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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

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Today is the third day that the jury is deliberating

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in the Gallaine Maxwell trial and we all are waiting

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for the verdict now. As we do that, we're going

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to dive into an article this morning from The Daily

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Beast about some of the bombshells that we have heard

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throughout the testimony leading us up to this point. So

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it's a relatively long article, so we're just gonna dive

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right in now. Like I said, this article is from

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the Daily Beast. The headline flights with Trump, pregnancy picks

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and latex costumes the biggest bombshells from Glaine Maxwell's trial.

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The author of this article is Kate Bricklett, and shout

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out to Kate for doing a great job throughout this

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whole entire thing. She's been very consistent with her reporting

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and one of the very very few, honestly, who has

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remained consistently good throughout this whole entire ordeal. So make

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sure you go and give Kate a follow on like

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social media or you know, follower work on the Daily

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Beast or whatever. But she definitely deserves a tip of

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the cap for the fantastic job she has done here,

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and you know she has been very uh fairer in

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her reporting. Let's remember that it was The Daily Beast

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that broke the story about Gleainne Maxwell's nephew, Alexander Derossi

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working for Hillary Clinton State Department. So you know, Kate

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has done very good work here and it's always a

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joy to add one of her articles to the catalog.

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So with that said, let's take a look. Glenn Maxwell's

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sex trafficking trial wrapped up earlier than expected, with testimonies

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spanning twelve days rather than the anticipated six weeks. The

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defense called only eight witnesses on Thursday and Friday before

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resting its case. The socialite co conspirator general all around scusbag,

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who turned sixty on Christmas Day, is accused of recruiting

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teenage girls for Jeffrey Epstein, the late multi millionaire pedophile,

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and her former boyfriend, allegedly to sexually exploit through massages

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in the nineteen nineties and early two thousands. She also

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was accused of abusing some victims herself. She is pleaded

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not guilty and denied any involvement with Epstein's crimes. You know,

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It's funny. You would think that if you didn't have

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anything to do with Epstein's crimes, that you would have

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come out right away after Epstein was arrested and gave

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a full account of what occurred. No, I didn't do this.

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I wasn't involved in that. I certainly didn't hurt anybody.

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In fact, I was a victim myself. But there was

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never any of that, was there. The only time that

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we start hearing about, oh, I'm a victim is when

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the hammer starts to swing down, and then she's in

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legal jeopardy. Now she's a victim. Anything to try and

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wiggle off of the hook. There is nothing, no plan,

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no plot that Glenn Maxwell wouldn't get involved in to

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try and stay out of trouble. The Jerry began deliberating

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late in the afternoon on Monday after closing arguments, and

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will resume their discussions on Wednesday morning. Prosecutors called twenty

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four witnesses in ten days, including the four victims listed

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in the indictment against Maxwell, who were as young as

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fourteen when Epstein molested them. Two accusers testified under the

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pseudonyms Jane and Kate. A third, Carolyn, used her first

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name and the last Annie Farmer, was identified by her

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full name. The women described Maxwell as the financier pedophiles

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chief accomplice who recruited them into his teenage sex ring,

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groomed them, and facilitated the abuse at his homes around

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the world. Now, with all that we know leading up

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to this, and then the testimony that we heard, how

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in the world could there be any other verdict besides

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a guilty one. Now again, I will not be shocked

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no matter what happens. If there's a not guilty verdict

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on all accounts, I would shake my head and you know,

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accept the fact that that's just how the government is, right,

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It's just the way it goes. But I think that

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in this in this situation, I think that there's going

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to be enough to convict. And it's probably just my

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cynicism talking when I say, oh boy, there's a you know,

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the she's gonna walk or anything like that. When I

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get those doubts, it's probably just my cynicism speaking. But

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I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't

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put anything past the federal government. And when it comes

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to situations like this, court cases and until something is

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locked and loaded and you have a verdict. Anything is

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possible in the America injustice system when you're dealing with

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the elite. Now, if it was you or I on trial,

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this would be a done deal, a wrap, and we

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would have been under the prison already. But you have

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to factor in the added little piece that Glenn Maxwell

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is part of the you know, the big club, as

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George Carlin was so fond of saying. The trial shed

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new light on the bond between Epstein and Maxwell, the

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life of luxury they enjoyed while allegedly abusing girls from

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broken homes or whose family struggled financially, and the supposed

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code of silence they imposed on their employees. Here were

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some of the trial's biggest bombshells. Victim Jane said Maxwell

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and Epstein abused her during group sex. Now think about

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that for a minute. What sort of sick, disgusting, demented

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people do you have to be to bring a fourteen

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year old into your sexual your group sexual romp. There's

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no redeeming factors for people that would do anything like that.

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There's no fixing people like that. The first victim to testify, Jane,

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said that when Epstein and Maxwell began abusing her when

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she was only fourteen in nineteen ninety four. Maxwell seemed

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very casual and like it was very normal and not

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a big deal. That's because of the normalization process, right

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when you go back and you look at the grooming

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and how all of this comes into play. You have

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to have it normalized first for these girls to accept

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what's going on. And that's a critical role that Maxwell played.

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The couple allegedly began to train her sexually and include

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her in group sexual encounters with other adult women. Jane

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shared the first names of several women who allegedly participated

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in group sexual encounters with her when she was underage, Eva,

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Sophie Michelle, and a British woman named Emmy. Jane claims

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Maxwell and Epstein recruited her when she was attending the

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prestigious interlock In summer camp, where Epstein was a donor

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and had use of a scholarship lodge when he visited

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the Michigan School every year. Not only did he have

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use of the lodge, he had his name on the lodge.

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He was donating so much money there that they put

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his name on the lodge. Think about that for a minute.

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This monster had access to that lodge at this school

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with all them kids running around. Now that's not to

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say he was, you know, on this campus using it

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as a fertile hunting ground, if you will. But the

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just idea that somebody like this could have access to

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all of these children with a location right on the

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school property is just beyond the pall. Jane told Jurrors

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she had just lost her father to cancer and was

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living with her mother and siblings and a family friend's poolhouse.

