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Speaker 1: I would always hear like kids running and like laughing

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and playing around, and it was very very peculiar because

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there was no other kids on like heart of row

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of houses.

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Speaker 2: He felt that they were just visiting another old church.

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Then his family began experiencing things that followed them for years.

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In their second story, one family spent years sharing a

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farmhouse with something that they could never explain.

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Speaker 3: My name is Edwin.

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Speaker 2: Today will hear Franks and Magazine. It's true Scary Stories.

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Speaker 1: It happened around two thousand and three, so I was

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maybe twelve thirteen years old. Growing up, I was the youngest,

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so I was one of four, so I kind of

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grew up pretty quick. And when we used to watch

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stuff on TV, it used to be a lot around

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kind of ghost stories and places that were supposed to

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be haunted. So it was a point where we used

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to go driving, so we used to go to places

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like Pluckley and cham Dockyard. Pluckly is a place where

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the lay lines cross, so there's a lot of kind

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of witches supposed to be there. It's just a very

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small British eerie town. It's very foggy at night. When

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my mum was a young kid. She used to drive

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a lot with her friends and her brothers. These guys

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are tough. They kind of grew up. They were roofers.

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They were really In England, we call them proper geezers.

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They were real kind of blokes.

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Speaker 3: They were men.

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Speaker 1: One time, they were driving through Plucky and when you

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drive through Plucky, the fog just comes out of nowhere

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and it's right in front of you, maybe two or

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three feet off.

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Speaker 3: The road is clear, and then it's just a wall

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of fog.

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Speaker 1: My mum told me that they were driving through the

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country lanes doing sixty miles an hour, which is sort

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of one hundred kilometers an hour, and as they were driving.

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Speaker 3: There was an old lady in the middle of.

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Speaker 1: The road and they slammed their brakes on and ran

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straight through this woman. Now, as they stopped and turned around,

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nobody was there.

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Speaker 3: The woman literally had disappeared.

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Speaker 1: Now, hearing this was slightly scary because I've been to Plucky,

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their parents' bedrooms for weeks after gives.

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Speaker 3: It that extra eerie feeling.

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Speaker 1: And when we went to Plucky it was super foggy

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and super quiet, I mean eight o'clock at night, it

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was dead and Pluckly must have less than a thousand

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people in there, which is really small for like an English.

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Speaker 3: Village, so that really kind of freaked me out.

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Speaker 1: Pluckly is one of the places that you have to

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go to because you have to see the fog. When

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you go and experience that fog, it's insane, like three

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feet off the ground, it's clear, but above that a

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wall of fog chatting dockyard. And again that's another scary

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kind of place.

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Speaker 3: It's very haunting, is very eerie.

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Speaker 1: So we always used to kind of go to those

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places and then see if anything would happen.

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Speaker 3: One evening we.

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Speaker 1: Decided to drive to a place called Dough Church. None

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of us really knew much about it. It was little

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church tucked away. We knew it had a bit of

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a reputation for being kind of scary, not necessarily haunted

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in terms of black ghosts, but it's in the midd

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of nowhere.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the.

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Speaker 1: Oldest churches in England, and there's no electricity.

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Speaker 3: They do kind of behemian weddings and stuff there.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, it's just a very scary, eerie place.

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We decided to kind of take a drive, so as

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my mum, her boy friend, my older sister and her

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boyfriend and me so as Again I was twelve, so

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around eleven or midnight, very clear evening, no clouds, no rain.

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a single track lane and there is only one way

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in and one way out to get to Dough Church.

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it's very very sketchy. It's super tight. You have to

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pitch black because the street lights. As you get closer

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there's just there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: Of dead tree and it been struck by lightning, like

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fifty sixty years before that's happened.

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Speaker 3: It's split apart, it's dead.

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Speaker 1: It's just it looks super and as you drive past that,

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this was going to be a good start with nothing

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else around it stood out on its own, and you

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just on the left hand side.

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Speaker 3: And it'd been there for years.

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Speaker 1: The closer we get, we slowed down and looking at

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the car window, I noticed that there's kind of a

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light inside the church, and you're kind of thinking to yourself,

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will hold on, it's midnight. There's no electricity. There's only

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candle light. That's literally what they would use. I couldn't

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see the candle itself specifically, but the window was kind

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of lit up from inside behind, and I remember thinking,

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there's a silhouette.

