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smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for

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your support. Charlie Kirk always wanted to be remembered for courage,

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for his faith. That's what he said, And so, as

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Jordan Boyd writes over at the Federalist dot com, it

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was only fitting that more than one hundred million people

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around the world heard the good news that Jesus Christ

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saves at his memorial service yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I watch the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I was not aware it was supposed to go as

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long as it did. I thought it was only supposed

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to go about three hours. It ended up ended up

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going like five. Highly recommend it. If you have the

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time to watch it, you can break it apart. There

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are lots of a lot of speakers, each one running

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between you like three to five minutes. Most of them

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three to five minutes. As you got towards the end

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of the program, people spoke for longer periods of time.

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It started with more than an hour of worship focused

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on spreading the faith that Charlie had in God. I

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will tell you that as I watched it, and this

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was just my reaction, and of course over the course

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of five hours there was there was a lot of

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different people, a lot of things that were said, a

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lot of performances. All the performances, the musical performances were amazing,

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and I found a lot more. I'd say I felt

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like it was predominantly about God and Christ, which I

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thought was entirely appropriate for a memorial service for somebody

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who was as practicing a Christian as Charlie Kirk was.

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So a lot of profoundly moving moments, a lot of

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comforting moments, a lot of defiance. Yeah, there were political

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messages as well, which I could.

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Speaker 2: Have frankly done without.

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Speaker 1: I didn't need to hear any of that, but I

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understand that was the work of Charlie Kirk's life. And

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there's a comment here I'm gonna play from his pastor,

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Rob McCoy, who explained why there was also some cringey moments,

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which like honestly, every funeral and memorial I think I've

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ever been to had some cringy moments. It's just like,

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it's what happens, right. I saw people were questioning why

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there were fireworks they did like sparklers like these, uh

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you know it's like floor mounted or ceiling mounted. Uh,

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just like sparklers that were just that were just like

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constantly going off, and people were like, oh my god,

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I have that stuff on there. And I admit, like

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I watched it too, and I was like, that's odd

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for a memorial service, But when you think of it

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in terms of a celebration of life, it makes a

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little bit more sense. But also according to Andrew Colvett,

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who worked with Charlie at Turning Point, USA, he said,

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the staff at Turning Point loves that effect. They see

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it as one of the event signature for all of

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their events that they do, and like it was a

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marvel to behold the amount of planning necessary to put

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together this kind of a service that had like the

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top level security that you would afford like the Super Bowl.

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You had like every member of the cabinet was there.

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You had the President, the Vice president. You had all

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of these, you know, famous people on the right that

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are targets for more violence, and.

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Speaker 2: It went off without a hitch.

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Speaker 1: And the amount of planning that was done in such

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a short period of time by a whole operation that

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was mourning, it's remarkable, absolutely remarkable what they were able to.

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Speaker 2: Pull off yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But here's the other thing is that Charlie Kirk loved

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those special effects. He loved them, and so as Covett

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Andrew Corvette pointed out, they did this because the staff

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loves it. Charlie loved it. It was a part of

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their events. And he said, we do not grieve the

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way the world grieves. We refuse to let the evil

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that killed Charlie rob us of our joy in remembering

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his incredible life and legacy. See, if you've ever been

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to a celebration of life versus like just a funeral,

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you know they're different.

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Speaker 2: And that's what this.

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Speaker 3: Was.

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Speaker 1: That's the way I interpreted it as more of a

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celebration of Charlie Kirk's life. And I do have some

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audio I'm going to play here. In fact, let me

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start with Pastor Rob McCoy. This was Charlie's pastor, and

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he was the first speaker I believe, of the afternoon.

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Speaker 4: He kept calling me his pastor, and I stopped him.

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Speaker 5: I said, Charlie, since the president's got an elect your

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stock has risen through the stratosphere, and I don't see

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much of you. I mean, he wasn't a very good congregant.

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He was on the road three hundred and twenty days

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a year. But he said, Rob, not only are you

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my pastor, but you're America's pastor.

