Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the Occult Rejects another
Speaker 1: episode of Rustic Gods. I am your humble host here,
Speaker 1: coming to you live from the Gray Pilled Garage, the
Speaker 1: Mississippi Mystic himself Jules, host of the Gray Pill podcast.
Speaker 1: What's going on Everybody with me tonight? My two fellow rejects,
Speaker 1: Nick the CEO and founder of The Occult Rejects and
Speaker 1: the Headless Giant. My my partner in crime and this endeavor,
Speaker 1: this series that we're doing. And uh, the host of
Speaker 1: the Headless Giant podcast Alchemy mondays, uh mail bag Thursdays,
Speaker 1: lots of stuff that he does. So y'all tuesdays?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he has all the days covered. So what's
Speaker 1: up boy?
Speaker 3: Well this Tuesday, we're actually going back to one of
Speaker 3: our favorites. We're gonna be talking D M T again.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's Wednesday. I think Wednesday night.
Speaker 3: Wednesday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we still got Tuesday. I didn't get I
Speaker 4: didn't offer Tuesday because I didn't want to fuck that up.
Speaker 4: It for the second week in a row.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's exciting. I gotta check that out.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 4: You know what sub Jewels you did you fix the
Speaker 4: the video for Headless?
Speaker 2: It fit the screen this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, I was like, I was gonna offer you
Speaker 1: room and be like, yo.
Speaker 2: You'll be and I'm fixed that.
Speaker 1: You notice all my edits, all my ads that I do,
Speaker 1: all the uh, all the thumbnails and like the background
Speaker 1: as they all fit. I'm very O C D about
Speaker 1: the production quality of things. So maybe that's a good
Speaker 1: thing for y'all. Right, Uh, I'll definitely send that over
Speaker 1: to you Headless so you can use that uh on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, guys, it's been a couple of weeks. Last episode,
Speaker 1: we uh we discussed priapus, fashionists, uh, the the phallic
Speaker 1: god well really just uh uh a symbol for you know,
Speaker 1: not fertilization. What the fuck am I talking about them?
Speaker 1: Fertility energy, yeah, fertility right, fertility that people you know.
Speaker 1: I mean it could be considered a talisman of sorts,
Speaker 1: you know, to wear around your neck or something, you know,
Speaker 1: good luck, charm you may find, uh you know, the
Speaker 1: love of your life be shot by cupid. Right, And
Speaker 1: so we we discussed the fashionists and and uh priapus,
Speaker 1: and it was very interesting. We we uh we looked
Speaker 1: at a lot of interesting images and it was a blast.
Speaker 1: But tonight I believe we are discussing the the se
Speaker 1: nymphs right headless.
Speaker 3: This is a very interesting point of contention in Greek mythology. So, uh,
Speaker 3: in the Theogony, right, Uh, you've got the the you know, Titans, right,
Speaker 3: and you've got the Olympians and half of the Titans,
Speaker 3: you know, half of this first group that came out
Speaker 3: of Gaia and Uranus took up the sea, and so
Speaker 3: Ocens or Okeanus and Tethnus represent sort of the split
Speaker 3: in hierarchies that doesn't really ever get healed, right, So
Speaker 3: they are representative of all of these other spears that
Speaker 3: live in the water or around the water, or around rivers, lakes, streams,
Speaker 3: all of this stuff. And in fact, in the in
Speaker 3: the Theogony, it's made a point that Hera, the wife
Speaker 3: of Zeus, believes that it wasn't Gaya and Urunos or
Speaker 3: the earth in the sky that were the first dichotomy,
Speaker 3: it was actually Okeanus and Tetus, which is actually a
Speaker 3: little bit more biblical if you think about it. So
Speaker 3: before there was anything, it was the spirit of the
Speaker 3: Lord was over the chaos of the deep. Right, So
Speaker 3: in the biblical version, you could kind of see how
Speaker 3: these gods would be first, and Hera is saying that
Speaker 3: these gods are first. Now, these Okeanus and Tetus were
Speaker 3: kind of playing a neutral role throughout the Titanomachi or
Speaker 3: the battle against the Titans, because they're in the water.
Speaker 3: They don't really care. And Okeannas is constantly referred to
Speaker 3: as the streams of the rivers around the world.
Speaker 1: Right, And this is him right here, guys, Oceanis Okianus.
Speaker 3: They call him reclining one because he's constantly laying, you know,
Speaker 3: water finds his level.
Speaker 1: Now, this is different than Poseidon, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, serve yes, okay. Poseidon is sort of like, well,
Speaker 3: you've got Poseidon, you've got Zeus, and you've got Hades.
Speaker 3: You've got the sea, the water, or you've got the water,
Speaker 3: you've got the air right on top of Mount Olympus,
Speaker 3: and you've got the underworld. Right. So really, what you've
Speaker 3: got in these three brothers is you've got dominion over
Speaker 3: all of these areas, Like these are the three spirits
Speaker 3: that govern all of the spirits in those areas, right, So, Zeus, Hades,
Speaker 3: and Poseidon are sort of like the new rulers of
Speaker 3: the world after Titanamaki, after things have changed with all
Speaker 3: of these you know, cataclysmic events, all of these massive
Speaker 3: you know pounding by by heavenly bodies, all of this,
Speaker 3: you know, comets striking the planet.
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, and you see kind of that triarchy of
Speaker 1: of those three guys, and you see it elsewhere ball
Speaker 1: Yam and Mott right the air, water and the underworld,
Speaker 1: and and dude, I mean yeah, so this isn't foreign
Speaker 1: to us, and so yeah, that's that's pretty interesting that
Speaker 1: this is not Poseidon but like an elder god right right, Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh, Keenness in being the reclining one, is considered not
Speaker 3: to take sides, right, and so he kind of holds
Speaker 3: all of the secrets, and yet he doesn't take sides
Speaker 3: in any of these kinds. He's sort of like the
Speaker 3: neutral arbiter. So he often comes to Zeus and is
Speaker 3: giving advice to Zeus, and Zeus is like, get away
Speaker 3: from me, old man, I don't want to hear what
Speaker 3: you have to say. So he's he's kind of like this,
Speaker 3: if you're not gonna take a side, you're gonna pick
Speaker 3: ok thiss ok. This is like, I don't pick sides.
Speaker 1: I see here's one of him and Tetus. Let me
Speaker 1: pull this up. This is great. I actually really like
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 3: Is this with the uh pincer horns?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you already know I love it. Yeah, yeah, you've.
Speaker 3: Tata has these wings and the serpent and he's got
Speaker 3: the pincer horns, which I think are very unique and really,
Speaker 3: you know, striking about this motif is is he's got
Speaker 3: crab horns, and crabs are seen as like, uh, have
Speaker 3: you ever heard of carsonization?
Speaker 1: Uh? No, So in.
Speaker 3: Carconization, you've got all these different arthropods, including spiders and
Speaker 3: other things that have developed underwater to take on the
Speaker 3: shape of the crab. Right, So it's like it doesn't
Speaker 3: matter what type of invertebrate bug you've got living in
Speaker 3: the ocean, at some point, they're going to evolve into
Speaker 3: the crab. And so o Keynness having the little pincers
Speaker 3: as a head is kind of a reminder of that carsonization, right, like,
Speaker 3: all my creatures will eventually become a crab. Right.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And she she has uh the wings are hermes, are
Speaker 1: you know? The those those wings that are on on
Speaker 1: her head, as well as the serpent h so there's
Speaker 1: some hermetic symbolism there, right.
Speaker 3: But their horns are on the front of their heads,
Speaker 3: which is a little bit different from what you think
Speaker 3: of as normal horns. Is like normal horns are back.
Speaker 1: Here, backing, curved.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, So it's a different perspective. But that
Speaker 3: is representational of all of the spirits that come out
Speaker 3: of their youth. So that would be the near its
Speaker 3: and the oceanids. Those would be the three thousand spirits
Speaker 3: that give birth to all these other things. Now, you know,
Speaker 3: doing magic on the open ocean and sort of connecting
Speaker 3: with these spirits also connects you with the wind and
Speaker 3: everything else. So this was very important for ancient travel,
Speaker 3: is to get in touch with the spirits of the
Speaker 3: water so that you're not left dealing with these sirens.
Speaker 1: Here's the oceanids right here.
Speaker 3: Right, and the sirens are a big part of this.
Speaker 3: You know, they hate mankind. What are you doing in
Speaker 3: our oceans? You don't belong here. You're just mortals for
Speaker 3: the land. You don't have dominion over us. We can
Speaker 3: do whatever we want to. Once you get in the boat,
Speaker 3: it's sort of like we have dominion here. You can't
Speaker 3: touch us, and in a lot of ways. You see
Speaker 3: that reflected in a lot of the stories, especially with
Speaker 3: the you know Odyssey, where's he's you know, tied himself
Speaker 3: to the mass, right, and he takes the cotton out
Speaker 3: of his ears. Everybody else has the cotton in the ears,
Speaker 3: but he takes the cotton out to see if you
Speaker 3: can withstand the call of the sirens. And he doesn't.
Speaker 3: He fails.
Speaker 1: But this is very interesting, this certain kind of imagery
Speaker 1: right here. It's like these spirits are filing into the
Speaker 1: ocean and then they are re emerging as sirens right right.
Speaker 3: And there's a connection between the sirens and the oh
Speaker 3: I'm losing their names, the the guys with the claws,
Speaker 3: the harpies harpies, right, So the harpies and sirens kind
Speaker 3: of get intermingled a little bit. So, for instance, these
Speaker 3: these two sirens that attack the feast that Hercules is
Speaker 3: attending that he's got to smash into bits. They used
Speaker 3: to be sirens of the water, so now they're sirens
Speaker 3: of the air and they're attacking this feast, right. So
Speaker 3: it's it's almost like these are the naval pilots that
Speaker 3: are coming out of the water to afflict mankind with
Speaker 3: their maleficence in the form of this kind of you know,
Speaker 3: being with these claws and the wings and everything. What.
Speaker 1: Oh well, as I's going to pull this image up,
Speaker 1: I find this interesting. Right here, there's a harpie over
Speaker 1: a sea fairy like over the ship. So did they
Speaker 1: have anything to do with those? So you're saying they
Speaker 1: did have something to do with the ocean.
Speaker 3: Right right? So these are nearads that eventually got the
Speaker 3: wings and the claws, okay, okay, And but they're coming
Speaker 3: out of the water as well. So there's this constant
Speaker 3: sort of push pull when it comes to humans and
Speaker 3: these spirits of the ocean. You can see that a
Speaker 3: lot with Poseidon.
