WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:47.320 O friend of the are, Hello, and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.479 This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan, 3 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.079 I'm Jacob and today for the first time, and actually, 4 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:57.399 I don't know why it took so long to get 5 00:00:57.399 --> 00:00:59.200 you guys on this show. We've talked to you a 6 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:02.520 couple of times and other circles and on your show, 7 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:05.400 but for the very first time, Welcome to the Cult 8 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.840 of Conspiracy, the Legit Bat Podcast. 9 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:13.200 Oh well, thank you very much. Cheers ourselves since nobody's clapping. 10 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:15.200 Beautiful, you got it. 11 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.239 I think it took a while though, because I know 12 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.480 we talked to you guys several years ago. I think 13 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.879 it's been like three years. And then I was looking 14 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:24.680 through old like we said on the show we did 15 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:26.760 with you guys, I was looking through shows and I'm like, shit, 16 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.640 we haven't got them on in a while. So, you know, 17 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:32.480 for your listeners, we had you on our channel a 18 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:34.519 couple of weeks ago and it was super fun. So 19 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.640 thanks for having us on because this will be great. 20 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:40.799 Of course, yeah, no, of course it will be. Yes, 21 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.200 that's just how it is over here, especially you guys 22 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:45.519 and then mixing with us. It's just I don't know, 23 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:47.840 where it's going to go. We didn't really go into 24 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.959 this with a topic in mind, but we are all 25 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:53.319 conspiracy theorists, and I'm sure something. 26 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:53.560 Will come up. 27 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:57.879 I was actually listening to your show earlier, as a 28 00:01:57.959 --> 00:01:59.560 matter of fact, and you had a guest on not 29 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.680 that long. It was like your second to last podcast, 30 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.519 and it was the guy who wrote a funny thing 31 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:07.239 happened on the Way that on the Way to the 32 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:12.039 Moon and Bart Sebrell, My god, what a stud that 33 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:12.719 guy is. 34 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.240 He's awesome. I that was on my list and I 35 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:21.759 finally got contact infox for him, and for some reason 36 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:23.520 he said he'd come on our show. I don't know why, 37 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:26.319 but I was stoked that he did. So we actually 38 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.080 want to have him back on and see, you know, 39 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:31.960 if there's any you know, updates or whatever. Everybody asked 40 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.360 the same questions to these types of people like Bart 41 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.479 sebral I guess has been on Rogan. I didn't even 42 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.840 know that when I scheduled him. So he's been on 43 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.840 like some big ship and then he comes on our 44 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:45.039 stupid show and I'm like, uh, what do I even 45 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:47.000 ask this guy? Like? Is the earth flat? 46 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:49.479 He did you ask him? 47 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:49.879 With that? 48 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.719 Not in so many words, but I I kind of 49 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.159 alluded to it near the end, and he was like 50 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:00.599 basically like, no, the Earth is not flat. Like, okay, 51 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:03.120 I'll leave that for you to debate with somebody else. 52 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:04.080 I'm not the guy for this. 53 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:05.800 He's got other stuff going on though, to worry about 54 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:08.120 the shape of the Earth. He's like, everyone's lying to us, 55 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:10.120 and that's just one more lie. 56 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:12.840 But I feel like questioning the moon landings is kind 57 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.039 of the gateway drug, uh, to questioning if the Earth 58 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:16.479 is flat? 59 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:18.080 And so if you're. 60 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:24.240 Completely yeah, yeah, if you're completely bought into the moon landings, 61 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.360 which we bounce back and forth with that all the 62 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.319 time over here. Yes, the footage was absolutely fake and 63 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:36.479 also extremely homosexual, and and but does that necessarily mean 64 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:38.960 that we never went What are your thoughts on that, 65 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:42.080 or both of y'all's thoughts if we ever actually did go, 66 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.120 I mean, forget about the footage and all that other shit. 67 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.199 Do you think we physically went to the moon? 68 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.199 Yeah, that's funny. That's something that Joe Rogan actually said 69 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:52.479 to him when he did the episode with him. I 70 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:56.479 believe he said, just because the footage was fake doesn't 71 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.080 mean we didn't actually go, you know like it. It 72 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.599 means that maybe we did get footage, we weren't able 73 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:04.319 to record it and send it back, But it doesn't 74 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:08.319 mean that they wanted to show us something that ended 75 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:11.800 up still being you know, ended up being false. Like 76 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:16.000 I definitely think the footage is bullshit. Yeah, obviously, how 77 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:18.319 can you prove if you start something off with a lie, 78 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.360 how are you going to convince people it really happened. 79 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.199 So I don't blame people for doubting it. 80 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:25.120 It's the same It seems like a cop out kind of, 81 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.160 but it the same way as I do almost everything 82 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.720 nowadays in twenty twenty four, where I'm not saying I 83 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:33.759 know what it is or what the shape is, or 84 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:37.000 whether it happened or whatever. All I'm saying is that 85 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:41.319 whatever we're told is not true to a whatever degree 86 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.079 you want to, you know, put on that there's something 87 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.560 about it that's not true for the most part most everything. 88 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:48.720 So when people fight about like the shape of the Earth, 89 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.040 I'm like, I'm less concerned with the shape of the 90 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:53.639 earth or I want to know what the fuck we're 91 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:58.319 living on. And it's almost verifiably false that what NASA 92 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:02.360 tells us it is to me, it's verifiably false that 93 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:04.959 what they tell us is what it is. And we 94 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.040 recently had a guy I named Mark Goeber. I highly 95 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.160 recommend if you want to talk to this guy, smart 96 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:14.399 as shit Princeton graduate, you know, for you know, if 97 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:17.920 that means anything to anybody. But he's written several books 98 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.720 and the way he comes at it is the exact 99 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:25.519 way that I do, only less articulate, obviously, But he 100 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:27.480 comes at it like I don't know what it is, 101 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:30.439 but here's proof that it's not what we're told it is. 102 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.920 And he does that with a lot of things. Germ 103 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:36.319 theory flatters all that kind of thing, and the way 104 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:38.839 real quick recommend him on. But that's kind of that's 105 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:39.519 my stance. 106 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.439 What do you mean by not do you mean strictly 107 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.560 the shape is not what NASA is saying it is, 108 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:47.000 or like the composition of it, like there's a layer 109 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.040 of magma underneath us and all that, Like to what 110 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:52.000 level do you mean that they're lying to us? 111 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.000 So this is this is why he's actually applying you know, 112 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.279 science to it is because he came at it like 113 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.240 and just a few years ago he actually has a podcast. 114 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:06.040 It's like several episodes and it's just kind of a series. 115 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:10.360 But he actually talks about, you know, Copernicus being mocked 116 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.279 for thinking the Earth was a spear and all this 117 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.680 kind of thing, and he actually kind of backtracked on 118 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:20.279 that later because he figured out this dude proved that 119 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:23.759 dark matter is not the real thing, like he disproved 120 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:26.600 dark matter. And the way he explains is that dark 121 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:30.879 matter is the the lynchpin kind of for the whole 122 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:35.040 theory behind the Earth being a spinning ball gravity, right, 123 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:41.759 and so dark matter he explains it interesting, I believe this. 124 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:42.279 I don't know. 125 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:43.920 No, no, no, I'm not questioning you. 126 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:47.160 It's like a peer review journal article that this guy wrote. 127 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:48.759 I wish I couldn't remember the guy's name. 128 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:50.319 I'll look it up. 129 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.480 But he was just saying, there reason the existence for 130 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.839 dark matter is how we think of gravity, how gravity works. 131 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.439 So if dark matter doesn't exist, then then gravity isn't 132 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:06.199 necessarily real and doesn't mean it means that we're not 133 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:09.639 necessarily on a rotating ball flying through space. 134 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.079 Right. So that's why he's not really. 135 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:13.720 Saying, like I know what it is. He's just saying 136 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:14.160 it's not this. 137 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:16.360 That's what I loved about he came at it saying, 138 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.439 I don't know what it is, but it's not this 139 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.399 provably in my, you know, opinion, because of all of 140 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:25.920 this evidence cit he compiled. So that's what I love 141 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:28.000 about it. And so he doesn't come out he's not 142 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:31.600 a flat earther per se, but he'll get paid like 143 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:33.920 that because he doesn't think it's a spinning fucking ball. 144 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:36.519 So and I love that too, because I'm kind of 145 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:38.600 right in the middle, like agnostic like that too, where 146 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.160 I'm like, I I don't know what it is, but 147 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.480 I know we're being lied to, probably on both ends, 148 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.839 and I just want to know. Are we in like 149 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.920 a TV? Are we in Legends of Zelda? And it's 150 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.480 neither flat nor round because we're just in this like 151 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.839 two dimensional screen? You know, dude, I that's actually days 152 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:57.120 on that. 153 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:00.399 But that's how I felt, for that's actually current how 154 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:03.160 I feel as far as the shape of the earth. 155 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:04.319 Like, I'm not gonna lie. 156 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.839 I went through a couple of years of being a 157 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:09.600 full on flat earther, like you could not convince me 158 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.319 that it wasn't flat. I was so convinced. But then 159 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:15.920 I tried mushrooms, and then I tried DMT, and then 160 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:18.319 I tried a different form of D and T and 161 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:21.439 I was like, oh, so it very well could just 162 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:24.279 be like that. We live in a simulation and that's 163 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.720 why it seems flat, but from outer space it's more round. 164 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.600 And because in a simulation or in a matrix, our 165 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:34.039 minds are pretty much incapable of comprehending the exact composition 166 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:36.279 of whatever the fuck is all around us. And so 167 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:41.240 now I'm kind of just on the double toroid kind of. 168 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:43.120 Idea. 169 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.440 I feel like that makes Yeah, it kind of makes 170 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.240 the most amount of sense that it talks about the 171 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.480 plane of inertia, which would make it seem like it's flat. 172 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:53.080 And but I don't know, dude. 173 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:55.759 I think that if you're ever looking to any kind 174 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:58.879 of government agency for an answer, as for any kind 175 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:01.679 of truth, it's just, you know, you're just gonna be 176 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:04.039 fucking talked in circles with it and are They're just 177 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:05.879 going to feed you some kind of bullshit and you 178 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:07.559 kind of just have to have faith in it. And 179 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:10.360 I lost faith in the government and all of the 180 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:12.240 three letter agencies a long time ago. 181 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:18.080 I'm still yard one hundred percent the three letter agencies 182 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.440 don't tell me that the laws of physics tell me that. 183 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.360 But that's just me from my very uh you know, 184 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.320 grounded perspective. 185 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.799 Which which law of physics are you applying to it? Specifically? 186 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:32.960 Which what's the first? What is the first law? 187 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:33.200 You know? 188 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:34.879 Them? 189 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.279 Like all of them, and how all of them can 190 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.519 only work if we are on some sort of a 191 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.799 spherical playing field. But again, I am not a physicist 192 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:47.320 and I am not an expert in these fields. All 193 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:51.919 I am saying is that from my understanding of how 194 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.360 things work, it makes sense that we live on a 195 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.120 ball and that the story that they told us in 196 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:57.360 science class makes sense. 197 00:09:57.399 --> 00:09:58.799 But right, I. 198 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.919 Guess my question was though, no, go ahead. 199 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.080 Oh, I was just gonna say, that's the most interesting 200 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:06.759 thing is because I've listened. I have a lot of 201 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.840 friends and a lot of fellow podcasters, and I've listened 202 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.679 to debates and all that stuff. Literally neither side can 203 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:17.879 one prove their point or prove one way or the other, 204 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:24.120 but they they believe it is. And the other weird 205 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:25.759 thing is that a lot of the things that work 206 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.799 on a globe model also work on the flat model. 207 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:32.320 In their view, of course, the way that they describe it, 208 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:35.440 it's like that could work that way too, But like 209 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:38.120 you said, the only thing, a lot of these things, 210 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:40.080 you just have to just believe it. You just have 211 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:41.480 to take it on faith. And you know what that's 212 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:42.759 called a cult. 213 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:44.639 It is. 214 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:48.720 Take your fair same thing. 215 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:51.080 The flat Earth movement, dude, I don't throw shade. 216 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:53.240 They've uncovered a lot of things and a lot of 217 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.320 research has been done in a lot of amazing places. 218 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.240 I just haven't seen a model of the flat earth 219 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.720 aside from like simulation theory. Which fine, Fine, if like 220 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.759 you're the type of flat earther that believes this is 221 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:09.000 all a matrix, then like I disagree, but respectfully, I 222 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.120 get where you're coming from, and like we can agree 223 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:12.600 to disagree peacefully, you know what I mean. 224 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:13.440 That's that's cool. 225 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:18.159 But we like that well, I mean, the matrix theory 226 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:20.279 is the same theory as like if we all died 227 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.559 in twenty twelve and we don't know it yet because 228 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.559 our brain is still firing off the last of our 229 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:27.720 chemicals that go on for seven minutes after the brain 230 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:30.679 stops getting oxygen, so like we are all in a 231 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:31.240 dreamer like. 232 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.159 Lost, we're actually already dead. 233 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:39.120 Exactly, yeah, exactly, So like matrix theory, that theory or 234 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:42.879 you know, these I could at least appreciate, you know 235 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:44.600 what I mean. I might disagree with them for my 236 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:48.080 own personal reasons, but I understand why somebody would agree 237 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:49.919 with them for their personal reasons. 238 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.759 No shape the other ones. 239 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.960 About the flat earth models, the issue that I've had 240 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:57.960 with them, Yes, they show these examples of like how 241 00:11:57.960 --> 00:11:59.639 it works on a flat plan and it works on 242 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:03.799 a reund cool, except the example that they give that 243 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.200 works in that one example doesn't work with the model 244 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.720 they showed five minutes ago that works with this other thing, 245 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.519 And both of those don't work with this other model 246 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:15.240 that they showed twenty minutes ago about this other other thing. 247 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.399 And if you overlay all of the things on top 248 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:20.320 of each other, their model physically can't work. 249 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:23.559 But no, again, there's a lot of problems with it. 250 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.559 That's the that's why people are still debating it is 251 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.240 because there's a lot of problems with the flat Earth model. 252 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:33.519 I mean, like obviously, so there's a lot of problems 253 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:36.320 with what NASA tells us too. So that's where I'm 254 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:36.960 in the middle. 255 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:39.240 Agreed, Now hand, do you believe that we have been 256 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:40.039 to the moon. 257 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:42.720 So that's another one where I kind of fall I 258 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:45.080 don't think. First of all, that comes back to what 259 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:47.919 do you think the moon is? First of all, is 260 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:52.320 it a big I mean, so the Earth's gravity is 261 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:55.320 strong enough to hold the Moon in its orbit, and 262 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:57.559 the Earth is in the Sun's orbit, but the Sun 263 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.399 doesn't take the Moon away because the Earth's or you know, 264 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.840 like gravity is stronger than the Sun. So the Moon 265 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.519 stays here. There's a lot of weird things so to 266 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:08.559 try to even figure out what the fuck the moon is. 267 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:13.559 And there's a lot of old writings or whatever. We 268 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:17.600 listen to mysterious universe regularly shout out uh Ben and 269 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.360 Aaron over there, and they a long time ago they 270 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:23.759 covered a book I think that was called Who Who 271 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:26.919 Made the Moon? Or something like that. And there's a 272 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:30.279 lot of old like tales about the moon not even 273 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:32.240 being in the sky at some point and then all 274 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:34.679 of a sudden it just kind of appearing. So there's 275 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:36.279 a lot that goes into just did we go to 276 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:40.440 the moon or not? I personally, if we did, whatever 277 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:45.440 we were shown is one bogus. If we actually did 278 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.639 go there, why didn't Why aren't they showing me the 279 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:53.039 real thing? I mean, there's tons of documentaries on the 280 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:59.480 Moon landing. Bartzebrell is a good one. It's a dusty 281 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:02.960 rock floating around like I just don't but it looks 282 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.039 like it, like I've looked at I have a telescope. 283 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.639 I've taken pictures of it. It looks three dimensional. It 284 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.159 looks like there's craters and perfectly round, by the way, 285 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:14.639 because no meteor ever hits it at an angle. But 286 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.720 I don't know. I don't think we went there. If 287 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:19.320 we did, why are we really not gone back? And 288 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:20.559 why are they trying to do it again? 289 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:24.399 Because the Van Allen Belt is there and you can't 290 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.639 get the technology right. But they were able to get through, 291 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.960 but now they're sending crash test dummies through. So if 292 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:34.320 the Van Allen Belt is real, then no, I don't 293 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:36.120 believe we went to the Moon at all, because that's 294 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:39.720 why we can't go back. But if that's just a 295 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.360 barrier now or kind of an excuse for them to say, 296 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.240 like either way, the Van Allen Belt is one of 297 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.200 the weirdest things to me because it's been around forever, 298 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.360 according to them, a gigantic belt of radiation in between 299 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:57.200 us and the Moon, and but we got through it 300 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:03.320 with nineteen fifties and sixties technology a calculator that doesn't 301 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:04.279 make any sense to me. 302 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:06.039 So it's pretty ridiculous. 303 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:10.960 As there's a couple of years ago, No, I was 304 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:12.679 just gonna say, a couple of years ago, we actually 305 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:14.960 had on a another podcaster out there, one of my 306 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:16.159 favorites to ever listen to. 307 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.000 If you ever heard of a crow Triple seven, Yeah. 308 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:21.879 Oh dude, we've had him on a bunch of times. 309 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:23.679 Fucking love that guy. 310 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:27.679 But he you know, he shot the documentary shooting the Moon, 311 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.519 and now he's like shooting the Sun, which is pretty crazy. 312 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:37.120 But that documentary, dude, insane. But those the the video 313 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:39.200 footage that he got from whenever he was shooting the 314 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:42.039 moon and seeing the lunar wave and seeing like what 315 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.559 seemed to be like little let's I mean, just to 316 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:49.679 be as kindergarten as I can, little white dots that 317 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:51.919 are coming out of the moon. Maybe you can call 318 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:55.240 them spaceships, maybe you can call them aliens, mining whatever 319 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:57.039 the hell the moon is made up of. But like 320 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:00.279 I don't know, dude, whenever I see like a literal 321 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.000 lunar wave, so like literally like an old school TV 322 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:05.879 screen that has the line go down. 323 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:07.919 Yeah, that's dude. 324 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:10.240 It makes me think that either the Moon is either 325 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:15.200 a projection of some sort or maybe it's some kind 326 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:18.840 of plasma, right, because like a rock is not going 327 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.120 to do that, Like you're not going to see a 328 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:24.799 rock have a television line go down it. 329 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:26.279 Now, does that. 330 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.320 Speak more to maybe our atmosphere or the bubble that 331 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.120 we're in, Whether if you believe in the firmament, maybe 332 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:35.480 there was a little a little line going down in 333 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:37.720 the firmament and it showed up on the moon because 334 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:39.799 it doesn't show up against the night sky or something 335 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:40.080 like that. 336 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:40.600 I don't know. 337 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:43.120 I just think that, dude, the moon is just such 338 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:47.159 a weird anomaly. And I don't really trust anything that 339 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.879 anybody says about the moon for being so sure if 340 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:54.279 we've never been there, Like that's the craziest thing. Like, 341 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:56.600 if we've never been there, how can you possibly say 342 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:57.679 that you know what it's made of? 343 00:16:58.279 --> 00:16:58.480 You know? 344 00:16:58.639 --> 00:16:59.440 Like that's my thing. 345 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.879 I agree that at least the lunar landing video the 346 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:06.759 one small step for man. I think everybody with a 347 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:08.960 brainstem can look at that and pretty well say that 348 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:09.400 that's fake. 349 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:13.279 Fine, fine, But I am actually on the landline in 350 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.440 nineteen sixty nine. Everybody knows that in real time. 351 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:19.799 But I do believe that humans, or at least human 352 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.240 technology has made it to the Moon. Now I'm not 353 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.359 going to say a human being has ever been I 354 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:29.240 think we may have. I can't confirm, but I believe 355 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:32.960 that at least a rover has been sent there reason being. 356 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:35.759 There is a test that you can do if you 357 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:39.559 buy the laser. There's a laser beam that you can 358 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.279 line up to a reflective pad that they've put on 359 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:44.359 the Moon, and you can only do it when the 360 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:46.240 Moon is at a certain place in the sky per 361 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.200 your area on Earth. You have to do it on 362 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.440 a certain day, and you can have cloud coverage whatever. 