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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 2: It is five dollars Tuesday, Robbino as always at wager Talk.

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If you're unfamiliar with that, every handicapper at some point

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today will likely have a five dollars play up on

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the site. If your new great way to try out

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the site, try out a couple different handicappers, try out us,

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although I think if you're here at this point you

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probably are familiar with our picks. But nonetheless, Tuesday is

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also what we used to call Super Tuesday, rob Back

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in the day, Big Monday, Super Tuesday and Super Tuesday

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was always the day where you had the big boys playing,

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and that still is is mostly the case. A bunch

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of good catchups tonight. So aside for we hit the

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parlay last night. You're overt there with Indiana and Oregon.

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I had Chicago State, all of that info checked out, Robino.

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They put on a clinic on how to potentially lose

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a game I've never seen.

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Speaker 1: That was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: A twenty point lead that they tried as as hard

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as humanly possible to blow, but they actually end up

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getting there and then in the end they covered every

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number as well. So nice winners there, great to start

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the week off with the parlay.

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Speaker 1: I had a two and o night, excited about that.

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So how is your night?

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Speaker 2: And then why don't we jump right in to today's

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feature game for due Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a two and o night as well, Adam.

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So anybody that was on board the double the CBB

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firepower package, you got four and oh. Last night you

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mentioned the Indiana Oregon game where second half Indiana just

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went ballistic. Wilkerson was great in that game. And then

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the over in the Kansas and Arizona game, which was,

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of course, you find out about eight minutes before game

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time that Darren Peterson is not going to play and

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you're sitting there over but still got there fairly easily

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in the end, one sixty point total. So yeah, two

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and oh here, two and oh for you. Nice start

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to the week. I think it runs my college hoop

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now to ten and one over the last eleven plays,

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so we've been on a pretty good role here. We'll

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see if we can get you going with Nebraska Purdue

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here tonight. I'll start right into it, Adam. Let's you know,

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pointing in the season where conference points spread records kind

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of means something. Now you've played everybody just about and

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you get a pretty good idea of who's been overvalued,

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who's been undervalued. And there's no question Perdue as they

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entered conference season on the role that they were on,

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that they were on certainly overvalued. They've gone through this

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Big Ten schedule now one in eight ATS in their

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last nine games terrible. You're burning money if you're betting

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Purdue five to show you to prove the point. And

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I know the terms undervalued, overvalued just get thrown around

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in this business at them, but the real meaning of

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it is what Purdue has shown us. They have eight

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point spread losses out of their last nine games inside

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the conference. However, five of those eight ATS losses were

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straight up wins. So, in other words, they're winning games,

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just like we talked about with Michigan, just like we

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talked about with Yukon. They're winning games, just not covering

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games because they're asked to do too much. That's so

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is the case for Purdue. They're three and three against

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the spread on the Big Ten road. Nothing to write

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home about there, six and six if you're playing totals tonight,

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six and six over under inside the league against this

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current total of one forty eight and a half. That's

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what we're staring at here, subject to change while we're

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on the air, because that's what happens every morning. And

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two and four under the total, two overs, four unders,

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one eight and a half on the Big Ten roads.

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So for Perdue, that's their ATS picture heading in as

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far as conference goes in Nebraska is much rosier. Nebraska's

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been a point spread darling six and one against the

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spread on the ATS on the Big Ten road, six

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and one straight up, kind of the definition of overvalue

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winning games outright, covering them all two and o on

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the road at Michigan and Illinois. I want to bring

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that point up in just a second here. And they're

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an under team nine to three to the under in

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these conference games. Just a great defense, slow pace, et cetera,

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et cetera. Again, we'll get into that two and five

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under the number on the on the Big Ten road.

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The matchups, though, Adam, you know I could not find

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and hopefully you found something maybe you didn't like I didn't.

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There's very little in fundamental matchups that favors Perdue in

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this game. I mean, anything they do well offensively Nebraska

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in the gates with being just as good on defense

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against that particular asset. The advantage that I did find

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with Purdue, and it's a gaping one, is the fact

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that Nebraska just does not offensive rebound whatsoever. They're a

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terrible offensive rebounding team inside the conference. Purdue is a

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great defensive rebounding team inside the conference. They're number two

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in defensive rebounding. So that particular matchup when Nebraska's on offense,

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are their possessions all one and outs because Purdue grabs

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the glass at a high rate and Nebraska doesn't go

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after the glass. We'll find out, I will say this,

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it's interesting on that end. We'll talk about them again.

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Rank Mast makes a difference. Right if you start pulling

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top defensive rebounders for the Purdue team, and somebody's got

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to go get Rank Mass out at the three point line,

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all of a sudden, your advantage for Purdue probably gets

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slimmer than what you expected it to be. The other side,

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I think does have a few advanced just here, Adam,

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including three point shooting. It's the best three point shooting

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team in the conference, and Purdue doesn't defend the three

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very much at all. And I said I would get

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to this schedule. Produced schedule has been soft, soft as

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can be inside the league. They played one game against

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the top four teams. The only game they've played against

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the upper rachelon of this league was Illinois and they

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lost at home, lose eighty eight eighty two. Meanwhile, Nebraska

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has played Illinois twice, played Michigan once, did very well

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in all three of those games up until they did

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lose to Illinois at home seventy eight to sixty nine

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last time up. But they had beaten Illinois on the road,

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and of course they covered against Michigan. Their roadwork has

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been really good. Probably unintimidated by Mackie Arena. They bet

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they're too many places now to be intimidated here tonight.

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And I figured the three point shooting could be worth

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a little something here and what could be a close gime.

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You know, it's funny, Adam. Neither team gets to the

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free throw line very much. Purdue doesn't shoot free throws.

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It's a slow tempo game. I kind of question why

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this game went up to one and a half, just

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understanding the tempo is going to be what it is

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that nobody really gets to the free throw line, that

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both point guards handle the ball so well. Braden Smith

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all the accolades in the world, but Sam Hoiberg, their

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turnover percentage is better than producers. So for me, excuse

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this game is in Nebraska. Excuse me. For me, this

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game is all Nebraska. I do agree with the line

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movement up. For me, it's not often that I push

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towards the side more than the total. I could see

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an under but I think Nebraska wins this game by three.

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I just thought there's not enough substantial success inside this

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league by produce so far this year to figure that,

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you know, they can go on the road and win

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this game. You've talked often about Pinnacle. It used to

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be called Pinnacles. It's still called Pinnacle. I'm not sure

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Pinnacle banker, Yeah, but it's a yeah the bank. For me,

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it's Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, it's Nebraska too.

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Speaker 2: To comment on the total real quick, do you think

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the books have a hard time putting numbers out for

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Nebraska games, because it's it's like this game is going

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to be very three point reliant, right like it could

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it could have a huge swing based on like who's

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making threes, who's not making threes.

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Speaker 1: If threes are going in, they probably goes over.

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Speaker 2: But if if the threes aren't falling, you could be

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under this this number by twenty five points. So I

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think that makes the total very difficult to handicap for

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that reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the variable there is huge, right, And I think

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it's why I like Nebraska in this game because they're

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a better you know, their matchup against the Purdue perimeter

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defense is just that much better. Nebraska is kind of

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sticky out at the top of the circle and Purdue

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really is a little bit you know, allowing as far

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as getting clear and looks up our concerns. So and

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again I'll just point to that matchup at him and

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you can finish it off. I'll point to that matchup

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of Rake Mast. We talk about it so much, but

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it's because it's such a difficult matchup, and it's not

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because he's knocking down fifty percent of his threes. It's

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the threat of a six to ten guy standing out there.

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Somebody's got to go get him. Whether it be Kluff,

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which it probably won't, I'm gonna imagine it would be

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Kaufman w ren because he's a little more versatile. But

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you do drag a big time defensive rebounder. One of

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them isn't going to be on the glass, and if

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Nebraska gets a couple of second chances here could be

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big for them.

