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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Look who's
Speaker 2: with me today, Lamont Huntley, you got me back? You
Speaker 2: finally said yes every time I go how you pulled
Speaker 2: me back? Oh so that's what David Kelly saying. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'll be nice to you too, because are you a
Speaker 2: little sensitive when I asked you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's kind of like, you know, at
Speaker 3: the last minute you.
Speaker 2: Want to dance, you gotta you know, I can't ask
Speaker 2: I can't ask you week minute.
Speaker 3: I'm not that type of a guy.
Speaker 2: I'm not going home with you to last week you know.
Speaker 2: At Please give me some warning. Oh yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: dress up, put on the heels. Okay. I got a
Speaker 2: big kobe at the at the head of this command here,
Speaker 2: so we should be okay U good to see you.
Speaker 2: Lamonk You've been busy.
Speaker 4: Yes, I've been busy. There's been a blessing for us.
Speaker 3: We still out there trying to create things, make things happen,
Speaker 3: and keep people healthy.
Speaker 2: Keep people. Uh, I know that's one of your slogans,
Speaker 2: and that's one of ours too. Everybody wants to be
Speaker 2: keep them healthy, get on your machines.
Speaker 3: How healthy are people? Well, they're not that healthy. Spend
Speaker 3: the money in my store, you know. I mean, I
Speaker 3: just think it is what it is. As far as
Speaker 3: in life. You know, people are very busy. Yeah, got
Speaker 3: a lot going on, you know. I mean your particular
Speaker 3: customer to looking at your body structure, use.
Speaker 2: About twenty pounds to break your news. No, I've lost twenty.
Speaker 2: I need another twenty.
Speaker 4: We got a piece for you.
Speaker 2: Well, look at you all fancy because I gave you
Speaker 2: a grief. I complimented you. But about two months ago,
Speaker 2: and I say, I said, you've been losing weights. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been dancing. Yeah, I've been dancing a ballroom dancing.
Speaker 4: Making my wife happy.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what it takes, that's what Because you going
Speaker 2: to I'm sure you're going to the game.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're going to game.
Speaker 2: Then they will be there, ruined them on and you know,
Speaker 2: hopefully it could be a little different than it's. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, let me ask you, because it's been a
Speaker 2: h I don't want to swear your your your thought here,
Speaker 2: But what do you think about the season? The season? Uh,
Speaker 2: as a fan going to games one and to the
Speaker 2: overall outlook of the season. So first as a fan
Speaker 2: going to games because you you have good seats, you
Speaker 2: cheer mine, how has that been frustrating? Up and down?
Speaker 2: You know, as far as that end of it. I
Speaker 2: mean there's there's some some games.
Speaker 3: I mean, you go to you god man, they don't
Speaker 3: it could beat everybody, anybody, and it's it's like it's
Speaker 3: almost like you, I mean, what game plan Tommy came
Speaker 3: up with this week? Because it's always seemed like me,
Speaker 3: it's something different I'm seeing weekend and week out other
Speaker 3: than you know, love shooting a three pointer every time,
Speaker 3: and and then like the other game, other game, the other,
Speaker 3: the last game. I mean it started out he's oero
Speaker 3: for six shooting three pointerers to me, Tommy coach wise,
Speaker 3: I said, look, kid, I got a spot for you
Speaker 3: right here on this bit. Come sit down for a while.
Speaker 3: Let's get the balls to someone else.
Speaker 2: Was that the bu Au came was one of those
Speaker 2: big games when they did they lose that game be Buyu,
Speaker 2: we lost the by Was that the game that you're trying.
Speaker 2: So it has up and down. It's perfect. You know,
Speaker 2: you're you're, you're, You're entitled to that, and it has been.
Speaker 2: But has it been entertaining because if you didn't expect
Speaker 2: this to happen in the Big Twelve, because it's a
Speaker 2: heck of a basketball conference, you're going you're going to
Speaker 2: You're going to watch a good game. You've gotten some
Speaker 2: good games.
Speaker 3: You know what you're right now, I reflect backed on today,
Speaker 3: it has been entertaining simply because of the fact of
Speaker 3: the competition playing versus the past years.
Speaker 4: Who knows, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you knew what the outcome was in the Big
Speaker 3: twel in Pact twelve and stuff.
Speaker 4: You see s U c.
Speaker 1: L A.
Speaker 3: You know what happened, and those are the exciting games.
Speaker 3: But every team that came in here has been exciting
Speaker 3: in some form. The defense, to me, has really really
Speaker 3: been elevated, no question, since we've been in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: The defense that we're playing too now as well as
Speaker 3: we're playing against our opponents, but the opponent's come in
Speaker 3: here playing some hell of a defense.
Speaker 2: Right here. Here's my thought. I wrote about it Saturday
Speaker 2: after they lost to Iowa State, and everybody was happy,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you will too. They went eleven in one, right,
Speaker 2: played really well, but they hadn't played anybody. I think
Speaker 2: because you're an athlete. Because you're an athlete, you know
Speaker 2: you can beat Sam, Houston State, you can beat New
Speaker 2: Mexico State, blah blah blah. Until you played the USC's well, God,
Speaker 2: these guys look good, look good. Then what the hell
Speaker 2: happened against you?
Speaker 5: Was?
Speaker 2: Well, it's a different it's a step up in games. Houston,
Speaker 2: Iowa State, Texas Tech. You know what I'm saying, You're
Speaker 2: gonna have a difficult time because you're not the top
Speaker 2: of the top, but you're right in the middle and
Speaker 2: having to struggle against that upper middle.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense, you know.
Speaker 3: And I mean the competition brings out a different person
Speaker 3: exactly weekend and week out, and you know, and and
Speaker 3: and to me, that's where the coaching comes into effect too,
Speaker 3: as far as coaching these kids up and get them
Speaker 3: ready for the game, because and you know, another two
Speaker 3: I think a big difference is the officiating. I mean,
Speaker 3: they let these kids play more, i think, within this
Speaker 3: year than they did in the past. And to be
Speaker 3: more physical, so so they know that they're gonna let
Speaker 3: them be physical.
Speaker 4: A foul really ain't going to be a foul.
Speaker 3: So I think all players, there's a particular players that
Speaker 3: constantly goes up expecting a foul. I don't think you can.
Speaker 3: You can't expect a foul in this league. You got
Speaker 3: to expect to score.