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Speaker 4: And I said, Charlie, if.

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Speaker 5: We were at a tabling event on a campus where

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you had the table set, prove me wrong, I'd win.

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And he looked at me with that sheepish grin that

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he always has Doug gone and if he wasn't right,

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I mean, I wasn't America's pastor two minutes ago, and I.

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Speaker 4: Won't be after this. But for right now, he proved

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me wrong.

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Speaker 1: He offered insight. I thought this was really profound into

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why Charlie Kirk was so politically active, why this was

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the work of his life.

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Speaker 5: Now my responsibility and trusted to be by my friend

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and his wife. You're gonna hear of what Charlie did

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but I'm here today to tell you the why in

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what he did. The why brought him the courage, The

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why brought him the wisdom and the strength. The why

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is the one that Charlie wanted to welcome as the

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guest of honor.

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Speaker 4: The guest of honor. His resume is long. He's the

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King of Glory. He's the Prince of Peace. He's the

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Savior of the world. He's the Living God.

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Speaker 5: He's the God of all mercy and grace, the total

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embodiment of love, the total embodiment of truth. And he's

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here today to call his children back to him.

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Speaker 4: From the thin veil of heaven.

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Speaker 5: Charlie declares to all earthly powers and principalities who will

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gather here, they have come into the presence of the

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God of all creation. Charlie wanted his Savior to be

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the guest of honor. He wanted all of you to

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receive this gift from him, the why and what he did.

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Charlie was never afraid, because he knew his life was

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secure in the hand of God. Jesus left the glory

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of Heaven's throne for the humiliation of an earthly cross.

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He was fully tempted yet was without sin. For those

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of you who struggle with the word sin, it's real simple.

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It's an archer's term. Where the bullseye is and where

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the arrow lands that's called the sin distance. How far

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are you fallen from perfection? And there are none righteous, no,

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not one. We've all missed the mark the bullseye, and

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we try to get to God by our efforts, but

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there is no effort that will bring us back into

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the presence of a righteous God.

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Speaker 4: You see, the wages of sin is death.

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Speaker 5: Charlie knew this, and at an early age he entrusted

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his life to the savior of the world. Jesus came

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to this earth, was tempted in all ways, yet was

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without sin, was crucified upon a cross.

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Speaker 4: His blood was poured out, because blood.

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Speaker 5: Must be shed for the remission of sins, and his

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death upon that cross was sufficient for all the world's sins,

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but only efficient for those who, like Charlie, would receive

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him as their savior. Jesus has come to seek and

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saved that which is lost.

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Speaker 2: And I would say this.

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Speaker 4: To all of you. The Lord loves you.

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Speaker 5: He wants to save you, He wants to give you

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a new life. He wants to cover the multitude of

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your sins by the blood he shed upon the cross.

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The Bible says, if you believe in your heart and

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you confess with your tongue Jesus's Lord, you will be

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saved to the.

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Speaker 4: Glory of the Father.

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Speaker 5: You see, Charlie looked at politics as an on ramp

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to Jesus. He knew if he could get all of

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you rowing in the streams of liberty, you'd come to

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its source, and that's the Lord.

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Speaker 2: There it is.

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Speaker 1: Politics was the on ramp to Jesus that if you're

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rowing in the waters of liberty, you will find its source,

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and that's God. So I did expect there to be

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political speeches and comments during the memorial service yesterday, and

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there were some. I'm not going to give you a

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lot of those, if any, because to me, it was

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all secondary, right, because those were just the waters.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather focus on the source.

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Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's,

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and before he died, my mom and my dad took

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care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago,

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there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers

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and family, but things are different today because of the

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work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of

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Western Carolina. It's a great organization with awesome people with

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huge hearts. I've been a supporter for twenty five years.

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This cause means a lot to me. I participate in

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the annual Walk to end Alzheimer's and I'm leading a

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Charlotte team again this year, and it's called once again

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Pete's Pack. You can sign up and you can join

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the team and walk with us. It's on October eighteenth,

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that truest field. Sign up at alz dot org slash

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Pete's Pack. There's also a link at thepetepod dot com.

