WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.840 --> 00:00:06.040 Frank Grimes or Grimy is he liked to be cold, 2 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:11.080 taught us that a man can triumph over adversity, and 3 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:16.320 even though Frank's agonizing struggle through life was tragically cut short, 4 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:22.440 I am sure he's looking down. 5 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:31.480 Change the channel, Marge, four Finger Discounted. 6 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:49.880 Welcome to four Finger Discount, where this week we're gonna 7 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:51.359 be going all the way back to season eight to 8 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:54.399 review Homer's Enemy. I'm Dando and I am guy. Who 9 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:55.799 are we joined by? This Weeksterdavis? 10 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:57.880 We are joined by I want to say, the hardest 11 00:00:57.880 --> 00:00:59.920 working man in comedy, but certainly the hardest man in 12 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:01.759 because one of the first things that comes up when 13 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:03.960 you google him is his Men's health cover and he 14 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:06.719 is looking to use the blood term. Absolutely fucking jack. 15 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.000 It makes me feel bad. I have not seen a 16 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:10.319 tour so I like that since I got out of 17 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:12.519 the shower this morning. It's Ed Cavally. 18 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.480 Yeah, absolute superstar in the Australian comedy scene. Like he said, 19 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:16.239 he's just He's everywhere. 20 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:19.079 He is everywhere, is everything everywhere all at once. He 21 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:22.599 is on TV, he is on podcasts, do you know what? 22 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:24.120 And other things as well. 23 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:24.519 Know what? 24 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:26.120 We love him the most because he's a die hard 25 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:27.719 Simpsons fan. That's why he came on the show this 26 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:29.359 week and he picked time his enemy, and boy was 27 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:30.000 at a fun chat. 28 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:32.000 It was a very very fun chat. 29 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:35.079 And I love how he's very much crusty. He ends 30 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:36.640 up with a great crusty joke. I won't spoil that. 31 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.599 Let's let's spoil it, we won't spoiled. Wait to the end, 32 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.040 way to the end. But like he basically talked to 33 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:43.920 stick around talking about a crusty gag, and when it ends, 34 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:44.840 it's just like, you know what. 35 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:49.959 He is crusty. He's got the soul of crust of 36 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:51.560 the Klowan and the body of ned Flanders. 37 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:53.120 But he has got so much shit going on as well. 38 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:54.640 But he gave up some time today to talk about 39 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:56.359 Homer's enemy, and boy are we better for it. 40 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:59.879 We are absolutely thrilled to present ed Cavally on four Thing. 41 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:02.640 We ranted about what YouTube and the way it's ruining 42 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.799 kids minds these days. Oh my god, he was shagging 43 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.000 his fist of a cloud and iously and I'm like 44 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:11.240 high five, but the same I thought I was the 45 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.759 only one whenever I tell my friends about YouTube is 46 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.520 ruining kids mind. I don't let him what YouTube like, Nah, 47 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:17.319 don't be such a fucking old man. I'm like, no, No, 48 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.080 it is though. It is because they get it on 49 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.599 YouTube and they're flicking and they're flicking and they're flicking anyway. 50 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.639 But you won't be flicking today though, because, as we said, 51 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:27.280 we're going to be talking about Homer's Enemy. A fantastic episode, 52 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:29.599 the Frank Grimey mcgrimes episode. We all love it. It's 53 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.479 an episode that you don't appreciate enough until you get older. 54 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.039 I think, is that right. I think that's correct, Yes, yes, yes, indeed. 55 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.319 All right, Well, guys, hope you enjoy today's chat with 56 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.360 Ed Cavalley reviewing Homer's Enemy. Will be right back at 57 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:48.680 the end of the episode. Hey, guys, welcome to four 58 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:50.759 Finger Discamp, the podcast that is apparently now brought to 59 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:51.639 you by you Insurance. 60 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:53.639 I'm Dan though and I am guy and we are 61 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:55.919 very very fortunate to be joined today by the star 62 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:57.680 of Going down Under Ed cavally. 63 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:02.960 Great to be here. Thank you. A full retrospective there. 64 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:07.199 Was originally called meat Pie out to my work selling 65 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:08.280 insurance and thank you all. 66 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:09.719 Now good to be here. 67 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:13.120 I'm big Simpson's Fan was started, of course, at their 68 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.800 six point thirty on the Sunday nights on Channel ten, 69 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:18.800 and then through the repeats at six pm. And then 70 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:20.599 of course a lot of people know I worked in 71 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:22.439 a thing that used to exist called a video store, 72 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:24.759 and we had all of the seasons on video, but 73 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:26.719 I didn't need them because I had already taped them 74 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:30.319 off the TV myself and I would watch them incessantly, 75 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:33.120 just over and over and over again. And now my son, 76 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:36.000 this only childre you have children and a son of 77 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.719 a similar age. I have a seven year old son 78 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:40.520 who has found it, Yes, I know who has found 79 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.719 it on Disney Plus and he is now starting he 80 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:45.879 started at the start, and we're watching them together. 81 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:47.000 How great is that? 82 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:47.240 Right? 83 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.759 When you see that? Unbelievable I'm watching it with Ali 84 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:51.240 and there's gags that I didn't get when I was 85 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.360 a kid, and agent now, yeah, it's so much. It's 86 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:55.719 almost like you watched the show brand new again. 87 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:56.800 It's just wonderful. 88 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:58.560 And to hear him the things that he laughs at 89 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.759 versus the things I versus exactly what happened and the 90 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:03.520 episode we're going to talk about today. Part of the 91 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:07.560 reason I chose it is because watching with him, watching 92 00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:10.599 him watch bad episode. There was a joke in there 93 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:13.919 that I'll talk about that I didn't get until this viewing. 94 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:16.800 And I have seen this episode twenty times. I'm not twenty. 95 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:18.439 I've said it ten times over thirty years. 96 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:20.000 Oh yeah, more than that probably, Yeah, but it's a 97 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:21.600 fantastic I did the same thing. There was a gag 98 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.560 where I went, I don't remember ever hearing that, and 99 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:24.600 if I did, I didn't get it. 100 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:26.439 Yeah. 101 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.519 That's the skill of the show. And it's also you know, 102 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.360 for us who will have young children, it's a it's 103 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.720 a weapon against YouTube humor because he's desperate to watch 104 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:39.399 what can only be described as fuck what's yelling? 105 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:41.199 On YouTube? 106 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.879 And I say to him, you know, he likes watching 107 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:45.600 sport highlights and they're on YouTube. Who will watch it 108 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:49.480 together and they'll bleed into you know, I tried a 109 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:53.199 hundred different you know baseballs and then just a series 110 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:56.079 of fuck what's yelling at each other? And I just know, 111 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.319 stop that and put on this because comedy education is 112 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.160 is why I'm sitting here right now, through the people 113 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.120 that I had in my life that got me to go, no, 114 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.600 you're not watching, you're not watching that, you're not watching 115 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:13.759 you know, Thailand's craziest bus crashes again, why don't you 116 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:15.560 watch the Simpsons? And why don't you try with now one, 117 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.560 et cetera, et cetera. So I don't know, it seems ridiculous, 118 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:21.600 but it's important to try and keep alive the idea 119 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:25.120 that comedy is no people actually come together, have an idea, 120 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:28.319 work hard on it, really hard, and. 121 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.920 Can be rewatched over and over again. That's important. 122 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:34.040 And this sounds very noble and very righteous. I agree 123 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.600 when with one hundred percent with everything you're saying. It 124 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:38.399 does sound like there's a bit of a Frank Grimes 125 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:39.879 leaching into your personality here. 126 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.360 But that's the other part that I've sort of you know, 127 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:44.399 the people who know me Limo, who is a wonderful 128 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.160 comedian and is the nicest guy in the known universe. 129 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:49.839 He's welcome everywhere he goes, everywhere he goes, everyone's just 130 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:53.279 happy to see him, and he's very much the homer 131 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.399 to my Frank Grimes. Where we'll have a discussion. We 132 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:58.079 do another podcast called You're Not Going to Like This, 133 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.879 where we get people, you know people and we try 134 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:02.800 and break their algorithms by trying to get them to 135 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:05.279 watch something that they would never normally watch and see 136 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:05.560 if they. 137 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:06.519 Can find some joy in it. 138 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:06.920 It's great. 139 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:10.360 And I'll often be ranting about something and I'll get 140 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:11.680 to the end of my rant and He'll just be 141 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.160 staring at me with a smile and go, so you've 142 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:15.839 never thought of that? And he'll say things like, no, ed, 143 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.120 I never stopped to consider whether justin Timberlake could afford 144 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:22.920 Air Jordan's when he said that in the Last Dance documentary. 145 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:26.720 I was just enjoying Michael Jordan. And that's the pedantry 146 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:31.720 of Frank Grimes, I think is a great descriptor of 147 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:33.759 the world that we live in. There's two types of pedantry. 148 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.639 There's the pedantry that you guys exude, which is pick 149 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:41.480 something you love and explore it and entertain it and 150 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.839 as celebrate it, which is wonderful. Or there's the other 151 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:48.959 type of pedantry, which is go online and just tear 152 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.160 things apart as much as you possibly. 153 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:53.600 Can, hate watching find as many knits as possible and 154 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:54.600 pick the hell out of them. 155 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:56.759 Yeah, you know what I mean. And entertainment has sort 156 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.959 of in a lot of ways, marvels perfect example, people 157 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:02.759 go on about Bubble and I don't like those films, 158 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.079 But the main reason I don't like them is they 159 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:09.399 seem to almost be designed to be announced at Comic Con, 160 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:14.720 discussed on thread on message boards, and then re announced 161 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:16.720 on Comic Con, where they either say, sorry, we got 162 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:17.040 that wrong. 163 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:19.839 Now he's something that you do like or yeah, yeah, yeah, 164 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:20.279 we meant that. 165 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:21.920 When you like that bit, we meant that, And here's 166 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.720 more of it. It's it's just a sad feedback loop, 167 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:26.160 which is definitely. 168 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:27.480 There's a there's a great line that's been sort of 169 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.680 repurposed by many a podcast, but it comes from a 170 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:31.920 channel called Red Letter Media where they were sort of 171 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:35.920 taken the mickey out of nerd podcasters and video guys 172 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.800 YouTube guys, where the guy was basically saying, don't ask questions, 173 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:40.600 just to consume product and then get excited for the 174 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.560 next product. It's like, and that's pretty much it when 175 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.560 it comes to Marvel and Star Wars and all these 176 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:49.160 franchises that seem to be filled with bandless imagination and 177 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.600 now just sort of coming attractions for the next thing. 178 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:53.800 Yeah, And you know what's good about it is as 179 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:57.279 usual the Simpson's got their first well comic book. 180 00:07:57.560 --> 00:07:59.519 Comic book man, what are we talking. 181 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:00.720 Five years ago? 182 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:01.000 Now? 183 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.199 Ninety one ninety I didn't know what that was. 184 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:08.879 That's the other great thing about the Simpsons is how 185 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:13.000 many of their characters get better with time. How much 186 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.120 even though Monty Burn's is a great character at the start, 187 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.160 so based on Rockefeller and all those old school how 188 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.759 amazing is he as a couldn't care less about anyone 189 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.240 billionaire character? Now? 190 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:26.160 How good is it? 191 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.120 It's just something more relatable now than it was in 192 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:28.920 nineteen ninety one. 193 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:30.360 Incredible, It's incredible. 194 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:32.919 Do you think the Simpsons influenced your comedy in any 195 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.080 way or your sense of humor? Maybe in any way a. 196 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.919 Thousand percent, because it was designed that way. And as 197 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:41.840 you know, and you've had a few different guests on 198 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.159 that have said, this is it's shorthand. When someone says 199 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.440 the Simpsons reference and you get it, you're already you're 200 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.000 already one step closer to being friends and sympatico. It's 201 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:57.360 just it's such a shorthand way into a style of humor. 202 00:08:57.440 --> 00:08:59.919 And as usual, you know, just the other day I 203 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.039 was with Working Dog, you know, the Tommy Gleisner and 204 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:08.480 Rob Sitch and Tom Tom being Tom Tom's on TikTok, right, 205 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:12.320 but you know he's just he's a voyeur on TikTok. No, 206 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:14.600 because I said, Tom, I said, yes, you know, I 207 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:16.600 know you like to watch reaction videos of rap, but 208 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.840 I what else do you like? And he goes, no, No, no, 209 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:22.399 typical Tom. He's like, no, there's actually a lot of 210 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:25.600 really good comedy writers on there that dissect jokes. And 211 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:28.240 because Tommy's his attention span is you know, as short 212 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.720 as it can possibly be, because he's got three books 213 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:35.480 to write. And so then we're standing there and what 214 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.559 Rob goes, oh, yeah, and Rob just pulls up on 215 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.879 his phone a short Simpsons clip, just one joke from 216 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.320 the Simpsons and we all laugh, one of the ones 217 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.679 where the Tom home is talking to the FBI, and 218 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:48.519 then we all laugh and then we just get on 219 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.679 with our day. And so it's still happening, and you go, 220 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:53.200 all right, if it's good enough for them, then it's 221 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:53.799 good enough for me. 222 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:54.240 Yeah. 223 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.720 So many people just share Simpsons clips there. Account is 224 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.000 sharing and they're like two hundred thousand followers. 225 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:03.320 And they should be because that's nothing but net. That 226 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:04.559 is nothing but net. 227 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:07.440 You know, yeah, exactly. So you're saying, so, why second 228 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.399 did you pick Home as Enemy? Is this an episode 229 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:11.279 that you enjoyed back when it first aired, or is 230 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:12.879 it this one you've come to appreciate over time. 231 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:15.519 So the first thing that tipped me off to it 232 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.480 to rewatch it was a few years ago when Chuck 233 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:19.399 close to him and brought out his book The Nineties. 234 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:21.799 Oh yeah, And there's a little sidebar and there. It's 235 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:23.399 an interesting book if people like to hear it, even 236 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.799 if you didn't live through the nineties. Is he talks 237 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:29.679 about Falling Down, the Michael Douglas film Falling Down, and 238 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:31.679 about how it's a sort of a small film but 239 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:35.600 what he calls an outweigh an outsized influence on culture, 240 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:39.200 and it had, you know, a food fighter's video. There 241 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:40.600 was a Metallica song I think I might have got 242 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:42.440 the band wrong and a Simpson's character and I was like, 243 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:45.559 oh yeah, Frank Grimes, Yeah he looks like Michael Douglas 244 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:46.480 from Falling Down. 245 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:48.159 I better rewatch that. 246 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:51.799 So I did, and when I rewatched it, you go, ah, right, 247 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:55.799 this is as pure a we know what we're doing, 248 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.320 we know what we're getting at, and let's try and 249 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:03.200 flip something fundamental in the show and see if we 250 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:06.440 can make it funny. Let's get someone who's the opposite 251 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:10.720 of Homer, who hates him for how easy he has things, 252 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:12.960 and what's that going to do for the rest of 253 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.240 the show. And that's why I love it, because it's 254 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:16.919 just it's just pure, it's pure. 255 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.120 I came up with this awfully wanky line when I 256 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.559 was rewatching it. There's a lot of talking about breaking 257 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:23.120 the fourth wall. Shows will break the fourth wall and 258 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:26.840 acknowledge you, and this is like breaking the fourth wall inwards. Yeah. 259 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:29.840 Yeah, it's like they know they also know at that 260 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:32.200 point the discourse around home and that the show switched 261 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.000 to be about him from Bart. They know that they 262 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.919 know that there is an inherent ridiculousness to the fact 263 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:38.639 that he has. 264 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:40.399 This giant house space. 265 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:44.039 Yeah, it's been in this space like they're commenting on 266 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.480 the idea of the storylines they've have to come up with. 267 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.279 And who would find that the most galling And it's exactly. 