Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Today,
the Hulu documentary about Victoria's Secret Les Wexner, Jeffrey Epstein
and the rest of it drops on Hulu And as
soon as I'm done here in the studio, I'm gonna
go and check it out, give it a look and
see what's what. But until then, we have another article
from the New York Post talking about this documentary, So
let's dive in. The author of this article is Asia
Grace and this article was published by the New York Post.
It was a match made in heaven or maybe in hell,
the sexual deviant and the lingerie demigod. For decades, disgraced
financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was one of the closest friends
of Victoria's secret billionaire Les Wexner, who is eighty four.
In fact, the late Khn, who in August twenty nineteen
at sixty six, committed suicide in the cell of a
Manhattan Federal detention center allegedly while awaiting trial in his
sex trafficking case, once joked that he and the retail
baron share a brain. It should be noted that Wexner
has claimed complete ignorance of Epstein's sexual misdeeds. Of course
he has, and I've said it a million times. I
think the whole Epstein stole a bunch of money from
me was something that him and Epstein had planned a
long time ago as a cover in case Epstein ever
got popped. They came up with this whole entire plot. Look,
if you get nailed, we'll say that you stole money
from me, and that'll give me the distance that I
need to make sure I don't get caught up in this.
Because they knew nobody was ever gonna charge them with RICO, right,
they knew that they were gonna be able to find
a way to slide, meaning all of these money men
around Epstein, and if Epstein ever got nailed, well, they'd
be able to cover their attracts and use this as
a bit of a shield. And while I can't prove that,
that is certainly my theory and what I've been speculating
for quite some time now that whole entire thing about
the money that was stolen allegedly by Epstein from Wexner
was nothing more than a cover up to mask the
relationship that these guys really had. But in the forthcoming
Hulu docu series Victoria's Secrets, Angels and Demons, out Thursday Today.
Associates of the unlikely duo Wexner, a self made magnate
from the Midwest, and Epstein, a college dropout who smooth
talked his way into roles in New York's financial District,
say the two were bound by more than ambition. That
is certainly the truth. These guys were connected in many,
many different ways, and there are even some that say
they were romantically inclined. Now, I can't speak on that
one way or another. I don't know, so I can't
say if it's true or if it's not. But some
pretty strong evidence has been provided that at the very
least less Wexner was infatuated with Epstein. So who knows
what the real behind the door, you know, behind the
doors type of relationship these guys had. But there is
no doubt that Les Wexner was a key component to
everything Epstein had going on. So the fact that Wexner
has not been met with more scrutiny and more of
a full blitzkrieg by the legacy media is just unbelievable.
They each needed each other to survive Wexner had the
money that Epstein was seeking, and Wexner got from Epstein
the glamour and smoothness that he was seeking, said Cindy
Fetus Fields, the former CEO of Victoria's Secret, direct in
the three part Saga, directed and produced by Matt Tiernauer
of The Reagans and Studio fifty four fame. So I've
never seen The Reagans and I've seen Studio fifty four.
