WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.320 Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason, this week 2 00:00:04.360 --> 00:00:08.919 covering Foundation season three episode two, Shadows in the Math. 3 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:15.560 Welcome to Spacy Now. 4 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:19.199 I'm BB and I'm Jason, and we are discussing the 5 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:23.079 Apple TV sci fi series Foundation, one episode at a time, 6 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:25.199 and we're going to try to do this weekly as 7 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:28.039 season three is airing, So our episode come out on 8 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:30.640 Tuesdays when the show comes out on Thursdays. 9 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:31.000 Hooray. 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.920 That might vary depending on where you live, and you 11 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.920 might be listening to this on our Foundation podcast, but 12 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:39.200 I invite you to check out our main channel, Spacing 13 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:41.240 Out with Bheb and Jason. We've done a bunch of 14 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:44.039 stuff there. What do we done? Battle Star Galactica, our 15 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:45.159 flag means death. 16 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:50.920 A couple of movies like the Star Trek movies and the. 17 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:55.039 Star Trek Alien. We're working on some Predator stuff that'll 18 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:57.079 come out after this, So hit us up. 19 00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:58.200 I feel like sci fi. 20 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:02.320 In this episode, Dale and Harry advance their plans on 21 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:06.599 Igness Empire, grapples with an unforeseen prediction in Han Piccher 22 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:09.120 and list help to investigate the Mule. 23 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.040 Five check. Did we like the episode overall? 24 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:15.439 All? 25 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:15.799 Right? 26 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.200 How are we feeling episode two pretty good. 27 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:20.879 I'm feeling pretty good. 28 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:24.079 Yeah this I feel like the season has gotten off 29 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:27.760 to a strong start so far, and I think every 30 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:28.959 storyline is interesting. 31 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:34.640 Oh yeah, their show is like unlike, it's like I 32 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:36.879 don't even know how to describe it, which is kind 33 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.280 of problematic considering this is what we do. But it's 34 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:44.760 like piecing together this like image of a larger picture 35 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.920 that's so interesting. It's a tapestry of storytelling that I'm 36 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:52.920 just like, like I want to pull the next string 37 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:56.159 to see what image will unfold next or something. I 38 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:58.840 don't know if that analogy works because you don't want 39 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:01.239 to unravel the Travis Craps three. 40 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:05.040 But you know, yeah, like there's early on in this show, 41 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:07.519 there's a lot of times where like I'm confused, I 42 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:09.680 don't understand what's going on, and it's making me angry. 43 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.319 That's not the case anymore. Like there's stuff that I'm like, 44 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:14.879 I'm not sure where this is going. 45 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:16.080 But I'm coming with you. 46 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.199 Yeah, I'm here for the ride. So with that, let's 47 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:24.000 move into trivia trivia time. 48 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.520 What facts or news could we uncover for Shadows in 49 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:27.919 the Math? 50 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:31.840 This is Foundation Season three, Episode two, Shadows in the Map. 51 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:36.080 It's originally premiered on July eighteenth, twenty twenty five, written 52 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:39.039 by lay Dana Jackson and Caitlyn Parrish and directed by 53 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:43.120 Tim Southend. And Tim Southend is a Canadian television and 54 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.919 film director, so he has lots of Canadian films and 55 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:49.080 documentaries on his resume, as well as some international series 56 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:52.919 such as Bones House, Darryl Dixon, Lost in Space, and 57 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:56.360 Lock and Key. And for the writers, I've talked about 58 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:59.479 lay Dana Jackson before, but Caitlin Parish is a new 59 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:03.120 name for so. She's an American screenwriter and playwright and 60 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.120 appears to be more active in the theater landscape and 61 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:10.280 for television. Has written for Emily Owens, MD, Under the 62 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.960 Dome and Supergirl, and also directed a film adaptation of 63 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.560 her first play, The View from Tall And That's all 64 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:18.520 I have for Trivia. I was trying to dig and 65 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:21.520 see if there's any news coming out really, but not 66 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.759 so much. There's just kind of various people talking about 67 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:25.759 what they think about the show. 68 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:30.400 Yeah, like us, great, we are many in our ranks. 