1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. 2 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: This is Big Fight Weekend. No, here is your host, 3 00:00:11,839 --> 00:00:15,679 DJ Leaves. All right, kids, here we are on the 4 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:18,679 big fight we can preview. I'm merely the somewhat competent host, 5 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:21,519 TJ Reeves. Here is our insider, Big Dan Rayfield. 6 00:00:21,559 --> 00:00:21,879 Speaker 1: Listen. 7 00:00:22,359 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: We do a fantastic job. We do, say so ourselves, 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,600 weekend and week out of previewing the best of the 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,440 coming weekend in boxing. One problem this weekend, Rayfield, we 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,159 don't really have a prominent fight per se. So we 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,280 got to get creative on this week's show. We weren't 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,399 gonna just bag it and not be there for the 13 00:00:38,399 --> 00:00:40,679 pod audience. So good to be with you. We got 14 00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:42,679 a lot of fight news to go over. We got 15 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:44,920 something that we're teasing for Sunday. First of all, how 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,200 are you? 17 00:00:45,399 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: How are you? Thanks here, I'm good, by the way, 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,159 Just because there's no fights, it is what it is. 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,200 It's sometimes that happens. Call your family, Yeah, catch up. 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: We call your mother, right, call your mother. Catch up 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,399 with everybody this weekend, watch some college football, watch some NFL, 22 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:01,840 et cetera. And we should say to the audience, Okay, 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,399 first of all, thank you for finding us on the 24 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:06,920 pod feed and subscribing Apple, Spreaker, Spotify, wherever you get 25 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,719 the pods. We do try to preview going into the weekend, 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,879 recap coming off the weekend, so we don't really have 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,920 a lot to recap, but you and I got creative. 28 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,000 Excellent job by you. I publicly prop you excellent job 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,319 on hooking Mark Kriegel of ESPN and their coverage and 30 00:01:23,359 --> 00:01:26,280 a longtime writer and author as well, and tell them 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,200 more about what we have coming off the weekend. 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,079 Speaker 1: Go yeah, absolutely so. I mean, Mark has been a 33 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:34,640 friend of mine for twenty five years. I met him 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,079 way way back when I was working at USA Today 35 00:01:37,079 --> 00:01:39,480 and the end of two thousand. Mark was a columnist 36 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,519 the writing about general sports, but a lot about boxing 37 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:44,719 for the New York at that time, the New York 38 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,359 Daily News. He also wrote for The New York Post. 39 00:01:46,519 --> 00:01:48,879 So I've known him forever. We were colleagues at ESPN 40 00:01:48,879 --> 00:01:51,280 for a long time, and he is the author of 41 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:54,359 a number of best selling books. His latest is called 42 00:01:54,439 --> 00:01:56,719 Baddest Man The Making of Mike Tyson, which is like 43 00:01:56,719 --> 00:01:59,879 a four hundred and thirty four page tome about my 44 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:04,480 Tyson is immaculately researched tremendously well done, and as I 45 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:06,599 came to find out when Mark sent me a copy 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,680 with a nice inscription to me, that that book is 47 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:13,919 only really the first part because it only goes through 48 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:16,199 the end of what happened in the fight with the 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,360 very famous apex of Mike' scurer with Mike Tyson. So 50 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:22,439 what we have coming for the reviewers on YouTube and 51 00:02:22,479 --> 00:02:25,639 the listeners on the pod is we just spent right 52 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,039 before we did this, correct, We do like about an 53 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,879 hour of you and I talking to Mark about a 54 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:33,280 little bit out Canelo and Crawford, because Mark was part 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,759 of the in Netflix broadcast to get his take on 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,199 that particular fight and the history that was made by 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,159 Terrence Crawford, but also about this amazing book that he 58 00:02:41,199 --> 00:02:44,280 has written, Chroniclink Tyson, as I said to Mark, and 59 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,520 you know, I'll give a little tease, like I've been 60 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,199 following Mike Tyson sin I'm a kid. You know, he 61 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,840 was fighting where I grew up in the Albany, New 62 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:53,000 York area, in the Capitol District of New York and 63 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:56,360 has had tens of millions of words and said about 64 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,879 him over the years. And I'm like twenty pages into 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,479 the book and I'm already finding out that I never 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,840 heard about about that. So he'd done an amazing job 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,960 of putting this together. And so we had a really 68 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,039 good time talking about his process of doing the book 69 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,080 and about some things he learned about Mike, and there's 70 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,199 a lot of stuff about Tyson. It was tremendous. I 71 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:13,439 can't wait for people to see it more. 72 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: Nate mention of this again. But we're gonna release it 73 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:19,599 as a YouTube video. To see Mark Krigel with us, 74 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,439 go to the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page. We will 75 00:03:22,479 --> 00:03:26,479 have that out first on video Sunday evening, and then 76 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,680 for this podcast audience. If you're not savvy enough to 77 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,479 come find us on the video, we want you to 78 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,199 go subscribe there, go hit the light button. We'll have 79 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:37,639 it as a pod overnight Sunday in the Monday, but 80 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,800 see it first if you're interested on the YouTube page. 81 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:46,080 Coming up. Okay, So news from this past week, and 82 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:48,159 there are some different things that we have to talk about. 83 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,879 Jake Paul and Jervonte Davis had their media tour earlier 84 00:03:51,919 --> 00:03:55,840 this week in New York and in Miami, and we 85 00:03:55,879 --> 00:03:58,319 began to learn some more about this of course there's 86 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,080 the viral moments of Paul you know, squaring off with 87 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,719 Javonte Davis as he's bigger, and we see all that 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,759 all over the internet. But Dan take us through anything 89 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,639 that we learn, including the undercard being filled out as 90 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,159 well for this upcoming November show go ahead. 