Decent movie, not bad at all. Nothing I could say, oh, well, eh,
this guy's a terrible director, or he doesn't know what
he's doing. Nothing like that. Pretty good movie. So I'm
guessing that this documentary is going to be pretty decent
as well. Now let's not get too ahead of ourselves, however,
and think it's going to be groundbreaking for those of
us who have been following this case, it's gonna be
more of the same, right, more of a refresher course,
if you will, as opposed to some people who this
will be their first exposure to even knowing that Les
Wexner was involved with Epstein, And a lot of that
again falls to the legacy media and their terrible job
throughout this whole entire ordeal. Their relationship with a seemingly
lopsided quid pro quo. However, well, I don't believe that,
To be honest with you, I believe that what Epstein
was getting from Wexner was not only that money, but
the financial credibility that comes along with handling the money
of somebody like less Wexner. We can't discount that and
act like it's not a big deal. It was. It
fortified Epstein's reputation with other billionaires. Right, They're saying to themselves, well,
if Wexner is letting Epstein control his money, then maybe
we should get in on this too. While the clothing
tycoon credited in the dock as the inventor of fast
fashion a masked a net worth of more than five
billion via his thong of trendy apparel shops, Epstein, who
Wexner anointed as his money manager, had a lot less
to offer on paper, And again, what would draw Wexner
to Epstein? What was Epstein offer that Wexner wanted? Well,
we all know what Epstein was involved in. We all
know that he was offering young girls. We all know
what Epstein had at his island, So what would Wexner
want from a guy like Jeffrey Epstein. I'll leave that
up to you to figure out. But to Wexner, what
the crook lacked in assets he made up for in
Big Apple Flavor. When less Wexter met Jeffrey Epstein, he
apparently remarked that Epstein was so exciting, explains Barry Levine,
author of the Epstein Expose the Spider. In the film,
he was everything that less Wexner thought was lacking in Ohio. Well,
I could see that you got a guy like Les
Wexner has all the money in the world, but it's
a big goofy goofball. Yeah, he's gonna need somebody to
show him the ropes if you will. And if Epstein
is your mentor, well, what does that say about you
and the behavior you were engaging in Let's remember what
Maria Farmer said about the Wexners. Let's remember what Virginia
said about Les Wexner himself. In the early nineteen eighties,
Wexner's empire expanded from Just the Limited, which he launched
from his hometown of Columbus, Ohio, in nineteen sixty three,
to include Victoria's Secret. Wexner purchased the Lingerie brand from
the founders Roy and Gay Raymond for one million dollars,
and the shrewd suburbanite wanted to make a splash in
the big city, so in nineteen eighty five he purchased
Lux Fifth Avenue and Porium Henry Bendy for just under
ten million in an attempt to impress Gotham's swanky upper crust.
So with Wexner, it was always about fitting in. Right,
he wasn't from New York. He was from Columbus, certainly
not the jet setting place that Manhattan is, and it
certainly doesn't have the so called elite class that Manhattan has,
and that's what Wexner was wanted. Well, Epstein opened that
door for him, and in return, Wexner opened the door
to the vault. So how in the world can the NYPD,
the SDNY, the FBI, all these other organizations, these law
enforcement organizations not bring rico charges against these people. It's
rather obvious that if anyone was engaging in this behavior
with Epstein, as far as financially or otherwise, it was Wexner.
But yet no serious investigations, nobody camping out waiting to
ambush interview him. So what's the legacy media up to
are they given Wexner a pass the same way they're
giving Bill richardson one. He wanted that New York flavor
and that was a way to buy into it, says
Terry Egans, author of the End of Fashion. In the series,
he invited Jackie o NASA's to the christening of the
store because he wanted that respect with New York society
and high fashion New York. And what better way to
do it, right when you have all of these other
high society folks buzzing around you and giving you that credibility, Well,
that helps you kick in the door. And that was
always what Les Wexner wanted. He wanted that credibility with
the other New York elite. He wanted to be part
of the club, and Epstein gave him that access Didney.
The wannabe city slicker even purchased the most sprawling townhouse
on the Upper East Side for a then unprecedented thirteen
point two million in hopes of being embraced by the elite. However,
despite his efforts, the Cream Dela Creme regarded Wexner as
nothing more than a mere pimple on New York's backside.
Says Michael Gross, author of Model in the film Look.
Of course he was an interloper, right, an outsider. If
you're not old money, generational wealth in New York City,
you're not part of the crew. Nobody wants you around.