Speaker 1: And there's a eye of Horace that they always put
Speaker 1: on their boat for good luck. They still do that
Speaker 1: to this day. Guys, If y'all didn't know, the fishermen
Speaker 1: in Greece and Rome and all, you know, all those
Speaker 1: other places around the Mediterranean put the eye of Horace
Speaker 1: on their boat for good luck. Intention on symbols, you know, right,
Speaker 1: And a lot.
Speaker 3: Of that has to do with what they saw of Apollo,
Speaker 3: because they call Apollo Horace the Elder. So in their
Speaker 3: Parenteon the syncretism with Horace was very present when talking
Speaker 3: about Apollo. So Apollo being the son of Zeus, right,
Speaker 3: the avenging angel, right.
Speaker 1: As well as being the son of Osiris, the avenging
Speaker 1: god to avenge his father, you know, and take back Egypt. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see that now near Eds? Or did I say that? Right?
Speaker 1: Near Reids? Nearads? And well, you know, I try my best.
Speaker 1: Ocean is what what's the difference between the two. Is
Speaker 1: there is there a difference or is it?
Speaker 3: Well, it's uh, it's not really that clear because again,
Speaker 3: like all of these three thousand spirits that uh Okeans
Speaker 3: and uh Tetus had together would be kind of like
Speaker 3: considered both the you know, nerds and oceanids, but in
Speaker 3: different places they were called different things, and usually the
Speaker 3: names would stick based upon the popularity. Right. So there's
Speaker 3: so many different gods of the ocean, that's ridiculous. Right.
Speaker 3: So just in Greek and Roman mythology, you've got Pontus,
Speaker 3: which is like another oceanis. You've got uh, you know,
Speaker 3: uh Neptune, which would be like one of the sons
Speaker 3: of uh you know, Poseidon, and he's a near it
Speaker 3: or or like a c spirit as well as well
Speaker 3: as the constant combinations of ocean in spirits and even
Speaker 3: Dionysus dolphins. Right, one of dionysus symbols is a dolphin.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, we were reading about that on Esotary book
Speaker 1: review two weeks ago on on the symbolism of fish.
Speaker 1: There you go, I think maybe bacchus. No, yeah, no, dude,
Speaker 1: you see the dolphin a lot, guys, we talked about
Speaker 1: that a lot on Gray pill and what's she having
Speaker 1: her hand? There was that a cross.
Speaker 2: Could be a mirror.
Speaker 4: I was thinking maybe a mirror. Yeah, sure, it's that
Speaker 4: thing that missed me. Is that thing that would spend
Speaker 4: it out of the little things.
Speaker 1: About I mean, you know they they they had the
Speaker 1: onc and I have this depiction I posted, ah kech
Speaker 1: you know the frog god u of primordial darkness. He
Speaker 1: had an onk in his hand in this one thing.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know, you you gotta ask. But
Speaker 1: I do see the octopus as well.
Speaker 3: So that's interesting, right, So let me read from the
Speaker 3: oil and then we can get back into it. So
Speaker 3: the Nearids were fifty. Okay, so the Nearids are only
Speaker 3: the fifty. The Oceanids represent a different number, but they
Speaker 3: were the fifty sea nymphe daughters of near Us, the
Speaker 3: old man of the sea. Again back to that idea,
Speaker 3: is Oceanus has all of these different forms, like Pontis
Speaker 3: is the Roman form and Pontis is If you look
Speaker 3: up Pontus, you'll find the same depictions as Oceanish. They
Speaker 3: were goddesses of the sea's rich bounty, protecting the sailors
Speaker 3: and fishermen, coming to the aid of those in distress. Individually,
Speaker 3: they represent various facets of the sea from salty broun,
Speaker 3: the sea foam aphrodite right uh, sand rocks, waves and currents,
Speaker 3: as well as the various skills possessed by seamen. The
Speaker 3: neards dwelt with their elderly father in a silvery grotto. Again,
Speaker 3: like you see so much of this is that Pontes
Speaker 3: or is that that that's Pontus.
Speaker 1: He looks the exact same.
Speaker 3: Exactly that stude.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure behind him is a hippocampus.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well that is very important to the status rights.
Speaker 1: Let's the whale that has something to do with the
Speaker 1: hippocampus if you look into the symbolism behind it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that it looks like a seahorse too. The
Speaker 2: hippo campus.
Speaker 3: Right right, So the nearess dwelt with their elderly father
Speaker 3: and a silvery grotto at the bottom of the G
Speaker 3: A G and C. The near Tetis or a Thetis
Speaker 3: was their unofficial leader, and Amphiitrite was Poseidon's queen. The
Speaker 3: Neards were depicted in ancient art as beautiful young maidens,
Speaker 3: sometimes running with small dolphins or fish in their hands,
Speaker 3: or else riding the backs of dolphins, hippocampboy or hippocamps
Speaker 3: other sea creatures. Again, back to the hippocamps here we go.
Speaker 3: The name Nearids means daughter of nearest, but also the
Speaker 3: wet ones from neros, the Greek word for wet Again.
Speaker 3: It's the dolphins and hippocamp boy.
Speaker 1: She got somebody's head in her hand, dude.
Speaker 3: Probably sailors. They love to fuck with sailors and they
Speaker 3: love to, you know, kill them and use their bodies
Speaker 3: as trophies.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: If you guys haven't listened to what's his name? The
Speaker 3: guy who's the gen X guy who's always talking about
Speaker 3: the watchers funk? What's his name? He's got X men
Speaker 3: and uh, what do you call it? X files? Under
Speaker 3: his belt. He just came out with a book about
Speaker 3: the X Files.
Speaker 2: Damn can't I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Ah, I'm losing it. We keep asking him to come
Speaker 3: on the show, but he refuses to. I forget his name.
Speaker 3: But anyways, he talks about the this the singing troupe
Speaker 3: that No, not Alberto, but he talks about this singing
Speaker 3: troop that uses oh cn it or near it imagery
Speaker 3: in there in their production. It's called uh the something Twin.
Speaker 3: But anyways, like none of their words actually make any sense.
Speaker 3: They're singing and it sounds like words, but none of
Speaker 3: them are actually words.
Speaker 2: Talk about Rubert Sheldrake.
Speaker 3: He's another one that keeps telling me tho the Cocktail Twins.
Speaker 3: Have you guys ever listened to Cocto Twins music?
Speaker 1: No CONATAI twins heard?
Speaker 3: The Cocto Twins represent sort of this neard energy, this
Speaker 3: mermaidy type energy, and they make songs that don't actually
Speaker 3: have any words. They sound like words, but they're just
Speaker 3: all nonsense strings of dismeaning and they put out these
Speaker 3: songs on significant dates that go along with high level
Speaker 3: assassinations and stuff like that. So there's this Cocto Twins
Speaker 3: sort of near it idea that goes along with this,
Speaker 3: you know, where we're taking revenge for all of the
Speaker 3: mermaids you killed or something like that, or the death
Speaker 3: of the oceans. And so this Docto Twins band's band
Speaker 3: is specifically producing music that doesn't have any meaning to it,
Speaker 3: but is put out on significant dates with.
Speaker 1: The energy behind it as well, right, the intention behind it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. That's all that matters. And that's
Speaker 1: and you can look at a lot of pointless art
Speaker 1: as that, right, Yeah, to think, you know, well.
Speaker 3: The Cocktail Twins pride themselves on sort of injecting their
Speaker 3: own belief system into the garbage layer or garbage strata
Speaker 3: of media, which would be like all of this, you know, advertising,
Speaker 3: everything that pops up in the commercials, all of that
Speaker 3: stuff has sort of these underlying meanings that people don't
Speaker 3: really get, but it goes directly into your subconscious mind.
Speaker 3: The garbage strata of media is the stuff that sticks
Speaker 3: most often in the back of your brain. And you know,
Speaker 3: you start singing along with the songs and you don't
Speaker 3: know why the song gets stuck in your head, but
Speaker 3: it's there. And so their their whole goal is, Hey,
Speaker 3: we can have the most impact by getting our nonsense
Speaker 3: words and our nonsense songs into your mind and you
Speaker 3: not knowing why it's there. So it's it's kind of
Speaker 3: a powerful and dangerous sort of spiritual paradigm that they're
Speaker 3: existing in. But nobody who's done any you know, serious
Speaker 3: research into this, has any idea that it's happening less
Speaker 3: they're looking at the Jamatri and everything else, But the
Speaker 3: Cocto twins seem like these rabid, kind of lodest sort
Speaker 3: of magicians that are acting on the subconscious layer of
Speaker 3: the brain. And they're always associated with these major celebrities too, right,
Speaker 3: And there aren't actually no Coctau Twins, Like they just
Speaker 3: made that name up. There's no twins involved at all, right,
Speaker 3: so you already get the images in your head, but
Speaker 3: none of that stuff is real. So I think it's
Speaker 3: a it's a powerful form of magic. So here are
Speaker 3: a list of the named nerds. But I want to
Speaker 3: get to the hippocamp first, because the hippocamp is very
Speaker 3: important to Greek mythology. So in a certain time they
Speaker 3: were having a contest of who gets to be the
Speaker 3: patron god of Athens. I don't think it was even
Speaker 3: called Athens at the time. But on one hand, you've
Speaker 3: got this very eager Poseidon who comes up to the
Speaker 3: shore and he's like, I've got everything you need Athens.
Speaker 3: I'll show it to you.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So the first thing I'm bringing to you is this
Speaker 3: hippo camp, right, And the hippo camp was like a
Speaker 3: pro too horse that came from the ocean. And so
Speaker 3: the hippo camp, you know, he brings it up on
Speaker 3: land and obviously it's not doing anything because it's meant
Speaker 3: for the ocean. And they're like, that's nice. It's kind
Speaker 3: of water horse, but you know, we kind of need horses.
Speaker 3: We don't need a water horse, right, And so then
Speaker 3: Poseidon's like, here, I'm gonna show you what I can do.
Speaker 3: So he gets out his you know, his big old staff,
Speaker 3: and he hits a rock and what comes out of
Speaker 3: it is seawater. Are you getting any sort of vibes
Speaker 3: about you know, Moses at all? Because there is that element.