268 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:53.159 It's a guy who has never had a second who's 269 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:56.360 never had a break in life at all, and he 270 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:59.720 would shit you. He Frank Homer is like, in a 271 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:03.120 weird way, those Instagram like you know, lifestyle people where 272 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:05.559 they're just on jets and like hesok, it's that and 273 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.279 Frank and Frank Grimes is everybody else on the tram 274 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:10.600 going fuck it? How fuck do they have their foot? 275 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.080 You know that it's that they got that they're miles 276 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:14.639 ahead with that. 277 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:16.039 I don't have two hundred k do to invest in 278 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:16.759 ship mate. 279 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:18.799 That's what I mean. Yeah, I don't know what, I 280 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:20.799 don't know what your crypto coins called, but money to 281 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:21.200 give it? 282 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:22.919 Why am I a Lambeau guy? 283 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:26.200 That's what I'm saying. And it speaks to that, you know, 284 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:28.279 it's just out of reach or how did they get 285 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.879 that element of it? And also of course, as always, 286 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.200 it's just so funny. It's just so funny, like the callback, 287 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:36.320 you know, the dog at the. 288 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:36.720 Stime my. 289 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.159 Money burns once home because you know, once Frank Grimes 290 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.679 because he's seen an inspirational story of him on television, 291 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.279 and then once a dog who's done something inspirational the 292 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:49.679 next day. Second callback is then the dog's walking with 293 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:51.200 them in the hallway with the little. 294 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.159 Sash on his vice president. 295 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:55.519 And then when Frank Grimes gets in trouble, the dog's 296 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:57.919 barking at him. It's just he's just like, that is 297 00:12:58.159 --> 00:12:59.360 just so clean. 298 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:01.279 Two three a. 299 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:02.879 Job that he didn't want in the first place. 300 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.840 Yeah, I told me to just one, two, three banks. 301 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.679 Just that's just sold. My son laughed at that. My 302 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:11.799 son was like, there's the dog and laugh and I 303 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:13.759 was like, all right, now we're getting somewhere. But with 304 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.159 the third one he really laughed at there's the dog. Yeah, 305 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:16.639 there's the dog. 306 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:19.480 All the threes, but it hits the ground running this 307 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.360 episode as well, because I mean, I'd forgotten that. It 308 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:26.240 opens with Ken Bruckman's news report, and before even before 309 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.840 you get to Ken's people, it's like, which is true, 310 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:30.559 means death to us all? And now I don't but 311 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:31.200 Can's people. 312 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.519 It's like, and that's such a Simpsons joke. 313 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.159 It really, that's a Simpson's joke for them to go, 314 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:38.200 all right, here's one on the way in, then some 315 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.000 story and there he's a feel on the way out. 316 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:42.039 That's such a Simpsons thing to do. 317 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:43.559 And one thing I've loved is just when they say 318 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:45.440 abandoned at the age of four by his parents, and 319 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:47.320 then they filmed themselves driving away. 320 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:51.519 I've never realized that they're filming it. 321 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.120 That is that that that's one of those ones where 322 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.039 you go, all right, we have to do it. Well, 323 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:00.799 they're all, we got how going to show this? What 324 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:02.799 do we got that'll do nicely? 325 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:03.200 You know? 326 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:04.840 And I think this is an episode that sort of 327 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:07.559 hits differently when you see the different ages as well. 328 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:09.240 I mean, I think when you've got a few more 329 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.320 miles on the meter, you know, you look at it 330 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.360 and you go, oh, you're either relating to Home or 331 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.759 you're relating to Grimy, depends on your your state of 332 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.879 mind at the time, your state of life, whatever. But yeah, 333 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:21.600 it's a very versatile episode. 334 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:23.159 I remember when I was a kid, I did not 335 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.919 like Grimes at all, and then when I rewatched it recently, 336 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:27.399 I was like, you know what, I'm actually more like 337 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:28.080 Frank Grimes. 338 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.759 Than I realized, except and therein lies the beauty of it. 339 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:32.360 And that's only because they've been going. 340 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:34.639 So long that and also he's been working with me. 341 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.919 Yeah, there you go. But it's designed that way. It's 342 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:38.799 designed for you to go. 343 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.759 And also the be story of bart owning a factory, 344 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:43.879 they only do it like three or four times because 345 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:45.600 they want to have a B story. But you go, 346 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:49.879 Holy Moly, Dawn going right at the death of American 347 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:56.039 the death of American as exceptionalism and manufacturing and the 348 00:14:56.159 --> 00:15:00.639 idea that the types of jobs that Grimey Homer have 349 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:02.840 may not keep it, may. 350 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:03.480 Not still exist. 351 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.080 So there's a factory that you can own. It gone 352 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:07.799 and now you go, well that is now the case. 353 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.440 And then when they have just they need something to 354 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:11.279 go right, we need something to set Grimes off. 355 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:12.320 What are we going to do? What are we going 356 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:12.519 to do? 357 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:12.799 All right? 358 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:17.000 Home is going to win a contest for children to 359 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.240 design a better nuclear power plant, and of course, you know, 360 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:21.720 Martin comes up with the one. 361 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:23.000 That's actually powers. 362 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:26.399 Yeah, we're powering this room right now, get out. And 363 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.639 it's just I don't know as pound for pound as 364 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:32.480 an episode. 365 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:34.799 I think it's personally. 366 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:36.240 I mean, I love you know, if you say what's 367 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:37.879 your favorite episode that you ask people, it's like, yah, 368 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:39.679 I'll give you my top two hundred ye. 369 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:40.720 Down from there. 370 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.600 But just as a if you're trying to say to someone, 371 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.240 all right, why is this show good? It's this is 372 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.720 one where you go watch this that guy's dumb, that 373 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:52.360 guy works hard. It's like you said before, it's like ah, 374 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:54.559 there's something for everyone. Everyone's relating to something in this. 375 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:56.360 Do you think you can enjoy this one as much 376 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:57.879 if you're not a diehard Simpsons fan though? 377 00:15:58.600 --> 00:15:58.799 Nah? 378 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:01.600 No, No, this one for us. This is one for us, 379 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:03.799 which is great because the thing I hate in the 380 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.639 Simpsons and this is you know, probably says more about me. 381 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:07.480 I hate the Heart. 382 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.120 I hate Heart, I hate I hate it. 383 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:12.200 It drives me up the wall. 384 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:15.159 It's the one remnant of their shows that they always reference, 385 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.480 the ball in the family and all of those things 386 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:19.000 where they feel as they have to do it. You 387 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:23.600 hear the music change, like, oh god, we know you 388 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.240 love each other, like we get it good. The only 389 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:30.879 good one is when Marge Princess Jasmine, I'm going to 390 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:32.720 the backseat of the car with my wife and I 391 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.320 went back for ten minutes. 392 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:35.799 That was the bowling instructor. 393 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.440 Yeah, and they're all cheering like that's the only bit wrong, 394 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.519 Like that's fantastic. Every other time when it's time for Heart, 395 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:43.639 like the episode I hate is the one that least 396 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:44.480 of the substitute. 397 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.080 That's just I hate that episode. 398 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.879 So I've never quite got the hype around that one. 399 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.440 I don't hate it about it's gone, it's whatever. I 400 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:54.960 do love to do it for her moment though, that 401 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:56.200 as a dad always gets me. 402 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.240 Oh yeah, that's yeah, all right, well that's that's which 403 00:16:59.240 --> 00:16:59.799 is what they want. 404 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.600 My opinion change after I became a father, though, I think. 405 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.559 Yeah, and watching it with my son this time, and 406 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.160 I know we'll get to the one at the end. 407 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:09.640 I'm picking his favorite episode as one of my five. 408 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.839 And why he likes that episode is like, really, okay, 409 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:16.400 well fair enough, but it sort of makes you go 410 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.000 if you can get people across that first line of 411 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:23.799 don't tell them when the show started, just don't tell them, yeah, 412 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.680 and just let them pick up any episode they want, 413 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.880 as long as it's pasted about five or three possibly 414 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:31.000 they if they can't get it. 415 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:31.559 I don't. 416 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:34.599 I don't want to tell you because this is killing it. 417 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:36.240 Because a lot of my kids they are like they 418 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:37.759 like the new ones just I think just because it 419 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:39.920 visually looks better as well. They prefer that. They's like 420 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.319 watching it. And I say to my wife, I say, 421 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:45.000 me putting on an old Simpsons kind of like my 422 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.640 mum putting on like a Scooby Doo cartoon from the sixties, 423 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:47.880 you know. 424 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.519 Yeah, I know that it's such an air it's a 425 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:53.279 weird have that line, where does that line go? You 426 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:55.079 know the line that the world record line when they 427 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.599 show the swimming, it's like that the end of culture line, 428 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.839 So you go, where is culture ending? As a sort 429 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:01.400 of I can show this to someone and they won't go, 430 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:04.079 this look shit. And it's like when I was at 431 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:05.680 the video shop when I was trying to, you know, 432 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.240 take home. You know, the world's crazy as bikers, and 433 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:11.480 the two guys, Pete and Rob who ran this video stores, 434 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:13.160 they actually just took them out of my hand, like 435 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.480 watching that and I'm sixteen at this point. Okay, why hilarious? 436 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.039 That is this guy's going to fall for Cliff and 437 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.839 that guy is dead. But they took put those down. 438 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:23.839 Why you can have mony Python and now for something 439 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.559 completely different the thing, and you can have this, and 440 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:28.839 you can have Blackadder, and you can watch these that's 441 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:30.640 what you can watch. That's what you're allowed to watch, 442 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:32.039 and then you can come back and tell us why 443 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:33.799 you like it. And then spinal tap. 444 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.359 Pete and Robs are like fucking bosses. 445 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:37.720 Well yeah, they were as good as it gets and 446 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:41.160 that so that was so crucial it was so crucial 447 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.759 to just going, oh, I see, so there's a different 448 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.680 way of finding jokes that is sorry, but it's better. 449 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:50.519 And then the Simpsons comes along and they that's the 450 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:52.119 stuff they all like. I mean, they put the guy 451 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:56.319 from Spinal Tack in it for that reason, and you go, oh, 452 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.240 I'll get it, and then you're off and that's the hope. 453 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:01.480 This is something I've always said. There's a lot of 454 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:04.519 hype around, a lot of sort of negative around gatekeepers, 455 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:07.799 like oh god, we hate them. Yeah, the best gatekeepers 456 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.279 aren't keeping you out, they're ushering you in. They're bringing 457 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:11.319 me through the gates. 458 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.599 Yeah, and I mean this, you know, this show does that, 459 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:16.359 and there's still you know, there's still so much good 460 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:18.200 stuff that he's getting made and does get made. And 461 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:20.000 it can be short form of cameo, TikTok, I don't know. 462 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:21.920 But there's just there's a voice. This is what I 463 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:23.039 call the YouTube voice. 464 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:25.759 We were just talking about it. 465 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:28.119 I totally relate. You can rant as much as you 466 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:29.960 want about this. I'm totally in the same wavelength. 467 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:31.960 Are you talking about people whore saying like this? 468 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:35.599 And there's a guy I just do rewatching for this. 469 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:37.160 I went on YouTube because I wanted to see the 470 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:39.599 bit where he freaks out grinding again, just to see 471 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:41.839 that sequence. And there was one where it was like 472 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:46.000 a video of a reaction to this episode. Someone filmed 473 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:50.640 themselves reacting to it. This man was in his thirties. Fuck, 474 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:55.680 do I care hitting me? You've got to be kidding 475 00:19:55.720 --> 00:20:02.680 me that you think that you okay, all right, You've 476 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.279 got to be joking, not adding anything, adding something you 477 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.480 are you are subtracting from all of our lives. Everyone 478 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.119 in everyone written in yellow What's what's a Simpsons font 479 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:11.720 called to name? 480 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:12.319 I can ever remember? 481 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:14.559 I've called Simpsons fon, Simpsons fot whatever. 482 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:18.000 Every single person written in that yellow Simpsons font has 483 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.240 contributed more to the world in this episode than you 484 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:24.400 will ever do for all of us. 485 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:27.960 And that there sit there judging it, not even and 486 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:30.839 just dumbley. 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So go 492 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:52.480 ahead and join the family today at patreon dot com 493 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:53.599 slash four figure discount. 494 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:55.839 Yeah, there was one of the reasons. 495 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:57.319 The other reason I was picked this episode is I 496 00:20:57.319 --> 00:20:58.880 was watching it so the joke that I'd never got. 497 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:01.359 So I'm sitting there with my son and they go 498 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:03.799 and to go to the bar to sort of tell 499 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:05.640 MO and that that he's this guy that hates him, 500 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:06.880 and yeah, they're all trying to sort of come to 501 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.319 terms with the idea that someone would hate Homer. And 502 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:12.720 then you go, oh, and then he reads out his 503 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:17.839 MO read out his enemy's list and his treamit a second, 504 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:21.920 that's Richard Nixon's enemies list, right, And I just didn't 505 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:25.640 I hadn't done enough Watergate or enough Nixon tapes time 506 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.480 until now to go holy shit, that is and it 507 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:34.920 is his list, and it's just a great joke. That's 508 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:38.200 Richard Nixon's enemies list, a president that has gone for 509 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:41.680 thirty something years when the episode's made, and I was like, 510 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.519 come on, people, that is quarterbly doing that is is fantastic. 511 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:47.640 But the centsens Riders were really out of heart on for. 512 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:50.039 Nixon, which is odd. 513 00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:51.880 Just they should have been they would have been what 514 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:57.759 young when he left right young? Early seventies, Yeah, seventy 515 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:01.920 seventy three, when he flew away in marine too and 516 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:02.960 no one ever saw him again. 517 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:04.920 That's a great joke that I think. It's a Louis c. 518 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:05.279 K joke. 519 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:10.279 Who goes to the president just flew away one day. 520 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:11.400 Which is true, but yes, you're right. 521 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:15.559 And and remember he's got powerful enemies when is he 522 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:17.279 what it was in the universe. 523 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.319 Powerful the pig, the pig, powerful enemies. 524 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:28.039 Just that Paranoya seventy four, he leaves and just just 525 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:32.279 their their obsession with his paranoia is so funny. 526 00:22:31.839 --> 00:22:34.400 So funny. They then moves on to Futurama as well. 527 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:36.720 I've never really watched Future Future. 528 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:39.119 Richard Nixon is like the main villain of Futurama essentially 529 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:42.000 becomes president of the world. Wow, you've never seen it. 530 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:43.880 Billy West does an incredible Richard Nixon. 531 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.640 I've seen some episodes of Yeah, I. 532 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:51.559 Just it's the genius of Swartsworld, whose name is on 533 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.759 this episode. Look, I'm sure there are contributions from the 534 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:55.559 Simpsons right in the room, but I mean it feels 535 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:58.759 very swartzworlder in terms of like this is as black 536 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.200 and grim as size that as it gets when it 537 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.359 comes to like American cultural or world culture or whatever. 538 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:06.680 So do we know if he'd seen falling down? Because yeah, 539 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.039 I'd love to know. Maybe you could ask that. I'm sorry, 540 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:11.720 I'm blanket his name with the dude who had. 541 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.799 The book, who's excellent Sigel. Yeah, maybe ask him and. 542 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.160 Go, hey, listen, do you know if he'd seen had 543 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:19.000 he seen falling down? 544 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:21.079 Because he looks like is his personality trait based on 545 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:22.359 the characters are just the design. 546 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:26.839 Of similar just very tightly wound, like why is the 547 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.240 world like this when I'm you know, when I'm bolding rules? 