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According to Jane, Epstein paid for her voice lessons, private

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school in New York, and other bills her mother couldn't afford.

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she saw at least four women in Galaine, all topless

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and some of them were naked. Again, the normalization of

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it all, from the time you walk in till the

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time you leave. This is how we do things here.

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And if you want to be part of this crew,

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if you want to be part of this upper crust

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world and society, you're gonna have to play the game.

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And that's how these operations they kick in. Right they

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get these girls there, they see the other girls and women,

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young girls from broken homes they think, well, hey, this

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is how the other side lives, I guess, and before

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you know it, it's just normalized behavior to them. Kate

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said Maxwell forced her to wear a schoolgirl uniform. Forty

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four year old British woman testified that Maxwell began grooming

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her when she was seventeen and nineteen ninety four, Kate

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met Maxwell during a trip to Paris with her boyfriend,

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who was an Oxford classmate and to socialite. Maxwell, who

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was in her thirties, invited Kate to tea at her

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London townhouse weeks later. I was quite excited to be

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friends with her, Kate testified, adding I felt that I

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had found a new connection that could really be meaningful

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to me. First rule, don't go and drink tea with

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anyone who invites you to go and drink tea. It's

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kind of creepy, right, Oh yeah, why don't you come

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over and have a cup of tea with me? What?

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No stranger danger? I mean, I don't get it. Like again,

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maybe it's just my view of the world and how

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jaded I've become with things. But zero chance that I'd

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be engaging with some stranger that I met on the street.

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I don't care if she's posh or not. I mean,

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now I'm cool. I'll pass on coming get some tea

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at your house. Who just invites somebody over to their

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house for tea that they just meet. It's just it's

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all weird to me, right, The whole scene is just

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weird to me. But that friendship turned dark. Kate testified

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after Maxwell introduced her to Epstein and urged her to

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give him massages that quickly turned sexual. She said that

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she needed massages all the time and it was very

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difficult to keep up. Kate said, when she was eighteen,

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Maxwell and Epstein invited her to Palm Beach, where Maxwell

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allegedly directed her to wear a schoolgirl costume. According to Kate,

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Maxwell handed her a tray of tea and directed her

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to serve the money manager pedophile, who then engaged in

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a sex act with her. She asked me if I

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had fun and told me that I was such a

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good girl and that I was one of his favorites,

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Kate said. Because Kate was of the age of consent

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in the UK during the pattern of abuse, jurors were

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instructed that she's not a victim as charged in the indictment.

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how is it that this guy is not charged with abuse.

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I mean, obviously you're he was grooming them. Obviously there

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was other things going on. And if you can't get

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them for the age of consent, right because she's at age,

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there gotta be another way to go about Noll in

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his ass. I mean, if he was in the mafia,

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they would have found a way. Right. How did they

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get al Capone? Certainly wasn't all the murders and all

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the mayhem. They got them on tax evasion. And at

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the end of the day, I really don't care what

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you put somebody in prison for, as long as they

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go to prison when they deserve it. Carolyn told Epstein

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and Maxwell she was too young to travel with them.

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The Florida woman told jurors that she was molested by

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Epstein from the age of fourteen to eighteen, when she

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became too old for the sex predator, who eventually asked

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her if she had had any younger friends. Carolyn testified

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from two thousand and one to two thousand and four.

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Maxwell would help schedule her massage sessions and greet her

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in the kitchen. When she showed up, she would just

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let me know. Mister Epstein would be in the back

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he was on a jog, or he'd be back any moment.

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Carolyn said, I could go upstairs and set up. Carolyn

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said she confided in Epstein and Maxwell about trauma in

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her past. Her grandfather raped her and molested her starting

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when she was four, and her mother was addicted to

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drugs and alcohol. She added that the couple knewer age

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because they had invited her to visit Epstein's US Virgin

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Islands compound. She told Maxwell that I was too young

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and there is no way in hell my mom was

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going to let me leave the country. Despite this, Carolyn

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claims Maxwell continued booking the massage sessions and even groped

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her one day when she was setting up the massage table.

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She came in and felt my boobs and my hips

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and my buttocks and said that I had a great

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body for miss Epstein and his friends. So all of

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the testimony that these girls gave it all was leaning

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in the same direction of what Maxwell was up to

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and what she was doing, what her role was here,

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and the fact that she was the comfort zone for

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these girls, the one that you know, they'd show up

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and they'd feel a lot more secure with Maxwell there

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as opposed to just showing up in Epstein hanging out

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in a robe. It goes to show, at least they

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hope the jurors. The crucial role that Maxwell played within

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all of this. Annie Farmer said she was forced to

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give Epstein a foot rub when Max before Maxwell groped her.

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Now forty two, Farmer recalled a nightmarish weekend alone with

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Epstein and Maxwell in New Mexico, a trip her mother

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believed would be an academic gathering for twenty to twenty

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five students. She was a sixteen year old girl. The

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couple were in their thirties and forties, and they took

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her shopping into a movie theater, where she said, Epstein

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right away began to hold my hand and caress it

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and rub on my foot and on my arm. I mean,

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it's like, what are you like, fifteen sixteen? You get

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you you're on your first date at the movie theater

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and you go right in to grab a little handholding.

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The dude was just wired, completely fucked up. Jeffrey Epstein

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was one of the most disgusting, heinous human beings in

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the history of the world in my opinion, and anyone

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who acts like they had no idea what he was

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up to when they were hanging around him, they're lying,

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that is my honest opinion. When they returned to Epstein's ranch,

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Maxwell taught Farmer how to give Epstein a foot massage.

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He seemed, you know, to be enjoying it, Farmer's testified,

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adding that he made groaning noises. Asked how asked how

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she felt about it, Farmer said, I felt very uncomfortable.