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Speaker 2: You know, this makes me think of We've had this

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scenario a couple of times. I want to say most.

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You'll have to remind me.

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Speaker 1: One came up. I think it was a Friday night.

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Speaker 2: The point is I'm terrified to fade Perdue now that

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they're like the underdog, right what I can't remember what.

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It's come up a couple of times, and I feel

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like the couple of times it's come up up on

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this show in the last couple of weeks that oh

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it was the Michigan game, Michigan Michigan State, last last

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maybe last Friday, where suddenly Michigan hadn't covered in forever.

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Now it's like they're a one point road favorite. And

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you know, that's kind of where I'm at with Purdue.

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It's like, I'm with you. It makes sense to like

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Nebraska here. They have been phenomenal at home. If you're

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gonna bank on a team shooting the three, which it

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seems like both teams are gonna need to shoot the

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three to have success in this game. You'd probably prefer

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the home team that tends to go nuts at home

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when they play at home. But rob Bino, the the

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Purdue is a from a percentage standpoint fifteenth in the country.

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Shooting three is thirty eight point five percent, So there's

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nothing that says that they can't have a very solid

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percentage shooting game. I don't think they're going to take

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as many as Nebraska, but they can certainly make a

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higher percentage in Nebraska, which will put them right in uh,

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you know, right in business in this game as well.

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So as this climbs, I as this climbs, I'd be

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more inclined to punch back. I think like if this

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got to like three, because again, I still think Purdue,

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while they have been been disappointing relative to Purdue standards,

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it's still a very competent, quality basketball team, probably one

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of the only teams that I would trust in this

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league to go into the bank and emerge with a win.

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So it's a very challenging game for me from that

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regard listener Purdue, like you said, like there, it's they

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could have more easy buckets in this game, right, they

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are that they're gonna get likely get more rebounds.

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Speaker 3: They are.

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Speaker 1: Fifty one point from the field, still.

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Speaker 2: A top twelve mark or a top fifteen mark or

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twelve nationally in field goal percentage. Where I've landed on

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this one, Rob. You know, Braden Smith has had a

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couple of games where he hasn't been as sure of

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himself turning the ball over. I think if he plays

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well and produced focused, this could be a really good

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game and a thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad that we come on do this feature

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game and then we're like, hey, I have no clue

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how it's gonna win.

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Speaker 1: But like, that's probably why.

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Speaker 2: It's the feature game a lot of times, right, It's

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why Arizona Kansas is the future game.

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Speaker 1: It's why Purdue Nebraska is the feature game.

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Speaker 2: These games tend to be difficult to bet, and this

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one is no different. So I think, if you, you know,

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if you pinned me down here, I think i'd money

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line Nebraska. I'll take a stand. Not enough fence riding

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on the show.

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Speaker 3: Can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I gotta take a stand.

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Speaker 3: I'll go Nebraska just in case they clip it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, you want to see.

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Speaker 2: We had that happen where they just were like, oh,

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Robin Trigg, talk this game, let's clip this one. This

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was like a couple of weeks back, and both of

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us were like, yeah, we have no clue.

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Speaker 1: Like the breakdown was, it's like, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, this team, this team, let's move on. And they

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clipped it. And so people that just watched the clip

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like lost their mind. They're like, what is this crap?

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Speaker 1: You know, It's like we didn't know it was going

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to be clip.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, to get to give a pick, I think

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I would just have I just like Nebraska better, Rob

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you know, I just like them better. I like the

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fact that, like they could could ride the wave of

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the crazy home atmosphere, make a couple threes, and suddenly

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they take over the game. But certainly not something that's

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going to make my client card today, this might think.

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Speaker 3: I like the fact real quick, I think I like

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the fact that they played Michigan in Illinois so often already,

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Like yeah, it was not Michigan or Illinois, and Nebraska's

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hung tough with both of those teams all three times,

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and I guess just a little more credence for me,

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and we don't want to diminish, and you didn't diminish

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to produe shooting capability, because it's really really good. It's

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a top tier shooting team. But it's the Nebraska defense

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on that matchup. You know, it just seems to me

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that Nebraska's got it a little bit easier working against

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the Purdue defense that Purdue does working against the Nebraska defense,

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especially at home, should be a good game. Like you,

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I leaned toward Nebraska here and just a little head

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scratching on why the total bumped up to one forty

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eight and a half. But like you said, if three's rain,

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one fifty here we come. So probably best to just

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stay away.

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Speaker 2: All right, Garth, All's right in the world super chats

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or start again.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Do it, so I don't know if someone did that too,

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you know, bright in my day or not, but their

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background and this one came up.

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Speaker 1: So appreciate the donation from Garth.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go from no opinion to one of

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my stronger opinions on the day, which will be this game.

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Garth's has thoughts on Eastern Illinois Western Illinois. He likes

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the under one thirty one and a half. It's the

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second meeting the season. The first first one ended fifty

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seven to fifty five, So Robin know, I will leave.

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Speaker 1: The total for you.

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Speaker 2: But as far as a side it's concerned in this game,

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I think this is probably Western Illinois first and maybe

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their only conference win of the year. I have not

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had the stones to bet this for clients yet, although

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I'm strongly considering it. It is it is difficult at

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times to play a team that's ozher and fourteen in

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their league, and I believe like four and twenty one

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on the season. But Eastern Illinois should not be a

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four and a half point road favorite to anyone in

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this league. You know, I just was there Charleston, Illinois

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last maybe about a little bit about two weeks ago. Listen, like,

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that's just a Eastern Illinois closer. This is one of

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those scenarios, rob where Eastern Illinois had a couple of

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good results early in conference play, but in reality they're

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a lot closer to the bottom of this league than

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they ever were to the top of this league. So

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you know, you see them there at six and eight,

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tied with Little Rock, one game ahead of Tennessee Tech.

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They're the type of team I like as an underdog.

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But Eastern Illinois's road favorite is just insane. They're two

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and eleven on the road this year. This is a rivalry.

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I think Bob Bayu was texting me telling me that

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he's like, by you drop the name of the rivalry.

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I think he's like the rail splitter axe or something

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like that. Didn't know that until he texted me that.

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But makes sense. Eastern Illinois, Western Illinois. Kelly likes to

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call these the directional schools, you know, So a little

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bit of a rivalry here, Like again four point, Like

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Eastern Illinois shouldn't be a four and a half point

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favorite in this game.

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Speaker 1: But like, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I get where you could play the other side and

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be like, why would you ever want to put a

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penny on Western Illinois? I get that, and that's why

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I haven't fired it yet. So I'll go back to

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the first meeting fifty seven to fifty five, so certainly

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stayed under. I think the total in that game was

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one thirty two and a half, which is basically what

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it will it is here.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing one thirty one and a half, one thirty

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two and a.

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Speaker 2: Half, but I actually make this Western Illinois minus one

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on the number. So the pretty big number discrepancy, some

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of which is due to the shading right, the fact that,

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like they have to offer the books, have to put

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a number that at least like maybe deters you a

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little bit from taking Eastern Illinois because if they didn't,

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they would get a wave of Eastern Illinois money here. So, Rob,

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I think this ends up being close like the first meeting,

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and I think if Western Illinois can play even like

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I mean, listen, they played Simo Southeast Missouri, who's a

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pretty respectable team, to a four point game not too

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long ago. Uh you know, they played Morehead State to

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a five point game that was on the road. They've

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got But here's here's where I get. Here's the flip

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side of that. I ask myself, Trig, why why do

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you even want to do it? Right, well, why do

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you even want to go to battle with one of

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the worst teams in the country. Because I don't think

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Eastern Illinois is very good. That's that's ultimately why. So

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I'm gonna be giving some long, hard thought to Western

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Illinois today. Plus the four and a half, if the

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if the books entice me further and throw this up

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to in.

