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Speaker 1: Wait, what did you say?

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Speaker 2: I said, shut up, Craig, what's up? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to It just means more football and coffee.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rob Williams. He is craigmate Michael.

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Speaker 2: You can find Yards and Stripes. I would encourage you

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Speaker 3: If you're able to catch the Navy Army game. I'll

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say it that way at on Saturday. Go back and

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listen back to those guys on Yards and Stripes. If

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you're into schools that are in Florida, you have Florida

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Get off my Pylon which covers West Coast teams, and

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of course right here, as always, you have the greatest

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conference in all of the culture, all the sec where it

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just means more and for us it just means more

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football and it just means more coffee. But you know what,

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we've moved, We've shifted, baby, We like to keep it loose.

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We like to create that diner vibe. But it's a

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nine pm kick tonight for us. So I got a

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little eggnog in my cup vanilla spice to be specifics up, Craig,

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what you're sipping on?

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Speaker 1: I have an Ice Mountain spring water and a Haul's

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cough drop because we're a little cold going right now.

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So it's just.

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Speaker 2: The Ice Mountain spring water.

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Speaker 3: He's drinking out of one of ths Like I know

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you guys can't see us, but it's one of those

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like stippy bottles, so if you hear him popping or

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Speaker 1: So that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we are excited tonight because we have Mike from

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the five Foot Nothing Pod with us representing Notre Dame

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tonight because we are talking to playoff. You can find

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him at five foot Nothing Pod on X that's the

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number five and then spell but Nothing Pod, so you

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can check him out there. We'll get into his show

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and everything that he's covering in just a little bit.

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But how's it going, Mike? What's going on tonight?

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Speaker 4: Great?

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Speaker 5: Enjoying the sights of Lake Havascou. If I know we're

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not a travel podcast. I'm not, you're not, but if

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you do have the opportunity to travel to Lake Havascoe,

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I highly recommend it. Luckily I had a passenger with

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me because I would have wrecked trying to take pictures

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of all the million dollars views, so it made my

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wife be on camera duty. But I'm doing great, man.

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I have my rolling rock, cheers, two sippy cup of water.

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Speaker 1: Well speak, speaking of which, speaking of which, that we

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both could have a travel Poduh. We had a guy

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come on Twitter tonight, section eight Rose seventy to seventy one.

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He's got four tickets for Texas Clemson in Austin, two

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hundred and fifty bucks. So I made my appeal on

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the Twitter or x as the cool kids call it,

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last word grid Iron Coast to coast, highly ask your

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boys hook us up.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're ready to go. We're ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Mike, you join us your games Friday night. You can

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come and joy Joyce Saturday after dealing with us.

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Speaker 5: And my hometown is Corpus Christi, which is roughly three

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Speaker 4: From Austin, so it's not it's not a crazy drive.

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Speaker 1: No, that's right, been there.

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Speaker 3: I want to throw this out there really quick and

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kind of get us started. We're going to look at

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all these games, and I want to start with Indiana

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and Notre Dame, especially because Mike is here.

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Speaker 2: But before we get to.

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Speaker 1: That, I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't blow past this because transfer portal is just

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going nuts right now, as we kind of expected it to.

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And Penn State backup quarterback Bo Privula is in the

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portal and the statement released from Matt Zennitz less than

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an hour ago, so this is pretty this is breaking news.

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The statement from Pribula says this, the current NCAA postseason

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model creates a challenge for student athletes. The overlapping college

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football playoff and transfer portal timeline has forced me into

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an impossible decision.

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Speaker 2: His team is playing.

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Speaker 3: He has played a role this year when aler has

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been hurt, and he's been able to come in and

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spell them and get them through. And now he's in

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a situation where he understands that in order for him

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to see the field and maximize his value, he needs

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to get into the portal. But the but the window.

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that he can go ahead and talk to teams. I

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know there's a five day window to get into the

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portal after your team loses if you're in the playoff,

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So what for him? Okay, don't get ahead of yourself.

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The picks are going to be at the end of

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the show. So you saved that surprise for everybody else

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with your with your pony hoodie on right now. Is

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there a solution here that anybody has off the top

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of their head to really solve this problem, because I

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do see the problem. This is a Pennsylvania kid that's

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got his playing for Penses's dream opportunity, and he's in

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Speaker 1: The dream opportunity. If you're leaving, I mean, it's me before,

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it's it's me before we And let's be honest that

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the kid was worth his salt. He would have no

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problem running out the playoff and then using his five

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day window and then leveraging that. Yeah, okay, I get

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classes start in January. But if you're good enough, we've

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seen this time and again. I mean, look at Caleb Downs.

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time but by the time it all went down, Georgia

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had already started classes. Ohino State already started classes and

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he had no problem getting going.

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Speaker 4: My thing about it is, well, what real quick?

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Speaker 1: To me?

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Speaker 4: That says Aler.

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Speaker 1: Staying like, yeah, yeah it does like that says that right,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to make accusations.

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Speaker 5: But having been through the Sam Hartman Roley Leonard thing,

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there's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: In my mind there's communication happening.

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Speaker 1: No, not a, Notredain, not nore Dame.

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Speaker 5: But I'm just in general, in general, there's communication happening

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that I don't think having to wait till Penn State

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is ultimately knocked out next weekend that they has to

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uh then make a decision like that five day window

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I think is fine. Right, I understand what he's saying,

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but there's again Norman assumptions. But to me, that says,

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I don't have a place to go because nobody's reaching

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out to me.

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Speaker 4: Because dude, Sam.

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Speaker 5: Hartman was coming to Ordain before anything was ever said

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by Leonard, was coming to Urdame before anything was said.

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Cam Warden was going to Miami for everything, like whether

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it's legal or not, there is communication that is getting loopholed.

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And if probella is right, probella is that you say

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it I don't.

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Speaker 1: Have a media guy in front of me for not

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gonna pronounce his name correctly.

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Speaker 5: But it it to me that says like, Okay, well,

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you're not having conversations that some of these other dudes

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that have transferred or having because they were able to

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play out their season regards to when it ended, it

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still went to where yeah, feels like a one off,

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Speaker 1: Set it up.

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Speaker 2: They've set it up for it to work. They've set

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it up print to work.

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Speaker 3: And I think that you're right when you say nobody's

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reach out to me, so I need to get into

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the portal so that I can make some moves before

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everybody's full, and then they'll have a landing spot. I

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think that's the situation here.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Oklahoma's still open, but Oklahoma is still Oklahoma is

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taking anyone who will show up. I mean they might

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take the three of us. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you want to talk about that really quick while

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oklahoma has like seventeen players in the portal. If

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we go to take a look at it, they have

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right now, it sounds like a Christmas list. Two quarterbacks,

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two running back, six wide receivers, a tie it end

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and two off into a line.

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Speaker 3: Man, Wow, wow, it's good. Last week with the crying,

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this week with the singing, it's going to be an ego.

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Speaker 1: We're done with you. Yeah, but it's like, I mean,

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you know, whether it's this Penn State kid, but like

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you know, like this is the big thing of Oklahoma. Oh,

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give Brent more time. He got a next time.

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Speaker 3: I said that, let's be clear that those shots are

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at me when you said, when you're making these sarcastic tones.

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Speaker 1: There are shots at you, but they are also shots

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at other friends of ours. But at the end of

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the day he talks about how Seth Lachelle was the

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problem and he fired him. Then he gets the kid

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from Washington State to come in. But again, all these

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guys are leaving, and like this is now the second

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year in a row you have Brent Vennerables. Everybody's leaving,

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very few are coming in. At what point can we

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understand Brent Venerables probably isn't a head coach, is it?

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Speaker 2: The defense needs to.

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Speaker 1: Start probably passing the heck because it's not working. And

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the question is does he have enough to pass around

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the heat because maybe they're on il is not working

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either well.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna give it another They're gonna give

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it another year at this point, which I'm totally fine

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with because we get them in the game, Cops get

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them in Columbia next year.

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Speaker 2: So I'll take they.

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Speaker 4: Just beat them with twenty four to three, careful to

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wish for it.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but we have them twenty one five minutes

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into the game. So I think it's the I think

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that his defense is really good and it's gonna be

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good because the scheme is good. He's always been good.

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He's and and he kind of the more the more

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players that he gets, the better that's going to improve.

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That was the major hump coming into the SEC. Could

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they get the defense over because for what a couple

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of decades, Oklahoma has been scoring one hundred points a

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game and uh, maybe having trouble stopping people. That was

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what the Lincoln Riley Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: That was the issue.

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Speaker 3: They would get to the playoff, they couldn't stop anybody,

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and they get into a shootout and YadA YadA. But

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now it's kind of the tables have turn. It's split

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Speaker 5: Yeah, weren't they the team that lost fifty four to

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forty eight in the playoffs to Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Georgia, they were up. They were up like fourteen

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or seventeen. I know, I remember, and now there.

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Speaker 5: Now, now, if they would score forty eight points, holy crap.

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Speaker 1: They have to take six games to do that.

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Speaker 3: Now, maybe a top five they'd be a top five team, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, blame Seth the troll. It's all Seth, the

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Trell's fault.

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Speaker 3: It's not Seth, the Trull's fault. Seth, the troll is

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not a fit. Never nevertheless, we digress. All right, let's.

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Speaker 1: Diate Oklahoma, it's a fit.

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Speaker 3: Trust in Indiana at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is a

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seven and a half point favorite. This is Friday night,

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eight pm on ABC. Mike, Let's start out with this.

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Here's my question. How do Notre Dame fans view the Hoosiers?

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Is this because this is not feel like there's no

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rivalry here. I mean, it's in state. You haven't played

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since ninety one. I did the research. You've played seven

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times nineteen fifty. Home teams won all seven. So that's

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six and one another day in Indiana's last one was

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in nineteen fifty in Bloomington. So this game is obviously

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in South Bend. What's the viewpoint here?

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Speaker 5: I mean, so in Indiana it's Notre Dame, then it's

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Purdue in Indiana and whoever.

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Speaker 1: Like Indiana's sleet?

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Speaker 4: What's that?

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Speaker 1: Indiana state?

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Speaker 5: The Sycamores, you got, ball state, you got. But it's

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just their little brother, right And what gets me, And

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granted a lot of this has to do with Twitter

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x whatever. I didn't know Indiana football had as many

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fans as they do, and some of them don't like

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being told, which I know this for a fact. They're

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Indiana basketball fans in the spring and they're absolutely no

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day football fans in the fall. That's the reality. And

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I say that because I spent a couple of years

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at Franklin College, Indiana, playing my own B three football,

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which is just south of Indianapolis. A lot of dudes

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there are from that area, and IU basketball and not

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day football are a.

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Speaker 4: Thing that are in the same person. So I don't

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I think they're all of a sudden like, Okay, Indiana's good.

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Speaker 5: We don't view them as a threat. It's that we

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don't view them as a threat. I don't view them

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as a threat this year?

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Speaker 1: What about this year? Like so like, I think if

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we look historically, Indiana wasn't a threat. Twenty twenty times

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all in Indiana is a threat. But what Signette's doing

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and you know he lost, he lost my fourteen to

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Ohio State. They're only beat Michigan.

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Speaker 4: They lost the fourteen Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and you're gonna get the people are all that

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the drop punt and then Caleb Downs returned the punt.

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That was special teams right if you take they had

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two touchdown drives that totaled. I think it was I'm

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trying to do the match. It was something like one

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hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty yards of offense

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and two touchdown drives.

