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Speaker 1: I got another great show for you lined up. Man,
Speaker 1: this is a new the guy that's into the Appalachian
Speaker 1: cryptid stuff like me. Man, So I thought it was
Speaker 1: a good occasion to break out the moth Man stole
Speaker 1: my EBT card hat. So I hope this is the
Speaker 1: first of many conversations on this program. But I'd like
Speaker 1: to welcome to the show for the first and like
Speaker 1: I said, hopefully first of many. Mister Hardy, the Hardy boy,
Speaker 1: let me bring in here. How are you doing, sir?
Speaker 3: What is up?
Speaker 1: Dog?
Speaker 3: How are you doing? Man? Great to be here with you.
Speaker 1: Awesome brother, Hey man, I'm so excited to have you.
Speaker 1: And like we talked a little bit pre roll, Man,
Speaker 1: you got a shmortgage board of topics to talk about,
Speaker 1: so hopefully we can get into all of them. Man,
Speaker 1: Hopefully this is the first of many, but maybe just
Speaker 1: maybe for somebody that's new to my channel, maybe new
Speaker 1: to you, not be exposed to you, what you do
Speaker 1: and all those great things. Man, just take this opportunity
Speaker 1: to introduce yourself to the listeners, who you are, what
Speaker 1: you do, what you're about, and just give everybody a
Speaker 1: feel brother.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I am author, illustrator David Jay Hardy. That's how
Speaker 3: I introduced myself all over the place. And I have
Speaker 3: written and illustrated to books on Cryptid. So I have
Speaker 3: Appalachian cryptids and creatures. And this puppy has been sounding
Speaker 3: like hotcoogs. It is a beast theery account. I got
Speaker 3: all the drawings, I got all the research, I got
Speaker 3: all the cool stuff in here, and then it did
Speaker 3: so well. Guess what we did a second book, got
Speaker 3: signed to a second book, and I did the Illustrated
Speaker 3: History of Mothman, The Illustrated History of Mothman. And so
Speaker 3: this is a linear retelling, okay, like a linear retelling
Speaker 3: of all the Mothman lore, all the stuff we go
Speaker 3: from pre nineteen sixty six, the whole way through, and
Speaker 3: so I got it all in here. I got all
Speaker 3: of the theories, the thoughts, everything you can want on Mothman.
Speaker 3: So I've done all the research, all the stuff, and
Speaker 3: I like to go around and sell books, sign books,
Speaker 3: and I actually have a t shirt line, Cryptid Empire,
Speaker 3: and I do that as well, and so everything's hand
Speaker 3: drawn by me. You can see I'm wearing a Bigfoot
Speaker 3: T shirt right now and having a good time of that.
Speaker 3: So that's what I do. So I'm an author, illustrator
Speaker 3: and researcher.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's awesome because we ended up connecting through I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think. I think it was Facebook and I've
Speaker 1: been seeing some of your stuff and my audience knows me. Well, man,
Speaker 1: I am a total ADHD baby. I will get something
Speaker 1: on my brain and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 1: and then somebody sends me a text message or something.
Speaker 1: Anything can happen and it totally take me off my game.
Speaker 1: And you are no exception, sir. I've seen you on
Speaker 1: my feed several times and I'm like, this would be
Speaker 1: a good conversation. I need to get h on the show.
Speaker 1: And I just happened to get no distractions this time.
Speaker 1: I happen to stumble across a picture of you holding
Speaker 1: a picture and giving a thumbs up signing a book
Speaker 1: for a girl, and I'm like, I've been meaning to
Speaker 1: reach out to him forever. I'm just gonna finally do it.
Speaker 3: And it worked out. We were able to put it
Speaker 3: together and it was awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, so how long have you been into this?
Speaker 1: You know Cryptid, you know Space. I know you author those,
Speaker 1: but I assume you were swimming in the pool for
Speaker 1: a long time before you decided to give lessons.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, like as a little kid, always loved Cryptis,
Speaker 3: would go to the Manaca Library, which was my local
Speaker 3: library because we grew up in so I grew up
Speaker 3: in near Pittsburgh in Appalachia and grew up poor as dirt, right,
Speaker 3: so the only if you were gonna have any entertainment whatever,
Speaker 3: it had to be free. And so it was always
Speaker 3: going to the libraries. Every single week through the summer.
Speaker 3: My mom would take me to the library, and I'm
Speaker 3: always checking out all the books that I could on
Speaker 3: mythological creatures and all the different stuff. And there was
Speaker 3: one time that I remember getting an Encyclopedia of creatures
Speaker 3: and just pouring through it and was just drawn to
Speaker 3: big Now, back then it was like pretty much big Foot,
Speaker 3: lock Ness Monster. I did not know about Mothman for
Speaker 3: a while. I have some like vague recollections, but I
Speaker 3: never really zeroed in on Mothman till so I became
Speaker 3: an adult, I was into comic books like crazy and
Speaker 3: was doing all sorts of drawings and different things. Found
Speaker 3: out that the best way to get your art out
Speaker 3: there is to put it on a T shirt. I'm
Speaker 3: telling you, for at least for me. And I worked
Speaker 3: in a screenprinting shop, so that might make sense, but
Speaker 3: it was a really good way. And so I started
Speaker 3: selling T shirts at comic cons and I did this
Speaker 3: one bigfoot shirt and it sold, and it sold and
Speaker 3: it sold. It was awesome. And this lady comes up
Speaker 3: to me, she goes, you know what you should do?
Speaker 3: And she goes, you should do Mothman. Now this is
Speaker 3: again fifteen years ago, and I was like, moth what
Speaker 3: moth Rah Like? I looked it up. I had no
Speaker 3: idea pretty.
Speaker 1: Much, and all of the differencera I know, seriously, and so.