363 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:53.039 But you can actually time it and you shoot the 364 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:55.640 beam up and it bounces off the reflective pad and 365 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:59.039 hits your receiver back in time, and you can actually 366 00:17:59.079 --> 00:17:59.759 clock in time. 367 00:17:59.799 --> 00:17:59.920 This. 368 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.599 They did experiments about this a good bit, I believe, 369 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.359 And that's only you, as a regular civilian, can go 370 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:08.319 buy the equipment and do it just for the fuck 371 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.400 of it, because let's say you're just a little science 372 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:14.920 enthusiast or something. So that reflective pad at least was 373 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.440 placed there. I think that at least, and I don't. 374 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.480 I'm not of the belief that it's a projection. I 375 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:22.359 believe it's at least all things out there, because we 376 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.440 can track tidal waves and title surges based off of 377 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.279 the lunar cycles and things. The Farmers Almanac is based 378 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:29.559 off of it. There's a lot of stuff that goes 379 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:32.920 into it. But I'm not gonna say that human beings 380 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:35.720 made it through the van Allen radiation built. I believe 381 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:39.079 that at least are over may have. I think that's 382 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:41.839 an arguable, you know, middle ground to go for. 383 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.640 Oh yeah, and I love the I was going to 384 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:50.319 say earlier from because you're the Christian here me and 385 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:52.000 I would be close to that as well. And if 386 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:57.799 anybody reads the Bible, they should almost one hundred percent 387 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.200 be a flat earther or at least very much question 388 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.720 what's going on with NASA. I don't know if you 389 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:06.000 guys know Josh Monday, but. 390 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:09.000 Great, Oh we have guy, we love him. 391 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:11.839 Oh that's right, he does your Sunday sermons. That's right anyway. Yeah, 392 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:15.960 so the way he breaks down Biblical cosmology, and there 393 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:19.440 was a huge debate I think last year between two pastors. 394 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.720 And I'm not taking one side or the other, but 395 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:27.119 the Globe pastor was a fucking asshole, and he came 396 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:31.039 across so pretentious and condescending. I couldn't even listen to 397 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:32.880 all of it. I'm like, oh my god, I don't 398 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:34.400 even care what you have to say right now. You're 399 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.400 a fucking dickhead. And the other guy is very respectful 400 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:42.200 and you know, made his points and really, really, at 401 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:44.000 the end of the day, both sides just come down 402 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:48.000 to it just because it is like if they get 403 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.640 heated enough, they just go it is and it's like, 404 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:53.319 oh this is I'm done. 405 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:54.880 It happens on both sides, though, no, no. 406 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:55.519 It does. 407 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:56.640 It does. 408 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.720 It happens in the side of academia as well as 409 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:03.079 it happens in the side of the pseudoscience. Right you 410 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.839 got the professor Daves that are assholes, that are just 411 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.079 their dicks. But like, and that's the thing, what he's 412 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.039 saying a lot of people would say is correct. It's 413 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:18.160 not what you're saying, you ask, it's how you're saying it. 414 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:20.240 That's how it's going to be received. And like, I 415 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:22.200 get it, it's your brand to be a dick. But 416 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:25.039 like you don't have the face of a logan. Paul 417 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:26.759 bro being a dick is not going to be a 418 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:29.440 good brand choice for you. You look like an incell 419 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:32.960 you know, you see what I'm saying. A penis so right, 420 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:36.279 It's that exactly so okay. And then you'll get that 421 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.079 with the Christian side of things too, as the resident 422 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.039 Christian and the resident globe tard. 423 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:44.359 My thing has always been this, The Bible has. 424 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.680 Somewhere around two hundred verses that arguably could be taken 425 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:51.359 into a context of some sort of a flat earth. 426 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:55.640 There are seventy thousand verses in the Bible. Two hundred 427 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:59.079 of them are possibly about the shape of the earth. 428 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:02.680 That that's how much attention I believe God wants us 429 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.960 to give to the shape of the shit that we're 430 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.880 standing on. And my biggest thing about it is that 431 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:09.880 it is not a salvation issue. 432 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.599 It's more of a cult alignment issue. I'm gonna be 433 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:13.200 honest with you. 434 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:15.440 Everybody that I've ever talked to that believes in the 435 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.119 flat Earth, I've always asked the same thing, Dude, I 436 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:20.200 still got to go to work on Monday, I still 437 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:21.119 got to pay taxes. 438 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:23.359 The shape of the earth makes no difference to that. 439 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.079 Yeah, it does, man, because once you see it, you 440 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:28.039 change your perspective and your whole life changes. 441 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:29.880 And like, oh so it's a cult, got you cool? Cool? 442 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.759 Cool, So I'm not throwing shade, But like, your perspective 443 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.240 shift doesn't change the fact that Uncle Sam's coming for 444 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:39.039 that ass on tax season. So like, it doesn't change 445 00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:40.799 the fact that I got my kid's soccer practice in 446 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:41.480 a couple hours. 447 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:42.440 It really doesn't. 448 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:45.799 And it doesn't change the fact that Jesus Christ came 449 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:47.359 to save all of us. 450 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:49.079 And it's not a salvation issue. 451 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:51.799 So I find it interesting and fun to back and 452 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:54.359 forth with and I'm here for it. But like, it's 453 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:56.279 never gonna be a thing that I throw down with 454 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:57.920 another Christian on for like. 455 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:01.680 Real shit, Like does it change Jesus? 456 00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:04.799 You know, we're in the same boat. It just doesn't 457 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:07.240 affect our lives at all. We like talking to people 458 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:10.000 about it, but I don't if someone put a gun 459 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.319 to my head and said, what shape do you think 460 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:15.400 the earth is? I would probably say that it's more 461 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.720 of like a realm that we're created. It's like a 462 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.799 little playground for us for God to But I do 463 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.359 in a Christian perspective. I think that we do. We're 464 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.240 meant to be here but to learn, and then we 465 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.559 go back and we talk to God and Jesus was 466 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:35.559 put here to help us navigate it the world because 467 00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:38.279 we forget where we come from and we're not allowed 468 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.839 to know because then we wouldn't learn anything. And I 469 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:43.640 know it's the heart. It's a hard lesson, it's a 470 00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:46.440 hard way to learn. But I think this is like 471 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:48.480 a fun little place. It doesn't really matter what shape 472 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:50.319 it is. So I kind of agree with you where 473 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:52.920 I don't think he God wants us to give a 474 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:55.039 shit about that. There's a lot more things to care about. 475 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:59.160 I love the Tower of Babbel thing though, too, because 476 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.519 it's I mean, God's looking at him going They're gonna 477 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:06.720 build a tower to the heavens on a ball, Like 478 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:09.119 what what are you doing? Like you're just gonna be 479 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:12.680 in orbit? Yeah, Like if I was God, I'd just 480 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:15.079 be like, go ahead, and you're just gonna like lose 481 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:16.440 oxygen and pass out. 482 00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:18.519 Like no, he was protecting them. It's like a parent 483 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.519 saying like don't run across the street to get to 484 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:23.559 the ice cream truck. You don't want to do that, 485 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:25.559 And they jump out of you know, jump in front 486 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:27.599 of the kid and tear them up, you know, away from. 487 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:28.400 The oncoming truck. 488 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:31.039 Maybe God was just saving everybody from fucking time. 489 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:34.400 Okay, why is he saving Elon Musk from sending SpaceX 490 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:36.400 rockets up there? Then, because it's the same kind of thing. 491 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.000 It's a modern Tower of Babel shooting rockets up into 492 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:41.160 the sky, like what are we doing? 493 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:43.319 I feel the same way like crowd and he'll make 494 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:44.200 an example of him. 495 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:46.640 So the idea that the whole Tower of Babel, is 496 00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:50.279 that seen as something that actually happened or is that 497 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:51.920 more story. 498 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:54.359 He's gonna I was gonna mention that the Tower of 499 00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:58.680 Babel or Babel whatever is an interesting one because yes, 500 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:00.680 it's a biblical story and yeah, you can go back 501 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:02.720 to Old Testament, which means that it's in the Koran, 502 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:04.000 it's in the Torret's. 503 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:04.119 And the Bible. 504 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:08.079 Fine, bye, Fine, But that story has actually made its 505 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.480 rounds around the world in all different types of cultures. 506 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:13.720 They all seem to have some sort of a crazy 507 00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:18.160 Tower of Babbel story where the well, exactly, they all 508 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:20.640 have a flood story. They all have a survivor's on 509 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:23.160 a boat and sometimes there's animals, sometimes there's not, but 510 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:24.599 there's always some survivor on. 511 00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:27.640 A boat during the great flood. They always have. 512 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:31.359 Some sort of a crazy story where the languages of 513 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.000 man were separated because they were all in unison on 514 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:38.559 this project of something, and then God or the gods 515 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:41.160 or whatever said yeah, fuck all that noise, and boom, 516 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.759 now people can't understand each other. That story somehow has 517 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.759 made its way so many times through I'm honestly curious 518 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:50.640 if that's not one of those myths. I think that 519 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:52.400 might actually have more of a kernel of truth to 520 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.279 it than what people really uh want to give it 521 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:54.640 credit to. 522 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:56.680 Well, it says right here, it says that there is 523 00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.480 no historical evidence that the Tower of Babble ever existed, 524 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.680 but some believe it it was based on an ancient 525 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:07.000 tower called bab elieu b A b I l U. 526 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:09.880 The story of the Tower of Babel is a myth 527 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:14.640 or idiology that explains the origin of language diversity. So 528 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.319 that's probably more so. But there are a bunch of 529 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:20.319 people that actually do believe that it actually was a 530 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:23.480 real event. It says some believe that the Tower of 531 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.680 Babbel was inspired by a real building and that, and 532 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.720 that the site of Iridium in Mesopotamia is the actual 533 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:32.240 location of the Tower of Babel. 534 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:34.920 I heard that they recently found a site that they 535 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:38.160 thought was the foundation of the tower. But I mean, 536 00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.319 at what point are we drawing that these hairs? 537 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:42.640 You know what? 538 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:45.759 I also think they found Jesus' tomb and his fucking 539 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.640 robe and shit like. This is the thing I always 540 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:51.319 come back to with a lot of these things, is 541 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:54.640 at what point are you believing the information you get, 542 00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:57.559 especially nowadays when most of the information is on a screen, 543 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:01.880 digital information, and I get it's doubting Thomas of me 544 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:03.519 to be like, I need to see it. I need 545 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:05.480 to stick the hole my hand or my finger in 546 00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:08.079 the holes in your hands to believe this. But that's 547 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.119 where we're at now, because, especially especially in the last 548 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:13.720 couple of years, with AI and photoshop and all these 549 00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:17.160 other tools that people have now, we don't know what 550 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:20.279 to believe anymore. And first of all, it'll be the 551 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:22.559 first one to say it on this show, I don't 552 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.960 believe jack shit of history. Say, sure, some names and 553 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.599 dates maybe, okay, But if you just take that stance 554 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.920 as the foundation, like, what are we doing? I don't 555 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:38.960 believe most of history of telephone. 556 00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:40.720 Too, though, you know, have you ever you know telephone 557 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.079 as a little shit You say something and then by 558 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.319 the time it gets to the last person, it sounds 559 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:46.319 a lot different. 560 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:48.359 Right, I'm not saying it's all intentionally either. 561 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.319 People, Yeah, it doesn't have to be this nefarious thing, 562 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.319 like it doesn't mean that, you know, they they planted 563 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.839 dinosaur bones and wanted us to think that, like maybe 564 00:26:57.880 --> 00:26:59.839 just some retard was like, look what I've found. It's 565 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.079 dinosaurs and wanted to be proud and and told people 566 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:06.079 it was that, and they believed him, and then archaeology started. 567 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:10.880 I don't know, show they exist, no, hell no, but 568 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.680 they're definitely not oil right right. 569 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.400 But honestly, like, how long ago was it that people 570 00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:20.559 actually started going to school to learn history. That couldn't 571 00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.559 have been that long ago, Like. 572 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.599 Since the beginning of time. Bro Plato was teaching histories 573 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.640 in school to his who his Atlantis, right, I mean 574 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:32.160 that was a part of what they believed to be 575 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.400 a part of the histories. Rome taught Greek history because 576 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:38.480 they believed that they were descendants of the Greeks. Now, 577 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.319 how much of that was myth and legend and how 578 00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:43.519 much of that was true fucking things that were scribed down. 579 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.079 That's that's kind of where we're at, you know what 580 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:46.359 I mean. 581 00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.000 The Phoenicians, they had their stories that they passed down. 582 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:51.200 How much of that was myth and legend? How much 583 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.119 of that was actual dudes that actually walked the earth 584 00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.200 and did some shit like it's people have always looked 585 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:01.240 to the past to gain knowledge, to gain wisdom, to 586 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:03.240 learn one hundred percent. 587 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.200 To learn how retarded we were and believing a lot 588 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.559 of the things that they were teaching. Like, how about 589 00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:11.599 whenever we're one hundred years in the future, two hundred 590 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.240 years in the future, whenever they're looking back on these times, 591 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:16.359 what do you think that they're going to look back 592 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:19.119 on us and think, I cannot believe they actually believe 593 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.079 that bullshit? You know, like, what, what do you think 594 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:23.960 that thing or those things would be. 595 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.000 No, I don't think they're going to know, so I 596 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.400 think it will be so skewed though, Like they might 597 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.920 think that like a podcast was mainstream media, or that 598 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.359 you know, the things that were It's going to be 599 00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.200 something that we couldn't possibly fathom and they might not 600 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:41.440 even have a way to play back this information, someone 601 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.079 will have like a computer instead of a chip in 602 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.359 their head, like they'd have to have some sort of 603 00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:50.720 hardware to play this information back. It will just be 604 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:57.039 maybe one person relaying some information and definitely probably skewing it. 605 00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.279 It depends on the interpretation of the person that person 606 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.559 they're talking to. But I I don't know. I don't 607 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.359 think they're going to understand it's going to be a 608 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:06.960 different world. 609 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:12.480 Well I made that exact point, Jonathan. If in a 610 00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:16.359 couple hundred years, like maybe there's a cataclysm, maybe every 611 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:20.799 thing that people know about shit that happened gets wiped 612 00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:22.720 out in some way or another, or they can't access 613 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:24.519 it because everything's on a hard drive, and they're like, 614 00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.200 what the fuck is this? Who knows? They find a book, though, 615 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.640 and they read it and they're like, dude, this is 616 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.960 a history book. This dude named Gandalf totally saved these 617 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.359 things called the Hobbits and they threw this ring in there, 618 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:38.799 and oh my god, and there's a lot of copies 619 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.359 of it all across the world. This must be what happened, Like, 620 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:43.720 this is what happened, and then they take that as history. 621 00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:48.200 Two thousand years later, you have the Bible, and it's like, whoa, 622 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.200 that's that's nuts. Like I'm not comparing Lord of the 623 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.039 Rings to the Bible. The Bible's clearly a better book. 624 00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.039 But if you can't told you was a diehard Catholic, 625 00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:58.839 So I mean, you know. 626 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.480 No, I just mean it like that's just a stupid example. 627 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:05.799 But that's interpretation something. 628 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.240 The bulk of the Bible was what the Dead Sea 629 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.960 Scrolls or whatever was that. 630 00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:12.920 The Dead Sea Scrolls were some Yeah that was the Bible, 631 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.920 but that was found way away later. The Bible is written, 632 00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:19.279 you know, first and second century a d. The Dead 633 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.440 Sea Scrolls are found like only a couple of years ago. 634 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.359 They like Coborate. 635 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.960 Seventy a d. Issue or somewhere around there. But yeah, 636 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.880 it's it's one of those things where it's like we 637 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:32.640 found these, so these are now the scripture and you 638 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.000 have to live your whole life by it. And it's 639 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.559 like what you found some scrolls in a cave and 640 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:37.400 now you're what. 641 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.960 I don't think the Bible, like I. 642 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.079 Said, I'm a Christian than anything that. 643 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:48.680 Is like one thing I can say I now. 644 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.200 Yeah, no, it's the same as like Tibetan monks following 645 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.920 their life, all of these ancient scrolls that have been 646 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:55.319 passed down for hundreds of years. 647 00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:56.799 They never met the dude that wrote it. 648 00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:58.920 They're just following the way that's been taught to them 649 00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.599 by there, to that monk leaders And like that's the 650 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.200 whole thing. Saying with the Hindi saying with the Yeah, 651 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:06.400 at a certain point, we're all going off of some 652 00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:07.799 sort of old literature. 653 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:11.480 Well, because there's principles in there that just makes sense 654 00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:16.079 across across everybody across the globe. You know, just be 655 00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:19.039 a good person. You know's these underlying principles. But then 656 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:24.240 there's also little things like in the New Testament, Jesus 657 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.960 says that you can basically do anything you want as 658 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.319 long as you believe, like you can have anything you 659 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.160 ask for in prayer Jesus as long as you believe 660 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.559 that you will receive it. As long as you believe 661 00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:37.519 that you have to believe that you will receive it 662 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.279 and it will be yours. 663 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.400 That's like anything you want, it would be more of 664 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:42.039 like you. 665 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.680 Know, his example is if a man says to this mountain, 666 00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.640 go and throw yourself into the sea. A mountain. If 667 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:50.039 a man says to a mountain, go and throw yourself 668 00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:51.880 into the sea, and does not doubt in his heart, 669 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.039 but believes though what he says will come to pass, 670 00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.480 it will be given to him. Therefore, I tell you, 671 00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:58.599 whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you receive 672 00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:02.720 it and it will be yours. 673 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:07.880 So like, it's not like I you know what I'm saying. 674 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:09.559 I agree with you, but I don't think that it 675 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:11.960 means that your life will be perfect if you do 676 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:13.880 those things. If a man said to a mountain, go 677 00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.400 and throw yourself into the sea, I think there are 678 00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.599 other principles in the Bible that would apply to that 679 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.839 person who did that, that would come down on him 680 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.000 as well. There's still consequences. 681 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:27.640 A bit hyperbolic to just prove a point. He wasn't like, uh, 682 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:29.880 for some reason, you want a mountain to be tossed 683 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:30.400 in the ocean? 684 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.319 Like okay. I think though, that if. 685 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:34.880 You, if you well in the context of. 686 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.039 What you would believe so strongly it was about faith, 687 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:38.799 you wouldn't. 688 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:41.240 Be able to believe that. Yes, exactly, it's about faith. 689 00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.799 I don't think that one person could. You would have 690 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.079 to believe in the power of God, and if you 691 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.680 truly believe in the power of God. You would never say, 692 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.880 go throw yourself into the sea to a mountain. That 693 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:54.359 wouldn't be a thing that you would want to do. 694 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.039 That mountain your wife or something. 695 00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.720 But it's kind of similar though mountain. 696 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.359 You got a whole other set of issues that like 697 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:03.759 I don't think you need God. 698 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:05.720 I think you need like a therapists. 699 00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.759 Are you talking about the mountain from Game of Thrones 700 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:08.839 or like just an. 701 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:16.359 Actual troll like getting after it at that point, Like, yeah, no, 702 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:17.799 I'm pretty much done well. 703 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.720 But but as far as that whole you know, the 704 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.200 whole Mountain analogy, as far as asking whatever you want 705 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:26.640 as long as you believe and have absolute faith and 706 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.319 it should work. It kind of reminds me of the 707 00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.480 Matrix a little bit whenever you know, he's being told 708 00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.039 or being taught basically how to bend the spoon, Like 709 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.359 how are you doing that? Well, the spoon's not actually there. 710 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.079 And so if you think that you're living in like 711 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.559 God's realm, and this physical realm really comes second compared 712 00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.880 to God's realm, then you know, maybe it's somewhere along 713 00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.799 those lines of like all right, well, the material reality 714 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:56.079 and the the matrix kind of reality that God laid 715 00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:57.119 over top of us. 716 00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.200 Or something like that. It makes me wonder if. 717 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:03.200 Like it, is it relatable to the whole spoon bending 718 00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:07.119 kind of situation in thinking that, like, yo, this reality 719 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.280 really isn't what you think it is, and that's why 720 00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.760 with enough faith, maybe you would have a little help, 721 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:15.320 or maybe you wouldn't see it as any kind of 722 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.800 obstacle to move something like that in the first place, 723 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.480 if it's not physically what you thought it was. 724 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.719 I totally agree with that. I think that he's trying. 