69 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.680 So now we will recap all the other reviewers. 70 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:40.680 Now, deep Space Dive, Let's break down some of our 71 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.960 thoughts on the episode. You can share your thoughts with 72 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.479 us through email or social media. We may use your 73 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.560 comments on an upcoming episode, as we've predicted. 74 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.719 Last time, we got caught up with Gail and Harry 75 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:57.960 traveling through time. Basically they're trying to you know, speed 76 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:02.960 ramp through this hold preparing the Second Foundation, and even 77 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.159 one time, Gale just comes out ands like our religious 78 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:08.439 era is over. Yeah, I didn't know you could just 79 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:09.280 claim that. 80 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:11.879 You would think that that would happen organically. 81 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:14.360 He's like, hey, you know, you guys, you don't have 82 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:15.199 religion anymore. 83 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:17.759 Sorry, I don't think people would take that very well. 84 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.399 But then they realized that they're not. They need to 85 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:24.759 be on the ground more, not in their tanks. 86 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:28.040 Yeah, but it looks like Harry has been spending most 87 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.680 of his time making statues. What. 88 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:35.480 Well. It's weird because like at the end of last season, 89 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.199 it was like the plan, the initial plan was for 90 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:41.120 Gail to get in the tank and come back, you know, 91 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.639 once a year, and Harry was gonna live out his 92 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.199 life mm hmm, and made a big point of like, no, 93 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.519 Harry's coming with her. And now they're like, actually undo that. 94 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:50.879 Yeah, I'm never mind. 95 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:53.319 That's the one part that felt a little messy. 96 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.680 And then what happened to his tank? What did they 97 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:58.920 do with it? Like why would they get rid of it? 98 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:00.120 I have no idea. 99 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.079 That's like, I don't know. I'm kind of like a 100 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:05.120 little bit of a hoarder, and I feel like I 101 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:07.040 would save it. I like, I don't know, maybe I'll 102 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:09.519 need it. What if the first one breaks I need 103 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:10.920 parts for the other one or something. 104 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:13.439 You know, maybe they moved it to a safer spot. 105 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.639 Where is that one? Other one's just like out there 106 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:16.480 in the elements, you know. 107 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:18.920 Yeah, it was raining on one of them when she 108 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.720 came in and that guy who was signing, I'd like 109 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:25.199 that she learned how to sign really quickly, like almost 110 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:28.360 too quickly, Like yeah, I feel like it takes years 111 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:31.560 of study for different language, but galed it in a 112 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:32.279 couple of days. 113 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.759 Yeah, that was there was no barrier for her. Yeah. 114 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:39.600 So yeah, so Harry selling ages And do you think 115 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:41.759 we're gonna see that character again that. 116 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:45.720 Version of we have to Well maybe not that version, 117 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.600 but that actor's locked in. 118 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:51.040 Yeah, well because we have the one from the vault that. 119 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.560 Yeah, I just but I don't know what he's gonna 120 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:59.360 do with that lady. That lady with like intergalactic transport abilities. 121 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:05.040 She's the one who gave him life too, So how 122 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.040 did she get there? How did he like see her again? 123 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:12.680 Have so many questions about their relationship and who she is, and. 124 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.199 I feel like the show is acknowledging that there's still 125 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:17.759 questions there. So it makes me feel like that there's 126 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.759 gonna be some answers for that somewhere along the way. 127 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:24.240 Hopefully, right. It sucks that he just kind of left 128 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:27.600 Gail hanging though. Yeah, she's smart though. I feel like 129 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:31.199 she's gonna they're gonna work on something together. It's crazy 130 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:33.959 that she's talking to Empire. 131 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:37.680 Yeah, so that's that's the reveal at the end. But 132 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:41.600 there's some sort of dialogue there, yeah, And I mean 133 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.319 we can only speculate, like what that dynamic is. 134 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.199 Yeah. I like their spy too. What was his name? 135 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.079 The guy who went to those rich people's house and 136 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:51.800 is like, invite me to your party? 