Speaker 1: The top football hits the road coming up this weekend
Speaker 1: as a Slide favorite taking on Houston. We'll get back
Speaker 1: to some of the BYU stuff as well as they
Speaker 1: look to continue their undefeated start of the season against
Speaker 1: ucf inn Orlando. But Tom now for our weekly conversation
Speaker 1: with one of the best to ever do it at
Speaker 1: the University of Utah, former igute and NFL player Scott
Speaker 1: Mitchell on a Tuesday, Scott, Happy Tuesday, man, how are
Speaker 1: we doing?
Speaker 2: Not bad? You know, I'm working through the week here,
Speaker 2: some interesting developments up on the hill there, but you
Speaker 2: know it's going to be a new look.
Speaker 3: It is it is, and you're the guy for this.
Speaker 1: So we heard from Mike Pajakian yesterday during media availability
Speaker 1: for the first time Scott, and it's not surprising he
Speaker 1: said this, but he said, look, the system is in place,
Speaker 1: like the system is the system, and they're going to
Speaker 1: be minor tweaks here there. But this is not an
Speaker 1: outside hire. This isn't an OC coming from cal or something.
Speaker 1: This is somebody who's been in house and came here
Speaker 1: to work for Andy. So what's reasonable to expect, Scott,
Speaker 1: in your experience from this new play caller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, with not having a lot of time
Speaker 2: to like implement what you do. I mean, if you're
Speaker 2: a coach, you kind of have your ideas, you have
Speaker 2: your philosophy. He's been around a lot of places, He's
Speaker 2: been exposed to a lot of different offensive philosophies and stuff,
Speaker 2: and the reality is is they're all not really that dissimilar.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of how you call things in the
Speaker 2: verbiage of things is different, but the concepts of offense
Speaker 2: are relatively the same. And so, you know, I think
Speaker 2: he's got a pretty good handle on what Utah does
Speaker 2: and he's smart, and it sounds like he's smart enough
Speaker 2: to realize, you know, you're not going to change a
Speaker 2: whole lot here as far as you know the system.
Speaker 2: It may be some of the plays in the system.
Speaker 2: Maybe he might see that, Look, the tight ends haven't
Speaker 2: been very involved in this. Dorian Singer, money Park, some
Speaker 2: of these really good receivers, you know, have been limited
Speaker 2: in what they're doing, you know, from the passing game.
Speaker 2: Might sit down with Isaac Wilson and say, look, you know,
Speaker 2: let's really be honest here and let's talk about what
Speaker 2: you really like and you're really comfortable with because we
Speaker 2: got to get you going, we got to get you confident,
Speaker 2: we've got to get you out there. So maybe it's
Speaker 2: it's you know, kind of when and what kind of
Speaker 2: calls and who they go to, and maybe some personnel
Speaker 2: groups changed, but the basic core of the offense. They'd
Speaker 2: be extremely foolish to just change all that because then
Speaker 2: no one's going to know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Robbie Berry, the lead, I should just ask you your
Speaker 1: reaction when you heard coach Luod stepped away and your
Speaker 1: reaction to kind of how this played out of the
Speaker 1: course of about you know, forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's something that's been short. It
Speaker 2: certainly felt like something was brewing for some time. And
Speaker 2: why that is, I you know, I don't know whether
Speaker 2: it was that Cam Rising hadn't come back. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you look at the very beginning of the season,
Speaker 2: and you you know, Cam Rising plays half a game,
Speaker 2: looks great, trolls five touchdown passes. Next game against Baylor,
Speaker 2: they just come out, they're they're just really on the
Speaker 2: same page and they're clicking, and then Cam gets injured
Speaker 2: and then it just didn't look good after that, and
Speaker 2: I think this season would be completely different. Uh, if
Speaker 2: if that wasn't the case and and Cam was was available,
Speaker 2: But you know, it's not that way. And for me,
Speaker 2: you know, my feeling, this personal feeling about it and
Speaker 2: my you know, to answer your question about you know what,
Speaker 2: what's my my feeling about it, it's it's never fun.
