WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:02.759 Welcome to the Big Blue and sider Dick Abriel with 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:06.000 you on a Thursday edition of our program. As we 3 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:10.320 draw one day closer to game night, but also one 4 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.480 day closer to event night. This is the overlap period 5 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:16.440 in October when there is so much going on in 6 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:19.760 college athletics, including basketball and football. The games have not 7 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:23.239 begun yet in college basketball, as you know, but Madness 8 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:26.800 is upon us. That happens tomorrow night. Know radio coverage, 9 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:30.559 but there will be TV coverage on the SEC Network. 10 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.320 In fact, Tom Hart has double duty this week for 11 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.880 the SEC Network. He's the guy who called Vanderbilt Alabama 12 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:40.560 with Coole Kublick and Alyssa Lang last week. He'll be 13 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.200 working Kentucky Vanderbilt Saturday night, but also coming to town 14 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:47.399 today early to work Madness, which he has done before. 15 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:50.159 Tom's going to join us on the show tomorrow night, 16 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:54.320 just ahead of the Madness telecast, but also he'll talk 17 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:57.920 to us about Kentucky football as well. We'll have that 18 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.880 one for you at five thirty. Christy Thomas, Slogan Stenberg, 19 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:04.519 Jeremy Jarman with Pregame, Tom Leach, Jeff McCory, Yours Truly 20 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.599 with Commodore's Cats. It's a huge game for both both 21 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.680 coming off huge upsets, Vandy of the two a little 22 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:14.599 bit bigger upset, but boy to Kentucky need that win now, 23 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:17.680 like Kentucky needed the win more than Vandy. Now. The 24 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:22.000 Vandy people would argue that nobody expected. Of course, that 25 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.560 went over Alabama, that was not circled as a win 26 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:27.040 on the Vandy schedule. And I don't know how many 27 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:31.040 people expected Vandy to go to a bowl game this season. 28 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:33.879 Of course, a huge step closer for the Commodores, but 29 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.840 Kentucky had already given away that game to South Carolina, 30 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.560 got it back against Ole miss Vandy fans could argue 31 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.319 they gave away a game, which they did to Missouri. 32 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.400 So it's huge for both sides. And you know what, though, 33 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:50.719 it always is, And I know I've said this before, 34 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:54.439 but I always go back to the news conference when 35 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.760 Rich Brooks was here early in his tenure, and he 36 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.079 got a little testy a couple times, although I think 37 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.959 it was more delivering this as a wry observation, but 38 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.159 I remember he stood up in front of the media 39 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:11.159 and Wildcat Den and he talked about the Vandy series 40 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.360 and he was basically an unparaphrasing saying, you know, everybody 41 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:18.800 expects us to win this game every year. But he 42 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:22.520 pointed out that at the time, and of course this 43 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.680 was what twelve to fifteen years ago more, the series 44 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.199 was deadlock. I want to say eighty one, eighty one 45 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.960 and four. Both teams had won eighty one times with 46 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:39.240 four ties. This is a game that both sides fully 47 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:42.479 expect to win. I'm talking about the fans, not so 48 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:47.120 much the coaches and players, but fans absolutely expected their 49 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:50.719 respective teams to win this game. And yet it could 50 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:55.000 not have been more evenly split. And it's like that 51 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.879 this weekend. You know, if Kentucky loses this game, people 52 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:01.840 are going to be picked off and devastated and all that. 53 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.639 Oh we lose to Vandy. It's it's just not the 54 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:08.599 same And if Vandy loses, it's not the same Kentucky team. 55 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:10.960 And in fact, Vandy came in here two years ago 56 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.800 in Kentucky was flat through their helmets on the field 57 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.719 and lost. Like, Hey, we're Kentucky or Vandy, We're gonna win. No, 58 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:21.000 it doesn't work that way. I'll double back to Kentucky 59 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:22.919 football in just a minute. But I wanted to share 60 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:25.879 a couple of stories with you. You know by now, 61 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:28.520 the Mets beat the Phillies Francisco Lindor with a Grand 62 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:33.479 Slam in the NLDS Game four. So the Phillies, who 63 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:36.800 have said it's World Series or bust for us, they're busted. 