WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:07.160 The countdown is on to fight time. 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:11.640 This is Big Fight Weekend. No, here is your host, 3 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:15.679 DJ Leaves. All right, kids, here we are on the 4 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:18.679 big fight we can preview. I'm merely the somewhat competent host, 5 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:21.519 TJ Reeves. Here is our insider, Big Dan Rayfield. 6 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:21.879 Listen. 7 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.960 We do a fantastic job. We do, say so ourselves, 8 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:28.600 weekend and week out of previewing the best of the 9 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:31.440 coming weekend in boxing. One problem this weekend, Rayfield, we 10 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:34.159 don't really have a prominent fight per se. So we 11 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:36.280 got to get creative on this week's show. We weren't 12 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.399 gonna just bag it and not be there for the 13 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:40.679 pod audience. So good to be with you. We got 14 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:42.679 a lot of fight news to go over. We got 15 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:44.920 something that we're teasing for Sunday. First of all, how 16 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:45.200 are you? 17 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:47.280 How are you? Thanks here, I'm good, by the way, 18 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:49.159 Just because there's no fights, it is what it is. 19 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:53.200 It's sometimes that happens. Call your family, Yeah, catch up. 20 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:55.520 We call your mother, right, call your mother. Catch up 21 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:58.399 with everybody this weekend, watch some college football, watch some NFL, 22 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:01.840 et cetera. And we should say to the audience, Okay, 23 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:03.399 first of all, thank you for finding us on the 24 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.920 pod feed and subscribing Apple, Spreaker, Spotify, wherever you get 25 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:09.719 the pods. We do try to preview going into the weekend, 26 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:11.879 recap coming off the weekend, so we don't really have 27 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.920 a lot to recap, but you and I got creative. 28 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.000 Excellent job by you. I publicly prop you excellent job 29 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.319 on hooking Mark Kriegel of ESPN and their coverage and 30 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.280 a longtime writer and author as well, and tell them 31 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:29.200 more about what we have coming off the weekend. 32 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:32.079 Go yeah, absolutely so. I mean, Mark has been a 33 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.640 friend of mine for twenty five years. I met him 34 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:37.079 way way back when I was working at USA Today 35 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.480 and the end of two thousand. Mark was a columnist 36 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:42.519 the writing about general sports, but a lot about boxing 37 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:44.719 for the New York at that time, the New York 38 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:46.359 Daily News. He also wrote for The New York Post. 39 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:48.879 So I've known him forever. We were colleagues at ESPN 40 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.280 for a long time, and he is the author of 41 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.359 a number of best selling books. His latest is called 42 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:56.719 Baddest Man The Making of Mike Tyson, which is like 43 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.879 a four hundred and thirty four page tome about my 44 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:04.480 Tyson is immaculately researched tremendously well done, and as I 45 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:06.599 came to find out when Mark sent me a copy 46 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:10.680 with a nice inscription to me, that that book is 47 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:13.919 only really the first part because it only goes through 48 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.199 the end of what happened in the fight with the 49 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.360 very famous apex of Mike' scurer with Mike Tyson. So 50 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:22.439 what we have coming for the reviewers on YouTube and 51 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:25.639 the listeners on the pod is we just spent right 52 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.039 before we did this, correct, We do like about an 53 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.879 hour of you and I talking to Mark about a 54 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:33.280 little bit out Canelo and Crawford, because Mark was part 55 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:35.759 of the in Netflix broadcast to get his take on 56 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.199 that particular fight and the history that was made by 57 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:41.159 Terrence Crawford, but also about this amazing book that he 58 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:44.280 has written, Chroniclink Tyson, as I said to Mark, and 59 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.520 you know, I'll give a little tease, like I've been 60 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:49.199 following Mike Tyson sin I'm a kid. You know, he 61 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:50.840 was fighting where I grew up in the Albany, New 62 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.000 York area, in the Capitol District of New York and 63 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:56.360 has had tens of millions of words and said about 64 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:58.879 him over the years. And I'm like twenty pages into 65 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:00.479 the book and I'm already finding out that I never 66 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:02.840 heard about about that. So he'd done an amazing job 67 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:04.960 of putting this together. And so we had a really 68 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:08.039 good time talking about his process of doing the book 69 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:10.080 and about