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Speaker 4: They had one hundred and fifty one for the game.

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I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: Like we lost to Oha State by fourteen, looks great,

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but then when you dive into the numbers, it's just

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it's no impressive. You had two good drives, that's great.

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If you have two good drives against Notre Dame, cool,

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that's not gonna win you the football game. So have

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your two good drives. Fact, even against the lesser teams,

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Notre Dame has given up one significant drive in terms

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of yardage and points. In almost every game, a lot

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of them end up in a field goal, but they

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put together a sixty seventy yard drive. So go ahead, Indiana,

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go do it, but you're not gonna be able to

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do it enough consistently against al Golden no names defense,

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And I do think Notre Dame's rush offense is real

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and Indiana they're gonna prop up their rushing defense. But

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I did the math. I no math is not allowed,

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but I'm gonna do it. They have yet to play

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a team ranked higher than fifty five in rush offense,

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and that was Ohio State of their eleven fbs ponents.

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Because they did play one FCS. Of their eleven fbsponents,

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the seven of them ranked one hundred or worse worse

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in rush offense.

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Speaker 4: The average rank for all the teams is one hundred

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and first.

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Speaker 5: So to think that their rush defense is gonna shut

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down Notre Dame, which is a think. They're ranked eighth

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in the country in rushing guards per game. Like something's

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got to give, you know that, Well, they're rush defense,

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good name, rush offense.

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Speaker 4: Good, something's got to give.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to the team that has more talent

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and has been productive all season. And you can knock

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Louisville or USC or all these other teams, but I

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think guard Name's opponent have A and M have been

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a little more challenging and R name has succeeded.

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Speaker 1: What was that thing in like? So what as you

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look back at that USC game? That was that first

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test really where Notre Dame really had to kind of

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like got one out kind of and and go and

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match scores? Was that playing in the West coast? You know,

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did you do you have a censor? Is there anything

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there that Signetti Indiana could look at and say maybe

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we can replicate something like that that?

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Speaker 5: So here's the thing the I say, yes, the path

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offense potentially, but if again you look at the numbers

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USC got all the they turn into sixty yards passing touchdowns,

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thirty five points.

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Speaker 4: Looks great.

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Speaker 5: They threw the ball forty nine times, and if you're USC,

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just based on talent and everything, if you're throwing the

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ball forty nine times, you better be thrown for three to.

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Speaker 4: Fifty plus and scoring points and et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Right, I still think from an efficiency standpoint yards per

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attempt standpoint, I don't think USC did anything that's over

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the top. Now, Indiana is efficient in the past game.

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They do get a lot of yards per attempts. They

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can exploit that, but they're gonna have to really really

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be efficient because again, I don't see Indiana's style of

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play leading to forty nine passteps to get those numbers.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think that that's kind of be

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like the interesting part, right, because this is probably even

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more than the SMU Penn State game, which we'll get

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to next. And I don't want to jump the agenda

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because unrav will get all angry, But like, to me,

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this is that David Goliath game, right, And I love

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that It's Friday night. By the way, here's a stat

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for you, Mike. This is the first Friday night game

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in South Bend since November thirtieth, nineteen hundred, when the

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down the Chicago Physicians and surgeons. Chicago physicians insurgeons five

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nothing shy.

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Speaker 4: We dissected them right.

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Speaker 1: Right, you dissected. I like that. I like that, so, like,

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you know, I think that's gonna be interesting. Part is,

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to me, the first ten minutes are going to tell

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the game. Does does ND come out slow? Does Indiana

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out the hair on fire or do they come out

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does Indiana come out tight and they're roll over them?

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Speaker 5: Well, here's where Indiana, like I said, go back to

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the passing game. That's where they're gonna potentially have an advantage.

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Here's the problem. Do you know the expected weather forecast

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for Friday and Suthen there's currently a fifty five percent

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chance of snow. Now, I'm not saying just bet that

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negates any pass game, but it certainly doesn't help past game.

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What it doesn't really hurt overall is a run game,

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and I think that's that's what's gonna sway it towards

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Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for I think for me, it's like

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on paper, you have two pretty good defenses. Again, I

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would call him the question the schedules and like, who's

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who's been played to create these great defenses? I agree

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the kind of the two things that I'm watching are

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the quarterbacks. To be honest, you know, can Roddy Lennard

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be a true dual threat? Is he gonna threaten with

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his legs and his arm? And the weather is definitely

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gonna play a factor in that. Like you said, I

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think it's great that we're gonna get a playoff. We're

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getting weather in the playoffs, whether it's just cold weather

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or we get the snow whatever.

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Speaker 1: Hang, and you were telling me earlier this week that

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it was like twenty five degrees in South Carolina. So

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can we stop this narrative that it's like only cold

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in the north.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to cut you off, but so

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I on my show, I was breaking down the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: You know who's hosting, and all this talk about.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, all these southern teams, Yes, teams, you gotta

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come up north.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna devastate them. And da da da, dada da da.

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Speaker 5: If you go through the matchups, the only one that's

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even questionable in terms of uh oh is maybe the

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shirt you're wearing an SMU. But even then I was

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I was in Dallas for a New Year's just at

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one point it was snowing.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I was up in Dallas last year first week of February.

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Speaker 5: We got iced in. We had to stay at the

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hotel two days longer for a work event. So the

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idea that SMU is, like, what are we gonna do,

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It's like, well, they Dallas gets weather Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: And let's be honest, does Freemen have them in are

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a lot of this weekend. They're probably practicing indoors in Urlata.

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They're probably not outside for the most part. They're getting

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most of their work done indoors.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, because.

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Speaker 5: Riley, Leonard, Freeman, and Xavier Watts got interviewed to have

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time of the Notre Dame women's basketball in Nordame, Connecticut,

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and Leonard said, uh, we should be ready by Friday

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because coach already said we got.

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Speaker 4: To be ready for the cold.

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Speaker 5: He made he made a little comment that I don't

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know that they'll be there all right.

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Speaker 3: I necessarily think that it's said, you know, these these

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Southern teams are going to come up and it's going

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to devastate them. I just like the fact that we're

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going to have weather be a factor because we've never

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really had that, because you're going to because you're going

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because you've had you've had the Dome games or the

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extremely Southern games where you know you're in Arizona or

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California or Miami or whatever, where you're going to have

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pretty decent weather for the most part.

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Speaker 2: So I do think it's nice that we're going to

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get some cold weather at.

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Speaker 3: Least, because that feels a little more like like football

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for sure. All that aside, like I said, I think

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it's Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 2: Can he be efficient in both in both dynamics?

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Speaker 3: And then on the flip side, what does Rourton do

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versus Notre Dame the secondary? And I will be the

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first to raise my hand and say that I'm not

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going to shy away from the fact that I've said

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previously on the show that I think No Name secondary

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is a little overrated. I do think they're good. I

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don't think they're as good. I don't think they're as

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good as maybe the hype around them is. And so

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that I'm interested that we'll get to picks. We'll get

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to picks in a minute, but I'm interested to see

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what Rory can do. And I agree with Craig that

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early in the game makes a difference because I think that, like,

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we're in the playoffs at this point, so we don't

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know what to expect because the first tell team playoff

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that we've ever had. But if we know football at all,

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we know that momentum is going to play a factor.

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And it's a road game for Indiana. Can they come

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in and kind of stun the crowd to get off

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to a quick start.

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Speaker 1: I think that.

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Speaker 3: Happens in the passing game for them. If if there's

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a path to victory there, that's what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: That's what it is.

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Speaker 5: So I want to address the Riley leonard Le dual

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thread and Rory, but real quick, I don't like to

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call out hosts.

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Speaker 4: You invited me on I'm grateful.

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Speaker 1: No, you can call them out. It's okay. I invited you.

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I invited you.

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Speaker 5: I find it funny that you're like, you know, Notre

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Dame's secondary a little overrated?

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Speaker 4: USC? Did they did that? And and I love.

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Speaker 5: That you This is like I can't quote your verbatim,

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but it was like Notre Dames secondary a little overrated

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against USC.

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Speaker 4: It was just those two picks sixes that really that

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made the difference. You do realize how.

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Speaker 1: What two pick six Yeah.

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Speaker 4: There were, well, but I'm just saying, like, you can't

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say Nor Dames secondary is overrated and then in the

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next breath talk about pick sixes like it's you.

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Speaker 2: See how those don't That's.

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Speaker 1: The way.

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Speaker 3: That How long has it been since No Dame has

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had a pick station. You get two in one game.

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It's kind of like, you know, there there is a

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little bit of there's a little bit of luck in

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there somewhere for them to be both pick sixes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not both picks. I'll give you two picks.

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Speaker 1: Oh how the tables have turned?

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Speaker 3: Who's yards of return? Return yards on two picks? Is

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is obnoxious? And that just speaks to the lack of

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physicality of the Trojans. And I don't have a dog

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in that fight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, but Notreme has a lot of interceptions

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on the year I do.

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Speaker 1: I think they're really good.

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Speaker 2: I think they're really good. I'm just not calling them

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like the elite of the elite.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, so uh, I do want to talk

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to Leonard Wurk thing. But no, you're right the defensive statistics. Uh.

477
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I'll be the first to.

478
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,079
Speaker 5: Admit, I know Craig and eyes interaction isn't as far

479
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,359
back as some other people. But if you get like

480
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,519
Casey on here, one of the reasons me and Casey

481
00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:41,559
clicked and made friends so quickly is I try to

482
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be as objective as possible.

483
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, still where the shan rock glasses?

484
00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:50,599
Speaker 5: But like I'll admit Notre Dames Indiana's schedule have led

485
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,480
to some of those stats that you're looking at like,

486
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:55,240
that's let's not be ignorant of that fact.

487
00:23:56,279 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: Ken Notre Dame claim an a SEC championship. No, because

488
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,000
the five teams are part time, it's okay. Now they

489
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,440
don't want to. They don't want to if they've made

490
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,079
anything clear.

491
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 2: So they will nothing to do with these conferences.

492
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: And the only way they're going to get in is

493
00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:15,319
when Sankie forces them too, because they create a super league.

494
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:16,799
Speaker 2: And they have to join something to get into the playoffs.

495
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 5: That's it, Rob and let until whoever the powers that

496
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:26,079
be are come in and say, Notre Dame unless you're

497
00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:28,160
in a conference, you can't be a part of this

498
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,799
at all. Until that happens, you're not going to see

499
00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:37,240
a change because there's there's no benefit. There's no benefit

500
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,160
And I've asked this and.

501
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: There's way too much money what's going on right now?

502
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:43,920
Why would you switch it up if you have the

503
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,240
whole NBC to yourself.

504
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 4: Well, and the funny thing is we don't even make

505
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,599
as much.

506
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 5: If the big ten of the SEC, Notre Dame doesn't

507
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,599
make as much that they take home. But here's the difference.

508
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,359
We decide where that money goes and what we do

509
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:56,720
with it.

510
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: There's the program, what's up the little cross program? Back

511
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,640
to back national champions that's where that money goes.

512
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:06,559
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying it can go anywhere we want.

513
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:11,079
Speaker 5: There's a lot of decision making that we don't have

514
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,680
to ask or refer to, or adhere to any other

515
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,480
outside influences or guidelines, et cetera. So that's that's the

516
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,079
benefit that I do find this funny. The coast to

517
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,880
coast schedule at Notre Dame has played for almost ever.