548 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.680 Yeah, yeah, he attacks La by himself, as Chuck Plostman says, 549 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:35.440 But yeah, I'd be interested to know if he how 550 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:39.240 in the banks Wort's world I had this and thought, God, 551 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:41.680 this is the right guy. Or if he's watched that 552 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:44.079 and going, oh, you know what, that's interesting. What if 553 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:46.119 he hates Homer? He doesn't hate La, he hates Homer. 554 00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:47.960 I think you were probably about to bring this up 555 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:51.640 because you know, but I was really stunned to discover 556 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.079 that one of the first people they were looking out 557 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.400 to do the voice of friend Grumbs with Nicholas Cage. 558 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:57.440 Oh, that doesn't surprise me at all, because this feels 559 00:23:57.480 --> 00:23:59.279 like a guest role usually perfect. 560 00:23:59.559 --> 00:23:59.720 It does. 561 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:01.599 So it is almost strange when you look it up 562 00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:02.799 and you go, okay, one of them did it, and 563 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:03.799 he says he based it. 564 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:04.920 On It's Azaria, isn't it. 565 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:05.759 Yeah, he does. 566 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:07.440 William h Macy, Yeah. 567 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:07.640 Yeah, he goes. 568 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:10.119 He says, he goes for William h Macy. Where you go, No, 569 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:14.559 because h Macy is on the defensive. H Macy is 570 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:17.319 like in Fargo, et cetera, et cetera. What he's good 571 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:19.240 at exaid not the shame was but that was way later. 572 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:21.759 But at that point he's good at being he is 573 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:22.480 put upon. 574 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:25.200 He's not. He's defensive, yeah, but he's not aggressive like 575 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:26.759 in Falling Down Guy. 576 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:28.119 This guy's front foot. 577 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:30.319 So I was the Cage would have been amazing. 578 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:32.599 I do find it interest in that they decided not 579 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:34.559 to get a guest star because they wanted someone who's 580 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:36.920 on the cast, because they understood the history of Homer's 581 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:39.880 character as well, so they could emote correctly towards why 582 00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:41.640 you would be so frustrated. 583 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.319 That is actually a very good point, and as usual 584 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:46.200 if they're right, because the key scene is when he 585 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:49.000 comes to his house, yep, and you live in this palace, 586 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:51.720 my night job at the foundry. I live in an 587 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.000 apartment above a bowling which is underneath another. 588 00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:58.279 Bow and Home's like wow, he wants that. 589 00:24:58.279 --> 00:24:58.839 That's the key. 590 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:02.240 The key is that Homer is impressed by Grimey and 591 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:06.160 thrilled by him right to the end. He's either indifferent. 592 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:07.720 The only bit where he goes where he comes out 593 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:08.759 and he looks in and he goes because I am 594 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:15.039 Hermie Simpson, and which he does. And but that's such 595 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.880 a clever it's such a clever way of keeping Homer 596 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.599 in the episode because if Homer Cotton's on early and 597 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.000 sort of they become adversaries like saying like mister plow 598 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:28.200 or something, No, we've got nothing to do, grime He's 599 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:28.920 got nowhere to go. 600 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.839 They sort of stack the deck in favor of Homer 601 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:36.400 in some ways by making him afraid, not afraid, but like, 602 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:37.599 oh he doesn't like me. 603 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.160 Wait a minute, I want this before. He's never had 604 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.000 an enemy, he's never had anyone go out of their 605 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.480 way to dislike him. No, yeah, And I mean I 606 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:47.079 think everyone can sort of relate to that. I mean, 607 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:50.200 what's that great John Mulaney line, who's like, I want 608 00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:52.480 everyone to like me. Is like my wife says, you're 609 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:53.480 like the mayor of nothing. 610 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.000 Yeah, which is which is Yeah, it's a good it's 611 00:25:58.039 --> 00:25:58.559 a good point. 612 00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:02.920 But he Homer has like all the things that he 613 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:04.920 stacked up when I was on tour with the Smashing 614 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.079 Pumpkins and when he met Gerald Ford, et cetera. And 615 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:12.079 I've been to space you've never been. It's just it's 616 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:15.039 it's a great reminder too. You go, yeah, that's right, 617 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:17.440 there was that episode. That episode was good too. They're 618 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.519 doing a clip show without having to do a clip show. 619 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:19.759 That's true. 620 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.240 Yeah, just adding some context to the back issue of the. 621 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:24.599 Show, which I don't know, which they don't love to do. 622 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:25.519 They don't know, they don't. 623 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.319 They try and make sure that you've got memory wipe 624 00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:30.880 at the end of every episode statusquo. Yes, I then 625 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:32.880 to go on this happened. You go, oh, that's good. 626 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:34.079 That's interesting. That really helps. 627 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.400 It's definitely suited this story for sure. Yeah. I also 628 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:37.839 think this episode will sort of used just to point 629 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:39.519 out the absurdity, like you said, because we always in 630 00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.000 the Simpsons adds. I think what appealed to it in 631 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.720 the beginning was it was very relatable, but by this 632 00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.359 point it was kind of anything but relatable. The characters 633 00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:48.960 were relatable, but what was going on really wasn't. 634 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.160 Yeah, and I'd love to know, you know, there's that 635 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.640 great they'll do like the Chew to Dine Dynasty or whatever, 636 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.759 and they'll show you, like, you know this person in 637 00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.559 rain till here and they just have lines such and 638 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:01.599 such rain here and then Henry. Yeah, they to go 639 00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:04.319 over and then Elizabeth, Like, they'll do that. What I'd 640 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.920 love to see is a writer's one for the Simpsons, 641 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.119 because you go, what's the lifespan of a Simpsons writer 642 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:11.960 to get to the end where you go, do you 643 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.000 know what? I just I don't know what else? What 644 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:15.960 else have I got here? Because they used to do? 645 00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:16.319 You know? 646 00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.599 They talk about that in Seinfeld where they are they're 647 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:20.559 just after. 648 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:21.559 A while the tank's empty. 649 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:23.799 Yeah, we don't, we can't. It's too intense. 650 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:25.440 It could be that you come up with an idea 651 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:27.039 and then you realize you've already done it. 652 00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.559 How much must that happen on the Simpsons. 653 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.160 Oh now, of course, can you imagine, like the most 654 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.359 more recent ones, they're still funny. I just don't get 655 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.880 I find it strange. No, they're not as good to go, Yeah, 656 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:38.519 but they are. 657 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:40.440 You just don't. You can't. 658 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:42.000 It's still because you're also in nostalgia. 659 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:43.640 Nostalgia plays a big role. 660 00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:45.680 Yeah, you're a different person when you watch those first 661 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.160 ones like these. This is a funny episodes my son's 662 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.359 watching sort of set more recent seasons. They're funny. They're 663 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.799 just funny. They're still funny, and that is impossible. Thirty 664 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:55.759 something years in, I. 665 00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:57.640 Think there was a period where and they call it 666 00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.599 jerkass Home and we're in season twenty one now, the 667 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.039 show on it from cologeal Order, and the character of 668 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:03.640 Home is just so dumb down. He's not howd a 669 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:05.759 cannibal for any of his bullshit anymore. 670 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.200 I've heard you say that when he's that what's what? 671 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.680 As some of those episodes, there is an episode that 672 00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.160 I always bring up called Codependence Day, where Marge and 673 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.359 Homer are driving home from a party and Home has 674 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:17.039 been drinking much as I'll drive, and he goes, no, 675 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.839 I'm fine, So he drink drives, crashes the car, bails 676 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:21.240 out of the car, puts her in the driver's seat, 677 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.839 and he has her copped the reactive the result of it, 678 00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.519 and then doesn't be how to accountable for it. She 679 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:28.359 apologizes at the end for being so mean to him. 680 00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.920 That's an episode that's like the apex. 681 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:32.680 Of jerk out somewhere. But they had been had been 682 00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.599 leading up to that, with just he was being dumbed 683 00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:37.480 down more and more, it seemed, and Ye had no 684 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:40.920 accountability for his actions in this regard. I mean, he's 685 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.599 dumbed down in this, but there's a degree of accountability 686 00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.000 by way of Frank Grime sort of calling him out 687 00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.799 for this, and by extension calling us out, like you're 688 00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:51.799 really tolerating this, aren't you, guys? Is that this is 689 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:52.920 what you want? You're really into this. 690 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:55.319 But putting your wife behind the wheel of a car 691 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.720 you smashed your drink driving, that's what Homer became. 692 00:28:59.319 --> 00:28:59.799 I've seen that. 693 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:01.519 This is one of those ones where I'll start I'll 694 00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.799 go I haven't seen him, and I'll start watching like, ah, yeah, 695 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:03.920 I got. 696 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:05.559 Oh so okay. 697 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.920 And then Lisa confronts a famous movie director about the 698 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:09.720 drop and quality his films have taken. 699 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.200 Oh was that George Lucas? 700 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.319 One is that it must be, because yeah. 701 00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.279 That's right. They give him another name. They don't call 702 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:16.880 them Lucas, but it's essentially Lucas. 703 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:18.960 They have they make him a little person and everything. 704 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:20.359 Yeah, yeah, that was shit. 705 00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.680 Oh so that's two thousand and four. So what's happening 706 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.160 in Star Wars at two thousand and four? 707 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.920 We've got the last that's in between Mane of the 708 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:29.039 Sith comes out the following year. 709 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.279 That's in between Attack of the Clones and Seth. 710 00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.519 All right, so we're riding that midst the mire of 711 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:36.519 what has he done? You're right in the midst of 712 00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.200 what has he done? And Okay, this is an interesting 713 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.640 I'm going to have to rewatch this one because that 714 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.960 does read extremely like often think about the the actors, 715 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.240 like you know, howr you shere is very forthright in 716 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:51.880 talking about you know. I remember him saying I was 717 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:54.680 walking through an airport in Argentina or somewhere in South 718 00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:56.920 America and I heard my own voice and thought, I'm 719 00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:58.640 not being paid for that. And he's great like that, 720 00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.079 to go, hang on, this is our likeness. 721 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:01.440 Our image. 722 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.119 I wonder what they do when they pick up a 723 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:05.599 script like that. I wonder if any of them said, geez, guys, 724 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:06.480 what are we doing? 725 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.759 Harry said. We interviewed him many years ago, Harry and 726 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.960 Harry said there was a moment where, in better terms, 727 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.559 basically said I stopped caring. Was when he said Flanders. 728 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.720 He said Flanders wouldn't say this, and they said it 729 00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:18.680 doesn't matter, and he goes, I realized I was writing 730 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:20.720 jokes and assigning it to characters as opposed to getting 731 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:22.160 a character and writting a joke for them. 732 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:28.880 Oh that is very interesting, okay, because there's a what 733 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.319 I heard an interview with one of the producers once 734 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.039 and he said something very interesting. 735 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:36.119 One of those guys that start, you know, those really 736 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.519 rich guys. There's the guys at the start, really rich 737 00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:41.000 dude to the end of somewhere rich, the. 738 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:42.559 Guys that started really rich. 739 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:46.119 And one of them said he was very into animal 740 00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:49.640 welfare and whatever. Yeah, have you heard him talk about 741 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.440 this where he goes his wife kind said to him, oh, hey, 742 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.759 what are you doing You pay for like some giant 743 00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.839 horse thing somewhere You've spent all our money And he goes. 744 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.000 What day is it? She goes Wednesday. There's no what days? 745 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:03.200 Is it. 746 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:06.359 The eighth? There's eighth? 747 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.799 Okay, yeah, Simpsons check arrives on the fourteenth, so we'll 748 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:12.319 be rich again. 749 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:12.559 There. 750 00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.200 It's a great it's a great line, and it's a 751 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:20.920 great story, and even if it's half through, it's wonderful. 752 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.279 It's stuck with me that line. 753 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:25.119 Also, that wife turned out to be Jennifer Tilly, so 754 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.000 I think Sam Sung was doing right for himself for Tilly. 755 00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:29.759 Yeah, that's interesting. 756 00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:31.200 Okay, we're all learning something. 757 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.519 I'm learned a little something to this episode here though, 758 00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.400 as we're saying, very divisive. I love going back through 759 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.839 the forums from the nineties when season seven eight of 760 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.880 The Simpsons was on and everyone's saying, the show's no 761 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:44.839 good anymore, they need to cancel it. What happened to 762 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.119 add beloved show? This is season seven eight of The Simpsons. 763 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.000 Right, Well, there's everything you need to know. Yeah, there 764 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.359 is everything you need to know. It's like going back 765 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.039 and reading reviews of Shakespeare from people who you know, 766 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.319 from local local wags that saw it, and she's and 767 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.319 said that, you know, she's king lib bang Gon for 768 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.920 a while, so you know, it's that it's there is 769 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.440 no value in review. 770 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:08.359 I'm doing this thing. 771 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.440 SBS is doing a really smart thing at the moment 772 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.920 where they're replaying old David and Margaret movie show episodes, 773 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.839 and the really strong impression you get is this was 774 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.039 a complete waste of time. 775 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:24.759 He hated the. 776 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.279 Castle, hated Romba Stomper, God. 777 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:27.599 Rest his soul. 778 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.759 He's since he sort of walked it back over the 779 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.759 journey and you don't have to love the cars. Well 780 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:36.119 that's fine, whatever, but it's just the other day, it's 781 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.160 just like, oh my goodness, you're right. Review and criticism 782 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.519 in that well you're not trying to push the ball 783 00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.920 forward in any way, is a complete waste of time. 784 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.519 And that must be like those forum people, what was 785 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:53.160 their best case scenario? Like what's a home run? If 786 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:56.200 you're a forum what was good at that time? Also 787 00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.759 like what's a home run for a forum commenter? Yea, 788 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:00.319 what is a home run? 789 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.279 It used to be running first, like you were the 790 00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:03.799 first comment? 791 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.000 Is the thing you go first? So if you were first, 792 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:07.799 so you thought of something first. 793 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.200 I was just saying the word further comment. 794 00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.400 Just saying first, saying anything. 795 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.720 Real Algonquin Roundtable in the forums that's excellent. 796 00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:18.480 That's excellent. 797 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:20.359 Still you still see this ship on YouTube. We put 798 00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.440 a video up and this is like, first, I'm like cool, 799 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.400 thanks all contribution. By the way, as someone who used 800 00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:27.000 to make a living as a as a film critic, 801 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:28.200 my mighty heart is breaking. 802 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:29.759 I'll be in the humpy. 803 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.079 Well well then then let me ask you, then, what 804 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.079 do you think because I've got a rule. I've had 805 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:36.960 a rule that I've tried to that I think should 806 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.039 be enforced. You shouldn't be allowed to write to review 807 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:41.359 a film until you've made on. 808 00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:42.640 Does this count sex tapes? 809 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:44.480 Of course? 810 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:45.119 That's what I mean. 811 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.160 I did an art history degree at UNI, right, and 812 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.119 it was at Sydney University and it was a three 813 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.119 year degree and I got it just under six years. 814 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.000 So I came in under the. 815 00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.279 Wire and I that was just an excuse to be there, 816 00:33:58.279 --> 00:33:59.920 to go and meet people and do comedy, et cetera, 817 00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.279 which it's sort of turned into. 818 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.200 But you know, I'm good in the gallery. 819 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:06.720 With my wife and I went and saw the Impressionist 820 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.599 the other day and I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty good 821 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:09.480 in this gallery and I was. 822 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.679 But you realize, you go, what just what? So what. 823 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.280 So my question to you, as someone who made a 824 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:20.519 living reviewing films, which watch which outlets? 