Speaker 2: Didn't get a foul, right, had a hard time because
Speaker 2: that's all he did was complaining about the foul. You're
Speaker 2: the guy who's not not done well in this situation
Speaker 2: is kJ Lewis. That's who I'm talking about. He can't
Speaker 2: expect that he's going to get fouler every time or good.
Speaker 2: But he's more of a fouler.
Speaker 3: And he's a foul and he's a hell of a
Speaker 3: defensive Yeah, he's a heck of a defensive player.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just think that you know that
Speaker 3: that portion of of what I've been seeing with out
Speaker 3: with our team is need to be And you're close enough,
Speaker 3: you're close enough with your tickets that I think you
Speaker 3: because we're a little up above you, right, that you
Speaker 3: can kind of tell whether the team.
Speaker 2: Has it emotionally or not emotionally. I think that sometimes
Speaker 2: hasn't been there. He's admitted it. You know, sometimes they
Speaker 2: just come and played a little lax.
Speaker 3: But do you think because of the rotation instead of
Speaker 3: stand up certain rotations a certain group, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. But his routation, he only
Speaker 2: has seven dudes, only the routici.
Speaker 3: But it seems like to me when he brings in, gosh,
Speaker 3: what's the kid number four? Townsend Towns When he brings
Speaker 3: Townsen in off the bench, everything goes a little flatter.
Speaker 2: I think it's because of Townsend. But okay, so if
Speaker 2: that's the case, he has lived up to his hest.
Speaker 2: But he was starting at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, then he got hurt, right, But you.
Speaker 3: Know, once he got hurt, I mean, I think our
Speaker 3: level play increased. The way we was playing as a
Speaker 3: group was much better just as well. But then you
Speaker 3: bring them in and change.
Speaker 4: Up their rotation.
Speaker 2: Well the effects I won't disagree with you there, but
Speaker 2: the thing is now you're limited with the number of
Speaker 2: people you have.
Speaker 4: Think young kids, let them run.
Speaker 2: No, no, hey, I'm I'm with you there, because you're seventeen,
Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen, that's what you do. That's what you want
Speaker 2: to do, right, But now here we are five months
Speaker 2: into it with a month weeks left, and how tired
Speaker 2: are you one? And how beat up are you? I know,
Speaker 2: I know you're going to say that, and I totally
Speaker 2: get it, because if you give them a ball, they'll
Speaker 2: play forever.
Speaker 4: They'll play fifty minutes.
Speaker 2: But and you're in the league where they're not calling
Speaker 2: files anyway, So let the kids play. Yeah, well that's
Speaker 2: what he's trying to do because his offenses let him
Speaker 2: play and go let them go, and other teams aren't
Speaker 2: allowing that to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2: But it's it's it's it's frustrating just to watch, and
Speaker 2: that's what's frustrating.
Speaker 3: Frustrated on that end, and watch you know where you where?
Speaker 3: You leading by nineteen and all of a sudden you
Speaker 3: lose them by two. Yeah, let me tell you.
Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday in terms of oh, I'll
Speaker 2: ask you who who are these guys? What is the team?
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna ask you or shut this. You are
Speaker 2: who you are, We all are who we are. What
Speaker 2: is this team? What are the good things and what
Speaker 2: are the bad things? We have about fifty seven minutes.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You are who you are?
Speaker 2: You just you just gave up one of the things.
Speaker 2: I think who they are. They have a big lead
Speaker 2: and they give it up. Guess what's going to happen eventually?
Speaker 2: That could happen, right at some point. But the thing
Speaker 2: you said, who they are, I don't know who they
Speaker 2: are still, No, I'm really not sure who they are.
Speaker 2: Can you say that they're tougher, oh, compared the last year?
Speaker 2: So just just who they are? Just are they tough?
Speaker 2: They tougher than last year?
Speaker 3: Okay, tough to compared to the rest of this fact
Speaker 3: that this is a conference.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're you're right, But they're tougher than we've seen
Speaker 2: in the past in the past. Okay. Are they good shooters?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, so then we know that, right, we know that
Speaker 2: that's what they are. But tougher. Can't shoot? Can they defend?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's a good thing. That's How do they
Speaker 2: defend all the time?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's what they're not consistent with the defense?
Speaker 2: Do they can can? Okay? Now we're going to individuals.
Speaker 2: Caleb Love, can you trust him? No, and that's who
Speaker 2: he is, and that's who he is, right, consistent, right,
Speaker 2: And can he get you six straight games to get
Speaker 2: you where you need to go?
Speaker 4: Okay, but he can give you one.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you need to say six. Henry Basar, I
Speaker 2: like what I see in Hindry. So he's been more consistent.
Speaker 2: He's the most consistent player. And I think he's the
Speaker 2: player in that category. Okay.
Speaker 4: And I love a Walker. How how tough he is?
Speaker 3: I mean, and he and he knows what He's been consistent, Yeah,
Speaker 3: very consistent. His role is is to get the offensive rebounds,
Speaker 3: defensive rebounds, and get the tough baskets down low defense
Speaker 3: and very inconsistent offensively defensively. You can't ask for a
Speaker 3: better play, Okay. Jaydon Bradley, Jayden Bradley has been steady.
Speaker 3: To me, he has been steady.
Speaker 2: He's kind of a little up and then just steady.
Speaker 4: He's been steady.
Speaker 2: Okay, So maybe Henry Jayden, Uh Carter, you must be
Speaker 2: impressed with Carter.
Speaker 3: Well, I think Carter is showing he's a freshman. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's showing he's a true freshman person because there's a
Speaker 3: lot of immaturity that I do see in his play.
Speaker 3: But yet and again, you see why the NBA want
Speaker 3: this kid because he does have.
Speaker 4: That NBA calib He's that NB caliber player right.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm not sure if I'm missing anybody else? Am
Speaker 2: I missing anybody else?
Speaker 4: I said?
Speaker 2: Okay, oh the guy who doesn't choose. Yeah, he's there
Speaker 2: to shoot right right. Your job is to shoot the ball,
Speaker 2: but you're not going to shoot the ball. So so
Speaker 2: inconsistent up in your little thesis here that I got
Speaker 2: your your facts here, How do you like this team?
Speaker 2: Given the ups and the downs and are they capable?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet the house farm on them going into
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve. I wouldn't bet the farm at all.
