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from BYU Football. Is we solidify our roster, solidify our staff,

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Speaker 3: Forward into the transfer portal.

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Speaker 3: All that and more. Let's let's get right into it.

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Speaker 4: Let's fire up ESB and the fans starting lineup, and

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January eighth edition of Cougar Sports First and foremost behind

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the glass in Salt Lake City, Let's welcome in Ronald

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good three man.

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Speaker 3: We ever to the show.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Roddy, What's up everybody? How we doing?

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Speaker 6: Bet ben As almost said something else? Goodness gracious forgive

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me forgetting my words and everything mixed up.

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Speaker 5: I'll just say this.

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Speaker 6: Been BTA felt to Booty and the best player on

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BYU's team, say, you know what.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna chill. I'm gonna score my average.

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Speaker 6: I know I needed twenty six to be the nation's

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leading score, but I'm gonna let the other guys who

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already played the big twelve cook and go for.

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Speaker 5: A career highs. That's how great I am. I'm gonna

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throw up my hands on the stretch.

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Speaker 6: Why let him throw around the back passes, hit threes

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in transition? The coaching staff going crazy. Yeah, man, this

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BAU basketball team is something else. I think we can

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start to say it. If they beat Texas Tech this

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weekend and Houston coming up, you might see that Elite eight, Ben,

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping for a final four, get the monkey off

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the back, and I think this is the year. This

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is the time display as long as we stay healthy,

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we stay strong. We've had some attrition, yes, but this

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team is bawling out and the Dot King was cooking

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last night at the Marriage Center. List Welcome in Brett

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always bringing the hammer hammertime show as well to the

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crew here, what's up hammertime you bring up tots, I

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want to talk about another heated pastry of the pop tarts.

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I don't know if you saw John McBride posted on

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Twitter yesterday. I think he was toasting a pop tart

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in the trophy in the office. I would like to

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suggest to BYU a new NIL donation initiative. Let me

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just pay ten bucks to come in toast my pop

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tart and take a picture with it, because I bet

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you if they did that, there would be a line

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around the sab a people wanting to toast their pop

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tarts with this tape. Put out this question on Twitter,

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how much would you pay in uh towards h you

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know the NIL funds or maybe it's bou Athletic apartment

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to have a video picture with the pop tarts bowl

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and maybe you quote tweet the John McBride video or photo.

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Hey cougarnation, how much would you pay to come in

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and toast your pop tarts on this bad boy? See

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where they're at. Let's also welcome in Andrew Peterson to

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the show. Was un ap back from vacation.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back bydation. It feels good. The Bahamas were nice,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was beautiful weather.

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Speaker 4: You come back and it's finally snowing, and Utah haven't

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Speaker 7: Every time we got off the boat is clear, sky's

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perfect weather, eighty degrees.

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Speaker 3: It was wonderful. So I'm back re energized.

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Speaker 7: I did not have service for all ten days that

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chose not to have service, Well, I could not afford

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Speaker 8: It's like thirty bucks per for Wi Fi per day?

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Speaker 3: Is that her day?

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Speaker 7: There is no shot I could pay that. I'm a

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college student with a wife. Yeah, that's not happening, not

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Speaker 8: But I will say I do have some advice.

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Speaker 7: Something I learned about technology on the cruise is that

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you should never take your iPhone snorkeling because it does.

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Speaker 8: Not survive salt water.

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Speaker 7: Oh really, I do have a new phone because I

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forgot to take my iPhone out of my pocket and

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Speaker 3: That's insane. But the last thing I ever watched my phone.

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Speaker 4: You can't buy those little like encasements right where you

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can still use them.

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 7: But the last thing that I ever watched on my

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Speaker 3: K, let's go there.

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Speaker 5: We go literally thirty.

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Speaker 7: Seconds before I stepped on the plane. That's the last

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thing I ever watched on that phone. And I think

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that's a fitting way to go out.

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Speaker 4: That's a fitting way for your your iPhone to die.

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Speaker 5: And one in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Got a new phone. How much was the new phone?

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Did you get like a new contractor.

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Speaker 7: I got a deal where I actually got it for free.

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So okay, it all worked out, It all worked out.

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It was meant to be for the new year, all right.

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Speaker 6: We got a fantastic The only thing I'm mad being

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Speaker 5: That's the only thing. Because of the salt water.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we did lose half the pictures. My wife still

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it than I was, because when it happened, I was like,

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well that kind of stinks.

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Speaker 3: But she was like, what about the pictures.

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Speaker 8: And the videos? And she still got some, but she

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Speaker 3: Of them, not all of them, unfortunately. Guys.

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Speaker 4: Uh, we're gonna delve into all the knicks and crannies,

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all the news and notes. We're gonna go into the

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BYU basketball dub over ASU in the first segment, stay

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tuned okaw anywhere.

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Speaker 3: We'll welcome in Darnelle Dixon.

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Speaker 4: At three ozh five for a little Cougar beet, delving

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into all the nicks and granny's of Cougarnation per the

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purview of Darnelle Dicks in the Daily Heraldium bj Rains

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of Bronco Nation News joining us at three thirty to discuss.

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Speaker 3: To Mario Warren.

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Speaker 4: Blay has acquired a couple of Boise State coaches over

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the last three or four years, one being Kelly Papinga.

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Now to Mario Warren coming into the BYU Cougarnation fold.

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We'll get his thoughts, his commentary, his reaction to the news.

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Ari Tempkin, He's the co host of Big twelve Radio

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Speaker 3: That out at four oh five.

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Speaker 4: At five or five, we'll get into a little handy

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in Handy, a little sports cord, getting into and delving

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into all of the legal drama as it pertains the sports.

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We're gonna have to talk to Mon Williams of the

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University of Washington, definitely delving deep in five the five

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Speaker 3: Are they revocable? Are they?

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Speaker 4: Are you capable of just saying here's my contract, I

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signed it, and then the next day rescinding that and

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leaving and going into the portal and sign it with

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a new squad and new team. If you don't know,

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their collective et cetera. And then the following day entered

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the portal and things are getting a bit dicey. His

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got a convincing beautiful Brigham Young win in the Marriage Center.

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Last night, it was glorious Richie Sonders, Aja to Bonsa

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and Rob Wright combined to score eighty one points as

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the number nine BYU Cougars dominated the Arizona State sun

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Devils one a four to seventy six at the Marriott Center.

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Saunders and Wright finished with career highs, while Debonsa scored

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twenty plus for the eighth straight game as the Cougar

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shot fifty seven point four percent from the field, forty

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five point two percent from the three point line, and

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eighty percent.

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Speaker 3: From the charity stripe.

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Speaker 4: The six foot five senior scored a career high thirty

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one points, going ten to thirteen from the field and

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six of eight from the three point line and five

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of five from the charity stripe. In his last three

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meetings against Arizona State, Saunders is shooting sixty percent from

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beyond the arc eighteen of thirty.

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Speaker 3: Crazy man, that is nuts.

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Speaker 7: So can we start calling Richie Saunders the Exorcist because

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he casts out the sun Devils like nobody else.

