Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
Today is the third day that the jury is deliberating
in the Gallaine Maxwell trial and we all are waiting
for the verdict now. As we do that, we're going
to dive into an article this morning from The Daily
Beast about some of the bombshells that we have heard
throughout the testimony leading us up to this point. So
it's a relatively long article, so we're just gonna dive
right in now. Like I said, this article is from
the Daily Beast. The headline flights with Trump, pregnancy picks
and latex costumes the biggest bombshells from Glaine Maxwell's trial.
The author of this article is Kate Bricklett, and shout
out to Kate for doing a great job throughout this
whole entire thing. She's been very consistent with her reporting
and one of the very very few, honestly, who has
remained consistently good throughout this whole entire ordeal. So make
sure you go and give Kate a follow on like
social media or you know, follower work on the Daily
Beast or whatever. But she definitely deserves a tip of
the cap for the fantastic job she has done here,
and you know she has been very uh fairer in
her reporting. Let's remember that it was The Daily Beast
that broke the story about Gleainne Maxwell's nephew, Alexander Derossi
working for Hillary Clinton State Department. So you know, Kate
has done very good work here and it's always a
joy to add one of her articles to the catalog.
So with that said, let's take a look. Glenn Maxwell's
sex trafficking trial wrapped up earlier than expected, with testimonies
spanning twelve days rather than the anticipated six weeks. The
defense called only eight witnesses on Thursday and Friday before
resting its case. The socialite co conspirator general all around scusbag,
who turned sixty on Christmas Day, is accused of recruiting
teenage girls for Jeffrey Epstein, the late multi millionaire pedophile,
and her former boyfriend, allegedly to sexually exploit through massages
in the nineteen nineties and early two thousands. She also
was accused of abusing some victims herself. She is pleaded
not guilty and denied any involvement with Epstein's crimes. You know,
It's funny. You would think that if you didn't have
anything to do with Epstein's crimes, that you would have
come out right away after Epstein was arrested and gave
a full account of what occurred. No, I didn't do this.
I wasn't involved in that. I certainly didn't hurt anybody.
In fact, I was a victim myself. But there was
never any of that, was there. The only time that
we start hearing about, oh, I'm a victim is when
the hammer starts to swing down, and then she's in
legal jeopardy. Now she's a victim. Anything to try and
wiggle off of the hook. There is nothing, no plan,
no plot that Glenn Maxwell wouldn't get involved in to
try and stay out of trouble. The Jerry began deliberating
late in the afternoon on Monday after closing arguments, and
will resume their discussions on Wednesday morning. Prosecutors called twenty
four witnesses in ten days, including the four victims listed
in the indictment against Maxwell, who were as young as
fourteen when Epstein molested them. Two accusers testified under the
pseudonyms Jane and Kate. A third, Carolyn, used her first
name and the last Annie Farmer, was identified by her
full name. The women described Maxwell as the financier pedophiles
chief accomplice who recruited them into his teenage sex ring,
groomed them, and facilitated the abuse at his homes around
the world. Now, with all that we know leading up
to this, and then the testimony that we heard, how
in the world could there be any other verdict besides
a guilty one. Now again, I will not be shocked
no matter what happens. If there's a not guilty verdict
on all accounts, I would shake my head and you know,
accept the fact that that's just how the government is, right,
It's just the way it goes. But I think that
in this in this situation, I think that there's going
to be enough to convict. And it's probably just my
cynicism talking when I say, oh boy, there's a you know,
the she's gonna walk or anything like that. When I
get those doubts, it's probably just my cynicism speaking. But
I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't
put anything past the federal government. And when it comes
to situations like this, court cases and until something is
locked and loaded and you have a verdict. Anything is
possible in the America injustice system when you're dealing with
the elite. Now, if it was you or I on trial,
this would be a done deal, a wrap, and we
would have been under the prison already. But you have
to factor in the added little piece that Glenn Maxwell
is part of the you know, the big club, as
George Carlin was so fond of saying. The trial shed
new light on the bond between Epstein and Maxwell, the
life of luxury they enjoyed while allegedly abusing girls from
broken homes or whose family struggled financially, and the supposed
code of silence they imposed on their employees. Here were
some of the trial's biggest bombshells. Victim Jane said Maxwell
and Epstein abused her during group sex. Now think about
that for a minute. What sort of sick, disgusting, demented
people do you have to be to bring a fourteen
year old into your sexual your group sexual romp. There's
no redeeming factors for people that would do anything like that.
There's no fixing people like that. The first victim to testify, Jane,
said that when Epstein and Maxwell began abusing her when
she was only fourteen in nineteen ninety four. Maxwell seemed
very casual and like it was very normal and not
a big deal. That's because of the normalization process, right
when you go back and you look at the grooming
and how all of this comes into play. You have
to have it normalized first for these girls to accept
what's going on. And that's a critical role that Maxwell played.
The couple allegedly began to train her sexually and include
her in group sexual encounters with other adult women. Jane
shared the first names of several women who allegedly participated
in group sexual encounters with her when she was underage, Eva,
Sophie Michelle, and a British woman named Emmy. Jane claims
Maxwell and Epstein recruited her when she was attending the
prestigious interlock In summer camp, where Epstein was a donor
and had use of a scholarship lodge when he visited
the Michigan School every year. Not only did he have
use of the lodge, he had his name on the lodge.
He was donating so much money there that they put
his name on the lodge. Think about that for a minute.
This monster had access to that lodge at this school
with all them kids running around. Now that's not to
say he was, you know, on this campus using it
as a fertile hunting ground, if you will. But the
just idea that somebody like this could have access to
all of these children with a location right on the
school property is just beyond the pall. Jane told Jurrors
she had just lost her father to cancer and was
living with her mother and siblings and a family friend's poolhouse.
According to Jane, Epstein paid for her voice lessons, private
school in New York, and other bills her mother couldn't afford.
When she first visited the pool at Epstein's Florida estate,
she saw at least four women in Galaine, all topless
and some of them were naked. Again, the normalization of
it all, from the time you walk in till the
time you leave. This is how we do things here.
And if you want to be part of this crew,
if you want to be part of this upper crust
world and society, you're gonna have to play the game.
And that's how these operations they kick in. Right they
get these girls there, they see the other girls and women,
A lot of them seem to be highbrow, and these
young girls from broken homes they think, well, hey, this
is how the other side lives, I guess, and before
you know it, it's just normalized behavior to them. Kate
said Maxwell forced her to wear a schoolgirl uniform. Forty
four year old British woman testified that Maxwell began grooming
her when she was seventeen and nineteen ninety four, Kate
met Maxwell during a trip to Paris with her boyfriend,
who was an Oxford classmate and to socialite. Maxwell, who
was in her thirties, invited Kate to tea at her
London townhouse weeks later. I was quite excited to be
friends with her, Kate testified, adding I felt that I
had found a new connection that could really be meaningful
to me. First rule, don't go and drink tea with
anyone who invites you to go and drink tea. It's
kind of creepy, right, Oh yeah, why don't you come
over and have a cup of tea with me? What?
