Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just yeah, all right, welcome in.
Speaker 3: It is Thursday, and it is sort of the unofficial
kickoff to MT sort of tournament season gear because we
got day basketball I think today and then like every
day from now through the rest of the week. So
we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna start with an
MTE and I'll just set this up for you guys,
a little double feature today. We're gonna go to Bahamas
for the Baja. We're gonna go to Baja Mars, specifically
to the MT that's down to the Bahamas. And the
reason I want to bring this up is I feel
these are probably two of the bigger games on the
slate today. I also got the chance to go down
to this tournament a couple of years ago. Shout out
to Josh and his entire team. Uh, they put on
a phenomenal event. I'll tell you what before we get
into breaking this down. As people file in, if you're
ever like on the fence and your team is there
and you're like, should I go one, and yes, you should.
You should go to that tournament. They the fan experience
is phenomenal. You're right next to the court, the access
that you get at that tournament for like the general
fan is just incredible. So highly highly recommend making the
trip to Bahamas if if you ever get the chance
to go to that Bahamar Invitational.
Speaker 4: It is uh plus endorsement from Tree and Drag.
Speaker 2: It's much better than hanging out with your family on Thanksgiving.
So not your family in particular, I'm saying, but families
in general. Right, I mean, who wouldn't want to go
down to the Bahamas for Thanksgiving instead of spending time
with their family.
Speaker 1: I'm mom and dad, how are you?
Speaker 3: But the thing is, Brian, the nice thing is it's
the week before Thanksgiving always, so this one doesn't even fall.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm confused.
Speaker 3: But you get to do both, and it's it's always there.
They're always bringing in big time teams. So it's like
the field when I went had some big teams last year.
You got to see that crazy Baylor Saint John's game
that had like the deep shot to either send it
to overtime or win it in overtime. In this year's
field is stack as well, starting with the Purdue boiler
Makers as a what I thought was a large favorite
and now they're even an even bigger favorite tonight against
the Memphis Tigers. So Brian, I'm gonna come back to
you first, and I'm gonna sort of sit this one out.
I'll just facilitate the discussion. I'm doing this video today
for wager Talk. I'm gonna be doing a full breakdown
of these two games. So rather than you have to
hear me yap on here and then say the same
thing on there, I'll sort of save mine for the video,
and that way we'll get more things in. Like I
know Jay Buff wants to talk about Cornell. We'll get
that stuff in. So over to you, Brian. Kick us
off perdue Memphis. How are you seeing this one?
Speaker 1: We need to make room and time for Jay Buff.
We love you, Boff.
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in, and thanks all of you for
tuning in. Smatch that like button. Please you talk about
the line movement in this game. Here, Trick, let's look
at the odd screen real quick. So I say the
right numbers. Purdue is what we'll call it, minus sixteen,
minus sixteen and a half. At this point, I thought
it actually had gotten a little bit higher a moment ago.
Maybe there's been a little bit of buyback on Memphis
in the last five minutes. But I suspect a little
bit of recency bias is involved with the line movement here.
Memphis is coming off a bad home loss to UNLV
ninety two to seventy eight. Now not necessarily any shame
in losing the UNLV even at home, but again they
lose by double digits. They turned the ball over. Memphis
did eighteen times, did not shoot the ball well forty
two point four percent to be exact overall, and just
twenty three and a half percent for three four of seventeen.
It was, actually, guys, in terms of margin, the worst
loss Memphis has had at home under Penny Hardaway. So
many kind of thinks if this number keeps climbing, it's
by low time on Memphis.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Rob, what do you think with that?
Speaker 2: That's just my natural instinct when I see a team
awful loss like that and the line moving the way
of this.
Speaker 5: Well, let's start with our coaches quote portion of the show, guys,
and this one will come from Penny Hardaway talking about
something we've talked about now for almost three full weeks.
It describes many teams across the country, but it's trying
to put together a roster that's entirely brand new. Here's
what he's got to say about that. Obviously, this is
very tough for me because we haven't been in this
position this early in the season before. It's the byproduct
of having a new team. And I'm trying, along with
his staff to go to war every day and find
five guys, find seven guys, find eight guys that can
just run through a wall and just fight. We're still
trying to figure that out right now. So the evaluation process,
the experimentation process is I like to say, is you
undergoing for Memphis and it's a tough team to go
up against when you don't even know who your top
eight are in the rotation. He's got a pretty good
guest that he wants to start this out with Majuk
and Tedford as his top two and then work from there.
But that loss to UNLV, I thought was pretty bad
because Josh Passner is in the same type of situation
out at UNLV and they walked into Memphis and just
pretty much destroyed that team. Made him play fast, Memphis
likes to play fast, couldn't do what they like to do,
So not a good sign. Purdue won't force a lot
of pressure, not the way UNLV will. So maybe those
turnovers won't be eighteen Ryan, But I have to believe
that between Kaufman, Wren and Oscar Cluff, like I said, yes,
I think I used them as an example for another game,
But the rebounding has to go to Purdue here. The
point guard play, Memphis isn't going to take it away
from Braiden Smith. In in fact, as Braiden Smith, everybody
knows a great point guards. Oh Meir Meyer that's come
on as the backup point guard nineteen and under player
for the Israeli team, used to starting now coming off
the bench, but playing very very good backup point guards.
So Purdue is really set in so many positions here.
I don't know if I want to lay sixteen and
a half, but I may want to look at produced
team total. I don't know that Memphis has much of
a way to stop them from scoring, whether it be
outside inside. Purdue doesn't transition, but they don't have to
really because they're so efficient offensively quick. Look here, if
we can get a firm number on team totals so
I can see where we're at, it looks like eighty
seven and a half for Purdue. The only thing I
would say is, you know, you're in the Bahamas, different setting,
different rims. Maybe maybe not. Maybe Purdue's up by so
much that they don't have to get to eighty eight.
But if I had to play this game, I might
look that direction. Purdue team total over. Just don't know
that Memphis knows exactly what they're doing yet, As the
head coach stated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about efficiency on offense there, Rob, for Purdue, well,
there is a grand total of zero teams more efficient
on the offensive end than Perdue. They are number one
right now in offensive rating over at ken Palm saw
some people talking about analytics sites in the chat. So
there's that Purdue's not going to turn you. I think
you mentioned this, Rob, correct me if I'm wrong. Perdue
not likely to turn Memphis over as much as you
and LV did. That's just not their game on defense.
But you did bring the continuity point, and then I'll
throw this to Trig is like very well taken. Memphis
has no like maybe we shouldn't be surprised by a
slow start because they were tied for dead last in
the country in returning production. While Perdue obviously has a
great deal of returning production. Not to put you on
the tape on the spot trig for a hot take
alert here, But I think of Penny Hardaway as a coach.
