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and welcome to the six hundred and sixty second episode

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of the Geek for his podcast, I am the Bubba

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Speaker 2: By I am Frank taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: Yes, ladies, gentleman, is just us tonight because Dylan a

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couple weeks ago, very surprising, you know it didn't review

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bridge yet his old flame on ad armous new flame,

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you know. And then Kirkland was supposed to be here,

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like maybe by the time you guys are hosting Weekly

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to talk about Ballerina. From I know, I think it's

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saying Ballerina from the world of John Wick. But that's

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the last time I'm saying that, because I'm saying Ballerina.

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No more stupid title. Get what they're doing, but it's

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let's get in this, Taylor for in case anyone's new,

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give just like a quick elevator pitch of your thought

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the john Wick franchise also you know, spois, but just

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like a quick like where you are the franchise, and

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then give your non sports some ballerina.

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just getting that movie. So New Year, wasn't that like

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but John Wick and how that aligns with his timeline

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the greatest action movie of all time. Now, if they

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very small she's all over the marketing, but She's a

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charismatic and so fun. It's a breath of fresh air

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think here has nothing to do with her is I

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John Wick. And the problem is she's not Keanu Reeves,

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like even like a Catherine hawn Or. I'm trying to

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think there's things that no matter what, you can put

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he goes, yeah, like it's just great. Where hond armis

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is as far as acting, she is light years better

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have like that aura like and you can't that's something

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like Keanu and Nick Cage. That's not an or they

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natural something about them. So that's why with John Wick,

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make some faces because it's like, oh, you're just having

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Keana just fill up with that type of stoic chrisma

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where Onti Armist doesn't have that. And that's the thing

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where they don't give her a fun character. I think

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there's some writings like all problems all around, but just

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the character alone, it's just like another stole. It's just

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female John something bad happened to her. She's stoic. She's

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going through like similar issues that he is as far

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as deciding what she wants to do or not do

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and who to kill not to kill. She's like a friendly.

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but he'll have a line right even in this movie

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we see like he tries to figure things out first.

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like doesn't kill like one of the main targets. So

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it's like, okay, So that was my issue where it

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just felt too same. Where at least with that Cane

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spinoff coming on coming up. That character is very different

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than john Wick, right so, and even the girl that

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was the Japanese the Continental's daughter, very different, very more

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emotion filled and has a different journey, I guess, even

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though her journey's gonna be killed my dad. So we

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got a couple of those going on. So I think

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that was the problem with her being the lead. Was

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nothing to do with her. It's just they should have

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wrote the character to me differently. And then the other

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thing I was kind of hoping for was maybe to

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go back to basics a little more. And that's funny

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because me and Taya talked a little bit of the

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car where Tayla is more on the john Wick four

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training one some more like that, where I was wanting

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some or like john Wick won because they do. I

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feel like the timeline they set up with our character.

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I don't think she can't not be good at these

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things and kill a bunch of people and be very talented.

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I just think they made her john Wick for god

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tear as far as how she can fight and she

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can take out a room of fifty people, or like

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started as like, oh, it's a house of Asian with

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like six dudes, and it was like, okay, at six,

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it's eight, and then the finale's twelve. That's big, and

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then we got john Wick four. It's like he's taken

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on a planet pretty much right where in this it's

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we kind of get that journey right away or the

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first I get small, but then she's taking on dozens

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and dozens of people and in the timeframe they set

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her up with, it just felt kind of easy. So

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and I will say I hated that the entity was

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in this as well. No I'm joking, but d yeah,

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I was like, what, it's not as bad as the entity,

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but I did not enjoy the main bad guys. I

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think again, there's some things with john Wick two and

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three that I get there building the world, but there's

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just some things about the choices I didn't love, whether

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they felt too over the top or they kind of

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just it felt cheesy in a sense that was an

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easy get ed of jail free card just big, Well,

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that's how we can support a bunch of enemies coming

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at you. This did that too, where the reveal of

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what she's up against is something completely made up. It's

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a prequel thing where it's like, you've never heard of this,

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but this is the worst thing around. It's like, okay,

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so not even John Wicks bumped up against these people once.

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from the John Wick world and flesh that out, but

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they make a completely new, no pun intended entity for

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her to go up against. I will say, if you

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just like the John Wicks series, for just I want

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great action stuff and just to see gun fu. You

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want to see big explosions, you want to see and armors.

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She's not bad in it. She's just like I said,

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just I feel like she's a very charismatic woman and

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they take that from her, where John Keanu Reeves has

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a different type of charisma. You don't take it from him.

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But she's still good. She does like the fight scenes

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well she you know, not bad acting or anything. There's

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lots of connections to the world. Same thing. If you

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like a lot of you know, lore or a a

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lot of Easter eggs or cameos, you get a bunch

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of that in this film, from characters they've shown you in

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marketing and characters you haven't seen in marketing, so it

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feels very connected at least that way. So yeah, it's

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it's a thing of like would I want more? I'm

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like an and a sure I had a good enough time.

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But at the same time, if you said, hey, traps,

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so you can never watch this movie ever again, I

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wouldn't be like sad about it, you know, and detail

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asks would you say it's mid? I would say, like

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above mid because mid to me feels like that that

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sounds like a disservice because some of the action set

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pieces in here are really good. But as me and

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Taylor talking about even then, this movie is two hours

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and six minutes. There's a couple of scenes, but there's

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one in particular that I don't want to spoil. I

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think it's in the little marketing, but in case it's not.

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That just talking went on forever and it fell to

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the point where it say, it started really cool, but

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it's going on for so long it didn't work. And

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I wonder if they looked at like the stair scene,

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remember with Keanu Reason and John Wound chapt four. I

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don't know why I had to say killen Reas, but

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John chapter four, when he fights these guys in the stairs,

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he gets all the way, top gets knocked down, he

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does it over again. I think with that was just

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a better pacing and there's just something but like, oh

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my god. And they they do something similar to me

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in the third act where it's like all the stakes

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keep you havving risen, but just felt long and it

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felt like I'm kind of over, like the surprise factor's gone,

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where the stairs had something different. So yeah, like I'd said,

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i'd say above mid better and worse than john Wick

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Chapter three or bare Belm. That's tough. I'm gonna say

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the same. If yeah, for Taylor it's worse, I'm gonna

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say about the same. I am kinda funny enough. I

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did what Taylor did. I watched four. I do think

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I'm actually gonna go back and watch them all because

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I'm like in a john Wick mood now and everything,

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so I need to watch two and three again. But

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I remember not being the biggest fan of three, so

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I don't have I've only seen it once as well.

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I would just say same, which a lot of people

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are like Taylor, they've loved three, But I think I

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had a lot of like world building stuff that just

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it got a bit more cheesy where I think four

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has cheesy elements, but it was built a lot better,

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like just kind of bas so yeah, like I said,

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but if you want action stuff like absolutely, you're like,

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I don't care about the world building. I don't care

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to beout character art, which sounds bad, but like some

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people don't write if they just like, hey, I like

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seeing the big action set pieces, you won't be disappointed here.

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You got a lot of that here. So Tayo, would

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you recommend this to people? I would like.

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Speaker 3: If you uh for me personally? Am I gonna rewatch this?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: If I've made a john Wick mood, I'm gonna watch

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john Wick. Would I recommend this to other people? I

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feel like I would just to at least watch it

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just so you can kind of see other stuff going

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on in this universe.

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Speaker 2: I think that's important.

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Speaker 3: But and again and at Armis, I would definitely advocate

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for her too, because it's just great in the movie.

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Speaker 2: So mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. So if you don't want to

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be spoiled, we're going to take our first ad break

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mister Field, where do you want to start with the Ballerina?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the pacing of it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like this movie had some issues with that.

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I feel like, Okay, from the start, we get a

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very interesting and engaging intro, and I thought, okay, this

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just it's weird because when you're dealing with John Wick,

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you're dealing with a franchise that's just been focused on

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John Wick himself and other characters in Mob Boss's Clans, whatever.

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But you don't get to see really like the world.

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And I feel like, okay, we get to see like

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inside a police station. These cops are useless, like all

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these things that you're just.

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Speaker 2: Taken to it into account.

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Speaker 3: But from that point in time, we get a feels

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like twenty minutes of her as a kid in this

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intro introduction, and then we skip ahead twelve or fifteen

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years later something like that, and then we get another

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time jump of two months all these things just I

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don't feel like they necessarily. I feel like the only

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thing that really really fit was the first scene. I

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feel like they could have skipped ahead. We didn't need

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to see her first mission. They could have skipped ahead

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to where she's just doing the training because they started

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bringing things in that didn't matter. Her friend that just vanished, like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she didn't have what it takes.

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not family member whatever. It's like all these different things

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that are brought in and they're loose ends, and I

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guess their point is to serve as a development for her,

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but she's not growing from this, Like when she sees

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her sister, nothing's changing from that. She just has a

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moment save your breath, she dies and that's it, like okay,

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then we carry forth. So I feel like the pacing

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of things and then trying to add a little bit

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more backstory and depth to her with these scenes doesn't

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really work. And again I attribute that to the writing

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because she's trying her best. An Armis is really trying

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her best with these moments, but you can only do

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so much. That writing isn't there, uh, and the scenes

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aren't setting you up for success. It's it's gonna it's

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gonna be tough.

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I don't do you feel John Wick has much of

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a arc in the whole series. I think he has

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Speaker 3: For John Wick, I'd say, it's really just but you're

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there just for the revenge and just the yeh, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't need anything.