825 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:23.800 I was with the paper down here, the Advertiser, but 826 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:27.079 also did a TV guide that was syndicated around the country. 827 00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:27.599 If you're on the. 828 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.519 Cases as well, said the Advertiser. Right, So let's say 829 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.360 that you're a reviewer for The Guardian today. You know, 830 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.840 before you start watching something, what. 831 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.760 You have to give it that scans you have to like. 832 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:42.920 There are certain things that have to get five starts, 833 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.440 and there are certain things that, if the Guardian is 834 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.320 to maintain itself, have to get one. So in the Advertiser, 835 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:57.639 how did you sift the like, how did you sift? Like, 836 00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:59.519 all right, what are we doing here? It's like because 837 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.199 you have some who likes things, So how did you 838 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.960 sift which things were going to be cannon for Advertiser 839 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.199 readers and viewers. 840 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.239 I like to think they actually gave me a fair 841 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.480 bit of leeway in that regard. I mean I didn't 842 00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.639 really get the word from up top. It's like, okay, 843 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.000 a new Australian movie or say new twentieth century Fox 844 00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.960 product given of the Advertiser. I was never sort of 845 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.760 given a directive in that sense. 846 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.239 I mean, you would have had a sense in your mind, 847 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:27.599 so you're not going to go and watch you know, 848 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:29.320 give me some years, Give me some years that. 849 00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:29.840 That you did it. 850 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:33.039 I was from mid nineties to mid twenty ten. 851 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:35.920 Which is amazing time because there were so many good films. Absolutely, 852 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.519 let's say you went and saw Adaptation, so I know 853 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.119 that if I'm on Triple J I've got to give 854 00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:45.159 it five stars and pretend I know something. Right, what's 855 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:46.880 the what are you doing? Okay, right, I talk to 856 00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:47.639 you about Adaptation? Fun? 857 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:48.519 What am I going to do here? 858 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:52.599 It's a weird thing because I mean I sort of 859 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.039 recognized I'm doing. I'm not really doing in depth film 860 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.000 criticism here. I'm not going here to cinema or something 861 00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.840 like that. I'm basically doing consumer about what you're going 862 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:02.239 to watch on a Saturday night, you know. 863 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.760 Which is great. That's a great service. That's different. 864 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.199 That is a different service because that is the sift, 865 00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.760 and we need people who help more than anything. Now, 866 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.400 the sift. That's a different service. That's a great service. 867 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:14.360 Yeah. But by the time anotation came out, which is 868 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.199 like two thousand and two or whatever, I like to 869 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.559 think the people who were reading my stuff. Realize, Okay, 870 00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:21.960 guy likes this. I can trust him on this. I 871 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:23.920 mean I had friends who were saying, I like reading 872 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:25.800 the reviews because I know what not to watch, because 873 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.239 your taste and mine are completely similar. 874 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.239 Which is that is good? 875 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:35.199 That is that is a worthwhile exercise in the sift 876 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:39.159 what I call the sift, you know, versus just this 877 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:43.280 is shit or this isn't or knowing, like knowing the 878 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:46.039 bias of the thing before you go into it. 879 00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:47.559 Yeah, but the thing of it is, Yeah, you don't 880 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:49.039 want to be sort of you don't want to be 881 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:50.599 a snob, but you don't want to be sort of 882 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.039 down talking either. You don't want to be saying well, 883 00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.119 folks go and enjoy Independence Day. I guess yeah, I know. 884 00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:57.599 See that's the thing that's key. 885 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.960 Like what about like something like armageddon or you know, 886 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.360 do you know where that rubber hits the road with this? 887 00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:04.480 Connie, I was. 888 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.400 A kid in Conne. I loved Conye but the best Yeah, yeah, 889 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.599 it was great. Yeah, I mean it's it's it knows 890 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:12.039 because it knows exactly what it's trying to be. 891 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:16.039 Yeah, that's exactly right. It's coherent and it's a little 892 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:17.840 bit smarter than it needs to be, but it also 893 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.519 just hits you in the pleasure center because that's its job. 894 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:21.800 Yeah, exactly right. 895 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.320 We're gonna throw Dave Chappelle out of a plane. Sorry 896 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:26.920 spoiler for conne folks, but you know, and Nicolas Cage 897 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.960 is going to speak in this weird drawl and Malcovich 898 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.360 is going to chew the scenery. But at the same time, 899 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.760 you know, you've got that line where they're introducing ving 900 00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:36.400 Range's character and is like, yeah, he wrote his revolutionary 901 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.719 manifesto in jail. They're looking at Denzel for the lead. 902 00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:42.599 It's like, that's great fucking funny and that's smart, and 903 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.159 you know that's smuggling the dog medicine and the peanut 904 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.400 butter is what I'm doing. 905 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:47.880 So ye, it's getting back to the cenisons. 906 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.159 We're better get back to the point being that no 907 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:52.840 one does it better than they do, and that's what 908 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.320 this episode is. That's why I bring it up, because 909 00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:56.880 no one does it better than they do over a 910 00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:58.960 long period of time, and that's why I was interested. 911 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:00.840 When you're talking about Home or sounds like, I wonder 912 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.280 if what Harry Shira said there is very instructive because 913 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:09.039 that makes you go, all right, that attitude times ten people, 914 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.719 and you can lose the idea of the sort of 915 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:14.039 gauge of what Home is up to. 916 00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:15.320 That's how it could happen. 917 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:17.960 Yeah, because so many times recently haven't we said that's 918 00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:20.280 a funny line. Doesn't really suit that character though, but 919 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.440 it's just yeah, and it feels like recently we say 920 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.440 recently season twenty one they picked that. It's like the 921 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:26.599 writers whom have their favorites for the season. So sidehame 922 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.599 Mail in like season nineteen twenty appeared in like every 923 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.719 single episode with a big monologue. This guy picked like 924 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:34.280 ten episodes in the Golden Ear and now is in 925 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:35.199 every episode. 926 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:36.559 Well, his best joke. 927 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:41.199 Is when bart is I think he's the one where 928 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:45.239 he's the preacher and he's dancing down the aisle and 929 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.320 faith off, yeah, faith off, and Si Joe Male stands 930 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.920 up and says he's kicking at the old school like that. 931 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.440 That's that's the side Joe Mail's joke is to be 932 00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.559 contemporary in a Shakespearean and the. 933 00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.519 Stuff he was yeah, yeah, but when he's doing it 934 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.079 every episode, yeah, it was bizarre. 935 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:02.880 Yeah. 936 00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.000 Yeah, Well, one thing I do love about Simpsons D 937 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.400 again is that I feel like they introduced me to 938 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.440 so many key elements of pop culture about me even 939 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.119 realizing it. There are so many moments where you' watching 940 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.559 it going as a kid, I don't know what's happening here, 941 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:16.119 but this has to be something. 942 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:16.559 Yeah. 943 00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:19.159 And I've heard a few people on your guests on 944 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.000 your show say, and you know, even yourselves that when 945 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.760 you watched it initially, if you watched it with someone 946 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.599 older and something they laughed at that you didn't understand. 947 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.280 And my son, one of the things I love with 948 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:33.840 my son is I made a stupid rod for my 949 00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:37.360 own back back was when he was started to talk 950 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.039 and asked I said to myself, I will never say 951 00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:41.159 I don't know to him. If he asked me something, 952 00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:43.159 I will never say I don't know. So I'll say 953 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.119 I'll either know it or I'll say all right, and 954 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:46.880 then we'll work it out. Because I've got the whole world. 955 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.119 I've got everything that's ever been known ever in my pocket. 956 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.440 I have no right to say to him I don't know, 957 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.760 because that's just laziness to not look into the machine 958 00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:57.719 that knows everything ever and tell him. 959 00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.800 Yeah, but did you forget about the bandless curiosity be young. 960 00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:02.920 That's the issue. 961 00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:07.079 I'm like, I'm like a fucking town librarian. I am 962 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:07.599 all gay. 963 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.719 I'm making I'm making the JFK Records Act every fucking 964 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.840 day because I am down in the weeds of this kid. 965 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.719 And sadly, he's got a bit of my pedantry about him, 966 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:19.400 which is, you know, tough going for all of us. 967 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.320 But it's like meeting myself. It's awful and where he's 968 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:25.400 the greatest. But you know what I'm saying, I was like, oh, 969 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:26.719 this must be one of us to be around, like 970 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:27.840 to be around. 971 00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:29.960 Me, So then HEKMA. 972 00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:34.880 But anyway, he's the greatest thing of all time. Of course, 973 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:36.639 as is my daughter who's three years old. And my 974 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.119 secret found me. They're nice too, so they so you know, 975 00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.360 I never say that. So I'm now we watch pause, 976 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.360 what Daddy, what's a you know, well, who's Richard Nixon's 977 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:49.800 Is that Richard Nixon's enemies list? I'm like, yeah, okay, 978 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:54.119 that one. I know, no worries every time. We're just 979 00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.400 watching and he's just he says, Daddy watched this. Daddy 980 00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.320 was at Daddy was this, And I love it because 981 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.400 I am thrilled by the idea of going, oh, okay, 982 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.599 well they're referencing a movie where this happens, or that's 983 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.320 because this person used to do that, or that's based 984 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:09.239 on this person. 985 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.199 I love it and he's interested. 986 00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:15.719 Yes, it's just it's so fun to sit there with 987 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.320 him and just sort of, you know, pick the references 988 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:19.800 as we go. 989 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:20.719 It's so fun. 990 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.039 There's nothing better than being able to teach, except being 991 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:24.840 able to teach someone who really wants to learn. 992 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.159 Yeah, exactly, And while we're laughing, while we'll laughing, you know, 993 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:30.360 it's just he just laughing. 994 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.679 He just laughs about it. Does he ever turn to 995 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:34.800 you to sort of go, was that funny? Like my son, 996 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:36.320 I find someone I'm watching it and I'm laughing sort 997 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:37.519 of look at me, and he goes, oh, that must 998 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:38.559 be funny. I'm gona laugh as well. 999 00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.320 That was Nixon's enemies list. When I saw it, I laughed, 1000 00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.239 and he goes, who's that? I go, all right, here 1001 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.199 we go Nixon blah blah blah blah blah. 1002 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:50.000 This show is brought to you by the four figure 1003 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.039 discount Patreon, where you'll find over one hundred hours of 1004 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.639 bonus podcasts, including exclusive Simpsons reviews and commentaries, as well 1005 00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.800 as exclusive episodes of Going Down the South Park, Tales 1006 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.079 of Futurama, Bob's Pods, Speaking of the Hill, Talking Seifeld, 1007 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:07.960 the One about Friends, and so much more. So go 1008 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:11.159 ahead and join the family today at patreon dot com 1009 00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.360 slash four figure discount. 1010 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:18.960 My favorite favorite moments, it's when he Grimey rots out 1011 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:23.159 to the house and this that the first, the disheveled 1012 00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.800 nature of Grimy, that he's going to another job, and 1013 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.440 that the family's all lined up and everyone's perfect. It's 1014 00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:31.960 this tiny moment where he goes, Simpson, I have to 1015 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.079 get to my job, and he stops me. 1016 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.440 He goes, he goes with his house. 1017 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.679 That's I love that bit because just so it's funny, 1018 00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:45.760 but it's just so, it's perfectly written, it's perfectly timed. 1019 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:47.800 It's just so perfect. 1020 00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.280 One of my favorites is an immediate follow on from that, 1021 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:51.599 where he's like, how can you afford to live in 1022 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.199 a house? Lives at home? Is like, don't ask me 1023 00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:55.159 how the economy works. 1024 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.000 Don't ask me how the economy works. Is just her. 1025 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.199 It's so spot on. I agree with you. 1026 00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.679 The first the opening montage to get us to know 1027 00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:05.239 what Grimy is. 1028 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.880 Like, is just abanded by his parents at the age four. 1029 00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:11.760 Heaven Delivering presents the more fortunate. 1030 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:18.039 Delivering presents the more fortunate. I mean, you're never going 1031 00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:19.840 to write a joke as good as that. You can 1032 00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:21.880 just hope that at some point you're. 1033 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.800 Close pitching himself to feel pain again. 1034 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.760 Healthy and fails to feel pain again. Oh man, that is. 1035 00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.280 And then the dog, the dog, the first part of 1036 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:32.880 the dog, get me that dog, And then the dog's 1037 00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:34.599 barking at Grimy when he's cross with you. 1038 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:39.000 That is threatening, threatening of a job they didn't even 1039 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:39.880 ask for in the first place. 1040 00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:40.840 We didn't want. 1041 00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:44.519 That's just so wonderful. And tell you what else is really 1042 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.000 good in the b story when Bart wanders past the 1043 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:49.039 thing what gonna get for a Latin number of seventy 1044 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:55.440 one seventy a buck? The phrase a buck, and then 1045 00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:57.639 that the little auction you're going off. 1046 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:07.079 That's all. I'm just looking at Dando's notes here under favorites, 1047 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:11.039 and we've both got hey, hey, stretch, what's the good 1048 00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:14.800 work so much? 1049 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:18.079 Because he's not being a jerk, he's trying to be nice. 1050 00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:22.679 Yeah, but I can see how that would get incredibly irritated. 1051 00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.840 I stretch, what's yeah, that's a really good joke as well, 1052 00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.960 so that that that's my the chief And then of 1053 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:35.360 course everyone's favorite moment when Grimy or Grimy as you 1054 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.559 into the coffin's the channel mode and everyone starts laughing 1055 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:43.199 that is my son really laughed at that, and I 1056 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.679 really laughed at that, and you go, because that's one 1057 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:48.440 of those things where they've written it so well that 1058 00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:49.880 you're thinking to yourself. 1059 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:51.719 How are they going to get themselves out of this one? 1060 00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.920 And then watching my son, Oh, I died, I died, 1061 00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:59.719 and then he laughs at changed the channel, change the gam. 1062 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.280 Just what's what to say about the death of Grimy? 1063 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.079 Ry was asking for it? 1064 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:08.480 Classic spots well done. 1065 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.039 One of the great things about him is you will 1066 00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:15.119 never pin him down to sincerity, and that is just 1067 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:18.440 such a fresh air in my dream in life. Is 1068 00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:19.960 that he gets forced to go on one of those 1069 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.079 shows that I call Millionaires winging, where rich people go 1070 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.199 on podcast to cry about how vulnerable they are. 1071 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:28.360 That is. 1072 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.920 CEO fucking see it. 1073 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:36.199 So they yeah. 1074 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.000 So that to me is just that's one thing I 1075 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:42.199 love about him. And there's such a nineties attitude, that 1076 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.880 is a nineties attitude done to perfection, that that sort 1077 00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:48.760 of I don't want to sell out even though I'm 1078 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:53.639 a zillion are staying mildly what's the word cantankerous, but 1079 00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.000 not being an asshole about it. It was just what Conan. 1080 00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:58.239 I've heard Conan speak about it before. You know, Conan 1081 00:45:58.239 --> 00:45:59.960 talked about how it was the worst time of his life. 1082 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.559 It was the best time of his life. But you 1083 00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.440 realize with Conan, because he's such a crazy, goofy affable fellow, 1084 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:11.559 that the discipline which he talks about that was drummed 1085 00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:15.840 into him in those in those years while he retained 1086 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.119 that zaniness is just so great. That's why though his 1087 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.280 episodes are so good, I think because it's his insanity 1088 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:26.239 and zaniness butting up against. 