64 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.280 And the Mets, you know, one of the Cinderella teams 65 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:44.080 still in the playoffs, are moving on. But the Phillies, 66 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.520 for all the money they invested, you forget the Mets 67 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:52.000 spent a ton of money on indoor. They invested three 68 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.879 hundred and forty one million dollars and thought, well, this 69 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.479 guy can get us some playoff wins. And guess what 70 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.599 he did. When you're a hedge fund billionaire like Steve Cohen, 71 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:05.240 the owner, you can afford that kind of money, which 72 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.240 he did. He shelled that out three years ago, got 73 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.639 himself a star shortstop, thought he would have that position 74 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:14.919 locked down for the next decade. And it looks like 75 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:20.480 it was money well spent. Yankees beat the Royals last night, 76 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.040 so both New York teams are still alive. So are 77 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:27.879 the Dodgers, who were on the brink, but they blanked 78 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:31.319 the San Diego Padres bullpen got it done. Our man 79 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:33.600 Gary Moore was almost us last night, our Weston bureau 80 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:37.480 chief who covered the Dodgers for the longest time, and 81 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.199 we both talked about how pitching has just been ravaged 82 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.680 by injuries, but Dodgers still alive. Padres are one of 83 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:48.279 those Cinderella teams the NFL, of course, the biggest story 84 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:51.079 this week so far the Jets firing coach Robert Sala. 85 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:55.319 Now comes to the debate about the role of Aaron Rodgers. 86 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.160 And I came across a column written by Mike Florio, 87 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:03.439 who is a well re the calumnists, but he has 88 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.920 his opinion and he sits down and he writes his column, 89 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:12.160 and his opinion is that Rogers basically got Robert Sala fired, 90 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:14.959 not that he went to the owner and said, I 91 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:18.040 need you to fire this guy, which is what the 92 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.240 cynic in you says what happened. But that did not. 93 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:24.600 But as Foyo points out, he did not go to 94 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.279 the owner and say, hey, man, don't fire this guy. 95 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.959 Here's the thing, I don't really know that that would 96 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.600 have mattered, because from everything I've heard and read, the 97 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:40.040 owner watched the latest mess by the Jets getting beat 98 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.959 and made up his own mind, came to work, what 99 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.040 was it Monday or Tuesday, and Sala came in and hey, 100 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:54.199 mister Johnson needs to see you. So, yeah, Rogers had 101 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:56.600 a lot to do with the fact that they're not 102 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.199 playing well. Their defense is really good. Salah's a defensive guy, 103 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.560 and he went on and guy Nathaniel Hackett, who is 104 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:07.959 rogers offensive guy, but they're just bad on offense. And 105 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:12.360 I will say this, Tyler Conklin said, I don't think 106 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.399 anybody inside this building, player wise or anything, thought that 107 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.120 Aaron had anything to do with the firing. He told 108 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.360 ESPN dot Com. He said, I honestly, truly believe Aaron 109 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:26.000 probably took this harder than almost anybody. Of course, he 110 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:29.839 had gone on, Rogers said with Pat McAfee, and I 111 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.879 didn't hear it, but I read the transcript, and you know, 112 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.399 he talked about the emotional impact and things like that. 113 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.160 Rogers can make things sound though like he's shrugging things off. 114 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.639 But as long as he's got Hackett, I think he's 115 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:49.279 If not happy, he's comfortable, Well, they better start producing 116 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:53.879 points because whoever is the next head coach is going 117 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:58.560 to need more points or hit the unemployment line. Hey, 118 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:02.439 remember when the Wildcats would prepare for South Carolina and 119 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:06.120 quarterback Spencer Rattler, the guy who transferred from Oklahoma after 120 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:10.600 being the Heisman favorite and fell off the table, transferred 121 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:14.720 not a decent time in Columbia. Well, guess what he's 122 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.040 going to start for the New Orleans Saints. Derek Carr 123 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:22.519 is injured and Spencer Rattler has beaten out Jake Hayner 124 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:26.319 for the starting job in the game with Tampa Bay. 125 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:30.360 And that's Billy Rutli's team and our own. Mister Rutlige 126 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:35.279 will tell you Buccaneer Saints is a big rivalry. Saints 127 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:39.360 fans and Buccaneers fans, they hate each other. Former Wildcat 128 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:42.439 Karl Anthony towns now a New York Nick had a 129 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.240 bad shooting night last night against the Washington Wizards, but 130 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.160 it didn't matter. He ended up at twenty five and twelve. 