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most story to his world building. But Number one is

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him just Okay, this is a story. His wife died,

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gave him a dog, and I'm gonna go get revenge

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and kill this guy because he killed my dog and

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stole my car.

474
00:20:40,599 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think four is a little bit about

475
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,759
that because that's about like death and life and if

476
00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:47,319
you want to get out of the game and stuff,

477
00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:50,519
because he's trying to get out of there, right. So yeah, no,

478
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,359
like they throw a lot at you, because that's why

479
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,680
I feel like, to my comparison, I feel they're almost

480
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,640
trying to do a whole John Wick chapter four as

481
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,440
far as we learn a lot about the character just

482
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,039
so you can we can get to these bigger set pieces.

483
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,720
But yeah, like I think the opening scene is uh fine.

484
00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:10,519
You know, it sets up her motivations. It's tough because

485
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,319
again the whole you know, wife passed away from cancer,

486
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,279
leaves a doll. That dog gets killed. You can't do

487
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,279
that hook again, you can't make it a cat. And

488
00:21:19,759 --> 00:21:21,799
not that that's anything bad. Like Okay, she sees her

489
00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:23,759
dad executed in front of her, Well, I guess no,

490
00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:25,720
he gets shawn, he die. He still dies in front

491
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,440
of her. You know, it's a slower death.

492
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,799
Speaker 3: He gets sick, goodbye at least, you know, like he's

493
00:21:29,799 --> 00:21:32,039
a trained killer. But it really bothered me how he's

494
00:21:32,079 --> 00:21:34,519
going down the hallway shining his flashlight off on his

495
00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:36,480
fucking gun and then he gets hit.

496
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 2: They know where he is and they shoot him.

497
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: He might have been concussed, you know, some ctesick and

498
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,599
he couldn't remember his training. But uh yeah, So for me,

499
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,559
I it was a weird situation when they had the

500
00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:51,240
scene where she's in the police station and yeah, they

501
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,599
get this order. Yeah her dad was killed by this group.

502
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,200
We'll talk about later. She's there holding this ballerina thing.

503
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,559
You got lots of lower as far as about the

504
00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:02,119
mother and sister, which again will come back to h

505
00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:04,480
I found it odd, like I get they tried to

506
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,400
make it, like I guess it's almost like the Batman

507
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,480
thing right where Winston walks up right and this is

508
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,880
like one of our first first things we get. He

509
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,400
finds in the police station and they had this whole

510
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,480
conversation about like, oh, you know my dad, you know,

511
00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:20,559
he put himself in danger because he didn't want me

512
00:22:20,599 --> 00:22:22,039
to have the same life as him, and they kind

513
00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:23,680
of have some back and forth, and when he's like,

514
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,680
I want you to meet somebody, it's like, what a

515
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,839
move to be like this little girl who's like, yeah,

516
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,039
my dad sacrificed himself because he didn't want me to

517
00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:32,279
be a killer. And Winston's first idea is like, you

518
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,200
know what, I'm gonna introduce you to a bunch of

519
00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:36,960
killers and that'll be that'll happen for you, which because

520
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,400
even then later on Eve says like, well I chose,

521
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,559
It's like it's like yeah he did, but like because

522
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,559
someone kind of pushed you that direction, like what happened,

523
00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:46,640
You've just got like adopted by someone, maybe you would

524
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,880
go for revenge. I don't know. That's just a little nitpick.

525
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,400
Nothing really gets the film and get it so at

526
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,839
the ballerina stuff, and then you get some time jumps

527
00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:56,599
and I was hold down for that. I liked the

528
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,119
training of it. I like the mini you know games

529
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,640
they were doing is not games. I guess that sounds

530
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,640
a little too small for what they're doing. But they're

531
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,720
working on protection of people, so they're going through different

532
00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:09,039
rooms if here pomp through corners and roofs, which makes

533
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,720
sense because it's like, think about that top down shot

534
00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:14,279
we get of John Wickan chapter four. It feels like that,

535
00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:17,160
but you're seeing, like the behind the scenes version, you're

536
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,359
seeing her wrestle guys and they do like, okay, fight

537
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,079
like a girl, which that's something I don't mind. I

538
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,599
just felt like they didn't do that enough in the

539
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,759
overall movie, because the point is she's kind of doing

540
00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:29,559
some wrestling or judle with a guy and he's a

541
00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:32,720
bigger guy, taller muscle, and she just can't overpower him.

542
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,440
And then her trainer says like, well, use what you have,

543
00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:37,559
don't just try to match what he has, and she

544
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:39,240
gets the whole speech and says like, fight like a girl,

545
00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:41,359
so she guys be a bit more quicker. Of course,

546
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359
it means like she kicks them in the nuts and

547
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,720
then when the match is over, she kicks in the

548
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,519
nuts again, very uncalled for, but like I was kind

549
00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:50,480
of hoping for more of that. And other than like

550
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,000
a lot of like head scissors with her legs, I

551
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,640
didn't feel like it was like, oh, she has a

552
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,119
one other thing. I guess she loves using grenades, which

553
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,200
I thought that was a fun gimmick. But yeah, other

554
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,720
than that, it didn't feel like I was watching a

555
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,680
very different fighter than John Wick, which again I get

556
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,079
it because they do come from the same type of area.

557
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,720
But when they had that whole speech about like, oh,

558
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,160
fight like a girl, I thought, Okay, you're gonna see

559
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,480
her do a couple more things. I even like the

560
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,039
trainers like cheat take a cheap shot, Like it's like,

561
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:18,920
oh yeah, that's good, Like you should. It's life or death.

562
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,079
It doesn't matter if you're cheating. There again, that guy

563
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,079
was knocked out, she didn't kick him in the nuts. Again,

564
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,799
his the guy she's sparring with. But I think for me,

565
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,200
what the issue was that, So I think there it

566
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,119
was all working well. I think you brought a great

567
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,640
point with the friend. That was a weird subplot that

568
00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:35,039
like either.

569
00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: Don't put it, Oh, Ricky down.

570
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: It's empty, We're good. Just get the last drop there

571
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,200
in case, either don't put that in the movie or

572
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,079
dive more deep in it, because yeah, she has a

573
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,319
bedmate right beside her that. I like the montage as well,

574
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,880
for her spitting on her feet and they're just bleeding

575
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,079
everything like that, right, I think the montage I really

576
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:53,599
have no notes. I think it was all good. But

577
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,079
she has this friend I can't remember her name. But

578
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,000
the thing is she's just good at the dancing. I

579
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:01,599
guess like that that's literally what it is, like, she's

580
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,200
just really they say like, oh, you're the best ballerina here,

581
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,759
but not in the sense that they want. And I

582
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,599
don't know what they were trying to do. Maybe they're

583
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:10,599
trying to show that the ballerina group wasn't as bad

584
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,960
because one day, on a day Armist goes to bed

585
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,359
and the person beside her it's all packed up, the

586
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,400
sheets are gone, So I thought maybe they were trying

587
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,920
in anyway they might have killed her, So I'm not

588
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,559
sure if that's what the ending was for, because they

589
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:23,519
show on armous watching her dance, so maybe they're trying

590
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:25,640
to show like, oh they you know they didn't actually

591
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,400
go through with it, but yeah, it was and then

592
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,079
it was just dropped. That character was gone, never mentioned

593
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,960
again till the very end, and it was a weird

594
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,519
subplot there. But then for me it's like, okay, you jump,

595
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:38,880
which I don't know if the ages match up, but

596
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,359
you have the girl they jumped twelve years later. And

597
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,680
then she goes on her first mission, which we can

598
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,680
probably cycle back to in a second, which I like

599
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,119
the shots. I thought we were gonna get your guy there,

600
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:54,519
the the guy you liked doing the accent for Scott

601
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:57,240
Atkins when they went to the club really well, because

602
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,000
the thing is, we just watched four. The music sounds similar,

603
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,839
and in that club everyone's dancing a lot while there's

604
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,160
killing and stuff going on, and they never react to it, right,

605
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,319
So I thought that was gonna be another East egg

606
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,279
that we were gonna see in for a moment. We

607
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,960
didn't get that. But anyways, we go on this first

608
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,640
mission and it's like a bit more messy, right, it's

609
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,240
her first time. Whenever she gets the job done, saves

610
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,440
this target, and then we cut to her in a bathroom.

611
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,039
She's in like a chonk literally little black suit they

612
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:26,240
pay around this bathroom broken. It's like the Mission Impossible

613
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,680
fallout fight, Like she just did that right, It's a

614
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,160
mess in there. And then they showed two months later,

615
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:34,279
and for me it was jarring because I thought they

616
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:38,599
were getting her to a much powerful level. Then I

617
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,279
felt like, twelve months ago she was still good, but

618
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,200
still is like learning and struggling with some things. But

619
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:47,359
then two months later she is like tippy top, even

620
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,200
though you kind of felt that she wasn't tippy top.

621
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,519
So how'd you feel about the montage and how do

622
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:54,519
you feel about the time frame of her training and whatnot?

623
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:57,559
Speaker 2: I mean the timeframe of her training.

624
00:26:57,599 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: I feel like it was it was exponential, like because

625
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,400
you say, yeah, she took she does.

626
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: She does.

627
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 3: She takes out a whole town, and she takes.

628
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: Out like a lot, a lot, a lot of people.