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Speaker 1: The five five and a half point range, I may

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have to do it.

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Speaker 2: I will leave the total for you to hammer this

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one home, because that's what Garth's question was for. But

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I don't disagree with Garth looking at this the way

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the way the first meeting played out, because I think

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it's gonna probably go that route.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so hard. The numbers started in the

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right place, and it's been pushed up subsequently because apparently

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some feel like I say this a lot in modern

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day college basketball, you could get to one thirty by

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mistake sixty five, sixty five. But you take a good

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look at these two teams, and the reality of it

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is Eastern Illinois has been sixty scored sixty eight or

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less than seven of their last eight games. They're not

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lighting up the nets or the scoreboard in any instance.

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And Western Illinois they're the worst shooting team, not just

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from two point range, but from three point shooting range

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in the league. They go at a fast pace and

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don't make anything. And so the challenge for me is

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the totals handicapper mostly is I feel like you might

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get pace here because I don't believe that Eastern Illinois

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will fear Western Illinois at all when it comes to

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playing a little bit up tempo. But neither one of

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these teams. You could argue that Eastern Illinois is a

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less productive offensive team than Western Illinois, or at least equal,

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and that's a pretty bad place to be. So Garth,

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I would say, I can understand is it first time,

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just to go through a couple of numbers. With the

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first time around, Western Illinois goes two for fifteen from

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three point me they put up sixty shots, they only

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make nineteen. It's hard to bet games over when you

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have instances like that. The other side, the three point

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shooting overall in this game, Adam was three for twenty four,

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one out of every eight. That's absolutely miserable. Twelve and

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a half percent from three. The other side put up

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fifty one shots. They made nineteen of them. So each

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team makes nineteen shots, they go to the free throw line,

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went to the free throw line. Most of the points

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came from the free throw line, thirty three of them.

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If you don't get into a foulfest in a close

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game with extension at the end, probably right one twelve.

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I mean, Garth, I can't argue you off of it.

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I'm just trying to rip off some things that I

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would think of that come to my head if I

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was playing this total second time around. I usually make

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the argument coaches like the correct what went wrong. The

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question is are these two teams good enough to correct

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what went wrong, which would be offense. Western Illinois hasn't

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corrected it all season long. Eastern Illinois hasn't corrected it

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all season long, So at this point in time, you

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just got to figure they're bad. Shooting teams based off

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against one another could be a lucky night where everything

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falls and the game gets over. But I don't think

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that that push toward the over is any indicator whatsoever

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that people think shots are going to fall here. I

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think it's just a lot of guys putting their analytical

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numbers together and saying, hey, listen, one thirty is just

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a little bit too low in a game lined at

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four and a half that should have extension at the end.

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So we'll see how it goes. Nothing I'm interested in.

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As much as I like that conference, that's just not

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a game. It's hard. Like you said, Adam, why would

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you want to put a penny on Western Illinois, and

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I guess Garth isn't put He's fading Western Illinois. He

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wants their offense to be as garbage as it's been

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all season long, and hope that Eastern Illinois follows suit

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like they did the first time around.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw one final thing out there.

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Speaker 2: Andre Washington, former l i U Shark, guy that came

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from the Northeast Conference. He was at l i U

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for two years, believe he ended up sitting a year.

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Now he's at Eastern Illinois. He's probably I thought he

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would have been the best player on this team. He's

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it's been Frewster who's been the best, who's been the

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top scorer. But Washington had did not play over the weekend,

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so he hasn't played, I think in maybe EIU's last

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two games. And that's something I'll probably be trying to

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find more info about today because if he were going

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to be out again here, that might be a that

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might that might get me there and then I'll just

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like you said, foulfest, Eastern Illinois is better from the line,

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But like again, like if it's just going to be

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a foulfest, you're probably looking at first to sixty wins

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and five four and a half five points might might

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be good either way.

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Speaker 3: And for what it's worth, that Washington didn't play the

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first time around the fifty seven five game.

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Speaker 2: He didn't play right, Yeah, he was out for that game,

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and like I said, I believe he's missed. I think

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he left the Simo game with an injury, which means

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he's probably missed their last two games.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well we'll keep an eye on that one.

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Speaker 2: I'm not ruling it out, so stick around for thirty

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five more minutes. That may be the parlay leg, but

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I'm gonna see if something else comes up.

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Speaker 1: Like we said, five dollars Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Also, Rob and I combined four and oh yesterday and

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our three day package is still up.

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Speaker 1: Double the firepower CBB.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get all of our plays on that for

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a three day span, so check that out.

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Speaker 1: We all.

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Speaker 2: We also got to Rob, we got to talk about

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the sixty nine dollars Valentine's Day special. We run it

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every year. It always cracks me up every single year.

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Speaker 1: So that's up. I believe you get the h I

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think it's.

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Speaker 2: Six days for your preferred handicapper sixty nine dollars hilarious. Yeah,

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you know, even though the kids like six seven these

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days were old, So the sixty nine is still going

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to crack us up. I don't care what anyone says

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that specials on the site. We're gonna move on. Let

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me jump back into the chat. I'm getting compliments on

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the hoodie here, Rob. I grabbed this when I was

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in Provo a couple of years ago at the Marriott Center.

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This is That was the same time I texted you

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the picture of that tremendous donut, the cougartail. Did you

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know before we get into the BYU Baylor breakdown, did

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you know that if you sit in the first three row,

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like if you have court side or like floor seating

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at BYU, you get a Cougartail donut on your chair.

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Speaker 1: So you just show up in the donuts right there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a huge perk right there. In my opinion,

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00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:58,680
I think they're fifteen inches long, tremendous. They pretty much

476
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sell out every game. No cougar tails tonight, though, Rob,

477
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,400
because this game is in Wake Up Waco, Texas BYU Baylor.

478
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:10,839
Speaker 1: Rob, should b YU be panicking at this point, what

479
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,480
do you you know?

480
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: You you alluded to this the other day that the

481
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:17,880
schedule was going to start to sort of rear its

482
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head with their lack of depth, and boy, has that happened?

483
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:24,039
Speaker 1: Do they? What do you?

484
00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:25,799
Speaker 2: What do you make of that? And it is this

485
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,720
a spot where b YU can bounce back?

486
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think when we were on Saturday Saturday morning

487
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,000
with Kelly, we talked about the BYU game a little

488
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,640
bit and my only thought on b YU was because

489
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,880
they're so dependent on the starting five, their bench depth

490
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,279
is not exceptional. That the grinder they've been put through

491
00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:55,680
since non conference, it's a lot of exhausting games for BYU.

492
00:25:55,839 --> 00:26:00,279
And that game against Houston on Saturday, that's where because

493
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:02,599
Kelly houst Houston as part of our parlay Lake, right,

494
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,559
that's why we talked about this one. And I just say,

495
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,000
you know, the way Houston comes at you defensively, BYU,

496
00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:13,519
off of the prior couple of games where they played

497
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:17,079
Arizona and Kansas two or the three before, could just

498
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,240
get worn down by that aggressive style of Houston. I

499
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:23,720
don't know that Baylor. Obviously, Baylor is not Houston in

500
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:28,039
that capacity where they're just savage in your face, defensively

501
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,440
and on the glass for forty minutes. Houston did turn

502
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,279
out to be the winner in that one. But I

503
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,680
do wonder, Adam, if you know, it's not quite the

504
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,440
Brian Earle situation that you talk about, where he just

505
00:26:39,559 --> 00:26:42,119
runs his team so much that second half their legs

506
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,039
may fold up a little bit. For BYU, it's just

507
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:51,680
taking your five in these huge matchups so often that

508
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:54,519
he got a tire at some point. I thought about

509
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:58,599
that this morning. However, my counter to that inside my

510
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,160
head was it be just got to get a couple

511
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240
of wins here in league. There's been a couple of

512
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,920
days off since Saturday night. They did play that game later.

