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<v Speaker 1>Big food and be on with Cliff and Bulbo. These

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<v Speaker 2>Five stary and.

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<v Speaker 1>Righteous to go on yesterday and listening, oh watching lin

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<v Speaker 1>always keep its watching. And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman

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<v Speaker 1>and James Boogle Fay Clifford James, Hello, Hello, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? We got a yawie hunter from Australia. We

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<v Speaker 3>got Gary Lynn joining us tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Gary, Hi, Gary, good evening, goes hey, are you surviving?

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<v Speaker 1>Plus a little bit so can't complain for.

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<v Speaker 3>The listeners we had, uh, we had Dean Harrison on here.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the head of our show, the founder of

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<v Speaker 3>our show and our research. And Gary here is one

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<v Speaker 3>of his top right hand men. Of the men in

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<v Speaker 3>the field down.

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<v Speaker 2>There, you might on the one that carries his bags

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<v Speaker 2>and helps him get up heels. He can't clowmb one himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoken like a true Australian. Yeah, yeah, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>we've been to Australia. We filmed the course finding Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>down there and one thing it's one of those stereotypes

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of hold true is Australians were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rough around the edge. Man, they're gonna mess with you

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<v Speaker 1>if they can. And I think that was a good

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<v Speaker 1>example Gary of like littling the organization's founder.

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<v Speaker 3>Good job, Well it's funny because it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right man. If if if you can't hang a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of crap on the the the layed representative of

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<v Speaker 2>the organization, and you know what, what can you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he's not even here, so let's let's let's really

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<v Speaker 1>let loose on him.

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<v Speaker 3>What brought you to the Australian A y R is

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<v Speaker 3>Australian researched us to their organization? So what probably to

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<v Speaker 3>a y R? Was it an experience or a siting

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<v Speaker 3>or just interest?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much? Well three mine is uh you know I've

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<v Speaker 2>always had look, look, look many people. I've always had

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<v Speaker 2>an interest in the subject, be paranormal or yeah, yalli,

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot at all that corner creepy spooky stuff. And it

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much started off actually involving myself in the subject

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<v Speaker 2>in a physical manner, going to certain locations where we

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<v Speaker 2>think they might be. Like myself and a friend of

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<v Speaker 2>mine who we had no idea what we're doing, just

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of no hopers with torches walk around the

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<v Speaker 2>bush at night, and the bar got set quite high

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<v Speaker 2>one night when we went to a certain location where

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<v Speaker 2>there's actually yowie crossing painted on the road, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously been signings in this area. So we thought, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the better place to go out for our first time

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<v Speaker 2>is to go out there, And that night involved lots

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<v Speaker 2>of walking around, not by us. We could hear something

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<v Speaker 2>walking around the bush up on the ridge above us,

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<v Speaker 2>and then my good friend he decided to say that

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<v Speaker 2>he could hear some possible vocalizations further, say a calumity

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<v Speaker 2>on the road a bit further. So we jump back

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<v Speaker 2>in the car. And this is the point where I

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<v Speaker 2>learned that you never ever turn the audio recording device

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<v Speaker 2>off until the night is done and dusted. So at

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<v Speaker 2>that particular time, I was using my phone as an

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<v Speaker 2>audio recorder, so I wasn't actually using a recording device.

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<v Speaker 2>So things have changed these days. So we jumped in

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<v Speaker 2>the car, I press pause and on the audio recording

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<v Speaker 2>app on the phone. We drive down the road. We

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<v Speaker 2>get out. As soon as we get out, on the

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<v Speaker 2>left hand side of this particular location where this road

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<v Speaker 2>goes through the forest, is this big wall of lantanas.

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<v Speaker 2>Lantana's a very prickly invasive vine slash bush and something

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<v Speaker 2>behind that that's wall of lantana, screamed at us. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was the loudest thing I've ever heard. I go

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<v Speaker 2>to a fairfee death millal concerts, and the sound reverberation

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<v Speaker 2>you could feel the sound waves vibrate through your chest cavity.

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<v Speaker 2>It was that loud. I'm only talking maybe twenty feet

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<v Speaker 2>away at the most. And then we sort of hung

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<v Speaker 2>around there for a bit and we proceeded to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to two other possible beings coming in from the north

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<v Speaker 2>and the northwest, until we were in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>a triangle and we basically go freaked out, jumped in

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<v Speaker 2>the car and left. And that was our first experience

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<v Speaker 2>into actually doing I wouldn't call research, to call it

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<v Speaker 2>going out and kicking around the bush with no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing. And then yeah, we did that a

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<v Speaker 2>few times. And one day I was on the way

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<v Speaker 2>home on my bike back up because I live in

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<v Speaker 2>the gold Case Hinsland up in the mountains, and coming

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<v Speaker 2>back up the mountain after a ride, and I see

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<v Speaker 2>this black car coming down the mountain and I happened

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<v Speaker 2>to catch a number plates at Yowie and I spun

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<v Speaker 2>around and chase this black car back down the mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly was I'm not too sure what he was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking with this, this guy on a high performance super

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<v Speaker 2>sport bike come up behind and reving the bike and

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<v Speaker 2>waving at him, thinking he think he's probably done something.

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<v Speaker 2>And you pulled over and we proceeded to have a

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<v Speaker 2>chat to be at that particular knot, and from there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we sort of kicked along a bit, conversations

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<v Speaker 2>here and there until I was finally able to get

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<v Speaker 2>out on my first research not with Vane, and it

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<v Speaker 2>has been an amazing roller coaster ever since.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh not actually that long ago. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like I'll mean, you know when we

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<v Speaker 2>got screamed out was probably twenty seventeen. A few other

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<v Speaker 2>experiences and getting it doing things previous to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm kind of relieved in a way as you

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<v Speaker 1>were describing to some of your earlier experiences and how

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<v Speaker 1>you got into this, that it seems that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>go about it the same way. You just basically jump

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<v Speaker 1>in and start doing it, even though you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing and kind of just learn the ropes

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<v Speaker 1>as you go. That's how most Americans, I think, do it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's certainly how I did it. We can all start

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<v Speaker 1>out with like Bobo, being an expert before you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but like for the rest of us, we just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of muddle around in the dark for it. And it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly all my log It's it's like a side of

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<v Speaker 2>people will told me when you when you're driving around

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<v Speaker 2>you get lost, the best best way to find it

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<v Speaker 2>where you are is to get lost. Sometimes it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>work yet, you know, for the best, but for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I almost feel bad about for the people

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<v Speaker 1>who do it any other way because I only know

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I do. And I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot, mind you, but I only know as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I do because I've made so many mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>and if those mistakes aren't yours, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel you learn as much from them. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning times, when you're learning to fly, that's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>most important time in any bigfooter or Yawi hunter's career

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<v Speaker 1>of doing that is because you get to make all

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<v Speaker 1>your own mistakes and learn from them. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>learning from a mentor, that's great, but that mentor can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. I'm going to tell you this because I

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<v Speaker 1>made my mistakes and I don't want you to make

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<v Speaker 1>the same mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think you get as much from that.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to get out there and really blow it

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you are exactly what and even for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part, it's also bad the experience and learning on

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<v Speaker 2>the job as such, even when you are out in

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<v Speaker 2>the field doing this kind of research. Yeah, as you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I look, you can go ten times in a row

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<v Speaker 2>and only one time you'll actually have some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>basing activity because unfortunately they work on their time table

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<v Speaker 2>and or their time table. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>you find new areas, you find new access points, you

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<v Speaker 2>find things you probably wouldn't wouldn't have found or come

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<v Speaker 2>across or learned if you didn't make those mistakes in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are your mistakes, and that just makes it

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<v Speaker 1>even more personal, and it gives you a better foundation

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<v Speaker 1>for later on, you know, because no one's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make cliff mistakes. That's my job and you can learn

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<v Speaker 1>from me. And that's great if they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>go through the same rigamrow and they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>make the same mistakes and learn the hard way. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is no other way to learn it. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there and make a fool yourself, say

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<v Speaker 1>things that are incorrect and public and be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff. We all do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a website, we do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we make public mistakes. I think that's an important part

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<v Speaker 1>of the growing process and frankly maturing process, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is an important aspect of this that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people to talk about for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Mat I mean, look, as you guys know, like there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's no real set way written down the book method

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<v Speaker 2>of how to do this research. Different areas require different

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<v Speaker 2>aspects of research, so you kin'dt have you can't have

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<v Speaker 2>to adapt to each particular research area you go to. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, let's say the location we're out last night,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a set protocols for that area, but if