Speaker 3: Too many ifs, too many f's that that that they're not.
Speaker 3: You know, I can't expect them to even I mean
Speaker 3: the Big twelve tournament, you know, I expect them to
Speaker 3: be one and done.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you that they can play. They could
Speaker 2: play right away or I mean after the second game
Speaker 2: is Houston and Texas. Yeah, it's it's it's it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough to If they win one, they
Speaker 2: can be one done. I mean, they could be out
Speaker 2: are you. Are you part of the theory that, Okay,
Speaker 2: they lose early, come back, get ready for the tournament.
Speaker 2: The rest is ready to go if they lose or
Speaker 2: get ready for the Yeah, you have to I meaning no, it's.
Speaker 4: Not a good day. It's never a good thing to lose.
Speaker 3: I mean no, No, I'm sure they want to win
Speaker 3: the whole tournament, sure of the opportunity.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 4: No, they don't want to just lose one game and
Speaker 4: be out of it.
Speaker 2: Not purpose I'm not saying purposely, but if it.
Speaker 3: Does happen, it happened. But I don't think in their
Speaker 3: mindset they'll be happy with it. They shouldn't be happy
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about this at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the year, where Okay, it's a great league, we're gonna
Speaker 2: see some good games, like we were talking about, have
Speaker 2: to convince you go, you paid a lot of money
Speaker 2: for those tickets. Why not be entertained, right? And you
Speaker 2: have been. I think you've got your to night's another game. Uh,
Speaker 2: and then you're and then you're like against the pac
Speaker 2: twelve year old thinking, oh we got tickets, you want
Speaker 2: to go there, you know, and whatever.
Speaker 4: Not entertaining.
Speaker 3: But every game has been every game's that've been and
Speaker 3: we've been to has been an exciting game. Excited win
Speaker 3: a loss, It has been exciting. Tonight's game would be
Speaker 3: really exciting because of what happened, you know, off the
Speaker 3: court at the end of the game up there.
Speaker 2: And issues always bring that bring that to it craziness.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. And we said, uh, they're
Speaker 2: gonna pay the tournament, play the season, and then get
Speaker 2: to the tournament. We'll see what happens, because it's going
Speaker 2: to be a heck of a tournament, even part maybe
Speaker 2: better than the n C DOUBLEAUE tournament.
Speaker 3: Because of the everything. The teams that's in it are
Speaker 3: very very good right to get to win. This is
Speaker 3: going to be I mean, you got the Houston even Kansas.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't count Kansas as much.
Speaker 2: Houston Kansas. I always stayed again Texas Tech, Texas Tech, Baylor, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I still like but Baylor brings and then Arizona.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. I will talk a little
Speaker 2: about football. Two on the other side, we're gonna take
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Speaker 2: three fifteen or three seventeen. We're gonna have Richard Page
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Speaker 2: we're gonna have hold Robino from a issue of The
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Speaker 2: And the ball here in Fox Sports Fortune fifty. I'm
Speaker 2: Steve Rivera and today with me is lamont Udley. So
Speaker 2: we start to find every now and again we know.
Speaker 4: We will win. That's an easy one.
Speaker 2: Physically, yes, mentally I got that. I got it. Where
Speaker 2: are you're gonna start? So we're gonna get our guest
Speaker 2: here about at the three forty mark, we'll we'll talk
Speaker 2: more about stuff. Anybody want to call, This is your
Speaker 2: time to call five two zero for one, six seventy
Speaker 2: four forty if you want to get ahold of lamp
Speaker 2: for a question or meet for a question. What about
Speaker 2: tonight's game? What do you think is gonna happen? How
Speaker 2: fun is it gonna be? If you're gonna go another
Speaker 2: late I'm sure you hate these leaks. Oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take a nap before you go. You're gonna go home
Speaker 2: home to take a nap. Yeah, m hm, that could be. Well,
Speaker 2: it's been if anything, you talked about the fun schedule,
Speaker 2: this has been brutal.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean these late night games we have
Speaker 4: about form.
Speaker 2: At least at least you know, eight or nine, eight
Speaker 2: or not. Yeah, And that's been rough. You know.
Speaker 3: And the rough part is is leaving there after the
Speaker 3: game take it out about an hour, no half, so
Speaker 3: that's a two hours.
Speaker 2: You notice on another thing, the games are taking two
Speaker 2: twenty twenty extra minutes, do you They're usually two hours
Speaker 2: because of the got to go to the monitor, got
Speaker 2: to take the time out to look at the monitor,
Speaker 2: got to do this because the TV timeouts and the
Speaker 2: extra time. It's like two twenty now.
Speaker 3: See, I wouldn't be as as that much breast on that, like.
Speaker 2: You guys, yeah, because you know it's a TV everyone.
Speaker 2: I'm sure when you watch it at home, you have
Speaker 2: to wait for them to because everyone else is dealing
Speaker 2: with it too.
Speaker 4: I never noticed that. Now I'll notice it a little
Speaker 4: more now.
Speaker 2: Because we were getting to the locker room. We're getting
Speaker 2: into the press conference, and takes ten to fifty minutes
Speaker 2: for them to show up.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you what you said when you go
Speaker 3: to a press conference when after the game, Tommy Lloyd,
Speaker 3: he always go to the radio right and answer questions
Speaker 3: or get on it and talk talk whatever.
Speaker 2: Either. This is what is a deal is could they
Speaker 2: win the game, lose the game? Whatever, goes to the
Speaker 2: locker room, talks to the guys, and he does go
Speaker 2: to the locker room for me. Yes, it depends if
Speaker 2: he's on the road, It depends on the mood. He
Speaker 2: goes to the radio first and then goes talk to
Speaker 2: the team and goes to the press conference. So this
Speaker 2: is how it normally is, because they would lose. They
Speaker 2: go to press, to the to the to the locker room,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah for like five minutes, go to the
Speaker 2: radio for another three four minutes, and then go to
Speaker 2: the press conference. So that's going to be another twenty minutes, right,
Speaker 2: But he said the same thing over, isn't it from
Speaker 2: where the radio to the press comvers. Yeah, but we're
Speaker 2: not on the radio. We're waiting for him.
Speaker 4: Would you just be at the radio waiting?
