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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's continue how Bill cunning had the Great America.

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<v Speaker 1>And this Tuesday afternoon, the tri State getting ready for

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose celebration tomorrow night. The game has sold out

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand strong. There made me some SRO tickets available,

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<v Speaker 1>but I put on my ex account a photo or

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<v Speaker 1>two of me and Pete back in the glory days

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<v Speaker 1>for the Corps all Stars, and rest in Pete, Rest

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<v Speaker 1>in peace. Pete Rose is all I can say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he's in the arms of God Almighty.

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<v Speaker 1>I pray he is. And he made many more positive

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<v Speaker 1>contributions to our great country, in our great city the

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<v Speaker 1>negative ones, and he belongs at least in the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame, maybe more, but until then you may recall.

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<v Speaker 1>April the twenty third, there was effort by city council

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<v Speaker 1>to continue the plan development to come fundamentally change Hyde

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<v Speaker 1>Park Square and it's something the residents don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>And the vote was seven to two.

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<v Speaker 1>There were two council members, Jan Michelle Kearney and Scottie

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson who said no, it's too big, but the other

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<v Speaker 1>seven fell in line with what the mayor wanted and

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<v Speaker 1>they voted yes to allow these developments. To go forward

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<v Speaker 1>north of one hundred million dollars, and at that time

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<v Speaker 1>I had on John Zinzer part of the group saved

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<v Speaker 1>the Hyde Park Square a little bit, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy with the vote, shall we say? The council sessions

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<v Speaker 1>went on for hours and hours and they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ignored what the people wanted. And of course I would

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<v Speaker 1>say this and John Zinzer, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to relate to you a little story

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<v Speaker 1>that happened a week or two later about the vote

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<v Speaker 1>and what it is, John, is that I was told

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<v Speaker 1>by a knowledgeable political type and city council that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>look what happened when f to have peerival ran in

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<v Speaker 1>the primary to stay as the mayor. He got eighty

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<v Speaker 1>two percent of the vote, and so he said, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess Hyde Park Square is not that too important. So

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, respond to that, and then we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time a little bit. But is there a

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<v Speaker 1>sense the citizens are outraged but it has no pack

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<v Speaker 1>politically because this political guide told me, look, aftav just

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<v Speaker 1>got eighty two percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you respond to that? Before we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Thanks Bo, I'm glad to be here with you again,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm happy to go straight to that. We chose

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<v Speaker 3>not to try to make an expression via the primary.

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<v Speaker 3>We decided we were not going to try to make

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<v Speaker 3>a political noise in the primary, especially in the mayoral race.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't just a mayoral problem, although I don't happen

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<v Speaker 3>to agree with how he's handled this. This is both

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<v Speaker 3>a city council problem, and this is actually a systems

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<v Speaker 3>problem as well. Our planning process, our development process. All

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<v Speaker 3>of these need attention. But on top of all of that,

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<v Speaker 3>what you and I have talked about most and what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really glad to be back here to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>again today, is the role of citizen voice. I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 3>where I am, I'm looking at City Hall, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you very simply, City Hall has stopped listening

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<v Speaker 3>to the voice of citizens and especially neighborhood council and

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<v Speaker 3>community councils. A lot of people, a lot of council

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<v Speaker 3>members gave us some time and did some listening, but

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<v Speaker 3>they absolutely didn't do any hearing. And that's what this

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<v Speaker 3>PD issue has really become about. It is about do

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<v Speaker 3>citizens do neighborhood councils do community councils get a say

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<v Speaker 3>in what happens in their neighborhoods around development. Hyde Park

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<v Speaker 3>Squares stood up and said, we want voice in this.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't hear us in the whole process. And it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't just on the twenty third of April, goes all

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<v Speaker 3>the way back to January. More than seven hundred emails

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<v Speaker 3>were sent to Planning Committee staff. More than sixty people

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<v Speaker 3>spoke against it, about four spoke to it. Then again

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<v Speaker 3>in March it happens in the Planning Commission meeting itself,

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<v Speaker 3>then again the day before the twenty third, on the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty second, in the Equitable Growth and Housing Commission Committee meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>Then in front of City Council, the voice was overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 3>the hearing was underwhelming. We're putting it on the ballot

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<v Speaker 3>now to show that citizen's voice and citizen issue still matters,

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<v Speaker 3>and we need the help of people who listen to you,

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<v Speaker 3>Bill to make sure we get that ballot measure on

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<v Speaker 3>the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Jun Zenzer.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, their attitude is know your role, John and

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<v Speaker 1>shut your mouth. But on this issue, just explain in

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<v Speaker 1>general what the general plan is. I've been to Hyde

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<v Speaker 1>Park Square. I was there a few days ago, went

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<v Speaker 1>to Zip's, got a cheeseburger, went at Graters and I

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<v Speaker 1>got me a ice cream, sat on a bench with

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<v Speaker 1>the family.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 2>Just explain in general, what did the city approve.

