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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm John Favreau and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Wagner in studio in La.

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<v Speaker 3>I came to cast my ballot just kidding. I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll still take it, still be encounted. How many do

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<v Speaker 3>Several? All for Heidi Montag just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great to be here. I'm I'm always so thrilled

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<v Speaker 2>I hear that we're doing this two weeks in a

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry everyone who wants Stan Pfeiffer on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>It's rare that Dan takes a break from anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're very happy to have you, and on today's show,

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<v Speaker 2>we have lots to talk about whether the Insurrectionist slush

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<v Speaker 2>also going to talk about Todd Blanche's promotion to Attorney General,

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<v Speaker 2>The Republican Congress has been hard at work this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to shovel another seventy billion dollars of our money

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<v Speaker 2>to Donald Trump so that Ice can keep rounding up

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants and locking them away in barbaric detention camps. Trump

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<v Speaker 2>wants even more, of course, billion dollars for his ballroom

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<v Speaker 2>and one point eight billion dollars for a slush fund

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<v Speaker 2>he could use to make cash payments to convicted criminals

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<v Speaker 2>who stormed the Capitol on January sixth. Republicans denied him

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<v Speaker 2>the ballroom money in this bill, but they did on

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday block a Democratic amendment that would have killed the

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<v Speaker 2>J six slush fund. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said

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<v Speaker 2>this week that they wouldn't be moving forward with the

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<v Speaker 2>slush fund, but when Trump was asked about that, he

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<v Speaker 2>gave an answer that surprised absolutely no one. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's so important. On Thursday, he did a

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<v Speaker 2>clean Coal event in the Oval Office where we all

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<v Speaker 2>thought he'd elaborate on the future of the slush fund,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead he dozed off several times in between his

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<v Speaker 2>home renovation updates, which today included an announcement of yet

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<v Speaker 2>another brand new construction proce. Let's listen, this is now open.

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<v Speaker 4>You see the size of that compared to some of

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest buildings in the country, actually the biggest hyppeter.

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<v Speaker 4>And we haven't finished. The water is pouring in as

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<v Speaker 4>we speak. This is from just a little while ago,

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<v Speaker 4>nice clean water. The Lincoln Memorial. The front was supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to be the back. The back was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>the front. It never got built because they built two

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<v Speaker 4>roadways behind it after it was built, and it shut

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<v Speaker 4>off the gateway to the water that was who were

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the main entry And we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>be doing that. We're gonnas called the promenade the promenade.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to call it the Trump Promenade, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if I want to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck is happening?

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<v Speaker 3>It's we really need to talk about how unwell this

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<v Speaker 3>man is. Yeah, first of all, was there a penis

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<v Speaker 3>also on that that? Like that chart of big things

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<v Speaker 3>that Trump's obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, this is I don't we should. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not super important, but this is the second day

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<v Speaker 2>now he has led off an event in the Oval

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<v Speaker 2>by holding up a chart to show that the reflecting

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<v Speaker 2>pool is bigger than most buildings. Yes, but like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even something that he can brag about, like he

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<v Speaker 2>did it. He didn't lengthen. The reflecting pool.

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<v Speaker 3>Was built in nineteen twenty, right, he just put.

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<v Speaker 2>In, He just painted it and renovated it. But now

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<v Speaker 2>he's obsessed constantly with like holding up a billboard of

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<v Speaker 2>how it's big. What that what?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a sort of I mean, it's it's legacy by

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<v Speaker 3>way of phallic imagery. I think it's just an absession

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<v Speaker 3>with size. It is, uh, it is inversely proportional to

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<v Speaker 3>his rate, his approval ratings. Right, so as he sinks

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<v Speaker 3>in the polls, he needs to erect or claim the erection.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry I keep saying these sort of penal the vocabulary,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is all I mean, it's all intermingled, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's the only way he believes he'll have a legacy

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<v Speaker 3>is brick and mortar. And even if it's not his

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<v Speaker 3>own brick and mortar, I mean he's destroyed. He is

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<v Speaker 3>destroying the country, He's lost the faith of maybe his

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<v Speaker 3>even his own party in Congress or is losing it.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a colossal a blood letting ahead of him

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<v Speaker 3>in November, which is going to leave him even more castrated.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what's his recourse, I guess reflecting his promenades. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>big penis cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're doing a promenade around the Lincoln Memorials.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, are we there?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to get the like are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to get those mar Lago yellow umbrellas like we have

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<v Speaker 2>in the what used to be the Rose Garden rip?

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<v Speaker 3>I I don't know that any of this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to come to pass. I mean truly. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>he's over budget and and uh over over time on

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<v Speaker 3>all the projects that are already underway. The Republicans in

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<v Speaker 3>Congress have gotten very fatigued of I think that the

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<v Speaker 3>ego and the vanity projects, and I you know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not giving him a billion for the ballroom. I just

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this is all, first of all, a

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<v Speaker 3>distraction what's really happening, And we should talk about what's

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<v Speaker 3>unfolding in Congress right now. But like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how fast can you build a promenade. The thing they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing in the reflecting pool isn't even fixing the leaks.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be covered in mold in like a

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<v Speaker 3>year or a couple months.

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<v Speaker 2>And the arch don't forget about the Arch.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know. I just hope all

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<v Speaker 3>of them become intake processing centers for newly arrived migrants,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's just the only good. Drain the pool and

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<v Speaker 3>let make it, you know, put bedding down, let people

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<v Speaker 3>sleep there, like, just make it something useful for this

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<v Speaker 3>increasingly poor and destitute country that he's running into the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely loved the John os off line from over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend about all this, where he said, yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>building all these monuments to himself because after he's gone,

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<v Speaker 2>no one else will.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is absolutely devastating. That is an as off

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<v Speaker 3>has been so good on reinforcing the narrative that this

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<v Speaker 3>is all the kind of Louis the fourteenth style corruption

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<v Speaker 3>and self.

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<v Speaker 2>For Sciono Potomac exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it is it's lest Samois that means the state.

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<v Speaker 3>It's me Spanish, non French.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for thank you for moving that one forward.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a disaster of epic proportions in terms of one

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<v Speaker 3>man's ego. But I am skeptical that it actually comes

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<v Speaker 3>to fruition the Trump prom not at least, let's hope.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did you make of the dead or alive

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<v Speaker 2>drama around the slush fund and the Republicans refusal slash

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<v Speaker 2>failure to kill it for good because some tried today, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>to not get their caucus on board. Some tried to

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<v Speaker 2>save their own.

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<v Speaker 3>Asses, some not all. I think Number one, it is

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<v Speaker 3>important that there be specific written language passed by Congress

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<v Speaker 3>that outlaws the slush fund. It is quite clear to me,

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<v Speaker 3>especially based on Trump's suggestion that he loves not explicit

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<v Speaker 3>declaration that he loves the fund, Todd Blanche will do

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<v Speaker 3>anything Donald Trump wants. If Todd Blanche says on Monday

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<v Speaker 3>the slush fund is gone, and Trump says on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>I love it, that means by Wednesday the slush fund

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<v Speaker 3>could be up and running. It is imperative that the

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<v Speaker 3>legislative branch shut this thing down, right, So I think

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<v Speaker 3>the movement to attach an amendment to this reconciliation bill

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<v Speaker 3>that's being voted on right now is essential. What is

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<v Speaker 3>the point of Bill Cassidy. Bill Cassidy is a senator

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<v Speaker 3>He was the holdout today. He delayed, delayed, delayed, people thought,

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<v Speaker 3>then decided at the last minute, after three hours of deliberation,

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<v Speaker 3>effort and not a Democratic effort. Bill Cassidy gave the

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<v Speaker 3>who is vac an, anti vaxer, Robert F. Kennedy Junior.

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<v Speaker 3>He a doctor. Bill Cassidy gave us a lunatic at HHS.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the pivotal vote. This was the one chance

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Cassidy had to redeem his reputation, his stature as

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<v Speaker 3>What's the point of mounting resistance for three hours and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, just to catch people up on what happened here,

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<v Speaker 2>got Collins, and they got Dan Sullivan in Alaska, who's

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<v Speaker 3>Against the chips falling where they may?

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<v Speaker 2>And John Husted exactly anyway, he's the guy that Shared It.

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<v Speaker 2>Shared's best pole. Awesome. But anyway, those three just coincidentally voted. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they voted to kill it as Republicans, but you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>Cassidy and Tillis thought they would be cutesie and they

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<v Speaker 2>which was to say, you can't use the slush fund

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<v Speaker 2>than the way that Trump wants to use it. It

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<v Speaker 2>has to be used for the anti fraud initiative that

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<v Speaker 2>Jade Vance is running, which is basically like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>robbing states of medicaid funding. If they find someone committing

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<v Speaker 2>introduced that amendment, and obviously Democrats weren't going to support

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<v Speaker 2>that because it's crazy and the anti fraud initiative is bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>So they got like I don't know seven eight nine

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans on that one, but that one didn't pass either.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we don't have no weight. Now we have

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<v Speaker 2>no language, We have no language to kill the fund.

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<v Speaker 3>And I say this, it's like fool me wants shame

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<v Speaker 3>on you fully twice, shame on me only seventeen times.

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<v Speaker 3>I should stop talking. And that's how I feel about

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans in Congress. It's like I can't believe, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>even still fucking entertaining the idea that they'll do the

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<v Speaker 3>right thing on this, that they'll actually deliver on something

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<v Speaker 3>they say they're so against, which is a slush fund.

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<v Speaker 3>But I stupidly hold out hope that Bill Cassidy will

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<v Speaker 3>get something done, that Tom Tillis will find a backbone,

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<v Speaker 3>and at Susan Collins, Susan Collins for whom there's a

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<v Speaker 2>Know what, like it doesn't count what Susan Collins and

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<v Speaker 2>Sullivan did, because if it really counted and they really

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<v Speaker 2>They could vote against the final bill.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all on their way out. Tom Tillis and Bill

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<v Speaker 3>Cassidy are out. It's a joke. It's a fucking joke.