And less of course, you find a way to finagle
your way in the way Epstein did. And then if
you do that, well you have to have something to
offer these scumbags, right and Epstein, well, we all know
what he was bringing to the table. In Epstein, Wexner
found the suave business and streetwise ally he'd been longing
for and for his urbanity. The mogul gave him carte
blanche to his business and billions. Well, I wouldn't go
so far as calling Epstein street smart. Probably wouldn't survive
too long here on the east side of Las Vegas,
probably wouldn't survive too long in the South Bronx, probably
wouldn't survive too long in Compton, and probably wouldn't survive
too long on the south side of Chicago. So I
don't know how street smart Jeffrey Epstein was, but he
certainly was a criminal and he had a good mind
for numbers. Epstein was extraordinarily mess and convince and could
convince anything, anyone of anything, says the Swindler's former business
partner Steven Jay Hoffenberg in the film. He was the
master manipulator. Almost immediately after meeting Wexner granted Epstein full
power of attorney over his sizable fortune. Shortly thereafter, Epstein
became a notorious elbow rubber to the aristocratic likes of
Prince Andrew, former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, and
tech whiz Bill Gates. And of course he was close
with all of them. You know, people on the left,
they don't want to talk about all of the ties
Epstein had to the left. They just don't want to
hear it. And the same goes for the right. You
talk to people who are playing tribalism and they just
want to retreat to their bunker and hear what the
echo chamber has to say. And it's all fun in games,
right when you're talking about, oh, I'm not biased in
this case, I'm not chasing, you know, one side or
the other until it time to follow the evidence, and
it leads you to someplace you don't want to go. And
that's where the rubber meets the road, right, that's when
you figure out, well, am I really interested in justice
here or do I still want to play tribalism? And
it seems a lot of people still want to play tribalism.
But the path to victory here is no holds barred,
no passes for anybody. And it doesn't matter what side
of the aisle they were on. If they were involved
with Epstein and they committed crimes, they need to be
held responsible. And until people get out of their bunkers
and stop retreating to their echo chamber anytime they're uncomfortable
with a conversation, well, we're going to have people like
this who were able to manipulate the system. Wexner also
allowed him to unseat his beloved mother, Bello Wexner, on
the board of his foundation. He sold Epstein his ritzy
Midtown Minute, the Mansion, and the limited's Boeing seven twenty
seven private jet, eventually nicknamed the low To Express by
the media because Epstein used it to traffic women for
well under market value. Now, imagine getting rid of your
mom on your board of executives to have Epstein take
her place. For that alone, you should go to prison.
For that of loan, you should be sent to Neptune.
Who does that remove your mother from the board for
a guy like Epstein? Huh? See how well that worked
out for you there, Les Wexner. Might have taken decades
to catch up with you, but it's finally catching up,
isn't it. People are finally talking about you, Les Wexner.
And guess what, We're going to continue to slam the
point home. The details of the transaction, however, were shrouded
in so many shell companies per the doc, that it's
unclear how much or little Epstein paid for the plane.
And that's how all of their finances were. They were
all entangled, all of these offshore accounts, all of these
accounts that nobody has any eyea idea who even owns
and Epstein had how many of them throughout the Virgin
Islands and elsewhere? We know that there's at least several.
So has there been a forensic accountant chasing these down
from the Feds? I highly doubt it because you know, folks,
they don't want to open that Pandora's box. The FEDS
know exactly what's in it, and they do not want
to release it. And it's a damn shame, A straight travesty.
Wexner even broke her to three and a half million
dollars deal for Epstein to purchase the guesthouse located on
his massive private property in New Aubany, Ohio. There, Epstein
and Glene Maxwell allegedly sexually assaulted and imprisoned aspiring artist
Maria Farmer in nineteen ninety six. However, no arrests were
made following the alleged attack, of course not. Don't you
remember what Maria said? She called the New Albany police
and what they told her that Wexner runs the show.
She contacted the FBI and YPD. No help from anybody
all the way back in nineteen ninety six. If they
would have just listened to what Maria had to say,
how many people would not have been molested? How many
people would have been saved the torturous and ruinous future
that they had to suffer through because the FBI and
the police didn't act when they were alerted. And Epstein's
hold on Wexner wasn't limited to just business dealings. In
nineteen ninety three, the business tycoon tied the knot with
the then thirty one year old New York attorney Abigail
s Copple, Epstein oversaw their prenuptial agreement. Epstein was deeply
involved in the personal lives of Abigail, unless, says Fetus Fields.
Ellison ads there wasn't a part of Wexner's empire that
Epstein didn't have access to and didn't have some ability
to control. The dude had the keys to the empire, folks,
you know, that's not an understatement. That's not people over
selling it. This dude had the keys to the empire,
and he used them, and Epstein took full advantage of
his benefactor's growing clout. In the summer of nineteen ninety three,
Epstein was caught posing as a recruiter for Victoria's secret
catalog models. He was using his affiliation with Wexner as
a lure for attracting unsuspecting beauties. According to Fetus Fields, Now,
if you want to get deep, was this part of it?