131 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.279 He did go one for seven from outside from three 132 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:56.519 point land, including an air ball, and apparently when that happened, 133 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:01.160 the crowd groaned, but they gave him an ovation when 134 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:03.959 he left the game. After his twenty five points and 135 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:07.199 twelve rebounds, he was ten of eleven from the free 136 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:10.199 throw line. They know he can shoot, but he's the 137 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:13.160 big man. He's the inside guy, a post up player 138 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.399 that Julius Randall was not. Julius was at a times 139 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:22.199 face to basket, back to the basket power forward. But 140 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.720 the thought is that the Knicks have needed a true 141 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.199 low post presence and that's Karl Anthony town So maybe 142 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.639 he's that last piece of a puzzle for them. We're 143 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.159 going to talk to our New York City Bureau chief 144 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.799 Mike Sephaznik, super UK fan, super Knicks fan, coming up 145 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.159 in the next day or two. All right, on to 146 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.679 Kentucky football. Now, the Wildcats, especially on defense prepping for 147 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:47.639 a Vandy team that'll show you a lot, including quarterback 148 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:52.240 Diego Flavia and Brad White, talked about the challenge that 149 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.519 comes with a guy trying to stop a guy he 150 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:55.639 can do almost anything. 151 00:08:55.799 --> 00:09:01.200 Obviously, it starts, you know, with the quarterback, his ability 152 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:06.000 to one handle the offense. The multiplicity of what they do, 153 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:10.600 you know, that's a lot. And obviously he's been in 154 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:14.679 that system, certainly understands, he understands what they're looking for. 155 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:16.720 They stress you in a lot of different areas. 156 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:21.279 Kentucky did not have Maxwell Harriston against Olemiss and still 157 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.360 got the job done thanks in large part to what 158 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:27.159 happened up front. With a defensive line which is now 159 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:31.000 drawing national acclaim being called elite. They're going to have 160 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:34.960 to be elite in minimizing the damage done by Diego 161 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.399 because obviously what that does is make life better for 162 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.399 the back for they still got to do their job. 163 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:46.200 But if the d line can put the pressure on 164 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:49.960 Diego the way they did against Jackson Dart, who still 165 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.759 made some plays, but they forced him out of the pocket, 166 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:54.799 forced him to throw in the run, did not let 167 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.360 him get comfortable. They've got to do that against Vanderbilt, 168 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.360 and they got to do that with some young players, 169 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:06.559 with some new players, including Christian Story, senior defensive back 170 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:10.919 transferred in from Alabama and has played well, has made 171 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.559 some plays, and he talked about the fact that communications 172 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.279 in the back four, really the entire defense will be vital. 173 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.960 They've got to keep the quarterback from working his magic. 174 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:23.200 Yeah, I feel like he's a really big part of 175 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.559 the offense. And they all work together and play all. 176 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.399 You know what I'm saying. Everybody played on the same 177 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:29.320 page a lot, and we just have to execute and 178 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:31.159 everybody do our job on our hand, and I feel 179 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:33.320 like we'll have a res successful game, and I feel 180 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:35.840 like everybody's communicating and we're all playing as one, like 181 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:38.159 everybody's doing their job, and I feel like there's going 182 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:40.120 to be a big part of this game, everybody making 183 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:41.720 sure that we're on the same pain and everybody doing 184 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:42.159 their job. 185 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.639 Story is in his final year of eligibility after spending 186 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:50.360 his first four years in college football at Alabama. Red 187 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.039 shirted actually his freshman year, and then saw a lot 188 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.919 of action after that, played in just about every game since. 189 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.000 Started a couple of games as a junior, one again 190 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.960 against Chattanooga and one against Kentucky, And of course he 191 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.159 said he was as surprised as anybody by his former 192 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:10.480 team losing the Vanderbilt didn't dwell on it, but everybody 193 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.240 was surprised by that. I think if you held the 194 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.240 Commodorees down, they might have told you they were surprised. 195 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:20.320 But they followed the game plan just as Kentucky did 196 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.639 against Ole Miss, and not just that executed it perfectly. 