137 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:54.920 Oh, Han Precher, Pretcher? 138 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.800 Why does that sound familiar? Pretcher? I don't know, huh, 139 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.680 But I like that. It's like they're everywhere they're spies 140 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:06.040 or whatever. I like that they don't spend their whole 141 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:09.800 time on the planet learning whatever they're doing over there. 142 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:11.560 Well, he's from. 143 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:12.160 The Second Foundation. 144 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.040 No, yeah, he's from the First Foundation. 145 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:19.120 No, he's from the first second Foundation because he controls 146 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.160 he has mind control powers. Right. I thought he was 147 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:23.319 from the Second Foundation. 148 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:26.639 I don't think so, because he was dealing with the 149 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:30.279 traders and stuff last time. That's all First Foundation stuff. 150 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:31.759 Oh that was him. 151 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:32.680 Yeah. 152 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.319 Oh I thought he was using mind control so that 153 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:39.240 their cameras couldn't work in that room. 154 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.319 No, I think that was technology doing that. 155 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:43.720 Oh that was a very okay. 156 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.439 But yeah, So we have influencers in the world now. 157 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.160 I like it. I like it a lot. I think 158 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:56.759 influencers are a sign that a society is in decline. Yeah. 159 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:02.399 I think it's painting a picture for sure. And the juxtaposition. 160 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:07.079 I like the the way that the guy came in 161 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.120 and he's like, you're too rich to worry about conflict 162 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:11.680 and war. 163 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.560 God, yeah, that was always happening in a couple of 164 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:15.399 streets over. 165 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.959 Right to those other people. That's fucking real, dude. 166 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.120 Yeah. I like how he called that out. 167 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:24.160 Yeah, like, your your wealth protects. 168 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:27.279 You know, they're or the guy is hober Mallow's descended. 169 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:32.399 Yeah, so it's just like, damn, you've fallen far from 170 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:36.000 that tree, not too far. But I think, uh, I 171 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.240 don't think they would like that. Yeah, I don't think 172 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:41.519 Hobo Mellow and uh what was her name, Constance? 173 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:42.799 Yes, Constant. 174 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:45.720 Yeah, I don't think they would like where their bloodline 175 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.679 is going where they don't even want to move their 176 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:50.840 pillows and stuff, or they don't want to move their 177 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.879 chairs over because a war machine is shading their sun 178 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:56.799 or whatever, like how fucked up. 179 00:08:57.159 --> 00:09:00.679 Yeah, but so I think I got confuse are times 180 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:04.200 about like what they're their whole deal like, because that 181 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.120 was like a bit right because they were recording that. 182 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:10.840 They were recording everything like, but yeah, I don't know. 183 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:12.960 They just got in the house then. 184 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:16.600 Because after that guy like agreed to like help them 185 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.080 move their stuff, it was like, oh, I see your recording. 186 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.600 I don't care. Just there. They seem silly, like silly people. 187 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.559 I don't know what their role is going to be. 188 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:29.559 It's going to be interesting to see them in the 189 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.919 same room as the mule. He's so terrifying. 190 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:33.519 Yeah, they're going to a party. 191 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:36.960 Yeah, do you think there'll be another pig there. They 192 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:39.720 had that pig at that table where he walked in. 193 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:43.559 I'm sure there'll be lots and lots of food and decadence. 194 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.559 That was scary though, with uh that demonstration he did 195 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:50.200 with the little girl. Yeah, I didn't get why that 196 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:52.799 lady said three. Was she trying to what was she 197 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:53.360 trying to do? 198 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.519 I don't know. I think she just like broke. 199 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:57.200 Why would she say three? 200 00:09:57.399 --> 00:10:00.240 I mean she said it is kind of like a gasp, she. 201 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.320 Wanted the little girl to die. For a minute, I 202 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:05.039 was like, what the fuck? I don't like her either, 203 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:09.639 but it was interesting that, like she was depicted in 204 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:13.799 that image and with her father in the hall or whatever, 205 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.320 in that space that they were in. So that kind 206 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:19.240 of it paints the picture that she was very valued 207 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:22.320 in the public eye and to her father. 