Speaker 3: So he hits the rock and outcomes seawater. He's like, look,
Speaker 3: I brought you this spring, and they're like, we can't
Speaker 3: drink it. What are you doing, and then this woman
Speaker 3: named Athena comes out and she brings the olive tree,
Speaker 3: and the olive tree was food shelter, everything like this
Speaker 3: was their memory source. And they're like, all right, we're
Speaker 3: gonna go with her instead. And so from that point on,
Speaker 3: Poseidon was kind of pissed that he got passed up,
Speaker 3: even though he brought these wonderful things from the sea
Speaker 3: that all these people decided they couldn't use for some reason.
Speaker 3: And the horse did come along later at a point
Speaker 3: where it was no longer a hippo camp anymore, but
Speaker 3: the Greeks were pretty convinced that the horse came out
Speaker 3: of the hippocamp so that was their sort of idea
Speaker 3: about it. And again, the horse coming from the ocean
Speaker 3: a very different way of seeing things.
Speaker 1: But so I don't think I'm streaming to my YouTube.
Speaker 3: Sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I just went and
Speaker 1: looked and it says, waiting, that's weird, that's real weird.
Speaker 1: I'm scheduled for it's December fourteenth, right, yeah, at nine fifteen,
Speaker 1: it's ninety three. That's weird. It's it's the crazy and
Speaker 1: the craziest thing about it is. It's showing on the
Speaker 1: stream yard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's only five destinations. It's not even over what
Speaker 4: we can use. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Let me remove and I'll delete on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Damn send it back out now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, guys, we'll upload it.
Speaker 3: While you're working on that. I can read some of
Speaker 3: the names of the neards so forth. All right, So
Speaker 3: first one is a gave, oh gove like the cactus.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And this is a near it whose name means the
Speaker 3: illustrious uh at tia, the near it of the seashore.
Speaker 3: I'm a thea. And this this one actually comes up
Speaker 3: a lot in Greek mythology. A'm atha one of the neards,
Speaker 3: one who rears or nurses the fish. Right. A'm Athea
Speaker 3: was also associated with the water goat infinamy, a near
Speaker 3: it of the sea's bounty, literally she of the surrounding pasture. Now,
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, you can understand how these
Speaker 3: names themselves represent the spirit. So as you are invoking
Speaker 3: these names in your in your practices, it's this is
Speaker 3: the spirit that it kind of rules over comes over you.
Speaker 3: So these are you know, the names are very important.
Speaker 3: So Amphittrite, the Neared, Queen of the Sea, the surrounding
Speaker 3: third surrounding third life.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, go over to to my stream and
Speaker 1: like it it's now we got it up and going. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I figured that all these near ads would have names.
Speaker 1: Uh is it the same thing with the ocean?
Speaker 3: Its it is, and there's a lot of them.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to write these down, so I guess
Speaker 1: we'll have to just get a list on.
Speaker 3: Theo theoi dot com has all of the lists and
Speaker 3: the references, so if you're actually looking for where these
Speaker 3: things can be found in the existing Greek literature, you'll
Speaker 3: find all sorts of references for them over at theoi
Speaker 3: dot org.
Speaker 1: Hey, so, before we get too far away from the hippocampus,
Speaker 1: doesn't isn't this like part of your brain?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I do it Honestly, until he started
Speaker 4: saying something else, I thought you guys were talking about
Speaker 4: the brain.
Speaker 2: That's why I said, oh, it.
Speaker 1: Looks like let's put a bookmark on the.
Speaker 3: I told you.
Speaker 2: Then I was like, oh, wait, we're not talking about.
Speaker 1: It, because this is fascinating to me. You find this
Speaker 1: with everything, dude, which we just talked about. The Fridgie
Speaker 1: and cap, you know, and the gallbladder. So like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I.
Speaker 3: Just think about this real quick. So the Greeks did
Speaker 3: do some medical experimentation and they saw what fetuses are
Speaker 3: looking like, and basically all things in their primordial state
Speaker 3: kind of look like hippocampoy. Right, It's like the fetuses
Speaker 3: take the shape of the hippocampoid before they become anything.
Speaker 3: So for them to be talking about the hippoc campoi
Speaker 3: being the predecessor or the previous version of the horse
Speaker 3: kind of actually makes sense because you know, that's sort
Speaker 3: of the fetal state of everything kind of looks like
Speaker 3: the hippocampoy or the hippocampus in the brain, So there
Speaker 3: is that element to it as well. So did I
Speaker 3: ever finish the thought on the wife of Zeus talking
Speaker 3: about how Oceanus and Tethys were the primaries and not
Speaker 3: you know, Gaia and Urinus. I think that's actually significant
Speaker 3: because we come from the waters. Everything is birth out
Speaker 3: of the waters, and the Greeks specifically believe that all
Speaker 3: creation is a sexual act. Everything involves that sexual union
Speaker 3: producing something else. This is why they have Gaya and
Speaker 3: Urunos as the progenitors for the world. Is because their
Speaker 3: love making brought everything else into existence. So, you know,
Speaker 3: for hera to say that we all come from the
Speaker 3: water actually and not from the union of the sky
Speaker 3: and the earth seems pretty significant and theologically damaging to
Speaker 3: the rest of the you know, polytheistic religion at that point,
Speaker 3: because they had to know the order of things, the hierarchy,
Speaker 3: the divine order, and for them to have this sort
Speaker 3: of dissenting opinion in that divine order would represent sort
Speaker 3: of a major departure from the establishment of that you know,
Speaker 3: Greek theogny. But Hara was always kind of an outlier
Speaker 3: when it comes to Greek mythology. She's she's not about
Speaker 3: all of those things that Zeus was doing to bring
Speaker 3: about new life in the world, you know, so kind
Speaker 3: of interesting. She was adopted by oceans and Tethys. So
Speaker 3: after I guess, during the time that the Golden Age
Speaker 3: where Kronos is ruling, she gets you know, barfed up
Speaker 3: after he takes it in, and then she's adopted by
Speaker 3: oceans and Tethus, so she's learning all the secrets of
Speaker 3: the ocean while Zeus is sort of conquering and becoming
Speaker 3: this this god king of the sky and.
Speaker 1: The sky god. Yeah. Yeah, interesting, dude. Yeah, I'll never
Speaker 1: think of Poseidon again. I'll think of Oceanis whenever, you know,
Speaker 1: think of the got it the god of the water
Speaker 1: or the oceans, the sea.
Speaker 3: Well, Amphatrite is his his is his queen Amphatrite.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I saw that name. I was going to
Speaker 1: ask you about that.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's interesting that her name literally means surrounding third. Right,
Speaker 3: So if you think about the water and the land
Speaker 3: and all these things being divided up, there's this idea
Speaker 3: of maybe the surrounding again. Oceanus is the god of
Speaker 3: the rivers that surround the world, and if she's the
Speaker 3: surrounding third, there's a cross over there too.
Speaker 1: So here's she is right again with the hippocampus, dude Camps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right. It has a lot to do with this
Speaker 3: uh primordial state that you find in the womb, and
Speaker 3: so you know, the gods of the fetuses would be
Speaker 3: the water gods, you know, so a lot of childbirth
Speaker 3: goes into these gods as well. Together with their sisters,
Speaker 3: the Kima Tall Kima tall Legie, and the Kima Tokey,
Speaker 3: she possesses the power to still the winds and calm
Speaker 3: the sea. So if you got a lot of winds
Speaker 3: on the sea, maybe you should be praying to infiltrate
Speaker 3: apsudies one of the neards Homer. But again, you know,
Speaker 3: if you think about these gods as being sort of
Speaker 3: like storm gods of the ocean, Poseidon is very angry.
Speaker 3: She's the one that calms Poseidon, right, Auto noi a
Speaker 3: nearid named with her own mind? Auto Noe very interesting.
Speaker 3: So the noose of Zeus, we'll probably get into that later.
Speaker 3: But Auto knowe, a nearid named with her own mind.
Speaker 3: Dexamine one of the nerds of the strength of the
Speaker 3: right hand.
Speaker 1: And sounds sounds like a pharmaceutical.
Speaker 3: A lot of these do become pharmaceuticals, which is strange
Speaker 3: because they go directly for the oceanids and nereids to
Speaker 3: create their pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, it doesn't pharmacopeia come from Greek? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like yeah, man, yeah.
Speaker 3: And all of these queens of the ocean who were pharmacy,
Speaker 3: they were taught by the sea how to produce these
Speaker 3: powerful drugs.
Speaker 1: Well, you have to look at sea moss, dude. That's
Speaker 1: why sea moss is so good for us and like
Speaker 1: all this stuff you find that you can find in
Speaker 1: the ocean that you can mix with other things that can,
Speaker 1: you know, do things that they'll probably kill you for
Speaker 1: finding a cure for right.
Speaker 3: Right true, Dione, one of the Dione, one of the
Speaker 3: divine Apollodorus. That's his reference. Doris Doris is where we
Speaker 3: can get the names from the near it of the
Speaker 3: sea's bounty or else the mixing of fresh water with
Speaker 3: the brine. They've got this spot in the ocean where
Speaker 3: this dirty water cannot mix with the clean water, and
Speaker 3: nobody knows exactly why that happens. There are so many
Speaker 3: different things that happen in the ocean that we can't
Speaker 3: fully explain that. I think you know, the Greeks were
Speaker 3: watching as well, so.
Speaker 1: They've got that, and so most of the ocean's unexplored.
Speaker 3: Dude, right right, Dodo the near it of giving safe
Speaker 3: sea voyage or generous catch Dodo interesting Diamini, the near
Speaker 3: it of the power Yoni, the near it of the
Speaker 3: beach strand. So I guess that would be like a
Speaker 3: beach shelf or one of these banks in the thing.
Speaker 3: And let's see Erratto named the lovely also another name
Speaker 3: for a mistake, I believe Coratto. So if you're writing
Speaker 3: in these manuscripts, instead of crossing everything out, you would
Speaker 3: write errato next to it. I could be getting it
Speaker 3: wrong with the spelling.
Speaker 1: But uh.
Speaker 3: Ava gora ava gora the neared of the good assembling
Speaker 3: of fish or perhaps navy ships right. So again, like
Speaker 3: where do they put the woman on the ship? They
Speaker 3: put it on the front bow right. They're not allowed
Speaker 3: to have women on the ships because they're bad luck.
Speaker 3: What happens if you've got a woman on the ship
Speaker 3: and you've got all of these nerds in the ocean
Speaker 3: that get jealous, shipwreck?
Speaker 2: Yah.