197 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.639 And yeah, I mean perfectly is a relative term. Everybody 198 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.600 makes mistakes, but in terms of what they tried to 199 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.639 accomplish going in control the football on offense to the 200 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.519 tune of forty minutes of possession and keep from being 201 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:45.360 damaged terribly by big chunk plays on defense. Both Kentucky 202 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.320 and Vandy got it done in their last respective games 203 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:53.200 against Ole Miss and Alabama, and it may be a 204 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.679 bit of a plus. Obviously playing at home is for Kentucky, 205 00:11:55.759 --> 00:12:01.120 but having to face another mobile quarterback is a plus 206 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:03.840 I think for the Wildcats because they prepped for Old 207 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:06.039 Miss real well. I got to think they'll do the 208 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:10.360 same this week. Up next, angry betters are making life 209 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:14.360 miserable for college athletes and coaches in a lot of 210 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:17.240 different sports. Bottom of the Hour, Van Hiles on six 211 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:22.559 thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider. 212 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:24.600 Coming up in a few minutes, we will talk Kentucky 213 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:27.279 football with Van Hiles. Of coursemen are our favorites. You 214 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.039 hear him all week long, really on a number of 215 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.080 radio shows and podcasts, and he's just so good at 216 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.759 breaking down UK football. Former UK defensive back and George Plaster, 217 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.080 my old buddy from Nashville, will join us. George's on 218 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:46.080 TV and radio in Nashville for several decades and has 219 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.639 the greatest sense of history when it comes to Vanderbilt. 220 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:50.879 He's been part of their network on and off for 221 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.240 many years as a radio sidelines guy and the Playboy 222 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:58.399 play guy. At one point was doing Western Kentucky basketball 223 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.159 and TV. So George will join us and our number 224 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.360 two also Logan Salo, who is a Kentucky assistant baseball 225 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.639 coach and was a relief pitcher for the Wildcats. Spent 226 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:13.919 five years in the minors, but injuries curtailed his pitching career. 227 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:18.080 He was doing really well, was in the A's organization. 228 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:21.120 They traded him to the Dodgers and was just he'd 229 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:23.840 gotten up to Triple A but just couldn't stay healthy. 230 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.799 And we'll talk to him about his decision to retire. 231 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.879 But I looked up his minor league numbers. They were great, 232 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.039 not just good, but I mean great. And he's left handed. 233 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.600 I mean, if you're left handed and you have a pulse, 234 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.360 you have a shot at making it to the majors. 235 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.840 And so that just tells you just how extensive his 236 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.720 injuries must have been. But we'll talk to him about 237 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:48.840 that difficult decision to step away as a player from baseball. 238 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:53.159 And when he did, he came home He's an Ashland 239 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.720 native and came home to work for Nick Minngiona now 240 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.080 has been promoted to director of Scouting, so and of 241 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:01.600 course he's helping out with the pitching staff when they 242 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:04.279 talk analytics as well. He's in charge of that, so 243 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:07.559 that's coming up as well. In our number two, I 244 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:10.440 wanted to share something with you though that I saw 245 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:15.279 on the ESPN's website. David Purdham wrote a story about 246 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:20.399 angry betters angry sports betters, and according to the lead 247 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:23.720 in his story, it's one of the most common types 248 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:29.279 of harassment that college athletes receive. Evidently, it makes up 249 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:34.559 at least twelve percent of publicly posted social media abuse. 250 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:38.200 That's according to a new analysis conducted on behalf of 251 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:42.000 the NCAA. They hired an outside group called Signify. The 252 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:45.480 Signified Group, which looks into data science and the analyze 253 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:49.840 social media accounts for more than three thousand college athletes. 254 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:53.720 This isn't just shooting from the hip. Three thousand athletes, 255 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:59.320 five hundred coaches, two hundred event officials, and one hundred 256 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.600 and sixty five teams overall. During the twenty twenty four 257 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:07.879 college Football Playoff, Men's and women's basketball tournaments, men's and 258 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:15.159 women's college World Series, plus volleyball and gymnastics championships, and 259 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.159 it's out right now. The NCAA has published the full findings, 260 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:24.440 and they've released excerpts on ESPN's website starting on Tuesday. 261 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:29.159 But it's phenomenal. They call angry sports betters people who 262 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:35.720 I'm quoting now engage in problematic and intrusive communications due 263 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:43.000 to match events and results, contradicting betters predictions in plain English, 264 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:47.000 people who think they got screwed and lost money, lost 265 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.480 their bets. And again, this is the kind of thing 266 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.080 where you say, who didn't see this coming? Who didn't 267 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.919 see athletes getting abusive messages after games? But before and 268 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:03.799 during games? Games? Right? The survey listed sexual abuse, racism, 269 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:12.320 and homophobia as among other common harassment categories. But gambling, 270 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:16.559 they said. Signify analysts found some abusive posts did not 271 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:21.639 overtly mention gambling, but still it ties to betting. I'm 272 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:27.399 talking abusive or threatening messages referencing betting or match fixing allegations. 