Speaker 3: I looked him up and I see him. I go,
Speaker 3: you know what, I could do a really sick drawing
Speaker 3: in that creature. So I do I do this one
Speaker 3: T shirt. Still didn't really know what I was talking
Speaker 3: about with moth Man. And here's what happened. Danny Treo,
Speaker 3: Uncle Machete himself, came up to me at a comic
Speaker 3: con and bought the shirt, and he was super cool.
Speaker 3: He like he bought that shirt and a chup of
Speaker 3: Cobba shirt like other shirts, and he leaned in he
Speaker 3: told me, he said, Danvin, you have decoys T shirts. Ever, man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put that on my tombstone. Like that was
Speaker 3: a big deal. That was awesome. And so that video
Speaker 3: or that picture, when I posted it went mini viral
Speaker 3: and it blew up and people started reaching out. So
Speaker 3: the Mothman Museum, which I did not even know existed,
Speaker 3: reached out to me and they said, hey, we'd like
Speaker 3: to sell your shirts, and I said, great, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: So they bought twenty five. They sold out, They bought
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty, they sold out, they bought fifteen hundred,
Speaker 3: and they sold out. And they keep selling and selling
Speaker 3: and selling, and so I was like, there is definitely
Speaker 3: something to this. This thing is really moving and shaking.
Speaker 3: And then the so Jeff Walmsley, the guy who runs
Speaker 3: the museum, said have you ever considered writing a book?
Speaker 3: And I said I have, and then he hooked me
Speaker 3: up with his publisher and Courier Press. So I got
Speaker 3: a legit publisher and we took off you know, I
Speaker 3: wrote the first book, wrote and illustrated it. It was great,
Speaker 3: and we're like, we're approaching six thousand copies, you know,
Speaker 3: and then the second one going incredibly well, so we're
Speaker 3: shipping all over the country. It's been fantastic, tons and
Speaker 3: tons of research, like so much. So you know, we
Speaker 3: all know how you just get into one thing and
Speaker 3: you go into rabbit trails and rabbit trails, rabbit trails,
Speaker 3: try to bring it all in. But I feel like
Speaker 3: at this point now I've read almost everything that I
Speaker 3: can on specifically moth Man, but most scripteds. I am
Speaker 3: a I call myself a crypto mythologist, So I'm into
Speaker 3: the stories. I'm not gonna sit here and argue about
Speaker 3: Bigfoot's metatarsal hinge right like we can. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I'm not into that. I'm into the stories, the lore,
Speaker 3: and the legend. So that's what That's how I got
Speaker 3: into all of this.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, And what an awesome story too. You know,
Speaker 1: who doesn't. I mean, there are plenty of losers out there,
Speaker 1: but I mean I'm not talking to the losers. Who
Speaker 1: doesn't enjoy a good story, man? And that's a great story.
Speaker 1: And that's something I try my best to emulate with
Speaker 1: me is I try to be a story story teller
Speaker 1: because I've always loved storytellers. It's like, yeah, you can
Speaker 1: take somebody and you know, take a fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: minute news clip or whatever and just regurgitate the information
Speaker 1: in twenty or thirty minutes and be done with it.
Speaker 1: Or you could tell a very beautiful, well crafted story
Speaker 1: and keep people entertained for an hour to get to
Speaker 1: that punchline.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So I talk slow anyway, so why not take advantage
Speaker 1: of the storyteller.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's cool, I talk fast, so we'll balance each
Speaker 3: other out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, Well, I wanted to hit you with this because
Speaker 1: a shout out of the chat. The chat's been growing.
Speaker 1: I've just started doing the lives and stuff maybe the
Speaker 1: past month or so and starting to build the live
Speaker 1: chat audience. But I had Rebecca and she's i'll throw
Speaker 1: up her comment here because we've seen it before the show,
Speaker 1: and I addressed it, but I'll throw it up now.
Speaker 1: But she said, I'd like to hear his take, if
Speaker 1: any on the encounters of the Braxi and the Snellygaster,
Speaker 1: if there's any stories about him or if he's just
Speaker 1: reporting on the lore. And also she asked later, she said,
Speaker 1: if someone wants a signed copy, is that possible or
Speaker 1: can you only order it from Amazon?
Speaker 3: No, oh, don't order it from Amazon. Order it from
Speaker 3: me cryptidempire dot com, cryptidempire dot com, and I will,
Speaker 3: like you place that order, I will sign that puppy.
Speaker 3: I will throw it in the mail today. Okay. So yeah,
Speaker 3: and they're they're really great copies that I send out anyhow,
Speaker 3: The Flatwoods Monster Braxie quite a bit on Braxibraxi has
Speaker 3: become very very popular as of late. But yeah, I've
Speaker 3: got quite a bit of stories on Braxi. There's so
Speaker 3: much happening. So we have the original initial encounter in
Speaker 3: the nineteen fifties when you had so it's like nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty two, and we have the the fall from potentially heaven.
Speaker 3: We don't know where it comes from, but we have
Speaker 3: the saucer that falls down, and then we have the parent,
Speaker 3: the mother, the guardsman, the US military, and then the kids.
Speaker 3: They all go up to the hill. So we know
Speaker 3: this story. They go up the hill in West Virginia
Speaker 3: in Sutton County, Bractice or I'm sorry, in Sutton, Braxton County,
Speaker 3: West Virginia, to go see what this thing was. And
Speaker 3: it's this giant, potentially robotic creature with this red hood
Speaker 3: over it, incredibly bad smell, all of these different things,
Speaker 3: light shining, everything going nuts, and they take off. They
Speaker 3: had a dog with them too, and they get out
Speaker 3: of there. They get out of there as fast as
Speaker 3: humanly possible. And the crazy thing is the dog died
Speaker 3: just like a few weeks later. The dog died out
Speaker 3: of nowhere. Dog was incredibly healthy. The dog died. There
Speaker 3: was all sorts of like later in life, like weird
Speaker 3: cancer stuff for the for the you know, the people
Speaker 3: who had seen Braxie. And then we started finding out
Speaker 3: that there were encounters prior to and after with very
Speaker 3: similar creatures that now sometimes they had different variations. There
Speaker 3: was one time that had a lizard face or a
Speaker 3: very defined lizard face because they couldn't see it was
Speaker 3: like this hood, this hood with this circle and then
Speaker 3: a weird dress and all of the different things. And
Speaker 3: so there's so many theories on what was happening, what
Speaker 3: was what was going on in West Virginia at that
Speaker 3: time in the nineteen fifties, and then going into the sixties.
