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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just yeah, all right, welcome in.

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Speaker 3: It is Thursday, and it is sort of the unofficial

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kickoff to MT sort of tournament season gear because we

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got day basketball I think today and then like every

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day from now through the rest of the week. So

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we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna start with an

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MTE and I'll just set this up for you guys,

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a little double feature today. We're gonna go to Bahamas

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for the Baja. We're gonna go to Baja Mars, specifically

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to the MT that's down to the Bahamas. And the

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reason I want to bring this up is I feel

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these are probably two of the bigger games on the

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slate today. I also got the chance to go down

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to this tournament a couple of years ago. Shout out

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to Josh and his entire team. Uh, they put on

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a phenomenal event. I'll tell you what before we get

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into breaking this down. As people file in, if you're

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ever like on the fence and your team is there

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and you're like, should I go one, and yes, you should.

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You should go to that tournament. They the fan experience

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is phenomenal. You're right next to the court, the access

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that you get at that tournament for like the general

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fan is just incredible. So highly highly recommend making the

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trip to Bahamas if if you ever get the chance

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to go to that Bahamar Invitational.

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Speaker 4: It is uh plus endorsement from Tree and Drag.

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Speaker 2: It's much better than hanging out with your family on Thanksgiving.

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So not your family in particular, I'm saying, but families

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in general. Right, I mean, who wouldn't want to go

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down to the Bahamas for Thanksgiving instead of spending time

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with their family.

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Speaker 1: I'm mom and dad, how are you?

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, Brian, the nice thing is it's

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the week before Thanksgiving always, so this one doesn't even fall.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm confused.

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Speaker 3: But you get to do both, and it's it's always there.

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They're always bringing in big time teams. So it's like

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the field when I went had some big teams last year.

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that had like the deep shot to either send it

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to overtime or win it in overtime. In this year's

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field is stack as well, starting with the Purdue boiler

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Makers as a what I thought was a large favorite

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and now they're even an even bigger favorite tonight against

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the Memphis Tigers. So Brian, I'm gonna come back to

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you first, and I'm gonna sort of sit this one out.

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I'll just facilitate the discussion. I'm doing this video today

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for wager Talk. I'm gonna be doing a full breakdown

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of these two games. So rather than you have to

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hear me yap on here and then say the same

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thing on there, I'll sort of save mine for the video,

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and that way we'll get more things in. Like I

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know Jay Buff wants to talk about Cornell. We'll get

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that stuff in. So over to you, Brian. Kick us

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off perdue Memphis. How are you seeing this one?

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Speaker 1: We need to make room and time for Jay Buff.

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We love you, Boff.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in, and thanks all of you for

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tuning in. Smatch that like button. Please you talk about

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the line movement in this game. Here, Trick, let's look

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at the odd screen real quick. So I say the

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right numbers. Purdue is what we'll call it, minus sixteen,

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minus sixteen and a half. At this point, I thought

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it actually had gotten a little bit higher a moment ago.

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in the last five minutes. But I suspect a little

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bit of recency bias is involved with the line movement here.

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Memphis is coming off a bad home loss to UNLV

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ninety two to seventy eight. Now not necessarily any shame

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in losing the UNLV even at home, but again they

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lose by double digits. They turned the ball over. Memphis

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did eighteen times, did not shoot the ball well forty

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two point four percent to be exact overall, and just

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twenty three and a half percent for three four of seventeen.

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It was, actually, guys, in terms of margin, the worst

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loss Memphis has had at home under Penny Hardaway. So

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many kind of thinks if this number keeps climbing, it's

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by low time on Memphis.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Rob, what do you think with that?

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awful loss like that and the line moving the way

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and this one will come from Penny Hardaway talking about

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something we've talked about now for almost three full weeks.

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to put together a roster that's entirely brand new. Here's

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what he's got to say about that. Obviously, this is

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very tough for me because we haven't been in this

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position this early in the season before. It's the byproduct

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of having a new team. And I'm trying, along with

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his staff to go to war every day and find

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five guys, find seven guys, find eight guys that can

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just run through a wall and just fight. We're still

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trying to figure that out right now. So the evaluation process,

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the experimentation process is I like to say, is you

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undergoing for Memphis and it's a tough team to go

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up against when you don't even know who your top

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eight are in the rotation. He's got a pretty good

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guest that he wants to start this out with Majuk

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and Tedford as his top two and then work from there.

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because Josh Passner is in the same type of situation

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out at UNLV and they walked into Memphis and just

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pretty much destroyed that team. Made him play fast, Memphis

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likes to play fast, couldn't do what they like to do,

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of pressure, not the way UNLV will. So maybe those

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turnovers won't be eighteen Ryan, But I have to believe

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that between Kaufman, Wren and Oscar Cluff, like I said, yes,

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point guard play, Memphis isn't going to take it away

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from Braiden Smith. In in fact, as Braiden Smith, everybody

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knows a great point guards. Oh Meir Meyer that's come

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on as the backup point guard nineteen and under player

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for the Israeli team, used to starting now coming off

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the bench, but playing very very good backup point guards.

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a half, but I may want to look at produced

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team total. I don't know that Memphis has much of

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a way to stop them from scoring, whether it be

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outside inside. Purdue doesn't transition, but they don't have to

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really because they're so efficient offensively quick. Look here, if

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seven and a half for Purdue. The only thing I

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would say is, you know, you're in the Bahamas, different setting,

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different rims. Maybe maybe not. Maybe Purdue's up by so

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much that they don't have to get to eighty eight.

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look that direction. Purdue team total over. Just don't know

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that Memphis knows exactly what they're doing yet, As the

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head coach stated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about efficiency on offense there, Rob, for Purdue, well,

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there is a grand total of zero teams more efficient

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right now in offensive rating over at ken Palm saw

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some people talking about analytics sites in the chat. So

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there's that Purdue's not going to turn you. I think

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not likely to turn Memphis over as much as you

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and LV did. That's just not their game on defense.

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throw this to Trig is like very well taken. Memphis

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has no like maybe we shouldn't be surprised by a

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slow start because they were tied for dead last in

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the country in returning production. While Perdue obviously has a

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great deal of returning production. Not to put you on

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the tape on the spot trig for a hot take

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alert here, But I think of Penny Hardaway as a coach.

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saying things like, well, I give the other team a

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coaching edge.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he gotten the double hot take.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love, but I love being put on the

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hot is.

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Speaker 5: The car way with these? Are these are easy? These

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are opinion based. It is the coach a good coach?

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kid from Michigan's been not so good to start the season,

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and it could be because the surroundings are just, you know,

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Speaker 3: Doug McDaniel struggling doesn't really surprise me because I feel

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like he's had some like hot and cold at times

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in his career. But I have a more definitive answer

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about Penny Hardaway. Listen, I love the guy as a

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as I loved him as a player. I had a

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magic starter jacket when I was about ten. I owned

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that blue with the Pinstripes Magic Penny Hardaway Jersey. As

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a coach, I think he's awful, a terrible coach in game.

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would there's almost no person in the country that I

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have him as a coaching end. Maybe Mike Bibby. I

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probably give him the edge over Mike Bibby right now.

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don't think he's the best x's and O guy that

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Speaker 2: Fair to be fair, you can get far at this

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job by just solely being a great look at coach

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cal I don't think anyone has ever accused coach call

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of being the finest x's and o's man in the business, right.

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on the level of coach.

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to words in your mom I'm not saying that Penny

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Hardaway should be strung up on a pole and run

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where he tends to struggle, and if he got the

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worst team, maybe it is a long night. Even if

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it ever has because when you're when you're at college

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basketball at the high level, the coach has so much

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other stuff to worry about at this point than just

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x's and o's. If you just want to worry about

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x'es and o's and be a coach, you got to

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go coach in the Patriot League or the IVY or

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someplace that doesn't have extreme roster turnover, nil players getting

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paid like that's so so really Hardaway is better off

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get out schemed a little bit if you if you're Memphis,

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I want to just throw this question up real quick

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answer it. And like I said, I'm gonna give my

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breakdown on these two games on a separate video, so

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and I have an answer for you, Jacob. So he says,

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days before, and if I'm off by a point and

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a half to three points, I see value. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: One oh one.