91 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look, first of all, as far as this, 92 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:17,680 I call it a goofy exhibition. I mean, you know, 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,000 good for the two guys. They are gonna make a 94 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,600 lot of money. I'm sure there's a lot of people 95 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,639 that are interested to see whatever's gonna transpire in this 96 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,360 particular event. And you know me, I've never knocked Jake 97 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:31,199 for doing the things he has done in terms of 98 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,519 the types of events he's put on. I just can't 99 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:36,439 find myself getting too into this one, to be honest. 100 00:04:36,439 --> 00:04:39,199 And it's not anything against tankh I enjoy watching. I 101 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:42,519 wish he was fighting a legitimate fight in terms of 102 00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:43,319 the dull monument. 103 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,079 Speaker 2: And so you're coming a little closer to my side 104 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,759 of the street on farcical with this on him being 105 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,879 eighty pounds heavier than Davis seventy eight pounds heavier. 106 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if they're at their actual fighting weights, 107 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,360 they're separated by sixty five pounds, but yeah, I hear you, 108 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,519 and not to mention that Jake is probably about about 109 00:04:58,519 --> 00:05:01,199 seven or eight inches taller than Tank Davis. But whatever, 110 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:02,720 let them do what they want to do. So they 111 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,680 went and they did their media tour open to the public. 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,439 They did it in Monday in Manhattan. They did it 113 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,600 again on Tuesday in Miami, where they moved the fight 114 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,480 from the original location in Atlanta now is taking place 115 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,759 in Miami, and so they square it off. But I 116 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,199 you know, when you do a press conference for an 117 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,600 actual fight and there's tension and there's stakes because of 118 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:26,600 a title or pound for pound or whatever the reasons are, like, 119 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:29,759 you can feel like the tension and you know that 120 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,120 they're looking to hurt each other or you know, to 121 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:34,439 win because it's going to advance their careers. It's going 122 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,879 to help them make a legacy on people are really 123 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,079 into it this fight. To me, again, I'm not not 124 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,560 going to if you want to watch it, by all means, 125 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,240 I'm going to watch it. I don't love it, but 126 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,879 I'm going to watch it. It doesn't have any of 127 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,079 that because there's no real stakes because it's not going 128 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,000 to count it's they did announce the particulars. It is officially, 129 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,279 as we suspected and knew ahead of time, it is 130 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:56,839 an exhibition match for ten rounds three minute rounds, so 131 00:05:56,959 --> 00:05:58,920 at least in that sense, the rules are the same. 132 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,600 Nikisa Beadarin, who was the co founder of Most Valuable 133 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,959 Promotions and Jake Paul's partner in that company, he's the 134 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,120 ostensibly the promoter since Jake is the combatant in the fight. 135 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,560 They announced that it will be uh, it'll be contracted 136 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,879 at one hundred and ninety five pounds, hardly a big 137 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,439 give for anybody, because Tank is one hundred and thirty 138 00:06:21,439 --> 00:06:24,439 five pounds champion. He fought one time about four years 139 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,959 ago at one hundred and forty pounds in his fight 140 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,199 against Mario Barrios and Jake Paul. Although the cruiserweight limit 141 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,720 is two hundred pounds, for most of his fights, he's 142 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:38,839 been somewhere between like one eighty three and like one 143 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:41,120 ninety is or something like that, so he's had a 144 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,160 few fights over the one ninety five. Obviously, when he 145 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:46,000 fought Tyson, you know, in the so called official fight, 146 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,000 he bulked up to two hundred and twenty seven pounds 147 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,480 but the point is for him to make two hundred 148 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:52,319 for cruiserweight, like he that was the limit, let's say 149 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:55,519 for his most recent bout against Chavez Junior. For the 150 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,959 making one ninety five, You're hardly sucking down and draining 151 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,480 yourself in any kind of dramatic way. To me, the 152 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:03,879 more interesting thing is not what Jake Paul's gonna wait 153 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,600 for this fight, because presumably he's going to weigh right 154 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,759 on the one ninety five. I don't see why he 155 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,000 would be lower. Is how heavy is tanking to come in? 156 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:11,519 Speaker 2: Like? 157 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Where can he still be effected? 158 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,199 Speaker 2: He was a realistic guess I have one shirl. 159 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,399 Speaker 1: Idea because even if you see. 160 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: I think he really I think he realistically to still 161 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:22,480 be in some kind of shape or whatever would be 162 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:24,040 about one hundred and fifty pounds match. 163 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,439 Speaker 1: That's fair? Is that fair? I think that's fair. And 164 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:28,920 I think he might even be a little lesson that 165 00:07:28,959 --> 00:07:31,240 to tell you the truth, because here's the thing he's not. 166 00:07:31,439 --> 00:07:33,519 He's not like officially preparing for the fight. You looked 167 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:35,079 at him at the press converence. He doesn't look like 168 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,879 he's out of shape or anything like that. But he 169 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,920 can't be more than one sixty or something like that 170 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,639 right now, I can't. It probably isn't even that much. 171 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:45,240 And like I said, his only fight above one thirty 172 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:46,879 five was one hundred and forty pounds and he was 173 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,800 effective at that weight. I mean, so I don't know. 174 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,839 It's a goofy thing to me. So anyway, bottom line, 175 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:53,800 there are a ten round three minute ten round fight. 