Speaker 3: That's the idea behind all of this sort of feminine
Speaker 3: imagery that you find on these ships all over the world.
Speaker 3: Just like you were saying, they still put the eye
Speaker 3: of Horus on the front of the boats.
Speaker 1: Hey on this boat that this near it is? I
Speaker 1: don't know who that is in particular that I mean,
Speaker 1: do you see horses? You see cinaurs? So you see
Speaker 1: the hippocampus like that looks like dolphins. Is that Apollo
Speaker 1: sunwheel right there that's on the boat or that that's
Speaker 1: a shell. It's just.
Speaker 3: But they always love to ride around on shells, blow shells.
Speaker 3: Neptune he was always seen blowing the shell. He was
Speaker 3: the herald of psionic I think.
Speaker 1: They're called a conk right, or a conqueror conch or something.
Speaker 3: Right, But all of this stuff having to do with
Speaker 3: the ocean is always associated with aphrodite, venus love, associated
Speaker 3: with fine right.
Speaker 1: Man man, the feminine, and that goes back to the
Speaker 1: mystery schools, you know, the first two being that of
Speaker 1: the masculine or the solar or the feminine or the lunar,
Speaker 1: and that was fire and water rights has everything to
Speaker 1: do with the elementals as well. You know, once you
Speaker 1: once people figure that out, you can understand a lot
Speaker 1: more things symbolically. I think you absolutely, especially when you
Speaker 1: read the Bible. Dude, go and go and read the
Speaker 1: Bible again. After reading about you know, fire and water
Speaker 1: and the symbolism of it and where it all comes
Speaker 1: from and where you know it's wild.
Speaker 3: But well, Yahweh subdues a sea monster, right, so the
Speaker 3: sea monster I can look up the exact name, but yeah,
Speaker 3: Yahweh specifically comes down and slaves Leviathan.
Speaker 1: Which is symbolic for like killing your lower nature, killing
Speaker 1: your beast. You know what I mean. But you know
Speaker 1: the other scene, No, that's a behemoth. He's on the land.
Speaker 3: I think, well, behemoth is is closely related to the
Speaker 3: beast that's used in the Percius story where he's saving Andromeda.
Speaker 3: That thing that was coming out of the water, that
Speaker 3: was more of the behemoth style sea monster as opposed
Speaker 3: to the you know, more sea snake that you see
Speaker 3: with the Leviathan. Okay, let's get the let's get the
Speaker 3: actual verse here. Okay, so it says Isaiah twenty seven
Speaker 3: to one. I'm gonna pull that up two seven, one
Speaker 3: through five. Let's go twenty seven. So this is in
Speaker 3: Isah twenty seven to one. It says, in that day
Speaker 3: the Lord will punish his sword, his fierce and great
Speaker 3: powerful sword, Leviathon, the guilding, the gilding serpent, Leviathon, the
Speaker 3: coiling serpent. He will slay the monster of the sea.
Speaker 1: And that's also giving any serpent symbolism again like a
Speaker 1: negative connotation, right, you know, the serpent in the garden,
Speaker 1: the Leviathan, like it's all this self. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's never it's never expressed as anything else.
Speaker 1: But then when you go and actually look at the
Speaker 1: other meanings of this ancient serpent symbolism. It means so
Speaker 1: many different things, and not all of it's dark, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, you got the ancient god of chaos, Apathus right
Speaker 3: in the in the Egyptian pantheon, you got Typhon in
Speaker 3: the Greek pantheon. All of these things are centered around
Speaker 3: serpents and the slaying of serpents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I mean, you know you do have that.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the Mesopotamian you know that mythology,
Speaker 1: it's the the eagle versus the serpent, right, But you
Speaker 1: look at the people who are you know, represented by
Speaker 1: the eagle. You look at those entities or those deities,
Speaker 1: and and they're not you know, the best, They're not
Speaker 1: the best, any good example, I think, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, they're they're really like like I think I
Speaker 1: talked about it last time. They're more like the war gods,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that are represented by the eagle,
Speaker 1: and then the serpent is more of the uh you
Speaker 1: can say the mysteries or like the arts or whatever.
Speaker 1: But but in a.
Speaker 3: Way, they're they're describing the high hierarchy, right, So the
Speaker 3: war like culture will dominate over the more artistic culture,
Speaker 3: and the warlike culture will eventually have domination over this
Speaker 3: sort of more grounded, more in tune culture. I just
Speaker 3: see it as an internal thing, right, So you've got
Speaker 3: to have something to protect all of the good stuff
Speaker 3: that you're trying to keep for your own society. So
Speaker 3: instead of thinking about it like the eagle slaying the serpent,
Speaker 3: it should be more like the eagle is protecting the
Speaker 3: serpent's nest, you know what I mean, Because the serpent's nest,
Speaker 3: that's where you're sort of passing on the knowledge. You're
Speaker 3: passing on the information. But the egle has to kind
Speaker 3: of be brought into the right proportion to the serpent. Again,
Speaker 3: It's like the sky and the land have to, you know,
Speaker 3: be brought into harmony. So I want to go with
Speaker 3: Isaiah twenty seven too, in that day sing about a
Speaker 3: fruitful vineyard. Here's another water one. I the Lord watch
Speaker 3: over it. I water it continually. I guard it day
Speaker 3: and night so that no one may harm it. Again,
Speaker 3: he's slaying the Leviathan and then watering his garden. These
Speaker 3: are both two water images in the same sort of passage.
Speaker 3: One is being used as you know, this is the
Speaker 3: destructive influence of water. And then in the other one,
Speaker 3: this one is the growth influence of water. So in
Speaker 3: kind of the same way, this this garden is the
Speaker 3: thing watered by Yahweh because he is protecting it from Leviata.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think in a lot of mythologies,
Speaker 1: you have the serpent that's represented as you know, that
Speaker 1: monster that is, you know, the kind of bottom feeder,
Speaker 1: and then you have the one that is kind of
Speaker 1: represented as knowledge, right right, one more like a snake,
Speaker 1: and the other one is more like a dragon composite creature,
Speaker 1: you know. But then again, you know some some uh,
Speaker 1: some certain cultures would interchange symbols and use other things.
Speaker 1: You know. It was all about where you were, I guess.
Speaker 3: But a very complex relationship with water, very complex. So
Speaker 3: you know, this is their destruction and their salvation all
Speaker 3: in one thing. So they're cursing the water as they're
Speaker 3: using the water. They're you know, they're constantly in battle
Speaker 3: with water. Well at the same time, this is their
Speaker 3: their house and their home, this is their their future
Speaker 3: and and everything else. So all of these complex symbols
Speaker 3: having to do with Yahweh and water go way back.
Speaker 3: So you're talking about the flood, you're talking about the spring.
Speaker 3: All of these things are just centered around water and
Speaker 3: our you know, dependence and ultimate destruction due to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with Samile and fire, right, sons
Speaker 1: of fire, Sons of Samile? Yeah right.
Speaker 3: I put it like this. We live in a hungry universe.
Speaker 3: So everything that you could possibly say that has these
Speaker 3: positive connotations also have their negative drawbacks, and it all
Speaker 3: depends on which side you're looking at it from. You know,
Speaker 3: burning out the forest and then growing your crops is
Speaker 3: a very positive thing for you and your family, but
Speaker 3: what does it do to the forest and all of
Speaker 3: the other stuff. So, I mean we're looking at that
Speaker 3: complex relationship right now with the Amazon. We would know
Speaker 3: that there were huge civilizations living in the Amazon basin
Speaker 3: if not for these slash and burned farmers who are
Speaker 3: now exposing Hey, this whole thing used to be irritable
Speaker 3: land that they were growing crops in. And the only
Speaker 3: reason we can really see that that is because they
Speaker 3: cut down the canopy and we can actually see the
Speaker 3: ruts left by these ancient farmers in this land that
Speaker 3: we thought was always a massive forest. But it wasn't
Speaker 3: it was a built for us.
Speaker 1: So what was this, uh, this noose of Zeus that
Speaker 1: you were talking about? Zeus's news?
Speaker 3: What's this Zeus's news? It's kind of a concept I'm
Speaker 3: playing with. So in all of these you know, these
Speaker 3: uh these songs to Zeus, they always say that everything
Speaker 3: rotates around Zeus's head, and noos means mind, right, So
Speaker 3: it seems like they're trying to imply that the entirety
Speaker 3: of civilization and mankind and the creation of the world
Speaker 3: all exists within the mind of Zeus.
Speaker 1: Do you mean the news like n o Us?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I thought you meant the news like, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna be I was going to get into Odin hanging
Speaker 1: himself and everything.
Speaker 3: You're starting to get it's still.
Speaker 1: There, Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So if you're thinking about the demiurge idea, right, you're
Speaker 3: born to die. You're in the noose of Zeus, right, Eventually,
Speaker 3: that's that's everything's downfall. And you know a lot of
Speaker 3: ways you could see, well, how can Zeus be three things?
Speaker 3: How can he be the god of Hades and the
Speaker 3: god of the sea and the god of the sky. Well,
Speaker 3: everything's actually existing around his head and inside of his head.
Speaker 3: This is where Athena comes out of right, So Athena
Speaker 3: is taken into his head as a droplet of water
Speaker 3: because Athena's mother is in a contest, a shape shifting
Speaker 3: contest with Zeus, and in this shape shifting contest, Zeus
Speaker 3: becomes a droplet of water and then so does she,
Speaker 3: and before she can change back into whatever she is
Speaker 3: before he drinks her. But here's the problem. So he
Speaker 3: ends up getting this splitting headache and he doesn't understand why,
Speaker 3: and Hyphestus has to come with his hammer and smash
Speaker 3: the noose of Zeus, and out of the mind of
Speaker 3: Zeus comes Athena. So a lot of times you'll see
Speaker 3: Zeus with this tiny little Athena fully formed on his
Speaker 3: palm and he's holding her up. This was the wisdom
Speaker 3: of Zeus.
Speaker 1: Being manifest my nerve Athena. Yeah, wisdom right, wow, wow, dude,
Speaker 1: I love that. That's that's crazy symbolism.
Speaker 3: But again, it comes from the water. The water is
Speaker 3: the ultimate source of the wisdom that comes through Zeus.