1089 00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.119 The swartsworlders of this world. That just going nut. 1090 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:29.760 It's got to have an edge to it, it's got 1091 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:32.840 to have a bit of cantankerous to it. And so 1092 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:34.960 but you don't lose any spirit when you do it. 1093 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:39.119 And the Conan episodes, I think have the best supplementary 1094 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.920 characters that that that that we get. 1095 00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:46.519 Through Laura Langley, Laura Powers and and the three nerds. 1096 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.239 Was that he you would call yeah, yeah, there's the Dean. 1097 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:59.440 Oh yeah, if you want to, and straight away you go, well, 1098 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.039 now the Pretenders, I don't know the pretenders were. 1099 00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.320 My boss, Pete was a music nerd, so he told 1100 00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.159 me who the pretenders were, and then we would watch 1101 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:07.840 a pretender's think, I do you know the pretenders were? 1102 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:08.519 That he showed me. 1103 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:10.360 That's the thing when they're throw in gags like that. 1104 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.239 I mean, I forgot which episode it is, but Martin 1105 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.559 Prince has some gag where it's like first call against 1106 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:19.880 ten tickets a super tramp, super. 1107 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.480 Tramp and everyone laughs, and having done commercial radio, I'm like, 1108 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:23.320 that's me. 1109 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.920 I have done versions of that. Well, let's not forget that. 1110 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:31.639 When the when when the Flanders loses this house and 1111 00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:34.519 they have to go to the strip shop to get clothes, 1112 00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:39.239 is it Todds in a butthole surface? Yes, look look daddy, 1113 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.239 I'm a surfer. And of course you go. 1114 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:43.280 That's funny, okay. 1115 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.559 They had that one single, and apart from that, they 1116 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.800 were like an Narco Siminus commune who played weird jam music, 1117 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.599 which you know, something that close to him brings to 1118 00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:53.920 mind and you go, yeah, and the big and then 1119 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:56.519 you go, oh, that's funny. And then you subsequent reading 1120 00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.679 years later, reading something close to him, wrote, you go yeah, 1121 00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:03.599 and they awes them to shriek to uh, to abbreviate 1122 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.800 it to the BS no, to the B eight surfers 1123 00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.880 when it was on radio, and you know, so that's 1124 00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:10.719 just a that's a six level joke, which is as 1125 00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:11.440 good as it gets. 1126 00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:11.920 Oh yeah. 1127 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:14.840 Another moment for me is the super relatable not even 1128 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:16.400 in the ape, it's in the B plot and it's 1129 00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.400 relatable as I get old as a kid, didn't quite 1130 00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:21.280 get why this was funny, but Millhouse was walking around saying, so, 1131 00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:24.159 this is my life, this is. 1132 00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:27.119 My life is It's like, you know, you know, you 1133 00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:28.719 guys talk a lot about things to get means, and 1134 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.119 of course the number one is that through the which 1135 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.039 through the hedge is you know, one day I'd love 1136 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:39.719 someone to do a really good, smart definitive how the 1137 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.679 fuck did through the Hedge become the meme to end 1138 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:43.239 all memes. 1139 00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.440 I'm the same with steamed hands and it's not a 1140 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.719 funny joke, but it's a great reaction. It's a gift. 1141 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.280 Yeah yeah, but what's that? 1142 00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.519 How did it go from that in a Simpsons episode 1143 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.400 to a world star of Now. 1144 00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:56.440 It's a funk o pop. 1145 00:48:56.760 --> 00:49:00.599 Well, I'd love to anyway, I'd I would just I'd 1146 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:00.880 love that. 1147 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:02.000 I'd love to know that. 1148 00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.519 Also, Kner wrote the New York episode, which didn't make 1149 00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:05.960 my list but. 1150 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.239 Should have now a the Three, didn't He Yeah, because 1151 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:11.840 he wrotes the city of New York versus Homer. Now 1152 00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:13.280 that was like season that was like season eight. He 1153 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:14.280 less in like season four. 1154 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.559 I thought he wrote nine. I thought he wrote some 1155 00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:17.679 of that one for nine. 1156 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.199 Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe maybe he contributed to it. Yeah, 1157 00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.199 but he's a soul writer on the Okay, maybe you're right. 1158 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:23.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but. 1159 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.000 That's got the Well, that's not the world's greatest joke 1160 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:25.199 in it. 1161 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:29.159 Give me again a drink Mountain j. 1162 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.679 Or crab juice, crab juice, Give me a crab juice. 1163 00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:37.679 And then years later that guy in an episode where 1164 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:41.199 he's got a crab juice and hula halash like Empire 1165 00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:42.079 around America. 1166 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.920 Yeah, Cam, I so good, am I? 1167 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.320 But who's got that institutional memory? 1168 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.159 They're sitting there, they're going, we need someone who sells food, 1169 00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.840 and someone goes you know what, what if the guy 1170 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.800 from fifteen years ago who sold hull halash and crab 1171 00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:59.239 juice on a street vending machine. Now, like, who who 1172 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:00.880 is the person you go to find this out for me? 1173 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:02.239 And I'd love you to let me who is the 1174 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.880 person who holds the institutional memory at the Simpsons as 1175 00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.239 it Gene? I would love is it our Gene? 1176 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:11.039 Yeah, because he's the guy that go to and he'll 1177 00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:13.159 go we did that in episode seven four zero to 1178 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.039 season twelve, we can't do it again. 1179 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:16.000 I love that. 1180 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.320 Yeah, that's so it's ol Gene who does that. 1181 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:20.800 Yeah, but he was out at the start and he 1182 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.119 left for a while to do the critic and then 1183 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:23.480 he came back critics. 1184 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:23.719 Great. 1185 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:28.760 Yeah, it's dense. That's a whole backstory between the critic 1186 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.039 and versus the Simpsons where they Matt Granny was not 1187 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:36.760 a fan. That's because they brought the character onto the Simpsons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1188 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:37.960 I know it spit dodgy. 1189 00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:39.800 Yeah, that's one of those that's one of those who 1190 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:41.320 came up with this scenario. 1191 00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.519 Yeah, you know. But but following for me is that 1192 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.880 I do love the Smithers. Smithers is gay gags from 1193 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:48.639 the folding the Golden here, which was just subtle enough 1194 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:50.239 where if you're a kid, didn't really know what's going on. 1195 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.400 But when Ralph brings out the malibous Stacey dream house, 1196 00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:53.199 it's pretty good, sir. 1197 00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.679 It's pretty good, sir. It's a great joke. It's pretty good, 1198 00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:03.119 sir that I think. Do you know what I realized? 1199 00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:05.719 You know when I got that joke? I know exactly. 1200 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.480 I remember the exact moment where I was like, oh, 1201 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:11.360 I think you might be gay. I can't remember which 1202 00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.920 episode it is, but you'll tell me. When they turned 1203 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.480 on Smithers's computer and. 1204 00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:24.679 He's, hello, Smithers, quite good turning me on, you probably 1205 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:25.480 should ignore that. 1206 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.760 Yeah, now you know, because it's up to me because 1207 00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:30.519 I've got to go and do a thing in the minute. 1208 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:32.480 So here's my I've got to I'm gonna leave you 1209 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.880 with I'm going to tell you my marathon. 1210 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:36.599 Yeah marathon. 1211 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.400 Now I'm going to leave you with the joke that 1212 00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.280 is that is currently inspiring a show that we are 1213 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:44.840 trying to make me and me and people who know 1214 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.239 that I reference every day when we're doing it and 1215 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.880 even send them the video Simpson's joke that changes everything. 1216 00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:53.320 Here we go, So mine is monorail, because you have 1217 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:56.039 to have monail. It's just the way it is. I'm sorry, 1218 00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:57.440 but it's just the way it is. The other day 1219 00:51:57.440 --> 00:51:59.800 I heard something someone get on a soccer show gets 1220 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.559 something wrong about the Simpsons episode. 1221 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:01.960 Mate. 1222 00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:07.159 I was close to a four on I know the 1223 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.239 guy that does show, and I almost text him like, 1224 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:15.360 whoa wait? A star is Burns the film the film 1225 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:18.239 with a critic as a firm film criticuing because it's 1226 00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.440 got my son's favorite joke in it. Can you guess 1227 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:22.800 what my seven year old son's favorite Simpsons. 1228 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:23.079 Joke so far? 1229 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.239 I'm getting hit by football is a George. She's got 1230 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:26.039 getting hit in the nuts? 1231 00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:30.000 Yeah, grind football in the boy. 1232 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:31.719 Yeah. My son loves it to just he loves the 1233 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.440 sound offfect dwink. The joint is perfect and Homer's follow 1234 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:38.559 up laugh absolutely is just the button. 1235 00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:40.360 Takes him a second to get it. 1236 00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:45.039 My son is helpless, so we'll play football outside and 1237 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:46.599 then I was just pretending to get hitting the groan 1238 00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:48.960 and go football in the ground and he is helpless. 1239 00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.119 Home of the great You have to you just can't not. 1240 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.400 You can't if you don't love the stone kind of 1241 00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:57.280 I'm sorry. I can't help you. I can't help you 1242 00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:58.679 if you don't think that's the best thing to ever happened. 1243 00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:00.880 I supporters on Patreon arrasting that we call them. 1244 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.360 That's perfect. Home is the Enemy, and then Homer Batman 1245 00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:04.880 is mine. 1246 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:06.719 Oh yeah, that's rock bottom. 1247 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:13.599 It's just so, it's like it's starring Dennis friand Dennis 1248 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.840 France is in that yes, running over a cat. 1249 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:21.079 It's just yeah, it's got everything. Once again. Take the 1250 00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:25.039 date off it, change the aspect ratio, polish it up, 1251 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.400 put it out today, and you'll be hailed as a genius. 1252 00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:29.000 It's more reliable now than it was then. 1253 00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:33.519 Mate, don't take your anger around on me. 1254 00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:35.119 It's nineteen ninety four. 1255 00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.440 How did they amazing? 1256 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:42.360 And I'll leave you with this. So talking Krusty is 1257 00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:46.760 in the Lisa Versus Malibu Stacey, right, and so please 1258 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:49.400 put this in after I wander off. Now, So Lisa 1259 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.079 is about to go and record Lisa Lionheart on the 1260 00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:52.760 door opens. 1261 00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:53.559 Crusty's in a. 1262 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:56.679 Tennis uniform, all right, and he runs through the thing. 1263 00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:57.320 He's got a cigar. 1264 00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.199 Hey, hey, okay, here we go talking crasty lines. Yeah, 1265 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:03.760 I'm talking crusty. Take take two, say Jill Mouth, Si 1266 00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:07.800 chi Mouth, I'm done, and he leaves and you hear 1267 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:10.679 the cargo and then they pan back and the guy 1268 00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.159 is putting the real on to record it, and he says, Okay, Kristy, 1269 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:19.159 we're ready to Kresty. And Krusty's gone. So we're trying 1270 00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:20.280 to make the show and there's got a lot of 1271 00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.679 cameos in it. And I've been testing this thing. It's 1272 00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:27.119 called talking crusty. If you've got someone who you're asking 1273 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:29.800 for their time, and they're giving you their time, which 1274 00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:34.199 is great. Your only job is to be ready for 1275 00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:34.960 when they get there. 1276 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:36.079 That's it. 1277 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.440 That's all you gotta do. If you're ready for them, 1278 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:41.280 then let them get the fuck out of there, because 1279 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:44.320 they've got whatever it is, they're busy, and so you 1280 00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:46.920 go all good. That talking Krusty is such a great 1281 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:51.679 metaphor for just fucking get just hurry up, hurry up life. 1282 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:53.880 Lesson, learn from a professional kid. 1283 00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:59.119 Professional kid, because he's he's right, says arming and ring 1284 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:00.519 and wasting everyone's time. 1285 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:04.360 Thanks, he's right first, he is. 1286 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:10.079 Right, Yeah, all right, Well thank you so much. I 1287 00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:11.400 do I know you're a very busy man, we do 1288 00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:13.480 appreciate you being here this week and yeah, all the 1289 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:15.480 best for it comes in twenty twenty five. 1290 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:17.440 Well it's been a pleasure, guys, thank you very much 1291 00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:18.960 for having me. It's a great show. I love that 1292 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.039 you're doing it. It's just such a great thing to 1293 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.599 be celebrating it. And long way it continue because it's 1294 00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.440 I'm loving the interviews you get. It's really fast, even 1295 00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.159 for Simpson's nerd like me. It's absolutely fascinating. So well 1296 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:30.800 done to both of you. 1297 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:37.039 Jed, appreciate it. Come back anytime, mate, Thanks Jed's. 1298 00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:45.400 I said is Ed Cavaliy's portion of this week's show. 1299 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.800 What a gentleman, what a character, what a professional. 1300 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.039 Very very much so. I mean we all have I 1301 00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:54.480 think a long standing relationship with Ed from the Australian 1302 00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:59.440 entertainment community everybody, and he generally comes across as a 1303 00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:05.639 very pleasant kind of brought the heater. He was throbbing fast. Great, 1304 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:07.320 it was great, it was fantastic. I loved it. 1305 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:12.159 Yeah, no, come back any type. But right now we're 1306 00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:14.400 gonna be doing our run through portion of Homy's Enemy 1307 00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:15.920 because you know he's a very busy man. Ad So 1308 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:17.400 we got out. We've got an hour out of him. 1309 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:25.800 That's he's got you know, pie too, remember the rest 1310 00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:27.599 he schooled us? 1311 00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.199 Absolutely? But yeah, okay, let's have your time, trip your time? 1312 00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:30.480 Why not? 1313 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:31.679 Next question? 1314 00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:33.639 You there eating the paste? 1315 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:35.960 All right, go for it, my face. Your first question. 1316 00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:40.519 My first question home had how many beers at lunch? Oh? 1317 00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:41.800 Ten? 1318 00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:43.039 Three? 1319 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.119 Three? All right? My first question is gramy got a 1320 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:48.599 diploma in nuclear physics with a minor in what. 1321 00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:50.000 A minor in determination? 1322 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:52.320 Got? 1323 00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:53.760 That whole news story was fantastic. 1324 00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:54.519 I know, we'll get there. 1325 00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:57.239 Whose bordello was it? 1326 00:56:58.400 --> 00:56:58.559 Man? 1327 00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:01.280 I should know. I should have rewatched it this morning. No, 1328 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:06.119 what was it? Aunt Bulah, Bulla's bordello? Yes, Bulla's bordello. 1329 00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.119 My next question is Bart's factory? Was item number? 1330 00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:09.320 What? 1331 00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:10.519 Oh? 1332 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:12.920 Damn, I'm gonna say two. 1333 00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.519 Seven fifty one, so I'm completely wrong. 1334 00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:18.000 Uh. And my last question. 1335 00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:22.320 For you is what is Lisa's iq ah? This was 1336 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.239 part of the trivia night that we went to recently. 1337 00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:26.320 Is it one? 1338 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:27.239 You're after a good start? 1339 00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.320 One forty seven, You're very close on fifty seven? One five, 1340 00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:34.239 five six, damn? Because no one? And then I didn't know. 1341 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:35.400 I was like, when did they do that' like it's 1342 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.280 in Home's Enemy and I'm like, oh shit, I shouldn't go. 1343 00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:41.320 Everyone's see the see the words there, that's that guy. 1344 00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:46.280 I just write the questions. No, I just read the questions. 1345 00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:48.840 Are we going to host any trivia ardwer We are? 1346 00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:50.239 I think we shure we will. 1347 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:52.320 Yeah. Yeah, partly because it's fun and partly because you 1348 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:53.119 know when I get paid. 1349 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.719 Yes, yes we will. Indeed, it's coming up. Sorry, what 1350 00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.239 a grifter I am. That's terrible. My final question is 1351 00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.880 who was on mo slash Richard Nicks enemy list? Give 1352 00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:01.679 me two of the names. 1353 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:02.599 Oh god, damn it. 1354 00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:07.039 I just Jane Fonder, Daniel Shaw and Jack Anderson Jack Anderson. 1355 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:08.320 Okay, Jane Fond was on there. 1356 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:12.400 She did not like Nixon at all. 1357 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:14.960 No, she was. She was very political back in the day. 1358 00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:18.480 Good and consider what a huge star she was. I mean, 1359 00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:20.679 that's it's pretty ballsy. I mean it'd be someone like 1360 00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:24.039 you know, Jay Law or Margot Robbie coming out now 1361 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:28.760 and basically saying if you mister Trump, yeah, but or 1362 00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:31.039 Taylor Swift even I don't think she's going to do that. 1363 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:32.920 I just jacked up our se. 1364 00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:34.840 Oh by the way, but Taylor, We're going to buy 1365 00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.280 another other streaming services are. 1366 00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:43.000 As our own personal pr We love you Taylor. 