176 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:56,199 Three minute rounds. One hundred and ninety five is the 177 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,800 contract limit. They are gonna have three judges there, according 178 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,120 to the cases announcement at this news conference. But they're 179 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,439 gonna so though the renders score is if necessary unless 180 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,360 somebody gets knocked out. There's no prohibition against a knockout 181 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:10,600 or anything like that, which is always sort of a 182 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:13,680 weird thing. Anyway. You can't prohibit prohibiting knockout because if 183 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,639 a guy lands a shot and a guy gets knocked out, 184 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,600 that can happen no matter whether you're say you're not 185 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:20,800 allowed to do it or not. So they're gonna presumably 186 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:24,120 fight hard. I hope they'd do anyway, But three judges 187 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,040 will offer their scoring at the end of the rounds 188 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,720 and at the end of the fight if it goes 189 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:29,839 to ten, you know, if it goes at ten round distance, 190 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,200 but it won't count on their records because technically it's 191 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,600 an exhibition, even though we'll know what our eyes saw. Furthermore, 192 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:39,000 they will wear twelve ounce gloves instead of what would 193 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,000 normally have been ten ounce gloves. If you know about 194 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,960 boxing rules, if you're in the welterweight division or below, 195 00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:47,440 it's usually ten ounce rather eight ounce gloves than anything 196 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,039 above that is ten ounce gloves. For this, they're gonna 197 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:52,879 wear twelve ounce gloves, which are still smaller than like 198 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,440 gloves that guys would typically spar in. There'll be the 199 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:58,679 heaviest gloves that that tank ever wore for an actual fight, 200 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,399 because of course he's never fought about one, so I 201 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:03,360 would imagine every one of his professional bouts had been 202 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:05,919 eight ounce gloves, So that could be a little bit different, 203 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:07,799 But I don't think it's gonna to the to the 204 00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:10,639 layman that's watching on Netflix, which is what's going to 205 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,919 carry this event. You're not going to notice a couple 206 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,159 extra ounces on a guy's gloves, and but you will 207 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:19,200 notice that one guy is six foot one and will 208 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,559 be pushing close to two hundred pounds and the other 209 00:09:21,639 --> 00:09:23,759 guy's five foot five and you know, standing on a 210 00:09:23,759 --> 00:09:25,679 phone book, as I like to say, you know who's 211 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,399 been boxing as a one hundred and thirty five pounder 212 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,159 for most of his career, or even before that one 213 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,080 hundred and thirty pounds where he won his first world titles. 214 00:09:31,159 --> 00:09:33,120 So you know, it's kind of a goofy thing. But 215 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,159 if people want to see it, so be it. Again, 216 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,519 I can't get too hyped about it. But but anyway, 217 00:09:38,519 --> 00:09:39,879 but the point I'm making though, TJ. Is when you 218 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:41,519 went and watched any of the news conference, whether it 219 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,039 was the one in New York or the one of Miami, 220 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,600 you know, they were saying things and all that, but 221 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,279 I didn't get any real sense of like they're they're 222 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,919 don't like each other, or you know that there's hatred 223 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,799 or there's some kind of chip on their shoulder. They're 224 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:56,360 fighting for any real stakes. This is a business transaction, 225 00:09:56,919 --> 00:09:58,919 cash grab for both of them. It's a money grab, 226 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,799 and by the way, nothing wrong with that, because we'd 227 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:02,639 all love to get cash grabs if we Because I don't. 228 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,159 Speaker 2: Know, the only thing that I keep coming back to is, 229 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:09,559 don't tell me you're serious about becoming a World Championships fighter. 230 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,879 Jake Paul. If this is what you're doing instead and 231 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:14,559 wasting another six months for a. 232 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:19,639 Speaker 1: Year I think about itself, turns out to be a joke, 233 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,399 and everybody leaves their screen or their phone or their 234 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,159 you know, TV or wherever they watched this event upset. 235 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:29,320 Just remember two things. A it wasn't pay per view. 236 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,440 You know, if you have a regular Netflix subscription, you 237 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,559 just get it anyway, so you're not out the money 238 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,559 if you blew. You know, back in the day, people 239 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,279 spending fifty dollars watching Mike Tyson knock got Bruce Seldon 240 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,840 in one round where Bruce heldn didn't even try to fight. 241 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:43,799 That was a different story. And secondly, what do you 242 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:48,080 expect from a from a fight between guys exactly? I mean, 243 00:10:48,159 --> 00:10:51,159 this is ridiculous. I'm I'm a little disappointed the Commission 244 00:10:51,159 --> 00:10:53,679 would even approve this as an exhibition or not. I mean, 245 00:10:53,879 --> 00:10:57,200 but again, the Florida Commission approved Floyd Mayweather against Logan 246 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,320 Paul where there was a similar weight to party. Floyd 247 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,600 was like a at that time, fighting about one fifty 248 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,200 four and Logan Paul was over two hundred pounds. I 249 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,000 guess when he would, you know, be walking around so 250 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,159 there was similar fifty plus pounds different, so you know 251 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,159 that that was what it was anyway, you know whatever, 252 00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:14,440 and the. 253 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: Under card, what about the card on the on the 254 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:17,919 November show. 255 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,399 Speaker 1: Right, So with respect to MVP, like, one thing I'll 256 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:22,200 say when they put some of these goofy Jake Paul 257 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,759 events on, one thing I'll give them credit for is 258 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:26,519 they do a pretty damn good job of putting on 259 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:30,240 legit fights for their undercards, you know, and that's that's important. 260 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,679 I think that's important. So and this is no different. 261 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,320 So in the co feature, they promote Alicia Baumgardner, who's 262 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,080 the undisputed women's Junior lightweight champion, for this fight. She 263 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:43,200 will defend against the Canadian contender, Layla A Bedouin, but 264 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,960 she has vacated her WBC belt, so she's given up 265 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,480 her status as undisputed. She still has the other three titles. 