WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.919 And Bart's gonna hang out with us. So how was 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:06.799 the night for you and the better half in Brookhaven? 3 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:09.080 Well, I'll correct you a little bit. 4 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:15.439 I'm in Lindberghnkay, So I am right. I am about 5 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:20.160 one hundred and twenty yards northwest of the confluence of 6 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:25.280 the Peachtree Creek North and South Fork. Literally the confluence 7 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:27.879 trail is on the other side of my apartment complex. 8 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:31.640 But so that is the creek that's been causing all 9 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:35.079 the problems here in Atlanta. But here in Lindbergh we 10 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:38.240 are fine now. Literally right across the street. 11 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:40.640 Of Piedmont and between Peedont and Peach Tree is where 12 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:45.119 all that flooding is happening. But we are dry, safe, 13 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:45.880 and electrified. 14 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:49.560 So thank you for that this morning, yes, and well 15 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.719 hoping that you are safely electrified, because you don't want 16 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:59.039 to be dry, safe and electricized. You want to be 17 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.320 you don't want to be electrified. And I out outdoor 18 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:04.519 environs all the watching all the live shots. 19 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:06.760 I do have multiple bottles of wine that now I'm 20 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:08.680 not I don't know if I should drink this weekend 21 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.000 or you know, just save up for the next rainy day. 22 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.879 Well, let me let me. Then let me ask you this, 23 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:16.879 what's West Virginia got this this this week? 24 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:21.280 We play Oklahoma State tomorrow at four p m. And luckily, 25 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:24.040 if if all things are are okay, I'll be watching 26 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:27.359 with my fellow mountaineers, Peach State Mountaineers up at last 27 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:28.760 Fir's tavern and finings. 28 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:30.760 So that is the hopeful plan. 29 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:34.159 Well, I was gonna say, with with with with all 30 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:36.480 of the veno that could be keno that you have, 31 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:39.079 I mean, that's why, that's why I was asking about 32 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:41.799 the take the over I think is the safe play 33 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:46.280 when it comes to the tot Oklahoma State and West 34 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:49.640 Virginia always to me, Yeah, that one to me stood 35 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:54.120 out with everything. Uh, you reached out yesterday, and I 36 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:58.959 wanted to spend more substantive time with the reffing down 37 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:02.359 here moments and getting into the arguments about penalty kicks 38 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:06.840 and keepers keeping their stationary status and things like that. 39 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.520 Which element in reffing down here? Did you want to 40 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.479 tackle first? As we walked through reffing down here on 41 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:14.400 a Friday. 42 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.319 Well, there are two, so I'll preface it with that 43 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:20.199 main ones. The first is from the Campion News Cup final, 44 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.400 that penalty kick shootout, and the other one is from 45 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.599 the Open Cup final, the goal that opened the scoring 46 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.639 in the game. Let's start with a penalty kicks shootout 47 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:30.159 because I think it's a little clear cut. I think 48 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:34.919 people understand what we're saying here, but talking heads on 49 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.319 Twitter somehow don't, and I think that's the concern. 50 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:39.719 John, Okay, go for it. 51 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:45.080 So obviously in the final, well I guess yeah, it 52 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:48.000 was a final penalty kick for Columbus, the one that 53 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.719 missed off the crossbar, which counts as the same for 54 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:57.599 a goalkeeper in the context of vibes, but it does 55 00:02:57.680 --> 00:02:59.400 not count as a same in the context of the 56 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:02.120 laws of the game. And that's where we have to 57 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.120 look at this, this law of the game. So when 58 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.240 we talk about determining the outcome of a match, we 59 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.800 got a penalty kick shootouts. As they call it an 60 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:14.360 ipab kicks from the mark, which is a lame name. 61 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.560 Just call it a p K shootout. That sounds like 62 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:20.879 what BAM is going through with the Grand Final coming up. 63 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:32.039 Yes, kicks from the So it is true though, but 64 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:34.719 you know, so that is how we determine the outcome 65 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:36.840 of a match, and basically that means we go to 66 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:41.960 an extensive application of Law fourteen. 