1367 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:45.400 All right, let's get into her review showing why not 1368 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:46.719 give me have one more question? I know you want 1369 00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:46.960 to do it? 1370 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:49.920 No, no, I don't I have one more That sort 1371 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:52.239 of an adjunct to the first question, which was, like, 1372 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:56.559 by Heleni's count, how many times should Homer have died by? 1373 00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:56.800 Now? 1374 00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.199 Okay, three hundred and sixteen sixteen? 1375 00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:03.440 I said to you, gotta keep all this in. 1376 00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:05.840 He said, no, there's a good chance that he might 1377 00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:12.159 have just to make me look cool, enjoy there's by 1378 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:18.000 I'll be a clip. Come back anytime then, Kevin, and 1379 00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:19.400 you'll want to really watch it. 1380 00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.440 I hope that's racking up numbers. That's that's my best 1381 00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:25.920 clip today. You're you're the one who made it, but 1382 00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.880 I mean I'm the stone forget you forgetting. 1383 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:40.760 All right, still kind of shout outs. Before we get 1384 00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:42.679 into today's run through, We've got Katy g with her 1385 00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:44.760 incredible one hundred O sport. Thanks you to watch Katy G. 1386 00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:48.239 Thank you, Katie and Glenn Gomez, Justin Parker, Zach Pruitt, 1387 00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:52.599 Shanny Macker, Elliott J. O'Neil, Isabella Murphy, Reach Beasley, Stephen Roberts, 1388 00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:56.480 Sean d V, Pete Anderson, Timothy Burlson, Andrew Davis, Kevin Dazel, 1389 00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:58.800 planned flood of Ballo, Window and Jack McFadden, Heath Apple, 1390 00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:01.880 be Adam McCloud, tre Leven Ginger and Pickle Preston Murray, 1391 01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:05.480 Talia Enriquez, Declan Phoenix, Brian McCoy, Logan b James Shepherd, 1392 01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:08.800 Joe Ridden, Sect, Dave Pretzels McNally, Gavinlang, Dammy Miller, Charlie 1393 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:10.760 Joe and Abigail B. Shapcat. I think if it being 1394 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:13.440 stonecut at top Tier Supporters of ours at fourth Finger Discount, 1395 01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:15.679 absolute champions, each of every single one of those people aren't. 1396 01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:20.000 There, Oh my gosh, Yes, love, adore, respect, admire. 1397 01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:20.559 But I grew up. 1398 01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:21.719 We're going to marry all of them. 1399 01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:24.760 This show is brought to you by the four Finger 1400 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.840 Discount Patreon, where you'll find over one hundred hours of 1401 01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:32.440 bonus podcasts, including exclusive Simpson's reviews and commentaries, as well 1402 01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:35.599 as exclusive episodes of Going Down to South Park, Tales 1403 01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:39.920 of Futurama, Bob's Pods, Speaking of the Hill, Talking Sifould 1404 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.760 the one about friends and so much more. So go 1405 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:46.000 ahead and join the family today at patreon dot com 1406 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.239 slash four finger discount. Right. So, the original edit of 1407 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:53.360 Homer's Enemy was May fourth, nineteen ninety seven. Sometimes the 1408 01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:55.760 top three films at the US box office A bit 1409 01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:57.880 of a hint there, what do you think they were? 1410 01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:01.920 Number one was, oh, I think of the date nineteen 1411 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:05.519 ninety seven and the date May the fourth on nineteen 1412 01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:08.800 ninety seven. What came out in ninety seven? It's the 1413 01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:10.960 re release of st Star Wars Special Editions. Yeah, so 1414 01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:15.519 number three was Empire Strikes Back. Number two was Dottie Brascot, 1415 01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:18.760 and number one was a New Hope. So George had 1416 01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:22.360 two of the top three boxes of films he'd already made, 1417 01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:25.599 What a Grifter? What a Grifter? But you know, were 1418 01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:27.400 loving for it. But I remember going to see those 1419 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:29.679 Star Wars Special editions. That was the first time I've 1420 01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:32.639 obviously seen Star Wars in the cinema, and I remember 1421 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:35.119 seeing the jab of the Hut and going even as 1422 01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:37.159 like a I would have been what eight going in Q? 1423 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:39.719 Pretty good? Yeah, I do remember that. I can remember 1424 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:42.440 watching the new stories for it, saying new scenes of 1425 01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:44.920 Star Wars. It felt exciting at the time. Oh sure, Yeah, 1426 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.159 it's like check out this new scene of a pound 1427 01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:48.639 solo and jab of the heart and stuff like that. 1428 01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:51.039 And then you're watching it and you're like, like when 1429 01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:56.079 he's going up and over the tail in twenty twenty five, 1430 01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:57.159 they haven't fixed. 1431 01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.519 It still looks shit even the whole You know, Harn 1432 01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:04.559 shot first thing. They need, no need. It was clear 1433 01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:06.760 that greed I was going to kill him. Yah. Hahn 1434 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.320 was well truly justified and shooting first because Greta was 1435 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:10.599 about to shoot. Correct. 1436 01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:12.039 Yes, he doesn't have the wait to be shot act 1437 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:13.079 before he has to shoot somebody. 1438 01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:15.880 That's right, And you know it builds Harn's story as well. 1439 01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:17.599 I mean he starts off he's a little bit Ruthlessly'm 1440 01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:19.280 not sure percent sure if you can trust this guy 1441 01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:23.400 by the end who comes back to help save the day. Chewey. 1442 01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:26.000 That's right. Spoilers for Star Wars. 1443 01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:27.840 That's what Ali got out of his charing. 1444 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:30.320 Did a fist pump I should hope so yeah, hopefully 1445 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.239 didn't hit anybody. 1446 01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:34.679 The chop ball gave for this episode. I did not 1447 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:37.400 learn everything I need to know in kindergarten, which is 1448 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.639 reused from the episode You Only Moved Twice with Hank 1449 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.960 Hank Scorpio and the Causch gave bart Is green so 1450 01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:43.800 have a read just the TV to fix his color 1451 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:45.320 and then slaps him on the back of the head 1452 01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:47.320 to fix it all up. The episode kicks off with 1453 01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:49.800 a Brocklyn news report, which, if true, means death for 1454 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:51.079 us was touched on. 1455 01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:52.159 With Ed, one of my favorite sis. 1456 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:55.559 Yes, now it's Kent's People and there's the Franks Graham story. 1457 01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:58.599 So we've already touched on with Ed, but the abandoned 1458 01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:00.199 at by his parents at the age of four, and 1459 01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:03.840 they film it. It's the drup you way and Frank's 1460 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:05.960 look like a four year old is going, oh well, 1461 01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.039 this is my life. 1462 01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:14.400 And now Cat's People. Tonight's inspiring story is about Frank Grimes, 1463 01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.639 a thirty five year old Springfield height who's earned everything 1464 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:21.000 the hard way but never let adversity get him down. 1465 01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.920 Abandoned by his parents at age four, Frank never got 1466 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:27.800 to go to school. He spent his childhood years as 1467 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:31.760 a delivery boy delivering toys to more fortunate children. 1468 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:33.519 Then on his. 1469 01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:37.199 Eighteenth birthday, he was blown up in a silo explosion. 1470 01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:42.519 During his long recuperation, he taught himself to hear and 1471 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.440 feel pain again. As the years passed, he used his 1472 01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:48.559 few leisure moments each day to study science by mail. 1473 01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:52.400 And last week Frank Grimes, the man who had to 1474 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:56.960 struggle for everything he ever got, received his correspondence school 1475 01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:02.000 diploma in nuclear physics with a minor in determination. 1476 01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:07.119 They're sitting up from the get go that life's not 1477 01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:08.639 going to be easy for this guy. 1478 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.079 But nevertheless still going to power through because he believes 1479 01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.000 that if you work hard and believe in yourself, you know, 1480 01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:17.039 and commit, things will eventually go right for you. 1481 01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:19.320 Clearly never watched the Simpsons because the lesson has never tried, 1482 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:22.559 has never tried. Yes, but mister Burns is watching this 1483 01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:24.320 on the TV, and he realized that's the kind of 1484 01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:26.440 man that he wants working for him, must have making 1485 01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:27.920 his junior vice president. 1486 01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:29.440 A scraper, a self made band like me. 1487 01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:32.519 So he asked me this to bring him so he 1488 01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:34.639 can make him the executive executive vice president. I'm not 1489 01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:37.719 junior vice prist the executive vice president. The next day, Smithers 1490 01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:40.679 brings in old Roaming and mister Burns has completely forgotten 1491 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:42.199 about him because he's now seen a story about a 1492 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:44.239 brave dog who pulled a todder from the path of 1493 01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.360 a spinning car and push a criminal right in front 1494 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:49.239 of it. Find to me, you find this dog to 1495 01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:51.480 make him my junior vice president. Well, that's the dog's 1496 01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:54.280 junior vice president. Yes, and he introduces Frank Grimes, who 1497 01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:56.559 put him somewhere out of the way and find that dogging. 1498 01:04:56.599 --> 01:04:58.840 It feels so so over Grimy, as I said with ed, 1499 01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.199 he didn't ask for this job. He got brought in 1500 01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:03.039 and hidden. 1501 01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:06.679 And it just turned out terribly for him. By the way, 1502 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.639 we're just as complicit. You'll call him grimy from the 1503 01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:11.519 get go. It's not his name. It's not his nickname 1504 01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:12.039 that he wants. 1505 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:16.280 I don't care what gives stretch. 1506 01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:17.599 Who cares what this guy wants? 1507 01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:21.360 So Homer is now spinning on his chair. Chair goes round, chair, 1508 01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:24.079 goes round. Lenny and can ask if you're busy. Yep, 1509 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:26.760 I'm busy. And it suggests we should probably meet Frank Grimes. 1510 01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:29.239 He's the next guy, new guy. I'm kind of dizzy. 1511 01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:31.559 He should probably go home sick. Grimes is sorting his 1512 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:34.000 pencils out and they're watching him through the window. Walks 1513 01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:36.119 it you knew. It's kind of like when you get 1514 01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:37.559 into a cab busy. 1515 01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:41.440 Night, mate, Always do it, Always do it. 1516 01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:43.159 You have to do it. It's almost like they expect it. 1517 01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:44.599 If you're disappointed if you don't ask. 1518 01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:46.199 Yeah, it takes the drivers. Uber's Yeah, just. 1519 01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:49.400 Story. Nick and I we went out for town and 1520 01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:50.960 recently on the town, recent for a birthday. 1521 01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:52.960 Cool story of his more it's. 1522 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:55.000 More yes, And we got into a cab, not a Nuba, 1523 01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:57.519 and we got about five minutes down the rain just goes, yeah, 1524 01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:00.719 my night's been good. Thanks, and we're like, oh, are 1525 01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:01.599 we supposed to ask? 1526 01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:04.320 I broke the social contract? 1527 01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.079 Oh dear, I'm just joking, just joking, But for a 1528 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:14.039 brief I was like, oh's part of the transaction. But yeah, 1529 01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:15.159 Lenny introduces Karl. 1530 01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:16.039 I'm Lenny. 1531 01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:19.079 He's Karl. I'm Lenny, just basically pointing out these guys 1532 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:21.519 have nothing to add to Frank Grimes's life at all. 1533 01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:23.480 But Homer can't believe that he has pencils with his 1534 01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:25.559 name on him. It's way too fancy for him. And 1535 01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:27.599 Grimes tells and that any office supplies company can have 1536 01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:29.599 you made from It just feels very Frank Grimes, doesn't 1537 01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:31.800 it that he'd have his name on his own pencil? 1538 01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:32.119 Sure? 1539 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:33.800 Do you think he does that because it's just makes 1540 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:36.079 him feel more important, or because he's just trying to 1541 01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:37.320 say these are mine, don't touch. 1542 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.119 I think he's trying to sort of assert his personality 1543 01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.079 and affirme his own identity is. 1544 01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:46.400 Well, everything he does has he's labeled, like he's lunch 1545 01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:47.679 got my name on it. 1546 01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:50.000 His name. So much has been taken away from his 1547 01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:52.760 life that he needs to get a bit predicted as 1548 01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:55.840 you would be, wouldn't think so? Yeah, But then Homer asked, 1549 01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:57.840 can I have a pencil? No? Can Lenny? 1550 01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.199 No? Then he shows off his degree in nuclear physics, 1551 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:04.960 and Homer says that they've all got what except for Homer. 1552 01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:07.360 I'm here to show up the day they opened the plant. Now, 1553 01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:10.559 if this was said in a season twenty episode, I'd 1554 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:12.320 be annoyed by it, right, because it's clear that that's 1555 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:13.840 not how Homer got the joint of the power plant. 1556 01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.320 If you've watched season one of the show. So in 1557 01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:18.719 season eight, were people annoyed by this? I don't think so. 1558 01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:20.599 So when people say, oh, no, they've changed the history, 1559 01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.920 it's like they've been doing it since season, if not earlier. 1560 01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:27.679 Continuity. Just roll with it. It, just just roll with it. 1561 01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:31.480 Yeah, yeah, well listen, I'm sure we all have a 1562 01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:32.239 lot of work to do. 1563 01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:38.519 M Hey, do you make a great guy? So we'll 1564 01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:40.920 give you a little tip. If you're turning the security 1565 01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:44.320 camera around, you can sleep and no one will ever know. 1566 01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:47.320 I don't think we're being paid to sleep. 1567 01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:49.840 Oh yeah, they're always trying to screw you. 1568 01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:54.079 Margin's then trying to buy a personalized license plate. Marge's 1569 01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:57.960 taking and tries Marjorie no Mitzi Mitsi's taken? Can you 1570 01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:01.440 have nitzy y? Have you ever been a situation where 1571 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.159 it's like I've got to set off or something? 1572 01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:06.079 Is this good enough? I guess no, sure, yeah, I 1573 01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:08.159 mean not necessarily personalized number plates. 1574 01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:10.840 Just were trying to make it like a user account. 1575 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:12.920 It's like, oh, guy Davis has taken. What do you 1576 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.000 mean it's taking? Oh that's true, Yeah, I mean, what 1577 01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:16.680 do you mean it's another Brendan Dando out there in 1578 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:17.039 the world. 1579 01:08:17.159 --> 01:08:19.720 There are oftentimes it's like, well, if I can't have 1580 01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.159 this email address or whatever, then figured I'm just learning. 1581 01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:26.840 And meanwhile, though Bard is bored by listening to this conversation. 1582 01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.159 So he goes to listen to the tax seizure's auction 1583 01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:32.560 and he bid bids a buck on a seven fifty one, 1584 01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:35.119 which turns out to be a thirty five industry way, 1585 01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:38.840 which is an abandoned factory. Yeah, it would be fucking awesome, 1586 01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:40.640 wouldn't it be if you just owned a factory like 1587 01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:43.479 it's yours. It just it just sit there making money 1588 01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:45.560 because it's going to be worth money eventually, right sure, 1589 01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:46.760 well if not, if. 1590 01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.279 Not the buildings, then certainly, And that's what I'm to say, Yeah, 1591 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:52.199 how do you get this for a buck? Yeah? House? 1592 01:08:52.319 --> 01:08:54.239 Have you ever been to an auction that wasn't there 1593 01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:56.720 won an auction that wasn't eBay, Like you even gone 1594 01:08:56.760 --> 01:08:57.800 to a house auction or. 1595 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:00.560 Yeah, I've been to a couple of house auctions, have 1596 01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:04.000 a bid on it. I think maybe before I bought 1597 01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:06.079 my house, there was one or two that I did 1598 01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:08.720 bid on. Yeah, but I realized, like, I think there's 1599 01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:10.359 going to be out of my range. But yeah, I'll 1600 01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:12.880 just say at the low end. Yeah, and made me 1601 01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:13.680 feel all grown up. 1602 01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:16.000 We went to check out a house viewing recently, and 1603 01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:17.279 they're gonna have an auction at the end of it, 1604 01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:18.720 and we were just like, I'll just check on out. 1605 01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:19.880 We want to see what the viewers like from this 1606 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.319 area of Geelong. And then the auction started and nobody bid, 1607 01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:27.119 and the homeowners just sort of stand there any bits, 1608 01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:29.800 any bits, and sort of standing there, and I was 1609 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:31.600 sort of thinking, my do I start it? Do I 1610 01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:32.800 start with a bid? And that I'm like, no, because 1611 01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:37.079 then no one else might. You're lumbered with this dud. 1612 01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:38.920 If you put your hand up and say you want 1613 01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:41.000 to bid on something, do you legally have to then 1614 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:41.439 pay it? 1615 01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:42.640 Wrong? 1616 01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.039 You're just signing a contract. No, but. 1617 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:49.439 That's a really good question. I'm not sure. 1618 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.600 You just run that where they make fake bids and 1619 01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.600 then the guys run off. That's true, Yeah, but I 1620 01:09:57.640 --> 01:09:59.880 was just sort of thinking, going, I know my house, Like, no, 1621 01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:01.640 don't do that, because in your might. 1622 01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:03.439 To buy a house, hands in your pockets. 