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't work to tell me. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: because we get him. He does that for three four minutes,
Speaker 2: then we get him for like twenty or fifteen to
Speaker 2: twenty minutes with more questions because Brian's Brian's asking him,
Speaker 2: you know, answer this, it's hard, and that's what did
Speaker 2: they do? And we ask him, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: what the hell happened here? What the hell happened there?
Speaker 2: And he's been a little testy lately. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you've noticed, but he has been a little testy.
Speaker 2: He's protecting his kids. Probably answer, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. So that's another fifteen and then
Speaker 2: the kids come out after him. Okay, so then we
Speaker 2: got them for like seven minutes.
Speaker 3: So what do you think as far as I mean,
Speaker 3: the way the kids are reacting now? Been a kid
Speaker 3: was almost like no, they defined in regards to what
Speaker 3: you guys may ask.
Speaker 2: Him, No, you know what, the funny guy, the only
Speaker 2: guy that's really ever done that is Kirk. No. No,
Speaker 2: kind of like a kind of like a smart ass.
Speaker 2: He you know, you know, you know you ask me
Speaker 2: that and I'll give you an answer. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Just the smartes what he is. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: he is who he is. But he's probably the only
Speaker 2: one it would last five six years. That is fun
Speaker 2: because you get to quote him. You know, he's a
Speaker 2: good quote. Tommy's been a good quote too, Yeah he has.
Speaker 2: You know, he got he got into the press conference
Speaker 2: two three games ago. I know you guys think we're
Speaker 2: gonna get her, asked you and now that was out
Speaker 2: of the that was kind of like, where's this coming from?
Speaker 2: And then he's used us to kind of says, uh,
Speaker 2: where they're gonna play better. I can't remember what he said.
Speaker 2: We got to be tougher, stronger and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: He didn't tell his kids this, but he used us
Speaker 2: to tell the story it out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is. I mean that those are the things
Speaker 3: that I see in him. I really like as a coach,
Speaker 3: and he really protects his kids. I mean, and he's
Speaker 3: totally different than Oh yeah, he's totally I agree with
Speaker 3: that and any and which is which me as a player,
Speaker 3: I would totally appreciate that, surely from a head coach
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 2: And that wasn't wasn't a smith like that too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was very protective of our of his players, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, he would never throw his players underneath the bus,
Speaker 2: and you, as a reporter or or a beat writer
Speaker 2: couldn't come after us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he would be there for us and stuff.
Speaker 3: And I think there was there was certain times that
Speaker 3: that he would let the reporters come out after practice
Speaker 3: and if we talked to and talk to the players
Speaker 3: other than that, it was untouchable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, And that used to be the case
Speaker 2: for a long time, but it's not the case anymore.
Speaker 4: To be touched.
Speaker 2: They want to be Oh yeah, yah, want to be
Speaker 2: because now you have name image and like this, right,
Speaker 2: what do you know? You're kind of different because you
Speaker 2: have an insider and there you know people, uh, we
Speaker 2: don't get to tell the kids' stories. You know, who's
Speaker 2: who's this their job to tell who's a kid? Now
Speaker 2: I want you to tell when I can tell, let
Speaker 2: me go there. You could tell it, but you don't
Speaker 2: have an avenue really to tell it outside of Instagram
Speaker 2: or whatever. But now that's how that's how people get
Speaker 2: to know who you are, and people like you in
Speaker 2: the business world. I really like that guy. He comes
Speaker 2: out very smart and intelligent. Or the girl or on
Speaker 2: her female really I would I wouldn't mind giving her
Speaker 2: an il deal whatever it is. But you know, we
Speaker 2: don't get to know these people to that level back
Speaker 2: in the Smith Times, the Tony Times, the Loot Times.
Speaker 2: Now it's all saturate, it's all watered down.
Speaker 3: They looking for the future, they're looking for that bag,
Speaker 3: you know, and and they do. I mean, and I
Speaker 3: can't see anything wrong with that because I mean, these
Speaker 3: kids trying to brand himself and make themselves.
Speaker 4: Be noticed so they can get paid.
Speaker 2: Well, that's my point that you doesn't allow that to happen.
Speaker 4: But the kids are doing it still.
Speaker 2: They're they're trying to on the platform. They're doing it.
Speaker 2: They are getting noticed on the platform they're doing it.
Speaker 2: They getting noticed to where is enough for them?
Speaker 4: As far as that, I want you to give an example.
Speaker 2: I don't look at the kid, the punter, the kicker,
Speaker 2: loop out, a backup kicker, cash Perlman, tell me what's
Speaker 2: what's what cash pim So tell me? I mean this
Speaker 2: what this kid had? How many followers there? Six and
Speaker 2: fifty something? Because because he he goes and he creates
Speaker 2: this what is it called the TikTok TikTok?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what they all do. I wonder how
Speaker 2: much he was making if he's I can't tell you
Speaker 2: that's what it's for. But you know, I just they
Speaker 2: just had an article about this kid and they named
Speaker 2: some of the people who are back in here. Okay,
Speaker 2: not just so that's what it's for. That's exactly. He
Speaker 2: is getting big dollars from somewhere else. He must know
Speaker 2: some people. You know, this is a national guy like
Speaker 2: who and Google find.
Speaker 4: It was some some real strong names.
Speaker 2: And that's what it's for. That that's exactly what. That's
Speaker 2: what and that's what the kids are doing. That's what
Speaker 2: the kids. But you just listened to one. I don't
Speaker 2: know very many other ones. I really don't know if
Speaker 2: you with this. I think I think kJ Lewis does
Speaker 2: it well. kJ Lewis, he has some appall out right now.
Speaker 2: He got some shirts, a cap you an IL guy.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no I'm not.
Speaker 2: Because you're the target audience.
Speaker 4: I am the target out.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not the tie audience you have the I'm
Speaker 3: the person that they think that, But no I'm not.
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's I think I totally respect
Speaker 3: a kid going to get in himself.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. I mean, to me, that's
Speaker 2: that's awesome. But you shouldn't give him a check just
Speaker 2: to give him a check. I totally agree with that,
Speaker 2: agree with I don't agree with but that's how it's
Speaker 2: been again. It's n I l name, image and likeness,
Speaker 2: go sell it, you know, No, no, no, I'm with
Speaker 2: you on there. And if you can't kill it more
Speaker 2: power to you.
Speaker 4: Exactly. And this cash kid is killing it. If you
Speaker 4: found it.