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<v Speaker 2>we go to another location in an hour and a

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<v Speaker 2>half north, we have to we have to attack that

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<v Speaker 2>area in a different manner. So in doing so, not

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<v Speaker 2>not only progressing your research, but you're also learning as

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<v Speaker 2>you go about. You know, as you see you know

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<v Speaker 2>those mistakes, what to and what not to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>again you try to tried to progress that research in

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<v Speaker 2>as much of a positive manner as you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you just mentioned that you have different protocols for

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<v Speaker 1>different areas. Now we'll get to I wouldn't know your areas,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but some people listening might, so we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to pokey on that too hard and broad you

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<v Speaker 1>but what are some of the protocols and how do

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<v Speaker 1>they differ from protocols in other areas that when you

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<v Speaker 1>do field work, as.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys may know lock when, I'm pretty sure a

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<v Speaker 2>fair few researchers over your sort of fence do the

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<v Speaker 2>same sort of thing. So so I add nton with

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<v Speaker 2>your head lamps, a lot of the time you're using

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<v Speaker 2>red lot on your head lamp. So around base camp

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<v Speaker 2>we use we use white light basically basically because we

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<v Speaker 2>want to use base camp as an attracted area. Once

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<v Speaker 2>we leave base camp, it's either no light at all

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<v Speaker 2>or it's red light, depending on your situation. On the situation,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on the train and where exactly what you're venturing

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<v Speaker 2>off to we have found that certain beings in certain

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<v Speaker 2>areas are a bit more brazen than others. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>location last night. We have to kind of be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more stealth mode because they seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>very clued on that area. So we basically have to

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<v Speaker 2>go around as quite as we possibly can, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that we're not flashing his light around, make sure the

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<v Speaker 2>lights and the cameras are covered up, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these thermal cameras do have stand by lights and you

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<v Speaker 2>actually can see that through the bush. Certain locations further north,

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<v Speaker 2>where the areas are different, these beings are more are

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<v Speaker 2>as such, not in the sense of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they can step out and shake your hand, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't seem to be as stealthy as the beings that

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<v Speaker 2>we were that we were with the area of the

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<v Speaker 2>area that we're at last night, so that that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of area, you you actually can sit and wait out

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<v Speaker 2>in the open and make a bit more noise. So

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of just adapt to these certain areas certain methods. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>other places as well, where these beans might be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more standoffish, not so much aggressive but a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit on edge as such. So again the place

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<v Speaker 2>for it last night, we probably can walk down those

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<v Speaker 2>trails and through the bush by ourselves, but locations further north,

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<v Speaker 2>we sort of may have to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 2>go from pairs for a safety aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>From the AE that's the safety you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean like they don't

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people know the encounter that Dean had

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<v Speaker 2>many years ago a place called kil Keeven where Dean

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<v Speaker 2>got a bit too close to one's missus and he

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<v Speaker 2>paid the price for it. Likely he's here today for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, when they get a little bit too close

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<v Speaker 2>to the females, a little bit too close to the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>that then they tend to get a little bit more protective.

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<v Speaker 2>Not all time. I think it's a seasonal thing. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if there is a birthing, a possible berthing in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the area, we'll start here. Reports of juvenile sightings

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing, and also more rock thrain tends

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<v Speaker 2>to happen as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Prior to that night where you guys got the footage.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure a lot of a lot of our listeners

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<v Speaker 3>aroosed seeing that footage. I think it's the best thermal

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<v Speaker 3>footage ever gotten. Had had you seen one before that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had many experiences. I've heard them very close to

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<v Speaker 2>me again, I've been screamed at. I've heard whistles, growls,

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<v Speaker 2>pops walking, all that usual kinds of stuff very close

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<v Speaker 2>to me, around me, behind me. And previous to that

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<v Speaker 2>particular night, we were actually son below that ridgeline is

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<v Speaker 2>a dam, and we decided one not to take the

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<v Speaker 2>kayaks and clike to the very far end of his

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<v Speaker 2>dam where we think the their sort of home territory

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<v Speaker 2>home territory might be. We did so, and that night

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<v Speaker 2>involved seeing eye shine, hearing something move off, footprints found,

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<v Speaker 2>and then once we came back to the kayaks, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>back across the end of the dam and loaded the

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<v Speaker 2>kayaks back into my van. When I was laying Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Kayak into the van, I actually heard something move across

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<v Speaker 2>the road. Because with a lot of these locations in

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<v Speaker 2>these roads, these roads are going through dense forests. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a real open area. So again when I was

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<v Speaker 2>laying Mike Clake in the van across the road. I

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<v Speaker 2>could I heard something move. I didn't worry too much

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<v Speaker 2>about it. And then Dean went upload his klike and

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<v Speaker 2>he heard a bit of a grumble growl kind of noise.

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<v Speaker 2>So that sparked off a bit of a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>an investigation into the area. So we came back at

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<v Speaker 2>a later date, more so focusing on the lower side

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<v Speaker 2>in between the road and the dam. So the first

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<v Speaker 2>night that we came back and got decent, decent interaction myself,

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<v Speaker 2>Shanning Guthrie and Dean, we were at a base camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Dean went up the track to just basically sit up

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<v Speaker 2>there in the dark and you sit quietly and just

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<v Speaker 2>have listen and see what comes about. Myself and Shannon

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<v Speaker 2>state a base camp and after about half an hour

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<v Speaker 2>or so, Dean comes out of the radio and says,

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear something pushing through the bush, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>pushing through the bush down below me. He said it

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<v Speaker 2>was by a pedal, quite quite clearly, by a pedal

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<v Speaker 2>from what he could hear. So I radio threw it

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<v Speaker 2>to Dean and said, okay, well would you like would

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<v Speaker 2>you like some back up? And he said no, no, I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 2>just just just sit tight, Okay, now worries. So he

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<v Speaker 2>still came out of the radio saying, you know, reporting

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<v Speaker 2>what he can hear, he can't seeing at this particular time,

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<v Speaker 2>just just all audio. And then next thing, you know

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<v Speaker 2>this if you can, if you picture the sound of

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<v Speaker 2>when someone dives a stunt kite and a mechanical buzz.

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<v Speaker 2>Myself and Shannon heard that. We look up through the

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<v Speaker 2>tree canopy and this big black debt V flies directly

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<v Speaker 2>out of the top of us. Nobody what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>Just like if you've got to two f trucks and

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<v Speaker 2>point of them knows to nose in a V shape.

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<v Speaker 2>That's basically the size of it. No lights, nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, this mechanical humming corn of noise. It flew

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<v Speaker 2>over the top of us. And then Dean straight off that. Dean,

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<v Speaker 2>here's this being crashing through the through the valley. Blow

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<v Speaker 2>him even more. Okay, So that that situation right there

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<v Speaker 2>has this obviously a lot more excited. We came back

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<v Speaker 2>the next not the next night, but another night after that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was up on the main road while Dean

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<v Speaker 2>the other guys were down lower and I was focusing

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<v Speaker 2>more on that area directly across the road where I

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<v Speaker 2>heard that movement that night. And next thing I hear

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<v Speaker 2>like like basically a bulldozer coming down down the hill there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I pulled the therm or camera up. I see

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<v Speaker 2>this massive heats in literally coming down the hill. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell what it is. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my first time using this particular film cramera,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not quite up to date on the buttons

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<v Speaker 2>and focusing in that kind of thing. I'm still working

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<v Speaker 2>it out. And as this massive heat blob comes down

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<v Speaker 2>the hill closer towards me and then splits into two,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I realize what I'm actually looking at. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at what I believe is two yali is. One

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<v Speaker 2>splits off to the left, one splits off to the right,

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<v Speaker 2>The one I left sits down. It didn't he is

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<v Speaker 2>facing my direction, but it didn't appear to be looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me as such. I don't think he knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was there. The other one off to the right had

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<v Speaker 2>its hand on the embankment, and it was with its

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<v Speaker 2>right hand it was ripping out roots and that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing from the ground and throwing them behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>The clarity of this footage wasn't the best. Again, it

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<v Speaker 2>is my first time using this camera. I'm talking maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred feet away, so again it wasn't that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that close to really get good proper detail anyway, Uh

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<v Speaker 2>that that's that particular sorting loss for about fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>until a noise was made and then I must have

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<v Speaker 2>realized I was standing down there, and I took off.

