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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. We are here for part two of

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our comparison between Highlander and Flash Gordon. I am in

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sword and Jason is in his skin tight T shirt

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with his own name across the front of it.

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an executive producer for us. Okay, let us jump into

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production for these two movies. Great, okay. So to start

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off with Flash, Gordon, you have Clytis and Ming talking

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to each other. I just signed bold about this planet called.

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Speaker 2: An obscure body in the s Case system, your majesty.

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The inhabitants refer to it as the planet.

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Speaker 1: Earth, Earth, and they say Earth like they've never heard

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Like it's like to state like, I've never heard of this,

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And then three seconds later he's pressing a button that

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literally says earthquake? What what?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: How did you never hear of this? And you've got

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a button that has it right there.

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Speaker 2: It's the same reason they speak English in another universe,

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and just that is the way it works.

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Speaker 1: And he has a button this is typhoon, and a

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button that says hurricane. That's one button, Hey, that is one,

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Speaker 2: You haven't even talked about.

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Speaker 3: The button that says hot hail.

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Speaker 1: Hot hale. You know hale, that's hot.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's because it's a lot scarier than cold hal,

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Cale, I watched this with Caleb, Like I said,

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he was just like, what is hot hal?

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Speaker 1: I don't know? Son fire and broomstone, I guess.

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal. Hot hal is debris from the moon

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that's off by twelve degrees. All right, so the beginning, Yes,

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you have the clitus on board. What plaything do you

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have to offer me today? And then you have that

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pump and Queen and when it pounds in the flash,

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I'm like, let's freaking go, because Queen can make some

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freaking great intro songs. But here's one of the things

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that bothers me. Okay about the intro to Flash. We're

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talking about Flash.

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Speaker 1: Of the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this is a small thing, and I know

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this is weird. Probably nobody else thinks about this flash.

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Gordon's on vacation. He's also listening to football games. Okay,

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what professional quarterback goes on vacation during football season?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's here's the weird thing for me. Yeah,

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and this is further on in the movie, of course,

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when Ming ultimately gets impaled with the ship.

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Speaker 2: We're moving there already.

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Speaker 1: Slides off and what color is his blood blue? And

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earlier in the movie, his daughter is being whipped. What

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color is her blood red? Why is the daughter bleed

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red and the dad lead green or blue or whatever

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it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that question.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So anyway, so part of the craziness

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that occurred during production we mentioned before was the Dananello

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Dennardi who had all these weird things that he wanted

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to do. Included the mask that wouldn't move move for Cleitis.

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and the wings for the Hawkmen. They didn't move like,

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they were rigid, like. They couldn't sit down because the

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wings would smash against the flor so they had to

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lie on their stomachs. This is nineteen eighty, right, nineteen

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eighty and so they've got these Hawkmen that they've got

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to do this flying scenes for. So what they do

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and him flying so that they get could they could

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flying Monkeys and the Wizard of Oz like fifty years

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did you go to that guy?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 1: Why would you go to the guy who made the

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movie before? Like color movies existed, instead of going to

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the guys that just made the movie that made you

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to believe a man could fly.

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Speaker 2: Now that you say that they did look like flying monkeys, Well,

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here's one thing that they got right though. Okay, let's

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give it up special effects. Wise, everything else, including Star Wars,

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space is black with white stars. They made these unbelievably cool, colorful,

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rich background skies. What they made by dumping color dye

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and water and watching it swirl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the way they did it, like you said, they

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had different weights and colors for these inks, and they

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would shoot them at like really high speed, like a

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lot of frames per second, so that they could slow

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down the blending of the colors. And it looks like

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these rainbow colored clouds slowly moving.

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Speaker 2: Across it, and they look amazing. Can we just pause

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and put the flag at half mast? Put your hand

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over your heart for our buddy. Munson too played Porkins

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and Star Wars and Death the Top Men, guy in

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Raiders at the Last Time, Dye in that one, and

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Eckhart detective in eighty nine Batman.

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Speaker 1: Did die in that one.

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Speaker 3: Munson makes a run for the hills.

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Speaker 2: Before you know, Zarkov tries to make him get on

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the ship, threatening him with a gun.

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Speaker 3: Get in the ship.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot you.

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Speaker 3: You're crazy, I'm out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Flash Gordon squishes in with the airplane.

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Completely accidental, however, Flash takes out Munson.

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Speaker 1: Sorry Muson, our good friend William Hootkins.

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Speaker 2: The third here's the other thing's a little weird. Doctor

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Zarkoff builds a rocket in the middle of Greenhouse. Yeah, okay,

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which is a little far fetched, although Elon Musk basically

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is doing the same thing. Okay, but the rocket ship

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can't be operated alone. You gotta have two people because

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somebody's got to press the freaking red lever.

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Speaker 1: I yes, that was my that was my thought as well.

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ship capable of going into outer space, but it can't

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unless you have two people operating.

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Speaker 3: Pushed the red lever.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I love these movies, okay, but apparently when you take

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off into space and you go to Mongo, it's kind

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of like a wet dream because.

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Speaker 3: It's erotic.

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Speaker 2: Melody Anderson could barely keep her clothes on inside the

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Rocket Show, and they're all passed out. They're sweaty, and

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they're having it's very erotic, and the rocket ship is

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very phallic. It's very phallic. And then of course when

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they get to Mango, Ming pulls out his magic green

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and hypnotizes her to do this magic erotic dance, which

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is weird until you find out that Dino de Lorentis

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told Lorenzo simple, Hey, how's the script going pretty good?

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I got my buddy Bob Guccioni over here. Why don't

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you ask him for some ideas. Bob Guccioni, the guy

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who created Penthouse Magazine, he had some input into Flash Gordon.

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Speaker 1: Brian Blessed talks about the fact that Dino de Larentiz

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would show up on the set, show up on the set,

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and he scared the crap out of everyone, and finally

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Mike Hodges had enough and he was like, we can't

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nobody could do anything with you here. You instead of

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I don't think you tell del Reentis to f off,

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I just don't think you do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've got two star Wars Indiana Jones connections. I

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want to talk about real quick, all right. In the

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movie Flash Gordon, Prince Baron, I believe what runs up

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to this guy who's got the special eye goggles on

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and he rips him off and it's this kind of

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grotesque wires coming out of his eye sockets. Yes, freak

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me out as a kid. Okay, And that guy is

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actually the same guy who played Lobot and the Empire

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strikes back. The guy who has that weird robot ear

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thing on, who's Letto Kelriskian's right hand man. But the

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guy at the beginning, they're all making their offerings to me,

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and the guy from Ardentia who stands up and says,

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since you blasted our kingdom into Adams, we've had nothing

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the guy. It's Captain.

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Speaker 2: It's Katanga Captain Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, But

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what I really wanted to talk about. I've been waiting

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to talk about one of my favorite parts in the movies,

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and this is one I get jabs at, Like people

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make fun of this part. Yeah, the football scene.