629
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,799
Speaker 3: But I I feel like she gets They emphasize a

630
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,759
lot more time with her facing and squaring off against

631
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:21,160
like one person in some fight scenes like that in

632
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,119
the ice club and the one the threat to assessment.

633
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: I guess that threat guy.

634
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: He shows up, He's got like three of his goons,

635
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:29,920
and it takes her a while to take out the

636
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,039
goons and then she like fights the one guy and

637
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,279
he is like crazy, He's Scott Adkins level here right

638
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:38,599
now with this fighting style. So that's all fine and dandy,

639
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,480
But I just when she wins and based on her training,

640
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:44,599
like she's two months out in the field, I don't

641
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,000
feel like she's got what it takes like to hold off.

642
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,279
I feel like, Okay, well she's gonna get she's gonna

643
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:50,880
get killed.

644
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:56,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean she doesn't she makes it up.

645
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: She makes it up, she makes it out, and I

646
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,599
feel like, Okay, it's just she's extremely lucky. She because

647
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:04,960
there's so many situations where she's scaling on the roof

648
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,480
when she's trying to sneak into her target's room, her bedroom,

649
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,839
the bedroom of the hotel, and there's snipers pointed at

650
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,200
her and all that other things too, Like she's so

651
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,599
lucky that when she threw that box of grenades down

652
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,160
the stairs at the Ammo store, that she didn't you know,

653
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,680
she almost blew herself up and killed herself. So I

654
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,559
feel like there's a big luck factor in here.

655
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: There is one that one part of the grenade fight

656
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,640
I didn't like is when she had that grenade on

657
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,759
the guy's head, and she wrapped a towel from around

658
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:32,880
him and she like head locked him and then it exploded.

659
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,240
But they made it the sense that because she had

660
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:38,079
locked him in between a table and the guy, that

661
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:39,640
she was safe. I don't think that's how.

662
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,839
Speaker 3: There was a steel table, right, or was iron or

663
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,319
whatever it was metal, which there's like it would brace.

664
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,799
Speaker 1: It would brace, but she nothing really happened. It didn't

665
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,359
even move. It's just like the body exploded. But that

666
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:53,839
that's where being tear different on the luck factor, because

667
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:55,440
I'm in the same way that I think John Wick

668
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,359
gets beat up a lot, he has a lot of luck,

669
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,680
per se. I just thought about you, John Wick fod

670
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,759
that at one point he's dead to rights and the

671
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,519
Japanese cane down daughter saves him, and I like that.

672
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:07,920
Don't get me wrong, I don't think that a guy

673
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,519
that's doing all these crazy things should always just win,

674
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,119
because it gets a little unbelievable in the world that's

675
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,559
already unbelievable times. So I was fine with the luck factor,

676
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,160
especially because like the snapper, like you mentioned, like, yeah,

677
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,720
I guess, I guess she was dead to rights, But

678
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,559
anybody would have been dead to rights, right, they were

679
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:24,720
just they were letting the person get in there. They

680
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,599
wanted them to speak to Norman Retis, But you're right,

681
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,440
And that's where for me it's like, I still that's

682
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,079
signing john Wick. For me, it was more her taking

683
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,319
out like twenty five people, fifty people when they showed

684
00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:37,839
that first scene of the two month later jump and

685
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:39,559
she was in the suit and she went down like

686
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:43,119
three or four floors and there's just like not dozens

687
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,039
in the each room, but I'd say all together, multiple

688
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:46,960
dozens of just dead bye, dead boye. There's like a

689
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,559
car flipped over. It just felt too big and two

690
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,559
grandiose for a character. Where john Wick even then when

691
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:55,720
he's doing that, this is at the end of his run,

692
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:57,960
right like after in john Wick one, he's been retired.

693
00:29:58,279 --> 00:29:59,880
So to me, it's like I can believe this because

694
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,279
he has been doing this for multiple decades, right where

695
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,599
even though she's been training at this point, she's only

696
00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:07,079
been doing this for two months, like out on the

697
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:09,240
field doing this work. So that's the thing for me

698
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,079
where it's just like with john Wick, you could get

699
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:13,319
away with in the first movie instantly because you're like, oh, well,

700
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:15,880
he's retired and he was the Baba Yaga, like he

701
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,599
was the very best. Now i'll say this now because

702
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:19,920
I don't want to forget. I don't think I will,

703
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,160
but just in case, I'll spit out now. They do

704
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,720
later on in the movie have two instances where we

705
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:27,440
didn't talk about this in the prequel sense. They have

706
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,279
she meets John Wick. It's tied in with John Wick

707
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,000
three when he gets like the tattoo like burned off

708
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:37,160
his back or whatever, like he's kind of excommunicated from

709
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,880
the Ballerina family for you know, his tickets going or whatever,

710
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,119
and very like video game cut scene of just like

711
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:47,559
John Wick's going through it. I feel like in John

712
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,319
Wick chapter three, this has happened. She's like, hey, can

713
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:51,440
I ask you a question? Like it felt very like

714
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,519
all right, I get it on an Ormous is the

715
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:56,359
main character. But don't be wrong. I like that conversation

716
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,480
of you know, I want to get to where you're going,

717
00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:01,039
and you know, John Wiskins, well you don't really have to,

718
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:02,640
And she's like, how'd you know? And he's like, well,

719
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,480
like I didn't. I can't remember. I'm paraphrase because I

720
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,759
just saw this movie. But like I didn't know this

721
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:09,640
is what I want, but just the route I found myself.

722
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,839
And then he talks about like the doors open, and

723
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,759
she says something else and he was like the door

724
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:16,640
is still like just kind of insinuate, like you can

725
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,799
still leave this life before you get started, and I did.

726
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:21,720
Like when she goes, oh, well, why didn't you leave,

727
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,799
and he's like, I'm asking. I'm still trying to figure

728
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:26,839
that out. It's like good, like we didn't need uh

729
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:29,079
it ties in what happened with the other Joon Wick movies,

730
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:30,519
and we didn't need John Wick to have this big

731
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,759
moment and seen there, but that felt true the character

732
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,920
of you know, he's given this information or this advice,

733
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,480
but he didn't follow it. He made these same mistakes

734
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:41,519
but later on like well, we'll come back to the

735
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:43,559
cannon part of it. But he sent to kill her

736
00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:45,880
and they had this fight. What I did really appreciate

737
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,240
is she never won any instance, and three times he

738
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:51,119
had her dead to rite. There's one time when they

739
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,200
started to fight and then she's hiving me behind a

740
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,759
wall and he popped up with the gun and then

741
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,359
he stopped. And there's another time they started to tussle.

742
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,680
He gets her down to the ground. He has a knife

743
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,519
against her throat to slid it and he's stop. And

744
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,720
then another time where she goes to head Sissorum, looks

745
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:04,519
like she has the upper hand, then boom, he pulls

746
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:06,359
out a gun. She'd be dead. So I did like

747
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,400
that where because sometimes movies and shows will do that

748
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,599
where they go well with this new character. The only

749
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,119
way to make them seem important is what if they

750
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,240
beat like the hero we know in love And I

751
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,319
didn't want them to kind of like job about John Wick.

752
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,839
Just be like, you know, Balerna, she's really badass, but no,

753
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,279
John Wick. It's still showed that she was. He was

754
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,559
a level above her. But yeah, what were your thoughts

755
00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:29,000
of the use of mister Wick in this movie.

756
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: I mean, again, he was used just to help further

757
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:36,400
along her development and get some extra tickets sales and

758
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,480
get some extra tickets.

759
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it's John Wick.

760
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was definitely a little bit of

761
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,279
humor involved with him coming back. And I love that

762
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,200
scene when the train pulls into town and just the

763
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,400
smoke and everything and he steps out and the chancellor

764
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:51,759
and all that.

765
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh the bubba, yeah, go when he got

766
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,240
the training, he looked scary. That's what I love that.

767
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,559
I love when we get to see john Wick come

768
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,880
from other people's saying. It's not our perspective of os.

769
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,559
John wickt's other people when he got that train and

770
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,519
it was just like he was almost like a shadow.

771
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,000
It's like, yeah, he looks he looks scary.

772
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,039
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. But other than that, I think it was

773
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:13,920
it was decent enough. We only had the two scenes

774
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:15,599
where there was the start worrier.

775
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: She's just like, how do I be like you?

776
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: And at the end when he's got to make a

777
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:23,559
convince her and make a decision if he's going to

778
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,079
execute her or save her, and he's just a softie,

779
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:28,960
you know. He again, like you highlighted, there's some there's

780
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,720
some similarities between their stories and obviously he's just he's

781
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:36,359
seeing what she's doing and reciprocating it and running with it.

782
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was bully send to go there. And

783
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,319
then he's like, well, i'll give you half an hour

784
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,599
and it's just like, I don't know if you got

785
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,640
to explain the whole situation. But literally from the ballerina's side,

786
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000
they're they're saying, hey, we knew this girl killed because

787
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,960
if it doesn't stop, a whole war is gonna ensure.

788
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,799
And John Wick's like, well, let's give it thirty minutes

789
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,279
to find out, and like you would assume we've been

790
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:01,319
told this. He grew up with a lot of those people, right,

791
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,200
so he's just like actively putting these people's lives at risk.

