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please go to Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's

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guest is Daisy from the UK. Daisy, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Vick, and thank you for getting in touch and

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letting me do this. An amazing experience and hopefully I

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will learn from it as well.

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Speaker 1: I hope you do, and thanks for reaching out to

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share your experiences with me. I definitely appreciate it. Daisy,

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please give us a brief bio on yourself.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm obviously in the UK. I live on

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a very old farm. The farm is in the Domesday Book,

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surrounded by ancient woodlands, fields, rivers, brook streams, lots and

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lots of underground springs. Our farm is way off the

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road down along track. In anybody that knows the UK,

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the Surrey Sussex border, it's an absolutely stunning area. It's

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a very remote, much more remote than people would think

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for the UK. I was born here on the farm.

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I was born in the sitting room beside the front room,

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beside the fire and I always grew up and Mum

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completely understand how I how I feel about this. I

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used to say that this land feels like the very

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womb that I came from, because that's how much it

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means to me. I absolutely love it. It feels like

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my soul just comes back to be here time and

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time again. It's an incredible place. There were six of

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us kids and we just grew up playing on the farm,

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playing hide and seek, playing up in the woods. We

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used to grab an old sack and take our toys

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up in the sack to the woods and find old

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trees that were hollow, and build camps and and just

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having a wonderful time as kids should grow up. And

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we would at night times we wouldn't have electric we

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would play if anybody remembers the game Hunts the Fimble,

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where we would all play as one of us would

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hide a fimble in the house and we would just

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have wonderful times, wonderful memories of growing up here isolated

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on this farm. It was just an incredible experience I

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feel very blessed to have had. There's old buildings outside,

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really really ancient buildings. We've all we've all grown up.

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Myself and my brothers and sisters. We all grew up

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seeing spirits around the farm in the house. It was

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such a common occurrence that we, you know, you didn't

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really talk about it that often because it would literally

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happen every day. We just all grew up, you know,

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seeing spirits. Some of them had certain names, and some

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of them were great fun and some weren't. And it's

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a lovely childhood, really, I would say, an old fashioned childhood.

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You know. We were just left to do our own thing.

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We would go up the woods early in the morning

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and not get back till dark, and Mum wouldn't have

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to worry about it. Everything was absolutely fine. And we

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all had dogs. At one point there were six dogs

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in the house. We've had ponies. I have now had

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two owls, one of which I found when he was

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two weeks old. He'd plopped out the tree, as torny

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owls do, and the cattle had trod on him. So

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I hand reared him, and he now lives in my

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bedroom with me and comes up the woods with me

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and my dogs and sits on my shoulder. He can't

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fly very far. So I feel completely blessed with how

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my life has been and how it is now. I've

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just turned sixty. I never got married. I didn't want kids.

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I love kids, but I didn't want kids. I just

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loved the farm so much. I stayed here with my mum,

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looking after her and the farm. Mom has now passed

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five years ago, but being with what I grew up

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seeing as in spirits, she's been back to see me.

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And if I could go into more detail about that

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that he's a wonderful thing to know that your loved

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ones that have passed pop back into see you. They're

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absolutely fine, they really really are. I've seen dogs that

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have passed people, all sorts of things. Anyway, Yes, my

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childhood has just been just been absolutely incredible, absolutely incredible.

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We a we us, my family and a lot of

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villages have had big cat sightings. Okay, when I was

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very young, we used to push a pram through the

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woods to see my nanny and on the way we

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would pick up firewood for her, and my mum always

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had a gun tucked in the in the covers of

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this old pram in case we came across one of

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these large cats. I've seen one twice recently, and when

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a lot of the things that I'm just about to

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talk about started we you know, we honestly put it

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down to these large cats. Never ever dreamt of anything

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being around about what. You know what I'm going to

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talk about. I have a horse who is involved in

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some of this. I'm trying to think. I love arts.

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I love painting the woodlands that you know that I'm

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I'm surrounded by. I love painting the streams. We used

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to we used to play in the rivers, We used

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to make old rafts out of cans from the farm,

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and just had an absolutely wonderful childhood here. I've just

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grown up knowing every inch of the woodlands. I can

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walk from miles without seeing anybody out there. It's just

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I feel I do again. I feel fairly blessed to

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live this life, and I pray with every day that

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it continues as it is now. It's just an incredible experience.

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I go fishing. We all grew up fishing, and I

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still go fishing. And it's more. It's more just to

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catch fish. It's just being down there beside the river,

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listening to the river and seeing the kingfishers and the herons,

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and you know, a deer coming up somewhere, and just

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sitting there in peace, just soaking up this atmosphere. It's

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I think places like this are becoming rarer and rarer,

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which is incredibly sad because as much as I love

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being here on my own, you know, if people were

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able to be in places like this and just sit

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and soak in the atmosphere, soaking the surroundings, it would

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help so many, just bring them so much peace. I

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now look after my dad, who can be quite hard work,

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but in himself is he's very open. He's had he's

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in UFOs, he's been in mind. This is a farmer.

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He's working six days a week, he's outside the whole time,

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and he's in UFOs. His He actually saw a ufo

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years ago chasing cattle and then it completely disappeared in

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front of his eyes. He's had huge grape, big blue

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orbs following him and his tractor home from work. He's

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had some amazing experiences. He hasn't seen what I've sinned,

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but he believes me one hundred percent, so much so

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that he actually said to me a while ago, he said,

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when I'm out lamping for foxes, he said, what do

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I actually do if I come across this? He said,

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what you know, what do I do? I said, if

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I see it in the headlamps, in the in the scope,

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and I just said, just just leave it, Dad, Just

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leave just leave it in peace, you know, just leave

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me and and nothing will happen. And he still hasn't

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seen it yet, but he's had and he's heard things

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now to leave him in no doubt at all that

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he believed me anyway, but he's heard things. One of

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which he was out in the back garden. It was

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a few months ago now, actually probably the end of

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last winter, because it was dark and he heard screaming

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and he actually came in, and you know, this is

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a really strong farm moment. He actually came in and

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he looked really shook up by what he'd heard. And

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now to the point now where we don't our dogs

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are never left on their own anyway, but we have

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a huge, big garden. My bedroom is a separate from

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the house. It's in an old bed of and believe

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it or not, it used to be a huge, big

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bread oven my bedroom, and it was they used to

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make so much bread here that it was part of

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the wages for the people on the farm. So this

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is what I'm trying to explain is that my bedroom

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is set from the house. It's in the garden and

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from there it just runs straight down the hill, over

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the river and up into miles and miles of woodlands

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and a couple of fields up there. I am so

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lucky I can. I will lay in bed and I

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can listen to the river and badgers and boxes squirreling

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and other owls, and then of course my owl is

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in my bedroom and Merlin and here start hooting and

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I just absolutely love it. I hardly ever watched TV

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because I just sit there enjoying the piece in the nighttime,

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and I'll watch YouTube if something is on there of

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interest in me, and I sit here and read and

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just listen to the night It's just the piece here

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is is absolutely incredible. And I think you know here

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in the UK, unfortunately, with all the building going up

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and everything, these places are, as I said, becoming rarer

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and rarer, which is really sad, because people need these places. People,

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they really do. They need to come out to these

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places and and experience this piece in their minds and

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their hearts.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Dazy, you sure you peeing a beautiful picture of

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your farm? You need to stop that you've got me

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ready to move in with you. You don't happen to

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have the spirit bedroom, do you.