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<v Speaker 2>We we did get some video and still fully from it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not it's not the best. It's nothing locked the

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<v Speaker 2>thermals that everyone knows about. But that rot there was my,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, introduction to a proper physical sorting.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

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<v Speaker 3>When I watched the recreations, I wasn't sure like how close,

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<v Speaker 3>like how accurate the estimations were that Dean was giving.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you guys, did you ever get back in there

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<v Speaker 3>like really measure full, like you know, get real detailed measurements.

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<v Speaker 2>As in the distance from the camera location to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like because I remember he was saying, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, about eight feet nine feet whatever some oh.

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<v Speaker 2>The height, yes, yes, so the het was actually about

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<v Speaker 2>none and nine and a half foot distance from from

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<v Speaker 2>from the camera to where I was standing was roughly

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty to fifty four feet through the thick foliage

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of thing. And again you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>those beings none nine and a half at all. And

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<v Speaker 2>I found some track impressions which measured about eighteen nineteen inches. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing castable because the terrain back there is just not

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<v Speaker 2>a castable environment. It's all leaf litter and grass and

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. But you can still quite clearly

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<v Speaker 2>see these foot impressions an inch two inches into the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, they're about eighteen nineteen inch foot impressions I speak. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was an amazing I mean, the whole thing, like

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<v Speaker 2>with the footage, it's actually about twelve minutes long, even

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<v Speaker 2>though Buck only captured I think it's sixteen seconds. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it is of them stepping out and picking up

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<v Speaker 2>or putting down whatever they may be doing. But the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing is about about twelve minutes. And at the

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<v Speaker 2>first part of it he is actually watching something off

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<v Speaker 2>to the left where he could see through the camera

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<v Speaker 2>see eye shine and see your hand around a stump,

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<v Speaker 2>so something was behind the stump and actually watching him.

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<v Speaker 2>And that it was about forty five minutes to an

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<v Speaker 2>hour later to the right where these other two being

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<v Speaker 2>stepped out and we're talking about I think the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing started about nine thirty nine. It continued on with

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<v Speaker 2>the thermal captures un till about eleven thirty, back and forth,

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth. And after that, I think it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>about two thirty where things actually started to die down.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I say died down, I don't mean stop,

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<v Speaker 2>like they stayed around camp the whole night. Myself and

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<v Speaker 2>Buck sat up while Dine in the shadow went to bed,

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<v Speaker 2>jumped in the hammocks and went to sleep. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>myself and Buck sat up on the chairs because you

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<v Speaker 2>know what we're pumped. We're we're excited, were pumped, just

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<v Speaker 2>talking and talking about the situation and the whole time

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<v Speaker 2>will sit in there. You could hear them doing laps

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<v Speaker 2>around our camp. Couldn't see them, like too far away

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<v Speaker 2>and behind too thick a foliage to be able to seening,

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<v Speaker 2>but you could hear the heavy board peter footsteps doing

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<v Speaker 2>laps around camp. We call them shotguns in the night,

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<v Speaker 2>so when they snap branches that kind of thing, see,

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<v Speaker 2>look a shotgun going off. So we could plan the

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<v Speaker 2>shotguns going off around camp all my pretty much. And

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, as you most like I saw in the video,

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<v Speaker 2>we get up the next morning and there's all these

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<v Speaker 2>these sticks that gemmed in the ground where Buck was

423
00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:19.319
<v Speaker 2>standing when he captured the thermal, and the things with

424
00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:23.359
<v Speaker 2>those sticks in the ground earlier that night, when Buck

425
00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:25.640
<v Speaker 2>was walking up and down the track, and I'd go

426
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:27.599
<v Speaker 2>up to him and we'd be both up there and

427
00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:31.720
<v Speaker 2>we change the locations, et cetera. Buck actually went further

428
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<v Speaker 2>than where he filmed those two beings, and I come

429
00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:37.480
<v Speaker 2>out of the radio and said, you know, would you

430
00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.359
<v Speaker 2>like a chair? So I grabbed a camping chair and

431
00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I walked up there. It's probably about one one hundred

432
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:46.599
<v Speaker 2>and twenty meters from camp. So I grabbed a chair

433
00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:48.839
<v Speaker 2>and walked up, and I walked straight through where those

434
00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.240
<v Speaker 2>sticks were at roughly one o'clock in the morning, and

435
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.039
<v Speaker 2>they sticks weren't there. Next, you know, five feet in

436
00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:58.759
<v Speaker 2>the morning, they sticks have been placed. But I mean

437
00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the whole sage, which was just so exciting, basically as

438
00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:08.359
<v Speaker 2>simple as that. I mean, like when when even to

439
00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the point when when these beings were done and they

440
00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>moved off. Buck was in his position. The other other

441
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:17.720
<v Speaker 2>three of us are back of camp. Buck's coming out

442
00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.079
<v Speaker 2>of the radio saying give giving his updates to what's

443
00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>going on. And I said to Buck at one stage,

444
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<v Speaker 2>would you like me to come up to your location

445
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:29.079
<v Speaker 2>and say, you know, I've got you back? Because even

446
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:33.160
<v Speaker 2>though he had these two possible three beings on one

447
00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:35.039
<v Speaker 2>side of the track, he could hear some strange noises

448
00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:38.240
<v Speaker 2>on the opposite side of the track. So I said, right, well,

449
00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:41.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll come up there and have you back if need be.

450
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:44.920
<v Speaker 2>And as soon as I left the firelight from camp,

451
00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Buck comes over the ratio stop stopsp sp stop what

452
00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:51.720
<v Speaker 2>he said? As soon as I left the firelight from camp,

453
00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:55.839
<v Speaker 2>he said, these two beings. They turned their heads, they

454
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.960
<v Speaker 2>looked at me, they looked at him, they looked at me.

455
00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.079
<v Speaker 2>And when I left camp, I left camp with with

456
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:03.200
<v Speaker 2>with with no lights nothing. I just walked into the

457
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.960
<v Speaker 2>darkness with no light. And as soon as I left

458
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the firelight, I knew exactly where I was, but looked

459
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:09.799
<v Speaker 2>at me, looked at him back and forth, and then

460
00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:12.759
<v Speaker 2>that's when they moved off with it without a sound.

461
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:15.240
<v Speaker 1>That the night you got the footage. Were you also

462
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 1>playing classical music? As you mentioned earlier, we were What

463
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.559
<v Speaker 1>were you guys doing around camp that that perhaps drew

464
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:21.799
<v Speaker 1>them in to take a look at you?

465
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so near lok we West Dean plays classical music.

466
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the biggest fan of classical music, but hey,

467
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.599
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, don't don't play classical music.

468
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Long hair, loud music.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Man.

470
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>That was that was rock and roll of the day.

471
00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think, I mean, yeah, even if we come

472
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:40.319
<v Speaker 2>back to that, I mean, if it was up to me,

473
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:42.200
<v Speaker 2>If if it's up to me and I'll play Death

474
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Middle out there, I don't think we get many positive reactions.

475
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I think the the engine vibration of the of the

476
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.680
<v Speaker 2>death meddle when we go over to well but so yeah,

477
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>so classical music, even the soundtrack from Top Gun, things

478
00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.200
<v Speaker 2>like that, purely just to get an attracted I got

479
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>a connection of that.

480
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you just brought up a really important important

481
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:06.759
<v Speaker 1>thing here, Gary, I'm sorry to interrupt and everything as

482
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.039
<v Speaker 1>far as Top Gun, is it the original Top Gun

483
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>or the sequel?

484
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Now? The original?

485
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>The original? Okay, So it's a direct connection to Bobo then,

486
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 1>is what you're saying. Like the Yoweys are attracted to

487
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Boat because you know, Bobo was involved with the Kenny

488
00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Loggins song Playing with the Boys. He was actually in

489
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the video, so.

490
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 2>He was a little bit footloot, an't I something.

491
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Like that, more like belly bumping, volleyball sort of stuff.

492
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, dolphin shorts, Yeah, the real bobes.

493
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

494
00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>And of course you know it's a shame he's on

495
00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>radio because he really does have the physique and the

496
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:43.079
<v Speaker 1>dolphin shorts of a you know, sex symbol like that.

497
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Start interrupt, But you brought up an important point. Classical

498
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>music and Top Gun soundtrack is what we got.