208 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.240 Yeah, and very close with their father. So now she's 209 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:28.559 got full devotion to the mule's kind of demonstrating how 210 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.480 much power he. Yes, yeah, it's very she should you 211 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.840 hate him? Oh yeah no, but she's like more than anything. 212 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:38.960 I'd love to do that. But it's interesting that there 213 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:41.919 are his powers not unlimited, like it takes a lot 214 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:44.679 of efforts. So that's why he's not just taking over 215 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:45.960 everything immediately. 216 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.240 Yeah, I do like that he's not always capable of it, 217 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.039 because that's scarier if he was like all powerful. So 218 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.120 that means that there was probably moments of recovery after 219 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:01.240 he did that whole bit with planes and the people 220 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.080 shooting themselves at each other. I'm very interested to see 221 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.519 how he's going to rule and how. I don't know. 222 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:13.679 It just seems like fear is such a primitive like 223 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:19.320 instinct and emotion that I think it's like, I don't 224 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:23.399 know if that's what I would choose to rule with fear, right, 225 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:27.159 because that if you're afraid, that means you can be 226 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:30.919 afraid of something else more than you're afraid of me. Potentially, 227 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:34.759 so your allegiance to me because you're afraid of me 228 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.320 could falter, and it's very weak because of your fear. 229 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:43.039 I always feel like the military had the right idea 230 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.279 when they were trying to win the hearts and minds, right, 231 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:51.120 I think that's more that's a harder strategy, but I 232 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:56.360 think it's like stronger in terms of like having people 233 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:57.559 be on your side. 234 00:11:57.799 --> 00:11:58.000 Right. 235 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:01.519 People would rather they would lay their lives down if 236 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.320 they love you, whereas they might run away from something 237 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:08.039 if if they fear you. So I don't know. I'm 238 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:10.000 very interested to see how this pens out. 239 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:14.480 But you know, if the fear you falters for any individual, 240 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.919 he can step in and control them basically. 241 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:20.919 Yeah, but at the cost of his like himself in 242 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.840 some ways. So I don't know. I'm just very interested 243 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:28.240 to see. And like in the flashbacks with Gail, he's like, 244 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.279 where is the Second Foundation? Why does he want the 245 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.879 Second Foundation? Like what is There's something there that he 246 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:38.480 wants and it might be the people who have those 247 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:42.480 abilities or something. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like maybe that's 248 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:46.720 why Gail and them and the Second Foundation, we're seeking 249 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.879 out people like that, the people with abilities, because maybe 250 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.000 they could like raise them to not become the mule. 251 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:57.080 I mean maybe, I don't know, that's what I would 252 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.559 try to do. Yeah, I'm just thinking, like, because all 253 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.240 those people were brought there before you know, Gaale got there, 254 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.200 did they continue seeking those people out? Yeah? 255 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:08.080 They said that. She said that when they were panning 256 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:12.120 over the island, that they continued their search and that 257 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:17.559 they had their people Spye and they had like people 258 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:23.759 with eyes everywhere within the Foundation and the Empire and 259 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.559 now I'm just like, was it the mule taking over 260 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:34.440 the planet that broke the timeline or was it Gail 261 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:36.759 talking to Empire? 262 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:37.600 Possibly? 263 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.000 Right, like what is it? What is because it could 264 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:44.320 very well be that her relationship with Empire is what's 265 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:49.000 causing like a fracture in the timeline. So it's very interesting. 266 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:53.519 I'm very interested to see this kind of unfold. And 267 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.200 then old guy with the black hole killer thing. 