518
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,880
It feels like is being brought up, like why why

519
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,200
does the Big ten? Why does the ACC now have

520
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:33,519
to go from the East coast.

521
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:35,759
Speaker 4: To the west coast. That's not fair to the players,

522
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,960
like question, No. Dame's been doing it for years.

523
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,279
Speaker 1: They're not even buying an airport. They get it, like

524
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:44,200
what Chicago to fly out or any of that stuff.

525
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,279
Speaker 5: There's an airport in South Bend. I don't know that

526
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:48,759
you can get a chartered type.

527
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: Of That's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying,

528
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,240
like football team, can you get a football tea?

529
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: I don't think so I don't know the specifics on that, though.

530
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 5: I need to start following a plane do.

531
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: The plane tracker. Now, I'm I have to throw my

532
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:05,759
lacrosse love in there because I'm a big fan. I'm

533
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:07,720
a big fan of coach Corgan. Coach Corgan helped me

534
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:09,480
get get to the right spot when I came up

535
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,680
there for a clinic few years ago.

536
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 4: So I love it.

537
00:26:12,039 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 5: And if you see Jordan's face on Make a Play

538
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:16,720
on Friday Night, just know that he came to Notre

539
00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:17,920
Dame because of lacrosse.

540
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,759
Speaker 1: I know, his little brothers, his little brothers coming to

541
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:21,519
I know.

542
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:27,279
Speaker 5: Okay, we're cutting rob out, Okay, Robard.

543
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: Robert, are you okay, buddy? You know hug Wow, we're

544
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,680
really throwing it.

545
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,559
Speaker 3: We're really throwing it back at me this week after

546
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,240
we said that I was coming for last week. We're

547
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,680
gonna let Mike reply about his team that he came

548
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,400
on to talk about.

549
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 5: So Leonard is one of the in Notre Dame history

550
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,880
better dual threats we've seen. And I say that now

551
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,279
because in the beginning of the year we had a

552
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:50,599
lot of questions about his passing ability and he's come

553
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,680
around so and that lot might have to do with

554
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,640
new new team, new receivers and for Not Dame in general,

555
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,599
new coordinator with Den Rock, but.

556
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:02,559
Speaker 4: Leonard does not like to be tackled.

557
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:07,559
Speaker 5: And when you're talking about whether being a factor, potentially,

558
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,680
the fact that Leonard can do what he does with

559
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:16,200
his legs, Jeremiah Love exists. Jerim Price is a powerful

560
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,720
and break it at any point in time. In fact,

561
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,200
Jerian Price, I don't know how many touchdowns he's got.

562
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,519
I can't think of on my head, but his average

563
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,359
depth of touchdown run is thirty plus yards. It's crazy.

564
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,880
So when you combine Leonard's ability, Love and Price, that

565
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,440
really makes Leonard even more valuable because you can't just

566
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:42,119
assume and lock in on him like you can another

567
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,279
running potential quarterback like J Mill wrote with Alabama.

568
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,039
Speaker 4: He he was kind of a big running threat and

569
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:53,440
they made him just to be a running threat. And

570
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:54,240
that's it.

571
00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:58,039
Speaker 5: Leonard is the running threat, but so is Love. Legitimately,

572
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:02,519
so his Price, and he has ability to a little bit.

573
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,519
Isn't very mobile and you saw that against Ohio States.

574
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,039
That's the issue. Now Notre Dame is down on defensive

575
00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:15,319
lineman to one position. We lost two guys to the.

576
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,759
Speaker 4: Same injury, but season any knee injury.

577
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:25,079
Speaker 5: But if we can create any kind of pocket pressure, pocket,

578
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:31,240
you know, turbulence, I don't see Rourke overcoming that successfully.

579
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,720
Whereas with Leonard you can send the house and he's

580
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,680
gotten better and more efficient passing. But if you try

581
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,839
to drop back and you cover everybody, he's very capable

582
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:48,960
of picking up the yardage needed to sustain and drives absolutely.

583
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,759
Speaker 1: I love that inst My question is going to be like,

584
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:54,799
as we think about picking this game, Notre Dame is

585
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,119
seven and a half point favorite. If Notre Dame wins

586
00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:00,720
this one going away, and then as we start to

587
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,039
think about Penn State SMU the next day, if we

588
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:08,319
get a couple of blowouts, does that get the game?

589
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,400
Cock or my fellow co host the Rebels and miss

590
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,759
ill miss and Alabama starts saying, Indiana, maybe SMU didn't

591
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,000
you know, didn't deserve it. You know, you wonder about

592
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:20,519
about the narratives that come out.

593
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: You know, I think there's absolutely no doubt about it

594
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:23,200
that's gonna happen.

595
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:27,279
Speaker 1: Yep. So like, okay, so, so do you want to

596
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,039
do PI? Do you want to do anything else? Mister host?

597
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:29,559
I don't know.

598
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: I was gonna do it. I was gonna do them now.

599
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,880
By the way, Leonard has fourteen Russian touchdowns Love fifteen

600
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,039
Price seven to get your get your research out there.

601
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:40,759
Speaker 5: Of this seven, the average depth of those touchdown runs

602
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:42,920
is over thirty yards.

603
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: He's that guy. Now.

604
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:49,279
Speaker 5: Granted he'll he'll go one, two, three, two forty seven.

605
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: Pretty averages. He averages seven point three per carry in general.

606
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,359
Speaker 1: So and that's pretty.

607
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,039
Speaker 3: It's pretty good last time I checked.

608
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: No, it is.

609
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:07,279
Speaker 4: It's great. It's just he's absolutely he's more boom than bus.

610
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:11,519
Speaker 5: But he is your kind of prototypical boomer bus style

611
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,839
running back where Jeremiah Love Uh. While he has the

612
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,440
big boom capability, you can count on him to get

613
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,039
a make a two yard game of four and a

614
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:27,720
half yard game and just get those extra yards, like

615
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:30,160
if you have the opportunity, if you haven't watched here

616
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,680
name this year, I know everybody's gonna be watching Friday night.

617
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,880
Of course it's the only game on.

618
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:37,799
Speaker 4: It's nothing.

619
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: God, I told you that, Craig. When we started talking

620
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,880
about this, I was I was very efficient.

621
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:48,559
Speaker 1: Poke a little bit. I have to poke a little bit.

622
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,319
Speaker 5: Can I let me tell you a story about the

623
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:56,279
Peacock game this year, Right, So I went to Biloxi with.

624
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: Your boy, my boy, Casey.

625
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,839
Speaker 5: We're down there and you were gonna sit in the

626
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,039
sports book and just watch college football day. Of course,

627
00:31:05,079 --> 00:31:08,480
we placed bets whatever we got interest all over the board,

628
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,400
but we're gonna sit there and watch our teams play.

629
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,240
They they him and his other buddy of clebs and grads.

630
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:17,319
I'm a Notre Dame guy. Which the connection, by the way,

631
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,319
is my dad's a graduate.

632
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: I decided to I wanted to play Division three football

633
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:25,759
and I didn't quite get in. But don't tell me.

634
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,759
Don't tell me if Indiana fans that.

635
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:28,119
Speaker 1: No.

636
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: So We're sitting there in the sportsbook and I'm looking

637
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,799
on I'm like, okay, what I put on my phone?

638
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,000
I'm like, they're kicking off. Where the hell is the game?

639
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,680
So no one asked. They're like, well, I'm like, it's

640
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,279
on Peacock.

641
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 5: Oh, we only have one screen that can do streaming services, Like, okay,

642
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:49,680
we'll put it on. Like, oh, it's over there in

643
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:53,440
the middle of the casino. I'm like, you're kidding me.

644
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,200
So here's me just sitting in the middle of a

645
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,400
casino with no one around, and they projected it onto

646
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:06,400
a I don't even I'm gonna say, fifteen foot screen.

647
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,079
I felt like the dumbest person on the planet. I'm

648
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:12,640
just sitting there yelling at this gigantic screen by myself,

649
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,400
with nobody around me because that's the only screen that

650
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,359
had it, and your phone because my phone is so small.

651
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: But what game was box?

652
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:26,359
Speaker 1: I did the quad Box on my phone?

653
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,039
Speaker 5: No, I that's that's tough on the eyes. But I

654
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:35,519
will say about is the third quarter? I was I

655
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:38,039
just like, okay, I came to hang out my buddies

656
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,880
like this is so I just propped it up against

657
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,519
my beer and I washed.

658
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,279
Speaker 1: It that way. But is there any truth? Is there

659
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:48,079
any truth that is there? Is there any truth that

660
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,680
Casey may have paid the sports book to make you

661
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,640
go somewhere else in the bar so you didn't have

662
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,400
to sell them for a couple of hours.

663
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:59,119
Speaker 4: It was like doubt that I wouldn't doubt that.

664
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, all right, let's pick the game. Let's the

665
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,279
game are picking? Are we going with the spread? Or

666
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:06,440
we just? Yeah?

667
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,759
Speaker 2: Heck you ever going with the spread? The spread matters.

668
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,759
Speaker 1: Seven and a half points?

669
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,079
Speaker 3: I got not of name covers.

670
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: I have the great team from Indiana, the Golden Domors.

671
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think no name covers.

672
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,519
Speaker 3: I do. Wow, that was that was non competitive sight

673
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,400
straight across the.

674
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:36,319
Speaker 4: Board for for my health and my family who will

675
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:37,720
be in the room with me.

676
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: I did place the bet, but I only have no

677
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:44,119
dream to win, just because I don't need the stress

678
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,680
of a cover.

679
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, infiltrating my enjoyment of the game.

680
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get one of those pick sixes from that

681
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,200
average secondary. I did never average never came out of

682
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:55,599
my mouth.

683
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:59,799
Speaker 2: I said good, good, not elite, and this.

684
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: Is the enemy of great good, is the enemy of great.

685
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,039
Speaker 3: Rob Well, yeah, because I think that there are there

686
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,440
are other people who would call them elite, and I

687
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,920
call that overrated. All right, we have We have three

688
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,199
more games to cover, SMU at Penn State, Penn States

689
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:14,960
and the eight and a half point favorite twelve o'clock

690
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,840
Saturday on tn T. Get out of here, talk about Peacock.

691
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:20,760
When the heck do we put these things on tn T.

692
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,719
At least it's an ESPN crew, Okay, info for this one.

693
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,320
SMU is the fourth ranked rushing defense and the twentieth

694
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,440
ranked total offense.

695
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: We need to look at schedules for that one.

696
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,679
Speaker 3: As well, figure out who they've played to become the

697
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,039
fourth ranked rushing defense in the country. Penn State, on

698
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:38,280
the other hand, eight in points allowed and twenty fifth

699
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,119
in points scored. Looking at the opponents, I think on

700
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,400
both sides here muddies it up. Just to tad Penn

701
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,000
States face three ranked opponents this season. They're one and

702
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:52,880
two against those three opponents, and then smu IS only

703
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,719
faced one ranked opponent, and that would be Clemson. We

704
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,920
saw how that one needed with aint through the rights

705
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,239
zero and two. Are they still Are they still in there?

706
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm just.

707
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:09,199
Speaker 2: If they fell out.

708
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: According to the College of All Playoffs Slation Committee, they

709
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:18,559
do not count. Oh my goodness, evalue So I did

710
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:22,159
hear Josh Payton going this rant about like us evaluating

711
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,679
ranked wins versus non ranked wins because what if all

712
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,639
of the other teams you played, What if you played

713
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,519
eleven teams? This was his argument. What if you played

714
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:33,559
the teams that were like twenty six through what would.