Is Penny Hardaway like not a good I feel that
I a lot of times when my handicapped Memphis, I'm
saying things like, well, I give the other team a
coaching edge.
Speaker 5: Yeah he gotten the double hot take.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love, but I love being put on the
hot is.
Speaker 5: The car way with these? Are these are easy? These
are opinion based. It is the coach a good coach?
And is Doug McDaniel really a good point guard? The
kid from Michigan's been not so good to start the season,
and it could be because the surroundings are just, you know,
brand new to him as far as personnel is concerned.
Speaker 3: Doug McDaniel struggling doesn't really surprise me because I feel
like he's had some like hot and cold at times
in his career. But I have a more definitive answer
about Penny Hardaway. Listen, I love the guy as a
as I loved him as a player. I had a
magic starter jacket when I was about ten. I owned
that blue with the Pinstripes Magic Penny Hardaway Jersey. As
a coach, I think he's awful, a terrible coach in game.
Is he an awesome recruiter? Is he great for that program? Yes,
But like when we're in the game, like the forty
minutes or so, where they're on the floor, I typically
would there's almost no person in the country that I
have him as a coaching end. Maybe Mike Bibby. I
probably give him the edge over Mike Bibby right now.
But but like, and that's just been the thing for me.
I think for me it's gotten a little bit better
than it was a year or two ago. But like
to answer your question, BP, I know, I think I
don't think he's the best x's and O guy that
we have in the game.
Speaker 2: Fair to be fair, you can get far at this
job by just solely being a great look at coach
cal I don't think anyone has ever accused coach call
of being the finest x's and o's man in the business, right.
I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying Hardaways even
on the level of coach.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying recruiting is a big part.
Speaker 2: I'm not you know I'm not maybe I don't want
to words in your mom I'm not saying that Penny
Hardaway should be strung up on a pole and run
out of a job. I'm just saying that I agree
with you that it's the x's and o's in game
where he tends to struggle, and if he got the
worst team, maybe it is a long night. Even if
it is kind of a traditional Bilo spot here.
Speaker 3: I would almost argue it matters even less now than
it ever has because when you're when you're at college
basketball at the high level, the coach has so much
other stuff to worry about at this point than just
x's and o's. If you just want to worry about
x'es and o's and be a coach, you got to
go coach in the Patriot League or the IVY or
someplace that doesn't have extreme roster turnover, nil players getting
paid like that's so so really Hardaway is better off
than a lot of other people in his position right now.
It's just you get in between the lines. You might
get out schemed a little bit if you if you're Memphis,
but hey, that's just that's just something you deal with.
I want to just throw this question up real quick
as we transition to the other game, because I will
answer it. And like I said, I'm gonna give my
breakdown on these two games on a separate video, so
I'll sit the sort of handicapping portion of this one out.
But I want to bring this is a general question,
and I have an answer for you, Jacob. So he says,
I try to set my own minds a couple of
days before, and if I'm off by a point and
a half to three points, I see value. Yeah, that's
like pretty much handicapping.
Speaker 5: One oh one.
Speaker 3: I agree with that, He says. I'm off by more
than three points, I consider it a bad read. If
I'm off by less, I see no value. So I
don't think it's like a bad read if you're necessarily
off by more than that. And I'll just give an
example for I'll use the Purdue game and Memphis as
an example. I do this as well. I make my
initial number like a day or two before, and then
I don't look at it, and I don't even look
at it when they open and less unless it's a
spot I have had circled and I know it's something
I'm gonna for sure want to attack. I won't look
at it when they open because I don't want to
be stuck like with like ten plays just based on.
Speaker 4: And where numbers open. Right, So that's why I don't
do that.
Speaker 3: I got I have Purdue minus nineteen and a half here,
so that would have represented a fairly substantial quote unquote
edge based on the opener of thirteen.
Speaker 4: But I didn't play it.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean I still don't like like the produce side.
I do see what you're saying where it's like, man,
like that opened thirteen. I was way over here at
nineteen and a half, Like I'm with you, though, I
don't just auto play it. I have to sit there
and think, like, Okay, why is it so far? Why
am I so far off? Okay, now we're on a
neutral Memphis played really poorly last time out, so so
going back to some of this stuff Rob said, and
it's it's not like a it's a case by case.
Every single game is a case by case base It's
that's why I have no life in college basketball season.
That's why you know, I wonder if if you know,
I wonder if I'll still have a significant other at
the end of March because every game is a case
by case space as it takes forever to break these
games down. But that is a very very good question,
in my opinion, and I think it's if either of
you on a way in on that go ahead.
Speaker 2: So I made the number fifteen for this game, so
I thought it opened there was a little bit of value.
Speaker 1: I wasn't as way off as you are.
Speaker 2: I will be grudgingly give our friend j buff a
good a shout here. I threw this comment on the
check because I really agree with this what he's saying,
especially early in the season, and this is true for
college football as well. There are times where your line
could be way off. Case in point, last night, right
after we went right after we you know, click stop
recording on this show, I asked trigger Raw, I said,
what in the hell is up with this Michigan Middle
Tennessee number? It just keeps going up and up. Yesterday
I was way off. I was several points off from
the opener. It kept going up, and I wound up
making Middle Tennessee a play last night. Now, it was
one of those situations where you know, after after a
good first half, you kind of have to hold on
your butt cheeks there a little bit the second we
covered you know basically.
Speaker 1: But basically because of the line move.
Speaker 2: But still you're you're going there are I will say
to the initial comment there, there's going to be times
these this first. I don't know through December, I would say,
Trigg that where your number could be way off, get
it gets less and less is December as we get
closer to Christmas. I remember sitting with you in the
Encore a couple of years ago in lovely Boston, Massachusetts
and saying, I, I'm like my number on b YU
is off every I'm always like five points higher than
the market as b YU team, and I just kept betting,
and I just kept betting them and kept winning.
Speaker 3: You were right, you were right. Yeah, you're right about
that one for sure. I feel like you cash like
six that's in a row with by the coops. I
am severely unorganized today, as you can tell if we
got no toll over my desk. We have the my
my three hundred dollars a session dog trainer here.
Speaker 2: Uh I write, I write fourteen fifty six on order
eyes on the time stamps.
Speaker 1: Is that what you do?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you have anything out? Did you have anything of
the power ratings discussion.
Speaker 5: Rough, Yeah, real quick. I'll just take the couple of
seconds while Adam get myself in order there as a
power ratings guy myself when it's off, and as you
guys both said, it's not doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong.