Speaker 3: And you know, I keep going back to this book
Speaker 3: right upside down four phase of Water. If you haven't
Speaker 3: gotten to yet. You guys need to buy it. Go
Speaker 3: through the image. It's so easy to follow, but it's
Speaker 3: a whole different way of looking at water. This is
Speaker 3: water consciousness.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, hey, like I think I brought up
Speaker 1: this before. When when you contact the r the archangel
Speaker 1: Gabriel you know you do it through water hydromancy? You
Speaker 1: know this? This is uh, this is written about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does go with the element of water too.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: He does? He is associated with the element of water.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, just like the direction that he would be on,
Speaker 4: Like if I did the Lesser Banishing Ritual and the pentagram,
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that whatever direction he would be when
Speaker 4: I would call him would be the element of water
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: I think that's the is that at the top.
Speaker 4: Of Raphael and uh I think Gabrielle would.
Speaker 1: Be No, is that a solemon magic?
Speaker 2: Oh? The less a banishing ritual? The pentagram?
Speaker 1: Uh, Nick, I don't know what that is. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: you can tell me what it is. Yeah, I'm always,
Speaker 1: I'm always, you know, I like to Uh, it's hard.
Speaker 3: To describe it unless you're doing it, Like, what's that
Speaker 3: man in your mind that you can just pull it
Speaker 3: out like.
Speaker 1: We're going to learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was gonna pull it up and I
Speaker 2: was gonna go over it real quick.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go ahead and I'll look it over it.
Speaker 3: Okay. So a lot of this this book is talking
Speaker 3: about how radiation energy is what charges the water, right,
Speaker 3: radiation energy of heat, so thermal heat and light is
Speaker 3: what causes these charged areas of water to expand. So
Speaker 3: in the orphic hymn to Helios, they call him lover
Speaker 3: of the stream, Lover of the stream. The Sun loves
Speaker 3: the stream. What exactly does that mean? It kind of
Speaker 3: makes sense, but you know, it's it's hard to say
Speaker 3: why why does the sun Helios love the stream? And
Speaker 3: in my research here it kind of answers that question.
Speaker 3: Is because the stream is absorbing these electrons and separating
Speaker 3: out and creating these charged, structured areas based upon simply
Speaker 3: the radiation from the sun. So we think of, you know,
Speaker 3: chloroform or chlorophyll as being the powerhouse of these plants,
Speaker 3: but really it comes down to the water before you're
Speaker 3: ever talking about chlorophyll, because all of the stuff that's
Speaker 3: moving inside of you know, these water filled bodies, we're
Speaker 3: all sort of water computers. Everything has to do with
Speaker 3: the charged essence of this easy zone, right, So he
Speaker 3: demonstrated these nafon tubes having a certain charge can push
Speaker 3: the water through them. So when you're talking about these
Speaker 3: plants bringing water up from their roots into the leaves,
Speaker 3: that's done through the process of this. You know, this
Speaker 3: fourth phase of water. It's essential to life and it's
Speaker 3: hardly ever studied. But you know that's it doesn't have
Speaker 3: to stay that way, right, We could all sort of
Speaker 3: pick up this book and start to understand the conscious
Speaker 3: level of water that seems to permeate all parts of
Speaker 3: our existence.
Speaker 1: Does it teach how it kind of correlates with the
Speaker 1: moon and stuff?
Speaker 3: Now he doesn't get into that, he's just talking about
Speaker 3: the sun and waters that aspect.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know people kind of wonder why they feel
Speaker 1: weird during certain moon phases, and it's like, well, we're
Speaker 1: made up of water, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Why is the moon cooler? What effect does that have
Speaker 3: on the waters? Are we actually doing any testing lunar
Speaker 3: testing with the water as opposed to the thermal testing
Speaker 3: with the water. I don't think that's been done before.
Speaker 3: So there's a whole other aspect of water that's not
Speaker 3: even covered in this book because he's just focused on
Speaker 3: what he's discovered about it, which is that, you know,
Speaker 3: once you get this thermal energies coming into the water,
Speaker 3: these easy zones expand. Actually, Victor Schauberger too, he talks
Speaker 3: about the carrying temperature of water, and he's determined that
Speaker 3: the maximum carrying temperature of water is thirty five degrees
Speaker 3: and thirty five degrees just you know, a few degrees
Speaker 3: above the cooling or the freezing point is actually when
Speaker 3: you get the most flow activity coming from the water
Speaker 3: because it hasn't expanded receiving all that thermal energy from
Speaker 3: the sun. So the best way to start transporting logs
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to transport is to keep that
Speaker 3: water as close to freezing as possible. Well, what do
Speaker 3: we see with these thermal inclines in the water. It's
Speaker 3: the it's the cold water coming up from the bottom
Speaker 3: that has all of these fish in it. Right. This
Speaker 3: is what all of these you know, creatures are looking for,
Speaker 3: is this massive upspurt of cold water from the bottom
Speaker 3: of the ocean, Like that is where all the food is,
Speaker 3: That's where the carrying capacity of the oceans. Is is
Speaker 3: once you've got this, you know, massive cold water coming
Speaker 3: up from the bottom, that's the feeding frenzy. So it's
Speaker 3: sort of the reverse of what we think on the surface,
Speaker 3: where all of the life sort of gravitates towards the
Speaker 3: heat in the water. It would be kind of the opposite.
Speaker 3: It's like all of the life is gravitating towards the cold. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know, once the water starts heating up, it
Speaker 3: flows at a lower rate. So forty degree water has
Speaker 3: a lower carrying capacity than thirty five degree water. Thirty
Speaker 3: five degree water is the maximum flow potential of whatever
Speaker 3: water source you're dealing with, which is I think it's
Speaker 3: it's useful information if you're trying to build a log flume,
Speaker 3: which is what you know Victor Schauberger specialized in for
Speaker 3: an years. But you know, there's all sorts of other things,
Speaker 3: like if you're doing plumbing, you want to keep that
Speaker 3: water as close to cold freezing as possible so that
Speaker 3: you can get as much of it through those tubes
Speaker 3: as possible. So if you're talking about you know, massive
Speaker 3: dams and stuff, you don't want to have hot water
Speaker 3: in there sort of blocking up the flow something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not an engineer. I just know
Speaker 3: that this stuff is useful data that's not being looked
Speaker 3: at anymore. So Victor Schauberger and the fourth phase of water.
Speaker 1: I don't think gets Yeah, I don't think that we
Speaker 1: give water the credit that it really deserves. Dude, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a fascinating.
Speaker 2: Uh story for availement.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, man, I mean it holds memory it
Speaker 1: Uh you know you can. I mean it vibrates at
Speaker 1: certain frequencies, and it can hold images when you freeze
Speaker 1: it after that frequency or like you know, you've heard
Speaker 1: of people speaking to why, well, this is the same
Speaker 1: plants speaking to plants in water, and like off what
Speaker 1: they say that if they speak anything positive, it'll make
Speaker 1: it grow or it'll make something beautiful kind of form
Speaker 1: in the ice. But if you say something negative, even
Speaker 1: if you just don't do anything at all, I think,
Speaker 1: don't say anything at all, it'll still kind of like
Speaker 1: die away, become like real ugly and well.
Speaker 3: Beta Austin Veda. Austin is trying to get a complete
Speaker 3: compendium of water glyphs, right, so, as you were talking
Speaker 3: about with the ice, she's found that there are certain
Speaker 3: phrases that translate into images she doesn't immediately understand in
Speaker 3: the ice, but it repeats. So if you're talking about
Speaker 3: certain things to the ice before well, to the water
Speaker 3: before you freeze it, you are going to start to
Speaker 3: see certain glyphs appear over time. So these water glyphs
Speaker 3: are like the basis of language, the basis of the alphabet.
Speaker 3: And so as she's sort of photographing these things that
Speaker 3: pop up again and again and again with other concepts,
Speaker 3: she's almost mapping the language of water itself, which I
Speaker 3: think is really cool project.
Speaker 1: Absolutely looking for something real fast if I'll want to
Speaker 1: keep going on the subject, I'm trying to find this
Speaker 1: one picture. Well, what Nick was saying.
Speaker 3: All spirits are said to not pass over flowing bodies
Speaker 3: of water. This is a thing you find in a
Speaker 3: para parapsychology too. It's like, if you're going to try
Speaker 3: and get away from these hitchhikers, your best bet is
Speaker 3: to go over a bridge or move over flowing water
Speaker 3: so that whatever ghost is haunting you stops following you.
Speaker 3: Something interesting about that, what's the energy field that stops
Speaker 3: this spirit from passing over flowing bodies of water.
Speaker 2: It condensates into the water.
Speaker 3: Could be think about all of these projections or these
Speaker 3: spirits that you see in full body apparitions. Could that
Speaker 3: be the result of mist that's existing in that space right,
Speaker 3: because it kind of looks like a three D image,
Speaker 3: And if it's projected or you know, recepted on the
Speaker 3: water of the spirit. It kind of makes sense because
Speaker 3: we're talking about all of these water glyphs and the
Speaker 3: Veda Austin seeing these images in ice. Why wouldn't that
Speaker 3: work the same with human consciousness that hasn't fully passed
Speaker 3: on yet it's manifesting in the water again.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 4: Frank said, water appears to be extremely bright to rabies victims,
Speaker 4: like it's water on fire.
Speaker 1: Hey, I think if you look at the pentacle nick,
Speaker 1: water would be on like if you're looking at me
Speaker 1: as a man.
Speaker 2: Water oh yeah right here, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Facing eastman, if you're looking at it, I think maybe
Speaker 1: on your right side right or I don't know.
Speaker 2: I never man, but actually yeah, if you if you
Speaker 2: want to, if you're in.
Speaker 1: There and you know, trying to get a mental image
Speaker 1: of it, I'm never in a.
Speaker 4: H if you want I could try to, like I
Speaker 4: guess I'll go into that just real quick where I
Speaker 4: was trying to explain with that he fomo, but the
Speaker 4: the un less a banishing ritual and the pentagram, it's uh,
Speaker 4: you're gonna use that to If you just use it
Speaker 4: just a basic l B r P, you're just basically
Speaker 4: removing all elemental and earthly influences and that's it. You
Speaker 4: start off facing the east and you do the cabalistic cross.
Speaker 4: You touch your forehead. Yeah, you go malkuth vegaboradula, lay
Speaker 4: amen and clamp your hands closed and then uh, and
Speaker 4: then you will draw a pentagram in the east and
Speaker 4: charge it, and then you'll turn charge the one to
Speaker 4: h east Jesus Christ south. Yeah, right uh, and then
Speaker 4: then behind you you'd end up doing it your goal
Speaker 4: four corners. You're gonna do a pentagram. You're gonna charge
Speaker 4: it with a specific god name that's associated.