715
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,119
Speaker 2: It be thirty thirty six?

716
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,519
Speaker 3: Okay, six through thirty six thirty seven and that was

717
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:42,800
your whole schedule, and then another team played teams.

718
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:46,559
Speaker 1: You'd be not name because they'd be the team because no, no, no, no.

719
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: But I'm saying you're the team that you were compared against,

720
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,719
played one top ten opponent and lost, and the other

721
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,519
ten games were like sixty through seventy streight ranked teams.

722
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,280
You see what I'm saying. Then then what we would

723
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,280
say is, well, this team played one ranked opponent and

724
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,920
this team played zero. Well they're the team that played

725
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,639
zero played much better competition overall. So it's it's really

726
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:11,719
muddy when you look at it that way. If you don't,

727
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,639
if you just look at the top twenty five, you

728
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:15,480
really have to look at where every team lines up,

729
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,159
where they stack up, the whole the whole thing.

730
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: That's a really muddy argument.

731
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: I get it.

732
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,599
Speaker 3: But like I'm just gonna make the statement that I

733
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,679
feel like, obviously Penn State schedule is weak. I mean,

734
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,719
SMU schedule is weak, and I don't think that Penn

735
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,760
States is the strongest, So the numbers are inflated. Is

736
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,920
kind of my argument here. I think the keys of

737
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,559
the game. I'll just kick it off and then toss

738
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:40,239
to you guys. You got Jennings, Kevin Jennings and Brishard

739
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,559
Smith are are it for SMU? So the quarterback is

740
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:48,639
playing really well, the running back is a machine? How

741
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:50,639
do they do against Penn State's defense? And then on

742
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,559
the flip side, what do we get outside of Tyler Warren?

743
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,239
But I think we know Tyler Warren's gonna get his touches?

744
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: Is that?

745
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: What else?

746
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: What else is there do we get the did we

747
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,000
get an all Drew Aller wild turnover and timed?

748
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: I think? I think, I think I think the game

749
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:11,840
hinges on Tyler Warren. Like to me, he's the biggest

750
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,960
playmaker out of the group.

751
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 4: Is pretty decent too. Though, is it Singletary?

752
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: It's Singleton, It's it's Singleton. But here's the deal. That

753
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,920
team replicates Shane's Franklin. Okay, they smashed the hell out

754
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,400
of Maryland.

755
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: Last buckle up here comes with me, Dame James Rant.

756
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: So they smashed the hell out of Maryland like the

757
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,039
last two weeks ago.

758
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, but like wow, Maryland, I know, but like.

759
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't like September like like like Maryland's

760
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,920
good September and October August and like November that they're

761
00:37:52,960 --> 00:38:00,960
they're they're awful. I just don't trust Franklin like he's whiny.

762
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:04,199
Speaker 2: The it's not a reason not to trust him. Must

763
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:05,000
talk about on the field.

764
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: I am that. This is why though you're getting to it.

765
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:15,119
Twenty six, twenty five whatever that score was against Minnesota.

766
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,119
Minnesota was not good.

767
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: And we called that.

768
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,199
Speaker 3: We did called that, right, he did, but I said

769
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Minnesota would beat them.

770
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,039
Speaker 1: And we were disclosed. But like even earlier this year,

771
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,559
wasn't like Bowling Green up like twenty one to three

772
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,840
on thing st.

773
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, well so it's like but Bowling Green was investing

774
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:35,280
with them.

775
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:37,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's always it was only it's only a

776
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,760
touchdown game. They won the game thirty four to twenty seven.

777
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: I know, but but like I think that's that's the thing,

778
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,920
is like the best.

779
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:47,079
Speaker 5: City team you wanted to talk about with Notre Dame

780
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,239
USC had three point the Penn State they.

781
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,199
Speaker 4: They crept down their leg and they let Penn State

782
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:55,760
back in it.

783
00:38:56,199 --> 00:39:02,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's my my thing, Like mm hmm, Penn

784
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:06,199
State has they're the they're the Miami of the Big Ten.

785
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,559
Speaker 4: They keep playing with fire.

786
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,119
Speaker 5: They just haven't quite gotten burned yet.

787
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: They raised it was loose to Oregon last week, right,

788
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:14,760
But I.

789
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: Think what they do, Like I think, I think it's

790
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,119
fair to say Penn State will play to their competition whatever,

791
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,760
like like outside of that that that Maryland a couple

792
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:30,559
of weeks ago, Sure they played pretty even Ohio State. Yea,

793
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,199
they needed the other one that sticks out? But what

794
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:34,840
was your.

795
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: Favorite offensive touchdown from Penn State in the high State game?

796
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

797
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: That's funny, that's funny.

798
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: But do you know how do you? I just like

799
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,159
this is but this is the problem. They're up ten

800
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,880
nothing in that game, and like this is that? This

801
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,719
is why, Like this is my rant against Franklin and

802
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:05,840
it's not new, But what has the team and what

803
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,079
has James actually done to inspire confidence that at noon

804
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:17,000
on Saturday it will be any different and that this

805
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:19,880
game will not come down to the very end? They

806
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,360
very very well. They win, They've got a nice line up,

807
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,320
they go and then they go Boise or is it

808
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:34,559
Arizona State? It's yeah, yeah, but that's like a nice

809
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:40,320
path to the Summis. Yeah, that's that's a path. How

810
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,480
do they land that? Look? But sometimes you're born on

811
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:46,760
third base, Like many coaches in the Big Ten.

812
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 3: I think it's time for I was wrong as as

813
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,760
we flip every and talk about s m U. Craig

814
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,639
and I had an episode I don't even remember when

815
00:40:56,639 --> 00:40:59,679
this was in the summer in the spring where we

816
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:05,079
viewed we previewed the potential of a super league when

817
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,559
the rumors really started to swirl and we started to

818
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:11,000
realize that, you know, this isn't happening immediately. At some

819
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:17,760
point or another, this NFL style Big ten SEC super league.

820
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:18,639
Speaker 2: Thing is going to happen.

821
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 3: And so we we said, what what teams would it

822
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,239
look like?

823
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,119
Speaker 1: What teams would it.

824
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:26,559
Speaker 3: Take if we were to cut it down to sixty

825
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:32,559
four total teams and they do sixty team quarters that

826
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,960
would lead up to the final, Or what would it

827
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:36,400
like if we cut it all the way down to

828
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,559
forty eight and we had two twenty fourteen conferences that

829
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:41,400
would that would face off in the College for All

830
00:41:41,519 --> 00:41:44,199
Super Bowl. What would that be Well to get down

831
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,320
to the sixty eight, we did an initial round of cuts,

832
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,840
and then we did a second round of cuts to

833
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,440
get to forty eight. The first team that I cut,

834
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,920
the very first team that I cut to get to

835
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,719
sixty four SMU And so here we are and it's

836
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,119
playoff time and their only loss of the year is

837
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:07,960
off of a miracle joinked in field golf by the

838
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:11,840
kicker at Clemson, and so I have to admit, I

839
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,559
have to admit.

840
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: That I was wrong.

841
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,039
Speaker 3: And you know they they paid their own way. They

842
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:19,519
rett lastly did well in the portal. They benefit, they

843
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:27,239
benefited from what resembled their previous G five schedule in

844
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,199
terms of in terms of difficulty. And and here we

845
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,840
are right like they there they are one. They're one

846
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,079
loss team. They lost out in the championship game, and

847
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:40,280
so they clearly don't need to be cut when and

848
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:46,639
if this happens. However, I have no confidence in them

849
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,400
on Saturday or Friday night, Saturday noon.

850
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: Last last Saturday, though, does show why you shouldn't have confidence,

851
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,480
because again Clemson raced out to a big lead.

852
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,039
Speaker 3: This is this game for me. As much as you

853
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,039
have talked about Penn State, and as much as you

854
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:04,119
don't like Franklin, as much as we call the mid

855
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:06,679
game James and all the things, this game has nothing

856
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,400
to do with Penn State, much like next week's game

857
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,840
we'll have nothing to do with Penn State.

858
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: Has everything to do with their opponents.

859
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,639
Speaker 3: This game, I think they have enough and enough toughness

860
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,719
on the roster to roll.

861
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:23,079
Speaker 1: Through to the This game is what brings RUT last

862
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:28,199
year back to the SEC next year, next year is crazy, Craig,

863
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,199
if not this year.

864
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: So Robert, you call the Penn State to win and

865
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:35,599
cover the eight and half or just win with what?

866
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: Okay?

867
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's go there. Thanks for us on track,

868
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:41,440
but thank you for keeping us on track.

869
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: I think SMU.

870
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: Covers, Okay, so do I?

871
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: I think I think they cover, but I don't see

872
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,519
them winning the game.

873
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 4: I can see SMU winning.

874
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:58,079
Speaker 5: But if again, if you're at a sportsbook, what do

875
00:43:58,119 --> 00:43:59,960
you put I'll put my money on SMU to cover.

876
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,239
I don't know if they'll they'll win. I think it's

877
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,840
a real possibility. I just you know, I'm too familiar

878
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,119
with what James Franklin does without being a Penn State fan,

879
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,000
because I went through years.

880
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: Of Brian Kelly and they are they are the same person.

881
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 5: And what you were alluding to, Craig, was like James

882
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,719
Franklin had his team up against a team like Ohio State,

883
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:32,360
and then yes, like where where is that motivating aggression?

884
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:35,960
Like let's end this game pedal to the metal, Like

885
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:39,920
it's you see it over and over again, and LSU

886
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:45,719
is now enjoying those wonderful uh tendencies, So thank thank.

887
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 4: You for that.

888
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 5: But yes, the Penn State lack of let's get done

889
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,840
because get it done just it's very mid mid mid,

890
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,360
very mid. So I could absolutely see FMU winning this game.

891
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,239
But for purposes of what we're doing, SMU plus eight

892
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,280
and a half all the livelong day.

893
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,199
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not even taking SMU to cover.

894
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,400
You always have to watch that twelve five matchup in

895
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,199
the in the NCAA tournament. Now you have to watch

896
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,000
eleven five holding up man, we're going on to round two.

897
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,880
You're crazy preview of I was wrong right there versus Broncos.

898
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:35,599
Speaker 3: Let's go Clemson at Texas. Texas is minus eleven Saturday

899
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:39,440
at four pm on TNT. You're you're an info. Here

900
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,199
is that club. Nick's going home. He's from Westlake High

901
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:44,880
School in Austin, so I think he's pretty excited about that.

902
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,159
Had some conversations this week with some clebs, some people

903
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:50,000
watching the video. One of them was like, look at him,

904
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,880
he's so excited that he gets to go home. The

905
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,239
other one said, look at him, he knows the camera's

906
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,519
on and he's scared to death, and so he's just

907
00:45:56,559 --> 00:45:59,280
making that face, all right, So we really don't know

908
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,480
how you feeling. You have former Clemson safety Andrew Maccooba

909
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:04,800
who starts at Texas. That's another connection in the game.

910
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,280
I think the thing that's that jumps off to me

911
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,320
here is that Dabbo gets a chance to legitimately play

912
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,920
the little old Clemson card that he hasn't had a

913
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,280
legitimate chance to play in a little in a while.