No stranger danger? I mean, I don't get it. Like again,
maybe it's just my view of the world and how
jaded I've become with things. But zero chance that I'd
be engaging with some stranger that I met on the street.
I don't care if she's posh or not. I mean,
now I'm cool. I'll pass on coming get some tea
at your house. Who just invites somebody over to their
house for tea that they just meet. It's just it's
all weird to me, right, The whole scene is just
weird to me. But that friendship turned dark. Kate testified
after Maxwell introduced her to Epstein and urged her to
give him massages that quickly turned sexual. She said that
she needed massages all the time and it was very
difficult to keep up. Kate said, when she was eighteen,
Maxwell and Epstein invited her to Palm Beach, where Maxwell
allegedly directed her to wear a schoolgirl costume. According to Kate,
Maxwell handed her a tray of tea and directed her
to serve the money manager pedophile, who then engaged in
a sex act with her. She asked me if I
had fun and told me that I was such a
good girl and that I was one of his favorites,
Kate said. Because Kate was of the age of consent
in the UK during the pattern of abuse, jurors were
instructed that she's not a victim as charged in the indictment.
So again, just because she was the age of consent,
how is it that this guy is not charged with abuse.
I mean, obviously you're he was grooming them. Obviously there
was other things going on. And if you can't get
them for the age of consent, right because she's at age,
there gotta be another way to go about Noll in
his ass. I mean, if he was in the mafia,
they would have found a way. Right. How did they
get al Capone? Certainly wasn't all the murders and all
the mayhem. They got them on tax evasion. And at
the end of the day, I really don't care what
you put somebody in prison for, as long as they
go to prison when they deserve it. Carolyn told Epstein
and Maxwell she was too young to travel with them.
The Florida woman told jurors that she was molested by
Epstein from the age of fourteen to eighteen, when she
became too old for the sex predator, who eventually asked
her if she had had any younger friends. Carolyn testified
from two thousand and one to two thousand and four.
Maxwell would help schedule her massage sessions and greet her
in the kitchen. When she showed up, she would just
let me know. Mister Epstein would be in the back
he was on a jog, or he'd be back any moment.
Carolyn said, I could go upstairs and set up. Carolyn
said she confided in Epstein and Maxwell about trauma in
her past. Her grandfather raped her and molested her starting
when she was four, and her mother was addicted to
drugs and alcohol. She added that the couple knewer age
because they had invited her to visit Epstein's US Virgin
Islands compound. She told Maxwell that I was too young
and there is no way in hell my mom was
going to let me leave the country. Despite this, Carolyn
claims Maxwell continued booking the massage sessions and even groped
her one day when she was setting up the massage table.
She came in and felt my boobs and my hips
and my buttocks and said that I had a great
body for miss Epstein and his friends. So all of
the testimony that these girls gave it all was leaning
in the same direction of what Maxwell was up to
and what she was doing, what her role was here,
and the fact that she was the comfort zone for
these girls, the one that you know, they'd show up
and they'd feel a lot more secure with Maxwell there
as opposed to just showing up in Epstein hanging out
in a robe. It goes to show, at least they
hope the jurors. The crucial role that Maxwell played within
all of this. Annie Farmer said she was forced to
give Epstein a foot rub when Max before Maxwell groped her.
Now forty two, Farmer recalled a nightmarish weekend alone with
Epstein and Maxwell in New Mexico, a trip her mother
believed would be an academic gathering for twenty to twenty
five students. She was a sixteen year old girl. The
couple were in their thirties and forties, and they took
her shopping into a movie theater, where she said, Epstein
right away began to hold my hand and caress it
and rub on my foot and on my arm. I mean,
it's like, what are you like, fifteen sixteen? You get
you you're on your first date at the movie theater
and you go right in to grab a little handholding.
The dude was just wired, completely fucked up. Jeffrey Epstein
was one of the most disgusting, heinous human beings in
the history of the world in my opinion, and anyone
who acts like they had no idea what he was
up to when they were hanging around him, they're lying,
that is my honest opinion. When they returned to Epstein's ranch,
Maxwell taught Farmer how to give Epstein a foot massage.
He seemed, you know, to be enjoying it, Farmer's testified,
adding that he made groaning noises. Asked how asked how
she felt about it, Farmer said, I felt very uncomfortable.
I did not want to be touching his feet. Maxwell
then asked Farmer if she'd had professional massage before and
offered to give her one. Farmer said. They went to
her guest room, where Maxwell set up a table and
told her to get undressed. Farmer took off her clothes
and laid face down under his sheet before Maxwell began
rubbing her legs and making small talk. But according to Farmer,
Maxwell then directed her to turn over and pulled the
sheet down before groping her chest. Farmer said she was
frozen and wanted badly to get off the table and
have this massage be done. Farmer added that the door
to the room was open, and she sensed that Epstein
could see her. So while she's being molested engroped by
sick ass Galay, Maxwell old Jeffrey Epstein's disgusting asses standing
in the hallway watching these people are absolutely debed. Maxwell
allegedly warned Epstein's butler never to look him in the eye.
In some of the trial's most explosive testimony, Epstein's former
pom Beach butler, Juana Lessi, described how his responsibilities included
cleaning up the financier pedophiles massage rooms, rinsing off sex toys,
and restocking them in Maxwell's bathroom closet, which also held
pornographic tapes and a black vinyl or leather black costume.
I mean, when I hear that, I think about in
American horror story, the dude that shows up in the
leather outfit in the murder house and starts killing people.
That's what I think about when I think of hear
about a black vinyl or leather black costume. I mean, really,
He also stocked Epstein's vehicles with one hundred dollars bills. Victims,
including Carolyn, testified that Epstein paid her cash and that denomination. Well,
they had to have the hundi's in the car, right,
Epstein had to be able to pay people. And you know,
if they found a new bile that they wanted to swoop,
they had to have a few hundis so that they
could make off and say that they were, you know,
just buying prostitutes. That was the alibi, that weak ass,
transparent ass alibi, and the federal government and the state
government went for it straight garbage. These are little girls
that he's paying to have sex with, not prostitutes. UNLESSI
testified that he saw many, many, many females visit Epstein's
lair and often saw topless young women lounging by the pool.
He said he knew two of Epstein's young visitors were
underage at the time. He also detailed how Maxwell ordered
him in the other staff to follow a fifty eight
page household manual with seemingly endless checklists of tasks at
Epstein's Florida mansion, including and sharing a gun, was placed
in the bedside table of the master bedroom. The booklet
contained directives such as remember that you see nothing, hear nothing,
say nothing except to answer a question directed at you.