Speaker 14: It is one hundred twenty endorsement deals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on there, and I've never heard the guy,
Speaker 2: so tell me who because you're not his audience. TikTok
Speaker 2: a door dash target, doctor Pepper listen, and he's not
Speaker 2: with Arizona Healthy.
Speaker 4: No, you can't do nothing for me but this.
Speaker 2: And but look at the images that he got or
Speaker 2: the endorsements he got.
Speaker 3: Is the doorseless? Where these young kids are after? You know,
Speaker 3: door dash? You know young kids go door dash. I
Speaker 3: don't do no door What are the other ones? Whndy's
Speaker 3: t c O and the NFL?
Speaker 2: Well in the NFL, yeah, I saw that too, and
Speaker 2: so you do the super Bowl? There was a he
Speaker 2: had a big endorsement during the Super Bowl. Both he's
Speaker 2: exactly then what this is about?
Speaker 4: Exactly what it's about.
Speaker 3: I mean, if anything, Arizona, you know, the athletic director should.
Speaker 2: Put this kid up on the stage. This is this
Speaker 2: is what we need to be doing. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: what you need to do if you want your name,
Speaker 2: image and.
Speaker 4: Likeness out there, just like what this kid is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, instead of well, now what do you think about
Speaker 2: the new amendment or whatever word I want to use,
Speaker 2: where they're gonna get about two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Each, two hundred twenty, two hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: It's from the two billion or two twenty million, but
Speaker 2: that's twenty million, twenty million total for the school, for
Speaker 2: the focus for the athlete. I mean, have two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand I was looking at when they give you all
Speaker 2: up its thousand.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, so so so we as a media
Speaker 2: we I'll put my name in there. Should we still
Speaker 2: be treating them with kid gloves? You're making two hundred
Speaker 2: bus No, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I mean because at this point in time, you're an
Speaker 3: employee to me, you know, so I gotta treat you.
Speaker 2: Many employees get paid that dollars.
Speaker 4: You're right, but I'm I'm gonna learn to treat you
Speaker 4: that way, you know.
Speaker 3: So now you you, I mean, you know the money's
Speaker 3: coming somewhere, so you know, earn it, no free rides,
Speaker 3: earn it.
Speaker 4: You know, and god, that's that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Do you think eventually that this whole thing could be
Speaker 2: an an employee employee employer relationship will they have to be.
Speaker 4: To me, it's heading that way, you know.
Speaker 3: And I mean if I got to if I'm giving
Speaker 3: you a you know, a tax return, you got to
Speaker 3: you know, somebody, somebody gotta you know, you know, be
Speaker 3: accountable for that money coming in.
Speaker 2: So so if Lamar Hunley doesn't do his job very well,
Speaker 2: you get fire. You know, it was just gonna go there.
Speaker 4: Get fired.
Speaker 3: And I think at this point in time it leads
Speaker 3: to that way, you know, as far as if the
Speaker 3: kid's not producing and either you take the money from
Speaker 3: you or take the scholarship away.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, I'm talking that there's still a scholarship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: But now the way the scholarship is, that's very protective,
Speaker 2: you know, as far as you I mean, you have
Speaker 2: to do something very bad.
Speaker 3: To lose your scholarship. Yeah, to lose your scholarship. So
Speaker 3: that that'll be that'll be interesting on it. You're forty
Speaker 3: three years too late.
Speaker 2: I know it.
Speaker 4: Man, I'll be giving me a two million dollars of
Speaker 4: my and I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would be doing.
Speaker 4: I'll come up with something. I'll come up with something.
Speaker 4: Boy telling you, I mean, I had no problem selling myself.
Speaker 3: I could do it back, and though it's kind a
Speaker 3: ton Yeah, I think I think I think we would
Speaker 3: have had we would have had some uh some players
Speaker 3: that probably had a personality to make some not you know,
Speaker 3: well they produced very well, but they were their personality
Speaker 3: to make some dollars.
Speaker 2: Too, because you have to have that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Randy Robbins, you know, I think he
Speaker 3: would have shined himself on Byron Evans, of course, Joe Drake,
Speaker 3: you know, God bless Joe Drake, Jewish Hope. I mean,
Speaker 3: we we had some some studs out there that I
Speaker 3: think would have would have done well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the community embraced you, right, they felt sorry
Speaker 2: for us too, because yeah, but you know back in
Speaker 2: the day when I was playing, we.
Speaker 4: Was on probation.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, so they really feel
Speaker 3: sorry for us, so they would have gave us.
Speaker 2: Those were probably I don't know if you were part
Speaker 2: of it, so kind part of what I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: part of that time, that era, I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: part of that where it was the.
Speaker 13: Tougher times, when very tough time by that, what do
Speaker 13: you mean, I mean it was, well, it was it
Speaker 13: was tough financially as far as the student athlete, you know,
Speaker 13: as far as you know, trying to make ends meet,
Speaker 13: and and you know, and again, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think it has changed as far as the the
Speaker 3: actual culture of players and the players that that comes
Speaker 3: to universities. Most kids that come to university economically, you know,
Speaker 3: they come from a bad situation in it. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's not much that doesn't change, that hasn't change at all.
Speaker 3: So so so God blessed the getting some money to
Speaker 3: take care of the sun. So imagine, you know, forty
Speaker 3: years ago in those setting situation where you know, we
Speaker 3: had to figure out, you know, how to put gas
Speaker 3: in a car or or get some and the only
Speaker 3: thing we got, you know, was was student union.
Speaker 4: That was it.
Speaker 3: We got one meal at the student union, you know,
Speaker 3: versus what kids get nowadays.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: So I mean I was hunger twenty four hours a day,
Speaker 3: you know, and you have to keep your big way.
Speaker 3: I had to keep my big weight up at that time,
Speaker 3: try to keep it down. But you know, it's it.
Speaker 3: I mean, the times was different than the times where
Speaker 3: they were, but but we didn't know any difference. So
Speaker 3: how do we compare it? Because we really didn't know
Speaker 3: any difference and stuff. So you know, I was happy
Speaker 3: to be here. I was, you know, playing with my
Speaker 3: brother En doing some good things.
Speaker 2: So back in eighty two eighty three years, right, so
Speaker 2: it was it and I kind of know the situation
Speaker 2: was it us against them?