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Speaker 2: No, we haven't, not now actually know. But you're always welcome,

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of course. Yes, yeah, we'll put you up in one

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of the shedsker Oh, you would love it. You know.

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It's it's hard work, but it's work you love and

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you live and it's what I call food for the soul.

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It really is. It is just an incredible lifestyle and

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't blame you at all. It sounds like

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a beautiful place. That really does. If you've had a

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dog mean encounter, I would like to speak with me

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about it, whether in private or on the show, Please

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go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. All right, ds,

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please tell us about your encounters. Now, give us every

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last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will try, and I will probably forget things

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and backtrack, but I will try, and because so many

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things have happened, some large and some very very small,

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and it's all those little small bits that help build

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the picture that I'm trying to remember. But here goes

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so around about twenty years ago, I was walking down

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an old cart track from the farm, had two dogs

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with me. I think it was a Westian, a big

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old cross red dog, a big old black, shaggy dog,

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very very happy. So these two dogs were trotting ahead

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of me, sniffing out rabbits and just having a wonderful

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time as dogs do. And I remember that I was

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looking down at the ground as I was going down

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this track, thinking about a problem, as we a lot

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of us do, and I try not to now. And

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these two dogs, that at this point had been trotten

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long happy with me, came flying back to me and

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stuck in behind my legs. They were leaning against me,

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and as they did that, I looked up. Now ahead

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of me was a bend you couldn't see around and

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till you were on it because of the trees either side.

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Coming around this bend and slightly downhill was this creature. He,

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like I said, he was coming down a slight hill.

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front end, and he was weird. It was so weird.

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looking down at the ground, and in my head. It

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was just like he was doing the same as me,

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looking down at the ground, thinking about problems or of something,

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and I must have gasped, and he looked up at me.

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like he was young and he was lost, and he

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wasn't expecting to see me there, and he was just

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as surprised to see me as I was him. But

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I now believe that that wasn't the case, and I

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think he I think he showed himself to me on purpose. Anyway,

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he was at that point, he was literally one color

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all over, which was like I describe as galaxies, sort

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of chocolate brown. He was at that point as he

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walked towards me, he was walking like a dog, so

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on all four feet, just wandering along, like I said,

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looking down at the ground, swinging his head slightly from

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the side to side. And as he saw me, it

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was so quick. He stood up on his back legs

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and he swung around he so he stood up just

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like a person. But he was just like a dog.

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his feet were just like a dog, but longer, and

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I can't honestly say about his front paws or his hands,

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but I know they were longer than a normal obviously

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a dog's paw. He didn't have a tail, and I

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saw very briefly. I saw his ears just long enough

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to know that they were They were long, they weren't round,

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you know, like a teddy bear. And he had he

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didn't have what I hear of in America. You've got

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these dogmen that have got the muzzles like a pointer

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or a Dobeman, that type of thing. He had a

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muzzle very similar to in proportion to his forehead, like

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a Springer spaniel, that type of length, you know, so

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not like a pug, but not really long and pointing,

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not like a greyhound type thing. And I thought at

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that point that he had gold eyes. I can't say

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that I saw them clear, but I just seemed to

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know that he had gold eyes. I didn't see any

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sexual parts, but I just seemed to feel that he

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was male and young. So as I said he saw me,

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he stood up, he span around really really quickly and

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charged back up this track on two two feet. But

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before he went around that bend and out of my sight,

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he disappeared in front of me. And so he just vanished,

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and it was I liken it too. If you're wrapping

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out a pencil mark on paper and just before it disappears,

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it sort of smudges and pulls away, That's what he did,

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and he was gone. I stood there, and there was fear,

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but there was also the feeling of you know, I've

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grown up seeing spirits all my life, so I wasn't

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really really terrified. But I was scared, but it wasn't terrified.

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And I think at that point I thought he was

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some type of like a woodland spirit, and I just

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kept thinking. But it's as people say, it was like

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a werewolf. And I at that point I didn't believe

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in them. And I believe one hundred percent what I've seen,

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but I still cannot get my head around a man

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turning to walk. So I don't think of these dog

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men as in the same because I believe that they

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are what they are the whole time. So anyway, so

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from that walk and seeing him, I walked back home

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with the dogs. I sat down with Mum and had

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a cup of coffee and I told her about this

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and she listened. But I think already at that point

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my brain was it felt like it was shutting down.

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It just it was like my brain refused to see

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what my eyes had seen. But again, like I said,

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because I've grown up seeing spirits in a weird sort

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of a way, I accepted it. Then life happens and

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you know, go out to work and everything in that

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and I didn't never, never, ever forgot about him. But

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do you know, you're not thinking about them every single day.

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And I carried on walking up the woods. As I've

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said earlier, I adore the woods. And before the second encounter,

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which I'm about to do about in the minute, I

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would wake up at two am in the morning and think,

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oh my god, it's beautiful outside. Grab one of the dogs,

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go off up the woods, watch the stars. I just

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adore being outside on my own, just me and a dog.

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So that was twenty years ago, roughly twenty years ago.

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Since then, lots of things have happened around the farm,

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animals being hurt or things, silly things like we've had large,

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really big fat ducks that were, you know, reared for

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eating and for eggs, and they were in a big

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open area with a stream and they would just disappear,

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and they were they were big, heavy ducks. If that

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had been a fox or something in there chasing them around.