725 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:26.360 I think Jesus was trying to explain that we could 726 00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.440 have anything we want. We can all be happy though 727 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.039 and coexist, and we don't have to struggle on this earth. 728 00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:36.280 But I think the context that Jesus is preaching was 729 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.920 more about having faith in times of hardship, when the 730 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.800 odds seem insurmountable, that if you have faith you can 731 00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:44.559 call it a mountain and say get out of my 732 00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:46.199 way and it will if you have faith. 733 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.079 I think it has little to nothing. 734 00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:52.320 To do with it if you want it and pray 735 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:53.159 hard enough and believe. 736 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.320 I think it was more of a there was the 737 00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:57.280 whole context. You can't look at one sentence. 738 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:00.440 You know, Well, there was no glory in how that 739 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:03.599 whole parable started, though, the Parable of the withered fig tree. 740 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.039 He basically was hungry and was like, fuck this fig tree. 741 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.960 There's no figs on it. May you never bear fruit again? 742 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.639 And then they were they're like Mark eleven twenty, the 743 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.159 Parable of the withered fig tree. 744 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.239 Right, Jesus walked by the fig tree, and he's like, fucking. 745 00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.639 I'm saying it in Lehman's terms. So he uh, Now 746 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.840 they pass by a fig tree and Jesus is hungry 747 00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:26.679 and there's no figs on the tree, and so he 748 00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:29.320 curses it. And then they keep going and when they 749 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.360 come back, there's no figs on the tree, and it's 750 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.679 dead and it's withered to the roots. And the disciples 751 00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.519 are like, wow, look at that, you did it. The 752 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:40.639 victory you cursed has withered. And they're all shocked, and 753 00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.039 he's like, no kidding, you can do that too. 754 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.519 But there was more to the reason as to the 755 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:50.840 why well we love more to that context. 756 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:54.800 Jacob gets a raging boner every time somebody says the 757 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.400 word context. So I'm going to read this little part 758 00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.840 of the boner. I'm going to read this little part 759 00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:01.679 of the Bible, and we'll see what kind of context 760 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.480 that we're talking about here. As far as the whole 761 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.400 faith of a mustard seed and moving mountains and all 762 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:10.840 that shit, this is uh, It says. When they came 763 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.599 to the crowd, a man approached Jesus and knelt before him, Lord, 764 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.880 have mercy on my son. He said, he has seizures 765 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.559 and is suffering greatly. He often falls into the fire 766 00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.920 or into the water. I brought him to your disciples, 767 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.519 but they could not heal him. You unbelieving and perverse generation. 768 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:27.239 Jesus said, how long shall I stay with you? How 769 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.440 long should I shall I put up with you? Bring 770 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:30.360 the boy here. 771 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:31.119 To me, Jesus. 772 00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.679 Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, 773 00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:35.920 and he was healed at that moment. Then the disciples 774 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.639 came to Jesus in private and asked, why couldn't we 775 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.800 drive it out? He replied, because you have so little faith. Truly, 776 00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.440 I tell you, if you have the if you have 777 00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.800 faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say 778 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.880 to this mountain, move from here to there, and it 779 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.800 will move. Nothing will be impossible for you. So I 780 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.599 think within the context, what you're trying to say is 781 00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.599 it's it's not a parable. I think he's actually literally 782 00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.159 saying that. 783 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.400 He's not saying you can have anything you want as 784 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:01.239 long as you pray for it. 785 00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.079 He's saying that, why couldn't you do this thing that 786 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.199 I could do because you don't have faith enough. 787 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.719 That's a different thing. That's a different one, but I 788 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.119 know I know that one as well. The faith as 789 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.559 small as a mustard seed. When he does the parable 790 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.320 of the withered fig tree, it's a little bit different, 791 00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.079 But that's when he says he says that after he 792 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:25.239 curses the tree. It's when Paul or something I think, says, Master, 793 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:27.320 look the tree you've cursed has withered to the roots. 794 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.360 And then he talks about moving a mountain, and I 795 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:32.760 think maybe he's referencing it again there after that. 796 00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.559 You know, I gotta say, as the I think I'm 797 00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.639 the only person on this show right now that is 798 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.440 not a Christian. And I just feel like if I 799 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.679 was to ever convert to Christianity, it would be because 800 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:51.960 I believe absolutely what the Bible is saying, and if 801 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.920 the Bible is saying for you to do this, but 802 00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.360 you're just kind of like looking at it. Oh, that's 803 00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.320 not really what he meant, or that was Jesus. He 804 00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.960 was actually God. But Jesus is literally telling you. Jesus 805 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:04.760 is literally telling you you can do all the things 806 00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.719 that I can do. And then some you know what 807 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:07.519 I'm saying, Like. 808 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:11.159 Just heard him say when the disciples asked him in 809 00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.320 private later on, how come you could do this thing 810 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.599 and we couldn't, And he said, because you don't have faith. 811 00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:19.239 Surely I tell you, if you have the faith of 812 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.199 a mustard seed, you can move mountains. 813 00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:22.440 Nothing would be impossible. 814 00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:25.400 You took that and said, Jesus wants you to move 815 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:26.519 actual mountains. 816 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:28.039 That's what you took from. 817 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:29.320 No, that's how you interpreted. 818 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:33.400 What I'm saying is is that Jesus said exactly what 819 00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:36.440 you said, as long as you have faith, you can 820 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:37.920 literally do that. 821 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:38.280 Right. 822 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.480 He didn't say, oh, demons, you can literally do that. Yeah. 823 00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:46.119 And also the mountains, I would kind of practically like, 824 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:48.519 my dad's going through a lot of health problems right now, 825 00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:51.400 and if I were to have enough faith, I could 826 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:56.599 heal his ass cancer. Right, So when it doesn't work, inevitably, 827 00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.360 the answer to that would be I didn't have enough 828 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:00.320 faith correct have. 829 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.079 So in my opinion, you have to believe it like 830 00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.719 when I know listen, you have to believe it, like 831 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:07.800 I know that when I hold this up, it's going 832 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.599 to fall. That's it. You have to believe it like that. 833 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.039 You have to believe it like you know it will happen. 834 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.159 It's not you pray for it and hope it will happen. 835 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.679 Hope does not exist. You have to know it will 836 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:21.840 happen when you pray for it. And a lot of 837 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:25.079 people just have hope and think it's knowing and it's 838 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:26.440 not the same thing. 839 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:28.840 But you know why you think when you do this 840 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.960 it's going to drop is because ingrained in our brains 841 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.480 is the laws of physics saying this is gonna happen. 842 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.880 Sure, And God's telling us though you can also do this. 843 00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:42.719 You can do this, and you just don't. We just 844 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.639 don't believe it. It sucks. It's like when I told 845 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:47.760 my daughter if she just keeps pedling on her bike, 846 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.719 she won't fall down, and she's too afraid because the 847 00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.239 bike's too shaky and it's scary and she doesn't know 848 00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:56.480 what to do. And I pushed her actually out into 849 00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.400 our yard, which is really shitty thing to do, because 850 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.159 she definitely felt but she didn't. But it's because she 851 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.760 didn't pedal. I was like, just pedal. Have faith in yourself, 852 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.440 and that is what God is telling us. He's saying, 853 00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.760 just have faith, and I understand why Jesus was frustrated. 854 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:15.079 So I just pulled up Mark eleven twenty and it 855 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.440 is the parable of the withered fig tree. It's but 856 00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.280 he does talk about the mountain throwing it into see 857 00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:20.960 blah blah blah. And I don't think that he's saying 858 00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:23.880 you can just tear shit up around you. He's saying, like, 859 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.119 you have your son in pain, you can heal him. 860 00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.119 You can get these demons that like, why are you 861 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:31.440 doing this to yourself? You have all of the power 862 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.760 right here, but you just don't. You just don't believe 863 00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:38.320 hard enough. And yeah, it's hard and I'm definitely guilty 864 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.480 of it too. I'm not perfect. I don't just pray 865 00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.119 and my problems magically go away. But I do think 866 00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.199 that we can do amazing things through the power of God. 867 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:50.199 I think we can too. But it's almost a ratio 868 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.639 of not chance, but like it's almost a fifty to fifty. 869 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.480 Like I was saying, I wanted to get Jacob's response 870 00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:00.480 to that, Actually, because the cancel if they're so with that? 871 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.800 If how many cancer survivors. 872 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:04.320 Have you met that said that it was their willpower 873 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:06.679 that got them through there, chemo did what chemo does, 874 00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:08.199 but they didn't give up. 875 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:10.199 How many of them have you heard say that? 876 00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:14.800 Oh? No, a few. And there's the placebo effect and 877 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.280 all that stuff. So that's modern terms. But I mean, 878 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.320 like as many Christians as there are who believe that, 879 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:25.519 you'd think a nobody would really ever like get that 880 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.400 sick and die because they are. And it's not the 881 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.960 pursuit who has cancer? You being a Christ you know, 882 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:36.159 a christ type or whatever they call it, where you're 883 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.679 you're playing Christ and Jesus says you can do these 884 00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.280 things too, you can heal people. Why isn't there more 885 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:44.719 of that going on? Is because people have enough faith. 886 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.239 And that's kind of what I was getting at. Oh 887 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:47.679 you just didn't believe hard enough. 888 00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:53.559 So all right, multiple levels to this answer. I do 889 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:55.719 believe no, no, no, no, by all means, bro, this 890 00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:58.920 is great. I believe that there are certain people out 891 00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.440 there that are true. And I don't mean like in 892 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.119 a cabin in the woods somewhere. I genuinely believe that 893 00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.480 there are certain people, you know, depending on what kind 894 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.440 of herbal remedy you're looking for, they can be. 895 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.400 They can be. They're very resourceful, those those woodwitches. 896 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.000 But no, what I was gonna say is, like, I 897 00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:19.079 believe that there are certain people working in hospitals that 898 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.519 are like they are meant to be in medicine. They 899 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.079 are meant to be healing people. That's why they were 900 00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:30.400 put on this earth. I believe that, right, and not 901 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:33.840 just surgeons, although them too, but even the nurses that 902 00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:35.719 are on the floor level that are doing the things 903 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.239 that need to be done, and like all of it, 904 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.480 all of the stuff, as far as healing somebody with 905 00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.239 what would be considered supernatural powers or god powers or 906 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:47.519 some might even say magic or something like that, I 907 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.320 believe some of that might be happening somewhere. 908 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.920 But yes, I believe that a lot of that is because. 909 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.480 No one's doing whatever it is, living right enough or whatever. 910 00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.480 But I do also believe that we have people casting 911 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.960 out demon Now I'm not saying that every sickness is 912 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:02.440 a demon. 913 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:03.760 There are the. 914 00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.119 Amish believed that you know what I mean, The Puritans 915 00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.159 believe that type of shit. I don't believe that either. 916 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.840 I believe that, Yeah, you can get cancer. I am 917 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:12.840 of the belief you can pray it away. I am 918 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.320 also of the belief that you can have all the 919 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.119 faith on earth. But if it's your time to go, 920 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:20.000 and God said so, it doesn't matter. You can pray 921 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.039 for one more minute of life all you want. But 922 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.679 if it's your time, at your time, and that's kind 923 00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:26.280 of just the way life works. 924 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:30.800 Do you believe it's an exercise in futility then unless 925 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.840 you have some kind of knowledge that, oh, it is 926 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.119 this person's time, Like I don't know how to describe 927 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:39.880 that any better than that. Like when you're praying for 928 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.599 like there's a kid with cancer who's like six, and 929 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.840 you're like, no, he's only six, there's no way it's 930 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.400 his number drawn right now. So I'm gonna pray the 931 00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:52.000 fuck out of this. And then he dies and it's like, okay, 932 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.320 so what was that? Like I believed he was gonna 933 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.599 get better, And I'm not going back to like, oh 934 00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.920 I would have loving God let bad things happen. As 935 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.800 a whole different conversation, and I'm talking specifically about you know, 936 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.119 having the faith to do something. And like you said, 937 00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.199 I'm glad you brought that up. Some people call it magic, 938 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.119 some people call it you know whatever. I think we're 939 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:15.679 describing the same thing here in different you know, cultural 940 00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:18.440 contexts or languages or whatever. It's all kind of the 941 00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:22.440 same thing. Prayer is spell casting in another, uh culture 942 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.519 or I mean, they do different things. They're not like 943 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.079 praying to Jesus. I get it. I get the intention. 944 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:31.760 That's what really matters. From what I've learned, it's really 945 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:33.920 the intention. It doesn't matter if you like candles or 946 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.039 burnt incense or you know, hop around a fucking fire 947 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.239 pit or whatever. It's the energy that you're putting into 948 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.800 the intention of what you're trying to do that matters. 949 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.039 And that is with prayer too, that's called faith. So 950 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:50.000 we're describing the same things here in different words and cultures. 951 00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:52.719 So I think people need a physical stimulus though. I 952 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:56.159 think that's why the candles and whatever the triggers. They 953 00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:59.639 need something that they know is real. They're about to 954 00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.960 do something thing that they're not sure is real, So 955 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.920 they have to bridge that gap between what they can 956 00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:08.760 do mentally that they can't see feel, they can't do it, 957 00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:11.480 they can't sense it at all. It's just something internal 958 00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.599 that they have absolutely no proof of. So something physical 959 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.559 right in front of you, I think is what helps 960 00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:16.840 with that. 961 00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:20.320 So with the all the occult books I've read, like 962 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.679 lighting candles, doing incense, like for witchcraft or whatever, the 963 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.039 reason they're doing that is not because that's what makes 964 00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:28.679 it work, is because it puts you in that state 965 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.519 of mind to focus your energy. It's the same thing 966 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:34.320 as going into it if you're Catholic going into a 967 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.000 church and praying or the priest or the whatever you're 968 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:41.559 and it obviously varies very widely on religious upbringing or 969 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:44.599 cultures or whatever, but you're you're putting yourself in that 970 00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:47.880 state of mind to focus your energy. That's why Christians 971 00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.480 do this and put their hands together. They're focusing it 972 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.880 and they're putting their intention God please heal this, and 973 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.639 they're you know, sending it. So I feel like it's 974 00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.079 all the same thing. I think it's actually directed that 975 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:03.679 the same thing too, unless you're worshiping malevolence then maybe not. 976 00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:08.639 But well, I wonder though, you know, as far as 977 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.079 the most faithful, the people who are following the book 978 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:14.559 word by word, living out their life the way that 979 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:19.000 the Bible tells them, absolutely following exactly what they should 980 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.039 be do. They're not cussing there, They're not using any 981 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.960 kind of linen that isn't pure cotton. I'm talking about 982 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:32.159 like completely well or Mormons like complete straight and narrow path. 983 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:35.239 And your faith and your belief in God is as 984 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.679 strong as it could possibly be, And you know for 985 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.519 an absolute fact that whenever you lay hands on somebody 986 00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:43.199 or you say a prayer for somebody, that it's going 987 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.199 to work, that you can heal because there's nothing telling 988 00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:49.079 you that you wouldn't be able to do it, because 989 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.599 you followed every single thing that you had to do, 990 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.000 and you're the most faithful kind of person there is. 991 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.000 If then whenever you put hands or or pray for somebody, 992 00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.159 I feel like then it would probably. 993 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.679 Be the most potent or the most. 994 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.119 Probable that you you know, your prayer would work. Then 995 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.599 at that point, is that what do y'all think about? 996 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.920 That faith? Like a child, that type of thing where 997 00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:15.320 you don't have any concept of it not working. So 998 00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:18.519 that's and that goes back to the intent thing where 999 00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.519 a child doesn't know that it's not going to work. 1000 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:22.400 They don't know the laws of physics or anything else, 1001 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.559 so they they have one track mind and they're like, 1002 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.440 do this. That's why a lot of kids actually show 1003 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:33.360 weird you know, telekinetic, psychoconese, whatever type of power sometimes 1004 00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:37.559 because they don't have this this barrier of no that 1005 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:38.679 can't work because of physics. 1006 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:40.679 They haven't been slapped in the face with reality yet. 1007 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.320 They haven't been a Rockefeller School or NASA or anything, 1008 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.840 so they just think, obviously, this can work because that's 1009 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:49.880 what I want to want to happen. So that is 1010 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.000 funny that Bible mentions that faith like a child. You 1011 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.679 got to come with faith like a child, because that's 1012 00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:56.559 the most pure intent you can have. 1013 00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.920 Well, yeah, like you, you're But then adults, adults grow 1014 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.079 up and we're taught to like discipline our kids and 1015 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:03.960 tell them you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, 1016 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:06.360 you can't do this. You do what I say. Oh, 1017 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.920 it's never an cycle, right, But well, then the kids 1018 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:10.800 grow up and become adults just like us, and they 1019 00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:11.679 lose their faith. 1020 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.800 Well, because kids will choose the shittiest option possible if 1021 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.800 left to their own devices, we don't have to teach 1022 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.280 kids how to lie. We have to teach them to 1023 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.480 tell the truth. We don't have to teach a kid 1024 00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.440 to not steal from the cookie jar. We have to 1025 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.960 teach them no after dinner. That's the point. Humans are 1026 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.079 born into sin. We are all born inherently looking out 1027 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.400 for number one and that survival instinct. That's okay, that's 1028 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.960 inherent within our genetic makeup. That's we were built that way. 1029 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.519 It's part of the plan. But yeah, we have to 1030 00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.599 put restrictions on them. That's why religion was good because 1031 00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.960 it put morals and ethics onto a codified law of. 1032 00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:48.840 Rule books that people could follow and shit. 1033 00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:52.599 But then we get into the other debacle, right, religion 1034 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:57.760 versus morality and ethics. Where is morals actually derived from? 1035 00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.880 Is it from religion and fear year of God or 1036 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.559 fear of hell or whatever, or is it cultural and 1037 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.440 how you're brought up? And in reality it doesn't because 1038 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.400 we're like we're saying, kids don't know, they haven't been 1039 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:12.760 slapped with the face of reality of dot dot dot Right, 1040 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.440 the reality for a kid growing up in China is 1041 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.719 completely different from the reality of a kid grown up 1042 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:18.800 in Buffalo New York. 1043 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:20.960 You know what I'm saying, So what does that reality 1044 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:21.599 even look like? 1045 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:22.400 Nu? 1046 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:23.960 Nu? Yeah. 1047 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:25.719 So look at the Spartan culture. 1048 00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.199 Their religion told them that it was good and proper 1049 00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.559 and morally just and righteous to go on a killing 1050 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.199 and raping rampage on their slave population once a year. 1051 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:35.880 Right. 1052 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:40.320 The Aztecs, their religious deities told them once a year 1053 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:42.360 to wage a flower war where they would go in 1054 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.800 harvest prisoners from the local tribes to bring back and 1055 00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.079 slaughter in that big cut. They're still beating heart out 1056 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.440 shabam once a year, and that was good and religiously 1057 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:57.760 righteous and proper. We in America teach our children that, 1058 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.840 you know, body autonomy is a good thing, and that 1059 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.960 rape is not a good thing, and like you need 1060 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:05.679 to know your surroundings, you need to watch out for predators. 1061 00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.440 But is that a social you know what I'm saying. 1062 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:09.840 Is that a cultural thing? 1063 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.199 Or is that because some sort of religious text told 1064 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.760 us that we need to It probably stems from religion. 1065 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.760 Do you think any of it comes just from within ourselves? Though? 