266 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:51,159 And the reason is because this stems to the time 267 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,840 in recent years where Amanda Serrano, who was at the 268 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:57,919 time the undisputed featherweight champion, wanted her bouts to be 269 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,840 under the same rules as the men, meaning twelve rounds 270 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,919 and three minute rounds. The WBC, they cite their medical 271 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:10,600 people's reports and research and safety things along those lines, 272 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:14,440 and they refuse for women's matches to sanctioned fights that 273 00:12:14,519 --> 00:12:17,440 are twelve rounds or three minutes. So she wanted to 274 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:20,159 participate in the same type of rules as the men. 275 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,639 The other organizations allow it, the Commission allows it if 276 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:25,559 both sides say it's okay, even though the default for 277 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:27,799 women would be ten rounds for a title fight and 278 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,039 two minute rounds. But I guess both the athletes are 279 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,759 on board with it, and that's what she wanted to do. 280 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:36,159 So she vacates her WBC title, but they will fight 281 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:39,200 a female Boxing World Championship fight. This will be a 282 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,600 twelve round schedule about and the rounds will be three 283 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:44,559 minutes long. So she's following in the footsteps of what 284 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:47,440 Amanda Serrano has done, who is part of MVP now 285 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,600 also and as you know, one of their major fighters. 286 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,679 So that's her defense in the co feature and then 287 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,399 in the fight that's below that This is actually a 288 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,720 good fight, and I've been wondering what's happening with this fight, 289 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,279 been asking Gilberto Mendoz from the WBA for like two 290 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,080 months what the status was because that had been ordered 291 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,840 to a purse bid, but it will be this fight. 292 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,440 It will be the first defense of the WBA Junior 293 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,399 welterweight title of Gary Antoine Russell, who will take on 294 00:13:12,519 --> 00:13:15,480 his mandatory the Japanese contender, who you may have seen 295 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:17,679 on some of the Japanese cards that came on ESPN 296 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,279 Plus from Japan on in a way under cards and 297 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,240 that sort of thing against Andy Hirioka, And so that's 298 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:25,279 another fight on the card. That's a very interesting fight 299 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,759 to me. You know, good fighters. Obviously, Gary Russell is 300 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,840 just tremendous speed, comes from that bloodlines of his brother, 301 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,159 Gary Junior, was the former featherweight champion, and Gary looked 302 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,679 good in the last fight when he won the belt. 303 00:13:38,759 --> 00:13:40,240 And you know, Heroica has been doing his thing. He's 304 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,519 gonna be coming off about a fourteen month layoff. Part 305 00:13:42,519 --> 00:13:44,519 of that was because he achieved the mandatory status and 306 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:46,759 they weren't going to blow that spot. So he's twenty 307 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:48,720 four to zero with nineteen knockouts. They're both the same 308 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:52,200 age twenty nine. So that's the next fight down the card, 309 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:53,799 and then you get into the fights that are on 310 00:13:53,879 --> 00:13:57,240 the preliminaries, and they've added some of the two of 311 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,000 their women champions, because obviously if you follow MVP at all, 312 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,519 you know that they are by far and away the 313 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:05,039 number one promoter in terms of top level women's boxing. 314 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,240 So they have signed a whole bunch of top women 315 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:08,879 over the last few months, and so they've got a 316 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,960 couple of them making defenses. You have Elie Scottney from 317 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,320 the UK. She's taken on Mayeli Flores. That will be 318 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,639 a four belt unification fights, so it will produce at 319 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:21,080 the end if there's no draw, you'll have the undisputed 320 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,759 women's junior featherweight champion, so that there are stakes there. 321 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:27,320 And then further down you've got jo Costa Vaye, who's 322 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,399 been one of the top pound four pound female boxers 323 00:14:29,639 --> 00:14:31,519 for a number of years. Had a pretty big fight 324 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:35,600 that she lost against Anissi Estrada. She is since that loss, 325 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:39,240 has one another title. She's the WBC's female strawweight Champion. 326 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,480 She is defending the title against Yadira Bustillos. So you 327 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,919 got that, and then you know some other fights on 328 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,960 the preliminary part, but the main card Jake Paul against 329 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:53,519 Davis and the exhibition Alisa Baumgarner against Bedouin in the 330 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,279 title defense at twelve rounds of three minutes for a 331 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,159 female boxing match and a very high level first class 332 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,639 legit world title fight between Gary Antoine Russell and Andy Hereoka. 333 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:05,879 Speaker 2: So at least you get a good undercard with this, 334 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,320 like you said, like you prefaced it with, and again 335 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,600 that's coming for November, all right. So a couple of 336 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:16,279 other things here on some fights. While we're on the 337 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,120 subject of Davonte Davis. Remember he knocked out the ghost 338 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,679 Frank Martin back in June of twenty twenty four, and 339 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:25,320 Martin is now going to fight for the first time 340 00:15:25,399 --> 00:15:27,879 in almost what a year and a half coming up 341 00:15:27,919 --> 00:15:31,399 the next month. So tell me more about Martin's return. 