But what I'll do a lot of times if I'm unaware,
I'll immediately go check injuries because the way people bet
injuries nowadays is insane. So just make sure there's nothing
injury wise that's causing the difference between your number and
the number that's being offered in the market. That's all
I'll add. Looks like Adam is ready to roll.
Speaker 3: Yeah. All I was doing was trying to make a
seamless transition to the next game, which is the second
game down.
Speaker 4: The second game.
Speaker 1: Down, the game is here. What are we doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I was looking for my number on Texas Tech
and I found it. So game number two, second part
of the Bahamar Championship.
Speaker 4: Tonight, they'll they'll these teams will play again, I think
in two days it is, or tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they're doing this year, but the
second half of this is our other feature game.
Speaker 4: Texas Tech wake Forest.
Speaker 3: I see a couple people in the chat asking for it,
and Rob, I'm gonna throw this to you. But all
I was gonna say was this was one where I
also made my number eleven. It opened eight, it's now
up to eleven. But I don't necessarily feel like I
missed a bet. And that's I guess the point I'm
trying to make. Just because you see a numerical edge
on a play does not mean you have to bet
it like other things need to line up. I do
sort of lean to the Texas Tech side, but it
wasn't something I initially bet.
Speaker 4: How about yourself?
Speaker 5: This game, to me is pretty solid where wake Forest
is concerned being the underdog rad I don't know that
Memphis has the type of personnel to match up with
Purdue in the opener, but I do think that wake
Forest could cause and I'm a Texas Tech guy, so
I'm gonna lean Texas Tech. Just don't know that I
would lay this price for wake Forward. The antithesis of
what Penny Hardaway said when I read the quote is
their backcourt two first year guys, two first year transfers,
one from Washington, one from Washington State, and they need
to be blending together really, really well. The type of
ball Steve Forbes is playing down there, as described by
Grant McCaslin, head coach of Texas Tech, ultra aggressive, attack
the rim, and they've showed it. They played Michigan right
to the wire in Little Caesars, so they've got some
experience on a neutral and that's more than a neutral
right when you're going into Michigan territory and just playing
at an arena where they probably have more people than
you do. But four wake Forest. I think the guard
play is solid, which always counts. I think their early
tendency to speed up tempo Texas Tech has shown they'll
handle because they played Illinois to the nail eighty one
to seventy seven in an up tempo game. Texas Tech,
I'll tell you, guys, I won't say their mirror image,
but I will say they're very, very comparable to Purdue
any efficiency. They don't really want to run. They'll run
more than Purdue will for sure. And I'm gonna you know,
thoughts just run right through my head here, Adam. It's crazy,
But yesterday I said Texas Tech doesn't thrive on threes
the way Alabama does when we were talking about the
Alabama game. Yet, Texas Tech has hit a lot of
threes this year, a pretty good three point shooting team
led by a solid point guard Christian Anderson, of course JT.
Topp and probably again the best player on the floor here,
I think Texas Tech is the winner. But I think
this will be high speed. If I take the Illinois
game as a comp I see eighty one seventy seven eight.
I think wake Forest is a little less defensive minded.
I think wake Forest probably a little and this is
tough to say after watching last night's game, which turned
into an absolute foulfest, but it did involve Alabama. I
think wake Forest has a good tendency to have bowels
in their games because of their style rim attacking. So
right now, at this point, because total has been bet
up for three more points than what was scored in
the Texas Tech Illinois game from month fifty eight, you
want to get to one sixty one to cash here.
I think it's real doable. I think that the wake
Forest defense in Texas Tech, you know, I think they'll
score their share and wake Forest probably gets there in
a fast game. Give me over in that one, guys.
Speaker 2: Trig second straight game here, that I too was a
little bit higher, but not quite as high as you
relative to the opener here, so I understood the line moves.
It's a little high for me now. Rob mentioned wake
Forest performance against Michigan that is still in my mind.
I was they were up by seven in that game
late regulation. That was an unlucky loss for the Demon
Deacons in Detroit. So I mean it was not a
we I guess. I don't know if you want to
call it technically a tree it was. It was a
true road game, basic, Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: Detroit.
Speaker 2: Detroit's a lot closer to ann Arbor than it is
to Winston Salem. We all understand our geography. Rob mentioned
Texas Tech hitting threes a little bit more than we're
accustomed to seeing. I think they have hit. Yes, they
have hit twelve or more in three of their four games.
That's pretty good. And I gotta be honest with you.
If they're hitting their threes here, it could be a
long night for wake Forest because wake Forest is allowing
teams to shoot very well inside the arc as well.
Speaker 1: Rob mentioned the name.
Speaker 2: JT Top and JT Top is not just He's gonna
be the best player on the floor a lot of
nights this season. He looked great in the losing effort
against Illinois. If you're in one of those states that
allows college play. In Ohio, we can't do it anymore.
But if you're in one of those states that I
would look JT top and overs here because I think
he's gonna put up a very very big night in
the box score for the Red Raiders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't disagree with that. I think I've said
it a couple times on this show. I am sort
of all in on Texas Tech. Like from a from
a long term perspective, they are a team. Like if
you were to pin me down right now for a
team that I was like, like, give me one team
that you you will pick to make it to the
Final four. Like if I just if you were like,
you have to pick one obviously, like we know how
hard it is to get to a Final four and
all the stuff that you need to fall into place,
Like the one I would like feel the most comfortable
about picking would be Texas Tech. I just I love McCaslin,
I love the.
Speaker 4: Way they're coached.
Speaker 3: I'm just I think they're really good. Now again, could
waking around here and keep it within ten on a
neutral maybe I would still think Texas Tech is the
right side.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I am very high on the Red Raiders
this year.
Speaker 5: Real quick, guys, Just one thing to add to that.
This is this turny is in the Bahamas where sometimes
kids can get lost in the scenery. And Grant mccaslin's
quote was, we're very, very excited to be here, more
or less a business trip for them, which is good
to know that their focus is not on, you know,
the Bahamas itself and it's on the basketball court.
Speaker 2: Was this not for the tournament trig where h you
you provided inside infall and said, Georgia was at the
tables all night last night.
Speaker 3: You go they were, Yeah, and they were the they
were awesome. First of all, we had a blast that
year with the Georgia guys and they were just hey,
they were just hanging out having a good time. And
that is such a good point. And it's not to
knock like listen, that was Mike White's first year. Early
in the season, Georgia was projected to finish at the
bottom of their league. Sometimes and this is like, this
is like a very very important point that you need
to take into betting these the next week or so.
Sometimes these are team building trips. It's not everyone is
there for business. Sometimes it's like, hey, we know we're
trying to build some camaraderie within the team. It's a
long season. Maybe we're maybe we're we have a new
maybe we have a group of new players, and you know,
so like let's say for a Memphis, maybe Penny goes
into this and says, hey, it's a little bit more
about like you know, like like building a bond with
each other that it is maybe like going to get
a result because it's November, we have a whole season, like, yeah,
we're gonna play some basketball.