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Speaker 3: I like that. I'm down with it. I'm bought in.

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Speaker 4: The Exorcist, Baby, I don't know if he's gonna I

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Speaker 3: The sun devils for the game.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know how much traction it'll gain throughout

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to boot. We'll get into some sound from Ky and

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others here momentarily. But Rob Right the third, also finished

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with a career high as a sophomore, finished with twenty

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seven points to go along with four rebounds and three assists.

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Speaker 3: He went nine to fifteen from the.

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Speaker 4: Field, three of six from three, and six of six

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from the charity stripe for the eighth ra game. Remember,

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Aj has scored twenty points, He's essentially tied. He's second

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in the NCAA in points per game at like twenty

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one point three. Pretty nice work from AJ, as others

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had career highs. Right tied for the eighth longest streak

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in program history. De Bons has scored posted twenty three points,

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seven rebounds, five assists, two steals, and one block. Shout

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out to AJ de Bonce on Wednesday, mark the second

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time this season the Trio has scored twenty points in

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the same game, while their eighty one combined points are

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tied for seventh most in a single game in program history.

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Boom Shaka lockup. Also of note, it wasn't a sickness.

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So we have obviously, you know, Doss Baker and a

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and Cannar Davis.

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Speaker 3: That was a sickness though, right was it? Canard Davis?

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Did he? Did he clarify on Cannard Davis?

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Speaker 6: I don't think Cliff in the post game, but Canard

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did play. He was a game time decision?

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Speaker 5: Did it unplaying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So, but I didn't know if it was you know,

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more of like a soft isssue or as a sickness.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they think it probably is more of

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a sickness because he did play.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, okay, let's get into the sound Kevin Young

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post game after this era dominant Arizona State victory thirty

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one for Richie. He shot at an incredibly high percentage.

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What do you think or what did you think of

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his performance?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 11: I thought he was, you know, super locked in, and

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that's what we talked about coming into the game, our

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approach and practice two days ago. I didn't love and

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I just challenged the group to kind of start the

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game and leave no doubt who was the more focused team.

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I thought he kind of set the stage there. But

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I thought, you know, his scoring was I thought, really

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the product of like our spacing and our unselfishness, and

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then obviously his individual greatness.

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Speaker 1: It was a great night for him. I think it's

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that career high Ritchie thirty.

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Speaker 4: One, awesome boomshoting like a career high for the Todd King.

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Doesn't get any better than that, at least in the

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regular season. Right, you're talking regular season highs, career highs

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in the regular season. Obviously, we want equivalency in the

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NCAA Tournament. March Madness is not too far away, Ladies

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and gentlemen, are we trending in the direction that you feel?

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You feel like in February? This team's built to make

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a Final four run ap Yes.

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Speaker 7: Because the the problem early on in the season, to me,

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there's two It was the slow starts, and it was

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the three point shooting. B Yu has not shot below

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thirty seven and a half percent from three point since

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they played against Clemson, so they've been on a hot

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streak from behind the line. They seem to have solved

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that problem. They're coming together and they haven't started as

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slow as.

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Speaker 3: They did early on in the season.

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Speaker 7: It feels like everything is coming together a lot sooner.

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And the only thing that I'm gonna say that I

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have pause on is that we're only halfway through the

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season and you've already got injuries that are mounting up.

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Speaker 3: You don't want any more there.

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Speaker 7: That's to me, what could stop this team from making

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a deep run.

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Speaker 4: I feel good. Obviously they're on a tear right now.

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Wins against Wisconsin, Miami, Dayton, cal Baptiste, Clemson, you see Riverside, Pacific, Ablin,

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Christian Eastern Washington, Kansas State, and Arizona State, and one

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of those was on.

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Speaker 3: The road in Big Twelve play.

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Speaker 4: Now you got your home opener in Big twelve play

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under your belt, and things are looking therein not eyes.

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How much luxury is it when those three can literally

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outscore an opponent in collective in collective unison.

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Speaker 11: Look, I mean, and this is what I told the group,

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and when we're really trying to just continue to I

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think we formed an identity of how we want to play. Now.

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I think the next step for this group is just

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forming it like having the right approach and mentality that

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gives you the edge to go out and.

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Speaker 1: Be a team that leaves no doubt. Right, that's what

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Speaker 11: Like we watched that game, there was no doubt how

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focused our guys were. And when those three guys in

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particular have that with their talent and the unselfishness that

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they play the game with, sky's the limit not only

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for that trio, but for our team as well.

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Speaker 4: That trio is. Is this trio the best trio in

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college basketball?

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Speaker 3: Right now? Is it the best? Ronald chime in on.

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Speaker 5: These, Yes they are.

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Speaker 6: They lead the nation in scoring off the best trio

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in basketball. All the numbers back that up, the record

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backs it up. There only loss is to Yukon. So

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you have to wonder if the third person, the third

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option who, Now they've corrected who, Let's just say it

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been And some people don't think this is judgmental. Roberd

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should not have had the ball in his hands in

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the Yukon game. Let's just say he should not have.

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It should have been aj making the decision, and maybe

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by wins on the buzzer beater, or maybe they take

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that game over time. Maybe they still lose. You know,

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they should have could have world, but that's your only loss.

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It to the time who was a top five team.

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So to me, I think this not only is the

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best trio in college basketball, it's the best trio in

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BYU history from what we've seen. If they're gonna make

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a deep run in this tournament, and granted I think

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it's the it will be the best trio been if

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they win the Big Twelve tournament alone, But depending on

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how deep of a run they go. You're talking about

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not just in BYU history, in college basketball history. So

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they have a chance to do something really special this

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year under Kevin Young.

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Speaker 5: So again I say, enjoy it.

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Speaker 6: Because look, you might get other future talents like number

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one overall picks, but nothing like aj De Bonds. I

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think it's gonna come into me for a very long time.

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This kid is extremely gifted. And remember he reclassified. He

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should have been in an exerous class, but he reclassified early.

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He's a youngin and he got the best sophomore port

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a point guard and Robert Wright, one of the best

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shooters in the country and the Richie tracker of three pointers.

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Richie's gonna hit one hundred threes. I'm gonna be declared

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of about that. It's coming is just not a matter

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of if, but when. And with that recipe and with

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the way they played last night, and now the defensive

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side of the ball, that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 5: To lock people up at the perimeter. They do that.

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Speaker 6: They got a good shot Ben and going going out

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and winning this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think it's up for debates. This is

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the best trio in BAU basketball history.

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Speaker 4: It very well could end up being that, depending on

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how far they go in the NCAA tournament. There may

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be some out there that want to go into the past,

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the Jimmer for Debt era possibly go back into the

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fantastic runs in the Mountain West Conference era, the Coach

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Cleveland era in the early two thousands with many NBA players,

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Remember you had you had Travis Hanson half together, those

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guys both were n b A draft picks. Half A

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first round, Travis second round. You could throw big a

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low in there with them.

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Speaker 7: You know you have some guys, But do you ever

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have a team that had three guys that could go

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in the first round in the same year.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if if Richie is Richie going to

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the first round? I don't know if he could be.