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<v Speaker 3>At the same time, it's really important that this get done,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, because we cannot have a two billion dollar

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<v Speaker 3>taxpayer slush fund given to insurrectionists like that is not

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<v Speaker 3>so someone. I mean, I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm outraged. I'm incensed by the existence of Bill Cassidy,

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<v Speaker 3>and I you know, I look for redemption. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>there is some for them.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your level of concern that there hasn't been more

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<v Speaker 2>drama around the ICE funding itself, which is sort of

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<v Speaker 2>not even being talked about as much, partly because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was baked in that it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>pass way back when you know, the government shutdown happened

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<v Speaker 2>or the DHS shutdown happened. I know you covered ICE

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<v Speaker 2>detention centers on Runaway Country this week. I interviewed Andy

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<v Speaker 2>cam on Tuesday pod Senator from New Jersey about the

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<v Speaker 2>horrific conditions at the detention center in Newark. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one that has been like making me quietly

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<v Speaker 2>sick every time I see more stories because it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very aware that we finished the episode of Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>America where there was the battle of Minneapolis, and then

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<v Speaker 2>Christy Nome was fired, and then they pulled back and

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miller was sort of like, you know, had to

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<v Speaker 2>so everyone moved on and thinks, Okay, now things are

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<v Speaker 3>No, there may be fewer expenditures on expensive horse rental

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<v Speaker 3>under Mark Wayne Mullen, the new DHS secretary, but things

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<v Speaker 3>are as dastardly as ever. Let's just I mean, just

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<v Speaker 3>for people who have not paid attention to what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on in terms of detentions. Caitlin Akerson, who we have

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<v Speaker 3>on the show on Runaway Country this week, has been

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<v Speaker 3>doing some essential reporting from on the ground. The idea

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<v Speaker 3>of family separations still happening. By her estimate, I think

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred thousand parents have been deported and separated from

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<v Speaker 3>their children, some of whom have ended up in foster care,

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<v Speaker 3>some of whom have ended up with other relatives or strangers.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no tracking for that part, and they can't get

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<v Speaker 3>their kids back. In many cases, they're in dangerous places

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<v Speaker 3>where they have no home, They're facing threats of gang violence,

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<v Speaker 3>their children are locked in the United States. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a devastating situation. So there's that reality. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about what's happening inside the detention centers, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean there, I think fifty people have died in detention

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<v Speaker 3>since Trump took office. The standard of care in these

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<v Speaker 3>detention centers is appalling. You're talking about medical concerns like

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<v Speaker 3>people needing to see doctors for routine small issues that

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<v Speaker 3>when they aren't treated, become life threatening issues. The lawyer

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<v Speaker 3>that we spoke to, Melissa Shepherd from Immigration Defenders, talked

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<v Speaker 3>about someone who had a hangnail that was left untreated

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<v Speaker 3>and couldn't see a nurse, couldn't see a doctor, and

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<v Speaker 3>eventually was at risk of dying from sepsis because of this. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>these are I mean, then you talk about just basic

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<v Speaker 3>you know, basic, basic, basic, basic levels of care, including

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<v Speaker 3>clean water. They're being given moldy food or not enough

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<v Speaker 3>food or contaminated water. The latrines aren't being cleaned. Detaims

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<v Speaker 3>are volunteering to clean up and create shifts because nobody

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, these are pregnant women and children. These are

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<v Speaker 2>elderly people who need their medicine. John, these are.

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<v Speaker 3>People that've been living in the United States for like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years. Yes, they used to go to cvs to

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<v Speaker 3>get their prescriptions like this is, and that doesn't it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make it easier, It doesn't make it better if

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't those people. But they were integrated into American society,

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<v Speaker 3>and even if they didn't have the paperwork, they were

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<v Speaker 3>living like we are. And they have been shunted into

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<v Speaker 3>a just dark and unimaginably depressing, devastating environment from which

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<v Speaker 3>there seems like no escape. These private prisons, these private

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<v Speaker 3>detention centers are being run by for profit companies like

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<v Speaker 3>the Geo Group, from which the Trump administration is cherry

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<v Speaker 3>picking executives and making them the new head device. Tom

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<v Speaker 3>Holman was a consultant to the geogroup. Ag Bondi back

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen, another consultant to the Geogroup. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>revolving door where you know, the snake is eating its

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<v Speaker 3>own tail and as a result, there are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Geogroup has made I think an eight hundred percent increase

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<v Speaker 3>It's really lucrative business to cram a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 3>with no legal representation into sub human conditions and charge

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<v Speaker 3>the government a lot of money for it. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening. And now we're about to dump another seventy

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<v Speaker 2>Lab And like, we've both interviewed people who've been caught

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<v Speaker 2>means and maybe they're like Canadians that got caught up

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<v Speaker 2>in it, but right, and they will say, like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even like they're just deporting people, right, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I think. People have this image of a Trump

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the world the worst or maybe just undocumented immigrants.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously it's gone beyond that. But it's beyond just deportation,

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<v Speaker 2>which in some cases would be more humane than what

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<v Speaker 2>they are doing to people in these detention centers. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people are like begging to be deported something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, that's the point. I think. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>things they're doing is making the life so abominable that

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<v Speaker 3>people just decide I'm going to give up on my case.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and by the way, half the time they

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<v Speaker 3>system and they give up hope. I mean, it's an

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly emotionally traumatic thing to be snatched off the street. Kids,

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<v Speaker 2>Kids are are kids age well, and like what happens

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<v Speaker 2>after you spend a month in a detention center like that?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean. I also, I mean there's no oversight into

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<v Speaker 3>had on. I mean, when you have congressional representatives who

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<v Speaker 3>are you know, tasked with oversight, trying to do their job,

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<v Speaker 3>they are pepper sprayed, they are arrested, they are charged

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<v Speaker 3>with crimes. I mean, and we have no idea what's

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you when I was talking Andy Kim,

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<v Speaker 2>like a brand new new to Congress time of January sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was in the Capitol picking up the trash. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Like when you see something like that, it's like and

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<v Speaker 2>politician who's like hair on fire partisan this that he

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<v Speaker 2>just he saw something and you can tell he like

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<v Speaker 3>You can't unsee it or unlearn it. And I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say one of the advantages of the way the

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<v Speaker 3>large part behind the worst parts of it are happening

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<v Speaker 3>behind closed doors. When Alex Pretty and Nana cole Good

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<v Speaker 3>of people is just happening behind closed doors. And they're

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<v Speaker 3>brown people, and they have fewer rights, and there's less

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<v Speaker 3>mainstream media coverage, and the federal government makes it very

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<v Speaker 3>to people who were once integrated members of our society,

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<v Speaker 3>for anybody that works on it, but we should be

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we should be all more publicly devastated by it.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the context of this funding, you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>that the essential fight here. The reason this bill is

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<v Speaker 3>happening through reconciliation is because the Democrats didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>fucking fund ICE and CPB without reforms because what they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing is an abusive power. It is not constitutional, and

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<v Speaker 3>that should always be the sort of EndNote for any

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<v Speaker 3>discussion about whatever Congress ends up doing on reconciliation.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you one more thing on this? Did you see

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday? Homeland Security Secretary Mark Waynemullen refused to rule

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<v Speaker 2>out his crazy as plan to basically shut down not basically,

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<v Speaker 2>it would shut down international travel at airports in sanctuary

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<v Speaker 2>cities by removing customs and border patrol officers. So here la,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the first threat was Newark because there were

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<v Speaker 2>the protests outside the Delaney Detention facility. And that is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether to be like that is completely

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<v Speaker 2>insane and scary and what are we gonna do or

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<v Speaker 2>like go for it, touch the stove, shut down, shut

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<v Speaker 2>down international travel on this economy to the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No Republicans fly though, right they only they traveled

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<v Speaker 3>by pony. What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine the hit to the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be so bad. It's such an example of

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<v Speaker 3>this idiot ass administration cutting off its nose despite its face.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, good job guys like make gas a trillion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars a gallon and then shut down air travel way

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<v Speaker 3>way to make America great again? I mean. And Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Wayne Mullin in his you know notes on this plan,

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<v Speaker 3>suggested that it's something they've been cooking up for a

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<v Speaker 3>while and they're ready to execute on it until and

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<v Speaker 3>unless ICE officers are respected. Well, you know, on some level,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, John, maybe doing that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>taking the setting aside the hit to the economy. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like at least people would be reminded. I know that

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<v Speaker 3>this is an ongoing side design.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a touch and stove moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Good news for the brains behind the J six slush fund.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump announced this week that he intends to officially promote

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<v Speaker 2>Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche to permanent Attorney General. Todd Blo. Blanch,

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<v Speaker 2>President's former personal defense lawyer, has been on a role

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<v Speaker 2>since he took over for Pam Bondy. In addition to

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<v Speaker 2>coming up with a slush fund, Blanche has brought a

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<v Speaker 2>second indictment against Jim Comey for his Seashell art picture,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's also stepped up an investigation into John Brennan.

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<v Speaker 2>Blanche's nomination will have to go through the Senate Judiciary Committee,

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<v Speaker 2>whose Republican members include John Cornyn and Tom Tillis. Are

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<v Speaker 2>we gonna be stuck with Todd Blanche for as long

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<v Speaker 2>as we're stuck with Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, I mean, no matter what Tom

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<v Speaker 3>Tillis intends on doing, there is the reality that Todd

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<v Speaker 3>Blanche can stay acting age till Trump is out office.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if this is the time to

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<v Speaker 3>mention the Julie suit situation, but under Biden in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, he could not get his acting or his

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<v Speaker 3>deputy Labor secretary confirmed to be Labor secretary, in large

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<v Speaker 3>part because of Joe Manchin and Kristen Cinema. Will set

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<v Speaker 3>that aside for a rainy day another rank, but effectively

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<v Speaker 3>set and I don't want to say set the precedent

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<v Speaker 3>because I think what's happening here is much more nefarious,

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<v Speaker 3>but opened the door to a mechanism by which a

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<v Speaker 3>deputy secretary can become acting secretary for a largely indefinite

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<v Speaker 3>period of time, assuming that the sort of paperwork around

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<v Speaker 3>that is taking care of every year, and Republicans are

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<v Speaker 3>looking at that, or the Trump administration, I would assume

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<v Speaker 3>is looking at that and saying, well, if you could

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<v Speaker 3>do that with your Labor Secretary, Julie Sue. We can

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<v Speaker 3>do that with our wanna be ag ring kiss or

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<v Speaker 3>extraordinary Todd Lynch.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is sort of I mean, it's been the

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<v Speaker 2>law forever and it's sort of like the Vacancies Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Without getting into all of the details on this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are confirmed to be a deputy something something

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<v Speaker 2>at a cabinet agency and then you're going to be acting,

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<v Speaker 2>it is pretty easy to just restart the clock every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year. We're now we're withdrawing the nomination. We're doing

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<v Speaker 2>it again, and they're going to get a vote. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get a vote, and now we're going to take you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so like you can just play with the

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<v Speaker 2>paperwork and Todd Lynch can serve forever, thank god, for

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<v Speaker 2>as long as we have done.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I guess good job, Todd, Like what

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<v Speaker 3>didn't you bow and what didn't you scrape in order

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<v Speaker 3>to get that nod?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, he's got it, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet he's not the worst I think of the

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<v Speaker 3>nominees that have been proposed this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here we go take it up for you.

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<v Speaker 3>John.

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<v Speaker 2>The Blanche News did briefly overshadow the appointment of Bill Poulty. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the same Bill Poulty who's been using his perch a

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<v Speaker 2>top the Federal Housing Finance Administration to manufacture mortgage fraud

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<v Speaker 2>allegations against people on Trump's enemies list. Don't worry, he

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<v Speaker 2>apparently still gets to keep that job too, because he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing such a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, Can he be the Viceroy of Venezuela as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably? We only have a couple of people to do

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<v Speaker 2>all the jobs now. No one else wants to work there.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also the same Bill Poulty who Scott Best

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<v Speaker 2>and threatened to punch in his fucking face. And it

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<v Speaker 2>does seem like even Republicans and other Trump administration colleagues

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<v Speaker 2>may not be super thrilled with making this dufus America's

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<v Speaker 2>top spy chief. Let's listen.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think that Bill POLTI has the experience to

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<v Speaker 6>be the actor DNI.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll defer the chairman on that Centaer Cotton, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to speak to that.