513
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,000
I think that was a ten to thirty Eastern start.

514
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,039
BYU gets here to Baylor, it's a winnable and they

515
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,200
just have to start winning. They have five conference losses

516
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,160
now I believe it was four heading into Houston. Now

517
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,640
it's five.

518
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: Five of their last six have been losses.

519
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: Round and no shame in that inside that league, which

520
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,519
some people will tell you is the best league in

521
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,920
the in the country, but you do have to start

522
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,880
winning games at some point. So I don't know, Adam,

523
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,319
I have a hard time weighing the fatigue against the

524
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,720
need for a win. What I don't have a hard

525
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:45,920
time with is BYU being tired defensively. Defense takes a

526
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,920
lot of energy. Offense, de bands that can score. You know,

527
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:53,319
de Bans that's not going to have the type of

528
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,119
attention paid to him like what you sought at Allen

529
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,839
Field House, right where de Bants that couldn't really get

530
00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:03,160
off up against Ku like he saw against Houston. Here

531
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:09,079
against Baylor, probably not the same figure he and Saunders

532
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,759
and oh goodness, the point guard comes back home right

533
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:19,559
to Baylor here, right, and so yeah, Robert Wright rob right,

534
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,720
so we'll see that should be a big night for him.

535
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,480
I look more toward the over in this game because

536
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,319
of what I just said that I think the fatigue

537
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,599
on the BYU side, the grinder probably takes more effect

538
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,039
on their defense rather than their offense. They're so good

539
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:36,920
offensively that they can still score, but I don't know

540
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,200
that they're that good or as as energetic on the

541
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,359
defensive end as maybe they would have been six eight

542
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,440
games ago. So for me to look here is toward

543
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,240
the over. We're looking at one fifty eight and a half.

544
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:50,519
It's come way off of one sixty four. That's part

545
00:28:50,559 --> 00:28:52,400
of the reason I think it's time to push back

546
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,519
on this number. Five and a half point drop is

547
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,920
a little much. In my mind, I may get there

548
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:03,039
in this instance. If you're looking at team totals, BYU

549
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:05,480
at eighty one and a half is always somewhat attractive

550
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,480
if they do get there tonight, this one should get

551
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,759
over because I think Baylor will get this. Baylor hasn't

552
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:13,559
done much right this year, but there have been instances

553
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:16,319
where they've scored big. So to me, it would be

554
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:18,440
a look right now, not a play, but a look

555
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,960
at the over one fifty eight and a half.

556
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I agree with the over that that's been

557
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:29,400
so the head scratcher that when you look at BYU's

558
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,960
last six games, that the head scratchers is the Oklahoma

559
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,799
State loss, right and then and then of course giving

560
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,960
up ninety nine to Oklahoma State in that game, showing

561
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,880
sort of the defensive issues that BYU can have on

562
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,519
a given day.

563
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:47,079
Speaker 1: Letting Oklahoma State drop ninety nine on you like that.

564
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,079
Speaker 2: But you know, you could you could argue like they

565
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,240
just you know, they played a really they had a

566
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:55,519
really tough week going into that right, playing Arizona at home,

567
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,960
using all that energy up to come back, playing Kansas

568
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:01,799
using all that energy up to come you know, come back,

569
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:05,440
and back to back games where it probably would have

570
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:08,039
served b YU better to just get trash, just get

571
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,160
blown out, because in back to back games, they used

572
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,240
huge energy to get back into the game and lose

573
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:16,400
that game. So then they go to Oklahoma State, they're

574
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,319
probably gassed, they have no depth, and they get ninety

575
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,160
nine points dropped on them. Saturday's game wasn't wasn't as

576
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,799
grueling for BYU as those other games were against Arizona

577
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:30,079
and Kansas, So I don't think they're gonna be quite

578
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:33,319
as tired here, but I still think, you know, and

579
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,759
the thing is with Baylor, I should probably say this

580
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:39,119
about Baylor. I talked to CT about Baylor all the time,

581
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,759
like this is this team's awful, that this is the

582
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:46,039
worst team Baylor's had since I can like remember even

583
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,960
like starting to pay attention again to Baylor basketball, right,

584
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:52,720
like they've straight rob they've strayed so far away from

585
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:56,359
like the Baylor teams that were good and the one

586
00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:59,839
that won the NCAA Tournament would like really good guard

587
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,559
the defense, like they don't defend anyone anymore, and they

588
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,200
have nothing other than other than chucking threes, they don't

589
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,640
do anything well like, So I agree with your over

590
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,960
because I don't. I don't think if Baylor's gonna score points,

591
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000
it's gonna because they continue to hit threes, which is

592
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:16,039
something they've done of late.

593
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: But I'll go back to the point you made.

594
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: Who's guarding the bans to hear right, He's gonna have

595
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,039
a game tonight, So I think Debansa has a huge game.

596
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:30,160
I think BYU is gonna score their points. If Baylor

597
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,039
can chuck threes and hang around, then it'll probably go over.

598
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,200
If they can't, BYU is gonna win this game easily.

599
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,960
And I'm a little bit annoyed at the number because

600
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,960
I feel like I should be getting more of a

601
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:44,759
discount to back BYU with the fact that they've lost

602
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:45,759
four straight games.

603
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: But that's just where that that's where.

604
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: This BYU team, between the combination of how the tax

605
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,000
to bet BYU at home on a game to game

606
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,920
basis when they play at home, and then like how

607
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880
good they were to start the season even four straight

608
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,039
losses has not like totally swung the pendulum in the

609
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:06,599
other direction.

610
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: So three and a half.

611
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,079
Speaker 2: Here, Like I think I was at b YU minus

612
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:16,119
minus two point seven five, okay, so to be three

613
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,599
and a half, like, I'm not really getting line value

614
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,920
like I thought I might for a team that's lost

615
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,440
four straight games and it's supposed to be oh, like

616
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:25,119
you know, this is the this is.

617
00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: The world is ending scenario.

618
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: Rob I almost feel like I almost feel like I

619
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,039
should be getting like BUYU minus one here, But the

620
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:35,839
books are, in my opinion, they're smarter than that, and

621
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,920
they know that Baylor's a bad basketball team.

622
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,559
Speaker 1: So this is the other one that, like I may

623
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,920
use for the parlay. I don't know.

624
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll do what I did yesterday and just kind

625
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,640
of go with the money line in there. I gotta

626
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,720
check out what BYU money line is because I do

627
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:49,519
think they win.

628
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,799
Speaker 1: Three and a half. It's just it's just annoying to

629
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:53,920
have to lay that key number.

630
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,119
Speaker 2: But my gut says BYU is is much much better

631
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,680
than Baylor. Baylor can't do what what these elite teams

632
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,880
have done to BYU, and for that reason, they likely

633
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,759
win easily. So this is another one. I like BYU

634
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,480
a lot. Here, I like them to win. I will

635
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,279
probably decide what I'm gonna do for the parlay by

636
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:17,000
the end of the show, because yeah, I just wish

637
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:18,240
I was getting a better number.

638
00:33:19,759 --> 00:33:22,319
Speaker 1: If I could moneyline BYU without.

639
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,039
Speaker 2: Any sort of crazy juice, I would have already locked

640
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:27,640
it in for clients. But the reality is it was

641
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,920
two for about two seconds overnight got bumped up and

642
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,680
now you're looking at three and a half most places,

643
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,880
and no one has bought back yet. So yeah, from

644
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,160
a from just a making a good bet standpoint rob

645
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,960
the over probably makes the most sense because, like you said,

646
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:45,960
why is this move six points?

647
00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: There's gonna probably be a trillion points in this game.