342 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:33,879 Speaker 1: So PBC has not announced this yet, but if you 343 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,399 go on any of Frank martin social media, he's posted 344 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,360 like an artwork rendering of it and he announced he's 345 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,279 back and what's going on. So he will be back 346 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,200 on October twenty fifth, will be on the card that 347 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,320 PBC and Prime Video are doing as a pay per 348 00:15:47,399 --> 00:15:51,080 view October twenty fifth at the MGM Brand Gardenerena in 349 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:54,360 Las Vegas. The main event is Sebastian Fundora defending his 350 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,399 WBC Junior didawait title in the main event against Keith Thurman, 351 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:01,440 but Frank Martin's about is supposed to be the final 352 00:16:01,559 --> 00:16:03,440 bout on the free prelum, so even he don't buy 353 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,840 the pay per view, he can still watch this and 354 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:08,360 whatever else they put on the free prelims. And Frank 355 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,200 Martin is back in action in the main free prelim 356 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,600 fight against Rancis Barthelmy, who frankly I thought was retired, 357 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:17,000 but I guess he's not. He's a former title holder 358 00:16:17,039 --> 00:16:20,159 both in the junior lightweight and lightweight division. He is 359 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:22,840 attempted at times to become the first Cuban to win 360 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:25,879 a title in a third weight division. He came up shy, 361 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:28,039 he got a draw in one of those fights. In 362 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,519 any event, that's the fight. So it'll be good to 363 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,399 see Frank Martin back in action because it always kind 364 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,480 of drives me mad when a guy's got a nice 365 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:37,879 career going okay, he runs into a tank Davis, who 366 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,639 he was very competitive with until he got knocked out. 367 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,360 But up until that moment it was a highly competitive fight. 368 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,080 And so he takes some time off and I don't 369 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,759 really quite understand why. It's sixteen months he wasn't particularly 370 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:50,639 injured or anything like that. But it's good to see 371 00:16:50,919 --> 00:16:54,200 Frank Martin back because look, he is a good quality fighter. Now, 372 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,879 of course for this fight, he's no longer to be 373 00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:58,120 fighting at lightweight. I guess his fight's at junior welterweight, 374 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,960 where Barthelmy has been for the last year years. But 375 00:17:01,039 --> 00:17:02,919 any event, good to see Frank back in action because 376 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:04,799 he's still a talented fighter. And there's no shame in 377 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,119 losing by knockout to Tank Davis, as that's happened to 378 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:07,680 a lot of guys. 379 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: True. And then we're going to talk about two more 380 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:14,440 previous opponents of Tank Davis. And you were saying this 381 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:18,599 to us coming off of the weekend on the last pod, 382 00:17:19,279 --> 00:17:23,319 that it would not surprise you if PBC would squeeze 383 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,759 in one more card and it would have involved Lamont 384 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,599 Roach and Pitt Bull Cruise. What else have you learned 385 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,160 about when that might be et cetera go ahead? 386 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: Well, so obviously Roach was thinking he's going to get 387 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,759 the rematch of the draw from March against Tank Davis. 388 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:39,519 They fought to that very controversial draw. The knockdown that 389 00:17:39,599 --> 00:17:41,519 should have been called that the referee didn't call Steve 390 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:46,599 Willis and Tank Davis was supposed to move on from 391 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,440 that win if he got it infight Jake Paul back 392 00:17:49,519 --> 00:17:53,559 then didn't happen. He exercises right to a rematch against 393 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,519 Lamont Roach, and so that was being planned at various 394 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:58,119 times in the summer. It didn't happen. Obviously, Tank had 395 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,279 to do you know, he had the legal iss shoes 396 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:04,240 with the assault, the domestic abuse situation. Ultimately the case 397 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,079 was dropped, so he was no longer dealing with that. 398 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,400 In any event, the fight, the rematch with Roach kept 399 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,480 getting delayed, and then he said forget about it, and 400 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,519 he is now taking the fight with Jake Paul or 401 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,599 the exhibition with Jake Paul. So that left Lamont Roach, 402 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,960 you know, in need of an opponent. 403 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: Now. 404 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: When Many pakiall fought the fight with Mario Barrios back 405 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,240 in July, there was a lot of discussion after that 406 00:18:22,279 --> 00:18:23,720 fight that Many would come back and fight at the 407 00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:25,960 end of the year in December, you know, and headline 408 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,400 one of these types of shows again. And they were 409 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,400 talking about maybe he would fight Roland Romero. They were 410 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,799 talking about maybe they would do a Barrios rematch. Was 411 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:33,559 all kinds of different things that were being tossed rat. 412 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:36,000 It is my understanding, and I've talked to a variety 413 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,720 of people that are directly involved with this event, is 414 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,880 Pakia will not fight again the rest of this year. 415 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,240 He'll be back probably in January February, but in the 416 00:18:43,279 --> 00:18:46,039 meantime they still are going to do a final show 417 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,000 in December, December sixth or December twentieth, and the fight 418 00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:53,319 will be headlined by lamont Roach challenging Isaac Pittbull Cruz 419 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,079 for his WBC Interim Junior weal to rate belt, which 420 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,960 he won on the Pacio undercard back in July, although 421 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,319 drove me crazy because he did so against a late replacement. 422 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,720 They fight only schedule for ten rounds, not the twelve 423 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:07,279 round championship distance, but you know who's counting. 424 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: This would presumably be a twelve round interim Junior welterway 425 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,200 title fight in December. 426 00:19:12,279 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: Yes, for the interim belt exactly. So as a matchup, 427 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,480 I find Pitbull Cruise against the mont Roach should be 428 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,880 actually a pretty good fight. My question, and again it's 429 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,480 not my money, so I don't have to worry about it. 430 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:25,000 But I don't know if that sells as an eighty 431 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,920 dollars pay per view main event, now PBC doesn't do. 432 00:19:28,519 --> 00:19:30,920 To PBC's credit, they've done a very good job, similar 433 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,799 to like MVP when they do these undercards. They've put 434 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:36,480 their best foot forward and done excellent shows for the 435 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:39,039 remainder of the show as far as beyond the main event. 