1066 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.840 I think we all really know what's good and bad. 1067 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:22.360 I do. 1068 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:27.039 I think you can tell you something or. 1069 00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:31.400 Some people do it but you know that deep down, 1070 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:33.559 and it's something personal. I would never know how it 1071 00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:36.800 would feel to murder my mother, but I can imagine 1072 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:40.639 that when that person did that, they felt bad, even 1073 00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:42.440 if they thought it was the right thing to do 1074 00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:44.280 at the time, it's a bad feeling. 1075 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:45.039 I don't know. 1076 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.559 The ones that do it, I think are wired incorrectly, 1077 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.599 like the aside from the the sociopaths that clearly there 1078 00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.679 was something wrong with their brain, throwing those aside because 1079 00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.920 those are anomalies. But like most people can agree that 1080 00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:02.159 there is some sort of inherent code of ethics within us, 1081 00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:04.159 right like don't kill your mother. No one had to 1082 00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.400 teach you that, you know what I mean, everybody kind 1083 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:07.199 of knows that way. 1084 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.199 It's your conscious mind that holds you accountable. 1085 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:11.679 That's one hundred percent what it is. 1086 00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:15.559 And and honestly, I think everybody has that conscious thing 1087 00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.519 inside of their mind that tells them you probably shouldn't 1088 00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:20.679 do that, because then there's probably gonna be some implications 1089 00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:22.239 you probably you know, that's God. 1090 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:26.159 I think that's our connection to God brain, our actual 1091 00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:29.880 physical brain, because we're on this earth now. I think 1092 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.119 that's what fucks with us. I think we need our 1093 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:36.800 brain to have that connection while or in this form, 1094 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:39.920 But we're also subject to like every other thing that 1095 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.199 can be blasted into our brain here on earth, like 1096 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.320 all of the temptations. Any bad thing can also come 1097 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.159 right in. It's like a door just wide open. But 1098 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:50.719 we're also able to receive God. 1099 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.159 I think that's what that's what I take it to mean, 1100 00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:56.039 is the whatever verse it is that said God has 1101 00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:59.119 revealed himself to all men. I think that's what your 1102 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.199 conscience is. You don't like, like you said, you don't 1103 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.119 have to be told not to kill your mother. So 1104 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:06.599 when these vikings are like it's just and holy to 1105 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:10.480 do this, guess where that came from. Somebody else telling them, right, 1106 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:14.320 that's what they should do. That's called religion. It's listening 1107 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.719 to somebody else saying this is what God says to do, 1108 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:18.400 and you will go to heaven if you do this, 1109 00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:21.639 you'll get seventy two virgins and all. That's you're listening 1110 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.039 to the Muslims house. I take it when you're talking 1111 00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.440 about morality and ethics and all that stuff, barring any 1112 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:32.320 holy books or anybody else talking in your ear, I 1113 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:36.360 think it's been called natural law. Where and you can 1114 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:40.000 take it into and it actually goes into almost every religion. 1115 00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:43.840 Even Witchcraft says in like Aleister Crowley, if you want 1116 00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:47.039 to go that far, do what you want. Then the 1117 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.440 offshoot of that, like Wicca, is if it doesn't harm anybody, 1118 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:54.360 do what you want. And that's kind of the Ten Commandments. 1119 00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.719 You know what every almost every bad thing in the 1120 00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:00.599 Ten Commandments is. It's causing harm to other people besides 1121 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:06.039 the worshiping other gods and graven image pretty much right, No, 1122 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:07.800 we had to add those two in there, but almost 1123 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.360 everything else it's causing harm to somebody else. This is 1124 00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:15.119 where libertarian stems from. It's you do you boo. But 1125 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.679 if you start fucking with somebody else, that's where we 1126 00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:21.760 have a problem. If you're infringing on somebody else's other commandments, 1127 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.199 that's where the problem is. So stealing is bad because 1128 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:27.800 you're taking from somebody else. Murder is bad because you're 1129 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:31.039 infringing on their right to life or whatever. Uh, Fucking 1130 00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.599 somebody else's wife not good because that's their wife. Obviously 1131 00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.320 it's gonna hurt them. So that's what I think of 1132 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.039 with natural law is like the Ten Commandments, kind of 1133 00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:45.639 where you're up until the point you're infringing on somebody else. Basically, 1134 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.119 do what you want, not that it's good. Like I 1135 00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:50.800 don't recommend you go shoot Heroin in your eyeball today, 1136 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:52.880 But if you want to do that, I'm not going 1137 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:55.880 to stop you. That's that's your that's your fucking deal. 1138 00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:56.440 Go do it. 1139 00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:59.800 But if you shoot up Heroin and then you die 1140 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:02.719 because of it, and you and you don't have your 1141 00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.079 children are fatherless and all that, that's where you crossed 1142 00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:06.599 the line. 1143 00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:09.880 That was excess well, and you know, I'm really happy 1144 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:11.559 you brought up the Ten Commandments because I did a 1145 00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:14.079 little research on this not that long ago and learned 1146 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.400 about pretty much the whole story, at least that portion 1147 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.920 of the of the story anyway, where basically Moses goes up, 1148 00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.119 he goes up into Mount Sinai, he talks to God's 1149 00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:28.480 and gives them the Ten Commandments, right comes back down, 1150 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.119 and all those fucking people down there are all worshiping 1151 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.239 this golden calf. And what does Moses do along with 1152 00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:39.960 actually what God wanted to do was to kill all 1153 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:42.920 of those people that were worshiping the calf. Moses said, no, 1154 00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.039 don't do that, don't do that, Like let me go 1155 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.400 down there and talk to them. Moses goes down there, 1156 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:50.360 sees that they're worshiping the calf. That motherfucker murders all 1157 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:53.119 of them now right, and all the people that chose 1158 00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:56.880 uh to to you know, basically be on the side 1159 00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:58.840 of God and on the side of Moses. That that 1160 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.440 repented and they felt bad for worshiping the calf and 1161 00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.719 not having enough patience. Moses kept them around. Actually, God 1162 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.320 told Moses keep all them around until we don't need 1163 00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:10.000 them anymore. 1164 00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:10.239 Bro. 1165 00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:14.039 So, even the people, even the people who said, I'm sorry, 1166 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:17.000 I made a mistake, take all them out too, which 1167 00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:22.000 is hilarious because literally, within the ten Commandments, you shall 1168 00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:26.440 not murder. Literally the moment you get it, you go 1169 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:28.400 and murder hundreds. 1170 00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:29.960 Of people unless they deserve it. 1171 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:32.400 Yes, let me show you that. Hold on one second 1172 00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:33.559 before I read this, and it's. 1173 00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:35.280 A judgment call who deserves it. 1174 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:39.239 It's like God, arguably the dude who wrote the commandment 1175 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:41.559 who then said, yo, yeah, fuck those people. 1176 00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:43.559 I mean, look, I'm gonna be straight up. 1177 00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.519 These are the same people that just watched all of 1178 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:49.840 these plagues of Egypt, watch the Red Sea get parted, 1179 00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:53.119 watched with their own eyeballs, all this wild ass shit 1180 00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.199 and then they go build a golden calf. Yo, fuck them, 1181 00:55:56.239 --> 00:56:03.639 they didn't obvious, Like, we don't need them following us 1182 00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:04.679 to the Promised Land. 1183 00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.199 We need to remove them from the gene pool. Obviously, Obviously, 1184 00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:08.679 how long. 1185 00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:10.400 Is Moses gone? Like a couple of days in their 1186 00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:14.760 guests will build a golden calf and pray to that, Like, 1187 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:17.440 what are you doing enough? 1188 00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:21.199 Moses, the dude who wrote the Tin Commandments, the whole 1189 00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:25.880 nine because he did one thing out of place he 1190 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:29.400 wasn't allowed to go to Yeah, like one thing he 1191 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:34.039 wasn't but he wasn't foot in the Promised Land. 1192 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:39.320 Old Testament was dueh no. 1193 00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:44.199 U copens up a whole other can of worms, though, 1194 00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:49.199 And I with the space between when those books were 1195 00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:53.280 written and the fact that they were compiled by a 1196 00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.719 human in the authorized King James version, and the fact 1197 00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.159 the Ethiopian Bible has like, I don't know one the 1198 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.199 extra books in it, it's very suspect and it makes 1199 00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:08.000 me think, and it's very heretical to say this, especially 1200 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:11.039 as somebody who would identify as a Christian more closely. 1201 00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:15.400 It doesn't seem like the same fucking God, especially in 1202 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.519 the Torah than what Jesus is doing. It seems like 1203 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:25.719 two totally different things. And bear with me here, you're no, 1204 00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:27.960 that's that's pretty much it like, it seems like a 1205 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:31.519 totally different God. And the fact that Jewish people don't 1206 00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:35.719 recognize recognize Jesus but they do recognize the God of 1207 00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:39.519 the Talmud and the Torah seems pretty fucking suspect to 1208 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:42.639 me because they are. To me, Jewish people are worshiping 1209 00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:44.599 a different God, and that's a different podcast too. 1210 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:46.880 Well, let me ask you this, then, are do the 1211 00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:50.880 Jewish people recognize God speaking in the New Testament? I mean, 1212 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.159 forget about Jesus here for a second. Is that the 1213 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:55.880 word of God within the New Testament whenever he's being record? 1214 00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.719 Completely throw out the New Covenant, which is the New Testament, so. 1215 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:01.719 They only need like Old Testament. 1216 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.559 I don't throw out the Old Testament. But seriously, like 1217 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.360 some of the rules in there, like not wearing mixed garments, 1218 00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:11.960 first of all, like scientifically that's actually it's probably a 1219 00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:15.079 good idea, uh, but like the oh, if if a 1220 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.719 woman's bleeding through her vagina for that time of the month, 1221 00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:20.559 you put her out fucking outside the gates also agree 1222 00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:24.519 with that, But there's other ones too, like, uh, you 1223 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:27.800 know the goats. You gotta roast a goat and give 1224 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:30.079 God the fat and the blood and all this weird 1225 00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:33.639 shit like that that we don't do anymore. That seems 1226 00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:37.119 like a different God to me. Like, but that's old 1227 00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:43.239 Covenant though, right, right, right? But covenant. If it's old Covenant, 1228 00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.599 then you gotta kind of like not think about the 1229 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.199 Ten Commandments then also, because that's old Covenant. So you're 1230 00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:50.760 only going off of what Jesus says, right, Or are 1231 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.920 you picking and choosing which parts of the Old Covenant 1232 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:53.400 you're following? 1233 00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:56.079 No, but you gotta look at which parts of Jesus 1234 00:58:56.079 --> 00:59:00.000 told you specifically to follow. He said to keep God's commandments. 1235 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:02.960 He said that to all mankind, well. 1236 00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:06.880 Them to kill everybody, women and children, and also said 1237 00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:08.559 give me the fat of the lambs and all that. 1238 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:09.159 So which. 1239 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.800 God's commandments he was talking to He didn't say the 1240 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:13.599 Law of Abraham. 1241 00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.320 That was when he was speaking of the Jews. Hold on, 1242 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:18.159 we're about to get there. He said, keep God's commandments. 1243 00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:21.480 That would be the ten right. Then they asked him 1244 00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.559 what about the Law of Abraham and all these things. 1245 00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.840 And he said to the Jews, be Jewish, do your 1246 00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.039 Jewish thing. You've been doing this tradition for forever. Do 1247 00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.000 that you do you gentiles, be gentiles. That's cool. None 1248 00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:36.639 of that matters to God anymore. But like this is 1249 00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.880 how you're living your lives. Live your lives this way. 1250 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:41.599 What he's saying is that this is the new Covenant. 1251 00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:42.280 This is the new age. 1252 00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:44.280 There is no more jew and gentile. There is no 1253 00:59:44.360 --> 00:59:47.280 more this than that. There is God's people and there 1254 00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.320 is not. That is the only distinction from this point forward. 1255 00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:53.000 So to your point, yes, he's telling those that are 1256 00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.239 following the law of Abraham to continue doing so. 1257 00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.239 Those that are not don't do that. 1258 00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:01.960 The ones that are eating pig and aren't circumcising their children, bro, 1259 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.960 don't worry about all that. That doesn't matter anymore. This 1260 01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.159 is the new Covenant. This is the new the new 1261 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:11.760 deal that's been struck. So that Jesus also said to 1262 01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:14.360 keep the ten Commandments. There are certain things that he 1263 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.519 did tell us to keep from the Old Testament for 1264 01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:19.920 all people. Yes, he also told us to carry swords. 1265 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.320 He also told us to arm ourselves. I don't want 1266 01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:26.360 that to go unsaid either, and I agree with that one. 1267 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:28.800 Stay strapped to get clapped my boys, JC. 1268 01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:34.639 So I, how do you do I'm not real familiar 1269 01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:38.519 with the Talmud. I just know some very specific, fucked 1270 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:39.239 up parts of it. 1271 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:44.239 Yeah, how the talm is not in the Old Testament 1272 01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:44.679 at all? 1273 01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.519 No, I no, no, no. There's Talmudic Jews, and there's 1274 01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.079 regular Jews that own the jewelry store and they don't 1275 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.960 even practice or wear a yamaka or anything. So we've 1276 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:57.599 had this conversation so many times because we're like, it's 1277 01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:01.400 not anti semitic to say certain things that I'm not 1278 01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:05.239 going to say because it'll be called anti semitic. But right, right, 1279 01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:07.920 First of all, I don't think most of the Jews 1280 01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:11.239 out there right now are real Jews. They're Europeans who 1281 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:14.719 called themselves Jews for the purpose of I mean even that, 1282 01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:16.920 and yahoo, I'm not going on a jew ran. I'm 1283 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.800 just saying, like, the Talmudic part of it, how do 1284 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:23.119 they justify that with what everything else in the Torah says? 1285 01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:25.000 Or do they not follow the Torah? 1286 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:28.760 So they see the Torah the same way we see 1287 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.920 the Old Testament. They see it as the traditions that 1288 01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:36.559 got them to the point of needing. The Talmud almost 1289 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.199 we see the Old Testament as the story as to 1290 01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:41.199 how we got to the point of needing Jesus. 1291 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:45.239 They don't see the Talmud is religious extremism, like well, 1292 01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:46.559 the list of. 1293 01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.480 Rules, it's a list of rules of Jews, and don't 1294 01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.599 because the Jews are very liturgical people. They're very big 1295 01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.199 into the laws and the rules and keeping records of shit. 1296 01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.440 So Ari Shaffir did a great special on it called 1297 01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.960 jew and he broke down some of these are fucking ridiculous, 1298 01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:05.440 like the if a GOI was to come up to 1299 01:02:05.639 --> 01:02:09.239 the communal soup pot and just throw some ham in it, 1300 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.599 because you know, them fucking goy they'd be doing that 1301 01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.119 to Jews from time to time and just take off running. 1302 01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:16.679 Okay, wait, we don't like wasting shit. 1303 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:20.280 So what is the pork to soup ratio that is 1304 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.760 allowed under Talmudic law one in sixty by the way, 1305 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:25.760 and there is actually a Jewish word for that, and 1306 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:27.719 Ur shaf Your did a whole bit on it. So 1307 01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:31.559 the talm it has the wildest shit in it because 1308 01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:33.960 it was a list of rules that just was over 1309 01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.519 time compiled for instances. 1310 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:38.639 That they thought of as they went. 1311 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:41.280 That's that's what that's kind of like me from what 1312 01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:43.400 I've read, it's like you were right in this as 1313 01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.119 you went, weren't you, like what the fuck. 1314 01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:48.320 They one hundred percent were? And I'm not saying that 1315 01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:50.239 to throw shade on it. I'm saying it because it 1316 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:52.039 was ritten. If you look at the time and data 1317 01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:54.800 when it was written, I understand why you can throw 1318 01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:57.760 shade at it. And there's parts of it that absolutely 1319 01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:01.039 need to have shade thrown on it. But as far 1320 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:03.079 as how it was like a running dialogue, so to speak, 1321 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:04.840 it was while they were on the run. They were 1322 01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:07.559 trying to figure out how to be Jews in territory 1323 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:10.280 that was no longer Israel, so it was trying to 1324 01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:13.679 find the Jews and don'ts for wherever you live, so 1325 01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:14.239 to speak. 1326 01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:15.280 I get it. 1327 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:20.440 But also it absolutely gives permission to pedophiles and like 1328 01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:23.559 of the worst. So like that, also, we need to 1329 01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:25.119 make sure the shade gets thrown on it, you know 1330 01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:25.440 what I mean? 1331 01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:27.519 Makes sense of the tunnels in New York. 1332 01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:31.199 Yeah, dude, that's fucking I still blows my mind. 1333 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:32.559 That's fucking wild. 1334 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:38.599 Dude, it blows my mind. But it's also terribly not surprising. Belie. Yeah, 1335 01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:41.480 when it came out, I was like, that is disgusting, 1336 01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:44.440 and also I expect nothing less. Huh. 1337 01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:46.039 I didn't expect it from the Jews. 1338 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:49.239 Is it crazy that I expected it from the Koreans 1339 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:50.960 before I expected it from the Jews? 1340 01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:53.239 Am I the bad guy here? I need to know? 1341 01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:53.559 Yeah? 1342 01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:57.000 I mean you're definitely racist and anti Semitic, so good, 1343 01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:58.239 good job box checking. 1344 01:03:58.519 --> 01:03:59.679 Whenever it comes to. 1345 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.400 Gonna start tunneling, that's the wildest ship to me. 1346 01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:07.440 Okay, but look, whenever it comes to Abrahamic beliefs, I'll 1347 01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:10.599 just group it all together like that. Kids of our 1348 01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:11.960 kids are always getting fucked. 1349 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:14.880 Let's just be real. The priests, the Catholic priests. 1350 01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.199 Are doing it, the Muslims are doing it, the fucking 1351 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:18.119 Jews are doing it. 1352 01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:20.039 It's like everybody just wants to kiss. 1353 01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:22.679 I saw that from you. Thank you for that sound drop. Kids. 1354 01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.440 It's just the way it is in religion. 1355 01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:30.039 It's been across the world, dude, it didn't matter what religion. 1356 01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:33.280 You could look at the Roman legionnaires. They were notorious 1357 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:35.800 for raping children when they would come through a town. Sure, 1358 01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:38.239 if you look at Genghis khans Men, it's not just 1359 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:38.840 a religion. 1360 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:40.679 That point is. 1361 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:44.639 My point is is if it's not going to happen somewhere, 1362 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.000 you would expect it not to happen within a religion 1363 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:48.400 like that. 1364 01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:48.719 Right. 1365 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.880 If anywhere it's not going to happen, it shouldn't happen there, 1366 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:55.079 And yet it happens there more than almost everywhere else. 1367 01:04:56.239 --> 01:05:03.559 I agree, especially with such stringent rules. But and I've 1368 01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:06.519 heard a lot of people make arguments that it's because 1369 01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:11.280 back then people only live so long, and there is 1370 01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:14.079 an I wouldn't say an argument, but there I could 1371 01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:18.000 see where primitive people would say, once you go through puberty, 1372 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:21.039 you are a man or a woman, and that's why 1373 01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:23.840 they started fucking them At twelve or thirteen, they're like, oh, 1374 01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:27.079 you can have children, that means you're obviously a man 1375 01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:30.159 or a woman. And that carries on to indigenous people too, 1376 01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.760 where they go on spirit quest at twelve years old 1377 01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:34.119 and the dad sends them out into the woods and 1378 01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.159 they're like, if you live, then you're a man. If 1379 01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:38.920 you die, then fuck you. It's crazy, like they did 1380 01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:42.800 crazy shit. So it's only in recent like modern history 1381 01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:46.559 that we have this weird area of time called adolescence, 1382 01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:50.440 and it's fucked kids up because they they're in this 1383 01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:53.679 in between us where they're like, well, I'm not trustworthy 1384 01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.679 enough to be a you know, a man or a 1385 01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:59.320 woman or an adult yet, but I'm also not a 1386 01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:02.239 fucking kid in more so, we have this adolescence and 1387 01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:04.599 that's called the terrible teen years, and we all have 1388 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:06.119 to deal with it. If you have a kid, just 1389 01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:06.639 a few. 1390 01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.519 Years, Oh, I reread a motor vehicle. 1391 01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:10.320 Oh sorry, say all that again. 1392 01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:11.679 Yeah, I had muted. 1393 01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:14.480 No, you're all right, I said, in just a few years, 1394 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.159 you're allowed to operate a motor vehicle. 1395 01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:17.000 Terrifying. 1396 01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:20.679 I think sixteen fifteen and a half is a crazy, 1397 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:21.679 crazy time. 1398 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:23.400 It really is a car. 1399 01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:25.400 But I do agree with sending them out in the 1400 01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:27.599 woods with a spear and saying survive for three days. 1401 01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.400 I do too. I think I think it teaches though 1402 01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:36.480 what's missing from kids these days is responsibility, accountability for 1403 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:40.840 your actions because we love them, accountable for it. Jeckshit anymore. 1404 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:45.679 Yes, for life can depend on us self. Responsibility is 1405 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:47.159 another thing. You should just have that. 1406 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:51.800 But that's so true. The good times make you know whatever, 1407 01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:55.400 frag men make good times, Yeah, good times, make whatever. 1408 01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.440 Oh my god. And the one times I am so 1409 01:06:58.599 --> 01:06:59.480 proud of my son. 1410 01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:01.920 So I got a dummy because I train I do 1411 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:03.400 the armored fighting thing, so cool. 1412 01:07:03.400 --> 01:07:07.840 I got a dummy set up. My son was just ha, No, actually, 1413 01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:10.920 he's fucking on a roll. Kid, He's insane. 