914
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:20,360
He built his name off of that card, and then

915
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,239
when they were actually elite, he was still playing that

916
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,960
tiny violin. Oh, it's just little a Clemson and here

917
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,360
we are and nobody believes in us, and that was

918
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,360
crap the whole everybody believed in them. Everybody knew that

919
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,920
they could win. Everybody knew that it was at the

920
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,639
highest level. He's definitely playing it now. He's getting the

921
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:40,559
boys motivated with that stuff right now. So I think

922
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:42,599
that I think that that's going to be a factor.

923
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:45,960
I think Texas's quarterback situation is huge here. We taught

924
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,800
this to death, but Arch needs a package. Okay, I've

925
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,960
fully flipped because of the matchup.

926
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not wrong. I was not wrong.

927
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,079
Speaker 3: It is still it is still Quinn's team.

928
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,679
Speaker 1: It is still Quinn's team from a matchup, they wouldn't

929
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:07,559
need a package for Arch. It's the matchup.

930
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: Craig.

931
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying that it's his team in terms of his leadership,

932
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,519
and that's why I started. Doesn't fool him, That's what

933
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:14,480
he keeps saying.

934
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:15,119
Speaker 2: That's what.

935
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: Four million dollars. Michigan State's going to pay yours four

936
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:22,400
million dollars not to go to the draft and come

937
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:29,440
to all So here's the deal, Rob and Quinn's team.

938
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:31,519
Speaker 3: But they need a package for Arch because Cson can't

939
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:33,440
handle a running quarterback and now will be a nightmare.

940
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,519
Speaker 1: Now listen, listen, Sarky has got it all drawn up,

941
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,800
spent on the grease board. DA was gonna wish that

942
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:50,480
Brent wasn't screwing up the portal out in Norman with

943
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:57,000
the portal. Texas is going to hammer Clemson, Texas. I

944
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,920
will repeat it again, is going to hammer from give

945
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:01,400
us a score?

946
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: Didiction it says you're so confident?

947
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,639
Speaker 4: Yeah?

948
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: Thirty one to ten? All right? Sorry case?

949
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see how he let him score a touchdown,

950
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,639
So it wasn't as bad as the Georgia score right thirty.

951
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: One ten like, because what is what? What is Clemson's

952
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:25,840
record against the SEC this year? And two? And before

953
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,920
you start crying about Texas's schedule, mister host, all I

954
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,960
have to do is I have to look at the

955
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,800
college football or the I'm sorry, the SEC championship game

956
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:40,400
last week to see that Texas is legit. They played well.

957
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,719
I picked Texas to win the SEC Championship game.

958
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,039
Speaker 3: Craig, I understand they're legit. You don't have to convince me.

959
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:48,159
Speaker 1: No, but you were crying about and play anybody, but.

960
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,199
Speaker 4: Didn't play anybody.

961
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: South Carolina needs to be in there.

962
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:53,599
Speaker 3: And you know I said that Georgia. I said that

963
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:56,280
georgia schedule is the hardest schedule. I said that we

964
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,519
should have been Georgia for having the most competition on

965
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:03,119
their schedule and making and making it through with the

966
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:03,920
record that they did.

967
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:08,599
Speaker 1: Continue. But at the end of the day, Texas. The

968
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:12,239
reason I feel ten points is fair. Quinn is probably

969
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,960
going to throw an interception because he just is liable

970
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,719
to turn the ball over in an opportune times.

971
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: Well, both of these teams are top ten in creating

972
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,440
in creating turnovers, so I think that that is that's

973
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,159
cliche to say turnovers are a major key in a game,

974
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:28,159
But when you have two defenses that are top ten

975
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:29,880
in the country over the course of the year and

976
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,239
creating turnovers, then I think it's something that we need

977
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,239
to pay extra close attention to because that can really

978
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,519
swing momentum and cause the game to either blow out

979
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,679
or stay stay tight towards the end.

980
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:45,079
Speaker 1: But through the first half. Yeah, but again, I think

981
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,239
your key is to liquid with Texas did even a

982
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,079
couple of weeks ago down in College Station. They just

983
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:56,639
basically smothered and and strangled that Texas an and offense.

984
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,440
I think they did the same thing as clumpson. That's

985
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,400
why I think it's better receivers. I think has better receivers.

986
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,480
And that's the other thing that I have club that. Well,

987
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:08,480
he looked great against task Calne a couple of weeks ago.

988
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,679
He played really really well. But the thing that made.

989
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:14,599
Speaker 3: Yeah right, But the thing that made him look good

990
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,960
was that his receivers bawled out and when he threw

991
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,360
them fifty to fifty balls, they they they made They

992
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,159
made plays in impossible situations. There was one there was

993
00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:28,559
one play in the beginning of the game where he's

994
00:50:28,599 --> 00:50:32,039
the I think it was Westcoat absolutely blanketed and the

995
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:35,679
defender swipes the ball away and it just spell off

996
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,800
of the defender's hand perfectly where he was able.

997
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a great play by the receiver.

998
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,559
Speaker 3: But you don't get that all the time, you know

999
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:42,079
what I'm saying.

1000
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: So you're in the state.

1001
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: Of Texas, Mike, you tell us, uh, did the Longhorns

1002
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,079
get it done to the tune of eleven points?

1003
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 5: I I don't think they win by eleven.

1004
00:50:56,639 --> 00:50:58,639
Speaker 1: He wants to say invited back to Biloxi. That's why

1005
00:50:58,679 --> 00:50:59,360
he's not saying that.

1006
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:01,079
Speaker 4: No, it's not that.

1007
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 5: It's just that I look, I look at the the

1008
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,360
A and m ut game that you just alluded to, Craig.

1009
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,519
If Mike Elko had any type of creativity, A and

1010
00:51:13,639 --> 00:51:17,360
m would have scored a touchdown when they had more

1011
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,960
than one chance at the goal line.

1012
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: So Jim so I and Clemson has a good defense.

1013
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 5: Texas has played plenty of close, low scoring games.

1014
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:39,199
Speaker 4: Against good competition. I don't think Clemson is Georgia obviously

1015
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,800
thirty four to three. I don't think, but I do

1016
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,840
think Clemson is better than a and m so I

1017
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,840
think that wins.

1018
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 5: I just the way the games have gone for both teams.

1019
00:51:53,840 --> 00:52:00,199
I see this just by default, not that it's it's

1020
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:00,840
gonna be close.

1021
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:01,559
Speaker 1: I guess.

1022
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 4: This is what I'm trying to get at, is.

1023
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be closed just because of the

1024
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,639
way both teams play, and the end result will be

1025
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,840
something like I don't know about thirty one to ten.

1026
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:17,719
I would say more in the neighborhood of twenty four to.

1027
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 4: Seventeen. You know, maybe even thirteen, but thirteen's eleven. It's

1028
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,400
a push.

1029
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 5: So I don't see either team getting well over twenty points,

1030
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,559
and I think Texas wins barely getting to twenty points.

1031
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,599
Speaker 1: I see it's another instance of like exactly what happened

1032
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:46,000
Week one. You got a close first half and Texas

1033
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:48,360
runs away with it a couple of you know, to

1034
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,920
to and a half two and a half scores whatever

1035
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,159
that mays be, Yeah, kind of runs it away.

1036
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 4: That's possible. I could see that happening.

1037
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: Plus, plus let's let's figure out like if we're gonna

1038
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,800
look at most electric home field, and because I think

1039
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,039
this is the underrated thing, no offense to Notre Dame,

1040
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,480
no offense to the white out. I think UT is

1041
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:12,119
going to be absolutely lit on Saturday afternoon for that game.

1042
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:14,199
I wish that was the night game rather than going

1043
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,920
to Columbus.

1044
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,199
Speaker 4: You skipped Columbus. Was that on purpose or no?

1045
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: We're going to get there, But I think I think

1046
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,599
there's too much internal strife to make that number one uh.

1047
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 5: From from that perspective, I I've never been to Derek

1048
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Darryl O k Royal inside, but outside the stadium, I've

1049
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,559
never been in the game there. I just I don't

1050
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:41,920
think UT fans are that ruckus, even though they're now

1051
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,519
in the sea we have the Minister of Culture.

1052
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: Though they're kind of line and cheese.

1053
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 4: I think so too.

1054
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 5: They're more in line with a I'll be the first

1055
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,679
tell you the Name's atmosphere is very spotty, like in

1056
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,239
the stadium as a whole. They get pretty crazy for

1057
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:01,440
a hot state, but you just have your pockets of

1058
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:05,039
like I get nuts, but then there's a lot of

1059
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:08,000
wine and cheese stuff going on. And I hope I

1060
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,679
don't see that Friday night from Nordameside. But that's why

1061
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,800
I see UT. I don't know that how big of

1062
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,480
a home and advantage homefield advantage.

1063
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,199
Speaker 4: It is, but I do think in this particular instance, you.

1064
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 5: Gotta get Dabbo some credit for having been there and

1065
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,960
having accomplished what he's accomplished.

1066
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: As a head coach. So again, I do think Texas wins.

1067
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 5: I don't think it's that bad of a beatdown because

1068
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:39,400
Dabo's Phil Dabo, and Thompson does have town roster.

1069
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 3: He's the most He's the most accomplished head coach and

1070
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,199
active head coach in college football.

1071
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 4: What oh yeah, whatever, David retired, he's king for Kirby.

1072
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: Kirby's more way, more accomplished than Dabbo. Dabo's winning like

1073
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,800
the Mickey Mouse Division every year.

1074
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 3: So have two national championships and then we have to

1075
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,079
go to commerce championships next.

1076
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 2: It really make the argument, but we will.

1077
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,079
Speaker 3: We will talk.

1078
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,639
Speaker 1: About let's just not bring up the record. Let's bring

1079
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,400
up the record Bama because that might also um am

1080
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,039
I arguing for.

1081
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: Around now we have to evolve.

1082
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: I can't stand the SEC bias, this, that and the other.

1083
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:22,119
Speaker 1: I can't you on the show. Then about.

1084
00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 3: At the same because because despite a loss to a

1085
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,599
middle tier MAC team, Notre Dame managed to make it

1086
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:34,199
into the playoffs with a decently hot sea and we

1087
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,599
need this.

1088
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: Thank you. It took us what almost an hour to

1089
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,960
get to northern Illinois. Thank you.

1090
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like we're pasted it. I

1091
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,400
feel like we're kind of passing this point. We just

1092
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:49,800
have to we have to live in the world in

1093
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,679
front of us, and that's that's why I'm not still

1094
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,239
arguing to come on in the playoffs.

1095
00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:56,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what I was gonna say is like, if

1096
00:55:56,079 --> 00:56:00,719
you're looking Kirby versus Dabo, I think we anybody who

1097
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,760
legitimately followed college football, you have to admit that winning

1098
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,760
ACC as many times Dabo is done, isn't nearly as

1099
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,000
accomplished as winning a ACC title.

1100
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say you get an argument against

1101
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,079
that on this show for sure?

1102
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,079
Speaker 1: Can I say, can I say one more thing? One

1103
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,000
more thing on this one? Mike, you said twenty four

1104
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:24,559
thirteen to me at this point, So sure you said

1105
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:28,840
twenty four to thirteen. Yeah, sir, that is not a

1106
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,880
push because the line is eleven and a half. Dabbo

1107
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:32,960
would cover a twenty.

1108
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: Five What book are you looking at though?

1109
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: ESPN? And then it moved yep, Well, you know, like

1110
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:45,400
I listen I may not be the host, but I

1111
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,679
appreciate facts here rob and try to get the most

1112
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,679
up to date information.