792
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,720
You know. I did like the consequences lying when it's like, yeah,

793
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,639
if it's at twelve, consequences, so that was good. He

794
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,679
pops up a couple times on the snipers, that was

795
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,039
all fine. I still don't know, and this movie didn't

796
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,320
answer why he's there, because in my opinion, in three

797
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,960
to four that's so yeah. Remember that's when like Winston

798
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,480
shoots him on the roof and he's like excommunicato, right,

799
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:25,360
like john Wick like if you see me, he's supposed

800
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,000
to be killed. So it felt weird to have John

801
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,880
Wick in this movie in this scene as like a

802
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:34,239
contract because what happens is the I can't remember what

803
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,639
they called the town. We'll get to the villains here

804
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,719
in a second, but the films have a literal old

805
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,320
town of like a small city almost. They are like

806
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,079
another type of They kept calling them a tribe, which

807
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:50,960
I didn't like. I didn't like I didn't like calling

808
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,079
them a tribe because I feel like other john Wick

809
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,559
things are not called the tribe. But they have the

810
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,920
understanding with the ballerinas that they break all the rules

811
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,760
and stuff, but they still under staying like, hey, we

812
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,760
won't mess with you, you won't mess with us. So

813
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,920
he calls the leader and is like, hey, this girl,

814
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:07,519
you know, ballerina Eves, causes a lot of trouble. I

815
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,480
you're taken care of. If they go hey, we didn't say,

816
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:11,320
just that she's not with us, and he goes, doesn't matter.

817
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,719
If she continues, is gonna be war. So I just

818
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,159
don't know why john Wick helped, because I feel like

819
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,119
he has a lot of other things going on in

820
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:22,000
his life, so just to take this random trip to

821
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,199
go help. And what I thought they were gonna do

822
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,800
is I thought because they showed the moment where he

823
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,320
was brand and they took me pulled this ticket, I

824
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,039
thought they're gonna say, hey, but if you do this,

825
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,119
we'll let you back in. And then when he said no,

826
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,639
I'm not gonna kill Eve, then it's like, hey, you're

827
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,599
not really backing until the fourth right, because the fourth

828
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:40,599
when he has to go like, you know, kill Scott

829
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:42,639
Adkins and do all the stuff, I get his teeth.

830
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,480
I thought they were gonna give us some reason. They

831
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:48,119
really didn't like. I don't know, maybe he's just out

832
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:49,599
of respect. But the same time, it felt like they

833
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:51,840
had a poor relationship in three when like I said,

834
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,079
she brand him. I don't know. I do have to

835
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,440
watch those movies again. But this movie didn't explain to

836
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,840
me why John Wick who to my knowledge, between three

837
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,800
to four and I just watched four, he pretty much

838
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,559
on the run. Lots of people are after him. Why

839
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:04,920
he would come over here, I don't know. I digress. So,

840
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:09,159
but yeah, Keanu was no notes for Keana was exactly

841
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,599
when he was on screen. That's what made me go, okay,

842
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,639
I do want to rewatch the in chire John Wicks

843
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:17,159
series because it is it's that aura of him playing

844
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:19,400
a badass and just seeing Keanu do some gung fu

845
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,440
and just say consequences, yeah, gun, like that's what you're

846
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,599
looking for, right, And all those scenes are good. There

847
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:28,559
is a great moment where we'll get to later, but

848
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:30,960
he's sniper someone and then he has to work his

849
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:33,400
way down like a I don't know, like a clock tower,

850
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,840
per se, and maybe it's like six to seven guys

851
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,920
or something. But they have this moment where at the

852
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,039
bottom of the stairs there's two like NPC characters or whatnot,

853
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,199
and they're starting to rush the stairs and one of

854
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,719
them goes like, you know, we can't, like this is sudding,

855
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,159
we can't do it, or we shouldn't go up as

856
00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:52,119
Sean Wick. And then the other person goes like, it's

857
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,880
only one man. And the second thing that she says

858
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,079
it's only one man, he pops like corner boom boom,

859
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,480
just takes them right out. So and then I think

860
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:02,400
the move for the most had some like relatively similar

861
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,159
humorous John we was in Hit for the most part,

862
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,920
only there's bad jokes. I don't think it was funny

863
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,960
as some other stuff. And again some of the stuff

864
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,960
is Keanu's delivery as well is really good. But yeah,

865
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,280
so I think he was used the canon stuff. Don't

866
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,679
really know what's going on. Don't know why he would

867
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,079
go on this adventure. Maybe I'm missing something that doesn't

868
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:24,199
really take down my score completely, but it just is

869
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,159
like a an odd thing. It definitely feels like okay,

870
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:29,320
we've got to get john Wick in here to sell

871
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,519
some stuff. But he's great. It's great seeing john Wick.

872
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,119
I will happily watch john Wick one to four. I

873
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:35,960
do not need john Wick in chapter five. I know

874
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,519
that's what they're doing, but I don't need that, or

875
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:41,159
I'll take a prequel, happy with the story. But anything more.

876
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,239
I just talked about that scene with the two guys

877
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:46,639
and they or they get out the bottom of it's

878
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:48,239
just one guy. Oh but it's john Wick and the

879
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,079
boom boom Oh.

880
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: That scene cracked me up.

881
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,599
Speaker 3: But I mean, I love the I love the mythos

882
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:53,719
that's surrounding john Wick.

883
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: When yes, yeah, they're like, oh my god, it's fucking

884
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,159
john Wick. Are we doing this?

885
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

886
00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: One guy, and.

887
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: Like all that stuff, Like every time they say the

888
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,039
bubba yeah guy, I just get giggles.

889
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:05,199
Speaker 2: I just love it so much.

890
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: Anything else on john.

891
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:12,679
Speaker 3: Wick in particular, no, I don't think so.

892
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then after well, I guess we can go

893
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,480
back to Uh there's something I want to go back to.

894
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,119
But I guess we can we a tuple of these

895
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:26,159
villains because maybe all think about this, Taylor, what did

896
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:28,960
you feel? As far as so they reveal Okay, they

897
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,960
want to kill you know, they want to kill Eve's dad,

898
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:34,599
can nap her. In the first scene, they kill the

899
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,679
dad but don't get her. She escapes, becomes valery. You know,

900
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,880
we talked about all that. And then as it slowly revealed, like, okay,

901
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,519
it's a very bad tribe. It's a lot of bad people.

902
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,920
They have these ex'es like branded on their wrist. Then

903
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,360
it's revealed that they're not really like a criminal organization.

904
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:53,119
They are a cult. They operate, of course, outside the Table,

905
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,719
but Winston says, we'd rather have them pissing outside the

906
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,599
tenth and inside the tent. But they're pretty much this

907
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,079
just elusive thing that can do whatever they want. And

908
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:03,119
all the other places the Table not aren't going to

909
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:06,400
interfere because they're too powerful. And then they go as

910
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,840
far to reveal that they literally own like an entire town.

911
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,880
There is dozens and dozens of buildings and houses. A

912
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,800
small town still but still a town. Nonetheless, how did

913
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,280
you feel about our antagonists here for this one?

914
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it comes full circle when you see, okay,

915
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:25,599
they're responsible for her dad, and again it's where she

916
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:27,360
was born, where she grew up, and everything like that

917
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,159
it was in the town.

918
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: The town was hidden.

919
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: I guess this kind of just back with john Wick,

920
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,519
but it kind of racks me up when they're like,

921
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,039
unknown location, but we're going to give give the location

922
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,760
to you. At the head mother of the Russian yeah

923
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,639
ballerinas and she gets two people know, fucked fucking crazy.

924
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah.

925
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 3: I think I like the idea of the town and

926
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,159
everyone is basically a trained killer, and I thought that

927
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,280
was a lot of fun because, as you know, the

928
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,280
guy walks in there, and the guy ends up shooting

929
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,079
up the restaurant and trying to kill anondamus, and then

930
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:09,400
it's like, okay, well, this guy obviously looks suspicious, looks

931
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,000
like a soldier. And then all of a sudden, okay, no,

932
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:13,960
the cook, the counter lady is also in on it,

933
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,280
and then all of a sudden, the mom and that

934
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,199
little girl is in on it.

935
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: You're like, what the fuck, and it's just going, going, going.

936
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:21,599
Speaker 3: Everyone is in on it, and it's crazy, And I

937
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:22,679
thought that was actually.

938
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: A lot of fun.

939
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know, it was just it did

940
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,639
feel like we were spending a lot of time there

941
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:34,760
and I don't know how the main villain he didn't

942
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,800
really do anything super crazy for me, just a lot

943
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,239
of like, oh, i've we've been here for a thousand years,

944
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,000
like now the leader retreated.

945
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, like for very long time.

946
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:46,599
Speaker 3: It is the beginning of man, they've they've been there.

947
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the cavemen and whatever these fucking people

948
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,639
were called. I forgot what their name was. I should

949
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,599
have looked it up. But yeah, I'm on the other side.

950
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:56,519
I think obviously the action is still good there. They

951
00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:59,079
provide set pieces. Again, this for me was just too

952
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,239
big of and N three and two did this where

953
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,519
they'd introduce some things to Laura, right, I just go, ah,

954
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:06,559
I don't enjoy this or there, this doesn't work per se.

955
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,360
And this is one of these things too, Like I

956
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,440
don't enjoy that. There's like a every time that it's like,

957
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,039
oh it's try to call. It's more like a cult,

958
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:13,400
like they really want to hit you over the head,

959
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,360
like it's a big time call. But I felt like

960
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,719
other than okay, the entire towns are fighters. We didn't

961
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,960
see enough of this town for it to feel culty.

