Speaker 1: Tonight, we continue our journey into the Twilight Zone in
print in the current run of id W Comics. And
as ever to talk about this issue with me tonight
is my good friend and podcast Zach Moore.
Speaker 2: Zach, welcome back, hellother Tom, thanks for having me back
on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Okay, so issue five, the one we thought was the
last one, but it's not. Let's kind of keep on going.
And I think that's a good thing because whether we
you know, like, dislike, or are indifferent to these issues,
I'm glad that this is I'm glad that this this
series is getting made. You know. We talked about various things,
the black and white comics, giving it a certain flavor,
each one being a different creative team. And I'm really
enjoying this, Jenny, you know, And like I say, we
don't like everyone, but I kind of like trying to
figure it out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we enjoy reading these we enjoy talking about
them on the podcast, sharing our thoughts about them. But
they are lower stakes than say, if there was a
new version of the Twilight Zone and there's episode right,
So these are these are low steaks, you know, So
if we love one or don't love one. Like it's like, okay,
sure give me the other comic. I'll be here next month.
And so there's a lot less at steak here in
a comic book than Oh, they've rebooted The Twilight Zone again.
There's gonna be ten episodes. Here we go, let's all
talk about it, right. So it's a little more just
a little relaxed, relaxed to talk about these, right.
Speaker 1: You know, you hit the nail on the head. I'm
not going to go back into twenty nineteen more a
stressful period of my life. That was, but you know
you and I like that show, but it was certainly
a very tumultuous time, whereas this is a lot more relaxed,
like you say, a lot less in the stakes. And
I think people just tend to accept the Twilight learn
a bit more in other media other than the main
one television, so they're probably a lot more forgiving of
various things. So yeah, I'm enjoying this journey. And tonight
we have a new issue which is called Silent Warning,
and this one is written by El Marlo Francavilla and
Francesco Francavilla, and Francesco is also the artist. I think
he's an artist that I've come across before. His name
rings a bell. Maybe he's done some covers in the
past that have been aware of, but he's certainly very familiar.
I do like the art style in this one before
we even get into the story. I do feel that
this is very fitting for a Twilight Zone comic.
Speaker 2: Totally agree. I think this is the best artwork of
the series so far. I think it fits the material.
I think it fits the Twilight Zone. And I was like,
all right, they nailed it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some beautiful imagery at the beginning, and
there's a nice, big sort of gothic building there, just
the shadowness of it, you know, there's a lot of
light and shadow, and yeah, this one does look pretty good.
I might agree with you on that one. It's certainly
the most Twilight Zone artwork I think so far. Yeah,
I agree, this one's quite quite the story, we're introduced
to doctor m. Sorenson, who is described as a sound
way virtuoso. We all know one of those, Zach.
Speaker 2: Everybody know, everybody's circle of friends. You got a sound
way virtue us, you know.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, and she is I mean to keep it short.
She is drafted in by the American military because a
metia has fallen into the ocean and Hair and the
team have got to go down to just basically check
it out. And she's like, why do you need me
on this? You know? And we find out that it's
it's kind of emitting some sort of sound waves or something,
so they want Hair to go along and figure it out.
But she's part of this group, a group of four
guys and Hair who are gonna go down and check
this meteor out. And I think early on we get
the vibe that there's one of them, in particular the
Commander James Eddington, who seems to have a bit of
a problem where he's quite disparaging about her and you
know what she doing here? Why does she have to
be on this thing? And he's always kind of undermining
and I think that is possibly one of the themes
of this issue, which we will get to. But it's
a mission, not unlike the thirty fathom Grave, to go
down and check something out.
Speaker 2: You went with thirty fathom Grave. I went with a
similarly bad episode of The Twilight Zone eight from the
twenty nineteen show or twenty twenty show. I guess that
point from the Georgia Field to light Zone. I had
high hopes. I love Joe McHale of Community. I had
high hopes. I love octopuses, but that was a terrible
episode anyway. You know, the theme here is like unheard unseen, right,
because like even at the beginning in her introduction, which
by the way, did you take the speech bubbles like
as a continued rod Sterling narration or not, because there's
the whole like in the Twilight Zone when the meteor strikes,
but then the narration like continues where it's like quote
unquote standard comic book captions. But I was like, I
don't know, maybe you should have made that rod Sterling.
