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Speaker 1: What is my distinct pleasure to be joined on the

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podcast this week by the legendary eighth division worlds champion,

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Hall of famer, the great Many pack Out and Manny.

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I didn't expect to be doing another interview with you

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prior to a fight, but you have decided to exit

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your retirement after four years. You are back in the

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United States to take on Mario Barrios, the challenging for

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the WBC welth theweight world title, to take place July nineteenth,

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alive on Prime Video, pay per view and PPV dot Com.

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Pretty much your second home, the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

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So thank you so much for doing this, Many, and

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I guess welcome back.

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Speaker 2: To thank you for this fortunate and I'm bout you're back.

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Speaker 1: So I guess the first question. I know you've been

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asked this since you've made this decision, as you've gone

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through the training camp and been preparing for the fight,

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But this simple question is what was your motivation and

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why did you decide to exit your retirement come back

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to the boxing ring.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I think it's because of my passion, my

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passion of boxing and I still have that fire in

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my in my heart, in my mind, my eyes, to

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work hard and excuse to work hard and discipline.

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Speaker 3: I love.

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Speaker 2: I missed those days that you know, during trainingcome promoting

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the fight like that, like this interview with media like that.

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Speaker 4: So I missed those days.

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Speaker 1: There are some people that and I understand what you're saying.

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You know, it's hard to give up, I guess. But

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some have suggested that it's financially motivated, that many Pack

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needs the money and he's only coming out of the

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retirement because he wants to get a big paycheck. Can

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you address that? Is that true? I'm sure that money's

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part of it, but I don't know if I believe

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it's the whole part of it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just selling this. Like the first motivation is like,

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I want to be a champion again. I wanted.

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Speaker 1: Eight times, wasn't enough.

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Speaker 2: No, I want to break my record like the oldest.

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Speaker 1: Well they been you've already been the oldest welterweight champion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to break my own record and also

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uh uh to put a new record for being ah

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after Hall of Fame inductee Allardy.

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Speaker 1: So so that that's my next That was my next question.

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First of all, congratulations on your Hall of Fame induction,

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it was my my great pleasure to vote for you. Uh.

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There there have been there have been a few fighters

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who have been inducted into the Hall of Fame who

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have then later decided to come back and fight Sugary

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Leonard as a great example for one, and there are others.

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But it has never happened where a person has been

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inducted into the Hall of Fame and before they even

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had their induction already had another fight schedule. So when

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you were doing the ceremony, which is supposed to sort

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of be the end of the road for boxing where

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you look back on a wonderful career and uh and

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uh give your memories and recollections of that, you did that,

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but you're also preparing for the fight. So did you

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really have sort of uh the the the chances to

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truly enjoy the whole taking everything about the Hall of

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Fame because you still had to get back to training

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camp for another boxing match.

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Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it of being inductive of Hall of Fame

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like a big prestige and man, big owner. And also

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it gives me more inspiration determination to work hard and

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doing the championship again because they that's I think nobody, nobody.

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Speaker 4: Want uh world.

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Speaker 2: Title after the induction, after the redaction of Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: That is that is true guys that have come back, but

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I don't think anybody has actually one title. So that's

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a good point. Do you when you decide to make

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this uh, this return, did you really I mean I

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know you want you said the opportunity to become a

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champion again. Do you though view it as a one

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fight comeback or might you continue on after this depending

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on how things go on July nineteenth.

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Speaker 2: I gonna say more fight, but one at a time.

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What I'm doing right now is like one one, one

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at a time, like you know when you go right

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and I was like, I want, I want to be

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a chime one again.

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Speaker 1: When you came from the Philippines back to California to

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go return to the Wildcard, uh and you got there

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and I talked to them, like you know fred Sternberg,

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your longtime publicist, and Sean Gibbons who works with you

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at MP Promotions, and your right hand man that when

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you arrived at the Wildcard for like the first time

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to see Freddy since the last fight against Ugus, I

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guess you guys hadn't seen each other in the four

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years that it was like nothing, no time had passed,

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and it was like instantaneous, just we're back in the group.

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Can you describe to me what it was like to

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sort of be back where you'd spend so many, probably

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thousands of hours training for your fights over the last

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almost twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: The time that I'm back in Wildcard, like, uh you

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say hello, I had my my my trainer, Red Roads,

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and we meet each other, we miss each other, and

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then and then we talk about the fight and talk

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about the Trading Cup.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's nice to uh.

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Speaker 2: Ah to have you know, the work back again with

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Timpac pretty the whole time, Boo boy, Justin and the rest.

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Speaker 1: When I was looking at the matchup and I looked

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at you know, because every you know, a big part

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of the fight, man is of course the fact that

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you're forty six and haven't fought for the last four years.

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But what if I what do you think when I

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tell you that that when you had your professional debut

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in nineteen ninety five, that was a few months before

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Mario Barrios was born, and then now you're going to

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fight a man who wasn't even alive when you started

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your professional career. M H, what do you think about

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When I say that.