Speaker 2: With that corner, and then in the middle of it.
Speaker 4: Then when you're done doing all that, you'll stand in
Speaker 4: the middle of it and you'll face east and you'll
Speaker 4: say before me Raphael, which would be to the east,
Speaker 4: and that would be air and he's associated with air.
Speaker 4: And then you'd say behind me Gabriel, and the Gabriel
Speaker 4: would be behind you know, behind me, which would be
Speaker 4: the element of water would be behind me as well.
Speaker 4: That's where I was getting at. Gabriel's even associated with
Speaker 4: water in the RBOP. And then on my right hand,
Speaker 4: which would be fire Mickey l and then on my
Speaker 4: left hand would be earth that would be.
Speaker 1: Oreole real yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 4: Call all them and then you say for about me
Speaker 4: flames the pentagram, and then the column stands the sixth
Speaker 4: orra ade star, and then you do the capitalist across
Speaker 4: again and it's over. It's like very short and to
Speaker 4: the point.
Speaker 1: Actually fascinating. Yeah, fascinating, And that's an oto things.
Speaker 2: That came from.
Speaker 4: Uh see, that's the thing that I was even ain't
Speaker 4: a GREYHRN pagan show today, not that I'm against.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he had me on today.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, dude, shut out time, man. I have to
Speaker 1: get him to come back on talk about runic magic
Speaker 1: and the odentic mysteries. Man, we got a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, see, like there was a lot of things.
Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to say it, even with seven
Speaker 4: seven seven Ike Baker even said it on the show
Speaker 4: a lot of that Crowley already had taken from work
Speaker 4: that was already done from the Golden Down. Those rituals
Speaker 4: that like the LBRP and the Hexagram ritual that he
Speaker 4: released in Libra, oh, those came from the Golden Down.
Speaker 2: Those are not his at all technically. And I again,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to like church this guy up.
Speaker 4: But when he first came out and released all that stuff,
Speaker 4: that was his way of saying, fuck all of yous,
Speaker 4: not just the rich people should be allowed to use
Speaker 4: this stuff. It's for everybody. He technically was kind of
Speaker 4: being now like a whistleblower, but kind of being.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, before the elites took it over.
Speaker 4: Specifically, I think even mentioned in some of his that
Speaker 4: it was not just for the elites. It should be
Speaker 4: you know, he even specifies magic, ethery and practice.
Speaker 2: He's still hard as fuck to read. He's like a
Speaker 2: shoe salesman. Should be able to understand this.
Speaker 1: You know, we had that on the book for ebr
Speaker 1: or on on the list on the book list for
Speaker 1: ebr Man. Uh so maybe we'll land on it.
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, so he didn't. He didn't write that.
Speaker 4: I wrote long story short. No, he didn't know that's
Speaker 4: not one.
Speaker 2: He did do the star Ruby, the regular uh star Sapphire.
Speaker 2: It was his.
Speaker 3: Now a lot of magicians have have, well a few
Speaker 3: of them have discussed the idea that maybe it's a
Speaker 3: bad idea to banish all of these different spirits. So,
Speaker 3: like we're talking about before, like all of these oceanids
Speaker 3: would be kind of these you know, water type spirits,
Speaker 3: and a lot of them are actually beneficial, and when
Speaker 3: you're banishing, you're getting rid of all of the beneficial
Speaker 3: as well as all of the negative too. So do
Speaker 3: you really want to be it's like gut flora. Do
Speaker 3: you really want to take antibiotics and kill off all
Speaker 3: of your gut flora every single time you get sick?
Speaker 3: Because that could be a bad.
Speaker 1: Thing in a long run, a very bad thing.
Speaker 4: It was at one point, because you know, I do
Speaker 4: agree with you say it, I got into the Greater
Speaker 4: uh hexagrad know, the Greater Pentagram Pentagram ritual, and that
Speaker 4: one you'll start deciding which ones you want to open
Speaker 4: to close to even deal with which one's either you
Speaker 4: can invoke a banish like you can start choosing and
Speaker 4: not actually do it to everyone.
Speaker 2: And that one's like even a little bit more drawn out.
Speaker 4: You get to act like you're opening up a portal
Speaker 4: and closing like you know, it's just so much more
Speaker 4: dramatic and cool looking.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of this comes from the
Speaker 3: idea that all actions come from thoughts, and so if
Speaker 3: you're able to banish out the thoughts that are sort
Speaker 3: of crowding in your mind, that's how you come upon
Speaker 3: new thoughts and focus on new new things. But like
Speaker 3: Crowley saying, if it's only the elites that can control
Speaker 3: their thoughts, what does that mean for everybody else?
Speaker 1: Yeah, why can't we control our thoughts? You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, narratives that we've got to keep in mind.
Speaker 1: Well, it's the intention behind everything, guys, behind these symbols,
Speaker 1: behind your prayer, behind your meditation, your you know, your
Speaker 1: your will. Uh, it's intention and your perception of reality. Yes, Mac,
Speaker 1: we all, we all know this. And he liked to
Speaker 1: give it to people. People take it in And was
Speaker 1: going to say he was pitching and catching man. He was,
Speaker 1: he had to get both ends, he was. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm still reading the book on him by William Ramsay.
Speaker 2: A perfect, perfect person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, need to dude, I have to have so many.
Speaker 2: You know, if it wasn't for fucking Alison Crowley, what
Speaker 2: would I have to read?
Speaker 4: Well, dude, I mean some people wouldn't have much to
Speaker 4: talk about it, much to write about.
Speaker 2: H much to sell if it wasn't for that guy.
Speaker 1: You're right, man, No, you're absolutely you know, one of
Speaker 1: those you could say, like a necessary evil in a
Speaker 1: way as far as uh for researchers and people who
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: Straight up, if we removed these three topics Alosta Crowley,
Speaker 4: Michael Aquino in the processed Church, about sixty percent of
Speaker 4: the people we know would have zero fucking shit to
Speaker 4: talk about. I think you're right, because that's the only
Speaker 4: three trick pony they know of As well as.
Speaker 1: The information that's out there, there would be barely anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, connects to each other, and so that's how
Speaker 1: you figure out about something else most of the time
Speaker 1: for me, at least now in the past. You know,
Speaker 1: I do research in the past, and I still do research,
Speaker 1: but now stuff just kind of clicks for me, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, let me go back and
Speaker 1: look at what I was just looking at, and you know,
Speaker 1: learn stuff every day, the old gaze. I don't know, Maddie.
Speaker 4: You know what it sucks about that is like you
Speaker 4: just gonna keep it real like with a queeno. I
Speaker 4: do think that guy did some fucked up shit, it's
Speaker 4: quite obvious, but a lot of the information about him
Speaker 4: was released from the government, right. And put it this way,
Speaker 4: when you have people who can't keep his name out
Speaker 4: his mouth out their mounts, he's going to remain a god,
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if it's a good reason or a bad reason.
Speaker 4: And I guarantee you you stand up on your soapbox
Speaker 4: and bitch about this guy. Out of to one hundred people,
Speaker 4: ten of them afterwards might actually be like, oh, let
Speaker 4: me go see what this dude was talking about, and
Speaker 4: it's still gonna fucking lead them to his shit. So
Speaker 4: if you actually want to stop that occultist from being popular,
Speaker 4: shut the fuck up already about him every day, Yeah,
Speaker 4: repeating his name, repeating Baiale and all these other names
Speaker 4: people just parrot because they want to talk about Satan.
Speaker 4: You're all the one keeping these motherfuckers alive. Right, we
Speaker 4: don't even hear us talking about him, for fuck sakes.
Speaker 1: You had a point, Nick Well, I try to get
Speaker 1: into That's why I try to get into the mystery
Speaker 1: schools and get into what you can do positively with
Speaker 1: some of this esoteric knowledge. And you know not, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't really talk about ceremonial magic or divination or anything.
Speaker 1: You know, I have people on to talk about it.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys talk about it all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't. I find stuff fascinating. I love learning about it.
Speaker 1: But you know, I get into you know, the mystery schools,
Speaker 1: the original I try to find the original meaning of things, right.
Speaker 1: And I think that's very important because I think a lot,
Speaker 1: especially symbolism, has been subverted so much. And you know
Speaker 1: that's how people perceive it, right. All this stuff is evil,
Speaker 1: you know, beating a dead horse. But Nick says it
Speaker 1: all the time. Dixon demons, you know, Dixon demons that
Speaker 1: you gotta put that on the shirt or something. We
Speaker 1: got to get some we may do something with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have to do something with that. I think I'm
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Speaker 2: And uh you know, takes some demons, which one you
Speaker 2: want inside you?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 3: Well, now that's actually an interesting point because you were
Speaker 3: talking about Michael Akeno, but hardly anybody mentions Colonel Paul Valley,
Speaker 3: who is Michael Akeno's co author of the book uh
Speaker 3: Psia Mind War and he became a uh founding contributor
Speaker 3: to the the TPUs A. So are you guys steered
Speaker 3: around by your your nose here because you know it's
Speaker 3: forty five years of uh Satanic panic? Are you guys
Speaker 3: buying into it? Because this is on one side you've
Speaker 3: got Paul Valley, tp U s A. And on the
Speaker 3: other side you've got Templa SAT, Michael Aketo, and they
Speaker 3: seem the beginning along just fine.
Speaker 4: People talking about Michael Aquino while you know the guy
Speaker 4: of syops. Right, we literally have podcasters in this community
Speaker 4: that openly admit that they worked for a dude that,
Speaker 4: if you look into him, was a social media syop.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: I don't believe you actually quit, bro, You didn't stop
Speaker 4: working for the CIA.
Speaker 2: You still are.
Speaker 4: You know that shit goes on, but people want to
Speaker 4: talk about other shit. That's it doesn't mean anything. No,
Speaker 4: I'm being serious. I'll talk to you after the show.
Speaker 4: There's somebody who legit is in the podcasting community that
Speaker 4: openly admits they used to work for the CIA, and
Speaker 4: when you look up the motherfucker's name that he used
Speaker 4: to work for the guys in charge of social media syops.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker, you never quit. This is your job.