268 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:01.840 Yeah, so me, the most interesting part of the episode 269 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.919 was all the Empire stuff and so yeah, apparently they've 270 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:08.480 built a death star. But I find the Brother Dusk 271 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.559 it's just interesting that they they're doing something different with 272 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.320 the the Empire characters a season, Like they're not just 273 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:18.200 repeating the same characters. You know, Brother Day is very 274 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:23.440 disillusioned with everything. Basically, Yeah, Brother Dusk doesn't want to 275 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.720 die and is you know fighting, Yeah. 276 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:30.399 He's fighting to live. He's like asking drumasel, come on, girl, 277 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.399 let me be here, and she's like, I am a 278 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.480 clock and your time is a what a cold bitch. 279 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:42.080 But so the old guy's mad at her because he's dying, 280 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:44.679 and then the middle guy's mad at her because she's 281 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.039 a real butt. He's like, you're more hollow on the 282 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.159 inside than I thought, what a I don't know, she's 283 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:54.200 not winning anything, and now little Homeboy is like stabbing 284 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:57.279 her in the back by talking to the Foundation, having 285 00:14:57.320 --> 00:15:02.240 appointments with Gail. Crazy and no wonder he's worried about 286 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:04.879 the mule because Gail warned him about the mule. 287 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.879 Yeah. So, and then the Foundation ambassador is like, Empire 288 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:13.080 always knows so much more than we do. Yeah, she 289 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.679 just finished confirming that the mule took over that planet. 290 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:20.720 He's like, yo, that was the last episode we've moved on. 291 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:24.960 Yeah, he's like in power. Now he's got mental abilities. 292 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:29.360 Did you know that? Oh that poor lady. I feel bad, like, 293 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:31.759 but you know what I feel like, that's how it 294 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:37.440 happens when you're when you have less power, and in 295 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:42.240 any room, you're gonna know less information because knowledge is power. 296 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:46.519 And that's like a really I think that's really interesting 297 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.519 to drive that home every episode that they show her 298 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:54.320 like the Foundation is falling behind on their reconnaissance and 299 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.240 their intel. So I don't know, I feel like we 300 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.440 haven't seen the Foundation in a while too. 301 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:02.919 I mean we saw him last episode, yeah, with all 302 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:06.960 the Traders and other mallow guy on the bikes. 303 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.320 Oh yeah. And then we saw that one guy that 304 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:13.039 infiltrated Harry Selden's obelisk. 305 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.399 Oh yeah, I wish we had more of him. 306 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:16.440 I know, he was great. 307 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:20.000 They're continuing to kind of play on this idea of 308 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:24.519 what happens to Demursel. It's the empires no more, right, 309 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:26.879 and I like that they're talking about like, you know, 310 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:29.559 the road would open up for you, right. 311 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:32.559 They clipped her wings, but she might still be able 312 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:34.639 to fly. Yeah, she's free. 313 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.039 Of them, so I'm like, open that road for her. 314 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:38.200 See where she goes. 315 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:42.840 Yeah, I would be sad to see the empire die though. 316 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:46.360 It's so interesting that idea of like a genetic line. 317 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:50.840 And then brother Day is doing lots of drugs. 318 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:54.480 Yeah, and gambling. He just lost the sugar bowl. I 319 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.000 need to buy a sugar bowl. That just reminded me. 320 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:01.639 That's a really nice too. It comes with a spoon. 321 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:06.559 It looked like and I assumed his little compound was 322 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.720 somewhere in the like the palace grounds, because they don't 323 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:12.480 usually leave there. But the gambling I think would seut 324 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:13.559 in the city somewhere. 325 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:16.440 No, I think it was. I think it was probably 326 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:17.920 like their breakroom. 327 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:19.000 Those are all palace people. 