Speaker 4: But I think that was George's m Now did they go?
Speaker 3: They went zero and two and didn't cover an even
either game, But like look at Georgia now right, like
Mike White was playing the long game there, and look
at how good they were last year to the year before.
So that is something that you need to think when
you're going to handicap a game and there's teams in
a tropical destination, it's gotta be on your mind. And
I think it makes that quote that that Rob dug
up right there?
Speaker 4: That much more relevant.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Brian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two things.
Speaker 2: Number one, nothing wrong with having a good time Rob
seeing me at the roulette table before.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: And then number two, that's gonna hit black eventually, Rob,
it's gonna hut.
Speaker 5: He wasn't real sound, but no, it was as well.
Speaker 2: It was also very late and it was the shank
of the evening. Number two Texas Tech continues to take
money here. This is actually just hit eleven at CIRCA.
So in a more serious note, all.
Speaker 4: Right, let's uh, let's move it along.
Speaker 3: Garth again the daily donation, We very very much appreciate it,
and Arth make sure that you leave with some insight
and get your info here. So he says, thoughts on
Miszoo South Dakota, He's leaning South Dakota team total under Uh,
I'm gonna go to Rob in a second, because I
know he knows Missouri. I'm gonna give some South Dakota
perspective first. So for me, South Dakota is a team
that I think I had going into the year. I
felt like they might be better than where the market
had them, and then I sort of backed off of that.
A little bit because I knew a couple of guys
weren't gonna play right away. Now, one of those guys
that didn't play in the opener still hasn't played. That's
Josiah Doetzler. I hope I'm saying that correct. I butchered
on this show regularly. But yeah, Josiah Goeltzler. I had
as who would be like the best player on this team.
When I look at player ratings, I look at the rosters,
I said, Okay, he's probably their highest rated player this year.
So part of the reason I sort of pumped the
brakes on South Dakota earlier in the season is because
he was out and there was another guy out who
I think has returned. To this point, I don't know
what his status is because it is it is difficult
to get injury info on some of these schools. All
I know is he has yet to play this year. Now,
with that being said, we are now five games into
the season, and so sometimes that starts to and this
is where I'll and I'll go to Rob to talk Missouri.
Speaker 4: But maybe he can touch in on this as well.
Speaker 3: At some point the guy missing becomes less relevant, right
like the further you go down the road, the fact
that a team's missing their best player becomes less of
a talking point, right because now he hasn't even stepped
on the floor the year. We're three weeks into the season.
Like what South Dakota is right now is what they are.
Like him being hurt doesn't matter anymore now. If they
get him back at some point, that would represent a
nice boost to them. But I just don't think him
being out is a huge deal and that actually, like
I'm still so that makes me a little bit higher
than market on South Dakota still because recently fifteen point
win over Southern Indiana in a game that you know
they covered.
Speaker 4: I think they were a seven and a half point favorite.
Speaker 3: And then last time out they knocked off Western Michigan,
who's a team from the MAC of what would be
considered a bigger conference than their conference. So I like
what I've seen about them. But I feel like I've
been a little bit wrong on Missouri this year, and
Missouri might be better than I thought. So I'll kick
it to Rob for the Missouri perspective and also the
totals perspective for Garth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, first off, where Garth is concerned. I wouldn't disagree
here because this game is live to take on track
meet status where Missouri is a twenty eight and a
half point favorite. It really doesn't matter if they allow
seventy three points to South Dakota. It really doesn't. They
probably push one hundred here. I'm just going to go
back at him because we did talk about it a
couple of I don't know, it's probably more than a
couple of days ago now, but remember Nico Medbed brought
his Minnesota team in here, and that game was close
for about I don't know, eighteen minutes in the first half,
maybe even at halftime it was still but it Missouri
busted that thing open, and I mean the floodgates kept
coming eighty three to sixty final. Miszoo has been fantastic
shooting the basketball so far this season. Again, you know
we did this show that day. This reminds me and
I'm sitting here, best player on Missouri for a couple
of years now, and I'm pretty sure if I go
back to tape, I kept saying, Mike Mitchell, who used
to be a basketball player, It's Mark Mitchell for Miszoo.
For those who wanted to correct me on that. Mark
Mitchell obviously, like we said about top and Mitchell probably
the best player on the floor here. But the guards
are shooting. Dennis Gates, Brian, You'll remember back at Cleveland State,
Dennis Gates had some pretty good teams and when he
can get them to play his style, which I think
this is, and last year's team of the year before
we're pretty good too. But I think this is the
closest to what he wants out of a basketball team
this year. They're running their shooting threes, they get to
the rim. Defense I think still has to be answered.
I don't think that question has been answered because I
have to tell you guys, I don't think Minnesota posed
a real threat as of yet. Offensively. I watched that
game in Minnesota just didn't look like they had much
to offer on the offense evevent So again, to Guard's point,
I think seventy three is very doable by South Dakota.
They're gonna run, They're gonna score. Missouri's gonna score theirs too.
The question for me becomes, do I think it's gonna
get over one seventy three? Do I think we wind
up in a ninety nine to seventy six territories something
like that to get yourself over. I'm not really positive
on that yet. Don't want to lay twenty eight and
a half. I think maybe Garth is on the best
angle of this game. Just take the dog that can run,
that can score a little bit, and Adam, I want
to just go back to your point real quick here.
The further away you get from having a star player,
the less it matters. And then I think if it
really gets far away and then he returns, it matters.
But maybe not from a positive perspective, because to get
fit in and become cohesive right away just jumping back
into the lineup sometimes it doesn't work right away. It
takes two or three games. So we'll see how South
Dakota's roster goes forward. But I would say Garth, I'd
be on your side South Dakota over seventy two and
a half.
Speaker 2: You talk about Dennis Gates in his final days with
Cleveland State. Rob I was actually at Dennis Gates's final
home game for Cleveland State, and Dread will get a
laugh out of this because there was in a lot.
There was a scoreboard malfunction at the Wolves Center. The
Lovely Burt and iris Wolfstein Center and me and my body.
We were looking at Dennis Gates as this scoreboard failure
was really embarrassing. They had the PA guy calling the
score out for the last ten minutes of the game.
It was like a middle school game. And you could
just look into at Dennis Gates's face and he was
looking up at the ceiling and he was like, I
am leaving this program as soon as soon as someone
will offer me a lot of money to go elsewhere.