1113
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:52,679
Speaker 3: Okay, excuse me for locking it in earthier today when

1114
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:56,440
I made this seat. All right, so I'm going to

1115
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,280
take Texas to cover as well. Whether it's eleven or

1116
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,199
eleven and a half, I think they went by fourteen.

1117
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:05,360
I'm gonna go twenty seven thirteen. Let's move on to

1118
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:07,280
Tennessee at Ohio State.

1119
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: SEC.

1120
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 3: Fans that are listening to this are offended because both

1121
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,719
of you have referred to Texas as UT and the

1122
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,599
longer standing UT in the SEC.

1123
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,159
Speaker 1: We claim to have the true title there.

1124
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: Tennessee at Ohio State Ohio State seven and a half point

1125
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,760
favorite Saturday at eight pm on ABC and ESPN. What

1126
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:33,480
it's seven points? So that so that one moves too

1127
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:36,840
since earlier today. Apparently that doesn't surprise me. I think

1128
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,480
that stuff together, sir, I think that how much.

1129
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: Money are you putting on these games to move the line?

1130
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna fact I can either confirm or

1131
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,559
deny any of this.

1132
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,159
Speaker 3: I think this one is the most interesting, the most intriguing,

1133
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,000
the one that gets my attention the most in terms

1134
00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:56,280
of potential for a great game, but also questions could

1135
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,280
be a complete blowout because I think there's so many

1136
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,039
moving parts in this one, and I do think Craig,

1137
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:05,159
to your point, I think this one gets under a touchdown.

1138
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:07,000
This is the only one that gets under a touchdown

1139
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,639
before kickoff. In terms of the line, so High State

1140
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:15,639
High State eighteenth in points per game, first in points allowed,

1141
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:19,079
So from a defensive standpoint, they allow roughly one hundred

1142
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:22,199
point yards yards per game on the ground, it's like

1143
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,880
ninety six or ninety seven, so are around in there.

1144
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:27,960
Tennessee is eight in points per game and fifth in

1145
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,079
points allowed, So you got two really good defenses here.

1146
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:33,559
I looked it up because I was really looking at

1147
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,440
Dylan Sampson and we know that he's going to be

1148
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,599
a major key in this game. And Tennessee rushes for

1149
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:40,159
two hundred and thirty two yards per game, but on

1150
00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:42,519
average they also throw for two hundred and thirty And

1151
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:45,039
that was kind of a happy accident that I found

1152
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:47,079
that I got the passing stats when I was looking

1153
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:50,960
at the rushing stats. The balance, the balance is crazy,

1154
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:52,639
and I know that that's kind of offset by the

1155
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:55,480
fact that Nico tossed it around against some lesser opponents

1156
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,239
and probably boosted those numbers up a good bit.

1157
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: Yes, he did beat the Mount Tam.

1158
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:07,119
Speaker 3: I'm like, however, what we saw, what we saw was

1159
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:08,719
and we'll say this and say this and say this

1160
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,639
over and over again. Is that against Bama that game

1161
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:15,119
was closed. Tennessee won the game, but they could have

1162
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:17,360
blown the doors off had he just hit the deep

1163
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,440
shots that he had opened.

1164
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:21,519
Speaker 1: And so obviously big against Georgia.

1165
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,679
Speaker 3: Big key to the game here is can he connect

1166
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:33,840
on things that are not short or even even you know,

1167
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:36,840
middle tier throws. Can he hit the deep ball? Is

1168
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,519
he gonna hit anything down the field? I don't think

1169
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:40,039
he has to hit him all, but I think he

1170
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:42,280
has to hit more more than more than one. He

1171
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,719
has to hit more than one. And then obviously we

1172
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,760
have Samson versus their high sight defense is the major

1173
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:47,320
matchup here.

1174
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:50,519
Speaker 1: So, so how did he do against Georgia? I'll sence,

1175
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:52,719
you didn't answer my question because you were ignoring me.

1176
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: I was, I was finished. It's called finishing your sentence.

1177
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: To finish that. Yeah, in the so here's how here's

1178
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,960
how we did twenty Actually, we broke this.

1179
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: We broke this down thoroughly after the game, we all

1180
01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:09,880
know go ahead, and like Mike.

1181
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: Mike may not have been paying attention, you know, Notre Dame.

1182
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,679
Could have been playing like our sisters are the poor,

1183
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,880
or you know.

1184
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,199
Speaker 4: This, positions and dentists, surgeons.

1185
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: He could have been getting this checks, getting this cat scanned.

1186
01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:27,119
And I think it's because the only reason I bring

1187
01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:30,679
this up is I think Georgia and Ohio States defenses

1188
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:35,039
are comparable in that in that game, Nico could not

1189
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,679
hit a deep shot. Everything was a short crossing or out.

1190
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:40,880
Everything was a short checkdown. He was twenty of thirty

1191
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,719
three for one hundred and sixty seven, no touchdowns, no interceptions.

1192
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:48,079
So like to me, this game begins and ends with

1193
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:54,039
the quarterback, and Nico has not shown it when it

1194
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:58,280
matters the most that he can pick apart a top

1195
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,840
tier defense. And I think this is what has the

1196
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,559
potential to say Ryan Day in Ohio State.

1197
01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: That's and everything you guys are saying is right, like Rob.

1198
01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:15,599
Speaker 5: Hen't have to hit them all, but you know Hypel's

1199
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:20,639
gonna take those shots, yep, and that it's funny like

1200
01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:22,880
the line being seven, I thought was like that seems

1201
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,679
like a lot like that's a big number of Ohio

1202
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:31,719
State Tennessee, right, I see the game being remotely pretty close. However,

1203
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,880
if Nico's missing all of those deep shots, that can

1204
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,719
easily flip the game heavily in Ohio State's favor because

1205
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:46,559
Ohio State is very methodical with the offense with Will

1206
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:50,320
Howard under center, so they're not going to take the

1207
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,639
huge shots. But if they can just consistently move the ball,

1208
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,840
and then Tennessee's coming back trying to take the big

1209
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:02,599
shots fails and pops them three out out of their offense,

1210
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,320
and I can see how it gets to seven or

1211
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,800
bigger quickly. But at the same time, to Rob's point,

1212
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:13,519
if he hits some of those all of a sudden,

1213
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:16,960
it's it's a much different ballgame.

1214
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:20,559
Speaker 1: And that's the key, is what I think you have,

1215
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:23,920
though you have Chip Kelly, where the running game I

1216
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,480
think is equal for both teams. The difference between these

1217
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:30,679
two here is going to be Smith, Abuka and Tate

1218
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,519
all averaging more than you know, twelve and a half

1219
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:38,079
yards a reception, so they have that big playability. Where

1220
01:02:38,519 --> 01:02:42,079
again I think you know, both Chip and Josh Heipel

1221
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,960
are going to be run and Ron Ron take that shot,

1222
01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:49,639
and I think what we've seen is is that Will

1223
01:02:49,719 --> 01:02:53,519
Howard is a little bit more accurate and Ken you know,

1224
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:56,119
hit that deep ball. For whatever reason, they didn't do it,

1225
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,000
you know a couple of weeks ago against Michigan and

1226
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:00,920
what the game plan was, what was happening there. But

1227
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:07,519
like it's at Ohio State receiving corps and their ability

1228
01:03:07,679 --> 01:03:10,119
to just turn it on and to make big place.

1229
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:13,280
But again, even I go back to James Franklin. This year,

1230
01:03:14,239 --> 01:03:16,079
Ryan Day has done a lot of the same things.

1231
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,920
There's been a lot of games this year where our

1232
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,440
house state's kind of like yeah, you know, like the

1233
01:03:22,519 --> 01:03:28,159
Oregon game was good, but like there's a lot of

1234
01:03:28,159 --> 01:03:30,000
playing with your food. There's a lot of kind of

1235
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:33,400
like rising and falling to the wrong rising and falling

1236
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,280
to that competition.

1237
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 3: So it's like they clearly had the best roster in

1238
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,679
the country. They went out and paid.

1239
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:43,079
Speaker 1: For dollars legend and well that was New York said

1240
01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:46,519
it like an idiot did why did you make that?

1241
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,039
Why would you make that announcement?

1242
01:03:48,719 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: Anyway, Sorry, we.

1243
01:03:50,239 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 4: Didn't they be Nebraska was twenty one seventeen or something

1244
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:52,679
like that.

1245
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:57,159
Speaker 1: Maybe four. It was tight, tight, and then that's not

1246
01:03:57,199 --> 01:03:59,280
impressive anymore, is it? No?

1247
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 3: And then obviously Michigan happened it wasn't impressive, then.

1248
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, and it's yeah Ohio that's But That's what I'm

1249
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,000
saying is if you saw the line and you put

1250
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:18,760
in your head that well, Tennessee's gonna hit some deep shots.

1251
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,199
Speaker 4: I've seen how steep play. How in the world is

1252
01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:26,559
the line seven? But I think this game is gonna

1253
01:04:26,639 --> 01:04:31,079
literally live and die on whether the Tennessee offense can

1254
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:33,719
hit those shots that you know they're gonna try to take.

1255
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:40,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Ohio State, I'm spacing on the defensive coordinator Knowles.

1256
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

1257
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:49,519
Speaker 5: So if US three you're sitting nowhere near Columbus Ohio going, well,

1258
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:51,559
Tennessee's gonna take some deep shots. I'd like to think

1259
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:54,360
Jim Knowles knows they're gonna take some deep shots. So

1260
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:57,039
I when they went by seven, I don't know, But

1261
01:04:57,119 --> 01:05:01,199
I do think Ohio State wins just because if you

1262
01:05:01,199 --> 01:05:05,639
can keep everything in front of you against Tennessee, you're

1263
01:05:05,719 --> 01:05:08,800
going to increase your odds. And I do think Ohio

1264
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:16,880
State has a very efficient, controlled, methodical offense that it's

1265
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,840
hard to totally stop.

1266
01:05:19,639 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 3: All right, So let's let's let's pick it. I'm gonna

1267
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,800
give you one more piece of information before we pick it.

1268
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,880
And I know we talked about this before, but this

1269
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,239
has to play a factor. The high in Columbus, Ohio

1270
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:38,239
on Saturday, it's thirty two degrees. The low for this

1271
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:43,960
for this night game, it's fifteen, only a ten percent

1272
01:05:44,039 --> 01:05:48,239
chance of precipitation. But you're talking about an easy twenty

1273
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,519
degrees with ten to fifteen mile prior wins.

1274
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: What it looks like.

1275
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,079
Speaker 3: So but winschill is going to be in the teens.

1276
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,519
How does that impact see if at all? Just throwing

1277
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:03,280
it out there.

1278
01:06:03,639 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, question, So that's Dylan Sampson versus question Sewn Jenkins.

1279
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 5: Then, right, because it's the weather obviously, Like again going

1280
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,760
back to will the team who's visiting be affected? Just

1281
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:22,840
in general, Tennessee gets weathered obviously, so that's a concern.

1282
01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:27,920
But from a throwing perspective, much like Notre Davergs Indiana,

1283
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:33,760
who gets most hindered by that aspect? Now I would

1284
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,119
take based on this year alone, I'd probably take Dylan

1285
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:43,400
Sampson over Jenkins. However, However, I do think some of

1286
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:48,519
that has to do with Nico's ability as a quarterback

1287
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:53,360
and threat that allows Sampson to there's some more opportunities

1288
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,679
that maybe Jenkins isn't getting.