436 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:41,200 But I don't know how much it sells. But Pitbull 437 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,799 has a good fan base. And by the way, one 438 00:19:42,839 --> 00:19:45,559 thing was told very specifically by one of the people 439 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,920 directly involve with this event is it probably will not 440 00:19:48,079 --> 00:19:49,720 take place in Las Vegas, which would sort of be 441 00:19:49,759 --> 00:19:53,440 an upset because the PBC on Prime Video pay per 442 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:55,480 views have most I think all of them. Actually maybe 443 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:57,279 I'm missing one, but I think they've all taken place 444 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,960 in Las Vegas so far. Take that back when Lamont 445 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:03,759 Roach fought Tank that was in New York, but most 446 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:05,680 of them have been in Vegas. But for this one, 447 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,119 they're looking to go maybe to Texas or somewhere in 448 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,160 the southwest. San Diego was mentioned to me. Phoenix was 449 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,400 mentioned to me. Take advantage of the tank of the 450 00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:16,680 Tank of the Pitbull, who has a very healthy following 451 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,240 among the Mexican fan base of the Mexican Americans, so 452 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,480 that that will be the way that they probably close 453 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:22,920 up the year. 454 00:20:24,839 --> 00:20:28,599 Speaker 2: Moving along, there was a press conference Thursday in Japan 455 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:32,640 where the brother of Naoia in a way, Takuma in Away, 456 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,880 is now involved in a vacant WBC bantamweight title fight. 457 00:20:36,519 --> 00:20:39,680 Tell me more about the circumstances and the opponent real quick. 458 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,599 Speaker 1: Well, it was just in a few last few days 459 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,160 last week or so that Jinto Nakatani, who was the 460 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:48,640 unified bantam wait champion, vacated the titles. He is moving up. 461 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,079 We discussed it on the one of the previous shows. 462 00:20:51,079 --> 00:20:53,599 He's to be part of that December twenty seventh card 463 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,839 in Saudi Arabia, a read a season or a ring 464 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,559 magazine card whatever they're calling it, a Turkey al sheet 465 00:20:58,599 --> 00:21:00,920 cart where the main event will be in a way, 466 00:21:01,519 --> 00:21:06,680 defending against Picasso there and they're putting Nakatani, as you know, 467 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,559 because the fights are all Japanese boxers taken on other 468 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,079 fighters some other areas of the world. And so now 469 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,359 this is exciting because you have Nakatani coming into the 470 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,599 way class where in Away is. They're both now going 471 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,880 to be a one hundred and twenty two pounds as 472 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,880 we hopefully line up for what will be a mega 473 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,279 fight for Japan and for boxing. Frankly sometime in twenty 474 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,839 twenty six, in the first half of the year. I 475 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:28,799 would think in the spring, where Nakatani and in a 476 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,920 way will fight each other, assuming they both win their 477 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,160 fights in November. But he vacated the title, so to 478 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,039 fill that vacancy to WBC had ordered the negotiations and 479 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,480 if they didn't make a deal there would have been 480 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,680 a purse bid. But apparently the sides have made a 481 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:44,240 deal because on Thursday they had the press covers in 482 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,240 Tokyo and this fight will take place November twenty fourth. 483 00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:50,920 To fill the vacant WBC title be Tension Nasakawa, who 484 00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:54,720 has had some exposure on the ESPN Plus under cards 485 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:56,240 for a lot of the Japanese cards that they have 486 00:21:56,319 --> 00:21:58,920 done with in a way with NaIO in Away the 487 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,240 older brother. Obviously, people might know not Nasakawa because he 488 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,359 was the famous Japanese kickboxer who with the very first 489 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:10,599 exhibition that Floyd Mayweather did post his retirement, fought Mayweather 490 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:14,480 was a much heavier fighter and got absolutely pummeled and 491 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:17,279 knocked out and destroyed in the first round. But as 492 00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:19,880 a professional boxer now he's doing it full time. You know. 493 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,400 He's like seven and always look pretty good. He's a 494 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,480 southpaw and he's fighting not in the Floyd mayweather Way 495 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:27,279 class like in the one forties or one fifties. He's 496 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:29,440 fighting at one hundred and eighteen pounds. He's taken on 497 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,640 Takuma in a way, who used to be the Bandonway 498 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,200 title holder of the WBA, So he's been a good 499 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,519 contender for a while. He is coming off of a loss. 500 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:40,000 But anyway, that is the fight to fill this vacancy. 501 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:42,240 And if this was a few months ago, we would know, Okay, 502 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:43,960 this is going to be on ESPN Plus, but now 503 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,799 we'll have to wait and see what they come up 504 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,839 with in terms of a American streamer or broadcaster. It 505 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,000 will be on Prime Video in Japan, where many of 506 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:54,599 these events are, but it's still not announced or if 507 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,279 there is anything in terms of the United States. 508 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,079 Speaker 2: All right, a couple of more things. The Chris u 509 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,000 Bank and Connor Ben undercard for November has been brought up. 510 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:08,720 Anything stand out to you, maybe a couple things stand 511 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:10,279 out to you from that undercard. What about it. 512 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,839 Speaker 1: Nothing. I mean it's really similar to the first one 513 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,680 and not a surprise, to be quite honest, is it 514 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:17,759 is very very British centric. I mean they're not doing 515 00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:21,839 anything for a worldwide audience, certainly nothing for the United States. 