962
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,000
It just found like a big military occupied place, you know,

963
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:27,000
Like it didn't feel like they like we didn't get

964
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,880
to see the religions, but didn'tet see this other than

965
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,800
just I guess their feeling is you're not trained to

966
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,320
be a killer, you're born to be a killer. And

967
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:37,039
if they feel you're a killer, you're gonna live in

968
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:40,159
this city, I guess. And Eve's dad want to leave

969
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:41,719
a Norman Ritus who's in this moon for a couple

970
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,880
of coffee, want to leave with his daughter. But I

971
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,199
just feel like, why would you have a kid there?

972
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:46,559
I feel like you would know, like do you see

973
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:48,719
all these other kids run around being trained to be killers? Like?

974
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,920
Need more story with that? So yeah, this was one

975
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
for me that was too big. I wish it was

976
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:58,679
just criminal organization that is in a town but doesn't

977
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,760
own a town, and she's just trying to kill her

978
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,960
dad's killer. I didn't need the whole all the that's

979
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,519
a tough thing with John had done so much and

980
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:07,960
they probably felt, oh, just a revenge tale is too little.

981
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,599
But to me, if you write an interesting character, which

982
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:11,840
I don't think they really do with Eve, and you

983
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,079
got the good action, which I think they have, uh

984
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:15,920
so one for two at least, I think people will

985
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,079
still enjoy it. So I did not. It's not entity

986
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:21,559
levels where I hate the entity. This was just like

987
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:24,480
as the idea came up, and then as more and

988
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,280
more was revealed, I just checked in and out, like

989
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,960
more and more out again, kind of like what we

990
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,800
talked about the friend. I felt like they just didn't

991
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:33,679
give me enough to really care about this town. And

992
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,400
you know, then I get this good laugh where I

993
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,199
get what they're doing. They're doing the John Wick thing

994
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,719
right where you know, fucking get the dad killer. I

995
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,280
can't remember what was the villain's name, do you remember?

996
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,119
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

997
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: No, oh man, he's in the original Little Woman. He's

998
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,440
in tons of he's the dad and hereditary like he's

999
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,360
in tons of stuff the sky. I'll find out here

1000
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,079
in a second.

1001
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,519
Speaker 3: There was a scene when she was fighting too, like

1002
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:57,280
they were just picking up the place, trying to find

1003
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,239
the gun underneath, and there's taking turns like smack kind

1004
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,719
of gun or the place.

1005
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,599
Speaker 1: You didn't like that, No, it's.

1006
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,039
Speaker 2: Too comedic, too comedic.

1007
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: I didn't mind it. Again, I think he went on

1008
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:09,599
for too long. I think it was the joke was

1009
00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:12,559
gonna hit the nail of the head. Let's see if

1010
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:14,480
I can find it. He'd played Oh right, he was

1011
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:18,280
just the Chancellor Gabriel Byrne. Yeah, but the Chancellor, right,

1012
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,079
they never said his name. He was in it multiple times.

1013
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:24,239
But I get what they're doing. They're sending up Ballerina

1014
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,000
two where you have Now the ballerina is setting a

1015
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,960
bounty on her. But then he also the Chancellor being like,

1016
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,480
you know, st get in here. They're gonna come for you.

1017
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:34,559
But it's just like one. You're the Chancellor, so I

1018
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:36,199
feel like killing you. I guess there's always another. But

1019
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,599
the problem is he's doing this big speech, right, so

1020
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,320
he has Norman ritas is in this movie. That is,

1021
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,239
he is staying at one of the continentals. That's how

1022
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,440
Winston gets back in. Winston knew Eve as a kid.

1023
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,239
She's going from information because the ballerina won't say anything

1024
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,880
about the Chancellor's people, the cult, so he goes, Okay,

1025
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,679
there's a guy that's part of the cult. We don't

1026
00:43:55,679 --> 00:43:57,679
mess with them, but we do track them because they're dangerous.

1027
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,880
He's in Prague. She goes to Prague, gets information. He

1028
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,960
has a little daughter, so it kind of mirrors what

1029
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,639
she went through. Right, He's trying to escape his little daughter.

1030
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,960
That's what happened to her? I liked that. That was fine.

1031
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,360
He gets killed quotations, but then he's back later normal Redas,

1032
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,719
but he gets sewan. He's I guess saved for the sequel.

1033
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,440
But all this happens, and so she gets to this town,

1034
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:20,440
finds the Chancellor, et cetera. Right, and at the end

1035
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,760
they've kidnapped Norman Redas's daughter and she's now trying to

1036
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,400
save this daughter. So she didn't have a same life

1037
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,039
that she did. And john Wick and Eve have torn

1038
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,480
through the whole town, like when they have this face off,

1039
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:33,519
because she shoots out the tires of the Chancellor's truck.

1040
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,480
He gets out of the truck. The town is barren.

1041
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:38,880
There's not like a single so it's like they've murdered everybody.

1042
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,719
But he's like, they're all gonna come for you if

1043
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,719
you do this. They're not ever gonna stop. And it's like,

1044
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:48,440
who like this town? I guess so, but it's like

1045
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,599
either they're dead or they're all sleeping, which doesn't make

1046
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,360
sense because they're like get out there and kill the Ballerinie,

1047
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,639
like kill the Babba Yaga, like all this stuff. Like

1048
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,480
it felt very funny when they had killed everybody, and

1049
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,199
he's like, do you does do you want to come

1050
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:05,320
to this? If you do this, you know I'll like

1051
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,519
He's just pretty much like, I'll fuck you up. Don't

1052
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:10,400
like he's just it felt like a threat of villain

1053
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,320
would make in the middle of the movie or when

1054
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,320
she was tied to the chair, but to make it

1055
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,840
when there's literally like buildings blown out, their stead bodies everywhere.

1056
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:20,480
It looks like no one on his team is left.

1057
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,760
He's like, I don't know if I would do the size.

1058
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,119
He's like, what do you have to lose? And I

1059
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:26,800
did I enjoy movies when she did shoot him, like

1060
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,400
mid conversation, because I just feel like, am I for

1061
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,239
me if I was one of these people? That's why

1062
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,760
I wed doing I don't need the whole spiel. So

1063
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,920
I did like that she saves the girl, but.

1064
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,679
Speaker 3: Well, we didn't see what happened to the telescope man

1065
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:39,559
who was looking at the whole town with telescopes.

1066
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: He's still the guy. He's the guy that's sent all them. Uh.

1067
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,079
But yeah, So didn't really like any of this, and

1068
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:48,039
that sucks that they do a number two. I imagine

1069
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:50,280
this would be picked up upon because with those words,

1070
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,880
like Dayr said, I guess there's other towns or maybe

1071
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,960
people are fucking hiding in the pipes or hiding in

1072
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,159
the sewers. I don't know. But another thing we got

1073
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:03,679
fed was at the beginning of the flashback or when

1074
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:05,639
the movie started, Eave's dance with her dad and so

1075
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,039
he grew up so fast something some and he talks

1076
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:10,239
about her sister and they kind of insinuate the sister's

1077
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,400
gone or dead. There's this like, of course the right

1078
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,519
hand woman for the chance. It's very Star Wars, like

1079
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:19,400
very small universe. Like the one other female character in

1080
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,199
this movie that we know that's new is of course

1081
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,880
that's Eve's sister who's not dead. And it's crazy because,

1082
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,639
like when she let her live at one point in

1083
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:30,039
a fight, I knew that was her sister. She didn't

1084
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:31,840
even know at that point, but I just knew. And

1085
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,079
then later on, so they do this moment where okay,

1086
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,639
she gets there and Gabriel gives her the whole speech

1087
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:39,639
when she tide a chair like your dad was here,

1088
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,800
he left with you, your sister, and then he goes

1089
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,719
to his right hand woman. He's like, oh, you know, Fate,

1090
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,639
it's a funny thing I got, you know, your sister

1091
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:47,800
in the other room, and the sister actions is like what.

1092
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:50,599
And then after that Eve gets out, the sister chases

1093
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:53,639
her into like a higher tower building whatnot. They have

1094
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:56,360
a mini conversation which they don't even get on the

1095
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,639
same page about, because the sister's still like, well, at

1096
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,679
least in this town, you know, we're killers, and we

1097
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:04,400
don't judge each other for it. And then a grenade

1098
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,679
goes off. I thought, okay, and even though I actually

1099
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,800
did not like this character as a sister, don't know

1100
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,079
what was writing or the actors thought, I gave no

1101
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:14,239
fucks about them. The grenade goes off and they're trying

1102
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,039
to make a big moment where the cancler says, I

1103
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:18,360
kill them both, and when the guards's like, sir, are

1104
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,800
you sure they got to kill them both to signify, Oh,

1105
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,960
this person's been his right hand woman the whole movie.

1106
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,960
He'll just dispatch of her easily. So I thought, oh, classic,

1107
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:29,480
team up. They're gonna throw the grenade. She's gonna see

1108
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,519
the light because at this point she's still fully on

1109
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:34,039
the chance. The sister's fully with the chancellor of like no,

1110
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:36,480
like this is the life like you should join us again,

1111
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:38,199
like you're meant to be here, You're meant to be

1112
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:41,119
a killer. Grenade goes off. I'm like, oh, she's gonna

1113
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:43,239
have the moment. Then look, the Chancellor tried to kill you.