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Speaker 1: So it's it was supposed to be just a regular

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old bawl.

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Speaker 2: And Sam jane Jo's is like, well, wait a minute,

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he's a football player. Yeah, this ought to be like

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a football fight.

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Speaker 1: And they had the eggs that they were going to

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present as like the offering toming perfect football.

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Speaker 2: It was great, and they play that that cool queen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Melody Anderson jumps in it starts cheering,

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go flash go. It's go flash go. It is a

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bit absurd.

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Speaker 2: It's absurd, but he's launching football is at the bad guys.

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Clydes gets in trouble by me because he's not keeping

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him on the right pills or whatever. And Topel is like,

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you know, the guy who keeps shotguns, snapping it to

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him until he hits him right in the head with

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one and then knocks him out. Okay, let's flip back

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to Highlander. Let's talk about the movie, the actual movie

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you've got this guy who's directing music videos

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to direct this movie. He has got his own way

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Can I just talk for just a second about three

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of the coolest transition scenes in any movie from the eighties.

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You've got number one, You've got the garage transition scene

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where somehow they move the camera moves up through the

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ceiling of this garage and peeks out over the top

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of the Scottish Highlands. How did they do that?

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Speaker 2: It's freaking amazing. It is freaking The transitions are shockingly good.

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Speaker 1: And then you have this moment later on when he

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gets kicked out of the land and Connor macloud falls

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into exhaustion against the rock and suddenly his face transitions

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into the Mona Lisa picture that's on the side of

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the building in New York City.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And then transition number three. They're probably more of them,

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We pan in through the window of Connor mcloud's New

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York City apartment. He's sharpening his sword. He hears something

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and turns back and looks behind him at the aquarium.

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into the aquarium, then rises up and suddenly we're looking

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at the top of the water where they're on the

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lake in Scotland again, and Ramirez is lessening McLeod on

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how to balance ballance balance.

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Speaker 2: It's a very karate kid type of shot right there.

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Speaker 1: It is, I mean, and he's the he's the mister

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Miyagi character. But that transition scene was incredible transitions.

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Speaker 2: They're amazing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is before CGI, this is this is

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm willing to forgive some of that, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing cell animation because he didn't have computers

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for sure.

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Speaker 1: And it was I mean, I thought it was pretty good.

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and Christopher Lambert's character McLeod's like, stop rocking the boat.

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I can't swim, you stupid haggins, right right, So Sean

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out of the boat on purpose. He can't swim, right.

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I can't die. It's one of the revelations to the

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character where it comes to realize he.

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Speaker 1: Almost giggles underwater.

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pivotal scene in the movie. When he was filming that scene,

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they were actually filming it at a Scottish lock right,

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you think the water's gonna be cold, and then you're like, this,

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water's cold. Water's way colder than you thought it was

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gonna be cold, but not that cold.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The second time, you know it's gonna be freezing. The

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third time you say, that's the last time we're doing this,

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that's the last take.

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Speaker 1: But then he comes up and he comes out of

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the water and he has the fish fall out of

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his kilt. Right, yes, well his kilt was too short.

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trout through the pipes, so they're flipping around around whenever

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they fall out of his kilt. Here's another camera scene

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that I was just blown away with that I had

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to stop and go, how the heck did they do this?

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the wrestling match, they have the camera panned through the

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auditorium above everybody else. They didn't have drones back right, right?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it like on those wires aren't?

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Speaker 1: Yes? So the guy, the guy's name is Garrett Brown.

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what they use what they use in football games now.

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which is a camera that's on cables that they control

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with a computer. And that's how they get it up

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section of Highlander, I just want to give a quick

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shout out to my buddy Brandon Hasselton. He is a

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friend of mine in front of the show. He always

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listens to the podcast, gives me feedback. I really appreciate him.

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This is his all time favorite movie, like Highlander is

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top of the heat for him. He has declared it

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the perfect movie. He sees a lot of biblical imagery

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between the Kurgan and McLeod. Right, the good guy and

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the bad guy chase each other across time and eventually

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they're gonna fight yep, and who's gonna win. I think

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that's a great hook for a movie.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and the you know Queen that part about the

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immortality Queen was originally slated to just do one song, yes, movie,

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just one song, but then they watched like twenty minutes

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of footage from the movie and were inspired to write

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several songs, which is why they basically end up with

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the whole soundtrack themselves. But Brian May was inspired by

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that idea of living forever, meaning you're gonna lose everyone

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you love over and over again, which is what inspired

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him to write the song who Wants to Live Forever?

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Great song. He's singing the first lines of that song.

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Did you know that? Really? Yeah? That's Brian May singing

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the first lines of the song. He sings the first

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verse and Freddy Mercury comes in for the second. Really. Yes.

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Speaker 2: So Highlander does not have an official soundtrack, okay, right, However,

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Queen has an album called A Kind of Magic Yes,

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came out in eighty six. On this album, you have

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a song called a Kind of Magic, right.

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Speaker 1: Which is a line from the movie. It's what he

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says Rachel twice yes, as he rescues her as a

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little girl from the German and she's like, you're We're dead,

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and he was like it's kind of magic. And then

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when he tells her he's not going to see her again,

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last thing he says to her is it's kind of magic.

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American release, which means that when he says that last

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line to her of its kind of magic as he's

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leaving on the elevator, it's the first time the American

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audience ever heard it, and it didn't make a dang.

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But so this is probably why the movie did not

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do as well in America as they cut some kind

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of critical stuff.

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Speaker 2: That scene with the Germans really cool. It is if

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you haven't seen it, if you're American and you haven't

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seen it. He rescues Rachel, who's this older woman secretary

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as a young girl from a Nazi killer and for

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many many years serves him. Okay, so back to the soundtrack.

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You have a kind of Magic, you have one Year

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of Love. You have a song called who Wants to

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Live Forever, which we talked about. You have a song

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called Don't.

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Speaker 3: Lose Your Head.

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Speaker 2: You have a song called give Me the Prize, which

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is freaking awesome. It's Kurgan's theme and it's hard rock

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and it's give me the prize and then you have

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Princess of the Universe.

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Speaker 5: To the case.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of magic. Is really basically for the soundtrack

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for Higland. From the Dawn of Time we came moving

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silently down through the centuries. The red text was supposed

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to be a place marker that they were supposed to

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replace or not have, but the producers thought that actually

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looks pretty cool, let's keep that. And the audio track

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was something that Sean Connery did later production had wrapped,

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as we mentioned, and they said, oh, hey, we forgot

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to have you do this part. So he did it

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from his house in the through. That's why you get

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the echo effect. He's in his toilet with a microphone

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recording the first lines of the movie.

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Speaker 3: What you didn't hear.

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Speaker 2: Was the flush after he finished.

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Speaker 1: Recording, trying to record.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Ralvie, I'm out here, and the audio.