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<v Speaker 3>What the city approved, effectively, was a container ship dropped

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<v Speaker 3>in on the south side of Hyde Park Square. They

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<v Speaker 3>are talking about something about four hundred feet long upwards

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<v Speaker 3>of potentially eighty five even ninety three feet high at

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<v Speaker 3>certain dimensions, stretching from edwards to Michigan Avenue below Eree.

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<v Speaker 3>It will be the biggest thing by far in that

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<v Speaker 3>entire area, and it will absolutely change the character and

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<v Speaker 3>the tenor of Hyde Park Square. I hear you, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really glad you were there for your ice cream cone,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is something you hear over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>People have memories, people have feeling about the square and

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<v Speaker 3>the fact Sunday such a beautiful day hyde Park Farmers Market,

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of people. I'm not kidding, incredible positive energy and feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you that won't be the same if this

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<v Speaker 3>gets built. And the fact of the matter is, if

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<v Speaker 3>we can get the help of the people we need

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<v Speaker 3>signing to get this on the ballot. I have every faith.

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<v Speaker 3>Once this is on the ballot, we win and this

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't get built. But this again isn't about just Hyde

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<v Speaker 3>Park Square. This is a city wide issue about citizen

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<v Speaker 3>voice mattering. All.

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<v Speaker 2>Let let's talk about what's in the containership.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain the parking garage, underground parking garage, this huge building.

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<v Speaker 1>Explained what's in the containership, and tell the American people

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<v Speaker 1>about this underground parking.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this image. I'm so glad you grabbed onto that.

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<v Speaker 3>What they said they want to put on board this

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<v Speaker 3>container ship one hundred and twenty approximately apartments ranging from

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<v Speaker 3>studios to up two or three bedrooms. They also want

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<v Speaker 3>to put in a ninety room hotel. They keep using

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<v Speaker 3>a word to define it. They keep saying boutique. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think of ninety as boutique. That's a little bit big.

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<v Speaker 3>They also, therefore, to manage this, they want to put

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<v Speaker 3>in three stories underground in a place that used to

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<v Speaker 3>be a lake parking. This to me doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 3>a great idea. All of this city council kept saying, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about the housing. It's about the housing. It's about

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<v Speaker 3>the housing. Then why are you approving a hotel? The

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<v Speaker 3>thing that the city council could have done was that

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<v Speaker 3>they could have said, no, you don't get the PD.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they actually passed. The PD is a development

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<v Speaker 3>to rule. It's called plan development. It removes many of

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<v Speaker 3>the obstacles that the developers normally have to pass through,

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<v Speaker 3>so citizens get to say it makes it easier for

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<v Speaker 3>a developer to do some And here's our quick little

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<v Speaker 3>piece that I hope other people will pick up on.

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<v Speaker 3>A year ago, the rule required two acres. When they

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<v Speaker 3>passed connected communities, they shrink the size from two acres

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<v Speaker 3>to one point five acres to do a plan development.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what this project is on one point seven to

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<v Speaker 3>eight acres. It's almost as if they custom changed the

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<v Speaker 3>rule for this development. I understand other places are now

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<v Speaker 3>that's being used for, but the timing on that is

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<v Speaker 3>really exceptional.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about affordable housing. Affordable housing to me is

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<v Speaker 1>a rent of between eight hundred and maybe fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>a month. The rule of thumb is you spent about

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<v Speaker 1>one third of your disposable income for housing. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>general rule. I can't imagine these apartments in Hyde Park

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<v Speaker 1>at a cost overall of over one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>will have quote affordable rents, and so you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the rent structure, but I imagine they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>quite high.

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<v Speaker 3>They have given the city and the public no real

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<v Speaker 3>hard numbers about their business plan about where the rents

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<v Speaker 3>will come out. They said, we have to wait for

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<v Speaker 3>the PD. If we get the PD, we'll know more.

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<v Speaker 3>They got the PD, they still haven't released that information.

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<v Speaker 3>That's another one of my problems that city council is

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<v Speaker 3>voting on something that's a concept, and then when they

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<v Speaker 3>vote on the concept, they actually free the developer to

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever they want. Beyond the concept. We have no

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<v Speaker 3>idea what the rents will be. They're building that's closest

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<v Speaker 3>to this on Watson Way. Those rents start at three thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred dollars. Now, I don't know if that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the same, but three thousand, eight hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>a month is not affordable housing. I don't belie leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Other than the studios, any of these apartments might come

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<v Speaker 3>in anywhere near the kind of number you just shared.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight hundred to fifteen hundred my guess, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a guest because they haven't shared anything with us. They'll

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<v Speaker 3>have to start in the mid twos at the lowest.