1289
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 4: I still take Sampson.

1290
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,199
Speaker 2: Well in twenty degrees.

1291
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the kid from from Pennsylvania versus the

1292
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,480
kid from Long Beach, California throwing the football, not Tennessee

1293
01:07:08,599 --> 01:07:10,920
versus Ohio State. I'm looking at where you're from, where

1294
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,000
you grew up, what you're what you're built with.

1295
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,039
Speaker 4: What'd you say, I knows from Pennsylvania.

1296
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny.

1297
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's that's fair, that's true.

1298
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,639
Speaker 5: That's where I think it creates a problem is and

1299
01:07:26,679 --> 01:07:31,480
I was talking to somebody just recently and talking about

1300
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,679
no game Indiana and the weather, and they said, you know,

1301
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,840
they've talked to a lot of quarterbacks. It would via

1302
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:43,039
Twitter but X, but they talked a lot of quarterbacks.

1303
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:47,039
They said, it's not the temperature or the fact that

1304
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:48,039
it's snowing, it's.

1305
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,039
Speaker 4: Wind yep and if there was good to be wind.

1306
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,679
Speaker 5: In Columbus that that that just favors Ohio State. Even

1307
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,000
though I would take Sampson over a jet can. Yeah,

1308
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:05,320
a lot of what Tennessee does just so predicated on

1309
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,480
the past game and the wind is again on top

1310
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:13,639
of being from California, on top of you know how

1311
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:16,000
many deep shots can you hit? Now we're going to

1312
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:19,640
factor in wind yep. I don't know if we're are

1313
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,479
we golfers or three of us? I play golf.

1314
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,159
Speaker 1: You play golf not well, but I can hit a ball.

1315
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,279
Speaker 4: But yeah, if you've played in wind you know exactly

1316
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:32,920
that you can relate to a quarterback trying.

1317
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: Win.

1318
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,039
Speaker 3: This is what Steve Spurry or Steve Sperry sence all

1319
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:37,600
the time.

1320
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: Like Florida at South Carolina.

1321
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 3: Well, I think you said it at both if we're

1322
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:48,520
Redskins or rain Snow. I don't think it was. It

1323
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,319
may have been. It had to be the Redskins if

1324
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,319
it was in Florida. But I don't know about Duke.

1325
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,159
We go that far, but he said the exact same

1326
01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:57,399
thing that it wasn't. It wasn't for the precipitation.

1327
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

1328
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 3: The temperature is completely the wind.

1329
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: Martin Bradwig took to win in two thousand and it

1330
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,279
did not work for him against the Chicago bankers, all right.

1331
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:13,039
Speaker 3: Piket Craig Tennessee, Ohio State seven Ohio State.

1332
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,119
Speaker 1: Ohio State is impressive. I covered hand in the playoffs.

1333
01:09:17,119 --> 01:09:21,159
Ohio State is impressive against all teams not named Michigan.

1334
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,279
And at the end of the day, I don't believe

1335
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:28,119
in Nico. To be honest, I'm still not a believer

1336
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:31,239
in Hypel Like I wanted to ask the question of like,

1337
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:34,840
what does a hypel big win. Yes, he's beating Alabama twice,

1338
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:39,039
but like, I just don't believe him, believe in him yet.

1339
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:42,840
I just and and and it's I'm trying. It's not

1340
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,840
my Georgia bias, righting. I just something just doesn't sit

1341
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:53,720
right where it can fly. Yeah, so is also on

1342
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:58,680
my mind too. So they cover the seven, yes, Mike.

1343
01:09:59,319 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I don't want to say the exact same

1344
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,800
thing Craig said, but yeah, I think high State covers

1345
01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:09,960
only because there's there's too many things that have to

1346
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,159
go just right for Tennessee, where I feel like Ohio

1347
01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:20,359
State there's enough I guess certainty and certain things they

1348
01:10:20,399 --> 01:10:23,760
do that I'm just have more confidence and what they

1349
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,439
do working versus what Tennessee needs to happen to make

1350
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:27,920
it happen.

1351
01:10:28,359 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 4: And so I would take a high state to cover.

1352
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,359
Speaker 3: All right, So let me set the scene for you.

1353
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,840
It's late in the fourth quarter. Here we go Tennessee.

1354
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:41,640
Tennessee punts high state fair catch on the twenty three

1355
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:46,039
yard line. You get a Judkins run, kind of feels

1356
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:48,560
like they're going to move the ball, and then they

1357
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,520
decide to drop back and pass. James Pierce comes through

1358
01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:56,199
with the strip sack of Will Howard, late turnover. Tennessee

1359
01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:59,439
kicks a field goal to win the game. Twenty to seventeen.

1360
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:04,479
That is my prediction, the upset of the weekend. Score

1361
01:11:05,239 --> 01:11:06,199
twenty to seventeen.

1362
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,119
Speaker 1: Okay, I think you said twenty three. I was like,

1363
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,199
field will worth six points now, sorry, twenty to seventeen.

1364
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,640
That's where we're at, all right.

1365
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: So we've gone through them, we've broken them down, we've

1366
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,239
analyzed them. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the last word,

1367
01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:22,319
as an ode to our writing platform, last Word on

1368
01:11:22,359 --> 01:11:24,960
college football. We want to talk for just a moment

1369
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,000
about why the Bulls still matter because he and I'm

1370
01:11:29,039 --> 01:11:30,479
going to go on a little diet trip here and

1371
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,439
then let you guys kind of chime in and comments.

1372
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: As fans of two teams that are in the playoff.

1373
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 3: I'll speak from the outside and say and just say

1374
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,000
this number one. It's well known, it's been covered, it's

1375
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,239
been talked about, it's been stated. Bowls are going nowhere.

1376
01:11:45,279 --> 01:11:46,960
They make way too much money. We don't want to

1377
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:52,960
watch other things. Marshall, that's a different situation, thank you.

1378
01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:56,239
Speaker 4: That's who backed out right. Yes, remember who it was,

1379
01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:56,840
it was Marshall.

1380
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: Okay, they have twenty five plus in the portal, so

1381
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:05,319
they are having trouble fielding a roster transfer. They were there,

1382
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,560
they won their conference, and their coach left to go

1383
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:12,039
to Southern miss that's the story. So internal internal issues

1384
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,600
gotta be okay. So I think from an external perspective,

1385
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,720
we know that the Bulls aren't going anywhere because of

1386
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:20,840
the money, the money factor.

1387
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: They get way too many views.

1388
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,399
Speaker 3: Some of them do a really good job of butts

1389
01:12:25,399 --> 01:12:27,960
and seats, some of them not so much. But I

1390
01:12:28,319 --> 01:12:33,520
thoroughly enjoyed watching Western Michigan in South Alabama last night

1391
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,199
because football is football, and we only get so much

1392
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:39,199
college football, and so I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna watch

1393
01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:41,560
as much of it. I'm gonna watch as much of

1394
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,479
it as I can. And and the numbers prove themselves

1395
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,880
that that's what's happening, and so the networks are making money,

1396
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,600
and so we're gonna continue to have these bulls were

1397
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,920
worth these teams. However, I do think that there's always

1398
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,439
changes that can be made and that's a positive. We

1399
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,600
could switch them things up. Uh, but I think bowls matter.

1400
01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:04,199
I think bowls matter for player development, and I think

1401
01:13:04,239 --> 01:13:08,239
balls matter. As we continue to see the transfer protal

1402
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:11,279
and and NIL kind of level the playing field a

1403
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:13,239
little bit, we've seen some more parody this year. We've

1404
01:13:13,239 --> 01:13:16,479
seen some team where we the statement the overarching theme

1405
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,399
of the year is no elite teams where we look

1406
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,359
at this playoff and it's it's really anybody's game except

1407
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:25,800
for maybe s us but or Indiana's.

1408
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: But it's it's it's anybody it's anybody else's game. It's

1409
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:29,920
anybody else's game.

1410
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,039
Speaker 3: But Uh, that being said, you have all these teams

1411
01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:40,119
at the at the at the bowl level who need

1412
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:44,119
to break through to the the next tier up. And

1413
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:47,560
I think from a marketing standpoint, from a player development standpoint,

1414
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:53,239
from a culture building standpoint, bowl practice, bowl experience is

1415
01:13:53,279 --> 01:13:56,199
a part of college football that is valuable within these programs,

1416
01:13:56,399 --> 01:13:59,079
and I think, at the heart of it, the things

1417
01:13:59,159 --> 01:13:59,760
that we love.

1418
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 1: The most about college football is tradition.

1419
01:14:04,079 --> 01:14:06,159
Speaker 3: If you go inside of if you go inside of

1420
01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:14,640
a stadium, it's the tradition. It's the years that have

1421
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,800
been built, that have been forged within that stadium, the wins,

1422
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:24,600
the losses together, the chance, the songs, the rituals, on

1423
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,359
and on aga.

1424
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: And part of college football is bowl season.

1425
01:14:33,279 --> 01:14:38,279
Speaker 3: And so the balls still matter, question, the matter within

1426
01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:41,159
the fan base, and they and they matter to the networks.

1427
01:14:41,279 --> 01:14:43,159
So those are three check boxes and we're going to

1428
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:44,000
continue to have both.

1429
01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Craig. So you give a coach some truth theorem,

1430
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,680
it's not in the college football playoffs. Sure, do you

1431
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,119
think they want to coach in a bull game or

1432
01:14:57,159 --> 01:15:00,159
do they want to get in the portal? Depends I'm

1433
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:05,119
the coach, So it's either they want to win or

1434
01:15:05,239 --> 01:15:08,560
like they're just happy to be there. No, I think

1435
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,479
that I think that there are plenty of coach.

1436
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 3: First of all, you can do both. It's being proven

1437
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,079
all over the place right now. And secondly, I think that.

1438
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: I think the gas are probably coaching most of these

1439
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:20,600
teams right now with the portal.

1440
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 3: I think that I think that some of these coaches

1441
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:31,439
would prefer to coach ball then to go scout thousands

1442
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,079
of players that have jumped into the portal so they

1443
01:15:36,119 --> 01:15:36,399
got in.

1444
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: So answer your question, here's the challenge. I don't know

1445
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,479
about you guys. Those bowls, especially in January, first hit

1446
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,399
differently when the semi final was on New Year's Eve.

1447
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,079
They just kind of lost some of their luster, They

1448
01:15:52,119 --> 01:15:55,359
lost some of their appeal. And that's what I wonder

1449
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,439
we have. We have college football playoff games coming up,

1450
01:16:01,159 --> 01:16:05,359
and let's be honest, they're inventory for ESPN. That's why

1451
01:16:05,359 --> 01:16:08,239
we have Capital One Bowl Week. They also give us

1452
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:10,760
good ratings, so they're not going anywhere. And I think

1453
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,600
that's why bulls matter. They give us inventory. Sure, there

1454
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,640
are some some feel good stories, but Marshall has shown

1455
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:23,720
us that they just don't mean as much anymore. That's

1456
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:24,159
not true.

1457
01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 3: So how kind of opt out of a Bowl in

1458
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,239
the nineties because the ad didn't want to go play

1459
01:16:28,279 --> 01:16:30,880
it because he was more worried about exams.

1460
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: Since one started on line to take exams.