1623 01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:06.920 Homer is now eating Frank Grimes a special dietetic lunch. 1624 01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:11.359 Oh yeah, stretch, what's the good word? And Grimes takes 1625 01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:13.359 a pretty wife. Someone ate my lunch, particularly if I'd 1626 01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:14.840 labeled it, I'd be livid. 1627 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.520 Oh God, of course you would. I mean, look, I'm 1628 01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:21.560 sorry to say it, Frank Grimes is kind of unlikable 1629 01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:22.399 in a lot of ways. 1630 01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:25.319 We all have these people in our lives where you 1631 01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:27.560 know they're right, but you still don't like that. Oh yeah, 1632 01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:29.760 you have every right to be annoyed and pissed off, 1633 01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:30.239 but it's. 1634 01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:33.760 Like, yeah and every yeah, everything goes wrong from here 1635 01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:36.359 due to Home Home. Home is not good in this 1636 01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:39.560 I was doing anything wrong, but still you kin't of 1637 01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:41.800 on homicide. Well I'm kind of on homicide anyway, because 1638 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.600 I find Grimes so yeah, straight up and down and 1639 01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:46.479 kind of irritating as a result. 1640 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.800 As I was saying to add earlier, it's that when 1641 01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:53.399 I was younger, I always saw Frank Grimes as the enemy. 1642 01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:55.399 You know who episode is called Homer's Enemy. I saw 1643 01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:57.239 it was the bad guy I had to mistreat Home 1644 01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:59.199 like this bubblic because I loved Homer, and in the 1645 01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:01.760 older I get them. Or I'm not saying I'm siding 1646 01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:05.319 with Grimes. I guess you could say I understand, yes, absolutely, yeah, 1647 01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:07.560 when sometimes I watch this episode and I go, you 1648 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.279 know what, Frank Grymes is pretty much my spirit animal. 1649 01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.239 Like I'm walk I walk around and people just bother me. 1650 01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:16.399 I'm like, sure, you know, it's like not just I'm 1651 01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:19.279 driving around now and I'm like, why are you crossing 1652 01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:21.079 the street there? When when does a walk away ten 1653 01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:22.880 minutes to her left? And I'm just like that shouldn't 1654 01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:25.640 bother me. But like I'm just people are just dumb. 1655 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.000 Like all it takes is for you to take the 1656 01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:30.760 step at the wrong time, you're gonna get run over. 1657 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:33.000 You ruin your family's lives. You've ruined, like your life's over. 1658 01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:35.239 It's like there's lights there for a reason, Like just 1659 01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:39.279 little ruin my day. Like people are just dumb, Like 1660 01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:42.640 why are people so dumb? The world is just dumb? 1661 01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:46.000 I got no reply to it. Do you think the 1662 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.399 world is dumb? Well? Bit today? Sometimes you just wake young. 1663 01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:50.960 Oh God, another day of that ship. 1664 01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:55.159 But Frank Grimes says, you know, Horoma, with the trouble 1665 01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:57.359 learning your name, the least you can do is learn mine. Okay, 1666 01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:01.159 gry And then he realizes he's eating the lunch, gives 1667 01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:02.600 it back, takes a few more bites, gives it back 1668 01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:05.479 to him, just throws it into the bin, frustrating and 1669 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:07.520 Homer riches for it. See this this is classic SIPs 1670 01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:09.520 is where it's like it could have He throws it 1671 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:12.000 in the bin, reaching for it. Is this is this 1672 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.279 that little button? This is what's what? Wasn't it? 1673 01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:14.840 I believe? 1674 01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:14.920 So? 1675 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:17.760 Yeah, He then finds it was because he's the one 1676 01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:22.000 that said that grummy was asking for it. Then he 1677 01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:24.840 finds his pencils or chewed up and discovers homing with them, 1678 01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:26.960 just cleaning out his ears and stabs when an anger 1679 01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:29.079 and yeah, I'd be furious as well. But as then 1680 01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:32.000 checking out the warehouse, it's filthy and it's all mine. 1681 01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:34.119 He throws the screw to see how far. It's kind 1682 01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:35.760 of like the test of how deep a hole is, 1683 01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:37.840 isn't it? Every second is a meter or something? Is 1684 01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:40.039 that how it works? Something along those lines. 1685 01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:41.640 I feel like I'm being tested today. Yeah, a lot 1686 01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:44.640 of things, like I wouldn't know about an I wouldn't 1687 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:46.359 know about holes. We got good. 1688 01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:50.000 You're me both, brother. So then he gets on a 1689 01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:52.840 chair with the fire extemas as to keep watching this, 1690 01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:55.399 I always just thought does this work? And man, it 1691 01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:56.199 was like a lot of fun. 1692 01:12:56.399 --> 01:13:00.680 Ah. I'm always terrified of like using a extinguished in 1693 01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:01.079 any way. 1694 01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:02.800 I just seemed I had to use it. When the 1695 01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:04.880 barbieet got on fire, I had no idea what I 1696 01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:07.119 was doing. I was like, I hope this works. This 1697 01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:08.880 is good, Like everybody, well, the house is silly, so 1698 01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:11.000 I'm gooding? Did yeah? I and the fence, Yeah that 1699 01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:13.039 was That was lucky that day. But when bart is 1700 01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:15.399 just walking around the factory here, it's just kind of 1701 01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:17.960 a sad memory. But my dad used to work a 1702 01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:20.840 candy footwear, you know, candy footwear. And some of my 1703 01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:23.039 favorite memories as a kid I going to the factory 1704 01:13:23.079 --> 01:13:26.800 with Dad and just everyone was uncle, Uncle, George, Auntie. 1705 01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:28.800 He's got a slav and there's all these you know, 1706 01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:30.760 all my uncles, and Auntie says all the works. I'd 1707 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:33.439 walk around the factory wait, and I say out the window. 1708 01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:35.319 Dad be like, right, just ten minutes and come back, 1709 01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:36.720 and he'd be sitting in his office. I'd be walking 1710 01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:39.800 around his factory, just this little kid. Hey, but to day, 1711 01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:41.680 don't I sit down and help make shoes and whatnot? 1712 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:44.119 And then it closed down. I remember Dad went there 1713 01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.039 yet text some from his office. We walked in and 1714 01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:50.159 it was just empty. I remember walking and going, ah, 1715 01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:52.439 it's like it's really gone. 1716 01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.920 Well yeah, and I'd use this giant line all the 1717 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:57.560 time as a joke, but yeah, we used to make things. 1718 01:13:57.720 --> 01:13:59.319 Yeah, and the same as what. I went to Ford 1719 01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:02.319 after down because we had to do the proper shutdown, 1720 01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:04.720 and I walked in, I was like, oh, the press 1721 01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:09.359 machines are gone. Yeah, it's empty. Oh it really is finished. 1722 01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:11.800 Yeah, And driving past, you know the full factory now, 1723 01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:15.119 yeah you used to. I mean it's being used for 1724 01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:16.399 something or I don't know, turn. 1725 01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:19.159 It into an industrial area whatever. But it's sad. 1726 01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:21.439 It's this huge car park that used to, you know, 1727 01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:23.319 be full of cars and people who would go work there, 1728 01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:24.600 and now it's just like, oh my god, look at 1729 01:14:24.600 --> 01:14:27.560 all this space. Yeah, I've got these jobs that aren't 1730 01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:28.600 there anymore. Yeah. 1731 01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:30.760 But I remember walking to Candy Foot where and not 1732 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:32.399 knowing nothing's going to be in there, walking in and. 1733 01:14:32.279 --> 01:14:36.359 Going oh yeah, oh it's all gone. It's not to 1734 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:38.399 be too milder. It's almost like looking at the dead body. 1735 01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:42.239 Yeah, it's just it was really sad. And I remember 1736 01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:43.880 seeing Dad sort of like tear up that day because 1737 01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:45.199 it's sort of like the reality hit him as well, 1738 01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:46.800 because he was like I think he knew it was 1739 01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:49.279 going to be that way. But he's like, ah, yeah, anyway, 1740 01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:51.880 it for like thirty years home now and enters Grimy's 1741 01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:54.159 office being annoying. I've always loved this is one of 1742 01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.520 my favorites where we're just like it just feels like, damn. 1743 01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:01.199 It was the same prombing, just big, a fucking nuisance. 1744 01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:04.119 Everything everything he does is just designed to frustrate. It's 1745 01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:05.239 incredibly annoying. 1746 01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:10.119 Joh, how's it going, Gray, I'd appreciate it if you'd 1747 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:11.359 stay out of my office. 1748 01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:14.159 Simpson, in which I had a nickel for every time 1749 01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:24.000 I heard Dad take me up to the ball game. 1750 01:15:24.680 --> 01:15:31.880 Take me to the ball Oh, what's do Grimy Simpson? 1751 01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:32.800 You got a five thirteen? 1752 01:15:34.319 --> 01:15:38.039 Now a five thirteen in your procedures manual, A five thirteen? 1753 01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:47.399 Look at your control panel? Oh a five thirty. 1754 01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:55.119 I'll handle it him, I got it. 1755 01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.880 Bot is now in his office. If you can call 1756 01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:04.880 it that, Abby's warehouse warehouse factory, factory, isn't it? Yeah? 1757 01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:07.159 And he sees Millhouse walk past the window and obviously 1758 01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:08.479 him a job. I'm a busy man. You want a 1759 01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:11.960 job or not. There's not really much to this speed plot. 1760 01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:16.439 Like rewatching this episode, I remember being more predominant in 1761 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:18.960 the episode. There's not much to it, but it's always 1762 01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.079 just been one of my favorite side plods because it's 1763 01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:24.680 just so simple. Bits are so interesting, like bar owns 1764 01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.920 a factory, and I think millhouse work there, Like I 1765 01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:30.199 think as a keep watching going, it'd be so cool. 1766 01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:30.479 You know. 1767 01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:32.119 It's kind of like when you get your first house 1768 01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:34.239 with a mate and you sort of just oh, and 1769 01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:36.880 has no parents around his house, do what I want. Yeah, 1770 01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:38.479 it's just like having their own factory to hang it, 1771 01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:42.359 having a factory to hang out. But then Homer is 1772 01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:45.520 eating like a pig. It's more like a duck. Yeah, 1773 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:48.079 things tend to ch they tend to chew. Yes, grumming 1774 01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:50.119 and winds about him slipping in a suit, and Lenny 1775 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:52.159 and Color like, well, what's the problem. We have no 1776 01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:54.239 issue with Homer? Yeah, three, Well we have three bus 1777 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:56.159 at lunch. They make anybody sleepy. And they explain that 1778 01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:58.479 he's in charge about safety. That man, he's in charge 1779 01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:02.600 about safety. This is pretty much sums up my life 1780 01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:04.359 in a lot of ways. It's best enough to think 1781 01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:07.600 about it. Sometimes when the kids you hear like a 1782 01:17:07.640 --> 01:17:09.199 bang or the kids are doing something, it's like it's 1783 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:12.520 best to knowledge. Just let it go. You don't screaming, 1784 01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:15.439 It's all right, Yes, if they're alive, just just go 1785 01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:18.000 with it. Have you been caught sleeping at work in 1786 01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:18.439 any way? 1787 01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:22.239 No. We used a nap at Ford all. 1788 01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:24.880 The time, really, especially on afternoon shift. We'll be like 1789 01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:27.800 eleven o'clock and sometimes we work over time, maybe like 1790 01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:29.439 three in the morning. We've been there since like four, 1791 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:33.439 and there's mattresses there and we just have a nap, 1792 01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:35.840 like go half an hour, go a kip, and like. 1793 01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:38.079 They just just cover each other. That's nice. 1794 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:40.960 Yeah, it was a real I said, Nick. It's been 1795 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:42.760 nearly ten years since four clothes. But I look back 1796 01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:46.279 and I'm like, we had a pretty good there. If 1797 01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:48.399 we've got to thirty degrees, we got to stop working 1798 01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:48.880 like that. 1799 01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.479 Is got to have a nap if it got yeah wow. 1800 01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:55.359 Well not legally, we're not supposed to it had naps, 1801 01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:58.600 but just but the supervisor didn't care, like Gary no 1802 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:01.239 longer with us rest in peace absolute, letting him just like, yeah. 1803 01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:04.319 I have a rest and now Gary's resting. 1804 01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:06.920 Because he basically he was that guy who he used 1805 01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:09.239 to the used to say, when you become a supervisor, 1806 01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:11.079 become one of the boys right then the boys club, 1807 01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:12.920 they used to call it a ford, and he didn't 1808 01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:14.239 want to be part of the boys cut. He'd eat 1809 01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:17.840 because when guys become supervisors eat the supervisor's office and 1810 01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:18.920 he'd still eat with us. 1811 01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:20.640 So he was, well, he was one of the boys, 1812 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:21.600 but he was one of the boys. 1813 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:23.680 Yeah, because he started just a worker and then when 1814 01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:26.039 he got mad supervisor, he still stayed. He hung out 1815 01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:28.800 with us, right, but then they asked him to night 1816 01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:31.720 shift because he was just not He was always questioning 1817 01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:33.359 what their decisions and same minute to do this on 1818 01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:35.000 day shift, so they put him on night shift. So 1819 01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:36.560 when he's on night was like, ah, you a fuck. 1820 01:18:36.600 --> 01:18:38.680 As long as its long we make enough parts, who cares. 1821 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:42.520 That's a good philosophy. As long as her part gets made. 1822 01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:44.600 He used to say, as long as youre not doing 1823 01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:47.119 anything dangerous and you get the man that the work 1824 01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:48.520 done he is supposed to get done, only a funk 1825 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:51.840 what you do. It's like, well, that's how you should 1826 01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:54.239 approach it, right absolutely, as if you're getting ship done 1827 01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:56.880 and you're not hurting anybody, go for it wouldn't be great. 1828 01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:00.720 Everybody filled that way. Then Homer in the lunch room 1829 01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:04.119 and he almost drinks acid and Grammy saves him, and 1830 01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:05.680 that would have been stupid. This is the one point 1831 01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:07.399 where I thought home it was dumbed down a little 1832 01:19:07.399 --> 01:19:09.640 bit too much. Oh, my face would have been red. 1833 01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:13.640 I was like, ah, but it sets up Frank Grime's 1834 01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:17.520 going it's the laughing room beside, You're gonna be dead. 1835 01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:19.560 And he just stares blankly at him as mister Burns 1836 01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:22.239 walks past with the junior vice president dog. Great call 1837 01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:25.840 back there, and Homer says, who did this? He did it? 1838 01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:28.520 And he's not lying. Well, that's true, Grammy did do it, 1839 01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:30.880 and Burns braces him. How dare you destroy my valuable 1840 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:33.920 wall and spill my precious acid? No priceless accident. You 1841 01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:36.039 think you're gonna get away with it? And against you're 1842 01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:39.439 going to give one more chance at a reduced salary, 1843 01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.199 and the dog barks in. That's the kick of the 1844 01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:44.920 dog barking at him. Grimmy then goes to see Homer 1845 01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:47.399 and says, I hate you, or just stay away from you, 1846 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:48.880 because they're enemies. 1847 01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:51.119 Me, the most beloved man in Springfield. 1848 01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:56.079 What do I have to do anything? Grammy can't even 1849 01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:58.039 respond Homer's now sad is that most you can't believe 1850 01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:00.720 he has an enemy, and most of even I have no, 1851 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:02.880 I won't have it. There's no way you have enemies. 1852 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:04.640 And he shows me his Listen, there's troops, Jane Fonder, 1853 01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:07.319 Daniel show Jack Anderson, and Barney points out as Nixon. 1854 01:20:07.359 --> 01:20:09.159 So then he adds Barney's name to it as well. 1855 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.079 Have you ever had an enemy? I'm sure I Have 1856 01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:13.600 you ever had someone in your life where you don't 1857 01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:15.039 quite understand why they don't like it? There was a 1858 01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:17.640 kid of schools. There was Richard right, and he just 1859 01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:20.800 hated me. And I never really associated with him, and 1860 01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:22.680 like we were friends in the early years, and then 1861 01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:25.880 he just decided he hated me. And I've never still 1862 01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:27.399 did this day. I've ever meet him again and see me, 1863 01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:27.920 I'd be like. 1864 01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:29.560 Why did you hate me? What was it that I 1865 01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:32.319 did that just triggered you? He just he hated me. 1866 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.439 And we had the same friendship circle. So we still 1867 01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:36.840 have to hang out like every lunch, but he wanted 1868 01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:38.840 nothing to do with me, and he never explained why 1869 01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:39.760 he just hated me. 1870 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:43.279 It's hard to understand. There was a guy named Andrew 1871 01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:45.760 when I was at Uni. I think his sister was 1872 01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:48.800 going out with my good friend, so our paths would 1873 01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:52.439 sort of occasionally cross and one I were out of 1874 01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:55.600 this party, and yeah, I think we were all fairly drunk. 1875 01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:58.199 But he just sort of boiled me up against the 1876 01:20:58.239 --> 01:20:59.000 wall and was. 1877 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:01.920 Really get told this story. Yeah, and do you think 1878 01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:05.439 you're talking to his girls? No, that was a different time. Yeah, 1879 01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:06.399 that guy haded me as well. 1880 01:21:06.479 --> 01:21:09.840 I don't know what. Yeah, but this guy was like 1881 01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:13.520 really getting ready to throw down. And I was genuinely 1882 01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:17.520 confused because I mean I didn't like the guy, but 1883 01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:20.319 I didn't dislike the guy either, But for some reason, 1884 01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:23.359 he just really took of fans. Yeah. Maybe it was 1885 01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:24.800 just because so charming and handsome. 