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<v Speaker 3>More likely they'll be starting, especially for something with a

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<v Speaker 3>bedroom or two even higher than that. But again, the

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<v Speaker 3>building that they've built closest, called the Ilia, starts at

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<v Speaker 3>thirty eight hundred and there used to be buildings. There

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<v Speaker 3>are buildings still on Hyde Park Square with vacant apartments

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<v Speaker 3>for a fraction of that. Yet city council is saying

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<v Speaker 3>we need housing, we need housing, we need housing. Scotty

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson was amazing, he said. Jim Selivan Kearney and he

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<v Speaker 3>were the two champions here. Scotty said, I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 3>city council hiding behind we need housing and then doing

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<v Speaker 3>projects like this, doing things that don't bring us any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of affordable housing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my simple Deer Park, matthe if you spend about

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<v Speaker 1>four one thousand dollars a month for a one bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>or a two bedroom might be five thousand a month,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to have about sixteen thousand dollars net a

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<v Speaker 1>month in disposable income. Now sixteen thousand dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 1>that's about two hundred thousand dollars a year net and

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<v Speaker 1>disposable income to most Americans the's two hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year after taxes. Is that affordable housing for average

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<v Speaker 1>middle class Americans?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, that's really true than that. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>subsidy effectively to a developer to make more money and

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<v Speaker 3>to put housing in a very expensive place and make

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<v Speaker 3>it possible for them to do it the way they

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<v Speaker 3>want to do It has nothing to do with affordability

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<v Speaker 3>of housing. The average income in Hyde Park it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the highest in the cities. Yeah, but it's still

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<v Speaker 3>nowhere near what you're talking about, and that's not affordable housing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do agree with Scottie Johnson. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>been a smoke screen that has been used a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a project in Oakley which was shovel ready for

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<v Speaker 3>housing units. City council turns it over and gives permission

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<v Speaker 3>for them to build car condos. That's not housing. We

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<v Speaker 3>just had another event just this week condo. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>everybody has disposable income for a ferrari that needs a

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<v Speaker 3>conduct correct affordable Yeah, exactly, very affordable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Hyde Park compared to the other I

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<v Speaker 1>guess fifty one communities neighborhood councils.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned off the air that you've hooked up with

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Damon Lynch, and every now and then he has

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<v Speaker 1>a lucid thought, and I'm thinking to myself the way,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I like to think we're friends. But

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<v Speaker 1>nonetheless describe how this is not necessarily only about Hyde Park,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's about all fifty one communities, and how this council,

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<v Speaker 1>like many others, don't pay attention to you because it's

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<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park and therefore you people can afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>Know you're shut your mouth. How have you broadened out

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<v Speaker 2>this movement?

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<v Speaker 3>So this movement is actually supported by currently fourteen other

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<v Speaker 3>neighborhood councils and community councils from all over the city,

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<v Speaker 3>all the way from Washington Mount Washington in the east

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<v Speaker 3>to Sailor Park in the west. We have fourteen different

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<v Speaker 3>committees that took votes wrote letters saying don't do this,

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<v Speaker 3>to which the city council responded with crickets. Absolutely no

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<v Speaker 3>response to the letters. They did not write anybody and

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<v Speaker 3>said thank you for your letter. Nothing. We also have

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<v Speaker 3>four different civic organizations that have teamed with us. This

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<v Speaker 3>is not a Hyde Park issue, but I will say this,

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<v Speaker 3>if this can happen in Hyde Park. It can will,

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<v Speaker 3>and in fact already has happened in neighborhood after neighborhood

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<v Speaker 3>after neighborhood, Bondhill, Clifton Cuff, I could go. These are

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<v Speaker 3>all people who have joined us, and I could keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>Neighborhood after neighborhood after neighborhood is getting railroaded by development

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<v Speaker 3>that City Hall is getting a speed pass to rather

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<v Speaker 3>than letting the voice of the people be heard. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be clear, Hyde Park wants development. We want to improve

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<v Speaker 3>the square, we want to grow it, we want development.

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<v Speaker 3>We just don't want that development. The way it's sized,

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<v Speaker 3>the way it will cost, the hotel. All of that

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<v Speaker 3>is against zoning, which was just established a year ago

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<v Speaker 3>in order to keep Hyde Park Hyde Park. And right

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<v Speaker 3>now City Council is basically crumpling up that piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 3>throwing it over their shoulder and saying, do what you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do. Pee, okay, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, John Zinzer, say Hyde Park Square. You need thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of signatures. You have until May twenty third. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>about halfway through it. This is May thirteenth. You have

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<v Speaker 1>only ten days to get believe it or not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>May thirteenth and pete rose tomorrow night's May fourteenth, But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>where can people go to sign because your fight today

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be the fight of other citizens tomorrow and the

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<v Speaker 1>week after the month after. If you don't get the signatures,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't get on the ballot. And the way you go,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're about halfway through the process, how you coming

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<v Speaker 1>with signatures?