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<v Speaker 5>We have four more weeks with Director Gabbard as the

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<v Speaker 5>d and I and I look forward to implementing last

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<v Speaker 5>year's Intelligence Authorization Act with her.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no observations on the matter.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever, specifically in the context of the intelligence community,

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<v Speaker 4>heard the name Bill Paulty in the context of intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I say.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you mean like the intelligence community or just intelligence generally?

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<v Speaker 2>That's my question, Tom Cotton saying, I have no observations

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<v Speaker 2>on the matter. I know that is all we got.

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<v Speaker 3>You speak for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump was asked about this one in the oval when

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<v Speaker 2>he was giving us his renovation updates. And here's his explanation.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do you think, mister president, he's the best person

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<v Speaker 5>for the job.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he's very smart. He's a person who's got high integrity.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's an acting position. It's not a provment. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be permanent because you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think he'd want to be prev And you may find

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<v Speaker 4>out some things about the rigged elections et cetera, et

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<v Speaker 4>cetera have been necessary for You're used to president the

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<v Speaker 4>necessary national security experience to take on that, Well, I do,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think he does actually because he's smart.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Trump says, you're smart, you have all the experience.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your level of concern on this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>Very high? Hi, Hi, I think even and especially the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that he's just serving for a specific window to

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<v Speaker 3>find election interference right ahead of the midterm elections. What

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<v Speaker 3>could go wrong? I will draw everybody's attention, like as

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<v Speaker 3>if you didn't give us enough examples of this person

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<v Speaker 3>be clowning himself in life. Will summer at.

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<v Speaker 2>The point, I'm so glad you brought this up. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a good story. It's such a good story.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone go read it.

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<v Speaker 3>Pull despential, like much of twenty twenty three, trying like

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<v Speaker 3>as a meme stock investor, trying to get people to

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<v Speaker 3>invest in like worthless shares of bed Bath and Beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and as smart as his sole mission.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's all he did. And like basically they will

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<v Speaker 3>will talks about how he organizes an event in December

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty three at a Florida hangar, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>like an airplane hangar that was dedicated to the conspiracy

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<v Speaker 3>that Bed Bath and Beyond never actually went bankrupt. With

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<v Speaker 3>Pulty sitting on stage, one promoter slapped a grateful supporter

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<v Speaker 3>in the face with a green dildo, which was apparently

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<v Speaker 3>a powerful symbol in their inscrutable online subculture. He uncovers

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<v Speaker 3>what that inscrutable dildo symbolism means, and it's just as

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<v Speaker 3>heinous as you would imagine it to be. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the person that Trump wants to put in charge of

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<v Speaker 3>our intelligence infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see what he got at that event? So

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<v Speaker 2>he was sitting there while the dildo incident occurred. Someone

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<v Speaker 2>else got slapped in the face with the green dildo.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Paulty was given a little trophy with the

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<v Speaker 2>t rex on it and it said it said Poulty

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<v Speaker 2>only fucks the young.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, he I think they were on two It

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<v Speaker 3>was two different sides of the trophy. But yes, if

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<v Speaker 3>you put all the sentence together, that's what. It's only

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<v Speaker 3>the young and he fucks and so he foxes on

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<v Speaker 3>one side. And I believe on the fact the cracker

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<v Speaker 3>Jack fact checking, yet he fox only the young. It

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<v Speaker 3>is all I mean, I just we have to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to the phallic obsession of this administration. It is

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<v Speaker 3>all just about dick swinging, and like he proved himself

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<v Speaker 3>to be both at once willing to be castrated by

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump but having some kind of dick to swing

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<v Speaker 3>around at some point, or at least a dildo. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sorry that this has gotten so lude. I know it's

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<v Speaker 3>a family pro I mean, but it's not fault. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not it's the new acting director of National Intelligence who

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<v Speaker 3>reportedly gave Trump that you are the You are Jesus J. Pegg.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the behind the fifty year mortgage boondoggle. Like, what

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<v Speaker 3>we're really talking about this guy? I mean, not only

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<v Speaker 3>does he have I mean it's almost like the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he has zero qualifications for the job an afterthought.

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<v Speaker 3>He is com completely morally and like I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>ethically corrupt. He's a joke. And I would hope that

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's suggestion that he'll only be in the office temporarily

656
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<v Speaker 3>is some kind of hat tip to the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>he knows that he's a joke. Yeah, but that should

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<v Speaker 3>not call him anybody's fears, because as you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>quite obvious. I mean, he's being put in there for

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<v Speaker 3>one reason only, and that is to help Trump find

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<v Speaker 3>a reason to say that the results of the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty election were fraudulent and potentially to say that the

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<v Speaker 3>results of the twenty twenty six midterms should not give

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats to gabble.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we just talked about why it's challenging

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent the president from putting someone in a temporary position.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, for you know, for as long as he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Section seven oh two warrantless wiretapping authority is up for

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<v Speaker 2>renewal Thatttle Chestnut and both parties have negotiated surprisingly an

670
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<v Speaker 2>agreeable solution to that. So they were going to put

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<v Speaker 2>that up for a vote. But now Democrats are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to reauthorize that if the person in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of it is this fucking dufus, And they're wondering

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<v Speaker 2>if enough anti Poulty Republicans would join along try to

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<v Speaker 2>use that as leverage. I think I saw maybe Collins, Murkowski,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tillis voted for an amendment that would prevent Poulty

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<v Speaker 2>from being a DNI chair that they added, But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think any of the other Republicans voted for I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the past.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe you have to debate them, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to sweeten it, like, we know he's a clown, we

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<v Speaker 3>know he's a maniac, we know he's completely untrustworthy and

683
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 3>could do crazy damage to the democracy. But if that's

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<v Speaker 3>not enough, we're going to hold seven oh to FISA

685
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<v Speaker 3>wire having an authorization hostage. It's insane to me that

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats have to add a sweetener to attract more Republicans

687
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<v Speaker 3>when this person is so categorically unqualified for this job.

688
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<v Speaker 3>It's shameful.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what John Ratcliffe thinks. Who is the CIA

690
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<v Speaker 2>director and like not my cup of tea, but like

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<v Speaker 2>a profession Yeah, and you know, I know that the

692
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.079
<v Speaker 2>ORG chart there is a little little loosey goosey, but

693
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<v Speaker 2>he still has to like, like, this is the director

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<v Speaker 2>of National Intelligence. Maybe they just cut him. I bet

695
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<v Speaker 2>they cut him out of all the important stuff. And

696
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<v Speaker 2>then when Trump wants really bad shit done, then Paulty

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<v Speaker 2>gets access to everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is what he's already digging up. You know, he's

699
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<v Speaker 3>rummaging around mortgage files, trying to find fraudulent mortgage applications

700
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<v Speaker 3>so that he can tag Letitia James and Jim Comey.

701
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he this is all so utterly embarrassing. And

702
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.840
<v Speaker 3>yet what's crazy is we don't know what happened, Like

703
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<v Speaker 3>we don't know if the visa reauthorization is going to

704
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<v Speaker 3>be sufficient enough to get Trump's party to shut down

705
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.960
<v Speaker 3>the nomination of someone who could do grave damage, not

706
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:51.559
<v Speaker 3>just to do the democracy, but even to them. You

707
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Once you cross Trump, once you're

708
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 3>no longer in office at anything's fair game. Like they're

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<v Speaker 3>in peril as much as anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a lot that if Democrats take Congress

711
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>that they can't achieve in two years with Donald Trump

712
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>as president because he's still got veto power. But these

713
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 2>are the kinds of things, especially PULTI, where if Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>have control of Congress, you haul this guy in for questioning,

715
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>you send subpoenas not just for him, but for document

716
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like you can. You can make stuff happen if you

717
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<v Speaker 2>control Congress with appointments. This horrendous for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Tulsey Gabbert looked like j Edgar Hoover, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>One more congressional development of note before we leave Capitol Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Four House Republicans, including Thomas Massey, joined Democrats on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>and passing a war Powers resolution directing the president to

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<v Speaker 2>end military operations in Iran. Democrats and Republicans in the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate advanced a similar measure a few weeks ago. This

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<v Speaker 2>is all largely symbolic, however, because Trump can just veto

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<v Speaker 2>the resolution, which he's not too happy with. He responded

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday by calling the warp powers a vote unpatriotic,

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans who voted for it grandstanders, and the Democrats Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>which seems to be his new nickname of choice. We

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<v Speaker 2>haven't played a clip yet of this on this program,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has said now multiple times he tells this

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<v Speaker 2>story and he's like, you know, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that dumb has a B at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what he's been saying, and like straight face,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I call them the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>For who the bell tolls eight tolls.

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<v Speaker 2>For people below't know all this time, you know there's

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<v Speaker 2>a B at the end of dumb. Meanwhile, there seems

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<v Speaker 2>to have been zero progress this week and actually ending

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<v Speaker 2>the war in Iran, which Trump said Wednesday is quote

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<v Speaker 2>not a big thing, not a big thing for the

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<v Speaker 2>US to detour. I'd like to read you some rave

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<v Speaker 2>reviews about the Iran war in the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 2>today Thursday. Quote it has achieved enough to produce a

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<v Speaker 2>far better Middle East. Quote reaching no deal is fine

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<v Speaker 2>end quote, this is a new day in the Middle East, cared.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the author.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, I'm gonna say who who? John who loves ill

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<v Speaker 3>can see regime change more than someone from the George W.

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<v Speaker 3>Bush administration. Could it be?

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<v Speaker 2>It's Condialeza Rice pops are head up to just give

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<v Speaker 2>a ringing endorsement of our progress on Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is less welcome the Jill Biden memoir or the

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<v Speaker 3>Condaleza Rice op ed.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, the You'll Biden memoir that's saying something, but the

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<v Speaker 2>only because the Kandye Rice one is like, what is

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<v Speaker 2>this gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Also, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me burnish my reputation by defending a failing president

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<v Speaker 3>that broadly misguided war.

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<v Speaker 2>That is commitment to the bit that like she is

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<v Speaker 2>a true, true Neo Khan till till the end.

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<v Speaker 3>I read this and I was like, are you kidding lady?

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<v Speaker 3>The war? First of all, she writes about it in

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<v Speaker 3>the past tense, and I'm like, wait a second. It

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<v Speaker 3>drew America, Israel and Arab States closer through defense, cooperation

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<v Speaker 3>and intelligence. What didn't draw the region closer? It also

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<v Speaker 3>showed that although Iran can close the straight of horror moves,

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<v Speaker 3>that leverage is limited. Is what it doesn't seem like it.

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<v Speaker 3>His approval rating is like negative one million right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's about to hemorrhage any leverage he has in conquer, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>what in the fuck are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, and she's like, and do we need the enriched uranium? Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but that can be a tomorrow problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, John, there are large dog piles of highly

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<v Speaker 3>enriched uranium somewhere in ran. But this is a problem

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<v Speaker 3>for the future, not today, really well, and then goes

837
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 3>on to just like sbout pure conjecture about like anyway,

838
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 3>there ways of enriching it are probably dismantled or destroyed.

839
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Trust me. What I don't like hindsight is negative twenty twenty.

840
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 3>Like the whole thing is just like we have learned.

