Speaker 1: Frank Grimes or Grimy is he liked to be cold,
Speaker 1: taught us that a man can triumph over adversity, and
Speaker 1: even though Frank's agonizing struggle through life was tragically cut short,
Speaker 1: I am sure he's looking down.
Speaker 2: Change the channel, Marge, four Finger Discounted.
Speaker 3: Welcome to four Finger Discount, where this week we're gonna
Speaker 3: be going all the way back to season eight to
Speaker 3: review Homer's Enemy. I'm Dando and I am guy. Who
Speaker 3: are we joined by? This Weeksterdavis?
Speaker 4: We are joined by I want to say, the hardest
Speaker 4: working man in comedy, but certainly the hardest man in
Speaker 4: because one of the first things that comes up when
Speaker 4: you google him is his Men's health cover and he
Speaker 4: is looking to use the blood term. Absolutely fucking jack.
Speaker 4: It makes me feel bad. I have not seen a
Speaker 4: tour so I like that since I got out of
Speaker 4: the shower this morning. It's Ed Cavally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolute superstar in the Australian comedy scene. Like he said,
Speaker 3: he's just He's everywhere.
Speaker 4: He is everywhere, is everything everywhere all at once. He
Speaker 4: is on TV, he is on podcasts, do you know what?
Speaker 4: And other things as well.
Speaker 5: Know what?
Speaker 3: We love him the most because he's a die hard
Speaker 3: Simpsons fan. That's why he came on the show this
Speaker 3: week and he picked time his enemy, and boy was
Speaker 3: at a fun chat.
Speaker 4: It was a very very fun chat.
Speaker 3: And I love how he's very much crusty. He ends
Speaker 3: up with a great crusty joke. I won't spoil that.
Speaker 3: Let's let's spoil it, we won't spoiled. Wait to the end,
Speaker 3: way to the end. But like he basically talked to
Speaker 3: stick around talking about a crusty gag, and when it ends,
Speaker 3: it's just like, you know what.
Speaker 4: He is crusty. He's got the soul of crust of
Speaker 4: the Klowan and the body of ned Flanders.
Speaker 3: But he has got so much shit going on as well.
Speaker 3: But he gave up some time today to talk about
Speaker 3: Homer's enemy, and boy are we better for it.
Speaker 4: We are absolutely thrilled to present ed Cavally on four Thing.
Speaker 3: We ranted about what YouTube and the way it's ruining
Speaker 3: kids minds these days. Oh my god, he was shagging
Speaker 3: his fist of a cloud and iously and I'm like
Speaker 3: high five, but the same I thought I was the
Speaker 3: only one whenever I tell my friends about YouTube is
Speaker 3: ruining kids mind. I don't let him what YouTube like, Nah,
Speaker 3: don't be such a fucking old man. I'm like, no, No,
Speaker 3: it is though. It is because they get it on
Speaker 3: YouTube and they're flicking and they're flicking and they're flicking anyway.
Speaker 3: But you won't be flicking today though, because, as we said,
Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about Homer's Enemy. A fantastic episode,
Speaker 3: the Frank Grimey mcgrimes episode. We all love it. It's
Speaker 3: an episode that you don't appreciate enough until you get older.
Speaker 3: I think, is that right. I think that's correct, Yes, yes, yes, indeed.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, guys, hope you enjoy today's chat with
Speaker 3: Ed Cavalley reviewing Homer's Enemy. Will be right back at
Speaker 3: the end of the episode. Hey, guys, welcome to four
Speaker 3: Finger Discamp, the podcast that is apparently now brought to
Speaker 3: you by you Insurance.
Speaker 4: I'm Dan though and I am guy and we are
Speaker 4: very very fortunate to be joined today by the star
Speaker 4: of Going down Under Ed cavally.
Speaker 6: Great to be here. Thank you. A full retrospective there.
Speaker 5: Was originally called meat Pie out to my work selling
Speaker 5: insurance and thank you all.
Speaker 6: Now good to be here.
Speaker 5: I'm big Simpson's Fan was started, of course, at their
Speaker 5: six point thirty on the Sunday nights on Channel ten,
Speaker 5: and then through the repeats at six pm. And then
Speaker 5: of course a lot of people know I worked in
Speaker 5: a thing that used to exist called a video store,
Speaker 5: and we had all of the seasons on video, but
Speaker 5: I didn't need them because I had already taped them
Speaker 5: off the TV myself and I would watch them incessantly,
Speaker 5: just over and over and over again. And now my son,
Speaker 5: this only childre you have children and a son of
Speaker 5: a similar age. I have a seven year old son
Speaker 5: who has found it, Yes, I know who has found
Speaker 5: it on Disney Plus and he is now starting he
Speaker 5: started at the start, and we're watching them together.
Speaker 3: How great is that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: When you see that? Unbelievable I'm watching it with Ali
Speaker 3: and there's gags that I didn't get when I was
Speaker 3: a kid, and agent now, yeah, it's so much. It's
Speaker 3: almost like you watched the show brand new again.
Speaker 6: It's just wonderful.
Speaker 5: And to hear him the things that he laughs at
Speaker 5: versus the things I versus exactly what happened and the
Speaker 5: episode we're going to talk about today. Part of the
Speaker 5: reason I chose it is because watching with him, watching
Speaker 5: him watch bad episode. There was a joke in there
Speaker 5: that I'll talk about that I didn't get until this viewing.
Speaker 5: And I have seen this episode twenty times. I'm not twenty.
Speaker 5: I've said it ten times over thirty years.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, more than that probably, Yeah, but it's a
Speaker 3: fantastic I did the same thing. There was a gag
Speaker 3: where I went, I don't remember ever hearing that, and
Speaker 3: if I did, I didn't get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: That's the skill of the show. And it's also you know,
Speaker 5: for us who will have young children, it's a it's
Speaker 5: a weapon against YouTube humor because he's desperate to watch
Speaker 5: what can only be described as fuck what's yelling?
Speaker 6: On YouTube?
Speaker 5: And I say to him, you know, he likes watching
Speaker 5: sport highlights and they're on YouTube. Who will watch it
Speaker 5: together and they'll bleed into you know, I tried a
Speaker 5: hundred different you know baseballs and then just a series
Speaker 5: of fuck what's yelling at each other? And I just know,
Speaker 5: stop that and put on this because comedy education is
Speaker 5: is why I'm sitting here right now, through the people
Speaker 5: that I had in my life that got me to go, no,
Speaker 5: you're not watching, you're not watching that, you're not watching
Speaker 5: you know, Thailand's craziest bus crashes again, why don't you
Speaker 5: watch the Simpsons? And why don't you try with now one,
Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. So I don't know, it seems ridiculous,
Speaker 5: but it's important to try and keep alive the idea
Speaker 5: that comedy is no people actually come together, have an idea,
Speaker 5: work hard on it, really hard, and.
Speaker 6: Can be rewatched over and over again. That's important.
Speaker 4: And this sounds very noble and very righteous. I agree
Speaker 4: when with one hundred percent with everything you're saying. It
Speaker 4: does sound like there's a bit of a Frank Grimes
Speaker 4: leaching into your personality here.
Speaker 5: But that's the other part that I've sort of you know,
Speaker 5: the people who know me Limo, who is a wonderful
Speaker 5: comedian and is the nicest guy in the known universe.
Speaker 5: He's welcome everywhere he goes, everywhere he goes, everyone's just
Speaker 5: happy to see him, and he's very much the homer
Speaker 5: to my Frank Grimes. Where we'll have a discussion. We
Speaker 5: do another podcast called You're Not Going to Like This,
Speaker 5: where we get people, you know people and we try
Speaker 5: and break their algorithms by trying to get them to
Speaker 5: watch something that they would never normally watch and see
Speaker 5: if they.
Speaker 6: Can find some joy in it.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 5: And I'll often be ranting about something and I'll get
Speaker 5: to the end of my rant and He'll just be
Speaker 5: staring at me with a smile and go, so you've
Speaker 5: never thought of that? And he'll say things like, no, ed,
Speaker 5: I never stopped to consider whether justin Timberlake could afford
Speaker 5: Air Jordan's when he said that in the Last Dance documentary.
Speaker 5: I was just enjoying Michael Jordan. And that's the pedantry
Speaker 5: of Frank Grimes, I think is a great descriptor of
Speaker 5: the world that we live in. There's two types of pedantry.
Speaker 5: There's the pedantry that you guys exude, which is pick
Speaker 5: something you love and explore it and entertain it and
Speaker 5: as celebrate it, which is wonderful. Or there's the other
Speaker 5: type of pedantry, which is go online and just tear
Speaker 5: things apart as much as you possibly.
Speaker 4: Can, hate watching find as many knits as possible and
Speaker 4: pick the hell out of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean. And entertainment has sort
Speaker 5: of in a lot of ways, marvels perfect example, people
Speaker 5: go on about Bubble and I don't like those films,
Speaker 5: But the main reason I don't like them is they
Speaker 5: seem to almost be designed to be announced at Comic Con,
Speaker 5: discussed on thread on message boards, and then re announced
Speaker 5: on Comic Con, where they either say, sorry, we got
Speaker 5: that wrong.
Speaker 6: Now he's something that you do like or yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: we meant that.
Speaker 5: When you like that bit, we meant that, And here's
Speaker 5: more of it. It's it's just a sad feedback loop,
Speaker 5: which is definitely.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a great line that's been sort of
Speaker 4: repurposed by many a podcast, but it comes from a
Speaker 4: channel called Red Letter Media where they were sort of
Speaker 4: taken the mickey out of nerd podcasters and video guys
Speaker 4: YouTube guys, where the guy was basically saying, don't ask questions,
Speaker 4: just to consume product and then get excited for the
Speaker 4: next product. It's like, and that's pretty much it when
Speaker 4: it comes to Marvel and Star Wars and all these
Speaker 4: franchises that seem to be filled with bandless imagination and
Speaker 4: now just sort of coming attractions for the next thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know what's good about it is as
Speaker 5: usual the Simpson's got their first well comic book.
Speaker 6: Comic book man, what are we talking.
Speaker 5: Five years ago?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Ninety one ninety I didn't know what that was.
Speaker 5: That's the other great thing about the Simpsons is how
Speaker 5: many of their characters get better with time. How much
Speaker 5: even though Monty Burn's is a great character at the start,
Speaker 5: so based on Rockefeller and all those old school how
Speaker 5: amazing is he as a couldn't care less about anyone
Speaker 5: billionaire character? Now?
Speaker 4: How good is it?
Speaker 3: It's just something more relatable now than it was in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 6: Incredible, It's incredible.
Speaker 3: Do you think the Simpsons influenced your comedy in any
Speaker 3: way or your sense of humor? Maybe in any way a.
Speaker 5: Thousand percent, because it was designed that way. And as
Speaker 5: you know, and you've had a few different guests on
Speaker 5: that have said, this is it's shorthand. When someone says
Speaker 5: the Simpsons reference and you get it, you're already you're
Speaker 5: already one step closer to being friends and sympatico. It's
Speaker 5: just it's such a shorthand way into a style of humor.
Speaker 5: And as usual, you know, just the other day I
Speaker 5: was with Working Dog, you know, the Tommy Gleisner and
Speaker 5: Rob Sitch and Tom Tom being Tom Tom's on TikTok, right,
Speaker 5: but you know he's just he's a voyeur on TikTok. No,
Speaker 5: because I said, Tom, I said, yes, you know, I
Speaker 5: know you like to watch reaction videos of rap, but
Speaker 5: I what else do you like? And he goes, no, No, no,
Speaker 5: typical Tom. He's like, no, there's actually a lot of
Speaker 5: really good comedy writers on there that dissect jokes. And
Speaker 5: because Tommy's his attention span is you know, as short
Speaker 5: as it can possibly be, because he's got three books
Speaker 5: to write. And so then we're standing there and what
Speaker 5: Rob goes, oh, yeah, and Rob just pulls up on
Speaker 5: his phone a short Simpsons clip, just one joke from
Speaker 5: the Simpsons and we all laugh, one of the ones
Speaker 5: where the Tom home is talking to the FBI, and
Speaker 5: then we all laugh and then we just get on
Speaker 5: with our day. And so it's still happening, and you go,
Speaker 5: all right, if it's good enough for them, then it's
Speaker 5: good enough for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So many people just share Simpsons clips there. Account is
Speaker 3: sharing and they're like two hundred thousand followers.
Speaker 5: And they should be because that's nothing but net. That
Speaker 5: is nothing but net.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, exactly. So you're saying, so, why second
Speaker 3: did you pick Home as Enemy? Is this an episode
Speaker 3: that you enjoyed back when it first aired, or is
Speaker 3: it this one you've come to appreciate over time.
Speaker 5: So the first thing that tipped me off to it
Speaker 5: to rewatch it was a few years ago when Chuck
Speaker 5: close to him and brought out his book The Nineties.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And there's a little sidebar and there. It's
Speaker 5: an interesting book if people like to hear it, even
Speaker 5: if you didn't live through the nineties. Is he talks
Speaker 5: about Falling Down, the Michael Douglas film Falling Down, and
Speaker 5: about how it's a sort of a small film but
Speaker 5: what he calls an outweigh an outsized influence on culture,
Speaker 5: and it had, you know, a food fighter's video. There
Speaker 5: was a Metallica song I think I might have got
Speaker 5: the band wrong and a Simpson's character and I was like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, Frank Grimes, Yeah he looks like Michael Douglas
Speaker 5: from Falling Down.
Speaker 6: I better rewatch that.
Speaker 5: So I did, and when I rewatched it, you go, ah, right,
Speaker 5: this is as pure a we know what we're doing,
Speaker 5: we know what we're getting at, and let's try and
Speaker 5: flip something fundamental in the show and see if we
Speaker 5: can make it funny. Let's get someone who's the opposite
Speaker 5: of Homer, who hates him for how easy he has things,
Speaker 5: and what's that going to do for the rest of
Speaker 5: the show. And that's why I love it, because it's
Speaker 5: just it's just pure, it's pure.