And that was Missouri that picked up. I think Dennis
State Gates is a great coach. Cleveland State was lucky
to have him. But yeah, I thought it was kind
of a funny anecdote to Gates's final home game at
Cleveland State, He's like, I gotta get out of here, man.
We can't even get a real scoreboard at this place.
The scoreboard's bad. Anyone who's been to the Wolstein Center
in Cleveland knows it's a high school scoreboard anyway, and
the fact that it malfunctioned.
Speaker 1: Was kind of embarrassing, really quite frankly for the program.
Speaker 5: So he left.
Speaker 2: My thought on this game here Gates, his current team, Missouri,
taken on some I thought the number was too high
when I looked at it. I think this number is
too high. South Dakota can score. Rob kind of alluded
to that they are a team now, they're kind of
a middle of the road Summit League team. Trigg correct
me if I'm wrong. They're on the preseason projections, but
we know they can score. So far, they're averaging eighty
nine points per game. They've got eight guys averaging at
least or close to seven per game. So you talk
about maybe some guys being out, well, they've got a
lot of guys contributing here do the Coyotes. And I
just think this number seems a little high. To total
is an interesting handicap just because you've got two teams
that obviously can you put it in the basket. But
South Dakota's actually four and out of the under this
year in their line games. But which speaks to how
high these totals have been. This is obviously a very
high total as well. So I really got nothing as
far as the total is concerned. But I did think
this spread was a touch high for Maszoo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very slight numerical edge for me to South Dakota
State and in the context of the Summit League, I
do think they.
Speaker 4: Are are undervalued. So do with that what you will.
Speaker 3: Jay buff coming through don't gifted ten Wager Talk memberships.
Speaker 4: Thank you for that.
Speaker 3: That is incredible And we're gonna get I know he's headed.
Speaker 4: To Ithaca tonight. Hopefully you get there early.
Speaker 3: Go down to the commons at the Alehouse.
Speaker 4: It's a great spot down in the Commons there.
Speaker 3: But what he's gonna be in town for is Colgate Cornell,
and uh, we got to help him find a winner
here on this one, I wish. So I'll set this
up for you guys, because I have some intel here.
It's not it's not really leading me toward a pick,
but maybe maybe it'll help lead. Maybe it puts Rob
on a totals angle here because so I know Rob
that you like to you like to look at coaches
that like there's a different coach in you know, in
a and now it's like maybe a different scheme from
the prior year. Well, sometimes there is a player that
totally change is the way a team likes to play,
and that's what Colgate has had the last couple of years.
So Colgate had a center by the name of Jeff
Woodward the past couple of years, who is a six
to eleven, like plotting big, really really slowed things down.
There was just no like, there was no way around it.
Like if he was on the floor, Colgate had to
accommodate him.
Speaker 4: They had to slow the game down.
Speaker 3: But when you're in the Patriot League, if a six
to eleven guy wants to play on your team, like,
you're gonna make sure that that word like, you're just
gonna have to work that in because it's not every
day that a team like Colgate gets a six to
eleventh center that has a little touch around the rim
and can score points. So the reason I bring that up,
and the reason I'll sort of kick it to Rob
here to give us a totals perspective, he's not on
the team anymore. And what I saw on Monday night
against Siena was a Colgate defense that was flying around
the floor, so much more athletic than they were in
the last couple of years, because the year before it
was Keegan Record and they were they were big. Now
Colgate's a little bit smaller, They're much more athletic. The
one three one zone that Matt Lango likes to play
is much more effective. They they're athletes, they can guard.
The reason that matters here is you have Cornell is
just gonna run up and down the floor. You have
to be athletic to be able to guard that team.
And so Lango will extend that one three one zone
a little bit. It's crazy to say it, but like
this may be too many points for an over Like
this game might go under just based on the fact
that Colgate might be equipped to handle Cornell's pace. And
I'll tell you this about Cornell because I caught that
Army game yesterday. This is a sloppy verse. This is
like TMU Cornell a little bit. Like it's like the
tm MoU version of the Brian Earl Coronells teams, where
it's just they're just not as good. They're not as crisp,
they don't finish as well, they're not as good as scorers.
I don't know, Rob, what do you think is it's
not probably not what jaybel buff want wants to hear
being in attendance Brian. If Brian Power were going to
this game, he'd be all over it. I kind of
think this one goes under it's a huge number.
Speaker 5: It's the way the market sees it. Early on Adam,
we see about a three point move downward here, sixty
five down to one sixty two. Cornell, obviously pace is
a big thing at ninth in the country in seconds
per possession, and certainly shooting the ball real well. But
the defensive aspects for Colgate well taken. If you're forcing
people to shoot tougher shots and they're accustomed to and
it's not Again, I've used this term a lot, but
in fast paced games, broken floor, open floor usually leads
to open threes. We saw it a lot last night
in the Alabama game. Guys got the ball, they run
to the ball defensively, one quick pass on the break,
and that guy's standing wide open for three. It happens
a lot. But if Coldgate's capable of getting back and
defending and slowing that stuff down, then maybe they stop
Cornell from scoring. The thing is Cornell's relentless, they won't
stop running at you. And the other side of the
coin is guys Coldgate could be a play here because
Cornell just refuses to play defense. So you've got the
antithesis on the other side. Colgate possibly enough scoring here
in this game to get under the number of four
and a half, four or five. It's funny that I
would look at this more from a side perspective than
a total. But I do think, just hearing your descriptive
of Colgate defensively Adam Matt Lanngel, and he is a
really good coach, it's really possible here that Colgate gets
the job done. They have to make more shots than
they've been making, and they would have to stop Cornell
because if you just look at analytics statistics, you're going
to lean toward the Cornell's side. We'll see how it
matches up. But I couldn't disagree with the line move
here total or excuse me, the total move here coming
down after all Cornell against Army one fifty nine. I
will say this one last thing. Coldgate pulled Drexel into
a ninety to eighty three game, and Drexel has not
wanted to run for years. That's one of the slowest
teams perennially in college basketball. So that game went ninety
to eighty three. Colgate got to ninety in that one
on That's an interesting handicap here, but perhaps Coldgate plus points.
Speaker 3: Is a good look, I'm with you, Rob, That's how
I look at it. My number came out, I think
I was like at four and a half or something,
so I didn't show like like a huge edge off
the opener of four.
Speaker 4: But I'll point this out.
Speaker 3: Cornell basically like every game the last few games has
taken money. At some point throughout the day, they the
move on. The Cornell number against Army was like five
points and they didn't cover it. And oftentimes these groups
that will move lines will come back to that team
the next time around. So like, let's say Cornell gets
popped at some point and suddenly that's up to six
and a half or set, then I would one thousand
percent punch back with Colgate if I was getting like
a drastically better number. Seth says he likes the under listen, Like,
I want to point out that, like the total in
this game being one sixty two down from one sixty five,
Like even if you get the pace, like, you still
have to be pretty efficient offensively to get one sixty two,
even in a fast paced game. And that's why I
question either team being good enough offensively to be efficient
enough to get to one sixty two. That's why I
lean a little bit toward uh toward the under right there.