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Speaker 5: He could be second round guy now.

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Speaker 4: First it'd be a late first round or if he did,

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I don't know. If he's probably in the first round.

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I think he's getting drafted. I don't know second round,

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That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I think first round.

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Speaker 7: But have you guys I agree? Have you ever had

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three guys that could be drafted in the NBA?

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Speaker 3: Though? And that's the because because the Jimmer for.

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Speaker 7: That team had at Jimmerfreet, Brandon Davies, Jackson Emery was

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pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Well, you had you had Kyle Collins without that team,

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and you had Tyler Haws on that team too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were they weren't NBA draft picks.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Haws was a undrafted free agent, I believe, right, Yeah,

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both of them. Well, I mean, look and they were

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in their prime. Kyle Calls were stop playing time in

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the year.

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Speaker 3: They weren't developed. Kyle Calls.

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Speaker 4: There's a triple double king. And the granted he was

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in his youth right, it was in his younger days.

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But you know, like I said, like you got to

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go back, like I said, Travis Hanson and Hafa, Travis Hansen,

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HAF like you have a first round pick and a

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second round pick and an international superstar and Travis Hansen

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at that time, who was there their third player.

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Speaker 3: That's where maybe where there's a.

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Speaker 4: Little bit of weakness, someone will say, But uh, you're

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also going to bring up like you know, certain eras

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that Danny Ainge era, Greg Kite, these guys were all

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NBA players in all were in the league. Fred Roberts,

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all those guys were in the league for like fifteen years.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well you know what I mean. And here's the

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other thing.

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Speaker 3: And that's they went to the Elite eight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but here's the other thing. The Mountain West and

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the whack. Are great conferences and all, but the competition

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level is not even close true to what uy is

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going to go through this season. If this, if the

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big three that BAU has this season keeps us up

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against the competition that's coming up, there's no doubt that

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they're the best in BAU history.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's a question. I think we got

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to continue to discuss it.

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Speaker 3: This is a great debate.

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Speaker 4: Let's get back to k whystound postgame versus Asu?

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Speaker 3: You had ten blocks without Kaba Cata in the on

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the roster.

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Speaker 4: How ridiculous is that without being in the lineup? How

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happy were you with? How how difficult you guys made

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it for Asu at the rim?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, look that's what Beato does. You know,

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he's a you know, now all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of depth at the five spot.

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Speaker 11: I think that reird had said tonight, I mean he

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had five blocks in seventeen minutes. You know, he started

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cramping up. That's where we took him out. But you know,

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Mihailo has been playing better for us. You know, he's

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got great length. Aj obviously is all world athlete who

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also had you know, seven to one wingspan, So I

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think that's but bottom line is having hopefully forty minutes

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of Kaba and Bido as our back line defense is

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you know, very comforting for sure.

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Speaker 4: Abdullah Akamedbido a blessing for Brigham right now, Ronald, do

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you think that was the missing piece we really didn't have?

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I mean, some people will say Mihailo was your backup

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five behind Keba. They're different players. He's more of a

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stretch five with some rim protection there. He can rim run,

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no doubt. Not a pick and roll guy, more of

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a pick and pop guy.

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Speaker 3: When he is on.

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Speaker 4: Abdullah brings you know, great length, great athleticism, great rebounding,

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and great shop locking ability. He's pretty well well rounded.

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I've really enjoyed watching him play. Ronald, what do you

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make of it? The missing piece, the void piece that

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maybe get you over the hump into a final four run.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Look, the reason why I said missing piece is we

473
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,599
had saw Exavion Staton not maybe coming to make the

474
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,000
impact right away that maybe we were looking for. We

475
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,519
did believe that he might have been a little bit

476
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,359
you know, or all coming in and I take some

477
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,519
development and remember I want to give some some you know,

478
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:06,880
some some praise here. Jordan Brady's done a phenomenal job

479
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,400
with the player development. Look at Haadim in his second

480
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,359
year of what he's been able to do. So maybe

481
00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:13,680
X just needs that full offseason been to be with

482
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,160
the team and senior year or so. I believe next

483
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,559
year he'll be at a step up. But right now

484
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,119
you don't have that backup rim protector that you need,

485
00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:23,359
and you're asking the young buck to make a bing

486
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,319
kickback and that might be tough, but you go get

487
00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,200
a guy that is not a young buck that has

488
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,240
G League experience. And remember I said it, you know,

489
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,720
on the pregame show, I should it be why you're

490
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,000
not breaking any rules? I explained that if you want

491
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,640
to know, go download them on the podcast. They'll tell

492
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,680
you about the G League rules, so that within the rules,

493
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,480
it's not like they're taking dudes that have been drafted.

494
00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:39,319
Speaker 5: Hashtag Baylor.

495
00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:41,519
Speaker 6: Don't know why I said that, but anyway, the point is,

496
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:44,680
I don't know why I said that, so sorry.

497
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 5: Anyway, The point is been, this is the missing.

498
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,559
Speaker 6: Piece because if Caba got into foul trouble, I was

499
00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:51,319
worried of who could come and protect the rim and

500
00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:53,680
they can throw different options, but you need a true center.

501
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,279
Speaker 5: CABA's a true five, Beto is a true five.

502
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 6: If they get in foul trouble, you want to switch

503
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,680
up lineups, you can do that, but hadim true positions

504
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,960
at the four. Mihilo's a stretch five if you go

505
00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:05,279
small ball, but he's really now at the four, you

506
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,559
can do that. I like what they have, but mihilo

507
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,880
skill set is not defending the paint. Kaba and Beatle

508
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,119
give you the paint, so that backup that duo. Now

509
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,079
you won't miss a beat and you saw it last

510
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,400
night with Kava out, so that gives you probably extreme

511
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,000
confidence as a fan and definitely his coaching staff of

512
00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:22,440
going forward of look, this is what you're gonna need.

513
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:23,079
Speaker 5: I'm serious.

514
00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 6: In the Houston game, been a Texas Tech game, you

515
00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:27,880
might see nine to ten eleven dudes play because it's

516
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,200
gonna be a defensive matchup. I think I think you're

517
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,799
gonna have to throw everything at the best players, throw everybody,

518
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,039
So that pickup, I feel like, is the missing piece.

519
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 5: You were riding your.

520
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,039
Speaker 6: Take two weeks ago when you said he was that seven,

521
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,519
that six or seventh guy? Who do you trust? You

522
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:44,640
can trust Abdullah Beatle. I like what I've seen thus far.

523
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,799
Speaker 4: Getting back to the sound K why talking Cada. What's

524
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,400
the status of Kevin Cata right now?

525
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 3: What do you got for is k Why?

526
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

527
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,079
Speaker 11: I don't know as far as uh when he'll be

528
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,480
right back. But it was a small tweak of a

529
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:04,400
little ankle. He's I mean, he probably could have played

530
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,559
the night, honestly, but we held him out.

531
00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:08,519
Speaker 3: Okay, so small tweak of an ankle.