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this eerie looking figure standing in that window. And at

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this point the car was standstill. So I'm there freaking

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Speaker 1: You know, we're watching Most Haunted and all these kind

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of scary things. Instantly, the light just switched off, as

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if it was just blown out. Now, everybody in the

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car saw it, and we all reacted. When it disappeared,

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we just thought, no, there's no chance that we're doing

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Speaker 3: Let's get out. Let's just go. Now. You maybe have

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to go another eight hundred yards to a mile to

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get to the turnaround point. When you get to the

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turnaround point, it's just like gravel. There's no the road stops.

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or six sort of individual little turns to get out

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and come back the other way. When we came back,

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super clear, just the stars and the moon. That's literally

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we can see maybe I'm not sure, three hundred four

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hundred yards past the church. My mum's boyfriend, he was

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driving at the time. He slowed down and said, what's

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that in the road? On the way up there was nothing,

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but on the way back, on the left hand side

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of the road there was this kind of old Victorian

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style pram, like from I don't know, nineteen twenties. They

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silver frame. It had kind of big four wheels, very

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on its side, and what next to it was like

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a rolled up blanket, and to me it looked like

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a baby sized blanket that unraveled slightly.

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Speaker 3: Now at this point, I'm so scared.

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Speaker 1: It is unbelievable, because not only did we see that

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Speaker 3: Side of the road that wasn't there on the way up.

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Speaker 1: Now at the time, my sister's boyfriend got out of

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the car and I was freaking out, shouting, get back

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in the car, we.

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Speaker 3: Need to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: And he got out, walked over and had a look,

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and maybe two feet away from it, everybody was shouting,

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get back in the car, get back in the car.

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so he was a bit more brave and a bit more,

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you know, not as scared as me. Especially my mum

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could see that I was getting very upset, so called

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him back and he came back in.

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Speaker 1: I think I was probably quite hysteric, but He said

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that he just felt like there was something that really

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wanted him to, like unwrap this blanket and look inside it,

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he said, but he heard something. He heard a noise,

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and he said it didn't sound like any kind of

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animal noise. It sounded more like this suck a whimper

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us shouting, and that noise made him stop and he

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came back to the car.

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Speaker 3: So we drove home. Not much was said on the

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Speaker 1: It was pretty pretty scary, and it was, you know,

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Speaker 3: We get home. Maybe two or three days.

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Speaker 1: I slept in my mum's room because I was that scared.

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old routine, not too bad, feeling confident and happy again.

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our house. Now, the house we lived in was kind

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of a fairly modern three story house, must have been

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maybe five ten years old at the time. Wasn't really

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an old building, no longer history, nothing like that. I

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when the internet was a bit more kind of prevalent,

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and there wasn't much history around kind of where it

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of yard, so to speak. So I can't really imagine

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it was like a you know, an old thing that

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would have had haunted things attached to it or anything

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like that. Small things were starting to happen. Nothing crazy,

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nothing's super scary, but these little things that made you

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kind of think, oh, is that normal?

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Speaker 3: Would that just be a noise.

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Speaker 1: Or is it actually something a bit more, kind of

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objects would start to kind of disappear, and then they'd

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end up in the air. In Copboared, it happened on

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a few times when you walked into the house and

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school stuff underneath that under the stairs, and I remember

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Speaker 3: And my shoes weren't there.

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Speaker 1: And as a kid, the first thing I would always do,

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I'd run under the stairs, kick my shoes off, and

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then run into my brother's room and play on his PlayStation.

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Speaker 3: So I knew that that's where they would be. They

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Speaker 1: Now it became such a prevalent thing that if anything

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of my drawings would kind of just disappear. I would

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instinctly say to my sisters, have we checked the air

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and cupboard in Low Behold.

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Speaker 3: They would always be in.

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Speaker 1: There, and I remember being really freaked out but also

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super fascinated by it, because I was an intuitive kid,

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you know, I was always interested in these kind of things.

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I used to love watching most Haunted and thinking, oh

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my god, is this real? And with older siblings, they

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naturally kind of wanted to kind of include me in

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Speaker 3: Well, so I was always part of it, which was

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like children running around. Now I was in the middle floor,

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you stop running around, and they were in bed watching TV,

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listen to music or whatever. So it was very odd

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Speaker 3: The garden was really small.