841
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just the hubrious, the foolishness. Anyway, I

842
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 3>delighted in it. Actually, yes, it was breaking.

843
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to figure out what it was. And

844
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 2>buried in there is her saying like, you know, no

845
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 2>deal is fine, and that's better than a bad deal.

846
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 2>And she said, under no circumstances can we be lifting

847
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 2>any sanctions and giving them money? Yeah, And so she

848
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 2>is doing the classic yes, anti anti Trump Republican thing

849
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.119
<v Speaker 2>of being like, I think we can play him right,

850
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.320
<v Speaker 2>because we'll tell him that the war went great, but

851
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 2>what we really don't want is pellets of cash to Iran.

852
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 2>And they don't want a deal where we unfreeze sanctions

853
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 2>and unfreeze funds for them in exchange for getting rid

854
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 2>of the nuclear material, which was the whole reason that

855
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 2>we started the war in the first place ostensibly, and

856
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>opening the straight up hor Moves, which was open at

857
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the war. And so she's like, yeah,

858
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 2>understand all that, but things aren't that bad, and so

859
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 2>what she really wants is a deal to open the

860
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 2>straight no money to Iran, and then just cut and run.

861
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you negotiate that deal, and nobody

862
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 3>seems to be able to. But like, I guess, nice

863
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.079
<v Speaker 3>try Kandy, You're totally right that It's like we will

864
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.360
<v Speaker 3>stroke the dog, will come running at us with saliva

865
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 3>foaming at its mouth, and we will stroke the dog

866
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 3>right between the eyes, right between the eyes, and we

867
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 3>will calm the dog down, and then we will get

868
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:55.480
<v Speaker 3>it into the cage. And it's like, no, that dog's

869
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:56.760
<v Speaker 3>going to fucking bite you. It's good.

870
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Dog's uh. All right, let's talk about the big we

871
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 2>had this rule, the ongoing and Iowa, Josh Turret beat

872
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Zach Wallas to become the Democratic Senate candidate. He'll be

873
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>squaring off against Ashley Hinson in November in a race

874
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that Cook political report has now shifted from likely Republican

875
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:16.440
<v Speaker 2>to lean Republican. So Iowa Senate in play in Montana,

876
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a Bernie AOC backed smoke jumper and union leader named

877
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Sam Forstagg beat two moderate Democrats to become the nominee

878
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>in the state's first congressional district, which Republican Ryan Zinke

879
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:27.800
<v Speaker 2>is vacating.

880
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Hot Fireman, dude, we need more fucking smoke jumpers. I'm

881
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 3>sorry to curse him. We need more smoke jumpers. Please

882
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 3>delete the fucking we need more smoke jumpers.

883
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Smoke jumpers. I just look at what a smoke jumper.

884
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Was I did. I actually just assumed it was fire

885
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.480
<v Speaker 3>religious glad that it's not some acrobatics that I was

886
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.400
<v Speaker 3>unaware Of'm like parkour for fire.

887
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 2>No, it's like it's definitely fire related. And here in

888
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 2>California we're still counting votes as we will be potentially

889
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:56.760
<v Speaker 2>for another week or two.

890
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:57.679
<v Speaker 3>So embarrassing.

891
00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I know it is embarrassing as of right now. The

892
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 2>guy His race shows Republican Steve Hilton and Democrat Javier

893
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Bassera in lead, though there's a small chance the Democrat

894
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Tom Steyer could catch Basera as more ballots are counted.

895
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 2>He's currently about six percent behind. In the mayor's race,

896
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Karen bass is headed to the runoff in November, and

897
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.760
<v Speaker 2>currently Republican reality TV Doe Spencer Pratt is in second,

898
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>but there's also a chance the Progressive challenger Nythia Rahman

899
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Speaker 2>could catch him. She's currently seven percent behind. Election analysts

900
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>say that in the past, the ballots got bluer the

901
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:31.039
<v Speaker 2>later they were counted, and that may be especially true

902
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 2>in this election, since a lot of undecided Democrats held

903
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 2>their ballots until the very end.

904
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Like the people who usually said at this table.

905
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Like the people who usually sit at this end. I mean,

906
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I I decided late before these guys, But I did.

907
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 2>I turned it on Monday.

908
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's still considered late.

909
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:47.320
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty Yeah. I dropped it in. I dropped it

910
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>in a box on Monday, So who knows when it

911
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.920
<v Speaker 2>finally got to the may not have Yeah, while we

912
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 2>have you here in La, what have you made of

913
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:55.559
<v Speaker 2>our California primaries?

914
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Cousin to count your boats a lot faster. There are

915
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 3>machines that will help you. I am. You know, we

916
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.039
<v Speaker 3>focused actually on both Texas and California and last week's

917
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Runaway Country, and we had the inimitable Daniel Pfeiffer on

918
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and it worries me as someone who would like to

919
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 3>see a changing of the guard in twenty twenty eight

920
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.320
<v Speaker 3>about what this could portend for the Democratic Party writ large.

921
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:24.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a good point just because there's I mean, I

922
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 3>think the gubernatorial race is a little different. It was

923
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 3>hit with obviously the Swallowell revelations or accusations or whatever

924
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 3>we're calling them, and that up ended, I guess the race.

925
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 3>But there's a real lack of enthusiasm, no coalescing. It's

926
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 3>what exactly the party wants to do in terms of

927
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 3>like it's priorities for like arguably one of the most

928
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 3>the most important state in the Union. I'm a New Yorker,

929
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 3>so I can't really give you that, but you know,

930
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:51.480
<v Speaker 3>there's no clear agenda. There's a lack of enthusiasm. There's

931
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 3>a sense that everyone's votes are very scattered and it's

932
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 3>based on strategy, and that's not how you win a

933
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 3>national election, and I worry that some of that can

934
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 3>trickle down to what is going to be very crowded

935
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 3>primary field and where I think the order of the

936
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 3>day is going to be electability, which is so what

937
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 3>the fuck is that?

938
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I guess it makes super important, super

939
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>hard to define exactly, very subjective and not totally subjective

940
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:17.639
<v Speaker 2>though that's the real You want to be like, well,

941
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 2>you can't dismiss it totally and be like, well, it's

942
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.559
<v Speaker 2>all subjective. No one knows electability. Yeah, you can kind

943
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:24.960
<v Speaker 2>of tell, but it's also not perfectly objective either.

944
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the mayoral race really worries me in many ways.

945
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:31.880
<v Speaker 3>The gubernatorial race, I will set aside to like sort

946
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 3>of strange dynamics, but the mayoral race seems like an

947
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.639
<v Speaker 3>area where Democrats are having a really hard time articulating

948
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 3>a message that is dressing people's deep seated concerns. So

949
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 3>much so that a no nothing reality TV star sounds

950
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 3>familiar has somehow vaulted to the like the head of

951
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 3>the pack. I mean, that's that's not good. That means

952
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 3>there's real desperation inside. You know, one of the bluest

953
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 3>cities in the blue estates in the country. So what

954
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 3>does that mean for the country where it's not as

955
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.360
<v Speaker 3>blue and it's not as concentrated. I just I I

956
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:03.760
<v Speaker 3>don't like what I'm seeing here, and I genuinely love

957
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:04.239
<v Speaker 3>this state.

958
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I have been like grumbling about this to anyone who listened.

959
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 2>But all the Democrats running in California in these primaries

960
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:18.800
<v Speaker 2>mayor and governor, who's the really inspiring communicator? Yeah, who's

961
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 2>really good? Who gets who's good at getting attention by

962
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 2>just talking and not spending two hundred billion dollars two

963
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars like Tom Styre did, not a lot

964
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 2>of them. And then you have someone Katie Porter's a

965
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 2>good example. Here's someone who in twenty eighteen rising star,

966
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.559
<v Speaker 2>great communicator, policy want but also someone who's like explained

967
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 2>it and accessible way had the whiteboard. And then she

968
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:43.639
<v Speaker 2>has a personal character issue right with staff. So then

969
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 2>you got that and that becomes a theme in the

970
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party as well. Now, right, so you got that

971
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of person, you got your nithias like this, and

972
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other folks were running to who are

973
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 2>like good at the job. You can tell they're going

974
00:47:57.760 --> 00:47:59.840
<v Speaker 2>to be good at the job, and they have brilliant people,

975
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.199
<v Speaker 2>but like, were they born to be campaigners? Not really.

976
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>We've had a lot of that in the Democratic Party. Yeah, right,

977
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 2>And then you have the Besias, the Karen Basses, who

978
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>their claim to fame is just sticking around long enough

979
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.679
<v Speaker 2>and just hanging around Democratic politics and being part of

980
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the establishment and making enough connections in the establishment that

981
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 2>suddenly people are ready to rally behind you. And do

982
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 2>you have good intentions? Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure Karen

983
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Bass had great intentions when she took the job, and

984
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 2>same with I assume that of Javier Biserra because I

985
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 2>like to always assume well about people. But Karen Bass

986
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't adequately communicate in the last couple of years on

987
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:42.639
<v Speaker 2>this job. She didn't show the kind of urgency you

988
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.880
<v Speaker 2>need to show to be mayor of a city this large,

989
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 2>even though it's a weak mayor. That actually means you

990
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:52.320
<v Speaker 2>have to work even harder to communicate in a weak

991
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:56.039
<v Speaker 2>mayor system. And you know that doesn't surprise me because

992
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 2>in Congress is a member of Congress, which she was

993
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.320
<v Speaker 2>for so long. You can just kind of hang out

994
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 2>in Congress and take your votes. But like, we need leadership, yeah,

995
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 2>we need people to like stand up and point somewhere

996
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:08.679
<v Speaker 2>and say this is where we're going, and this is

997
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 2>how we get there, and get behind me, and we're

998
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 2>going to get excited. And it's like, where is that?

999
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, And the party by nature doesn't lend it sort

1000
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:18.519
<v Speaker 3>of antithetical to be standing up and guiding everything in

1001
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:20.760
<v Speaker 3>the Democratic Party, which is much more of a consensus

1002
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 3>oriented group of people, right, and it's much more inclusive

1003
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 3>and expansive in thought and agenda and all the rest.

1004
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:29.960
<v Speaker 3>But that is a sort of structural problem for a

1005
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 3>party that desperately needs leadership and like executive style leadership.

1006
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And it bunks me out to say it, because

1007
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.840
<v Speaker 2>first of all, it is really hard to run for office,

1008
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's a lot of sacrifice, and especially in this environment,

1009
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like why does anyone want to go through that? Right?

1010
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 2>And there are so many people who are going through

1011
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 2>it right now, who are wonderful candidates who people will

1012
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe never hear about because they're just putting their head

1013
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.199
<v Speaker 2>down and trying to win their races. And they're not

1014
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 2>as flashy as some of the other candidates we talk about,

1015
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and like, God bless them. But when we get to president,

1016
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:00.840
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be the Yeah, this is why

1017
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like this is spook in me, because you can

1018
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 2>you can do that in a congressional race. You can

1019
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 2>do that probably even in a Senate race. As you

1020
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 2>get to governor in this state, or as you get

1021
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 2>to a mayor or now especially when you get to president,

1022
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a lot tougher to do that. Yeah,

1023
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 2>just sort of fake it. Yeah, you need the real

1024
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 2>talent there.