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I'm off by less, I see no value. So I

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I'm gonna for sure want to attack. I won't look

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at it when they open because I don't want to

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be stuck like with like ten plays just based on.

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Speaker 4: And where numbers open. Right, So that's why I don't

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do that.

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Speaker 3: I got I have Purdue minus nineteen and a half here,

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so that would have represented a fairly substantial quote unquote

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edge based on the opener of thirteen.

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Speaker 4: But I didn't play it.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean I still don't like like the produce side.

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I do see what you're saying where it's like, man,

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like that opened thirteen. I was way over here at

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nineteen and a half, Like I'm with you, though, I

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don't just auto play it. I have to sit there

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and think, like, Okay, why is it so far? Why

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am I so far off? Okay, now we're on a

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neutral Memphis played really poorly last time out, so so

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going back to some of this stuff Rob said, and

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it's it's not like a it's a case by case.

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Every single game is a case by case base It's

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that's why I have no life in college basketball season.

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That's why you know, I wonder if if you know,

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I wonder if I'll still have a significant other at

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the end of March because every game is a case

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by case space as it takes forever to break these

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games down. But that is a very very good question,

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in my opinion, and I think it's if either of

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you on a way in on that go ahead.

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Speaker 2: So I made the number fifteen for this game, so

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I thought it opened there was a little bit of value.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't as way off as you are.

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Speaker 2: I will be grudgingly give our friend j buff a

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good a shout here. I threw this comment on the

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check because I really agree with this what he's saying,

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especially early in the season, and this is true for

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college football as well. There are times where your line

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could be way off. Case in point, last night, right

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after we went right after we you know, click stop

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recording on this show, I asked trigger Raw, I said,

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what in the hell is up with this Michigan Middle

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Tennessee number? It just keeps going up and up. Yesterday

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I was way off. I was several points off from

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the opener. It kept going up, and I wound up

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making Middle Tennessee a play last night. Now, it was

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one of those situations where you know, after after a

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good first half, you kind of have to hold on

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your butt cheeks there a little bit the second we

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covered you know basically.

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Speaker 1: But basically because of the line move.

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Speaker 2: But still you're you're going there are I will say

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to the initial comment there, there's going to be times

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these this first. I don't know through December, I would say,

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Trigg that where your number could be way off, get

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it gets less and less is December as we get

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closer to Christmas. I remember sitting with you in the

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Encore a couple of years ago in lovely Boston, Massachusetts

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and saying, I, I'm like my number on b YU

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is off every I'm always like five points higher than

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the market as b YU team, and I just kept betting,

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and I just kept betting them and kept winning.

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Speaker 3: You were right, you were right. Yeah, you're right about

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that one for sure. I feel like you cash like

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six that's in a row with by the coops. I

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am severely unorganized today, as you can tell if we

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got no toll over my desk. We have the my

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my three hundred dollars a session dog trainer here.

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Speaker 2: Uh I write, I write fourteen fifty six on order

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eyes on the time stamps.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you have anything out? Did you have anything of

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the power ratings discussion.

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Speaker 5: Rough, Yeah, real quick. I'll just take the couple of

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seconds while Adam get myself in order there as a

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power ratings guy myself when it's off, and as you

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guys both said, it's not doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong.

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But what I'll do a lot of times if I'm unaware,

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I'll immediately go check injuries because the way people bet

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injuries nowadays is insane. So just make sure there's nothing

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injury wise that's causing the difference between your number and

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the number that's being offered in the market. That's all

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I'll add. Looks like Adam is ready to roll.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. All I was doing was trying to make a

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seamless transition to the next game, which is the second

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game down.

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Speaker 4: The second game.

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Speaker 1: Down, the game is here. What are we doing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I was looking for my number on Texas Tech

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and I found it. So game number two, second part

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of the Bahamar Championship.

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Speaker 4: Tonight, they'll they'll these teams will play again, I think

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in two days it is, or tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they're doing this year, but the

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second half of this is our other feature game.

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Speaker 4: Texas Tech wake Forest.

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Speaker 3: I see a couple people in the chat asking for it,

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and Rob, I'm gonna throw this to you. But all

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I was gonna say was this was one where I

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also made my number eleven. It opened eight, it's now

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up to eleven. But I don't necessarily feel like I

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missed a bet. And that's I guess the point I'm

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trying to make. Just because you see a numerical edge

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on a play does not mean you have to bet

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it like other things need to line up. I do

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sort of lean to the Texas Tech side, but it

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wasn't something I initially bet.

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Speaker 4: How about yourself?

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Speaker 5: This game, to me is pretty solid where wake Forest

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is concerned being the underdog rad I don't know that

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Memphis has the type of personnel to match up with

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Purdue in the opener, but I do think that wake

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Forest could cause and I'm a Texas Tech guy, so

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I'm gonna lean Texas Tech. Just don't know that I

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would lay this price for wake Forward. The antithesis of

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what Penny Hardaway said when I read the quote is

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their backcourt two first year guys, two first year transfers,

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one from Washington, one from Washington State, and they need

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to be blending together really, really well. The type of

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ball Steve Forbes is playing down there, as described by

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Grant McCaslin, head coach of Texas Tech, ultra aggressive, attack

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the rim, and they've showed it. They played Michigan right

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to the wire in Little Caesars, so they've got some

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experience on a neutral and that's more than a neutral

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right when you're going into Michigan territory and just playing

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at an arena where they probably have more people than

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you do. But four wake Forest. I think the guard

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play is solid, which always counts. I think their early

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tendency to speed up tempo Texas Tech has shown they'll

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handle because they played Illinois to the nail eighty one

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to seventy seven in an up tempo game. Texas Tech,

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I'll tell you, guys, I won't say their mirror image,

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but I will say they're very, very comparable to Purdue

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any efficiency. They don't really want to run. They'll run

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more than Purdue will for sure. And I'm gonna you know,

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thoughts just run right through my head here, Adam. It's crazy,

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But yesterday I said Texas Tech doesn't thrive on threes

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the way Alabama does when we were talking about the

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Alabama game. Yet, Texas Tech has hit a lot of

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threes this year, a pretty good three point shooting team

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led by a solid point guard Christian Anderson, of course JT.

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Topp and probably again the best player on the floor here,

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I think Texas Tech is the winner. But I think

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this will be high speed. If I take the Illinois

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game as a comp I see eighty one seventy seven eight.

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I think wake Forest is a little less defensive minded.

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I think wake Forest probably a little and this is

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tough to say after watching last night's game, which turned

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into an absolute foulfest, but it did involve Alabama. I

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think wake Forest has a good tendency to have bowels

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in their games because of their style rim attacking. So

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right now, at this point, because total has been bet

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up for three more points than what was scored in

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the Texas Tech Illinois game from month fifty eight, you

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want to get to one sixty one to cash here.

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I think it's real doable. I think that the wake

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Forest defense in Texas Tech, you know, I think they'll

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score their share and wake Forest probably gets there in

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a fast game. Give me over in that one, guys.

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Speaker 2: Trig second straight game here, that I too was a

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little bit higher, but not quite as high as you

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relative to the opener here, so I understood the line moves.

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It's a little high for me now. Rob mentioned wake

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Forest performance against Michigan that is still in my mind.

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I was they were up by seven in that game

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late regulation. That was an unlucky loss for the Demon

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Deacons in Detroit. So I mean it was not a

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we I guess. I don't know if you want to

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call it technically a tree it was. It was a

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true road game, basic, Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Detroit's a lot closer to ann Arbor than it is

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to Winston Salem. We all understand our geography. Rob mentioned

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Texas Tech hitting threes a little bit more than we're

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accustomed to seeing. I think they have hit. Yes, they

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have hit twelve or more in three of their four games.

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That's pretty good. And I gotta be honest with you.

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If they're hitting their threes here, it could be a

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long night for wake Forest because wake Forest is allowing

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teams to shoot very well inside the arc as well.