It's like the monkeys right here, see nothing, say nothing.
That's what it was like to work with for Jeffrey Epstein.
Huh asked about this rule, a lessie testified it means
a kind of warning that I was supposed to be blind, deaf,
and dumb to say nothing of their lives. The documents
order also stated, unless otherwise instructed, never disclosed mister Epstein
or Miss Maxwell's activities or whereabouts to anyone, and advised
Miss Maxwell of any strange phone calls or inquiries. So
again it goes to the point of Maxwell being the
head honcho here. Why would he be reporting to Maxwell
if she wasn't the one with her feet at the controls.
Why would he be reporting to Maxwell if she wasn't
the one making the decisions. So, of course Glayne Maxwell
played a key role here. Alessi, who worked for Epstein
from nineteen ninety one to two thousand and two, said
the manual involved an incredible amount of war and was
very degrading to me. He said Maxwell once told him
never to look Epstein in the eyes when addressing him.
The ex house manager said he typically worked from five
am to nine or ten PM, a job he later
described as slavery. When defense lawyer Jeff Pagliucca suggested suggested
none of the female messus has complained about being hurt
or coerced into doing anything unless, he replied, No, they
never did, But I wish they would have, because I
would have done something to stop it. Yeah, okay. Everybody
wants to be the hero in their own story, right
I would, I could, I should have. The fact of
the matter is you didn't. You didn't do anything want
a LESSI. You let this happen, just like the rest
of them. You knew the deal, you knew what Epstein was,
but you still let this happen while you were there. Boy,
I gotta tell you what, if I was in a
LESSI shoes forget it, I would have no chance. I'd
work for somebody like this. I mean, are you kidding
me right now? Yeah, I'm sure. When you first get hired,
it seems like a dream job. Then you start to
figure out what's going on, and you don't run for
the hills. You stay there for ten years. Says a
lot about a LESSI. Honestly, Trump, Clinton and Mike Wallace
were among Epstein's famous pals. Former Epstein pilot Larry Vasoski
named several VIPs who flew on the Financier Pedophiles private jet,
including Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, Printon Britain's Prince Andrew,
superstar violinist It'sak Pearlman, actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker,
former Senator George Mitchell, and former senator and astronaut John Glenn.
Asked if Robert Kennedy Junior took a jount on Epstein's plane,
Vasaski said he didn't recall. So we knew about all
of that stuff, right, We knew about all of those
people on that plane. None of that's really that new
in the overall story or picture of the story. But
one thing is interesting. Up until recently, we had only
heard of one flight by Trump on the plane with Epstein.
Now there are several more. So again, as you peel
back the layers, more of the onion is exposed. And
just like with Bill Clinton, I'm not gonna sit here
and say that, you know, oh yeah, Donald Trump was
engaging in abusing children with Jeffrey Epstein. That's certainly not
what I'm saying. What I'm saying is he certainly enabled
Jeffrey Epstein for years and years and years while they
were friends. And it's not even debatable. And I know
there's zelots out there right, people who are absolutely zealous
about their politician. Oh he's my favorite. He could never
do anything like that, breaking news. All your favorite politicians
are scumbags, Okay, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, all
of them. And it's not even close to a conversation
to think that Donald Trump wasn't hanging out with Jeffrey
Epstein on a regular basis. These dudes were tight. The
defense took pains to introduce other high profile names, asking
witnesses throughout the trial about Victoria's secret mogul, Les Wexner.
Manhattan billionaire couple Glenn and Eva Dubin recently under fire
over their decades long friendship with Epstein and Maxwell's former flame,
multimillionaire Gateway co founder Ted Waite. Jane said Epstein and
Maxwell often bragged about high powered friends, including Trump, Clinton,
and the late TV reporter Mike Wallace. They would sort
of name dropper or sometimes put people on speakerphone whose
voices I didn't know, and then say, oh, this was
so and so Jane told jurors, adding that the couple
would say that they were very well connected and affluent.
And again it goes back to what I always talk
about with the legacy media. You gotta remember that Mike
Wallace was a very powerful man within the media for
a very long time. And the fact that he's hobnobbing
around with Jeffrey Epstein, you don't think that he has
other friends in the media. You don't think that he helped
to squash some of these stories about Epstein that were
coming out. Of course he did. Why do you think
Epstein hung out with people in the media. Everything that
Epstein did him and Maxwell, it was because it was
planned out. There were a lot of things, but tactically
they were very very smart. Jane added that during a
visit to New York when she was fifteen, she's saying
happy birthday to Wallace at his eightieth birthday party. Epstein
also allegedly introduced her to Trump during his visit to
mar A Lago resort in Palm Beach. I mean, isn't
that nice, Hey, Donald Trump, buddy, ol buddy old Palamne.
Why don't you meet my fourteen year old friend? Yeah,
but you know, everything was just kosher and normal. Nobody
knew anything about what was going on. Carolyn believed Maxwell
was once pregnant. Now, this was one that caught me
off guard too. I had never heard anything about Maxwell
being pregnant, so if there was a pregnancy, that certainly
is something new to me. Throughout the trial, Maxwell's legal
team asked witnesses, including Vesasky and fellow pilot David Rodgers,
about whether they'd ever seen the socialite pregnant before they
said no. The queries and apparently an attempt to discredit Carolyn,
who previously told the government of seeing a photo of
an expectant Maxwell in Epstein's Florida home. When Pagliuca asked
Carolyn about the image, she replied nude and pregnant laying
on the before he cut her off. There were multiple pictures,
nude photos. Carolyn later added, So again, I've never heard
anything about a pregnant Glenn Maxwell. So if there is
not a picture like that, then of course the defense
is going to use that to help bolster their argument
that Marilyn misremembered that she was lying that you know,
she's not telling the truth, So they'll definitely try and
use that for sure. Epstein's assistants were Maxwell fangirls. Yeah,
we all know that because Maxwell was the underboss. Right
if we're talking about it like the mafia. Okay, this
is an easy way to understand it. Jeffrey Epstein the godfather,
Glenn Maxwell the under boss, John Luke Brunel, the consiglieri,
and then the core four Kellen Groff, Ross Marsenkova. Those
are like the capos, right, and then that's your whole
leadership structure. There two defense witnesses, former Epstein employees, Kimberly
Espinoza and Michelle Healy, shared glowing memories of Maxwell, and
while they both met the victim known as Jane in
the nineties, they testified that they believed she was an adult.
Espinosa said Epstein's office initially hired her as a legal assistant,
but that Maxwell quickly recruited her to become a full
time executive assistant. I highly respected Glane, Espinosa testified. I
looked up to her very much. Espinosa added that she
kept in touch with Maxwell even after leaving for another
opportunity in two thousand and two, and that Maxwell got
her a job interview with wit with Waite and allowed
her to stay at her London town home three years
ago during a vacation to Europe. Espinosa, who hasn't commented
publicly about her ties to Epstein and Maxwell before, was
accused in a victim's lawsuit of arranging Epstein's massage sessions
with a teenage victim in New York. And that's really
the crux of this right And what is so frustrating
to people who have been following this case forever because
the scope is so small here. All of these people
that were booking these massages of these girls should be
caught up in a rico case, but instead we have
this small scope and we give them wiggle room. And
the blame for that has to lay right directly at
the feet of Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice.