1025
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:20.000
<v Speaker 3>It's true. I know that town's come from California. JK, JK.

1026
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.079
<v Speaker 3>It's a great state. It is a great people here,

1027
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.079
<v Speaker 3>a lot of great people. Favreau twenty eight.

1028
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, okay, Right, as we were speaking of all this,

1029
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 2>right as we're preparing to record this, the much rumored

1030
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 2>second New York Time story on Graham Platner's problematic behavior dropped.

1031
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 2>This one talks about his relationships with his past girlfriends.

1032
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Several of them spoke of him fondly. Three others the

1033
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 2>time spoke to described quote, toxic relationships that were unsettling.

1034
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try to quote as much as I

1035
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 2>can here because it is it's a lot to untangle

1036
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.840
<v Speaker 2>in this piece. Yeah, the most prominent voice in the

1037
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 2>piece is a longtime conservative activist. He dated between twenty

1038
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 2>thirteen and twenty fifteen, so I guess this is when

1039
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:07.440
<v Speaker 2>he was in DC. And she said that while Platner

1040
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:11.159
<v Speaker 2>quote never hit me, he once yanked her out of

1041
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 2>a cab by her wrist and also during one argument,

1042
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:16.760
<v Speaker 2>twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a

1043
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 2>bedroom and told her to remain there until she was calm.

1044
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Platner strongly disputes any claims of physical intimidation or altercations.

1045
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.519
<v Speaker 2>This is all according to the Times. Seems like every

1046
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 2>time you're on the show, there's a big turn in

1047
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the Platiner story. So welcome back.

1048
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Coincidence or not?

1049
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 2>What do you think of this one?

1050
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:40.559
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I get the gram Platiner hot potato lamb.

1051
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I really do.

1052
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 3>And there's not even Dan here to, you know, create

1053
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:46.599
<v Speaker 3>some levity around the absurdity of all of this.

1054
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Dan never gets it, by the way.

1055
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.000
<v Speaker 3>I feel like every time, well, it's just a quiet

1056
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:57.039
<v Speaker 3>sort of rivalry that Dan and I have, like Platiner v. Mills. I.

1057
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 3>I will say, there's another part of the piece again

1058
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:07.639
<v Speaker 3>quoted a quote or we're told by this conservative activist

1059
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:11.800
<v Speaker 3>former girlfriend, where she says that Platner had what she

1060
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 3>described as a warrior ethos and would fantasize about killing

1061
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 3>people he deemed a threat. She said that he told

1062
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 3>her that rape was about power. It was something that

1063
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 3>stuck with her through the years. She said he said

1064
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.639
<v Speaker 3>this a lot. If anybody ever broke in here, I

1065
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 3>would rape them, she recalled, saying that he added it

1066
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.400
<v Speaker 3>would not be in a sexual way, not in a

1067
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.119
<v Speaker 3>gay way. He was like, I would rape them to

1068
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:40.239
<v Speaker 3>show them that I'm dominant. Yeah, I mean, okay, this

1069
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.320
<v Speaker 3>is where it's like, this is really this fucking sucks.

1070
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I.

1071
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.000
<v Speaker 3>I want to be a person that has learned the

1072
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:56.719
<v Speaker 3>lessons of like if you have multiple people accusing the

1073
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.800
<v Speaker 3>one person of very similar behavioral power, like there's a

1074
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:05.840
<v Speaker 3>good chance there's something there. This story goes. I mean,

1075
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.400
<v Speaker 3>they go out of their way in the Times piece

1076
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:09.960
<v Speaker 3>to quote girlfriends who were like, he was a gentle giant,

1077
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 3>I have nothing bad to say about him. But then

1078
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:13.719
<v Speaker 3>they're a handful of women that more like I, you know,

1079
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.920
<v Speaker 3>his behavior was sometimes made me feel not safe. And

1080
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 3>then this one in particular, this one ex girlfriend has

1081
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:25.280
<v Speaker 3>the most distressing and in my mind, disqualifying things to

1082
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 3>say about him, and I think, like, we can't, this

1083
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 3>can't be brushed aside. He has to he has to,

1084
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, tackle this head on. And if this was

1085
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:40.639
<v Speaker 3>a Republican everybody would say, no fucking way. Yeah, I

1086
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:42.599
<v Speaker 3>mean that's just the truth. Like with all of this.

1087
00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:46.960
<v Speaker 3>She also said, and then right, well fine, and ultimately

1088
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 3>this is an up to you in me, this is

1089
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 3>up to the voters of Maine. And this is a

1090
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 3>really interesting study. I mean, so much of what Platner

1091
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:57.400
<v Speaker 3>represents was the less answer to the toxic masculinity of

1092
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.639
<v Speaker 3>the right. And what's really fucking unf fortunate is that

1093
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 3>this kind of masculinity, if this stuff is true, is

1094
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:05.800
<v Speaker 3>just as fucking toxic as everything being served.

1095
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 6>On the right.

1096
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:08.079
<v Speaker 3>And there has to be a difference. There has to

1097
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:11.599
<v Speaker 3>be a difference between what the left is proposing men

1098
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:13.920
<v Speaker 3>and strength can look like and what the right is

1099
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 3>because otherwise we as women and the citizens of a

1100
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.599
<v Speaker 3>democracy are completely fucked. So I would love to hear

1101
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot more from Grand Platner on this, like getting

1102
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:25.039
<v Speaker 3>into these allegies. She also suggests that he taught her

1103
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:28.079
<v Speaker 3>the name of his Nazi tattoo and knew very much

1104
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.960
<v Speaker 3>that it was a Nazi tattoo called the my tote

1105
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:31.880
<v Speaker 3>cuff my tote.

1106
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Cof, which makes me is the exact language that was

1107
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 2>used in Andrew Kazinski's piece about this. Because Andrew did

1108
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:40.519
<v Speaker 2>he's a great reporter and said this on Tuesday, we

1109
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:44.559
<v Speaker 2>basically reported that an acquaintance of his said that he

1110
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 2>had told her my tote cough before. So I was like,

1111
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I want it. The language was the same, so I

1112
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.800
<v Speaker 2>wonder if it was the same source. But regardless, look,

1113
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I said on Tuesday Show that Platner's biggest issue going

1114
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 2>forward is trust. Yeah, and there are allegations in this

1115
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:03.199
<v Speaker 2>story about the SSESS symbol and when he found out

1116
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:06.760
<v Speaker 2>and what he knew, And you know, after that, he

1117
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.159
<v Speaker 2>got more questions about, you know, were there any more

1118
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:12.519
<v Speaker 2>skeletons in your closet? He said no. Then the sexting

1119
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.800
<v Speaker 2>story came out, he got more questions about whether there

1120
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 2>are additional allegations coming out from Democratic senators this week,

1121
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 2>and he said nothing like the rumors that have been circulating.

1122
00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to shed the rumors here, but the

1123
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:29.880
<v Speaker 2>rumors have been they have been actually much much worse

1124
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.480
<v Speaker 2>than what The New York Times ended up with and

1125
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:36.039
<v Speaker 2>he said, no, nothing like those rumors that we've been hearing,

1126
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.880
<v Speaker 2>which may be technically true. But now there's this story, right,

1127
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.320
<v Speaker 2>and even if he is completely telling the truth, and

1128
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 2>this is it and he really is a different, better

1129
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 2>person who and he says in the story, I was

1130
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a bad boyfriend, I drank too much. He has said

1131
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:56.159
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of things about how horrible he was before

1132
00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:58.519
<v Speaker 2>he tried to turn his life around, even if he

1133
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:00.840
<v Speaker 2>is telling the truth about that, which I can't judge.

1134
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:03.599
<v Speaker 2>You can't judge, None of us can judge. The problem

1135
00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:06.639
<v Speaker 2>is it's going to be really hard to blame voters

1136
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 2>who wonder whether they can.

1137
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Believe you can't blame voters. But also it's not even

1138
00:56:11.440 --> 00:56:13.960
<v Speaker 3>beyond Justeres that sucks. Is this a person who does

1139
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.760
<v Speaker 3>this stuff? I mean that that's a fun essential question.

1140
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like it is, harp. It is like very difficult.

1141
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:28.199
<v Speaker 3>Well that's what, given how how absolutely asymmetrical, the asymmetrical

1142
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:31.039
<v Speaker 3>the value system is here that democrat, you know, like

1143
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.960
<v Speaker 3>that a person who otherwise has adopted a very sort

1144
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 3>of strong set of beliefs and policies that would help

1145
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:40.840
<v Speaker 3>a large part of this country and seems very much

1146
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:44.320
<v Speaker 3>like he believes those things could be shut down based

1147
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 3>on this. But if this is true, I mean, you can't.

1148
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 3>It's a moral You can't behave like this. You can't

1149
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:51.719
<v Speaker 3>talk about women and do things like this to them.

1150
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 3>You can't talk about rape like that. I mean you

1151
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.480
<v Speaker 3>you cannot fucking do that. That is, those are not

1152
00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the morals of a sensible party. And I don't know,

1153
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:04.519
<v Speaker 3>I I gotta say because I I mean, I remember that,

1154
00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:09.559
<v Speaker 3>and I understand the repulsion of like having the DSCC

1155
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:12.400
<v Speaker 3>involve itself in a Senate race. But everybody was like

1156
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Janet Mills is too old. And I remember talking to

1157
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Dan about this and I was like, I mean, yeah,

1158
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 3>she's old, but like Graham Platner has a lot of

1159
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:22.079
<v Speaker 3>fucking question marks, guys.

1160
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, I mean here's the thing about that is

1161
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.119
<v Speaker 2>two things can be right, fine, but.

1162
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I do It's like I think, like, you know, but

1163
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.400
<v Speaker 3>all I'm saying is, and I see that, like there

1164
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 3>was so much interest in the fact that he could

1165
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.320
<v Speaker 3>be a noose kind of masculinity for the left, and

1166
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:42.159
<v Speaker 3>it's like, I'm sorry that she's old and that she's

1167
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.119
<v Speaker 3>a woman, and that she was governor, but she was

1168
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:45.880
<v Speaker 3>tough in her I'm not a Mills person.

1169
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not and I'm not like if they if if

1170
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:51.719
<v Speaker 2>if you know, if they decide tomorrow like they're gonna

1171
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 2>replace him with Mills and Mills that's all. I'm not

1172
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna be like, Oh no, like great, we need to

1173
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.239
<v Speaker 2>win the fucking seat. That's the most important thing. It's

1174
00:57:57.239 --> 00:57:59.039
<v Speaker 2>not about like, it's not about Grand Platner, right, It's

1175
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:00.679
<v Speaker 2>about it's about winning this it is, and.

1176
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:03.360
<v Speaker 3>You know what, it's a good fucking thing. I was

1177
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 3>back on the map.