Speaker 2: Like I've been through this as a player. I had
Speaker 2: a coach in the NFL just quit, Uh, Bruce Coslet
Speaker 2: quit after the third game of the year when I
Speaker 2: was with the Cincinnati Bengals my first year there. And
Speaker 2: that was horrible, you know, because because you you have
Speaker 2: there's so much time that goes into the preparation of
Speaker 2: things that to have someone quit it's just really hard
Speaker 2: to kind of pull everything together. And on top of it,
Speaker 2: you develop a relationship with people. We spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time with them. You're sitting in there. You spend
Speaker 2: a lot of time sitting in meetings, and you have practices,
Speaker 2: and you're in games, and you know, you go to
Speaker 2: a hotel every weekend and you have meetings in that
Speaker 2: hotel as you while you're waiting for the games, you know,
Speaker 2: to and and and as you're preparing for things and you.
Speaker 2: I mean, you spend a lot of time and and
Speaker 2: you've developed these relationships and and when it ends, you know,
Speaker 2: it feels somewhat like a death. You know, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's not a pleasant thing. Uh, you know, no matter what, now,
Speaker 2: there may be some guys right now that are like
Speaker 2: tickle pink because because there's no coach that everyone loves them,
Speaker 2: and there may be guys that go, Okay, maybe I'll
Speaker 2: get a shot to be more involved in things now.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But but there's always that side of
Speaker 2: it too. And regardless, it's just it's just not a
Speaker 2: good situation. It's a it's a bad look and it's
Speaker 2: it's just a bad thing to be to be a
Speaker 2: part of.
Speaker 1: So from a quarterback's perspective, let's hone in now on Isaac,
Speaker 1: you know. And Isaac was interviewed yesterday after practice, and
Speaker 1: I always forget how young he is until I see
Speaker 1: his face and I'm like, oh my gosh, he is
Speaker 1: a child. And he almost looked emotional when talking about Andy.
Speaker 1: So I came here to play for Andy Ludwig. And
Speaker 1: then he said the things you're supposed to say about
Speaker 1: full faith.
Speaker 3: And buying in and such.
Speaker 1: But eighteen years old and you know, you know, a
Speaker 1: month and a half into was first college football season,
Speaker 1: he's already into his second offensive coordinator. What do you
Speaker 1: hope to see in response from Isaac can help us
Speaker 1: understand maybe what's going through his head right now?
Speaker 2: Well, it's hard. It's hard. I imagine it'd be really
Speaker 2: hard for Isaac because he is so young, you know,
Speaker 2: and that maturity level to deal with something this you know,
Speaker 2: grand and dramatic and that that's hard, you know, to
Speaker 2: deal with, and you do. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 2: think of my coaches when I was at Utah and
Speaker 2: and I love the system we were in and I
Speaker 2: couldn't imagine being in anything other than than than that system,
Speaker 2: and it was it was awesome. And and to have
Speaker 2: that kind of be ripped apart, that would that would
Speaker 2: be a little bit ear shattering. And I think there's
Speaker 2: maybe some recruiting that needs to go on, uh with
Speaker 2: with a new coordinator and maybe coach Whittingham about you know,
Speaker 2: keeping Isaac happy and and and confident, because the thing
Speaker 2: that has to happen is Isaac Wilson's got to get
Speaker 2: comfortable and he's got to get confident, and he's got
Speaker 2: to get productive in what's happening with this, with whatever
Speaker 2: is going on in their offense up there. That just
Speaker 2: that just has to happen because him touching the ball
Speaker 2: as much as he does in a game, he has
Speaker 2: such an impact on what what's going to happen in
Speaker 2: a game. You've got to get that guy really comfortable
Speaker 2: and really really confident. And I and I've said this
Speaker 2: before and I really believe it. There needs to be
Speaker 2: a discussion and like, you don't need all of the
Speaker 2: plays in the playbook. You know, everyone says there's the
Speaker 2: full playbook available to this player, and it's like, that's
Speaker 2: a that's I don't think that's a really responsible statement.
Speaker 2: It should be are the plays available that Isaac's really
Speaker 2: confident in running and executing available? Is that available? And
Speaker 2: what is that? And and it's it might be hard
Speaker 2: for an eighteen year old kid to say, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is what I really like, you know, because you know,
Speaker 2: be having a mature because he may just say, well
Speaker 2: I like everything, I don't care he just call it,
Speaker 2: I'll just I'll just run it kind of thing. But
Speaker 2: you really don't like everything, And so there just has
Speaker 2: to be that kind of conversation going back and forth
Speaker 2: about Okay, what do you really like? What can you
Speaker 2: really do here? And Mike pa Jacon is a guy
Speaker 2: that you know, he's been around a lot of places
Speaker 2: and you know, and so he should have and he's
Speaker 2: been the quarterback coach, so there is that relationship there,
Speaker 2: and he should have a pulse at least on the
Speaker 2: players and what's what they can do and what they
Speaker 2: can work with and and maybe he's had a perspective
Speaker 2: on why this hasn't worked and and maybe he has
Speaker 2: a good solution. I don't know. I don't know anything
Speaker 2: about him, but you know I would I would hope that,
Speaker 2: you know, he has an ability to to at least
Speaker 2: put them in a position to be more productive than
Speaker 2: they've been. I mean, that shouldn't be too hard because
Speaker 2: they've been terrible.