Speaker 3: There's all these different encounters, and you have the Grafton Monster.
Speaker 3: I was just at the Grafton Monster event in Grafton,
Speaker 3: West Virginia last weekend and they're celebrating sixty I think
Speaker 3: it's like sixty two years of the graft and Monster.
Speaker 3: Very similar sighting in a similar area. Is there a connection?
Speaker 3: Were these things all somewhat tied together? And could they
Speaker 3: even be tied together to moth Man in that space?
Speaker 3: You know? Was this was this a government issue? Was
Speaker 3: this some type of testing? Was this a full on
Speaker 3: alien invasion that was forwarded or not? We don't know.
Speaker 3: But Braxy is very popular and there's a lot of
Speaker 3: different theories on who she is. So yeah, a lot
Speaker 3: of people say, well, I don't know that we're gendering
Speaker 3: her correctly, but a lot of people say Braxi is
Speaker 3: a she. We'll see. But you know, if ever we
Speaker 3: find definitive proof of Braxy, uh, maybe she's wearing a
Speaker 3: dress and they say, I think it's the dress that
Speaker 3: that's the one that leads you to, hey, is this
Speaker 3: a female? You know?
Speaker 1: So there rendition of this monster.
Speaker 3: I have a rendition right here.
Speaker 1: We'll go to the side a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we go there, ware we go.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I've seen that the little spade looking hands
Speaker 1: if I've always wondered what that was.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. Well, and they don't know, they have no
Speaker 3: idea what the spade is, but it's that that spades
Speaker 3: the uh I'm like backwards here, but that's another one.
Speaker 3: But and then I have even I can give you
Speaker 3: a third one because I got it in my new
Speaker 3: moth Man book.
Speaker 1: Here Arabica said, I'm not going under that uh dress
Speaker 1: to check all right, Well.
Speaker 3: Well don't worry. Doc Brand will check her out. Tell us, hey,
Speaker 3: what gender were looking at? But anyhow, so he's a
Speaker 3: she she Yeah, we don't know, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: we have no idea. U braxy braxi may not be
Speaker 3: you know, within our sphere of understanding. So that's that's
Speaker 3: our that's something practice stuff. But there have been sightings
Speaker 3: even relatively recently, the big but the big one being
Speaker 3: in the nineteen fifties. So there is something going on
Speaker 3: in Appalachis, specifically West Virginia. And I'm spending tons and
Speaker 3: tons of time in West Virginia, like literally every single
Speaker 3: weekend that in June. I have been or will be
Speaker 3: in West Virginia. So I'm signing books at West Virginia
Speaker 3: Day and Beckley this weekend and next weekend I will
Speaker 3: be at UFO Days in Buchanan. So I'm all over
Speaker 3: West Virginia. And I will tell you this, The lore
Speaker 3: is pervasive, is so much and then you talk to people.
Speaker 3: That's the crazy thing. It's like you talk. Every time
Speaker 3: I go to something, I've got four or five different
Speaker 3: people who are giving me their encounters, their stories, or
Speaker 3: their grandmothers and all these different things. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: this place is just teeming with stories of the supernatural.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And that's something to means some of my buddies have
Speaker 1: dovein talked about because it's like, you know Appalachia, that
Speaker 1: that's an ancient mountain, you know what I mean? And uh,
Speaker 1: all of the Native American lord.
Speaker 3: Yeah, potentially, I mean, depending on how you date them
Speaker 3: and your theory on where they come from. Uh, they
Speaker 3: could be the oldest mountains in the world.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: It s because all the highest strangeness you know, which
Speaker 1: now that I got you on here because I've seen
Speaker 1: that you wrote on many cryptids, but like your latest
Speaker 1: release is more focused on the Mothman. Them off Man,
Speaker 1: don't throw stones at me. I'm new to the cryptid space,
Speaker 1: you know. That's like, I never what you would call
Speaker 1: a bigfoot enthusiast. It wasn't until I stumbled upon Esau
Speaker 1: sounding like a Bigfoot that I kind of even got
Speaker 1: into bigfoot a little bit. So I want, because I've
Speaker 1: never sit down and listened to a podcast, I want
Speaker 1: to hear the story of Mothman. I just know the
Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view. I just know it's some winged
Speaker 1: creature that that showed up one night and chased a
Speaker 1: family or something, then landed on a bridge and the
Speaker 1: bridge collapsed or something like that. I just have like
Speaker 1: a thirty thousand But that's not what happened. That's not okay.
Speaker 3: But that's good, very bad. I love it. I love
Speaker 3: telling this story. So this is good. This is Listen.
Speaker 3: Don't worry. I don't have that Pharisee spirit. I'm not
Speaker 3: throwing anyway. I'm not looking. I'm not looking to judge. Listen.
Speaker 3: That's why I wrote the book. Wait wait, wait, here's
Speaker 3: that's why I wrote the book. The back of the book,
Speaker 3: do you know what Mothman really is. I give the
Speaker 3: whole thing so because so many people Mothman is stupid
Speaker 3: popular right now, like ridiculously, you're something crazy.
Speaker 1: Before you started, though, I didn't know nothing about this.
Speaker 1: I was just getting it into podcas casting and I
Speaker 1: worked with this guy named Chris, and Chris uh, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think. I can't remember his last name.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: If it was the family name, it might have been.