At the same time, you know, you know what I'm saying.
It's on like the second page there, they're introducing her
character talking about her, and I was like, well, maybe
that should have been the rod Sterling. Maybe it is.
I don't know. There's no rules against that format here,
but just throwing that out there.
Speaker 1: Tom, Yeah, I need to go back and check that out.
Maybe I didn't think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the theme here is like she she doesn't
feel heard by people, which which is interesting because she's
like an you know, audiologist, and she's talking to this
colleague and she's like doctor Nelson and he has something
that she needs and he's like, oh, what's that? Did
you say something? I'm like, okay. So they're planning the
seeds of this, the theme that like she is either
not heard or not seen, and the crew to treat
you this way, except there's one the one. There's one
guy on the crew, the treacher respect the other ones
will kind of cutting her off and kind of like
saying her own words back to her as ideas, and
so you can see where she's you can see where
they're going with this. But then there's this mysterious asteroid
that only she can hear. Tom.
Speaker 1: You know, some of the details I think got away
with me a little bit. I mean, because it's pretty
dry subject matter. You know, it is no pun intended
that it all takes place matter actually, but you know,
they're talking a few technicalities, and it's the Commissioner Gordon
looking guy who who is who tends to give it
a bit more of a bit more leeway and actually
listens to it a bit more, isn't it. I think
some of those details maybe passed me by I need
to maybe give it another.
Speaker 2: Also, didn't hear Sorens and you are part of the problem, tom.
Speaker 1: My goodness, it's so meta, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: But already, like they've established like like a theme here
and some character just quirks their motivations, which I'm like,
we're already on better ground because we were pretty tough.
If you listened to the last episode about the comic
books we did, we were pretty tough on the whole,
like introducing these characters and like you're listening to the
podcast and the pain like all that kind of thing,
like like it's a very a deft hand here with
these character reductions, I think. And and also just aesthetically,
you know, we talked about the art work already, but
the time period, if you want to call it that,
I feel like it's in this, you know, sixties esque,
Like the car is some cool Cadillac looking corvette or
looking thing from the sixties. The submarine looks very like
like futuristic but tomorrow, and technology like the diving suits
they go in or old school like this. This is
the vibe the of the Twilight Zone. If there are
any I think those are what those are and so
I responded, well to that is not just the way
everything was drawn, but like the designs of things, the vehicles,
all that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And the cast, you know, just not necessarily middle aged,
but just a very sort of adult, straight ahead cast
that you could imagine could have been cast by people
of that time, you know. So I think that is
another one where it feels like, Okay, this feels like
Twilight Zone. I mean, we have some undersea scenes here,
and the conversation has always been could this have been
made as an original Twilight Zone? And this is probably
the part where it stretches it the most, but not insurmountable.
Probably they could have done something to represent them under
the ocean in these diving suits. I'm sure we've seen
nothing comes to mind off the top of my head,
but I'm sure we've seen something similar in the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 2: What they what they could do, Like, why are we
applying nineteen sixties television next to a twenty twenty six comic,
But we're gonna do it. What they could have done is,
you know, just put some people in suits and then
just put like a little wave filter in front of
the camera, Like so they aren't actually underwater. You know.
That's that's a trick. And it's always funny to me
when they combine both, like in movies and TV shows,
it's like, Okay, well that's underwater. That is clearly not
So maybe I would rather just not do any underwater
stuff than draw attention to the fact that the other
stuff is clearly not underwater. But yeah, look, you go
to the prop closet, you find some old diving suits,
You go out like in the desert, you put a
little filter in front of the camera. There you're underwater. Boom.
I would I would love to be a TV producer
in nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: Or you have them in a little kind of sub
submarine pod that comes off the main one and they're
just looking out the wind.
Speaker 2: They don't actually go in suits. Even even better, even better,
look at that, even a better producer than me. I
saved you five hundred thousand dollars. Tom saved you nine
hundred thousand dollars. Just there, guys.
Speaker 1: But where the budget is all going to go is
on what they encounter while they're under there, because when
they get next to this media, they come across these
kind of mutant fish. They look like killer piranhas or something,
but you know, big teeth, sort of vacant eyes, and
the fish are attacking them while they're under the water.