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There's also a link in the description of this podcast. Also,

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I'll be am seeing the Gastonia Walk on October eleventh,

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and so you can make a team and join that

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one too, or make a donation and help me hit

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my goal of five thousand dollars. If you do, I

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really appreciate it. There are a bunch of other walks

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all over the Carolinas. You can go to alz dot

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org slash Walk for all the dates and locations. We're

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closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's. Can you help us

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get there? Will you walk with me? For a different future,

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for families, for more time for treatments. This is why

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we walk. We heard from Charlie's pastor Rob McCoy, old

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fashioned alter call, right, And if you've never been, if

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I know, there are a lot of transplants from up

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north that probably have never seen something like this at

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a funeral or a memorial service. When I first came

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down south, and I was younger, and so I didn't

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attend a lot of funerals because all of the people

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I knew were all younger. It was something I had

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never seen until oh, probably my thirties. But I've seen

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a lot of them now as I've gotten older, and

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you know, I know more people who are passing away,

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and so this is pretty standard too. Next up was

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Larry Arne, who is the president of Hillsdale College, and

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you can tell this deeply affected him in his comments here.

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Speaker 6: He became a friend of mine because I interrogated him

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one time.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen year olds are my specialty.

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Speaker 6: I asked him some questions he couldn't answer, and he

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was already becoming famous, and I noticed his reaction.

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Speaker 2: He said, what should I do?

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Speaker 6: And I said, well, you have to suffer. If you

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want to grow, you have to suffer hard to learn

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into the night, crack the dawn in the morning. Start

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with the Bible, read the classics, study the founding of America.

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In those places you will find that there's a letter

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that reaches up toward God.

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Speaker 4: And at the bottom of.

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Speaker 6: It is the ordinary good things that are around us everywhere.

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If we can call them by their names, they have being,

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and the beings of the good things are figments of God.

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You will find that article in Aristotle, you will find

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it in the Bible. You will find it in Madison

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and Jefferson. How do I learn that? He said, And

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I said, you have to suffer. You have to study,

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You have to think. I thought I'd never hear from

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him again. Within a month, he got hold of my

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cell phone number and he texted me a copy of

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a certificate of completion of a Hillsdale College online course.

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He would go on to do that thirty one times.

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I keep a list in my head of the six

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or eight young people, and I'm very privileged. I get

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to know many inspiring young people who.

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Speaker 2: Are the best I ever saw.

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Speaker 6: Charlie is the only one who is never a full

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time student at Hillsdale College who was on that list.

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We will miss him dearly.

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Speaker 1: He went on to say that he and his wife

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have set up a college scholarship for Charlie's two kids,

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and that he's granting an honorary degree to Charlie, which

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is the highest honor college can bestow upon someone who

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did not go to that college. Obviously, he had a

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bunch of staffers speak at his memorial, people that worked

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with Charlie, one of.

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Speaker 2: Whom Mikey McCoy.

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Speaker 1: And this was a fella who Charlie met and Charlie

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told him, Hey, don't go to college. Come work for me,

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and McCoy did so, just like Charlie didn't go to

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college based on advice from a mentor of his who said,

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there's no reason for you to do that. You can

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always go back to college. You're building something else right now.

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Mikey McCoy, he was defiant. He said, we'll never surrender

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and are resolved to live free from life lies and

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seek out what is true. We will respectfully, boldly challenge

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what is accepted by culture in order to seek out

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what is acceptable and true to God Almighty alone.

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Speaker 7: My friend was martyred for using his voice to engage

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in peaceful dialogue. Charlie's assassin thought that he could steal

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and silence his voice by putting a bullet in his neck.

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In the words of sore and Keeregarden, the tyrant dies

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and his rule is over. The martyr dies in His

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rule has just begun.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: This is why people on the right are saying and

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have been saying that. A lot of our friends on

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the left and in the media, but I repeat myself,

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have misjudged this moment.

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Speaker 2: This isn't going away right.