Speaker 4: I came up with this awfully wanky line when I
Speaker 4: was rewatching it. There's a lot of talking about breaking
Speaker 4: the fourth wall. Shows will break the fourth wall and
Speaker 4: acknowledge you, and this is like breaking the fourth wall inwards. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like they know they also know at that
Speaker 5: point the discourse around home and that the show switched
Speaker 5: to be about him from Bart. They know that they
Speaker 5: know that there is an inherent ridiculousness to the fact
Speaker 5: that he has.
Speaker 6: This giant house space.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been in this space like they're commenting on
Speaker 5: the idea of the storylines they've have to come up with.
Speaker 5: And who would find that the most galling And it's exactly.
Speaker 5: It's a guy who has never had a second who's
Speaker 5: never had a break in life at all, and he
Speaker 5: would shit you. He Frank Homer is like, in a
Speaker 5: weird way, those Instagram like you know, lifestyle people where
Speaker 5: they're just on jets and like hesok, it's that and
Speaker 5: Frank and Frank Grimes is everybody else on the tram
Speaker 5: going fuck it? How fuck do they have their foot?
Speaker 5: You know that it's that they got that they're miles
Speaker 5: ahead with that.
Speaker 3: I don't have two hundred k do to invest in
Speaker 3: ship mate.
Speaker 6: That's what I mean. Yeah, I don't know what, I
Speaker 6: don't know what your crypto coins called, but money to
Speaker 6: give it?
Speaker 4: Why am I a Lambeau guy?
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. And it speaks to that, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just out of reach or how did they get
Speaker 5: that element of it? And also of course, as always,
Speaker 5: it's just so funny. It's just so funny, like the callback,
Speaker 5: you know, the dog at the.
Speaker 4: Stime my.
Speaker 5: Money burns once home because you know, once Frank Grimes
Speaker 5: because he's seen an inspirational story of him on television,
Speaker 5: and then once a dog who's done something inspirational the
Speaker 5: next day. Second callback is then the dog's walking with
Speaker 5: them in the hallway with the little.
Speaker 6: Sash on his vice president.
Speaker 5: And then when Frank Grimes gets in trouble, the dog's
Speaker 5: barking at him. It's just he's just like, that is
Speaker 5: just so clean.
Speaker 6: Two three a.
Speaker 3: Job that he didn't want in the first place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I told me to just one, two, three banks.
Speaker 5: Just that's just sold. My son laughed at that. My
Speaker 5: son was like, there's the dog and laugh and I
Speaker 5: was like, all right, now we're getting somewhere. But with
Speaker 5: the third one he really laughed at there's the dog. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's the dog.
Speaker 4: All the threes, but it hits the ground running this
Speaker 4: episode as well, because I mean, I'd forgotten that. It
Speaker 4: opens with Ken Bruckman's news report, and before even before
Speaker 4: you get to Ken's people, it's like, which is true,
Speaker 4: means death to us all? And now I don't but
Speaker 4: Can's people.
Speaker 6: It's like, and that's such a Simpsons joke.
Speaker 5: It really, that's a Simpson's joke for them to go,
Speaker 5: all right, here's one on the way in, then some
Speaker 5: story and there he's a feel on the way out.
Speaker 5: That's such a Simpsons thing to do.
Speaker 3: And one thing I've loved is just when they say
Speaker 3: abandoned at the age of four by his parents, and
Speaker 3: then they filmed themselves driving away.
Speaker 4: I've never realized that they're filming it.
Speaker 5: That is that that that's one of those ones where
Speaker 5: you go, all right, we have to do it. Well,
Speaker 5: they're all, we got how going to show this? What
Speaker 5: do we got that'll do nicely?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: And I think this is an episode that sort of
Speaker 4: hits differently when you see the different ages as well.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think when you've got a few more
Speaker 4: miles on the meter, you know, you look at it
Speaker 4: and you go, oh, you're either relating to Home or
Speaker 4: you're relating to Grimy, depends on your your state of
Speaker 4: mind at the time, your state of life, whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a very versatile episode.
Speaker 3: I remember when I was a kid, I did not
Speaker 3: like Grimes at all, and then when I rewatched it recently,
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm actually more like
Speaker 3: Frank Grimes.
Speaker 6: Than I realized, except and therein lies the beauty of it.
Speaker 6: And that's only because they've been going.
Speaker 4: So long that and also he's been working with me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go. But it's designed that way. It's
Speaker 6: designed for you to go.
Speaker 5: And also the be story of bart owning a factory,
Speaker 5: they only do it like three or four times because
Speaker 5: they want to have a B story. But you go,
Speaker 5: Holy Moly, Dawn going right at the death of American
Speaker 5: the death of American as exceptionalism and manufacturing and the
Speaker 5: idea that the types of jobs that Grimey Homer have
Speaker 5: may not keep it, may.
Speaker 6: Not still exist.
Speaker 5: So there's a factory that you can own. It gone
Speaker 5: and now you go, well that is now the case.
Speaker 5: And then when they have just they need something to
Speaker 5: go right, we need something to set Grimes off.
Speaker 6: What are we going to do? What are we going
Speaker 6: to do?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 5: Home is going to win a contest for children to
Speaker 5: design a better nuclear power plant, and of course, you know,
Speaker 5: Martin comes up with the one.
Speaker 4: That's actually powers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're powering this room right now, get out. And
Speaker 5: it's just I don't know as pound for pound as
Speaker 5: an episode.
Speaker 6: I think it's personally.
Speaker 5: I mean, I love you know, if you say what's
Speaker 5: your favorite episode that you ask people, it's like, yah,
Speaker 5: I'll give you my top two hundred ye.
Speaker 6: Down from there.
Speaker 5: But just as a if you're trying to say to someone,
Speaker 5: all right, why is this show good? It's this is
Speaker 5: one where you go watch this that guy's dumb, that
Speaker 5: guy works hard. It's like you said before, it's like ah,
Speaker 5: there's something for everyone. Everyone's relating to something in this.
Speaker 3: Do you think you can enjoy this one as much
Speaker 3: if you're not a diehard Simpsons fan though?
Speaker 6: Nah?
Speaker 5: No, No, this one for us. This is one for us,
Speaker 5: which is great because the thing I hate in the
Speaker 5: Simpsons and this is you know, probably says more about me.
Speaker 6: I hate the Heart.
Speaker 5: I hate Heart, I hate I hate it.
Speaker 6: It drives me up the wall.
Speaker 5: It's the one remnant of their shows that they always reference,
Speaker 5: the ball in the family and all of those things
Speaker 5: where they feel as they have to do it. You
Speaker 5: hear the music change, like, oh god, we know you
Speaker 5: love each other, like we get it good. The only
Speaker 5: good one is when Marge Princess Jasmine, I'm going to
Speaker 5: the backseat of the car with my wife and I
Speaker 5: went back for ten minutes.
Speaker 3: That was the bowling instructor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're all cheering like that's the only bit wrong,
Speaker 5: Like that's fantastic. Every other time when it's time for Heart,
Speaker 5: like the episode I hate is the one that least
Speaker 5: of the substitute.
Speaker 6: That's just I hate that episode.
Speaker 3: So I've never quite got the hype around that one.
Speaker 3: I don't hate it about it's gone, it's whatever. I
Speaker 3: do love to do it for her moment though, that
Speaker 3: as a dad always gets me.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's yeah, all right, well that's that's which
Speaker 5: is what they want.
Speaker 3: My opinion change after I became a father, though, I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and watching it with my son this time, and
Speaker 5: I know we'll get to the one at the end.
Speaker 5: I'm picking his favorite episode as one of my five.
Speaker 5: And why he likes that episode is like, really, okay,
Speaker 5: well fair enough, but it sort of makes you go
Speaker 5: if you can get people across that first line of
Speaker 5: don't tell them when the show started, just don't tell them, yeah,
Speaker 5: and just let them pick up any episode they want,
Speaker 5: as long as it's pasted about five or three possibly
Speaker 5: they if they can't get it.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't want to tell you because this is killing it.
Speaker 3: Because a lot of my kids they are like they
Speaker 3: like the new ones just I think just because it
Speaker 3: visually looks better as well. They prefer that. They's like
Speaker 3: watching it. And I say to my wife, I say,
Speaker 3: me putting on an old Simpsons kind of like my
Speaker 3: mum putting on like a Scooby Doo cartoon from the sixties,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that it's such an air it's a
Speaker 5: weird have that line, where does that line go? You
Speaker 5: know the line that the world record line when they
Speaker 5: show the swimming, it's like that the end of culture line,
Speaker 5: So you go, where is culture ending? As a sort
Speaker 5: of I can show this to someone and they won't go,
Speaker 5: this look shit. And it's like when I was at
Speaker 5: the video shop when I was trying to, you know,
Speaker 5: take home. You know, the world's crazy as bikers, and
Speaker 5: the two guys, Pete and Rob who ran this video stores,
Speaker 5: they actually just took them out of my hand, like
Speaker 5: watching that and I'm sixteen at this point. Okay, why hilarious?
Speaker 5: That is this guy's going to fall for Cliff and
Speaker 5: that guy is dead. But they took put those down.
Speaker 5: Why you can have mony Python and now for something
Speaker 5: completely different the thing, and you can have this, and
Speaker 5: you can have Blackadder, and you can watch these that's
Speaker 5: what you can watch. That's what you're allowed to watch,
Speaker 5: and then you can come back and tell us why
Speaker 5: you like it. And then spinal tap.
Speaker 4: Pete and Robs are like fucking bosses.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, they were as good as it gets and
Speaker 5: that so that was so crucial it was so crucial
Speaker 5: to just going, oh, I see, so there's a different
Speaker 5: way of finding jokes that is sorry, but it's better.
Speaker 5: And then the Simpsons comes along and they that's the
Speaker 5: stuff they all like. I mean, they put the guy
Speaker 5: from Spinal Tack in it for that reason, and you go, oh,
Speaker 5: I'll get it, and then you're off and that's the hope.
Speaker 4: This is something I've always said. There's a lot of
Speaker 4: hype around, a lot of sort of negative around gatekeepers,
Speaker 4: like oh god, we hate them. Yeah, the best gatekeepers
Speaker 4: aren't keeping you out, they're ushering you in. They're bringing
Speaker 4: me through the gates.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean this, you know, this show does that,
Speaker 5: and there's still you know, there's still so much good
Speaker 5: stuff that he's getting made and does get made. And
Speaker 5: it can be short form of cameo, TikTok, I don't know.
Speaker 5: But there's just there's a voice. This is what I
Speaker 5: call the YouTube voice.
Speaker 4: We were just talking about it.
Speaker 3: I totally relate. You can rant as much as you
Speaker 3: want about this. I'm totally in the same wavelength.
Speaker 4: Are you talking about people whore saying like this?
Speaker 6: And there's a guy I just do rewatching for this.
Speaker 5: I went on YouTube because I wanted to see the
Speaker 5: bit where he freaks out grinding again, just to see
Speaker 5: that sequence. And there was one where it was like
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there was one of the reasons.
Speaker 5: The other reason I was picked this episode is I
Speaker 5: was watching it so the joke that I'd never got.
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there with my son and they go
Speaker 5: and to go to the bar to sort of tell
Speaker 5: MO and that that he's this guy that hates him,
Speaker 5: and yeah, they're all trying to sort of come to
Speaker 5: terms with the idea that someone would hate Homer. And
Speaker 5: then you go, oh, and then he reads out his
Speaker 5: MO read out his enemy's list and his treamit a second,
Speaker 5: that's Richard Nixon's enemies list, right, And I just didn't
Speaker 5: I hadn't done enough Watergate or enough Nixon tapes time
Speaker 5: until now to go holy shit, that is and it
Speaker 5: is his list, and it's just a great joke. That's
Speaker 5: Richard Nixon's enemies list, a president that has gone for
Speaker 5: thirty something years when the episode's made, and I was like,
Speaker 5: come on, people, that is quarterbly doing that is is fantastic.
Speaker 4: But the centsens Riders were really out of heart on for.
Speaker 6: Nixon, which is odd.
Speaker 5: Just they should have been they would have been what
Speaker 5: young when he left right young? Early seventies, Yeah, seventy
Speaker 5: seventy three, when he flew away in marine too and
Speaker 5: no one ever saw him again.
Speaker 6: That's a great joke that I think. It's a Louis c.
Speaker 4: K joke.
Speaker 5: Who goes to the president just flew away one day.
Speaker 6: Which is true, but yes, you're right.
Speaker 5: And and remember he's got powerful enemies when is he
Speaker 5: what it was in the universe.
Speaker 3: Powerful the pig, the pig, powerful enemies.
Speaker 5: Just that Paranoya seventy four, he leaves and just just
Speaker 5: their their obsession with his paranoia is so funny.
Speaker 3: So funny. They then moves on to Futurama as well.
Speaker 6: I've never really watched Future Future.
Speaker 3: Richard Nixon is like the main villain of Futurama essentially
Speaker 3: becomes president of the world. Wow, you've never seen it.
Speaker 3: Billy West does an incredible Richard Nixon.
Speaker 6: I've seen some episodes of Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Just it's the genius of Swartsworld, whose name is on
Speaker 4: this episode. Look, I'm sure there are contributions from the
Speaker 4: Simpsons right in the room, but I mean it feels
Speaker 4: very swartzworlder in terms of like this is as black
Speaker 4: and grim as size that as it gets when it
Speaker 4: comes to like American cultural or world culture or whatever.
Speaker 5: So do we know if he'd seen falling down? Because yeah,
Speaker 5: I'd love to know. Maybe you could ask that. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: I'm blanket his name with the dude who had.
Speaker 6: The book, who's excellent Sigel. Yeah, maybe ask him and.