Speaker 4: Huh Okay, we.
Speaker 3: Are, we are rolling along, but we have not touched
on a parlay leg yet. Uh it's that we were
still doing it. We know, we we've been on a
little bit of a cold run with the parlay, but
still up I think eight point two to two units
on the year. So uh, you know, we we've we
built ourselves a nice little cushion, as I said, And
I'm gonna go to Brian Power to see if he
is ready to kick off Thursday's parlay.
Speaker 4: Uh choice to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe they call that playing with house money.
We built up a nice reservoir here that first week.
This is going to be horrible. No one's gonna like
this play at all. I'm just gonna warn you right now.
We're gonna go with Tennessee State getting an absolutely massive
number at Tennessee.
Speaker 1: This is just a straight numbers play, Drake.
Speaker 2: Look, can I promise you that this will not be
a sweat, hold your butt cheeks kind of game at
the end like last night well was for me with
Middle Tennessee against Michigan. No, I can't promise you that guys,
I just made this number significantly lower. And if you
want to kind of put something behind this, play here
taken the big number. We'll check this out. Tennessee, they've
started the year four and ZHO four double digit wins. Well,
what do they have upcoming?
Speaker 1: Guys? They've got a trip to Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: Now we understand the price gougeon that's going on in
that city right now, we've all heard about it on
social media, rent about it. But these Tennessee players, I
think are going to be looking forward to that trip.
And look at some of these games that Tennessee has
on tap gag they'll be playing over the next two
we'll call it three weeks. They're gonna they've got three
top ten opponents on the doc Houston, that game will
be in Vegas, and then they've got Illinois. They're gonna
be playing Louisville. They're traveling up to your neck of
the woods, trig the carrier Dome. I just think they
kind of phone this one in. This is a huge,
huge number to be like, there has to be everything
has to go right to cover a number of thirty
two and a half. So Tennessee State, let's just hold
the nose and take the points. We'll check the score
at nine pm Eastern. Hopefully they stayed within thirty.
Speaker 4: I'll put something else behind this for you, Brian.
Speaker 3: This was the same exact spot that Syracuse was in
the other night when we took Mondmuth plus twenty two.
Syracuse is headed out to Vegas as well to play
in this. Like I think it's like the players something.
There's a whole bunch of teams heading out there to
play multiple games in multiple days. It's almost like it's
almost like uprooting the Maui Invitational as like the premiere
sort of MTE that all of these teams.
Speaker 4: Are going to.
Speaker 3: So that was part of my part of my argument
two nights ago when I use Mommouth in the parlay
and as a client play plus twenty two, and that
game was like a two point game.
Speaker 4: That was that game right down.
Speaker 3: To the wire. I'm not saying Tennessee State is taking
Tennessee down to the wire, but certainly they can stay
within what is it, thirty two thirty two and a half?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's some thirty two and a half's out there.
But let's let's make let's let's let's call it thirty
two for the show. I grab it. I disagree with you, Okay,
I like it.
Speaker 4: Let's uh, let's bring Robin.
Speaker 3: If you want to comment on that, you can, But
if you don't, we can go to your parlay leg
if you'd like to. If you'd like to throw them
out there for us.
Speaker 5: Let's do that, guys, because I have something here that
I like quite a bit ahead my eye on it
since their last game, and I it's a bounce back
team total. I love these team totals, and I love
teams that can score, obviously because I want to play over.
But I'm gonna go to the Elon Miami of Florida game.
You know, Miami of Florida played Florida last doubting lose
eighty two to sixty eight to Battle of I guess
you would say for Miami under Jay Lucas, they were
testing themselves where do we sit in the grand scheme
of things? And they found out eighty two to sixty
eight their fast paced style, they're hot shooting, got cooled
off by the Florida defense and the Florida front line
in that game was really dominant. But they're gonna play
Elon here, who doesn't play a heck of a lot
of defense, the team that Miami can force tempo with,
the team that Miami can dictate how things are playing,
the team that Miami can score against. The number here
didn't seem overwhelming to me. I'll get the current I'm
showing ninety one and a half. I think I was.
In fact, it's been bet up now. Guys. It was
ninety and a half. Now it's ninety one and a
half and maybe on the rise a little bit. So
I would say, if you're following our lead here on
these games, probably want to get Miami's team total now.
But ninety one and a half I was looking more
like in the ninety four range. Didn't get there. They
may get one hundred tonight because of what happened. A
it's a step down the defensive class. What you saw
against Florida and especially against penetrating that frontline, you're not
gonna see here against Elon. And secondly, Florida can do
what Miami does best as far as tempo is concerned,
and do it better and they showed it. So for me,
I think in a bounce back game and a step
down in class, the team that wants to play a
lot of offense a team that's on their home floor. Here,
I'm gonna take Miami team total up and over ninety
one and a half.
Speaker 3: I'll let Brian chime in the second. But I rarely
love a team total like because I don't really handicap them. Rob.
Speaker 4: I love this call by you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give my opinion, and I'm gonna let r
because my opinion also includes a Brian power story, so
I'll let him follow it up.
Speaker 4: So he has no idea what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: But adults and I'm very nervous those there's a lot
of funny Brian power stories out there.
Speaker 3: So Brian and I had court access and everything when
we were at Toledo, so we were in there early.
We were standing on and near the court, and there
was one point where Brian got caught off guard because
he like looked to his right and Matthew Van Coleman
was standing right there. He's seven foot four, and I
he kind of like it was it was. It was
similar to like when Prez saw Tokyo Brandon's new look
for the first time when he debuted it on Wager
Talk Today, and his jaw just hit the floor like
that's like, remember we were standing.
Speaker 2: Right there archives yes, yes, we're star by the corner.
Speaker 3: And you kind of looked and you were like, oh
my god, Like he is that is a big dude.
And the reason that that applies here is Matthew Van
Coleman came from Elon, Okay, and last year this was
a he He got to a bad Elon team and
what they were able to do last year was put
him under the hoop and extend their zone out past
the three point line. And I know this because I
was down at Elon last year and one of their
coaches kind of explained how excited they were about having
the seven foot four just monster that could clean the glass,
protect the glass, or protect the rim, and they were
able to get these guards out and play this very
very like high pressure type zone, similar to the zone
you're seeing Marshall play. Now that they have Matthew Van Coleman,
why is that relevant here? Because Elon doesn't have any
of those guys anymore now, and they just they're just
not nearly as competent defensively, but a lot of their
numbers are still based on last year's results. So Elon's
a far worst defensive team this year. And that's why
I think Rob's team total over here with Miami makes
all the sense in the world, because this is just
not the Matthew Van Comen, Simpkins brothers, like Nick Dorn
type pressure defense and said Elon had last year. None
of those guys are still there. So I think Rob
found a good one here with Miami.