Speaker 11: Was it?
Speaker 2: What was me? Uh? Because you guys won a lot
Speaker 2: of good games, but you also lost some games you
Speaker 2: probably should not have exactly how was the attitude it was?
Speaker 3: I mean it was more like us against them, you know,
Speaker 3: going into every game situation and I I and because
Speaker 3: not only that, we just had that tag on our
Speaker 3: back as far as we can't I mean, what are
Speaker 3: we playing for each week without playing for a bowl game?
Speaker 3: On an opportunity to play a bowl game at the
Speaker 3: end of the season, you know. So it did get
Speaker 3: to that point in time where we had to, you know,
Speaker 3: make it fun for us and make things every game
Speaker 3: was a bowl game some sense and stuff, because that's
Speaker 3: all we had to look forward.
Speaker 2: And you did do that with some big games.
Speaker 4: We did. We did with the big games.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's amazing that that even you know,
Speaker 2: Coach Smith was one of these guys that always prepare
Speaker 2: you for whoever the opponent was you know, I mean
Speaker 2: be an Oregon State or be an l s U.
Speaker 4: They prepared us the same way.
Speaker 2: Was that good?
Speaker 3: Very good? Who'ld you lose to that? You shouldn't have
Speaker 3: lost Fresno State? And remember losing the Fresno State. We
Speaker 3: shouldn't have lost a team like a Fresno State, a
Speaker 3: team like Oregon State once twice.
Speaker 4: That's about it.
Speaker 2: So I've talked about I don't know if you've argued
Speaker 2: do all this, but this is one of the things
Speaker 2: I've learned in this long time that I've been doing this,
Speaker 2: that emotionally plays a huge part, part apart far part
Speaker 2: in how you succeed. Right, you playing against l s U.
Speaker 2: You know deep down you got to play your butt
Speaker 2: off to to do this to win it. But you know,
Speaker 2: Friendsne State, now we got this.
Speaker 4: You know that that's true, very true, very true. And
Speaker 4: And unless.
Speaker 2: You're that player or that person and that personality that
Speaker 2: I don't care who I'm I'm lined up against, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get my all every snap. And there's there are
Speaker 2: some players that play that way, and there's some players
Speaker 2: that do not. Well, here's the thing too, it's contagious
Speaker 2: it's a contagious player. Yeah, because you think an almost
Speaker 2: collective group of we got we just beat Notre.
Speaker 4: Dame, rest no wet this. It is very contagious.
Speaker 3: I mean you get to that point where you, you know,
Speaker 3: think the game is won before.
Speaker 2: It the snapped him right, and how many times does
Speaker 2: that happen? It happens more.
Speaker 4: I'm a product of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think every athlete can say that. Okay, let's
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Speaker 2: Well, welcome back to Ian Thebaull Here on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty, Steve Rivera, your I am Laman again, Laman Hunt.
Speaker 2: You're still here. You haven't left me. We're waiting for
Speaker 2: Richard to call us.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't leave you, Steve. Nothing, although you called me
Speaker 4: late at night.
Speaker 2: No, I don't call you.
Speaker 4: I you text me, text me, you d M me?
Speaker 4: Is that what they call it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's that's how we communicate.
Speaker 4: You called me so you can hear me say no.
Speaker 2: Okay, apparently he's gonna we're gonna have to call him.
Speaker 2: It's not coming through. Let me give you a number here, Okay?
Speaker 15: No?
Speaker 2: Cool, Well and kind of reminisce about some issue games
Speaker 2: with lou to some good old days. I know that
Speaker 2: rich has a lot of a lot of big games
Speaker 2: to talk about. I don't think he was here with
Speaker 2: the Freeder time. I think that was somebody else when
Speaker 2: they beat Arizona.
Speaker 3: That was one show you guys did with the gentleman
Speaker 3: who said he did the marketing for or the advertisement for.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Steve, Steve, Yeah that guy, Steve. Hey, Richard, Hey,
Speaker 2: this is Steve and Lamont. Steve. Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Can you hear me? You can't hear me. He just
Speaker 2: call him back because his his phone's not coming through. So, yes, Steve,
Speaker 2: when I want to see Steve Lynn the marketing guy
Speaker 2: for he was with the one the bank, bank ones
Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah, the good.
Speaker 3: Old Actually I heard that story. I was driving around
Speaker 3: town and I listened to that was a really good story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had a lot of those fun,
Speaker 2: fun things back in the day later mid nineties. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize it was put together that way, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had no idea was put together that way. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we'll get back to to him. Just a lot
Speaker 2: of the things. There was one incident I want to
Speaker 2: hope that Richard can tell me about. Uh it was Evans,
Speaker 2: coach Evans for the issue. Yeah, and he had he
Speaker 2: had finally beat Arizona for the first time in forever.
Speaker 2: In the shake hands, you know the line are you
Speaker 2: for or against the shake? Shaking hands?
Speaker 4: That's respect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there was something that happened, an incident that
Speaker 2: happened in that.
Speaker 4: Ast shaking hands.
Speaker 2: Because of all what's going on now, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: just a question all the problems. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: because of the potential getting into a fight. It happens
Speaker 2: a lot now. So if I go shake your hand,
Speaker 2: that means I'm gonna fight you.
Speaker 12: No.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Oh no, that's not good. It's not good. He
Speaker 2: goes the wrong person. No, no, he has on let
Speaker 2: me see answer your phone. Rich Do you shake a
Speaker 2: person hand that might cost the is that? Is that why?
Speaker 2: Bobby Hurley? Yeah, they were. They were afraid of a
Speaker 2: fight happening. Like to b why you get there was
Speaker 2: something happened after the shake cup shaking up the hands
Speaker 2: down there the intention I thought, you mean coach to coach? No, no,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I think you got a monitor that yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you think it should be doing it at all. If
Speaker 2: you have to monitor it, well, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: you can do you do? You played the national anthem.
Speaker 2: Let him stand out there for that. Yeah, well not
Speaker 2: they're not gonna get a fight for that. No, but
Speaker 2: you know, you know how, I'll never get lost in
Speaker 2: the woods. You know why I don't go to the woods.
Speaker 2: You know how they won't. You don't do it again
Speaker 2: after exactly, you don't shake hands, You don't.
Speaker 4: You know what you gotta worry about it exact.