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Speaker 1: So we go from that intro by mister Connery himself

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into a crazy wrestling match which was supposed to be

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an NHL game. Yes, the clacking of the sticks before

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the game was supposed to transition into the clacking of swords,

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and that's what sparked his memory and so they went

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to the NHL and the NHL said, no, we don't

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want hockey to be known as a violence sport. Are

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you kidding?

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Speaker 2: That's funny. Here's the funny part about this. This is

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supposed to take place in Madison Square Garden, right right, Yeah,

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garage underneath Mason Square Garden. Right, Mason Square Garden doesn't

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have a parking game.

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Speaker 1: It does not have parking garage and anything.

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Speaker 2: This is actually shot in New Jersey. The wrestling match

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was shot in New Jersey where the New Jersey nets

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and I think the Devil's played. The parking garage scene

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was shot in London.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the thing about this movie is like so

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many of the New York scenes are shot in London.

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London production, So most of your footage is actually shot overseas.

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk about this fight scene at

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the beginning of Islander. Okay, super cool, queen right into

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the action, right right, A wrestling match match. We have

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the introduction of the character. He's walking in the parking

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garage and you have this guy sneak out behind him

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and say, McLeod, facile. Then they have this awesome, cool sit.

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Speaker 1: I love that his first line is wait, and then

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it's too late. Facile is ready to fight and he's

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jumping in. It's kind of hard to be sympathetic to

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a guy who slices the head off of somebody else

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at the very beginning of a movie unless his first

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line was wait a minute, you know, and then it

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makes it okay, okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: So the sword fight is awesome. There is some ridiculousness.

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The guy that does fifty thousand backhand springs for no

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apparent reasons.

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Speaker 1: Literally electic is he still flipping? Why is he doing that?

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I don't know. That's weird.

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Speaker 2: And you have McLeod reaching for five minutes the sword

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under the car.

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Speaker 1: It's building tension. Okay, while they still get you a

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nice good close up of that samurai handle, which was

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really cool.

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Speaker 2: It was cool. Here's what I wish they would have done.

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I like the idea that these immortals would have known

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each other over this long period of time. It would

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have been cool to have him say McLoud, it's me.

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We've been friends for a long time, but now's your day.

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I've come for your head. Yeah, or don't announce yourself

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and try to take his head off without him even seeing,

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but instead he's behind him, and so, as McLoud.

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Speaker 1: I think it has to be a fight. I don't

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think you can sneak up and kill people from behind.

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Why not, because I think that's one of the rules.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the rules for a second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the rules of.

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Speaker 2: A Highlander are the guy has to cut off your head, yes,

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for you to die.

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Speaker 3: That's the only way you can die.

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Speaker 2: Also, you can't fight on holy ground right now. The

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movie doesn't explore this very much, but as I understand it,

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the TV show did a little bit. Okay, So there's

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a scene at the end of the movie where the

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Kurgan and McLeod are in church, right, and Kirgan is

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being a told jerk to the nuns and the priests

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and not real church by the way, yeah, and real nuns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they like the church really didn't want to

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do it, but they needed the money.

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Speaker 2: And then he like Clancy Brown, apologized to him after

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the shot. So, but they can't fight on holy ground

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right now? Is that a rule or is that a tradition?

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They mentioned that it's tradition.

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Speaker 1: The way that Sean Connery puts it, it sounds like

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it's like a rule that is a rule, because they've

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put these rules in place themselves. Like it's not like

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lightning's going to strike you dead if you try to

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fight in a church. It's just hey, we've got guidelines

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and you don't break them, right because we just have

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a mutual respect as immortals.

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Speaker 2: But the Kurgan doesn't seem to have respect for anybody

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Speaker 1: But he has respect for the immortals rules. Okay, he

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won't fight on only ground either.

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Speaker 2: Well, as I understand the TV show McLeod's cousin Dug

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in McLoud, they were on holy ground and they start

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to fight and then lightning does start to flash, and

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so there's this idea that there is a higher power

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holding these guys capable.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 2: But that scene at the beginning super cool, very cool

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Speaker 1: And I love that they somehow get the sprinklers going,

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so get the fight on the rain. And to listen

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to Russell, Okay he talking, he just kind of laughs.

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He's like I know it's absurd that they're fighting in

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a garage in the rain, but it looks cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And all the car lights come on and

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they start honking, and the windshields blow out.

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Speaker 1: And then a hubcap. Good.

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Speaker 2: Here's the absurd thing about that fight.

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Speaker 3: So I'm willing to go all in.

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Speaker 2: On all this stuff. I'm in right, super cool. Conor

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McLeod takes this guy's head clean swipe. Absolutely no witnesses,

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nobody's there. He pulls out of the parking garage and

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the entire New York Police Department pulls him over.

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Speaker 1: He hears the sirens, which makes him panic, which is

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why he puts the sword up. He's trying to get

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out before they get there. He takes Eddie Murphy's car

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from forty eight hours. That really sucks because I think

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it's got like half a million dollars in the dru

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that's true. But they catch him coming out too fast,

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I mean.

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Speaker 2: Eating, and the whole NYPD pulls him over.

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Speaker 1: Yes, somebody discovered a dead box.

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, called the forensic slash sword specialist

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out here.

474
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: Tell me what this is? A sword?

475
00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: Here's the other scene I want to talk about. Okay,

476
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,359
This is where I'm trying to understand the rule, and

477
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,400
they sometimes they kind of break their own rules, and

478
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,680
so anyway, I'm just trying to understand.

479
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,039
Speaker 1: All right.

480
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: So McLeod as a young man in Scotland. They're gonna

481
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,400
have this fight between his clan and another clan.

482
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,559
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't what is killed.

483
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,319
Speaker 2: Mcloud's a young I think he's supposed to be like

484
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,160
eighteen or nineteen.

485
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: He's a young guy.

486
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,559
Speaker 2: Well, little do we know, but the Kurgan is fighting

487
00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:22,039
with the other klan, right, and his deal is like

488
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,279
nobody fights for Cloud with me.

489
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: I get him Connor conn. It's important that he says

490
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,440
Connor because.

491
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,319
Speaker 2: Because they're all Mcloud's thank you, thank you, one name Connor. Right,

492
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,000
So they have this fight, which I think is ridiculous

493
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,680
because he's chasing these guys around. He's like, fight me,

494
00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:42,680
you cowards, but nobody'll fight him. Which if you're not

495
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,319
gonna fight me, I'm still gonna take your head.

496
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,079
Speaker 3: Fight me, you coward.

497
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: Okay, well you're dead, You're dead. And then the Kurgan

498
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:51,920
shows up. He's like here I am McLeod, let's fight

499
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,400
and stabs him and he dies right, Well, he gets

500
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,079
one stab in.

501
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: He gets one stab in, and he's about to behead him.

502
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,759
And then the other guy's, his compatriots, his cousin, his friend.

503
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480
They run and tackle the Kurgan and keep him and

504
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,599
he says, another day, McLeod, that could be only one.

505
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: See that's ridiculous too.

506
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: It is a little.