The dude is a wet noodle. I can't believe people
were pining for this guy to be on the Supreme Court.
He is an absolutely atrocious Attorney General. We're talking Bill
Barr level atrocious. Healy, who was a receptionist for Epstein
from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety nine, said that
Jane looked like a grown up to me because she
had a lot of makeup on. Yeah, because that makes
you a grown up, because you have a lot of
makeup on. The insanity of it all, folks, the insanity
of it all. And that's the excuse for all of
these people that were around them, right. Ah, she looked
old enough to me. Oh she had big breasts. Oh
she was wearing a lot of makeup. A lot of excuses,
but yet not anyone held accountable of Maxwell. Helly gush
that the socialite co conspirator was a fantastic boss. She
taught me a lot, heally said. I respected her. She
was tough, but she was great. Oh yeah, great at
being an absolute scumbag. Financial records revealed Maxwell received millions
from Epstein. The government called Patrick McHugh, an executive at
JP Morgan, to testify about million dollar transfers from Epstein
to Maxwell. In October of nineteen ninety nine, Epstein sold
eighteen point three million dollars worth of shares in a
money market fund, then transferred the cash to one of
Maxwell's accounts. Bank records also showed Epstein wired five million
to Maxwell in September two thousand and two. In June
two thousand and seven, according to Mcheugh's testimony, Epstein wired
seven point four million to an account for Maxwell. That
account then transferred seven point three to five million to
two when account for air Glane Incorporated, which wired the
funds to Sekorski Aircraft in Connecticut to buy a helicopter.
So again, ill gotten gains right being transferred amongst co
conspirators is exactly what Rico was made for. And I'm
gonna keep saying it until you're tired of me yelling
about it, until you don't want to hear the word
Rico anymore, until you start calling me Uncle Rico. Because
I don't even understand how the prosecution can wake up
in the morning and look themselves in the mirror knowing
they're leaving all of this out there on the table.
Sarah Kellen, an alleged co conspirator, was repeatedly named but
never testified when Epstein secured his controversial two thousand and
eight plea deal. The document granted an immunity to potential
co conspirators, including Sarah Kellen, Leslie Groth, Adrianna Ross, and
Nadio marson Kova. From day one, however, Kellen's name has
haunted the trial. In her opening remarks, Sternham noted that
Carolyn twice sued Epstein and Kellen, but her complainant didn't mention.
Maxwell Vsasky indicated he spoke to Kellen, an assistant for Epstein,
the most when it came to scheduling the financier Pedophiles flights.
The defense also asked fellow pilot Rogers whether Kellen took
over as Epstein's main assistant in two thousand and one,
and when Fed's presented evidence of FedEx's invoices, Kellen was
listed as the center of a package to underage Carolyn. So,
I know what you're saying to yourselves right now, How
in the hell is Sarah Kellen Vickers not indicted here?
How is she not being brought up on charges? And
it's a question that all of us are asking because
the fact that she was so intimately involved here, the
fact that she had her fingerprints over so many different
pieces of evidence here is just my numbing. And she
goes on to live her jets atter's life with her
NASCAR husband. Huh. During a charging conference on Saturday, defense
lawyer Christian Everdell referred to individuals who we normally may
have considered calling as a witness, but who the government
clearly could have charged criminally based on the testimony we heard.
And I won't name names if we don't want to
do that, but I think we probably know who we're
talking about here. Everdell continued, he said that if we
tried to call that witness or those witnesses, they undoubtedly
would have invoked their Fifth Amendment rights. I'm happy to
say the name. Everdell said, it's Sarah Kellen And think
about that for a minute. This lady is able to
avoid being under oath once again. And it all comes
back to that non prosecution agreement. You want to talk
about throwing a wrench into the situation. It's the only
thing that's keeping people like Sarah Kellen Vickers from being
in prison right now, and it's something that needs to
be overturned. And I really hope that when the Supreme
Court gets a look at it, they take the case
and they overturn it because Sarah Kellen Vickers and the
rest of the Corps for they all need to be
brought up on charges. And I'm going to be posting
a seven part series about the Corps. Four and the
women who enabled Epstein. Maxwell announced she wouldn't testify and
again proclaimed her innocence on Friday, before the defense rested
its case, Nathan asked Maxwell whether she intended to testify.
I want to make sure that you know that the
decision whether to testify or not is your. Is your decision.
You are entitled to the best advice of your attorneys
in making this decision, but the decision is yours, Miss Maxwell.
Do you understand that your honor said Miss Maxwell, who
stood up with her lawyers, the government has not proven
its case beyond a reasonable doubt, and there is no
need for me to testify. Well, I don't know about that.
I mean, I think that if Maxwell really wanted to
bolster her case and prove that she was innocent, she
would have testified here. But I guess we'll see what
occurs with the verdict, because maybe her lawyers do know
what they're doing. Epstein's Miss Sweden ex girlfriend testified for Maxwell,
but couldn't remember much. She was worthless on the stand, honestly,
and what it does is just shine more spotlight on
her and Glenn Dubin for their role in all of this. Honestly,
Eva Anderson Dubin, a former Miss Sweden and doctor who
dated Epstein in the eighties and early nineties, was the
defense witnessed last Friday. The decision to call Dubin raised eyebrows,
as she and her billionaire husband Glenn have faced scrutiny
over their ties to Epstein in the wake of his death.
The Dubin stood by Epstein after he pleaded guilty to
soliciting a minor in Florida and served I'm in a
Palm Beach County jail for decades. They welcomed Epstein around
their children, who called him Uncle e F Uncle Jeffy.
How disturbing is all of that? Imagine having your children
around Jeffrey Epstein and then calling him uncle e F.