1414 01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.719 But anyway, so he was like spartan kicking the dummy 1415 01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:15.199 that I have set up, and it's like one of 1416 01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:18.280 those water based ones. The lid of it cracked and 1417 01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:19.840 he felt so bad about it, and I was like, 1418 01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:21.159 all right, buddy, let's see what's up. 1419 01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:22.119 A couple of. 1420 01:07:22.159 --> 01:07:25.639 Christmases ago, he got a three D printer pin and 1421 01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:28.719 he put the pieces together and started three D printing 1422 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:31.840 in like basically plastic welding this cat back together and 1423 01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.480 like grinding it down through some green on that shit. Yeah, 1424 01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:37.679 my kid's eleven years old. He's fucking tony starking this 1425 01:07:37.719 --> 01:07:40.079 shit back together. Now, I will say it did not 1426 01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.239 seal good with water. I'm gonna just put a layer 1427 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:44.840 of silicon in it and have him do it again. 1428 01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:47.920 But my point is it's the effort. See, kids don't 1429 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:49.880 know how to do shit anymore. 1430 01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:52.199 I forced my kids to figure it the fuck out 1431 01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:55.719 for situations like this. Could I have lost my mind 1432 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:59.039 and you broke my shirt? Yeah I could have. Who 1433 01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:01.079 would have learned from that? What would have been gained? 1434 01:08:01.719 --> 01:08:04.400 Or yeah, you're right, No, who would have learned from that? 1435 01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:06.199 Your kid? And he would have learned to be a 1436 01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:06.960 fucking asshole. 1437 01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:10.239 So yeah, you know what I mean one hundred percent. 1438 01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.880 And so it's ship like that. The kids haven't been 1439 01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:15.480 and it's not like you put your kids in bad 1440 01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:17.640 situations where you force them to figure it out. 1441 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:21.319 Look, life's gonna life. Curve balls are gonna do that. 1442 01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:23.000 Shit's gonna happen. 1443 01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:25.319 You need to be able to teach them how to 1444 01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:27.239 deal with the curveballs when they come. 1445 01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.560 Not be afraid of them, and don't don't react. 1446 01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.960 Ridiculously to them. You know, your day himself ship like 1447 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:38.359 that and your spear fuck yeah. 1448 01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:41.119 Right, snowflake is way overused, and it's kind of been 1449 01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:44.680 attributed to like Maga alt right, But no, we just 1450 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.920 mean people that can't do shit for themselves, who are 1451 01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:49.439 fucking pussies who get offended at everything, that dye their 1452 01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:51.880 hair blue and work at Starbucks because they can't do 1453 01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:53.479 anything else. That's what we're talking about. 1454 01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:57.079 When you react inappropriately to an obstacle in front of you, 1455 01:08:57.119 --> 01:08:58.239 basically that's all it is. 1456 01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:01.239 It's like, WHOA, calm down. And I grew up in 1457 01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.239 an era the eighties and nineties where we went outside 1458 01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:07.840 and ate dirt and fucking you know whatever. Helliet, I'm not. 1459 01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.680 I'm not. I recognize the difference between generations to it, 1460 01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:15.039 like when the boomers are like, well, back in my day, 1461 01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:16.920 I'm like, well, it was a different world. So I 1462 01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:19.720 try to I try to translate that to the kids now, 1463 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:21.920 where I'm like, it was a different fucking world in 1464 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.319 the nineties when I grew up, So I get that, 1465 01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:31.239 But there's certain things like it doesn't matter what world 1466 01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.119 you're living in, still applies. 1467 01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:36.439 Taught us to be strong, though. We taught our kids 1468 01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:40.159 and I'm not saying we like everybody, but this our 1469 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:45.000 generation created the kids that are Gen Z right now, 1470 01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:46.079 like sorry. 1471 01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.279 It's helicopter, it's helicopter. 1472 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:51.800 It is hard on us and we didn't want that. 1473 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.119 So we tried to protect our kids and tried to 1474 01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:56.840 just talk to them and say it's okay, just talk 1475 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.199 to people about your feelings. Instead of saying also, sometimes 1476 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:01.760 you might have to punch them in the face, so 1477 01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:03.119 that's okay, Yeah. 1478 01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:04.560 Sure, you can cut your dick off whatever. 1479 01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:06.479 Me and Jacob have a mutual friend. 1480 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:08.279 I don't want to call out any names here or anything, 1481 01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:12.800 but they do that softcore parenting bullshit, and for some 1482 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:16.520 reason that is just socially accepted to where you know, 1483 01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.159 you never scream at your kid, you never raise your voice, 1484 01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:20.960 you don't spank them, you don't punish them in any 1485 01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:23.279 kind of way, you don't take away their video games. 1486 01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:27.439 Are nothing like that. It is absolute. It's I honestly 1487 01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.760 view it as pussy parenting. And some people will say, well, 1488 01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:32.880 that's how the kid is gonna grow up, and they're 1489 01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:35.520 they're gonna be more mature because they're not gonna be 1490 01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:37.479 looked down on and they're not gonna be punished, so 1491 01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:39.359 they're not gonna be you know, they're not gonna have 1492 01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:41.439 a certain type of way about looking at the world. 1493 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.239 And I'm just like, I'm looking at their kid and 1494 01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.560 I'm just like, this kid's a fucking asshole. 1495 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:48.359 Like it makes sense that you're parenting this. 1496 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:51.600 Way, sociopath dude, Like this kid's going to kill people. 1497 01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:55.439 Yeah, exactly, Like whenever you like your kid, literally, will 1498 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:56.800 will believe at that. 1499 01:10:56.840 --> 01:10:59.279 Point, I can do whatever I want. If I want to. 1500 01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:01.760 Kill up and kick my teacher in the balls, there's 1501 01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:03.840 not gonna be in any repercussions because my parents didn't 1502 01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.520 spank me, my parents didn't discipline me in any kind 1503 01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:08.399 of way. Whenever I kick my daddy in the balls, 1504 01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:11.199 it's like, what the fuck is wrong with people? It's like, 1505 01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:13.199 I don't get it. Oh, you know what it is. 1506 01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:17.199 And these are the same types of fucking you know what. Ooh, 1507 01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:18.760 I don't mean that. You know how I go on 1508 01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.600 my rants. I'm not gonna scream, I'm gonna keep it calm. 1509 01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:25.279 But on your fucking parents that throw their kids in 1510 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:28.000 front of a tablet, in front of a screen. Now listen, 1511 01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:30.760 I am not talking about when you're on a road 1512 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:33.680 trip and you're in a very small, confined space for 1513 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:35.319 like eight fucking hours. 1514 01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:37.279 Look, you do what you have to do to survive. 1515 01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:40.760 No one's judging, Okay, I'm talking about the parents that 1516 01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.439 like when their kids get home from school, they don't 1517 01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.079 talk to them. They don't know who their kid's best 1518 01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:48.439 friend is, they don't know who their kids crush is 1519 01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:51.079 they throw on whatever's in front of them, and they 1520 01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:55.159 started so young. Now there are studies that have recently 1521 01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:58.239 come out that these kids of the last since twenty 1522 01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:01.880 twenty to now, these kids that have been shown blippy 1523 01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:05.760 and cocoa melon and all this shit NonStop, have less 1524 01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:09.520 gray matter in their brain, like their brains are actually 1525 01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.760 developing at a slower rate, and they don't know how 1526 01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:15.479 to teach these kids that are now getting to the 1527 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.319 very foundational building block ages of how to read, how 1528 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:22.079 to write, how to do basic math, while they're trying 1529 01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:24.640 to teach common core bullshit or whatever this shit is. 1530 01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:29.239 But a side moment plus two equals five, that's common core. 1531 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:32.239 It's this thing where two plus two equals four. 1532 01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:34.000 But the reason why is cause you take two and 1533 01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:36.159 break it down to one plus one and then one 1534 01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:38.039 plus one, and now it's one plus one plus one 1535 01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:40.680 plus one equals four. And somehow that makes way more 1536 01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:44.960 sense than just showing them that I don't fucking get it, 1537 01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:49.760 but whatever, I blame Asians anyway. So this this whole thing, 1538 01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:53.319 these kids are coming into school with less gray matter 1539 01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:58.159 in their brain in actual, scientifically trackable shorter attention spans. 1540 01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:02.239 Now every fucking it has add every kid is on 1541 01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:04.760 the spectrum, and it's like, wait a minute, no, they 1542 01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:07.640 really fucking are because their parents just kept them in 1543 01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:09.680 front of the TV for the last five years of 1544 01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:12.520 their life and now they're in first grade and they're fucked. 1545 01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:16.960 And well, no, it's that mixed with there's so many 1546 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:20.560 diagnoses now in the DSM and shit that you can 1547 01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:23.039 basically just flip through it and be like, that's me, 1548 01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:26.640 I need a medicine now, and then every shitty thing 1549 01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.000 you do you can just be like it's because of that. 1550 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:31.600 And I saw so many kids when I worked with 1551 01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:34.520 kids on the spectrum. There are kids who you can 1552 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:39.199 tell were like, legit, they could have been vaccine injured, yeah, 1553 01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:41.399 or born that way. I'm not one hundred percent sure, 1554 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:44.079 but I know magnet therapy is a huge thing with autism. 1555 01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:45.600 But whatever, we don't have to get into that. But 1556 01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.800 there are other kids that came to me so to 1557 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:53.119 get to me, I was the intervention specialist and the 1558 01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:55.399 program manager. The only way that they would come to 1559 01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.720 me is if they already have a diagnosis from a 1560 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:02.880 licensed therapist, and then through the Far Northern Regional Center, 1561 01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:06.079 which is like they like social workers that kind of 1562 01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:10.159 go out whatever, who cares. There's regional centers all over California, 1563 01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:13.319 so but they have social workers that go out and 1564 01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:17.199 just diagnose these kids, and a lot of them would 1565 01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.600 I would say a majority of them didn't necessarily have 1566 01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:23.079 true autism in my opinion, and I am not a 1567 01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:26.800 medical doctor, but they just had massive behavioral issues. And 1568 01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:30.000 that was also just they said autism is an umbrella. 1569 01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:32.119 There's so many things that it can be, which is 1570 01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:36.279 completely true. But I met lots of kids though, who 1571 01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:40.159 couldn't talk, who didn't understand anything. Or one time I 1572 01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:42.399 showed a kid who was responsive to nothing, like he 1573 01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.199 didn't interact with his parents. He was only eighteen months old. 1574 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:47.680 I showed him numbers, and I thought it would be boring. 1575 01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:50.000 I brought these number of cards one day, and this 1576 01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:52.439 is the only story I have like this. He's like 1577 01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:55.720 a number savant. And I saw so many kiddos, but 1578 01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:59.520 he knew what they were. And he was eighteen months old. 1579 01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:03.600 His mom would tell people, Oh, this is Jen, She's 1580 01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:06.479 teaching him numbers, and I was like, no, no, he's 1581 01:15:06.479 --> 01:15:08.439 a baby, I'm not teaching him numbers. Like he already 1582 01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:10.960 knows what they are. I would say ten and he 1583 01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:13.920 would go ten. His first words were numbers, and they 1584 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:16.760 were with me. And that's an awful fucking feeling to 1585 01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:19.239 be in front of the parents and the kid says 1586 01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:22.239 their first words with a complete stranger, Like you'd think 1587 01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:24.800 that would feel great, but it doesn't. You want those 1588 01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:26.840 first words to be with the parents, and. 1589 01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:29.199 It's like inside was like fuck, yeah. 1590 01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:32.399 Yeah, no, it wasn't. No, it felt horrible because they 1591 01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:32.760 were like. 1592 01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.479 Paly happy too. The mom was happy the kid finally 1593 01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:37.680 spoke at all. 1594 01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:40.439 Yeah, yeah, they were, they were, but I mean. 1595 01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:43.640 Then yeah, it was it mama or dad. Don that sucks, right. 1596 01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:46.279 They would be like, we were out at Costco. This 1597 01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:48.800 one girl, I so, who definitely had true autism. She 1598 01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:51.800 also liked numbers actually, but she would she would point 1599 01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:54.159 out I had to sing to her for the entire 1600 01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:56.800 hour that I saw her, just songs the whole time 1601 01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:00.119 while the family watched Super Fun. But she said, we 1602 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.520 were in Costco the other day and my daughter said 1603 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:07.239 she pointed, which is something kids with autism typically do 1604 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:11.239 not do either. She pointed and said free and pointed 1605 01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:13.800 to the three that was like glowing over the Costco 1606 01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:16.359 register or whatever, and like that was like the first 1607 01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:19.039 time she done anything like that because she was just 1608 01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:22.840 I don't know, they're wired differently. The kids who were 1609 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:25.880 just literally like the kids who spit chocolate milk in 1610 01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:28.720 my face or punched me in the face or like 1611 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.000 cut my face, like they almost I almost had to 1612 01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:33.199 stitches because this kid broke my face with a train. 1613 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:36.079 He didn't have autism, in my opinion, he just was 1614 01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:38.159 sitting in front of a tablet for his entire life, 1615 01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:41.159 just a fuck. And yeah, like some kids are bad, 1616 01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:43.359 but they're like that's autism too. So I don't know 1617 01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:46.239 if the if autism is truly as prevalent as they're 1618 01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:46.840 saying it is. 1619 01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:47.720 I would point a. 1620 01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:49.439 Lot of that, But like I was talking about with 1621 01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:51.399 the DSM and like, oh, you can just pick one 1622 01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:55.039 out that suits you. The victim mentality, and that's a 1623 01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:57.680 different thing. We've done whole shows on that. The victim 1624 01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:01.159 mentality is taught to kids now where they're like everything 1625 01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:05.800 is somebody else's fault, Like whatever you do, it's it's 1626 01:17:06.199 --> 01:17:09.039 you can find somebody to blame that on, Okay, as 1627 01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:12.119 long as it's not yourself. Use the passive tens like 1628 01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:14.119 it's it's fucking wild. 1629 01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:16.479 Well, I actually have an article we can read in 1630 01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:20.800 the meantime because there is something that I found really fascinating, 1631 01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:23.680 and there was a there was actually somebody we had 1632 01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:26.680 on my other podcast, Meta Mysteries that was bringing this up. 1633 01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:29.319 As far as you know, a lot of the drones 1634 01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:31.560 that are being seen in the sky, could they possibly 1635 01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:36.159 be alien? Could they be you know, adversary drones that 1636 01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:38.920 are just coming into our airspace and and we don't 1637 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.279 have any way of tracking them or or whatever. 1638 01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:42.439 And some people are. 1639 01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:44.720 Saying, well, these drones, they're a little different, and that's why, 1640 01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:47.560 you know, they believe that they could possibly be aliens, 1641 01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:50.039 because there's a they're the size of a small car, 1642 01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:54.319 right and and and then so we we looked up 1643 01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:57.680 this article and it's actually from Asia Times dot com 1644 01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.000 and I'll actually share it here because it is wild. 1645 01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:01.920 Good times. 1646 01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:06.119 Asia Times bro they've been doing this drone shit. It 1647 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:08.720 says this is just one of the articles which is 1648 01:18:08.720 --> 01:18:12.239 pretty interesting, but it says China unveils new aerial cluster 1649 01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:16.279 drone for swarm attacks. Okay, and that's exactly what they 1650 01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:18.720 say is going on up in New Jersey where basically 1651 01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:23.560 you'll have one seemingly one singular drone up there, and 1652 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.000 then they'll spread out, almost like the Phoenix lights kind 1653 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:29.560 of situation where it started as one and then it 1654 01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:32.039 kind of just builds up into a hundred of them 1655 01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.199 or a thousand of them or whatever it was. But 1656 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:37.039 if you look at this, all of these are they 1657 01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:39.880 can go into one unit and then they spread out 1658 01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:42.039 and disperse all over the place. But it says that 1659 01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:45.800 here in this article, Chinese scientists have developed a new 1660 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:49.239 type of war drone. They can rapidly multiply mid air 1661 01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:55.640 a tactical shock and off phenomenon potential against potential adversaries. 1662 01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:55.920 Like the US. 1663 01:18:56.800 --> 01:19:00.000 So how about that they're already talking about against potent 1664 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:03.479 cential adversaries like the United States. This is from the 1665 01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:07.079 Asia Times. That's exactly what we're seeing up in New Jersey. 1666 01:19:07.159 --> 01:19:09.039 In my opinion, a lot of people are saying, well, 1667 01:19:09.079 --> 01:19:12.159 you're seeing the green and the red lights on it, 1668 01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:14.239 so I don't know if it could be alien or whatever. 1669 01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:16.119 And I'm sorry, dude, I know there's people out there 1670 01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:18.880 that want to believe that this is alien shit. I 1671 01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:21.720 just don't buy it. Like from what I've seen as 1672 01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:25.239 far as what I believe are alien, I'm not buying 1673 01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:27.399 this being alien shit now. 1674 01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:31.000 They're behaving too much like humans. If it was alien, 1675 01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:34.159 it would they would be doing things that were weird. 1676 01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:37.479 They're doing things like what a drone does, what any 1677 01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:40.159 drone that we've ever seen does. And I'm not saying 1678 01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:44.239 everything's you know, exact, but we're not. I haven't seen 1679 01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:47.920 anything that makes me think it's actually aliens. I mean, 1680 01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:50.800 and I don't want to say except this is something 1681 01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:53.000 that a drone could absolutely do. But I've heard I've 1682 01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:55.880 read articles too where people flew their own drones up 1683 01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:58.840 to try to track the drone and as soon as 1684 01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:01.279 they flew their drone up clothes to it, it was 1685 01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:05.680 taken over or the battery was dead immediately. Did you 1686 01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:06.640 read that stuff. 1687 01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:09.239 Too, No, I didn't hear about that. But I feel 1688 01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:13.239 like the AI that is being created literally on a 1689 01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:16.840 NonStop basis and with the whole machine learning, I feel 1690 01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:20.760 like that's something you could teach AI like personally, like 1691 01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:25.159 you know, especially for warlike times like check out this article. 1692 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.800 Well this isn't from Asian Times, this is actually from 1693 01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:33.720 droneexl dot com. But it says the US. Oh, hold on, 1694 01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:38.239 it actually says the US, UK and Australia test AI 1695 01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:43.439 powered drone swarms in groundbreaking military exercise. This was back 1696 01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:46.039 in August of this year. This article was posted and 1697 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:49.399 so and also I was like, you know, just taking 1698 01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:51.560 a look at some of these drones, they look pretty cool, 1699 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:53.479 like little mini fighter jet looking things. 1700 01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:56.600 But if you notice on. 1701 01:20:56.439 --> 01:20:59.359 The the what is it called the spoiler I guess 1702 01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:02.439 of this airplane or of this drone tail fin of 1703 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:06.039 the tail fin right, look, it says blue bear on it. Dude, 1704 01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:08.840 you change out that are on the end and you 1705 01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:10.359 replace it with an M. 1706 01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:12.840 That's fucking blue bean. That's what they're doing, bro. 1707 01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:14.840 Like, I honestly believe that that this is on some 1708 01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:17.239 Blue Beam level shit, because if you see like some 1709 01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:19.640 of the drone exercise, like some of the drone shows, 1710 01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:22.399 even like how they'll all come together, and this is 1711 01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:24.520 exactly what people have been saying the Blue Beam was 1712 01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:26.720 eventually going to be in the future one day. 1713 01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:29.079 Where it'll basically just be. 1714 01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:31.159 Like a show put on in the sky and you're 1715 01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:34.000 gonna see all the religious figures come together and form 1716 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:35.960 into one entity. 1717 01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:36.800 That sounds like. 1718 01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:40.199 Something you could do for like a drone show. 1719 01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:44.239 Right, This type of drone is very antiquated though, I 1720 01:21:44.239 --> 01:21:47.439 mean drone technology that's like an older one, like the 1721 01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:49.560 predator drones like we had in the military when I 1722 01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:53.039 was in was basically like a small plane. And then 1723 01:21:53.079 --> 01:21:55.560 we had the very very small one that could like 1724 01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:57.960 fit in a backpack and you had to like hammet 1725 01:21:58.119 --> 01:21:59.640 and it was like you know those like big star 1726 01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:01.720 phone planes you used to put together that would like 1727 01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:02.560 glide when. 1728 01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:02.880 You were a kid. 1729 01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:06.039 Oh yeah, it was like three times the size of that, 1730 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:10.359 and like that was the smallest quote unquote drone that 1731 01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:12.439 we had, but it was only with a camera. 1732 01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:15.439 It only could fly so far away, and it was 1733 01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:17.920 half the time. It sucked and you couldn't use it. 1734 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.399 Yeah, these ones, aren't you know? 1735 01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:21.880 These You wouldn't mistake these for a small car in 1736 01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:24.800 the sky. These are clearly like smaller drones. 1737 01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:25.439 This exactly. 1738 01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:28.119 We're reporting that they saw planes. It looked like a plane, 1739 01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:30.760 and then some people were reporting drones. Like people are 1740 01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:35.239 reporting different things. The confusion I think is deliberate as well, right. 1741 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:37.039 Right, well, And what I want to put out here 1742 01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:39.439 to check the shit out, dude, It says the British 1743 01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:42.720 contingent contributed a fleet of drones developed by Blue Bear, 1744 01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:46.600 including two red Kite drones capable of traveling up to 1745 01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:50.319 sixty miles with a five kilogram payload, and then also 1746 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:55.479 six Ghost drones previously tested in the UK's largest military 1747 01:22:55.560 --> 01:22:59.039 drone swarm trial. So like they've been working on this 1748 01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:02.039 kind of shit, and I think that that's honestly, I 1749 01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:04.680 think that's what we're seeing. I think that these are 1750 01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:10.359 just an advanced form of drone that most eyes haven't 1751 01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:15.079 seen before. Like technology is constantly an advancing and with 1752 01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:17.960 the use of AI, it's going to be advancing exponentially, 1753 01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:20.159 and I think that that's exactly what we're seeing in 1754 01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:21.119 the guy's personally. 1755 01:23:22.439 --> 01:23:25.159 So I guess the FBI is involved now with the 1756 01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:27.720 drones over New Jersey, But what the fuck? Why not 1757 01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:31.279 the military? Why isn't there more being said about what 1758 01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:33.479 the military is doing it. 1759 01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:34.199 For national security? 