Speaker 1: But now I started getting into this space and then
Speaker 1: we got to talk about monsters or something. He's like, hell,
Speaker 1: he said, if you want to talk moth Man, uh,
Speaker 1: talk to me and my family. We're the original people.
Speaker 1: And I said do what and he said, yeah, look
Speaker 1: up the story that such and such, the the whatever,
Speaker 1: the family Chris last name, that's the thing I can't
Speaker 1: remember because it Scarborough. Yes, Scarberry, he's Starbury.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he said that that story of the family getting
Speaker 1: chasing the man shooting at the tree or something. I
Speaker 1: think he told me he said that was my grandpa.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to bring you on
Speaker 1: the show, and he kept chicking it out. He was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't do podcasts. I don't do well.
Speaker 3: Tell him to talk to me. He doesn't have to
Speaker 3: on a podcast, but I would love to talk to
Speaker 3: them about it. But yeah, that the Scarberriers are the Mallets. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, so if here was a Scarberry and that's
Speaker 3: his grandpa, then you know that's he's one of the
Speaker 3: original four. I mean, there were so many at the
Speaker 3: od Okay, let me give you the whole thing. Let
Speaker 3: me give you the whole thing. I mean, I'll have
Speaker 3: to give a little bit of a thirty thousand foot
Speaker 3: of view. So there were there were sightings prior to
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty six. Okay, so these sightings do go back,
Speaker 3: but they are isolated, and the main flap happened in
Speaker 3: November of nineteen sixty six. That the first things that
Speaker 3: happened were and it's all over West Virginia. It's not
Speaker 3: just in So. It's a place called Point Pleasant, this
Speaker 3: tiny little town between these rivers. There was a river town.
Speaker 3: It's near Galla Police, Ohio. So if you're wondering where
Speaker 3: Point Pleasant is, it's somewhat close to Columbus. Columbus is
Speaker 3: the is the next big like Ohio town. And then
Speaker 3: you know there's all the West Virginia stuff. So there
Speaker 3: were these different sightings of things that in Point Pleasant
Speaker 3: you saw the first one. So the very very first
Speaker 3: one happened at a military in essence bunker up in
Speaker 3: the TNT area. This is an area in which they
Speaker 3: had a bunch of explosives and different things from World
Speaker 3: War Two. So they had ammunition area during World War two,
Speaker 3: so that if we were ever invaded, they were hidden
Speaker 3: in these this forested area that you couldn't get to
Speaker 3: or couldn't see from overhead, and they were in these
Speaker 3: like igloos, these cement igloos that were supposed to protect
Speaker 3: them if they exploded, that it wouldn't help you blow
Speaker 3: everything up. But this area has major issues because you know,
Speaker 3: this happens in sixty six. World War Two is over
Speaker 3: in forty five, so you have twenty years of it
Speaker 3: just sitting there and like stuff's leaking out, things that exploded.
Speaker 3: It's very toxic. It's gross up there, and it's outside
Speaker 3: of town. So one night, this this military guy, he's
Speaker 3: on patrol in that space and he sees a giant bird. Okay,
Speaker 3: like this giant man bird creature thing couldn't explain it,
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh my goodness, what and like and
Speaker 3: he reports it to his officers, says he wants nothing
Speaker 3: to do with it. So you have that. Then right
Speaker 3: after that you have a group of guys. Now this
Speaker 3: is really weird. They were digging a grave because that's
Speaker 3: what you did in the sixties for the guy's farther
Speaker 3: in law. There were four men, so instead of paying
Speaker 3: somebody with a bacco, they were doing it themselves, digging
Speaker 3: a grave. And over their head flew a giant man bird.
Speaker 1: And so I do it in the South Man people
Speaker 1: just don't understand. It's like, man, we don't have that
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars to pay at a ball. We'll just go.
Speaker 3: Get your friends together in front of the guy in
Speaker 3: the ditch, right, you know. So that's it, and then
Speaker 3: so like then after that, some really weird stuff starts happening.
Speaker 3: There's a guy named Meryl Partridge and he had a dog,
Speaker 3: Bandit Rip Bandit. One night, these red lights show up
Speaker 3: in his backyard and they're flying around and his dog
Speaker 3: runs out after the lights, and you know, Merrill's TV exploded,
Speaker 3: which is really really weird, and then he goes so
Speaker 3: it's like real paranormal stuff and the dog barking, bark
Speaker 3: and barking. Then all of a sudden just disappears like
Speaker 3: there's big huge German shepherd just gone. And the weird
Speaker 3: thing is Meryl doesn't even go to investigate. He's too
Speaker 3: like scared to get off the porch. So like it's
Speaker 3: just these weird things. And then in sixty so November
Speaker 3: of nineteen sixty six, these four kids were driving in
Speaker 3: a car. So they were married, there were two couples,
Speaker 3: but they were also teenagers, so back then you could
Speaker 3: get married really young, so like they were like seventeen
Speaker 3: and eighteen whatever, and the Scarberries and mallets, and they
Speaker 3: were driving around the TNT area because and I've been
Speaker 3: out there, there's there. It's great straightaway driving. There's you know,
Speaker 3: probably no cops and it is straightaway so you can
Speaker 3: just fly, you can have fun. And they were in
Speaker 3: a fifty seven Chevy and it was it was Roger
Speaker 3: Scarberry fifty seven Chevy. They're just cruiser around at night,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden they see these two
Speaker 3: huge red eyes and so these red eyes are peering
Speaker 3: back of them, and then suddenly this huge bird like
Speaker 3: creature comes from It was this abandoned power plant that
Speaker 3: they were in and it comes after them, swooping down
Speaker 3: and it seemingly is going to a attack the car,
Speaker 3: so everybody's freaking out. It flies sometimes at beside the car,
Speaker 3: sometimes on top of the car. There's different iterations. People
Speaker 3: say that it scratched the car and different things. But
Speaker 3: they're freaking out. And Roger is doing one hundred miles
Speaker 3: an hour like he is flying as fast as he
Speaker 3: possibly can, and the things keeping up. It has no problem.