Speaker 1: Sure, so let's dig in there, and your last part
Speaker 1: is the best point. I mean, there's nowhere to go
Speaker 1: but up, because if it gets worse, then other questions
Speaker 1: need to be asked that I don't think people are
Speaker 1: ready for. But so let me follow up though about
Speaker 1: what you just said concerning Mike Jakian, because look, Andy
Speaker 1: Ludwig's resume is far superior to Mike's.
Speaker 3: I'm not bringing that up as a knock.
Speaker 1: You know, Northwestern offense is final three seasons, they're ranking
Speaker 1: total offense one twentieth, one twenty third, and one twenty.
Speaker 3: Fourth in yards per play.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time understanding, like Mike says yesterday,
Speaker 1: the system is the system. I have a hard time
Speaker 1: understanding what Mike can figure out that Andy Ludwig couldn't.
Speaker 3: Can you help me understand that? Or is it simply
Speaker 3: just a new voice?
Speaker 1: Oftentimes when I hear they need a new voice, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that feels like an excuse for players not executing him
Speaker 1: playing hard, Like, how real is it when it's just
Speaker 1: a new voice? And what can he figure out that
Speaker 1: a guy like Andy Ludwig apparently could not?
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, there's a lot of like speculation. I'm about
Speaker 2: ready to say because because I I don't I don't
Speaker 2: know that anyone knows that answer. But like, and I'm
Speaker 2: just talking about the situation. I'm not talking about you know,
Speaker 2: does he does he have better answers than Andy Ludwig?
Speaker 2: I mean, look at what Andy Ludwig did. I mean,
Speaker 2: he helped Utah win a couple of conference championships. He uh,
Speaker 2: he coached in some big games. He helped him to
Speaker 2: an undefeated season. He's had the longest tenure with Kyle Whittingham.
Speaker 2: He's been a very successful coordinator. But why did he quit?
Speaker 2: And did and did he really quit, you know, or
Speaker 2: were there other other circumstances that maybe forced him to
Speaker 2: quit and and and that that's that's a long conversation
Speaker 2: if we're going to get into that one. And but
Speaker 2: so so maybe it's not you know, it's it's just
Speaker 2: like Kyle's probably going, this is the best I can
Speaker 2: come up with in a short period of time. I
Speaker 2: can't go out and find someone to do this. It's
Speaker 2: the guy that's probably had the most experienced calling plays
Speaker 2: that uh you know that's on our staff. I mean
Speaker 2: if you look at their offensive staff. I mean the
Speaker 2: other guy that may you know is a Jim Harding.
Speaker 2: I mean Jim Harding. I don't know if he's ever
Speaker 2: been a coordinator because it's a different thing, Like it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: what what player are you gonna call here? And what
Speaker 2: what player are you gonna call here? And uh, you know,
Speaker 2: if you if you haven't had experience with it, and
Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, it's a it's it can
Speaker 2: be a thing. I mean, you know, for me, when
Speaker 2: I played, I I knew what I liked. Like I
Speaker 2: I was taught that from a very early standpoint, what
Speaker 2: do you like on first down? And why? What do
Speaker 2: you like on third and short? What do you like
Speaker 2: in the red? What are you like in all these situations?
Speaker 2: But I understood what I liked and I understood why
Speaker 2: I liked it. I don't know that they're there yet
Speaker 2: with it, but I think they're just trying to do
Speaker 2: the best with the circumstances that they're in. I don't
Speaker 2: you know that. I don't know if it's going to
Speaker 2: be better or worse, but I think that's just where
Speaker 2: it goes. Because I to answer your question in the
Speaker 2: simple terms, I don't think he does know more about
Speaker 2: what's a better option than Andy Ludwig.
Speaker 1: At this point, I got to follow up, Scott, because
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're saying a lot without saying the thing.