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Speaker 1: Rob mentioned the name.

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Speaker 2: JT Top and JT Top is not just He's gonna

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be the best player on the floor a lot of

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nights this season. He looked great in the losing effort

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against Illinois. If you're in one of those states that

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allows college play. In Ohio, we can't do it anymore.

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But if you're in one of those states that I

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would look JT top and overs here because I think

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he's gonna put up a very very big night in

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the box score for the Red Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't disagree with that. I think I've said

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it a couple times on this show. I am sort

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of all in on Texas Tech. Like from a from

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a long term perspective, they are a team. Like if

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you were to pin me down right now for a

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team that I was like, like, give me one team

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that you you will pick to make it to the

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Final four. Like if I just if you were like,

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you have to pick one obviously, like we know how

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hard it is to get to a Final four and

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all the stuff that you need to fall into place,

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Like the one I would like feel the most comfortable

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about picking would be Texas Tech. I just I love McCaslin,

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I love the.

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Speaker 4: Way they're coached.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I think they're really good. Now again, could

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waking around here and keep it within ten on a

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neutral maybe I would still think Texas Tech is the

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right side.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I am very high on the Red Raiders

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this year.

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Speaker 5: Real quick, guys, Just one thing to add to that.

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This is this turny is in the Bahamas where sometimes

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kids can get lost in the scenery. And Grant mccaslin's

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quote was, we're very, very excited to be here, more

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or less a business trip for them, which is good

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to know that their focus is not on, you know,

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the Bahamas itself and it's on the basketball court.

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Speaker 2: Was this not for the tournament trig where h you

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you provided inside infall and said, Georgia was at the

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tables all night last night.

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Speaker 3: You go they were, Yeah, and they were the they

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were awesome. First of all, we had a blast that

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year with the Georgia guys and they were just hey,

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they were just hanging out having a good time. And

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that is such a good point. And it's not to

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knock like listen, that was Mike White's first year. Early

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in the season, Georgia was projected to finish at the

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bottom of their league. Sometimes and this is like, this

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is like a very very important point that you need

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to take into betting these the next week or so.

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Sometimes these are team building trips. It's not everyone is

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there for business. Sometimes it's like, hey, we know we're

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trying to build some camaraderie within the team. It's a

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long season. Maybe we're maybe we're we have a new

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maybe we have a group of new players, and you know,

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so like let's say for a Memphis, maybe Penny goes

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into this and says, hey, it's a little bit more

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about like you know, like like building a bond with

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each other that it is maybe like going to get

478
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,880
a result because it's November, we have a whole season, like, yeah,

479
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,319
we're gonna play some basketball.

480
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: But I think that was George's m Now did they go?

481
00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:15,759
Speaker 3: They went zero and two and didn't cover an even

482
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,240
either game, But like look at Georgia now right, like

483
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:21,680
Mike White was playing the long game there, and look

484
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,119
at how good they were last year to the year before.

485
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,720
So that is something that you need to think when

486
00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:29,200
you're going to handicap a game and there's teams in

487
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,079
a tropical destination, it's gotta be on your mind. And

488
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,440
I think it makes that quote that that Rob dug

489
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:35,119
up right there?

490
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: That much more relevant.

491
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,519
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Brian.

492
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, two things.

493
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: Number one, nothing wrong with having a good time Rob

494
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:42,599
seeing me at the roulette table before.

495
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,559
Speaker 1: Okay, there's nothing wrong with that.

496
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: And then number two, that's gonna hit black eventually, Rob,

497
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,920
it's gonna hut.

498
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,799
Speaker 5: He wasn't real sound, but no, it was as well.

499
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,599
Speaker 2: It was also very late and it was the shank

500
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,960
of the evening. Number two Texas Tech continues to take

501
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,480
money here. This is actually just hit eleven at CIRCA.

502
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,240
So in a more serious note, all.

503
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,039
Speaker 4: Right, let's uh, let's move it along.

504
00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: Garth again the daily donation, We very very much appreciate it,

505
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,599
and Arth make sure that you leave with some insight

506
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,880
and get your info here. So he says, thoughts on

507
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,720
Miszoo South Dakota, He's leaning South Dakota team total under Uh,

508
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:26,799
I'm gonna go to Rob in a second, because I

509
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,480
know he knows Missouri. I'm gonna give some South Dakota

510
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,920
perspective first. So for me, South Dakota is a team

511
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,079
that I think I had going into the year. I

512
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:42,759
felt like they might be better than where the market

513
00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:45,880
had them, and then I sort of backed off of that.

514
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,599
A little bit because I knew a couple of guys

515
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,599
weren't gonna play right away. Now, one of those guys

516
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,759
that didn't play in the opener still hasn't played. That's

517
00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,000
Josiah Doetzler. I hope I'm saying that correct. I butchered

518
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:03,599
on this show regularly. But yeah, Josiah Goeltzler. I had

519
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,200
as who would be like the best player on this team.

520
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,039
When I look at player ratings, I look at the rosters,

521
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:12,160
I said, Okay, he's probably their highest rated player this year.

522
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,000
So part of the reason I sort of pumped the

523
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,640
brakes on South Dakota earlier in the season is because

524
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,200
he was out and there was another guy out who

525
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,319
I think has returned. To this point, I don't know

526
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,839
what his status is because it is it is difficult

527
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,920
to get injury info on some of these schools. All

528
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,720
I know is he has yet to play this year. Now,

529
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:36,839
with that being said, we are now five games into

530
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,839
the season, and so sometimes that starts to and this

531
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,039
is where I'll and I'll go to Rob to talk Missouri.

532
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:44,759
Speaker 4: But maybe he can touch in on this as well.

533
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 3: At some point the guy missing becomes less relevant, right

534
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,079
like the further you go down the road, the fact

535
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,480
that a team's missing their best player becomes less of

536
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:59,480
a talking point, right because now he hasn't even stepped

537
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,559
on the floor the year. We're three weeks into the season.

538
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,920
Like what South Dakota is right now is what they are.

539
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:10,599
Like him being hurt doesn't matter anymore now. If they

540
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,440
get him back at some point, that would represent a

541
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:16,119
nice boost to them. But I just don't think him

542
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,640
being out is a huge deal and that actually, like

543
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,400
I'm still so that makes me a little bit higher

544
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,559
than market on South Dakota still because recently fifteen point

545
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,400
win over Southern Indiana in a game that you know

546
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:30,480
they covered.

547
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: I think they were a seven and a half point favorite.

548
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: And then last time out they knocked off Western Michigan,

549
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:38,599
who's a team from the MAC of what would be

550
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:42,079
considered a bigger conference than their conference. So I like

551
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,559
what I've seen about them. But I feel like I've

552
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:46,759
been a little bit wrong on Missouri this year, and

553
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:49,079
Missouri might be better than I thought. So I'll kick

554
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,799
it to Rob for the Missouri perspective and also the

555
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:53,240
totals perspective for Garth.

556
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, first off, where Garth is concerned. I wouldn't disagree

557
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,039
here because this game is live to take on track

558
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:03,440
meet status where Missouri is a twenty eight and a

559
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,359
half point favorite. It really doesn't matter if they allow

560
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,559
seventy three points to South Dakota. It really doesn't. They

561
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:13,920
probably push one hundred here. I'm just going to go

562
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,920
back at him because we did talk about it a

563
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:18,119
couple of I don't know, it's probably more than a

564
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,440
couple of days ago now, but remember Nico Medbed brought

565
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,440
his Minnesota team in here, and that game was close

566
00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:27,440
for about I don't know, eighteen minutes in the first half,

567
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,480
maybe even at halftime it was still but it Missouri

568
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,319
busted that thing open, and I mean the floodgates kept

569
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:38,160
coming eighty three to sixty final. Miszoo has been fantastic

570
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,200
shooting the basketball so far this season. Again, you know

571
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:43,759
we did this show that day. This reminds me and

572
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:47,319
I'm sitting here, best player on Missouri for a couple

573
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,799
of years now, and I'm pretty sure if I go

574
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:51,960
back to tape, I kept saying, Mike Mitchell, who used

575
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,480
to be a basketball player, It's Mark Mitchell for Miszoo.