Speaker 5: Go, hey, listen, do you know if he'd seen had
Speaker 5: he seen falling down?
Speaker 3: Because he looks like is his personality trait based on
Speaker 3: the characters are just the design.
Speaker 4: Of similar just very tightly wound, like why is the
Speaker 4: world like this when I'm you know, when I'm bolding rules?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he attacks La by himself, as Chuck Plostman says,
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'd be interested to know if he how
Speaker 5: in the banks Wort's world I had this and thought, God,
Speaker 5: this is the right guy. Or if he's watched that
Speaker 5: and going, oh, you know what, that's interesting. What if
Speaker 5: he hates Homer? He doesn't hate La, he hates Homer.
Speaker 4: I think you were probably about to bring this up
Speaker 4: because you know, but I was really stunned to discover
Speaker 4: that one of the first people they were looking out
Speaker 4: to do the voice of friend Grumbs with Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 3: Oh, that doesn't surprise me at all, because this feels
Speaker 3: like a guest role usually perfect.
Speaker 6: It does.
Speaker 5: So it is almost strange when you look it up
Speaker 5: and you go, okay, one of them did it, and
Speaker 5: he says he based it.
Speaker 6: On It's Azaria, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does.
Speaker 3: William h Macy, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he goes.
Speaker 5: He says, he goes for William h Macy. Where you go, No,
Speaker 5: because h Macy is on the defensive. H Macy is
Speaker 5: like in Fargo, et cetera, et cetera. What he's good
Speaker 5: at exaid not the shame was but that was way later.
Speaker 5: But at that point he's good at being he is
Speaker 5: put upon.
Speaker 4: He's not. He's defensive, yeah, but he's not aggressive like
Speaker 4: in Falling Down Guy.
Speaker 6: This guy's front foot.
Speaker 5: So I was the Cage would have been amazing.
Speaker 3: I do find it interest in that they decided not
Speaker 3: to get a guest star because they wanted someone who's
Speaker 3: on the cast, because they understood the history of Homer's
Speaker 3: character as well, so they could emote correctly towards why
Speaker 3: you would be so frustrated.
Speaker 5: That is actually a very good point, and as usual
Speaker 5: if they're right, because the key scene is when he
Speaker 5: comes to his house, yep, and you live in this palace,
Speaker 5: my night job at the foundry. I live in an
Speaker 5: apartment above a bowling which is underneath another.
Speaker 3: Bow and Home's like wow, he wants that.
Speaker 6: That's the key.
Speaker 5: The key is that Homer is impressed by Grimey and
Speaker 5: thrilled by him right to the end. He's either indifferent.
Speaker 5: The only bit where he goes where he comes out
Speaker 5: and he looks in and he goes because I am
Speaker 5: Hermie Simpson, and which he does. And but that's such
Speaker 5: a clever it's such a clever way of keeping Homer
Speaker 5: in the episode because if Homer Cotton's on early and
Speaker 5: sort of they become adversaries like saying like mister plow
Speaker 5: or something, No, we've got nothing to do, grime He's
Speaker 5: got nowhere to go.
Speaker 4: They sort of stack the deck in favor of Homer
Speaker 4: in some ways by making him afraid, not afraid, but like,
Speaker 4: oh he doesn't like me.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I want this before. He's never had
Speaker 3: an enemy, he's never had anyone go out of their
Speaker 3: way to dislike him. No, yeah, And I mean I
Speaker 3: think everyone can sort of relate to that. I mean,
Speaker 3: what's that great John Mulaney line, who's like, I want
Speaker 3: everyone to like me. Is like my wife says, you're
Speaker 3: like the mayor of nothing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, which is which is Yeah, it's a good it's
Speaker 6: a good point.
Speaker 5: But he Homer has like all the things that he
Speaker 5: stacked up when I was on tour with the Smashing
Speaker 5: Pumpkins and when he met Gerald Ford, et cetera. And
Speaker 5: I've been to space you've never been. It's just it's
Speaker 5: it's a great reminder too. You go, yeah, that's right,
Speaker 5: there was that episode. That episode was good too. They're
Speaker 5: doing a clip show without having to do a clip show.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just adding some context to the back issue of the.
Speaker 5: Show, which I don't know, which they don't love to do.
Speaker 3: They don't know, they don't.
Speaker 5: They try and make sure that you've got memory wipe
Speaker 5: at the end of every episode statusquo. Yes, I then
Speaker 5: to go on this happened. You go, oh, that's good.
Speaker 5: That's interesting. That really helps.
Speaker 3: It's definitely suited this story for sure. Yeah. I also
Speaker 3: think this episode will sort of used just to point
Speaker 3: out the absurdity, like you said, because we always in
Speaker 3: the Simpsons adds. I think what appealed to it in
Speaker 3: the beginning was it was very relatable, but by this
Speaker 3: point it was kind of anything but relatable. The characters
Speaker 3: were relatable, but what was going on really wasn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'd love to know, you know, there's that
Speaker 5: great they'll do like the Chew to Dine Dynasty or whatever,
Speaker 5: and they'll show you, like, you know this person in
Speaker 5: rain till here and they just have lines such and
Speaker 5: such rain here and then Henry. Yeah, they to go
Speaker 5: over and then Elizabeth, Like, they'll do that. What I'd
Speaker 5: love to see is a writer's one for the Simpsons,
Speaker 5: because you go, what's the lifespan of a Simpsons writer
Speaker 5: to get to the end where you go, do you
Speaker 5: know what? I just I don't know what else? What
Speaker 5: else have I got here? Because they used to do?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: They talk about that in Seinfeld where they are they're
Speaker 5: just after.
Speaker 4: A while the tank's empty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't, we can't. It's too intense.
Speaker 3: It could be that you come up with an idea
Speaker 3: and then you realize you've already done it.
Speaker 6: How much must that happen on the Simpsons.
Speaker 5: Oh now, of course, can you imagine, like the most
Speaker 5: more recent ones, they're still funny. I just don't get
Speaker 5: I find it strange. No, they're not as good to go, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but they are.
Speaker 6: You just don't. You can't.
Speaker 5: It's still because you're also in nostalgia.
Speaker 3: Nostalgia plays a big role.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're a different person when you watch those first
Speaker 5: ones like these. This is a funny episodes my son's
Speaker 5: watching sort of set more recent seasons. They're funny. They're
Speaker 5: just funny. They're still funny, and that is impossible. Thirty
Speaker 5: something years in, I.
Speaker 3: Think there was a period where and they call it
Speaker 3: jerkass Home and we're in season twenty one now, the
Speaker 3: show on it from cologeal Order, and the character of
Speaker 3: Home is just so dumb down. He's not howd a
Speaker 3: cannibal for any of his bullshit anymore.
Speaker 6: I've heard you say that when he's that what's what?
Speaker 3: As some of those episodes, there is an episode that
Speaker 3: I always bring up called Codependence Day, where Marge and
Speaker 3: Homer are driving home from a party and Home has
Speaker 3: been drinking much as I'll drive, and he goes, no,
Speaker 3: I'm fine, So he drink drives, crashes the car, bails
Speaker 3: out of the car, puts her in the driver's seat,
Speaker 3: and he has her copped the reactive the result of it,
Speaker 3: and then doesn't be how to accountable for it. She
Speaker 3: apologizes at the end for being so mean to him.
Speaker 3: That's an episode that's like the apex.
Speaker 4: Of jerk out somewhere. But they had been had been
Speaker 4: leading up to that, with just he was being dumbed
Speaker 4: down more and more, it seemed, and Ye had no
Speaker 4: accountability for his actions in this regard. I mean, he's
Speaker 4: dumbed down in this, but there's a degree of accountability
Speaker 4: by way of Frank Grime sort of calling him out
Speaker 4: for this, and by extension calling us out, like you're
Speaker 4: really tolerating this, aren't you, guys? Is that this is
Speaker 4: what you want? You're really into this.
Speaker 3: But putting your wife behind the wheel of a car
Speaker 3: you smashed your drink driving, that's what Homer became.
Speaker 6: I've seen that.
Speaker 5: This is one of those ones where I'll start I'll
Speaker 5: go I haven't seen him, and I'll start watching like, ah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I got.
Speaker 6: Oh so okay.
Speaker 5: And then Lisa confronts a famous movie director about the
Speaker 5: drop and quality his films have taken.
Speaker 3: Oh was that George Lucas?
Speaker 6: One is that it must be, because yeah.
Speaker 4: That's right. They give him another name. They don't call
Speaker 4: them Lucas, but it's essentially Lucas.
Speaker 3: They have they make him a little person and everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was shit.
Speaker 5: Oh so that's two thousand and four. So what's happening
Speaker 5: in Star Wars at two thousand and four?
Speaker 3: We've got the last that's in between Mane of the
Speaker 3: Sith comes out the following year.
Speaker 4: That's in between Attack of the Clones and Seth.
Speaker 5: All right, so we're riding that midst the mire of
Speaker 5: what has he done? You're right in the midst of
Speaker 5: what has he done? And Okay, this is an interesting
Speaker 5: I'm going to have to rewatch this one because that
Speaker 5: does read extremely like often think about the the actors,
Speaker 5: like you know, howr you shere is very forthright in
Speaker 5: talking about you know. I remember him saying I was
Speaker 5: walking through an airport in Argentina or somewhere in South
Speaker 5: America and I heard my own voice and thought, I'm
Speaker 5: not being paid for that. And he's great like that,
Speaker 5: to go, hang on, this is our likeness.
Speaker 6: Our image.
Speaker 5: I wonder what they do when they pick up a
Speaker 5: script like that. I wonder if any of them said, geez, guys,
Speaker 5: what are we doing?
Speaker 3: Harry said. We interviewed him many years ago, Harry and
Speaker 3: Harry said there was a moment where, in better terms,
Speaker 3: basically said I stopped caring. Was when he said Flanders.
Speaker 3: He said Flanders wouldn't say this, and they said it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, and he goes, I realized I was writing
Speaker 3: jokes and assigning it to characters as opposed to getting
Speaker 3: a character and writting a joke for them.
Speaker 7: Oh that is very interesting, okay, because there's a what
Speaker 7: I heard an interview with one of the producers once
Speaker 7: and he said something very interesting.
Speaker 5: One of those guys that start, you know, those really
Speaker 5: rich guys. There's the guys at the start, really rich
Speaker 5: dude to the end of somewhere rich, the.
Speaker 6: Guys that started really rich.
Speaker 5: And one of them said he was very into animal
Speaker 5: welfare and whatever. Yeah, have you heard him talk about
Speaker 5: this where he goes his wife kind said to him, oh, hey,
Speaker 5: what are you doing You pay for like some giant
Speaker 5: horse thing somewhere You've spent all our money And he goes.
Speaker 6: What day is it? She goes Wednesday. There's no what days?
Speaker 3: Is it.
Speaker 6: The eighth? There's eighth?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, Simpsons check arrives on the fourteenth, so we'll
Speaker 5: be rich again.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 5: It's a great it's a great line, and it's a
Speaker 5: great story, and even if it's half through, it's wonderful.
Speaker 6: It's stuck with me that line.
Speaker 4: Also, that wife turned out to be Jennifer Tilly, so
Speaker 4: I think Sam Sung was doing right for himself for Tilly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 6: Okay, we're all learning something.
Speaker 3: I'm learned a little something to this episode here though,
Speaker 3: as we're saying, very divisive. I love going back through
Speaker 3: the forums from the nineties when season seven eight of
Speaker 3: The Simpsons was on and everyone's saying, the show's no
Speaker 3: good anymore, they need to cancel it. What happened to
Speaker 3: add beloved show? This is season seven eight of The Simpsons.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, there's everything you need to know. Yeah, there
Speaker 5: is everything you need to know. It's like going back
Speaker 5: and reading reviews of Shakespeare from people who you know,
Speaker 5: from local local wags that saw it, and she's and
Speaker 5: said that, you know, she's king lib bang Gon for
Speaker 5: a while, so you know, it's that it's there is
Speaker 5: no value in review.
Speaker 6: I'm doing this thing.
Speaker 5: SBS is doing a really smart thing at the moment
Speaker 5: where they're replaying old David and Margaret movie show episodes,
Speaker 5: and the really strong impression you get is this was
Speaker 5: a complete waste of time.
Speaker 6: He hated the.
Speaker 4: Castle, hated Romba Stomper, God.
Speaker 6: Rest his soul.
Speaker 5: He's since he sort of walked it back over the
Speaker 5: journey and you don't have to love the cars. Well
Speaker 5: that's fine, whatever, but it's just the other day, it's
Speaker 5: just like, oh my goodness, you're right. Review and criticism
Speaker 5: in that well you're not trying to push the ball
Speaker 5: forward in any way, is a complete waste of time.
Speaker 5: And that must be like those forum people, what was
Speaker 5: their best case scenario? Like what's a home run? If
Speaker 5: you're a forum what was good at that time? Also
Speaker 5: like what's a home run for a forum commenter? Yea,
Speaker 5: what is a home run?
Speaker 4: It used to be running first, like you were the
Speaker 4: first comment?
Speaker 5: Is the thing you go first? So if you were first,
Speaker 5: so you thought of something first.
Speaker 4: I was just saying the word further comment.
Speaker 6: Just saying first, saying anything.
Speaker 4: Real Algonquin Roundtable in the forums that's excellent.
Speaker 6: That's excellent.
Speaker 3: Still you still see this ship on YouTube. We put
Speaker 3: a video up and this is like, first, I'm like cool,
Speaker 3: thanks all contribution. By the way, as someone who used
Speaker 3: to make a living as a as a film critic,
Speaker 3: my mighty heart is breaking.
Speaker 4: I'll be in the humpy.
Speaker 5: Well well then then let me ask you, then, what
Speaker 5: do you think because I've got a rule. I've had
Speaker 5: a rule that I've tried to that I think should
Speaker 5: be enforced. You shouldn't be allowed to write to review
Speaker 5: a film until you've made on.