Did Wexner know that Epstein was going to use the
business to get more girls? And that was why he
gave him the keys to the kingdom? Of course that
speculation on my part, But maybe if the investigators would
do their job, we wouldn't have to speculate, would we Then?
In May nineteen ninety seven, former Playboy pin up Alicia Arden,
now fifty five, filed a sexual battery report in Santa Monica, California,
against Epstein, claiming he sexually manhandled her in his hotel
room during a supposed meeting about posing in a Victorious
Secret mailer. Now, look, how many times have we heard
this story from women involved with Epstein. Oh, I went
there because I thought I was going to become a
model for Victoria's Secret. And no investigator thinks it's a
good idea to do a full on investigation of everybody
that was involved in a leadership position at Victoria's Secret
at the time. And again you just see folks why
they do not want to make this rico. While it's
unclear if word of the incident ever got back to Wexner,
the apparel magnate continued singing Epstein's praises to the public.
Wexner told Vanity Fair in two thousand and three that
Epstein was very smart, with a combination of excellent judgment
and an unusually high standard. Oh yeah, excellent judgment, huh,
unusually high standard compared to what a war criminal. Also,
he always has the most loyal friend. Washington Post journalist
Sarah Ellison quotes in the doc Epstein had to have
some kind of hold over Wexner, and that hold many
in the dock believe was far stronger than mere business ties. Look,
it's one hundred percent man very Rarely will I go
out on a limb here and say, oh, that's one
hundred percent unless I can prove it. And I believe
there's enough evidence there circumstantially to prove less Wexner's involvement here.
And I just think at this point there is no
will of the federal government to go after him in
the right kind of manner and bring him to justice
at the very least. How about he gets deposed and
we see what's what each one must have fulfilled the
need of the other, says Fetus Fields. I'm not at
all inferring that it was a sexual need, but there
was something there. Why aren't you inferring that I think
it was. I think it was a sexual need. And
who the hell knows what sort of proclivities that the
elfin look in mf or less Wexner was into prior
to his death. Epstein, during a twenty ten deposition in
a Florida civil case, denied identifying as bisexual, and when
asked if he shared a romantic relationship with Wexner, the
convicted sex offender Spatan emphatic no. Per Footage of the
legal inquisition featured in the series. Now again, a lot
of people who have said otherwise said that they did
have some sort of sexual connection. I have no idea.
I can't prove it one way or the other. But
that is a conversation, a line of conversation that has
been out there for quite some time. Wexner, who declined
to be interviewed for the doc but provided statements to
production through an attorney, categorically denied a homosexual dalliance with Epstein.
Representatives for Wexner denied immediately respond to the post request
for a comment. Now they're not going to respond. They
never do. As the years went on, Wexner got richer
and Epstein continued to reap the benefits. By the late
two thousands, Victoria's Secret had a mask a whopping six
billion in revenue, with top supermodels including Heidi Klumb, Tyra Banks,
and Adriana Lima modeling the brands Push Ups and Panties
Epstein used his friend's money to his benefit, buying up
sprawling estates around the world, including a k apartment in
Paris and the Seaside Villa in the US Virgin Islands,
which ultimately acted as traffic imports. Again, you hear all
of these references to trafficking and this that the other thing, Well,
it wasn't just Maxwell and Epstein that were involved in that,
is it? So now that Maxwell has been sentenced, now
we focus on those other names. You know that everybody
was talking about, now's the time to go after those names.
Anybody who was visiting this island for any reason should
be at the top of the list to be spoken
with by the FBI. Epstein also used Wexner's acquisition of
some seven forty seven cargo jets, as well as a
fleet of Southern Air transport plane which were once owned
by the CIA, to bolster his own reputation. Over the years,
the hustler boasted that he had connections to the intelligence agency.