1760 01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:35.119 Yeah? 1761 01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:37.600 I don't know. I feel like something like this that's 1762 01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:40.079 a big deal that everyone's reporting on. Everyone has their 1763 01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:43.199 own TikTok channel now and they're just recording all this shit. 1764 01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:45.760 No one's shutting it down. I feel like it would 1765 01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:47.920 be shut down really quick, or there would be some 1766 01:23:47.960 --> 01:23:50.439 sort of action taken like you can't do this or 1767 01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:52.840 you can't do that, something that maybe we all wouldn't 1768 01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:56.279 like that would happen to at least address the problem. 1769 01:23:56.319 --> 01:23:57.560 And I just feel like that's absent. 1770 01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:00.319 Well, if you listen to the Congressional here ring in 1771 01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:04.720 the Department of State or whatever the fuck department government bullshit, 1772 01:24:05.800 --> 01:24:08.920 the lady that answered the questions like is this ours 1773 01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:11.760 or is it somebody else's, she said, no, it's not ours, 1774 01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:15.760 and it's also not somebody else's, So shout out to 1775 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:18.960 our big dumb mouth. My favorite show of all time, 1776 01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:23.119 h cretch It on there was saying, so it's contractors. 1777 01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:26.079 This is where they loophole shit, where they're like, it's 1778 01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:29.720 not ours, it's not our American military. It's also not Iran. 1779 01:24:31.159 --> 01:24:34.199 It's a private contractor who's testing some shit out, but 1780 01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:38.720 they're under the umbrella of the US government, so they 1781 01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:42.520 don't have to recognize it as US government, but they're 1782 01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:47.159 contracted out. So they're also told to stand down from 1783 01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:49.239 doing anything about it because they're like, no, we're just 1784 01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:52.319 doing exercises or whatever. That seems the most probable to 1785 01:24:52.359 --> 01:24:53.840 me do I think it's aliens. 1786 01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.520 No, dude, I actually I peel were going. 1787 01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:58.359 To take that and think it's aliens. Keep going. 1788 01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:01.119 No, I actually have a video of one of the 1789 01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.800 New Jersey, one of the New Jersey state representatives, speaking 1790 01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:08.000 on what he was able to witness inside of that 1791 01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:11.239 courtroom or whatever. Right, and dude, y'all are gonna fucking 1792 01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:13.359 lose your shit whenever you hear what he has to 1793 01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:16.079 say on it. It's pretty hilarious. Actually it's like two and 1794 01:25:16.079 --> 01:25:18.319 a half minutes. But just listen to this like it's 1795 01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:19.159 it's crazy. 1796 01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:22.159 All right, So you're here today, you were just inside. 1797 01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:25.079 You walked out? Why I walked out? Because it was worthless. 1798 01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:28.600 It was the biggest amateur hour presentation I've ever seen 1799 01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:32.439 about anything. Okay, it was ridiculous. There were no answers. 1800 01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:34.760 Every question that was asked by a member of the 1801 01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:38.319 state legislature are great questions, no answers, no resolution. They 1802 01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:39.920 don't know where the drones are coming from, they don't 1803 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:41.640 know who's doing it, they don't know why they're doing it, 1804 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:44.279 but they say there's no credible threat. It was annoying 1805 01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:46.399 to be there. I drove two hours to be here today. 1806 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:48.000 Spend an hour in there. I got to drive two 1807 01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:50.800 hours back, the biggest waste of five hours in my 1808 01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:51.800 entire life. 1809 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:53.199 So why do you think they called this meeting? 1810 01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:53.680 No idea? 1811 01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:55.600 Why would you call me to tell people you don't 1812 01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:57.319 know anything? I have no idea? 1813 01:25:57.359 --> 01:25:59.359 And then when the legislators would ask questions, there were 1814 01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:02.720 no answers. Here's the most frustrating part. The Courlis State 1815 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:05.560 police said that he had a helicopter of his flying 1816 01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:08.720 over above one of these drones, a six foot drone 1817 01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:10.760 or something. I can't remember exactly what he said, and 1818 01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:12.880 he just he felt unsafe for his helicopter, so we 1819 01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:15.600 just let it go, just let it go, and where 1820 01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:15.840 to go? 1821 01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:16.359 Who knows? 1822 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:18.279 You know? Didn't want to follow it because he didn't 1823 01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:20.640 feel safe. Is that not the most ridiculous thing you've 1824 01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:21.079 ever heard? 1825 01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:23.760 I mean, honestly, do they have any Do they have 1826 01:26:23.760 --> 01:26:25.720 any idea where these drones are originating? 1827 01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:27.800 No, they don't. They would maybe if they followed that 1828 01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:30.479 sucker when it landed, they would know, but they don't. 1829 01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:34.399 This is this is a complete lack of effort in 1830 01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:36.640 my opinion, on trying to figure this out. This is 1831 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:40.000 not about ability. We have the technology, we have the people, 1832 01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:41.920 we have the training, we have the resources, we have 1833 01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:44.479 the money. It's just a lack of effort. I mean 1834 01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:47.079 they are I don't know, I don't know. They should 1835 01:26:47.079 --> 01:26:48.479 be saying, you know what they should have done today 1836 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:51.079 with productive use of our time. If they didn't know anything, 1837 01:26:51.319 --> 01:26:53.920 come in there and say, hey, legislators, we don't know anything, 1838 01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:57.039 but if you get us these ten things, do these 1839 01:26:57.079 --> 01:26:59.960 ten things for us, and the governor calls in this 1840 01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.359 kind of action, we can figure it out. Will you 1841 01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:02.880 help us? 1842 01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:04.159 And then we would have helped them. 1843 01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:06.600 But instead it was just excuse after excuse and we 1844 01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:09.279 know nothing. It was infuriating and I got up and. 1845 01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:09.760 I walked out. 1846 01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:10.880 You've been in the service, I love. 1847 01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:13.520 This was an attack helicopter pilot APATCHE helicopter pilot in 1848 01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:16.920 the Army, and I helped stand up the initial Unmanned 1849 01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:19.600 Aircraft Training Battalion in the Aviation sector of the Army. 1850 01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:21.279 So I know a little bit about what I'm talking about. 1851 01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:23.479 And these guys are not doing the job they need 1852 01:27:23.479 --> 01:27:25.079 to do to figure out what's going on, and that 1853 01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:28.960 is the Department Homeland Security, the FBI, and the state Police. 1854 01:27:29.159 --> 01:27:31.760 And they're saying no, no threat to two Americans. 1855 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:33.439 They're saying, no threat, but had the hell do they know? 1856 01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:35.640 They don't know anything. They don't know what it is, 1857 01:27:35.800 --> 01:27:37.760 they don't know where it come from, they don't know nothing. 1858 01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:41.319 When I walked in here today, I was actually pretty calm. 1859 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:42.880 I was excited to be here to find out a 1860 01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:45.159 couple of things. I thought they'd be like, hey, listen, 1861 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:48.239 it's FedEx trying to figure out. But instead I got 1862 01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:51.399 the most ridiculous amateur hour briefing I've ever sat through. 1863 01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:56.279 Wow, yes, dud, dude, I love that guy. So I 1864 01:27:56.359 --> 01:28:00.159 heard that clip earlier today and I'm like, so that's 1865 01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.760 everybody in this community. Every time there's a congressional hearing 1866 01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:08.920 with Grush or u jouel is Isondo or anything, everybody's like, 1867 01:28:09.079 --> 01:28:11.800 that was a fucking waste of time. Why would we 1868 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:14.399 tune into this for you to tell us fucking nothing. 1869 01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:18.359 They're like, yeah, there's some ship up there, and we're like, yeah, 1870 01:28:18.439 --> 01:28:21.279 we know what is it? You tell me it's not 1871 01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:23.600 on radar. You're full of shit. 1872 01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:28.199 I have a theory and it's just and this could 1873 01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:29.920 go two ways on it, honestly or. 1874 01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:33.000 Misinformation, no conspiracy theorist. 1875 01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:35.720 Yes, one hundred percent on that one. All right. 1876 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:37.520 So you said that there were green and red lights 1877 01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:39.720 on it. Okay, so that tells me at least it's 1878 01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.800 man made. I do not believe it's alien craft. However, 1879 01:28:42.840 --> 01:28:46.279 I do think that we can tie in a very 1880 01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:49.359 famous alien craft into this. Let me let me take 1881 01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:52.000 you out back in time a couple of decades, real quick, Okay, 1882 01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.680 there was an alleged crash landing in New Mexico area 1883 01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:00.920 called Roswell, and there was a crash that was recovered 1884 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:04.039 by the United States government. Over the next few decades, 1885 01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:06.720 there was some technology that was reverse engineered and some 1886 01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:10.520 new types of aircraft that were being tested flying over 1887 01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:13.760 the Nevada Desert. A lot of people called in these 1888 01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.199 crazy flying crafts, saying that they didn't know what it was. 1889 01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:18.720 They thought it was a UFO. The government told them 1890 01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:20.680 not to worry about it. It wasn't a threat. Now, 1891 01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.960 some of those were in fact UFO sightings. Some of 1892 01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:30.119 those were people seeing a new bomber or a new 1893 01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:33.239 jet or something for the first time that no human 1894 01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:35.760 had ever seen flying before, and they didn't know what 1895 01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:37.439 the fuck to make of it. Now, some of that 1896 01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:41.319 arguably was built using reverse engineered alien tech. 1897 01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:43.960 Now, could this be something similar? 1898 01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:48.039 Could this be some sort of a United States like 1899 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:51.560 you're saying, government contractor who knows, possibly some sort of 1900 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:55.239 a drone lab in that area that is testing the 1901 01:29:55.279 --> 01:29:56.880 capabilities of this type of thing. 1902 01:29:57.399 --> 01:29:59.720 They should have gone to the middle of bum fuck nowhere. 1903 01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:03.039 But the these people, they think it's drones, so nobody'll notice. 1904 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:06.920 I wouldn't be shocked if we started seeing drones the 1905 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:10.319 size of cars being used in our military, uh, you know, 1906 01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:14.199 recruiting campaigns and commercials and shit here in the next 1907 01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:17.439 ten years of the new tech wing of the Space Force, 1908 01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:20.000 and you just had these things of these massive fucking 1909 01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:22.680 drones that look like the terminator fucked one and like 1910 01:30:22.720 --> 01:30:25.039 this is what came out and like boom, and like you. 1911 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:25.760 See what I'm saying. 1912 01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:29.239 Could it be that what we are seeing is experimental, 1913 01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:33.199 possible future government tech getting test flights and people are 1914 01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:35.079 catching possible footage of it. 1915 01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:38.359 Yeah, sure that's possible, But why would you do it 1916 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:40.680 in a way that would scare your own people. 1917 01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:42.680 Because they know it's a twenty four hour news cycle 1918 01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:43.880 and everybody's gonna forget. 1919 01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:47.119 And the only way I'm not I'm not from the military, 1920 01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:48.720 but I do know that the only way they would 1921 01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:52.920 ever recruit people by showing footage of those drones that 1922 01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:55.359 are the size of cars is if we already knew 1923 01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:57.840 that our enemies had those, because we're not gonna let 1924 01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:00.359 them know that we have that kind of technology. So 1925 01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:01.079 I don't know. 1926 01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:02.319 I think it's weird. 1927 01:31:03.199 --> 01:31:05.800 I'm saying, like, in the future, like ten years from now, 1928 01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:08.640 we may see a commercial of a drone the size 1929 01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:11.439 of a car on it, Like we this is an experiment. 1930 01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:13.760 Now, they're not ready to release that to the world yet. 1931 01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:17.359 But maybe here in the future they'll be like unleasheing 1932 01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:18.159 this new thing. 1933 01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:20.000 It'll be a whole you know, don't. 1934 01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:21.680 Maybe, but like at the at the cost of what, Like, 1935 01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:24.039 you just scared the people of New Jersey and pissed 1936 01:31:24.039 --> 01:31:26.600 off a bunch of people and left everyone in confusion 1937 01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:27.920 just because you were testing. 1938 01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:29.600 So that's fucked up. 1939 01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:31.279 That is really fucked up. 1940 01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:33.880 The Americans like a teenager, they don't give a shit 1941 01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:35.720 who it effects. They're just doing their thing. 1942 01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:38.039 So and how are they going to recruit the people 1943 01:31:38.079 --> 01:31:40.720 to come work for them when we know they're fucking liars. 1944 01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:42.399 Why would I want to work for a bunch. 1945 01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:44.520 Of fucking because I would say ninety percent of the 1946 01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:47.600 population still trust what they see on the TV. It's 1947 01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:51.479 that fucking easy. Uh, Like back in the eighties when 1948 01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:53.439 they first released I think it was in the eighties 1949 01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:55.600 when they first were like, look at this crazy shit 1950 01:31:55.760 --> 01:32:00.600 and they rolled out the B two Bomber. Yeah, there's 1951 01:32:00.880 --> 01:32:04.039 still to this day like debate on how the fuck 1952 01:32:04.079 --> 01:32:07.920 that thing flies without a tail fin? Every other plane 1953 01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:12.560 in existence has a tail fin and like stabilizer. 1954 01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:13.800 Do you know the answer to this? 1955 01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:15.279 This is a flying it too? 1956 01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:18.840 Oh you're talking about the flat disc one? 1957 01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:19.039 Yeah? 1958 01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:20.239 Yeah, yah, no, no, my bad. 1959 01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:20.600 To be too. 1960 01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:24.079 You know, it's a triangle about the stealthing that had 1961 01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:28.119 all the hard jagged edges, different one, different one. 1962 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:32.439 Right, the B two Spirit it's completely flat. It's awesome. 1963 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:35.880 It's a feat of engineering. I think here's a weird thing. 1964 01:32:36.359 --> 01:32:39.640 This went back to the eighties. If I'm not mistaken 1965 01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:41.359 in fact check me if you want. I don't care. 1966 01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:43.319 But I think it was back in the eighties when 1967 01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:46.640 they first publicly publicly came out with this and everyone 1968 01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:51.199 was like what, Yeah, you don't think that thing was 1969 01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:54.920 in the works for a few decades before that exactly, 1970 01:32:55.079 --> 01:32:58.439 and made sure it worked. And now they're like in 1971 01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:00.920 the eighties or like, look at this. They still fly 1972 01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:03.199 that motherfucker today as far as we know. So what 1973 01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:05.680 else do they have that They're like a decade away 1974 01:33:05.680 --> 01:33:08.399 from being like, look what we have now and really 1975 01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:10.840 happen out since nineteen ninety five, like. 1976 01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:14.760 Exactly, And so many people saw the Prototype B two 1977 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:16.960 flying and said they saw a flying saucer. 1978 01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:18.680 Right, it's a triangle. 1979 01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:23.079 So debuty tracking the human response as well, to be like, 1980 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:26.159 what will our enemies say about this? How will you feel? 1981 01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:27.119 How will they respond? 1982 01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:30.439 Call it a uh fire drill? 1983 01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:34.680 Right, yeah, it's all drills, baby drill, baby drill. 1984 01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:38.000 How will the public respond if they saw a bunch 1985 01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:42.199 of wild, unexplainable shit just out of nowhere and as 1986 01:33:42.239 --> 01:33:44.600 they have just seen, people will TikTok about it. 1987 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.039 But people will still just go on about their daily lives. 1988 01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:50.079 No, and in five years they won't even remember. They'll 1989 01:33:50.119 --> 01:33:52.600 be like, oh, yeah, I remember seeing that back when 1990 01:33:52.680 --> 01:33:55.920 I was like this age. Oh that's cool. It's out 1991 01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:57.760 there now, and they're like, yeah, I don't know. 1992 01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:00.239 Ten years, it'll probably be like forty years or I'll 1993 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:01.079 finally release it. 1994 01:34:01.359 --> 01:34:04.479 I don't know. With the attention span of today's youth 1995 01:34:04.760 --> 01:34:07.680 and everything going on, it could be six months and 1996 01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:08.079 they'd be. 1997 01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:11.239 Like, well, we'll say something good about about gen Z. 1998 01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:15.479 They don't trust shit, which is really funny because they 1999 01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:17.920 see all this shit on TikTok that they do know 2000 01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:20.279 is fake. They still love it, they still watch it. 2001 01:34:20.319 --> 01:34:22.600 I was just saying this about our nephew. I was 2002 01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:26.079 telling him he was playing hide and seek with our 2003 01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:29.600 kiddo and another kiddo, and I told him that the 2004 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:32.359 kids weren't in places he was looking. I didn't. I 2005 01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:34.239 wasn't riding out where the kids were hiding. I didn't 2006 01:34:34.239 --> 01:34:36.119 actually know where the kids were hiding. But he was 2007 01:34:36.119 --> 01:34:39.119 looking in places that I knew that they weren't. And 2008 01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:40.760 I was like, don't waste your time. They went that 2009 01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:42.800 way and that's all I said, And that way there 2010 01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:44.880 was a lot of shit to look for, Like I 2011 01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:48.439 wasn't given shit away. But he was like, hmm, I 2012 01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.079 don't believe you, and he still looked in those places, 2013 01:34:51.079 --> 01:34:53.960 and I said, you know what, good for you don't 2014 01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.399 trust people. I'm glad that you did. That. I was 2015 01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:59.000 so proud of him, but also I was like, you 2016 01:34:59.319 --> 01:35:01.000 wasted your time, and he's like, fuck. 2017 01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:04.079 Yeah, that's my kids for Easter for sure. I'm always like, 2018 01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:06.920 it's not over there. They're like, you're trying to throw 2019 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:08.520 me off the track. I already know what you're doing, right, 2020 01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:11.600 You're raising though. 2021 01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:13.800 That's a good quality to just at least question it 2022 01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:15.600 and then find out for yourself. 2023 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:18.600 That's great, and that'd be funny to be on the inside, 2024 01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:23.439 like conversation of like two six year olds and they're like, bro, 2025 01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:26.279 I know it sounds crazy, but my parents keep telling 2026 01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.279 me there's this fat dude that lives on the North 2027 01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:33.039 Pole that keeps like weirdly delivering presents to kids every 2028 01:35:33.079 --> 01:35:36.119 year that are good. Like, I think they're full of shit, 2029 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:40.359 and the kids like misinformation. I'm fact checking you, and 2030 01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:43.680 you're now censored from Twitter because you don't believe in 2031 01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:48.439 Santa Okay. And then they grow up and they're like, 2032 01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:50.439 oh my god, I've been lied to my whole life. 2033 01:35:51.359 --> 01:35:52.960 This is the story of all of us. 2034 01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:54.520 Here we have. 2035 01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:58.159 We grow up and we're like, oh fuck, we've been 2036 01:35:58.199 --> 01:35:59.399 lied to this whole time. 2037 01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:01.720 You know what I was thinking, though, as far as 2038 01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:05.319 you know, could these drones be some kind of contractor 2039 01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:07.399 you know, it's not us, it's not them, it would 2040 01:36:07.399 --> 01:36:09.640 be some kind of contractor. And you know, I know 2041 01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:11.800 that that sounds kind of that might sound kind of 2042 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:14.319 crazy to just the average Joe out there, but I 2043 01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:18.159 think that that our country, in almost every other country 2044 01:36:18.359 --> 01:36:23.039 has contracted terrorists one way or another. You know, look 2045 01:36:23.039 --> 01:36:26.439 at looking exactly. You know, Tim Osman was our boy, 2046 01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:27.479 right b. 2047 01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:31.279 Both of his sons are right now. 2048 01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:34.399 Right, So you got you had Osama bin Laden, you 2049 01:36:34.479 --> 01:36:40.479 had Isis, you got fucking net and Yahoo using hamas 2050 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:42.439 or he was using hamas there for a little while. 2051 01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:45.279 He actually helped orchestrate and put them into a group. 2052 01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:47.399 And now he's wondering, why are they going up against us? 2053 01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:50.000 It's like I think that you know, there there have 2054 01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:52.920 always been some kind of terrorist group that people have 2055 01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:56.399 used as some kind of pond to help further whatever 2056 01:36:56.439 --> 01:36:57.920 their their agendas are. 2057 01:36:58.000 --> 01:36:58.560 In the future. 2058 01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:04.119 You use a bunch of highly impressionable people who are 2059 01:37:04.119 --> 01:37:07.640 going to believe in one cause. It's like gathering an 2060 01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:10.600 army really fast without really having to say very much. 2061 01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:12.479 You have a whole group that you can say one 2062 01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:15.199 thing to Really, you don't have to convince an individual. 2063 01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:17.920 You just have to convince one person and they'll convince 2064 01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:19.720 everyone else for you. Less work. 2065 01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:21.079 Well, all you have to do is go to Walmart, 2066 01:37:21.119 --> 01:37:22.760 find all the blue hairs and be like you want 2067 01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:24.880 to get behind this and they're like, fuck, yeah, for free, 2068 01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:25.439 I'll do that. 2069 01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:28.399 But it depends on to what level and scope, right, 2070 01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:31.039 because I mean freedom fighter to you. 2071 01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:32.319 Might be terrorists to them. 2072 01:37:32.439 --> 01:37:35.159 It depends on which side of which asle you're on, 2073 01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:40.199 really and truly and which are six exactly Oh well, like, 2074 01:37:40.279 --> 01:37:43.479 for instance, the Taliban to some people are the only 2075 01:37:43.640 --> 01:37:46.039 arm of the law that the local people recognize. 2076 01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:48.479 Meanwhile, certain people that you. 2077 01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:50.560 In are trying to get them to come to the 2078 01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:54.960 table and recognize them as a real group, an official group. 2079 01:37:55.680 --> 01:37:58.640 Other countries see them as a complete terrorist organization. It's 2080 01:37:58.760 --> 01:37:59.439 very interesting. 2081 01:37:59.479 --> 01:38:02.600 It really depends on which way the money falls. As 2082 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:04.000 interesting as that comes to be. 2083 01:38:04.199 --> 01:38:06.079 Well, and where I was trying to go at that 2084 01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:08.640 point is that is it is it crazy to think 2085 01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:13.279 that these contractors that are orchestrating these these drone sightings, 2086 01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:16.880 could it could they have possibly like some way of 2087 01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:19.720 using it to their own advantage, Like, I think that 2088 01:38:19.800 --> 01:38:24.680 we're not very far away from drone governance personally, Like, 2089 01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:27.680 think about it, if you got constantly eyes on you 2090 01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:31.239 in the sky at all times, and these fucking drones, dude, 2091 01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:33.560 I think that they can absolutely see through walls, like 2092 01:38:33.760 --> 01:38:36.880 your fucking your your shark vacuum can see through walls 2093 01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:37.199 kind of. 2094 01:38:37.199 --> 01:38:40.479 Shit, right, Like I think that everybody carries a spy 2095 01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:43.560 device in their pocket in their face at all times. 2096 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:46.880 Do you really think the NSA isn't tapping those cameras 2097 01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:49.520 if they want to. I'm not saying everything is tracked 2098 01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:51.359 all the time, Like when I pull out my phone 2099 01:38:51.399 --> 01:38:53.880 to text her I'm taking a shit. I don't think 2100 01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:55.319 the NSA gives a fuck about that. 2101 01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:56.840 No, but the algorithms do. 2102 01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:59.760 It's available, right, It's available. 2103 01:38:59.479 --> 01:39:02.039 To be app So you think it's funny. All these 2104 01:39:02.119 --> 01:39:04.720 drone sightings started right after that dude was found that 2105 01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:07.560 shot the CEO. They're like, oh, fuck, Like, how did 2106 01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:10.520 they find that guy all the way in Pennsylvania? No, 2107 01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:12.840 I probably did, but like they're just releasing it around 2108 01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:15.319 the same time, Like, because how did they find him? 2109 01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:18.399 Someone just recognized him in MC was like that's the 2110 01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:26.039 guy right China. Surveillance technology already in place in this country, 2111 01:39:26.039 --> 01:39:27.520 and they don't want to tell us if you ever. 2112 01:39:27.399 --> 01:39:30.720 Smelled something that smelled more strongly of fed sigh up 2113 01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:31.680 than this thing. 2114 01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:34.439 That's oh my god, guy. 2115 01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:37.640 Nothing of that makes sense to me, not even a 2116 01:39:37.680 --> 01:39:39.119 little bit. And then people are like trying to do 2117 01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:40.119 facial recognition. 2118 01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:42.439 But he hot. It's so hot. 2119 01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:47.359 As much of him though, you look a lot like him. 2120 01:39:47.039 --> 01:39:53.880 I like the big eyebrows. But then like fucking five 2121 01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:57.840 days prior, he had like super trimmed up and shaped 2122 01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:01.880 up eyebrows. They line him five days later and they're 2123 01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:05.319 fucking caterpillars. Do they don't go that ungroomed that quick. 