1886 01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:29.960 Maybe jealous, that's true. This show was brought to you 1887 01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.560 by the four Finger Discount Patreon, where you'll find over 1888 01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:36.840 one hundred hours of bonus podcasts, including exclusive Simpson's reviews 1889 01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:40.279 and commentaries, as well as exclusive episodes of Going Down 1890 01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:44.079 to South Park, Tales of Futurama, Bob's Pods, Speaking of 1891 01:21:44.119 --> 01:21:47.479 the Hill, Talking Sifeuld, The One About Friends, and so 1892 01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:50.279 much more. So go ahead and join the family today 1893 01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:54.000 at patreon dot com. Slash four finger discount, but most 1894 01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:56.319 says he should invite him for dinner, get him comfortable, 1895 01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:59.159 and then my mo member is bam, you'll fog in 1896 01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:01.920 the eye, and Home he considers trying without the fog 1897 01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:04.000 one was always the first time. It's time for dinner. 1898 01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:05.640 Home is very nervous because he wants us to go 1899 01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:07.960 really really well, wants to go perfect. Sure, tells everyone 1900 01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:11.159 to be perfect, just be perfect, you perfect, you perfect 1901 01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:14.199 maybe perfect. Marche has only five lobsters and she's worried 1902 01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:16.279 that she won't have enough if he brings a guest 1903 01:22:16.600 --> 01:22:18.760 and hasn't actually told him that it's dinner. It's like wry, 1904 01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:20.359 he doesn't know it's He's not going to bring anybody. 1905 01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:22.039 And the hilarious part about this is that I don't 1906 01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:24.680 think Home even realizes why he wants to be friends 1907 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:26.840 with Frank Grimes. He's just not used to someone, just 1908 01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:28.439 like I don't like him as he's like, he doesn't 1909 01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:30.079 know how to handle it. He's just like this. 1910 01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:32.399 He doesn't want a friend, but he doesn't want an enemy. 1911 01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:34.880 Yeah, exactly, And I think that none of us want enemies. 1912 01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:39.079 But Grimey arrives to Cassida, Simpsons and he looks all disheveled. 1913 01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:42.119 He's got the briefcase or shit coming out of it everywhere, 1914 01:22:42.199 --> 01:22:44.600 and Home introduces the family. Lisa got a one fifty 1915 01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.920 six IQ bar, owns a factory downtown. But Grimes he 1916 01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:49.560 can't get over the size of Homer's house. 1917 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:55.520 Good heavens, this is a palace. How in the rook 1918 01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:57.000 can you afford to live in a house like this? 1919 01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:59.800 Simpson, Oh, don't ask me out of your acoudomy work. 1920 01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:02.199 Yeah, but look at the size of this place. 1921 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:05.039 I live in a single room above a bowling alley 1922 01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:07.119 and below another bowling alley. 1923 01:23:07.439 --> 01:23:10.840 WHOA, I'm sorry, isn't that Yeah? That's me all right? 1924 01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:13.800 And a guy standing next to me is President Gerald Ford. 1925 01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:16.239 And this is when I was on tour with the 1926 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:19.159 Smashing Pumpkins. Oh, and here's a picture of me in 1927 01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:19.880 outer space. 1928 01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:22.199 You went in outer space? 1929 01:23:22.359 --> 01:23:26.960 You sure you've never been? Would you like to see 1930 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:27.800 my Grammy award? 1931 01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:28.279 No? 1932 01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:31.800 I wouldn't draw. I've had to work hard every day 1933 01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:33.800 of my life. And what do I have to show 1934 01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:37.840 for it? This briefcase and this haircut? And what do 1935 01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:41.359 you have to show for your lifetime of sloth and ignorance? 1936 01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:47.520 What everything, A dream house, two cars, a beautiful wife, 1937 01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:53.279 sun new owns, a factory, fancy clothes and lobsters for dinner. 1938 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:54.920 And do you deserve any of it? 1939 01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:55.680 No? 1940 01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:00.479 What are you saying? Saying? 1941 01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:03.359 You're what's wrong with America? Simpson? 1942 01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:05.199 You coast through life, You do. 1943 01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:08.720 As little as possible, and you leap your decent, hardworking 1944 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:12.279 people like me. If you lived in any other country 1945 01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:14.479 in the world, you'd have starved to death long ago. 1946 01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:16.560 He's got you there, Dad. 1947 01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:21.520 You're a fraud, a total fraud. It's nice meeting you. 1948 01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:26.159 I feel like being called a fraud. Is that would 1949 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:26.960 cut you deep? 1950 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:27.199 Oh? 1951 01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:31.239 Yeah, very much. You're a fraud. A name would hurt 1952 01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:33.600 you less. I think you're a dickhead. Now you're a fraud. 1953 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:35.800 It's like, oh shit, I'm found out. 1954 01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:40.239 He's got your there, Dad. This week a little montage 1955 01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:42.279 of button Millhouse hanging out at the factory. They're throwing 1956 01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:46.039 machines or some kind like cashridges or something into the 1957 01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:50.479 industrial waste or not accounting machines, candy machines, that's right. Yeah, 1958 01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:52.520 the're throwing and it melts into the in the Wasiste 1959 01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:55.600 Millhouse is cleaning baptizing to get to work. What is 1960 01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:56.800 wacky shad? Well? 1961 01:24:57.279 --> 01:25:00.239 Have you seen the motion menture? Grease? I have call 1962 01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:04.640 it the end that they have the and they have 1963 01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:07.039 a bit in the Wacky Shop, which is basically just 1964 01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:13.239 a rocking house fun house. So they called the Wacky Show. 1965 01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:14.520 You're the one that I want? Is that they sing 1966 01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:16.800 that one through? Yeah? Yeah, we just call that funhouse here, 1967 01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:20.600 I I believe. So yeah, not much fun about it, 1968 01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:23.680 but then takes away the warning signs solving problem yep, 1969 01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:26.880 longer scared of it, has longer scared of being hurt. 1970 01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:29.239 Margin notices that Homer hasn't left for work. You're sitting 1971 01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:30.199 in the car in the driveway. 1972 01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:32.079 Why would you? 1973 01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:34.760 What's wrong? Car won't start? Don't feel well. I am 1974 01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:38.199 at work, Homer? 1975 01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:40.520 Homer, why aren't you at work? 1976 01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:44.079 The car won't start. I don't feel very good today. 1977 01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:45.279 I am at work. 1978 01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:47.920 You're afraid to go to work because Frank Grimes will 1979 01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:49.000 be there, aren't you? 1980 01:25:49.039 --> 01:25:53.840 Which is crazy talk. You're crazy, Marge. You're off your road. 1981 01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:58.439 You'll have to face him sometime, and when you do, 1982 01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:01.079 I'm sure he'll be justice anxious to make up as 1983 01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:01.479 you are. 1984 01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:03.439 No, he won't. He hates me. 1985 01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:07.279 He doesn't hate you, He just feels insecure because you're 1986 01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:10.359 getting through life so easily and it's been so difficult 1987 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:10.960 for him. 1988 01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:11.760 Yeah. 1989 01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.600 Yeah, that's his problem. He's a nut. 1990 01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:18.800 It's not about me being lazy, it's about him being 1991 01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:20.319 a crazy nut. 1992 01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:24.880 Well maybe, but I'll bet he would be less crazy 1993 01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:28.680 if you are just a little more professional in your work, 1994 01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:32.680 just a little more, then he won't have any reason 1995 01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:33.439 to resent you. 1996 01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:40.640 I'll do it to professionalism. 1997 01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.039 Do you think they're seeing him drive off the work 1998 01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:43.680 was a bit much? 1999 01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:43.880 Yet? 2000 01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:46.439 Do you think he couldness been fun to professionalism? But 2001 01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:49.479 the drinking and then driving off, Look, it's a lot 2002 01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:50.960 lest episodes where they're really doubling down. 2003 01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:53.199 Aren't They really are putting other hat on a hat. 2004 01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.600 But look, I don't mind it. It's not a deal breaker. Nah. 2005 01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:59.159 Now at work and Homer is eating donuts with a 2006 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:02.560 knife and fork, trying to be all professional with a 2007 01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:04.960 mister good employee posted up in his war. He tries 2008 01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:06.680 to be nice to Frank Grimes and highlight that he's 2009 01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:08.600 making an effort, but the danger side thing goes off. 2010 01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:10.479 Frank Grimes is like, what an idiot? 2011 01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:11.159 I do? 2012 01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:12.840 Kind of feel sorry for homing here because like he 2013 01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:13.760 at least he's trying. 2014 01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:18.399 That's true. It'd be nice for Grimey to meet him, like, well, 2015 01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:20.520 Homer's going to make three quarters of the effort, and 2016 01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:22.119 grime He's going to make like a quarter. 2017 01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:24.199 Well, the thing is with Homer is no one's ever 2018 01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:26.920 called him out for this behavior. Correct, he doesn't understand 2019 01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:30.199 what he's done is being is long unprofessional. So now 2020 01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:31.920 he is trying to at least make an effort. Frank 2021 01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:33.520 Grimes is like, nah, I screwed this guy and this 2022 01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.439 as you're saying, that's where Frank Grihmes I think becomes 2023 01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:37.920 unlikable because even when this guy is trying, you won't 2024 01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:40.760 give him a chance. Correct car Then questions like what's 2025 01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:43.439 your problem? Grimy, Like what what's what's what's the big deal? 2026 01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:45.560 As I said, Yeah, that's why they put a razors 2027 01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:47.079 on pencils. Yeah, that's a great line. 2028 01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:49.960 Access of double dach year meltdown's have tripled. Well, you 2029 01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:52.159 ever be fired or disciplined, as he said, everyone makes mistakes. 2030 01:27:52.199 --> 01:27:54.560 That's why they put raislin pencil That's a good philosophy 2031 01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:55.199 to lift by, isn't it. 2032 01:27:55.239 --> 01:27:55.399 Sure? 2033 01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:59.159 Yeah, they say give him a break, and then Frank 2034 01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:01.000 Grimes says, I would die happy man if I approved 2035 01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:02.439 to you, or that Homer has the intelligence of a 2036 01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:04.880 six year old, and they just fob him off like whatever, mate, 2037 01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:05.079 you just. 2038 01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:07.000 Been bitter. 2039 01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:09.439 Grummy then sees the poster for the children's model building 2040 01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:11.399 contest and he cuts out all the references to it 2041 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:14.239 being for children for kids, cuts out the kid, leaves 2042 01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:17.000 it on Homer's desk. There's much chance to show this 2043 01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:20.880 much chance to everyone. How professional I am? He tells, uh, 2044 01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:22.800 this week the Lenny photo. They have a great summer, 2045 01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:24.720 so he tells Lenny's and he's gone home for work 2046 01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:26.960 to work on the contest. And then Grummy last until 2047 01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:29.600 he sees home smashing into his car. Thin guess at 2048 01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:31.680 least Frank Grimes is the kick ass parking spot. 2049 01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:32.119 A good point. 2050 01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:35.239 Yeah, reduced salary, but good park margin less. Then he 2051 01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:37.760 sounds from the basement. It says, Genie at work, sign 2052 01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:39.920 on the door margin less. You're concerned out what's going 2053 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:42.239 on down there. March's stop bother. It's high tech stuff. 2054 01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:45.680 We wouldn't understand. March. You have anylwowre Macaroni and glor 2055 01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:49.079 on sparkles. Millhouse is now smashing a door and Bart 2056 01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:54.560 rings the horn. Quittindme durmer those days quittin time? Oh yeah, 2057 01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:55.239 straight at the door. 2058 01:28:55.279 --> 01:29:01.800 Did you ever stick around afterwards? Well? Yeah, sometimes I know. 2059 01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.920 I guess I feel home esque sometimes in like I 2060 01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:07.479 probably haven't put one hundred percent in during the during 2061 01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:09.039 the nine to five, but if I give him the 2062 01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:11.920 next like half hour at the end, I'm like, good. 2063 01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:14.039 On you, creble all the days working to half an hour. 2064 01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:14.960 You're paying me for this roe. 2065 01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.800 Bart then says he needs someone to guard the place overnight, 2066 01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:20.079 so he makes meelhouse the night watchmen. He gives him 2067 01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:22.039 a nickel for the coffee machine, and the brat falls down. 2068 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:25.479 So this is my life. 2069 01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:27.960 At least I've done better than dad. 2070 01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:30.800 This might be the most relatable Millhouse moment of all 2071 01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:35.600 time my life. It's I think we've had a point 2072 01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:37.760 in our lives where we've just gone so this is 2073 01:29:37.800 --> 01:29:39.520 our life. This is my life. 2074 01:29:39.720 --> 01:29:41.560 But then you have the opportunity to change it. I 2075 01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:42.399 feel like you do. 2076 01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:44.439 Yes, at least I've done better than dad. 2077 01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:44.640 Though. 2078 01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:47.960 It's so good that Bart arrives next morning and the 2079 01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:50.439 factory has fallen over I told you just watching them 2080 01:29:50.479 --> 01:29:53.439 watch the factory I did first started falling over, then 2081 01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:55.600 it fell over, and all the rats then go to 2082 01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:58.520 most everybody touk your pants into yourself. That's now it's 2083 01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:02.199 time for the model contest and these bold new ideas, 2084 01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:04.640 these tiny tykes unveiled for us today, could make thousands 2085 01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:10.239 of jobs like yours obsolete. It's a little slight, but 2086 01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:13.760 it's true, man, it's true. Don't remind me Ralph now 2087 01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:16.079 has a male. Basically, it's just a Melbouy Stacy dream house, 2088 01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:18.800 it is, and it's just he's drawing. 2089 01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:21.520 Something to melow stay. 2090 01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:28.119 Yes, pretty good. So not a fan of the hot 2091 01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:29.960 tub and the media room. What is supposed to be 2092 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:33.479 a power plant? Villas Bordella. As you said, who is Ambula? 2093 01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:35.119 I think it's just a fun name to say. 2094 01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:38.479 It sounds like, yeah, I did look it up, I thought. 2095 01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:41.640 But now Ralphie, then Ralphi, get up the stage, sweetheart. 2096 01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:44.199 Then it's for Martin who has the fancy wanted to 2097 01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:46.000 be touched on earlier. That controls the room and power 2098 01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:46.359 in the room. 2099 01:30:46.359 --> 01:30:48.720 It's in this room right now, too cold, sterile, where's 2100 01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:51.039 the heart you lose? 2101 01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:53.840 Get off my property? When Homie comes out and it's 2102 01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:57.079 just a power plant, It's just a Frank mocksman looks 2103 01:30:57.359 --> 01:30:59.880 in a contest for kids, makes us miss the contest. 2104 01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:03.079 Then Burns ask him to explain it, young man, explain this, 2105 01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:04.279 young man? What does that explain? 2106 01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:04.479 His? 2107 01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:07.319 An idiot shut up of added fins to lower winter resistance. 2108 01:31:07.359 --> 01:31:09.319 And I love this. And I thought this racing strip 2109 01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:10.039 was pretty sharp. 2110 01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:11.800 He's not wrong. 2111 01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:18.720 It is pretty short. You agreed, you win, You did it, 2112 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:22.000 Homer and Frank Grom's like it was a goodness for children. Yeah, 2113 01:31:22.039 --> 01:31:24.680 I haven't beat their brains. They were like, yeah, will whoma. 2114 01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:26.600 And this is where Frank Grimes just loses his mind, 2115 01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:29.319 has the ultimate breakdown that we all remember. Are you okay? 2116 01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:30.399 I'm better that I can? 2117 01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:35.880 You wish and they get their classes. I don't need 2118 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:39.359 safety gloves because I'm Homer Simpson and shocks himself cut 2119 01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:42.600 to his funeral Frank Grimes, or Grimy as he preferred to, 2120 01:31:43.439 --> 01:31:47.039 although Frank's agonizing struggle through life was agonizingly cut short. 2121 01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:50.560 I was asleep. Change of channel March and that's how Homer. 2122 01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:52.640 The change of channel March is I know a touch 2123 01:31:52.680 --> 01:31:54.439 up with that. I can't can't remember, but that's the 2124 01:31:54.479 --> 01:31:57.199 moment for me that I remember watching this with my dad, 2125 01:31:57.439 --> 01:31:59.159 my dad bursting out and laughter. It's just like that 2126 01:31:59.199 --> 01:32:01.760 was just such a good mona. Yes, that is the 2127 01:32:01.920 --> 01:32:04.119 run through of Homer's Enemy. Hope you guys enjoyed this 2128 01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:05.319 episode featuring Ed Cavali. 2129 01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:09.720 Yes, indeed, and you're strong and us. Yeah, it's the 2130 01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.039 Ed Cavalier experience featuring Daniel and Guy. 2131 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:14.039 There's one point towards the end we're all like, time 2132 01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:15.279 of the run through it It's like, haven't we been 2133 01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:15.479 doing that? 2134 01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:21.319 Yeah, insurance to sell, very professional of it. I was like, 2135 01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.399 pretty I think we folded that into it. Yes, indeed, 2136 01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:27.399 my times at a premium. But that was very very 2137 01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:29.640 good talking with Ed ye, man, it was. 2138 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:32.600 It was great getting these guests and is just fantastic. 2139 01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:34.560 We've got some big names coming Out'm not gonna spoil 2140 01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:36.279 them all here, but some really cool names coming up, 2141 01:32:36.319 --> 01:32:38.359 we certainly do, and not just comedians, just some other 2142 01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:41.520 exciting guests as well. Okay, yeah, I'll take it. 2143 01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:42.279 I'll take your word for it. 2144 01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:43.760 But until then, guys, thank you so much for your 2145 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:46.039 support here at four finger this game to forget to 2146 01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:48.600 rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, where we 2147 01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:50.319 do find this show. 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This has been our review of Homis Enemy 2160 01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:16.960 with Ed Cavalie. Mister Davis. Any final words for these 2161 01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:18.000 incredible listeners out. 2162 01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:20.239 There, Daniel, I'm peen on the seat. Give me a raise,