507
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: The Kurgan is there, McLeod's on the ground. I need

508
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,319
to take his head. I'm not gonna let three smelly

509
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,640
Haggis's take me from the prize. Okay, he stabs him,

510
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:28,599
I believe guy. He stabs him and McLeod dies right

511
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:32,000
just a little, yeah, okay, flash forward like an hour

512
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:36,079
into the movie. The Kurgan stabs a marine, threw his back,

513
00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:39,599
picks him up, holds him for like forty five seconds,

514
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,440
throws him, and the guy's in the hospital bed making

515
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,559
sketch artists pictures for.

516
00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: The the operative word. There is marine. You can't kill

517
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,480
those guys, all right?

518
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: Sorry? That dude was like, what time's breakfast? Right, I'm

519
00:25:59,319 --> 00:25:59,960
totally fine.

520
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:04,319
Speaker 1: He was. He was. He was vigilante number one.

521
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: On the New York streets that night, which and then

522
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,440
he unloaded a clip on the Kurgan. Yeah, he had

523
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,720
five bolet holes in his shirt.

524
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: Yep, and then he got up.

525
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:12,519
Speaker 2: Five minutes later.

526
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: So does he not die?

527
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: So I understand that they don't die, but do they

528
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,079
die in resurrect Yeah.

529
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,519
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. My impression is, is it the

530
00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:22,799
first time you die, you actually kind of go through

531
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:26,319
the death process before you you come back, But after

532
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,680
you've died a few more times, you're just better at

533
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,279
getting better.

534
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, that's fine.

535
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,599
Speaker 1: I from what I understand in the novelization, like the

536
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,599
Kurgan's dad is the one that killed him like as

537
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,880
a child, like as a young man, smashing his head

538
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,720
with a rock or something.

539
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,799
Speaker 2: And crushed his skull. Yeah, and then when he resurrected,

540
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,400
he made his dad eat a hot coal and that's the.

541
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,839
Speaker 1: Way to go.

542
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be unpleasant. Here's the other rule

543
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,359
that we forgot to mention. The other rule is that

544
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:01,680
immortals can have children, which I think that's okay.

545
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,319
Speaker 1: It's interesting because Gregory Wyden said that he had more

546
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:10,000
emphasis on the rules in the script, but apparently that

547
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,839
wasn't one of the rules in the script because in

548
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,799
the script he had thirty seven kids, right, So they

549
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,119
changed the rules and then disregarded them. And in the

550
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,200
original script there wasn't There wasn't like this prize at

551
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,920
the end. There wasn't the idea there can be only one.

552
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:30,119
And so the conclusion of the movie, where he's mortal

553
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,279
and he has perfect understanding and all of that stuff

554
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:35,880
was something that they came up with later on. And

555
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,880
that he could have kids, that was something that came

556
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,319
up with through the production of the movie. So this

557
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,519
is what Mike Hodges said had to say about filming

558
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:46,480
Flash Gordon. He said, I had a producer who spoke

559
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:50,039
mangled English. I had a production designer who spoke none

560
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:53,839
at all. Both like ming seemed to have arrived from

561
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,559
another galaxy. Once I realized that the film was in

562
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720
many ways out of my control, I realized and I

563
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:02,880
made it up as I went along. I loved it.

564
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: He also said, it's the only twenty million dollar movie

565
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,519
that was totally improved. Give it up to Mike Hodges.

566
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:11,240
Let's go back to Flashcourt.

567
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: After the football.

568
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,279
Speaker 2: Scene with Flash Gordon, he's executed. They don't even give

569
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,279
him the dignity of being executed fully clothed. He has

570
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:22,279
to be in his underwear, right right, So they execute

571
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,960
Flash in his underwear. Dale was crying her eyes out,

572
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,079
and Aura, Princess Ara Ming's daughter, decides she's going to

573
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,160
resurrect Flash for her own pleasure. Right, Aura is banging

574
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:39,759
everybody in the universe once she revives Flash. Now she

575
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,119
takes him back. She's got this idea. She's going to

576
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,079
take him to a Boria. Right, and that's what you have,

577
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,039
the telepathic Yes, Wow, this girl's really turned me on. Right.

578
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:50,559
Speaker 1: What here's the thing.

579
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with Flash Cordon that bugs me. Okay, Yeah,

580
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,279
I'm an old fashioned guy.

581
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

582
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,079
Speaker 2: It flashes in love with Dale Arden, that's fine.

583
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, after knowing her for all of thirty minutes fifteen.

584
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:07,279
Speaker 2: Minutes, right, he had a very erotic flight with her.

585
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that they almost died on a way to build

586
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:11,759
a relationship.

587
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: He gets there five seconds later. Mean's daughter is totally untrustworthy,

588
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:24,240
but she's you know, hot, super hot, And it's kind

589
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,880
of that question, like, never say never again, this girl

590
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,240
might kill me. I'm still willing to take a chance.

591
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,599
Speaker 3: But she brings him.

592
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: To Aboia where her other boyfriend, Prince Baron is there. Okay,

593
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:42,960
and he hates Flash because he's a competitor and Prince

594
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,519
Baron and Flash are gonna face off in this stump

595
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:50,920
where the wood beast resides. Okay, this is the most

596
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,039
wood beast. Yes, yeah, this is the most tense scene

597
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:56,319
in the movie to me, and as a kid, scared

598
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:56,920
the crap out of me.

599
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

600
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: So for those of you who don't remember, there's.

601
00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: No way you can't remember. You either didn't see the

602
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:05,400
movie or that's true. Yeah. The most memorable scene.

603
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:08,519
Speaker 2: There's this animal that's kind of like a scorpion, like

604
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,440
a green scorpion that lives in a tree.

605
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,319
Speaker 1: Grab slimy scorpion.

606
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:15,079
Speaker 2: And you reach your hand in and you do it

607
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,039
until somebody gets stung and they die.

608
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,799
Speaker 1: The delight on her face is she watches the kid

609
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:24,599
get stung and then get killed. It's yeah, she's messed.

610
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,079
Speaker 3: Up, all right.

611
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: While this is going on, Dale Arden is back being

612
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,839
prepared for her wedding right where she has to marry

613
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:34,440
meing for the hour, right, But she escapes, so she's

614
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,680
running down the hallways. She has this really cool scene

615
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,519
where she's got she's managed to get a gun and

616
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:45,240
she's shooting at these guys in their red suits right, right,

617
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,759
but so she's doing these gymnastics and shooting, and she

618
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,960
finally shoots one in the face, right, and when she

619
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,920
shoots him, you have this big gas expulsion from the

620
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:02,599
laser wound. And Leddy Anderson said that when they filmed that,

621
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:08,480
that guy threw up because the smoke got and he

622
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:10,240
breathed in the smoke and he had to rip his

623
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:11,759
mask off and puke on the floor.

624
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: So, oh, my classic classic. Those guys are worse than stormtroopers.

625
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,039
I mean, talk about the most inept soldiers. How did

626
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:24,359
this guy conquer the universe with these guys as his army?