Speaker 4: That's why the first fucking show you showed up on
Speaker 4: is gigantic because you're fucking placed in here.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people think a lot of people
Speaker 3: prob a lot of people think that there there's this
Speaker 3: defined line of how you can tell one person is
Speaker 3: bad and one person is good. But really it all
Speaker 3: comes down to timing, because they could be saying the
Speaker 3: right thing over and over and over again and gain
Speaker 3: your trust, and then at the right moment they can
Speaker 3: just turn that back around on you and you'll never
Speaker 3: see it coming because they've established a trust.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, there's a lot coming out about TPUSA lately. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you got Candas Owens being the head hauncho on
Speaker 1: on that and so you know, she controls the information
Speaker 1: that people get to see.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: They don't get to read about her at all. Do
Speaker 1: They are figuring out a very strange past as well
Speaker 1: if you read into her father and what he did
Speaker 1: and where he was at her father in law.
Speaker 4: Yo, I take her to be in the Number one podcast.
Speaker 4: And Joe Rogan, though I hate to say.
Speaker 1: He worked for a company that was in charge of
Speaker 1: security of rhymes with Handy Snook and uh yeah, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was in charge of the fire alarms and then
Speaker 1: the locks and yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Guys. They didn't have any courtship, just introduced to each
Speaker 3: other and then immediately got married. What does that sound like?
Speaker 1: They got married eighteen days or something. Are you talking
Speaker 1: about her and her husband? Yeah? Yeah, And somebody said
Speaker 1: he's a Knight of Malta. Absolutely, dude. People are always
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, don't you know, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: it is it is the Jays, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: also these other these other groups, the Knights of Malta.
Speaker 1: There may be more every group's got behind Trump than
Speaker 1: you know, these crazy rabbis, right, I don't know. But
Speaker 1: here's here's the thing.
Speaker 3: This is what I was trying to say earlier. So
Speaker 3: if Candice Owen's is saying all the right things, now,
Speaker 3: when is it most advantageous for her to flip and
Speaker 3: take all those sheet back into the pen. Because if
Speaker 3: that's the case, that's what you need to be looking
Speaker 3: out for, you know. Don't betray your own mind, don't
Speaker 3: portray your own sovereignty just because there's a media personality
Speaker 3: telling you all the right things at the right right
Speaker 3: time for them to say it. Yeah, this is why
Speaker 3: they worship the cronos cube. It's all about timing. It's
Speaker 3: all about.
Speaker 1: Timing, yeah, dude, their prophecy. Dude. Yeah, my wife was
Speaker 1: showing me the clip of Adam King on Timpoole with
Speaker 1: with the ashes for for you know from h where
Speaker 1: they're the Red Heifers, and and my wife is just
Speaker 1: in disbelief. Like I told you, they want to bring
Speaker 1: around the end of the world. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a death cult. And so well they get like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a dime bag of these ashes. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like you're yeah, you're peddling, like you know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's so just it's grilly. Uh, I can't stand that guy, but.
Speaker 3: Well you're not alone. But uh, A lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of this comes down to timing. And what we're
Speaker 3: saying now is it seems like they're making all the
Speaker 3: wrong moves. God, it's at all the right times, like
Speaker 3: especially what happened in Australia recently, perfect timing, perfect timing
Speaker 3: happen in Australia.
Speaker 4: Oh yo, that was insane. Yeah, those motherfucker's bucking off
Speaker 4: shots forever with something with that. I watched a ten
Speaker 4: minute clip of this. I was like, Yo, the fucking
Speaker 4: cops haven't shown up. Like when it's always crazy, it's
Speaker 4: it's the.
Speaker 3: Video that I'm watching.
Speaker 4: It's this whole open sorry with these two dudes, all right,
Speaker 4: you're just like waiting for a cop car to show
Speaker 4: up and just shoot.
Speaker 2: Them right there, and what the.
Speaker 3: Guns just yeah, they killed about eleven people on the beach. No,
Speaker 3: they were Muslims from Pakistan. What do you know?
Speaker 4: And support one Muslim guy actually disa one of them, right.
Speaker 3: There was one of the one guy he sees it happening.
Speaker 3: He comes up and he rips the rifle out of
Speaker 3: his gun, aims it at the guy. He doesn't actually shoot.
Speaker 4: I would have shocked him on the fu Yeah, right
Speaker 4: right in the leg, right in the leg of the
Speaker 4: stomach at least.
Speaker 1: Incredible shot.
Speaker 3: They start talking before he could disappear.
Speaker 1: You know, they should probably let more than an end
Speaker 1: to their country, you know that's probably the best solution.
Speaker 3: Well, they've actually started already calling these people far right Muslims.
Speaker 3: Now they're far right. You see exactly the proach they're
Speaker 3: gonna say they're far right. They'll start calling them and
Speaker 3: then they're just gonna call them far right, and.
Speaker 4: Yo, you know what, sick fucking ship. And Yaho's already
Speaker 4: fucking saying out there. Because of Australia not being hard
Speaker 4: enough on anti Semitism, this has happened now right, And
Speaker 4: it's almost like he's telling them you better get your
Speaker 4: shit together with Anti semon Is, Anti whatever, or we're
Speaker 4: gonna have a problem with you now too.
Speaker 2: It was almost to that extent. I'm like, Yo, somebody
Speaker 2: needs to kill this motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Over oh fucking real man, So I'll put a bullet
Speaker 4: in his head.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. It's like, you're supposed to feel
Speaker 3: that way. That's the character he's playing. He sees it.
Speaker 1: I feel you did you see the the.
Speaker 4: Worry about shooting Trump and the well that was fake anyway,
Speaker 4: but like, fuckly.
Speaker 3: Did you see the book that he was carrying under
Speaker 3: his arm? Rome versus Israel? Right, he said we lost
Speaker 3: the first time, We're not gonna lose the second time.
Speaker 3: He's talking about going to war with Rome. Well, who
Speaker 3: the hell does he think Rome is?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well who do other people think Rome is? You know,
Speaker 1: they're like, no, that's Rome. It's like, no, it's us,
Speaker 1: Like we are dam to them. Like that may not
Speaker 1: be how you view it, you know, but like that's
Speaker 1: what they say. And they wrote the prophecy, so you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, Like they want
Speaker 1: to kill us, right, we are amlet or whatever. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that goes into something completely different.
Speaker 3: But this is a burning hatred that's been there for
Speaker 3: two thousand years, and he's playing the role right now
Speaker 3: of getting everybody upset at him so that he can
Speaker 3: have more troops. The rest of the world is like, hey,
Speaker 3: there's so much anti Semitism, I'm going back to Israel,
Speaker 3: and as soon as they do that, he's got more troops.
Speaker 3: That's why he's doing it. That's why he's being obnoxious,
Speaker 3: that's why he's saying all of this shit out in public.
Speaker 4: I normally don't let this shit get to me, but
Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, this motherfuck is sick. Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: I mean I could give two flying focks about both
Speaker 4: of the religions and they're still Whatever I think he's
Speaker 4: doing over there is gone way beyond you.
Speaker 2: Know what's even there.
Speaker 4: You know, when I saw the bulldozers next to the
Speaker 4: tanks on day three, I knew what the fuck was up?
Speaker 2: This is Bill back better.
Speaker 1: Well, dude, they they did. That whole operation was massade. Dude.
Speaker 1: Like people want to say, you know, oh, those hamasters,
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, that's idf soldiers, bro.
Speaker 4: That was that was a fucking Israeli with a people.
Speaker 1: Who trained them. So it's like, you know what, what
Speaker 1: the what the fuck are you talking about? I don't
Speaker 1: know how people don't see that by now that it's
Speaker 1: all a big you know, it's a big show, and
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: It's it makes sense why they would fall for the
Speaker 3: SIA because on the line, you know, like what else
Speaker 3: can you do in that situation? You either die, you know,
Speaker 3: with your your hands on your head, or you die
Speaker 3: with a rifle in your hands. What should you prefer?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So I understand why they would fall for the SIA.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's like, guys, we don't
Speaker 3: have to fall for it. It's not on our shores yet.
Speaker 3: We could keep that out out you just have to
Speaker 3: be smart about it, and we're not doing that at all.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's like the fucking Jewish Hitler. Now, what the fuck happened?
Speaker 4: Like what the you know what I'm saying like.
Speaker 1: Us three years Yeah, that's wild, dude, It's fucking wild.
Speaker 1: Everything that's happened, just the whole the entire paradigm, the
Speaker 1: entire paradigm shift of it in itself. It uh it's wild.
Speaker 1: It happened pretty fast, to be quite honest with you.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Uh, you still got a lot
Speaker 1: of people that are that just you know, they they
Speaker 1: they either don't know or they they know and they
Speaker 1: just willingly you know. They they like their shitty job,
Speaker 1: they like their fast food, they like their fucking Netflix
Speaker 1: and goy Ball and uh, you know, all all that
Speaker 1: fun stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Kevin Williams Evan Williams on X, you got
Speaker 3: to follow that account if you're in a really heavy satire.
Speaker 3: He's a he's a great follow. He's definitely uh his
Speaker 3: ally slop has really helped us out mentally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so is there anything else on uh the
Speaker 1: Nearids or the oceanis well.
Speaker 3: If you want to talk a little bit about possession
Speaker 3: and possession by these entities, I think that would be
Speaker 3: interesting as well, because there's a lot of these ce
Speaker 3: demons that pop up again and again when it comes
Speaker 3: to possessions, and if you think about it, they have
Speaker 3: the least in common with you know, surface Dwell, so
Speaker 3: you've got the great or the what are they called,
Speaker 3: the you know, the Cathonic deities, the cthulhu for example,
Speaker 3: These agent deities of the Abyss are always associated with water,
Speaker 3: you know, and they're rising up from water. And you know,
Speaker 3: we've got these blips that we see popping up on
Speaker 3: the coast of Africa that is like the most massive
Speaker 3: sea creature even involvement like miles and miles long. And
Speaker 3: we have no idea what any of this stuff is.
Speaker 3: So if there's a spiritual dimension to any of that stuff,
Speaker 3: maybe we haven't even seen the start of it. But
Speaker 3: if things get too chaotic here on Earth, I think
Speaker 3: that's going to be something that we see popping up.
Speaker 3: Is the spirit associated with the sea having some kind
Speaker 3: of an impact on life on Earth. I mean, what
Speaker 3: do they talk about when it comes to what was
Speaker 3: it called the the big comet that's supposed to strike
Speaker 3: the world and turn everything all the seas to blood? Right, Like,
Speaker 3: there's this idea that maybe we're sitting on top of
Speaker 3: an impending disaster associated with the sea that we're not
Speaker 3: really aware of, but somehow the whole thing can turn
Speaker 3: to blood. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ocean is a very mystifying place, like I said,
Speaker 1: one of the most unexport place on this planet. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, they tell us to look
Speaker 1: up and look to the sky and all that. But
Speaker 1: really I think we should look at what's under the
Speaker 1: oceans and in these caves that are inside of the Earth,
Speaker 1: because I think these cave systems go real deep inside
Speaker 1: the Earth and they open up into continent sized spaces.