Speaker 3: It's making these weird squeaking sounds and it's above them,
Speaker 3: and then it takes off like and they like it disappears,
Speaker 3: so the kids freak out. Nancy went back another time,
Speaker 3: and now get this one. This is bonkers. They went
Speaker 3: back to make sure that they weren't losing their minds
Speaker 3: or whatever, and they saw a dead dog, potentially a
Speaker 3: German shepherd. They think it might have been a German
Speaker 3: shepherd on the road, which some people say may have
Speaker 3: been banned it. Now this is gonna be crazy. Where
Speaker 3: Bandit lived and I think it was Salem, which was
Speaker 3: ninety miles away, but the dates line up that Mothman
Speaker 3: could have killed Bandit and brought him up there, or
Speaker 3: it's a different dog. We don't know. I always say,
Speaker 3: mothman never heard any humans. The dogs seems like it
Speaker 3: seems like he ate a lot of dogs.
Speaker 1: I got a sound clip for that one.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, that's great. Perfect. So these kids, what happens
Speaker 3: is they go to the police, and nobody knows why,
Speaker 3: but the police, I don't know where. They say, we're
Speaker 3: gonna have a press conference. So they had this big
Speaker 3: press conference the next day, and it blows up like
Speaker 3: it goes. I mean, they were running this story in
Speaker 3: Tokyo newspapers. You know what I mean. You know, it
Speaker 3: goes overseas and goes everywhere, and it blows up. And
Speaker 3: this guy, so it was a bird. The funny part
Speaker 3: is is Mothman's always been a giant bird, but this
Speaker 3: we don't know who named it, but this guy named
Speaker 3: it the mothman. So it was like a reporter or
Speaker 3: a copy editor or whatever he names it the moth man,
Speaker 3: and it stuck, you know. So they didn't they didn't
Speaker 3: go with batman. They didn't. Now, they called it back
Speaker 3: then they called it the bird, the bird, the bird,
Speaker 3: but that guy said moth word.
Speaker 1: M hm, Well, I'm sure the rapper bird man was happy.
Speaker 1: They didn't you know copy r out his later namely.
Speaker 3: Totally would have derailed his entire you know, his entire
Speaker 3: career would have been shot.
Speaker 1: He would have been the moth Man the rapper right
Speaker 1: right exactly.
Speaker 3: And so then after that, like it like people make
Speaker 3: this big, huge monster hunt. People are looking for this
Speaker 3: thing and everybody is seeing it. So there were something
Speaker 3: like one hundred and sixty two confirmed moth Man sightings
Speaker 3: during this time. When I say confirmed, they took it
Speaker 3: to the police. So they went and they and they
Speaker 3: filed a report right now, an official report, and then
Speaker 3: they're seeing it again. And I mean, like, and if
Speaker 3: you get into this, and I got into it, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: There's so many just like this person saw it, this
Speaker 3: person saw it, and this person in the morning that evening,
Speaker 3: and all these different people. They're seeing these things time
Speaker 3: and time again, and everybody's like nobody's dying, nobody's whatever.
Speaker 3: But it's getting really, really really crazy. And it follows.
Speaker 3: The other thing is Mothman follows this this family or
Speaker 3: these two families, so the Mallets and the Scarberrys like
Speaker 3: had multiple times when Mothman visits them yet again, and
Speaker 3: they're seeing them out the window and they're seeing them
Speaker 3: all these different spaces. Now it gets really freaky after that,
Speaker 3: like incredibly freaky, because the Men in Black show up.
Speaker 3: Now I'm not talking Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, but the Men
Speaker 3: in Black are based in this time frame and they're
Speaker 3: made popular by this Mothman encounter. Without Mofman, you don't
Speaker 3: have the movie Men in Black in the series and
Speaker 3: all of that. These guys and they show up and
Speaker 3: they're creepy. Okay, there's many theories on what the moth
Speaker 3: the Men in Black are, but they start, they start
Speaker 3: interrogating people, threatening people, all of this different stuff, and
Speaker 3: then the UFO start and it's bonkers. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 3: it starts with Mothman and then it goes into high
Speaker 3: strangers strangeness like you wouldn't believe. They also have big
Speaker 3: Harry Hollmonid sasquatch like creatures that are showing up and
Speaker 3: terrorizing people. So you have sasquatch like peepers, people's, you
Speaker 3: have creatures, you have these This is hard to explain.
Speaker 3: They call it space wolf prints, where there are these
Speaker 3: massive wolf prints in the ground in spaces that don't
Speaker 3: make sense for the natural gait and stride of a wolf,
Speaker 3: and they're deep within as if the wolf was three
Speaker 3: to four hundred pounds, So these, I mean wolves don't
Speaker 3: get that big in these different spaces. So this guy
Speaker 3: named John Keel, he's the one who comes in and
Speaker 3: he does the research. He is a paranormal researcher from
Speaker 3: New York and he does he's the one who wrote
Speaker 3: the book The mom Man Prophecies. But he investigates and
Speaker 3: he gets into it and it's just all of this crazy,
Speaker 3: ridiculous stuff that happens is going that's going on for
Speaker 3: about a year, right, So in nineteen sixty seven, at
Speaker 3: the end of this story, he had these statements that
Speaker 3: were made to him. The different characters, men in black
Speaker 3: ish like characters are telling him that something really bad
Speaker 3: is gonna happen, but it's very deceptive. They don't give
Speaker 3: him all the pieces, all the different stuff, but they
Speaker 3: say something bad is going to happen on the river.