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There would be feathers everywhere and carnage and feathers up

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against the wire and stuff. There were nothing these. It

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literally looked like someone had just walked in there and

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picked them up. Now you could say that, you know,

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maybe someone stole them, but with all the dogs down,

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we really didn't think that was the case. It was

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literally just like they'd been We did even go down

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the line of thinking, well, maybe we've got a huge

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bird of prey here picking them up, but even then

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you'd expect to find feathers somewhere. So there was that

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and sheep being killed and finding dead deer. You know,

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we've all got shotgun licenses. We've all seen deer shots

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and unfortunately killed by other people's dogs, and we've had

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to put them down or damaged by other people's dogs,

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and we've had to put them out in their misery.

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Poor things, some awful thing to happen to them. So

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I know what it's like to see try and explain

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deer that have been killed by I suppose dogs, Okay,

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but I found deer that have been killed that really

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did not look like a dog. All things have happened

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my horses on certain evening has been absolutely terrify mad,

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looking out across the field's eyes bulging out of his head,

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and he makes what I call an alarm call, which

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is similar to a shovel going down concrete. It's an

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awful noise. And if he's doing that, you know he's

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absolutely terrified, and you know he's probably more likely to

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hurt himself trying to get away from whatever he's upset

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in him than you know, if we used to at

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the time, like I said, think it was a big cat,

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probably just prowling around and the horses smelted, and as

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I said, was probably more likely to hurt himself running

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up against the gate or something than to actually be

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attacked by one. So we when all these things were

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going on, we honestly thought the big cats around would

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be careful for a while. We wouldn't let the dogs

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out in the garden, just just basic common safety sense

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around animals. Then in the year the winter and sorry,

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between all this time, my mom passed away and I

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was late just before she passed, when she was poorlye

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I am. I'm going to backtrack slightly. The same year

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that I saw my first dog man. I think it

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was the same summer my mom had a sighting. She

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was walking with a dog up from the river uphill.

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She said, at the top of this hill was a

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big old maple tree and she was really shaken when

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she told me that she was a really tough woman,

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really hard woman, and she was shaking. She said, as

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she was going up this hill with her dog, the

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tree started to shake, okay, and she stopped and watched, thinking,

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you know, maybe it's a landslide, slide, maybe that you

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know it's on the hill, the earth's going down into

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the river, and it wasn't, and the tree just started

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to shake. She said, it got very violent. It's quite

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a large tree. As she's standing there watching, thinking you

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know what's going on here, she said, these huge, big

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hands came out of the leaves. It was covered in

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leaf at that point of the year, and she said

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the leaves basically parted and this huge, ugly, very scary

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head glared out her and she bolted for home with

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the dog. Really scared her. So yeah, Over the years,

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things have happened, lots of different things. Then in the

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year the winter of twenty three, it got really bad

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lots of things happening. This sounds simple, but there were

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times when I would go outside to check the horse

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and I would just get hit by this intense fear.

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I've heard since then, I've heard of other people to

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about this, and it is so intense. I have described it,

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described it as it's like someone grabbing a bundle of

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fear out there pocket pocket and just throwing at you.

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And it hits you hard, and it's like the very muscles,

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the tissue around your bones go cold with this fear.

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It's horrendous. It's really really awful. I've literally had that

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fear thrown at me several times, and and I've gone

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back indoors, I've locked the doors, and I've just felt

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like whatever it is is wandering around outside just just

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keeping an eye on me. Like I said, I'm completely

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on my own. I don't need curtains. There's no curtains.

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There's there's I can stand on the farm at nighttime

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and not see another house light with that remote and

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there would be this fear. It was awful. I had

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trying to think. So that was the winter of twenty

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twenty three. We had a problem here with hornets. So

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I would have to keep my windows shut in my

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bedroom for a while. I've got the skylight in the

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mof This particular night, it was so it was just

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sort of going into the winter, but at this point

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it was still quite warm, and I hate being shut in,

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absolutely hate. It doesn't matter how cold it is, I

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have to have a window open. This particular night, I

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had the windows shut because of the hornets, and it

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was getting quite late, and I thought, I can't I

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can't cope with this. I can't sleep unless I can

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hear that river and just the outside. So I opened

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that skylight and within minutes I heard something. It came

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charging up the back lawn and it was like I

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hit the side of my bedroom and I could hear

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something scrabbling up onto my roof, and it started to

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run across the roof, heading towards that skylight that I'd

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only just open. So I leapt out of bed, slammed

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it shut, and I stood underneath it, thinking, I don't

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know actually if I want to see I don't know

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if I want to look up and actually see what

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there is, because I think I know what it is,

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but I don't actually want to see something looking down

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at me. Well, silly or not, I did stand there looking.

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I didn't see anything, and it went quiet. The next

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day I went outside, looked for damage on the roof,

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looked for skid marks up the wall where something is

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scrabbled up there absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing. It was unbelievable.

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So several times at nights, I've be in bed and

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we have between my bedroom, which is the old shed,

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as I said, and the main house, there's an alleyway.

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I ever ended that alleyway. There's two solid oak doors,

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very solid, but one of them has been cut into

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a stable door, so it's now in two halves. So

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basically we can we can open half of it but

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keep the dogs in safe. Something every now and then

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runs up that lawn and it hits that door, and

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I liken it to a big Old World war charging

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up that lawn. You can hear it, and then it

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just hits that door. That door is attached by the

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hinges to my bedroom, and it literally makes that wall shake.

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It's it's really really scary if you're you know, I'm

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on my own with my dogs, and it's really scary.

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So at this point I've been explaining about my dog.

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He's not massive. He's about the size of a large collige,

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your Springer Spaniel type size. He's he's half poodle and

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half Springer Spaniel. Incredibly energetic and I have never ever

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ever met such an intelligent dog. I literally talked to

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him like a person, and he will do things. It's incredible.

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It's quite uncanny. Actually, he has an aggressive aggressive well

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people say an aggressive problem. I've been told that he

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has a genetic what do they call it? Rage a syndrome.

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I personally don't believe that. I think it's just that

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he came to me. My mum brought him for me

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as a puppy when she was poorly and then she

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passed away, and I think he, you know, he grew

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up being very protective over me because of that, and

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then my brother passed away, and so he's been through

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all that stress with me and looking after me, and

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I think that's why he's just incredibly protective over me. Okay,

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so this dog is always on the bed with me

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at nighttime. When that would happen, instead of you would

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think he'd be going mad, charging around the bedroom barking,

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he won't here, just lay on the bed listening and

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he looks at me, and it's almost like he's saying

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to me, just sit there, just be quiet, don't say

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a word, you know, just pretend we're not here, sort

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of thing. So that's what we do. We just sit

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there and let it pass, trying do you think things?