499
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly right. I even had a video there somewhere

500
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 2>in my fine way. I'm sitting halfway between camp and

501
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:01.400
<v Speaker 2>back in the darkness, and next thing, a Dean starts

502
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>playing danger Zone from that stand from that soundtrack, and

503
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>yeah great, yeah, nice mate, nice, but yeah, both of

504
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 2>you do that kind of thing again. Keep the white

505
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.720
<v Speaker 2>light to camp to create and attract. And we even

506
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.079
<v Speaker 2>get the get the camping barbecue out, start cooking up

507
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:21.839
<v Speaker 2>some moneys and steaks or sausages just to get that

508
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 2>smell out look the average camper does again as an

509
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>attractant to to try and hopefully bring something in.

510
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:30.359
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

511
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And I think but with this particular area they I

512
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.400
<v Speaker 2>think we've sort of come to the point and the

513
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:39.200
<v Speaker 2>realization that it's not it's not the music or the

514
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.039
<v Speaker 2>food that much that brings them in. It's just a

515
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>very high, highly active area. I mean this this particular location.

516
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Look up above, end below. When you enter a certain location,

517
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you'll hear a whistle in the valley below you as

518
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>soon as you enter location, and then the tree knock

519
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Speaker 2>on the ridge above you. So they're clearly watching what's

520
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 2>going on. With this particular area. We found foot impressions

521
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.440
<v Speaker 2>for to be the X markers. We've heard old old

522
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 2>men mumbling in the bush, which, as you guys know,

523
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 2>like you could hear someone talking in a deep tone,

524
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>but they're far enough away you can't understand what they're saying.

525
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 2>So we've got that kind of thing. We've also got

526
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>the scat that we found in the creek book directly

527
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>below the thermal location. And this this this scat, we

528
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Speaker 2>had it sent to Sydney for testing and with the

529
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>worm and bacteria account you know, obviously tell the different

530
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.000
<v Speaker 2>levels of what we know what kind of animal the

531
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 2>scats come from, depending on that that on that those

532
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.519
<v Speaker 2>levels of the worm and bacteria, and as you may know,

533
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the if it comes back at the lost levels, it's

534
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 2>human slash primate, and these levels came back at that

535
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>human slash primate. But when the the University City went

536
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>to cross reference with cross cross reference to fin is

537
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>with human DNA as such, they could not match up

538
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 2>this scat with any known human DNA, so basically come

539
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>back as unknown, which obviously it doesn't give chancewers, but

540
00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 2>it also gives us a bit of a bit of

541
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:17.839
<v Speaker 2>a positive up as well, being that they have that

542
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:20.960
<v Speaker 2>they can't identify it on any of the tables they have.

543
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 2>So I think this whole area is very active, regardless

544
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 2>of music, regardless of food, smells and that kind of

545
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>thing as well. We still do it, you know, to

546
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 2>try and keep that that predictability as such as well.

547
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.599
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean the guy, the guys were out

548
00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:46.079
<v Speaker 2>on Thursday night just gone and they got another two

549
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>thermal captures from that particular era. Unfortunately, they're not the

550
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>same quality or any groundbreaking thermals like well Buck got

551
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:59.279
<v Speaker 2>that that night almost eighteen months ago. But one in

552
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>one particular you can clearly say there's a head with

553
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>oyes and a nose, and then the other one you

554
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>can clearly see a humanoid. Tod biggest standing.

555
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 1>The stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff

556
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 1>and Bobo. We'll be right back after these messages.

557
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just progress. You just gotta keep going it

558
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 2>doing what we do because unfortunately you don't get results

559
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 2>sitting on the couch.

560
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know, you said something here like it's

561
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>not groundbreaking footage like the other one is. But I'd

562
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>like to point out that that's not the point. You know,

563
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that you really are hitting the nail on

564
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the head here because you kind of circle back around

565
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 1>on that a little bit. It's not one individual piece

566
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of footage it's going to do anything. It's going to

567
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a collection of footage that's going to turn heads

568
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and draw more interest. I just had a conversation with

569
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 1>doctor Todd Dissattel maybe two years ago or something like that,

570
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>unless I might had a face to face with him,

571
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about the prospects of trying to

572
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>prove the species the sasquatch in this case, without collecting

573
00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a type specimen, you know, without killing one essentially. And

574
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Todd was saying, you know, he's a skeptic. He's open

575
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to the subject, but he's a skeptic. He's got a PhD.

576
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>He pretty much knows what he's talking about, right for

577
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the for the most part, you know. And he was

578
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>saying that if you could get a collection of footage

579
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and a collection of footprints and a small collection of DNA,

580
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 1>all from the same area, that would actually go quite

581
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:36.799
<v Speaker 1>a long ways in a lot of scientist's mind towards

582
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the supporting the species existence.

583
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I suppose. Now.

584
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Of course, what a lot of people don't realize is

585
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.319
<v Speaker 1>that once you draw the scientists in, they will kill

586
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>one and it'll all be over essentially, or they're going

587
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to get somebody to kill one or something like that.

588
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>A dead one will happen no matter what, no matter

589
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what avenue you approach this problem, a dead one is

590
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the final result. But at the same time, if you're

591
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 1>not you know, I personally don't want to pull the trigger.

592
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it, you know, but that doesn't stop me

593
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>from trying to get a collection of footprints and video

594
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and whatever else from one area. Now, Todd did say

595
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 1>a collection of good video, which is different than thermal,

596
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>But a therma is a good start. And the fact

597
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that you've gotten more than one thing out of this

598
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 1>one area is groundbreaking. That in itself is groundbreaking. It'd

599
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>be the same achievement as if you pulled a bunch

600
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of footprint casts out of one area, as Tom Shay

601
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 1>did or Bob Titmas did, or Paul Freeman and West

602
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Summerlin and Bill Lowry and those guys did, And you

603
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.519
<v Speaker 1>are doing that groundbreaking work. So I guess this is

604
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 1>me gently encouraging you to not downplay what you're doing

605
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 1>by saying that that was groundbreaking. But this is not

606
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>because I think you have to look at your work

607
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 1>and your collection as a whole, and then you realize,

608
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>holy smokes, we're really doing something here and it sounds

609
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like you guys are.

610
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Matt, I've very muchly appreciate that, very very

611
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 2>homewards And yeah, I guess yeah, we put that way. Yeah,

612
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 2>you're right again. Look I got back to thermals plenty

613
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>plenty four print scat. There's even possible more more scat

614
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 2>fan last night. Yeah, it's again. You just got to

615
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>keep keep plugging forward and do what we can do.

616
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 2>And I do the best we can do, really, eh.

617
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it sounds like you're being very successful and

618
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 1>that in itself is groundbreaking. I don't know. I mean,

619
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>no one knows much about the YAUI of course, and

620
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>probably even less than people know about sasquatches really because

621
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>there's so few people in Australia taking an interest versus

622
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the States here, but up in the States.

623
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>It's the data is showing that the sasquatches run here

624
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 1>seem to stay in the same general area. They don't

625
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, move six hundred miles one direction and you

626
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>know that sort of thing. They kind of stay put

627
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>in this you know, ten by or fifteen by fifteen

628
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>mile area or something like that. I don't know if

629
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the case with the awoy's. I assume it is.

630
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:03.559
<v Speaker 1>But if that's the case, you're getting information. You're getting

631
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.279
<v Speaker 1>data from the same yaois again and again and again,

632
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and that is going to push the ball further down

633
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the field. You're going to learn a lot more about

634
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>not only the species, but your individual group of the

635
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 1>aoy's that you're dealing with, which will help you, in

636
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 1>turn in the future get even more information from it.

637
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a snowball effect. So you are doing everything right now,

638
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be happier. There's a group of guys

639
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 1>down there, group of people down there doing what you

640
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 1>guys are doing for sure.

641
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Man, I mean, look, you going back to the population,

642
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I do agree that they do stay in a particular

643
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of era. We have sort of worked out within

644
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>the Gold Coast Hinderland that there is a general general

645
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>sort of four to five different troops or groups tribes,

646
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.759
<v Speaker 2>which whichever y you want a classic for what but

647
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>gaing bar reports that come into us, you know every

648
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>single day, the office side of people, whatever whatever number

649
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you have in your head about day population, it's not

650
00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>even close. Pretti. The wholes and coast of Australia it's

651
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.319
<v Speaker 2>just scattered with sightings everywhere, littered everywhere, and with those

652
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of reports. They come in from obviously different areas,

653
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 2>different descriptions, different sizes, as in quite big and buff built,

654
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 2>all too tall and skinny. We've also got the smaller

655
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:25.039
<v Speaker 2>beings well, the gingity brown jacks. We don't get as

656
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 2>many reports them, but they do spread right through eastern

657
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Australia for the most part, from tip of Queensland right

658
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 2>down to Victoria. So yeah, the migratory paths. I don't

659
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 2>think they're as big as what some people may think,

660
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>exactly like what you said, but I think their population

661
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 2>is a lot greater than what people would expect. As well.