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I did not want to be touching his feet. Maxwell

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then asked Farmer if she'd had professional massage before and

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offered to give her one. Farmer said. They went to

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her guest room, where Maxwell set up a table and

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told her to get undressed. Farmer took off her clothes

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and laid face down under his sheet before Maxwell began

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rubbing her legs and making small talk. But according to Farmer,

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Maxwell then directed her to turn over and pulled the

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sheet down before groping her chest. Farmer said she was

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frozen and wanted badly to get off the table and

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have this massage be done. Farmer added that the door

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to the room was open, and she sensed that Epstein

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could see her. So while she's being molested engroped by

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sick ass Galay, Maxwell old Jeffrey Epstein's disgusting asses standing

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in the hallway watching these people are absolutely debed. Maxwell

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allegedly warned Epstein's butler never to look him in the eye.

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In some of the trial's most explosive testimony, Epstein's former

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pom Beach butler, Juana Lessi, described how his responsibilities included

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cleaning up the financier pedophiles massage rooms, rinsing off sex toys,

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and restocking them in Maxwell's bathroom closet, which also held

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pornographic tapes and a black vinyl or leather black costume.

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I mean, when I hear that, I think about in

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American horror story, the dude that shows up in the

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leather outfit in the murder house and starts killing people.

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That's what I think about when I think of hear

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about a black vinyl or leather black costume. I mean, really,

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He also stocked Epstein's vehicles with one hundred dollars bills. Victims,

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including Carolyn, testified that Epstein paid her cash and that denomination. Well,

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they had to have the hundi's in the car, right,

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Epstein had to be able to pay people. And you know,

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if they found a new bile that they wanted to swoop,

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they had to have a few hundis so that they

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could make off and say that they were, you know,

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just buying prostitutes. That was the alibi, that weak ass,

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transparent ass alibi, and the federal government and the state

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government went for it straight garbage. These are little girls

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that he's paying to have sex with, not prostitutes. UNLESSI

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testified that he saw many, many, many females visit Epstein's

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lair and often saw topless young women lounging by the pool.

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He said he knew two of Epstein's young visitors were

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underage at the time. He also detailed how Maxwell ordered

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him in the other staff to follow a fifty eight

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page household manual with seemingly endless checklists of tasks at

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Epstein's Florida mansion, including and sharing a gun, was placed

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in the bedside table of the master bedroom. The booklet

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contained directives such as remember that you see nothing, hear nothing,

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say nothing except to answer a question directed at you.

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It's like the monkeys right here, see nothing, say nothing.

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That's what it was like to work with for Jeffrey Epstein.

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Huh asked about this rule, a lessie testified it means

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a kind of warning that I was supposed to be blind, deaf,

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and dumb to say nothing of their lives. The documents

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order also stated, unless otherwise instructed, never disclosed mister Epstein

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or Miss Maxwell's activities or whereabouts to anyone, and advised

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Miss Maxwell of any strange phone calls or inquiries. So

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again it goes to the point of Maxwell being the

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head honcho here. Why would he be reporting to Maxwell

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if she wasn't the one with her feet at the controls.

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Why would he be reporting to Maxwell if she wasn't

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the one making the decisions. So, of course Glayne Maxwell

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played a key role here. Alessi, who worked for Epstein

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from nineteen ninety one to two thousand and two, said

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the manual involved an incredible amount of war and was

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very degrading to me. He said Maxwell once told him

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never to look Epstein in the eyes when addressing him.

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The ex house manager said he typically worked from five

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am to nine or ten PM, a job he later

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described as slavery. When defense lawyer Jeff Pagliucca suggested suggested

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none of the female messus has complained about being hurt

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or coerced into doing anything unless, he replied, No, they

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never did, But I wish they would have, because I

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would have done something to stop it. Yeah, okay. Everybody

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wants to be the hero in their own story, right

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I would, I could, I should have. The fact of

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the matter is you didn't. You didn't do anything want

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a LESSI. You let this happen, just like the rest

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of them. You knew the deal, you knew what Epstein was,

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but you still let this happen while you were there. Boy,

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I gotta tell you what, if I was in a

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LESSI shoes forget it, I would have no chance. I'd

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work for somebody like this. I mean, are you kidding

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me right now? Yeah, I'm sure. When you first get hired,

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it seems like a dream job. Then you start to

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figure out what's going on, and you don't run for

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the hills. You stay there for ten years. Says a

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lot about a LESSI. Honestly, Trump, Clinton and Mike Wallace

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were among Epstein's famous pals. Former Epstein pilot Larry Vasoski

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named several VIPs who flew on the Financier Pedophiles private jet,

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including Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, Printon Britain's Prince Andrew,

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superstar violinist It'sak Pearlman, actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker,

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former Senator George Mitchell, and former senator and astronaut John Glenn.

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Asked if Robert Kennedy Junior took a jount on Epstein's plane,

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Vasaski said he didn't recall. So we knew about all

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of that stuff, right, We knew about all of those

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people on that plane. None of that's really that new

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in the overall story or picture of the story. But

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one thing is interesting. Up until recently, we had only

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heard of one flight by Trump on the plane with Epstein.

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Now there are several more. So again, as you peel

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back the layers, more of the onion is exposed. And

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just like with Bill Clinton, I'm not gonna sit here

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and say that, you know, oh yeah, Donald Trump was

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engaging in abusing children with Jeffrey Epstein. That's certainly not

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what I'm saying. What I'm saying is he certainly enabled

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Jeffrey Epstein for years and years and years while they

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were friends. And it's not even debatable. And I know

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there's zelots out there right, people who are absolutely zealous

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about their politician. Oh he's my favorite. He could never

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do anything like that, breaking news. All your favorite politicians

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are scumbags, Okay, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, all

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of them. And it's not even close to a conversation

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to think that Donald Trump wasn't hanging out with Jeffrey

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Epstein on a regular basis. These dudes were tight. The

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defense took pains to introduce other high profile names, asking

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witnesses throughout the trial about Victoria's secret mogul, Les Wexner.