Speaker 2: You just real quick, I'm just put some numbers, some
Ken Pop numbers to what we're saying here, these stories,
these anecdotes, if you will. Miami's top eighty in the
country both in adjusted temple and offensive rating, Elon three
one hundred and forty third in defensive rating. That is
not a recipe for a nice night at the defensive.
Speaker 1: End for Elon.
Speaker 3: All right, let's move it along. We got thirteen minutes left,
and I kind of have an idea of what I'm
gonna go within the parlay, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
hold it for a minute. We'll see, let's see if
we can get let's see if we can get another
game in here. Actually, yeah, you know, I'm I'm gonna
do it. Like, here's the deal. If you're getting in late,
if You're a game. I'm actually shocked that no one
asked about the day games. I thought for sure, yeah
someone would. Maybe they don't know about it, but we
do have daytime basketball today, and I'm going to use
one of these games in the parlay. So listen if
you if you get in late, like after I think
three o'clock Eastern, just just play a two teamer with
with Brian and Rob's plays, and I like their play
so much.
Speaker 4: You can you can play play.
Speaker 3: It even bigger if you want to to offset, you know,
you just just just just do that because I'm going
to use one of my client plays here and I'll
close out the parlay with Illinois Chicago who they are
playing High Point, and this game is part of an MTE.
My head, my brain is scrambled with where some of
the these games are right now, because I've been like
looking at all the different ones. I believe these guys
are in dat.
Speaker 4: Yes, very yes.
Speaker 1: This is a spring break destination in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is this is one of the MPT.
This is during the day today, so they'll be the
This will be the second game probably goes off, I
don't know, probably about three o'clock Eastern, and I am
I played Illinois Chicago here. I believe I took nine.
I'll have to double check that it's either nine or
nine and a half, but we'll call it nine for
the show because I think you could you could probably
find I think it's eight and a half some places.
I'm pretty sure for clients, I took nine h three
percent played for me, it's gonna close.
Speaker 4: Out my my leg of the parlay.
Speaker 3: I assume you guys want some daytime action, so I
decided to give this one out. And what I want
to talk about with Illinois, well really with with with
high Point is high Points becoming a team I'm willing
to fade when they aren't playing like the bottom feeders.
And we actually talked about this high Point team very
briefly on Monday. I said, before that game, I was like,
this is the type of game that High Point just
slaughter someone. And they came out and won that game
by forty three points against Canisius.
Speaker 4: The last few years high Point.
Speaker 3: Now high Point has money, Okay, they have a lot
of resources and money, so they don't need to go
play the by games like a lot of other teams
in there.
Speaker 4: In the Big South.
Speaker 3: Do High Point puts together a schedule where it's a
lot of teams that are that are in there sort
of like a lot of mid majors, a lot of
teams that are in their sort of you know, weight class,
if you will, teams that will actually come and play
them at home because they get a great turnout at home.
And what that means is they don't they really play
a lot of like Q three, Q four type opponents.
And so I think that and the fact that High
Point went to the NCAA Tournament last year twenty nine
and six, best season, one of the best seasons in
the history of the school. Believe it was their first
NCAA Tournament appearance. That and the fact that they smash
some of these lesser teams I think has inflated them
sort of significantly. Here at this point, their head coach
is now at Creighton waiting to be the next head
coach when when McDermott retires. So it's a first year
coach in Flynn Clayman, who, you know, maybe he'll be
a great coach, but it's still his first year. The
roster on paper looks really good, but they also got
throttled by UAB. I don't mind that UAB team. Other
people say UAB aren't very good. They lost to Alabama State,
so that's a you know, it's a little concerning that
high Point was not really in that game, lost by
like sixteen. For me, here you're playing a team from
the Missouri Valley. You're catching nine points. Illinois. Chicago's got
like three or four freshmen that have looked awesome so far.
I guarantee that wasn't baked in to their number coming
into the season neutral floor down in Daytona. I'm sure
high Point will have more fans in Chicago. They'll travel,
but how much does that really matter? I took the
nine points three percent play little daytime basketball for you
guys with the flames the you I see.
Speaker 2: The thousand dollars tuition per year at high Point. I
just looked it up while you were talking.
Speaker 3: About Yeah, excuse me, that's yeah, that's wow, fifty thousand
dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Rob.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking I'm not looking for I'm not saying
my daughter's going to high Point.
Speaker 1: But Matt, I'll tell you what that cost to college.
I'm not looking forward to that.
Speaker 4: It's ten years.
Speaker 3: Ak's wife went there like two and he goes down
to games every once in a while. Him and I
went to a game last year. What a campus, one
of the nicest. I think it's probably the nicest campus
I've seen to this point. So, uh yeah, that'll that'll
be my parlay leg and we still have Well, first
of all, do you do either of you want to
I know Rob's a Missouri Valley guy. See if he
wants to weigh in and all. If not, we'll move on.
I think you're mute to Rob.
Speaker 5: Sorry my bad. I was just going to weigh in
on Brian's woes about future college tuition. When my second
son went to Missoo. He went there for the journalism
school and actually took a summer job with the radio station,
which cut that tuition to in state, which at the
time Brian knocked it from forty two k. I think
Miszoo was that year down to eleven because he was
in state. So make sure you have your children get
jobs wherever they want to go is going to stay
there for the summer. And we know credit cards, there's
credit debit card schemes you can use in case you
want to sneak out of the state, so you can
you can get it done.
Speaker 1: Well, I know what I'll be talking about after the show.
Speaker 3: I got one way. I see my buddy Keith, buy
you bets Landry and the chat.
Speaker 4: What's up Keith?
Speaker 3: He pointed out that, you know, high Point on a
neutral not as powerful. He also pointed out that we
we sort of leaned ua B and I think he
was on UAB in the game that they crushed high Point.
But he also would like Rob Venos gain total of
the day by requests. So I'm gonna go to Rob, Rob,
do you have a full game total that you have
a strong enough opinion on that you would like to
to sort of throw that game out there on the show?