Speaker 1: So I mean, we're in the space. That's the great
Speaker 1: thing about sports socc radio. It's not a tweet and
Speaker 1: it's not a column. You can talk about the possibilities.
Speaker 1: So when you're going in that gray area where you
Speaker 1: stop short of actually saying the thing, what's the thing
Speaker 1: you want to say, it's okay to say the thing
Speaker 1: you want to say.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Okay, let's talk about a scenario.
Speaker 2: Coach Whittingham isn't going to coach forever. They named a
Speaker 2: coach in waiting and in Morgan Scalley, and Morgan Scalley.
Speaker 2: Maybe Morgan Scalley goes and he's not my guy, and
Speaker 2: maybe Kyle and and and again, I hate this, but
Speaker 2: this is pure speculation. Okay, this is not I don't
Speaker 2: know anything. I don't know a thing, just so we're clear,
Speaker 2: but it's just it's just my brain thinking about this.
Speaker 2: And clearly the offense isn't working, and so maybe it's like, well,
Speaker 2: let's give someone else to try here, a fresh face,
Speaker 2: a new face, and see what you know then, because
Speaker 2: maybe maybe this might be coach winning Hams last year,
Speaker 2: and maybe he's kind of he's the one that's going
Speaker 2: to take the bullet for this, and so so Morgan
Speaker 2: doesn't have to down the road and Morgan can kind
Speaker 2: of go, yeah, I like this guy. I think he's
Speaker 2: got a chance here or or then Morgan. Maybe next
Speaker 2: year Morgan, if he's the coach goes, I know that
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to look somewhere else to get
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator. I mean, it's a scenario. It's just
Speaker 2: my opinion. It's not anything I know. But uh, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of reasons why they make a change or
Speaker 2: made a change, and that certainly could be could be
Speaker 2: one of them. That's all. That's really what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that that's that far fetched. And
Speaker 1: it's also simply fair to say there are contractual ramifications
Speaker 1: to terminology when somebody is no longer employed, And it's
Speaker 1: different if you say he stepped down as opposed to
Speaker 1: he's fired. So look like you, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever seen coach wit be as
Speaker 1: front facing about potential changes as he was. You know,
Speaker 1: during media after the game, you could see the frustration.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not saying that that was a
Speaker 1: decision there was anyone other than Andy's, you know, by
Speaker 1: his own accord, because that's what we've been told. But
Speaker 1: we've been told a lot of things that aren't necessarily true.
Speaker 1: And I do think it's fair to wonder whether or
Speaker 1: not this was a change that was gently forced upon
Speaker 1: him as opposed to completely being left in his own hands.
Speaker 1: That's fine to wonder aloud whether or not that's the case.
Speaker 2: Well, it looks you know, it looks good from the outside, like, hey,
Speaker 2: we weren't getting it done. I'm responsible for that, so
Speaker 2: I need to step down. And maybe that helps you
Speaker 2: moving forward, you know, getting a new job, as opposed
Speaker 2: to while I was fired and and and you know,
Speaker 2: and everything. You know, So maybe the separation and how
Speaker 2: it's termed and and how everyone speaks about it is
Speaker 2: a way that everyone can go forward and not have
Speaker 2: it acrimonious and and everyone's you know, spitting on the
Speaker 2: other guy's face or whatever, because because I don't care
Speaker 2: what to say. These are never pleasant experiences when when
Speaker 2: this happens. But the coaching world is uh, you know,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if inbred is the right word.
Speaker 2: But but these guys, you know, they they spend they
Speaker 2: end up, you know. I mean, this is the second
Speaker 2: time for Andy being here at Utah, so I'm sure
Speaker 2: they like to keep it cordial and it's kind of professional,
Speaker 2: and it is you know, it's it's just a business decision.
Speaker 2: But I think I think Kyle's been frustrated for some time. Uh.
Speaker 2: And and by some time time, I mean all the
Speaker 2: way back to last year and and and the frustration
Speaker 2: could have stemmed from, Okay, well we didn't get Cam back.