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it's tiny. The gardens were built on like deckings and

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they're about four foot high and they open at the back,

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but there's like maybe two or three feet of just

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like gravel. I would always hear like kids running and

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like laughing and playing around, and it was very, very

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peculiar because there was no other kids on like a

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row of houses, so I'd never get the opportunity to

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kind of catch them or see them because I always

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wanted to play and you know, oh, who's like near

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the garden in the alleyway And I could.

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Speaker 3: Never seem to kind of catch them.

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Speaker 1: And my sisters used to say things like, oh, we

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heard the kids, and what have you been up to?

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Speaker 3: Where have you been?

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Speaker 1: And I've said, you know, I'm in my room or

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I'm watching TV in the front room or whatever, and

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they kind of heard inklings, and then things started to

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kind of ramp up a little bit and it almost

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felt like the house was cursed, but not cursed in

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a way that people, oh my god, there's a demon

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they're out to get me, and you know, sleep paralysis

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and all that kind of stuff, almost like a demonic

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kind of playful child, but in a way that pushed

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the boundaries. So I do remember one time that the

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utility room the.

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Speaker 3: Washing machine set on fire.

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Speaker 1: So we used to have a washing machine, tumble dryer,

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and I remember that set on fire out of nowhere,

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super random. Again, only happened within weeks after going to

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the dough church, So it almost feels like there was

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this playful entity in the house that would be a

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bit cheeky and try and push the boundaries. One of

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the memories that I have that stands out most is

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when I was out at one of my friend's house.

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Both my sisters would just playing in the living room,

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just relacks him. And the living room is in the

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middle floor because it's one of the kind of the

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three stories. There's a bedroom and kitchen downstairs. The middle

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floor has a front room in my room, and then

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upstairs has the two bedrooms in my mum and my

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sister's room.

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Speaker 3: So they were in the middle floor. I just playing.

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Speaker 1: They saw what they thought was me, like run past

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the doorway down the stairs.

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Speaker 3: Now, they both said, Frank, is that you?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, obviously when they explained the story

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to me, I was like, nope, I was out.

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Speaker 3: And they said, but it.

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Speaker 1: Was you because you had your white tracksuit on so

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used to have this white T shirt with this like

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white three quarter lengths, very in fashion in two thousand

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and three. But it wasn't me. They could have swore

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as me with my height, looked my age and it

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just run straight past the doorway down the stairs, so

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very much in character of kind of what I would do. Literally,

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they said, they called my name, no answer, and then

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they realized that I wasn't actually there when they checked

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one room, So they both got very very scared and

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just booked it to their rooms. So they ran straight

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upstairs and just shut the door and just stayed there.

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Speaker 3: And to my mum came home.

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Speaker 1: At the time, I didn't tie this in, But it

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wasn't until I kind of started thinking about the story

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in more detail and trying to understand it a little

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bit more that I started having these kind of reoccurring.

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Speaker 3: Kind of horror dreams and they went on for years.

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Speaker 1: And it first started very very similar so near where

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I lived. So I lived in a place called Chatham,

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and there's kind of, as said, the Chatting dockyards, and

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there's quite a lot of water around the kind of

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the river medway. And the dreams that I had were

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always kind of me and other children, and they were

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always near the edge of the dock, and there used

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to be a bus station near there, and you could

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kind of take some steps down into the water.

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Speaker 3: There was no gates, there was nothing. It was just

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super open.

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Speaker 1: And I remember those kids down there that were playing

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me is down at the top, and they always looked wet,

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like soaked through, and they always used to say, come

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and play with me, Come and play with us, like

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join in. The more it kind of progressed, so every

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night it felt like something smaller happened.

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Speaker 3: So I would take a like a.

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Speaker 1: Further step, or there'd be another kid there, or I

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would see my feet getting wet in the water.

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Speaker 3: It would continue.

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Speaker 1: Knew really like it almost felt like it progressed as

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a dream, so it felt like they were telling their

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own story, and it was. It was very weird at

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the time, and I never kind of tied it together

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until I started thinking about it. They happened over and

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over and over again, and I didn't really speak to

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my parents about it. My mom felt like she was

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far too busy working and trying to kind of provide

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for the kids and stuff like that, and my sisters

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sort of brushed it off, just said, you know, it's

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just a dream, there's nothing.

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Speaker 3: To worry about.