2124 01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:07.920 I don't care what kind of lineage you got. The 2125 01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:10.159 grossest part is that I heard it. 2126 01:40:10.239 --> 01:40:12.520 I think it was on OBDM too, but a bunch 2127 01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:15.279 of different shows I was listening to today that I 2128 01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:18.680 don't care even though that's that was the CEO of 2129 01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:22.359 my insurance agency. Actually, but fuck that guy. 2130 01:40:22.439 --> 01:40:24.039 Did you see what he's done? 2131 01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:27.600 He has been, like, if not directly, indirectly, responsible for 2132 01:40:27.640 --> 01:40:28.880 like forty thousand deaths. 2133 01:40:29.920 --> 01:40:32.439 Oh no, no, I'm not saying don't fuck that guy. 2134 01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:35.600 Fuck that guy to sell the comments like it's so 2135 01:40:35.800 --> 01:40:38.000 funny and also so dark. 2136 01:40:37.479 --> 01:40:43.000 They the internet, the Internet on this situation, bro. 2137 01:40:43.359 --> 01:40:48.239 No, not about the killer, about the CEO. Yeahs and 2138 01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:51.239 wishes be denied and delayed, like it was just so funny. 2139 01:40:51.319 --> 01:40:54.119 Like the things that people said were the Internet went 2140 01:40:54.239 --> 01:40:56.800 crazy but real. I mean they've felt it. You can 2141 01:40:56.840 --> 01:40:59.920 tell that it comes from a place of sadness. And 2142 01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:04.039 they said the killer had a longtime back issue. I 2143 01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:04.960 don't know if that I heard the. 2144 01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.680 Killer has an eight pack and he's super hot. That's 2145 01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:11.159 what the thirsty ass fucking internet weirdos are doing, right. 2146 01:41:11.600 --> 01:41:13.840 He had injuries and had to deal with insurance and 2147 01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:16.920 surgeries and was pissed. But I don't even. 2148 01:41:16.880 --> 01:41:17.840 He was also. 2149 01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:23.119 Like no, no, no, no, no bullshit. 2150 01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:25.960 He was had all these injuries. He couldn't do ship. 2151 01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:29.119 Your boy looked like he walked out of an Abercrombie 2152 01:41:29.159 --> 01:41:30.359 and Fitch magazine. 2153 01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:34.319 What kind of formitted him from hitting the fucking gym? 2154 01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:36.399 You know? Like whatever? First off? 2155 01:41:36.479 --> 01:41:42.079 Second off, this guy was valedictorian of his Ivy League 2156 01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:45.680 school in this whole night, and then out of nowhere, 2157 01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:49.760 that guy who's that smart activated right with. 2158 01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:53.279 His manifesto on him with the weapons. 2159 01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:57.159 Somebody said the code word to They were like, my god, 2160 01:41:57.479 --> 01:41:59.880 that Italian family at the other table in the restaurant 2161 01:41:59.920 --> 01:42:01.199 is super quiet, and he's like. 2162 01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:07.319 Fill yeah, kill a full on American ultra style dude. 2163 01:42:08.359 --> 01:42:11.359 That much more since than the story the mainstream media 2164 01:42:11.399 --> 01:42:12.279 is fucking selling. 2165 01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:16.119 I'm sorry, No, for sure makes full on Jason Bourne 2166 01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:19.640 Manchurian candidate type ship, where like he was just a 2167 01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:22.520 normal dude. He's probably voted for Trump And they were like, 2168 01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:24.079 but that's so. 2169 01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:26.560 My point was, I think that it's to spin the 2170 01:42:26.640 --> 01:42:31.560 narrative to allow these drones to be going around. I 2171 01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:34.119 guess to connect it to that is how did they 2172 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:36.000 find this guy? Because what they were doing is they 2173 01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:40.079 were trying to find surveillance footage from cameras to trace 2174 01:42:40.079 --> 01:42:42.880 where he came from and then to find where he 2175 01:42:42.960 --> 01:42:46.880 went and then and maybe the drones were out and 2176 01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:47.840 about before that. 2177 01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:50.319 I'm not sure they've been out in about a long time. 2178 01:42:50.920 --> 01:42:53.840 I'm sure they have. I think that's going to be 2179 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:55.680 a thing that just happens all the time, like we'll 2180 01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.680 just see them occasionally. I mean, we have Google mapping 2181 01:42:58.720 --> 01:42:59.960 our streets every now. 2182 01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:02.760 And then that's the weirdest shit is that a lot 2183 01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:05.560 of the reports I've heard is that the area these 2184 01:43:05.640 --> 01:43:08.520 drones are seen and are in very high traffic air 2185 01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:14.359 like like plane like proximity like Newark and you know 2186 01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:18.560 all these things. Yeah, why are people noticing that? Now? 2187 01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:21.319 If it was just planes, like I would, I would 2188 01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:24.119 imagine like ninety percent of them are probably just regular 2189 01:43:24.279 --> 01:43:27.039 helicopters or planes or whatever. That does leave a ten 2190 01:43:27.079 --> 01:43:29.800 percent in my mind of things that aren't just that. 2191 01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:33.239 Why are people just noticing it now? Why are they 2192 01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:34.439 looking up? Now? 2193 01:43:34.520 --> 01:43:37.119 People are saying though that they're like hovering over golf courses, 2194 01:43:37.159 --> 01:43:38.319 Like that's not a normal thing. 2195 01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:40.760 It's not like two weeks ago they were saying there 2196 01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:44.560 was there was some hovering over mar Alago, like Trump's property, 2197 01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:45.600 Like what. 2198 01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:49.199 Could it be that like fifteen years ago nobody thought 2199 01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:50.560 to look up about drones? 2200 01:43:51.359 --> 01:43:51.680 Right now? 2201 01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:55.560 More of them now, everybody's like this all day, dude. 2202 01:43:56.439 --> 01:43:58.760 I personally believe that all of this kind of shit 2203 01:43:58.960 --> 01:44:01.920 is just really coming to a head rate before Trump 2204 01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:03.880 is about to take office, because I think the old 2205 01:44:03.920 --> 01:44:07.199 guard is finally going away, at least temporarily, or at 2206 01:44:07.279 --> 01:44:11.479 least that's what's supposed to happen. I personally believe that. 2207 01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:15.399 I personally believe that, like Trump, yeah, I don't think 2208 01:44:15.399 --> 01:44:17.000 he's going to make it to the White House. I 2209 01:44:17.039 --> 01:44:19.359 think that something is going to prevent that from happening. 2210 01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:23.239 I'm not gonna say assassination, but I might I lean 2211 01:44:23.359 --> 01:44:24.600 towards there's going to be. 2212 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:25.800 Some kind of martial law. 2213 01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:27.760 Maybe there's going to be some kind of war that 2214 01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:30.479 we get extra involved in and not just proxy style, 2215 01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:33.640 maybe we get bombed or something like that. I firmly 2216 01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:37.520 believe that there's been way too many like weird, chaotic 2217 01:44:37.600 --> 01:44:41.000 things that have happened just in this past year, and 2218 01:44:41.039 --> 01:44:43.880 I think that, you know, maybe maybe it's just a 2219 01:44:43.920 --> 01:44:47.159 sign of like this shit is. I don't know, it's 2220 01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:49.359 just getting weirder. I don't know what the trust anymore. 2221 01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:51.680 That's just engineering at all, because they're in the White 2222 01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:54.800 House now and they're like, hey, did you engineer COVID 2223 01:44:54.840 --> 01:44:57.960 for us? Because that fucked up the like four years 2224 01:44:57.960 --> 01:45:00.479 for us, so we're gonna fuck you with some alien 2225 01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:02.920 full shit. I also maybe they just played. 2226 01:45:02.640 --> 01:45:05.600 Fucking such a multi vector thing though, because it's not 2227 01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:08.079 just all this ship. If you go back to just 2228 01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:13.760 general country ship, and there's the economy. They're tanking the economy. 2229 01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:16.960 I wouldn't say that it started just now. It started 2230 01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:20.039 a long fucking time ago. But it's coming, like you said, 2231 01:45:20.039 --> 01:45:22.600 it's coming to a head. Now, we're right before Trump 2232 01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:27.840 gets in, Like we're we're verging on uh an economic collapse. 2233 01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:30.319 Well, I think that obviously. 2234 01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:30.880 I think. 2235 01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:34.960 Well, I think it's the it's the lame duck stuff 2236 01:45:34.960 --> 01:45:36.880 that's really going on right here. We just talked about 2237 01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:41.279 earlier on an earlier episode about how the the FBI director, 2238 01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:43.479 his name is Christopher Ray. He said that he's going 2239 01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:45.720 to be stepping down as soon as Trump takes office 2240 01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:48.359 because that's whenever what's his name, Cash Betel is going 2241 01:45:48.399 --> 01:45:49.039 to be taken over. 2242 01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:51.359 But it's like that was the same as. 2243 01:45:51.319 --> 01:45:54.640 The Patriot Front. I saw something about that earlier. Yeah, 2244 01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:57.119 the Patriot Yeah. 2245 01:45:56.640 --> 01:45:58.960 I'm kind of excited to see what old Cash Betel 2246 01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:02.000 is gonna do. I have hopes that's all say. He 2247 01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:04.399 looks like somebody that doesn't fuck around. I don't know, 2248 01:46:04.520 --> 01:46:05.640 thank y'all come again. 2249 01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:09.319 But I but I think that there's there's like these 2250 01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:11.600 people they know that they're in their final months and 2251 01:46:11.640 --> 01:46:14.279 so they're gonna be doing a bunch of weird, lame 2252 01:46:14.399 --> 01:46:17.800 duck shit. I mean, look, a fucking dude, Joe just 2253 01:46:17.880 --> 01:46:21.119 pardoned Hunter Biden after he repeatedly in his in his 2254 01:46:21.199 --> 01:46:23.479 Speaker of the House or not Speaker of the House, 2255 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:26.399 but whoever the fuck is speaking for him. They they 2256 01:46:26.439 --> 01:46:28.840 all said that like, oh, yeah, he's not gonna get 2257 01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:30.760 pardoned or anything, and then they just do it. And 2258 01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:34.039 so my in my opinion, I know, like, well, I 2259 01:46:34.079 --> 01:46:36.800 feel like I know that they're they're they're gonna be 2260 01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:40.840 pulling out everything they possibly can because maybe it's their 2261 01:46:40.920 --> 01:46:43.359 last opportunity to do so, and if that includes some 2262 01:46:43.439 --> 01:46:46.119 kind of fucking alien invasion or some kind of drone 2263 01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:49.960 strike from some adversary company, uh country rather. 2264 01:46:50.920 --> 01:46:53.479 I mean, but would you really put it past him? 2265 01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:54.359 I I wouldn't. 2266 01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:57.640 No, I don't put anything past anybody, especially in the 2267 01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:01.760 White House at this point. But I love them sorry 2268 01:47:01.800 --> 01:47:07.479 about that. I love the Biden saying he's gonna, you know, 2269 01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:12.479 preemptively pardon Fauci and all these other people. First of all, 2270 01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:15.199 that mfers crimes were committed or are going to be 2271 01:47:15.199 --> 01:47:21.560 committed if you're preemptively pardoning them, second, I heard an 2272 01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:26.920 interesting little thing today about how a presidential pardon doesn't 2273 01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:31.960 mean they won't sing like a fucking bird, because if 2274 01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:36.159 you're presidential pardoning somebody, it just means that they won't 2275 01:47:36.159 --> 01:47:39.600 serve jail time or they can't be sentenced to whatever. 2276 01:47:39.640 --> 01:47:41.239 I don't know how much truth there is to this, 2277 01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:46.119 but it's very interesting if like Hunter being pardoned all 2278 01:47:46.119 --> 01:47:49.199 the way back to twenty fourteen, pre Barisma and all 2279 01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:55.560 that shit does reap right, doesn't mean that he's not 2280 01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:59.199 gonna sing like a bird, because I guess one of 2281 01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:02.039 the stipulations under pardoning like that, which I don't know. 2282 01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:05.199 I've never been presidentially pardoned, so I wouldn't know, but 2283 01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:08.000 that it just means you're not going to do jail time. 2284 01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:10.840 Doesn't mean you won't get charged or won't get fucking 2285 01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:14.279 questioned like crazy. It just means like it's almost one 2286 01:48:14.319 --> 01:48:16.399 of it's like a plea deal, where like your pardon, 2287 01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:20.439 but you better be squawking tell me about Epstein's list 2288 01:48:20.479 --> 01:48:23.840 and Diddy's list and Parisma and all all these other things. 2289 01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:26.960 So it actually might come back to kick Joe Biden 2290 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:30.159 in the dick if he pardons all these bitches. Unless 2291 01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:33.319 they want to serve a lifetime in jail, they're gonna 2292 01:48:33.319 --> 01:48:33.880 be squawking. 2293 01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:38.319 I've actually I get it, but I've actually heard that 2294 01:48:38.399 --> 01:48:41.600 I have some hope with him pardoning his son. And 2295 01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:44.319 if Joe was involved in a lot of the crimes 2296 01:48:44.319 --> 01:48:47.720 that Hunter was doing, that he's kind of pardoning himself 2297 01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:50.159 along with it because they're throwing out all the cases 2298 01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:51.960 that are connected to Hunter at that point. 2299 01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:57.520 Basically he can't be called in for criminal charges if 2300 01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:01.359 it was anything pertaining to Dot dot from twenty fourteen 2301 01:49:01.439 --> 01:49:01.960 to now. 2302 01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:06.319 So, but it doesn't pardon everybody else connected to that. 2303 01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:07.960 I think no. 2304 01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:11.399 But like, for instance, Joe, all he did was get 2305 01:49:11.399 --> 01:49:13.720 a cut off the top ten percent went to the 2306 01:49:13.720 --> 01:49:14.880 big man, and that's it. 2307 01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:17.560 So it's not like Joe's gonna go. 2308 01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:23.079 Though, did you Yeah, if Biden goes to jail, I 2309 01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:25.319 just want this information to come out. If that comes out, 2310 01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:27.840 that'd be that be that would make my titties hard. 2311 01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:30.199 I don't want I was usually as an example though, 2312 01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:32.279 Like so for instance, not like Biden's gonna go to 2313 01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:35.279 jail for making money off of Hunter's shit. He only 2314 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:38.119 accepted money from So like pardoning Hunter did kind of 2315 01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:38.760 pardon him. 2316 01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:40.840 Because the money was ill gotten. 2317 01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:43.720 Gains and the gonna die anyway, right. 2318 01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:46.079 But that's like an example, So like how many people 2319 01:49:46.159 --> 01:49:49.560 are connected to Hunter on the periphery of crimes to 2320 01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:55.319 varying degrees that maybe pardoned third party on some shit 2321 01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:57.279 like that. You see what I'm saying. I don't know 2322 01:49:57.319 --> 01:49:59.960 how deep that goes. I know it's very case by Kate. 2323 01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:03.119 I know that a lot of people breathe the sigh 2324 01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:06.239 of relief because what that does mean is that his 2325 01:50:06.399 --> 01:50:11.159 laptop is now. Whatever was on that laptop that involved 2326 01:50:11.279 --> 01:50:15.039 him is now can't be brought up in court. So 2327 01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:17.399 if there was him and someone else in this video, 2328 01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:22.680 arguably that video can't be brought up in court. The 2329 01:50:22.720 --> 01:50:25.159 other side of it is it totally can. But Hunter 2330 01:50:25.239 --> 01:50:27.840 can never be prosecuted for anything in the video. 2331 01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:30.960 So, like I that's an insane thing. I hate that 2332 01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:36.840 about our judice judicial system so much. It's in fuckingsane. 2333 01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:39.680 They're like, oh, because you said a few wordy words, 2334 01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:44.199 now reality can't be spoken. What what the fuck is that? 2335 01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:46.560 I'm sorry, I'm doing your ranting for you. I don't 2336 01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:51.560 agree that, but it's fucking co crazy. Why why can't 2337 01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:54.680 you just be like, hey, this is still real. 2338 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:58.880 Everybody get fuck no when they say justice is blind 2339 01:50:59.279 --> 01:51:02.720 or like nobody he's above the law. Like there's montages 2340 01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:05.520 like you were talking about earlier, about Biden over and 2341 01:51:05.560 --> 01:51:08.880 over saying I will not pardon Hunter, like nobody's above 2342 01:51:08.920 --> 01:51:13.079 the law. There's a six minute clip of like CBS 2343 01:51:13.079 --> 01:51:16.159 and everybody else like showing footage of him being like 2344 01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:19.000 nobody's above the law. Hunter will not be pardoned. And 2345 01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:23.079 then he fucking pardons him, and everyone's like, well okay. 2346 01:51:23.640 --> 01:51:26.359 And he's still dead. Well you know, and they're. 2347 01:51:26.119 --> 01:51:29.880 All making I set off fireworks on fourth of July. 2348 01:51:30.239 --> 01:51:33.359 Pardon me, bitch. That was a five hundred dollars ticket. 2349 01:51:33.479 --> 01:51:37.680 For some sparklers and bottle rockets too. California is real serious. 2350 01:51:37.399 --> 01:51:41.159 About shack off and deprivation. Take smoking crack. 2351 01:51:41.319 --> 01:51:41.800 No, it was. 2352 01:51:43.319 --> 01:51:47.319 California. Wildfires are real. Ship yeah, they take fireworks. Seriously. 2353 01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:49.000 What did I start fire? 2354 01:51:50.039 --> 01:51:50.079 No? 2355 01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:51.600 I didn't start fire. 2356 01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:54.239 Starting fire. 2357 01:51:54.359 --> 01:51:56.399 Prosecute me, but I didn't start. 2358 01:51:57.199 --> 01:51:59.760 Blow ship up with us. We'll make sparkle bomb. 2359 01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:03.319 I will all make my own shit. Fuck yeah, not 2360 01:52:03.399 --> 01:52:04.199 that I know how to. 2361 01:52:05.079 --> 01:52:07.640 If you don't know how they'll teach you. But you know, hey, 2362 01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:09.479 if you just need some materials, like I got it. 2363 01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:12.920 I got a closet. You know, we got fertilizer. 2364 01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:18.079 Oh leave, Sorry, Well, Joe, you had you had asked 2365 01:52:18.119 --> 01:52:20.720 something to Jacob earlier before you went to go take 2366 01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:25.119 a leak. It was referring to aliens or drones or 2367 01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:26.920 something like that, and you said you wanted to ask 2368 01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:32.239 his his religious perspective is. I want to just go 2369 01:52:32.319 --> 01:52:35.319 back to that real quick, because I find the alien 2370 01:52:35.359 --> 01:52:38.680 and the UFO talk within religion to be pretty interesting. 2371 01:52:38.720 --> 01:52:42.159 I don't know if it necessarily, you know, just cancels 2372 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:44.560 each other out or whatever. But Jacob has spoken on 2373 01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:45.119 this before. 2374 01:52:45.960 --> 01:52:49.359 I don't think it does. But like the shotgun question 2375 01:52:49.640 --> 01:52:53.199 of what are aliens in your Christian worldview, that's like 2376 01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:55.520 five hours worth of shit we could talk about, so 2377 01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:57.239 netshell it uh. 2378 01:52:57.520 --> 01:52:58.279 In a nutshell. 2379 01:52:58.399 --> 01:53:01.399 I believe that angels and dus are very real, and 2380 01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:05.319 I also believe that extraterrestrial life is also equally real. 2381 01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:09.520 I think that it is very narcissistic of humanity to 2382 01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:12.239 think that we are the only things walking and talking 2383 01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:13.399 in all of existence. 2384 01:53:13.479 --> 01:53:16.680 I think that's ridiculous, even though the Bible doesn't talk 2385 01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:17.560 about them at all. 2386 01:53:18.479 --> 01:53:21.680 What difference? What difference does that make? What difference does 2387 01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:22.119 that make? 2388 01:53:22.399 --> 01:53:25.159 The Bible is written for people on earth, for the 2389 01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:25.920 people on Earth. 2390 01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:28.079 It wasn't written for the people to galaxies over. 2391 01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:32.000 Now that being said, is it possible that there is 2392 01:53:32.039 --> 01:53:33.760 no other life out there and we are it? 2393 01:53:33.960 --> 01:53:35.119 I believe that's very possible. 2394 01:53:35.720 --> 01:53:39.000 I believe that it's equally possible and more probable that 2395 01:53:39.039 --> 01:53:41.560 there is more life out there that all has to 2396 01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:44.239 be a part of God's plan. Is it possible there's 2397 01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:47.079 planets out there that are still absolutely never fell from 2398 01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:48.840 grace and are in their garden of Eden? 2399 01:53:48.880 --> 01:53:51.880 Thing? Yes? Why does God need to make more plants 2400 01:53:51.920 --> 01:53:53.840 with more life? Yo? I'm not God. I don't know 2401 01:53:53.880 --> 01:53:56.039 his plan. I don't pretend to know his plan. 2402 01:53:56.600 --> 01:53:58.800 I just believe that all these things are way more 2403 01:53:58.840 --> 01:54:01.720 in the realm of possibility. Then to think that we 2404 01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:04.720 are somehow alone and that this is some sort of 2405 01:54:04.720 --> 01:54:08.000 a version of honey, quit playing with your universe and 2406 01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:10.800 come to dinner. Like, I think that that just kind 2407 01:54:10.800 --> 01:54:13.039 of doesn't make as much sense to me personally. 2408 01:54:13.119 --> 01:54:15.840 So you have the most, really quick I think you 2409 01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:20.239 have the most interesting Christian perspective in the world that 2410 01:54:20.319 --> 01:54:23.279 I have ever heard in my life, and I absolutely 2411 01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:26.000 love it. 2412 01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:26.920 It's fucking crazy. 2413 01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:30.079 They're going to you for everything, and I don't give 2414 01:54:30.079 --> 01:54:31.199 a ship, especially YouTube. 2415 01:54:31.479 --> 01:54:34.159 I think it's fucking fantastic. I think that is the 2416 01:54:34.199 --> 01:54:38.319 most the most open minded Christian perspective that I have 2417 01:54:38.840 --> 01:54:40.600 ever fucking heard him the. 2418 01:54:42.159 --> 01:54:44.479 Reason I wanted to that's fucking great. 2419 01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:45.960 Jacob is never going cold. 2420 01:54:46.119 --> 01:54:47.680 Love to think our Earth is a globe and that 2421 01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:50.960 space is real because I want to fly a spaceship someday, 2422 01:54:51.399 --> 01:54:51.800 just once. 2423 01:54:52.119 --> 01:54:54.359 Just I believe that we may be able to in 2424 01:54:54.399 --> 01:54:57.079 the next hundred years. I don't know that for a fact. 2425 01:54:57.560 --> 01:54:59.239 Well, I'm going to live to be five hundred. I 2426 01:54:59.279 --> 01:55:01.479 also say that that's like a fucking that. I say 2427 01:55:01.520 --> 01:55:03.720 that's like a trope on our show, But I think 2428 01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:06.439 if you believe it, Hey, if a dude can throw 2429 01:55:06.479 --> 01:55:09.600 a mountain into the sea, mark eleven twenty bitches, that shit. 2430 01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:11.840 I'm not trying to live past fifty you while for that, 2431 01:55:11.960 --> 01:55:12.560 But all right. 2432 01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:15.159 That's what Joe says. I'm like, what I would live 2433 01:55:15.439 --> 01:55:17.359 to be like five hundred. I wish someone would turn 2434 01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:19.359 me into a vampire. So I could just see what 2435 01:55:19.399 --> 01:55:21.640 two thousand years looks like on this earth. I want 2436 01:55:21.680 --> 01:55:22.760 to see it change. 2437 01:55:22.840 --> 01:55:25.000 I don't think humans are meant to do that. Man. 2438 01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:26.920 It's the same, all right, kind of the same concept 2439 01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:29.039 as these these dudes that spend six months on a 2440 01:55:29.079 --> 01:55:32.399 nuclear sub and they go six months without sunlight. They 2441 01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:35.600 go like super depressed and they have like real hormonal 2442 01:55:35.640 --> 01:55:38.199 and chemical issues because, like, humans are not built to 2443 01:55:38.279 --> 01:55:41.279 go six months without sunlight. I don't think humans are 2444 01:55:41.279 --> 01:55:44.079 built to go beyond like one hundred and thirty years. 2445 01:55:44.079 --> 01:55:47.039 I'll be straight up with you. I think so. 2446 01:55:47.079 --> 01:55:50.119 I think so, all right, I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate 2447 01:55:50.199 --> 01:55:53.119 with you. I do think that our brain does tell 2448 01:55:53.199 --> 01:55:55.520 us that I agree with you. I had a friend 2449 01:55:55.560 --> 01:55:58.319 who lived here where we live, in northern California, where 2450 01:55:58.359 --> 01:56:01.560 it's sunny all the time. Yeah, she moved to the coast, 2451 01:56:02.079 --> 01:56:06.000 beautiful place, but it's overcast. It's like Oregon or Washington. 2452 01:56:06.079 --> 01:56:09.119 It's oranges all the time. She wasn't used to it, 2453 01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:12.720 and she was the happiest person I'd ever met. And 2454 01:56:12.840 --> 01:56:15.159 she had to go to a therapist after six months 2455 01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:17.359 because she was like, I'm so, I'm so sad and 2456 01:56:17.399 --> 01:56:19.800 angry all the time, and I don't understand, But that's 2457 01:56:19.840 --> 01:56:24.039 the brain. If you can already go into it with knowing, 2458 01:56:25.079 --> 01:56:28.720 knowing God, knowing yourself, and you can, you know, I 2459 01:56:28.720 --> 01:56:31.199 don't know, gear yourself up for that. I think you 2460 01:56:31.239 --> 01:56:35.520 can handle it because you can just go inward, I guess, 2461 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:38.520 and figure it out. You can find the beauty in 2462 01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:42.039 your situation even though you have no sunlight. You can 2463 01:56:42.199 --> 01:56:44.920 override your brain with your soul for sure. 2464 01:56:45.079 --> 01:56:46.560 And I mean, I'm just saying, I'm throwing that as 2465 01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:47.239 an example. 2466 01:56:47.840 --> 01:56:50.880 I think that like human like, the human heart is 2467 01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:53.039 a muscle and it's only good for so many beats, 2468 01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:54.920 you know what I mean. I think the brain is 2469 01:56:54.920 --> 01:56:56.680 only good for so many fiery. 2470 01:56:56.399 --> 01:56:57.079 Brain tells you. 2471 01:56:57.520 --> 01:56:59.439 That's what I'm saying. It's all hypothetical. 2472 01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:02.119 If if you find a way to live to five hundred, 2473 01:57:02.319 --> 01:57:04.560 I wish you the best of luck. And I hope 2474 01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:08.119 I'm wrong and it's everything you hope it is. My God, 2475 01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:09.439 that sounds scary as. 2476 01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:09.800 Hell to me. 2477 01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:11.840 But if you could live to five hundred as a 2478 01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:14.560 thirty five year old person, your whole life, oh you know, 2479 01:57:14.680 --> 01:57:15.800 that's that's a little different. 2480 01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:19.800 Yeah, yeah, if I could stand in a different conversations, Yo, 2481 01:57:20.039 --> 01:57:20.479 what's up? 2482 01:57:20.920 --> 01:57:22.960 Yeah, I mean I tell her that all the time. 2483 01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:24.640 I'm like, I don't want to live to five hundred. 2484 01:57:24.640 --> 01:57:25.880 Have you seen seventy five? 2485 01:57:26.760 --> 01:57:26.960 Yeah? 2486 01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:28.399 I don't want to do that for another. 2487 01:57:28.199 --> 01:57:30.920 Forty I'm pretty old and I look a lot younger 2488 01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:31.880 than I really am. 2489 01:57:32.079 --> 01:57:34.399 So I am keep riding that train. 2490 01:57:35.279 --> 01:57:38.239 Yeah, I'm just going to smoke and drink my way there. 2491 01:57:38.399 --> 01:57:40.279 It's awesome so far. No. 2492 01:57:40.399 --> 01:57:42.680 So what I was getting at though, from your Christian 2493 01:57:42.840 --> 01:57:46.960 perspective is uh, and your globe tard as you put 2494 01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:53.439 it perspectives, So does every other planet and or you know, 2495 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:57.399 civilization whatever have a different Bible and or code of 2496 01:57:57.399 --> 01:58:04.520 ethics and save you'r and all that stuff. It just 2497 01:58:04.520 --> 01:58:07.840 seems weird to me that the Bible would not mention 2498 01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:10.279 that if it was a big deal. So that makes 2499 01:58:10.279 --> 01:58:12.800 me think it's not a big deal. Again, from a 2500 01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:16.840 Christian perspective, that it's not a big deal, and that 2501 01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:20.840 either will never figure that out or never meet with 2502 01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:25.359 these other creatures, or they don't exist, or they're in 2503 01:58:25.399 --> 01:58:26.199 a different dimension. 2504 01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:28.520 Just so many questions, and I'm just asking. 2505 01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:29.880 A lot of questions I'm putting an. 2506 01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:32.319 And no, no, no, let's answer all of it at once. 2507 01:58:32.399 --> 01:58:36.840 So different dimension. I think that's what it is, because 2508 01:58:37.319 --> 01:58:40.600 I think heaven and or hell and or I'm just kidding. 2509 01:58:40.680 --> 01:58:43.680 I think that's all. That's not a physical thing, like 2510 01:58:43.760 --> 01:58:46.960 if you die and go to heaven, it's not up 2511 01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:51.960 there over there. It's a different phase. You're you're phasing out. 2512 01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:54.000 Your energy is leaving your body and going to a 2513 01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:54.560 different place. 2514 01:58:54.680 --> 01:58:56.439 I think it's coming going back to the. 2515 01:58:56.439 --> 01:59:02.079 Place as correlates with reincarnation. But yeah, this could be 2516 01:59:02.159 --> 01:59:03.279 a fucking six hour show. 2517 01:59:03.319 --> 01:59:05.520 Go ahead, No, no, no, no, let's go on a couple 2518 01:59:05.600 --> 01:59:07.560 of different directions at once. I like it all right, 2519 01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:13.680 so interdimensional? Could angels and demons be interdimensional beings? 2520 01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:17.159 Absolutely? Could these extraterrestrial? 