some things he learned about Mike, and there's 70 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:12.199 a lot of stuff about Tyson. It was tremendous. I 71 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:13.439 can't wait for people to see it more. 72 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:15.960 Nate mention of this again. But we're gonna release it 73 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.599 as a YouTube video. To see Mark Krigel with us, 74 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.439 go to the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page. We will 75 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:26.479 have that out first on video Sunday evening, and then 76 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.680 for this podcast audience. If you're not savvy enough to 77 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.479 come find us on the video, we want you to 78 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:34.199 go subscribe there, go hit the light button. We'll have 79 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:37.639 it as a pod overnight Sunday in the Monday, but 80 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.800 see it first if you're interested on the YouTube page. 81 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:46.080 Coming up. Okay, So news from this past week, and 82 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:48.159 there are some different things that we have to talk about. 83 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.879 Jake Paul and Jervonte Davis had their media tour earlier 84 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.840 this week in New York and in Miami, and we 85 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.319 began to learn some more about this of course there's 86 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:02.080 the viral moments of Paul you know, squaring off with 87 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:04.719 Javonte Davis as he's bigger, and we see all that 88 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:07.759 all over the internet. But Dan take us through anything 89 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:10.639 that we learn, including the undercard being filled out as 90 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:13.159 well for this upcoming November show go ahead. 91 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:15.240 I mean, look, first of all, as far as this, 92 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.680 I call it a goofy exhibition. I mean, you know, 93 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.000 good for the two guys. They are gonna make a 94 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:20.600 lot of money. I'm sure there's a lot of people 95 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:24.639 that are interested to see whatever's gonna transpire in this 96 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:29.360 particular event. And you know me, I've never knocked Jake 97 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:31.199 for doing the things he has done in terms of 98 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:34.519 the types of events he's put on. I just can't 99 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:36.439 find myself getting too into this one, to be honest. 100 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:39.199 And it's not anything against tankh I enjoy watching. I 101 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.519 wish he was fighting a legitimate fight in terms of 102 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:43.319 the dull monument. 103 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:45.079 And so you're coming a little closer to my side 104 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.759 of the street on farcical with this on him being 105 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.879 eighty pounds heavier than Davis seventy eight pounds heavier. 106 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.160 Well, I mean, if they're at their actual fighting weights, 107 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:55.360 they're separated by sixty five pounds, but yeah, I hear you, 108 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.519 and not to mention that Jake is probably about about 109 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.199 seven or eight inches taller than Tank Davis. But whatever, 110 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:02.720 let them do what they want to do. So they 111 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:04.680 went and they did their media tour open to the public. 112 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.439 They did it in Monday in Manhattan. They did it 113 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:09.600 again on Tuesday in Miami, where they moved the fight 114 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.480 from the original location in Atlanta now is taking place 115 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.759 in Miami, and so they square it off. But I 116 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.199 you know, when you do a press conference for an 117 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.600 actual fight and there's tension and there's stakes because of 118 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:26.600 a title or pound for pound or whatever the reasons are, like, 119 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.759 you can feel like the tension and you know that 120 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:32.120 they're looking to hurt each other or you know, to 121 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:34.439 win because it's going to advance their careers. It's going 122 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:36.879 to help them make a legacy on people are really 123 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:41.079 into it this fight. To me, again, I'm not not 124 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:42.560 going to if you want to watch it, by all means, 125 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:44.240 I'm going to watch it. I don't love it, but 126 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.879 I'm going to watch it. It doesn't have any of 127 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:49.079 that because there's no real stakes because it's not going 128 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:52.000 to count it's they did announce the particulars. It is officially, 129 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:54.279 as we suspected and knew ahead of time, it is 130 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.839 an exhibition match for ten rounds three minute rounds, so 131 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:58.920 at least in that sense, the rules are the same. 132 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.600 Nikisa Beadarin, who was the co founder of Most Valuable 133 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:05.959 Promotions and Jake Paul's partner in that company, he's the 134 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:09.120 ostensibly the promoter since Jake is the combatant in the fight. 