648
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean BYU hasn't stopped anybody in a while,

649
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,759
and Baylor basically can't. You know, when you match them up,

650
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,960
they can't stop BYU. There's too many options here and

651
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:04,160
again these I don't know. The prop market for college

652
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,400
basketball is probably out there somewhere. I don't know where

653
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,760
because I don't do it. But I have to believe

654
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,920
that Rob Wright comes back and plays. You know, there'll

655
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,719
be one hundred percent maximum focused effort out of the

656
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,599
BYU point guard tonight, and he's kind of the guy

657
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,199
with the ball in his hand, so I believe that

658
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,800
they're going to score their share again. You know, these totals.

659
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,719
What I've noticed over the course of the season here, Adam,

660
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,199
is there's a lot of groups or individuals out there

661
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,119
that play solely totals, that just go to their model,

662
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,280
and my model says they can't the ones. I don't

663
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,519
think there's any regard for the individual matchup, for the

664
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,599
individual situation where totals are concerned. There is that type

665
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:54,280
of emphasis put on sides, situation, spot play, etc. But

666
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,760
it's never associated to the total. Maybe that's why I

667
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,039
like playing totals better. But this one doesn't make a

668
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:00,760
lot of sense to me, being that at one fifty

669
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,480
eight and a half, seems like we could cherry pick

670
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:03,079
this one.

671
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,079
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. I'm gonna go back to

672
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,599
the chat here. Take one at uh, let's take one

673
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:17,840
at random from the chat. Let's see, I'm just literally

674
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,360
gonna scroll. Okay, I've got it. I see two people

675
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,400
have talked about this game, so that's enough for me.

676
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:25,800
Let's go to the Big ten. Back to the Big ten.

677
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,480
We started the day in the Big ten. Now I

678
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,840
want to go back to the Big ten. Rob, you know,

679
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,559
I felt like ill I felt like Illinois maybe was

680
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:38,960
a little unlucky on Saturday, between some of those open

681
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,480
shots not going in, not getting a single call. You

682
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:44,320
know that that was a game where I kind of,

683
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:47,800
you know, I left the gay obviously, Listen, Michigan State

684
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,440
made plays.

685
00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take that away from them.

686
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: It was a great game, ends up going into overtime,

687
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,159
Michigan State gets the win.

688
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: But like, you know, I I kind of thought.

689
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,039
Speaker 2: Illinois was the better team in that though, even though

690
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:06,360
they fell short and lost like on the road in

691
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,400
it at Breslin Center, they lose eighty five eighty two

692
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,280
in overtime. But I felt like Illinois was the better team.

693
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,159
I felt like They've been the better team all year

694
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,119
and then I look at this matchup and I think

695
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,000
they're substantially the better team.

696
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:23,159
Speaker 1: Now that's not news to anyone. You look at this spread.

697
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,599
Speaker 2: I think literally anyone would say, well, yeah, Illinois is.

698
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:28,079
Speaker 1: Clearly the better team.

699
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:32,039
Speaker 2: But we're talking about you know, so the conversation swings

700
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,679
to are they eleven points better? Can they cover a

701
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:38,559
big number? And my gut says they can. Hear Rob

702
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:41,239
but I see some folks in the chat kind of

703
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,239
like Badgers. Plus the point, so where are you at?

704
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,719
Because it looks like right now it's Trigg liking Illinois.

705
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,320
The chat likes the Badgers, and we're gonna ask Rob

706
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,440
Bino to break the tie.

707
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: Well, here's a couple of things, and this is just me.

708
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:59,239
I don't What I don't like about Wisconsin is the

709
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,360
fact that when I watch them sporadically, Nick Boyd just

710
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,719
believes he's got to take every shot, no matter how

711
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,519
difficult he feels like he is. The offense doesn't have

712
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:12,119
to be that way. Blackwell in the backcourt just as good.

713
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,480
But I feel like everywhere where Wisconsin has an offensive

714
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:19,480
asset and that's what they do best, right they score points.

715
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,400
This year. It's a different Wisconsin this year under Greg

716
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,320
guard was it different Wisconsin last year? Even where offense

717
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,559
is concerned, everywhere where they're strong offensively. The Illinois players

718
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,679
are better, Like Wisconsin's bigs have been a factor this year,

719
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,519
But Illinois bigs are better. Wisconsin's backcourt, like I just mentioned,

720
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:43,519
Boyd and Blackwell really really good. But the way Woggler's

721
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:47,639
played in the backcourt with Stoyakovic feel like Illinois better.

722
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,039
To me, the only thing I worry about here with

723
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:59,760
Total going over is Illinois defensively? Are they? You know? Wisconsin?

724
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,039
I kind of feel like they're the type of team

725
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:06,679
that can score theirs against the lesser defenses, but when

726
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,480
they get matched up, when they get faced up by

727
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,840
just more athletic, more talented, that offense kind of goes away.

728
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,239
That would bother me here with Wisconsin. What wouldn't bother

729
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,440
me is playing an Illinois team Total in this game

730
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,039
adam eighty one and a half against the poorest defense

731
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:31,159
against a team with Illinois coming off the loss to

732
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,199
Michigan State. Of course, you have to ask your question

733
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,639
the question, and it happens a couple of times on

734
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,880
the card here today. Does the disappointing loss in the

735
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,599
prior game affect this game? Right? Some people call it

736
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:49,159
losing the game twice, losing the same game twice. I

737
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,000
don't think it bothers Illinois here. I'm with you. That

738
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,480
game typical Michigan State win. Right. They just gutted it out,

739
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,440
gritted it out, end of story. They weren't really the

740
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,880
better team in any capacity, but they do have that

741
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,159
fight they do have that energy, and they made enough

742
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:09,360
place to win here. I don't think Wisconsin stops Illinois

743
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,480
from getting to eighty five. They just don't play enough

744
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:17,039
defense at all, and their interior play. While it's nice

745
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,519
and it's nice in a lot of matchups. I played

746
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,199
Wisconsin team total over for that reason a couple of

747
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:24,480
times here this year. I don't think it matches up

748
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,920
that well against Illinois. So the Illinois Biggs are just

749
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,559
way too versatile and the backcourt is that good. What

750
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,159
happens when Boswell comes back to this team, That's a

751
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,519
question I asked myself for tournament time. When Boswell comes back,

752
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:41,119
you can't just put Wagler to the side anymore. I mean,

753
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,920
he's the guy. All of a sudden, they're a little less.

754
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,039
I'll go back to what Brad Underwood said the very

755
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:50,159
first game or the second game after the Boswell injury,

756
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,960
were better offensively. I didn't believe him at the time,

757
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,840
but fundamentally he broke it down for me. He said, spacing,

758
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,440
et cetera, etc. We're a better team offensively, we're a

759
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:05,800
lesser team defensively because Boswell brings that perimeter defense to

760
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,800
the team. It's kind of played out. I think it'll

761
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,519
play out here again tonight. So for me, you know,

762
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,559
I might go ahead and just do it now, Adam

763
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:18,400
at ten forty one, I will use Illinois team total,

764
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:23,800
and there's eighty one and a half available out there.

765
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,119
There's also a bunch of eighty two and a halfs.

766
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,840
But since I think they can get to eighty five,

767
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,400
I'll just be fair to everybody who doesn't have a

768
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,360
lot of outlets to shop and just say over eighty

769
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,440
two and a half in this instance with Illinois, I

770
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:40,159
just don't see Wisconsin stopping them. The only thing that

771
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,360
could stop Illinois from getting to eighty five here is

772
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,559
Illinois themselves being a little bit depressed or fatigued off

773
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:49,239
of an overtime loss at Michigan State. But I don't

774
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,039
think that happens here.

775
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:53,039
Speaker 1: I love it.