67 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:42.759 The penalty kick. 68 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:47.000 Now we're all familiar with the procedure should be. But 69 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:50.879 you know, I think one of the questions we have 70 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:51.919 is there is. 71 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:53.759 The line. 72 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:56.759 The defending goalkeeper must remain on the goal line, facing 73 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.960 the kicker between the gold coasts until the ball is 74 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.680 kick the goalpost. The goalkeeper must not behave in a 75 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:07.719 way that unfairly distracts the kicker, example, delay the taking 76 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.800 of the kick, or touch the goalpost, crossbar, or net. Right, 77 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:13.759 So we have more rules about what the goalkeeper can 78 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:15.639 and can't do than what the kick can do, because 79 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.560 they can run to Ebo Jima and back and take 80 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:23.279 a penalty kick and finally, apparently that's fine, pause for 81 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:28.759 seven minutes and finish a sandwich and yeah. 82 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:30.680 But so that's what we know. 83 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:32.199 We know that those are the things, right, So I 84 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:35.680 think the question here is obviously the Club America goalkeeper 85 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:39.000 John and you can you could attest he was off 86 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:44.600 his line, yes when the kick was taken, which everyone screams, oh, 87 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.439 that means we have to retake it. That is not 88 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:51.360 what the laws of the Game's say. 89 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:56.240 If the goalkeeper offends, if the ball enters the. 90 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.839 Goal, a goal is awarded, right, So that happens a 91 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:02.600 lot where the goalkeeper comes off as line, and I 92 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:04.319 think that actually happened a couple of times in the 93 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:06.399 shootout where the ball still out in the back of 94 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:06.639 the net. 95 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:10.079 Right, if the ball misses the goal. 96 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:15.240 Or rebounds from the crossbar or goal posts, the kick 97 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:21.120 has only retaken if the goalkeeper's offense clearly impacted the kicker. 98 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.319 So that's kind of that key phrase there, John, And 99 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.839 we do get an example of crossbar or goalposts, right which. 100 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:32.439 The kick to hit the crossbar very loudly. 101 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:38.800 Yeah you go crying, Yes, Yeah, definitely. I think we 102 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.560 would all agree that the goalkeeper just taking a half 103 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:47.759 step off his line did not impact either the kicker 104 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:48.720 or the result of the kick. 105 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:49.560 Would you agree with that? 106 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.399 I would agree, I would stipulated that, yeah, And. 107 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:53.519 So that's just where the confusion is is because there 108 00:05:53.560 --> 00:06:00.000 was no impact. It's very similar to, you know, if 109 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:03.439 I don't want to say it's an advantage because it's 110 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:07.319 not quite the right word, but sometimes things happen in 111 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:10.920 soccer that aren't actually impacting the game and we kind 112 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:13.319 of let them go, similar to you know, maybe earling 113 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.759 Holland throwing the ball against the defender's head. That was 114 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.480 just zero power to doudicateor or do anything about. 115 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.879 John, Yes, abrue. 116 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:23.600 No, I joke. 117 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:25.319 But really what we're looking for there is did the 118 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:29.680 goalkeeper I don't know, for example, rush the kicker right? Yeah, 119 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:35.240 run up at the kicker, and that would exactly. That's 120 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:42.160 really the only offense that we have where the result 121 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.040 of the kick is is. 122 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:49.160 Not really important right now, If the goalkeeper saves it, 123 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:51.079 we retake it. 124 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:52.560 Then you've got an issue. 125 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:54.360 But all the others I mean, so if a teammate 126 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.399 of the goalkeeper offense or a teammate of the kicking 127 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:57.720 team defends. 128 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.079 They're damn fast outside the eight team, right. 