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Manhattan billionaire couple Glenn and Eva Dubin recently under fire

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over their decades long friendship with Epstein and Maxwell's former flame,

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multimillionaire Gateway co founder Ted Waite. Jane said Epstein and

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Maxwell often bragged about high powered friends, including Trump, Clinton,

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and the late TV reporter Mike Wallace. They would sort

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of name dropper or sometimes put people on speakerphone whose

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voices I didn't know, and then say, oh, this was

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so and so Jane told jurors, adding that the couple

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would say that they were very well connected and affluent.

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And again it goes back to what I always talk

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about with the legacy media. You gotta remember that Mike

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Wallace was a very powerful man within the media for

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a very long time. And the fact that he's hobnobbing

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around with Jeffrey Epstein, you don't think that he has

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other friends in the media. You don't think that he helped

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to squash some of these stories about Epstein that were

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coming out. Of course he did. Why do you think

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Epstein hung out with people in the media. Everything that

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Epstein did him and Maxwell, it was because it was

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planned out. There were a lot of things, but tactically

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they were very very smart. Jane added that during a

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visit to New York when she was fifteen, she's saying

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happy birthday to Wallace at his eightieth birthday party. Epstein

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also allegedly introduced her to Trump during his visit to

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mar A Lago resort in Palm Beach. I mean, isn't

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that nice, Hey, Donald Trump, buddy, ol buddy old Palamne.

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Why don't you meet my fourteen year old friend? Yeah,

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but you know, everything was just kosher and normal. Nobody

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knew anything about what was going on. Carolyn believed Maxwell

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was once pregnant. Now, this was one that caught me

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off guard too. I had never heard anything about Maxwell

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being pregnant, so if there was a pregnancy, that certainly

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is something new to me. Throughout the trial, Maxwell's legal

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team asked witnesses, including Vesasky and fellow pilot David Rodgers,

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about whether they'd ever seen the socialite pregnant before they

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said no. The queries and apparently an attempt to discredit Carolyn,

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who previously told the government of seeing a photo of

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an expectant Maxwell in Epstein's Florida home. When Pagliuca asked

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Carolyn about the image, she replied nude and pregnant laying

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on the before he cut her off. There were multiple pictures,

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nude photos. Carolyn later added, So again, I've never heard

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anything about a pregnant Glenn Maxwell. So if there is

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not a picture like that, then of course the defense

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is going to use that to help bolster their argument

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that Marilyn misremembered that she was lying that you know,

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she's not telling the truth, So they'll definitely try and

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use that for sure. Epstein's assistants were Maxwell fangirls. Yeah,

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we all know that because Maxwell was the underboss. Right

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if we're talking about it like the mafia. Okay, this

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is an easy way to understand it. Jeffrey Epstein the godfather,

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Glenn Maxwell the under boss, John Luke Brunel, the consiglieri,

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and then the core four Kellen Groff, Ross Marsenkova. Those

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are like the capos, right, and then that's your whole

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leadership structure. There two defense witnesses, former Epstein employees, Kimberly

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Espinoza and Michelle Healy, shared glowing memories of Maxwell, and

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while they both met the victim known as Jane in

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the nineties, they testified that they believed she was an adult.

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Espinosa said Epstein's office initially hired her as a legal assistant,

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but that Maxwell quickly recruited her to become a full

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time executive assistant. I highly respected Glane, Espinosa testified. I

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looked up to her very much. Espinosa added that she

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kept in touch with Maxwell even after leaving for another

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opportunity in two thousand and two, and that Maxwell got

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her a job interview with wit with Waite and allowed

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her to stay at her London town home three years

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ago during a vacation to Europe. Espinosa, who hasn't commented

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publicly about her ties to Epstein and Maxwell before, was

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accused in a victim's lawsuit of arranging Epstein's massage sessions

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with a teenage victim in New York. And that's really

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the crux of this right And what is so frustrating

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to people who have been following this case forever because

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the scope is so small here. All of these people

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that were booking these massages of these girls should be

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caught up in a rico case, but instead we have

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this small scope and we give them wiggle room. And

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the blame for that has to lay right directly at

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the feet of Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice.

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The dude is a wet noodle. I can't believe people

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were pining for this guy to be on the Supreme Court.

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He is an absolutely atrocious Attorney General. We're talking Bill

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Barr level atrocious. Healy, who was a receptionist for Epstein

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from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety nine, said that

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Jane looked like a grown up to me because she

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had a lot of makeup on. Yeah, because that makes

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you a grown up, because you have a lot of

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makeup on. The insanity of it all, folks, the insanity

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of it all. And that's the excuse for all of

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these people that were around them, right. Ah, she looked

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old enough to me. Oh she had big breasts. Oh

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she was wearing a lot of makeup. A lot of excuses,

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but yet not anyone held accountable of Maxwell. Helly gush

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that the socialite co conspirator was a fantastic boss. She

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taught me a lot, heally said. I respected her. She

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was tough, but she was great. Oh yeah, great at

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being an absolute scumbag. Financial records revealed Maxwell received millions

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from Epstein. The government called Patrick McHugh, an executive at

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JP Morgan, to testify about million dollar transfers from Epstein

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to Maxwell. In October of nineteen ninety nine, Epstein sold

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eighteen point three million dollars worth of shares in a

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money market fund, then transferred the cash to one of

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Maxwell's accounts. Bank records also showed Epstein wired five million

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to Maxwell in September two thousand and two. In June

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two thousand and seven, according to Mcheugh's testimony, Epstein wired

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seven point four million to an account for Maxwell. That

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account then transferred seven point three to five million to

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two when account for air Glane Incorporated, which wired the

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funds to Sekorski Aircraft in Connecticut to buy a helicopter.

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So again, ill gotten gains right being transferred amongst co

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conspirators is exactly what Rico was made for. And I'm

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gonna keep saying it until you're tired of me yelling

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about it, until you don't want to hear the word

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00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,000
Rico anymore, until you start calling me Uncle Rico. Because

474
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:30,079
I don't even understand how the prosecution can wake up

475
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:32,359
in the morning and look themselves in the mirror knowing

476
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,279
they're leaving all of this out there on the table.