Dubin testified that she didn't recall meeting Jane or flying
a flying with her on Epstein's plane. She also said
she never saw a troubling behavior from Epstein toward minor girls, but,
as the prosecution pointed out, Dubin lately has encountered memory
problems because of a medical issue. Sometimes I can't remember
things from last month, Dubin told jurors. My family notices it,
so why even bring her up on the stand, waste
of time, and again it just puts more spotlight on
her and her family. Other Epstein survivors showed up to
watch the trial. Several accusers who aren't victims in the
government's case, including Sarah Ransom, dropped in to watch the
Federal from what dropped in to watch from the f
Federal Courts overflow rooms, where a video feed broadcast the
proceedings on computer screens. Attorney Brad Edwards, who represented victims
of the Financier Pedophile for more than a decade, showed
up with Jennifer Callen, a woman who's never told her
story about her thirteen years of abuse while allegedly trapped
in Epstein's world. Jen Callen was enslaved in Epstein's sex
trafficking organization for thirteen years, was forced into a marriage,
and is trying to put her life together. She realizes
people are sticking their necks out and testifying and wants
them to know that they're not alone. Edwards told The
Daily Beast, this is someone who essentially held captive for
years in the trafficking operation. Edwards said, I mean the
absolute darkness and sadness surrounding this whole thing just can't
be talked about enough. All of the poor people who
have been caught up in this, and remember we have
only heard from a few. There are so many un
girls and victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his cohorts that
I can't even begin to think about how many are
out there. Maxwell's family showed up, but not her secret husband.
For her part, Maxwell hasn't been without support. Her siblings,
Kevin and Isabelle, were in the front row, alongside her
friend and attorney LEAs Safian. Kevin Maxwell addressed a flock
of press outside the courthouse in the trials first week, saying, personally,
it gave me a tremendous sense of relief to be
close to her, to actually be able to see her
in the flesh, even to be able to speak with her.
Kevin then referenced his family's complaint filed with the United
Nations last month over her conditions at Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center.
We respect the criminal justice system and process in this country,
and as a result, we are not going to make
any other further comments. While attending court, Kevin said Maxwell's
supposed husband, Scott Borgerson, was nowhere to be seen. The
Daily Mail reported he He's been spotted with a new
love interest instead, a forty nine year old yoga instructor
and local journalist in Manchester by the Sea, Massachusetts. And
back to the complaints about her conditions, I mean, really,
the conditions in jailed, what are they supposed to be?
You know, five star conditions? You know, really had a
bad time in jail. Khalif Browner and I did a
series on him as well. I'm going to post that
soon too, because it gives you an idea of the
ridiculousness of Maxwell's complaints when you put it up next
to somebody who was actually being abused by the system.
Government released never before seen photos of Epstein's homes and
of Maxwell giving him a foot rub midflight. Dozens of
government exhibits provided an insider look at Epstein's mansions in
Palm Beach and New York, with images of massage rooms,
sex toys, artwork, and framed photographs of young women throughout
his office. Many photo depicted Epstein and Maxwell in happier days,
hugging and kissing and even posing at a lunch hut
at Queen Elizabeth's Balmoral castle, but some images were creepy
showing Maxwell giving Epstein bare feet a massage on his
private jet as their buddy and accused predator Jean Luke
Brunell looks on. During summations on Monday, Prosecutor Alison Moe
said one photo showed Maxwell massaging Epstein's foot with her breasts.
In another picture, apparently released to the jury but not
the public, Maxwell and Epstein were nude in a swimming pool.
Well that's a picture I'm glad that we haven't gotten
to see. Certainly don't want to see that. Maxwell's lawyer
blurted out victim's real names in court. Gasps were heard
in the court room overflow room when defense attorney Jeff Pagliuca,
while cross examining Alessi, said Jane's real first name in court.
The government immediately called for a sidebar, during which, according
to court transcripts, Pagliuca said his suppose blunder was completely unintentional.
Prosecutor Marine Comy then said, your honor, given that mister
Pagliuca represented that he had prepared to cross examine this
witness on his testimony, I think we need to have
a plan going forward for how to make sure this
does not happen again, because clearly mister Pagliuca has not
prepared enough. The witness herself did the same thing. It happens.
Judge Nathan answered, my perception was that it was an accident.
Pagliuca then vowed it won't happen again. But later on
in the trial, Pagliuca said the last name of the victim, Carolyn,
perhaps twice. A Daily Beast reporter heard him say her
surname after lunch on December seventh, while a reporter from
Inner City Press documented another blurt of the victim's name
hours earlier. So they were they've been scummy the whole time, right,
And I think it was intentional looking to dox the victims,
make it harder on them. We know that's how the
defense likes to roll anyway, So he can say it's
an accident, and you know, how can you prove it's not.
Maxwell allegedly wrote a third person essay about a relationship
with Epstein. After the Feed seized hard drives found in
Epstein's Manhattan home, they discovered a trove of word documents
created by a user named g Max. On one file
created in October two thousand and two was a third
person essay about Epstein and Maxwell's romance. During closing arguments,
More quoted from the narrative, which read, Jeffrey and Glaine
have been together a couple for the last eleven years.
They are a contrary to what many people think, rarely apart.
I almost always see them together. The document concluded. Jeffrey
and Glane compliment each other really, really well, and I
cannot imagine one without the other. On top of being
great partners, they are also the best of friends. Uh
what a couple for eleven years? Great partners, rarely apart,
best of friends? Does that sound like a personal assistant?
Compartmentalized from Jeffrey Epstein's life motol Jurors adding, when you're
with someone for eleven years, you know what they like.
Epstein liked underage girls. He liked to touch underage girls.
Maxwell knew it. Defense lawyer Laura Meninger, however, argued that
other people had access to Maxwell's computer. What on earth
makes the government think that Glaine Maxwell was writing an
essay about herself and the third person with Jeffrey Epstein,
she said the FBI Menainger added, wants to just say this,
This is Glaine Maxwell's document because it's got her name
in the metadata. Please, well, how else would you know
if it's hers or not? I mean, if the name's
in the metadata, wouldn't that make it hers? Ah, maybe
it's Santa Claus's. Maybe Santa Claus snuck in and he
did a little extra writing in Glaine Maxwell's computer files.
Epstein lavish gifts on his former pilot, whose daughter rode
horses with Maxwell. Vasaski testified that Epstein gave him forty
acres of land from his ten thousand acre New Mexico
ranch property so he could build a house. And he
didn't charge you for that land Everdell last, to which
Vasaski replied, no, he did not. Vasaski also said that
he has two daughters whose private high school and college
tuition were funded by Epstein. It's all payoff money. Why
do you think Vasaski didn't have anything to say. He
was bought this shit so he'd shut his yap and
he's done his job. Well now, once he gets through this,
he'll never have to worry again. He'll be able to
just live his life with all of the ill gotten
gains he got from Jeffrey Epstein. Again, where is the rico?
So fair to say Epstein took an interest in seeing
your young daughter succeed. Isn't that right? Everdell continued, Vassoski answered,
that's correct. He believed in higher education and later confirmed
he didn't believe Epstein or Maxwell had any ulterior motives.
With regard to his children, Vasaski said his teen and
preteen daughters spent time with Maxwell on Epstein's New Mexico
property and they went horseback riding together. Well, no shit,
they did. You were in on it, buddy, You were
part of the scam. You were part of the criminal operation.