One of the divers get attacked by and another one
ends up killing this fish. And I actually think this
builds tension pretty well. You know, these underwater sequences I
think are really nicely rendered. You know. Then these fish
come along, one of them gets killed, and they all
come back onto the submarine and they start to talk
about what even is this thing? You know it must
be as a result of getting too close to this metia.
So the implication is that possibly this media is mutating
any life that comes into contact with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me a minute to figure out, Like
do the fish is this an artistic thing? Do they
look this way? Is this how fish look in this
comic book? Or or have they been altered to be
more like a great like you see big white eyes
and really pronounced teeth and that sort of thing. And
it's the effect that this meteorite is having because when
they all go meteorite, yes, when they all go, the
crew goes out to investigate this media. Right, the doctor
stays our main character, Sorenson stays on the ship and
she starts hearing something and you're like, whoa, what could be?
No one else hears it? Right, So that that kind
of sets up again that she's on this no pun
intended different wavelength than everybody else, and that's gonna play
into the rest of the story.
Speaker 1: She's inside the ship and she's got her headphones on,
and she's like, am I the only one who can
hear this? This the humming noise? Again? Right before the
fish attacked, I heard a humming noise in my headset
and the sonic analyzer picked up a spike. Nobody will
listen to me, but you know this is weird, right,
So again it's this theme of no one's really listening
to what she's saying apart from Commissioner Gordon, and least
of all is the commander of the ship. But the
commander says, you two and your music talk ridiculous. Commissioner
Gordon says, James, fish just don't randomly attack. What if
those pulses are related to the mutations and behavior changes,
we should at least investigate. And the commander says, Andy,
If you're right and those pulses truly affected the fish,
what about other life forms. So now we're faced with
this dilemma. The commander just wants to blow it up.
He wants to blow up the METEA yep, because he
thinks it's too dangerous, whereas Sorenson says, destroy you. But
this could represent a huge leap forward in science. My
instruments detected waves and frequencies never had before. Andy, don't
you want to know why this happened? So it's it's
this old thing of you know, do we go with
the risk to advance science or is this thing just
too dangerous overall? I don't know. Maybe it feels a
bit more out of limits to me at the moment
than Twilight Zone, But I don't think it's too far
out there that we can't say it's twilight zone.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a good call. I mean, especially where
we end up ultimately, and maybe a little more our
limits than than twilight Zone. That's probably why we're saying
that now. But still feels like you're going to contain environment.
You have, you have some character dynamics which are interesting,
you know, different motivations and stuff. So like I was
really buying what they what they were putting down with
them with this because you actually understand why they would
want to destroy this, I think because the general guy
at the beginning tells the captain, He's like, hey, if
it's a problem, you got to get rid of it.
And of course you would, because it's a mysterious object
from out her space. It's putting. So you see, they're
not just blown up for the sake of it. I mean,
I don't know, like I didn't think so there is
just cause because they've already mutated these fish, what are
they going to do to people like I don't know? Right?
And then you have this sympathetic scientist who, you know, what,
if only maybe the other crew would hurt her out,
they would come to some kind of understanding and and
and work together. But because they've shut her out and
written her off, she is going to respond to the
one thing that is speaking to her and then and
then and then she's speaking to it, so that that's
where her allegiances are going to end up lying.
Speaker 1: At the end, you kind of nailed the issue for
me in a way that I probably hadn't got my
head around just yet. But that's the thing with some
of these issues, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I think the stuff to think about and really figure
out what it means to you now. Sometimes like maybe
with the last issue it was like, I'm not sure
we can't figure this out. Yeah, But with this one,
I think you hit the nail on the head that
I kind of got that that's what it was getting at.
But you've really crystallized it, crystallized it quite well that
she's the only one who can hear this noise they're
not listening to. Maybe, yes, if they'd have had that
discussion where they talked about it, then there could have
been something that would have satisfied everyone and they could
have figured something out, but they don't. So in the end,
Sorenson just says, right, well, if you're not going to
listen to me, then I'm out of here. She leaves
all of them at the bottom of the ocean because
they're out there and they're diving suits. Now she drives
the sub and the media kind of it is the
Metea right, kind of grows arms and latches onto the
ship as she's getting away.