662
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the ginger d for a minute. The

663
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:54.159
<v Speaker 1>brown jacks. Have you had such an experience with those things?

664
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately not. I've spoken to many people, even within my

665
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>local community who had experiences and seen them. We don't

666
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 2>get too many reports. I think the last report that

667
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.159
<v Speaker 2>we had come in was a couple of months ago

668
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.280
<v Speaker 2>from a bit further on the northern side of the

669
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Gold Coast, from a guy who was driving home at

670
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 2>about eleven eleven thirty at night and he was doing

671
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 2>about sixty five mile an hour and he's driving a

672
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 2>w X with a big body, kitten that kind of thing.

673
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>As he's coming down the road, he saw on the

674
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 2>left hand side of the road what he thought was

675
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 2>a rabbit or a wallaby or something like that. So

676
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.400
<v Speaker 2>he slowed down and then when he got closer, this

677
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 2>thing stood up and he could quite clearly see it

678
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 2>was a small humanoid, hairy figure. So he said he

679
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>slowed down to about ten to twenty kilometers an hour,

680
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>so very very slow, and this being then picked its

681
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 2>knees up and like an Olympic sprinter, sprinted across the

682
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 2>road in front of him. Now, usually with these kind

683
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 2>of encounters, this particular person, it's not his first experience,

684
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 2>so he was he was able to rationalize, rationalize that

685
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 2>particular sighting and encounter lord easier than what most people think.

686
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 2>So this particular person is part five gene. And in

687
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Fiji they call him the Lequa elie Ka. And he

688
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>said they live amongst the mangraves, and it's quite commonly

689
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>known amongst the fi Jeans about the Lecqua. And from

690
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>his description over the phone, he's very close to what

691
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:29.360
<v Speaker 2>we describe as the brown Jack, the dunity three to

692
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>four foot tall, basically basically a miniature yowi. H They

693
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.599
<v Speaker 2>from reports, they tend to get around in groups, and

694
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 2>they tend to be quite mischievous as well, going through campsites,

695
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>destroying camp sites, stealing things. As opposed to the yowi

696
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>or the quink and the Dula girl, they'll sort of

697
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 2>come in, they'll check things out, maybe tap the tap

698
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 2>on the car, tap on the caravan, press their hand

699
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>on the tent and fill your face as you're trying

700
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:02.199
<v Speaker 2>to sleep. But yeah, the same to just like to

701
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>play games instead.

702
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and of course our listeners you're probably piecing it together.

703
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 1>But the ginger Da or the brown jack is a

704
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 1>small sasquatch or yowie like thing that lives down there,

705
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.760
<v Speaker 1>three four or five feet tall, somewhere in that stretch,

706
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>which has given a lot of support and credence now

707
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>because of the discovery of not only Homo floresiensis down

708
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 1>in the island of Floores, which is not that far away,

709
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.199
<v Speaker 1>but also Homo lose on ences, a new human species.

710
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 1>It is also small, very few fossil has been recovered

711
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.760
<v Speaker 1>from it. But again it's another small three to four

712
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 1>foot tall hairy homanoid, and even to this present day

713
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>there is at least one and possibly two forms of

714
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>small relic hominoids on the island of Flores where Homo

715
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>fleuresiensis was discovered. Now, how they got to Australia, I

716
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Probably the same way everything else did, I suppose.

717
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.599
<v Speaker 1>But reports like this are prevalent and still go on

718
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 1>to this present day. And my question to you, Gary

719
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>would be is and then this I really don't know this,

720
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's a good question for me, I think. Is

721
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>there any way to tell between to differentiate between a

722
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 1>brown jacker, a gingity and a juvenile yahwi okay?

723
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I can only answer that from basically a witness testimony.

724
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>So our teammate Shannon Guthrie, so a little a few

725
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>months ago, he was on his way to work on

726
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 2>the back side of the mountain that I live on

727
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>at four point thirty in the morning on his motorcycle.

728
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Came around the corner and there is a small being

729
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 2>on the side of the road in the middle of

730
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the road and he actually had to correct his line

731
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 2>on his bike. They say he wouldn't hit this bean

732
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the road and going from his

733
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.400
<v Speaker 2>description this this being was very child like in appearance.

734
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And then when we speak to other beings, sorry, other

735
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:58.280
<v Speaker 2>witnesses who have had gringity experiences, they tend to often

736
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>give give the representation that the face of these smaller

737
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>beings is very is very old and weathered, basically like

738
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 2>an elderly person in the face. So that's that's really

739
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:17.559
<v Speaker 2>the closest we can get to actually differentiating between a

740
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.079
<v Speaker 2>juvenile yooi and a jingity. So apart from that, it's

741
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.119
<v Speaker 2>it's it's the jingity getting around in their little groups

742
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and the yowi getting around in pairs as such. Unfortunately,

743
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 2>we haven't come across too many cases where we can

744
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 2>actually distinguish between the two.

745
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>What a our footprint casts like after a sighting of

746
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>one of these that you think is either a brown

747
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 1>jack or a yowi or maybe a juvenile yady yawi,

748
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>are there any differentiations or marks? I guess that one

749
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.599
<v Speaker 1>can tell the difference between those beasts and the footprints.

750
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Not that we've sayen we've only really come across the

751
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>yowi footprints, and we have come across smaller childlike footprints,

752
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 2>but they're often walking parallel with is like a fifteen

753
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.239
<v Speaker 2>sixteen seven inch footprint rob beside them, So we've often

754
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.119
<v Speaker 2>taken that as a juvenile yaley walking with their parent.

755
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.239
<v Speaker 2>I personally don't even think I've even heard of anyone

756
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 2>even coming across tingity footprints to be honest.

757
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, we were showed some we were shown some

758
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff when we were down there where Ray Dowry actually

759
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.440
<v Speaker 1>showed us. Dougherty showed us some stuff, but I couldn't

760
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 1>tell the difference between human and that. I mean, they

761
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 1>looked human to me, and I would think that if

762
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>these things are, if these things are at all related

763
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to homophoresciences or something like that, which I would have,

764
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I think as a reasonable guess that they might be,

765
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't know for sure, but a reasonable guess

766
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>they would have some sort of flexibility in the mid

767
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>part of their foot, and these that we saw simply

768
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 1>did not, which is one of the confounding things about Australia,

769
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.639
<v Speaker 1>at least the things that I found to be confounding

770
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 1>is that, yeah, you do find barefoot footprints out in

771
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 1>the brush, but the Aboriginals, the indigenous people of Australia,

772
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 1>never wear shoes unless they go into town because they

773
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get like civilizations filth on them. But

774
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.039
<v Speaker 1>for the most part they're they're walking around barefoot out

775
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 1>in the woods, which really, you know, makes things a

776
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit more difficult to discern. I guess, so I

777
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know, do you have any thoughts on that?

778
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. That's like in certain locations where we have

779
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.880
<v Speaker 2>found the smaller type footprints, we have to think rationally.

780
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 2>We alsoys have to rule out what it could be

781
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>before saying what it is. Which in any kind of research,

782
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 2>regardless what we find, including last night, you always have

783
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 2>to reule out what it could be before saying what

784
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:39.639
<v Speaker 2>it is. Not everything is how we will be related. Uh,

785
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.800
<v Speaker 2>And when we have found these smaller type footprints, we

786
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.800
<v Speaker 2>have we altously get excited. Here's some footprints, is you know,

787
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.199
<v Speaker 2>three four track impressions in a line gain a particular direction.

788
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 2>But then you got to think, okay, well, we've come here,

789
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>we've noticed that there's four drive tracks coming here, We've

790
00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 2>noted that noticed that people go to the creek a

791
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 2>couple hundred meters dinner to go for a swim. So

792
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 2>when we sort of come across these kind of things,

793
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 2>we'll obviously have to take that into consideration that it

794
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>might not be what we want to want it to be.

795
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.519
<v Speaker 2>It could just be people and kids walking as opposed

796
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 2>to driving on these tracks to get to the creek.

797
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 2>And again coming back to the terrain of Australia, it

798
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:25.199
<v Speaker 2>is very hard to actually get castable footprints on top

799
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>of that as well, and with the hundreds of track

800
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>impressions of found where you can see TOAs you can

801
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:35.039
<v Speaker 2>see heel, I've only made four or five casts out

802
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 2>of hundreds that I found that were actually decently castable.