Speaker 1: And in those continent sized spaces are you know, ecosystems, right,
Speaker 1: parallel societies and yeah, dude, other creatures in I think
Speaker 1: beings and uh you know, they live on a completely
Speaker 1: different frequency because they're inside of the Earth. So maybe
Speaker 1: they look differently. Maybe they're bigger, they're taller, different color.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, but that's that's what I think. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe in uh, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if space is faking gay. I I do believe
Speaker 1: in the US the cosmology stuff, you know, the the
Speaker 1: astro theology and all that, you know as above so
Speaker 1: below what happens in heaven happens on our microcosm macrocosm,
Speaker 1: so you know, there is something above us. I just
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't been up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, next time on on the Rustic Gods, we can
Speaker 3: cover some of the underworld spirits. Since we've done the
Speaker 3: uh the kind of dry ads of the upper world, spirits,
Speaker 3: and there's a whole underworld.
Speaker 1: You're dude, this is a great uh Like, this is
Speaker 1: a great pivot into that from this because you're talking
Speaker 1: about these water nymphs, Lilith or Elite to the the
Speaker 1: daughter of Erishkagal Andrgol, who is the king of the
Speaker 1: underworld in ancient Mesopotamia. You know this is this was Adapa,
Speaker 1: I think it was a Dapa, his second wife, who
Speaker 1: they basically arranged to Mary because he was he was
Speaker 1: a Sumerian king, you know, but he was also like
Speaker 1: a fisherman and stuff like that, so you'd see a
Speaker 1: lot of uh see symbolism with him as well. So
Speaker 1: it goes right into it, yeah, into the underworld, the
Speaker 1: ab zoo as they call it there. But you know,
Speaker 1: you talk about hades, you know, this Isrgoll, Mott, Anubis,
Speaker 1: There's a lot of names. So it would be fun
Speaker 1: to get into something a little different, right.
Speaker 3: And it can bring up up some of the positive
Speaker 3: aspects of the underworld, which I don't think anybody goes into. Really.
Speaker 3: It's like everything under the ground is evil, but at
Speaker 3: the same time that's the source of all wealth, right,
Speaker 3: This is where we pull out all of our valuable
Speaker 3: minerals and gemstones. And that's why they call Pluto or
Speaker 3: haites Pluto is because he's the source of all wealth.
Speaker 3: So at the same time that you're cursing the underworld,
Speaker 3: you're having to interact with it to pull out all
Speaker 3: of these valuable resources that now get used in all
Speaker 3: this other stuff. So in essence, we're surrounded by the underworld.
Speaker 3: We've built ourselves cages made out of the underworld.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we have. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: have done that. They've created their own hell for themselves.
Speaker 1: You know, there's that theory of that we're on the
Speaker 1: lowest level of heaven, highest level of Hell and that
Speaker 1: whole thing.
Speaker 3: But physically, I mean where we get a metals from.
Speaker 1: But it's very interesting.
Speaker 3: We get all the steel from inside the earth and
Speaker 3: then we build massive cages out of them, and that's
Speaker 3: literally a cage from Hell. But it's it's sort of
Speaker 3: on the same level that Solomon used all of those
Speaker 3: demons in his spell work to build a temple. Right,
Speaker 3: there's this constant idea of push pull with the earth
Speaker 3: and how these you know, different spirits manifest within the
Speaker 3: physical matter. And I think that's a very interesting thing
Speaker 3: to get into because you know, underworld spirits get a
Speaker 3: lot of shit. But what are we made out of?
Speaker 3: You know, in the Greek essence, all of our bodies
Speaker 3: would be of titan material, right, these Titans that died
Speaker 3: in Titanomachi. But our spirits come from the divine, the
Speaker 3: upper world, right, So in that same essence where we're
Speaker 3: kind of using the underworld to build everything, and our
Speaker 3: bodies are made out of the underworld, but there's some
Speaker 3: sort of higher spiritual essence that's in it as well.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing in this Spotamia, you know, whenever
Speaker 1: Inky's down there doing his thing with you know, his
Speaker 1: DNA genetic manipulation and and uh you know, our essence,
Speaker 1: our spirit comes from the Creator, right, But you know
Speaker 1: there's there's there's gata look into it, you know. But absolutely, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm sure this was a This was a banger of
Speaker 1: an episode. I'm sure we'll do another one of these
Speaker 1: this next week. Guys. We're getting close to the holidays,
Speaker 1: to Christmas or you'll Winter Solstice, whatever you celebrate. But
Speaker 1: uh so, I don't know, I'm sure we'll be able
Speaker 1: to do another one of these before, but I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, before the end of the year, that is.
Speaker 1: But is there anything else?
Speaker 3: Guys? Check out my show. We did a great episode
Speaker 3: with mattin Dave doing a recap of what we saw
Speaker 3: out in Phoenix.
Speaker 1: I saw that earlier.
Speaker 2: Head. Did you restream that? No?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I did.
Speaker 3: Actually, restream is so easy. All you got to do
Speaker 3: is click one button and it's all.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know he was giving us that option.
Speaker 3: I think it's it comes down. They just asked me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I'll do that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, I would have streamed that out on
Speaker 2: my end. I didn't know that. Would you all use
Speaker 2: he used restream? I just reached it.
Speaker 1: I went on docs podcast last night. He had riverside,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't go live to anything. But uh, guys,
Speaker 1: I'll post that on the Patreon. The episode on Prometheus
Speaker 1: Lynn's podcast. It's a banger. So I'll put that on
Speaker 1: on the Patreon for you guys. I'll try to do
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Speaker 2: People definitely check out that dude's Patreon. He puts a
Speaker 2: lot out on Patreon.
Speaker 1: Has been at stream live by the way he does. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm going on his show tomorrow night. I think broadcasting.
Speaker 1: See oh nice, So maybe he'll stream it live. Maybe not,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll let me. I don't know, but excited about that.
Speaker 1: And then Cult of Conspiracy and I are sitting down
Speaker 1: the twenty first I think, so those are the only
Speaker 1: two shows I have scheduled besides Esotery book review and
Speaker 1: Rust at Gods. And then I really want to do
Speaker 1: an elahem Etymology soon dive back into it. We'll do
Speaker 1: part two of Ninerta and I'll do that on Patreon.
Speaker 1: We'll do that on a Sunday morning. Maybe maybe you
Speaker 1: guys want to join me. I'll bring a couple other
Speaker 1: people in as well, and y'all can just throw your
Speaker 1: two cents in on this this deity. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: know something about them the Mighty Hunter. But anyway, this
Speaker 1: was fun, guys, Oh yeah, it always this was fun.
Speaker 1: Does the occurt Rejects have any shows this week?
Speaker 2: I do? Yeah, what do we got to here? We
Speaker 2: got a hell is? You were right?
Speaker 4: I was completely wrong. I think it was because he
Speaker 4: might have asked for that day. I don't remember exactly why.
Speaker 4: But we do have well tomorrow at seven thirty, I
Speaker 4: think I'll be going live have Natalie Simerman coming back on.
Speaker 2: She went out and did one of.
Speaker 4: Her big foot hunting things recently, and I did tell
Speaker 4: her I wanted her back.
Speaker 2: On after she did it. So she's coming on tomorrow.
Speaker 4: But then Tuesday, we do have a library of the
Speaker 4: Untold and the name the topic of the I'm not
Speaker 4: exactly exactly show what it's going to be, but the
Speaker 4: name of the topic is electric stork, like the stork
Speaker 4: that brings you babies.
Speaker 2: So who knows where he's going with this, but we
Speaker 2: got that Tuesday. It's always it's always great when we
Speaker 2: have him on. It's always a fire episode. Then Wednesday
Speaker 2: night back it's been a minute for this dude.
Speaker 4: We got Mario from Symbolic Studies coming back on Wednesday night,
Speaker 4: so I should meet him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, talked a lot about him and he's come
Speaker 1: on a lot of us still, and just just let
Speaker 1: me know if there's any shows that you need me
Speaker 1: to make, dude, and I'll see if I can make them.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, they're so fucking early, that's the problem. I guess
Speaker 4: I got to trying to put them later at night
Speaker 4: actually for you. Yeah, sometimes jays get people to do
Speaker 4: nine it's unfortunately, and just keep it really like that's
Speaker 4: a little lead, you know, during the week the weekend.
Speaker 2: It's so the problem.
Speaker 1: Well as as I think I forgot to mention guys,
Speaker 1: go check out Oh fuck, never mind. I took it down,
Speaker 1: took the Esotery book review down and maybe on Headless's
Speaker 1: channel if y'all want to check it out. But we
Speaker 1: did part two of the Golden Ass and we covered
Speaker 1: uh part one of the Mysteries of the Druids and
Speaker 1: it was awesome. So if you're a Patreon memory, you
Speaker 1: can go check that out. And thank you JJ and
Speaker 1: JC for your cash App for your cash App donations.
Speaker 1: I got those after the show and didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to say thank you.
Speaker 3: Right, And you're really gonna want to check out last
Speaker 3: week's book review episode because Jewels is reading the world's
Speaker 3: first donkey show. Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, in my very smooth and sensual voice. Matthew McConaughey,
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey, Yeah, what the fun I was gonna say, Hey, not, Matthew,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of gay. I think I was a meek
Speaker 1: Matthew McConnaughey, Oh, man, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: Not gay, guys, don't worry. I got a real hot wife,
Speaker 1: even though people call me handsome, fagot and stuff. My
Speaker 1: co host for Esuitary book review, he's kay, I love
Speaker 1: you rat anyway. Anyway, anyway, I'm joking around, guys. It's fun.
Speaker 1: It's fun. But I was gonna say one more thing,
Speaker 1: uh uh oh yeah, just go go check that out.
Speaker 1: Go check that out. Fuck dude, I was going to
Speaker 1: say one more thing, but I completely forgot. All right, No,
Speaker 1: I completely forgot, but okay, all right, well uh that's it,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, y'all. I'll have a
Speaker 1: good wait guys later Stake, great build,