Speaker 2: There is a line earlier where before the cre even
goes out there, she's like, you guys are gonna like
run any tests. We don't even know if this isn't meteor,
and the captain says, what else could it be? And
that's when I'm like, oh, it's not gonna be me Like, like,
I like how they sprinkled that in there, but I
was like, there is gonna be some sort of twist
about what it is. And it seems to be some
sort of just you know, organism from outer space. And
then it had just been kind of in its shell
or whatever, and then it latches onto the the ship
because she's like, we can learn so much from you,
come with me. Because she leaves these guys to die
with these mutated sharks. All it is. Actually I quite
like that little sequence, just the way it was, the panels,
how they were all laid out, because you can kind
of see your mind's eye, you can see how this
would be like in an episode. You'd see like the
cuts to her and the and her eyes and then
them dying outside. And I don't know, like it was.
It was pretty dark, but like a in a good way.
It had I get no pun intended. It had some
bite to it, right, I mean with it she just
left these guys to die underwater. I mean, so that's
pretty horrible. And yeah, look, I mean they should have
listened to her, Yes, but then they all deserve to
be horribly killed by mutated sharks. I don't think so.
And now we have this unknown alien entity that she
is taking back to the base with the submarine.
Speaker 1: And when she gets back to the base, you got
some military men watching the submarine surface and one of
them says, Captain, it's been five hours since they last
make contact. Take a lieutenant Jeremy and go on board first.
So they end up having to force the door open.
And when they get on there, they see Sorenson from behind.
Speaker 2: It it's very it's very psycho, right, it's like a
very psycho Yeah, it's dark as a chair that's turned
away from you. You're gonna turn that chair around. And
what do we see, Tom?
Speaker 1: It's a version of Sorenson that is horribly mutated. You know.
We can hear that kind of noise in the background,
and she makes this sort of guttural noise as well.
The military man says, get medical in here, stat lieutenant,
get a move on, and he says, what is the
meaning of this? I command you to put away your weapon,
and then he says, I can't let you hit or
so it suggests that he too has been kind of
taken over by whatever it is now in control of Sorenson.
Speaker 2: Yes, I also was not entirely clear Tom. It's just funny,
like I'm like, okay, I can't wait to get on
here with Tom. And I'm sure between the two of us,
one of us knows what happened. No, we get on here,
like I don't know what happened? Do you know what happened? No,
this is probably I enjoyed this quite a bit. I
think my least favorite thing was the very end, because
I'm not sure because like, she's mutated. Is that a
good thing? Is that a bad thing? Like for her? Anyway? Right?
Is this alien turning other people into aliens like her?
Is she suffering a horrible fate because she bet on
the wrong team here? I don't know. And then we
just kind of That's the thing with all of these
other than I guess the third one, they all have
these endings where it's like, oh, there should be one
more act of story here. I mean, there'sn't have to be,
but everything ends on some kind of like weird unresolved cliffhanger.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, yeah, it's it's kind of like they're
not quite twists. They're sainly unusual, but it's not a
twist where you go, oh, okay, that right, Okay. It's
just more shock endings than twist endings in a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a scary short story where it's like,
and then he turned around and he was in the
car the whole time, and it's like, well, I guess
the person in the back seat's gonna kill the narrator,
you know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's how these end.
And I know, like I don't dislike, I don't know.
I really enjoyed the issue for the most part, but
the end I was like lefting kind of like, oh, so,
are we to assume this alien is now going to
just keep transmitting this and take over.
Speaker 1: The earth, possibly like the squid innate? Yes, yes, yes,
I mean, let's see whether we can get any clues
from the closing narration. And so, in the mysterious twilight
of the Ocean's depths, Dr Emily Sorenson, longing to be heard,
was heralded by the song of a meteorite. In its
wake came the echo of monsters born not in space,
nor in the deep, but from the restless tides of
the human mind. What he doesn't even say the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 2: Okay, well it does say in the mysterious Twilight tom
So maybe they didn't want to say twilight Zone. Nothing
is worse than that line and episode listened to me
and that line and issue too were some got a
Twilight Zone. Yeah, so if I had to choose in
if it's either that or not saying it, let's just
not say it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure I have discovered all of
the mysteries that this issue has to offer. However, and
this is probably no surprise from the conversation we've had.