532
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,839
Speaker 4: Sometimes I feel like Kevin says more than I wonder

533
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,160
if some people want him to like and I and

534
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,279
I just look at it from like a pr perspective,

535
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:20,119
because like you don't hear a lot of coaches where

536
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:20,519
they're like.

537
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, this is exactly what the injury is. He

538
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:24,240
probably could have played, like you just don't hear that.

539
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,079
Speaker 4: But I think for Kevin, like he only thinks in

540
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,440
terms of basketball. He doesn't care like what the narrative

541
00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:32,440
is or what the problem like, He's just like, this

542
00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:34,720
is what it is. But sometimes a lot of times

543
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:37,079
you'll hear him say like if he doesn't know. Usually

544
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:39,039
he'll say, I'm just doing what the doctors tell me

545
00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:41,039
to do. But I thought it was really insightful that

546
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:42,680
he's like, look, come on, man, He's like, he probably

547
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,559
could have played, but it was a small ankle injury.

548
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,839
Speaker 3: It's not a big deal. I love I love Kevin

549
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,160
Young's authenticity.

550
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's an NBA guy, So he's willing

551
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:55,119
to talk about injuries, right because I mean, I mean

552
00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:58,480
he's an NBA guy, right Like college is a little

553
00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:01,440
bit more like, hey, we don't want the injury report

554
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,240
out there, but now it's changing too.

555
00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: Aren't injuries changing?

556
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 8: Yeah?

557
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: Because you didn't.

558
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 4: I mean, before the Big twelve injury reports, you didn't

559
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,000
have to say anything you didn't want.

560
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:15,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

561
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if it's shout out to break

562
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,359
your mark. I don't know if I like it. But

563
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,359
somebody's getting money from the gambling guild.

564
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: I know it's not coming to this show, but I

565
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,720
hope somebody's benefiting from it.

566
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 4: And that's that makes the questions like injuries and injury reports.

567
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,799
Are they monetizable? Yes, from a Vegas betting standpoint, But

568
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,240
why is it that certain institutions, Uh, maybe sports information

569
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,440
departments don't want that out And I'm talking you know,

570
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,000
Kyle witting At very sensitive about even you know, we

571
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,880
have the We have the most recent example where Ky

572
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,160
goes onto a podcast and says, there's a third season

573
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,160
any injury. We start talking about it, and it's like,

574
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:54,039
well should we talk about it?

575
00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: Are we not allowed to talk about it? He put

576
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,359
it out there, He put it out.

577
00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: Is it improper for media to like, what's the natural

578
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:02,880
sequence of things?

579
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: What is human nature? And what is what?

580
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: What is the the the next step when the coach

581
00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:12,240
says on on a podcast there's a third season any injury.

582
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,759
Speaker 8: If the coach goes on record, I think it's freeing.

583
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: No, this is what you do. I'll tell you right now.

584
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,279
Speaker 4: This is what you do because we I've seen it

585
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:21,440
from working media in the past before. Unless that podcast

586
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:23,640
is live, which most times they're not. This show is live.

587
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,519
But you go to that podcast and you say, hey,

588
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:27,279
we're gonna need you to clip that out. And I'm

589
00:27:27,319 --> 00:27:29,799
telling you, as someone who has worked in media, I've

590
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,839
seen that. But if you don't want it out there,

591
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,680
got go and say hey, can you clip that out? Yep,

592
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:36,799
and you and then that gets clipped out before it

593
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:37,319
gets posted.

594
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 5: I get mad about that. That's what you have to

595
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:41,319
do with yah when you let them.

596
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: Post that then is it okay?

597
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:47,279
Speaker 4: Is it okay then to theorize who the third season

598
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,680
injury season?

599
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:50,559
Speaker 5: Yes, you're you're allowed to be freely and do that.

600
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 6: Because like, well, don't don't get mad to know that.

601
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: We're not supposed to Like, how are we supposed to

602
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,440
know that? Kevin wasn't supposed to say, you go.

603
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 5: Get mad at me for theorizing because he said the clip.

604
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying, like, can I go through the Ross Bank? Well?

605
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,960
Is it Kava? Is it my hi? Low? Who can't

606
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000
we lose? Is that okay? Or is that like no,

607
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,200
I can't do that. You can't do that. Don't you

608
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,160
theorize about who could be injured? How dare you?

609
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,519
Speaker 4: I do think there's a little bit of ethics to it,

610
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:20,720
but like to your point, like we don't know that

611
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,759
Kevin wasn't supposed to say that. We were not there

612
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:25,960
for the interview, so there's no way of us knowing.

613
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,400
Oh shoot, like as far as we're aware, pr is

614
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,599
good without being out there, because if they were good

615
00:28:31,599 --> 00:28:33,160
he with him of being out there, they would have

616
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,480
clipped that out before the podcast got posted. Is it

617
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:40,839
professionally like non ethical to theorize about injuries when when

618
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,039
that has been stated publicly.

619
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:46,799
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it an immoral issue? You know for

620
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:48,000
media to say you.

621
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 6: Spend a segment on it, bend and after that we

622
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,440
move on. So we talk about it when it comes up.

623
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,039
We spend the twenty to thirty minutes.

624
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: We were gonna want to know about it.

625
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I get pinged about it, like when

626
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,720
it happened. I'll just be honest and I don't care. Look,

627
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:00,559
this is gonna sound really harsh. I don't care what

628
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,839
Pierre has to say about that. I got asked a question.

629
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,319
I have to do my job. They have to do theirs. Again,

630
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:07,559
it goes back to Brett's point again. If you don't

631
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,640
want something, then plan it. We plan this show, right,

632
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,720
there are things that we plan.

633
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,559
Speaker 5: You have to plan.

634
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 6: And if the coach goes on record and says that,

635
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,519
then you need to go back, like Brett says, and

636
00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:16,559
tell those hey.

637
00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 5: Could you one clip that, or could you do this?

638
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 6: Or as I always say, if you just be prepared

639
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:24,079
and when someone brings something to the table and they

640
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:26,400
ask you something about it, you won't have to then worry.

641
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,400
You'll be like oh yeah, and you just look, it's

642
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,960
that's just a part of the business.

643
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 5: You got to deal with it. Stuff comes up.

644
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 6: Sometimes coaches say stuff that they shouldn't. They make mistakes,

645
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:37,640
not saying Kevin made a mistake. Kevin seems like he's

646
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,079
pretty open about talking. Because this is what I believe.

647
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,279
I've seen this from two coaches. I've seen it from

648
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,079
Kevin Young and I've seen it from Jen Rockwood, And

649
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:46,119
this is the Vibey game. They know that they still

650
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,000
have to win a game, regardless of who's on that roster,

651
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,119
and that they're getting paid to win games.

652
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,079
Speaker 5: They don't care about the injuries. That mean they do,

653
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,759
but they don't.

654
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 6: They don't got time to be warrying about Okay, this

655
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,000
dude's is out for the season or this game he

656
00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:58,920
is paid to win. Okay, cap is out, he still

657
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,160
got to be ASU been like, no one cares like that.