776
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: That's probably a better way to play it than lay

777
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,880
to ten and a half. I think my number was

778
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,719
ten point nine five. Now a couple of so right

779
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,000
right in line with the market, but I have not

780
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,519
fully factored in Austin Rapp. So a couple of a

781
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:10,440
couple of people in the chat are like, well, they

782
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,679
should use rap more. Rap can shoot the three ball

783
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,840
pull those bigs away from the rim. Is Austin Rapp

784
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,159
playing tonight, I don't.

785
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:16,679
Speaker 1: I don't know.

786
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,679
Speaker 2: He didn't play the last game, so that's something that

787
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,840
I'll be looking into today. Is he's still out because

788
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,159
he did not play in the game against Indiana, So

789
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,400
I'll have to double check that. Have not, you know,

790
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:31,480
confirmed that one way or another, but it's something I'll

791
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:32,119
be looking into.

792
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,079
Speaker 1: Trevor says my Badgers will get rolled.

793
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Laid it with Illinois off a home loss to Wisconsin

794
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,360
to John Blackwell. Relying Wisconsin to John Blackwell, Alliant Well,

795
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:48,239
I want to just focus on your comment that Illinois

796
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,079
off a loss they're gonna roll the Badgers, because off,

797
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:53,239
here's what Illinois has done off a loss this year,

798
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,559
which has only happened.

799
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: Twice. They they've only lost ar I'm sorry it's happened

800
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,280
three times.

801
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Illin off a loss, they lost to Alabama, they beat

802
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:07,159
l i U by forty uh, they lost to Yukon,

803
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,760
they beat Tennessee by thirteen, and they lost to Nebraska,

804
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:14,559
and they beat Missouri ninety one to forty eight. Rob,

805
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,360
I didn't even bother trying to do I'm not that

806
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:19,079
good at math. I didn't even bother trying to subtract

807
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,480
forty eight from ninety one. I just know it's a lot.

808
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:25,519
Those are Those are Illinoi's results off three off off

809
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:27,760
back to back to back, law or off the three

810
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,639
losses this year.

811
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: Now, you put Illinois off a loss, you put them

812
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,960
at home where they're twelve and one.

813
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: The only home loss they had all year was that

814
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,880
Nebraska game where they lost like right at the buzzer

815
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:40,920
way back in December. For me, I just I think

816
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,119
this could be a blowout, but I'll go with yeah.

817
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,159
Even if it's not a blowout, it means Yukon or

818
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,800
I'm sorry, it means Wisconsin. I don't know where Yukon

819
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,639
came from, probably because I was just looking at the

820
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:55,840
Connecticut logo looking up games, but I think it's probably

821
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,639
because Wisconsin makes some shots and hangs around like that.

822
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,559
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm with you.

823
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: I like that team total over quite a bit, And

824
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,880
if someone knows that again, I'll be I'll be digging

825
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,760
into that with a.

826
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. He I guess he.

827
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: You know, Slickvick was saying that even before his injury,

828
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,840
he was he wasn't playing a ton playing nineteen minutes

829
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,639
a game. So yeah, that's it's a good point, but

830
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:25,679
they would miss him here. Nineteen minutes is at least

831
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,719
enough to impact the game. Zero minutes would be tough.

832
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

833
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 2: If there's no Austin Rapp for Wisconsin tonight that that

834
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,239
makes it even more likely.

835
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,639
Speaker 1: That makes me, in my opinion, I would have to

836
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,039
move that.

837
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: I'd probably be closer to twelve on the number if

838
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,239
he's If he's in fact out for sure, and then

839
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,639
so ten and a half, I'd have no problem, uh

840
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:50,639
laying ten and a half with Illinois. Okay, all right,

841
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:53,400
let's go to another game. I'm still I'll probably betweting

842
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,360
one of the two we've already talked about. Rob just

843
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,280
locked in the parlay legue. I think we'll probably go

844
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,119
two teamer again today. Maybe we'll get crazier later in

845
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:05,679
the week and throw a three teamer out there, but yeah,

846
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,119
we'll we'll I'll lock something in before the end of

847
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:09,639
the show. Like I said, I already kind of gave

848
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:13,320
you the two that were that I'm looking at for

849
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,960
the parlay. Let's go to this game, Rob, this is

850
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,960
like a question for you know what, No, I'm gonna

851
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,960
go to Darryl, I was torn between two and and

852
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:24,639
this one, I feel like is one we should probably

853
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:27,440
touch on. So Darryl Turner, appreciate you in the I

854
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,039
always see you in the comments. Appreciate you tuning in

855
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,679
on a daily basis. He says, anyone like Auburn to

856
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:39,000
cover or money line, impossibly the over first, Vandy Well

857
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,400
without you know, Rob, without Duke Miles, without Frankie Collins.

858
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,320
This seems worse defensively, so I certainly understand over love

859
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,960
in this matchup against an Auburn team that's probably due

860
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,159
to hit some threes. They they're probably due some plus

861
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,239
shooting regression. So for me, here like again, and this

862
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,880
is another one where my number was in line with

863
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,280
what it was earlier. This actually I think this opened

864
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,159
one and a half, two some places all the way

865
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:11,239
up to four and a half. Four I was right

866
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,480
around three and a half. So but my handicap there

867
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:19,039
would be Dandy can't stop Auburn. And if Auburn has

868
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,079
some shots that fall suddenly suddenly, we could be looking

869
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:24,800
at the over, We could be looking at an Auburn route.

870
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: So I lean Auburn and the over. What about you,

871
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,119
Rob Vino.

872
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,039
Speaker 3: That's a tough game. I'd like to get involved with

873
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:37,119
each of these sides, but they're playing each other, which

874
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:41,840
makes it difficult. You know, the problem for Vanderbilt has

875
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,679
been the injuries, right and what a comeback they made

876
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,840
the other day against Oklahoma. I mean, Oklahoma was leaps

877
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,079
and bounds ahead of Vandy in that contest and Vandy

878
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,840
turns it into a one point game. Basically Tyler Tanner,

879
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,559
who has been sensational this year, trying to cover up

880
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,639
for you know, not having Duke Miles right now. We've

881
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:05,920
talked about Frankie Collins all season long not being available

882
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,360
in Vanderbilt. At some point, I'd love to go back

883
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,239
to whatever show that was three weeks ago or something

884
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,639
at him where we kind of talked about Vanderbilt could

885
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:20,119
be susceptible depth wise down the SEC road, and it's

886
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,840
playing out that way now. Duke Miles tonight, I'm not

887
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,119
sure on his availability. No, Duke Miles means rather than

888
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:31,840
getting involved in a total.

889
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,199
Speaker 1: And pretty sure he's out, rob Yeah, sure.

890
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: Dese Miles being out, Collins being out again, it's too

891
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,079
hard for Vandy to overcome at this point in time,

892
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,000
at least in my mind, I would probably look like

893
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:46,480
I said, I'd like to get to both of these

894
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:50,440
sides because they both need wins. But to me, Auburn's

895
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:54,320
got They just have so much more as in the

896
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,440
way of personnel in this contest than Vanderbilt does. The

897
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:04,519
amount of strain that had to be carried the other

898
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:08,960
day by Tanner has been constant for the last four

899
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:11,559
or five games. Tyler Tanner's been great all season long,

900
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:13,440
but I just feel like they're asking him to do

901
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:18,320
way too much. Nicols complimentary, but they need bodies. You

902
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,480
just can't run these guys into the ground the way

903
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:24,519
that they have to do. And now even in the

904
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:30,639
Oklahoma game, in an attempt to extend his bench for Vandy,

905
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:33,519
they try to run seven eight guys out there twenty

906
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:36,320
minutes plus and it's just not the same quality of depth.