576
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,200
For those who wanted to correct me on that. Mark

577
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,039
Mitchell obviously, like we said about top and Mitchell probably

578
00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:02,799
the best player on the floor here. But the guards

579
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:07,160
are shooting. Dennis Gates, Brian, You'll remember back at Cleveland State,

580
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:10,559
Dennis Gates had some pretty good teams and when he

581
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,920
can get them to play his style, which I think

582
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,279
this is, and last year's team of the year before

583
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:17,880
we're pretty good too. But I think this is the

584
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,319
closest to what he wants out of a basketball team

585
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,200
this year. They're running their shooting threes, they get to

586
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,680
the rim. Defense I think still has to be answered.

587
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,640
I don't think that question has been answered because I

588
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,640
have to tell you guys, I don't think Minnesota posed

589
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,359
a real threat as of yet. Offensively. I watched that

590
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,920
game in Minnesota just didn't look like they had much

591
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,880
to offer on the offense evevent So again, to Guard's point,

592
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,680
I think seventy three is very doable by South Dakota.

593
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,680
They're gonna run, They're gonna score. Missouri's gonna score theirs too.

594
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,319
The question for me becomes, do I think it's gonna

595
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:55,920
get over one seventy three? Do I think we wind

596
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,559
up in a ninety nine to seventy six territories something

597
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,400
like that to get yourself over. I'm not really positive

598
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,119
on that yet. Don't want to lay twenty eight and

599
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:05,720
a half. I think maybe Garth is on the best

600
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:09,000
angle of this game. Just take the dog that can run,

601
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:11,160
that can score a little bit, and Adam, I want

602
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,279
to just go back to your point real quick here.

603
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,720
The further away you get from having a star player,

604
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:19,960
the less it matters. And then I think if it

605
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,519
really gets far away and then he returns, it matters.

606
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:27,359
But maybe not from a positive perspective, because to get

607
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640
fit in and become cohesive right away just jumping back

608
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,839
into the lineup sometimes it doesn't work right away. It

609
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,440
takes two or three games. So we'll see how South

610
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,440
Dakota's roster goes forward. But I would say Garth, I'd

611
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,480
be on your side South Dakota over seventy two and

612
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,559
a half.

613
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,119
Speaker 2: You talk about Dennis Gates in his final days with

614
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,279
Cleveland State. Rob I was actually at Dennis Gates's final

615
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:53,119
home game for Cleveland State, and Dread will get a

616
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,880
laugh out of this because there was in a lot.

617
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,720
There was a scoreboard malfunction at the Wolves Center. The

618
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:06,279
Lovely Burt and iris Wolfstein Center and me and my body.

619
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:09,240
We were looking at Dennis Gates as this scoreboard failure

620
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:12,839
was really embarrassing. They had the PA guy calling the

621
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,960
score out for the last ten minutes of the game.

622
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:17,920
It was like a middle school game. And you could

623
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,519
just look into at Dennis Gates's face and he was

624
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:22,400
looking up at the ceiling and he was like, I

625
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,319
am leaving this program as soon as soon as someone

626
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:27,440
will offer me a lot of money to go elsewhere.

627
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,640
And that was Missouri that picked up. I think Dennis

628
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,559
State Gates is a great coach. Cleveland State was lucky

629
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:32,960
to have him. But yeah, I thought it was kind

630
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,519
of a funny anecdote to Gates's final home game at

631
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:37,599
Cleveland State, He's like, I gotta get out of here, man.

632
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,000
We can't even get a real scoreboard at this place.

633
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,599
The scoreboard's bad. Anyone who's been to the Wolstein Center

634
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,799
in Cleveland knows it's a high school scoreboard anyway, and

635
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:47,759
the fact that it malfunctioned.

636
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: Was kind of embarrassing, really quite frankly for the program.

637
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 5: So he left.

638
00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:54,519
Speaker 2: My thought on this game here Gates, his current team, Missouri,

639
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,720
taken on some I thought the number was too high

640
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:58,839
when I looked at it. I think this number is

641
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:02,039
too high. South Dakota can score. Rob kind of alluded

642
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,799
to that they are a team now, they're kind of

643
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:08,240
a middle of the road Summit League team. Trigg correct

644
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,000
me if I'm wrong. They're on the preseason projections, but

645
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,880
we know they can score. So far, they're averaging eighty

646
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,480
nine points per game. They've got eight guys averaging at

647
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,160
least or close to seven per game. So you talk

648
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,240
about maybe some guys being out, well, they've got a

649
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,079
lot of guys contributing here do the Coyotes. And I

650
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,200
just think this number seems a little high. To total

651
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,440
is an interesting handicap just because you've got two teams

652
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,240
that obviously can you put it in the basket. But

653
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,319
South Dakota's actually four and out of the under this

654
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,799
year in their line games. But which speaks to how

655
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,880
high these totals have been. This is obviously a very

656
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,319
high total as well. So I really got nothing as

657
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:48,599
far as the total is concerned. But I did think

658
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,559
this spread was a touch high for Maszoo.

659
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, very slight numerical edge for me to South Dakota

660
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,839
State and in the context of the Summit League, I

661
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:00,559
do think they.

662
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: Are are undervalued. So do with that what you will.

663
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:08,119
Speaker 3: Jay buff coming through don't gifted ten Wager Talk memberships.

664
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: Thank you for that.

665
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: That is incredible And we're gonna get I know he's headed.

666
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: To Ithaca tonight. Hopefully you get there early.

667
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: Go down to the commons at the Alehouse.

668
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 4: It's a great spot down in the Commons there.

669
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,279
Speaker 3: But what he's gonna be in town for is Colgate Cornell,

670
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,720
and uh, we got to help him find a winner

671
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:31,119
here on this one, I wish. So I'll set this

672
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,240
up for you guys, because I have some intel here.

673
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,039
It's not it's not really leading me toward a pick,

674
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:40,359
but maybe maybe it'll help lead. Maybe it puts Rob

675
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,680
on a totals angle here because so I know Rob

676
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,960
that you like to you like to look at coaches

677
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,319
that like there's a different coach in you know, in

678
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:54,720
a and now it's like maybe a different scheme from

679
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:58,759
the prior year. Well, sometimes there is a player that

680
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,559
totally change is the way a team likes to play,

681
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,559
and that's what Colgate has had the last couple of years.

682
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:08,000
So Colgate had a center by the name of Jeff

683
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,839
Woodward the past couple of years, who is a six

684
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:16,799
to eleven, like plotting big, really really slowed things down.

685
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:20,240
There was just no like, there was no way around it.

686
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,720
Like if he was on the floor, Colgate had to

687
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,480
accommodate him.

688
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:24,759
Speaker 4: They had to slow the game down.

689
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:27,519
Speaker 3: But when you're in the Patriot League, if a six

690
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,319
to eleven guy wants to play on your team, like,

691
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,279
you're gonna make sure that that word like, you're just

692
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,920
gonna have to work that in because it's not every

693
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,440
day that a team like Colgate gets a six to

694
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960
eleventh center that has a little touch around the rim

695
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,559
and can score points. So the reason I bring that up,

696
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:44,160
and the reason I'll sort of kick it to Rob

697
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,160
here to give us a totals perspective, he's not on

698
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,680
the team anymore. And what I saw on Monday night

699
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:54,079
against Siena was a Colgate defense that was flying around

700
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,960
the floor, so much more athletic than they were in

701
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,160
the last couple of years, because the year before it

702
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,119
was Keegan Record and they were they were big. Now

703
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:04,960
Colgate's a little bit smaller, They're much more athletic. The

704
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,960
one three one zone that Matt Lango likes to play

705
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,480
is much more effective. They they're athletes, they can guard.

706
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:15,199
The reason that matters here is you have Cornell is

707
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,440
just gonna run up and down the floor. You have

708
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,639
to be athletic to be able to guard that team.