658
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,720
That's what That's not what the people paying the salaries

659
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,559
care about. Like, if I'm paying yourself, I don't care

660
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:07,480
who's out. You gotta win that gamest. And I think

661
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,680
that's the mindset I think more coaches need to go

662
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:12,640
about because if you're going with the mindset of competitive advantage,

663
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,839
don't tell. Then it tells me you don't you're not

664
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,799
confident in your coaching staff ability and your roster to

665
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:20,720
do that. Because me as a coach, I don't care

666
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,920
if AP's out for a game. I want a p there.

667
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:24,440
But I got you and I got bread and we

668
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,599
can take down whoever it is. That's my mindset as

669
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,200
a competitor.

670
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,599
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the sound here.

671
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: When aj Rob and Ritchie are cooking like that, as

672
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,440
a coach, do you talk about not getting in their way?

673
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 11: One hundred percent? Yeah, I learned that in the NBA

674
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,000
guys are good. Just get space and get them the

675
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:47,440
ball and shut up, move and sit down and so.

676
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,799
Speaker 1: But at the same time, let me say that tongue

677
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,319
in cheek. I mean what I challenge those guys with though,

678
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,480
is like we're going to give.

679
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 11: Them spacing, but then it's it's a lot of responsibility

680
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,200
though then they have to make the right decision. And

681
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,720
that's really all I talk to not just them about,

682
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,759
but really our team. And we play a pretty free

683
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:07,599
flowing style, I think, and there's certain responsibilities that come

684
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,359
with that. And you know, those are three really mature

685
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,279
guys that understand the game and uh, you know, allows

686
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:16,079
them to be.

687
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: Great, allows them to be great. Ladies and gentlemen, just

688
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,000
stay out of their way.

689
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,759
Speaker 3: I like it.

690
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,519
Speaker 4: You know, you don't want to impede You don't want

691
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,279
to get into you don't want to mess up the mojo,

692
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,680
don't want to impede them from You don't want to

693
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,599
be a Bottlenecker.

694
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,079
Speaker 3: No certain, no way, no how Uh.

695
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: It is fun to watch these three right there's no

696
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,400
doubt it's it's there's a reason why the.

697
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: Ticket sales are as high as.

698
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:43,119
Speaker 4: They are right now, and you look at any of

699
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,559
these stub Hub opportunities. It's expensive to go and attend

700
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,519
a bau basketball game right now. The Utah games insane,

701
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:52,759
by the way, that might be for other reasons that

702
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,039
people are theorizing about, Oh what's that.

703
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 7: What's the theory that there might be a university that's

704
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,559
taking away tickets they've sold.

705
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: They would never do something like what do you mean?

706
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,880
They never high and they.

707
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 7: Don't you ever say that ap They they might even

708
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:16,160
have fans that like to go to that arena every

709
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,240
once in a while, probably for a different sport, not

710
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:19,920
for basketball.

711
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: But that's another conversation. You wonder this is just a question.

712
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: Is it the product that's been so bad that that

713
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:30,279
no one wants.

714
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: To show up.

715
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,079
Speaker 4: Is it like a cultural thing that they just don't

716
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:35,240
like hoop up in Salt Lake? Or is it like

717
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:38,240
the location that's the biggest issue. It's just it's just

718
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:40,599
too far away from parking. Have you have you got

719
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,960
up there before? Yeah, it is a bit of a jaunt.

720
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: But they used to.

721
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 8: They used to sell out that arena during the a

722
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,519
Jerious era.

723
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: They used to.

724
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,039
Speaker 7: I mean, the Jazz gets plenty of fans of the

725
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:55,119
Jazz are terrible. I don't know what's going on. Maybe

726
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,319
it's the the end game experience, the product.

727
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 4: Maybe they feel like because there's already a team up there,

728
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,799
like because they're the Utah Jazz are already up there,

729
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,400
They're like, that's where I get my basketball fixed from.

730
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,559
And Utah is more likely to suck and not be

731
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:12,440
a professional team, whereas like I think Provo is far

732
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,200
enough away that it's secluded and differentiated from that.

733
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel young.

734
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,319
Speaker 7: Well, twenty twenty three, Utah's team, they weren't great. I

735
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,000
think they were in the n I T. They had

736
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,599
a really good point guard. They played really well at home.

737
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,839
It was on the rod that they lost all their games. Fans,

738
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,799
if they like basketball, could have had good experiences going

739
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:38,160
to those games. I just don't understand. Maybe it's a

740
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,279
marketing issue. I don't I don't know what's going on

741
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,279
with no fans going. Because now you've got the coach

742
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:49,799
who's literally it's he, it's there. It's their dream coach

743
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:56,680
who was their favorite player of all time probably I

744
00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:59,000
don't know, one of one of the one of the

745
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,000
all time fan favor rich as your head coach.

746
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: It's their home run higher. Yeah. Yeah, and they're still

747
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,000
not showing up. They're still not there. Yeah, let's get

748
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,400
back to this sound.

749
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 4: We'll try to finish this up and then move on

750
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,880
to the next segment with a little question poll today,

751
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,920
et cetera. But the fourth time the season this group

752
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,440
has shot forty five percent or higher from three point line.

753
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,480
What does it do for this team when they're knocking

754
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:21,280
them down from the three point line?

755
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,079
Speaker 1: Yeah?

756
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:25,079
Speaker 11: I mean, and tonight I thought we had appropriate volume

757
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:27,760
as well to get up thirty one threes and shoot

758
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,760
twenty five free throws.

759
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,519
Speaker 1: I means you're not settling. You know. They started out

760
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:34,320
with the big lineup. I thought we were able.

761
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,679
Speaker 11: To sort of open the game up with their bigger

762
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,599
lineup out there.

763
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: But look, I mean AJ and Rob both and Ritchie too.

764
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,159
Speaker 11: Honestly, I know he's a great shooter, but you know

765
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,960
he's able to drive the ball to the basket too.

766
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: So you got three guys like that.

767
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:50,559
Speaker 11: That are putting immense pressure on the rim. You know,

768
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,719
you got to decide what you want to do and

769
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:54,679
if you help, you know, we got guys that can

770
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,519
knock shots down.

771
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,159
Speaker 1: Thought. Tyler came in and was part of that as well.

772
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,199
Speaker 11: So so I do think although I talked about the

773
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,880
identity sort of being forged, I think that part of

774
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,039
our identity is still a growth process in terms of,

775
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,280
you know, last year, that's kind of all we were.

776
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: You know, now it's starting to become more of who

777
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440
this team is as well.

778
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 4: Love the identity. Three YU Baby. Buy the T shirt

779
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,760
today at Royal Army dot com. Three Y You We're

780
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,199
back Baby. We're a three point shooting team. We weren't

781
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:26,639
there at.

782
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:29,639
Speaker 7: The beginning of the season shooting twenty percent. We were

783
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,239
not three YU Baby. We're in church ball at the

784
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,840
beginning of the season.

785
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: I will say it good. It's mostly just three guys

786
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,199
who were shooting those. It's not really a whole lot

787
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,719
of anybody else. However, the point still remains the same. Yes,

788
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,559
yes it does.