135 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:14.560 They announced that it will be uh, it'll be contracted 136 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.879 at one hundred and ninety five pounds, hardly a big 137 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:21.439 give for anybody, because Tank is one hundred and thirty 138 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.439 five pounds champion. He fought one time about four years 139 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.959 ago at one hundred and forty pounds in his fight 140 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:31.199 against Mario Barrios and Jake Paul. Although the cruiserweight limit 141 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.720 is two hundred pounds, for most of his fights, he's 142 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.839 been somewhere between like one eighty three and like one 143 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:41.120 ninety is or something like that, so he's had a 144 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:43.160 few fights over the one ninety five. Obviously, when he 145 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.000 fought Tyson, you know, in the so called official fight, 146 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.000 he bulked up to two hundred and twenty seven pounds 147 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:50.480 but the point is for him to make two hundred 148 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:52.319 for cruiserweight, like he that was the limit, let's say 149 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:55.519 for his most recent bout against Chavez Junior. For the 150 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:58.959 making one ninety five, You're hardly sucking down and draining 151 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.480 yourself in any kind of dramatic way. To me, the 152 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:03.879 more interesting thing is not what Jake Paul's gonna wait 153 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:05.600 for this fight, because presumably he's going to weigh right 154 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:07.759 on the one ninety five. I don't see why he 155 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:11.000 would be lower. Is how heavy is tanking to come in? 156 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:11.519 Like? 157 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:12.800 Where can he still be effected? 158 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.199 He was a realistic guess I have one shirl. 159 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:17.399 Idea because even if you see. 160 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:20.720 I think he really I think he realistically to still 161 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:22.480 be in some kind of shape or whatever would be 162 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:24.040 about one hundred and fifty pounds match. 163 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:27.439 That's fair? Is that fair? I think that's fair. And 164 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:28.920 I think he might even be a little lesson that 165 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:31.240 to tell you the truth, because here's the thing he's not. 166 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:33.519 He's not like officially preparing for the fight. You looked 167 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.079 at him at the press converence. He doesn't look like 168 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:36.879 he's out of shape or anything like that. But he 169 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:39.920 can't be more than one sixty or something like that 170 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:41.639 right now, I can't. It probably isn't even that much. 171 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.240 And like I said, his only fight above one thirty 172 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:46.879 five was one hundred and forty pounds and he was 173 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.800 effective at that weight. I mean, so I don't know. 174 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:51.839 It's a goofy thing to me. So anyway, bottom line, 175 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:53.800 there are a ten round three minute ten round fight. 176 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.199 Three minute rounds. One hundred and ninety five is the 177 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.800 contract limit. They are gonna have three judges there, according 178 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.120 to the cases announcement at this news conference. But they're 179 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:05.439 gonna so though the renders score is if necessary unless 180 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.360 somebody gets knocked out. There's no prohibition against a knockout 181 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:10.600 or anything like that, which is always sort of a 182 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.680 weird thing. Anyway. You can't prohibit prohibiting knockout because if 183 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:15.639 a guy lands a shot and a guy gets knocked out, 184 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:17.600 that can happen no matter whether you're say you're not 185 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:20.800 allowed to do it or not. So they're gonna presumably 186 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.120 fight hard. I hope they'd do anyway, But three judges 187 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.040 will offer their scoring at the end of the rounds 188 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:27.720 and at the end of the fight if it goes 189 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:29.839 to ten, you know, if it goes at ten round distance, 190 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:32.200 but it won't count on their records because technically it's 191 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:35.600 an exhibition, even though we'll know what our eyes saw. Furthermore, 192 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.000 they will wear twelve ounce gloves instead of what would 193 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.000 normally have been ten ounce gloves. If you know about 194 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.960 boxing rules, if you're in the welterweight division or below, 195 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:47.440 it's usually ten ounce rather eight ounce gloves than anything 196 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.039 above that is ten ounce gloves. For this, they're gonna 197 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.879 wear twelve ounce gloves, which are still smaller than like 198 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.440 gloves that guys would typically spar in. There'll be the 199 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.679 heaviest gloves that that tank ever wore for an actual fight, 200 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.399 because of course he's never fought about one, so I 201 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.360 would imagine every one of his professional bouts had been 202 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:05.919 eight ounce gloves, So that could be a little bit different, 