129 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:04.800 We do have to say if the defending team steps 130 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:08.279 into the box early right, but the goal the ball 131 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.040 goes in, okay, well we don't do anything. But if 132 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.839 he misses, no matter what, if he misses, we can 133 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:17.040 take the rekick right. Same with an attacking player. If 134 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:21.079 if the attacking team goes into the box right and 135 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:23.720 the goalkeeper or the kicker makes it, then we have 136 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:24.399 to retake it. 137 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:25.279 Now, if. 138 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:33.800 The teammate comes into the box and the kicker kicks 139 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:35.759 the ball out of bounds for a goal kick, then 140 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:38.399 we don't retake that. So this is a little bit 141 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.519 weird because it is the only time where like the 142 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.560 actual result of the kick, granted that has to be missed, 143 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:50.360 isn't contingent on an offense. So the one slight advantage 144 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:52.519 goalkeepers have in the penalty kickshoot out. 145 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:56.879 And that was the the element here. I think that 146 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:58.959 people are sitting there and going it's like, well, he's 147 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:02.439 off off his line that he had, he has infringed 148 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:05.000 upon the play. Therefore it's got to be a rekick. 149 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.040 But I would I would look at it this way 150 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:11.040 for those who are are still trying to navigate the 151 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.959 laws of the game. Think about it in an American 152 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:18.240 football sense, where you have a play, it's a long 153 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:22.240 completion and the defender of the cornerback or the safety 154 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.319 still commits pass interference. True, you have the opportunity to 155 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.240 either take the play or take the penalty or and 156 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:32.200 you know, take the fifteen yards or something like that. 157 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:33.519 So you have the option of the play and the 158 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:36.320 completion or the penalty in and of itself. You're gonna 159 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:38.600 take the You're gonna take the completion because it was 160 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:41.559 longer than what the penalty would be a you know, 161 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:45.519 fifteen yard spotfoul or whatever. So you're in those kinds 162 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:47.759 of in those kinds of navigations. Think of it almost 163 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:51.080 like in an American football sense, where yeah, you can 164 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:54.360 take either the play or the penalty, whichever is longer, 165 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:56.720 and you're gonna take You're gonna take the you're gonna 166 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:59.759 take the completion as opposed to the penalty. Something like that. Yes, 167 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:00.639 it's similar. 168 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.399 It's just it is weird, I understand, because it's the 169 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.679 one time where an offence doesn't really impact whether we 170 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:10.120 take the kick or not, because well, the kicker missed 171 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:13.840 and John I think you know, Jarrett talked about this yesterday. 172 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:16.120 Kickers, if you're missing a penalty kick. 173 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:20.159 With all the stipulations a goalkeeper have and all the 174 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.080 allowances you have the ability to start and stop the 175 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:26.519 stutter stuff, the all the run ups you can do, 176 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:31.039 and the goalkeeper not being able to truly as much 177 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.639 as I mean, I'll talk about Patrick Schulte in a 178 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.960 little bit, but both did a job and the penalty 179 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.120 kick shootout. But even if you read and guess and 180 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:44.039 react the right way, you still got to rely on 181 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:47.120 a terrible penalty kick from the other team to save it. 182 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.879 And so I'm sure Greg Garza could talk about this 183 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:54.159 of coaching up kids to take a penalty kick. But kids, 184 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.559 I gotta tell you, put the ball into the corner. 185 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.320 I mean, you're gonna make it. 186 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:00.080 Give us some pay. 187 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:04.639 Put it, you know, mid height, put it into the corner. Personally, 188 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:08.480 I always aimed for, uh literally the side netting because 189 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.159 from twelve yards out you can kind of see that 190 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:15.159 pretty well. And about shoulder height is probably good for 191 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.360 you and you're you're probably going to score ninety eight 192 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:19.039 percent of the time. 193 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.600 Yep. By the way, I not knowing what our power 194 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.039 situation was going to be, I gave the our friends 195 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:29.039 from Beyond Goals the week off so you and I 196 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.480 can rock and roll for a while here, okay. Uh So, 197 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.440 And to your point about penalty kicks, I think that 198 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:39.559 this is also something in the laws of the game 199 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.320 that probably should continue to be looked at addressed because 200 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:45.240 of the public queue and cry over the whole thing 201 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.840 about starts and stops. Now, I agree, John, walk you through, 202 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:53.039 walk me through laws of the game, because people sit 203 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:56.000 there and and I know this will play well for radio. 