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Speaker 1: So fast forward to Halloween, one of the most kind

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of spooky times, and you know, we thought it'd be

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a really good idea, especially my sisters. They invited one

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of their friends over and we decided to use the

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Wigi board that my mom got.

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Speaker 3: So my mum got this Wigia board at a car

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boot sale.

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Speaker 1: So in the UK, I know, in the US they

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have yard sales, so if you go to people like

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garages and you look at their stuff. So we have

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something called a car boot, so you go to a

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big field and people.

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Speaker 3: Have stuff they sell pretty much out of their car boot.

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Speaker 1: And I remember my mum grabbing this Ouiji board saying

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that she got it for like a really cheap price.

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It was this lovely slate Wiji board of glass over it,

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and the plan chet was like very very nice. So

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we decided that it'd be a good idea to see

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if we can figure out if there's anything in the

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house after all these kind of spooky things happening. So

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we started with simple questions, you know, nothing crazy as

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you do.

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Speaker 3: You know, is there anything you know? Good? Evil?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Are there any names that you want to say? Are

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there any ages? Now?

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Speaker 1: I remember having my fingers on the plant chet, thinking

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somebody is going to move this because I was quite

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skeptical then I am slightly skeptical now, But when the

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plant chet moved slightly, my heart like sank and I

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would frightened, and it almost took me back to the

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exact time that I saw that prim in the road.

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It felt like it was kind of sort of moving

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around playfully, so it wasn't as.

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Speaker 3: If it was being like violent and vicious.

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Speaker 1: It was just a bit more playful, which kind of

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tied in with what we've been seeing around that house.

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Speaker 3: So we tried asking a few more questions.

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Speaker 1: There was some slight movement, nothing too crazy, and then

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we asked one of the final questions, which was how

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old are you? We didn't hear anything, so the last

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question we asked, was are you younger than ten, hoping

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for a yes or no, and the plant chet literally

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just flew straight across the room, off the board, straight across.

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Speaker 3: All four of us just froze.

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Speaker 1: I think that was enough for us to call it

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a day and realize that maybe we shouldn't be kind

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of messing with this stuff. So my sisters grabbed the

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plant chet, put it back on, and we did the exiting.

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I can't remember the exact kind of part of it,

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but we could close it down properly, and we put

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the blanchet away. You had it in a separate draw,

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wouldn't touch it, and that must have lived in there

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until maybe five years later.

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Speaker 3: We didn't even touch it.

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Speaker 1: So after the Halloween things kind of settled down. There

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were still some noises and some bangs and some odd

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things happening. They eventually stopped. I one hundred percent say

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as a girl, it's a little girl.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I've said it before.

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Speaker 1: I think there is definitely entities that exists, and I

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think there is that kind.

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Speaker 3: Of blurred line.

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Speaker 1: I think if it's an entity or a spirit that

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what was happening in the house. I explained it that

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things happening in the house and a Halloween entity, a

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spirit of some kind. But in that church, it was

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a girl, no doubt about it. We remember things differently

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in the kids that I vividly remember. I remember the rowed,

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the tree, the church, and the girl. They are so

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vivid in my memory. That is what I tell people,

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and their reactions are always of a bit of skepticism.

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But then when I show them Google Maps and I

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show them the church, I think they get it because

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it's an eerie church. It's an eerie place, and it's

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got the gravestones, it's from the fourteen hundreds or however

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old it is. Little girls probably would have died there,

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struggled to pass over, maybe got stuck. And the only

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way they kind of make themselves notified maybe is via

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using lights, because it's not electricity, as candle light.

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Speaker 3: Must have been maybe six.

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Speaker 1: I was seventeen, so I always love to drive, and

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I passed my driving test.

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Speaker 3: One night, I was just driving.

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Speaker 1: Late again and I thought to myself, I'd love to

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go back to Dough Church and see if there's anything

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going to happen, how it might feel. And it felt

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the exact same as the first time that I went.

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You drive up, you take a left to go on

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to this kind of single country lane, pitch black, no

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lights again, the tree super super scary, just just there

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all on its own, split out, And I remember driving

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back up to the church and stopping and waiting and looking,

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hoping that the light might come back on or that

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something else might happen, but nothing did. I kind of

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got to the end, turned around again, super scary turning around,

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and then flew.

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Speaker 3: Back down and kind of went home.