1461
01:16:34,319 --> 01:16:39,159
Speaker 5: That was thirty years ago, Notre Dame when I don't

1462
01:16:39,159 --> 01:16:42,960
even know what fifty years without playing in the Bowl,

1463
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,920
and that was part of just the decision they made

1464
01:16:48,039 --> 01:16:51,960
is university like once the season's over, that's it. And

1465
01:16:52,119 --> 01:16:54,960
it came back when air procegion was that Notre Dame.

1466
01:16:55,399 --> 01:16:58,720
But look at last year, dude, sixty three to three

1467
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:04,000
Georgia Florida State. That was everything to do with the

1468
01:17:04,399 --> 01:17:10,680
current climate in college football. Because I'm not saying Florida

1469
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,920
State wins, but if they brought their full roster.

1470
01:17:14,199 --> 01:17:19,119
Speaker 1: They won, it would three to three, sixty three to ten,

1471
01:17:19,239 --> 01:17:21,760
maybe get out of here, which.

1472
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,079
Speaker 5: By the way, not to go off off track too

1473
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:26,600
much here, but that was a precursor for exactly what

1474
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,159
you saw with the two and ten team extend. It

1475
01:17:29,319 --> 01:17:33,479
was the three points like that was outside of DJU

1476
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,800
and a couple of transfers, that was the team they

1477
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,159
were bringing to the next year because all of that

1478
01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:41,479
opted out were either going to transfer or going pro.

1479
01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 4: So they weren't coming back to Florida State.

1480
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,119
Speaker 1: So why are we were?

1481
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 4: But no, I look at that game as I just

1482
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:51,920
use that in recent history of.

1483
01:17:54,039 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 5: The Bulls are losing some of the luster because you're

1484
01:17:58,039 --> 01:18:02,359
not getting the team. You know what you're getting, You're

1485
01:18:02,399 --> 01:18:08,199
getting the Holiday skeleton crew. You if if you ever

1486
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:10,880
had a job where there's shift work. You're you're getting

1487
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,279
the skeleton crew showing up with.

1488
01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: Bowl games, you're getting with the what the work effort

1489
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,720
is going to be this week before everyone goes down

1490
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,720
holiday for two weeks.

1491
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: I think it depends. I think it depends.

1492
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:23,279
Speaker 1: I think it has.

1493
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,039
Speaker 3: I think we have an opportunity. I think we have

1494
01:18:25,079 --> 01:18:27,760
an opportunity for that to shift though. And and I

1495
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,640
will credit Don and Shoulder and Travis Hunter and leading

1496
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,640
the charge on shifting that narrative, and that they're going

1497
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,640
to play. Most of that team is going to play.

1498
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,800
You got I'll again speak to South Carolina. You got

1499
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,800
the Citrus Bowl between two teams. There's one notable opt

1500
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,479
out between South Carolina and Illinois, and it's noise leader receiver.

1501
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:48,760
So I think that from year to year we have

1502
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,039
an opportunity to shift that narrative. I think that it

1503
01:18:52,279 --> 01:18:59,760
was media types who don't really watch football who wanted

1504
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,439
to get clicks because they they wanted to create a

1505
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,720
narrative where you know, the big bad sport is out

1506
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,640
to hurt these young men so that they could, you know,

1507
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,800
just put money in their own pocket because they're getting

1508
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:18,199
traffic on their articles. Started the conversation of quote unquote

1509
01:19:18,279 --> 01:19:22,279
meaningless bowl games, and then enough people caught onto it,

1510
01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:25,640
they got into players ears, and they just and then

1511
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,680
and then it became a norm that the bowl games

1512
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,720
are quote unquote meaningless. There are players who are gonna

1513
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,359
who are gonna play during this moost season. They are

1514
01:19:32,359 --> 01:19:35,760
going to draftically improve their draft stock. So for some guys,

1515
01:19:36,279 --> 01:19:37,199
everything's on the line.

1516
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: I want to I saw, Okay, So when we do

1517
01:19:40,119 --> 01:19:43,840
the draft thing in April, yep, I would like a

1518
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,319
list of three players that improve their draft stock because

1519
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:53,439
of what they did in I'll have it ready for you.

1520
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 4: Well, I saw. I'll say two things. One Craig said

1521
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,920
at the beginning of the show, it's me me vers

1522
01:20:00,199 --> 01:20:01,319
we or be over we?

1523
01:20:02,359 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 1: And is it me or is a week?

1524
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, that's okay, that's what it was.

1525
01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:09,159
Speaker 5: So the other thing I'll say again is cruggling back

1526
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:12,560
to Notre Dame, because that's why I'm here, Jalen Smith,

1527
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:15,039
does that name mean anything to either of you?

1528
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: Two towards towards knee in the bowl game and was

1529
01:20:21,039 --> 01:20:22,720
going to be a high round pick, and that ended

1530
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,000
up being like a thirty or fourth round pick. Look

1531
01:20:25,039 --> 01:20:28,439
at that this is NCC guy. Now he's now he's

1532
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,359
a Notre Dame guy. Went from Big twelve guy last

1533
01:20:30,399 --> 01:20:32,079
week to Notre Dame guy this week. There you go,

1534
01:20:33,319 --> 01:20:37,439
but happy So yeah, welcome to Craig.

1535
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 2: You have no family and no conference in supports you.

1536
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 5: He went from a probably top fifteen pick to getting

1537
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,439
his knee absolutely destroyed against.

1538
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:47,279
Speaker 4: Ohio State in the Fiesta Ball.

1539
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,239
Speaker 5: Now it's the Fiesta bawl, but it wasn't even I'm

1540
01:20:52,279 --> 01:20:54,239
not saying it's meaningless. But in the grands game of

1541
01:20:54,359 --> 01:20:56,319
can you win a national championship? Does this lead to

1542
01:20:56,359 --> 01:20:59,319
anything grandy more grand than winning the Fiesta Ball? No

1543
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,680
pas First of all, Nigus torah as his long road

1544
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,359
to recovery. Cowboys take a chance on him because Jerry

1545
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:09,800
Jones is a moron. Not that he drafted Jalen Smith.

1546
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,600
That's more of an offshoot of Jerry Jones not knowing

1547
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:13,359
what he's doing.

1548
01:21:14,239 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 4: But Jalen Smith still had a road to recovery. Eventually

1549
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:19,359
played some.

1550
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,119
Speaker 5: Did things in the NFL that a lot of people

1551
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:26,079
don't get the opportunity to do successfully.

1552
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 4: But that injury really changed his entire career trajectory, career earnings,

1553
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:34,199
et cetera.

1554
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: So that.

1555
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,199
Speaker 5: That plays a part too, where there's we're all side

1556
01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:46,800
with the player going me over, we like, are are

1557
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,840
you about to be a top fifteen pick and make

1558
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,039
how many millions upon millions of dollars?

1559
01:21:52,039 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: Travis shouldn't be playing Jackson Dart should not be playing.

1560
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,359
Speaker 5: I agree, that's what that's what we say. I get

1561
01:21:57,399 --> 01:22:00,119
you were talking about Colorado and Dion and stuff. That

1562
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,000
is cool and if you can sell the spotlight aspect

1563
01:22:04,079 --> 01:22:06,760
of it, Hey, so many people are going to be

1564
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,439
tuning in because it's bull Mania capitol in Bollmania and

1565
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:13,479
we did we did our our confidence picks and everybody's

1566
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:14,520
gonna be watching because of that.

1567
01:22:15,239 --> 01:22:20,399
Speaker 4: But at the same time, is that worth one play

1568
01:22:21,079 --> 01:22:24,359
that we all know? What what I'm what I'm saying

1569
01:22:24,359 --> 01:22:25,399
when I say that one play?

1570
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:26,199
Speaker 1: Yep?

1571
01:22:27,319 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 3: I mean I think I'll push back and say I

1572
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,840
just think it speaks volumes about the players love for

1573
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,239
the game, and I think we've lost it because if

1574
01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:37,079
it really is the.

1575
01:22:37,119 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: Coaches love for the game, where's Rich Rodriguez's love for

1576
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,760
the game? After you know, Jacksonville State's going to a

1577
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,359
bowl game and now he's in West Virginia. But where's

1578
01:22:46,399 --> 01:22:47,560
the coaches love for the game?

1579
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: But why structure?

1580
01:22:50,319 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: That's because the structure of the calendar.

1581
01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 3: That's because of the structure of the calendar. He still

1582
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,479
loves the game. He still loves the game. He's just

1583
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,000
been hired. If the NFL came in, if the Cowboy

1584
01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:03,119
came in and drafted Jackson Dark today, then obviously he's

1585
01:23:03,159 --> 01:23:03,880
not playing in the game.

1586
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,159
Speaker 2: But that's not how the calendar works.

1587
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,319
Speaker 3: You still have one more opportunity with your guys to

1588
01:23:07,359 --> 01:23:10,239
go out there and win, to get back on the field. Last.

1589
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: It's the last opportunity, but the school has already hired him.

1590
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:20,079
Speaker 3: Craig so poo West Virginia. That's what we did, like

1591
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:22,680
they have to make their move. That's not how it's

1592
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,000
because the NFL's calendar works better than anybody else's because

1593
01:23:26,039 --> 01:23:28,399
the people that set up college football in every aspect

1594
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,760
are idiots. They don't have the calendar right, they don't

1595
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,000
have to playoff. Right do you want to My computer's

1596
01:23:34,039 --> 01:23:35,560
on six percent and we've been on here for an

1597
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:36,359
hour and forty minutes.

1598
01:23:36,399 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 1: You really want to start this diatribe that I have

1599
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,840
about the freaking committee and then check in check in

1600
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,760
early early, early this week, Rob and I will be

1601
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,199
back with a special bonus SEC Bowl episode to prove

1602
01:23:48,319 --> 01:23:50,640
that it just means more, and we will break down

1603
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,600
every one of your SEC Bowl games and we will

1604
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,520
not talk about Notre Dame. Sorry, Mike, what a save

1605
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:57,680
from the co host.

1606
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks to Mike from five but Nothing Pod. Make

1607
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,800
sure you go give him a follow on x at

1608
01:24:04,079 --> 01:24:07,399
the number five foot Nothing Pod and make sure you

1609
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,600
check him out, go listen to a show. He's going

1610
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,680
to be looking forward to having a bunch of new

1611
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,359
listeners tuning in after Notre Dame's big win against Indiana

1612
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,880
on Saturday, we all agreed there. It's the only place

1613
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:23,199
where we agreed across the board. So let's not screw

1614
01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:24,840
that one up and land in the I Was Wrong

1615
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,239
segment next week, right, Mike, Hey, thanks a lot again

1616
01:24:27,359 --> 01:24:31,840
for coming on. Congrats to you guys on the baseball

1617
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,079
wins this week, and thank you. I'm glad that you

1618
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,520
have enjoyed some travels and safe travels back to Texas.

1619
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,239
Thanks again for being here with us night. It was

1620
01:24:41,239 --> 01:24:42,479
a great conversation. We appreciate you.

1621
01:24:43,159 --> 01:24:47,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, anybody out there, if you listening, DM me I'm

1622
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,239
very conversational, I'm open to it. If you listen to

1623
01:24:50,319 --> 01:24:53,520
my show after about the first fifteen minutes is straight

1624
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,399
Notre Dame. I do cover some college football, much like tonight,

1625
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,199
but it does go Notre Dame pretty heavy.

1626
01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:02,359
Speaker 4: So if you like that, let's let's.

1627
01:25:02,199 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: Go and we can all agree Rudy was off sides. Bye.

1628
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:14,199
M m hmmmm mm hmm