203 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:07.799 But I don't think it's gonna to the to the 204 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.639 layman that's watching on Netflix, which is what's going to 205 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:12.919 carry this event. You're not going to notice a couple 206 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.159 extra ounces on a guy's gloves, and but you will 207 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.200 notice that one guy is six foot one and will 208 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.559 be pushing close to two hundred pounds and the other 209 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.759 guy's five foot five and you know, standing on a 210 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:25.679 phone book, as I like to say, you know who's 211 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:27.399 been boxing as a one hundred and thirty five pounder 212 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:29.159 for most of his career, or even before that one 213 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:31.080 hundred and thirty pounds where he won his first world titles. 214 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.120 So you know, it's kind of a goofy thing. But 215 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.159 if people want to see it, so be it. Again, 216 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:38.519 I can't get too hyped about it. But but anyway, 217 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:39.879 but the point I'm making though, TJ. Is when you 218 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:41.519 went and watched any of the news conference, whether it 219 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.039 was the one in New York or the one of Miami, 220 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.600 you know, they were saying things and all that, but 221 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.279 I didn't get any real sense of like they're they're 222 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:51.919 don't like each other, or you know that there's hatred 223 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:53.799 or there's some kind of chip on their shoulder. They're 224 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:56.360 fighting for any real stakes. This is a business transaction, 225 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:58.919 cash grab for both of them. It's a money grab, 226 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:00.799 and by the way, nothing wrong with that, because we'd 227 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:02.639 all love to get cash grabs if we Because I don't. 228 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.159 Know, the only thing that I keep coming back to is, 229 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:09.559 don't tell me you're serious about becoming a World Championships fighter. 230 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.879 Jake Paul. If this is what you're doing instead and 231 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:14.559 wasting another six months for a. 232 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:19.639 Year I think about itself, turns out to be a joke, 233 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:22.399 and everybody leaves their screen or their phone or their 234 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.159 you know, TV or wherever they watched this event upset. 235 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:29.320 Just remember two things. A it wasn't pay per view. 236 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:31.440 You know, if you have a regular Netflix subscription, you 237 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.559 just get it anyway, so you're not out the money 238 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:35.559 if you blew. You know, back in the day, people 239 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:38.279 spending fifty dollars watching Mike Tyson knock got Bruce Seldon 240 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.840 in one round where Bruce heldn didn't even try to fight. 241 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.799 That was a different story. And secondly, what do you 242 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:48.080 expect from a from a fight between guys exactly? I mean, 243 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:51.159 this is ridiculous. I'm I'm a little disappointed the Commission 244 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.679 would even approve this as an exhibition or not. I mean, 245 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:57.200 but again, the Florida Commission approved Floyd Mayweather against Logan 246 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.320 Paul where there was a similar weight to party. Floyd 247 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:01.600 was like a at that time, fighting about one fifty 248 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.200 four and Logan Paul was over two hundred pounds. I 249 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.000 guess when he would, you know, be walking around so 250 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.159 there was similar fifty plus pounds different, so you know 251 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:13.159 that that was what it was anyway, you know whatever, 252 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:14.440 and the. 253 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:16.480 Under card, what about the card on the on the 254 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:17.919 November show. 255 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.399 Right, So with respect to MVP, like, one thing I'll 256 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.200 say when they put some of these goofy Jake Paul 257 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:24.759 events on, one thing I'll give them credit for is 258 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:26.519 they do a pretty damn good job of putting on 259 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.240 legit fights for their undercards, you know, and that's that's important. 260 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:32.679 I think that's important. So and this is no different. 261 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:35.320 So in the co feature, they promote Alicia Baumgardner, who's 262 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:39.080 the undisputed women's Junior lightweight champion, for this fight. She 263 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.200 will defend against the Canadian contender, Layla A Bedouin, but 264 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.960 she has vacated her WBC belt, so she's given up 265 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.480 her status as undisputed. She still has the other three titles. 