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How we are? I see lots of orbs here, so

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I've told you about the blue orbs fulling my dad

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in the tractor. I believe I see red orbs. Now.

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It's when the red orbs appear that I always make

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sure i'm in before it starts to get dark. Not that.

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As I explained to you earlier, I love to be

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outside at nighttime, or I did until twenty twenty three

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when all these things really built up. Okay, So May

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the twenty seventh last year, another beautiful sunny day, as

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I've forgot to say the first and counters stunning day,

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you know, absolutely incredible, beautiful day. I'm walking down a

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track again which actually leads onto the original track, but

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they're about half a mile, a good half a mile apart,

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through some words beside a very very old church. I

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know say, I know these words, my lightly back in

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my hand. So I'm walking down this word with my

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dog that I've got now with my dad's dog. And

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from the right hand side, this this huge, big creature

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walked out from the right the wood on the right

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hand side of us, and he crossed the track in

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front of us. He was absolutely massive, absolutely huge. He

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didn't stand up. It was the whole time I saw him.

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He was on all fours but at the shoulder. He

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must have been close to six foot tall. He he

474
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:41,039
had a chest time like a horse. He's absolutely massive.

475
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:49,840
His head is huge. He I could slightly see through him,

476
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,280
but I could see enough of him to make out

477
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,159
all the colors that he was Again no tail. Had

478
00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:59,920
a clear view of his ears. His ears a long

479
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:04,639
and they are pointed. But because he's so big and

480
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:08,199
he was going under twigs and fingers, he'd laid his

481
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,239
ears flat on his head, just like a horseword. As

482
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,960
he walked across the track, he turned and he didn't

483
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,320
stop walking. He just carried on, very gracefully walking across

484
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,239
the track. And he did this on purpose, I know

485
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,599
he did so. As he's walking, he slowly, very gracefully

486
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:34,280
swung his womping, great big head round and looked straight

487
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,360
in my eyes. And he's got the most amazing beautiful

488
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,119
gold eyes. They are incredible, absolutely incredible. They didn't look

489
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,639
like a lot of people say they look like they've

490
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:49,519
got torches behind them. They didn't look like that. They

491
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:54,400
just looked like they were picking up every single little

492
00:35:54,440 --> 00:36:00,400
bit of sunlight in those woods, and they were just arkling,

493
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:12,079
just beautiful. And he his colors were Okay, I'm absolutely

494
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,000
positive it's the same one, but he's maybe as he's

495
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:20,800
got older or in this larger form, however he does this,

496
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:28,199
he's changed color. He's more beige, brown and blondes and

497
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,039
little gold high lights and beautiful colors in him. Really

498
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,400
and he looked really well. There was no smell at all,

499
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,760
absolutely no smell at all. So, like I said, he

500
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,719
swung his eyes, swung his head, and he looked straight

501
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,800
in my eyes. And at that point he did what

502
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:51,960
I've heard some other people say, he mind spoke to me.

503
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,320
He told me his name, but I'm not going to

504
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,920
repeat that because that's a very private thing and a

505
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,719
deep respect between him and me. His name is very ancient.

506
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,800
But he did tell me not to fear him. Okay,

507
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,519
he said, do not fear me. And he said a

508
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,840
little bit more, but again that's private between me and him.

509
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:20,599
Then he he went through a hole in out into

510
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:23,199
a field where an old, big, old, huge, big oatry

511
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:24,760
had come down a few years ago, and the hole

512
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,719
still there. And okay, so the instant that I saw

513
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,679
him do this, there was fear there. There was intense fear,

514
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,000
but it was for my dogs. I looked down at

515
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,199
my dogs and I was like, oh my god, I

516
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,880
just thought this thing was going to attack us. And

517
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,840
the first thought was my dogs, my dogs, They're my

518
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,079
world and they're my kids. And and then like I said,

519
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,199
he did that, and he said, do not fear me.

520
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:57,039
An instant instant, there was no fear, totally the opposite.

521
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:02,800
It was absolutely incredible. I could have I'm like my mum,

522
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:05,480
I can be very tough. I don't cry, but I

523
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,199
could have cried with the feeling of intense joy at

524
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,519
seeing him again. And over and over in my head,

525
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,400
I kept repeating, oh my god, I don't believe I'm

526
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,159
seeing you again. Oh my god, I'm seeing you again.

527
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,159
And it was like meeting a long lost member of

528
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,639
your family or a very close friend and you never

529
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:29,280
thought you'd see it again. And it was an absolutely

530
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,760
incredible feeling. To have something like that that people would

531
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,559
say is the ultimate monster that is not supposed to exist.

532
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:44,039
To have that feeling coming from him was incredible, like

533
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:47,079
we had always known each other and always missed each

534
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:51,480
other and we had just reconnected it. I cannot explain

535
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:56,480
how incredible that feeling was. So from there he went

536
00:38:56,559 --> 00:38:59,960
through the hole and I stood there for a few seconds,

537
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,760
just absolutely amazed, again thinking I can't believe this, I

538
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,239
can't believe I've seen you again. Pulled myself together and

539
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,639
I put, oh God, where's he gone? So I went

540
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,440
up the bank, looked through the hole and couldn't see him.

541
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Not a sign. So he had either disappeared like he

542
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:22,719
did the first time I saw him, or or he

543
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,719
had ran very fast down the field. What I didn't

544
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,519
say was that he didn't stand up, And I believe,

545
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,400
hand on heart, the reason he didn't stand up was

546
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:42,079
because he would have been so tall. I later told

547
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:44,039
my dad about this when I got home and we

548
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,000
were trying to work out how tall he would be.