1114
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,079
He doesn't care about you. Nah, she just dies. She

1115
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,719
just fucking ties in a very anti climactic scene. To me, literally,

1116
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,079
if you just take out that sister storyline, it changes

1117
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:57,760
literally nothing about the movie. Yeah, like Anota Armas says, no,

1118
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:00,519
like even tho. They faced off a couple of times

1119
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:02,719
in this movie, but not in like a big dialogue

1120
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,519
way even Kno. Yeah, but then they didn't even have

1121
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:07,440
like a big action set piece right, Like they didn't

1122
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,679
have like a five minute like Monoy model fight. It

1123
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,800
just felt like a guard who like, oh, by the way,

1124
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,880
this guard, Yeah, that's your sister, and it's like, okay,

1125
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,159
here comes to velment. Oh no, we killed her. It

1126
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:19,679
that actively took points down for me because it was

1127
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,000
not needed when we talked about things. You could edit out.

1128
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:24,320
You could just take out that whole storyline, just say yeah,

1129
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,599
the sister died when she was young, and that's it.

1130
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:29,039
But what did you think about this reveal of you

1131
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:32,840
know Eve was tied to the counselor city, you know,

1132
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,800
the cult she was you know. The dad ran away

1133
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,159
and then the sister stayed there because she had already

1134
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:39,000
killed someone. So the dad apparently thought it was too

1135
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:41,440
late to bring along she was already twisted, which I

1136
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,800
think is terrible logic, you know, bring both your kids.

1137
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,960
But I digress. What do you think about some of

1138
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,000
this cult lower and the sister reveal and all that.

1139
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:50,519
Speaker 2: I like the cult lore. I think it's I think

1140
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:52,960
it's fine. I thought it was. It was interesting too.

1141
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: They just they're raising their kids there and they're training.

1142
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:57,119
Speaker 2: Them to be assassins of this cult and all that

1143
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,239
kind of ess. I thought it worked. I really did.

1144
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: The the stuff with the sister, I totally agree, though

1145
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,679
it could have been completely removed from the story.

1146
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: It just you.

1147
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: Get not even a three minute scene of them talking

1148
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:16,199
to each other and engaging, and then yeah, to be fair,

1149
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,400
when she then they announced that that was the sister.

1150
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:21,079
I completely fell for it because I had totally forgotten

1151
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:24,280
about the brief moment at the very start when the

1152
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,800
dad is like spinning around Anadarmus' is like young version. Yeah,

1153
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,760
that's the only thing that they said in regards to it,

1154
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,800
and so it completely went over my head.

1155
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: But they did it a few times with.

1156
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: These story introductions where like even when it's like, oh,

1157
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,079
you have to your final test you have to take

1158
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:44,159
and they sit this other former ballerina down in the

1159
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:49,280
ballerina is like I'm you in ten years, and it's like, huh,

1160
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,519
And I guess that's like a foreshadow of her being

1161
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,559
caught and having the bounty on her head or something

1162
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:57,519
like that. I guess, But even then, it would have

1163
00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,679
been cool to have a little bit more depth to

1164
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,480
that time because it just felt like it's gonna come

1165
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:06,119
full circle. But it felt like it was a It

1166
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:08,480
didn't put it in the right moment, you know, when

1167
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,840
there's a little bit of a foreshadow that's gonna segue

1168
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,079
into something that's gonna go full circle at the end

1169
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:15,519
of the movie, Like you can do it with a

1170
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:16,440
little bit more finesse.

1171
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: This didn't have finesse.

1172
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,639
Speaker 3: It was just this woman like angry and then she

1173
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,920
had the gun and anadarmis didn't shoot her right away

1174
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,119
and then shot her after like it's just weird.

1175
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is it's like a theme they go on

1176
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,199
a little bit, but not too much because they do

1177
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,599
that right where ok, it's a former ballerina, she's a

1178
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:33,360
test and it's like who can put their gun together

1179
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,559
quicker and shoot the other one. It was interesting because

1180
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:39,719
when the timer went off, the person that dies starts

1181
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,960
to build their gun right away, and on Ato Armis

1182
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,159
is just sitting there for like ten seconds thinking about it,

1183
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:46,159
but she still beats the other girl. It was very

1184
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,800
I was very confused about what was going on, but

1185
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,039
so they did that. They did the thing where Eves. Now,

1186
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:55,280
they didn't tell her about her like the killers there,

1187
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:58,119
but the same point, like I get it. I do understand,

1188
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:00,360
like that's parsecular, your father you want to know. But

1189
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,960
they had a pretty good point of like, hey, these

1190
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,639
people are fucking It wasn't just like we want to

1191
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:07,760
keep you here. Reason it was these people are fucking,

1192
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,119
you know, lunatics. We don't want to go to war

1193
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:12,440
with them. Like the reason they told them was not

1194
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:14,719
to like mess with Eve. It was just hey, we

1195
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,440
don't we can't afford the bloodshed here. And then what

1196
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,599
happens later on is Eve goes against her orders. And

1197
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,360
even though it's like a shitty thing, I still get

1198
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,480
why she would call John Wick because hey, this guy

1199
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:27,719
just said if she's not dead by midnight, he's gonna come,

1200
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,679
you know, and fuck like he's gonna kill us all

1201
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,239
like we're at war with this cult if we don't

1202
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,599
stop her now. So it's like, again I can see

1203
00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:37,320
the motivations of why the Ballerinas be like, maybe we

1204
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,760
gotta kill Eve. But that set, like you said, with

1205
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,239
the set up there at the beginning, it makes it

1206
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,440
feels like the Ballerinas are gonna be like the villains

1207
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,199
of the movie, right, Like that's gonna be the reveal

1208
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,320
that slowly but surely, which maybe could have worked better.

1209
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:51,079
It's revealed that oh no, the ballerina has killed Eve's dad.

1210
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,199
Everything she knew about them is wrong, and that person

1211
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:56,079
that she killed in her test, that that person was right.

1212
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:58,400
She she should have read into that earlier. But they

1213
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,840
do some you know things again our main character. But

1214
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,599
I would not call the Ballerins the bad guys of

1215
00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:05,119
this movie. Maybe the next movie. But even then, like

1216
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,159
I said to you, like, why did they even put

1217
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:10,119
the hit on her anymore? Like I guess it's just

1218
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:12,400
because again the counselors is like, there's many of us.

1219
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,800
So I guess they're just worried that the cult's still

1220
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,239
gonna come up to the ballerina, so they got a

1221
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,119
kill her. But it just kind of felt like the

1222
00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:21,639
Eve had won, but they're like, eh, just still put

1223
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:23,199
a hit on her, like it would just be better just

1224
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,079
like leave her alone. Almost Like I just it felt

1225
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:27,880
very that felt very much like we got a set

1226
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,320
for a sequel here. It's it didn't it didn't work

1227
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,719
for me, the bounty at the end.

1228
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,159
Speaker 2: You know, no, it didn't didn't for me either.

1229
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 3: I don't feel like we we needed it. You could

1230
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,960
have just had it very open ended, with her just

1231
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,440
being in the theater watching the ballerinas, and uh yeah,

1232
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:45,039
I don't know, it just it felt It's one of

1233
00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:47,199
those scenes that just felt long and it didn't have

1234
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,920
to be. But I always do appreciate a scene when

1235
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:53,199
a bounty rolls in and then you just you're looking

1236
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,679
and you're seeing the crowd, people check on their phones.

1237
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,199
Speaker 1: And stuff like that. There's like multiple guys there. It's like,

1238
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,360
I guess because the Ballerina show maybe, but it's just

1239
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:02,679
like they don't even send you a picture of ev either,

1240
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,199
you know. It's just like text. It's like she's like, really,

1241
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,760
word she gets at of it. It doesn't matter. They

1242
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,440
don't know what you look like. But yeah, so I

1243
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,440
imagine if we get it to that, i'llbeit where the

1244
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,760
two factions are hunting her down. I would like if

1245
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,760
we get a sequel for it to be after john

1246
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,239
Wick four because even in this, like she went to

1247
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,559
the Continental and it was still up and running. It's

1248
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:24,079
good to see Lance Henderson again because obviously he passed away,

1249
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:25,440
so it's great to see him again. He's a fun

1250
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,519
little character. But I'd like to kind of see that

1251
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:31,119
progressed there. But yeah, I'm trying to think of some

1252
00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:34,639
big action pieces to set out again. It's gonna sound

1253
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:36,159
like a negative so I hate to say it, but

1254
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,280
they I think it's inside of the marketing. They have

1255
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,840
this great set piece with a flamethrower. The problem is

1256
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,199
it just goes on a bit too long. It starts like, oh,

1257
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,639
this is really cool, but you see on armists like

1258
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,400
jump through multiple walls. I think you just gotta cut

1259
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,760
some of them and then got to like the fire

1260
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,159
hose versus the fire extinguisher, and even they do like

1261
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:55,519
stuff like the guy she has a fight like they

1262
00:53:56,039 --> 00:53:58,119
She has a flamethrower, another guy's a flamethrower. At one

1263
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:00,400
point he gets his foot on fire and I get

1264
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,880
it the tray to make them badass, but he's fully

1265
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,320
just fighting Eve while his foot's on fire, and it's like,

1266
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,519
I get at the same time, like you'd still been

1267
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:07,840
a lot of pain. It doesn't matter if you're a

1268
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,599
ballerina or John Wick, like you still want to put

1269
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:12,159
that fire out. But he's just like like Aura, framing

1270
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,480
and fighting and it's like, okay, so again I agree

1271
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,480
with you. Like the I didn't like the whole city

1272
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:20,119
fight because that was just more of like, oh, this

1273
00:54:20,199 --> 00:54:22,239
is a whole town taking over. I didn't enjoy that.