627
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,279
That doesn't even make sense. Yeah, they were speaking of

628
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,039
things that does that don't make sense. You have these

629
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,440
weird jumps in the story that you have no transition for,

630
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,559
Like you think, okay, so number one, you think that

631
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,480
doctor Zorkov's brain has been drained, yes, right, yes, And

632
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:47,200
then Clytus Tells tells General Kala don't get him past

633
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,759
the level three. He leaves and she's like level six, Oh,

634
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,839
what's going on? What is the purpose of You never know? Why?

635
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Why did that happen? Right? What? What was the level six?

636
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680
What did it mean? Nothing? No, explanation at all. And

637
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:06,000
then you got doctor Zartov walking around like a zombie.

638
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:09,640
You don't know if he's been lobotomized or not. He's

639
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,759
suddenly with Dale. He's talking very sporadically. It's confused, and

640
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:16,720
then all of a sudden they're on a motorcycle ship

641
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640
and he's like, yep, I just fool them all. And

642
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,519
I'm like, where's the rest of the story here? What

643
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,559
happened to that?

644
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:24,599
Speaker 2: That part was confusing?

645
00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: And then the same thing happens with Princess Hottie h

646
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:35,279
a a Aurora bory Ellis. She comes back and suddenly

647
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,880
she's being whipped with a cat and iron tails.

648
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: We don't have.

649
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,319
Speaker 2: Time for exposition. Not the boar worms, the bore worms.

650
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,319
You talk about my imagination running wild.

651
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: Because they don't tell you what they were.

652
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: Exactly, which makes them cool.

653
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,279
Speaker 1: It sounds horrible. They sound like the thing from the

654
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:58,079
Star Trek, the little earwig things that they'd stick in

655
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,400
your beach bird.

656
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,079
Speaker 2: That's what they are to you. That's what they are.

657
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: So then let's just talk about the awesome music that

658
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000
comes in on the battles of this.

659
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 5: Okay, oh man, yeah, this freaking awesome man.

660
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: The whole thing is awesome.

661
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: So this again, Queen is the soundtrack on this one,

662
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,480
but they weren't who they wanted originally. Originally they wanted

663
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,559
Pink Floyd and as the click track, if you will.

664
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,640
For the whole wedding ceremony, they were playing Shine on You,

665
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,680
Crazy Diamond for the whole scene, like you watch. So

666
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:44,559
I want to go back in and like put in

667
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,400
that music. See what's what it looks like when people

668
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,000
are walking around to that song, because that's what they're

669
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:51,400
listening to and they're filming.

670
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: It, and the music is very it has a very

671
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,559
Pink Floyd type of feel to it, even though it

672
00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:58,359
is Queen, it has.

673
00:33:58,279 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: A very Pink Floyd kind of feel.

674
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Totally agree, I totally agree. Okay, So one scene I

675
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,319
want to talk about in Flash, Gordon, Flash and Baron

676
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,239
end up being carried by the Hawkman back to the

677
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:16,719
Hawkman Capital, which looks a lot like cloud City, right,

678
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,400
looks like bestmin from Empress strikes back, right, okay, and

679
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:23,079
they decide we're gonna fight. Voltan puts him on this

680
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,639
revolving disc, throws him a couple of bullwhips and if

681
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,920
you fall off the disc you fall into space plus

682
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,960
their spikes, and as a kid, I was like, this

683
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,719
is so cool. Baron and Flash fight right, and as

684
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,920
Baron is about to fall off to his death, Flash

685
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,800
saves it. And that's the part where the whole movie

686
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,000
flips and Prince Baron says, where you go, I will

687
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,199
fall off. That's when they talk Voltan into join us.

688
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,360
We're gonna overthrow me.

689
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,079
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Oh yeah, for sure.

690
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,519
Speaker 2: Flash's morality is his superpower. He doesn't have any ultra

691
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,840
strength or super speed or X ray vision. He doesn't

692
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,199
have any of that. What he's got he doesn't have immortality.

693
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,000
He has humanity and morality. He's a great guy.

694
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: So now we've talked about Queen. Yes, both of these

695
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:20,440
movies had composers as well. Wow, okay, so Flash had

696
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,880
an original composer. I don't even remember what his name was.

697
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:25,960
Apparently he was so inebriated the whole time that he

698
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,400
wrote about thirty seconds worth of musical music, and so

699
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,199
they were freaking out. They bring in Lake Howard to

700
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,559
write music, theme music, you know, underlying score for the

701
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:42,239
movie that the Queen hasn't done. Yeah, and he gets

702
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,840
to work and he has to have it done in

703
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,880
ten days. We're talking about an entire score in ten days. Anyway,

704
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:55,760
he writes NonStop, NonStop, finishes it in time, and then

705
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,960
passes out and they can't wake him. Eventually they have

706
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:03,679
to like give him an injection of something to get

707
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,760
him to come out of it. And his wife is like,

708
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,760
do you know what day it is? And he's like, yeah,

709
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,199
it's Monday, and she says, no, it's Friday. Wow, you

710
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,119
have been asleep this whole time. And the doctor's like,

711
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:19,760
you've got double pneumonia and both of your lungs. Like

712
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,800
he had nearly killed himself writing the score to this movie.

713
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,880
And when they, you know, finally revive it and tell

714
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,960
him all this stuff, he goes, I feel fine. And then,

715
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,000
of course, to go back to Highlander. We have our

716
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,960
friend Michael Cayman, you will remember, wrote the music for

717
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,920
both Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. Yes, but he was

718
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,800
working very closely with Queen throughout this process.

719
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: Now, one of the things I want to talk about

720
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:53,400
during that church scene when mcleoud and the Kurgan are

721
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,360
talking and the Kurgan's giving the nuns a hard time

722
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,480
and the priests and all this stuff right at the

723
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:00,000
end of it, he makes this big anough.

724
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:02,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got something to say.

725
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: No, it's better to burn out than to fade away,

726
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:08,480
right right, And that's actually from a Neil Young.

727
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,679
Speaker 1: Album, right hey, hey, my mind.

728
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,079
Speaker 2: However, this movie was filled nineteen eighty six. Yes, I'm

729
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:17,119
wondering if he got that from Pyromania by def Leppert.

730
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,559
Speaker 1: I have your answer, Yeah, well you got he got

731
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,119
it from Pyromania. And the reason that and I don't

732
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,039
know this one hundred percent. I haven't heard that that

733
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:27,119
that is where it came from. But what I do

734
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,199
know is that the entire time that he wasn't shooting,

735
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:35,000
he was listening to heavy metal on his headphones, and

736
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:37,440
so there's no way he was listening to Neil Young.

737
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,079
He came up with that line that was like, there's

738
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:43,440
an improv line. He wasn't in the script. He said

739
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,400
that on his own. That was him maybe one of

740
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,000
the most memorable lines in the whole movie. That was

741
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:51,920
him improving that line. And I my I would bet

742
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,639
one hundred dollars to one that he got it from Deflipper.