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Speaker 1: And I can't say for certain whether Dough Church brought

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something when we went the first time, whether it brought

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something back with us, but it certainly felt very peculiar

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that nothing really happened, and then all of a sudden

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it started happening. It's only within days of going as

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well that stuff started to happen. It wasn't like we

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had to wait weeks. It was pretty much when they

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would come back. And I can't, you know, for sure,

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say that they are one hundred percent connected, but I've

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always felt like something came with us, something followed us.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it was super super scary in that house

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for a while.

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Speaker 4: So I grew up in a farmhouse outside a really

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small rural town in Ontario, Canada. There wasn't even a

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subdivision like or any new neighbors, who were just surrounded

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by fields cows. It was just a farm house. The

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house was old. Nobody exactly knew what year it was

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built in, but based on the style and how old

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it looked inside, it was probably about late eighteen hundreds.

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My parents rented it from a guy whose mom had

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passed away.

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Speaker 5: We know that she lived most of her life there.

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We're not sure if she passed.

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Speaker 4: Away in the house or not, but we know she

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got like very sick when she was living here. They

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had to like modify the upstairs to like make like

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everything more accessible for her. We know she died either

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very soon after she left the house or in the

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house by the time she had passed away. We moved

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in about two years later, so I was only about

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nine months old. It was a great childhood though it

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was the place that most kids dream about. I had

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acres of land to run on. I built forward to

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explored the forest. My sisters and I spent most of

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the time outside. But with those good memories also came

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just unexplained strange memories.

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Speaker 5: I didn't grow up thinking the house was haunted.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't one dramatic event where everyonhein suddenly believed and

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they were like, yes, this is like haunted. But there

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was just a few instances where it felt a little

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freaky for sure. One of my earliest memories happened when

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I was around eleven. My parents had just started trusting

481
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me to stay home alone, and I was thrilled. My

482
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,240
sisters all played soccer, and every week my parents would

483
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,480
pile everyone into the van and had the games or practices.

484
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 5: I hated going. I didn't care about soccer.

485
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 4: I'd rather stay home and watch tea and people sat

486
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,839
and enjoy a quiet house.

487
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: I liked being home alone.

488
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 4: Until one evening I was sitting in the living room

489
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,279
watching one of my favorite shows. Everything felt normal, But

490
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:19,799
then in the living room connected to the kitchen through

491
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,000
a wide doorway. From where I sat, I could see

492
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,920
part of the kitchen out of the corner of my eye.

493
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:29,119
At some point I noticed what looked like a person

494
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,880
standing in the kitchen. It wasn't like a detailed figure,

495
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:36,240
just a dark shape in the corner of my eye.

496
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:44,359
So I looked over, but there was nothing there. Went back,

497
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,519
kept watching my shows. Then I would look back over

498
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,039
because I kept seeing something in the corner of my eye.

499
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 5: Eventually it got to a point where every time I.

500
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: Would look back towards the TV, it would get closer

501
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:07,200
and closer. I kept looking over, but eventually it was

502
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,960
maybe like two feet four feet from me.

503
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:13,079
Speaker 5: So I just threw my.

504
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 4: Blanket over my head and I stayed that way until

505
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:19,079
my parents came home, because I was so terrified that

506
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,920
if I did look again, that I would actually see

507
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,000
something and it wouldn't just be a dark figure anymore,

508
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:35,200
that it would actually be a person. Another time, me

509
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,319
and my sister we had just gotten home from school.

510
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,799
We decided to play legos in the kitchen, so we

511
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,640
were sitting there. We were home alone, everyone else was

512
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:51,319
either at school or work. From upstairs, we could hear

513
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:57,759
someone walking down the hallway. We had like this cheap

514
00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:03,559
linoleum upstairs, and it's so distinguishable to hear like bare

515
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,519
footsteps on like that cheap millanoleum. Without a doubt, it

516
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:14,119
was someone walking down from the bedroom down to the bathroom,

517
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,720
and we both just kind of listened to her walk

518
00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:24,720
was slow even all the way to the bathroom, and

519
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,920
then we didn't hear anything, and it just got quiet,

520
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,279
and I think after a while one of us said

521
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:35,599
to each other, like did you hear that? We were like, yep,

522
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,160
we just wanted nothing to do with that, and we

523
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,079
just went outside and played. This was also the same

524
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,240
sister that I shared a room with, and I remember

525
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:54,319
the one night I was sleeping in my bed, her

526
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:59,759
bed was across the room. She was passed out. I

527
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,319
was up because I could hear my dad snoring from

528
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,880
like three rooms down, so I was just awake. I

529
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,400
got a little mad, rolled over face the wall and

530
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,680
tried to fall back asleep. I was kind of in

531
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,640
and out of sleep, kind of dozing off and just

532
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,440
listening to my dad's snore kind of echoing through the house,

533
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,400
and then in.