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seven for the details. Going over some of the highlights

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from the Charlie Kirk memorial service yesterday, the stat I

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saw and read to you earlier one hundred million views

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of the service yesterday remarkable. One of the speakers named

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Stacy Sheridan. She worked at Turning Point, USA, and she

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said she viewed Charlie as sort of a younger brother.

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And she told a story just of her own personal

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tragedy she lost her husband to cancer and during the

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and he died on their daughter's ninth birthday. And he

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battled the cancer for two years, and Charlie would constantly

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call her to check in on her, check on the family,

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see if she needed anything. He sent her critical medication

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and an oxygen machine directly to her house and she said,

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she still has no idea how he was able to

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do that. She said, he helped because that's what a

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Christian is supposed to do. When she apologized to him

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repeatedly over the two years for you know, not being

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able to get into work, and she had to, you know,

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put some of her responsibilities aside because she had to

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care for her husband. And he would always say family first.

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And then she lost her home in the Pacific Palisades fire,

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and Charlie said, well, you know, you should move to Arizona,

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where Talking Point or sorry, Turning Point, USA is located.

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Speaker 2: And she did.

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Speaker 8: And then she said this while and during our various tragedies,

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my daughter Grace would ask me at least once, why

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would God.

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Speaker 9: Do this to us? Mom?

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Speaker 8: My honest and only answer was, someday we will look

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at each other and instantly know why all of this

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had to happen, and it will be for something far

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greater than we can ever imagine. In my first conversation

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with Grace after Charlie's death, Grace said to me through

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tears over the phone, Mom, this is the answer to

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my question.

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Speaker 4: This is our why.

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Speaker 2: Now we can be there for Erica.

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Speaker 8: And Gigi at mac the way they.

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Speaker 4: Were there for us.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that comes through when you hear

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and for a lot of people they may have never

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heard have heard this kind of eulogizing in these types

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of Christian sentiments expressed. Which is also another reason why

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yesterday's service I think was so profound, as that a

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lot of people may not be accustomed to hearing these

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types of messages, is that this is all about your

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personal not just relationship with Christ and God, but it's

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your personal responsibility the things that Christ called you to do,

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not to offload that responsibility to somebody else or some

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entity like government. I've said for years, right, if we

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on the right Christians want government to do less, we

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need to do more. There was no reason for the

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government to do things if those things are being addressed

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by individuals, by churches. Frank Tuik he was a mentor

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to Charlie Kirk. He's a Christian apologist guy and author.

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And he was there when Charlie was murdered, just five

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feet away, standing off to Charlie's side, and so he

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was there with him in the vehicle as well as

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they raced to the hospital, and he told the audience

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that Charlie Kirk was killed instantly, there was no suffering.

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Speaker 10: Now, I want you to know that Charlie right now

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is in heaven. Not because he was a great husband

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and father, not because he saved millions of kids out

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of darkness on college campuses, not because he changed minds

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and chased votes to save the country, not because he

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sacrificed himself for his savior. Charlie Kirk is in heaven

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because his Savior sacrificed himself for Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: So over the next hour, then after this weird speeches

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from Stephen Miller, Susie Wiles, Tucker Carlson, then Telsea Gaber

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spoke and she said, Charlie took his message to the

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very places where that message was needed most.

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Speaker 9: And Charlie did this so well. He was winning so much,

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winning so much so that the forces of darkness, hate,

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and evil were threatened by him and tried to silence him.

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History shows this dark pattern that when ideas cannot withstand scrutiny,

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whether it's the ideology of so called religious fanatics or

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political fanatics, their defenders, terrified that their weak ideas will

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be exposed for what they are, turned to intimidation, censorship,

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and violence. They kill and terrorize their opponents, hoping to

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silence them. But in this evil that we have experienced

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that Charlie faced their flawed ideology as exposed. Because by

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trying to silence Charlie, his voice is now louder than ever,

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His message is more powerful and impactful than ever. The

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truths that he spoke have spread hundredfold.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: This is why I'm not sure people who hate Charlie

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Kirk call everybody on the right Nazis and fascists and

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every sort of phobe and ist. This is why I'm

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not so sure that you recognize what is happening and

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what has happened in the wake of this murder. I

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said it right after the assassination when we came back

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on the air. It is very much like the line

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from the Star Wars movie You strike me down, I

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will become more powerful.