Speaker 4: Does this count sex tapes?
Speaker 6: Of course?
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
Speaker 5: I did an art history degree at UNI, right, and
Speaker 5: it was at Sydney University and it was a three
Speaker 5: year degree and I got it just under six years.
Speaker 6: So I came in under the.
Speaker 5: Wire and I that was just an excuse to be there,
Speaker 5: to go and meet people and do comedy, et cetera,
Speaker 5: which it's sort of turned into.
Speaker 6: But you know, I'm good in the gallery.
Speaker 5: With my wife and I went and saw the Impressionist
Speaker 5: the other day and I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty good
Speaker 5: in this gallery and I was.
Speaker 6: But you realize, you go, what just what? So what.
Speaker 5: So my question to you, as someone who made a
Speaker 5: living reviewing films, which watch which outlets?
Speaker 4: I was with the paper down here, the Advertiser, but
Speaker 4: also did a TV guide that was syndicated around the country.
Speaker 4: If you're on the.
Speaker 5: Cases as well, said the Advertiser. Right, So let's say
Speaker 5: that you're a reviewer for The Guardian today. You know,
Speaker 5: before you start watching something, what.
Speaker 4: You have to give it that scans you have to like.
Speaker 5: There are certain things that have to get five starts,
Speaker 5: and there are certain things that, if the Guardian is
Speaker 5: to maintain itself, have to get one. So in the Advertiser,
Speaker 5: how did you sift the like, how did you sift? Like,
Speaker 5: all right, what are we doing here? It's like because
Speaker 5: you have some who likes things, So how did you
Speaker 5: sift which things were going to be cannon for Advertiser
Speaker 5: readers and viewers.
Speaker 4: I like to think they actually gave me a fair
Speaker 4: bit of leeway in that regard. I mean I didn't
Speaker 4: really get the word from up top. It's like, okay,
Speaker 4: a new Australian movie or say new twentieth century Fox
Speaker 4: product given of the Advertiser. I was never sort of
Speaker 4: given a directive in that sense.
Speaker 5: I mean, you would have had a sense in your mind,
Speaker 5: so you're not going to go and watch you know,
Speaker 5: give me some years, Give me some years that.
Speaker 6: That you did it.
Speaker 4: I was from mid nineties to mid twenty ten.
Speaker 5: Which is amazing time because there were so many good films. Absolutely,
Speaker 5: let's say you went and saw Adaptation, so I know
Speaker 5: that if I'm on Triple J I've got to give
Speaker 5: it five stars and pretend I know something. Right, what's
Speaker 5: the what are you doing? Okay, right, I talk to
Speaker 5: you about Adaptation? Fun?
Speaker 6: What am I going to do here?
Speaker 4: It's a weird thing because I mean I sort of
Speaker 4: recognized I'm doing. I'm not really doing in depth film
Speaker 4: criticism here. I'm not going here to cinema or something
Speaker 4: like that. I'm basically doing consumer about what you're going
Speaker 4: to watch on a Saturday night, you know.
Speaker 6: Which is great. That's a great service. That's different.
Speaker 5: That is a different service because that is the sift,
Speaker 5: and we need people who help more than anything. Now,
Speaker 5: the sift. That's a different service. That's a great service.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But by the time anotation came out, which is
Speaker 4: like two thousand and two or whatever, I like to
Speaker 4: think the people who were reading my stuff. Realize, Okay,
Speaker 4: guy likes this. I can trust him on this. I
Speaker 4: mean I had friends who were saying, I like reading
Speaker 4: the reviews because I know what not to watch, because
Speaker 4: your taste and mine are completely similar.
Speaker 6: Which is that is good?
Speaker 5: That is that is a worthwhile exercise in the sift
Speaker 5: what I call the sift, you know, versus just this
Speaker 5: is shit or this isn't or knowing, like knowing the
Speaker 5: bias of the thing before you go into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the thing of it is, Yeah, you don't
Speaker 4: want to be sort of you don't want to be
Speaker 4: a snob, but you don't want to be sort of
Speaker 4: down talking either. You don't want to be saying well,
Speaker 4: folks go and enjoy Independence Day. I guess yeah, I know.
Speaker 6: See that's the thing that's key.
Speaker 5: Like what about like something like armageddon or you know,
Speaker 5: do you know where that rubber hits the road with this?
Speaker 6: Connie, I was.
Speaker 3: A kid in Conne. I loved Conye but the best Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was great. Yeah, I mean it's it's it knows
Speaker 3: because it knows exactly what it's trying to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right. It's coherent and it's a little
Speaker 4: bit smarter than it needs to be, but it also
Speaker 4: just hits you in the pleasure center because that's its job.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 4: We're gonna throw Dave Chappelle out of a plane. Sorry
Speaker 4: spoiler for conne folks, but you know, and Nicolas Cage
Speaker 4: is going to speak in this weird drawl and Malcovich
Speaker 4: is going to chew the scenery. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: you know, you've got that line where they're introducing ving
Speaker 4: Range's character and is like, yeah, he wrote his revolutionary
Speaker 4: manifesto in jail. They're looking at Denzel for the lead.
Speaker 4: It's like, that's great fucking funny and that's smart, and
Speaker 4: you know that's smuggling the dog medicine and the peanut
Speaker 4: butter is what I'm doing.
Speaker 6: So ye, it's getting back to the cenisons.
Speaker 5: We're better get back to the point being that no
Speaker 5: one does it better than they do, and that's what
Speaker 5: this episode is. That's why I bring it up, because
Speaker 5: no one does it better than they do over a
Speaker 5: long period of time, and that's why I was interested.
Speaker 5: When you're talking about Home or sounds like, I wonder
Speaker 5: if what Harry Shira said there is very instructive because
Speaker 5: that makes you go, all right, that attitude times ten people,
Speaker 5: and you can lose the idea of the sort of
Speaker 5: gauge of what Home is up to.
Speaker 6: That's how it could happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because so many times recently haven't we said that's
Speaker 3: a funny line. Doesn't really suit that character though, but
Speaker 3: it's just yeah, and it feels like recently we say
Speaker 3: recently season twenty one they picked that. It's like the
Speaker 3: writers whom have their favorites for the season. So sidehame
Speaker 3: Mail in like season nineteen twenty appeared in like every
Speaker 3: single episode with a big monologue. This guy picked like
Speaker 3: ten episodes in the Golden Ear and now is in
Speaker 3: every episode.
Speaker 6: Well, his best joke.
Speaker 5: Is when bart is I think he's the one where
Speaker 5: he's the preacher and he's dancing down the aisle and
Speaker 5: faith off, yeah, faith off, and Si Joe Male stands
Speaker 5: up and says he's kicking at the old school like that.
Speaker 5: That's that's the side Joe Mail's joke is to be
Speaker 5: contemporary in a Shakespearean and the.
Speaker 3: Stuff he was yeah, yeah, but when he's doing it
Speaker 3: every episode, yeah, it was bizarre.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, one thing I do love about Simpsons D
Speaker 3: again is that I feel like they introduced me to
Speaker 3: so many key elements of pop culture about me even
Speaker 3: realizing it. There are so many moments where you' watching
Speaker 3: it going as a kid, I don't know what's happening here,
Speaker 3: but this has to be something.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I've heard a few people on your guests on
Speaker 5: your show say, and you know, even yourselves that when
Speaker 5: you watched it initially, if you watched it with someone
Speaker 5: older and something they laughed at that you didn't understand.
Speaker 5: And my son, one of the things I love with
Speaker 5: my son is I made a stupid rod for my
Speaker 5: own back back was when he was started to talk
Speaker 5: and asked I said to myself, I will never say
Speaker 5: I don't know to him. If he asked me something,
Speaker 5: I will never say I don't know. So I'll say
Speaker 5: I'll either know it or I'll say all right, and
Speaker 5: then we'll work it out. Because I've got the whole world.
Speaker 5: I've got everything that's ever been known ever in my pocket.
Speaker 5: I have no right to say to him I don't know,
Speaker 5: because that's just laziness to not look into the machine
Speaker 5: that knows everything ever and tell him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but did you forget about the bandless curiosity be young.
Speaker 5: That's the issue.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm like a fucking town librarian. I am
Speaker 6: all gay.
Speaker 5: I'm making I'm making the JFK Records Act every fucking
Speaker 5: day because I am down in the weeds of this kid.
Speaker 5: And sadly, he's got a bit of my pedantry about him,
Speaker 5: which is, you know, tough going for all of us.
Speaker 5: But it's like meeting myself. It's awful and where he's
Speaker 5: the greatest. But you know what I'm saying, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this must be one of us to be around, like
Speaker 5: to be around.
Speaker 4: Me, So then HEKMA.
Speaker 5: But anyway, he's the greatest thing of all time. Of course,
Speaker 5: as is my daughter who's three years old. And my
Speaker 5: secret found me. They're nice too, so they so you know,
Speaker 5: I never say that. So I'm now we watch pause,
Speaker 5: what Daddy, what's a you know, well, who's Richard Nixon's
Speaker 5: Is that Richard Nixon's enemies list? I'm like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: that one. I know, no worries every time. We're just
Speaker 5: watching and he's just he says, Daddy watched this. Daddy
Speaker 5: was at Daddy was this, And I love it because
Speaker 5: I am thrilled by the idea of going, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: well they're referencing a movie where this happens, or that's
Speaker 5: because this person used to do that, or that's based
Speaker 5: on this person.
Speaker 3: I love it and he's interested.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's just it's so fun to sit there with
Speaker 5: him and just sort of, you know, pick the references
Speaker 5: as we go.
Speaker 6: It's so fun.
Speaker 4: There's nothing better than being able to teach, except being
Speaker 4: able to teach someone who really wants to learn.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, And while we're laughing, while we'll laughing, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just he just laughing.
Speaker 3: He just laughs about it. Does he ever turn to
Speaker 3: you to sort of go, was that funny? Like my son,
Speaker 3: I find someone I'm watching it and I'm laughing sort
Speaker 3: of look at me, and he goes, oh, that must
Speaker 3: be funny. I'm gona laugh as well.
Speaker 5: That was Nixon's enemies list. When I saw it, I laughed,
Speaker 5: and he goes, who's that? I go, all right, here
Speaker 5: we go Nixon blah blah blah blah blah.
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Speaker 5: My favorite favorite moments, it's when he Grimey rots out
Speaker 5: to the house and this that the first, the disheveled
Speaker 5: nature of Grimy, that he's going to another job, and
Speaker 5: that the family's all lined up and everyone's perfect. It's
Speaker 5: this tiny moment where he goes, Simpson, I have to
Speaker 5: get to my job, and he stops me.
Speaker 6: He goes, he goes with his house.
Speaker 5: That's I love that bit because just so it's funny,
Speaker 5: but it's just so, it's perfectly written, it's perfectly timed.
Speaker 6: It's just so perfect.
Speaker 4: One of my favorites is an immediate follow on from that,
Speaker 4: where he's like, how can you afford to live in
Speaker 4: a house? Lives at home? Is like, don't ask me
Speaker 4: how the economy works.
Speaker 6: Don't ask me how the economy works. Is just her.
Speaker 6: It's so spot on. I agree with you.
Speaker 5: The first the opening montage to get us to know
Speaker 5: what Grimy is.
Speaker 3: Like, is just abanded by his parents at the age four.
Speaker 4: Heaven Delivering presents the more fortunate.
Speaker 5: Delivering presents the more fortunate. I mean, you're never going
Speaker 5: to write a joke as good as that. You can
Speaker 5: just hope that at some point you're.
Speaker 3: Close pitching himself to feel pain again.
Speaker 6: Healthy and fails to feel pain again. Oh man, that is.
Speaker 5: And then the dog, the dog, the first part of
Speaker 5: the dog, get me that dog, And then the dog's
Speaker 5: barking at Grimy when he's cross with you.
Speaker 3: That is threatening, threatening of a job they didn't even
Speaker 3: ask for in the first place.
Speaker 6: We didn't want.
Speaker 5: That's just so wonderful. And tell you what else is really
Speaker 5: good in the b story when Bart wanders past the
Speaker 5: thing what gonna get for a Latin number of seventy
Speaker 5: one seventy a buck? The phrase a buck, and then
Speaker 5: that the little auction you're going off.
Speaker 4: That's all. I'm just looking at Dando's notes here under favorites,
Speaker 4: and we've both got hey, hey, stretch, what's the good
Speaker 4: work so much?
Speaker 3: Because he's not being a jerk, he's trying to be nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can see how that would get incredibly irritated.
Speaker 5: I stretch, what's yeah, that's a really good joke as well,
Speaker 5: so that that that's my the chief And then of
Speaker 5: course everyone's favorite moment when Grimy or Grimy as you
Speaker 5: into the coffin's the channel mode and everyone starts laughing
Speaker 5: that is my son really laughed at that, and I
Speaker 5: really laughed at that, and you go, because that's one
Speaker 5: of those things where they've written it so well that
Speaker 5: you're thinking to yourself.
Speaker 6: How are they going to get themselves out of this one?
Speaker 5: And then watching my son, Oh, I died, I died,
Speaker 5: and then he laughs at changed the channel, change the gam.
Speaker 3: Just what's what to say about the death of Grimy?
Speaker 4: Ry was asking for it?
Speaker 6: Classic spots well done.
Speaker 5: One of the great things about him is you will
Speaker 5: never pin him down to sincerity, and that is just
Speaker 5: such a fresh air in my dream in life. Is
Speaker 5: that he gets forced to go on one of those
Speaker 5: shows that I call Millionaires winging, where rich people go
Speaker 5: on podcast to cry about how vulnerable they are.
Speaker 6: That is.
Speaker 4: CEO fucking see it.
Speaker 6: So they yeah.