534
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 5: My ear.

535
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:29,119
Speaker 4: Sounded like him snoring, but it didn't. It just sounded wrong.

536
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:35,240
It sounded like someone was mimicking him and imitating him

537
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:40,640
loud and right beside my ear, just one loud snore,

538
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:44,400
and it just sounded wrong, like it was someone mimicking.

539
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:50,680
I rolled over because I thought it was my sister

540
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:53,599
messing with me. I jumped out of bed and she

541
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:56,799
was just across the room, still sleeping like I would

542
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,799
have heard her like run back to her bed.

543
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 5: And jump in, but.

544
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,359
Speaker 4: There was no one around, and my dad was still

545
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,880
snoring in the other room, and it was just one

546
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,880
of those things that you can't really explain. I woke

547
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,240
up in the morning and I told my sister and

548
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:16,880
I'm like, did you hear that last night?

549
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 5: And she was like, no, I had no idea.

550
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,039
Speaker 4: And then obviously it wasn't my parents or anything, and

551
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:23,599
it was kind of just one of those things that

552
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,759
you know, kept it to myself. I was like, I

553
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,160
must have been, you know, dreaming or something, and it

554
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,359
was late at night. Maybe I I was trying to

555
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,799
almost convince myself that, you know, because the alternative is

556
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:38,759
so much creepier.

557
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 5: So I was just like, yeah, no, it was my imagination.

558
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,839
Speaker 4: But like, at the same time, I could even feel

559
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,519
the breath in my I could feel them right there.

560
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:53,680
And I think that's what really freaked me out and

561
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,519
made me jump out and turn around, was because someone

562
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:05,680
was right there. I was waiting inside for the school bus,

563
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:11,119
and Canada has terrible winters, so I always waited inside

564
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,759
for the school bus because it was better.

565
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 5: Than the alternative of waiting outside.

566
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: So I was waiting inside. I was home alone. I

567
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:26,480
could hear someone walking down the stairs slowly. It was

568
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,400
kind of like almost to the point that I'm like,

569
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:30,319
is that someone walking down the stairs because it was

570
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:37,799
just like a so in front of the stairs leading

571
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,400
to the door that I was standing at. There's this

572
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,799
like cheap tongue in groove vinyl flooring.

573
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 5: It's the kind that.

574
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:53,119
Speaker 4: Clicks together when you install it. So the tongue in

575
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:57,039
groove floor, if you slide your foot across it, it

576
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,240
would make this clock sound because it was like kind

577
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,000
of a little poorly installed, not that I didn't want

578
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,680
to insult my dad and the way he installed it.

579
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,279
But after a few years it started to get a

580
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:10,880
little like worn, and it would make this clock sound

581
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:13,240
when you dragged your foot across it. Like no matter

582
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,759
who was walking by, you always made that click sound

583
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:21,720
because it would click back into place. I was waiting

584
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,359
by the door, heard someone coming down the stairs, and

585
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,880
then I just waited. It got quiet for a little bit,

586
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,119
and then I heard the click like someone was walking

587
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:42,319
by dragged their foot across. So I booked it down

588
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,960
the driveway, ran as fast as I could, didn't look back,

589
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,759
got to the.

590
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 5: End of the driveway.

591
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: That's when I finally looked back at the house, and

592
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:53,640
that's when I noticed.

593
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,279
Speaker 5: That you had these big windows in the front. Someone

594
00:32:58,359 --> 00:32:59,000
had moved the.

595
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: Curtain almost to like look at where I was going,

596
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,200
like someone was looking out because they scared me. And

597
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:14,400
then the curtain just went back to normal, like they

598
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,599
looked at me for a second and then walked away.

599
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,519
I mean, there was lots of other things in the

600
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,799
house that there was doors that would slam and.

601
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,359
Speaker 5: Cupboards that would close.

602
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:32,359
Speaker 4: It was, you know, a lot of paranormal activity, but

603
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,200
I never felt like it was malicious, if that makes sense.