549
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,119
Now he would have to be at least ten foot tall,

550
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,760
and I believe that if he had stood up, I

551
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,480
don't one there was I would have been terrified there

552
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,519
was absolutely you know, even him tell you do not

553
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:03,079
fear me. I would have been terrified, absolutely terrified. I

554
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:05,960
think my heart would have stopped. To see something that

555
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:11,039
massive standing in front of you is just your brain

556
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,559
just would not be able to cope with it. He

557
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:18,159
would be absolutely massive, at least ten foot tall. And

558
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:24,360
I stood there thinking, okay, well that was incredible, but

559
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,159
I don't feel fear at this point, and I'm going

560
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:32,320
to you know, we're going to make our walk short, shorter,

561
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,599
but we're going to carry on walking. So me and

562
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:40,119
the dogs carried on walking around this track which beard right,

563
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:47,320
and he had either come back in behind us or

564
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:53,360
there was something else there. Because as we beared right,

565
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:56,719
so we were going back around the woodland that he

566
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:04,480
had come from, there was a would knock. And I

567
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,599
don't know if anybody else has heard of these dog

568
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,320
men doing that or but that's what there was. I

569
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,519
would not, but it was more of a crack, a

570
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:17,960
really sharp crack on a solid tree. It pulled me

571
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:21,440
up short, and I thought, okay, well that must be him,

572
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,159
and he must have come back in behind us, and

573
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:26,199
what's the up to now? And I'm thinking, well, I'm

574
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,880
just gonna this is the quickest way out of the woods. Now,

575
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,400
we're not gonna we're not going to run, but you know,

576
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,159
we're not going to loiter sort of thing either. So

577
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,119
carried on walking, and there were just within a few

578
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:42,480
feet another two wood cracks, really loud and really closer,

579
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:46,000
and that scared me. And I stood there thinking, right, well,

580
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,000
we're almost out of the track, we're literally out of

581
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,679
the woods, and then we'll be on the track down

582
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,239
to the old church and then back across the field's home.

583
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,719
And almost as were out of the woods, only about

584
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,599
six foot away from me, on a very older horn beam,

585
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:09,559
a solid horn beam tree, was this almighty, really loud

586
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:13,360
wood crack about six feet away from me. I could

587
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,559
see the tree very clearly, couldn't see a thing, absolutely nothing,

588
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:22,199
nothing at all. So at that point I really was scared,

589
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:30,159
and I left the woods. I got home, and later

590
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:35,639
on that evening I told that about it. Then it

591
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,440
was all quite peaceful for quite a long time, quite

592
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:45,440
a long time, and I slowly started to hear things again,

593
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,880
screams when I was up in the woods. That's saying.

594
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,840
My dad had heard as well, and we couldn't put

595
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,559
it down to anything we've both we've both grown up,

596
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,320
you know, we live here listening to badgers. Badgers when

597
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,639
they're mate and or fighting can make some horrendous noises.

598
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,679
I know what they're like. This was not badgers or foxes.

599
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:09,159
You know, even Dick can make weird noises, not like

600
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:13,039
the alcan things that you have, but just our small

601
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:16,760
road deck can make weird barks and things. This was

602
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:24,480
nothing like that, nothing natural to hear anyway, trying to think.

603
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:33,000
I last August, I was sitting on the sofa with

604
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:36,559
my dog watching Telly. It was a Sunday evening. It

605
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:40,719
was about ten pm. Dad was fast asleep in the

606
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,239
chair with his dog. And I don't know if I

607
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,559
became if I heard something, or whether I became aware

608
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:55,159
of it, but this there has to be too because this,

609
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:04,079
I should think, six foot tall female dog man literally

610
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:11,719
glided past the window we have. The back garden is massive,

611
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,559
like I said, goes down to where's the front garden

612
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:15,599
is very small, and then go straight on to the farm.

613
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,280
And this glided past. So it was on the farm

614
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,559
and it literally glided past the garden fence. There was that,

615
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:25,840
and I gasped and stood up, and my dad woke

616
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,159
up and he was like, oh God, and he said,

617
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:29,599
you want me to come out and check the horse,

618
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:31,199
and I said no, I said, I'm going to go

619
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,960
out there now before just I'm going to go out

620
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,760
and check my horse now and make sure he's fine,

621
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,280
and just do it as quick as I can get

622
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,760
back indoors, and you stay in here and look after

623
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,960
the dogs, which is what we did. Nothing else happened

624
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:55,199
absolutely fine. Now, about five months ago, Bye, we had

625
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,880
a friend here. We all had something betweet me, Dad

626
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,280
and the friend, and the back door kept banging, like

627
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,639
something banging on the back door, and me and Dad

628
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:10,719
had heard lots of time, so we didn't pay dake

629
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,400
a lot of notice. And the friend looked at us

630
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,719
sort of thing, but we didn't bother to say anything

631
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:22,199
because it happens. And I was thinking, Okay, well that's happened,

632
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,440
so it's going to be quiet for the rest of

633
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,400
the evening. I've got nothing to worry about, because once

634
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:33,960
it happens, normally goes quiet. But very very wrong. I

635
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,320
went out checked my horse and nothing happened, but I

636
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,599
could feel something. It wasn't that intense fhere, but I

637
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:45,360
could I was very aware of being watched. I got

638
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,400
into my bedroom with my dog, and I could feel

639
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:52,000
I was being watched. So I thought, right, put the

640
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,119
TV on, watch something really silly that you never watch,

641
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:58,039
a comedy, lighting up the atmosphere, and just try and

642
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,559
get your head away from feeling this sensation of being watched,

643
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,599
which I did, and it did not work. It didn't

644
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:12,480
work at all. And the stable door that goes out

645
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,559
into the back garden that is attached to my bedroom,

646
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,199
something crashed against that, and I remember thinking, just turn

647
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,960
TV off, turn the lights off, go to bed, and

648
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:28,840
nothing's going to happen now, because again the back doors banged,

649
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,800
that's crashed. That's going to be it now for a

650
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,239
few more nights. It is going to be fine. Go

651
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,119
into the bed. My dog was in bed with me,

652
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:45,079
and about half an hour later, I became very aware

653
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:57,599
of something standing outside my bedroom door, and something standing

654
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:01,000
outside my bedroom door, and then I could hear it,

655
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,440
and the best way of describing it is like two

656
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,480
massive hands on that door, slowly pushing it in the frame.

657
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:14,280
And I actually went to the door and I stood

658
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:19,199
the other side of it, and whatever it was seemly

659
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,239
sensed me there and it stopped, and all this time,

660
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,800
my dog, who as I've explained, can be incredibly aggressive,

661
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,039
He's laying on the bed just looking at me with

662
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,039
his eyes big, like, just leave it. Just come back

663
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:33,679
to the bed, Come back to the bed, please, and

664
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,880
just let us pretend it's not there. So, very quietly

665
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,320
I went back to the bed, sat on the bed,

666
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,360
and within seconds of me sitting in there, it was

667
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,440
like the door started to creak from pressure on the outside,

668
00:47:54,639 --> 00:48:02,039
and then it did this huge, big It wasn't a bang,

669
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:05,079
it was like a boom. It didn't open, but it

670
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:07,760
was like the door did this huge, big boom in

671
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,039
the doorframe. And then it was like this shockwave. So

672
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:15,840
the only way I can describe it, this shockwave went

673
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,159
straight through my bedroom. It was so violent it my dog.