803
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise you can make the cast, but you're not going

804
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:44.599
<v Speaker 2>to say anything. Even with the trying to look for

805
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>a mid tass will break, You're just not going to

806
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 2>see it. So unfortunately, it can be very situational as well.

807
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

808
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Will be right back after these messages. I was perusing

809
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 1>your footprint stuff over on the Yowi Hunters dot com

810
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 1>website and that's a great website by the way, and

811
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 1>some of these footprints and there's some handprints on there

812
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>which I think are pretty interesting. Some of these footprints,

813
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the footprint finds are very compelling, very compelling, and very

814
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 1>reminiscent of the Sasquatch here in North America. But something

815
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm noticing here, even if they don't look human to me,

816
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and there's some telltale field marks that you'd want to

817
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>look to see if they're human. Some of them are

818
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:34.840
<v Speaker 1>reminiscent of human, but some of the ones are not,

819
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And they tend towards being fairly small, is what I've noticed. Yeah,

820
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>there's some bigger ones on here, don't get me wrong,

821
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>there's fifteen, sixteen, even some seventeen inch ones as far

822
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>as I can tell, but some of these look quite

823
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>small and quite inhuman. At the same time, I'm actually

824
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>very impressed with some of the footprints that have been

825
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 1>photographed and some of the few have been that have

826
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:57.760
<v Speaker 1>been casted as well, so good job on that stuff.

827
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 1>It also appears that they seem to walk with very

828
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>little straddle on their footprints, which is another hallmark of

829
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the North American Sasquatch as well. They're not quite exactly

830
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>tightroad walking, as I've mentioned before in this podcast, that

831
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.119
<v Speaker 1>is really overblown in the Bigfoot community. We really say

832
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 1>they're an exact straight line through the snow well it's

833
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>probably an animal jumping. Then there's always a little bit

834
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of straddle and you see just a smidge of straddle

835
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 1>between these left and rights that you have trackways photographed of.

836
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>And they're very interesting and very compelling, and looking at

837
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 1>some of these footprints, a lot of them remind me

838
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>of other footprints in the data set here from North America.

839
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>And it's really great that you guys put all that

840
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>out so we can learn from what you guys are

841
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 1>doing down there too.

842
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Some of those stuff we look human.

843
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some of them I think are probably human, but

844
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 1>there are many actually, even some of the smaller ones

845
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that are in the human range that I don't think

846
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>are really tiny.

847
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 3>One looks like that Cas Dave Ellis got up in Washington,

848
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 3>the baby four inch foot one.

849
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at one right now. It is Nightcap National Park,

850
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And then we in Conservation Area, New South Wales.

851
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 1>That little baby print is adorable. First of all, it's

852
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely precious, and it's with a larger one. But

853
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:14.199
<v Speaker 1>that even that larger one doesn't look very large. Might

854
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>have been what nine inches maybe ten or something. It's

855
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>hard to say. There's no scale item in it, which

856
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 1>is also an American bigfoot researcher trait sometimes not putting

857
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>scale items in the picture.

858
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. I think also, you know, going back

859
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to the destrade as well, I do think people do

860
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 2>often expect them expect they straight lawn track impressions, as

861
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you were saying. But from what we found, it's it's

862
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.599
<v Speaker 2>very it's it's very uncommon that they actually do find

863
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:43.880
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing, even if it is through mud

864
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:49.440
<v Speaker 2>or sand. It's it's never really taught plot rope walking,

865
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>as you call it. And on top of that, we

866
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:54.880
<v Speaker 2>will say as well, when when when people famed one

867
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.159
<v Speaker 2>track with two tracks, uh print impressions, I should say,

868
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>and then I said, well that they simply just disappeared.

869
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:04.719
<v Speaker 2>What people often forget is that with the size of

870
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 2>these beings and the length of their stride, I find

871
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 2>that people make the mistake of looking looking and say

872
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 2>half a meter to a meter in front of that

873
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 2>of that last foot impression, you know, as as opposed

874
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>to looking say two to three meters ahead. They often say,

875
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, these these tracks just stopped. But if these

876
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 2>people a should look look ahead, look for maybe a

877
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.599
<v Speaker 2>rock or a log, or a softer piece of ground.

878
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.239
<v Speaker 2>You can usually pick up these track impressions as well

879
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and continue on following where this being was walking. Again,

880
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>people often sort of look at the human stride and

881
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>expect that a being that's going to be nine foot

882
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 2>tour with an eighteen inch footprint is going to have

883
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 2>half half a meter gate when they walk. Just what

884
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Once you can open people up to that idea of

885
00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 2>looking two to three times a distance they normally would,

886
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.960
<v Speaker 2>then you can usually pick up the truckway and continue

887
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:05.920
<v Speaker 2>to continue to follow it.

888
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's an excellent point and something that

889
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people forget. I deal with a lot

890
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of people in the United States, of course, obviously, and

891
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.119
<v Speaker 1>they said, why was there only one footprint there, Cliff?

892
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 1>You know why because it beamed in or teleported here

893
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It's like, no, probably, well, come, I didn't

894
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 1>find any more footprints. And you know, I'm kind of

895
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>callous an old jerk nowadays. So I said, because you're

896
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:27.440
<v Speaker 1>not that good of a tracker, And they say, oh,

897
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>but I but I found that one and said, well

898
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't.

899
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 2>You just don't.

900
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 1>You're you might be used to tracking deer or bear

901
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But as you're saying, did you look,

902
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, two to three meters, you know, six to

903
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 1>nine feet in front of it. Probably not, And even

904
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 1>if you did, would you be able to find it,

905
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 1>because Sasquatch feet like Yawi feet are big and soft

906
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and padded and flexible, and they're bending around stuff and

907
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>they just are not they're not. They're not things that

908
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>are that are easily recorded in the ground. As they

909
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 1>You might be able to find some trace of them,

910
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:57.440
<v Speaker 1>but it might not be what you're looking for, because

911
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>everybody's looking for that clear five toed print that looks

912
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>like a big old human print, and that's obvious, and

913
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.039
<v Speaker 1>because a big animal like that would probably leave one.

914
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Not the case at all.

915
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:08.440
<v Speaker 2>No, it just does.

916
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 1>It simply does not happen. And you bring up a

917
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:11.599
<v Speaker 1>lot of good points there.

918
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Again, going going back to the hundreds of prints

919
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 2>that I've found, I've only found personally five that locker

920
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 2>cars out of hundreds. Again, going back to the foliage,

921
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 2>going back to where did they walk? Did they step

922
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 2>on a rock? Do they step on a log? Like

923
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a good little little little size story for you, is

924
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:37.760
<v Speaker 2>that location where we're screamed at, you know, those years ago?

925
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Going back to the location one day checking out another

926
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>little area in our same location. Come across it looked

927
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.519
<v Speaker 2>like a party, like there was like thirty or thirty

928
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>hours and out of the party running around this one area.

929
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.960
<v Speaker 2>There's prints everywhere. But because we're on the bikes, we're

930
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.400
<v Speaker 2>in leathers, because this is an area that we gave

931
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:03.159
<v Speaker 2>for a ride. I obviously didn't have any casting material

932
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 2>with me, so I've gone out checking out all these

933
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 2>foot impressions lay over the place, and then I tracked

934
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 2>them down in the northern northerly direction. I'm looking for

935
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 2>movement in the ground. Broken sticks and they stepped and

936
00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 2>snapped the stick, general movement through the area, and as

937
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 2>a come as it come to one foot one movement impression,

938
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I found another, found another, and you can see where

939
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 2>something has stepped on this side of the fallen log

940
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.719
<v Speaker 2>fallen free and then where the next foot has stepped

941
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>over the log on the other side of the ground.

942
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Kept going and I come across like one left hand footprint,

943
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 2>which is only a partial footprint. You could see the heel,

944
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 2>you could see the big toe that was about it,

945
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 2>and but the terrain it was not castable. Even if

946
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 2>it did cast it would have just come out as

947
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 2>a mess. And while I'm taking photo and via of this,

948
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm noting that, Okay, here's his foot impression. Look I

949
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 2>look ahead, I can't see another foot impression. But what

950
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I did notice after that were two fallen trees, say

951
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 2>two meters ahead, six feet ahead, that had movement signs.

952
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Movement where over top of these fallen trees. So I've

953
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 2>taken that as the signs of this left hand footprint.