Speaker 5: So that to me is just that's one thing I
Speaker 5: love about him. And there's such a nineties attitude, that
Speaker 5: is a nineties attitude done to perfection, that that sort
Speaker 5: of I don't want to sell out even though I'm
Speaker 5: a zillion are staying mildly what's the word cantankerous, but
Speaker 5: not being an asshole about it. It was just what Conan.
Speaker 5: I've heard Conan speak about it before. You know, Conan
Speaker 5: talked about how it was the worst time of his life.
Speaker 5: It was the best time of his life. But you
Speaker 5: realize with Conan, because he's such a crazy, goofy affable fellow,
Speaker 5: that the discipline which he talks about that was drummed
Speaker 5: into him in those in those years while he retained
Speaker 5: that zaniness is just so great. That's why though his
Speaker 5: episodes are so good, I think because it's his insanity
Speaker 5: and zaniness butting up against.
Speaker 6: The swartsworlders of this world. That just going nut.
Speaker 5: It's got to have an edge to it, it's got
Speaker 5: to have a bit of cantankerous to it. And so
Speaker 5: but you don't lose any spirit when you do it.
Speaker 5: And the Conan episodes, I think have the best supplementary
Speaker 5: characters that that that that we get.
Speaker 3: Through Laura Langley, Laura Powers and and the three nerds.
Speaker 6: Was that he you would call yeah, yeah, there's the Dean.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, if you want to, and straight away you go, well,
Speaker 8: now the Pretenders, I don't know the pretenders were.
Speaker 5: My boss, Pete was a music nerd, so he told
Speaker 5: me who the pretenders were, and then we would watch
Speaker 5: a pretender's think, I do you know the pretenders were?
Speaker 6: That he showed me.
Speaker 4: That's the thing when they're throw in gags like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I forgot which episode it is, but Martin
Speaker 4: Prince has some gag where it's like first call against
Speaker 4: ten tickets a super tramp, super.
Speaker 5: Tramp and everyone laughs, and having done commercial radio, I'm like,
Speaker 5: that's me.
Speaker 6: I have done versions of that. Well, let's not forget that.
Speaker 5: When the when when the Flanders loses this house and
Speaker 5: they have to go to the strip shop to get clothes,
Speaker 5: is it Todds in a butthole surface? Yes, look look daddy,
Speaker 5: I'm a surfer. And of course you go.
Speaker 6: That's funny, okay.
Speaker 5: They had that one single, and apart from that, they
Speaker 5: were like an Narco Siminus commune who played weird jam music,
Speaker 5: which you know, something that close to him brings to
Speaker 5: mind and you go, yeah, and the big and then
Speaker 5: you go, oh, that's funny. And then you subsequent reading
Speaker 5: years later, reading something close to him, wrote, you go yeah,
Speaker 5: and they awes them to shriek to uh, to abbreviate
Speaker 5: it to the BS no, to the B eight surfers
Speaker 5: when it was on radio, and you know, so that's
Speaker 5: just a that's a six level joke, which is as
Speaker 5: good as it gets.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Another moment for me is the super relatable not even
Speaker 3: in the ape, it's in the B plot and it's
Speaker 3: relatable as I get old as a kid, didn't quite
Speaker 3: get why this was funny, but Millhouse was walking around saying, so,
Speaker 3: this is my life, this is.
Speaker 5: My life is It's like, you know, you know, you
Speaker 5: guys talk a lot about things to get means, and
Speaker 5: of course the number one is that through the which
Speaker 5: through the hedge is you know, one day I'd love
Speaker 5: someone to do a really good, smart definitive how the
Speaker 5: fuck did through the Hedge become the meme to end
Speaker 5: all memes.
Speaker 3: I'm the same with steamed hands and it's not a
Speaker 3: funny joke, but it's a great reaction. It's a gift.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but what's that?
Speaker 5: How did it go from that in a Simpsons episode
Speaker 5: to a world star of Now.
Speaker 3: It's a funk o pop.
Speaker 5: Well, I'd love to anyway, I'd I would just I'd
Speaker 5: love that.
Speaker 6: I'd love to know that.
Speaker 5: Also, Kner wrote the New York episode, which didn't make
Speaker 5: my list but.
Speaker 3: Should have now a the Three, didn't He Yeah, because
Speaker 3: he wrotes the city of New York versus Homer. Now
Speaker 3: that was like season that was like season eight. He
Speaker 3: less in like season four.
Speaker 5: I thought he wrote nine. I thought he wrote some
Speaker 5: of that one for nine.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe maybe he contributed to it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he's a soul writer on the Okay, maybe you're right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 5: That's got the Well, that's not the world's greatest joke
Speaker 5: in it.
Speaker 6: Give me again a drink Mountain j.
Speaker 4: Or crab juice, crab juice, Give me a crab juice.
Speaker 5: And then years later that guy in an episode where
Speaker 5: he's got a crab juice and hula halash like Empire
Speaker 5: around America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cam, I so good, am I?
Speaker 6: But who's got that institutional memory?
Speaker 5: They're sitting there, they're going, we need someone who sells food,
Speaker 5: and someone goes you know what, what if the guy
Speaker 5: from fifteen years ago who sold hull halash and crab
Speaker 5: juice on a street vending machine. Now, like, who who
Speaker 5: is the person you go to find this out for me?
Speaker 5: And I'd love you to let me who is the
Speaker 5: person who holds the institutional memory at the Simpsons as
Speaker 5: it Gene? I would love is it our Gene?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's the guy that go to and he'll
Speaker 3: go we did that in episode seven four zero to
Speaker 3: season twelve, we can't do it again.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so it's ol Gene who does that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was out at the start and he
Speaker 3: left for a while to do the critic and then
Speaker 3: he came back critics.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dense. That's a whole backstory between the critic
Speaker 3: and versus the Simpsons where they Matt Granny was not
Speaker 3: a fan. That's because they brought the character onto the Simpsons. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know it spit dodgy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of those that's one of those who
Speaker 5: came up with this scenario.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. But but following for me is that
Speaker 3: I do love the Smithers. Smithers is gay gags from
Speaker 3: the folding the Golden here, which was just subtle enough
Speaker 3: where if you're a kid, didn't really know what's going on.
Speaker 3: But when Ralph brings out the malibous Stacey dream house,
Speaker 3: it's pretty good, sir.
Speaker 9: It's pretty good, sir. It's a great joke. It's pretty good,
Speaker 9: sir that I think. Do you know what I realized?
Speaker 9: You know when I got that joke? I know exactly.
Speaker 9: I remember the exact moment where I was like, oh,
Speaker 9: I think you might be gay. I can't remember which
Speaker 9: episode it is, but you'll tell me. When they turned
Speaker 9: on Smithers's computer and.
Speaker 3: He's, hello, Smithers, quite good turning me on, you probably
Speaker 3: should ignore that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now you know, because it's up to me because
Speaker 5: I've got to go and do a thing in the minute.
Speaker 5: So here's my I've got to I'm gonna leave you
Speaker 5: with I'm going to tell you my marathon.
Speaker 6: Yeah marathon.
Speaker 5: Now I'm going to leave you with the joke that
Speaker 5: is that is currently inspiring a show that we are
Speaker 5: trying to make me and me and people who know
Speaker 5: that I reference every day when we're doing it and
Speaker 5: even send them the video Simpson's joke that changes everything.
Speaker 5: Here we go, So mine is monorail, because you have
Speaker 5: to have monail. It's just the way it is. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: but it's just the way it is. The other day
Speaker 5: I heard something someone get on a soccer show gets
Speaker 5: something wrong about the Simpsons episode.
Speaker 3: Mate.
Speaker 5: I was close to a four on I know the
Speaker 5: guy that does show, and I almost text him like,
Speaker 5: whoa wait? A star is Burns the film the film
Speaker 5: with a critic as a firm film criticuing because it's
Speaker 5: got my son's favorite joke in it. Can you guess
Speaker 5: what my seven year old son's favorite Simpsons.
Speaker 6: Joke so far?
Speaker 3: I'm getting hit by football is a George. She's got
Speaker 3: getting hit in the nuts?
Speaker 4: Yeah, grind football in the boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. My son loves it to just he loves the
Speaker 3: sound offfect dwink. The joint is perfect and Homer's follow
Speaker 3: up laugh absolutely is just the button.
Speaker 6: Takes him a second to get it.
Speaker 5: My son is helpless, so we'll play football outside and
Speaker 5: then I was just pretending to get hitting the groan
Speaker 5: and go football in the ground and he is helpless.
Speaker 5: Home of the great You have to you just can't not.
Speaker 5: You can't if you don't love the stone kind of
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I can't help you. I can't help you
Speaker 5: if you don't think that's the best thing to ever happened.
Speaker 3: I supporters on Patreon arrasting that we call them.
Speaker 6: That's perfect. Home is the Enemy, and then Homer Batman
Speaker 6: is mine.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's rock bottom.
Speaker 1: It's just so, it's like it's starring Dennis friand Dennis
Speaker 1: France is in that yes, running over a cat.
Speaker 5: It's just yeah, it's got everything. Once again. Take the
Speaker 5: date off it, change the aspect ratio, polish it up,
Speaker 5: put it out today, and you'll be hailed as a genius.
Speaker 3: It's more reliable now than it was then.
Speaker 4: Mate, don't take your anger around on me.
Speaker 6: It's nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3: How did they amazing?
Speaker 5: And I'll leave you with this. So talking Krusty is
Speaker 5: in the Lisa Versus Malibu Stacey, right, and so please
Speaker 5: put this in after I wander off. Now, So Lisa
Speaker 5: is about to go and record Lisa Lionheart on the
Speaker 5: door opens.
Speaker 3: Crusty's in a.
Speaker 5: Tennis uniform, all right, and he runs through the thing.
Speaker 6: He's got a cigar.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, okay, here we go talking crasty lines. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm talking crusty. Take take two, say Jill Mouth, Si
Speaker 5: chi Mouth, I'm done, and he leaves and you hear
Speaker 5: the cargo and then they pan back and the guy
Speaker 5: is putting the real on to record it, and he says, Okay, Kristy,
Speaker 5: we're ready to Kresty. And Krusty's gone. So we're trying
Speaker 5: to make the show and there's got a lot of
Speaker 5: cameos in it. And I've been testing this thing. It's
Speaker 5: called talking crusty. If you've got someone who you're asking
Speaker 5: for their time, and they're giving you their time, which
Speaker 5: is great. Your only job is to be ready for
Speaker 5: when they get there.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 5: That's all you gotta do. If you're ready for them,
Speaker 5: then let them get the fuck out of there, because
Speaker 5: they've got whatever it is, they're busy, and so you
Speaker 5: go all good. That talking Krusty is such a great
Speaker 5: metaphor for just fucking get just hurry up, hurry up life.
Speaker 4: Lesson, learn from a professional kid.
Speaker 5: Professional kid, because he's he's right, says arming and ring
Speaker 5: and wasting everyone's time.
Speaker 6: Thanks, he's right first, he is.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, all right, Well thank you so much. I
Speaker 3: do I know you're a very busy man, we do
Speaker 3: appreciate you being here this week and yeah, all the
Speaker 3: best for it comes in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: Well it's been a pleasure, guys, thank you very much
Speaker 5: for having me. It's a great show. I love that
Speaker 5: you're doing it. It's just such a great thing to
Speaker 5: be celebrating it. And long way it continue because it's
Speaker 5: I'm loving the interviews you get. It's really fast, even
Speaker 5: for Simpson's nerd like me. It's absolutely fascinating. So well
Speaker 5: done to both of you.
Speaker 4: Jed, appreciate it. Come back anytime, mate, Thanks Jed's.
Speaker 3: I said is Ed Cavaliy's portion of this week's show.
Speaker 3: What a gentleman, what a character, what a professional.
Speaker 4: Very very much so. I mean we all have I
Speaker 4: think a long standing relationship with Ed from the Australian
Speaker 4: entertainment community everybody, and he generally comes across as a
Speaker 4: very pleasant kind of brought the heater. He was throbbing fast. Great,
Speaker 4: it was great, it was fantastic. I loved it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, come back any type. But right now we're
Speaker 3: gonna be doing our run through portion of Homy's Enemy
Speaker 3: because you know he's a very busy man. Ad So
Speaker 3: we got out. We've got an hour out of him.
Speaker 3: That's he's got you know, pie too, remember the rest
Speaker 3: he schooled us?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? But yeah, okay, let's have your time, trip your time?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 3: Next question?
Speaker 4: You there eating the paste?
Speaker 3: All right, go for it, my face. Your first question.
Speaker 4: My first question home had how many beers at lunch? Oh?
Speaker 3: Ten?
Speaker 4: Three?
Speaker 3: Three? All right? My first question is gramy got a
Speaker 3: diploma in nuclear physics with a minor in what.
Speaker 4: A minor in determination?
Speaker 3: Got?
Speaker 4: That whole news story was fantastic.
Speaker 3: I know, we'll get there.
Speaker 4: Whose bordello was it?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 3: I should know. I should have rewatched it this morning. No,
Speaker 3: what was it? Aunt Bulah, Bulla's bordello? Yes, Bulla's bordello.
Speaker 3: My next question is Bart's factory? Was item number?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Damn, I'm gonna say two.
Speaker 3: Seven fifty one, so I'm completely wrong.
Speaker 4: Uh. And my last question.
Speaker 3: For you is what is Lisa's iq ah? This was
Speaker 3: part of the trivia night that we went to recently.
Speaker 3: Is it one?
Speaker 4: You're after a good start?
Speaker 3: One forty seven, You're very close on fifty seven? One five,
Speaker 3: five six, damn? Because no one? And then I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I was like, when did they do that' like it's
Speaker 3: in Home's Enemy and I'm like, oh shit, I shouldn't go.
Speaker 4: Everyone's see the see the words there, that's that guy.
Speaker 3: I just write the questions. No, I just read the questions.