Says Ellison, Look, there's way more evidence out there that
points to him being an asset than there isn't. And
then you add the fact that the CIA own these planes,
and you have yourself a whole lot of coincidences, And
it comes down to this, folks, do you believe that
all of this stuff is just a coincidence or is
there something else going on below the surface that the
legacy media just refuses to dig into. And building strong
ties with the federal government was said to be of
the utmost importance to Wexner. The Mogul, according to the documentary,
and Powder, empowered Epstein to allocate funds towards devising a
communication strategy for the Israeli government in the wake of
the Iraq War. Wexner's motivation, per journalist Noah Colwyn, co
host of the podcast about the Iraq War blowback, was
to make sure their preferred outcomes happen. The mogul specific
political hopes were not explored in the film, but Wexner
is known to be very pro Israel. Yeah, he's part
of the Megagroup. He is one of the benefactors of Israel.
There's no denying it. There is no denying his connections
to the State of Israel, and there's certainly no denying
that Israeli intelligence had some connections here as well. But
Wexner and Epstein's seemingly impenetrable bond began to weaken in
two thousand and six when the swindler was caught sexually
abusing underage girls in his Palm Beach, Florida state. Epstein
was arrested on solicitation of prostitution charges. And this was
the built in escape hatch for them. If you ever
get caught, here's what we'll say. You stole this money
from me, I'll still be protected, and unfortunately, you, my friend,
you're gonna burn. Legal documents obtained from an investigation launched
by officials in Oregon, according to the series, indicate that
Wexner's L Brands directly aided Epstein's legal defense after his
two thousand and six arrest. However, the mogul ultimately removed
Epstein as his power of attorney in December two thousand
and seven, before Epstein went to jail in two thousand
and eight and served a measly eighteen month sentence. So
imagine Wexner and Victoria's secret and L Brands they were
helping provide legal aid to Jeffrey Epstein. And you mean
to tell me Wesner has no ties to Dershowitz or
ken Starr or Jay Lefkowitz or any of these other
characters that were running around acting as attorneys for Epstein.
It would be another thirteen years before the registered offender
was returned to police custody for his sex crimes. By
the time of Epstein's twenty nineteen arrest, Wexner finally began
pub to publicly distance himself from the master manipulator, claiming
he too was a victim of his schemes. And I
find that to be such bs and as I've stated
earlier and just now, it was all part of the
cooked in plot. In my opinion, these guys are shrewd.
They think in advance, what do we do if something
goes wrong? How are we gonna protect ourselves? And Epstein
was set up to take the fall, and that's what
intelligence does. When assets are burned, those assets end up
taking the fall. In February twenty twenty, Wexner stepped down
from his role as CEO of L Brandts. A spokesperson
for Victoria's Secret told the Post Victoria's Secret is an
end and company now and can't comment on behalf of
L Brands or former CEO Les Wexner, but concerning Epstein's wrongdoings.
Wexner spoke for himself. Everyone has to feel enormous regret
for the advantage that was taken of so many young women.
That just unexplainable, abhorrent behavior. Clearly is something we all
would condemn, the retailer said in a televised address featured
in the Dock. Being taken advantage of by someone so sick,
so cunning, so depraved is something that I'm embarrassed that
I was even close to, added Wexner, who gave Epstein
an estimated four hundred million during their twenty year relationship.
In the doc, Ellison says, we needn't cry for the mogul.
Epstein's story has done more damage to him than anything
does in his life, says Ellison. But even as his
legacy has been tarnished, he's still amassing wealth and still
is one of the most powerful billionaires in the country.
And that folks says everything right there. How is it
that a man with all of this evidence against him,
all of these allegations, is still running around and amassing
this fortune. Well, it tells me that the whole entire
ruling class is corrupt and until people like Les Wexner
and the rest of these guys are held accountable, this
sort of thing will just continue to happen. And while
Epstein might be dead, Maxwell might be in prison, there
are a whole lot of other co conspirators who still
need to be brought to justice. All right, folks, that's
going to do it for this episode. If you'd like
to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kopuuchi
at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo bbuy c apu Cci
at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on
Twitter at bo bbuy underscore c ap u Cci. The
link that I discussed can be found in the description box.