Speaker 3: Something bad's going to happen on the river. And then
Speaker 3: on December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven, we had the worst
Speaker 3: bridge collapse in US history. So the Silver Bridge which
Speaker 3: was an incredibly important bridge in that area, had holiday
Speaker 3: shopping traffic on it. It was like late at night
Speaker 3: and everybody's on this bridge, and out of nowhere, an
Speaker 3: ibeam breaks and like the whole thing, just like this massive,
Speaker 3: huge construct snaps, crackles and breaks, dumping all these cars,
Speaker 3: all these people into the frigid river waters and forty
Speaker 3: six people. It was very terrible. It was deeply tragic.
Speaker 3: The entire area was just immersed in this tragedy. I mean,
Speaker 3: in a small town, forty six people die, you either
Speaker 3: related to somebody or you knew somebody died. Everybody was connected.
Speaker 3: And the crazy part was the sightings and all these
Speaker 3: different things they didn't stop, but just nobody cared after that.
Speaker 3: They were so traumatized, broken and they were just trying
Speaker 3: to get on with life. But they were like, this
Speaker 3: is it's just crazy. And so for the most part,
Speaker 3: like they like to take the narratives, they it was
Speaker 3: thirteen months of terror and then it just ended with
Speaker 3: the bridge collapse. And then people say it was moth Man.
Speaker 3: But then you talk to everybody else in the town,
Speaker 3: they're like, no, it's just a bad eye being right,
Speaker 3: Like it was just as bad like bad, poor maintenance
Speaker 3: and all these different things. But regardless, it's tied together
Speaker 3: that forty six people died in this situation. And so
Speaker 3: now there have been sightings of moth Men after that,
Speaker 3: not as many, but there have been sightings. But that
Speaker 3: is functionally the story of Mothman. Mmmm yep.
Speaker 1: And that's crazy, Like I can't remember who I was
Speaker 1: talking to, but we had talked about this, and we
Speaker 1: had mentioned just Mothman briefly about the that book. You
Speaker 1: know how he's basically a nostradamus. He you know, gives
Speaker 1: prophecies or warnings and things.
Speaker 3: Well he doesn't, but it's never Mothman. Mothman doesn't talk.
Speaker 3: It's other characters in this that are potentially supernatural, like
Speaker 3: John Keel doesn't know. There's a there's a man named
Speaker 3: mister Apel and we do not know what he is. Okay,
Speaker 3: he is a type of supernatural character. He knows way
Speaker 3: too much, and then he's very deceptive too. So Monthman.
Speaker 3: What happens is Mothman shows up and then other characters,
Speaker 3: other entities are making these claims and statements, and John
Speaker 3: Kill's getting these random phone calls and stuff. But it's
Speaker 3: not Actually, mav Men never.
Speaker 1: Talks okay, because I was talking with the doctor jud Burton.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Doc, he's the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a year and a half ago. Maybe it's it's
Speaker 1: been a while, but he actually had just reached out
Speaker 1: to me through a DM on Facebook and was like, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: we should do a show on uh Davy Crockett and
Speaker 1: uh Daniel Boone. He said they're both from your area.
Speaker 1: He said they both had big foot experiences.
Speaker 2: I was like, huh.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, dude, let's talk about it. And I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah, because I've not heard about it. He's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well don't read on it either. He said, I want
Speaker 1: to be fresh. I want to blow your mind and
Speaker 1: see your face and hear what you have to say
Speaker 1: as you find out. And so we got together and
Speaker 1: he laid out that story for me, like I can't
Speaker 1: remember you know, the names, but one of them I
Speaker 1: think it might have been. Boone was up in Kentucky
Speaker 1: hunting with his son and witnessed a bigfoot and that
Speaker 1: it attacked him. He had had to shoot the thing
Speaker 1: to save his son, but it got away they couldn't
Speaker 1: track it. And then Crockett, when he went to Texas
Speaker 1: to fight at the Alamo for the you know, the
Speaker 1: freedom of Texas. His last letter home, he wrote he
Speaker 1: said that he's seen a man in the woods, you know,
Speaker 1: like seven foot tall, covered in hair, and that it
Speaker 1: told him to turn around and go back to Tennessee,
Speaker 1: that nothing but death awaited him in Texas and that
Speaker 1: he just miraculously disappeared. And he said that he either
Speaker 1: had an encounter with a ghost or maybe he ate
Speaker 1: some bad meat or something like that. He said, he
Speaker 1: maybe ate something bad, you know, at the camp or whatever.
Speaker 1: But once again, like you know the people say about
Speaker 1: the moth Man, you have another you know, supernatural experience
Speaker 1: and then closely after some kind of you know, tragedy
Speaker 1: like it's except in this instance, it actually did physically
Speaker 1: warn Crockett to turn around and go back to Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Wow, do you have that episode online? Yeah, I'll check
Speaker 3: it out. Yeah. Yeah, there's some dude, there's some Daniel
Speaker 3: Boone Davey Krogson that will blow your mind. So Daniel
Speaker 3: Boone also is tied to those are color and potentially
Speaker 3: took a shot at that. So Daniel Boone, I mean again,
Speaker 3: you know these iterations the big one's Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy
Speaker 3: Teddy Roosevelt, Well, I mean absolutely believed in Bigfoot, believed
Speaker 3: this friend was eaton, was killed by Bigfoot, and uh
Speaker 3: dnsally sought to kill bigot like he.
Speaker 1: Was stained upon that. I've never heard that.
Speaker 3: M h it was in I mean, there was one
Speaker 3: of his letters. He I mean, it's very accessible, he said,
Speaker 3: and he calls it a goblin. I don't know, it
Speaker 3: sounds like that's a pejorita. It's not like what we think,
Speaker 3: like the green goblin from Spider Man, or it's a
Speaker 3: pejorative term. But one of his friends on a hunting
Speaker 3: trip was killed by in essence a Harry wild Man,
Speaker 3: and he was very angry about it and wanted to
Speaker 3: and wanted to go back and track this thing up.