477
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,720
Sarah Kellen, an alleged co conspirator, was repeatedly named but

478
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:46,720
never testified when Epstein secured his controversial two thousand and

479
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,759
eight plea deal. The document granted an immunity to potential

480
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:54,960
co conspirators, including Sarah Kellen, Leslie Groth, Adrianna Ross, and

481
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,559
Nadio marson Kova. From day one, however, Kellen's name has

482
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:03,680
haunted the trial. In her opening remarks, Sternham noted that

483
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,920
Carolyn twice sued Epstein and Kellen, but her complainant didn't mention.

484
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:12,680
Maxwell Vsasky indicated he spoke to Kellen, an assistant for Epstein,

485
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:17,279
the most when it came to scheduling the financier Pedophiles flights.

486
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:21,960
The defense also asked fellow pilot Rogers whether Kellen took

487
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,680
over as Epstein's main assistant in two thousand and one,

488
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,839
and when Fed's presented evidence of FedEx's invoices, Kellen was

489
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,240
listed as the center of a package to underage Carolyn. So,

490
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,680
I know what you're saying to yourselves right now, How

491
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,079
in the hell is Sarah Kellen Vickers not indicted here?

492
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,720
How is she not being brought up on charges? And

493
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,480
it's a question that all of us are asking because

494
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:48,880
the fact that she was so intimately involved here, the

495
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,759
fact that she had her fingerprints over so many different

496
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:56,359
pieces of evidence here is just my numbing. And she

497
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,559
goes on to live her jets atter's life with her

498
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:10,759
NASCAR husband. Huh. During a charging conference on Saturday, defense

499
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:14,799
lawyer Christian Everdell referred to individuals who we normally may

500
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:17,960
have considered calling as a witness, but who the government

501
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:21,480
clearly could have charged criminally based on the testimony we heard.

502
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:24,319
And I won't name names if we don't want to

503
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,160
do that, but I think we probably know who we're

504
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,200
talking about here. Everdell continued, he said that if we

505
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,839
tried to call that witness or those witnesses, they undoubtedly

506
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,880
would have invoked their Fifth Amendment rights. I'm happy to

507
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,759
say the name. Everdell said, it's Sarah Kellen And think

508
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:43,880
about that for a minute. This lady is able to

509
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,880
avoid being under oath once again. And it all comes

510
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,640
back to that non prosecution agreement. You want to talk

511
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,640
about throwing a wrench into the situation. It's the only

512
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,240
thing that's keeping people like Sarah Kellen Vickers from being

513
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,319
in prison right now, and it's something that needs to

514
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:07,559
be overturned. And I really hope that when the Supreme

515
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:09,599
Court gets a look at it, they take the case

516
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000
and they overturn it because Sarah Kellen Vickers and the

517
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,240
rest of the Corps for they all need to be

518
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,720
brought up on charges. And I'm going to be posting

519
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:25,359
a seven part series about the Corps. Four and the

520
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:32,079
women who enabled Epstein. Maxwell announced she wouldn't testify and

521
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:35,759
again proclaimed her innocence on Friday, before the defense rested

522
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,119
its case, Nathan asked Maxwell whether she intended to testify.

523
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:41,279
I want to make sure that you know that the

524
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:44,599
decision whether to testify or not is your. Is your decision.

525
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,400
You are entitled to the best advice of your attorneys

526
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,519
in making this decision, but the decision is yours, Miss Maxwell.

527
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:56,079
Do you understand that your honor said Miss Maxwell, who

528
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,839
stood up with her lawyers, the government has not proven

529
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,359
its case beyond a reasonable doubt, and there is no

530
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:07,640
need for me to testify. Well, I don't know about that.

531
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,599
I mean, I think that if Maxwell really wanted to

532
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:13,440
bolster her case and prove that she was innocent, she

533
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,839
would have testified here. But I guess we'll see what

534
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,400
occurs with the verdict, because maybe her lawyers do know

535
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:27,440
what they're doing. Epstein's Miss Sweden ex girlfriend testified for Maxwell,

536
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,680
but couldn't remember much. She was worthless on the stand, honestly,

537
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200
and what it does is just shine more spotlight on

538
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:36,200
her and Glenn Dubin for their role in all of this. Honestly,

539
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,480
Eva Anderson Dubin, a former Miss Sweden and doctor who

540
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,440
dated Epstein in the eighties and early nineties, was the

541
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,920
defense witnessed last Friday. The decision to call Dubin raised eyebrows,

542
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,319
as she and her billionaire husband Glenn have faced scrutiny

543
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:54,079
over their ties to Epstein in the wake of his death.

544
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,480
The Dubin stood by Epstein after he pleaded guilty to

545
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,359
soliciting a minor in Florida and served I'm in a

546
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,559
Palm Beach County jail for decades. They welcomed Epstein around

547
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,239
their children, who called him Uncle e F Uncle Jeffy.

548
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,360
How disturbing is all of that? Imagine having your children

549
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,119
around Jeffrey Epstein and then calling him uncle e F.