1178
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess is that wells like I do try to separate,

1179
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>like this is a political situation and this is like

1180
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:12.599
<v Speaker 2>a personal situation, right, Like imagine if we were talking

1181
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:14.519
<v Speaker 2>about this person and he wasn't running for office. Okay,

1182
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.559
<v Speaker 2>just as an experiment here, because I think this is

1183
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 2>what has been bothering me about it is like I

1184
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:25.599
<v Speaker 2>do very much believe in the ability to redeem oneself

1185
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and to change and to become a better person. And

1186
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I still think it is very possible that this is

1187
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the case with him, that all that stuff in the

1188
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:37.480
<v Speaker 2>past is true. Yeah, and that somewhere along the line,

1189
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:39.760
<v Speaker 2>as he says, he was like, my life is really

1190
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:43.559
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. And you know, people say, like he's blaming

1191
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:46.039
<v Speaker 2>the war, but like you know, every time, every person

1192
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:47.920
<v Speaker 2>who's fucked up is a product of their environment and

1193
00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 2>their own choices. It's both right. And so his own choices,

1194
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 2>his environment led him to this moment where he's really

1195
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. He gets help, He tries to, you know,

1196
00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.320
<v Speaker 2>work in his community, organize people, tries to and over

1197
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:04.000
<v Speaker 2>a new leaf, and then someone's like you should run

1198
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:05.800
<v Speaker 2>for office. He's like me, what the fuck. And then

1199
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.000
<v Speaker 2>he's like, Okay, I guess, but what about my past.

1200
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:11.239
<v Speaker 2>You can do it right, You're you're a changed person.

1201
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 2>And then he does it, and then this is what

1202
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:17.440
<v Speaker 2>happens now. No, No, I'm just saying, Yeah, the more

1203
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.199
<v Speaker 2>these I'm telling you what I feel like, like, the

1204
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:21.760
<v Speaker 2>more these stories come out, the more I'm like, yes,

1205
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that could all be true, but there's a bigger there's

1206
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.840
<v Speaker 2>a bigger there's more at stake here than your personal

1207
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.000
<v Speaker 2>redemption story because we need the sense. So that's sort's

1208
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:30.519
<v Speaker 2>wy I'm landing.

1209
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just saying, and I say one thing to that, though, Yeah,

1210
00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I mean, I think at essence, I

1211
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:38.320
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't divorce the personal from the political in this in

1212
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.719
<v Speaker 3>part because there's been such an assault on women in

1213
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:44.880
<v Speaker 3>this country, whether it's denying them basic reproductive health, continuing

1214
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:48.360
<v Speaker 3>to drag feed on basic you know, maternal health questions,

1215
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:51.559
<v Speaker 3>especially in low income communities, or on paid family leave.

1216
00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:53.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, there are essential questions about how much you

1217
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:57.559
<v Speaker 3>value women and families like these are questions that senators

1218
00:59:57.559 --> 00:59:59.639
<v Speaker 3>are going to have to answer if Democrats have power again.

1219
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.800
<v Speaker 3>There needs to be legislation to address the wrongs and

1220
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:06.639
<v Speaker 3>the assault on women's lives. And you know, you want

1221
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:08.960
<v Speaker 3>people that see women as co equals. You want people

1222
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 3>that see families as you know, an important unit of

1223
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 3>American society and believe in the I don't mean to

1224
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:17.480
<v Speaker 3>sound like some family valuings democrat, but I think you

1225
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:20.199
<v Speaker 3>know it is. This is the reason this stuff bleeds

1226
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 3>into the politicals because those are you're you know, these

1227
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.199
<v Speaker 3>are organizing principles, and if you're living your life in

1228
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:27.760
<v Speaker 3>such violation of some of those principles that you then

1229
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:30.039
<v Speaker 3>need to turn into legislation, it makes you question how

1230
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.639
<v Speaker 3>effective someone's going to be in office if they get there.

1231
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:34.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's all I'll say about it because I

1232
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:38.519
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't know if any of this is true.

1233
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:39.239
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't need that.

1234
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think the excuse, the reasoning that he's given

1235
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.559
<v Speaker 3>us far is sufficient to paper over this new reporting.

1236
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:46.559
<v Speaker 3>I guess is what I would say.

1237
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:48.960
<v Speaker 2>And I guess I'm just saying, like, don't don't we

1238
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:53.960
<v Speaker 2>want people who change and who are like I what

1239
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought back then, what I said back then was

1240
01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 2>fucking wrong, and I actually mean it, And like whether

1241
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:03.320
<v Speaker 2>it's say someone who voted for Trump and who supported Trump,

1242
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:08.400
<v Speaker 2>whether it's a fucking oysterman in Maine, whether it's where

1243
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a party who wants to reabailitate people who serve time

1244
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:14.039
<v Speaker 2>in prison and give them a second chance, who were murders,

1245
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:16.639
<v Speaker 2>and we get attacked for that by Republicans. We say no,

1246
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:20.280
<v Speaker 2>we think it's important to do rehabilitation. And again, I

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01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:22.679
<v Speaker 2>don't people are gonna take this out of context. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that therefore Grand Platter must get a see,

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01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:27.440
<v Speaker 2>we must do it for him. I am just saying

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01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:31.719
<v Speaker 2>that on an individual level, as a party, sometimes I

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01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 2>think that one of our and maybe this is just me,

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01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.119
<v Speaker 2>but like I want to I want to believe well

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01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 2>about people, and then I want to believe that when

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01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.559
<v Speaker 2>people fuck up and do something horrible and are genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>sorry and genuinely want to change, that they are able

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, and that people can accept them for

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<v Speaker 2>doing that, no matter who they are, what they believe,

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01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:55.440
<v Speaker 2>what their background is. Fucking Donald Trump now not Donald Yeah,

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01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:59.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying that is like, that's just

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01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 2>like me therapizing this and just like talking about like

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01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 2>this is this is divorcing it from the Like. I

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01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.159
<v Speaker 2>do think this is a huge fucking problem right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We want people who've made mistakes, because life is full

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01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:14.519
<v Speaker 3>of mistakes. But there are mistakes there, there are patterns

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01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.639
<v Speaker 3>of behavior that suggests that lessons are have not been learned,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there are mistakes that you make and move past.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just don't know which one this falls into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And also it's like and again, how many can

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01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 2>you add up exactly and pile up if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a United States senator? Now, I also think

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01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.519
<v Speaker 2>that it's a The challenge is, you know, contrary to

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<v Speaker 2>what people online have said, like the guy generated an

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01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:37.519
<v Speaker 2>impressive amount of support in Maine, but.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why it doesn't fucking matter what we say.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we already know that, but like, it really

1276
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:45.239
<v Speaker 3>doesn't like it will be very interesting to me as

1277
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.199
<v Speaker 3>someone who's interested in kind of the social currents that

1278
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:50.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I say this as an armchair sociologist, but

1279
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:53.519
<v Speaker 3>whether this is an issue for him, I mean, it's

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01:02:53.679 --> 01:02:56.119
<v Speaker 3>entirely possible. Well, and it also he can move past it.

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01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:57.199
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Also too like it's it's, you know, for all the

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01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:02.679
<v Speaker 2>what did Chuck Schumer and the d SEC do with

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01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Janet Mills or what did the left do forcing Graham

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01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.199
<v Speaker 2>platter on. It's like no one forced Janet Mills on anyone.

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01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:11.800
<v Speaker 2>No one forced Grand Platner on anyone. Graham Platner decided

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01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.599
<v Speaker 2>to run, and a bunch of people showed up. Chuck

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01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Schumer wanted Mills to run, and she said sure, and

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01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.480
<v Speaker 2>she ran a campaign like and then the people of

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01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Maine came out, and you know what, we have a

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01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:24.920
<v Speaker 2>primary on Tuesday, And I do think, like, I mean,

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01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:27.559
<v Speaker 2>he's she's on the ballot. Still there's like one other

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01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:30.920
<v Speaker 2>candidate as well. You expect him to get like if

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01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.400
<v Speaker 2>he was a normal candidate without scandal in a situation

1295
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:36.440
<v Speaker 2>like that, eighty five ninety percent of voty percent. If

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01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:40.400
<v Speaker 2>he's down to like sixty sixty five, it's a real

1297
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.239
<v Speaker 2>fucking problem. Orf And like, I don't want to just

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01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.039
<v Speaker 2>because you don't want to just base it on poles.

1299
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:47.679
<v Speaker 2>But like you know, we haven't seen any poles post

1300
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.519
<v Speaker 2>the sexing scandal except for their internal which had him

1301
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:52.760
<v Speaker 2>only up four for a while. But like, there's gonna

1302
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.239
<v Speaker 2>be plenty of poles that come out. Yeah, and we'll

1303
01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 2>see what happens in the primary. But the party has

1304
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.519
<v Speaker 2>till I believe July thirteenth, if he'd opts out to

1305
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:03.719
<v Speaker 2>replace him with someone else. So there's there's some time here,

1306
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:05.760
<v Speaker 2>there's there's another month of pain.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do this show. This primary is over. Same,

1308
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:11.519
<v Speaker 3>get me out of this seat.

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01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Same. It's but like you said, we'll end it where

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01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 2>you begin. It sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>It fucking sucks, It sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I can't We're just here now, sixty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Melt down at sixty minutes. This, Oh, we show, we

1343
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.840
<v Speaker 2>can go forever. This isn't this as you said, This

1344
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 2>show isn't called sixty minutes.

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01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.280
<v Speaker 3>This is one hundred and ninety whatever we want t

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01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:04.880
<v Speaker 3>t tic tics.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know by now. Ever since Trump hell David

1348
01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Ellison put contrarian conservative columnist Barry Weiss in charge of CBS,

1349
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:14.480
<v Speaker 2>she's taken a special interest in sixty Minutes. Last week,

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01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Weiss fired the show's executive producer, along with several correspondents,

1351
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:21.000
<v Speaker 2>and hired Nick Bilton, a tech journalist with no broadcast experience,

1352
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.400
<v Speaker 2>to run the program. At Bilton's introduction meeting, which Weiss

1353
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:26.719
<v Speaker 2>did not attend, maybe the funniest part of the whole

1354
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:30.079
<v Speaker 2>story now, veteran correspondent Scott Pelley accused Weiss of trying

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01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:33.639
<v Speaker 2>to quote murder the show, and according to recordings of

1356
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 2>the meeting that have circulated shortly after that, Pelly was

1357
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:39.679
<v Speaker 2>fired and then on his way out, publicly accused Weiss

1358
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and CBS leadership of instructing him to quote inject falsehoods

1359
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and bias and unverified assertions into quote a politically sensitive story.

1360
01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:52.719
<v Speaker 2>You worked at CBS News for a while. I know

1361
01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you've been writing about the story a bunch on your

1362
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:56.119
<v Speaker 2>excellent substack.

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01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:58.119
<v Speaker 3>How the hell with Alex Wagner?

1364
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Perfect title, hellfe It's a great name for a substack.

1365
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Care to unquirk on this one?

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01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1367
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 4>I do.

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01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:06.079
<v Speaker 3>How much time we got? Can you hear the sound

1369
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:07.400
<v Speaker 3>of me rubbing my hands together?

1370
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Please do it.

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<v Speaker 6>So?

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<v Speaker 3>I have so much to say about this, but I

1373
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.280
<v Speaker 3>know I can't spend an hour on I can't spend

1374
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:22.079
<v Speaker 3>sixty minutes on it. It's appalling what Barry Weiss is doing.