709
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,159
And so Lango will extend that one three one zone

710
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,880
a little bit. It's crazy to say it, but like

711
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,760
this may be too many points for an over Like

712
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,000
this game might go under just based on the fact

713
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:37,320
that Colgate might be equipped to handle Cornell's pace. And

714
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,360
I'll tell you this about Cornell because I caught that

715
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:42,840
Army game yesterday. This is a sloppy verse. This is

716
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,719
like TMU Cornell a little bit. Like it's like the

717
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,320
tm MoU version of the Brian Earl Coronells teams, where

718
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,199
it's just they're just not as good. They're not as crisp,

719
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,079
they don't finish as well, they're not as good as scorers.

720
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,239
I don't know, Rob, what do you think is it's

721
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,440
not probably not what jaybel buff want wants to hear

722
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,159
being in attendance Brian. If Brian Power were going to

723
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,639
this game, he'd be all over it. I kind of

724
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:07,519
think this one goes under it's a huge number.

725
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 5: It's the way the market sees it. Early on Adam,

726
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,960
we see about a three point move downward here, sixty

727
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:20,960
five down to one sixty two. Cornell, obviously pace is

728
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,639
a big thing at ninth in the country in seconds

729
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:29,480
per possession, and certainly shooting the ball real well. But

730
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,079
the defensive aspects for Colgate well taken. If you're forcing

731
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:36,920
people to shoot tougher shots and they're accustomed to and

732
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,119
it's not Again, I've used this term a lot, but

733
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,840
in fast paced games, broken floor, open floor usually leads

734
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,840
to open threes. We saw it a lot last night

735
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,639
in the Alabama game. Guys got the ball, they run

736
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,639
to the ball defensively, one quick pass on the break,

737
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,280
and that guy's standing wide open for three. It happens

738
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,840
a lot. But if Coldgate's capable of getting back and

739
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,480
defending and slowing that stuff down, then maybe they stop

740
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:06,039
Cornell from scoring. The thing is Cornell's relentless, they won't

741
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,880
stop running at you. And the other side of the

742
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,360
coin is guys Coldgate could be a play here because

743
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,159
Cornell just refuses to play defense. So you've got the

744
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:21,039
antithesis on the other side. Colgate possibly enough scoring here

745
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,360
in this game to get under the number of four

746
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,079
and a half, four or five. It's funny that I

747
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,320
would look at this more from a side perspective than

748
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,679
a total. But I do think, just hearing your descriptive

749
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,719
of Colgate defensively Adam Matt Lanngel, and he is a

750
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,320
really good coach, it's really possible here that Colgate gets

751
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,719
the job done. They have to make more shots than

752
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,920
they've been making, and they would have to stop Cornell

753
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,239
because if you just look at analytics statistics, you're going

754
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,159
to lean toward the Cornell's side. We'll see how it

755
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,639
matches up. But I couldn't disagree with the line move

756
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:53,760
here total or excuse me, the total move here coming

757
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,840
down after all Cornell against Army one fifty nine. I

758
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,360
will say this one last thing. Coldgate pulled Drexel into

759
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,239
a ninety to eighty three game, and Drexel has not

760
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,639
wanted to run for years. That's one of the slowest

761
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:14,480
teams perennially in college basketball. So that game went ninety

762
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,480
to eighty three. Colgate got to ninety in that one

763
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,320
on That's an interesting handicap here, but perhaps Coldgate plus points.

764
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:25,679
Speaker 3: Is a good look, I'm with you, Rob, That's how

765
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:27,840
I look at it. My number came out, I think

766
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,519
I was like at four and a half or something,

767
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:31,679
so I didn't show like like a huge edge off

768
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:32,880
the opener of four.

769
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 4: But I'll point this out.

770
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: Cornell basically like every game the last few games has

771
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,280
taken money. At some point throughout the day, they the

772
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,920
move on. The Cornell number against Army was like five

773
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,440
points and they didn't cover it. And oftentimes these groups

774
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,440
that will move lines will come back to that team

775
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,320
the next time around. So like, let's say Cornell gets

776
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,559
popped at some point and suddenly that's up to six

777
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:02,199
and a half or set, then I would one thousand

778
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:05,360
percent punch back with Colgate if I was getting like

779
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,360
a drastically better number. Seth says he likes the under listen, Like,

780
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,280
I want to point out that, like the total in

781
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,159
this game being one sixty two down from one sixty five,

782
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,119
Like even if you get the pace, like, you still

783
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:23,199
have to be pretty efficient offensively to get one sixty two,

784
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,280
even in a fast paced game. And that's why I

785
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,679
question either team being good enough offensively to be efficient

786
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,320
enough to get to one sixty two. That's why I

787
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,719
lean a little bit toward uh toward the under right there.

788
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,039
Speaker 4: Huh Okay, we.

789
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,639
Speaker 3: Are, we are rolling along, but we have not touched

790
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:42,679
on a parlay leg yet. Uh it's that we were

791
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:44,320
still doing it. We know, we we've been on a

792
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,559
little bit of a cold run with the parlay, but

793
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:48,960
still up I think eight point two to two units

794
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,559
on the year. So uh, you know, we we've we

795
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:54,119
built ourselves a nice little cushion, as I said, And

796
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,159
I'm gonna go to Brian Power to see if he

797
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:59,199
is ready to kick off Thursday's parlay.

798
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 4: Uh choice to you.

799
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe they call that playing with house money.

800
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:06,079
We built up a nice reservoir here that first week.

801
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,119
This is going to be horrible. No one's gonna like

802
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:10,119
this play at all. I'm just gonna warn you right now.

803
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,039
We're gonna go with Tennessee State getting an absolutely massive

804
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:14,639
number at Tennessee.

805
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,679
Speaker 1: This is just a straight numbers play, Drake.

806
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,079
Speaker 2: Look, can I promise you that this will not be

807
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,440
a sweat, hold your butt cheeks kind of game at

808
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,000
the end like last night well was for me with

809
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:28,800
Middle Tennessee against Michigan. No, I can't promise you that guys,

810
00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:32,000
I just made this number significantly lower. And if you

811
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:36,360
want to kind of put something behind this, play here

812
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,480
taken the big number. We'll check this out. Tennessee, they've

813
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,440
started the year four and ZHO four double digit wins. Well,

814
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,599
what do they have upcoming?

815
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,159
Speaker 1: Guys? They've got a trip to Las Vegas.

816
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:49,079
Speaker 2: Now we understand the price gougeon that's going on in

817
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:50,920
that city right now, we've all heard about it on

818
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,480
social media, rent about it. But these Tennessee players, I

819
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,119
think are going to be looking forward to that trip.

820
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,760
And look at some of these games that Tennessee has

821
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,880
on tap gag they'll be playing over the next two

822
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,599
we'll call it three weeks. They're gonna they've got three

823
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,280
top ten opponents on the doc Houston, that game will

824
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,280
be in Vegas, and then they've got Illinois. They're gonna

825
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,719
be playing Louisville. They're traveling up to your neck of

826
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,840
the woods, trig the carrier Dome. I just think they

827
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,199
kind of phone this one in. This is a huge,

828
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,119
huge number to be like, there has to be everything

829
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:30,519
has to go right to cover a number of thirty

830
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:35,639
two and a half. So Tennessee State, let's just hold

831
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:38,519
the nose and take the points. We'll check the score

832
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,679
at nine pm Eastern. Hopefully they stayed within thirty.

833
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,199
Speaker 4: I'll put something else behind this for you, Brian.

834
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: This was the same exact spot that Syracuse was in

835
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:50,159
the other night when we took Mondmuth plus twenty two.

836
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,519
Syracuse is headed out to Vegas as well to play

837
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:56,880
in this. Like I think it's like the players something.

838
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,039
There's a whole bunch of teams heading out there to

839
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,400
play multiple games in multiple days. It's almost like it's

840
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,920
almost like uprooting the Maui Invitational as like the premiere

841
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,960
sort of MTE that all of these teams.

842
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 4: Are going to.

843
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:12,519
Speaker 3: So that was part of my part of my argument

844
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:15,480
two nights ago when I use Mommouth in the parlay

845
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:18,320
and as a client play plus twenty two, and that

846
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,840
game was like a two point game.