550
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,480
Dubin testified that she didn't recall meeting Jane or flying

551
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,880
a flying with her on Epstein's plane. She also said

552
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,960
she never saw a troubling behavior from Epstein toward minor girls, but,

553
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,840
as the prosecution pointed out, Dubin lately has encountered memory

554
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,519
problems because of a medical issue. Sometimes I can't remember

555
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:40,239
things from last month, Dubin told jurors. My family notices it,

556
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:42,800
so why even bring her up on the stand, waste

557
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,000
of time, and again it just puts more spotlight on

558
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:50,360
her and her family. Other Epstein survivors showed up to

559
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,960
watch the trial. Several accusers who aren't victims in the

560
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,239
government's case, including Sarah Ransom, dropped in to watch the

561
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,880
Federal from what dropped in to watch from the f

562
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,840
Federal Courts overflow rooms, where a video feed broadcast the

563
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,920
proceedings on computer screens. Attorney Brad Edwards, who represented victims

564
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,239
of the Financier Pedophile for more than a decade, showed

565
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,480
up with Jennifer Callen, a woman who's never told her

566
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:19,079
story about her thirteen years of abuse while allegedly trapped

567
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:22,840
in Epstein's world. Jen Callen was enslaved in Epstein's sex

568
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,800
trafficking organization for thirteen years, was forced into a marriage,

569
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,639
and is trying to put her life together. She realizes

570
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:32,400
people are sticking their necks out and testifying and wants

571
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,559
them to know that they're not alone. Edwards told The

572
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,920
Daily Beast, this is someone who essentially held captive for

573
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:43,559
years in the trafficking operation. Edwards said, I mean the

574
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:49,199
absolute darkness and sadness surrounding this whole thing just can't

575
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:54,599
be talked about enough. All of the poor people who

576
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:56,719
have been caught up in this, and remember we have

577
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,000
only heard from a few. There are so many un

578
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,880
girls and victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his cohorts that

579
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:07,519
I can't even begin to think about how many are

580
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:12,920
out there. Maxwell's family showed up, but not her secret husband.

581
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:17,159
For her part, Maxwell hasn't been without support. Her siblings,

582
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,280
Kevin and Isabelle, were in the front row, alongside her

583
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,480
friend and attorney LEAs Safian. Kevin Maxwell addressed a flock

584
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,239
of press outside the courthouse in the trials first week, saying, personally,

585
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,519
it gave me a tremendous sense of relief to be

586
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,920
close to her, to actually be able to see her

587
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,280
in the flesh, even to be able to speak with her.

588
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,280
Kevin then referenced his family's complaint filed with the United

589
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,840
Nations last month over her conditions at Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention Center.

590
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,840
We respect the criminal justice system and process in this country,

591
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,039
and as a result, we are not going to make

592
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:54,960
any other further comments. While attending court, Kevin said Maxwell's

593
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,679
supposed husband, Scott Borgerson, was nowhere to be seen. The

594
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,159
Daily Mail reported he He's been spotted with a new

595
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:04,760
love interest instead, a forty nine year old yoga instructor

596
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,119
and local journalist in Manchester by the Sea, Massachusetts. And

597
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,519
back to the complaints about her conditions, I mean, really,

598
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,000
the conditions in jailed, what are they supposed to be?

599
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,280
You know, five star conditions? You know, really had a

600
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,840
bad time in jail. Khalif Browner and I did a

601
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:25,159
series on him as well. I'm going to post that

602
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,519
soon too, because it gives you an idea of the

603
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:34,000
ridiculousness of Maxwell's complaints when you put it up next

604
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:39,199
to somebody who was actually being abused by the system.

605
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,960
Government released never before seen photos of Epstein's homes and

606
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:47,079
of Maxwell giving him a foot rub midflight. Dozens of

607
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:50,719
government exhibits provided an insider look at Epstein's mansions in

608
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,880
Palm Beach and New York, with images of massage rooms,

609
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,280
sex toys, artwork, and framed photographs of young women throughout

610
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,559
his office. Many photo depicted Epstein and Maxwell in happier days,

611
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,800
hugging and kissing and even posing at a lunch hut

612
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,239
at Queen Elizabeth's Balmoral castle, but some images were creepy

613
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,679
showing Maxwell giving Epstein bare feet a massage on his

614
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,320
private jet as their buddy and accused predator Jean Luke

615
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,039
Brunell looks on. During summations on Monday, Prosecutor Alison Moe

616
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:26,280
said one photo showed Maxwell massaging Epstein's foot with her breasts.

617
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,079
In another picture, apparently released to the jury but not

618
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:33,519
the public, Maxwell and Epstein were nude in a swimming pool.

619
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:37,719
Well that's a picture I'm glad that we haven't gotten

620
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,480
to see. Certainly don't want to see that. Maxwell's lawyer

621
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:46,000
blurted out victim's real names in court. Gasps were heard

622
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,679
in the court room overflow room when defense attorney Jeff Pagliuca,

623
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,360
while cross examining Alessi, said Jane's real first name in court.

624
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,440
The government immediately called for a sidebar, during which, according

625
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,840
to court transcripts, Pagliuca said his suppose blunder was completely unintentional.

626
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,960
Prosecutor Marine Comy then said, your honor, given that mister

627
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,280
Pagliuca represented that he had prepared to cross examine this

628
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,920
witness on his testimony, I think we need to have

629
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,519
a plan going forward for how to make sure this

630
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:19,679
does not happen again, because clearly mister Pagliuca has not

631
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,920
prepared enough. The witness herself did the same thing. It happens.

632
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,320
Judge Nathan answered, my perception was that it was an accident.

633
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:31,320
Pagliuca then vowed it won't happen again. But later on

634
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,039
in the trial, Pagliuca said the last name of the victim, Carolyn,

635
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,280
perhaps twice. A Daily Beast reporter heard him say her

636
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,800
surname after lunch on December seventh, while a reporter from

637
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,840
Inner City Press documented another blurt of the victim's name

638
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,519
hours earlier. So they were they've been scummy the whole time, right,

639
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,440
And I think it was intentional looking to dox the victims,

640
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,800
make it harder on them. We know that's how the

641
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,719
defense likes to roll anyway, So he can say it's

642
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,639
an accident, and you know, how can you prove it's not.

643
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,800
Maxwell allegedly wrote a third person essay about a relationship

644
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,119
with Epstein. After the Feed seized hard drives found in

645
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:18,920
Epstein's Manhattan home, they discovered a trove of word documents

646
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,519
created by a user named g Max. On one file

647
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,920
created in October two thousand and two was a third

648
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,159
person essay about Epstein and Maxwell's romance. During closing arguments,

649
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,079
More quoted from the narrative, which read, Jeffrey and Glaine

650
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,599
have been together a couple for the last eleven years.