516 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,240 This is all about the UK audience. So we all 517 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,480 know about the main event Chris Ubank Junior in the 518 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:29,880 rematch with Connor Ben from their fantastic fight earlier in 519 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,799 the year November fifteenth, same venue as where the first 520 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:36,039 one was at the Tottenham hotspurst Stadium in London. But 521 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,599 the co feature was announced as well as other undercard fights, 522 00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:40,240 and the co feature is the one that does stand out. 523 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:42,880 It's Adam Azine, who we've talked about. We spoke on 524 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,519 one of the recent shows about he had just signed 525 00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:46,720 a new deal with Boxer his promoter. They're also the 526 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:49,000 promoter for u Bank Junior, so he's going to get 527 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,359 some tremendous exposure. In the co feature, He's taken on 528 00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:56,359 a very tough, experienced, durable guy in Zara Abdeliav, who 529 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,279 you might remember not that long ago fought raymar Ataya 530 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,079 for a vacant title. He also got stopped years ago 531 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,119 by Devin Haney in a interim title fight. So he's 532 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,880 got his experience against some good quality opposition. So that 533 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,880 will be the co feature, a junior welterweight fight, and 534 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,839 then you've got another one of the undercard downs they announced. 535 00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:17,319 Among the various ones they announced was Jack Catterrell, who's 536 00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:19,680 now fighting as a welter right, He's gonna fight Echo Estuman, 537 00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:25,039 who retired Josh Taylor. That there's been some reporting and 538 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,839 I've seen stuff that Caterall's posted on his social media. 539 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,440 He's changed trainers and this has sort of struck me 540 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,880 as out of the blue. He's gonna now train with 541 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,400 Bozy Ennis, who is the father of Jern Boutsennis. So 542 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:38,000 it was just a I don't know how that connection happened, 543 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,599 but it would be the last thing I would have 544 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,079 thought of. But he obviously wants a change of pace. 545 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,400 He's come to an American trainer. That'll be their first 546 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,640 fight together. In Estuman earned himself this type of exposure 547 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,480 against a name opponent, a good contender like Caterall by 548 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,440 the way that he took care of Josh Taylor unexpectedly 549 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,599 not that long ago. They've added Richard Ria Kopore, who 550 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,039 has been involved in some bigger fights in the lower 551 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:03,759 weight class, but now he's coming up to the heavyweight 552 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:06,799 division to fight Tommy Welch, not exactly a well known fighter. 553 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,759 You got Ishmael Davis against Sam Gilly. So again it's 554 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:12,920 very British centric. But for my purposes as a fan 555 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,240 besides me and then, I'm very interested to see how 556 00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:18,720 adam Azeem deals with a very durable, rugged, tough, solid 557 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:21,359 quality guy like zauerb Delive. This is a big step 558 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,960 off rohim. I know he's got the win over Sergei Lippinetz, 559 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,240 who's a former world champion, but I feel like zauerb 560 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:28,680 Delive is I'm a lot fresher and a lot better 561 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:30,759 right now in his career than Lipinez was, even though 562 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:34,400 Lipinitz has a bigger name. And for Caterrell, I guess 563 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,480 I mean, look, Jack, I've said this for a lovely guy, 564 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,799 you know, good boxer, I find him to be extremely 565 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,400 boring to watch. We'll see if Bozie Edmis can put 566 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,400 a little spring in a step, let's say, on the 567 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,480 offensive side of the game. 568 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,599 Speaker 2: They both have in common that they beat Josh Taylor, 569 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,400 and so that's part of the lure of that I 570 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,799 one more note, and that is Lindolfo Delgado and Gabrielle 571 00:25:56,839 --> 00:26:01,279 Golas of Valezuela are going to fight in a one 572 00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:05,920 forty pound IBF title eliminator where the winner would theoretically 573 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,559 be in line to fight Richardson Hitchins. Tell me more 574 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,000 about this, including when and where. 575 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: So the winner of this fight will be the mandatory 576 00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:15,680 for Richards and Hitchins, you know, assuming that Richards and 577 00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:18,119 Hitchins decide to stay in the wake class and or 578 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,960 defend this title. This is not a surprise. This was 579 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,880 the fight that was ordered. If you remember, go back 580 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,119 a few months ago, Delgado had been ordered to fight 581 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,599 Liam Paro. Paro did not participate in the purse bit 582 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,519 pulled out and decided he was going to stay. He 583 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:31,960 had had one fight a little bit over the one 584 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,400 hundred and forty pound way class. He was going to 585 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,599 stay at welterway and then just about a week ago 586 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:37,960 he ended up winning an IBF eliminator in the welterweight 587 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,920 division to get a title shot in that division. So 588 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,279 when he pulled out against Delgado, they went down their 589 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,599 ratings and the next guy was Gabriel Golez Vealezuela, So 590 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,480 that's the matchup. It will take place. November fifteenth is 591 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:50,480 the date supposedly it's going to happen. It will take 592 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,160 place in San Louis Potosi in Mexico, and they will 593 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,559 duke it out for the right to become the mandatory challenger. 594 00:26:56,599 --> 00:26:59,039 And that particular card, which we put on by zan 595 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,279 for Promotions, will be heavily populated by a lot of 596 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,039 top rank fighters. As we've discussed many times, Top Ranks 597 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:06,960 still without a broadcast deal. They have a very close 598 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,119 relationship with Zanferd Promotions. They also have a number of 599 00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:13,440 Mexican and Mexican American fighters on their roster, Delgado being 600 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:15,319 one of them. There's been a lot of discussion that 601 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,480 maybe Raphael Espinoza, the featherweight title holder of the WBO, 602 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:20,680 that he will fight on this card in the main event. 603 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,680 There's been some stuff doubt he might fight Luis Alberto Lopez. 