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, we are very excited by how we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>We have hundreds of volunteers in the field with thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of petitions. We are really pleased with where we are.

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<v Speaker 3>But we are absolutely keep on our foot, flat down

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<v Speaker 3>on the accelerator. We are not letting up. We are

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<v Speaker 3>going to get this number, and I would like to

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<v Speaker 3>see us get double the number that we need. We

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<v Speaker 3>are looking for fifteen thousand signatures. We're absolutely not there yet,

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<v Speaker 3>so we need everybody to come and help us get

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<v Speaker 3>those signatures. I'd be happy to tell you about a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of different places.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to set up a few things right now

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<v Speaker 3>to make it so easy for people. We want to

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<v Speaker 3>do a couple of different drive buys where you can

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<v Speaker 3>just stay in your car. We'll come to your window,

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<v Speaker 3>hand you the petition, talk you through whatever you need

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<v Speaker 3>to answer, get your voting signature, your street address. You

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<v Speaker 3>have to write out the word Cincinnati. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>write out the word Hamilton, and then you have to

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<v Speaker 3>date it and that's it. We can do this in

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<v Speaker 3>a minute or two. One of the drive by locations

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<v Speaker 3>which will be functioning on Tomorrow, Thursday and Friday is

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<v Speaker 3>three four three five Michigan Avenue in Cincinnati is just

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<v Speaker 3>off of Hyde Park. If you come on Eerie and

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<v Speaker 3>turn right onto Michigan. This is right in front of

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<v Speaker 3>the Unwind Wine Bar. We'll have volunteers there. You'll be

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<v Speaker 3>able to just drive up between ten am and four

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<v Speaker 3>pm the next three days Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Also on

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday at seven West Observatory Hill in Cincinnati, we will

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<v Speaker 3>have a drive by there. That's just up by Allt Park.

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<v Speaker 3>You're more than welcome to come by. There will be

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<v Speaker 3>volunteers there. Also, really great place. There will be volunteers

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<v Speaker 3>at the Farmers Market on four to two for two

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<v Speaker 3>to two two Hamilton Avenue from five to seven tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>another great place to go. I want to mention just

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<v Speaker 3>three other quick events. On the fifteenth after Pete Rose Day,

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<v Speaker 3>the day after at one one one West McMicken the

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<v Speaker 3>Northern Road Brewing. There will be an event inside. This

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<v Speaker 3>is being run by our friends at Charter who are

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<v Speaker 3>one of the civic groups who've teamed with us. They

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<v Speaker 3>will be glad to do your petition right there. Please

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<v Speaker 3>stop by there. Jim Tarbo will be a guest same night.

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<v Speaker 3>A little further down the road, Price Hill Chili another

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<v Speaker 3>place where we're getting collection of from five to eight pm.

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<v Speaker 3>Pryce Hill Chilly.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been there pretty good. I've been there.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go, so you stop by, have a little

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<v Speaker 3>something to eat, sign the petition. We would love to

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<v Speaker 3>have that. This will also bring brought to us by

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<v Speaker 3>the good folks at Charter. And then the last one

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<v Speaker 3>of those is Saturday the seventeenth at six zero nine

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<v Speaker 3>to five Montgomery Road nine and Brewing. That's another place

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<v Speaker 3>that you can go all right, of course, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the one of the great places also as well Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>at Hyde Park Square there's the Hyde Park Farmers Market.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd love to have your signatures there. All of these

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<v Speaker 3>are available. Easiest place to go get information rather than

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<v Speaker 3>listening to me is save Hyde Parksquare dot org. All

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<v Speaker 3>of these things are listed there. We love to have

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<v Speaker 3>more people volunteer to help us get these signatures. We'd

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<v Speaker 3>love everybody to keep showing up signing for us so

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<v Speaker 3>we can get the voice of the citizens heard on

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<v Speaker 3>this issue and every issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're making too much sense to be in politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, Save Hyde Parksquare dot org and this Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park Square. I may stop by. I'll call you

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm coming by and say a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love coming there. Save Hyde Parksquare dot org. You know, John,

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<v Speaker 1>they're counting on you and other citizens like Damon Lynch.

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<v Speaker 1>Know your role and shut your mouth and hopefully that.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna do it, I said to that, But let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it again as we to the twenty third. But

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<v Speaker 1>John Zinzer, once again, thanks for coming on the Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Cunningham Show. We'll do it again in John Zinzer, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a great American. And give my best to Robert and

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Joseph. Bobby Joseph is the best. And once again,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, John, Thank you, Bill appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's continue with more.

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<v Speaker 1>Save Hardparksquare dot org is all the sights, know your role,

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<v Speaker 1>and shut your mouth. I haven't done much of that.

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