204 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.639 But you've got you've got folks that want to sit 205 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:00.679 there and they want to get a their their quick 206 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:02.519 little start that they want to they want to do 207 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:06.039 their thing, and then they want to they'll run up 208 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:08.320 and then they'll stop, and it almost looks like they're 209 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:10.200 gonna come to a full stop, and then they keep 210 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.399 going and then it's like starts and stops and it's 211 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:16.200 almost like learning. How like when we're fifteen and our 212 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.720 and our and our parent takes us to the empty 213 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:20.559 parking lot to try to learn how to drive a 214 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.320 clutch for the first time, and it's like, you know, 215 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.679 you just you know, the engine stalls. Those kinds of things. 216 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:31.519 The breakdown of starting stopping. If you are the player 217 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:38.720 taking the penalty kick, what constitutes movement, what doesn't constitute movement, 218 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.240 what's good, what's bad? What's allowed? Walk me through that side. 219 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.159 Since we've gone in between the sticks, let's go to 220 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:47.879 the spot. Walk me through that in the laws of 221 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:49.919 the game, even though we know they should be checked. 222 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:53.480 Well, And this is the issue, is there's not a 223 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:55.600 whole lot in the current laws of the game about 224 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:59.879 what a kicker can or can't do, you know, looking 225 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.720 we Law fourteen again. The penalty kick, the procedure. Really, 226 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.639 we have a couple of things that we have to 227 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:08.159 do before the penalty kick has taken. We have to 228 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.120 make sure the ball is stationary with part of the 229 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.320 ball touching or overhanging the center of the penalty mark, 230 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:18.679 and the goal post, crossbar and goal neet not be moving. Okay, 231 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.840 that's pretty standard, but that does also again affect the goalkeeper. Right, 232 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.679 A lot of times you've seen goalkeepers hit the crossbar, 233 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:30.600 the that all that kind of stuff. So you know, 234 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:35.440 there's that The player taking the penalty kick must be 235 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:36.679 clearly identified. 236 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.279 We haven't really ever had that issue truly, but that. 237 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.480 Is another one that we do have to be like, yeah, 238 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:46.919 you know number taking the penalty kick, and that means 239 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.679 that number seven can't then run up and. 240 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:55.720 Take the penalty kick. The players taking the penalty kick 241 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.120 must kick the ball forward. 242 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:04.559 I've never known a I've never known a penalty kicker 243 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:05.120 to kicks. 244 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:06.279 That's it. 245 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:10.799 That's it, John, That's that is the the end all 246 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:14.120 be all of that. There's some more like the player 247 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.639 must take the ball back. Healing is allowed as long 248 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.879 as it goes forward. The kicker must not touch the 249 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:26.399 ball again until it has touched another player. So literally, 250 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.200 that's that's it, which is which is the problem, right 251 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.279 because in past iterations of the laws of the game, 252 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.360 we did have the idea that it needs to be 253 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.840 uh I forget the exact wording, but basically a continuous 254 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:44.919 run up you know us, once they start their kick 255 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:46.600 that must complete it. 256 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:51.200 Basically, that's kind of the issue is that. 257 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:57.759 The the stipulations on kickers has been stripped away while 258 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:01.440 we've added way more stipulations on the goalkeeper. Now, the 259 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:06.480 theory for that in normal play makes sense if you 260 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:09.960 think about it. Right in regulation time, in the ninety 261 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:13.720 minutes that you might be playing. The penalty kick is 262 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:20.960 a penalty for a direct kick foul inside the penalty area. Correct, 263 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:25.440 That is the point of a penalty kicks will stimulate 264 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:29.600 to that It is supposed to be punishment for the 265 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:34.240 offending team committing a foul, a direct kick foul inside 266 