Speaker 2: Coach, you shake hands like the game book players.
Speaker 4: I respect that. I thought earlier you just said just
Speaker 4: to shake a hand. No, no, no, okay, no no.
Speaker 2: As far as that, it's it's stupid stuff because you
Speaker 2: learned in kindergarten. Be fair guy O.
Speaker 3: But the sportsmanship, I mean, that's the whole They still
Speaker 3: showing sportsmanship, and I think you still gotta put that
Speaker 3: out there for young kids.
Speaker 2: No question that still got But these guys aren't young kids.
Speaker 2: They're they're older. But the young kids are watching. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're watching. Richard. Are you there, Richard? Richard? Hey, can
Speaker 2: you hear me? Oh great, great, great? We last you
Speaker 2: the first time. Oh hey, how are you.
Speaker 5: You don't know what happened?
Speaker 2: How are you good?
Speaker 5: That's great? How about you?
Speaker 2: We're don't find them here with Lamont Huntley.
Speaker 5: Oh you got an all cads today?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, you know he calls me at the last minute.
Speaker 2: You know, he he's one of those they can't get
Speaker 2: the date, so you got to wait to the last man.
Speaker 5: Rich, that's what that's why you and I are here.
Speaker 3: Exactly, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: Hey, I wanted to talk to you real quick about
Speaker 2: good old, good old day stories A s U U
Speaker 2: of A. I'm sure you have some behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Lamont here. I think you were
Speaker 2: there for the A s U game. You have a
Speaker 2: lost to the Coach Evans team.
Speaker 5: Wait what year is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know what year, but coach Evans finally pulled
Speaker 2: one off against you, of A. I think he was
Speaker 2: in Tempe. I know it was in Tempe, and they
Speaker 2: went through the hash, they went to the handshake.
Speaker 5: Line and and and well, I mean think about that
Speaker 5: game that I remember the most wasn't necessarily the handshake line,
Speaker 5: because you know, after the after the game, especially there,
Speaker 5: you're trying to get off the floors quickly as possible.
Speaker 5: The hardest part was the locker rooms back then used
Speaker 5: to be really close to each other, and we used
Speaker 5: to do our stuff, you do your postgame stuff sort
Speaker 5: of in the hallway or in the in the in
Speaker 5: the weight room across the hall and we had a
Speaker 5: little bit of a run in there because they were
Speaker 5: celebrating and and that was the first time we'd lost
Speaker 5: in a good long time, so our spirits weren't very high,
Speaker 5: to say the least. But there was a little bit
Speaker 5: of some some shouting and some some some some chess
Speaker 5: pumps and things of that nature in the hallway that
Speaker 5: they we had to fix for the following year. But
Speaker 5: those kind of things happened because that's when a rivalry
Speaker 5: is supposed to be. It's supposed to be a two
Speaker 5: sided thing, and and you know, as a tough game
Speaker 5: to lose. But uh, we managed to rebound and and
Speaker 5: and and play pretty well in the series after that,
Speaker 5: in my recollection, for the most part. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: that's that's why you want a series like that, because
Speaker 5: it makes it a little more spirited on both sides.
Speaker 2: The other time, I'll bring the Hashake situation later when
Speaker 2: when Arizona was killing him twenty thirty points and the
Speaker 2: students were getting on loot and what does Lut do
Speaker 2: you know, with about five minutes left.
Speaker 5: Oh, that was yeah, that was the scoreboard game, of course, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean that was that was probably Lut.
Speaker 5: Luke loves you. You know, coaches never admit that they
Speaker 5: hear things from the crowd on the sidelines, but you know,
Speaker 5: they hear everything. And that was probably what of Luke's
Speaker 5: real cool sort of trolling moment at that point when
Speaker 5: they were you know, they'd say stupid things, you're down
Speaker 5: by thirty, and all Luke had to do was point
Speaker 5: to the scoreboard. And it was almost like the fans
Speaker 5: weren't smart enough to realize what was happening because he
Speaker 5: would just do it. And you know, if you were
Speaker 5: paying attention, it was really super funny. But you know,
Speaker 5: they thought they were getting the loot, and of course
Speaker 5: loot when you're up by thirty, you always get the
Speaker 5: last laugh. And that's what happened.
Speaker 2: There, right right.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: So, so you've seen some games, a lot of good games,
Speaker 2: a lot of crazy games. I was asking them on
Speaker 2: this about the handshake line on the controversy now going
Speaker 2: on all over the place. Are you for it against it?
Speaker 2: Or whatever you mean?
Speaker 5: You mean about that? You mean specifically about the last
Speaker 5: time when Bobby pulled the team off the floor and
Speaker 5: didn't shake hands.
Speaker 2: Well generally and generally.
Speaker 5: Generally speak. I don't have a problem with the handshake line,
Speaker 5: because the guys should be cool enough on both sides
Speaker 5: to be able to, you know, slap five and take
Speaker 5: the game. But you know what I mean, it's I
Speaker 5: think I think there's a little bit too much bravado
Speaker 5: these days and what happens, and like, it's not hard
Speaker 5: to shake hands and then walk to the you know,
Speaker 5: to your locker room. We've been playing college basketball for
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five years, and if this is
Speaker 5: what you do, that's what you do. I mean, Look,
Speaker 5: we've been Steve Waitnes games at the Final four and
Speaker 5: games for national championships that when the game's over, you
Speaker 5: shake hands and you walk off. One team walks off
Speaker 5: a loser in the only game you really don't want
Speaker 5: to lose, and the other team's a national champions It
Speaker 5: doesn't come to fisty cups, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mean, how do you avoid it?
Speaker 3: I mean because you're in such an intimate facility. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying. I'm not saying to avoid the handshake.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, do you I mean, I think it's just
Speaker 2: a process that has to be around foreverver. I mean,
Speaker 2: so I think it just goes with the territory and
Speaker 2: you just got to manage.
Speaker 5: Some of that, you're I mean about. You're right, it
Speaker 5: does go with the territory, and it does need to
Speaker 5: be managed. A lot of that. A lot of that
Speaker 5: starts with the head coach and what the expectations are.