954
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 2>That was the last step, the next step when on

955
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 2>top of these fallen trees. I ended up tracking these

956
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.199
<v Speaker 2>foot impressions for like another hundred meters, I say, But

957
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 2>the interesting thing to note about this particular situation is

958
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:44.440
<v Speaker 2>that when I was taking photo and video of this

959
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 2>left hand partial footprint, the heel, the big toe, you

960
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:51.639
<v Speaker 2>can see the arch of the foot. It measured at

961
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 2>about seventeen eighteen inches. Off to my right through the rainforest,

962
00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I heard a bit of movement. I stopped, I turned

963
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.039
<v Speaker 2>on the right. I didn't see anything. I didn't hear

964
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:05.039
<v Speaker 2>anything anymore, and then I continued on my way across

965
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the logs again track these beings another one hundred meters,

966
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 2>so I come to the culvert which went under the road,

967
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:16.119
<v Speaker 2>and from there lost the lost the track impressions. We

968
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:18.760
<v Speaker 2>decided to come back at night time. So when we

969
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 2>come back in night on, I knew exactly where these

970
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 2>trackways were, so we wanted to investigate this area a

971
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:27.920
<v Speaker 2>bit more at night. So I've taken a couple of

972
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 2>mates in there. We've gone the exact same path that

973
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I took to final these track impressions, et cetera. And

974
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:40.519
<v Speaker 2>when we got to where this partial seventy eight foot

975
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:45.400
<v Speaker 2>impression was, it was gone. The ground was all scrubbed over.

976
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:49.440
<v Speaker 2>We couldn't find any track impressions at all in that

977
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 2>particular pathway. But what we found interesting was that there

978
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 2>was some tree limbs that had been broken off nearby

979
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:00.920
<v Speaker 2>trees and they've been jammed in the ground in the

980
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 2>middle of this trackway that was there, I'm assuming to

981
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>look like naturally growing trees.

982
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Was the ground soft or was it dry when they

983
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:11.239
<v Speaker 3>shoved the branches in?

984
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:14.639
<v Speaker 2>It would have been soft enough to quite easily jam

985
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.639
<v Speaker 2>gen me these branches in the ground. When you know

986
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I took that, is took that as the movement that

987
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I heard when I was photo photoing and videoing this

988
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>this partial partial impression was I got busted finding in

989
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 2>their trackway, and then once we've left, they've then broken

990
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.559
<v Speaker 2>these these limbs off trees, gemmed them in the ground

991
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:42.000
<v Speaker 2>to cover up the trackway and also to make it

992
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:43.639
<v Speaker 2>look like they're naturally growing trees.

993
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Now, that was another commonality with where you got the

994
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.519
<v Speaker 1>thermal footage as well, that what there are other sticks

995
00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:51.719
<v Speaker 1>shoved in the ground, and that's why you said.

996
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, correct, correct, So sometimes some summer twigs, some are

997
00:52:56.679 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 2>two three inches thick. Now, before we going further with this,

998
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I will say that mother nature does do some tricky things.

999
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:07.480
<v Speaker 2>So when we when we've often spoken of these sticks,

1000
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.400
<v Speaker 2>people say, well, we find sticks and ground all the time.

1001
00:53:09.400 --> 00:53:12.280
<v Speaker 2>They fall from trees. Yes, they do. They one hundred

1002
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:16.639
<v Speaker 2>percent do fall from trees. It's not one we related

1003
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.199
<v Speaker 2>every time. But the big thing is when when we

1004
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 2>do find a lot of these sticks, there's usually no

1005
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.679
<v Speaker 2>tree canopy above. So this, this this big stick in

1006
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the grounds appeared out of nowhere. There are in locations

1007
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>where bushwalkers don't go, there's there's no trails, et cetera.

1008
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.639
<v Speaker 2>And another thing we often find as well that we

1009
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of lean more towards yowee activity is that a

1010
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:44.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of these sticks when our gem in the ground

1011
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:48.719
<v Speaker 2>is that every every other limb on the stick has

1012
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:52.800
<v Speaker 2>been snapped off, so there's there's no little extra little

1013
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 2>twigs and that kind of thing hang off off these sticks.

1014
00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:01.280
<v Speaker 2>It's all open has been stripped off. Sometimes we found

1015
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:05.199
<v Speaker 2>sticks have been snapped and when they snap them, they

1016
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.079
<v Speaker 2>snapped the meat of the meat of the stick, but

1017
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 2>that they don't break the bark and actually twist and

1018
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.239
<v Speaker 2>tie the bark around the top of the stick as well.

1019
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.639
<v Speaker 3>That thermal say, it was like a fire break road, right,

1020
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 3>it was off there like the trailer you guys took

1021
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:23.679
<v Speaker 3>in there, because didn't you when you found that was

1022
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:26.639
<v Speaker 3>it an old road? I guess there was tons of sticks, chan,

1023
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:28.599
<v Speaker 3>I remember watching a video on that when you guys

1024
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 3>released the video.

1025
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a it's a fire trail that links up

1026
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:39.840
<v Speaker 2>to a walking trail. You know, with the amount of

1027
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:42.480
<v Speaker 2>times we've been there, we've only seen one of the

1028
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:47.719
<v Speaker 2>one other pair of people who were there at that

1029
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:50.519
<v Speaker 2>particular location. Like we've been there during day and night.

1030
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:55.119
<v Speaker 2>So bushwalks and stuff will often put sticks in the

1031
00:54:55.159 --> 00:55:00.320
<v Speaker 2>ground to signify it basically trail markers. But again a

1032
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of these locations that we go to. There's no

1033
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.199
<v Speaker 2>like we ourselves are making your way through the bush,

1034
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.920
<v Speaker 2>So we asselves are creating that movement through the bush,

1035
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, moving through the grass, snapping of limbs, that

1036
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:17.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. But it's a fall trial which goes

1037
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:20.840
<v Speaker 2>in a walk control, which is extremely rarely used. At

1038
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:25.679
<v Speaker 2>the most. You must see the National Parks Department getting

1039
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:27.840
<v Speaker 2>ready for summer coming and doing a bit of clearing.

1040
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 2>But that's really about it.

1041
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're in Australia, I think it was. It was

1042
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.320
<v Speaker 3>the National it was there. There have been some pole

1043
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 3>less than ten percent of the people and I STI

1044
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:42.719
<v Speaker 3>didn't heard of it, yea, like they all think of

1045
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 3>the candy But when we were down there, like because

1046
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I always talk to like everyone, like you know, people

1047
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 3>the checkout girl at the store, like a waiter, waitress,

1048
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:55.679
<v Speaker 3>people at the gas station. I always go you got

1049
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.960
<v Speaker 3>these stories, you know anything where and people that are

1050
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.599
<v Speaker 3>I just say like, well, what about the candy bar.

1051
00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm like no, like the bigfoots are They're like no.

1052
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I said yeah. They're like like yeah, yeah, I say yeah,

1053
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 3>you guys have something like that here. They're like no.

1054
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.559
<v Speaker 3>I'd be like Yeah, there's tons of reports that they

1055
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 3>had no clue. It was like, you guys were way

1056
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:18.960
<v Speaker 3>like it was like America probably like in nineteen forties.

1057
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like, Yeah, unfortunately it's it is very much

1058
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.199
<v Speaker 2>like that here. It's it's sort of been put backs

1059
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:30.280
<v Speaker 2>like Aboriginal folklore. It's not really pushed in a public

1060
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.119
<v Speaker 2>life very very much, if if at all. You know,

1061
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years, it's getting better. I mean,

1062
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 2>even though like with the amount of people that that

1063
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.599
<v Speaker 2>that come forth to us, you know, being we were politicians, police, military,

1064
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:50.119
<v Speaker 2>medical doctors, scientific doctors, scientists. We have witness accounts from

1065
00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:54.639
<v Speaker 2>all all walks of life, so the word is out there.

1066
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.400
<v Speaker 2>But I think just the general population, it's almost like

1067
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>they will will fully ignorant to this situation, even if

1068
00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:05.039
<v Speaker 2>a friend of a friend might tell them a story

1069
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>about when they were camping or something like that and

1070
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:10.159
<v Speaker 2>they just passed it off and drinking too much or whatever.

1071
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:12.960
<v Speaker 2>But again, the last couple of years it has got

1072
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot better. We just got to hope you just

1073
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 2>keep pushing forward and try and really get it out there.