266 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:51.159 And the reason is because this stems to the time 267 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:54.840 in recent years where Amanda Serrano, who was at the 268 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.919 time the undisputed featherweight champion, wanted her bouts to be 269 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:00.840 under the same rules as the men, meaning twelve rounds 270 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.919 and three minute rounds. The WBC, they cite their medical 271 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:10.600 people's reports and research and safety things along those lines, 272 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:14.440 and they refuse for women's matches to sanctioned fights that 273 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:17.440 are twelve rounds or three minutes. So she wanted to 274 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.159 participate in the same type of rules as the men. 275 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.639 The other organizations allow it, the Commission allows it if 276 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:25.559 both sides say it's okay, even though the default for 277 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:27.799 women would be ten rounds for a title fight and 278 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:31.039 two minute rounds. But I guess both the athletes are 279 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:32.759 on board with it, and that's what she wanted to do. 280 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:36.159 So she vacates her WBC title, but they will fight 281 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.200 a female Boxing World Championship fight. This will be a 282 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:41.600 twelve round schedule about and the rounds will be three 283 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:44.559 minutes long. So she's following in the footsteps of what 284 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.440 Amanda Serrano has done, who is part of MVP now 285 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.600 also and as you know, one of their major fighters. 286 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:54.679 So that's her defense in the co feature and then 287 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.399 in the fight that's below that This is actually a 288 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:59.720 good fight, and I've been wondering what's happening with this fight, 289 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:02.279 been asking Gilberto Mendoz from the WBA for like two 290 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.080 months what the status was because that had been ordered 291 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:05.840 to a purse bid, but it will be this fight. 292 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:09.440 It will be the first defense of the WBA Junior 293 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:12.399 welterweight title of Gary Antoine Russell, who will take on 294 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.480 his mandatory the Japanese contender, who you may have seen 295 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:17.679 on some of the Japanese cards that came on ESPN 296 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:20.279 Plus from Japan on in a way under cards and 297 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:23.240 that sort of thing against Andy Hirioka, And so that's 298 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:25.279 another fight on the card. That's a very interesting fight 299 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.759 to me. You know, good fighters. Obviously, Gary Russell is 300 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:32.840 just tremendous speed, comes from that bloodlines of his brother, 301 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:37.159 Gary Junior, was the former featherweight champion, and Gary looked 302 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:38.679 good in the last fight when he won the belt. 303 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:40.240 And you know, Heroica has been doing his thing. He's 304 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:42.519 gonna be coming off about a fourteen month layoff. Part 305 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:44.519 of that was because he achieved the mandatory status and 306 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:46.759 they weren't going to blow that spot. So he's twenty 307 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:48.720 four to zero with nineteen knockouts. They're both the same 308 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.200 age twenty nine. So that's the next fight down the card, 309 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:53.799 and then you get into the fights that are on 310 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:57.240 the preliminaries, and they've added some of the two of 311 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:00.000 their women champions, because obviously if you follow MVP at all, 312 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.519 you know that they are by far and away the 313 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:05.039 number one promoter in terms of top level women's boxing. 314 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:07.240 So they have signed a whole bunch of top women 315 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:08.879 over the last few months, and so they've got a 316 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.960 couple of them making defenses. You have Elie Scottney from 317 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.320 the UK. She's taken on Mayeli Flores. That will be 318 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.639 a four belt unification fights, so it will produce at 319 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.080 the end if there's no draw, you'll have the undisputed 320 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.759 women's junior featherweight champion, so that there are stakes there. 321 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:27.320 And then further down you've got jo Costa Vaye, who's 322 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:29.399 been one of the top pound four pound female boxers 323 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:31.519 for a number of years. Had a pretty big fight 324 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.600 that she lost against Anissi Estrada. She is since that loss, 325 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.240 has one another title. She's the WBC's female strawweight Champion. 326 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:44.480 She is defending the title against Yadira Bustillos. So you 327 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:46.919 got that, and then you know some other fights on 328 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.960 the preliminary part, but the main card Jake Paul against 329 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:53.519 Davis and the exhibition Alisa Baumgarner against Bedouin in the 330 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:56.279 title defense at twelve rounds of three minutes for a 331 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.159 female boxing match and a very high level first class 332 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.639 legit world title fight between Gary Antoine Russell and Andy Hereoka. 