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:39.240 the penalty area. So the fact that you have advantages 267 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:42.799 giving to the attacking team who were fouled inside the 268 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.519 penalty area makes a whole lot of sense, right. I 269 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:49.440 think that's that is understood to be the reason behind 270 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:56.840 strict the boundaries on what the goalkeeper can do, and 271 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.200 not as strict for what the. 272 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:02.159 Kicker can do. 273 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.320 Now, we do have a lot of strict boundaries on 274 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.000 the players not involved. Obviously they have to be outside 275 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.279 the penalty area, behind the ball and behind the penalty arc, 276 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.879 and we are very strict on don't come into the box. 277 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:15.600 I think we should just make it electrified. 278 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:21.039 Speaking of that, what is it that they have for dogs, 279 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:21.879 the electric fence. 280 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:25.679 Yes, exactly, do something like that. But other than that, 281 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:29.240 the kickers don't have a whole lot of stipulations on them, 282 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.440 on requirements on them other than kick the ball forward. 283 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.519 And that is because in normal time, a penalty kick 284 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.960 is meant to be a literal penalty against the other team, right, 285 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.320 it is supposed to be punishment. Now, the problem I 286 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.320 think we all have with this, John is that when 287 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:47.120 we get into tournament settings and we have kicks from 288 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:54.120 the mark, it does give the kicker a grossly unfair 289 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:59.879 advantage in what shouldn't be such an imbalance of it 290 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:00.799 of advantages. 291 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:08.039 Just you basically is what we're staring at, uh you. 292 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:12.799 And so obviously, since we are we are solution makers 293 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:16.600 here on the show, we believe in it. We believe 294 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:20.000 in fixing things. We fixed. We fixed, We fixed Open 295 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.039 Cup yesterday, We have fixed the All Star Game in 296 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:27.440 years past. And so let's fix Let's fix the wording 297 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:29.759 in the laws of the game when it comes to 298 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:35.679 activity for keepers and penalty kick takers. Let's let's let's 299 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:39.559 fix the l OTG. How how would you address that 300 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:40.559 particular topic. 301 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.440 Well, I think it's just a really I think you 302 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.639 could go back a little bit and add the stipulation 303 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.399 that they must make a continuous run up to the ball, right, 304 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.840 whatever that wording ends up being, but just indicate that 305 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.559 once the motion to take the penalty kick has started, right, 306 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:00.519 you have to keep it now. I I do think 307 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.159 that could also be interpreted to mean once you get 308 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:05.799 your up to the ball, you can't stop and start. 309 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:11.240 So that might rule out Joseph Martinez his favorite trick, yeah, 310 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:14.880 the hop and the hot. But I think that could 311 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:18.759 be the easiest solution, and I don't think that takes 312 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.200 away that much of an advantage from the kicker, to 313 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.039 be quite honest, I'm sorry if you can't run up 314 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:24.480 the ball, strike it and put it in the corner 315 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:25.960 of the net, or put it in the net from 316 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.240 twelve yards out with a goalkeeper who can't move until 317 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:33.799 you kick it. I mean, what's your problem. Yeah, that's 318 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.359 a U problem, not a goalkeeper problem, right, you know 319 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:39.720 so I do think that could be an easy solution, John, 320 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:42.119 And we did have that in prior, like it was 321 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:43.680 there when I first started referering. 322 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:46.559 But that was several years ago. 323 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.559 Uh yeah that was last Tuesday yet two decades Yeah, 324 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:53.759 last Tuesday, Patrick schulte You wanted to discuss Patrick Schultz, 325 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:54.000 I do. 326 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:56.000 Before we move on to the Open Cup final. 327 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.680 Patrick schulte Man has been in He's been the starter 328 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:01.279 for Columbus since two thousand and two. 329 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:02.559 Not the full time, I don't think. 330 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:05.119 But he started starting I don't think he might. 331 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:06.559 I don't think. 