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Speaker 2: That's what happens.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't happen, as she says here, it doesn't happen

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when you strike down the tyrant. The tyranny ends. But

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the message and the attempts to spread the message, those

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are only threatening to people who would use violence and

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intimidation against you because they cannot debate the ideas. They

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cannot answer for the ideas. That's why I've said for

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years also, unchallenged ideas are easy to hold. If you

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can defend your ideas, then you debate them, and if

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you can't, then you should either scrap them. But if

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you kind of like build your entire personality and everything

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then that's why we see this this, you know, resorting

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to violence and cancelation and intimidation. It's been going on

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Speaker 3: Hello Chris, good morning, Pee, how you going, Hey, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Good, good afternoon. What's going on.

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Speaker 3: I've just been listening to you for a long time, man,

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and now I got it. Just I just felt called

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to say, dude, thank you for who you are, for

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being a truth seeker. I'm one who has very limited

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patients with people who I would say are blind, and

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I am reminded in the last couple of weeks just

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how I have to stop, like I have to drop

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to my knees and thank God that I can see

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that the veil has been lifted from my eyes, and

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those that can't are to be dealt with with more

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patience and kindness because they're blind. Like it's they're cursed

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in a way. I'm not trying to put myself on

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some morally superior pedestal. I just have the ability to

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see the highest order. I'm not saying that I live

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it or I am, but I certainly can tell. And

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men like you who just you know, put me in

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my place at times and remind me how long about

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things I have been And I just appreciate you man,

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Thank you. I'll watch, yes, sir, well.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I think though there there requires a level of humility

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to say what you have said about your relationship with God,

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to get down on your knees and to recognize that

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that relationship, you know, And I think that's what inspires

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so much hatred from a lot of people that are,

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as you say blind. I always get this suspicion that

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they kind of know right, and and rather than humble themselves,

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they they lash out and deny, you know, because that

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allows them to continue doing what they're doing, living the

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way they would prefer to live.

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Speaker 2: And I think.

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Speaker 1: That that was also Charlie Kirk's mission was to open

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people's eyes and to give especially young men a different

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direction when they are ready to see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the older we get, the harder it is

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to realize that maybe I've got this wrong. Maybe I

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actually am not the bad guy in the situation, but

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I just I've been wrong in this situation. And the

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more steadfast and the more dug in we get, the

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older we get, it's just harder and harder and harder

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to rip that part of us that's wrong off and

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let it die and let something new grow there. I mean,

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it's really difficult. It hurts.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what Larry Arne was saying from Hillsdale College, right,

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he said, in order to grow, you have to suffer.

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And a lot of people don't want to do that.

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They don't want to put in the work, you know,

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they don't want to challenge their own ideas that have

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become so central to who they think they are.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Well, you keep sending that suffering my way, peepe.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, I'm gonna try my hardest, right all right,

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bless you. I appreciate the call, man, Thank you along

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those lines. There was a headline at the Wall Street

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Jo to listen to this invoking a quote revival. GOP

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hopes Kirk's legacy unites and endures. They hope the slain

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activists work will carry them into a new era of

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influence and dominance. Hugh Hewitt talks your host out in California.

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He said, this headline illustrates a point secular media, not

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just media staffed overwhelmingly bi secular people, but secular media

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lack the language and background to understand yesterday's service. It

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was the largest witness to the objective truth of Christianity

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in history. The regular roster of guests and sources who

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comment on matters politics and policy, they're not equipped to

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analyze or even comment coherently on what they saw. Some

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won't even be inclined to try. It was not primarily

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a political event. It was a religious event, and a

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uniquely powerful one. Reported that way, and you won't miss

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by much. Though it is hard, the Christian view is

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a large one.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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