Speaker 5: And if he can just say, hey, you know, when
Speaker 5: we win this game, we're gonna walk off the floor
Speaker 5: and we're gonna do it this way, you know, blah
Speaker 5: blah blah, and that's it. And hopefully that's enough. But
Speaker 5: you know, you that was one thing that Newton was
Speaker 5: always good at was, you know, he was always cool
Speaker 5: under pressure, so regardless of the circumstances, he managed to
Speaker 5: keep his head and be able to have a certain
Speaker 5: expectation for his guys. And and and that's what's needed
Speaker 5: now is somebody to quite frankly, be the adult in
Speaker 5: the room and say, hey, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: And this is how we're gonna do it.
Speaker 4: Wow, let me let me say that.
Speaker 2: Do you think what Bobby Hurley did the last game
Speaker 2: up there was managed properly by taking his team and
Speaker 2: tell him go into the locker room.
Speaker 5: I I watched that game. I didn't have a problem
Speaker 5: with Bobby doing that, and it was under the circumstances
Speaker 5: it was probably the right thing to do. What was
Speaker 5: the only real mistake there, quite frankly, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: was just a simple fact that he didn't communicate that
Speaker 5: very effectively with Tommy. He probably could have walked over,
Speaker 5: shake Tommy's hand and just said, hey, in the better
Speaker 5: part of of of cooling this thing down, let's just
Speaker 5: call it at that and move on, rather than walk
Speaker 5: to the end of the floor and kind of in
Speaker 5: a almost a confused way kind of wave and to say, hey,
Speaker 5: we're done. That. That looked kind of awkward you did.
Speaker 5: But other than that, yeah, there are there are those
Speaker 5: games sometimes that get a little two heated where you
Speaker 5: might want to just say, hey, coaches, shake hands, everybody
Speaker 5: else in the locker room, and that's it. I mean,
Speaker 5: let's live to find another day, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like you and me. Can you I
Speaker 2: want you to tell them the story about our Houston incident.
Speaker 5: Well, we had sat back in the day before we chartered. Sometimes,
Speaker 5: especially on Saturday afternoon games, we wouldn't have a lot
Speaker 5: of time to get from the game and do our thing,
Speaker 5: you know, shower media, get out a bus and drive
Speaker 5: Acrosstown to an airport. And we were playing a sort
Speaker 5: of a mid to late afternoon game in Houston, and
Speaker 5: we were going to be really hard pressed to make
Speaker 5: our flight and Steve knew that and I do that,
Speaker 5: and we were trying to work out a plan for
Speaker 5: how it was going to work. Well, unfortunately, the Cats
Speaker 5: didn't play all that well in the second half of
Speaker 5: that game in Houston, and we didn't win. And when
Speaker 5: you don't win, that slows everything down because the coaches
Speaker 5: think a little bit longer about what they should say.
Speaker 5: Everybody's a little heated, and you want to, you know,
Speaker 5: you want to address this thing properly. Well, we took
Speaker 5: longer in the locker room, and Steve's on deadline and
Speaker 5: he's hoping to get something and we're trying to leave
Speaker 5: and nobody really he wants to talk. So what does
Speaker 5: Steve do. He gets mad at the only person that
Speaker 5: he could get mad at in the building, which is me,
Speaker 5: And so what do I do. I try to defend
Speaker 5: what's happening, and I air my grievances back at Steve.
Speaker 5: So now we're in the hallway of the locker room,
Speaker 5: yelling at each other. There's a security guard who's sitting
Speaker 5: in a folding chair outside the door, who's supposed to
Speaker 5: protect the order, and he doesn't know what to do
Speaker 5: because all day he's seen Steve and I together talking
Speaker 5: through this, going back and forth, laughing and joking, and
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden we're at the end of
Speaker 5: the game, cussing everybody up and down like drunken sailors.
Speaker 5: And he doesn't know what to do. And so in
Speaker 5: that capacity, what do you do? I know that you know,
Speaker 5: Steve's got a job to do, and I'm trying to
Speaker 5: help him, and Steve understands the same for me. But
Speaker 5: I've just got to figure out in short order how
Speaker 5: we're gonna do this. Guys on the bus, get somebody
Speaker 5: to talk to Steve, and and and keep looting. The
Speaker 5: coach is happy, and all this stuff goes with it.
Speaker 5: It's a difficult and funny balance. That was one of
Speaker 5: those things that I bet if you ask that guy,
Speaker 5: he still tells that story about those two guys and
Speaker 5: just puss each other out for fifteen minutes in the hallways.
Speaker 2: And I think the song was I got a hold
Speaker 2: of the loot on the phone and a couple of
Speaker 2: players on the phone, and then we just need it
Speaker 2: worked itself out. But the funny thing about it is
Speaker 2: that we yelled, screaming at each other, I'm gonna a
Speaker 2: beer with.
Speaker 4: You later, and we still look together.
Speaker 2: And then you gotta tell you before you leave your
Speaker 2: your bus incident at an organ.
Speaker 5: Oh well, this is probably I've told this story, but we.
Speaker 2: Got about get the do it in a minute? You
Speaker 2: got it a minute?
Speaker 5: Okay, long story short. We pull up to Matt Cord
Speaker 5: in Oregon. It's the first time I'm at the on
Speaker 5: the trip. We're top ten team. We get there, they
Speaker 5: start shaking the bus because you used to exit at
Speaker 5: Matt Court, right at the front door in front of
Speaker 5: the student section. I get up, stand up to leave,
Speaker 5: and people are waiting, you know, we're getting ordered, and
Speaker 5: the bus door opens and everybody starts screaming and Luke
Speaker 5: gives me a look like he's not ready to go,
Speaker 5: so since I was, he said go ahead and go.
Speaker 5: So I step off the bus and somebody goes, hey, loude,
Speaker 5: bleep you, and then the crowd cheers, and then somebody
Speaker 5: somebody looks up and goes, that's not loot, and then
Speaker 5: somebody else says, well, bleep him too, and the whole
Speaker 5: crowd just cheers and all it was all I could do.
Speaker 5: I had to walk into the building with my head
Speaker 5: down so they couldn't see how hard I was laughing.
Speaker 5: As I got off the bus, walked through the student
Speaker 5: section into MATC Court. I still think, I still think
Speaker 5: to this day that Luke did that on purpose. Yes,
Speaker 5: that's absolutely what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was crazy. That was my favorite place ever,
Speaker 2: not court. You gotta go. Thanks, Rich, appreciate it. Sure, Okay,
Speaker 2: take care. We gotta take a break here. But you
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