907
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,440
So to me, Auburn off that Alabama lost very disappointing,

908
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:43,159
but I think that would be a pretty good bounce

909
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,360
back factor here. Obviously, those who got to the opener

910
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,239
at one and a half, congratulations, because now you have

911
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,519
to lay four. In my mind, I would say the

912
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,840
game probably should have started higher than one and a half.

913
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,920
I think that was just a flat a mistake, and

914
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:04,920
people took advantage of it. But I can't look Vanderbilt's

915
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,039
way on the road with the lack of quality depth

916
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:10,840
that they have at this point in time, it's getting

917
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,360
hard for it. We just talked about BYU and the

918
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,880
fatigue that maybe they're in because of their start. They

919
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:19,840
use their starting five so much. This team doesn't even

920
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,960
have their starting five for a lot of these games,

921
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,440
and since the three game losing streak, it's been a

922
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,960
little bit downhill for Vandy simply because of the shortage

923
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,400
of bodies.

924
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:33,039
Speaker 2: That's what I as we were talking, that's kind of

925
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:35,559
what the two things that popped into my head were.

926
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: One, you know, we would Tanner out there.

927
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 2: Vandy's certainly more of an offensive team, so you've got to,

928
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,519
at least, I think, lean to the over. If you've

929
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:50,280
got Tanner, who makes Vandy probably more offense reliant on

930
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,760
one side, and Auburn who should be able to score regardless,

931
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,400
but but also might have, you know, is do a

932
00:48:57,679 --> 00:48:59,920
little bit better three point shooting luck on the other side,

933
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,119
You've got to like the over, even at the large

934
00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:04,320
number of one sixty one and a half one sixty two.

935
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,400
But that's kind of as you were talking, I was like,

936
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:11,079
you know, that's what was in my head was Vandy

937
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,360
just had a very similar BYU moment where they put

938
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,559
a lot of effort into a comeback, fell just short,

939
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:19,159
and now they have to turn around and go on

940
00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:22,079
the road to play Auburn. So I kind of think

941
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,719
Vandy gets smashed here. I don't really want to lay four,

942
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:26,639
but I kind of think that they could get run

943
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,559
out and at I wouldn't talk anyone off of playing

944
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:33,760
it over because this seems like a game could be

945
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:40,239
Auburn could drop ninety ninety one to seventy something, right, Like,

946
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,280
That's that's the type of game. I feel like, could

947
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:45,320
you can see here and it might make one sixty

948
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,360
one look like a number that was no sweat. So yeah,

949
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,559
I gotta be an interesting one, a rare trig total,

950
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:54,440
like taking a stand.

951
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:54,639
Speaker 1: On a total.

952
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,599
Speaker 2: I don't do that often, but uh, that's what I

953
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,199
like that one? All right, Rob, we have two. The

954
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,079
comments are too good on this one. I wish I

955
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,519
wish I could find the one where he's like waiting

956
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:08,079
for the someone was like waiting for these guys to talk.

957
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: U n C. Miami is like it's like waiting for

958
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:12,960
a girl at the bar or something, and I lost it.

959
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:14,079
I lost it.

960
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: That's that's unfortunate. But whoever made that comment, that's that

961
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,280
was funny enough to get me to go to this game, Colin.

962
00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:26,039
Colin Gregory has asked for Oh, I think it was

963
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:27,519
a k I think it was Aaron Kidd.

964
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:28,079
Speaker 1: That's great.

965
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to AK for giving me the nudge on

966
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,679
UNC Wilmington last night because I said on this show

967
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:37,119
that I wasn't gonna play it for clients, and then

968
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,239
we talked about it while I was walking through the

969
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,840
grocery store and I was like, you know what, that's

970
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,440
got to be a play. So I went home and

971
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:46,480
fired it in and got a nice had a nice

972
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:49,159
two and O night because of that. So for Colin

973
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,000
and for everyone else in the chat that wants to

974
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:53,920
talk to you as U n C Miami, Robino, let's uh,

975
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,800
let's finish it off with U n C Miami. Here's

976
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,440
the discussion in this one. You're gonna have peep that

977
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,400
love Miami because it's a quote unquote huge letdown spot

978
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,719
for UNC, which in fact it is they beat Duke,

979
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,679
they go into Cameron dig themselves a hole. Come all

980
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,159
the way back. I'm sorry they didn't go to Cameron.

981
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,840
That that was at UNC. Bang the three huge court rush,

982
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,039
clear the court. Fans are back on the court, pandemonium.

983
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: What a what a game that was.

984
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 2: And now I'm sure you went out and partied in

985
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,079
Chapel Hill. Now you're going to turn around and go

986
00:51:29,159 --> 00:51:32,119
on the road and play Miami and what's arguably their

987
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:35,400
biggest home game of the season, UNC coming to town.

988
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,000
Something that I absolutely despised about the ACC having seventeen

989
00:51:40,119 --> 00:51:43,119
teams is none of these teams play the same league schedule.

990
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,280
So like, you've got Miami over here, who's been pretty good,

991
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,639
but they've played out one of the easiest schedules in

992
00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:49,159
this league.

993
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: They haven't played anyone.

994
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,679
Speaker 2: So when I look at this matchup, I kind of

995
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,559
love North Carolina, But I don't think you can discount

996
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,400
the night out after the in Chapel Hill, and now

997
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,199
you've got to turn around and bring your best effort

998
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,679
on the road. I don't know, rob UNC might not

999
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,000
need their best effort to win here. I kind of

1000
00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:09,599
like the Heels.

1001
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, I think it's the exact

1002
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,639
same situation. Other than the points spread that we saw

1003
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,519
last night with Xavier Saint John's. Saint John's beats Yukon,

1004
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:27,280
basically a pandemonium type win. You were in the Garden

1005
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,960
at night, so you know how unbelievable that's listen.

1006
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: I that was the first time I saw a quote

1007
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,199
unquote Saint John's home game. Of course Biggie's tournament's there,

1008
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,800
but that doesn't fully count. That was the first Saint

1009
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,840
John's home game I've ever went to at the Garden.

1010
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,920
I've been to the Garden a million times. I usually

1011
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:45,039
end up down there for a QS game or an

1012
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:48,880
early season game. That was the loudest I personally have

1013
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:52,000
ever heard the garden for a basketball game. Ninety percent

1014
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:52,960
Saint John's fans.

1015
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: It was tremendous. But but yeah, go ahead continue. Yeah,

1016
00:52:57,079 --> 00:52:57,960
And so we have the.

1017
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,079
Speaker 3: Same situation, right other than the point spread last night,

1018
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:03,760
you have a fifteen and a half point home favorite.

1019
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,679
So the underdog in essence is not even supposed to

1020
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,639
be competitive, and the underdog should have won the game.

1021
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,440
And Saint John's gets that thing into overtime and fights

1022
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,239
for their life just to get out of there, and

1023
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,159
they do get out of there by a few points,

1024
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:21,400
they come nowhere close to covering fifteen and a half.

1025
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,679
Xaviers the right play the entire time to let down situation,

1026
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,480
et cetera, et cetera. Here we don't get fifteen and

1027
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:33,039
a half, but we do get home court with a

1028
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:37,159
team that is competitive taking one and a half. I mean,

1029
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:38,880
you basically have to win the game. You might as

1030
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,400
well play money line. But Miami is far more capable

1031
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:45,000
of taking advantage of the situation than you would have

1032
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:47,800
thought Xavier on the road would be. And yet Xavier

1033
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,880
on the road, you know, I don't know what the

1034
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:52,519
money line on plus fifteen and a half is, but

1035
00:53:53,159 --> 00:53:55,360
you know, if you had it, you were almost there.