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Speaker 4: I can imagine, Well.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Barrios? I mean, he's he's

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an exciting champion. He's been in some excellent fights. His

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last fight, which was a draw, was a Fight of

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the Year contender. He's been willing to fight the top guys.

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He had, uh faced other quality opponents Tank Davis for one.

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He's now taken on a legend like yourself. What is

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your your view when you when you look at what

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he's all about.

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Speaker 3: And look Barrius, you know it's hard to understandate him,

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Like you cannot understand with him because he's he has

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advantage taller than me, and he's a champion.

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Speaker 4: He has a rich advantage.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of opponent that you gonna understandate him,

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will give him confidence.

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Speaker 1: The many Pako at his best at welterweight, like when

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you were fighting guys I, Miguel Coto and Uh and

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in that timeframe of your career. And no disrespect to Borrows,

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but a lot of people would have said, MANI package

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just goes in there and annihilates him. But because of

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your long layoff and the age factor. Uh, there's a

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lot of people that think it's a much more tough

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or closer fight. How do you view it?

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Speaker 2: The lonely for me is like, it's better for me

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because I've been in boxing four since when I was

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twelve years old, so non stop, don stop in my career.

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So it's really good timing for my body to rest

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for four years. And when I come back, like, I'm

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so excited and I feel like when I started in box,

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thing training come like that liazteness is not in. Uh,

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it's not come. Come comes in much to my mind,

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my body like I'm passionate to work hard, to punish more,

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and the timpacao, the trainers watching me to stop, not

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to push.

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Speaker 1: Did your family have any concerns when you said I'm

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coming back. Did they say, oh, yeah, we can't wait.

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We look forward to her. Did they say, you know,

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maybe you want to think twice about that? What was

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their reaction?

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Speaker 2: No? When I asked my wife, like, you know I

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can fight, like yes, you go fight, Like okay, are

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you sure?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Okay, I'll go home.

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Speaker 1: So she was okay with it. I'm going I just

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got a couple more quick ones for you. This is

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going to be your sixteenth boxing match at the MGM

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Grand Garden Arena, twenty four years after your American debut

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where you knocked out Laila led Wabba to win the

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junior featherweight title. Uh, A fight that I was actually

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ringside for. Amazingly, I wanted to know, because it's been

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such a long time and you've had such a wonderful

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history at that arena, what are your memories of that

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first one? Because that was your big American debut where

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you made an impression on so many people. What do

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you remember about that night that was so special?

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Speaker 2: First I remember that fight is the announcers hardly pronounced

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my name correctly.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I remember that.

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Speaker 4: Use. And it's also to notice for before the fight.

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Speaker 1: Could you've ever in your wildest dreams many thought that

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twenty four years later you'd still be fighting. You've had

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done all the accomplishments since then of going up and

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winning championships in eight different weight classes. I mean, like

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you said, fighter of the oldest fighter to be a

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world a welterweight world champion, Fighter of the decade of

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the two thousands of five lineal championships, which is a

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record eight division world titles, which is a record. I

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mean Fighter of the Year three times. I mean, the

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list is just endless in terms of what you've accomplished.

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I mean, was that even part of the dream.

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Speaker 2: I never imagine what I have accomplished in boxing, Like

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when I interpret the boxing, my goal is like to

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help my parents too, to bring him out of property,

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and also to become a champion in the Philippines.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is like.

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Speaker 2: When when my my knowledge about boxing white became whiter

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and I I dream to become world champion, just just

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a world champion, And what I have done in a

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complic in in boxing is beyond my own imagination. Like

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you know, a boy from uh from Sarangani ceiling whatever

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pandical newspaper in the streets became a No. One fighter

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and became a world champion.

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Speaker 4: So so of.

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Speaker 1: All the just wrap up with this many of all

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of all the big time fights that you have had,

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and all those world championships and all those big events,

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do you have one fight that you look back most

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fondly on, Like this was my favorite fight, This is

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when I was at my absolute best.

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Speaker 2: What of my favorite fighters when I started look back

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like Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 1: No no, and then your own your own fights. I'm

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talking about your own.

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Speaker 4: Fights, my own fight.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're like that, you participate in like that you

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look back on and say, this is when I thought

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I was at my desk. This is my favorite performance.

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My favorite fight that I've been in.

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Speaker 2: My most favorite performance in boxing is the fight with

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Marco at the first one.

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Speaker 1: That's a great thick. Can you tell me why?

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Speaker 5: Oh I'm I'm underdog and nobody knows me, and like,

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like what the fight like, it's the one side did

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like you know, I owned the home foot round, favorite round.

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Speaker 1: Nanny. I thank you very much for your time and

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I wish you the best in reaching your goal of

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another world title coming up July nineteenth. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Thanks that