I think in a lot of ways it nails the
Twilight Zone, probably more than the others, at least aesthetically. Yes, yes,
it has a theme of if you have an expert there,
who know, who is the top of her field, and
she's telling you something, then maybe you should listen to her.
But I think, you know, there's a lot of conversation
in this It was a little dry sometimes, but it
certainly seemed twilight Zone in the volume of conversation. They
talk things out quite a lot, So yeah, you know,
it might have ended up a bit more out of
limits than Twilight Zone. But I think I did enjoy
this one quite a bit. If there was like ten
issues with this art work as the regular artwork, you'll
probably be quite happy with it as a Twilight Zone comic,
wouldn't you. Yeah, So I think this one, you know,
nailed things pretty well. What about you?
Speaker 2: I agree than again that the very end stinger, we're
both like, uh, what does it mean? Because it's like
from the human mind. I was like, well, there actually
was an alien there that controlled their minds and be
dated them. So it's not some like they didn't play
it where like she just went crazy. That's another angle
you could have taken, I guess, but like they like
projected her like own like insecurities and to this nothing
and then so that that would be an interesting thing
to do, if that would be more in line I
guess with what the narration is trying to say. I
think in the end, because it didn't quite put the
bow on it that we were looking for. Because that's
again that's I want Rod Stilling to hold my hand
and take me out of this situation and tell me
what I should have learned that it's okay, you're safe.
They're not, but you're safe, that sort of thing. I
really enjoyed it, though. I think you nailed it where
you said if if they came out with Toilight Zone
did issues and they all looked like this and le
don't have the same vibe as this, Uh, I think
we'd all be very happy because I enjoyed this journey.
And it's that that that subtlety that we that was
lacking an issue four with, like, look at this guy.
He's a bad dude. He's he's listening to podcasts and
his basement is alphabro. Right, It's like, okay, well, I
know who the quote unquote hero and villain are of
this story. This one is very listen. There's a lot
of nuance here because obviously the people who weren't listening
to her and had wronged her in that way were right,
because this alien asteroid is now taking over and mutating people,
so maybe we should have destroyed it. So I don't
know that there's there's conversation to be had here, And
like you were saying earlier, like you want to.
Speaker 1: That's a actually we shouldn't. We actually shouldn't have listened to.
Speaker 2: It, But the fact that we're sitting here like talking
about it is interesting as opposed to like issue four,
we're like, I don't know what even happened. But then,
you know, not even any of these toilets and stories
I'm thinking about, but like other more simple stories where
it's like, oh, well, here's the good guy and here's
the bad guy, and the good guy if they do
the bad guy in the most boring way possible in
the story, we don't want stories like that. So the
fact that there's stuff here we can kind of reread
and delve into and kind of unpack is it makes
it worth our time. Really.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to redo my rankings based on
this latest issue. You know, whether we can carry on
with that going forward, we'll see depends how many issues they.
Speaker 2: Do breaking out the carkboards and at that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now it's it's probably a little bit of
a battle for the top spot. I'm still going to
go with number three because I just really like that
idea of something from one time period being misinterpreted in
another time period, and the whole thing of how humans
latch onto certain things, as you know, they take it
as their gospel when they don't truly understand it or
know it, or humanity just needs something to grab onto.
I like all those themes in that issue number two.
I would go with this one because I still feel
like maybe there's some things that I have to discovering this.
I think another couple of reads, maybe some of that
stuff will bed in. But like we spoke about it,
it has the most twilight zoned vibe of them all,
certainly aesthetically, and there's a you know, an interesting message
here as well. So that one I would go second,
and number three I would go issue number one blanks,
and then number four I would go the previous issue,
issue number four, the one with the hole in the
bottom of the boat. And then last I would go
issue number two. Okay, So where would this one fit
in your ranking, Zach? I?
Speaker 2: Again similar to you, I would rank them issue number three,
issue number five. This one here, issue number one, issue
number two, issue number four. So I'm glad we have
some slight variation here, Tom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've just put this one in the same place,
plugged in into that second place spot. Yeah, okay, good, Well,
I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next. You know,
this is the thing about Like you mentioned in the
last episode, this is the thing about anthologies, especially when
there's a new creative team with each issue. You just
don't know what you're going to get. So even if
one doesn't quite work for you, the next one might. Yeah,
and that's what has happened this time, So Zach, I
don't know when the next one will be, you know,
but I'm sure we will get back onto these at
some point in the future.