789
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: What did you make of the play in which Rob

790
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:48,679
was tracking the ball down to a behind the back

791
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,079
pass from what was it from aj to make them

792
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:53,960
behind the back pass to Richie for a three point shot?

793
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:57,960
This is like the best play in Marriott Center history,

794
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,320
per s.

795
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 11: I thought it was all just mainly because of the

796
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,639
joy that it brought to the team. Like, I love

797
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,559
I show clips all the time with just joy. I

798
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,280
love as if we're lucky because we get to play

799
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,480
an awesome sport for you know, our living or whatever

800
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,679
you want to call it. And uh, there's a lot

801
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:16,960
of joy that comes with the game.

802
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: So it's fun.

803
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:18,199
Speaker 3: Man.

804
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,119
Speaker 11: It makes you feel like a little kid and everyone

805
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,840
out there, the fans are enjoying it.

806
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: It was awesome, man.

807
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,199
Speaker 4: Like, as far as the plays that you've been able

808
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,159
to witness at the Marriage Center, even in Bay basketball history,

809
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,800
where does that one gonna rank out?

810
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,119
Speaker 3: Is that one a really high one? To be a day?

811
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:36,760
It was fun?

812
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 4: But isn't that is that one of the best plays like,

813
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,360
give me the only child's dunk over Utah. Give me

814
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,840
the half court buzzer beater from from Jim or fer

815
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,400
Dad at the Huntsman Center.

816
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Give me.

817
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,679
Speaker 8: But those didn't happen in the Marriat true.

818
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: True those sites. Uh so the dunk AJ had a

819
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,840
few weeks ago. Yeah, it was at the Marriott Center.

820
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 8: He did a windmill dunk last night.

821
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 3: Can we can we.

822
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: Talk about how the fact that it's not that he

823
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,599
did a wind mill in the fast break, he did

824
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,800
that in a half court set, and they were talking

825
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,800
about that on the broadcast.

826
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't know the last time I saw a guy

827
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:12,920
do a.

828
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: Windmill in the half court that was not on a

829
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,639
fast break.

830
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 3: That is absurd.

831
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 4: I mean a the fact that Arizona State lets you

832
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,360
do that, be the fact that you did it with

833
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,039
four minutes ago and you were up by thirty, and

834
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,719
see the fact that the Wayne was even that open

835
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,280
at all unreal.

836
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: I liked the TJ.

837
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,639
Speaker 4: Hawes buzzer beater at the Marriage Santa versus Saint Mary's.

838
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: That was a great one. I went to that game.

839
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,039
That was That was what.

840
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 7: That was one of those games in high school I

841
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,920
was saving up money to go to and convince my

842
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,960
mom to let me to go that that was an

843
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,519
all time great game.

844
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 8: Was a great game because he also had a child

845
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:52,360
later that night.

846
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, he did, he had his first born.

847
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 7: I think I think they asked them in the postgame

848
00:37:57,519 --> 00:37:58,599
what he was thinking about. It was like, oh, I

849
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,280
was thinking about my Wow, that's gonna be born later.

850
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 4: To I awesome, awesome, Oh man, we've got those awesome

851
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:08,599
Where do you feel like the team succeeded defensively last

852
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,239
this last night?

853
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:11,119
Speaker 3: K Why?

854
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 11: Well, I thought just our attitude to come out I

855
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,400
thought was really good. I mean we put a lot

856
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,320
of time and effort into.

857
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,599
Speaker 1: To mo Odum. I think he's a really dynamic guard.

858
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:21,599
Speaker 3: Now.

859
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,199
Speaker 11: I think it also speaks to how good and move

860
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,880
and AJ can be on the ball with.

861
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean they're different, right moves like this Burley strong guy.

862
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,920
It's hard to get past.

863
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 11: Where AJ's got the length, so I think it gets

864
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,559
a nice little one to two punch to it. We

865
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,840
brought Dominique in as well to give him another look.

866
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,840
But I mean to hold him seven points under his average,

867
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,519
I thought was clutch. But you know, I'm not trying

868
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:44,320
to be the whiny coach, but I think they scored

869
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,280
literally ten straight times in the second half when the

870
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000
game was already away, So you know, the stats are

871
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:50,880
are what they are.

872
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,159
Speaker 1: I wasn't happy with that, but for the bulk.

873
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,639
Speaker 11: Of the game, with our main guys out there, I

874
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:56,280
thought we were suffocating defensively.

875
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:00,199
Speaker 4: Couple last things here, how do you feel about the

876
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:03,239
progress of your team's defense, I.

877
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 11: Mean the whole I mean, look, that's a really good

878
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,480
offensive team. You know, they there's a lot of you know,

879
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,039
we do obviously a lot of scouting, but also a

880
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:14,239
lot of statistical research with our analytics department, and look there,

881
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,079
you know, they show up in a lot of top categories.

882
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:20,199
You know, they get to the line a ton. You know,

883
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,880
they're they're they're dynamic. Like I said, I think I

884
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,920
think Odem's a good players. To hold that team to

885
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,599
thirty points in the first half, I thought, really, ik

886
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:32,719
scept the stage for for how the game was going

887
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,519
to kind of play out.

888
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 4: And finally, you said the other day you hadn't looked

889
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,719
at Utah. Uh what are your opening thoughts of going

890
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,440
up up there and going against this Utah team?

891
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

892
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 11: Still you know, still tick that we lost that. I

893
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,960
know Trevin Nel is somewhere mad that he missed those

894
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,320
free throws. Uh, and just want to go up there

895
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,480
and get a win bottom line.

896
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:55,679
Speaker 3: You know.

897
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: It's like, I, uh, it's interesting for me.

898
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 11: I like obviously grew up in the church, but I

899
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,559
never really grew up just like a super huge b

900
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,320
y U fan.

901
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean I always.

902
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 11: Respected the program and what it stood for and things

903
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,559
like that, but so I didn't grow up with the hate,

904
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,559
right and now that I've been here and you kind

905
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:15,679
of experience.

906
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: It, like you just want to go up there and

907
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,039
beat those.

908
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,519
Speaker 11: Guys, you know, and so uh, you know a little

909
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:22,519
personal flavor too, knowing Alex and West their their GM.

910
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:24,199
It'll be you know, I've known those guys for a

911
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:26,880
long time, so it'll be fun to compete against those guys.

912
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,639
You tack on the rivalry component, you know, it'll mean

913
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:32,440
a lot for guys like Ritchie, you know, for his

914
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:34,280
last time, to be able to try to get a

915
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,119
win in their building.

916
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:35,639
Speaker 1: Be fun.

917
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,679
Speaker 4: B YU basketball. You know, I didn't have many losses

918
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,199
last season. One of them came at the hands of

919
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,599
the Utes at the Huntsman Center. But that one hurt.

920
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,400
And how about k Y calling out Trevin and the

921
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,119
just getting catching strays.

922
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,679
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man, poor Trev.

923
00:40:56,039 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 6: Hey, look, coaches never forget, but let's keep it a buck.