1036
00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:58,039
So I think it's kind of the same situation. North

1037
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:02,119
Carolina is not a good enough defensive team to be

1038
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,119
that gung ho on them, But you're right, Miami schedule

1039
00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:12,800
has been soft. However, Miami does have the physicality and

1040
00:54:13,199 --> 00:54:17,079
the offensive ability. If they're just laying in wait one

1041
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:20,400
of these type situations, right, they're coming in there, they're

1042
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,000
sort of still celebrating the Duke win. This game is

1043
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:27,880
targeted by Miami. I could see the attraction to the

1044
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,280
Miami side. I'd be a little scared on the UNC side.

1045
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:35,360
Seth Trimble, congratulations, you cost me a five and oh

1046
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,920
because if he doesn't make that shot, that game's gonna

1047
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,840
go over in overtime. And I would have a five

1048
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,559
and oh on Saturday. But I don't know. I would

1049
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:48,400
find it hard myself, despite the disparity in team strength

1050
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:52,800
to play North Carolina here. Just because we saw it

1051
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,320
last night. It doesn't mean it's gonna happen in every situation, Adam.

1052
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,199
It doesn't mean every team that walks in off of

1053
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,199
a big win is gonna lose their next game. That's

1054
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:03,360
Saint John's game last night just shows you why people

1055
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,960
are betting Miami today. Yeah.

1056
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: Listen, my my phone was just ringing, rob It was

1057
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,960
one of those fraud alerts. It was Miami College.

1058
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:17,599
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, That's that's what I think about this game.

1059
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:19,679
I don't think Miami is a very good basketball team.

1060
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,039
I think that they have been uh that they have

1061
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:27,880
been gifted a very very favorable acc schedule.

1062
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,079
Speaker 1: There.

1063
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: Listen, this team they're just not good. I don't know

1064
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,800
what to say. They don't they they're they're kind of

1065
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:41,000
like all over the place. They don't space the floor. Well,

1066
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,280
like they're eighteen and five's they're seven and three in

1067
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:45,880
the league.

1068
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,679
Speaker 1: But like they're loud, like look who they.

1069
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: Boston College, Cal Stanford, Syracuse, Like these teams suck, they're horrible,

1070
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,559
Like they're horrible teams, Georgia Tech, Dean. Their one good

1071
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,119
game that they played was on the road at Clemson.

1072
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:07,840
They lost by ten, scored fifty nine points. Why because

1073
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,159
Brad Brownell knows how to put together a defensive game plan.

1074
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,719
You know who else is kind of a pretty good

1075
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,480
is proven to be pretty good defensive game planner at

1076
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:19,559
this point is David. I don't know that Davis is

1077
00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:23,159
a great defensive game planner. But North Carolina can defend

1078
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:25,599
the rim. They're not letting you just get to the rim.

1079
00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:28,159
And so what's Miami gonna do when they can't get

1080
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:28,559
to the rim?

1081
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: Here?

1082
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna take bad shots, you know, they're they're gonna

1083
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,760
get Like their field goal percentage this year, rob is

1084
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,559
ninth in the country fifty one point two percent. Do

1085
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:43,519
you know why because they've been they've been feasting on

1086
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:47,960
teams like Syracuse and Cal and Boston College. This team

1087
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:51,360
is not the ninth most efficient, Like field goal percentage

1088
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,199
offensive team.

1089
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:52,559
Speaker 1: In the country.

1090
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,639
Speaker 2: I mean, these these numbers make that these numbers that

1091
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:58,719
I'm looking at very quickly when you do the side

1092
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,840
by side matchup, are making Miami look like a top

1093
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,079
ten team. I don't even know, Like they're not in

1094
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:07,840
the top twenty five. They don't belong in the top

1095
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,440
twenty five. That's what I'm saying here. So, yeah, I

1096
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:14,599
suppose if UNC, like if the entire team went and

1097
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,480
like on a two day bender after beating Duke, then

1098
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:20,639
maybe they're in trouble here. If they didn't, and they

1099
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:23,119
show up and play like even the game that they're

1100
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,079
like capable of, like just their average game, I'd be

1101
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,960
very surprised if Miami wins this game, very surprised. So

1102
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:34,360
I lean toward UNC. But I'm not going to discount

1103
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:38,400
the spot being good for Miami. Outside of the spot,

1104
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:41,880
Miami's got nothing. I'm sorry, that is the only thing

1105
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,159
Miami has going for them.

1106
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: If the spot wasn't the spot today, Adam, if it

1107
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:50,000
was just a regular UNC traveling to Miami game, not

1108
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:53,199
off of a Duke win, and North Carolina was laying

1109
00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:58,519
one point, we'd be five percent in North Carolina last night. Yeah,

1110
00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:00,599
I'm not even waiting till today. But that's the way

1111
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:04,079
I feel about Xavier. Xavier sucks and Xavier wound up

1112
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:07,159
almost beating Saint John's on Saint John's home floor. It's

1113
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:09,519
it's it's a weird. College basketball is a funny game.

1114
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: All right, real quick?

1115
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,559
Speaker 2: Since Garth donated again and and this is just a

1116
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:18,719
this is like a ten second answer because we have

1117
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:19,239
like a minute.

1118
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap it up.

1119
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna lock my parley leg and Miami Ohio undefeated

1120
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,039
season plus three eighty.

1121
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,119
Speaker 1: Do you like that bet?

1122
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: Or no?

1123
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:30,559
Speaker 3: No, I think we You and I have talked about

1124
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:32,840
games in the future where they could get beat No,

1125
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:33,400
I don't.

1126
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,599
Speaker 2: I don't either, because Brian Power and I are going

1127
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:39,519
to the Ohio game on the last day of the

1128
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:43,280
season and BP has has guaranteed me that if they're

1129
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,639
still undefeated going into that game, Ohio will win and

1130
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:49,440
we will be burning Athens to the ground.

1131
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: Those are his words, not mine.

1132
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: But does it mean just regular season?

1133
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:54,519
Speaker 1: Yes?

1134
00:58:54,599 --> 00:58:56,159
Speaker 3: Or does it my belief it's tournament.

1135
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,159
Speaker 2: I think it means just regular season, although that that

1136
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:02,360
would be I don't think they can do regular season,

1137
00:59:02,519 --> 00:59:04,039
and that the conference tournament.

1138
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,239
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna lose one, but.

1139
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: The one if they haven't lost by the Ohio game

1140
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:10,840
on the last game of the year, Like I think

1141
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,440
Ohio's got a good chance in that one. I'll, you

1142
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:15,239
know what, just to just be I'm gonna say no,

1143
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,840
they they they've, they've, they're gonna get They're gonna get

1144
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,000
clipped at some point. Doesn't mean they're not still the

1145
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:22,679
best team that legal. Although I know a lot of

1146
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:25,719
people would say Akron uh Is is probably better. I

1147
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,239
think I may agree with that, but uh yeah, I'm

1148
00:59:28,239 --> 00:59:30,360
gonna say no, I'm just gonna make it simple.

1149
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:33,599
Speaker 1: No, they'll They'll lose one at some point, all right.

1150
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,559
Speaker 2: Someone jokes, they said, Trig, if you use Chicago State yesterday,

1151
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:40,199
Western Illinois should be a walk in the park. That's

1152
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:42,960
what we're gonna do. We got it with an ugly

1153
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,360
side yesterday with Chicago State. Today, I'm going the leathernecks

1154
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,239
of Western Illinois plus four and a half. I think

1155
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,400
they probably win their only OBC game tonight of the season,

1156
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:58,639
but if they don't, I still think it's close. So

1157
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:01,960
Western Illinois plus four and a half for me, rob

1158
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,440
Bino Illinois team total over eighty two and a half.

1159
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,159
That's your standard, plus two sixty two team parlay. We'll

1160
01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:12,119
be back in the morning for more full court press.

1161
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:14,519
Don't forget, it's five dollars Tuesday. Don't forget Rob and

1162
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:16,559
I have a great special on our page. And we'll

1163
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:17,480
see you guys in the morning