1274
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,400
I liked the club stuff that for a first mission.

1275
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,320
I liked the setting, the score, and I liked that

1276
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,679
it was a little dirtier because it was her first

1277
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:33,559
time whatever one. And I like the actual John Wick fight.

1278
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:35,039
That was good. I'm trying to think what else am

1279
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:36,360
I gon say? I feel like I gotta be missing

1280
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,360
something in the middle there too of another fight scene

1281
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:46,760
when we introduced her, not much because they're all dead already,

1282
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:49,719
is it not one?

1283
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

1284
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: I guess I heard normories at the hotel, which I

1285
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,519
thought that was fine. I didn't know there was anything.

1286
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,360
I guess there's more like some gross up moments where

1287
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,519
like a glass wall gets broken, there's like some shards

1288
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,360
pointing out. She goes like, there's like a scene where

1289
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,039
her and the other girl trying to put their faces

1290
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:04,679
in it. But then there was a weird scene where

1291
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,679
they're fighting and she just like speared her through a table,

1292
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:10,199
and I felt like this didn't feel like how she's

1293
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,800
been fighting the rest of the movie. I would have

1294
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,800
been fine if the whole movie she was very scrappy,

1295
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,480
but many times she's like very finesse. But I'd say

1296
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:19,119
the best scenes was probably the last one, even though

1297
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:21,000
it went too long. I like the John Wick one,

1298
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:28,480
and then I think those are the two highlights from

1299
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:30,400
me and overr the opening club ones. I'd say those

1300
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,800
were my top three. But would you feel like the

1301
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,840
action any action scenes you want to shout out?

1302
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean you mentioned that the fire hose

1303
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,039
and the flame dower that was pretty cool, and so

1304
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:41,760
the flamethrower stopped with Anna Dharamas was pretty awesome. But

1305
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:48,000
uh hmmm, gosh, to think though about like some of

1306
00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:54,360
the other actions that they had, And here we didn't

1307
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,599
get to see her going into that penthouse at the

1308
00:55:56,599 --> 00:55:58,519
beginning of her twelve year jump, but that would have

1309
00:55:58,519 --> 00:55:59,119
been kind of cool.

1310
00:55:59,159 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: I guess the two.

1311
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 3: Months two wants jump, but that would have been neat

1312
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,320
to see how she took out that the whole like

1313
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:11,599
pentheses above the party kind of crowd. But yeah, just

1314
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:15,239
the fight scenes like they don't feel like, well, that's

1315
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,800
about it. The fight scenes don't necessarily feel how that

1316
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,440
same level as what john Wick does. And after seeing

1317
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,159
a john Wick four that like dragon casing, fletch it

1318
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,559
shotgun scene like top down, like how do you top

1319
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:30,639
something like that? You just throw in some flamethrowers of

1320
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,559
people doing barrels around the fire and stuff like that.

1321
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like I said, I thought the action was

1322
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:40,920
I can't say I think it was like up to

1323
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,480
snuff as far as like it feels like john Wick

1324
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:46,760
and the world, but also never got too high. I

1325
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,719
do think the flamethrower thing is a good step piece.

1326
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,400
I do think that if that was just shorter, maybe

1327
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,280
it would be more positive on it because it is fun.

1328
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,119
I think the finale it's fun where she has the

1329
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:57,840
water Hose and Yun. I love that, Yeah, and I

1330
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,639
think that's going. There's great moments where some guys like

1331
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:02,000
Sneaker in the corner and she has the flame throwing

1332
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:03,679
them with the other arms, she's like shooting the gun.

1333
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,079
So it's like, yeah, that was cool. I like she

1334
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:07,000
had to the flamethrower thing on and the club just

1335
00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:09,599
like visually looked cool. Like anytime you can have a

1336
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,599
colorful club scene, I'm I'm pretty a sucker for that.

1337
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:15,320
And uh yeah, like I said, the john Wick one,

1338
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,079
I like that from a story perspective. So did feel

1339
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:20,599
a little lesser then, But it's you know, it's tough

1340
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,079
because that's different directors. That's also Keonu who's been doing

1341
00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:26,000
all that for a long time, and just certain just

1342
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,639
choreography and set pieces that you know didn't stand out

1343
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:31,559
like to me, like in john Wick four, there's multiple

1344
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:34,320
as far. It's like like it's tough because like that

1345
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,280
town was fine, but you're never gonna live up to

1346
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,559
like the Japanese Continental, right, like that set piece is massive,

1347
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:42,480
or even like the shootout on the Paris you know

1348
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:45,119
by the Eiffel Tower or the stairs or the top

1349
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:47,119
down one. It's like that's the problem with John Mick four.

1350
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,159
Usually it's like, okay, we have one massive set piece

1351
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:51,599
in here. John Mick four had like four or five

1352
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:54,840
where it's like this is fucking great. So yeah, nothing

1353
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,039
to that scale. But again that's where for me as

1354
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:00,000
something you might go, oh, you want it smaller. To me,

1355
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:01,719
I meant in the scale as far as it felt

1356
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,360
like they were bigger, but I didn't feel like it

1357
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,360
had the same gravitas as the other one. So that's

1358
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,199
why I actually wish they just went smaller and kept

1359
00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:09,960
it smaller and then focused on that and then do

1360
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:12,719
one big stet piece, which I'd say would be the flamethrower.

1361
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:14,519
But again, not bad. I think there's like, you know,

1362
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:16,760
great kung Fu or gung Fu. I think all the

1363
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,920
you can see on arms doing a law of the

1364
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,000
stunts and everything. So I still think it's all serviceable,

1365
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,639
good fun John Wick type of action stuff, just might

1366
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:27,000
not be tippy top or have like a tippy top

1367
00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:29,840
sequence like Unfortunately, there's nothing here that I could say

1368
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,960
for best scene, where like John Wick four, we had

1369
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,320
to argue about that, right, But even then, like for me,

1370
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,679
chat on John Wick Chapter two and three, there's some

1371
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,559
sequences I like in there, but nothing that super stood out.

1372
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:41,800
But I think I think there was like that Mirre

1373
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,360
room in john Wick three. But yeah, anything else in

1374
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,880
particular that we haven't talked about. We talked about some

1375
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,840
of the action about john Wick, talked about the villains,

1376
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,559
talked about Eve, Uh, talk about home retis. He's alive.

1377
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,199
I can see he'll be there for a sequel. They

1378
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:57,599
need him.

1379
00:58:57,679 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: You know, I thought he was dead for sure when

1380
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,559
he got stabbed in that death scene.

1381
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I no reason for them to leave him alive.

1382
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,199
But you know they did so good for uh Norman

1383
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:10,480
Redaz's character who can come back, and I imagine which

1384
00:59:10,519 --> 00:59:13,559
is good. He'll like, oh, Eve right, because he say

1385
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:16,800
she saved her life and also his daughter's life. So yes,

1386
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:20,159
in the future, it's like, okay, when she needs somebody,

1387
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:22,039
it's kind of like when John Wick need Winston or

1388
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:25,000
Lawrence Fishburne or stuff. It's like, okay, built in kind

1389
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:26,760
of I owe you. You save my daughter, so I'll

1390
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,519
come help you out.

1391
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:30,119
Speaker 3: So you got to get just blood pendent thing, right.

1392
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:33,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could get that right. I would think that's true.

1393
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:35,960
He saved she saved his daughter's life, you know, And

1394
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,199
I like Normous he had one action scene. I'd like

1395
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:40,960
to see more because norm Reda's is Norman Ritas has

1396
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,480
like a very Keanu Nick Cage thing where he just

1397
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:45,599
has like a type of vibe about him, right, not

1398
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:47,800
the greatest acting the world, but says a vibe. But yeah,

1399
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,400
so he's in here for a small amount. But that's all,

1400
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,280
like just saying. With the john Wick characters, Winston has

1401
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,960
a couple scene. His concierge is a couple of scenes. Yeah,

1402
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:01,880
and john Wick is couple of scenes. But trying to

1403
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,440
think of there's anything else, anything else you can think

1404
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,280
of the show to talk about.

1405
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:06,559
Speaker 3: I liked I can't remember if you should this already.

1406
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:08,599
But in the scene where she was at the other

1407
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:13,639
concierge or Continental and she ends up she's just outright

1408
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,199
held hostage by the concierge there.

1409
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,679
Speaker 2: It's like I didn't uh, I didn't kill anyone.

1410
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: I didn't kill anyone, and the other girls like, yeah,

1411
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,880
that's a lie. It's like whoa, Like they just execute

1412
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,559
the two others and just took her word for it, and.

1413
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:29,079
Speaker 1: I take it they had to have cameras. That's how

1414
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:31,880
I for them being so sure. I took it as

1415
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,519
this this continental has cameras. It's like, yeah, we saw,

1416
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,119
so that's why. And I did that's one company because

1417
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:39,639
I did like when they execute this two other people

1418
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,920
and he looks at you, He's like, I think it's

1419
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,360
time to check out, you know, And that was like

1420
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,760
a good little there. So all takes a couple of cameras.

1421
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,360
And if they can't see that she killed anybody, you

1422
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,079
gotta take her.

1423
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,119
Speaker 3: By her word, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1424
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: That's that's all I got. That's all I got.

1425
01:00:55,199 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Taylor, what would you rate this?