332 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.400 It was Alive two two in twenty twenty two, and 333 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:13.960 since then he's been in an MLS Cup final, a 334 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:16.240 US Open Cup final, a League's Cup final, and a 335 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:20.119 Conka CAF Champions Cup final. It's a lot of finals 336 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.240 for a kid who's twenty three. Actually he might be 337 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:26.200 twenty four now sure, I think he may have turned twenty. 338 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:28.400 He's young and basically he's still young. 339 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:28.839 Right. 340 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.480 There is a lot of hand ringing from you know, 341 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.119 Twitter bots. I'll maybe, I don't know if they're bots, 342 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.400 they'd act like it about why Gaga Sloanine is not 343 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:42.799 playing in the Olympics. Why is he not playing? Goga 344 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:45.920 is the best keeper we've ever seen since Tim Howard. 345 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.599 Wait what I like Gaga. I think he's a fine goalkeeper. 346 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:55.519 He had great days in MLS. 347 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:56.160 And Gaga was great in the Stars Born. I mean, 348 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:56.960 I'll give you credit. 349 00:18:57.039 --> 00:18:58.680 Yeah, yeah, she was. 350 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:02.640 But I think there's just something to be said about 351 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.279 a goalkeeper who has literally been there and done that 352 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.640 at twenty four years old, right, four times been in 353 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.599 cup finals and not just like you know, gummy Bear 354 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:16.599 Cup final, which still counts true. 355 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:19.039 Thanks Bropes. I couldn't remember if he was. 356 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:20.480 I know he was one of the older ones in 357 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:24.160 the twenty three, but thank you for the older ones. 358 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:25.759 I mean, right, but that's weird. 359 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:34.480 But anyway, Patrick Shulty very well, maybe, And it's way 360 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:36.559 early to talk about this for real, for real, As 361 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:39.799 anyone will tell you, goalkeepers do develop late. But at 362 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:42.920 twenty three we can start looking at him as the 363 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:45.440 potential next guy for the US MINS national team. I 364 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.119 think it's fair to do that we saw him start 365 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.559 and play a full game under the substitute teacher earlier 366 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:54.920 this month. You know, we're still in September, still my 367 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:55.480 birthday month. 368 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:01.200 There you go, and I think we I think when. 369 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:03.559 You're evaluating goalkeepers, a lot of people just look at 370 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.400 shot stopping, and so when you evaluate the Gaga Sloanino tape. 371 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:09.880 While in Chicago, he got a lot of practice shot stopping. 372 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:12.279 I don't know if you're aware of this, John, but 373 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:16.920 Chicago Fire are tara bad as a club. 374 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:20.519 As a team, Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, And 375 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:20.839 so he. 376 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:23.079 Got a lot of shot stopping practice. So he's making 377 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:24.839 a lot of whiles. I mean, Chris Brady's going through 378 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:26.039 that right now, bless his little heart. 379 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:28.200 I have to remember that. 380 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:34.240 Patrick Schilty doesn't get those opportunities because he's playing for 381 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:37.720 I don't know, John, you might you you could probably 382 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:40.000 corroborate this maybe the best team in the league. I 383 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:42.039 would yea outside of the one with the greatest player 384 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:42.400 in the world. 385 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:45.759 Counselor I will stipulate that they are the greatest team 386 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:46.160 in the league. 387 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:47.799 I would I would argue that they are still the 388 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:50.440 best team even without the best player in the world. 389 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:55.079 I think that just matters. I really do. 390 00:20:55.680 --> 00:21:00.480 He's getting great experience, he's playing real soccer, which I 391 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:01.480 think does matter. 392 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:03.400 He is not real soccer. 393 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:07.759 Name a time Chicago has played real soccer in the 394 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:08.440 past three. 395 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:10.519 I was just, I was just, I wasn't I wasn't 396 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:13.799 linking and Joe Man, Well, and here's the other problem 397 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:15.480 is talk about real soccer. 398 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:17.359 I mean, Gaga's down in League One. They don't they 399 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:19.680 play kickball there, Let's be let's be real honest. 400 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:27.200 Sorry it's but Shulty has had interest from European teams. 401 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:29.079