674
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:26,960
When the boom went off, my dog sat up to

675
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:29,079
be with me, and it was like, you know, what

676
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,800
on earth is going on here? He sat up and

677
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,679
it pushed him over sideways. It knocked my owl straight

678
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,800
off his perch, just like a hand had hit him.

679
00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:43,360
And I'm you know, all these thoughts go through your head,

680
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,119
and while this is happening, I'm thinking, oh my god,

681
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:48,039
my own he's going to break a wing. He's gonna,

682
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:52,840
you know, it's gonna hurt himself. And this violence shock

683
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,559
wave went straight through my bedroom and I don't know

684
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:59,239
if it went out the open window or whether it

685
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,239
just dissolved into thin air. It went quiet for a

686
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,400
few seconds, and me and my dog are sitting there

687
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,199
and I'm thinking, oh my god, I've never never ever

688
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,480
had that, And that was, you know, far scarier than

689
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:16,320
seeing him, if that was him or whatever's going on here,

690
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,440
and the atmosphere was you really could say electric, And

691
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:27,599
within that thought I have, since all these things have

692
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:30,000
been happening, I've put this really big pair of wind

693
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:33,559
chimes up outside my open window so that if anything

694
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:35,800
walks through there, it's going to go off and I'm

695
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,199
going to be aware it's out there. Whatever it was,

696
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,159
it grabbed my window in the open frame. It pushed

697
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,960
the window in so violent that it popped back out again.

698
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,800
And then it grabbed the wood wind chimes that are

699
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,840
hanging up on the wall outside my bedroom window, and

700
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,159
it literally it grabbed them them off the wall and

701
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,519
through them about five foot down the ground. I found

702
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:07,719
them the next day, I have I think that was

703
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:13,239
the scariest moment in my life. I was terrified. I

704
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,760
really was. I was like a little girl. It was

705
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:19,960
absolutely I was worried about my owl. I was worried

706
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,599
about my dog. I was thinking whatever it was was

707
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:25,440
going to if it had been in my bedroom, if

708
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,360
that shock wave had been whatever it was, if it

709
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,800
had been in my bedroom, or whether that was the energy.

710
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,360
I'm never going to know, but it was. Honestly, I

711
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,320
was terrified, absolutely terrified, and hardly slept, hardly slept at all.

712
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:47,039
I've had something standing outside my bedroom window breathing, and

713
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:50,000
I've done a recording of that, and I can hear it,

714
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,360
but obviously I know what I'm listening to, and other people,

715
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,559
like Thig, I can't hear it. Obviously Thick believes me.

716
00:50:56,599 --> 00:51:00,360
But some people hear it, and some people aren't. The

717
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,480
people that do hear it look at me like, oh

718
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:04,840
my god, how do you sleep with that window open?

719
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:11,840
You know, all these things have happened, but nothing, I've

720
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:17,800
never been hurt by it. And I had such a

721
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:24,440
wonderful encounter with him, whereas other people have terrifying encounters,

722
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:28,559
really really terrifying encounters. And I feel like I have

723
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,639
now had this like a soul connection with him, and

724
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:40,440
I feel that my connection with him is so good

725
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:45,239
because I was born here maybe he was born here,

726
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,280
and I absolutely adore this land like he does. I

727
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,239
respect this land. I respect him. Oh literally, every time

728
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,840
I'm up those woods, I tell him I respect him.

729
00:51:58,159 --> 00:51:59,960
I thank him for looking after me and my dog

730
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,679
and let us be out there safe, and I tell

731
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,519
him I respect him. And in a way, I almost

732
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,000
feel like he's looking out for me. Now that that's

733
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:17,599
the connection I have with him, it really is incredible.

734
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:19,519
I can't say that I feel in a way. I

735
00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,679
can't say that I feel blessed because I now know

736
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:28,079
that I have what a lot of people would describe

737
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:30,840
as the ultimate monster, the monster that came out from

738
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,320
under your bed. As so many people say that isn't

739
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,320
meant to exist, and I now know does and then you,

740
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,880
as so many other people have said, if he exists,

741
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:54,119
what else exists? And exactly what else exists? But so

742
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:59,280
I have this creature that looks absolutely terrifying, you know,

743
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,559
Like I said, if he had stood up the second sight,

744
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:04,960
and I honestly believe my heart would have stopped, well,

745
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,519
I would have had a fit. It would have been

746
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,360
so terrifying, but he didn't stand up. And I believe

747
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,519
he didn't stand up because he didn't want to scare

748
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:18,239
me and because he knows I respect this place and

749
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,159
I love this place. I adore it so like I said,

750
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:26,599
it feels like the womb that I came from. And

751
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:35,039
I believe that's why he's home with me. Okay, So

752
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:46,719
probably about six years ago, this wood structure appeared. And

753
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,000
I say, no one else walks in those woods. I mean,

754
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,199
I can't say that. I can't guarantee you that, can I.

755
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,079
But I'm positive no one else walks in those woods.

756
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:02,679
There's no footbath there, and I never see other dog

757
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,599
poo there or people's footprints there, you know. So this

758
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,679
tree structure appeared, built up around a tree, and basically

759
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,360
it was branches, some of them quite big, some small,

760
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,880
and they would all be leant up against the tree.

761
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,559
And over the years, who've got bigger and bigger. And

762
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:24,320
then I started placing just little twigs or feathers in

763
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,480
this tree as a thank you, as a thank you,

764
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:32,159
and I would always thank him for letting me and

765
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:34,320
the dogs be up there safe and telling him that

766
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,239
I respect the place, and I would try and keep

767
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,880
them all safe. And this structure between me and him

768
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,239
got bigger and bigger over the years. It was probably

769
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,480
at the base ten twelve foot around, maybe even a

770
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:50,719
bit bigger on the ground, and then in places four

771
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,360
foot high, six foot high, eight foot high. It was

772
00:54:53,599 --> 00:55:00,679
really big. Last Monday, I went up there evening. It

773
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:02,480
had been a really busy day. I hadn't had a

774
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:06,920
chance to go for walk, so I took just myself

775
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:13,039
and my dog up there, and I didn't go deep

776
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:19,280
into the woods because I was sensing something and so

777
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,920
but I did go to the wood structure. I'd picked

778
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,360
up a feather on the way there, and I placed

779
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,920
it in the top of the wood structure, and I

780
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,320
thanked him for letting me be there again, keeping me

781
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:38,400
and my dog safe. And that was at walk time,

782
00:55:38,679 --> 00:55:42,920
absolutely fine, early Tuesday morning. It was going to be

783
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,039
a busy day, so I thought i'd got the woods before,

784
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:51,480
you know, we get busy on the farm. And this

785
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:54,840
really knocked me flat because I got there in mind

786
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,360
I'd been there the day of the night before. Everything fine,

787
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,280
placed a feather in the wood structure, thanked him. The

788
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,639
wood structure has completely disappeared like it has never been there.