924
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,480
The last two seasons have struggled in that that Utah game.

925
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: Let's keep you.

926
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,519
Speaker 6: I love Kevin and not Kevin Trevin, but look, he

927
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:09,280
hasn't played well the last tew times when he was

928
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,800
at the Huntsman.

929
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,199
Speaker 5: A couple of free throws have been bricked.

930
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 4: All right, poor Trev getting getting catching strays on his head, coach.

931
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 8: I have a bold prediction, all right about this Utah team.

932
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:22,119
Speaker 3: All right, let's go.

933
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 7: They will win less than four conference games. Oh wow,

934
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:34,199
they're They're not a good team. They're really struggling this year.

935
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:41,159
Speaker 4: No hope other than so, no, no more than four games,

936
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:45,440
No more than four games. Last year overall they were

937
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:48,960
sixteen and seventeen. How many wins in Big twelve play

938
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,519
did they get?

939
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: Do you know? Was it six? Or?

940
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:52,519
Speaker 5: Sorry?

941
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,519
Speaker 6: Did not mean to say that. I apologize that was

942
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:58,920
an action. I really apologize, so sorry. But I'm yeah, yeah,

943
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,320
I know, yeah, one of the I guess.

944
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:08,159
Speaker 4: I believe they had three four I'm count of five.

945
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: They had seven eight.

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Speaker 8: That eight a out of twenty at eight, twelve, eight

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and twelve.

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Speaker 3: Man eight wins.

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Speaker 6: So no more, are you firing Alex Jensen if he

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00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,880
doesn't get eight in his first year. No, I'm kidding.

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00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,559
Look that's a joke. I just feel I look, look, look,

952
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:30,079
look I'm joking. I just want you guys know seriously,

953
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people listen to joke. I just feel like Kraick Smith

954
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,840
called astray. That's all so Craig Smith. I think he's

955
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,079
a better coach than people give him credit for.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt, man, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: The pressure of what was going on in Provo got

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to the Ye, got to the decision makers.

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Speaker 3: We did left department. We gotta go get Alex. Anything

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it takes. Ye throw the filthy lucer and Alex bring

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him in.

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Speaker 4: We need our heroic higher, we need our game changing,

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Speaker 8: Uh the uh.

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Speaker 3: The Caribbean tour the Bahamas.

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Speaker 4: You went on the Little Caribbean Tour, yeah correct, Yeah,

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a little Caribbean.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we went to there was a private island called

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Grand Turk. We hit the Dominican Republic, the Pamas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was his honeymoon, by the way, it was.

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This is a depleted honeymoon. Uh and the band of

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the day chosen by ap is is uh K Pop

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Demon Hunters.

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Speaker 3: Is that what they're called?

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00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's from the movie.

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Speaker 3: Have you your kids? I guess aren't. Oh you have

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seen it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I've heard of you are blessed.

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00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard of of of Kate pop Demon just because,

1004
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,039
like other people have referenced it on social media, but

1005
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I've never consumed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm my nephew.

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Speaker 4: When that thing came out, like every time we had him,

1008
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I was watching it at least like I think twice

1009
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a week, so, oh my goodness.

1010
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Speaker 3: And the kids are obsessed with it.

1011
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Speaker 8: Man, they have some catching music.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't catch so catching music.

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so uh uh, Soda Pop the K Pop demon Hunters.

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Kelly Papinga is your DC, he's your defensive coordinator. I

1022
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,119
asked Cougarnation like whether or not they wanted an internal

1023
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:41,519
or external hire, and it was about seventy internal thirty

1024
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:45,960
percent external, so I think. And this is after Gennaro left,

1025
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:48,119
so they had kind of knew a little bit. If

1026
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:50,599
you stayed privy to the game, you knew that it

1027
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:53,639
was most likely either K Pop or it could be

1028
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,239
justin Enna if you liked the internal opportunities. Kelly Papinga

1029
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,519
gets it, and I think this is a fantastic higher.

1030
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: I think he's earned it, I really do.

1031
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: I think he's earned this opportunity to be the guy,

1032
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,199
to be the DC to lead these young men. I

1033
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:16,400
think a really good sign of this being the right

1034
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:21,280
decision is the fact that you've retained pretty much everybody

1035
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,679
on the defensive side of the ball up to this point.

1036
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: To be determined.

1037
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 4: Evan Johnson, I don't know if he's locked in or

1038
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:29,559
running it back.

1039
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:32,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's made the post yet. I

1040
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:36,039
don't know about that. But like everybody else, we.

1041
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,519
Speaker 4: Saw body schoon over, we've seen Tommy prasss today it

1042
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:41,920
seems like everybody else is getting their contract signed and

1043
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,079
buying in and they knew this was probably coming down

1044
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:49,400
the pipeline even before Kelly was announced, because I bet

1045
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,719
you Kelly was reaching out to all these players, reaching

1046
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,079
out to him and saying, Hey, this is what's going on,

1047
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:57,000
this is what we how we see you, this is

1048
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,400
how we're gonna utilize you, this is who we're retaining,

1049
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:02,559
this is who we could be targeting.

1050
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: As far as position coaches are concerned. All of that.

1051
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,079
Speaker 4: They knew it, and they moved forward with k pop

1052
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,519
your guys' reaction, APU, you haven't been able to chime

1053
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:12,880
in on this.

1054
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,639
Speaker 3: Were you a part of the internal external crew?

1055
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,599
Speaker 7: Not only was I a part of the internal, but

1056
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,440
I wanted Kelly papinga yeah, because I feel like, well,

1057
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:26,559
Number one, he was a key part of that defensive

1058
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:30,239
staff that Jay Hill had and so he knows how

1059
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,159
to have a successful defensive scheme and plan. He's been

1060
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:38,440
a coach for several years. It's BYU guy, all the

1061
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,519
things you look for there. But he was the special

1062
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:44,840
teams coordinator for one of the top special teams units

1063
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,719
in twenty twenty four, and there was I'm not going

1064
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,920
to lie. There was a lot of special team struggles

1065
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,800
I feel like from this year, but I felt like

1066
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,559
those were more execution based than schematic problems. To me,

1067
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:02,679
I felt like the scheme was still sound. It's just

1068
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,239
your kicker missed some kicks he should have made. Yeah,

1069
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,679
and your punt returner could not catch the ball for a.

1070
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,119
Speaker 3: Few games there, muffed it. Yeah, don't worry.

1071
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 7: Cody dropped one also, and Cody Cody dropped one. Also,

1072
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,840
your your kick return. That's not on the scheme, that's

1073
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,360
not on the coach. There's only really one time I

1074
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,960
felt like you shouldn't have done. That was that fake

1075
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,920
punt on Texas Tech where he didn't even run the

1076
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,679
guy out past the first That was that was not

1077
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,159
a great call. But that's the only that's the only

1078
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:33,559
one I can think of. I thought he's done a

1079
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:35,400
masterful job with the assignments he's given.

1080
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,519
Speaker 3: I think he's earned it. Yeah.