Larry Vassoski another guy who should have been indicted. Another
reason why I've said from the beginning the prosecution has
been spinning their wheels. People they're calling up as witnesses
should have been indicted. Vsaski claimed he would have quit
his job, which he held from ninety one to twenty nineteen,
had he known Epstein prayed on underage girls. Asked about Jane,
Vessoski testified that he never thought she was underage. He
said when he met her, she was just a mature
woman with some piercing powder blue eyes, and he would
quit his job as it really so what happened when
Epstein got busted the first time, that wasn't enough to
make you quit your job. Huh. You know, folks, one
thing that you can be sure of is everybody who
was in Epstein's web is an absolute liar. So there
you have it, folks, some of the bombshells that we
have taken away from this so far as this whole
entire thing has unfolded. Now we are in a holding
pattern as we await the verdict from the jury. So
what I'm going to do today is I'm going to
add some more context episodes. Like I said, I have
a series about the women who enable Jeffrey Epstein. I'm
gonna post that. And I'm also going to post the
Cleaf Browder episode I was talking about because I feel
like it's relevant considering all of the complaints with Maxwell
and her accommodations in jail. So I'll be around all day, folks,
waiting to hear that verdict, and the second we have something,
I'll hop back on and I'll get an episode ready
to go. So I hope that all of you have
a great day up until then. And then uh yeah,
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description box. What's up everyone, and welcome back to the
Epstein Chronicles. Well, after three days of jur deliberations, we
still do not have a verdict, folks, and we won't
have a verdict before Christmas. The jury and the court
stated today that the jurors will begin their Christmas break
starting today and they will not be utilizing Thursday tomorrow
as another deliberation day. Instead, they will go home for
the Christmas break, the holidays, and come back on December
twenty seventh to pick things back up and try and
come to a verdict. Now, well, I would think that
the longer it goes on, the happier about things the
defense would have to be right. It would mean that
the jurors are, you know, trying to figure some things
out in that jurors room, trying to maybe convince one
juror or two jurors of her innocence or guilt, whatever
it may be. But the longer it goes, you would
think that something like that is going on in the courtroom,
I mean in the jury room. Now, again that speculation
on my part. Maybe they're just being very, very deliberate.
Maybe they are going through everything in a clinical fashion
and they want to make sure that they missed nothing.
And that's quite possible too. I know that if I
was a jur on any case, never mind something like this,
I'd want to make sure that we were being very thorough,
that we weren't missing anything, because not only are we
talking about justice being served, we're talking about somebody going
to prison for the rest of their lives pretty much.
So you have to be thorough if you're a juror
and you're in charge of something like this. So I
could see them being clinical about it, being surgical about it,
and that's why it's taking a little extra time. But
you could also say that the longer it goes, the
better it is for the defense, at least from the
peanut gallery perspective over here. So with no verdict again today,
that's what we have to look forward to for the
next few days. I guess it'll give you folks some
time to catch up on some more context episodes, so
that's a bonus, right, But here we are waiting and
waiting and waiting some more. It seems like everything that
has to do with Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell takes
decades to come to fruition, and it's no different in
this case. You know, you would think that the jurors
would want to get this hammered out before the holiday,
but again, there's a lot of information for them to process,
and who knows what's going on in that jurors room.
But that's where it stands as of now. No verdict, folks,
And well, I guess one good thing is Glenn Maxwell
won't be out of jail on Christmas, So that's a
good thing. All right. Let's jump into an article from
the Daily Mail and let's see what they have to
say about the jur deliberations and the recess. Headline Glenn
Maxwell will spend Christmas Day, her sixtieth birthday, lock behind
bars in hellhole prison cell as jury breaks for the
holiday without reaching a verdict in the sex trafficking case. Now, honestly,
I'm kind of torn by all of it, really, like,
is this the time to really be taking a holiday?
And the whole scheduling of this trial has been absurd
from the jump. After the delay in July, July was
the perfect time. There's nothing to get in the way.
They could have hammered it all out. The weather would
have been perfect, there would have been no COVID surges,
none of that nonsense. But with the way it all
breaks down, and the fact that there's going to be
another pause in the case here after we've had a
three day recess already, just seems a bit weird to me.
You would think they'd want to get it all hammered
out prior to the holiday. But I don't know, Maybe
there should be some sort of like stipulation when there's
a case like this, a trial like this, that you
know you have to use all of those days. You
can't you know, have the Thursday off. I mean, what
is this should probably probably be in there tomorrow hammering
things out at least, you know, in my opinion anyway,
plenty of time to go home and eat some holiday
meal with the family. But this is kind of an
important deal, right again, I'm not too sure, Like what
the processes are when it comes to courts and holidays
and stuff like that. I'm just speaking in general terms. Well,
you know, the one extra day probably would have went
a long way to getting to the verdict. And even
before that, the three recess days we took previously, those
I didn't understand taking those either. Glenn Maxwell will spend
Christmas in her sixtieth birthday in Limbo and in prison
after a jury failed to reach a verdict in her
sex trafficking case. The jury deliberated for their third day
and sent one note requesting three transcripts, but did not
come to a decision. Maxwell appeared relaxed and was laughing
with her lawyers and gave each a hug before being
taken away to prison. First of all, not the prison.
She went back to Loca, so that's not prison. Second
of all, man, it must be rough being treated like
Hannibal Lecter or Nelson Mandela the way she said she's
being treated, considering she's here hugging up on her lawyers
having a grand old time. If she was really being
treated that bad, she wouldn't have any contact with her
lawyers even at the trial. And again, that whole entire
line that she was pitching for that whole entire time
was such garbage, and her new found crusade to fix
the justice system is just as much garbage. She wouldn't
have cared one bit about the conditions and lockups, jails, prisons,
any of the rest if she didn't have to stay
there for one second. It was never anywhere near her mind.
She had all the money, all the power, all the
influence in the world. She could have talked to people
and tried to get things fixed in these prisons and
in these jails before she ended up in one. But yeah,
she's being treated so terribly. The court will break for
the rest of the week and we can we'll come
back on Monday. Despite not being not being found guilty
of any of the alleged crimes, Maxwell will spend Christmas Day,
which is also her sixtieth birthday, behind bars at the
Metropolitan Detention Center, while what she describes as a hellhole
where she's been held since her arrest in July of
twenty twenty. Oh well, how dare she be held in custody? Still?
That's all part of it, right, Her trial isn't over.
She was being held without bail. What she gets the
day off for Christmas. Maybe everybody you know what dab,
what the hell open up the prisons. Everybody gets the
day off for Christmas, everybody goes home. What does that
even mean? Of course she's going to spend the day
in jail, in limbo. She's not in limbo. She's waiting
for the verdict. It's pretty you know, a pretty simple process.
How this is, how this works here. If she's found
in it, then she'll be going home. If not, well,
the hell whole it's gonna get a whole lot worse.
Maxwell has maintained her innocence, and her lawyers have bashed
her accusers as having false memory and being motivated by money.