333 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:05.879 So at least you get a good undercard with this, 334 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:09.320 like you said, like you prefaced it with, and again 335 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:11.600 that's coming for November, all right. So a couple of 336 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.279 other things here on some fights. While we're on the 337 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.120 subject of Davonte Davis. Remember he knocked out the ghost 338 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.679 Frank Martin back in June of twenty twenty four, and 339 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.320 Martin is now going to fight for the first time 340 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:27.879 in almost what a year and a half coming up 341 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:31.399 the next month. So tell me more about Martin's return. 342 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:33.879 So PBC has not announced this yet, but if you 343 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:36.399 go on any of Frank martin social media, he's posted 344 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.360 like an artwork rendering of it and he announced he's 345 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.279 back and what's going on. So he will be back 346 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:45.200 on October twenty fifth, will be on the card that 347 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.320 PBC and Prime Video are doing as a pay per 348 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:51.080 view October twenty fifth at the MGM Brand Gardenerena in 349 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.360 Las Vegas. The main event is Sebastian Fundora defending his 350 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.399 WBC Junior didawait title in the main event against Keith Thurman, 351 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.440 but Frank Martin's about is supposed to be the final 352 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:03.440 bout on the free prelum, so even he don't buy 353 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:05.840 the pay per view, he can still watch this and 354 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.360 whatever else they put on the free prelims. And Frank 355 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.200 Martin is back in action in the main free prelim 356 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:14.600 fight against Rancis Barthelmy, who frankly I thought was retired, 357 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:17.000 but I guess he's not. He's a former title holder 358 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:20.159 both in the junior lightweight and lightweight division. He is 359 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:22.840 attempted at times to become the first Cuban to win 360 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.879 a title in a third weight division. He came up shy, 361 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:28.039 he got a draw in one of those fights. In 362 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.519 any event, that's the fight. So it'll be good to 363 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.399 see Frank Martin back in action because it always kind 364 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:35.480 of drives me mad when a guy's got a nice 365 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:37.879 career going okay, he runs into a tank Davis, who 366 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.639 he was very competitive with until he got knocked out. 367 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:43.360 But up until that moment it was a highly competitive fight. 368 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.080 And so he takes some time off and I don't 369 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:48.759 really quite understand why. It's sixteen months he wasn't particularly 370 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:50.639 injured or anything like that. But it's good to see 371 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:54.200 Frank Martin back because look, he is a good quality fighter. Now, 372 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:55.879 of course for this fight, he's no longer to be 373 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.120 fighting at lightweight. I guess his fight's at junior welterweight, 374 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:00.960 where Barthelmy has been for the last year years. But 375 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:02.919 any event, good to see Frank back in action because 376 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:04.799 he's still a talented fighter. And there's no shame in 377 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.119 losing by knockout to Tank Davis, as that's happened to 378 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:07.680 a lot of guys. 379 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.200 True. And then we're going to talk about two more 380 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:14.440 previous opponents of Tank Davis. And you were saying this 381 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:18.599 to us coming off of the weekend on the last pod, 382 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:23.319 that it would not surprise you if PBC would squeeze 383 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:25.759 in one more card and it would have involved Lamont 384 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:28.599 Roach and Pitt Bull Cruise. What else have you learned 385 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.160 about when that might be et cetera go ahead? 386 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.920 Well, so obviously Roach was thinking he's going to get 387 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:36.759 the rematch of the draw from March against Tank Davis. 388 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.519 They fought to that very controversial draw. The knockdown that 389 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.519 should have been called that the referee didn't call Steve 390 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:46.599 Willis and Tank Davis was supposed to move on from 391 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.440 that win if he got it infight Jake Paul back 392 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:53.559 then didn't happen. He exercises right to a rematch against 393 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:55.519 Lamont Roach, and so that was being planned at various 394 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.119 times in the summer. It didn't happen. Obviously, Tank had 395 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.279 to do you know, he had the legal iss shoes 396 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.240 with the assault, the domestic abuse situation. Ultimately the case 397 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.079 was dropped, so he was no longer dealing with that. 398 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.400 In any event, the fight, the rematch with Roach kept 399 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.480 getting delayed, and then he said forget about it, and 400 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.519 he is now taking the fight with Jake Paul or 401 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:15.599