Speaker 3: It's funny, like I do wonder if Teddy Roosevelt would
Speaker 3: not have become the President of the United States and
Speaker 3: had so many responsibilities, if he just would have spent
Speaker 3: his remaining days being a cryptid hunter. Because there's also
Speaker 3: tie in with the Snally Gaster and Teddy Roosevelt. He
Speaker 3: wanted to go after the snally Gaster. He allegedly took
Speaker 3: time off from a he was going to go to
Speaker 3: Africa to hunt, and he wanted to take time off
Speaker 3: to go hunt the snelly Gaster in Maryland. So he
Speaker 3: point blank believe in these creatures.
Speaker 1: That's so cool, man, because you do. You hear all
Speaker 1: these you know, stories, and a lot of people just
Speaker 1: you know, laugh or you know, dismiss them, or they say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's only for the kooks. But then you find out
Speaker 1: some of these really major, you know, historical figures had
Speaker 1: experiences and encounters that themselves.
Speaker 3: I mean, Abraham Lincoln will reference the giants in his
Speaker 3: speech in Niagara Falls, like he point blank says, as
Speaker 3: those great giants blah blah blah. You know, he was
Speaker 3: talking about the giants, your giants, Doc Brown, the ones
Speaker 3: you've been researching. Abraham Lincoln talked about it. So, I
Speaker 3: mean it's out there.
Speaker 1: Mmmm. Which me trying to look here because I kind
Speaker 1: of glance at the chat and involve them when they
Speaker 1: get in here. Somebody had said something and somebody had responded,
Speaker 1: that's a great theory. I want to see that theory. Uh.
Speaker 1: Somebody said, I've been saying for years the Nethlin were
Speaker 1: living in the Appalachian Mountains, Luciferian Colt tied to the CIE.
Speaker 1: I think they're talking about the the Men in Black
Speaker 1: that you were talking about earlier.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're they're evil, they're evil, evil, evil. And then
Speaker 3: the crazy part is is they make this movie where
Speaker 3: they're the heroes and they're like super accessible and funny
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah, and it seems like everything the
Speaker 3: Men in Black do is bad and vicious and inhuman.
Speaker 3: And yeah, a lot of people think they're the lizard people.
Speaker 3: So they think that when the Men in Black shove there,
Speaker 3: because it looks like they're wearing skin, that's.
Speaker 1: What somebody had just said that. Somebody said that they
Speaker 1: wearing the CIA skin masks as they all look the
Speaker 1: same or something like that.
Speaker 3: And they talk really weird. They do not talk remotely
Speaker 3: like us. They're very very very strange. But yeah, they
Speaker 3: and then they come at all these weird shapes and
Speaker 3: sizes too. Some of them are incredibly tall and slender.
Speaker 3: There was a dwarf, like a tiny one that was
Speaker 3: like under four feet. They're like all they're very very
Speaker 3: very oddly shaped.
Speaker 1: And see now that I got this context to the CIA,
Speaker 1: the Men in Black and then you got the whole
Speaker 1: Alien disclosure thing going on. Now have you seen that
Speaker 1: new film Disclosure Day?
Speaker 3: Not yet, No, I wanted to. I made the mistake
Speaker 3: of seeing He Man instead of that, and that was terrible.
Speaker 3: So definitely should have seen Disclosure Day.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I talked to you because that was gonna
Speaker 1: be my next one. I was like, oh, man, masters
Speaker 1: on my face.
Speaker 3: No don't. I mean, you can't go see it or
Speaker 3: wait wait for it on streaming. It'll be out and
Speaker 3: it's just hot, moist garbage, just my opinion, and I
Speaker 3: like those things, but this is bad. So it was
Speaker 3: that good and don't and Hollywood's learning the lesson. It
Speaker 3: was bad, like it's not making money, it's getting beat
Speaker 3: out by obsession and back rooms. You know. That had
Speaker 3: like a twenty five dollars budget, but yeah, oh no, awful.
Speaker 1: So but in that movie, I won't give you no spoilers,
Speaker 1: but like one of the main plot lines of it
Speaker 1: is that there is this group of people that are
Speaker 1: they're not government, but they're private entities, you know, like
Speaker 1: big Corp, like Silicon Valley, Elon Musk type people that
Speaker 1: control the technology and stuff that they've gotten from the
Speaker 1: entities basically, and they kind of operate as men in black.
Speaker 1: They go and try to you know, suppress everything and
Speaker 1: keep it out of the limelight and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: That makes me wonder if those are correlated, because we
Speaker 1: always heard about, you know, these men in black showing
Speaker 1: up the Smithsonian grabbing the bones, you know, and all
Speaker 1: this type stuff. Is this we always assume government. What's
Speaker 1: your opinion? Do you do you think that this could
Speaker 1: be some kind of private company operating, you know, without
Speaker 1: the leash of the Uh.
Speaker 3: I believe it's it's I think it's beyond government. I
Speaker 3: think it's outside the jurisdiction of the government. I think
Speaker 3: there are things that the government definitely tries to cover up,
Speaker 3: but I think they're innocuous and I think that for
Speaker 3: the most part, it's very selfish. I think when the
Speaker 3: government tries to cover up, say like bigfoot sightings, different things,
Speaker 3: it's so that they don't have to deal with the
Speaker 3: ramifications of like, hey, this is a new creature that
Speaker 3: has like what's its range, what's its roaming? Do we
Speaker 3: have to put you know, do we have to stop
Speaker 3: logging in these areas or do we have to close down,
Speaker 3: you know, the the national parks so that Bigfoot can roam,
Speaker 3: you know. I think it's more that because they don't
Speaker 3: know what it is. Then I think there's other entities
Speaker 3: that know what it is and are trying to keep
Speaker 3: it under wraps slash control everything about it. And I
Speaker 3: think they're far more nefarious and deeper. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what their full plan is, but I
Speaker 3: think it's bad for us. So I think they are nefarious,
Speaker 3: but I don't think they're under the purview of the
Speaker 3: president on down. I think they exist completely separate and outside,
Speaker 3: and they're funded outside too. I don't know what the
Speaker 3: men in Black are, but they are other. That's I mean,
Speaker 3: I would classify them as other. I don't think they're
Speaker 3: human beings. If you were to tell me, if you
Speaker 3: get in the lizard people stuff, which I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe right, like how many conspiracies can you believe at
Speaker 3: the same time, But if they're lizard people, it seems
Speaker 3: like there's something, you know, are they are the people?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Like? So the lizard people, the seed of the serpent,
Speaker 3: all those different uh, you know, trends of thought maybe right?