847
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,679
Speaker 4: That was that game right down.

848
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,159
Speaker 3: To the wire. I'm not saying Tennessee State is taking

849
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,079
Tennessee down to the wire, but certainly they can stay

850
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,599
within what is it, thirty two thirty two and a half?

851
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's some thirty two and a half's out there.

852
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:35,719
But let's let's make let's let's let's call it thirty

853
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,719
two for the show. I grab it. I disagree with you, Okay,

854
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,000
I like it.

855
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 4: Let's uh, let's bring Robin.

856
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: If you want to comment on that, you can, But

857
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,639
if you don't, we can go to your parlay leg

858
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:50,679
if you'd like to. If you'd like to throw them

859
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:51,880
out there for us.

860
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 5: Let's do that, guys, because I have something here that

861
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,119
I like quite a bit ahead my eye on it

862
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:00,719
since their last game, and I it's a bounce back

863
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,199
team total. I love these team totals, and I love

864
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,320
teams that can score, obviously because I want to play over.

865
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,719
But I'm gonna go to the Elon Miami of Florida game.

866
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,599
You know, Miami of Florida played Florida last doubting lose

867
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:17,119
eighty two to sixty eight to Battle of I guess

868
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:22,679
you would say for Miami under Jay Lucas, they were

869
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,000
testing themselves where do we sit in the grand scheme

870
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,719
of things? And they found out eighty two to sixty

871
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,920
eight their fast paced style, they're hot shooting, got cooled

872
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,199
off by the Florida defense and the Florida front line

873
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,239
in that game was really dominant. But they're gonna play

874
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,159
Elon here, who doesn't play a heck of a lot

875
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,840
of defense, the team that Miami can force tempo with,

876
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,440
the team that Miami can dictate how things are playing,

877
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,960
the team that Miami can score against. The number here

878
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:55,840
didn't seem overwhelming to me. I'll get the current I'm

879
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,840
showing ninety one and a half. I think I was.

880
00:42:58,079 --> 00:42:59,599
In fact, it's been bet up now. Guys. It was

881
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,360
ninety and a half. Now it's ninety one and a

882
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,400
half and maybe on the rise a little bit. So

883
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,760
I would say, if you're following our lead here on

884
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,440
these games, probably want to get Miami's team total now.

885
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,440
But ninety one and a half I was looking more

886
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,519
like in the ninety four range. Didn't get there. They

887
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:20,840
may get one hundred tonight because of what happened. A

888
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,960
it's a step down the defensive class. What you saw

889
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,679
against Florida and especially against penetrating that frontline, you're not

890
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,159
gonna see here against Elon. And secondly, Florida can do

891
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,360
what Miami does best as far as tempo is concerned,

892
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,119
and do it better and they showed it. So for me,

893
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,360
I think in a bounce back game and a step

894
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,079
down in class, the team that wants to play a

895
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:41,159
lot of offense a team that's on their home floor. Here,

896
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,440
I'm gonna take Miami team total up and over ninety

897
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,039
one and a half.

898
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: I'll let Brian chime in the second. But I rarely

899
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:52,840
love a team total like because I don't really handicap them. Rob.

900
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,679
Speaker 4: I love this call by you.

901
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,679
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give my opinion, and I'm gonna let r

902
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:01,199
because my opinion also includes a Brian power story, so

903
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:02,199
I'll let him follow it up.

904
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,639
Speaker 4: So he has no idea what I'm gonna say.

905
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,679
Speaker 2: But adults and I'm very nervous those there's a lot

906
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:09,480
of funny Brian power stories out there.

907
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: So Brian and I had court access and everything when

908
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,280
we were at Toledo, so we were in there early.

909
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,639
We were standing on and near the court, and there

910
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,800
was one point where Brian got caught off guard because

911
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,960
he like looked to his right and Matthew Van Coleman

912
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:26,760
was standing right there. He's seven foot four, and I

913
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,039
he kind of like it was it was. It was

914
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,960
similar to like when Prez saw Tokyo Brandon's new look

915
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,280
for the first time when he debuted it on Wager

916
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,440
Talk Today, and his jaw just hit the floor like

917
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:39,480
that's like, remember we were standing.

918
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Right there archives yes, yes, we're star by the corner.

919
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,079
Speaker 3: And you kind of looked and you were like, oh

920
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,400
my god, Like he is that is a big dude.

921
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:50,519
And the reason that that applies here is Matthew Van

922
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:54,440
Coleman came from Elon, Okay, and last year this was

923
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,800
a he He got to a bad Elon team and

924
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,960
what they were able to do last year was put

925
00:45:01,039 --> 00:45:04,000
him under the hoop and extend their zone out past

926
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,039
the three point line. And I know this because I

927
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:08,199
was down at Elon last year and one of their

928
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,320
coaches kind of explained how excited they were about having

929
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,119
the seven foot four just monster that could clean the glass,

930
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,039
protect the glass, or protect the rim, and they were

931
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:23,079
able to get these guards out and play this very

932
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,079
very like high pressure type zone, similar to the zone

933
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:31,679
you're seeing Marshall play. Now that they have Matthew Van Coleman,

934
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,639
why is that relevant here? Because Elon doesn't have any

935
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:37,639
of those guys anymore now, and they just they're just

936
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,679
not nearly as competent defensively, but a lot of their

937
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,239
numbers are still based on last year's results. So Elon's

938
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,000
a far worst defensive team this year. And that's why

939
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:51,480
I think Rob's team total over here with Miami makes

940
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,440
all the sense in the world, because this is just

941
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:58,880
not the Matthew Van Comen, Simpkins brothers, like Nick Dorn

942
00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:01,320
type pressure defense and said Elon had last year. None

943
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,400
of those guys are still there. So I think Rob

944
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,400
found a good one here with Miami.

945
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: You just real quick, I'm just put some numbers, some

946
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:10,880
Ken Pop numbers to what we're saying here, these stories,

947
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,039
these anecdotes, if you will. Miami's top eighty in the

948
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:17,480
country both in adjusted temple and offensive rating, Elon three

949
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,679
one hundred and forty third in defensive rating. That is

950
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,280
not a recipe for a nice night at the defensive.

951
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,519
Speaker 1: End for Elon.

952
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,159
Speaker 3: All right, let's move it along. We got thirteen minutes left,

953
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:35,679
and I kind of have an idea of what I'm

954
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,079
gonna go within the parlay, but I'm gonna I'm gonna

955
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:40,440
hold it for a minute. We'll see, let's see if

956
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,440
we can get let's see if we can get another

957
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,400
game in here. Actually, yeah, you know, I'm I'm gonna

958
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,679
do it. Like, here's the deal. If you're getting in late,

959
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:53,599
if You're a game. I'm actually shocked that no one

960
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,119
asked about the day games. I thought for sure, yeah

961
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,280
someone would. Maybe they don't know about it, but we

962
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,239
do have daytime basketball today, and I'm going to use

963
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,840
one of these games in the parlay. So listen if

964
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,599
you if you get in late, like after I think

965
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,719
three o'clock Eastern, just just play a two teamer with

966
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,519
with Brian and Rob's plays, and I like their play

967
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:15,920
so much.

968
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 4: You can you can play play.

969
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:21,039
Speaker 3: It even bigger if you want to to offset, you know,

970
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,760
you just just just just do that because I'm going

971
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,880
to use one of my client plays here and I'll

972
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,199
close out the parlay with Illinois Chicago who they are

973
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,800
playing High Point, and this game is part of an MTE.

974
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,920
My head, my brain is scrambled with where some of

975
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,039
the these games are right now, because I've been like

976
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:44,480
looking at all the different ones. I believe these guys

977
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,679
are in dat.

978
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:48,639
Speaker 4: Yes, very yes.

979
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: This is a spring break destination in nineteen ninety.

980
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is this is one of the MPT.

981
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,519
This is during the day today, so they'll be the

982
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,239
This will be the second game probably goes off, I

983
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:10,480
don't know, probably about three o'clock Eastern, and I am

984
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:15,679
I played Illinois Chicago here. I believe I took nine.