Speaker 1: You I like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all right though, because I can come up
with that. You know, I'm gonna say this, guys, we
talked about it earlier. I'm torn between a couple because
I know Keith is leaning on me here. I'm gonna
you know what I'm gonna say, The Texas Tech Week
Forest game that we talked about earlier gets over that
number of one sixty and a half and it's been
bet hard already. So as we like to say on
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want to take the ass end of the line, but
here I think the ass end of the line still
has wiggle room. So I'll leave you with that. I'll
tell you what else I was considering was K State
in Mississippi State over Kansas State. Just they're a one
way ticket this year, all offense, nothing more than that.
So take your choice, Keith. But I think both of
those semi high profile games are pretty high profile games
probably get their way over the total.
Speaker 3: Brian, Let's let's go to that game K State Mississippi State.
Speaker 4: Do you have an opinion there?
Speaker 2: There was a total I wanted to throw that I
was looking at as well. Again, you know we talk
about not want to not want to take the ass
end of a line movement. In Robsword, they're Long Island
and Fordham. People are betting the under like they know
the score the final of that game, and that was
cut sight and I just bring it up because my
initial read was to the under in that matchup, So
I just kind of wanted to bring that to people's attention.
Speaker 1: I just want to.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously our goal here is just to highlight
spots that people could check out for themselves. So that's
one I think people should look at an under there
in Long Island Fordham. No, I will not be in
the building, but I did own an fu half to
nineteen ninety eight rounds, which is air.
Speaker 3: I'll stay on that game. Second, I actually was just
throwing I really don't have a even though I have
a k State hoodie on right now, I don't have
a huge opinion on that game. So I'd actually rather
kind of throw my opinion out on Long Island and
Fordham because I guess if you tune into this show
late and you miss my client play on Illinois Chicago
and you're looking for a leg of the parlay like
the one I was actually probably gonna use in place
of that would have been Fordam on the money line,
and so like again I haven't played this yet. I
feel like I missed the number a little bit here.
I think it was minus Fordam open like minus one
got up to like three. I think now it's back
to two and a half. But it's something I'm sort
of thinking about today, and the reason I'm thinking about
fordam as a play not only today, but someone I
want to play on in.
Speaker 4: The very near future.
Speaker 3: Is I think they're a lot better than what they
showed to start the season that lost to New Jersey
Institute of Technology. They had another bet result, but they
played Iona as good as anyone has played Iona yet
and that was a very, very competitive game. They ended
up covering the number. I believe Iona kind of came
back in that game and won by five. And Fordham
has a guy that I'm sure Robal will weigh in
on because he's he comes from the West Coast, Mike Magpio.
He was always such a good had such good U
see riverside teams. He's someone that I expect to like
come to Fordham and like just do big things. So
the fact that he got off to a slow start
in his first couple of games, like listen, he came
across the country, he's trying to rebuild a program.
Speaker 4: I'm almost gonna give him a pass there.
Speaker 3: For me, the effort from Fordham in that Iona game
is enough to say like this team has some like
betting upside. I think they win this game. I'm just
a little annoyed at myself for missing the number here.
It's the only reason I haven't played it yet. LU
comes off like a huge win. I think they just
sort of ran James Madison out of their little building.
Now they have to go to Roe's thrill, I believe
is where this game is over in the Bronx. I
use a good spot before him, and I think they're
under value.
Speaker 5: I laugh here while you're talking at him, because I'm
checking the odds board and we just had Keith Landry
ask for a couple of totals and the Kansas State
Mississippi State total just went over by a full point.
You got pushed up by a full point. So I'm
just wondering if Keith unloaded his pockets on the Kansas
State Mississippi State game enough to push that total up in.
Speaker 1: Mississippi State too.
Speaker 2: As far as side, there's a lot, there's a lot
of movement there. That game is being played in Kansas City.
For those keeping score at home.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a really strong read.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get on here, I guess, you know,
just because people did ask the question.
Speaker 1: I just don't have a very strong take on that game.
Speaker 2: Like I would feel a little guilty looking into this
camera here and telling our fine viewers bet the game
this way, because I'm not betting that game, I'll be
honest with you, And I don't even really have a
very strong lean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough one.
Speaker 3: I think it's especially at the current number. My lean
would have been Mississippi State because I'm just not at
all high on this Kansas State team. But the way
Kansas State plays, they're like they're gonna eviscerate some some
teams from three just because like that, Like they are
just bombing threes at this point, and so they just
struggled with Tulsa. They just let cal come back. Like
at some point, you know they're gonna come out and
just put put it on someone and then you're gonna
want to bet against them in the next game, because
I just don't think they can consistently do that. But
they have it in them Abbey bash here or something.
I mean, they are chucking threes right now.
Speaker 2: If a wrong team shot horribly from three against Mississippi
State last year, I think they had one of the
better three point defenses in the country, if memory serves
me correct. That kept them in a lot of games.
So I don't know if this is the game where
Kansas State may go crazy from three.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's really and again this is gonna be
the case with a lot of these like neutral or
I know it's in Kansas City, it's still a neutral
like yeah, the fans there, it's still neutral, not their gym. Yeah,
these these games can be tough, man, the mtes. It's
it's gonna be about survival for the next week or so.
Teams playing their third game in three days.
Speaker 4: It's tough.
Speaker 3: Like you gotta you gotta keep an eye on stuff
like that over the course of the next week or
so in my opinion. All Right, anything quick at the
at the horn before we recap this parlay.
Speaker 4: All right, let's do it. Let's recap.
Speaker 3: We've got Brian Powers going Tennessee State plus thirty two.
You've got Rob Bino Miami Hurricanes team total over ninety
one and a half, and I went Illinois Chicago plus nine.
We'll call it, well, we'll call it six to one.
It looks like, you know, it looks like you can
get your pretty standard standard minus one tens out there.
I'll I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: Garth.
Speaker 3: Garth threw another donation and he wants to get one
in at the gun here. I'll come on this one
really quickly. I thought the Hawaii movement, I didn't agree
with it. I didn't understand why Hawaii was suddenly a
three point favorite against Arizona State. I've got Arizona State
a slight favorite in that game. That's all I have
to offer there, either of you. Quick for Garth at
the horn on his question Hawaii Arizona State rob anything
for the total?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't handicapped that one yet. Adam, So I
got nothing at this point. It's I will.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to get something out there for him.
I think Hawaii gets a little bit overrated at home,
especially when they start to play good a little bit.
I will be looking at the Sun Devils to see
if I can make a case to play back at
that movement.
Speaker 4: That is what I have for that game.
Speaker 3: We very much appreciate the interaction, the donation, the comments,
the likes, the subscribes to the YouTube channel. And once again,
to close it out, Tennessee State plus thirty two, Miami
team total over ninety one and a half, Illinois Chicago
plus nine. That's your three team or that's your show.
We'll be back ten am tomorrow to finish out the week.
Speaker 4: See you guys there