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, I did little research in between okay, our
last episode in this episode, and I found an article
from sci Fi Wire explaining what's up with the Twilid
Zone comic books. Let me read a little excerpt for you.
Speaker 1: Hot off the Press, Got off the.
Speaker 2: Press, Hot Off the Press from this is how up
to date we are. January fifteenth, twenty twenty sixth.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: IDW extends Twilight Zone stay with more comics inspired by
Rod Sterling's anthology. IDW isn't ready to leave the Fifth
Dimension behind us yet. Sci Fi Wire can exclusively announce
that the publisher will continue the success of its Twilight
Zone hot streak with a Soft Moore volume of five
more standalone comics inspired by rod Sterlings groundbreaking anthology. So
this was volume one. They're going to do a volume two.
A couple of quotes from the people behind the comic.
We're thrilled that readers are loving this mind bending anthology
as much as we are. Series co editor Ellen Boner
said in a January fifteenth statement. Our next stories promised
to lure us even deeper into the dark moral labyrinth
of the Twilight Zone. Here's hoping we never escape and
then last thing I'll read is added fellow co editor
Nicholas Nino. The Twilight Zone has been such a special
project because it's celebrates the creators that are part of it.
Each story is a product of its creative team, with
everybody infusing so much of their own DNA into their stories.
It's a dream to work on this series, and when
readers see the array of talent contributing to the second volume,
they'll come to feel as Ellen and I do, that
their favorite issue is always the latest one.
Speaker 1: So there you go, there you go. I actually really
like that. It means that I guess it must be
doing okay sales wise, they'll let and creators kind of
do their own thing, and maybe it's us who should
be a bit more forgiving if it doesn't always fit
the mold one hundred percent all the time. You know,
it's it's always a balance. Nothing's ever going to work
all the time for everybody. But I think I have
a lot of good will towards this series, and I
hope if this next five are of success, then they
keep going. You know, I think we can only win
off that.
Speaker 2: I think that volume by volume approach is really smart,
especially for some something like this. You know, it's a
niche thing, right, It's not quite Superman or Star Wars
or whatever.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we were very passionate, loyal, intelligent audience
over the Twilight Zone, but it just doesn't have as
much mainstream appeal as something like a Marvel comic book
would have. And that's just the reality of it. So
they're smart to like I would hate for them to
all Right, we're doing as they have done in the past,
as we've said many times on here, all right, new
Twad's on comic and then like seven issues in it
just disappears and you're like, what happened? You're like, oh,
they cancel it, but they do, Hey, volume one, Volume two,
Volume two goes, well, maybe it'll be a volume three.
I mean I don't know so to kind of know
what to expect. I mean I as and also as
people podcasting about it, we know how to plan ahead
and there's a comfort in that. So I think that's
a really smart approach on their front.
Speaker 1: Here's a thing I reached out to IDWL on didn't
get a response, But the door is always open if
you want to come and talk, if you know the
producer or whatever the comic books want to come and
talk about them. Give's a bit of insight into how
this is made then, and you know, please do come on.
But anyway, Zach love talking about these with you. Thank
you so much for coming on again. And let us
know where people can find you.
Speaker 2: Yes, you can find me and my podcast always hold
on to Smallville on social media at always Malville. With
one s, I'm going to go back to my comic
book Slash Live Action World myself with Smallville. We have
covered each in every episode of the Smallville television series.
So if you're interested in Smallville, you've heard about it,
you want to check me out over there, find your
favorite episode and start from there. And we also have
all kinds of Superman specials and talks, and Smallville has
its own comic books and novels too, which I'm going
to get to at some point here. And it's a
very different speed covering the written word and comic books
than it is covering an episode of a TV show,
as we have been learning here. Tom. So yeah, look
us up over there at Always Malville with one s.
Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely, and if you want to meet me
and Zach, you can come to Sailing Fest this August
and bring to New York, come and hang out, have
a drink, talk some twilight Zone talk, some Smallville, and
we would we would love to see you there. So
thanks again, Zach, I'll speak to you next time.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thanks.
Speaker 1: We will speak to you next time on the twilight
Zone podcast. Bye for now,