985
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,079
I'll have to double check that it's either nine or

986
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:22,320
nine and a half, but we'll call it nine for

987
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,519
the show because I think you could you could probably

988
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:28,320
find I think it's eight and a half some places.

989
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,039
I'm pretty sure for clients, I took nine h three

990
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:33,400
percent played for me, it's gonna close.

991
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:34,679
Speaker 4: Out my my leg of the parlay.

992
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: I assume you guys want some daytime action, so I

993
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,360
decided to give this one out. And what I want

994
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,559
to talk about with Illinois, well really with with with

995
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,239
high Point is high Points becoming a team I'm willing

996
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,199
to fade when they aren't playing like the bottom feeders.

997
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,719
And we actually talked about this high Point team very

998
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,559
briefly on Monday. I said, before that game, I was like,

999
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:00,000
this is the type of game that High Point just

1000
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,840
slaughter someone. And they came out and won that game

1001
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,320
by forty three points against Canisius.

1002
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 4: The last few years high Point.

1003
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: Now high Point has money, Okay, they have a lot

1004
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,760
of resources and money, so they don't need to go

1005
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,119
play the by games like a lot of other teams

1006
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:17,360
in there.

1007
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: In the Big South.

1008
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: Do High Point puts together a schedule where it's a

1009
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,760
lot of teams that are that are in there sort

1010
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,639
of like a lot of mid majors, a lot of

1011
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:30,360
teams that are in their sort of you know, weight class,

1012
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,880
if you will, teams that will actually come and play

1013
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,760
them at home because they get a great turnout at home.

1014
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:38,960
And what that means is they don't they really play

1015
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,920
a lot of like Q three, Q four type opponents.

1016
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,280
And so I think that and the fact that High

1017
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,119
Point went to the NCAA Tournament last year twenty nine

1018
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:50,519
and six, best season, one of the best seasons in

1019
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,000
the history of the school. Believe it was their first

1020
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:56,880
NCAA Tournament appearance. That and the fact that they smash

1021
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,159
some of these lesser teams I think has inflated them

1022
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,960
sort of significantly. Here at this point, their head coach

1023
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:06,119
is now at Creighton waiting to be the next head

1024
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:09,079
coach when when McDermott retires. So it's a first year

1025
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:12,079
coach in Flynn Clayman, who, you know, maybe he'll be

1026
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:14,519
a great coach, but it's still his first year. The

1027
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:18,159
roster on paper looks really good, but they also got

1028
00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:22,519
throttled by UAB. I don't mind that UAB team. Other

1029
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:26,159
people say UAB aren't very good. They lost to Alabama State,

1030
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,360
so that's a you know, it's a little concerning that

1031
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,719
high Point was not really in that game, lost by

1032
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,239
like sixteen. For me, here you're playing a team from

1033
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,639
the Missouri Valley. You're catching nine points. Illinois. Chicago's got

1034
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:42,239
like three or four freshmen that have looked awesome so far.

1035
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,199
I guarantee that wasn't baked in to their number coming

1036
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:49,440
into the season neutral floor down in Daytona. I'm sure

1037
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:52,480
high Point will have more fans in Chicago. They'll travel,

1038
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,800
but how much does that really matter? I took the

1039
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,199
nine points three percent play little daytime basketball for you

1040
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,440
guys with the flames the you I see.

1041
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: The thousand dollars tuition per year at high Point. I

1042
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,159
just looked it up while you were talking.

1043
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: About Yeah, excuse me, that's yeah, that's wow, fifty thousand

1044
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,440
dollars a year.

1045
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: Rob.

1046
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm not looking I'm not looking for I'm not saying

1047
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:17,280
my daughter's going to high Point.

1048
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: But Matt, I'll tell you what that cost to college.

1049
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:20,480
I'm not looking forward to that.

1050
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,119
Speaker 4: It's ten years.

1051
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: Ak's wife went there like two and he goes down

1052
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,360
to games every once in a while. Him and I

1053
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,880
went to a game last year. What a campus, one

1054
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,239
of the nicest. I think it's probably the nicest campus

1055
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:35,960
I've seen to this point. So, uh yeah, that'll that'll

1056
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,320
be my parlay leg and we still have Well, first

1057
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,599
of all, do you do either of you want to

1058
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,320
I know Rob's a Missouri Valley guy. See if he

1059
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,960
wants to weigh in and all. If not, we'll move on.

1060
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,360
I think you're mute to Rob.

1061
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,519
Speaker 5: Sorry my bad. I was just going to weigh in

1062
00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:58,199
on Brian's woes about future college tuition. When my second

1063
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,280
son went to Missoo. He went there for the journalism

1064
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,280
school and actually took a summer job with the radio station,

1065
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,320
which cut that tuition to in state, which at the

1066
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,199
time Brian knocked it from forty two k. I think

1067
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,079
Miszoo was that year down to eleven because he was

1068
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:18,079
in state. So make sure you have your children get

1069
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:20,639
jobs wherever they want to go is going to stay

1070
00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:23,440
there for the summer. And we know credit cards, there's

1071
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,719
credit debit card schemes you can use in case you

1072
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,119
want to sneak out of the state, so you can

1073
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:28,960
you can get it done.

1074
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: Well, I know what I'll be talking about after the show.

1075
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: I got one way. I see my buddy Keith, buy

1076
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,320
you bets Landry and the chat.

1077
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,039
Speaker 4: What's up Keith?

1078
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: He pointed out that, you know, high Point on a

1079
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:43,400
neutral not as powerful. He also pointed out that we

1080
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,880
we sort of leaned ua B and I think he

1081
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,679
was on UAB in the game that they crushed high Point.

1082
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:53,199
But he also would like Rob Venos gain total of

1083
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,559
the day by requests. So I'm gonna go to Rob, Rob,

1084
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,679
do you have a full game total that you have

1085
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,679
a strong enough opinion on that you would like to

1086
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,119
to sort of throw that game out there on the show?

1087
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,039
Speaker 1: You I like that.

1088
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:11,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all right though, because I can come up

1089
00:53:11,679 --> 00:53:14,920
with that. You know, I'm gonna say this, guys, we

1090
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:18,760
talked about it earlier. I'm torn between a couple because

1091
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,639
I know Keith is leaning on me here. I'm gonna

1092
00:53:21,639 --> 00:53:24,519
you know what I'm gonna say, The Texas Tech Week

1093
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:27,719
Forest game that we talked about earlier gets over that

1094
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,079
number of one sixty and a half and it's been

1095
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:33,800
bet hard already. So as we like to say on

1096
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:39,719
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1097
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,960
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1098
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,960
want to take the ass end of the line, but

1099
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:48,280
here I think the ass end of the line still

1100
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,199
has wiggle room. So I'll leave you with that. I'll

1101
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:53,519
tell you what else I was considering was K State

1102
00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:57,039
in Mississippi State over Kansas State. Just they're a one

1103
00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:00,679
way ticket this year, all offense, nothing more than that.

1104
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,199
So take your choice, Keith. But I think both of

1105
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,880
those semi high profile games are pretty high profile games

1106
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:08,559
probably get their way over the total.

1107
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: Brian, Let's let's go to that game K State Mississippi State.

1108
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:13,519
Speaker 4: Do you have an opinion there?

1109
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 2: There was a total I wanted to throw that I

1110
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,239
was looking at as well. Again, you know we talk

1111
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,679
about not want to not want to take the ass

1112
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,519
end of a line movement. In Robsword, they're Long Island

1113
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:29,639
and Fordham. People are betting the under like they know

1114
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:33,119
the score the final of that game, and that was

1115
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:35,159
cut sight and I just bring it up because my

1116
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,639
initial read was to the under in that matchup, So

1117
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,599
I just kind of wanted to bring that to people's attention.

1118
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: I just want to.