1074
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.159
<v Speaker 2>And you know, the last siding we had that we

1075
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:26.360
<v Speaker 2>had come in was last Friday, and that was from

1076
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a lady going to work and she sort of saw

1077
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 2>this being a big, massive black one take off on

1078
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 2>the side of the road. She put it on a

1079
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 2>local a local Facebook group as an anonymous post. She

1080
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:43.639
<v Speaker 2>copt a lot of positive feedback, but she also copt

1081
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:45.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of negative feedback. And want to say she's

1082
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.039
<v Speaker 2>because we found out it is a lady that lives

1083
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.719
<v Speaker 2>in a particular era. Other was on the Facebook group.

1084
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:58.159
<v Speaker 2>She again she posted as an anonymous poster. But we

1085
00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:01.079
<v Speaker 2>are starting to see comments and that kind of thing

1086
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:03.239
<v Speaker 2>take more of a positive turn as supposed to a

1087
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:03.800
<v Speaker 2>negative turn.

1088
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, since you are looking for more reports, we do

1089
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.599
<v Speaker 1>have a really nice listenership down in Australia. Actually, a

1090
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:11.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of people down there listen to us. We really

1091
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>do appreciate it. I very often say Australia is one

1092
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>of the few places I'd like to go back to

1093
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.079
<v Speaker 1>that we went to in finding Bigfoot. It was a

1094
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 1>lovely area, lovely people, lovely landscape everything and Yaway's are

1095
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>just outside of town. So anyway, a lot of people

1096
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 1>are fans of us down there and they listen. So

1097
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:28.920
<v Speaker 1>where if one of our fans has run into one

1098
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:30.719
<v Speaker 1>of these things or has information that might be of

1099
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 1>interest to you, Gary, Where can they get a hold

1100
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>of you? What's the best way to share their information

1101
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:36.119
<v Speaker 1>with you?

1102
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure if they can jump on the internet

1103
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.360
<v Speaker 2>and go to yowiehunters dot com. Alternatly, alternatively they can

1104
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:48.079
<v Speaker 2>go to Facebook and go to Australian Yawi Research Official

1105
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 2>actually putting the official there because there is another group

1106
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:56.119
<v Speaker 2>that is a similar name nothing to do with us,

1107
00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:59.559
<v Speaker 2>but yes, is actually putting official should come up. But otherwise,

1108
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 2>if you got to so at Johannas dot com you'll

1109
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.159
<v Speaker 2>find all the information that you can find there. There's

1110
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.840
<v Speaker 2>also a link button to the YouTube channel. Yeah, check

1111
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:10.719
<v Speaker 2>us out. We are active. We are we are at

1112
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:14.440
<v Speaker 2>there doing the best we can to further further this

1113
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:16.000
<v Speaker 2>research and a positive matter.

1114
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 1>And doing a great job doing it as well. And

1115
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:22.360
<v Speaker 1>fantastic results so far a couple as you say, not

1116
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:26.079
<v Speaker 1>life changing, you know, uh, thermal imaging hits is better

1117
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.639
<v Speaker 1>than most people yet. Plus that really solid one that

1118
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys got, it's a really interesting, fantastic looking footage

1119
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.239
<v Speaker 1>of two Yawie's not that far away from the thermal

1120
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:39.840
<v Speaker 1>imaging camera. It's just draw jaw dropping. Really. Maybe not

1121
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.119
<v Speaker 1>to most people, but Bobo and I have been poking

1122
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 1>around a thermist for like a decade or more, and

1123
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, yeah, so it it is jaw dropping. If

1124
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:52.159
<v Speaker 1>you have experienced with therms in the field, excellent job, fantastic.

1125
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to the next piece of thermal imaging

1126
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 1>that you guys are going to get and share with us.

1127
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:57.400
<v Speaker 1>So I really appreciate that.

1128
00:59:57.840 --> 00:59:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, cool gery. I'm sure you guys are going to

1129
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.280
<v Speaker 3>get more foot it seems likely. And you got to

1130
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:03.920
<v Speaker 3>come back and tell us and give us the news

1131
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 3>we need to do for sure.

1132
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.719
<v Speaker 2>My definitely read lots more stories to talk of it.

1133
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you very much for spending the time you

1134
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>spent with us. We really do appreciate it. And I really,

1135
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>just speaking for myself, I really appreciate to get the

1136
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.000
<v Speaker 1>effort and the time you guys are spending down there

1137
01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:21.039
<v Speaker 1>in Australia to try to get more information out. So

1138
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 1>few people are doing it down there, that's my impression,

1139
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:26.039
<v Speaker 1>at least.

1140
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1141
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you think that the woods are crawling with people,

1142
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>but from up here, it seems that very few people

1143
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 1>are spending the time out in the bush and it's

1144
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:34.119
<v Speaker 1>really good to see you guys are doing it and

1145
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:36.280
<v Speaker 1>getting results on top of it. So thank you very

1146
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 1>much for sharing it with us.

1147
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:39.239
<v Speaker 2>No, thank you, I appreciate it very much.

1148
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:41.199
<v Speaker 3>All right, So do you a good day for us?

1149
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I will bit, I'll tasting me beating side that you

1150
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 2>don't want to talk.

1151
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 1>To me, well you can tell them. That's why I

1152
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:50.719
<v Speaker 1>wasn't on the call with them initially.

1153
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Nine one walks you Dane.

1154
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well thanks Gary, all right, Gary, you take

1155
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:02.719
<v Speaker 1>care of Men's gone a good one by there you go, Bobs.

1156
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:05.199
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot more thermally going to come

1157
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.400
<v Speaker 3>from all over the world. That I mean, people are

1158
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.679
<v Speaker 3>getting closer and closer. The thermals are getting better, cheaper,

1159
01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:14.199
<v Speaker 3>the bluetooth capabilities. I mean, there's just so much more.

1160
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:16.280
<v Speaker 3>I expect those guys to get more.

1161
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:19.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a no brainer, man. But the good information comes

1162
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:23.960
<v Speaker 1>from those small pockets of various locations that people are

1163
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:25.880
<v Speaker 1>actually out there doing it. There's a lot of and

1164
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:27.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of people out there who

1165
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:29.920
<v Speaker 1>proclaim to be bigfooters and whatever. But you know, people

1166
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.239
<v Speaker 1>have jobs, they've got a life, they've got families, they've

1167
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>got their obligations. How much time can one really spend

1168
01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:38.880
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods, And people like this team here

1169
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:42.440
<v Speaker 1>from the AUSTINIANI and the Ali research team there, they

1170
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:44.760
<v Speaker 1>they're the ones spending the time in the woods and

1171
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 1>lo and behold, they're the ones getting results. So kind

1172
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:50.199
<v Speaker 1>of what it takes, man, It just takes some effort

1173
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 1>by a group of people working together or in an

1174
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:57.280
<v Speaker 1>individual but spending time in the woods, you will get

1175
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:00.360
<v Speaker 1>results eventually, especially if you're in a good area. Is

1176
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:01.760
<v Speaker 1>what it seems to come down to. And it's good

1177
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to know people are down there doing it.

1178
01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. God, I want to get back there so that.

1179
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:08.239
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I have not been back because when

1180
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:09.880
<v Speaker 3>we left Australia, like I was talking to the people

1181
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 3>down there, like you guys are going to see you

1182
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 3>back here any yam be back. I'm we're gonna do

1183
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:15.840
<v Speaker 3>some Yawi stuff. And I haven't been back since.

1184
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, all right, bos Man, great great job tracking out

1185
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of another fantastic guest.

1186
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:20.599
<v Speaker 3>Gary Lynn.

1187
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 1>There. You can reach them at of course, Yawi hunters

1188
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:26.880
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Really great website, great group of researchers down

1189
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:28.840
<v Speaker 1>there and they're getting good results. You have to check

1190
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.519
<v Speaker 1>out their thermal imaging, the thermaligion and imaging footage. It's fantastic.

1191
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:33.559
<v Speaker 1>It's really good.

1192
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there are auto reports, like I said, on YouTube,

1193
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:39.599
<v Speaker 3>you got to check those out. They got the visuals

1194
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.599
<v Speaker 3>with it, they got some great reports on there.

1195
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so good job, Bopes. Can't wait to see who

1196
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you line up next.

1197
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.639
<v Speaker 3>We got some good is coming up, Cliff, so keep

1198
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:48.199
<v Speaker 3>your pants on.

1199
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll try to, all right, folks.

1200
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Well that's another week of Bigfoot Beyond with Cliff and Bobo,

1201
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:57.800
<v Speaker 3>and we were joined this week by Gary Lynn from

1202
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Yawi Hunters down Australia. So thanks for listening. Hit like,

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01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.760
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1204
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