328 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:21.680 Yeah, those are all palace guards and people like that. 329 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.640 They know him. Yeah, they know the palace things too, 330 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.680 like they recognize shit from the palace and they're like, hey, 331 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:31.480 they And they also talked about, like, you know, Dramasol, 332 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:34.000 like they knew her, like, oh did Dramasol? Let you 333 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.759 take that? So I think they know like that. I 334 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.119 think it's like their breakroom, like they have like an 335 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:43.599 area where they chill and because he doesn't care about rules, 336 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:46.160 he just goes in there and gambles with them. Because 337 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:48.400 I feel like if you worked for Empire like that, 338 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.519 you know, with your brain getting wiped every weekend, you'd 339 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:57.240 have to live there. Yeah, like sure the four oh 340 00:17:57.279 --> 00:17:59.880 one K and benefits are great, but I can't remember 341 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.359 last time I was able to like take shit peacefully 342 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.400 or something. I don't know. And it's interesting that they 343 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:10.799 know stuff, but like they're not aware of everything. Maybe 344 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:15.319 I don't know. It's I'm interested about like their depth 345 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:17.960 of knowledge that they carry from day to day because 346 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:21.559 I remember when the Cloud Princess was interrogating them and 347 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:24.920 wiping their brains and shit, like they knew stuff. But 348 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:29.319 I think it seems like mostly it's the courtisans that 349 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:31.799 get brainwiped more often than anything. 350 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:35.319 Yeah, I'm curious about the one that's living with day 351 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:38.880 Song because they keep including here a lot. 352 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:42.440 So I'm like, she thinks and she's involved in very 353 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:48.880 like deep state secret conversations with Day Like he's like, oh, well, 354 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.319 we know the knowledge of the universe, we know how 355 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:54.559 to tell the future kind of shit. Yeah, like she 356 00:18:54.759 --> 00:19:00.119 knows things. And honestly, like I feel like mistresses and 357 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:05.680 and and courtissans and and partners and the people who 358 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:10.160 share a bed with rulers are privy to a lot 359 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:13.759 of like state secrets just as like kind of like 360 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:14.759 a job hazard. 361 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:19.319 Yeah, and brother Dusk last episode made a point to 362 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.279 be like six months is long enough? Need to memory? 363 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:36.680 Why not? Oh sorry, And they included that in the 364 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:39.319 recap for this episode just so this makes me think, 365 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.440 like it's meaningful that, Yeah, he's knowing all this stuff, 366 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:47.720 what's going on days? Carrying that ferret around you? 367 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:50.680 He takes it with him. And then they made a 368 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:54.599 point for when Dusk came to visit that he stared 369 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:57.400 at the ferret again. Yeah, so the ferret's getting a 370 00:19:57.400 --> 00:19:58.119 lot of airtime. 371 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:02.279 I was just watching a l night show where Lee Pace, 372 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:04.599 who plays brother Day, was on it and they were 373 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.319 showing photos of the ferrets. I'm like, oh, I guess 374 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:09.559 this ferret's going to be around for more of the episodes. 375 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:11.759 Yeah, you get a lot of airtime. I'm telling you. 376 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:15.960 I like this is off topic, but I like that 377 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:21.119 marriage is no longer like a thing. Yeah, what is 378 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:25.400 everybody doing? Do you think it's like polyamory or like 379 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:31.440 voluntary celibacy where you take like an a Welcome to 380 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:34.039 the Monkey House where you take a pill and it 381 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.079 just makes you numb from the waist down, or nineteen 382 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:40.640 eighty four like where it's just like nothing's happening. 383 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:42.960 I mean, I don't know about that, but I feel 384 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:46.039 like all options are on the table, Like you can 385 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:50.119 be monogamous or polyamorous or not amorous at all. But 386 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:53.039 I don't know, there's not like a legal status of 387 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:55.759 marriage or have to dig into how the law would 388 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:59.359 work with all their parenting rights and stuff. Yeah, and 389 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:02.599 I'm sure first across the galaxy too, they talk about 390 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:04.119 thousands of worlds. 391 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:08.240 Yeah, but the Pleasure Planet marriage thing, which. 392 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:10.279 I give of course. Yeah, like all marriages are void 393 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:11.200 when you get there. 394 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:15.039 Yeah, it's like that Love Island or that Perfect Match 395 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:17.839 or some reality TV show bullshit. 396 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:23.039 You know, any other thoughts, feelings, proclamations about this episode. 397 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.519 Not necessarily, No, I don't think so. 398 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:29.839 Then it is time to choose who is a standout 399 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:31.920 character in the episode? 400 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:38.119 Astral Queen? Who was the standout character in the episode? 401 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:38.839