Speaker 2: Well what about all these other guys? You know, we
Speaker 2: we haven't been able to develop a solid backup situation
Speaker 2: for for the quarterback position, and you know, in quite
Speaker 2: some time, and we weren't really prepared for it. And
Speaker 2: the guys that played were you know, not ready or
Speaker 2: unacceptable solutions or unproductive solutions. And and that does fall
Speaker 2: on Andy. I mean he was the guy that was
Speaker 2: specifically designated as the national recruiter of quarterbacks at Utah,
Speaker 2: and and he was the guy that you know, brought
Speaker 2: these these other players in and and and they none
Speaker 2: none of them really panned out, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: he inherited Cam, but uh, you know, he didn't have
Speaker 2: a suitable solution last year and this year when when
Speaker 2: something happened to Cam rising.
Speaker 1: Scott you know as well as anybody, this is about
Speaker 1: one thing in this space and in the stratosphere, it's
Speaker 1: about results, period.
Speaker 3: That's all it's about. That's all it's ever about.
Speaker 1: And there really isn't a ton of space in the moment.
Speaker 1: When your offense is essentially ranked near the bottom of
Speaker 1: every major statistical category for flowers that were given to
Speaker 1: you in the past, we want to know what's going
Speaker 1: on now. And it's fair to say, and Andy would
Speaker 1: be the first to say this, it hasn't been good
Speaker 1: enough this year, it wasn't good.
Speaker 3: Enough last year.
Speaker 1: And ultimately I would not blame coach Wit if this
Speaker 1: was something that he was pushing for, but they're really
Speaker 1: good friends, and that brings in a complication. So of
Speaker 1: course he wants to do right by Andy by letting
Speaker 1: him go out in style and in grace. And there
Speaker 1: will be a time where we all look back and say, man,
Speaker 1: Andy Ludwig potentially was the best offensive coordinator of this
Speaker 1: generation of Utah football. He deserves a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for that. But the end wasn't good enough. And there
Speaker 1: are very few coaches that have enough built in equity
Speaker 1: to survive a year and a half of anemic performance.
Speaker 3: That's what it's been.
Speaker 1: And and so he was given space, he was given rope,
Speaker 1: and he did a great job once upon a time,
Speaker 1: but it hasn't been good enough. And if this was
Speaker 1: something Kyle wanted, I don't know that I would have
Speaker 1: blamed him.
Speaker 2: Well, and here's here's another thing to consider too, is
Speaker 2: all coaches, all head coaches, have a philosophy, right, and
Speaker 2: Kyle's is really run first. It's really catered towards the defense. Uh.
Speaker 2: He's he's realized in recent years he needs to be
Speaker 2: more explosive on offense. But but his his core belief
Speaker 2: is we got to run the football. And you hear
Speaker 2: it weekend and week out. We got to run the football.
Speaker 2: We got to stop the run. And that never changes,
Speaker 2: never changes with coach winning him and that might bump
Speaker 2: up against maybe the philosophy of your offensive coordinator goes
Speaker 2: I think we need to throw it more. I think
Speaker 2: we need to be more explosive, or I think we
Speaker 2: need to and and and he made you know, so
Speaker 2: there could be a difference of philosophy in uh with
Speaker 2: a coordinator too, and that and that can create some
Speaker 2: of the some of the you know less production. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: the coach wants to run the ball, We're going to
Speaker 2: run the ball. And the problem, quite frankly as I've
Speaker 2: watched every single play you know, for the last eight years,
Speaker 2: teams are defending Utah differently, and with every young quarterback
Speaker 2: Utah has put in the game, they put more guys
Speaker 2: in the box than you can block. They're basically daring
Speaker 2: and forcing Utah to throw the football, and they're putting
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure both in the run game, where
Speaker 2: they're making it really hard to run and they're making
Speaker 2: it really hard to throw because they're they're getting pressure
Speaker 2: on these on these young quarterbacks and they're they're not
Speaker 2: consistently they've not been able to handle it. And so
Speaker 2: that's that to me, really is the crux of the
Speaker 2: issue is Utah hasn't been able to handle what these
Speaker 2: defenses have been doing to it with these young quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to something you said earlier
Speaker 1: when we were discussing the difference potentially that Jaking can
Speaker 1: make now that he's in as the play caller, and
Speaker 1: you made a really good point about it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: opening up the playbook entirely, it's finding the plays that
Speaker 1: work for your personnel. We have seen moments from Isaac,
Speaker 1: we have now it hasn't been consistently good enough from anybody,
Speaker 1: including the play caller and the quarterback and everybody.