273 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.879 I see that all the time from Kentucky fans and 274 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.639 fans in general too. But all the refs have fixed 275 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.240 the games. You know when you think about what has 276 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.360 to happen, not for one individual. That's happened every decade. 277 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:45.000 There's been a scandal, a gambling scandal in college athletics 278 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.159 every decade at least since the fifties. But it's generally 279 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:52.480 one or two guys fixing basketball games, which are so 280 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.000 much easier to influence if you are a player with 281 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:00.240 influence who handles the basketball, who plays a lot. All 282 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.320 these morons who keeps saying that the referees are fixing 283 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:09.279 and again Tim Donaghy in the NBA fixed games or 284 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:11.519 had influence on games, and I'm not naive, I know 285 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.920 that can happen, but people indicate that they believe it's 286 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.920 the entire crew. The entire crew is fixing games, which 287 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:21.680 is just I mean, you think about the length of 288 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.279 a conspiracy and a depth that would have to happen, 289 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:28.839 starting at the top within the conference for that to happen. 290 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.319 You know so many people. I remember Roy Kramer is 291 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:36.640 making sure the referees don't let Kentucky win. You know, Kramer, 292 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.319 who was making six hundred thousand dollars a year, had 293 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:42.759 an incredible golden parachute and he wants to risk it 294 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.920 all to keep Kentucky out of the Independence bawl. Come on. 295 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.960 But we should have seen this coming, and many people 296 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:53.480 did that there would be abuse of players and coaches 297 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:58.240 and teams in general. When the betting picked up. Women 298 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:02.000 athletes have gotten fifty nine eight percent more abusive messages 299 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:05.519 than men, the analysis found. And you can't shrug it 300 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.599 off because as long as there are games, men or women, 301 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:13.240 there will be action, there will be betting. The issue 302 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:17.319 occurred even in sports less popular with gamblers. It's said, 303 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.119 including softball, we're twenty four percent of abusive messages flag 304 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:27.319 were from angry betters. Softball women's sport. Well, there's a 305 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:30.839 winner and a loser. There's a spread. That means there's action, 306 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:33.319 and that means there's going to be abuse. And you 307 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.279 know what, I don't know what you can do about it. 308 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:40.319 Probably nothing. You can be more diligent in chasing down 309 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:45.279 people who make the worst threats, but I think it's 310 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:48.039 only going to get worse. But you can dig it 311 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:52.920 out for yourself. Just google it, Google angry betters and 312 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:56.960 NCAA and I'm sure you'll find out a lot if 313 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:01.319 you're so inclined. And by the way, yes, artificial intelligence 314 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:06.880 is involved signifies using it to flag potentially abusive social 315 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:12.720 media posts. The tag athletes, coaches, teams, officials on all 316 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:18.799 sorts of social media Facebook, TikTok, Instagram X. Yeah, it 317 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.720 sounds like Big Brother, but quite frankly, it's really really 318 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.440 needed right now. All right, when me come back, we'll 319 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.039 talk football with Van Hiles, the former Kentucky d back. 320 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.000 A little bit later on, we'll find out more about 321 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:32.680 Vandy from a man George Plaster down in Nashville. That's 322 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:34.240 all I had here on the Big Moon Sider six 323 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:38.160 thirty wlap Welcome back to the Big Moon Sider, joining 324 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:40.480 us down our celebrity hotline. One of our favorite guests. 325 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.880 You hear him on Sunday Morning Sports Talk with Tom 326 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:46.720 Leach on Monday Morning Quarterback. He is become, he is 327 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:49.839 blown up. He is so popular. Van hois, former Kentucky 328 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.920 defensive back, getting together with us to talk about the 329 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:56.720 Vanderbilt game and of course the win over ol Miss. 330 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.920 How surprised were you? I gotta think a bunch by 331 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:03.240 Bandy's upset of Alabama. 