604 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,519 I talked to Top Rank and ask them. They're like, 605 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,799 we're not doing that fight, so we'll see, you know 606 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,559 if they're lying. 607 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,599 Speaker 2: Or theoretically they would know. So either either it's not 608 00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:36,799 happening or they are lying one of the two, yeah. 609 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Or maybe they're talking about it, but it's nowhere near 610 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,160 being done. And like some people like to, you know, 611 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,759 get out in front of things when they put stuff 612 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:44,920 on their Internet sites or on their Twitter account or whatever. 613 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,000 But suffice it to say, there's probably a good chance 614 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:49,960 Espinoza finds his way into the main event, be it 615 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,400 against Lopez or somebody else, and that Delgado will be 616 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,400 in this limit or on the show they've talked about having, 617 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:59,319 like maybe Emeliano Vargas on that show. I've seen some 618 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,079 stuff that potentially Richard Torres, the heavyweight, we might be 619 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,799 on that cart. But Delgado went down as well as 620 00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:06,720 the one fight. As far as the bout is signed 621 00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:09,279 and locked in, uh, you know, and uh, and that 622 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,440 fight is happening, and that's got some stakes involved. 623 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,559 Speaker 2: We haven't seen Richard Torres recently, and he was kind 624 00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,200 of you know, in the in the consciousness on the 625 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,000 front burner or whatever. And uh, he's been victimized obviously 626 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,119 by they don't have a deal right now, they don't 627 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,000 have shows, So stay tuned, stay tuned on what's gonna 628 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,359 happen with that. 629 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,079 Speaker 1: Well, one thing about Richard though, he I mean, at 630 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,519 least he's been overall, he's been somewhat active, Yes, since April. 631 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,200 That was his biggest win he got that. 632 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: That's his only fight of the year though. Yeah, as 633 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,240 we said here now on the precipice of Precipice, let's 634 00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:40,799 let me pull out Precipice on a late night Thursday night. 635 00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Reasons why he might be on that show to gad 636 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,880 a second fighting, but he is at least coming off 637 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,880 with the biggest win back in April where he beat 638 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,519 uh Wuido Vannello. What I always find to be kind 639 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,599 of wild is that here you have that fight goes 640 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,160 down between Torres and Viennello. Vnello loses and he's already 641 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,319 scheduled to be back. He's fighting on a Mattroom card 642 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,880 coming up, and the guy that beat him in Torres 643 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,680 doesn't get happen if he'sh fight set and but that's 644 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:02,359 kind of crazy to me. 645 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: But maybe it's on this card like you mentioned in November. Yeah, okay, 646 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,759 So a couple more plugs go to the Big Fight 647 00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:12,160 Weekend YouTube page for several reasons. Good nostalgia on the 648 00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:16,319 Michael Spinks upset of a forty eight and oh Larry Holmes, 649 00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:19,960 the anniversary of which was earlier this week, this past weekend. 650 00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:21,720 Go check that out as well as the Sugar Ray 651 00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,759 Leonard anniversary of the win, now about ten days ago. 652 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:27,119 As we do this over Thomas Hearns, you can relive 653 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,160 Dan and I talking about it in the nostalgia great 654 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920 stuff on the page, and again go to that page 655 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:36,599 our Big Fight Weekend YouTube page because the video of 656 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,880 our conversation with Mark Kriegel will be there Sunday night, 657 00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:45,480 Sunday evening before the podcast release. See it first, Ray 658 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,000 Feel and audience see it first on the YouTube page, 659 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,799 and then pod audience. You'll hear it overnight Sunday night 660 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,160 into Monday. He's got the new Mike Tyson book out. 661 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640 He's talking at the beginning of our conversation about the 662 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Canelo Crawford and the Crawford upset, and it ranks good 663 00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:04,559 debate too. I made him pause and you and he 664 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,279 and I kind of went back and forth on prime 665 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,000 Terrence Crawford at welterweight versus prime Sugar Ray Leonard at welterweight. 666 00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:14,680 They need to hear him talking about that before we 667 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:17,480 talk to Mike Tyson and the baddest man in the 668 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,400 book that Mark Kriegel has written, so that's again coming 669 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,119 out Sunday night. So there's not really a lot to recap. 670 00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:27,319 Enjoy Mark Kriegel, it's a fun It flies by as 671 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,759 a conversation with Ray Feel and Kregel reminiscing. 672 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,799 Speaker 1: About any guests. Appearance by Mark Dogg and Mark's. 673 00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: Dog does also make an appearance on the video. You 674 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,960 got to see it and you'll hear it on the 675 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:40,319 pod feed as well. Anything else or are we good? 676 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,640 We're good at the weekend. 677 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: I would say, since there's no boxing you have any significance, 678 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,519 call your family, call. 679 00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: Your mother, call your family. Have fun with that again, 680 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,039 follow subscribe on this podcast feed. We love it. We're 681 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,240 not going anywhere here with all the insight going into 682 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:58,599 the weekend, usually in the preview mode, the recap's coming 683 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200 off the weekend. Go find the Big Fight Weekend YouTube 684 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,640 page once more, go find it there, Big Dan, have 685 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,319 a good weekend. Thank you as anyways, and we look 686 00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:08,079 forward to the next time that they see us and 687 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,839 hear us. Mark Kriegel is with us coming off the weekend. 688 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,839 For now, we're good on the Big Fight Weekend preview pod. 689 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: Bye