789
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:10,639
It looks like it's just been beamed up into space.

790
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,159
It's gone. I've spent ages. I've spent two hours one

791
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,840
day and an hour another wandering around looking for pieces

792
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,880
of it. Not a single twig, not a large branch,

793
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:25,880
absolutely nothing. The feathers, the twigs, the branches, the whole

794
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,840
lot has just completely gone like it never ever was.

795
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:36,440
And it absolutely knocked me flat seeing that. I just it. Honestly,

796
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,679
I can't say because seeing this every single day and

797
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,760
then it's just gone, completely gone. Not a sign of it,

798
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:52,400
not an absolute sign. So yeah, so that's happened. And

799
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:58,960
then so I'm standing there looking at this where it was, thinking, well,

800
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:00,800
I can't see what I was thinking. I think my

801
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,280
mind went blank because I was just I could not

802
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,159
believe what I was looking at. Opposite where this tree

803
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:12,039
structure had been, I had made what I called my

804
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:18,559
own little fanking station for him, and occasionally I would

805
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,679
pick up pieces of wood with holes in it and

806
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,320
place them there, all pretty feathers. And a particular summer,

807
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,280
I had taken a piece of clay from the stream

808
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,000
and molded it into a little figure, and I placed

809
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:41,320
it in this tree as a thank you, so the

810
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,360
tree structure has completely gone. Beside. Where it was was

811
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,559
an old horn beam tree with just two tall branches

812
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:56,360
probably maybe six no four to six inches through, so

813
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,880
not massive, but big enough to you know, a person

814
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:06,199
and break them just with your hand. These two small

815
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:13,000
trees had been bent over, twisted probably five or six

816
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:17,559
foot up, just enough to make them pliable without breaking them.

817
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:23,400
They had been bent over down to the ground. At

818
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,039
the very tips of them, they've been twisted together like

819
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:31,719
someone's tied them together. And on top of that, two

820
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:38,280
pieces of silver birch, probably five foot long by six

821
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,679
maybe eight inches through, so heavy enough, there's you know,

822
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,599
they are heavy, have been placed on top of that

823
00:58:44,719 --> 00:58:48,880
to hold it down. The very tips of that whatever

824
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,199
made the very tips of those two brunches that have

825
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,800
been twisted together, very very gently. Touch that little clay

826
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:02,079
figure that I placed into that tree. Now the day before,

827
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:04,960
when i'd been the evening before, when i'd been up there,

828
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,360
that figure had been covered in leaves. There was absolutely

829
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,440
no way that anybody knew it was there, absolutely no way.

830
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,800
I remember looking at thinking maybe I should clean the

831
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:22,280
leaves off, but it's natural, it's nature, So I leave

832
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,480
the leaves on there, so absolutely no one guaranteed and

833
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:29,519
on hot I knew it was there, and there is

834
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:34,119
absolutely no way, absolutely no way a person or a

835
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,800
group of people could have removed that structure without at

836
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,079
least dropping one bit of wood anywhere. It's just completely gone,

837
00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:44,920
like it was beamed up and it was never ever there.

838
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,039
Almost coming to the end of this, but again, all

839
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:56,280
I can say is that trying to think, well, fingers

840
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,039
are waking up now there's an energy building up, and

841
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,519
I really don't want it to be like the winter

842
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:08,199
of twenty twenty three. But on the other hand, so

843
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,239
that was the winter of twenty twenty three when it

844
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,559
was really bad. I saw him again last year twenty

845
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:18,039
four and he told me not to fear him, and

846
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:25,320
I don't fear him. I believe he's some type of

847
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,920
a soul guardian for me. That's how I look at

848
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,880
him now. He looks after me and my dogs. That said,

849
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:37,880
his appearance is terrifying, absolutely terrifying. But I have to

850
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:44,079
remind myself to look inside and not just the appearance.

851
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,400
That's so much easier said than done, because you know,

852
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,280
if I'm out there doing my horse at nighttime and

853
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,480
he walked straight up to me. I believe he has

854
01:00:53,519 --> 01:00:56,280
walked straight up to me and I couldn't see him.

855
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,360
I almost fell over. I heard him walking straight up

856
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,440
to me on a very very cold, crispy night, frosty night,

857
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:06,679
walked straight up to me, and I was so frightened

858
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,320
I stepped back and almost fell over. And I could

859
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,920
feel I could feel this energy right in front of

860
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,800
my face. I was almost waiting for something to half

861
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,079
or spit in my face, and there was nothing. I

862
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:24,239
couldn't see absolutely anything anyway. So if I bump into him,

863
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,000
of course I'm going to be terrible. And if he

864
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:28,679
stands up, I think I'll have an absolute heart attack.

865
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:35,760
But I am again. I just believe that he looks

866
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:40,559
after me. He's some type of guarding of the woods

867
01:01:41,079 --> 01:01:45,199
of this land and the rivers, and he needs respect,

868
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,280
and uh yeah.

869
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: I.

870
01:01:49,719 --> 01:01:52,599
Speaker 2: Something that size you can't help, but respect you can't

871
01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:55,320
help but be scared of. But I do. I respect him,

872
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:02,039
and and there's obviously reason we have this connection. I'm

873
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:05,239
maybe meant to learn something from him, or maybe he's

874
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:10,519
learning from me the ways of us. But hm, hm say,

875
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:13,719
I feel again, I feel blessed. It's a it's a

876
01:02:13,719 --> 01:02:15,880
difficult thing to explain. I feel blessed that he's in

877
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,039
my life, but at the same time, yes, he can

878
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:24,199
be incredibly terrifying. You really could things like this. I

879
01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:30,760
think your heart could give out. It's so scary. But

880
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:38,519
I do feel that connection with him. He's just an

881
01:02:38,519 --> 01:02:42,880
incredible experience and part part of living this life that

882
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:50,400
I do here. And yeah, it's amazing, what.