743
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: Did you know the chrispher Lambert did all of the

744
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,280
dubbing for the French version of Highlander himself.

745
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Which goes into why it was such a big success overseas.

746
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:06,639
Speaker 2: One thing I want to mention about Flash Gordon. Okay,

747
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,760
there was a whole dream sequence where Dale was supposed

748
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,639
to turn into the Spider, this crazy spider character like

749
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,679
Meing had hypnotized splash or something, and he was supposed

750
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:21,360
to see Dale as this hideous spider person.

751
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:25,519
Speaker 1: Again this is there's no script and Dino Dealer Intos

752
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:28,440
decides that this is going to happen, and probably like

753
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,159
while drinking Chardonay the night before or something.

754
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,199
Speaker 2: Right, So Melody Anderson spelt like six hours into makeup

755
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:39,679
getting olds spidered up, and Mike Hodges walks in, is like, wow,

756
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,280
that looks really interesting. We're not shooting this at all.

757
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,800
It has nothing to do with our movie.

758
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: She's like, what.

759
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: The other thing I want to talk about with Flash Gordon? Okay,

760
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,239
And we'll get into post production here a second. But

761
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,079
Flash Gordon's plan to save the Earth is to kill me.

762
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,840
If he kills me, that ends the attack on the Earth, right,

763
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,800
and he's got like two and a half minutes to.

764
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: Do it, So what's he gonna do?

765
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,599
Speaker 2: He hijacks the war rocket, Ajax and he's going to

766
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,480
crash it into the shield and that would then cause

767
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,519
the explosion. It would kill everybody, including Flash and Dale

768
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:17,039
and Zarkoff and everybody everybody. Right, Well, Zarkoff pulls a

769
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:20,519
Han solo slash return of the Jedi Plan where he

770
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,960
disengages the shield. So now the plan is out the window, right,

771
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,039
blowing up the war rocket to kill everybody in the

772
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:28,559
wedding party out the window.

773
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:29,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

774
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: So now Flash is just going to crash the rocket

775
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,559
right into smack dab into the middle of the wedding

776
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,320
uh huh, and just happens to hit me right dead center.

777
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: Good aim.

778
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: That to me is in one part amazing and one

779
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,800
part ridiculous.

780
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Well that's the whole freaking movie.

781
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: Man, it is, and I'm I don't care.

782
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:52,079
Speaker 1: It is like it is like a high school musical

783
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,000
that somebody got a million dollars to cost me. I mean,

784
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:59,440
it's just crazy. It's just crazy. The stuff that they

785
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,079
had all it is awesome. It is awesome. A lot

786
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:04,519
of my awesome is nostalgia from being like a six

787
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:05,960
year old kid watching this stuff.

788
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:09,119
Speaker 2: I know, if this really is I'm leaning on like

789
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,519
fifth grade type of feelings.

790
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: Here. Yeah, but let's I mean, we are kind of

791
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,880
moving into post production of this. So I mentioned the

792
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,760
success overseas of Highlander, and we've talked already neither one

793
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,280
of these movies were a success in the US when

794
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,639
they first came out. So a lot of people they

795
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,400
didn't want what Flashbordon was given. It was just over

796
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,119
the top. And what they had just fell fallen in

797
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:38,039
love with was this monochromatic I mean, black and white

798
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:41,800
and gray stuff from Star Wars, and so it did

799
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,400
not sit well with the Star Wars conditioned audience at all. Okay,

800
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:49,960
unless you were like us in like six and seven, yeah,

801
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:50,840
watching this thing.

802
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, are we moving into judgment here or.

803
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,519
Speaker 1: Well no, it's just it's important to note that it

804
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,320
wasn't a success, and Highland was the same way like

805
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,880
it came out, And the first mistake that they made

806
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,559
was they cut some crucial scenes. They cut the Kurgain

807
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,320
licking the priests, and they cut the scene the Nazi scene.

808
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:14,280
It just I mean, they took out the things that

809
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,400
helped it make sense and helped you get some character

810
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,599
on stuff. And then they gave us a poster. The

811
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,320
original poster was a large black and white, very grainy

812
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,440
like he looked like he had leprosy or something. Picture

813
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:32,440
of Christopher Lambert's face and it just said Highlander on it.

814
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,679
It didn't say anything about being immortal. It didn't have

815
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:38,119
any swords, nothing to give you any information about what

816
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,599
this movie was about. And seeing a greeny, black and

817
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:42,920
white picture of this guy's face is not going to

818
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,800
make me want to go watch this movie, right. It

819
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,920
was actually part two being announced and its success overseas

820
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,400
that caused people to become interested. And it had its

821
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,679
big success through video, and so when they went to France,

822
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,079
suddenly they're like, see and Christopher Lambert treated like a

823
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:07,320
rock star and everybody loves it in Europe because they've

824
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,440
they've got those missing scenes in there, it makes sense,

825
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,360
and they do a poster that has him it's like

826
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,320
the scene from the parking garage where he's got his

827
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,679
arms out. You've got the Kurgan like silhouetted in the back,

828
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:23,519
and you get an idea of it being about immortals.

829
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:26,079
And that's I mean, that's why it got the success

830
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:30,239
that it did. And Flash Gordon. Fortunately the guys who

831
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,639
were our age at the time, some of them ended

832
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,599
up being big time directors like Robert Rodriguez, Yes, and

833
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,760
Seth MacFarlane, who when he decided to make ted which

834
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,239
is the movie with Mark Wahlberg and a Teddy Bear

835
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,920
that's vulgar and inappropriate voiced by Seth MacFarlane, he had

836
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,760
this dream that you know that Sam Jones was going

837
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,000
to be in it as this kind of over the

838
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:02,400
top caricature of himself, and Sam Jones agreed to do it.

839
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,079
Speaker 2: They're flying on a rocket cycle, flying blind on a

840
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,400
rocket cycle.

841
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:14,199
Speaker 1: Bline blind? What a rocket cycle? Okay, so you want

842
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:15,519
to talk about Sam Jones for a minute.

843
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: We need to talk about this is the most interesting

844
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,400
and yet sad part of the movie, kind of heartbreaking.

845
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: So they started the production and Sam Jones came in

846
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,320
and injured from a bar fight he had been in

847
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,280
the night before. Yes, he was, from different accounts, kind

848
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,239
of a prima donna or emotionally immature during the shooting

849
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,559
of this movie, and they broke right around Christmas time.

850
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,079
He went back to the States and when it was

851
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,840
come it was time to come back to finish some

852
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,320
final scenes and post production stuff. His representation told him

853
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,440
not to go, and he listened to them. And that

854
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,320
was probably the worst mistake he made as far as

855
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,079
his career goes.