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01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:27.079
<v Speaker 3>It is all part of a project that Barry Weiss

1376
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:29.079
<v Speaker 3>is a small player and a larger machine, which is

1377
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:32.800
<v Speaker 3>for the Ellisons. I mean, I actually don't think David Ellison,

1378
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:37.519
<v Speaker 3>who I refer to as Lord Collagen on my substack.

1379
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.199
<v Speaker 3>Have you noticed how just moving that rice a lot

1380
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:42.679
<v Speaker 3>but also just ripe. The ripeness of his cheeks and

1381
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:46.480
<v Speaker 3>lips shiny, very collagen filled, but not I think he's

1382
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.760
<v Speaker 3>naturally just peach like. Anyway we'll go with that. He

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really, I mean, I think they're conservatives. This

1384
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:57.079
<v Speaker 3>is I mean they are. They want to make a

1385
01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:58.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of money, and the way they're going to do

1386
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.920
<v Speaker 3>that is by currying with this the Trump administration by

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01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:05.199
<v Speaker 3>any means possible, and they've figured out wisely that the

1388
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:07.039
<v Speaker 3>best way to do that and ensure that they can

1389
01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.480
<v Speaker 3>proceed with the paramount Warner Brothers Discovery merger, which is

1390
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:12.960
<v Speaker 3>supposed to happen as soon as next month, is to

1391
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:16.520
<v Speaker 3>show Trump that they have no compunction about gutting legendary

1392
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.760
<v Speaker 3>news institutions and destroying the Fourth Estate if it's inconvenient

1393
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:23.319
<v Speaker 3>to this president. And that's what's happening here. And you know,

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01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Barry Weiss is a fool. I will say that this

1395
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:32.840
<v Speaker 3>is foolish, bad, a moral, unethical behavior. She's hollowing out

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01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:37.159
<v Speaker 3>this institution that was one of the last you know,

1397
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 3>we talk about this moment in American life when people

1398
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:42.319
<v Speaker 3>used to gather around and watch things on the television

1399
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.479
<v Speaker 3>sixty minutes is like the last bit of appointment television we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have in modern culture. We've had a real monoculture problem

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01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:49.199
<v Speaker 2>in this country last ten.

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01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Years, and it's I don't think much is going to

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01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.439
<v Speaker 3>exist of it at the end of all of this,

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01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:57.079
<v Speaker 3>and that's a real travesty because I don't think you

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01:08:57.119 --> 01:08:59.079
<v Speaker 3>ever get those viewers back. I mean, that's the problem

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01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.119
<v Speaker 3>with broadcast. It's an iceberg that melts, and once it's melted,

1407
01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:06.039
<v Speaker 3>there's no refreezing. And so you know what I would

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01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:09.600
<v Speaker 3>love to see in all of this is the people

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01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:14.680
<v Speaker 3>who count in terms of the ellisons life and financials

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01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:16.520
<v Speaker 3>say something about it, which means I sit here in

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01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles, California, and the thing that the Ellisons are

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<v Speaker 3>interested is television and movies. That's their bread and butter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what makes money for the Ellisons and Paramount and

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01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:27.479
<v Speaker 3>like it is one thing for Alex Wagner and Jon

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01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.199
<v Speaker 3>Favreau to stand in solidarity with Scott Pelley and the

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01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:34.239
<v Speaker 3>staff of CVS and sixty minutes. It's another thing for

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01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:37.159
<v Speaker 3>everybody who's on a Taylor Sharedan or Tyler Sheridan show

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01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:39.600
<v Speaker 3>to say, Hey, you can't gut the fourth Estate. Just

1419
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:42.680
<v Speaker 3>because you want to make money on entertainment. It's like,

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01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.560
<v Speaker 3>where are all the people that have movies made by Paramount?

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01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Where are the people that have TV shows made by Parau?

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01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:50.079
<v Speaker 3>This is their fight too, because this is an issue

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01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.520
<v Speaker 3>of free speech, and until and unless they stand up,

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01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:54.560
<v Speaker 3>it's not going to make a difference. News doesn't fucking

1425
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:58.000
<v Speaker 3>make money. News is an afterthought. This is an inconvenience

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01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:00.199
<v Speaker 3>for the Ellisons. The only thing they care about is

1427
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.439
<v Speaker 3>making money through entertainment. And until the entertainment world stands

1428
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:05.880
<v Speaker 3>up and says you can't do this, you know, a

1429
01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.560
<v Speaker 3>crime against one of us in terms of free speech

1430
01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:10.439
<v Speaker 3>is a crime against all of us. This goes nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You can tell that Nick Bilton, did you see like

1432
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:17.079
<v Speaker 2>his long note that he put out today where he

1433
01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:20.159
<v Speaker 2>was like, and I, you know, we're committed to transparency

1434
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and honest journalism. And I've talked to Leslie Stall and

1435
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:26.479
<v Speaker 2>the remaining correspondents, and you know, you can tell there's

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01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:27.880
<v Speaker 2>a little he's a little worried.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he should be a lot worried, a lot worried.

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<v Speaker 2>And they and they promoted Maria Gavrilovitch to senior producer.

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01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Who's think we both know. I know, I've known for

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01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:37.920
<v Speaker 2>a while and she's fantastic.

1441
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:39.840
<v Speaker 3>When I worked at CBS News, we weren't allowed to

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01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:41.399
<v Speaker 3>cross the street to go over to sixty minutes.

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01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:43.079
<v Speaker 2>You had to like that's how they Wow.

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01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:46.159
<v Speaker 3>It was a separate office with better lighting, better everything.

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01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:48.319
<v Speaker 3>I think it was like soundproofed, so you never knew

1446
01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 3>what was happening.

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01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:50.840
<v Speaker 2>You know what's really annoyed me about this, I mean

1448
01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:52.720
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of it. Everything you said is like

1449
01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:57.560
<v Speaker 2>right on the sources that are saying to media reporters

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01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:01.560
<v Speaker 2>about this. You know, the culture was kind of bad

1451
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:05.279
<v Speaker 2>at sixteen minutes, and it's not everyone, you know, all

1452
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:08.399
<v Speaker 2>you tds, libs think it's all politics, but there was

1453
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:10.720
<v Speaker 2>a culture problem that needed to be solved and this

1454
01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:12.680
<v Speaker 2>is just maybe a bit of a rough way to

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01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:12.960
<v Speaker 2>do it.

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01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Fuck off, I mean, yeah, it drives me nuts well,

1457
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.319
<v Speaker 3>and is someone I was on the fucking the farm

1458
01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:22.920
<v Speaker 3>team over at CBS right, I was doing CBS this Morning,

1459
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:24.520
<v Speaker 3>CBS this Morning on the weekends, like I was the

1460
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.560
<v Speaker 3>bottom feeder, and you look enviously across the street. But

1461
01:11:27.840 --> 01:11:30.399
<v Speaker 3>there was a reason you were envious because the quality

1462
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:33.880
<v Speaker 3>of investigative research and reporting they were doing was was

1463
01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:36.079
<v Speaker 3>barn on. I mean, there was just no nothing like it,

1464
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:39.800
<v Speaker 3>and they deserved to be an island under themselves because

1465
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:41.359
<v Speaker 3>of the rigor of what they were doing and the

1466
01:11:41.479 --> 01:11:44.119
<v Speaker 3>audience that they commanded, you know what. I mean. Sorry

1467
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:46.319
<v Speaker 3>that they were on top, and sorry that it sucked

1468
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:49.039
<v Speaker 3>for everybody else, and especially the CBS News division, which

1469
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:52.560
<v Speaker 3>was starved into obsolescence and left to eat you know,

1470
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:55.439
<v Speaker 3>moldy green beans in the cafeteria from nineteen seventy six.

1471
01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:57.680
<v Speaker 3>That was literally something that I did on a daily basis.

1472
01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:01.880
<v Speaker 3>But like they earned that reputation for a reason. And

1473
01:12:02.119 --> 01:12:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the shadenfreude around this among news industry veterans and people

1474
01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:08.640
<v Speaker 3>who once worked there, Fuck off. This is not about

1475
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.359
<v Speaker 3>like a dick swinging contest about who got what resources.

1476
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.199
<v Speaker 3>This is about attacks on the free press, and this

1477
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:19.079
<v Speaker 3>administration through the lackeys that it has put in its corner,

1478
01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:22.600
<v Speaker 3>disassembling like one of the last great institutions.

1479
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.760
<v Speaker 2>It's also it's like you think there's a culture issue,

1480
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:26.520
<v Speaker 2>you think it's a fossil, You think it needs to

1481
01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:30.000
<v Speaker 2>be updated for the digital age. Fine, think about all

1482
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:32.279
<v Speaker 2>the ways to do that. Yes, that are not this

1483
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:36.760
<v Speaker 2>because if you wanted to do that, Like you'd have

1484
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:39.079
<v Speaker 2>to be you'd have to be really fucking incompetent to

1485
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:41.039
<v Speaker 2>do it this way more or so, and like you're

1486
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:42.399
<v Speaker 2>not going to tell me, like Barry Weis's a lot

1487
01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:43.520
<v Speaker 2>of things, you're not going to tell me that she

1488
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and Nick Bilton and all the rest of them are

1489
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:47.960
<v Speaker 2>this fucking dumb that they think that this was the

1490
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.560
<v Speaker 2>best way to change the culture at sixty minutes.

1491
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:53.760
<v Speaker 3>It's totally vindictive, and none of them have any qualifications,

1492
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.399
<v Speaker 3>Like show me the media companies that either one of

1493
01:12:56.439 --> 01:12:58.159
<v Speaker 3>them have turned around, Show me the experience they have

1494
01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.960
<v Speaker 3>in television, a broadcaster, news they got not Yea, it's bad, Goosey.

1495
01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:04.439
<v Speaker 2>It's bad. All right, It's been a long show. But

1496
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 2>before we go, before we go, I have to the

1497
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.760
<v Speaker 2>deep tease, all right. So I'm just going to you

1498
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:11.399
<v Speaker 2>know some of this.

1499
01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:14.159
<v Speaker 3>You know something I only I thought I had too martinis.

1500
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.039
<v Speaker 2>When that's true, that's true. I did tell you that.

1501
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna read aloud to all of you. An

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01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:24.079
<v Speaker 2>email I received on March twenty fifth, a couple months ago. Now,

1503
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:30.000
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, it's from TKO Events. TKO Events sent

1504
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.880
<v Speaker 2>it to me. John Favreau and the subject line of

1505
01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the email is UFC Freedom two fifty, John. We are

1506
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:40.880
<v Speaker 2>honored to invite you to UFC Freedom to fifty on Sunday,

1507
01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:44.680
<v Speaker 2>June fourteenth, a special evening celebrating our country. This once

1508
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:46.800
<v Speaker 2>in a lifetime event marks a historic moment, and we

1509
01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:49.159
<v Speaker 2>would love to have you join us. This invitation is

1510
01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:51.479
<v Speaker 2>non transferable and does not include a plus one. We

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01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 2>need your RSVP by Tuesday, March thirty first, as there

1512
01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:59.840
<v Speaker 2>are significant logistics with the White House. More details to follow.