In legal filings earlier this year, Hannibal Hannibal Maxwell claims
her treatment in prison is so bad it would be
fit for Hannibal Lecter. I'm gonna upload a context episode
later on about that as well. Just a ridiculous statement.
I mean to try and compare yourself to Hannibal Lecter.
Is just so crazy and ridiculous that there's almost not
enough words to explain it. And you would think that
her lawyers would be able to come up with a
better real life comparison. Right, If she's being treated so badly,
so poorly, how about you give us a real life
comparison of somebody who she's being treated like, so we
can go and look that person up as well. Instead
you give us some nonsense about Hannibal elector huh well,
Bobby Sternham love the suit. At one point, Maxwell barricaded
herself in the video conference room in prison with a
card of legal documents, prosecutors claimed, and was deemed a
security threat by blocking the door and preventing guards from
accessing the room. We talked about that previously as well.
It was an issue where she had the card in
front of the door and the guards couldn't get into
access her to watch her. And when that happened, I
said to myself, why wouldn't there be a guard on
the inside of that room and on the outside of
that room? Why do you only have the one guard there?
Once again, the Department of Justice is an absolute dumpster fire.
And if any single organization or three letter bureaucracy in
this country needs to be fixed from the bottom up,
it's the Department of Justice. Judge Alison Nathan told the
jury to be safe over their Christmas break due to
the omicron variant of the coronavirus. She said she wanted
them back healthy on Monday. Whenever you want attending the
court in New York will have to wear an N
ninety five or K nine, a K N ninety five
mask to enter the building. So they're going all in. Huh.
They're like, look, you're coming in, but you're gonna have
to look like Dustin Hoffman's character from the movie Outbreak
when you show up, because we're not messing around with
no omicron virus in this piece. So they got them
all kitted out now with the K ninety fives and
the whole flip. I guess the bandana doesn't work no more.
No more cloth masks, no surgical masks. We're going all
in on the N ninety fives. Near the end of
the day, the jury asked for another copy of the
transcript of the accuser Jane's testimony. They also asked for
the testimony of Kate, another accuser in Epstein's former Palm
Beach house manager. Want a less so they're asking for
that so they can go over it again and try
and corroborate some of the information that was given in
the testimony of the survivors. So they'll go through it
and they'll make sure they didn't miss anything, you know,
the whole line. And that's what's going on with these transcripts.
They're needing a little bit more for reference purposes or
to come to a decision. They feel like they need
more material, so they asked the judge to provide transcripts
or whatever other evidence they think they might need. Given
the option to deliberate on Thursday, the jerry said no,
because they had made plans. They said in a note.
I mean, I get it right again, I get it,
and I don't want to be too critical of the
jury for being human and making plans. But if you
knew you were going to be on this jury, you
should have probably had all of your plans. Besides, you know,
Christmas even Christmas Day locked out because you know that
it's a possibility that you might get caught up and
have to you know, go to court or whatever it
may be. So I think that the court should have
been more upfront about that and more heavy handed with
it by telling the jurors, hey, look, you can't you know,
if we have to go all the way up till
the very end of the break here, right up until Thursday,
I mean Friday. Then that's what we have to do.
But I guess that wasn't what the guidelines that were
set forth. That wasn't what they were so they're going
this route. The jury of six men and six women
have now deliberated for sixteen hours and twenty minutes. Maxwell
fifty nine denies six counts of recruiting and transporting underage
girls for Jeffrey Epstein. On Tuesday, the second day of deliberation,
the jurors appeared to be zeroing in on two accusers.
They deliberated for the whole day Tuesday and sent four
notes to the judge, including one related to Annie Farmer.
They wanted to know if they could use her testimony
for two counts of conspiracy to entice and transport an
underage girl to engage in sex acts, and the judge
said that they could. Now remember this is about the
transportation facet of it, not so much the actual sexual
assault part, because New Mexico age of consent, all of
the reasons that we have stated earlier, right, that is
why they're focusing on the transportation aspect of this. But
then I say, to myself, why isn't the Man Act enacted?
Why aren't they charged with the Man Act? And again
I'm left with more questions than I am with answers,
And that's just been the typical of this whole entire ordeal. Unfortunately,
Judge Nathan said she would tell them that they could. Earlier,
the jury asked to see the notes of an FBI
interview that Carolyn gave in two thousand and seven, the
first time she spoke to law enforcement about being abused
by Epstein. Judge Nathan said that it had not been
entered into evidence, so they could not see it. However,
the jury could refer to its mention in Carolyn's cross
examination by the defense, so it wasn't entered into evidence,
so they could not see it, meaning they couldn't have
the physical document that they were looking for, the three
to zero twos, because you can't use three twos as
actual evidence, so all they could use was the referrals
that made mention of it during the testimony. At ten
ten am, after just over an hour of deliberating on Tuesday,
the jury sent their first note. Judge Alison Nathan said
the jury were asking for the transcripts of testimony from Jane, Annie,
and Carolyn, but did not mention Kate kid Is the
is the only accuser whose claims should not be considered
crimes as charged in the indictment. Prosecutor Maureen Comey said
that both sides needed to agree to some redactions before
giving the transcripts over. Defense lawyer Bobby Sternham agreed the
jury were not brought out, and Judge Nathan said she
would give them the transcripts in the deliberation room. So
a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, right
they're trying to jockey still both sides to try and have,
you know, the best chance to come out victorious here.
And when they're talking about these conversations about redactions and stuff,
obviously not good for us when it comes to transparency.
But what they're trying to do is figure out what
should be in there and what shouldn't be in there
according to their own narrative, meaning both sides, and then
it'll be up to the judge to figure it all
out when all is said and done. Maxwell walked into
court wearing a black turtleneck sweatshirt and black pants while
holding a green folder. She hugged her lawyers and waved
out a young woman in the public gallery. Maxwell's defense
delivered closing arguments Monday afternoon, telling the jury that she
is an innocent woman, wrongfully accused of crime she did
not commit. Yeah, you know what, everybody says the same thing, right,
Maxwell's such a great person. She didn't commit any crimes.
Maxwell would never do anything like this. This is so
out of character for her, said nobody ever. In her
closing remarks, Maxwell Maxwell's lawyer, Laura Meninger said the government
has failed to prove any charge beyond a reasonable doubt,
and the only correct verdict in this case is not
guilty on each count. The defense again attempted to discredit
the accounts of the four accusers, as managers stated, the
evidence has established what we told you it would that
the stories relied on by the government are error, his memories, manipulation,
and money. But in this case the order is reversed.
The money brought the accusers to the FBI where their
personal injury lawyers sat right there. That is such a
ridiculous and false statement that I don't even know how
she can make that in court. To call Bradley Edwards
a personal injury lawyer is it's beyond the pale. But
I don't expect anything more from Menagers. She has shown
herself to be straight up vile in this whole entire ordeal,
and definitely somebody who is just shake your head disgusting
in my opinion. As for how Maxwell was betrayed, Menager
said that she had been made to look like Kuela
Deville and the devilwaars Prada all wrapped up into one.