604
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,799
For sure, those situations were scary, but I never felt

605
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:48,400
like it was out to hurt me or anything. I

606
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,599
think maybe it was just the old previous owner who

607
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,960
had passed away in the house. I think she still

608
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400
lives there in a way. I think she's just going

609
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,079
on her day by day walking down the hallway. Because

610
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:04,519
you never really felt alone in that house. Ever felt

611
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:08,679
like someone was watching you, or things would move around

612
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,079
and things would close and open, and it was just

613
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:21,679
a little unsettling. Me and my friend Hannah would always

614
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,000
play with Euja boards. This was always at her house, though,

615
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:30,719
but you know, they do say that sometimes like things

616
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,840
can latch onto people. Like I said, I never felt

617
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:38,800
like the spirit was malicious and like it was out

618
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,280
to hurt me.

619
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: But I would obviously tell my friend Hannah about it,

620
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,480
and she was a believer.

621
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: I mean, she would spend nights at my place too,

622
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:50,159
and she would kind of get that feeling too, that.

623
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,079
Speaker 5: Like there was something else there.

624
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,039
Speaker 4: That's probably the only person that I really told about it.

625
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:03,800
My sister, the one that's most similar in age with me,

626
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,320
the one that I would share in the room with.

627
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:09,800
She also experienced a lot of like the same things

628
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,360
as me. Most of the time, it was always us together,

629
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:17,480
so most of my stories. She we still talk about

630
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,639
it to this day and we're like, yeah, that was freaky.

631
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,920
My older sister said she would hear stuff like opening

632
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,320
and closing, but she was always the oldest sister. She

633
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,360
always had to be like the brave one, just reassure

634
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,840
us that everything was okay and that is nothing. But

635
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:42,920
she even heard it too. Again, it was my sister.

636
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,440
She was at the kitchen table. I was taking a shower.

637
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,039
I left the bathroom, went upstairs to my room to change,

638
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,320
came back downstairs, I was sitting in the living room

639
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,920
and the bathroom door slam shut. And that was one

640
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,679
of those old farmhouse doors that like you really had

641
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,079
to like put some effort into closing it, so it's

642
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:12,000
not like it just.

643
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 5: Like slowly shut.

644
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: Like this thing slammed shut completely, like it didn't even

645
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,599
like stop where it usually gets stuck.

646
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,599
Speaker 5: Like it completely slammed.

647
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 4: There was no windows, no one there except me and

648
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,559
my sister, and she was at the table and she

649
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:33,159
called out my name and she was like Max, like

650
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:34,679
are you in the bathroom still?

651
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:38,199
Speaker 5: And I was like no. I remember being so scared.

652
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: I cried on my couch and I just like wanted

653
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,320
my parents to come home so bad. And my sister,

654
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,199
she was only four years older than me, but she

655
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,039
had to be the brave one and go into the bathroom.

656
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,440
But there was no one there.

657
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:59,599
Speaker 5: It was just it was just empty.

658
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,039
Speaker 4: I don't really believe in anything like until I see it,

659
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,559
and I've seen it, so when other people tell me stories,

660
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:14,760
I'm a believer. You don't believe it until it happens

661
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,559
to you, you know. They do say that like children

662
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:24,800
are more susceptible to spirits and energy and all that

663
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,480
paranormal stuff. So I just think it was her. I

664
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,719
think she, like I said, spent her life there and

665
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,480
now she's spending the rest of eternity there.

666
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 5: I think energy never really leaves.

667
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: Frank and Maxine, thank you so much for sharing your

668
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,519
experiences with the rest of us here at the True

669
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:58,079
Scary Story Community. Obviously about Frank's story, the Doe Church

670
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:01,440
really is as eerie as you described it. I remember

671
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,760
looking this up while we were talking. He's like, hey,

672
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,000
you should look it up, just to see what it

673
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,519
looks like. And I did, and this place was I

674
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:11,679
can't really think of anything that matches it, that looks

675
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:13,639
like something I can tell you, Oh, you know, imagine

676
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,159
a medieval castle or imagine this. No, you have to

677
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:19,840
look it up and you're gonna get you're gonna understand

678
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,599
what I mean. Dode Church, d Ode Church. It is insane.