1513
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:04.119
<v Speaker 2>So I saw this and it was like, Uh, is

1514
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:07.199
<v Speaker 2>this a joke? Did someone prank me? And why am

1515
01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:10.319
<v Speaker 2>I invited to the White House? And I'm And then

1516
01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I looked and in the CC line of tk Events

1517
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:16.680
<v Speaker 2>was Ari Emmanuel, who owns TKO Events. And then I

1518
01:14:16.720 --> 01:14:19.680
<v Speaker 2>looked up TKO Events. I'm like, oh, and they own UFC.

1519
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And then and then I did a little digging and

1520
01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, so Trump had all his tickets.

1521
01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:26.920
<v Speaker 2>There's four thousand tickets. Trump gets most of them. Some

1522
01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:29.680
<v Speaker 2>go to the military, two hundred go to Ari Emmanuel

1523
01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:32.119
<v Speaker 2>at TKO events, two hundred go to Dana White. And

1524
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Ari chose me because what I thought is he thinks

1525
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I was the other John Favreau. Yes, because way back

1526
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:44.640
<v Speaker 2>when I was represented at WM and I believe that

1527
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Ari was John's agent, and I think John must like

1528
01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:51.560
<v Speaker 2>UFC fights or whatever. But anyway, I r s v

1529
01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:54.319
<v Speaker 2>p'd yes because I thought, fuck it, I'm going to

1530
01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the White House and I'm gonna go in there. I'm

1531
01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna and I'm gonna and I'm gonna check it out.

1532
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'll see my Eddie Stephen Miller or my friend

1533
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Ja d E Vans and chat them up.

1534
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:05.600
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna climb the octagon.

1535
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Possibilities were unless, so I RSVP'd. I got this follow

1536
01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:11.479
<v Speaker 2>up on April second. Your ticket to UFC Freedom two

1537
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.800
<v Speaker 2>fifty in Washington, d C on June fourteenth is confirmed.

1538
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Ticketing and arrival details surrounding your visit will be sent

1539
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.079
<v Speaker 2>from TKO Events during the week of June eighth. Please

1540
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:23.199
<v Speaker 2>reach out with any questions and let us know if

1541
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:26.159
<v Speaker 2>you're no longer able to attend. Thank you. So I'm like, okay,

1542
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:28.399
<v Speaker 2>it's still happening. A few weeks ago, on May eleventh,

1543
01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I got another email ahead of your trip to Washington,

1544
01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:34.560
<v Speaker 2>DC for the historic UFC Freedom to fifty. We are

1545
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:38.319
<v Speaker 2>collecting identification details from each guest due to the heightened

1546
01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:40.439
<v Speaker 2>level of security that will be in placed throughout the weekend.

1547
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:42.720
<v Speaker 2>The information is required to ensure there are no issues

1548
01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:45.720
<v Speaker 2>with ticket distribution. So I gave them all my info.

1549
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:50.720
<v Speaker 2>On May twenty seventh, I got more details, including suggested

1550
01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:53.720
<v Speaker 2>dress code, business formal, a reminder to bring my government

1551
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:57.000
<v Speaker 2>issued ID, instructions of how to get my ticket the

1552
01:15:57.079 --> 01:16:01.159
<v Speaker 2>week of the fight, a whole thing. So I had,

1553
01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:02.279
<v Speaker 2>I made plans.

1554
01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:04.600
<v Speaker 3>You bought a ticket, bought a ticket to DC.

1555
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:08.560
<v Speaker 2>To DC like booked a hotel, had a whole meeting here.

1556
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I had a whole meeting here with everyone. It was

1557
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.439
<v Speaker 2>It's Sunday, June fourteenth. The next day I was going

1558
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to Chicago for the Obama Library. It probably not too

1559
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:22.640
<v Speaker 2>many people go into both of those things, nahdah. It

1560
01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:24.520
<v Speaker 2>was very excited trying to figure out, like how am

1561
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I going to play this? What if I get right?

1562
01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:29.560
<v Speaker 2>What's going on? And then today no another email from

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01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:35.439
<v Speaker 2>TKO events. Hi Jonathan. Now, when I gave all my info,

1564
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:37.800
<v Speaker 2>of course I gave my real info, which is Jonathan

1565
01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Edward Favreau. And the only thing that's different between me

1566
01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and the other John Favreau is our middle name. He's

1567
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.920
<v Speaker 2>he's he's j O N two, but he's K John

1568
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.439
<v Speaker 2>K Favron. I'm John E. And I think because then

1569
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:50.560
<v Speaker 2>also they went with my full name. I think then

1570
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:52.760
<v Speaker 2>they probably when they saw that they finally checked the list.

1571
01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Are sincerest apologies, but we've just discovered there was a

1572
01:16:56.720 --> 01:17:00.600
<v Speaker 2>miscommunication about our allotted number of guest invitations for UFC

1573
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Freedom to fifty on June fourteenth. Unfortunately, as a result,

1574
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:07.239
<v Speaker 2>we are under allotted and no longer able to accommodate

1575
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:10.840
<v Speaker 2>your attendance. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

1576
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your understanding. We would love to host

1577
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you at a future event.

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01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:17.279
<v Speaker 3>It's perfect for the for the third and Hon, I

1579
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:19.319
<v Speaker 3>was so close got me. I knew you know what.

1580
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I knew something must have gone awry because you certainly

1581
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:22.640
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be broadcasting this.

1582
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:24.800
<v Speaker 2>No, I was gonna keep it all secret. I wasn't

1583
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:30.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna say anything until I was safely out of there. Yeah,

1584
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:32.239
<v Speaker 2>no way was I going to say anything.

1585
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm devastated. To anybody who's listening to this, you should

1586
01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 3>be watching it on YouTube because Favre's like the way

1587
01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.439
<v Speaker 3>his eyes dance when he talks about this.

1588
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It was so it was such a fun story.

1589
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god's like watching a balloon take flight like

1590
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:48.359
<v Speaker 3>the Glee.

1591
01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I will say that. It was like, it's such a

1592
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:51.800
<v Speaker 2>fun story. But as I was getting closer, I'm like,

1593
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:52.960
<v Speaker 2>what is this going to be?

1594
01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1595
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:54.479
<v Speaker 2>What am I going to do? Oh?

1596
01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:56.600
<v Speaker 3>We I mean, I really was like, can we put

1597
01:17:56.600 --> 01:17:58.720
<v Speaker 3>a GoPro in your trench coat? Can we? Can we

1598
01:17:58.760 --> 01:17:59.920
<v Speaker 3>put love It in your trench coat?

1599
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:01.199
<v Speaker 2>I started to figure out because I'm like, you know,

1600
01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:03.680
<v Speaker 2>been to White House events and inside the White House

1601
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:07.239
<v Speaker 2>they always take people's phones for at least we did. Yeah,

1602
01:18:07.279 --> 01:18:09.600
<v Speaker 2>well but who knows what these people anything but on

1603
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the South Lawn and I know it's high screwed them.

1604
01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I bet people are gonna be taking pictures

1605
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:14.399
<v Speaker 2>all over the place in the South Line. So I

1606
01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:16.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't think they were gonna be taking my phone. But

1607
01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:18.359
<v Speaker 2>also I was like, what if I get recognized? Are

1608
01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:20.039
<v Speaker 2>they gonna kick me out? It's going to happen, Like

1609
01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:21.600
<v Speaker 2>am I going to talk to someone? I'm that type

1610
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:23.119
<v Speaker 2>was going to go up and like yell at someone.

1611
01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe your shrink bill will be less because

1612
01:18:26.720 --> 01:18:29.199
<v Speaker 3>you had to have a lot of contingencies. But I mean, really,

1613
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:31.840
<v Speaker 3>the service you could have done our country again climbing

1614
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:36.039
<v Speaker 3>the octagon unfurling. You know, I'll let the meat cake

1615
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:38.920
<v Speaker 3>banner over the over the White House Portico. I mean,

1616
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:39.600
<v Speaker 3>there were so many.

1617
01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Part what if?

1618
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:41.319
<v Speaker 6>What if?

1619
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:43.720
<v Speaker 2>They? I was like, is there gonna be a lawyer

1620
01:18:43.800 --> 01:18:44.159
<v Speaker 2>on hand?

1621
01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Listen? Precautions could have been taken. We would have gotten

1622
01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:51.840
<v Speaker 3>the X X bill team, could have gotten ice was there.

1623
01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:54.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of ways it could have gotten wrong.

1624
01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Listen. I mean, I just hope that the mistakes continue

1625
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:00.279
<v Speaker 3>with their mailing list. This is a lot like I mean,

1626
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:02.720
<v Speaker 3>maybe you'll be invited to perform at Freedom to fifty.

1627
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Because they confused, which is now just a Trump rally.

1628
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:07.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, apparently he's the greatest performer in America.

1629
01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I do hope that other Jon Favreau gets his invite.

1630
01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Now, other John Favreau. This is a holly You have

1631
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:15.640
<v Speaker 3>a Hollywood audience. If someone out there can talk to

1632
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:16.920
<v Speaker 3>John Favreau.

1633
01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:19.960
<v Speaker 2>And I well, I did I know John Favreau, but like, well,

1634
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:22.479
<v Speaker 2>my car, I'm close to him. He's not well clearly

1635
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:23.439
<v Speaker 2>not close enough that I was going.

1636
01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:25.920
<v Speaker 3>To tell him exactly you were going to take his

1637
01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Now he hates you.

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01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, yeah, someone he'll understand. It's a great story.

1639
01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:33.039
<v Speaker 3>If I showed up and just like, yes, well that

1640
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.000
<v Speaker 3>would have been interesting. Someone Robert Downey Junior, are you

1641
01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:40.119
<v Speaker 3>out there, like, have other Favreau give this Favreau his ticket.

1642
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:42.520
<v Speaker 2>That's a good idea. No plus ones, So yeah, I

1643
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:44.520
<v Speaker 2>would have to take it anyway. I'm glad that I

1644
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:45.920
<v Speaker 2>shared that you got it off my chest.

1645
01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:50.359
<v Speaker 3>What a beautiful dessert. Beautiful dessert, fantastically depressing episode.

1646
01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:52.239
<v Speaker 2>That is our show for today. Tommy will be back

1647
01:19:52.279 --> 01:19:54.960
<v Speaker 2>on the Feed on Sunday with a conversation with the Bulwarks,

1648
01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:59.000
<v Speaker 2>will summer about the MAGA media ecosystem and all the

1649
01:19:59.079 --> 01:19:59.760
<v Speaker 2>latest dramas.

1650
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Check that out.

1651
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Have a great weekend. Thanks Alex.

1652
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:02.880
<v Speaker 3>It'splasure to be here.

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01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Podsave America is a Crooked Media production. Our show is

1654
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:08.319
<v Speaker 2>produced by Austin Fisher, Saul Ruben, McKenna Roberts, and Ferris

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<v Speaker 2>Safari with Ree Jerlin, Elijah Cone and Adrian Hill. Our

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<v Speaker 2>team includes Matt de Groat, Ben Hefcote, Jordan Cantor, Charlottelandis

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<v Speaker 2>Krol pel Avive, David Toles, Mia Kelman, Ryan Young, and

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<v Speaker 2>Naomi Single. Our staff is probably unionized with the Writers

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<v Speaker 2>Guild of America East