Speaker 3: Like maybe, but there are other.
Speaker 2: You know, I like that, Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: That that that should be your next T shirt the
Speaker 1: men in Black, you know, like maybe pulling off that
Speaker 1: c I a mask and seeing the scales underneath and
Speaker 1: be like the other company. That's funny. But do I
Speaker 1: need to hook up with you for real? Because like
Speaker 1: one thing I've expressed to people is I love conferences
Speaker 1: and especially you know where my book kind of deals
Speaker 1: with Biblical conspiracy and cryptids. It's kind of a crossover
Speaker 1: kind of book, so it can kind of get me
Speaker 1: out of the just the Christian stuff. It can get
Speaker 1: me into you know, the cryptid type festivals and things
Speaker 1: like that. But I can or if I do find
Speaker 1: after the fact, you.
Speaker 3: Know, the Christian cryptid market is very niche. Like I've
Speaker 3: learned that, you know, Like, so I am a Christian.
Speaker 3: I have been in the Christian market my whole life.
Speaker 3: And then you take that tiny, tiny, tiny subset of
Speaker 3: Christian supernatural cryptid and they do exist. They all listen
Speaker 3: to blurry creatures, but they do exist. But it is niche.
Speaker 3: So to some degree, if you want this to get bigger,
Speaker 3: you need to be able to get out of just
Speaker 3: that market or you know, beyond, not just out, but
Speaker 3: grow it beyond that, you know, and there's now they're
Speaker 3: the cryptid market is growing by leaps and bounds, you
Speaker 3: know these I mean, dude, I was just at a
Speaker 3: pestil in Kentucky two weeks ago with fifteen thousand people
Speaker 3: the Red River Gorge, Kentucky Bigfoot test. Fifteen thousand people
Speaker 3: was amazing, So lots of T shirts had some great conversations.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the thing that's I want to get
Speaker 1: in that space. But uh, like I said, I can
Speaker 1: never find them. If I do, it's after the fact.
Speaker 1: And I want to get plugged in with these people too,
Speaker 1: because like a lot of the I've noticed a lot
Speaker 1: of the people that talk and stuff at these conferences
Speaker 1: are usually just you know, kind of like field researchers
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and they all it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, they all have their their one lane. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: if I could get a shot at the batter's box
Speaker 1: and get up there and talk about the cryptids and stuff,
Speaker 1: but through a biblical supernatural worldview.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you here's the problem. Here's because I've done it,
Speaker 3: I've spoken, and here's the problem with it. The reason
Speaker 3: those guys get booked all the time is because the
Speaker 3: number one thing in that community is they want proof
Speaker 3: of the existence of Bigfoot. That's the number one Like
Speaker 3: they don't they don't want theories, they don't want the supernatural.
Speaker 3: They definitely don't want supernatural, like they freak out about supernatural.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying they don't want a biblical perspective,
Speaker 3: but they want a biblical perspective to prove the existence
Speaker 3: of a relic eight horminid creature. And and that's all.
Speaker 3: So that's those are the only people to get booked
Speaker 3: are celebrities that help further that narrative. God. They do
Speaker 3: not give into the wu Wu at all, pretty much.
Speaker 3: They won't. They won't put up with the wu Wu.
Speaker 3: It has to be and and they're out, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna shots fire, you ready, shots fired? Almost almost shots fire.
Speaker 3: Almost every single one of those speakers is incredibly boring,
Speaker 3: like like grotesquely, like you wouldn't sit through, Like it's
Speaker 3: like a biology class in high school. It's just bad.
Speaker 3: Not all of them, I'm not saying all of them,
Speaker 3: but ninety eight percent. It's just that they and they
Speaker 3: don't know how to speak to a crowd. They're not
Speaker 3: I mean, and they're super zeroed in on their thing,
Speaker 3: their field and their theory. Oh my goodness. It's like.
Speaker 1: I've noticed that the few that I have been to though,
Speaker 1: like where I've had a table and stuff set up
Speaker 1: and brought my books, I've I've sold out my books.
Speaker 1: It's like the people eat it up. And I've heard
Speaker 1: because there's some that look at it in scoff, you know,
Speaker 1: because they want the physicality anything about the Bible they're
Speaker 1: gonna huh. But there's several that I come across man
Speaker 1: that found it very interesting, you know, and it's something
Speaker 1: different in that pond of like you said, of the
Speaker 1: monotonous same thing. You know, clear eyes is an ingredient
Speaker 1: to moisturize, you know, here's something with some color and loud,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, oh, what's what's going on
Speaker 1: over here? So I definitely love to get plugged into
Speaker 1: that space. So it's like I need I need some
Speaker 1: friends like you that knows where all these events are
Speaker 1: and go, because I love to to set up and
Speaker 1: have a take files.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can be your guide, I'll be your gandalf
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Bringing the Wisdom from Middle Earth. Well, man, well, dude,
Speaker 1: I want to keep you too long. I know, I
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Speaker 1: And there's so much that book. I know we just
Speaker 1: barely kind of pull back. But that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I got so much. I get like you want
Speaker 3: to talk deep dive. It's the deepest dive in this book.
Speaker 3: So yeah, this we cover it all. I love it. Man.
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