1119
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: You know, obviously our goal here is just to highlight

1120
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,800
spots that people could check out for themselves. So that's

1121
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,880
one I think people should look at an under there

1122
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:53,039
in Long Island Fordham. No, I will not be in

1123
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:55,000
the building, but I did own an fu half to

1124
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:57,239
nineteen ninety eight rounds, which is air.

1125
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: I'll stay on that game. Second, I actually was just

1126
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,679
throwing I really don't have a even though I have

1127
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,840
a k State hoodie on right now, I don't have

1128
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,119
a huge opinion on that game. So I'd actually rather

1129
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,920
kind of throw my opinion out on Long Island and

1130
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,039
Fordham because I guess if you tune into this show

1131
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:20,599
late and you miss my client play on Illinois Chicago

1132
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:22,639
and you're looking for a leg of the parlay like

1133
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,599
the one I was actually probably gonna use in place

1134
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:27,400
of that would have been Fordam on the money line,

1135
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,920
and so like again I haven't played this yet. I

1136
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,119
feel like I missed the number a little bit here.

1137
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:37,760
I think it was minus Fordam open like minus one

1138
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,400
got up to like three. I think now it's back

1139
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,880
to two and a half. But it's something I'm sort

1140
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,800
of thinking about today, and the reason I'm thinking about

1141
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,599
fordam as a play not only today, but someone I

1142
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:49,480
want to play on in.

1143
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 4: The very near future.

1144
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: Is I think they're a lot better than what they

1145
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,840
showed to start the season that lost to New Jersey

1146
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,559
Institute of Technology. They had another bet result, but they

1147
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:04,719
played Iona as good as anyone has played Iona yet

1148
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,800
and that was a very, very competitive game. They ended

1149
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,840
up covering the number. I believe Iona kind of came

1150
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,199
back in that game and won by five. And Fordham

1151
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:16,639
has a guy that I'm sure Robal will weigh in

1152
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:19,280
on because he's he comes from the West Coast, Mike Magpio.

1153
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:22,639
He was always such a good had such good U

1154
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,760
see riverside teams. He's someone that I expect to like

1155
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,840
come to Fordham and like just do big things. So

1156
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,639
the fact that he got off to a slow start

1157
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:32,679
in his first couple of games, like listen, he came

1158
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:35,559
across the country, he's trying to rebuild a program.

1159
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 4: I'm almost gonna give him a pass there.

1160
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,559
Speaker 3: For me, the effort from Fordham in that Iona game

1161
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:42,800
is enough to say like this team has some like

1162
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,079
betting upside. I think they win this game. I'm just

1163
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:48,079
a little annoyed at myself for missing the number here.

1164
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,519
It's the only reason I haven't played it yet. LU

1165
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:52,559
comes off like a huge win. I think they just

1166
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,440
sort of ran James Madison out of their little building.

1167
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,719
Now they have to go to Roe's thrill, I believe

1168
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,280
is where this game is over in the Bronx. I

1169
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,920
use a good spot before him, and I think they're

1170
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,519
under value.

1171
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 5: I laugh here while you're talking at him, because I'm

1172
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,159
checking the odds board and we just had Keith Landry

1173
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:14,719
ask for a couple of totals and the Kansas State

1174
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,559
Mississippi State total just went over by a full point.

1175
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,440
You got pushed up by a full point. So I'm

1176
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,800
just wondering if Keith unloaded his pockets on the Kansas

1177
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,800
State Mississippi State game enough to push that total up in.

1178
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,039
Speaker 1: Mississippi State too.

1179
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,239
Speaker 2: As far as side, there's a lot, there's a lot

1180
00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:34,079
of movement there. That game is being played in Kansas City.

1181
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:35,599
For those keeping score at home.

1182
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have a really strong read.

1183
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:42,119
Speaker 2: I don't want to get on here, I guess, you know,

1184
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:44,760
just because people did ask the question.

1185
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: I just don't have a very strong take on that game.

1186
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,679
Speaker 2: Like I would feel a little guilty looking into this

1187
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:54,000
camera here and telling our fine viewers bet the game

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00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,960
this way, because I'm not betting that game, I'll be

1189
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,239
honest with you, And I don't even really have a

1190
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,000
very strong lean.

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00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:01,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough one.

1192
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: I think it's especially at the current number. My lean

1193
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,039
would have been Mississippi State because I'm just not at

1194
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:10,199
all high on this Kansas State team. But the way

1195
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,840
Kansas State plays, they're like they're gonna eviscerate some some

1196
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:17,920
teams from three just because like that, Like they are

1197
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,519
just bombing threes at this point, and so they just

1198
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:24,599
struggled with Tulsa. They just let cal come back. Like

1199
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:28,360
at some point, you know they're gonna come out and

1200
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,280
just put put it on someone and then you're gonna

1201
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,079
want to bet against them in the next game, because

1202
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,559
I just don't think they can consistently do that. But

1203
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,920
they have it in them Abbey bash here or something.

1204
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,719
I mean, they are chucking threes right now.

1205
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: If a wrong team shot horribly from three against Mississippi

1206
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,519
State last year, I think they had one of the

1207
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,280
better three point defenses in the country, if memory serves

1208
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,199
me correct. That kept them in a lot of games.

1209
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,519
So I don't know if this is the game where

1210
00:58:50,599 --> 00:58:52,960
Kansas State may go crazy from three.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's really and again this is gonna be

1212
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:00,320
the case with a lot of these like neutral or

1213
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,039
I know it's in Kansas City, it's still a neutral

1214
00:59:03,199 --> 00:59:07,280
like yeah, the fans there, it's still neutral, not their gym. Yeah,

1215
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,239
these these games can be tough, man, the mtes. It's

1216
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,960
it's gonna be about survival for the next week or so.

1217
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:15,679
Teams playing their third game in three days.

1218
00:59:15,679 --> 00:59:16,119
Speaker 4: It's tough.

1219
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 3: Like you gotta you gotta keep an eye on stuff

1220
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,760
like that over the course of the next week or

1221
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,599
so in my opinion. All Right, anything quick at the

1222
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:27,239
at the horn before we recap this parlay.

1223
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 4: All right, let's do it. Let's recap.

1224
00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:35,039
Speaker 3: We've got Brian Powers going Tennessee State plus thirty two.

1225
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,199
You've got Rob Bino Miami Hurricanes team total over ninety

1226
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:45,119
one and a half, and I went Illinois Chicago plus nine.

1227
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,199
We'll call it, well, we'll call it six to one.

1228
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,960
It looks like, you know, it looks like you can

1229
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,119
get your pretty standard standard minus one tens out there.

1230
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:55,320
I'll I'll tell you what.

1231
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: Garth.

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00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: Garth threw another donation and he wants to get one

1233
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,599
in at the gun here. I'll come on this one

1234
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:04,480
really quickly. I thought the Hawaii movement, I didn't agree

1235
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,920
with it. I didn't understand why Hawaii was suddenly a

1236
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,519
three point favorite against Arizona State. I've got Arizona State

1237
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,199
a slight favorite in that game. That's all I have

1238
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:16,239
to offer there, either of you. Quick for Garth at

1239
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,199
the horn on his question Hawaii Arizona State rob anything

1240
01:00:19,199 --> 01:00:19,840
for the total?

1241
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't handicapped that one yet. Adam, So I

1242
01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:27,280
got nothing at this point. It's I will.

1243
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: I just wanted to get something out there for him.

1244
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,800
I think Hawaii gets a little bit overrated at home,

1245
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,920
especially when they start to play good a little bit.

1246
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:36,320
I will be looking at the Sun Devils to see

1247
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,280
if I can make a case to play back at

1248
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:38,840
that movement.

1249
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,119
Speaker 4: That is what I have for that game.

1250
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,679
Speaker 3: We very much appreciate the interaction, the donation, the comments,

1251
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:48,400
the likes, the subscribes to the YouTube channel. And once again,

1252
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,320
to close it out, Tennessee State plus thirty two, Miami

1253
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,719
team total over ninety one and a half, Illinois Chicago

1254
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,360
plus nine. That's your three team or that's your show.

1255
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We'll be back ten am tomorrow to finish out the week.

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Speaker 4: See you guys there