651
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,119
They are a contrary to what many people think, rarely apart.

652
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,559
I almost always see them together. The document concluded. Jeffrey

653
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:47,039
and Glane compliment each other really, really well, and I

654
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:50,039
cannot imagine one without the other. On top of being

655
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:54,639
great partners, they are also the best of friends. Uh

656
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:59,000
what a couple for eleven years? Great partners, rarely apart,

657
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,119
best of friends? Does that sound like a personal assistant?

658
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,119
Compartmentalized from Jeffrey Epstein's life motol Jurors adding, when you're

659
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,119
with someone for eleven years, you know what they like.

660
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,800
Epstein liked underage girls. He liked to touch underage girls.

661
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:19,119
Maxwell knew it. Defense lawyer Laura Meninger, however, argued that

662
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:22,400
other people had access to Maxwell's computer. What on earth

663
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,079
makes the government think that Glaine Maxwell was writing an

664
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:28,400
essay about herself and the third person with Jeffrey Epstein,

665
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:33,000
she said the FBI Menainger added, wants to just say this,

666
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,880
This is Glaine Maxwell's document because it's got her name

667
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,119
in the metadata. Please, well, how else would you know

668
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:41,039
if it's hers or not? I mean, if the name's

669
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:43,800
in the metadata, wouldn't that make it hers? Ah, maybe

670
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,280
it's Santa Claus's. Maybe Santa Claus snuck in and he

671
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,719
did a little extra writing in Glaine Maxwell's computer files.

672
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,679
Epstein lavish gifts on his former pilot, whose daughter rode

673
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,840
horses with Maxwell. Vasaski testified that Epstein gave him forty

674
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,079
acres of land from his ten thousand acre New Mexico

675
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:08,880
ranch property so he could build a house. And he

676
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,320
didn't charge you for that land Everdell last, to which

677
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,280
Vasaski replied, no, he did not. Vasaski also said that

678
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,159
he has two daughters whose private high school and college

679
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:22,639
tuition were funded by Epstein. It's all payoff money. Why

680
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:25,360
do you think Vasaski didn't have anything to say. He

681
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,639
was bought this shit so he'd shut his yap and

682
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,639
he's done his job. Well now, once he gets through this,

683
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,840
he'll never have to worry again. He'll be able to

684
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,079
just live his life with all of the ill gotten

685
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:39,400
gains he got from Jeffrey Epstein. Again, where is the rico?

686
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,480
So fair to say Epstein took an interest in seeing

687
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:47,880
your young daughter succeed. Isn't that right? Everdell continued, Vassoski answered,

688
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,400
that's correct. He believed in higher education and later confirmed

689
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,159
he didn't believe Epstein or Maxwell had any ulterior motives.

690
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,599
With regard to his children, Vasaski said his teen and

691
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:02,119
preteen daughters spent time with Maxwell on Epstein's New Mexico

692
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:05,239
property and they went horseback riding together. Well, no shit,

693
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,719
they did. You were in on it, buddy, You were

694
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440
part of the scam. You were part of the criminal operation.

695
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:14,039
Larry Vassoski another guy who should have been indicted. Another

696
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:17,760
reason why I've said from the beginning the prosecution has

697
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,960
been spinning their wheels. People they're calling up as witnesses

698
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:28,199
should have been indicted. Vsaski claimed he would have quit

699
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,559
his job, which he held from ninety one to twenty nineteen,

700
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,559
had he known Epstein prayed on underage girls. Asked about Jane,

701
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:39,519
Vessoski testified that he never thought she was underage. He

702
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:41,599
said when he met her, she was just a mature

703
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:45,360
woman with some piercing powder blue eyes, and he would

704
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,880
quit his job as it really so what happened when

705
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,599
Epstein got busted the first time, that wasn't enough to

706
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,800
make you quit your job. Huh. You know, folks, one

707
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,519
thing that you can be sure of is everybody who

708
00:43:56,599 --> 00:44:02,800
was in Epstein's web is an absolute liar. So there

709
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,119
you have it, folks, some of the bombshells that we

710
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,599
have taken away from this so far as this whole

711
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,960
entire thing has unfolded. Now we are in a holding

712
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:16,679
pattern as we await the verdict from the jury. So

713
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,639
what I'm going to do today is I'm going to

714
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:21,480
add some more context episodes. Like I said, I have

715
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:25,159
a series about the women who enable Jeffrey Epstein. I'm

716
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:29,079
gonna post that. And I'm also going to post the

717
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:32,280
Cleaf Browder episode I was talking about because I feel

718
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,920
like it's relevant considering all of the complaints with Maxwell

719
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:41,480
and her accommodations in jail. So I'll be around all day, folks,

720
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,920
waiting to hear that verdict, and the second we have something,

721
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,159
I'll hop back on and I'll get an episode ready

722
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,719
to go. So I hope that all of you have

723
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,639
a great day up until then. And then uh yeah,

724
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,440
I'll be back later on with some more. If you'd

725
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,400
like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby

726
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,320
Kupuchi at ProtonMail dot com. It's bo bbu Y cap

727
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:07,039
you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find

728
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:14,280
me on Twitter at Bobby underscore cap Ucci. All of

729
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,480
the links that we discussed can be found in the

730
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:21,079
description box. What's up everyone, and welcome back to the

731
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:26,960
Epstein Chronicles. Well, after three days of jur deliberations, we

732
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:31,159
still do not have a verdict, folks, and we won't

733
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:35,599
have a verdict before Christmas. The jury and the court

734
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:39,960
stated today that the jurors will begin their Christmas break

735
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,920
starting today and they will not be utilizing Thursday tomorrow

736
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,519
as another deliberation day. Instead, they will go home for

737
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:53,679
the Christmas break, the holidays, and come back on December

738
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,760
twenty seventh to pick things back up and try and

739
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,440
come to a verdict. Now, well, I would think that

740
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:05,840
the longer it goes on, the happier about things the

741
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,559
defense would have to be right. It would mean that

742
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:13,719
the jurors are, you know, trying to figure some things

743
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:19,119
out in that jurors room, trying to maybe convince one

744
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,199
juror or two jurors of her innocence or guilt, whatever

745
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,920
it may be. But the longer it goes, you would

746
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,039
think that something like that is going on in the courtroom,

747
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,599
I mean in the jury room. Now, again that speculation

748
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,960
on my part. Maybe they're just being very, very deliberate.