Such a portrait was as old as Hollywood. Managers said, yeah,
you mean, like your whole entire defense of going after
the credibility of the accusers. You want to talk about
being old. That's as old as it gets. They've been
using that strategy forever since the Biblical and she wants
to talk about using an old strategy. Boy, oh boy.
Meninger said the lawyers manipulated their stories and the government
accepted their stories without ever corroborating them. Meninger said that
suddenly the accusers recovered memories years later, and that's just
so ridiculous. How many of those memories were repressed? How
many of those girls didn't want to come forward because
they fear Jeffrey Epstein, Glaine Maxwell and the rest of
these scumbags. When you walk into a room and there's
a picture with Jeffrey Epstein and all these world leaders
littering the walls and you're some poor girl from Palm Beach,
of course, it's going to be a bit intimidating. She said,
the recovered memories that Glaine was involved, that Golaine was there,
that Glaine was the culprit. Menager said that the prosecution
spent a lot of time talking about Epstein's lifestyle, about
his wealth and his property and his private planes, just
like a sensationalistap Bloyd would. Menainger said that Epstein was
a master manipulator who abused his money and his power.
She said, we are not here to defend Jeffrey Epstein.
He is not my client. But she added, Gallaine Maxwell
is not Jeffrey Epstein. No, she's not. That's pretty a
factual statement. But she's just as bad my opinion, anyway,
anyone who could sit at his right hand while he's
doing all of this, while these girls are being brought in,
and then not only that, but to take part in
it all, to manage it all, to facilitate it all.
There is a special place in hell, if hell exists
for somebody like Maxwell in my opinion. Meninger claimed that
when Epstein died, the prosecution pivoted to going after Maxwell.
The idea was that Glaine was there. She must have known.
Meninger criticized prosecutors for showing the Jerry dozens of photos
out of thirty eight thousand sees from Epstein's New York
home in two tho nineteen. She said, where are the
other thirty one, nine hundred and sixty photos? Who was
in those photos? Was it other girlfriends? Other women? Nor
should the jury draw on inference from Epstein keeping photos
of Maxwell? Menainger asked the jury that if an ex
boyfriend or girlfriend had photos of them, would that make
them a sex offender? And that's just ridiculous, all right?
So the thirty one, nine hundred and sixty photos, I agree,
Let's see him. How many of them? Had Maxwell involved
bringing the girls there or whatever other six scenario you
might want to come up with. How about we go
back a step further. How about we see the stuff
from Palm Beach, Glenn Maxwell. You know, the stuff that
Indyke took out on the hard drives, the stuff that's
protected under the non prosecution agreement. How about we see
all of that stuff, and because you have pictures, that
makes you a sex offender? What kind of statement is
that even? Does make any sense? No, it's just absolute ridiculousness.
Nor should the jury draw any in excuse me past there.
Menager condemned the use of such images as straight up sensationalism. Well,
if they tell a story and they piece things together,
how is it sensationalism? Also, if those other photos don't
have anything to do with the current situation, why would
they show them anyway? I mean, if you're talking about
complete transparency, Menager, then I think we're all for it.
We want everything. So everything you wanted redacted, let's get
that unredacted. Let's get a full viewing for everybody to see.
Since you're so worried about transparency all of a sudden.
Turning to the accusers memories, Menagers said that they inserted
Glene Maxwell into their narrative after they lawyered up. Said,
you don't need a lawyer to talk to the FBI.
You don't spoken like somebody who is from an affluent life,
somebody who is from a background where they've never had
to deal with law enforcement. Here's a little bit of
unsolicited advice for all of you out there. Never speak
to law enforcement without a lawyer, the FBI, anybody. I
don't care if you're a witness or anything else. Menainger
said that it fell to the defense to ask the
tough questions of the accusers, and cross examination had shown
the truth was manipulated and changed over time for the
purpose of the victims getting a payday. But that doesn't
make sense because the payday was already gotten. They already
had their payday through the compensation fund. Nobody can sue
Maxwell if they got money from the compensation fund. So
what does she even mean by any of this? Wouldn't
have there been more lucrative routes to take, like maybe
making a movie, selling your rights to a book, something
like that. Instead, you bring your whole life in public views.
You can get dragged by scumbags and people who have,
you know, nothing better to do with their time. I
think that there would have been a better way to
a payday for these girls. No manager went through inconsistencies
in the statements by Jane and Carolyn and said that
they had suffered from post event suggestion as their false
memory expert Elizabeth Loftus had described it adding new and
false information after the event. According to Menainger, the prosecution
had broken promises to produce numerous house staff, family members,
and other witnesses to back up the claims. The idea
put forward by prosecutors Maxwell became a facilitator of sexual
abuse for Epstein to maintain her a wealthy lifestyle was wrong. Well,
I agree with that. That was never the motivation. In
my opinion, This was a tandem working hand in hand
to compile information on rich and wealthy people so they
could manipulate them so that they can increase their power,
whatever it may be. Wealth information their foothold within the
upper crust. See the way you and I look at
our bank accounts, and you know, we look at money
and we're like, all right, this is our you know,
judgment on what we can do. Right. We can go here,
we can go there. We have money to buy food
for them. It's not money. It's about information. They have
information the way we have money, and that's more powerful. Right.
If you have compromant on one of these people, then
they'll do whatever you want them to do. And that's
what Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell were masters of compiling compromond.
Menager said that Maxwell at the time was a beautiful
woman in her thirties who was just starting out on
her career. Epstein was manipulating everyone around him and dating
women behind her back. Menager said that maybe it was
Jeffrey who need Glaine and her connections rather than her
needing him for his money. Turning to each accuser, Menainger
said that Jane was like an actress who forgot her lines.
Jane is an actress on a soap opera, A real nice,
real pleasant thing to say, very pleasant thing to say,
and to tell you the truth. You can make that assertion,
just like I'll make the assertion that your client Gleanne
Maxwell is an absolutely reprehensible piece of human excrement. And
all the money in the world, all the power in
the world, all the influence in the world, should never
get somebody off the hook for doing what she is
being accused of doing. And hopefully when these jurors get
back from their Christmas holiday, they get back from opening
their presence and you know, eating some food, hanging with
their families, whatever it's gonna be, well, maybe they'll give
Gleann Maxwell a nice late Christmas present, and that Christmas
present will be coal in her stocking. All right, folks,
Well there you have it, as the third day wraps up,
no verdict yet and we slide off into another recess
as we await the fate of Maxwell. As for me, well,
nothing's gonna change. I'll be here morning, be here night,
and we'll continue to pump out the context episodes as
they come along. All right, everybody, I hope you all
had a great day and I will be back later on.
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