: federal government accumulates, the more foreign military basis it pays
Speaker 3: for the more wars it engages in, the less stable
Speaker 3: the federal government becomes.
Speaker 1: And some will argue that that is indeed the goal.
Speaker 1: Judge Annapolitano Judging Freedom your podcast, and I'm a listeners,
Speaker 1: tune in and find it all the time. Who are
Speaker 1: you going to be talking to today?
Speaker 3: Well, before I tell you that, I got to ask
Speaker 3: you a question. Will we know a week from today
Speaker 3: who the next president will be? Will we know on
Speaker 3: Wednesday morning?
Speaker 1: Probably not not in you know, regardless of outcome, I
Speaker 1: least hope we do.
Speaker 3: Leading everyone up on the through what we went through
Speaker 3: twenty two thousand with Bush and in twenty and twenty
Speaker 3: with January sixth I have Max Blumenthal. I have Dennis Fritz,
Speaker 3: a very interesting guy, the highest ranking commissioned officer in
Speaker 3: the Air Force. Wrote a book about all the lies
Speaker 3: the government told us to trick us into Iran excuse
Speaker 3: me Afghanistan and Iraq. The Defense Department told him not
Speaker 3: to publish it. He published it anyway. He's coming on
Speaker 3: as well as his colleague from the Air Force. Karen Kratkowski,
Speaker 3: is one of my regulars. I just was introduced to
Speaker 3: Dennis the other day. Charming, gregarious, fearless guy.
Speaker 1: That's wonderful. And nobody loves someone who speaks truth to
Speaker 1: power more than me. So I love you so much,
Speaker 1: Judge Ennita Politano, and congratulations. The Yankees at least got
Speaker 1: the kept their foot in the door. Eleven. We're eleven
Speaker 1: to four. Boy. They held off on pulling out the
Speaker 1: big guns until the you.
Speaker 3: Know, Anthony Vulpi, this is from around here, not very
Speaker 3: far from where I lived, and I was asleep when
Speaker 3: he hit that Grand Slam. We didn't know about it
Speaker 3: until I got up this morning. But everybody's going crazy
Speaker 3: over it. But you're right. For them to come back
Speaker 3: four games in a row has never been done. One
Speaker 3: team came back four games in a row, but it
Speaker 3: was in the ALC Championship. It wasn't the World Series.
Speaker 3: Red Bustin Red Sox against the Yankees. The Yankees won
Speaker 3: the first three in Boston won the next four. I
Speaker 3: thought I was gonna die.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's time. Maybe this year is redemption time, Judge,
Speaker 1: Editor paul A Tano, God bless you, sir. I'll look
Speaker 1: forward to next Wednesday already we'll have a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about. I suppose in the aftermath of the election.
Speaker 3: Will thank you Brian all the best.
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