1081
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: The special teams units from twenty twenty three to twenty

1082
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:47,119
twenty five have ranked eleventh per ESPN s P plus eleventh, fourth,

1083
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,719
and then this year forty seven they dropped. There's a

1084
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,840
drop out, But like through through I think seven games.

1085
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Right before the Texas Tech game they were ranked fourth

1086
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:00,440
in the nation yep.

1087
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 3: And then the willstleg was like what happened?

1088
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: They got kind of got back to to homeo stasis,

1089
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,639
but it wasn't as good as the prior two years.

1090
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: At any rate.

1091
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: I think you look at all those things and all

1092
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,920
of the evidence, I think this is the right hig.

1093
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm actually more concerned if you're gonna say, if you're

1094
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:19,599
gonna ask me, hey.

1095
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 4: Well, what are you concerned about with the new hires.

1096
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,960
I'm getting to know Tomorrow Warren. I was aware of

1097
00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:29,119
him at SUU. My brother was committed to SUU coming

1098
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:32,199
out of high school, and then he ended up deciding

1099
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,599
he wanted to go to the JUCO route and then

1100
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,960
transferred into BYU. But Tomorrow was the head coach in

1101
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,119
twenty sixteen when he came back from his mission.

1102
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: And his staff reached out.

1103
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:43,079
Speaker 4: They loved him, they appreciate him Obvitually, he was a

1104
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:47,400
defensive back coach as well as the DC and and

1105
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,679
became the head coach at SUU. And he's only been

1106
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,840
at two places over his seventeen eighteen year period. Eighteen

1107
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,199
years of coaching SUU from two thousand and eight to

1108
00:49:56,199 --> 00:50:00,000
twenty twenty one, and then Boise stayed from twenty twenty

1109
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:05,280
to The president. Dave Bartwo of CFB Matrix chimed in

1110
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,119
on it and said, this is a great hire. He's

1111
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:11,800
a rising star. I need to probably be convinced. I'm optimistic,

1112
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,719
but we're gonna see how this plays out because he's

1113
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,960
got big shoes to fill in Gennaro Guildford as the

1114
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,880
passing game coordinator and cornerbacks coach. If there is any

1115
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,559
question marks I have so far as you gotta sell

1116
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:27,719
me on Tomrio that he's gonna be that dude, gonna

1117
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,639
be that guy, and he can be just as good

1118
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,000
as Gennaro or better. The one thing that I would

1119
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,199
point out is that to Mario or excuse me, Gennaro

1120
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,079
trained under to Mario.

1121
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 3: As a defensive back coach at SUU.

1122
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,159
Speaker 4: Remember Gennaro was with SUU before coming up to BYU

1123
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,639
with Ed Lamb. I don't know if you guys realized that,

1124
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,119
but Tomorrio was the guy that was training up Gennaro

1125
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,000
prior to his arrival at B one because Ed then,

1126
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:03,880
to remember, Ed took the job up at BYU and

1127
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,440
tomorrow became the head coach in twenty sixteen at SUU.

1128
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1129
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:13,639
Speaker 4: So, but I'm willing, I'm I'm ready, I'm look, the

1130
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:17,280
truth shall set you free, and we'll see what the

1131
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,159
fruits are here going forward with to Mario.

1132
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:22,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and you've already kept one of your

1133
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:25,599
main like Trey Alexander, keeping him as a big deal. Yeah,

1134
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:28,840
I think that's a I think Trey probably knew this

1135
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,239
guy's coming and he trusts him, and so I think

1136
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,800
there's something to be said there. We'll see what happens

1137
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,840
with Evan Johnson. For me, the other question mark is

1138
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,840
is the new special teams coordinator? How is he going

1139
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,960
to be able to keep things going on the special

1140
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,559
teams unit? Is he gonna be able to pick it

1141
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:50,079
back up, bring it back up to a top level,

1142
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:51,199
elite special.

1143
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: Teams unit that it was two years ago?

1144
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 7: Are we gonna be able to get a kicker to

1145
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,039
replace Will Farren? Will Farren had his struggles this last

1146
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:03,199
season for for a portion of it, but let's make

1147
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,039
no mistake about it, He's still he was still one

1148
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:09,159
of the best that Bay you sad certainly in twenty

1149
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,719
twenty four that's you've got some big shoes to fill.

1150
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,960
To find a kicker to fill that that's a big

1151
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,760
deal to the success of your team.

1152
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what's interesting. Let me just take a step

1153
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,679
back here with Gennaro. Jennaro didn't start coaching college football

1154
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,559
until twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.

1155
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 3: You guys are aware of this. He was at Whittier

1156
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,760
College as a graduate.

1157
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,199
Speaker 4: Assistant, so he was working you know, maybe corporate America.

1158
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,760
Remember he had graduated from Brigham Young University in two

1159
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,280
thousand and one. I believe that was his final season,

1160
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,960
maybe two thousand and two, and then finally got into

1161
00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:50,159
coaching over a decade later and from Whittier College. Then

1162
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:52,760
he came over to SUU for the twenty fourteen twenty

1163
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:58,159
fifteen season under Tomio Warren. Tomorrio brought him in to

1164
00:52:58,159 --> 00:52:59,679
be the cornerbacks coach.

1165
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 3: Sgu and he.

1166
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,639
Speaker 4: Was only yet SUU for two seasons before he got

1167
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:09,760
called up to Brigham. Shout out to Gennaro for his trajectory.

1168
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:12,920
Much deserved. But I would say the one thing that

1169
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,880
I'm like, Okay, it's gonna keep me optimistic about this

1170
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,280
is uh Demrio is uh you know the guy that

1171
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,760
trained up and found Gennaro and brought him into the

1172
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,119
kind of the coaching the college football coaching world.

1173
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,079
Speaker 3: Right as a as a true position coach. That was

1174
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:30,280
his first position coach job, not as a GA.

1175
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 7: Well, and you said he's only been two places prior

1176
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,639
his entire career.

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Speaker 4: And he was retained by Spencer Danielson at Boise State

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when Andyvolos was let go.

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Speaker 3: I think that's another point.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, to be optimistic is this guy has been good

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enough coaching. Changes happen all the time in college football.

1182
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It's very easy to lose your job, even if you're

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good at it.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 8: But he's been great enough at it that he hasn't

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had to deal with that. He's been able to move

1187
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when he chooses instead of being moved by someone else.

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I think there's something to be said there too.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Let's go to break.

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Speaker 4: We'll go into a Cougar bea coming up next. I

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want to get into Kyler Casper, former four star wide

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00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,039
receiver out of the Great State of Arizona. He's been

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at the University of Oregon the last few years and

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BYU got him out of the transfer portal.

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Speaker 3: Can he be a guy. Can he be a dude?

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Can he elevate his play?

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Speaker 4: He only had like seven receptions at Oregon, hasn't played

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much been uh not even I don't even know if

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you can consider him a rotational player at Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Can he be a guy?

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Speaker 4: For BYU We'll discuss on the flip side with Darnell Dixon.

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Speaker 3: We'll go to break.

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Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere more than get to Darnelle Dixon on

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the flip. This is Cougar Sports on one of three

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