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody needs to play better.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt I'm not singling anybody out, but I
Speaker 1: do want to point out that we've seen moments from Isaac,
Speaker 1: you know, the touchdown passed to when he parks, he
Speaker 1: had a bullet to Dorian Singer, a couple of Caleb
Speaker 1: Blona finds as well. So when you see Isaac have
Speaker 1: those moments, what sort of play calling are you seeing
Speaker 1: in those moments and what sort of plays can Mike
Speaker 1: put in a place to accentuate the strengths that we
Speaker 1: all see in moments from Isaac Wilson.
Speaker 2: A lot of the plays where he's had success, it's
Speaker 2: been a really kind of clear read for him as
Speaker 2: far as who he's going to. And you know, when
Speaker 2: you get into maybe some more complicated decision making processes,
Speaker 2: for example, the intercept and against Oklahoma State when he
Speaker 2: threw the ball down the sideline and the safety intercepted
Speaker 2: the ball like that should have never ever happened, and
Speaker 2: and that was and so he's kind of but it
Speaker 2: requires a little bit more of a complex read, like
Speaker 2: the guy he was going to was his first read
Speaker 2: and and he really should have come to his third
Speaker 2: read and and and so he just wasn't completely confident
Speaker 2: with that. And what it forces you to do is
Speaker 2: you're kind of tentative when you're when you're in the
Speaker 2: pocket because you have to hold the ball longer. And
Speaker 2: then and then and you're trying to read the play
Speaker 2: and and and dissect what the defense is doing, and
Speaker 2: and then and then here comes the pressure, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's too late. And so when he's had things
Speaker 2: where a lot of quicker reads, simpler reads, uh, get
Speaker 2: the ball out quick and early. You watch TCU and
Speaker 2: and they're really good at that. You know they're because
Speaker 2: and they're one of the better teams in the country
Speaker 2: throwing the football, and which is why Utah hold them
Speaker 2: to only thirteen points. Was really good. But but they're
Speaker 2: really really clear, really simple, really easy quick reads, get
Speaker 2: the ball out fast and off you go. And and
Speaker 2: and so maybe seeing more of that, and it's in
Speaker 2: Utah's offense, and so much of it, Spence is on
Speaker 2: first down. You know, if you can win on first down,
Speaker 2: and that's where Utah, you know, they're not winning on
Speaker 2: third down. And a lot of it's because they're not
Speaker 2: winning on first down. And where you win, you win
Speaker 2: on first down, you have a productive play. You you know,
Speaker 2: you're coming right out off the field onto the field,
Speaker 2: and the quarterback has a good, successful play right out
Speaker 2: of the shoots. It just brings a lot of confidence.
Speaker 2: But if you and if you get a lot of
Speaker 2: people involved early in the game, they get confident, they
Speaker 2: get more into the game, and and you know, and
Speaker 2: you and so finding getting the ball to your your
Speaker 2: like your your playmakers quickly, simple reads, succeed faster on
Speaker 2: first down. Then then second down becomes very manageable. And
Speaker 2: third down you really kind of want to limit your
Speaker 2: third downs. You want to go first down, second down
Speaker 2: to first down again, or first down to first down,
Speaker 2: and you want to try to stay out a third
Speaker 2: down as you're moving the ball down the field as
Speaker 2: you can, or if you're in third down it's third
Speaker 2: and short, it's third and we can run it or
Speaker 2: throw it here, whatever we want to do. Anythings that
Speaker 2: are disposal because now the defense goes, well, we don't
Speaker 2: you know, but when they when they know it's third
Speaker 2: and long, they pin their ears back or they blitch you,
Speaker 2: they do whatever and they're and they're dictating the terms
Speaker 2: of everything, and so that to me, like just seems
Speaker 2: like the simple solution. And I know it's in that
Speaker 2: offense right now, and and it really requires the involvement
Speaker 2: of the tight ends. It requires involvement of these receivers
Speaker 2: moved in different positions than maybe where they are and
Speaker 2: and I don't and it and it and it can
Speaker 2: be really simple to do too, So that that would
Speaker 2: that would be what I would do with a young
Speaker 2: quarterback like Isaac, just giving these simple quick reads, get
Speaker 2: the ball out, get the ball in your playmaker's hands
Speaker 2: so he's not sitting there holding and trying to figure
Speaker 2: everything out.
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Scott, appreciate the time. Travel safety, Houston. We'll
Speaker 1: chat soon.
Speaker 2: Okay, you got it, thank you.
Speaker 3: All right there he is, Scott Mitchell