856
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely. In fact, I didn't really understand this. I had

857
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,599
kind of heard rumblings of this. Ninety percent or more

858
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,400
of his lines were dubbed over by another actor. That

859
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,960
actor's name is Peter Mehrinker, which has kind of been

860
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,559
a secret up until recently. But it was heartbreaking for

861
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:17,159
him and really just kind of a dumb kid move,

862
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,119
you know what I mean. I'm going to take on

863
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,079
Dino de Laurentis. Oh wait, I got fired. He couldn't

864
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,119
go on the Tonight Show, and he couldn't go on

865
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:27,639
these things to sell the movie and make it successful, right,

866
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,599
And therefore we got part two and part three canceled.

867
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:34,159
Speaker 1: So interestingly, let's talk about the end real quick. You've

868
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:40,440
got the ring sitting there, yes, and the black gloved

869
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:44,119
hand comes to pick it up, and a question mark

870
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,320
comes up as the end question right, and so is

871
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,519
that Clytis's hand?

872
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 2: That is the rumor that it is Clydee's hand.

873
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Because the actor who played Clytis, Peter Wingard, did not

874
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:59,400
want to die. Yes, that's what I like. When it

875
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,400
came down to shoot his death scene, he came in,

876
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:04,360
He's like, you know, Clytus is a very important character.

877
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,280
I don't think we should kill him. And they're like,

878
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,039
but but I mean that's what the that's what script says.

879
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:13,199
He's and he's like, but he I really feel like that.

880
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,159
There are more movies lined up, and I think he

881
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:18,960
would be And certainly Brian Blessed is jumping and he's like,

882
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,800
you die, you bloody well, die.

883
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: Go die die Brian Blessed. Awesome, Hey, I've got something

884
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,199
that was gonna blow you away. Okay. Do you know

885
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,360
who designed the logo for Flash Gordon, the like the

886
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,679
little saturn looking thing, Yeah, Freddie Mercury Get out of Town.

887
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,559
Speaker 3: Yes, he is an artist and he came up with that.

888
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: And they went with it.

889
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: Fantastic, Freddy, very fantastic. So no part too. So interestingly, interestingly,

890
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,920
Flash Gordon, you have a movie that had i'd nearly

891
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:05,159
had forty something years worth of history leading up to it,

892
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:08,320
and then suddenly it's off the radar. After this movie

893
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,280
comes out, right right, almost nothing has.

894
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: Happened with it since then, yes, absolutely nothing.

895
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: And then with Highlander, which didn't perform well, you get

896
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:21,760
five sequels and a series and a cartoon, and I

897
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,480
mean there's all kinds of stuff that bloomed from this thing,

898
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:29,519
which originally was a flop at the box office. Crazy,

899
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:32,119
It's it's still I mean, there's still talk about the

900
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:36,840
reboot of Highlander, and there's talk about a reboot of

901
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,719
Flash Gordon as well. One of the directors, and this

902
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,760
is this is the thing. One of the directors for

903
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:49,000
an animated version of Flash Gordon is Taiko Watiti, who

904
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,320
did Thor Ragnarok. Yeah, now I want you to think

905
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,800
about Thor Ragnarok for just a second. Okay, yeah, yeah,

906
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,679
both based on comics. Yep. The hero arrives at a

907
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,280
four world and is immediately shocked. Flash Gordon and Thor

908
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,079
both right, And then you have at the beginning of

909
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:13,079
Flash Gordon people asking for his autograph. Whenever he is

910
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,920
in New York City with Loki, the girls come up

911
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,320
asking for his autograph. You get a death match with

912
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,719
a guy in green and a guy who is green.

913
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,639
You get I mean, just think about it. Think about

914
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:29,119
all these things. You ultimately team up with a girl

915
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,800
and a doctor to fight the evil overlord who rules

916
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,360
the world. I mean, you just look at the graphics

917
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,000
at the beginning of both of the movies, and they're

918
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,599
very eighties.

919
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

920
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:42,599
Speaker 1: One was made in the eighties and one was made

921
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:44,679
to look like it was in the eighties. They both

922
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,320
steal like a flying vehicle. They both have a guy

923
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,920
who gets his eyes ripped out. Yeah, and then it

924
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:56,639
ends with both of them with a bald guy getting

925
00:47:56,639 --> 00:47:57,679
stabbed through the torsoe.

926
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,599
Speaker 2: Holy cow, Thor Ragner Rock is flashboardon.

927
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: I think that ty Taiko Waktiti is the perfect guy

928
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,480
to be directing the flash Gordon Virgion, I'm all in,

929
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:08,920
let's do it.

930
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, before we get to final judgment D I

931
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,039
just want to throw in a couple of tidbits that

932
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,599
I found really interesting. Okay, Okay, here's a couple of

933
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:19,800
things for you from Holander. Okay. The climax takes place

934
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:22,800
on top of the Silver Cup Studios building. It was

935
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,559
originally supposed to take place on top of the statue

936
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:27,000
of Larty X Men.

937
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

938
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: Also, according to the cast and crew, anytime they were

939
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,119
in Scotland, good chance, Sean Connery was drunk.

940
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Speaker 1: He was only there for a week and they were.

941
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: Seven days and he couldn't lay off the side either.

942
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: Scotland or Wales. Apparently Sean Connery used to gather everyone

943
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,400
around for like these meetings during the day and explain

944
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,119
to them what was going wrong with the movie.

945
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

946
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: The scene where the Kurgan actually kills Ramirez send the

947
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,159
door at the castle. The rocks look styrofoam ish, also

948
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:08,719
wood door, but we're willing to forgive the practical effects. Yes,

949
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,880
but when Clancy Brown came through that door, he swung

950
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,440
his sword too low. He took out the candelabra on

951
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,440
the table and almost took out Sean Connery. Conrie was

952
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:22,880
pissed and walked off the set and said, I'm out

953
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,760
of here, right, I'm not going to get killed for

954
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,840
this movie, right, And Clancy Brownd was like, oh man.

955
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:31,119
He felt really terrible and apologized and they came back

956
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:34,039
and did it again. But it was it was a

957
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:35,119
bad dealer for a little bit.

958
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: So you know the scene that's that they're sitting on

959
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,000
the stairway like that, Ramirez and MacLeod are sitting on

960
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,559
the stairway talking. Yes, they were sitting on the exact

961
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:50,280
part of the stairway that would later fall away, Okay,

962
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,599
and so they're literally sitting on something that's being held

963
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:57,719
up with pins. I think it had to improve the

964
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,719
intensity of that scene that they're just like this could

965
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,519
give way any second and we could fall to our deaths.

966
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: I also heard at the end of Highlander, like once

967
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,199
you claimed the prize that it like released a dragon

968
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,679
that you had to defeat, Like there's this other challenge, right,

969
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,199
like take that dude's head. And then also boom, there's

970
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:17,880
a dragon.

971
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,199
Speaker 1: That show sounds like Super Mario Brothers.

972
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: One of the things that I was just gonna mention.

973
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,800
This is just a side note. This is not a tidbit.