2521 01:59:18.359 --> 01:59:18.560 Right? 2522 01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:19.079 Right? 2523 01:59:19.880 --> 01:59:23.600 Could these extraterrestrial beings have learned how to cut through 2524 01:59:23.640 --> 01:59:25.199 time and space and they use it as a way 2525 01:59:25.199 --> 01:59:27.920 to like portal jump through long distances. 2526 01:59:27.399 --> 01:59:29.199 Of space for travel purposes. Yo. 2527 01:59:29.439 --> 01:59:32.720 Possibly it doesn't negate them being angels or demons. 2528 01:59:32.840 --> 01:59:34.119 It doesn't, but it also doesn't. 2529 01:59:34.159 --> 01:59:36.560 So God created them and God created us. I think 2530 01:59:36.760 --> 01:59:39.000 they already knew. I think it's just easy for them, 2531 01:59:39.079 --> 01:59:40.399 it's like taking the highway. 2532 01:59:40.880 --> 01:59:43.840 But to hear exactly. But to your point about do 2533 01:59:43.880 --> 01:59:46.039 they have their own salvation? Do they have their own savor? 2534 01:59:46.039 --> 01:59:47.039 Do they have their own Bibles? 2535 01:59:47.479 --> 01:59:48.000 Possibly? 2536 01:59:48.079 --> 01:59:49.600 And as a matter of fact, me and Jonathan have 2537 01:59:49.680 --> 01:59:51.600 talked about this. If an alien was to like land 2538 01:59:51.720 --> 01:59:54.119 at my house right now, what's my first response, Now, 2539 01:59:54.199 --> 01:59:57.359 assuming that I wasn't threatened by godett shoot it immediately, 2540 01:59:57.560 --> 02:00:00.800 right of course. Aside from that, if I was to 2541 02:00:00.880 --> 02:00:03.239 ever like they do the proper steps, all of a 2542 02:00:03.279 --> 02:00:05.960 sudden we have aliens walking about and living on earth, 2543 02:00:06.079 --> 02:00:09.119 very men in black style, but less the skin suits whatever. 2544 02:00:09.800 --> 02:00:12.600 What I would be most interested to talk to these 2545 02:00:12.640 --> 02:00:16.640 beings about is their religious beliefs, or their creation story 2546 02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:17.319 or whatever else. 2547 02:00:17.359 --> 02:00:19.319 But that would be just a talk for when and 2548 02:00:19.399 --> 02:00:20.279 if that time came. 2549 02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:25.039 I don't believe the Bible, of course, of course, of course, 2550 02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:28.119 but I also don't believe that the Bible tells us everything. 2551 02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:30.199 I think that there's no way that it can. 2552 02:00:30.359 --> 02:00:33.880 I believe that the Bible is like the Hebrews got 2553 02:00:34.000 --> 02:00:36.680 manna from Heaven when they were in the wilderness, right, 2554 02:00:36.720 --> 02:00:37.840 it was their portion. 2555 02:00:38.079 --> 02:00:39.880 It was not just, it was not gone. 2556 02:00:40.319 --> 02:00:42.960 It was just enough to survive. I believe that the 2557 02:00:43.000 --> 02:00:46.119 Bible is our portion. It does not answer all of 2558 02:00:46.119 --> 02:00:48.760 the questions, because how can you how do you explain 2559 02:00:48.840 --> 02:00:50.640 to a three year old where babies come from? 2560 02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:51.600 You don't. 2561 02:00:51.680 --> 02:00:53.960 You don't lie to them, You don't tell them the 2562 02:00:54.000 --> 02:00:57.319 crazy shit. You tell them when mommy and daddy really 2563 02:00:57.319 --> 02:00:59.359 love each other, daddy holds mommy really close, and a 2564 02:00:59.359 --> 02:01:00.680 baby grows in mommy's tummy. 2565 02:01:01.039 --> 02:01:02.239 None of that was a lie. 2566 02:01:02.279 --> 02:01:06.119 But you left out all of the details, right owner 2567 02:01:06.960 --> 02:01:07.479 there you go. 2568 02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:09.279 I think that's kind of the Old Testament for us. 2569 02:01:09.560 --> 02:01:12.119 So as far as the Bible in its entirety and 2570 02:01:12.560 --> 02:01:14.880 what it does cover what it doesn't cover, I think 2571 02:01:14.880 --> 02:01:17.560 it covers the keynotes and the important things on how 2572 02:01:17.600 --> 02:01:20.039 to live a good life and a correct life. I 2573 02:01:20.039 --> 02:01:22.800 don't think it tells us like the ins and outs 2574 02:01:22.800 --> 02:01:24.760 of the laws of how physics works and shit. 2575 02:01:24.760 --> 02:01:26.520 So well, that would be wild though, if like a 2576 02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:30.640 different culture, a different civilization from Zeta Reticuli came over 2577 02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:34.520 and they're like, well, our Bible says you're supposed to 2578 02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:38.520 fucking kill everybody who doesn't send their women outside the 2579 02:01:38.520 --> 02:01:41.159 city walls when they menstraight and we're like, oh, we 2580 02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:44.880 have those here too. Go down to Jerusalem. You'll be 2581 02:01:44.920 --> 02:01:45.640 in good company. 2582 02:01:46.680 --> 02:01:47.880 I mean, that would be wild. 2583 02:01:48.039 --> 02:01:50.239 If they came and they got off their ships with 2584 02:01:50.279 --> 02:01:51.720 the Law of Abraham. 2585 02:01:51.399 --> 02:01:52.920 That would be fucking wild to me. 2586 02:01:54.119 --> 02:01:56.239 I would actually be crazy if they came down and 2587 02:01:56.239 --> 02:01:58.760 started spitting scientology shit, and it would be like God, 2588 02:01:58.880 --> 02:02:01.520 damn it, Tom Cruise, like I I don't know right. 2589 02:02:01.600 --> 02:02:03.720 You were right, Like fuck you. I would feel so 2590 02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:06.960 betrayed Tom, Like my people. 2591 02:02:07.359 --> 02:02:10.119 Yo, Tom Cruise would probably cream his jeans right then 2592 02:02:10.159 --> 02:02:12.640 and there and just be like, yes, you're welcome. 2593 02:02:13.920 --> 02:02:14.039 You know. 2594 02:02:14.159 --> 02:02:16.239 He would just be like this, he does that. 2595 02:02:16.159 --> 02:02:18.439 Like three times a day, just because he's fucking weird. 2596 02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:21.359 Yes, indeed, bro, I mean. 2597 02:02:21.399 --> 02:02:25.000 And also, what happens if the Aliens get off of 2598 02:02:25.039 --> 02:02:28.279 their spaceship and they're actually like, you know, like like 2599 02:02:28.920 --> 02:02:31.159 real Christians and stuff like that, and then they come 2600 02:02:31.199 --> 02:02:33.760 and judge everybody who isn't doing what they're supposed to 2601 02:02:33.840 --> 02:02:36.199 be doing. What if they're like the Mormons of all 2602 02:02:36.279 --> 02:02:41.239 Christians who are like you you're saying fuck you're multiple people, You're. 2603 02:02:42.640 --> 02:02:46.119 You're they're like the Puritian witch trial type of Christians, 2604 02:02:46.279 --> 02:02:49.279 like they're coming here to slaughter all of the infidels 2605 02:02:49.279 --> 02:02:49.640 and shit. 2606 02:02:50.359 --> 02:02:53.560 But but but what's wild is is that rightfully so 2607 02:02:53.760 --> 02:02:55.560 maybe they would have the right to be able to 2608 02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:59.239 kill you, because just like Moses going down the fucking 2609 02:02:59.279 --> 02:03:02.239 Mount sign I killing everybody who wasn't following the law 2610 02:03:02.319 --> 02:03:04.319 of everything that you're supposed to be doing. And they 2611 02:03:04.319 --> 02:03:06.920 are rightfully so slaughtering the fuck out of you. 2612 02:03:06.960 --> 02:03:10.159 What if that'ss bro? 2613 02:03:12.560 --> 02:03:17.319 What if we are all what if we are all 2614 02:03:17.359 --> 02:03:22.039 consciously connected? Right? And have you guys ever been in 2615 02:03:22.079 --> 02:03:23.880 a dream and you become lucid? Have you, guys ever 2616 02:03:23.920 --> 02:03:26.720 had a lucid dream where you start to become lucid. 2617 02:03:26.359 --> 02:03:27.560 In the dream. 2618 02:03:28.720 --> 02:03:29.680 So I don't dream. 2619 02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:31.399 I don't mean contrast. 2620 02:03:31.880 --> 02:03:35.680 I just mean a lucid dream where you're just you're 2621 02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:37.840 you're having a dream and you're like, oh my gosh, 2622 02:03:37.920 --> 02:03:41.600 I'm in a dream. What happens next? Usually right away. 2623 02:03:41.640 --> 02:03:42.239 I want to fly? 2624 02:03:43.319 --> 02:03:43.920 Got a block? 2625 02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:46.239 Bloh, okay? But then what happens. 2626 02:03:48.119 --> 02:03:48.319 Fly? 2627 02:03:48.760 --> 02:03:52.439 Or do you wake up? I usually when people become 2628 02:03:52.520 --> 02:03:56.159 lucid in a dream, unless you're experienced, you wake up. 2629 02:03:56.239 --> 02:03:57.479 It's escaping right away. 2630 02:03:57.560 --> 02:03:59.840 Yeah, It's it's almost like a Oh shit, I'm in 2631 02:03:59.880 --> 02:04:00.920 a dream. Let me hurry up. 2632 02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:02.920 I always feel like the need to hurry up and 2633 02:04:02.960 --> 02:04:04.560 do what I want to do because I know that 2634 02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:05.479 I'm going to wake up. 2635 02:04:05.399 --> 02:04:08.119 Soon, because You're gonna wake up. So I was thinking 2636 02:04:08.159 --> 02:04:09.720 about this. I'm like, well, I've heard a lot of 2637 02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:12.319 theories and I don't I don't know's I'm not projecting. 2638 02:04:12.560 --> 02:04:14.840 I'm not trying to portray that this is what I think. 2639 02:04:15.079 --> 02:04:17.439 But what if we are really all part of the 2640 02:04:17.479 --> 02:04:20.119 same thing, Like God created us. We're all strings of him, little, 2641 02:04:21.039 --> 02:04:24.399 you know, pieces of him, and we're on this little 2642 02:04:24.479 --> 02:04:28.279 dream world and a lot of people are kind of 2643 02:04:28.399 --> 02:04:32.239 waking up and looking around. We're not really enamored by 2644 02:04:32.279 --> 02:04:34.479 this world anymore. A lot of people are trying to 2645 02:04:34.479 --> 02:04:38.920 figure out what this world is, whereas Sep, I don't know. 2646 02:04:39.039 --> 02:04:41.399 Decades ago, people were just like, wow, fuck, yeah, this 2647 02:04:41.479 --> 02:04:44.159 is cool. I can sell vacuums door to door and 2648 02:04:44.199 --> 02:04:45.920 I just want to be a man and we can 2649 02:04:45.960 --> 02:04:48.319 go to the moon. But now people are like, what 2650 02:04:48.359 --> 02:04:51.119 the fuck is this? And when people say what the 2651 02:04:51.159 --> 02:04:54.720 fuck is this? Over and over again, it wings. But 2652 02:04:54.760 --> 02:04:57.319 it seems like the world's kind of falling apart around 2653 02:04:57.439 --> 02:04:59.640 us at the same time, and we're not wanting that. 2654 02:05:00.079 --> 02:05:02.680 Nobody really wants it, but it's kind of breaking down 2655 02:05:02.720 --> 02:05:06.720 around us, and it's it's almost like we're all collectively 2656 02:05:06.840 --> 02:05:09.560 slowly waking up from a dream. 2657 02:05:10.399 --> 02:05:13.199 So they're they call it the Great Awakening for a reason. 2658 02:05:13.279 --> 02:05:15.399 No, but like the Great Awakening is all of us 2659 02:05:15.439 --> 02:05:17.960 just realizing, oh, we were just sleeping the whole time, 2660 02:05:17.960 --> 02:05:20.680 but it's like just one thing and we're all a 2661 02:05:20.760 --> 02:05:21.399 part of it. 2662 02:05:21.399 --> 02:05:24.159 It very I think that that's actually probably the most 2663 02:05:24.399 --> 02:05:27.640 likely scenario because if you think about. 2664 02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:29.880 It, what was the name? Where was that that I 2665 02:05:29.960 --> 02:05:30.640 was just thinking of. 2666 02:05:30.920 --> 02:05:34.319 There's like some people will say that they'll they'll like 2667 02:05:34.640 --> 02:05:38.239 very heavily practiced within those kind of lucid dreams, Like 2668 02:05:38.319 --> 02:05:40.800 they know how to get there like regularly and stuff, 2669 02:05:40.840 --> 02:05:42.600 whether it's like drinking apple juice before you go to 2670 02:05:42.640 --> 02:05:46.439 bed or whatever. The fucking tricks are dmtls and right people, 2671 02:05:46.760 --> 02:05:49.319 and like they say that whenever you go there stuff 2672 02:05:49.720 --> 02:05:52.560 they say that, like whenever you become aware that you're 2673 02:05:52.600 --> 02:05:54.960 in a dream, people will start to really notice and 2674 02:05:55.000 --> 02:05:56.319 they're like pointing out. 2675 02:05:56.119 --> 02:05:57.439 At you, like the matrix. 2676 02:05:59.000 --> 02:06:02.760 But that takes practice. So one time that actually happened 2677 02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:06.680 to me in a dream, the only time, because every 2678 02:06:06.680 --> 02:06:09.319 time I become lucid in a dream, I wake up 2679 02:06:09.720 --> 02:06:12.800 or I have tried to fly and I have been successful, 2680 02:06:12.840 --> 02:06:15.159 like two or three times. It was pretty cool. But 2681 02:06:15.560 --> 02:06:17.520 for the most part, I don't know what's going on 2682 02:06:17.600 --> 02:06:20.239 in my dreams, but I remember them very clearly. But 2683 02:06:20.319 --> 02:06:22.279 I remember there was one dream I had where I 2684 02:06:23.439 --> 02:06:27.359 touched I was. I woke up and I was I 2685 02:06:27.399 --> 02:06:31.119 was on my bed and I saw other people floating 2686 02:06:31.119 --> 02:06:33.119 around and I went up to touch a person. I 2687 02:06:33.159 --> 02:06:35.439 was like, hey, you're a week too, this is cool. 2688 02:06:35.439 --> 02:06:37.880 And we were just in nothing, like, just floating in space, 2689 02:06:38.119 --> 02:06:40.239 and I went to touch his hand and as we touched, 2690 02:06:41.279 --> 02:06:44.000 we went to touch fingers like et and all of 2691 02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:46.199 a sudden, this demon thing came up and it was 2692 02:06:46.239 --> 02:06:49.079 like it had caddiers that were sewn onto its head. 2693 02:06:49.119 --> 02:06:51.199 I'll never forget that that it it looked like it 2694 02:06:51.239 --> 02:06:53.720 had a fake, fake head, like it looked like it 2695 02:06:53.760 --> 02:06:57.199 was trying to be fakely scary, and it was like, eh, 2696 02:06:57.399 --> 02:06:59.760 just trying to scare me, and I just I started 2697 02:06:59.800 --> 02:07:01.199 yell at it, and I was like, get the fuck 2698 02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:03.760 out of here a stop, And in real life that 2699 02:07:03.880 --> 02:07:08.960 translated to me going eh, Joe had to waken ye 2700 02:07:09.479 --> 02:07:11.479 because he was like, what are you doing? And I 2701 02:07:11.520 --> 02:07:13.159 was like, I was scaring the demon away, but it 2702 02:07:13.199 --> 02:07:15.680 was angry. It only came up when I was trying 2703 02:07:15.720 --> 02:07:18.600 to touch fingers with a person. Like that's really prominent 2704 02:07:18.640 --> 02:07:20.760 in my dream that I was just I was like 2705 02:07:20.920 --> 02:07:22.960 at the edge of my bed and this other dude 2706 02:07:23.039 --> 02:07:25.319 was like touching my finger and I was like, are 2707 02:07:25.359 --> 02:07:27.319 you real and he was like, yeah, I'm real, and 2708 02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:29.399 we went to touch fingers and as soon as that 2709 02:07:29.680 --> 02:07:34.279 was yes, that's exactly what I sounded like in real life. 2710 02:07:34.960 --> 02:07:37.000 But in the dream, I was trying to fight this 2711 02:07:37.119 --> 02:07:39.720 demon because it came up and it was just trying 2712 02:07:39.720 --> 02:07:41.880 to scare me. It wasn't trying to hurt me. It 2713 02:07:41.920 --> 02:07:44.960 wasn't attacking me. It was just trying to be scary 2714 02:07:45.039 --> 02:07:47.520 with like fake Uncanny Valley shit on its head. 2715 02:07:47.600 --> 02:07:50.880 That was like dream security or some shit. It was 2716 02:07:50.920 --> 02:07:52.600 like the security guards within the dream. 2717 02:07:52.600 --> 02:07:54.560 Almost I was maybe in a place where I was 2718 02:07:54.600 --> 02:07:57.640 too lucid. It was like no, like you're behind the veil, like. 2719 02:07:58.039 --> 02:07:58.840 Agent here Smith. 2720 02:08:00.199 --> 02:08:02.800 And the point that I was trying to make though, 2721 02:08:02.920 --> 02:08:05.159 is that you know, the people that are lucid, they 2722 02:08:05.199 --> 02:08:08.359 they normally get caught out or called out like and 2723 02:08:08.359 --> 02:08:10.880 and looked at very differently. And you feel like you 2724 02:08:10.920 --> 02:08:14.479 got all the eyes on you because you've become aware. Meanwhile, 2725 02:08:14.479 --> 02:08:17.119 all those other people for some reason, why are they 2726 02:08:17.159 --> 02:08:21.039 becoming aware that you're you know, where you shouldn't be, 2727 02:08:21.199 --> 02:08:21.720 Like how do. 2728 02:08:21.800 --> 02:08:25.199 They know projecting out? How do they know? Like where's 2729 02:08:25.239 --> 02:08:28.359 that signal coming from in you? How do you prevent 2730 02:08:28.399 --> 02:08:29.159 that from happening? 2731 02:08:29.279 --> 02:08:32.079 And also like I you know, in relaying that into 2732 02:08:32.119 --> 02:08:34.640 like real world terms, you know, in a strange way, 2733 02:08:34.760 --> 02:08:37.239 Like so you go over there, everybody knows that they 2734 02:08:37.560 --> 02:08:39.359 know to get all the eyes on you. They know 2735 02:08:39.399 --> 02:08:42.039 that you're in a you shouldn't be there that and 2736 02:08:42.119 --> 02:08:45.239 you know that it's a dream and that it's not real, right, 2737 02:08:45.520 --> 02:08:48.199 But over here in the real world, I feel like 2738 02:08:48.279 --> 02:08:49.680 a lot of the stuff that we used to talk 2739 02:08:49.800 --> 02:08:51.479 or a lot of the stuff that we do talk 2740 02:08:51.520 --> 02:08:54.920 about now, whether it's like weird spiritual stuff or aliens 2741 02:08:55.039 --> 02:08:57.479 or you know, the matrix reality, It used to be 2742 02:08:57.760 --> 02:09:00.520 like a conversation that you wouldn't be able to have 2743 02:09:00.600 --> 02:09:02.920 with anybody. You would you would have to you know, 2744 02:09:03.079 --> 02:09:05.439 you would have to have you know, talking talk about 2745 02:09:05.439 --> 02:09:07.439 it to your brother or your best friend or your sister. 2746 02:09:07.600 --> 02:09:09.880 You're you know, somebody close that you actually trust. 2747 02:09:11.359 --> 02:09:15.159 What do you think about where we are talking about. 2748 02:09:14.920 --> 02:09:16.720 It to my weed dealer because he's the only one 2749 02:09:16.760 --> 02:09:19.520 who'd be like, dude. 2750 02:09:18.399 --> 02:09:23.720 To the brothers who are now sisters that wrote the matrix, 2751 02:09:25.640 --> 02:09:29.479 they said, they said that the whole thing came to 2752 02:09:29.520 --> 02:09:32.399 them in a dream. 2753 02:09:32.399 --> 02:09:34.640 Well, and and that was kind of My point is that, 2754 02:09:34.720 --> 02:09:38.720 like I feel like everybody nowadays is kind of are 2755 02:09:38.720 --> 02:09:41.239 they possibly waking up? Are we the ones that are 2756 02:09:41.279 --> 02:09:43.119 in the dream that are becoming self aware that this 2757 02:09:43.239 --> 02:09:46.279 reality isn't what we think it is? Because these conversations 2758 02:09:46.319 --> 02:09:49.279 are you having are being had like way more frequently 2759 02:09:49.560 --> 02:09:52.359 to where it's not so crazy, like it's it's not 2760 02:09:52.520 --> 02:09:56.279 so conspiracy theorists to talk about the matrix or a 2761 02:09:56.359 --> 02:09:59.079 simulation or anything like that. It's becoming common. And I 2762 02:09:59.119 --> 02:10:01.399 think it's because most people, we really don't have a 2763 02:10:01.399 --> 02:10:03.720 fucking clue about what the hell we're doing here, and 2764 02:10:03.840 --> 02:10:05.319 so we're all trying to figure it all. 2765 02:10:05.239 --> 02:10:07.960 Out namord by the universe anymore. We're not trying to 2766 02:10:08.079 --> 02:10:10.960 figure we're not trying to play it. I mean, we 2767 02:10:11.079 --> 02:10:13.760 do have to like go to work, like to everyone's 2768 02:10:13.800 --> 02:10:16.439 point earlier, especially, we still have to go to work, 2769 02:10:16.479 --> 02:10:20.840 make money, pay our bills, whatever. But we're also thinking 2770 02:10:21.800 --> 02:10:24.560 other things are so much more important, like where do 2771 02:10:24.680 --> 02:10:27.359 we really come from? That's the deep down question we 2772 02:10:27.399 --> 02:10:29.479 all have. Who are we? Where do we come from? 2773 02:10:29.520 --> 02:10:33.479 What is our purpose? And that question is just louder 2774 02:10:33.520 --> 02:10:37.319 and louder. It's almost like you can hear it now 2775 02:10:37.479 --> 02:10:38.880 in everybody that you talk to. 2776 02:10:39.079 --> 02:10:40.960 Well, in the blind faith, I feel like, just talk 2777 02:10:41.000 --> 02:10:43.279 to behind closed stories. What I feel like blind faith 2778 02:10:43.359 --> 02:10:45.279 is starting to lose a little bit of its steam, 2779 02:10:45.640 --> 02:10:47.359 you know, like a in kind of a weird way. 2780 02:10:47.399 --> 02:10:49.119 It used to be you wouldn't even question it. And 2781 02:10:49.159 --> 02:10:51.079 as a matter of fact, if you did question it, 2782 02:10:51.079 --> 02:10:53.279 it's probably because you got a demon inside of you 2783 02:10:53.319 --> 02:10:55.880 and he's he's relaying all those thoughts. Get those demons 2784 02:10:55.920 --> 02:10:57.680 out of your head. Why are you thinking this? You 2785 02:10:57.760 --> 02:10:59.920 know the truth, you read the truth, We taught you 2786 02:11:00.119 --> 02:11:02.680 the truth. And now it's like people are, you know, 2787 02:11:02.760 --> 02:11:04.119 thinking on their own And. 2788 02:11:04.439 --> 02:11:07.000 Dude, when I first started talking about aliens and shit, 2789 02:11:07.119 --> 02:11:10.760 I was like seventeen smoking weed and we it was 2790 02:11:10.800 --> 02:11:14.039 an unspoken thing that we smoke a joint. We talk 2791 02:11:14.079 --> 02:11:17.000 about aliens and then it doesn't go past that. You 2792 02:11:17.039 --> 02:11:19.680 don't talk about that while you're at work. Yeah, now 2793 02:11:19.720 --> 02:11:21.119 we talk about it work all the time. I don't 2794 02:11:21.159 --> 02:11:25.000 give a shit. But uh, it does seem like the 2795 02:11:26.640 --> 02:11:28.880 like what you were saying, like we're not enamored or 2796 02:11:28.960 --> 02:11:30.199 what you were saying, We're not. 2797 02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:31.800 With this world. 2798 02:11:31.800 --> 02:11:33.039 We're not obsessed with it anymore. 2799 02:11:33.039 --> 02:11:35.119 We're not trying to do all the things things like 2800 02:11:35.239 --> 02:11:40.319 NASA where seventy million dollars a day for how many decades? 2801 02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:42.800 And what have we learned from them? Have we got 2802 02:11:43.000 --> 02:11:47.720 a nice James Webb CGI telescope fucking ba Sure that's. 2803 02:11:47.640 --> 02:11:50.319 Real, though they know that some people do. 2804 02:11:50.520 --> 02:11:50.600 So. 2805 02:11:50.680 --> 02:11:53.880 Look, I'm not saying that space is all faking gay. 2806 02:11:53.880 --> 02:11:56.600 There's obviously stars up there, there's something up there. I 2807 02:11:56.600 --> 02:11:58.920 would love to see what it really is, though. I 2808 02:11:58.920 --> 02:12:01.399 would love to be able to go up into space 2809 02:12:01.760 --> 02:12:04.800 past the Earth's atmosphere and see what it really is. 2810 02:12:05.399 --> 02:12:07.279 So I don't want to believe it's not I don't 2811 02:12:07.279 --> 02:12:09.640 want to believe it's a hologram. I want to believe 2812 02:12:09.640 --> 02:12:10.600 there's something else there. 2813 02:12:11.199 --> 02:12:13.399 I think it just I think that the seventy million 2814 02:12:13.439 --> 02:12:15.840 dollars a day should get us better fucking shit than 2815 02:12:15.880 --> 02:12:19.439 what NASA has given us. 2816 02:12:18.319 --> 02:12:20.000 To be Like, what the fuck is up there? Like, 2817 02:12:20.039 --> 02:12:21.880 we really have no idea? I mean, it is it 2818 02:12:22.000 --> 02:12:23.079 costs so much. 2819 02:12:23.239 --> 02:12:27.039 Is it possible that the matrix just stops rendering whenever 2820 02:12:27.079 --> 02:12:31.279 you go up so high and that's what we're seeing, Yes. 2821 02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:33.119 But that would cost so much to figure that out. 2822 02:12:33.119 --> 02:12:36.239 They're like, what kind of program, Like we have to 2823 02:12:36.279 --> 02:12:39.000 build a computer to build this? That's like, maybe what 2824 02:12:39.159 --> 02:12:41.800 cern is for it build us a new universe so 2825 02:12:41.840 --> 02:12:43.479 we can figure out where the fuck we are. 2826 02:12:43.680 --> 02:12:45.600 If you can make a shitload of money off of it, 2827 02:12:45.680 --> 02:12:49.560 you will just the same with the carbon emission bullshit 2828 02:12:49.680 --> 02:12:53.039 that you know, we're hardly contributing to, but we're essentially 2829 02:12:53.079 --> 02:12:54.640 you know what they say is we're kind of like 2830 02:12:54.640 --> 02:12:56.439 the stain on the Earth and we're the ones that 2831 02:12:56.520 --> 02:12:58.800 are terrorizing the Earth. It's like, no, the Earth has 2832 02:12:58.840 --> 02:13:01.840 regular cycles and it goes through this literally every a 2833 02:13:01.840 --> 02:13:05.119 few thousand years or whatever it is. But it's like, look, 2834 02:13:05.119 --> 02:13:06.720 if you can find a way to be able to 2835 02:13:06.720 --> 02:13:09.119 make money on it and kind of sound like you 2836 02:13:09.199 --> 02:13:11.680 know what you're talking about and using scientific terms that 2837 02:13:12.079 --> 02:13:16.119 people just find it out of the realm of their understanding. 2838 02:13:16.159 --> 02:13:18.000 Then you can get away with it. And that's you know, 2839 02:13:18.079 --> 02:13:19.840 that's what's been going on the Live Star. 2840 02:13:19.840 --> 02:13:22.119 Not what if it's not nefarious, like what if they're 2841 02:13:22.159 --> 02:13:24.680 really just trying to figure out what's going on. But 2842 02:13:24.680 --> 02:13:27.920 they also can't alarm everybody at the same time, they 2843 02:13:27.960 --> 02:13:30.399 can't be like, hey, guess what, we have absolutely no 2844 02:13:30.439 --> 02:13:33.000 idea what the fuck is going on on the ground 2845 02:13:33.119 --> 02:13:35.760 you walk on on a daily basis, How fun getting 2846 02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:38.720 to work tomorrow by you know, like they have to 2847 02:13:38.800 --> 02:13:41.000 just they have to keep the peace, They have to 2848 02:13:42.560 --> 02:13:47.479 attain homeostasis in a way mentally for everybody, so they lie. 2849 02:13:47.880 --> 02:13:51.159 I don't think it's great. I'm highly annoyed by it, 2850 02:13:51.239 --> 02:13:54.600 don't get me wrong, But I can see from a 2851 02:13:54.640 --> 02:13:58.239 managerial perspective why they do it. They don't want to 2852 02:13:58.279 --> 02:14:01.079 freak everybody out, but they're like, no, for real, like 2853 02:14:01.119 --> 02:14:03.880 what the fuck are what's going on here? They probably 2854 02:14:03.880 --> 02:14:06.159 don't know figure it out, taking a ton of money 2855 02:14:06.159 --> 02:14:09.279 in the process, because maybe it takes that amount of money. 2856 02:14:09.760 --> 02:14:12.359 I'm also not condoning what NAS is doing. Don't get 2857 02:14:12.399 --> 02:14:15.800 me wrong here, I'm just saying, like, there's there's reasons 2858 02:14:15.840 --> 02:14:18.319 why people do things. Like you can bring it down 2859 02:14:18.319 --> 02:14:21.640 to like a parental and child level, where like parents 2860 02:14:21.880 --> 02:14:25.319 will say, like, Okay, we have no money right now, 2861 02:14:25.359 --> 02:14:28.399 Like I can't afford to pay for you to go 2862 02:14:28.479 --> 02:14:31.239 to this amazing college, but I can't afford to buy 2863 02:14:31.760 --> 02:14:35.000 a six pack of beer because I'm fucking miserable because 2864 02:14:35.000 --> 02:14:36.760 I can't pay my bills. And I also have to 2865 02:14:36.840 --> 02:14:40.279 like be okay with myself for a minute. And I'm 2866 02:14:40.279 --> 02:14:42.640 not agreeing with any of these things. I'm just saying 2867 02:14:42.720 --> 02:14:47.039 sometimes people make weird choices to maintain homeostasis within themselves. 2868 02:14:47.199 --> 02:14:50.119 It's like macrocosm microcosm stuff, Like you want to make 2869 02:14:50.159 --> 02:14:52.319 the world around you great, but you have to also 2870 02:14:52.399 --> 02:14:55.800 be okay yourself. And if it takes like a couple 2871 02:14:55.840 --> 02:14:58.359 of beers to then go to bed and get up 2872 02:14:58.359 --> 02:15:00.199 and do your job the next day to all so 2873 02:15:00.279 --> 02:15:03.279 be a great parent to your kid, but also kind 2874 02:15:03.319 --> 02:15:05.439 of lie to them about maybe why you can't make 2875 02:15:05.439 --> 02:15:08.840 the house payment. I don't know, it's hard. I'm not 2876 02:15:08.880 --> 02:15:11.239 saying that it's a good choice. I'm just saying that's 2877 02:15:11.279 --> 02:15:13.600 maybe why those choices are made. They don't want to 2878 02:15:13.600 --> 02:15:17.319 freak anyone out. You can't tell your kid every night, Hey, 2879 02:15:17.319 --> 02:15:19.600 guess what, we can't pay the fucking house billy. We're 2880 02:15:19.600 --> 02:15:23.520 going to be homeless soon, so plan for that. Meanwhile, 2881 02:15:23.680 --> 02:15:25.880 I'm gonna go drink this beer. You have to try 2882 02:15:25.920 --> 02:15:28.199 to make it okay. And I think that's maybe what 2883 02:15:28.279 --> 02:15:31.960 the government does. Also again, sorry for like the third 2884 02:15:32.000 --> 02:15:35.560 time not justifying it. Taking government rip that band off 2885 02:15:35.640 --> 02:15:38.479 and tell us we'll figure it out for ourselves. We're 2886 02:15:38.520 --> 02:15:41.399 not gen z, motherfucker. But I think that's maybe why 2887 02:15:41.439 --> 02:15:41.920 that happens. 2888 02:15:42.319 --> 02:15:44.159 I think you might be onto something. 2889 02:15:44.279 --> 02:15:47.880 And look, I think this entire conversation has been somewhat 2890 02:15:47.960 --> 02:15:52.640 of a conspiracy theorist wet dream if you will, if 2891 02:15:52.720 --> 02:15:55.680 you would, the legit bats over here. 2892 02:15:55.880 --> 02:15:57.199 I love you guys. 2893 02:15:57.279 --> 02:15:59.199 You guys are so awesome. Thank you guys so much 2894 02:15:59.239 --> 02:15:59.960 for coming on the show. 2895 02:16:01.119 --> 02:16:03.439 If you having us know, you guys are awesome. 2896 02:16:03.520 --> 02:16:04.880 What the you're welcome? 2897 02:16:05.399 --> 02:16:07.760 With his short hair, he's just trying to show off 2898 02:16:07.840 --> 02:16:08.159 right now. 2899 02:16:08.439 --> 02:16:13.720 Yea shake it baby, if you would, I'll get back 2900 02:16:13.720 --> 02:16:14.520 to your level, buddy. 2901 02:16:15.039 --> 02:16:16.680 Yeah, one day hell yeah. 2902 02:16:16.960 --> 02:16:18.920 Let the cult members know where they can find y'all. 2903 02:16:20.840 --> 02:16:25.199 Uh, pretty much anywhere you find podcasts. We're on YouTube 2904 02:16:25.520 --> 02:16:30.680 well for now, every audio player for now. We are 2905 02:16:30.800 --> 02:16:32.600 on rock Fin too. But I've been kind of like 2906 02:16:33.120 --> 02:16:34.000 leaning away from. 2907 02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:37.200 That Instagram with the great memes from Instagram. 2908 02:16:37.280 --> 02:16:40.200 Yeah, come on the Instagram. That's fucking fun. I post 2909 02:16:40.280 --> 02:16:41.920 all kinds of makes. 2910 02:16:41.840 --> 02:16:44.840 People so happy or so miserable almost every single day. 2911 02:16:44.959 --> 02:16:48.360 Mostly that's legit bat or at legit Bat. 2912 02:16:49.639 --> 02:16:54.079 Yeah, yeah, buddy, bet Uh. Pretty much everything's just that, 2913 02:16:54.440 --> 02:16:56.079 which makes sense because that's our name. 2914 02:16:57.159 --> 02:16:57.520 Okay. 2915 02:16:59.360 --> 02:17:02.200 The other thing I like, as far as final words go, 2916 02:17:03.639 --> 02:17:08.200 everybody just figure your own shit out. Use your turn signals. 2917 02:17:08.559 --> 02:17:11.799 That's my first piece of advice. Be nice to each 2918 02:17:11.840 --> 02:17:14.280 other when you listen to shows like this. There's no 2919 02:17:14.440 --> 02:17:18.040 reason to get mad, trust me. Okay, if you disagree 2920 02:17:18.079 --> 02:17:21.520 with something, that's fine. Do you have to get mad 2921 02:17:21.760 --> 02:17:25.399 and go fucking wild and post weird reviews and shit 2922 02:17:25.559 --> 02:17:27.840 like that like you do on these motherfuckers channels? 2923 02:17:28.200 --> 02:17:28.840 No, you don't. 2924 02:17:29.840 --> 02:17:33.840 You could save time in your day and just not 2925 02:17:34.000 --> 02:17:34.200 do that. 2926 02:17:34.440 --> 02:17:37.120 Do something else that makes so happy. If you don't 2927 02:17:37.159 --> 02:17:39.920 lay something you're listening to turn it off and go 2928 02:17:40.040 --> 02:17:43.000 buy a cord of ice cream and eat it to 2929 02:17:43.079 --> 02:17:43.760 your whole head. 2930 02:17:44.040 --> 02:17:46.280 Or you could dye your hair blue and go think 2931 02:17:46.399 --> 02:17:49.799 up voting, tell your armpit hair blue. Just do that, 2932 02:17:50.399 --> 02:17:52.559 or just trying to you know, I part words of 2933 02:17:52.600 --> 02:17:55.360 wisdom here. You can just not do most of the 2934 02:17:55.440 --> 02:17:57.840 things you do. That's it, I mean. 2935 02:17:58.040 --> 02:18:01.079 Or you can still keep on shit posts and commenting 2936 02:18:01.239 --> 02:18:04.600 because I will happily jerk off and offensive people or 2937 02:18:04.680 --> 02:18:05.760 offended people's tears. 2938 02:18:06.680 --> 02:18:09.879 I find that they make the best loop. And so 2939 02:18:10.040 --> 02:18:10.760 every time we. 2940 02:18:11.399 --> 02:18:15.680 Get a nasty little negative review like you Boby, good, 2941 02:18:15.719 --> 02:18:16.399 it to me more. 2942 02:18:16.440 --> 02:18:19.399 I want them. I will say this awesome. 2943 02:18:20.159 --> 02:18:22.360 For anybody who wants to be a part of what 2944 02:18:22.520 --> 02:18:25.280 the hell we're talking about right now, then at this time, 2945 02:18:25.440 --> 02:18:30.440 for free, that is correct, right now, if you could 2946 02:18:30.479 --> 02:18:33.399 please hit the five stars, hit the share, the like, 2947 02:18:33.479 --> 02:18:35.680 subscribe the comments, leave a post, leave review, shares, shit 2948 02:18:35.719 --> 02:18:36.959 your friends and family, shares everywhere. 2949 02:18:36.959 --> 02:18:39.319 Here's the deal. The more activity the algorithms sees across 2950 02:18:39.360 --> 02:18:39.799 all of our. 2951 02:18:39.719 --> 02:18:42.639 Listening platforms, the more we get promoted to more potential listeners, 2952 02:18:42.680 --> 02:18:44.600 who can then become potential COLT members like the rest 2953 02:18:44.639 --> 02:18:46.719 of you find ladies and gentlemen. And while you're at it, 2954 02:18:47.040 --> 02:18:49.440 go check out Mada Mysteries, Jonathan's other show and give 2955 02:18:49.520 --> 02:18:52.559 him the five star reviews, the positivity in the comments, 2956 02:18:52.760 --> 02:18:55.040 give him the shares of the subscribes. Go check out 2957 02:18:55.159 --> 02:18:57.840 legit bat podcasts on all of their platforms. Getting the 2958 02:18:57.920 --> 02:19:01.600 love build up these algorithms, we thank you for everybody's already. 2959 02:19:01.399 --> 02:19:01.799 Gone and done. 2960 02:19:01.840 --> 02:19:04.559 So I think you just maxed out the decibels on 2961 02:19:04.799 --> 02:19:06.600 that microphone, so good job. 2962 02:19:06.719 --> 02:19:09.040 So so that's what That's what I'm talking about with 2963 02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:13.639 the scissor hands. Yea, the knife knife hands, Okay, because 2964 02:19:13.639 --> 02:19:15.040 I've heard you say that, I'm like, what the fuck 2965 02:19:15.040 --> 02:19:15.559 does that mean? 2966 02:19:15.639 --> 02:19:17.719 You're the world right now? 2967 02:19:18.120 --> 02:19:19.760 Yeah, it's a it's a marine thing. 2968 02:19:20.200 --> 02:19:25.159 Instead of pointing the knife you yeah, bitch. 2969 02:19:27.159 --> 02:19:29.719 Because it depends on the inflection, right, So like a 2970 02:19:29.799 --> 02:19:34.399 knife hand upward could be like I need something from you, Hey, 2971 02:19:34.520 --> 02:19:37.440 go over here, do this. A knife hand downwards is 2972 02:19:37.559 --> 02:19:40.920 more like I find of want to like touch the 2973 02:19:41.040 --> 02:19:43.639 inside of your brain with my hand right now. 2974 02:19:43.719 --> 02:19:45.680 It's a different inflection, right. 2975 02:19:45.639 --> 02:19:47.440 It's a handshake to me. 2976 02:19:52.719 --> 02:19:54.719 Well, although I will say this, there's a lot of 2977 02:19:54.799 --> 02:19:59.440 freemasons within the Marine Corps. A lot of them are like, 2978 02:20:00.120 --> 02:20:02.799 I don't know what it is indicatively of a certain 2979 02:20:02.920 --> 02:20:09.959 racial group, but once, no, dude, no, it's weird. If 2980 02:20:10.000 --> 02:20:12.079 you get to like staff sergeant in the Marine Corps 2981 02:20:12.079 --> 02:20:15.319 and you're black, then like there's a very high chancey 2982 02:20:15.360 --> 02:20:19.399 you're gonna be approached to be a freemason. It's very strange, weird, 2983 02:20:19.879 --> 02:20:23.840 we I mean, sirred with him and all, but like yeah, 2984 02:20:23.879 --> 02:20:24.399 wild shit. 2985 02:20:24.520 --> 02:20:26.040 But anyway, anyway, let's. 2986 02:20:25.799 --> 02:20:29.040 Wrap this thing anyway. Look, yes, with all of that 2987 02:20:29.200 --> 02:20:30.680 craziness being said. 2988 02:20:30.559 --> 02:20:34.360 This was another beautiful episode of the Cults of Conspiracy. 2989 02:20:34.799 --> 02:20:37.280 And my name is Jonathan, I'm Jackos And there's one 2990 02:20:37.360 --> 02:20:39.440 very important, extremely vital piece of information we need you 2991 02:20:39.479 --> 02:20:41.639 to learn just as soon as humanly possible. 2992 02:20:42.639 --> 02:20:43.280 Open it up. 2993 02:20:43.440 --> 02:20:44.520 That third. 2994 02:21:04.079 --> 02:21:07.360 Hey, cult members, Jacob here just want to ask who 2995 02:21:07.440 --> 02:21:10.559 wants better sex? 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