Speaker 3: Are we going to host any trivia ardwer We are?
Speaker 3: I think we shure we will.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, partly because it's fun and partly because you
Speaker 4: know when I get paid.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes we will. Indeed, it's coming up. Sorry, what
Speaker 3: a grifter I am. That's terrible. My final question is
Speaker 3: who was on mo slash Richard Nicks enemy list? Give
Speaker 3: me two of the names.
Speaker 4: Oh god, damn it.
Speaker 3: I just Jane Fonder, Daniel Shaw and Jack Anderson Jack Anderson.
Speaker 4: Okay, Jane Fond was on there.
Speaker 3: She did not like Nixon at all.
Speaker 4: No, she was. She was very political back in the day.
Speaker 4: Good and consider what a huge star she was. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's it's pretty ballsy. I mean it'd be someone like
Speaker 4: you know, Jay Law or Margot Robbie coming out now
Speaker 4: and basically saying if you mister Trump, yeah, but or
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift even I don't think she's going to do that.
Speaker 4: I just jacked up our se.
Speaker 3: Oh by the way, but Taylor, We're going to buy
Speaker 3: another other streaming services are.
Speaker 4: As our own personal pr We love you Taylor.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into her review showing why not
Speaker 3: give me have one more question? I know you want
Speaker 3: to do it?
Speaker 4: No, no, I don't I have one more That sort
Speaker 4: of an adjunct to the first question, which was, like,
Speaker 4: by Heleni's count, how many times should Homer have died by?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 3: Okay, three hundred and sixteen sixteen?
Speaker 4: I said to you, gotta keep all this in.
Speaker 3: He said, no, there's a good chance that he might
Speaker 3: have just to make me look cool, enjoy there's by
Speaker 3: I'll be a clip. Come back anytime then, Kevin, and
Speaker 3: you'll want to really watch it.
Speaker 4: I hope that's racking up numbers. That's that's my best
Speaker 4: clip today. You're you're the one who made it, but
Speaker 4: I mean I'm the stone forget you forgetting.
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Speaker 3: slash four finger discount. Right. So, the original edit of
Speaker 3: Homer's Enemy was May fourth, nineteen ninety seven. Sometimes the
Speaker 3: top three films at the US box office A bit
Speaker 3: of a hint there, what do you think they were?
Speaker 3: Number one was, oh, I think of the date nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety seven and the date May the fourth on nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety seven. What came out in ninety seven? It's the
Speaker 3: re release of st Star Wars Special Editions. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: number three was Empire Strikes Back. Number two was Dottie Brascot,
Speaker 3: and number one was a New Hope. So George had
Speaker 3: two of the top three boxes of films he'd already made,
Speaker 3: What a Grifter? What a Grifter? But you know, were
Speaker 3: loving for it. But I remember going to see those
Speaker 3: Star Wars Special editions. That was the first time I've
Speaker 3: obviously seen Star Wars in the cinema, and I remember
Speaker 3: seeing the jab of the Hut and going even as
Speaker 3: like a I would have been what eight going in Q?
Speaker 3: Pretty good? Yeah, I do remember that. I can remember
Speaker 3: watching the new stories for it, saying new scenes of
Speaker 3: Star Wars. It felt exciting at the time. Oh sure, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like check out this new scene of a pound
Speaker 3: solo and jab of the heart and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And then you're watching it and you're like, like when
Speaker 3: he's going up and over the tail in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: they haven't fixed.
Speaker 4: It still looks shit even the whole You know, Harn
Speaker 4: shot first thing. They need, no need. It was clear
Speaker 4: that greed I was going to kill him. Yah. Hahn
Speaker 4: was well truly justified and shooting first because Greta was
Speaker 4: about to shoot. Correct.
Speaker 3: Yes, he doesn't have the wait to be shot act
Speaker 3: before he has to shoot somebody.
Speaker 4: That's right, And you know it builds Harn's story as well.
Speaker 4: I mean he starts off he's a little bit Ruthlessly'm
Speaker 4: not sure percent sure if you can trust this guy
Speaker 4: by the end who comes back to help save the day. Chewey.
Speaker 4: That's right. Spoilers for Star Wars.
Speaker 3: That's what Ali got out of his charing.
Speaker 4: Did a fist pump I should hope so yeah, hopefully
Speaker 4: didn't hit anybody.
Speaker 3: The chop ball gave for this episode. I did not
Speaker 3: learn everything I need to know in kindergarten, which is
Speaker 3: reused from the episode You Only Moved Twice with Hank
Speaker 3: Hank Scorpio and the Causch gave bart Is green so
Speaker 3: have a read just the TV to fix his color
Speaker 3: and then slaps him on the back of the head
Speaker 3: to fix it all up. The episode kicks off with
Speaker 3: a Brocklyn news report, which, if true, means death for
Speaker 3: us was touched on.
Speaker 4: With Ed, one of my favorite sis.
Speaker 3: Yes, now it's Kent's People and there's the Franks Graham story.
Speaker 3: So we've already touched on with Ed, but the abandoned
Speaker 3: at by his parents at the age of four, and
Speaker 3: they film it. It's the drup you way and Frank's
Speaker 3: look like a four year old is going, oh well,
Speaker 3: this is my life.
Speaker 1: And now Cat's People. Tonight's inspiring story is about Frank Grimes,
Speaker 1: a thirty five year old Springfield height who's earned everything
Speaker 1: the hard way but never let adversity get him down.
Speaker 1: Abandoned by his parents at age four, Frank never got
Speaker 1: to go to school. He spent his childhood years as
Speaker 1: a delivery boy delivering toys to more fortunate children.
Speaker 4: Then on his.
Speaker 1: Eighteenth birthday, he was blown up in a silo explosion.
Speaker 1: During his long recuperation, he taught himself to hear and
Speaker 1: feel pain again. As the years passed, he used his
Speaker 1: few leisure moments each day to study science by mail.
Speaker 1: And last week Frank Grimes, the man who had to
Speaker 1: struggle for everything he ever got, received his correspondence school
Speaker 1: diploma in nuclear physics with a minor in determination.
Speaker 3: They're sitting up from the get go that life's not
Speaker 3: going to be easy for this guy.
Speaker 4: But nevertheless still going to power through because he believes
Speaker 4: that if you work hard and believe in yourself, you know,
Speaker 4: and commit, things will eventually go right for you.
Speaker 3: Clearly never watched the Simpsons because the lesson has never tried,
Speaker 3: has never tried. Yes, but mister Burns is watching this
Speaker 3: on the TV, and he realized that's the kind of
Speaker 3: man that he wants working for him, must have making
Speaker 3: his junior vice president.
Speaker 4: A scraper, a self made band like me.
Speaker 3: So he asked me this to bring him so he
Speaker 3: can make him the executive executive vice president. I'm not
Speaker 3: junior vice prist the executive vice president. The next day, Smithers
Speaker 3: brings in old Roaming and mister Burns has completely forgotten
Speaker 3: about him because he's now seen a story about a
Speaker 3: brave dog who pulled a todder from the path of
Speaker 3: a spinning car and push a criminal right in front
Speaker 3: of it. Find to me, you find this dog to
Speaker 3: make him my junior vice president. Well, that's the dog's
Speaker 3: junior vice president. Yes, and he introduces Frank Grimes, who
Speaker 3: put him somewhere out of the way and find that dogging.
Speaker 3: It feels so so over Grimy, as I said with ed,
Speaker 3: he didn't ask for this job. He got brought in
Speaker 3: and hidden.
Speaker 4: And it just turned out terribly for him. By the way,
Speaker 4: we're just as complicit. You'll call him grimy from the
Speaker 4: get go. It's not his name. It's not his nickname
Speaker 4: that he wants.
Speaker 3: I don't care what gives stretch.
Speaker 4: Who cares what this guy wants?
Speaker 3: So Homer is now spinning on his chair. Chair goes round, chair,
Speaker 3: goes round. Lenny and can ask if you're busy. Yep,
Speaker 3: I'm busy. And it suggests we should probably meet Frank Grimes.
Speaker 3: He's the next guy, new guy. I'm kind of dizzy.
Speaker 3: He should probably go home sick. Grimes is sorting his
Speaker 3: pencils out and they're watching him through the window. Walks
Speaker 3: it you knew. It's kind of like when you get
Speaker 3: into a cab busy.
Speaker 4: Night, mate, Always do it, Always do it.
Speaker 3: You have to do it. It's almost like they expect it.
Speaker 3: If you're disappointed if you don't ask.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes the drivers. Uber's Yeah, just.
Speaker 3: Story. Nick and I we went out for town and
Speaker 3: recently on the town, recent for a birthday.
Speaker 4: Cool story of his more it's.
Speaker 3: More yes, And we got into a cab, not a Nuba,
Speaker 3: and we got about five minutes down the rain just goes, yeah,
Speaker 3: my night's been good. Thanks, and we're like, oh, are
Speaker 3: we supposed to ask?
Speaker 4: I broke the social contract?
Speaker 3: Oh dear, I'm just joking, just joking, But for a
Speaker 3: brief I was like, oh's part of the transaction. But yeah,
Speaker 3: Lenny introduces Karl.
Speaker 4: I'm Lenny.
Speaker 3: He's Karl. I'm Lenny, just basically pointing out these guys
Speaker 3: have nothing to add to Frank Grimes's life at all.
Speaker 3: But Homer can't believe that he has pencils with his
Speaker 3: name on him. It's way too fancy for him. And
Speaker 3: Grimes tells and that any office supplies company can have
Speaker 3: you made from It just feels very Frank Grimes, doesn't
Speaker 3: it that he'd have his name on his own pencil?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 3: Do you think he does that because it's just makes
Speaker 3: him feel more important, or because he's just trying to
Speaker 3: say these are mine, don't touch.
Speaker 4: I think he's trying to sort of assert his personality
Speaker 4: and affirme his own identity is.
Speaker 3: Well, everything he does has he's labeled, like he's lunch
Speaker 3: got my name on it.
Speaker 4: His name. So much has been taken away from his
Speaker 4: life that he needs to get a bit predicted as
Speaker 4: you would be, wouldn't think so? Yeah, But then Homer asked,
Speaker 4: can I have a pencil? No? Can Lenny?
Speaker 3: No? Then he shows off his degree in nuclear physics,
Speaker 3: and Homer says that they've all got what except for Homer.
Speaker 3: I'm here to show up the day they opened the plant. Now,
Speaker 3: if this was said in a season twenty episode, I'd
Speaker 3: be annoyed by it, right, because it's clear that that's
Speaker 3: not how Homer got the joint of the power plant.
Speaker 3: If you've watched season one of the show. So in
Speaker 3: season eight, were people annoyed by this? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: So when people say, oh, no, they've changed the history,
Speaker 3: it's like they've been doing it since season, if not earlier.
Speaker 4: Continuity. Just roll with it. It, just just roll with it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, well listen, I'm sure we all have a
Speaker 10: lot of work to do.
Speaker 2: M Hey, do you make a great guy? So we'll
Speaker 2: give you a little tip. If you're turning the security
Speaker 2: camera around, you can sleep and no one will ever know.
Speaker 3: I don't think we're being paid to sleep.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're always trying to screw you.
Speaker 3: Margin's then trying to buy a personalized license plate. Marge's
Speaker 3: taking and tries Marjorie no Mitzi Mitsi's taken? Can you
Speaker 3: have nitzy y? Have you ever been a situation where
Speaker 3: it's like I've got to set off or something?
Speaker 4: Is this good enough? I guess no, sure, yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean not necessarily personalized number plates.
Speaker 3: Just were trying to make it like a user account.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, guy Davis has taken. What do you
Speaker 3: mean it's taking? Oh that's true, Yeah, I mean, what
Speaker 3: do you mean it's another Brendan Dando out there in
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 4: There are oftentimes it's like, well, if I can't have
Speaker 4: this email address or whatever, then figured I'm just learning.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, though Bard is bored by listening to this conversation.
Speaker 3: So he goes to listen to the tax seizure's auction
Speaker 3: and he bid bids a buck on a seven fifty one,
Speaker 3: which turns out to be a thirty five industry way,
Speaker 3: which is an abandoned factory. Yeah, it would be fucking awesome,
Speaker 3: wouldn't it be if you just owned a factory like
Speaker 3: it's yours. It just it just sit there making money
Speaker 3: because it's going to be worth money eventually, right sure,
Speaker 3: well if not, if.
Speaker 4: Not the buildings, then certainly, And that's what I'm to say, Yeah,
Speaker 4: how do you get this for a buck? Yeah? House?
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to an auction that wasn't there
Speaker 3: won an auction that wasn't eBay, Like you even gone
Speaker 3: to a house auction or.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to a couple of house auctions, have
Speaker 4: a bid on it. I think maybe before I bought
Speaker 4: my house, there was one or two that I did
Speaker 4: bid on. Yeah, but I realized, like, I think there's
Speaker 4: going to be out of my range. But yeah, I'll
Speaker 4: just say at the low end. Yeah, and made me
Speaker 4: feel all grown up.
Speaker 3: We went to check out a house viewing recently, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna have an auction at the end of it,
Speaker 3: and we were just like, I'll just check on out.
Speaker 3: We want to see what the viewers like from this
Speaker 3: area of Geelong. And then the auction started and nobody bid,
Speaker 3: and the homeowners just sort of stand there any bits,
Speaker 3: any bits, and sort of standing there, and I was
Speaker 3: sort of thinking, my do I start it? Do I
Speaker 3: start with a bid? And that I'm like, no, because
Speaker 3: then no one else might. You're lumbered with this dud.
Speaker 3: If you put your hand up and say you want
Speaker 3: to bid on something, do you legally have to then
Speaker 3: pay it?
Speaker 4: Wrong?
Speaker 3: You're just signing a contract. No, but.