679
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,400
It is really eerie. And I found it even little

680
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,519
stranger that he told me that people actually get married

681
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:36,800
there because they think it's beautiful place, which it is,

682
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,599
you know, it is hauntingly beautiful. So but it dates

683
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,000
back to like the eleventh century. Can you imagine that

684
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,159
this is like after like I think shortly after the

685
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:49,079
Norman conquest. When I looked up the word DoD them,

686
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,920
it turns out it's it's thought to derive from an

687
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,199
old English word meaning dead or place of the dead,

688
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:58,360
a loot. Historians, obviously you're gonna argue about the exact

689
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,760
origin of it, but that place, the value ads are

690
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,519
around there. They say that it was likely occupied a

691
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,360
long time before the church was even built, so there's

692
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,400
like prehistoric Roman activity in that general area. So by

693
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,599
that late medieval period, the local population was going down

694
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:19,440
and the church eventually fell and to like just nobody

695
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,360
was using it, so it was just there for a

696
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,320
long time, and then they fixed it up late twentieth

697
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,280
century and now it's you know, privately owned, used for weddings,

698
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:32,519
stuff like that, private ceremonies. But one really interesting thing

699
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:35,840
here is that it's considered haunted because of these things

700
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,320
also Frank, that you know he talked about, which are

701
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,639
seeing unexplained lights inside of the church, apparitions, things that

702
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,800
are seen through the windows, and the feeling of unease,

703
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,000
which is a very common thing about haunted places. So

704
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:51,199
thank you so much, By the way, I always appreciate

705
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,760
stories that really bring me out of what I'm used

706
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,400
to seeing, like what I'm around where I grew up,

707
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,280
for example, in the southern California area, just rural apartments, traffic,

708
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,599
a lot of cars, apartment buildings, stuff like that. That

709
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,559
was me growing up. So when I hear about other countries,

710
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:12,079
other places, even just another location in the United States,

711
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,400
I'm always amazed by it. I'm like, wow, I can

712
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,440
really imagine what this world was like just from somebody

713
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,880
telling me that firsthand. So thank you so much Trent

714
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,599
for that. And also regarding your Maxine story, this is

715
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:28,760
an important topic here with childhood experiences, how they can

716
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,840
change lifelong beliefs about death, the unknown ghost, all these things.

717
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,800
It doesn't matter, like even if the cause was supernatural,

718
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,000
but these things stick with us. And I want you

719
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to think back the first time you were ever scared,

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the first thing that I ever freaked you out? Was

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it a ghost? Was it an animal? What was it?

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If you remember, Please let me know. Very curious to know,

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because I'm trying to figure out something here that maybe

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as children were not really scared of a lot of

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things except for like these, I guess survival kinds of

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fears that we need in order to not die, you know,

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animals falling the dark.

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of us here that are listening, and

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some of the storytellers that have come on and talked

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to us about stories that they've experienced. They mentioned creepy

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shadow figures and also some things that involve the supernatural.

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So please let me know if you remember the very

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first thing that ever scared you. It could be a movie,

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a book, something like that, anything you remember. And I

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think another topic here was about the consistency of those steps.

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Now they were always happening in that room where supposedly

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the owner that you know, the person that lived up before,

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spent the final days when we pass away, Are we

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doomed to repeat our final actions, our final words? Are

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we doomed to just repeat that over and over and

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over again? And aside from your very first fear, ever,

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I want to know something else. Have you ever heard

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a loved one's voice, somebody calling your name or familiar

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sounds when nobody else was there? And I'm asking because

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multiple times I've been woken up by hearing my name

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in my dad's voice and he's not around, like he's

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not in the same house, we're not living in the

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same place, and I hear him and it's like I

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wake up in that exact tone that he calls me,

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like eh, Wayne, like that, I hear it, and I

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wake up. I look around and I'm like, what, what

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does happen?

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Speaker 5: Is?

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Speaker 2: I clearly hear it? So and by the way, he's

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alive and doing good and everything. But like it's it's

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a thing, you know, because if that can happen with

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people who are still alive, what do we think when

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we hear somebody's voice when they're not alive anymore and

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we hear them Something to think about there anyway. This

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episode of True Scary Story was edited and sound designed

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your story and then we'll record it in a phone call.

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But that's it's pretty simple. It's I promise if you

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have any questions, you can email me. You can email

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our team here just to see if we can help

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you out and encourage you a little bit to share

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your story. But anyway, that's all I got for you

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this week. Thank you very much for listening. Keep it

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scary everyone, See you soon.