1426
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,079
Speaker 3: Oh? You know, like I already said before, I like

1427
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:10,880
the other I like the other john Wick films over

1428
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,039
this And if I'm gonna go and get a craving

1429
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:15,519
for John Wick, I'm gonna I'm gonna be popping this on.

1430
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,199
So I'm not popping this on, popping John Wick on.

1431
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,679
So I just feel like the writing could.

1432
01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: Have been done better. And I'm not overly over the.

1433
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: Moon for them to be doing a follow up to

1434
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,599
this or a sequel. I think, okay, like she's just

1435
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:32,320
she's on the run. That's just gonna be segueing into

1436
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:35,920
what John Wick three that we've seen with john Wick

1437
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,599
kind of being executed and on the run. Yeah, like

1438
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:40,199
if she's got the bounty now and she's on the

1439
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,000
run from it apparently from the end of this movie,

1440
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:44,760
and it's like, Okay, well now we know where this

1441
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,679
is going. We've seen this before with john Wick himself, so.

1442
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: I think the problem, yeah, it's and I think the

1443
01:01:49,519 --> 01:01:51,519
problem with this is it's like the Ethan Hunt thing

1444
01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:53,800
where they didn't say she was exking me to call

1445
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,480
in this movie, but it already felt like that, right

1446
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:59,079
because the ballery and there's tons of people at least

1447
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:03,079
I think, like, yeah, you know Vallerina's and the cult

1448
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:05,280
people coming. I guess the only thing you could do

1449
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,239
with this to make it somewhat different is and some

1450
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:10,199
people might not like it, but is semi like leon professional,

1451
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:12,039
Like that'd be another hook of her with this kid,

1452
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:15,000
and she's training this kid to be a killer. We've

1453
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,320
seen people trained, but we never see John Wick have

1454
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,079
like an apprentice, right, So to me, that's that's kind

1455
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:23,559
of the spin I would try. And it could go

1456
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,400
terribly because like kids in action movies in Radar could

1457
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,559
feel cheesy, But I feel like that's how you try

1458
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:31,400
to make yourself different. But you know she will happen.

1459
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,599
She'll probably just get kidnapped and evil be like, I

1460
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:35,679
gotta get her back, you know, like what, Oh well, no,

1461
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,119
I guess no, she's with I'm already wrong. I forgot.

1462
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:41,679
I forgot norm Maria's was alive. I talked about it. Yeah,

1463
01:02:41,719 --> 01:02:44,119
so she's back with those dads. She actually wouldn't be

1464
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:46,920
with Eve. So yeah, I just feel like we're just

1465
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,880
and I guess that's the thing when john Wick's dead, right,

1466
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,679
you can't do those So I think they're just trying

1467
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:52,400
to how come we do more john Wick type of stuff?

1468
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:55,039
But he's dead? So we got the ballerina, you know.

1469
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,639
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, Sorry, did you drop a number?

1470
01:02:58,679 --> 01:02:59,159
Speaker 1: Did I miss that?

1471
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:00,199
Speaker 3: No?

1472
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:00,559
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1473
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, what would I give it? I know john

1474
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,920
Wick four was an easy ten out of ten.

1475
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:10,159
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but this one.

1476
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: I wish I could remember when I gave the like one, two,

1477
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,239
and three all probably still pretty high. I and I'm

1478
01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:20,880
I am my worst enemy because I went in here

1479
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:23,679
with the preconceived notion that this is gonna be along

1480
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:25,880
the lines of like john Wick four, we're gonna have

1481
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,639
it on par they're gonna be trying to top it.

1482
01:03:27,639 --> 01:03:29,280
We're going some crazy shit, but like you said, we

1483
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,880
had a different director and all that jazz.

1484
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,599
Speaker 2: Uh So I'm gonna probably go and give this a.

1485
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: I'll give it a six out of ten because I

1486
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,639
still had a good time. I still had fun with it.

1487
01:03:39,719 --> 01:03:43,079
But it's not like Over the Moon anything to rave

1488
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,039
home about.

1489
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:47,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of with there with you there, I'm

1490
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:49,440
like a point five hard so I'm six point five.

1491
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:52,000
But uh yeah, I liked it enough. I did not

1492
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:54,440
feel that while I was there's like, man, I really

1493
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,679
regret my time here. But at the same time, I

1494
01:03:56,719 --> 01:03:58,599
wasn't like, man, I'm dying to see this again, like

1495
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:00,559
with John Wick Chapter four. I was Jong Wick Chapter

1496
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:03,159
one or just any other like movies this year, right,

1497
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,119
And that's fine, that could happen, And that's where like

1498
01:04:06,159 --> 01:04:09,519
I'll check out a sequel just to see if they

1499
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:11,639
do this. But I think if a sequel is kind

1500
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:13,400
of similar where that's like if it doesn't improve and

1501
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,679
it's like another six six point five, I think that's

1502
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,519
why I go, Okay, maybe I'll you know, catch like

1503
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,519
the next one on VOD or something like that. But yeah,

1504
01:04:21,559 --> 01:04:25,559
almost you know, do their best here with like a

1505
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:28,480
very light script, and like I said, people are like,

1506
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,880
oh well, john Wick is always like script I know again,

1507
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,519
but you got to do something different and just making

1508
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,679
female john Wick didn't really do it for me unless

1509
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:38,239
it's John Wick's daughter and they didn't go that roll

1510
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,199
because he has no kids. Some good action set pieces,

1511
01:04:41,239 --> 01:04:42,920
but some that went too long. I think the movie

1512
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,159
in general is too long because I was talking to

1513
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,599
him in the car and I was like, oh yeah,

1514
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:47,840
I guess like an hour and a half. You couldn't

1515
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,880
cut it, but it did feel long. Great. When I

1516
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,480
looked at two o six, I'm like, yeah, I think

1517
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,280
there's like a good maybe fifteen to twenty you could

1518
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,800
cut there, but still enjoyable enough. Don't know if I'll

1519
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,320
ever we watch this again. U. So that's why I

1520
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,599
think like a six point five where I enjoyed my

1521
01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:06,800
time for what it was, but it wasn't anything that

1522
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,840
memorable and you know, definitely not gonna be on my

1523
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,079
golden geeks anywhere. And that's that sex too, because not

1524
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:13,760
either like the best scene or best film, it's just

1525
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,800
kind of just kind of came out. It was definitely

1526
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,960
because that's the thing that was streaming. Not to knock it,

1527
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,679
because there's tons of great stuff, but I feel like

1528
01:05:21,159 --> 01:05:24,199
action movies on streaming nowadays are very poor. It feels

1529
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:26,559
like they're just made very cheaply. And she's like, oh,

1530
01:05:26,679 --> 01:05:28,360
people love actions, so put that in there. There's a

1531
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,480
couple that go past most time. I felt those are

1532
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,760
some of the worst type of streaming movies where this

1533
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,719
is nowhere near that level. It's just also not like

1534
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,599
a like a great time, it's just an okay time.

1535
01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:41,760
So yeah, six point five, I find uh, that's where

1536
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,199
I'm settling. So yeah, not sure when we'll be back.

1537
01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:47,000
Next to the john Wick world. I know they were

1538
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,119
making the Cane movie. I know they're making that anime

1539
01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:52,800
prequel of the john Wick's Last Job. They're supposedly June

1540
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,000
john Wick five with a plot you won't believe, and

1541
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:57,320
I don't want that. So we'll see what happens there,

1542
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,199
and then we'll see what happens after the next couple

1543
01:05:59,239 --> 01:06:01,679
WEEKDS if Ballery gets a sequel or not, because usually

1544
01:06:01,719 --> 01:06:04,199
they make these things for smaller budget. And again where

1545
01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:06,679
it's so I said, I'm in the sense where I

1546
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,320
liked it enough I would give it another shot. But

1547
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,079
if not a big improvement, I'd probably kind of check

1548
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:13,760
out then, or would you be wanting a sequel or

1549
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,039
you already checked out on.

1550
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: A But I don't feel like I need a sequel.

1551
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,280
I feel like I'm checked out. But that being said,

1552
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:22,800
if it's there, I'm gonna watch it and maybe they'll

1553
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,360
do that escalation like the other john Wick movies have

1554
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,960
where like you said, the first one, you know, it's

1555
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,960
ten guys, the next one it's twenty five, it goes

1556
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:29,480
up up.

1557
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 2: Maybe the next one here it's gonna be dude. They

1558
01:06:33,719 --> 01:06:34,679
Well did.

1559
01:06:34,519 --> 01:06:37,719
Speaker 3: They go during john Wick four? Post John Wick four?

1560
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: I would hope so, because then it's like it's a

1561
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,320
non prequel world where it's like, oh, what's going on

1562
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,039
in the john Wog? Like the table everything right? So

1563
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:49,360
mm yeah, well, lea seoan, we have done it. Let

1564
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,679
us know when the cons below in our discord Patreon wherever,

1565
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,679
YouTube your thoughts, anything we might have missed, anything that

1566
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:57,519
you think that was a critique that didn't make sense.

1567
01:06:57,559 --> 01:07:00,800
You want more, you know, questioning on it. Well, that's

1568
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,920
why the discords for love talking. And I'll be excited

1569
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,559
to see what other people think about this one, but yes,

1570
01:07:06,159 --> 01:07:08,480
whenever you hear was next, you'll not be boring.

1571
01:07:09,239 --> 01:07:09,679
Speaker 2: Bye bye,