332 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:08.559 Yeah, that that was in a moment, it was surprising, 333 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:12.119 But then I looked at some things at that game 334 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:15.880 later and it's kind of like our soccer Atlanta game. 335 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.759 Alabama's not gonna win that game. Alabama lost possession out 336 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:23.640 of possession. They had an illegal number on a punt 337 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:27.039 after they after they stopped them, they got a legal, 338 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.359 legal number, and that prolonged the drives they had rough 339 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.960 the passers. That prolonged drives like it was they gave 340 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.960 their off, They gave drives away to pick six, the 341 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:42.160 strip sack like nothing went Alabama's way in It was 342 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:43.920 just meant for Vanda to win that game. 343 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.720 This pick six happens in games like that. I mean, 344 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.599 you gotta steal points, you gotta steal possessions. But a 345 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.160 lot of that other stuff you described that was mental, 346 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:55.559 wasn't it. 347 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:03.279 Yeah, that that was man like as a player or 348 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.319 because that's not a player fault. That is someone on 349 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:09.400 the sideline's fault. That is like when we played Florida 350 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:13.960 years ago and we left the guy open multiple times. 351 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.519 As a player, I am thoroughly upset because coaches get 352 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:19.640 on us for making a mistake, but we can't get 353 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:21.799 on the coaches but when they make a mistake. So 354 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:26.079 that to me was just a just a the marcro 355 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.039 cosm of that game. Players messed up, coaches messed up, 356 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:33.799 the scheme, the discipline. I saw things on Alabama's defense 357 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.480 that I haven't seen in years. And I mean when 358 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.799 you have a captain that's kicking the ball and they 359 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:43.000 missed the play, but before that where he actually twisted 360 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:45.559 him and one of the guys running the ball, It's 361 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:51.279 like you cannot come that on Rado so much in 362 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:54.039 that game. I mean, I don't know, man, Bama's interesting 363 00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:56.680 this year because they haven't stopped anybody in six quarters. 364 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:01.079 Really, and meanwhile Vandy was good enough to take advantage 365 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:03.200 of it. How good is Vandy in your opinion? 366 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:06.960 I've had the pleasure of meeting Clark Lee at my 367 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:12.279 high school, and they are taking on his character. He 368 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:16.920 found a quarterback that matched him a lot. Plus the 369 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.720 guy played with the OC and the previous stop, so 370 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:24.200 there's some continuity. And those guys play hard, they play sound, discipline, 371 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:28.759 That defense flies around. They play like Clark played. That's 372 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:32.720 impressive for those guys to buy into it and play 373 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:35.920 like he played and play as hard and sound and physical. 374 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:39.240 Essay they have this year, they should have been a Missouri. 375 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:40.599 To be honest with you, they should be too and 376 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:43.279 oh in conference. So they are going to be a 377 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:47.160 major test for us, and I think that fortunately just 378 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:49.160 why we came at a perfect time for us to 379 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:49.720 get healthy. 380 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:52.680 Well, let's talk about the test, because it starts with 381 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:58.039 a quarterback with Diego, who is a troublesome guy man. 382 00:22:58.119 --> 00:23:01.079 I mean, got to keep him in the pocket. To me, 383 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:04.279 he's kind of a Johnny Manzel with common sense, that 384 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:07.519 kind of guy. How do you stop a guy like 385 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:08.880 that or at least slow him down. 386 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:13.200 I think playing Jackson Dark two weeks ago is gonna 387 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:16.279 help us because he extended drive. He extended the first 388 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:19.200 to open the drive which they scored on against US 389 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.160 two weeks ago. I think if they can kind of 390 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:24.480 repeat what they did two weeks ago, kind of corral 391 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:27.119 him a little bit. He is a better pass so 392 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:29.920 than people will give him credit for. The kid hasn't 393 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:32.519 thrown in a sception. I think he has about seven 394 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:36.119 to eight touchdowns, so he knows how to protect the 395 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:39.039 ball but also make big plays. That fourth and one 396 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.880 touchdown against Alabama. I don't think there's many quarterbacks that 397 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.480 would have made that play. The initial red was taken 398 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:46.680 care of, he came off the instal ree and threw 399 00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.920 a dot to the to the I can't remember the 400 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.440 guy's name for a touchdown. That was a great play 401 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.240