974
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,679
McLeod falls in love and Mary's and ages with Heather,

975
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,400
and then you flash forward for five hundred years and

976
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,440
he has a little fling with Brenda. You have this

977
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:40,360
love scene yep, and then the next like it hard

978
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,840
cuts to him telling her I can't get involved. Yeah, right,

979
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:47,599
which is what everyone wants to hear. Oh, last night

980
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,679
was okay, but today we're not involved.

981
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's interesting her line to him, which I mean,

982
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:58,280
I don't know how well she really is going to

983
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,400
know him at that point she taught she says, most

984
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,480
people are afraid to die. You're afraid to live, right,

985
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,800
that's telling about his character. Yeah, he is a guy who,

986
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,119
because he has seen the loss of people that he's

987
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:15,199
loved over and over, has decided to hold himself up

988
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:18,440
until all of this is you know, over, until the

989
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,880
final battle happens, right right, right, except he may go

990
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:22,840
watch a wrestling match.

991
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:26,599
Speaker 2: You gotta do something at four hundred years.

992
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: Yes, And I mean, of course the guy who has

993
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,159
been trained in swordsmanship and other warfare for the last

994
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:36,840
four hundred years would be incredibly interested in fake rest.

995
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: Are you cool with his hair? I mean, he's got

996
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:44,960
this funky eighties cut.

997
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: It's even call it an eighties cut. It's just like

998
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,760
a French guy in their cut herself.

999
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:58,599
Speaker 2: Like he went to sports clips. Okay, flashback to flash Gordon. Okay,

1000
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,519
they got to the end scene. They didn't know how

1001
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:03,159
to wrap it right, oh right, And they're standing around

1002
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,360
improving a twenty million dollar movie. They're like, okay, Soming

1003
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,480
uses his ring to disappear, and then what like, how

1004
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:12,079
do we celebrate this ending?

1005
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:12,639
Speaker 1: Right?

1006
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 2: And Sam Jones goes, I got it, I got it.

1007
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:28,159
Just film this and so that giant jump, yeah, that's

1008
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:29,480
all improv right.

1009
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: His idea? So he's got the two best football ideas

1010
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:32,960
in the movie.

1011
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,159
Speaker 3: They're great. It worked.

1012
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: Are you ready for final judgment?

1013
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: Let's move into final judgment.

1014
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've you've segued perfectly on why I like

1015
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:48,760
Highlander better than Flash Courton. But to the kings with

1016
00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:55,280
the okay, I mean, in addition to all of the

1017
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,440
other imperfections that we've discussed, Flash Gordon is the guy

1018
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:02,239
at the end of the movie that he was at

1019
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,320
the beginning of the movie. He's a football star. He's

1020
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,599
a football star who's people are asking autographs from Who's

1021
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:11,519
gonna fly and save the plane? He's a football star

1022
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,039
who knocks out the competition in the chamber with the

1023
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:18,280
football game. He tackles over and at the end he's

1024
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,360
spiking the ball and doing celebration in the end zone.

1025
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,800
There's no change, there's no movement in his character. So

1026
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,159
what so that makes a boring story. You've gotta have

1027
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,599
some sort of transition, Whereas in Highlander, you you take

1028
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:38,239
a guy who's given up on love, who's hold himself

1029
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,559
up because he can't let himself love people because it's

1030
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:46,760
too hard to watch them die, who decides even before

1031
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:52,199
he has won the competition. I'm gonna let myself open

1032
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,159
up again and love someone again. He falls for another girl,

1033
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:03,079
and it is it is her who ends up saving

1034
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:06,320
him in the fight. Do you remember he's about to die,

1035
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,760
the Kurgan is about to kill him, and she comes

1036
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,679
in and saves the day. Okay, And then that allows

1037
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,079
him once he wins the battle, that allows him to

1038
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,760
become mortal and to share the love that he had

1039
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:26,760
long for before with Heather, share that with her, he

1040
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:32,400
has the transition. They're out on the Scottish Highlands living life.

1041
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:35,199
You have a transition from the with the character on

1042
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,840
this one, you have the hero's journey, whereas with Flash

1043
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,400
Gordon you have Flash Yeah.

1044
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so let me just say I don't

1045
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,800
give an f about transition. Okay, Flash Gordon is perfect

1046
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,239
from the moment he shows up. He is a stud

1047
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,440
football player who is a leader and interested in being

1048
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,239
a great dude, and he brings that humanity to all

1049
00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:59,880
of Mongo.

1050
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:09,639
Speaker 1: Okay, Mungo, just a pond, Okay, Flash Gordon.

1051
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: Yes it's goofy, Yes it's campy, But as our friend

1052
00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:17,239
Pat Cavagello says, you've got to appreciate the awesomeness. You

1053
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,519
have the over the top Brian Blessed, you have great

1054
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,760
supporting actors in Max Fonsaido and Timothy Dalton. You have

1055
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,360
the sexiest woman in the universe. You have all this awesomeness,

1056
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,880
and I think you have the perfect fifth grade boy fantasy. Okay,

1057
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,920
you have stud football player shows up, saves the universe,

1058
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,639
gets the girl, defeats the bad guy, and not only

1059
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,760
all that, he's honored, right, Prince Baron says, we owe

1060
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,400
everything to Flash at the end of the movie. He's

1061
00:55:47,519 --> 00:55:50,719
like the greatest guy in the entire universe. It's every

1062
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,639
young boys fantasy.

1063
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 3: I love Highlander two and it's.

1064
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: Goofy and campy and awesome.

1065
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:58,159
Speaker 1: You Land also Highlander.

1066
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,280
Speaker 2: Also, I did not love Holland too.

1067
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: Greg Wyden said that there was a period in the

1068
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,679
early nineties that he had to change his name to Hi,

1069
00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:08,199
I'm Greg Wyden. No, I didn't write Highland or two.

1070
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: That's awesome. So anyway, Highlander's great, and I love it

1071
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:17,280
for what it is. It's just Flash Gordon to me,

1072
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,920
It's it's almost the perfect movie.

1073
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: It's so fun.

1074
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: It's absolute full throttle of fun. By the way, by

1075
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,880
the way, according to Brian Blessed, the Queen of England's

1076
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,639
favorite movie is Flash. Gordon heard.

1077
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: He met her. He met the Queen of England and

1078
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,840
she's like, Oh, we love your movie The House. We

1079
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,920
watch it all the time. Could you please say Gordon's line,

1080
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:49,960
Gordon's line, Oh, thank you so much, Gordon's line.

1081
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: Let's hear from you. Guys. Where are you on this?

1082
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 2: Is it Flash Gordon or is it Highlander? Here we are,

1083
00:56:57,039 --> 00:56:59,679
Princess of the universe. We are the one, the only one.

1084
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:02,199
We are the Gods of Kingdom. Come all right, guys,

1085
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000
come back next week. We're gonna dive into dumb and

1086
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:07,719
Dumber versus something about Mary that's gonna.

1087
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: Be d Why not?

1088
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 3: Why not?

1089
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:12,119
Speaker 1: God