883
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,719
Speaker 1: An amazing life you have. And the word amazing really

884
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,159
doesn't do it any justice. It really doesn't.

885
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's beautiful. It's say I wouldn't any

886
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,159
other way, wouldn't have it any other way at all.

887
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,239
I know I've missed out things, but there's so much,

888
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,800
so much has happened. You know. There was a particular

889
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:16,519
night I remember telling you about before that my horse

890
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,119
was absolutely terrified. He's not shut in his stable at night,

891
01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:24,639
but he has a yard that he can go in

892
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:27,239
and out of, so he can walk at night if

893
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,639
he wants, and then go straight back into his stable. Well,

894
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:33,920
one night he was absolutely terrified and hitting the gate

895
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,239
so I and snorting, like I've explained before, with this

896
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,039
noise that he does, and his eyes were bolding out

897
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:44,239
and stopped. So I shut him in his stable and

898
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,000
he was threatening to come out over the door, so

899
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:50,159
I shut the top door and he was literally climbing

900
01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:53,719
the walls and my dad came out and we ended

901
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:59,679
up spending half the night outside with shotguns. And at

902
01:03:59,719 --> 01:04:01,599
the top we both put it down to a big

903
01:04:01,639 --> 01:04:05,000
cats and you know, the horse was more likely to

904
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:08,199
frighten himself trying to get away even though he was contained.

905
01:04:09,519 --> 01:04:13,400
But now I think that my horse was probably smelling

906
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:22,199
you know this dog man, my dog man, and you know,

907
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,559
you explain it. You see something like that, and they

908
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:29,760
are They are absolutely terrifying. So what earth does a

909
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,679
horse do with his natural instincts. All he wants to

910
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:35,239
do is get away, and he will hurt himself. He

911
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,440
will hurt itself. But again I keep going back to

912
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,400
the fact that he's never hurt me or my dogs. Thankfully,

913
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,320
you know, as scary as it is, I have to

914
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:52,440
tell myself that he's never hurt me, and I don't

915
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,719
believe he will. I believe that he looks after me.

916
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,639
I don't know if he looks after me from whatever.

917
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,440
I don't know what he looks after me from the

918
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,639
other people or another dog man or what. But I

919
01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:09,599
do feel a very I have a very strong feeling

920
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:14,000
that he looks out for me, and yeah, so I

921
01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:15,800
always give my respect.

922
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,559
Speaker 1: Well, like we talked about, he's sure has had plenty

923
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:21,000
of opportunities to hurt you if you wanted to. So

924
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:24,639
I'm glad you haven't lost sight of that fact. I'm

925
01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:26,639
never going to say any of these guys are safe

926
01:05:26,679 --> 01:05:30,480
to be around, but my guys said it does count

927
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:33,119
for something, the fact he's had all these opportunities to

928
01:05:33,159 --> 01:05:35,360
harm you, but he never has.

929
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: I believe, I mean probably hundreds of thousands of times,

930
01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:42,440
he could have been walking right beside me and I

931
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,719
didn't have a clue. I've seen I know i've seen him.

932
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,960
I've described it as looking through the edge of a beveled,

933
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:57,280
beveled edged mirror, so it's like you're seeing a patch

934
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,440
move in. If that's people do describe as the from

935
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,519
the predator, and that is exactly what I've seen. And

936
01:06:05,559 --> 01:06:08,639
I've seen that three times, very close to me. But

937
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:13,079
other times I've fout him and I've you know, like

938
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:16,519
I've said, I believe these creatures could literally be walking

939
01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:20,199
beside you and you wouldn't know. You wouldn't know until

940
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,960
they choose, and they do choose to show themselves. I

941
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:30,400
don't believe it's by accident. They do choose, and there's

942
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,119
so many you know, are we ever going to know

943
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:35,440
really what they are? I've gone through so many different

944
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,360
ideas to one minute his flesh and blood, the next

945
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,480
minute of his spirit, and then I believe he's flesh

946
01:06:40,519 --> 01:06:42,679
and blood again, and I think maybe he's a bit

947
01:06:42,719 --> 01:06:44,840
of both. I think maybe his flesh and blood with

948
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:49,199
different gifts of being able to do do things like

949
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:57,400
disapine from your eyes and and mind talk. And I

950
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,320
don't know if we'll ever really know what they are.

951
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:00,920
Maybe we're not meant to. I don't know.

952
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: Well, they definitely have a lot of moving parts, so

953
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:07,960
I think there's a strong possibility we never will, but

954
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,559
I guess time will tell. Well, we're over an hour

955
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:15,239
into this, Daisy, I've got a ton of questions for you.

956
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:17,559
Would you be up for coming back for a part two?

957
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: For a Q and A definitely, Yeah. It's always interesting

958
01:07:22,159 --> 01:07:25,519
hearing other people's ideas and views. I think that's really

959
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:28,320
good because I learned from them, and they learned from me,

960
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,840
and we all learn from you.

961
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,679
Speaker 1: You know, well that's great. Yeah, if you've benefit from

962
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:37,320
having questions thrown at you, well I've got plenty of

963
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,960
questions to throw at you, so I think this will

964
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:40,519
be a win.

965
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,559
Speaker 2: Win, Okay, right, we're trying and do that then, yes.

966
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: All right, well yeah, if that's the key, I'll get

967
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,199
with you to schedule that recording for part two in

968
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,719
we'll take it from there. But like I told you before,

969
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,000
thanks again so much for coming on to share these

970
01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:58,840
experiences with us. I really appreciate.

971
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:04,599
Speaker 2: It pleasure because again, it's just it's so interesting and

972
01:08:04,639 --> 01:08:07,480
we will all help each other, you know. I mean,

973
01:08:07,639 --> 01:08:11,159
I feel so sorry for the people that have terrifying

974
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:16,800
encounters because they really must be absolutely terrifying when you

975
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:21,920
have a bad encounter. I just I can't say enough

976
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:27,760
that I'm incredibly blessed to have him with me how

977
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,520
he is, because if he hadn't been like that, I

978
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,479
would have lost lost my freedom and been in fear

979
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,279
for my animals and everything. You know, It's like you say,

980
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:43,359
you can never guarantee really how it's going to be,

981
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:48,079
but thankfully I am. You know, I believe mine's okay

982
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,399
with me anyway.

983
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,359
Speaker 1: Well, if he isn't OK, even he's a lot better

984
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:56,840
than he could be, so thank goodness for that. But

985
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,159
like I said, thanks again so much for coming on,

986
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:01,520
and of course I'm looking forward to this part two.