Speaker 4: That's a really good question. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: You just run that where they make fake bids and
Speaker 3: then the guys run off. That's true, Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: was just sort of thinking, going, I know my house, Like, no,
Speaker 3: don't do that, because in your might.
Speaker 4: To buy a house, hands in your pockets.
Speaker 3: Homer is now eating Frank Grimes a special dietetic lunch.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, stretch, what's the good word? And Grimes takes
Speaker 3: a pretty wife. Someone ate my lunch, particularly if I'd
Speaker 3: labeled it, I'd be livid.
Speaker 4: Oh God, of course you would. I mean, look, I'm
Speaker 4: sorry to say it, Frank Grimes is kind of unlikable
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: We all have these people in our lives where you
Speaker 3: know they're right, but you still don't like that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: you have every right to be annoyed and pissed off,
Speaker 3: but it's.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah and every yeah, everything goes wrong from here
Speaker 4: due to Home Home. Home is not good in this
Speaker 4: I was doing anything wrong, but still you kin't of
Speaker 4: on homicide. Well I'm kind of on homicide anyway, because
Speaker 4: I find Grimes so yeah, straight up and down and
Speaker 4: kind of irritating as a result.
Speaker 3: As I was saying to add earlier, it's that when
Speaker 3: I was younger, I always saw Frank Grimes as the enemy.
Speaker 3: You know who episode is called Homer's Enemy. I saw
Speaker 3: it was the bad guy I had to mistreat Home
Speaker 3: like this bubblic because I loved Homer, and in the
Speaker 3: older I get them. Or I'm not saying I'm siding
Speaker 3: with Grimes. I guess you could say I understand, yes, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 3: when sometimes I watch this episode and I go, you
Speaker 3: know what, Frank Grymes is pretty much my spirit animal.
Speaker 3: Like I'm walk I walk around and people just bother me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, sure, you know, it's like not just I'm
Speaker 3: driving around now and I'm like, why are you crossing
Speaker 3: the street there? When when does a walk away ten
Speaker 3: minutes to her left? And I'm just like that shouldn't
Speaker 3: bother me. But like I'm just people are just dumb.
Speaker 3: Like all it takes is for you to take the
Speaker 3: step at the wrong time, you're gonna get run over.
Speaker 3: You ruin your family's lives. You've ruined, like your life's over.
Speaker 3: It's like there's lights there for a reason, Like just
Speaker 3: little ruin my day. Like people are just dumb, Like
Speaker 3: why are people so dumb? The world is just dumb?
Speaker 4: I got no reply to it. Do you think the
Speaker 4: world is dumb? Well? Bit today? Sometimes you just wake young.
Speaker 4: Oh God, another day of that ship.
Speaker 3: But Frank Grimes says, you know, Horoma, with the trouble
Speaker 3: learning your name, the least you can do is learn mine. Okay,
Speaker 3: gry And then he realizes he's eating the lunch, gives
Speaker 3: it back, takes a few more bites, gives it back
Speaker 3: to him, just throws it into the bin, frustrating and
Speaker 3: Homer riches for it. See this this is classic SIPs
Speaker 3: is where it's like it could have He throws it
Speaker 3: in the bin, reaching for it. Is this is this
Speaker 3: that little button? This is what's what? Wasn't it?
Speaker 4: I believe?
Speaker 10: So?
Speaker 3: Yeah, He then finds it was because he's the one
Speaker 3: that said that grummy was asking for it. Then he
Speaker 3: finds his pencils or chewed up and discovers homing with them,
Speaker 3: just cleaning out his ears and stabs when an anger
Speaker 3: and yeah, I'd be furious as well. But as then
Speaker 3: checking out the warehouse, it's filthy and it's all mine.
Speaker 3: He throws the screw to see how far. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like the test of how deep a hole is,
Speaker 3: isn't it? Every second is a meter or something? Is
Speaker 3: that how it works? Something along those lines.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm being tested today. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 4: of things, like I wouldn't know about an I wouldn't
Speaker 4: know about holes. We got good.
Speaker 3: You're me both, brother. So then he gets on a
Speaker 3: chair with the fire extemas as to keep watching this,
Speaker 3: I always just thought does this work? And man, it
Speaker 3: was like a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: Ah. I'm always terrified of like using a extinguished in
Speaker 4: any way.
Speaker 3: I just seemed I had to use it. When the
Speaker 3: barbieet got on fire, I had no idea what I
Speaker 3: was doing. I was like, I hope this works. This
Speaker 3: is good, Like everybody, well, the house is silly, so
Speaker 3: I'm gooding? Did yeah? I and the fence, Yeah that
Speaker 3: was That was lucky that day. But when bart is
Speaker 3: just walking around the factory here, it's just kind of
Speaker 3: a sad memory. But my dad used to work a
Speaker 3: candy footwear, you know, candy footwear. And some of my
Speaker 3: favorite memories as a kid I going to the factory
Speaker 3: with Dad and just everyone was uncle, Uncle, George, Auntie.
Speaker 3: He's got a slav and there's all these you know,
Speaker 3: all my uncles, and Auntie says all the works. I'd
Speaker 3: walk around the factory wait, and I say out the window.
Speaker 3: Dad be like, right, just ten minutes and come back,
Speaker 3: and he'd be sitting in his office. I'd be walking
Speaker 3: around his factory, just this little kid. Hey, but to day,
Speaker 3: don't I sit down and help make shoes and whatnot?
Speaker 3: And then it closed down. I remember Dad went there
Speaker 3: yet text some from his office. We walked in and
Speaker 3: it was just empty. I remember walking and going, ah,
Speaker 3: it's like it's really gone.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and I'd use this giant line all the
Speaker 4: time as a joke, but yeah, we used to make things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the same as what. I went to Ford
Speaker 3: after down because we had to do the proper shutdown,
Speaker 3: and I walked in, I was like, oh, the press
Speaker 3: machines are gone. Yeah, it's empty. Oh it really is finished.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And driving past, you know the full factory now,
Speaker 4: yeah you used to. I mean it's being used for
Speaker 4: something or I don't know, turn.
Speaker 3: It into an industrial area whatever. But it's sad.
Speaker 4: It's this huge car park that used to, you know,
Speaker 4: be full of cars and people who would go work there,
Speaker 4: and now it's just like, oh my god, look at
Speaker 4: all this space. Yeah, I've got these jobs that aren't
Speaker 4: there anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I remember walking to Candy Foot where and not
Speaker 3: knowing nothing's going to be in there, walking in and.
Speaker 4: Going oh yeah, oh it's all gone. It's not to
Speaker 4: be too milder. It's almost like looking at the dead body.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it was really sad. And I remember
Speaker 3: seeing Dad sort of like tear up that day because
Speaker 3: it's sort of like the reality hit him as well,
Speaker 3: because he was like I think he knew it was
Speaker 3: going to be that way. But he's like, ah, yeah, anyway,
Speaker 3: it for like thirty years home now and enters Grimy's
Speaker 3: office being annoying. I've always loved this is one of
Speaker 3: my favorites where we're just like it just feels like, damn.
Speaker 3: It was the same prombing, just big, a fucking nuisance.
Speaker 4: Everything everything he does is just designed to frustrate. It's
Speaker 4: incredibly annoying.
Speaker 10: Joh, how's it going, Gray, I'd appreciate it if you'd
Speaker 10: stay out of my office.
Speaker 2: Simpson, in which I had a nickel for every time
Speaker 2: I heard Dad take me up to the ball game.
Speaker 2: Take me to the ball Oh, what's do Grimy Simpson?
Speaker 4: You got a five thirteen?
Speaker 10: Now a five thirteen in your procedures manual, A five thirteen?
Speaker 4: Look at your control panel? Oh a five thirty.
Speaker 2: I'll handle it him, I got it.
Speaker 3: Bot is now in his office. If you can call
Speaker 3: it that, Abby's warehouse warehouse factory, factory, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And he sees Millhouse walk past the window and obviously
Speaker 3: him a job. I'm a busy man. You want a
Speaker 3: job or not. There's not really much to this speed plot.
Speaker 3: Like rewatching this episode, I remember being more predominant in
Speaker 3: the episode. There's not much to it, but it's always
Speaker 3: just been one of my favorite side plods because it's
Speaker 3: just so simple. Bits are so interesting, like bar owns
Speaker 3: a factory, and I think millhouse work there, Like I
Speaker 3: think as a keep watching going, it'd be so cool.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like when you get your first house
Speaker 3: with a mate and you sort of just oh, and
Speaker 3: has no parents around his house, do what I want. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just like having their own factory to hang it,
Speaker 3: having a factory to hang out. But then Homer is
Speaker 3: eating like a pig. It's more like a duck. Yeah,
Speaker 3: things tend to ch they tend to chew. Yes, grumming
Speaker 3: and winds about him slipping in a suit, and Lenny
Speaker 3: and Color like, well, what's the problem. We have no
Speaker 3: issue with Homer? Yeah, three, Well we have three bus
Speaker 3: at lunch. They make anybody sleepy. And they explain that
Speaker 3: he's in charge about safety. That man, he's in charge
Speaker 3: about safety. This is pretty much sums up my life
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. It's best enough to think
Speaker 3: about it. Sometimes when the kids you hear like a
Speaker 3: bang or the kids are doing something, it's like it's
Speaker 3: best to knowledge. Just let it go. You don't screaming,
Speaker 3: It's all right, Yes, if they're alive, just just go
Speaker 3: with it. Have you been caught sleeping at work in
Speaker 3: any way?
Speaker 4: No. We used a nap at Ford all.
Speaker 3: The time, really, especially on afternoon shift. We'll be like
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock and sometimes we work over time, maybe like
Speaker 3: three in the morning. We've been there since like four,
Speaker 3: and there's mattresses there and we just have a nap,
Speaker 3: like go half an hour, go a kip, and like.
Speaker 4: They just just cover each other. That's nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a real I said, Nick. It's been
Speaker 3: nearly ten years since four clothes. But I look back
Speaker 3: and I'm like, we had a pretty good there. If
Speaker 3: we've got to thirty degrees, we got to stop working
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: Is got to have a nap if it got yeah wow.
Speaker 3: Well not legally, we're not supposed to it had naps,
Speaker 3: but just but the supervisor didn't care, like Gary no
Speaker 3: longer with us rest in peace absolute, letting him just like, yeah.
Speaker 4: I have a rest and now Gary's resting.
Speaker 3: Because he basically he was that guy who he used
Speaker 3: to the used to say, when you become a supervisor,
Speaker 3: become one of the boys right then the boys club,
Speaker 3: they used to call it a ford, and he didn't
Speaker 3: want to be part of the boys cut. He'd eat
Speaker 3: because when guys become supervisors eat the supervisor's office and
Speaker 3: he'd still eat with us.
Speaker 4: So he was, well, he was one of the boys,
Speaker 4: but he was one of the boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he started just a worker and then when
Speaker 3: he got mad supervisor, he still stayed. He hung out
Speaker 3: with us, right, but then they asked him to night
Speaker 3: shift because he was just not He was always questioning
Speaker 3: what their decisions and same minute to do this on
Speaker 3: day shift, so they put him on night shift. So
Speaker 3: when he's on night was like, ah, you a fuck.
Speaker 3: As long as its long we make enough parts, who cares.
Speaker 4: That's a good philosophy. As long as her part gets made.
Speaker 3: He used to say, as long as youre not doing
Speaker 3: anything dangerous and you get the man that the work
Speaker 3: done he is supposed to get done, only a funk
Speaker 3: what you do. It's like, well, that's how you should
Speaker 3: approach it, right absolutely, as if you're getting ship done
Speaker 3: and you're not hurting anybody, go for it wouldn't be great.
Speaker 3: Everybody filled that way. Then Homer in the lunch room
Speaker 3: and he almost drinks acid and Grammy saves him, and
Speaker 3: that would have been stupid. This is the one point
Speaker 3: where I thought home it was dumbed down a little
Speaker 3: bit too much. Oh, my face would have been red.
Speaker 3: I was like, ah, but it sets up Frank Grime's
Speaker 3: going it's the laughing room beside, You're gonna be dead.
Speaker 3: And he just stares blankly at him as mister Burns
Speaker 3: walks past with the junior vice president dog. Great call
Speaker 3: back there, and Homer says, who did this? He did it?
Speaker 3: And he's not lying. Well, that's true, Grammy did do it,
Speaker 3: and Burns braces him. How dare you destroy my valuable
Speaker 3: wall and spill my precious acid? No priceless accident. You
Speaker 3: think you're gonna get away with it? And against you're
Speaker 3: going to give one more chance at a reduced salary,
Speaker 3: and the dog barks in. That's the kick of the
Speaker 3: dog barking at him. Grimmy then goes to see Homer
Speaker 3: and says, I hate you, or just stay away from you,
Speaker 3: because they're enemies.
Speaker 4: Me, the most beloved man in Springfield.
Speaker 3: What do I have to do anything? Grammy can't even
Speaker 3: respond Homer's now sad is that most you can't believe
Speaker 3: he has an enemy, and most of even I have no,
Speaker 3: I won't have it. There's no way you have enemies.
Speaker 3: And he shows me his Listen, there's troops, Jane Fonder,
Speaker 3: Daniel show Jack Anderson, and Barney points out as Nixon.
Speaker 3: So then he adds Barney's name to it as well.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had an enemy? I'm sure I Have
Speaker 3: you ever had someone in your life where you don't
Speaker 3: quite understand why they don't like it? There was a
Speaker 3: kid of schools. There was Richard right, and he just
Speaker 3: hated me. And I never really associated with him, and
Speaker 3: like we were friends in the early years, and then
Speaker 3: he just decided he hated me. And I've never still
Speaker 3: did this day. I've ever meet him again and see me,
Speaker 3: I'd be like.
Speaker 4: Why did you hate me? What was it that I
Speaker 4: did that just triggered you? He just he hated me.
Speaker 3: And we had the same friendship circle. So we still
Speaker 3: have to hang out like every lunch, but he wanted
Speaker 3: nothing to do with me, and he never explained why
Speaker 3: he just hated me.
Speaker 4: It's hard to understand. There was a guy named Andrew
Speaker 4: when I was at Uni. I think his sister was
Speaker 4: going out with my good friend, so our paths would
Speaker 4: sort of occasionally cross and one I were out of
Speaker 4: this party, and yeah, I think we were all fairly drunk.
Speaker 4: But he just sort of boiled me up against the
Speaker 4: wall and was.
Speaker 3: Really get told this story. Yeah, and do you think
Speaker 3: you're talking to his girls? No, that was a different time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that guy haded me as well.
Speaker 4: I don't know what. Yeah, but this guy was like
Speaker 4: really getting ready to throw down. And I was genuinely
Speaker 4: confused because I mean I didn't like the guy, but
Speaker 4: I didn't dislike the guy either, But for some reason,
Speaker 4: he just really took of fans. Yeah. Maybe it was
Speaker 4: just because so charming and handsome.
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Speaker 3: says he should invite him for dinner, get him comfortable,
Speaker 3: and then my mo member is bam, you'll fog in
Speaker 3: the eye, and Home he considers trying without the fog
Speaker 3: one was always the first time. It's time for dinner.
Speaker 3: Home is very nervous because he wants us to go
Speaker 3: really really well, wants to go perfect. Sure, tells everyone
Speaker 3: to be perfect, just be perfect, you perfect, you perfect
Speaker 3: maybe perfect. Marche has only five lobsters and she's worried
Speaker 3: that she won't have enough if he brings a guest
Speaker 3: and hasn't actually told him that it's dinner. It's like wry,
Speaker 3: he doesn't know it's He's not going to bring anybody.
Speaker 3: And the hilarious part about this is that I don't
Speaker 3: think Home even realizes why he wants to be friends
Speaker 3: with Frank Grimes. He's just not used to someone, just
Speaker 3: like I don't like him as he's like, he doesn't
Speaker 3: know how to handle it. He's just like this.
Speaker 4: He doesn't want a friend, but he doesn't want an enemy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And I think that none of us want enemies.
Speaker 3: But Grimey arrives to Cassida, Simpsons and he looks all disheveled.
Speaker 3: He's got the briefcase or shit coming out of it everywhere,
Speaker 3: and Home introduces the family. Lisa got a one fifty
Speaker 3: six IQ bar, owns a factory downtown. But Grimes he
Speaker 3: can't get over the size of Homer's house.
Speaker 4: Good heavens, this is a palace. How in the rook
Speaker 4: can you afford to live in a house like this?
Speaker 2: Simpson, Oh, don't ask me out of your acoudomy work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but look at the size of this place.
Speaker 10: I live in a single room above a bowling alley
Speaker 10: and below another bowling alley.
Speaker 2: WHOA, I'm sorry, isn't that Yeah? That's me all right?
Speaker 2: And a guy standing next to me is President Gerald Ford.
Speaker 2: And this is when I was on tour with the
Speaker 2: Smashing Pumpkins. Oh, and here's a picture of me in
Speaker 2: outer space.
Speaker 4: You went in outer space?
Speaker 2: You sure you've never been? Would you like to see
Speaker 2: my Grammy award?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 10: I wouldn't draw. I've had to work hard every day
Speaker 10: of my life. And what do I have to show
Speaker 10: for it? This briefcase and this haircut? And what do
Speaker 10: you have to show for your lifetime of sloth and ignorance?
Speaker 10: What everything, A dream house, two cars, a beautiful wife,
Speaker 10: sun new owns, a factory, fancy clothes and lobsters for dinner.
Speaker 4: And do you deserve any of it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: What are you saying? Saying?
Speaker 3: You're what's wrong with America? Simpson?
Speaker 4: You coast through life, You do.
Speaker 10: As little as possible, and you leap your decent, hardworking
Speaker 10: people like me. If you lived in any other country
Speaker 10: in the world, you'd have starved to death long ago.
Speaker 11: He's got you there, Dad.
Speaker 4: You're a fraud, a total fraud. It's nice meeting you.
Speaker 3: I feel like being called a fraud. Is that would
Speaker 3: cut you deep?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. You're a fraud. A name would hurt
Speaker 3: you less. I think you're a dickhead. Now you're a fraud.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh shit, I'm found out.
Speaker 3: He's got your there, Dad. This week a little montage
Speaker 3: of button Millhouse hanging out at the factory. They're throwing
Speaker 3: machines or some kind like cashridges or something into the
Speaker 3: industrial waste or not accounting machines, candy machines, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the're throwing and it melts into the in the Wasiste
Speaker 3: Millhouse is cleaning baptizing to get to work. What is
Speaker 3: wacky shad? Well?
Speaker 4: Have you seen the motion menture? Grease? I have call
Speaker 4: it the end that they have the and they have
Speaker 4: a bit in the Wacky Shop, which is basically just
Speaker 4: a rocking house fun house. So they called the Wacky Show.
Speaker 3: You're the one that I want? Is that they sing
Speaker 3: that one through? Yeah? Yeah, we just call that funhouse here,
Speaker 3: I I believe. So yeah, not much fun about it,
Speaker 3: but then takes away the warning signs solving problem yep,
Speaker 3: longer scared of it, has longer scared of being hurt.
Speaker 3: Margin notices that Homer hasn't left for work. You're sitting
Speaker 3: in the car in the driveway.
Speaker 4: Why would you?
Speaker 3: What's wrong? Car won't start? Don't feel well. I am
Speaker 3: at work, Homer?
Speaker 11: Homer, why aren't you at work?
Speaker 2: The car won't start. I don't feel very good today.
Speaker 2: I am at work.
Speaker 11: You're afraid to go to work because Frank Grimes will
Speaker 11: be there, aren't you?
Speaker 2: Which is crazy talk. You're crazy, Marge. You're off your road.
Speaker 11: You'll have to face him sometime, and when you do,
Speaker 11: I'm sure he'll be justice anxious to make up as
Speaker 11: you are.
Speaker 2: No, he won't. He hates me.
Speaker 11: He doesn't hate you, He just feels insecure because you're
Speaker 11: getting through life so easily and it's been so difficult
Speaker 11: for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's his problem. He's a nut.
Speaker 2: It's not about me being lazy, it's about him being
Speaker 2: a crazy nut.
Speaker 11: Well maybe, but I'll bet he would be less crazy
Speaker 11: if you are just a little more professional in your work,
Speaker 11: just a little more, then he won't have any reason
Speaker 11: to resent you.
Speaker 2: I'll do it to professionalism.
Speaker 3: Do you think they're seeing him drive off the work
Speaker 3: was a bit much?
Speaker 4: Yet?
Speaker 3: Do you think he couldness been fun to professionalism? But
Speaker 3: the drinking and then driving off, Look, it's a lot
Speaker 3: lest episodes where they're really doubling down.
Speaker 4: Aren't They really are putting other hat on a hat.
Speaker 4: But look, I don't mind it. It's not a deal breaker. Nah.
Speaker 3: Now at work and Homer is eating donuts with a
Speaker 3: knife and fork, trying to be all professional with a
Speaker 3: mister good employee posted up in his war. He tries
Speaker 3: to be nice to Frank Grimes and highlight that he's
Speaker 3: making an effort, but the danger side thing goes off.
Speaker 3: Frank Grimes is like, what an idiot?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 3: Kind of feel sorry for homing here because like he
Speaker 3: at least he's trying.
Speaker 4: That's true. It'd be nice for Grimey to meet him, like, well,
Speaker 4: Homer's going to make three quarters of the effort, and
Speaker 4: grime He's going to make like a quarter.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is with Homer is no one's ever
Speaker 3: called him out for this behavior. Correct, he doesn't understand
Speaker 3: what he's done is being is long unprofessional. So now
Speaker 3: he is trying to at least make an effort. Frank
Speaker 3: Grimes is like, nah, I screwed this guy and this
Speaker 3: as you're saying, that's where Frank Grihmes I think becomes
Speaker 3: unlikable because even when this guy is trying, you won't
Speaker 3: give him a chance. Correct car Then questions like what's
Speaker 3: your problem? Grimy, Like what what's what's what's the big deal?
Speaker 4: As I said, Yeah, that's why they put a razors
Speaker 4: on pencils. Yeah, that's a great line.
Speaker 3: Access of double dach year meltdown's have tripled. Well, you
Speaker 3: ever be fired or disciplined, as he said, everyone makes mistakes.
Speaker 3: That's why they put raislin pencil That's a good philosophy
Speaker 3: to lift by, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they say give him a break, and then Frank
Speaker 3: Grimes says, I would die happy man if I approved
Speaker 3: to you, or that Homer has the intelligence of a
Speaker 3: six year old, and they just fob him off like whatever, mate,
Speaker 3: you just.
Speaker 4: Been bitter.
Speaker 3: Grummy then sees the poster for the children's model building
Speaker 3: contest and he cuts out all the references to it
Speaker 3: being for children for kids, cuts out the kid, leaves
Speaker 3: it on Homer's desk. There's much chance to show this
Speaker 3: much chance to everyone. How professional I am? He tells, uh,
Speaker 3: this week the Lenny photo. They have a great summer,
Speaker 3: so he tells Lenny's and he's gone home for work
Speaker 3: to work on the contest. And then Grummy last until
Speaker 3: he sees home smashing into his car. Thin guess at
Speaker 3: least Frank Grimes is the kick ass parking spot.
Speaker 4: A good point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, reduced salary, but good park margin less. Then he
Speaker 3: sounds from the basement. It says, Genie at work, sign
Speaker 3: on the door margin less. You're concerned out what's going
Speaker 3: on down there. March's stop bother. It's high tech stuff.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't understand. March. You have anylwowre Macaroni and glor
Speaker 3: on sparkles. Millhouse is now smashing a door and Bart
Speaker 3: rings the horn. Quittindme durmer those days quittin time? Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: straight at the door.
Speaker 4: Did you ever stick around afterwards? Well? Yeah, sometimes I know.
Speaker 4: I guess I feel home esque sometimes in like I
Speaker 4: probably haven't put one hundred percent in during the during
Speaker 4: the nine to five, but if I give him the
Speaker 4: next like half hour at the end, I'm like, good.
Speaker 3: On you, creble all the days working to half an hour.
Speaker 4: You're paying me for this roe.
Speaker 3: Bart then says he needs someone to guard the place overnight,
Speaker 3: so he makes meelhouse the night watchmen. He gives him
Speaker 3: a nickel for the coffee machine, and the brat falls down.
Speaker 11: So this is my life.
Speaker 4: At least I've done better than dad.
Speaker 3: This might be the most relatable Millhouse moment of all
Speaker 3: time my life. It's I think we've had a point
Speaker 3: in our lives where we've just gone so this is
Speaker 3: our life. This is my life.
Speaker 4: But then you have the opportunity to change it. I
Speaker 4: feel like you do.
Speaker 3: Yes, at least I've done better than dad.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 3: It's so good that Bart arrives next morning and the
Speaker 3: factory has fallen over I told you just watching them
Speaker 3: watch the factory I did first started falling over, then
Speaker 3: it fell over, and all the rats then go to
Speaker 3: most everybody touk your pants into yourself. That's now it's
Speaker 3: time for the model contest and these bold new ideas,
Speaker 3: these tiny tykes unveiled for us today, could make thousands
Speaker 3: of jobs like yours obsolete. It's a little slight, but
Speaker 3: it's true, man, it's true. Don't remind me Ralph now
Speaker 3: has a male. Basically, it's just a Melbouy Stacy dream house,
Speaker 3: it is, and it's just he's drawing.
Speaker 4: Something to melow stay.
Speaker 3: Yes, pretty good. So not a fan of the hot
Speaker 3: tub and the media room. What is supposed to be
Speaker 3: a power plant? Villas Bordella. As you said, who is Ambula?
Speaker 4: I think it's just a fun name to say.
Speaker 3: It sounds like, yeah, I did look it up, I thought.
Speaker 3: But now Ralphie, then Ralphi, get up the stage, sweetheart.
Speaker 3: Then it's for Martin who has the fancy wanted to
Speaker 3: be touched on earlier. That controls the room and power
Speaker 3: in the room.
Speaker 4: It's in this room right now, too cold, sterile, where's
Speaker 4: the heart you lose?
Speaker 3: Get off my property? When Homie comes out and it's
Speaker 3: just a power plant, It's just a Frank mocksman looks
Speaker 3: in a contest for kids, makes us miss the contest.
Speaker 3: Then Burns ask him to explain it, young man, explain this,
Speaker 3: young man? What does that explain?
Speaker 10: His?
Speaker 3: An idiot shut up of added fins to lower winter resistance.
Speaker 3: And I love this. And I thought this racing strip
Speaker 3: was pretty sharp.
Speaker 4: He's not wrong.
Speaker 3: It is pretty short. You agreed, you win, You did it,
Speaker 3: Homer and Frank Grom's like it was a goodness for children. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I haven't beat their brains. They were like, yeah, will whoma.
Speaker 3: And this is where Frank Grimes just loses his mind,
Speaker 3: has the ultimate breakdown that we all remember. Are you okay?
Speaker 4: I'm better that I can?
Speaker 3: You wish and they get their classes. I don't need
Speaker 3: safety gloves because I'm Homer Simpson and shocks himself cut
Speaker 3: to his funeral Frank Grimes, or Grimy as he preferred to,
Speaker 3: although Frank's agonizing struggle through life was agonizingly cut short.
Speaker 3: I was asleep. Change of channel March and that's how Homer.
Speaker 3: The change of channel March is I know a touch
Speaker 3: up with that. I can't can't remember, but that's the
Speaker 3: moment for me that I remember watching this with my dad,
Speaker 3: my dad bursting out and laughter. It's just like that
Speaker 3: was just such a good mona. Yes, that is the
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