749
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,159
Maybe they are going through everything in a clinical fashion

750
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:44,400
and they want to make sure that they missed nothing.

751
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:47,920
And that's quite possible too. I know that if I

752
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,440
was a jur on any case, never mind something like this,

753
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,440
I'd want to make sure that we were being very thorough,

754
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:58,079
that we weren't missing anything, because not only are we

755
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:02,280
talking about justice being served, we're talking about somebody going

756
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,480
to prison for the rest of their lives pretty much.

757
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,639
So you have to be thorough if you're a juror

758
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,480
and you're in charge of something like this. So I

759
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:14,400
could see them being clinical about it, being surgical about it,

760
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,760
and that's why it's taking a little extra time. But

761
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,119
you could also say that the longer it goes, the

762
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:25,760
better it is for the defense, at least from the

763
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:32,679
peanut gallery perspective over here. So with no verdict again today,

764
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:35,039
that's what we have to look forward to for the

765
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:38,360
next few days. I guess it'll give you folks some

766
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,000
time to catch up on some more context episodes, so

767
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:45,760
that's a bonus, right, But here we are waiting and

768
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,079
waiting and waiting some more. It seems like everything that

769
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:54,239
has to do with Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell takes

770
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,880
decades to come to fruition, and it's no different in

771
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:04,079
this case. You know, you would think that the jurors

772
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:07,280
would want to get this hammered out before the holiday,

773
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,559
but again, there's a lot of information for them to process,

774
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,039
and who knows what's going on in that jurors room.

775
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:18,880
But that's where it stands as of now. No verdict, folks,

776
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,519
And well, I guess one good thing is Glenn Maxwell

777
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:25,760
won't be out of jail on Christmas, So that's a

778
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,679
good thing. All right. Let's jump into an article from

779
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,280
the Daily Mail and let's see what they have to

780
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:40,519
say about the jur deliberations and the recess. Headline Glenn

781
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:44,679
Maxwell will spend Christmas Day, her sixtieth birthday, lock behind

782
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,079
bars in hellhole prison cell as jury breaks for the

783
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:53,679
holiday without reaching a verdict in the sex trafficking case. Now, honestly,

784
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,239
I'm kind of torn by all of it, really, like,

785
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,679
is this the time to really be taking a holiday?

786
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:04,119
And the whole scheduling of this trial has been absurd

787
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:06,800
from the jump. After the delay in July, July was

788
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,880
the perfect time. There's nothing to get in the way.

789
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:12,320
They could have hammered it all out. The weather would

790
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,760
have been perfect, there would have been no COVID surges,

791
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,440
none of that nonsense. But with the way it all

792
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:22,960
breaks down, and the fact that there's going to be

793
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,639
another pause in the case here after we've had a

794
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:29,639
three day recess already, just seems a bit weird to me.

795
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,800
You would think they'd want to get it all hammered

796
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,719
out prior to the holiday. But I don't know, Maybe

797
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,599
there should be some sort of like stipulation when there's

798
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,480
a case like this, a trial like this, that you

799
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,719
know you have to use all of those days. You

800
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,960
can't you know, have the Thursday off. I mean, what

801
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:54,360
is this should probably probably be in there tomorrow hammering

802
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,880
things out at least, you know, in my opinion anyway,

803
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:00,760
plenty of time to go home and eat some holiday

804
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,079
meal with the family. But this is kind of an

805
00:50:05,119 --> 00:50:10,239
important deal, right again, I'm not too sure, Like what

806
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,760
the processes are when it comes to courts and holidays

807
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,079
and stuff like that. I'm just speaking in general terms. Well,

808
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:21,159
you know, the one extra day probably would have went

809
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:24,400
a long way to getting to the verdict. And even

810
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,519
before that, the three recess days we took previously, those

811
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:35,360
I didn't understand taking those either. Glenn Maxwell will spend

812
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,599
Christmas in her sixtieth birthday in Limbo and in prison

813
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,239
after a jury failed to reach a verdict in her

814
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,320
sex trafficking case. The jury deliberated for their third day

815
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:49,000
and sent one note requesting three transcripts, but did not

816
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:53,400
come to a decision. Maxwell appeared relaxed and was laughing

817
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,159
with her lawyers and gave each a hug before being

818
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,840
taken away to prison. First of all, not the prison.

819
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,280
She went back to Loca, so that's not prison. Second

820
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,519
of all, man, it must be rough being treated like

821
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:09,239
Hannibal Lecter or Nelson Mandela the way she said she's

822
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,039
being treated, considering she's here hugging up on her lawyers

823
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:16,199
having a grand old time. If she was really being

824
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,000
treated that bad, she wouldn't have any contact with her

825
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:22,440
lawyers even at the trial. And again, that whole entire

826
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:25,639
line that she was pitching for that whole entire time

827
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:32,480
was such garbage, and her new found crusade to fix

828
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:37,800
the justice system is just as much garbage. She wouldn't

829
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,760
have cared one bit about the conditions and lockups, jails, prisons,

830
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,840
any of the rest if she didn't have to stay

831
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,159
there for one second. It was never anywhere near her mind.

832
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,559
She had all the money, all the power, all the

833
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:53,039
influence in the world. She could have talked to people

834
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:55,079
and tried to get things fixed in these prisons and

835
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:59,559
in these jails before she ended up in one. But yeah,

836
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:05,159
she's being treated so terribly. The court will break for

837
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,360
the rest of the week and we can we'll come

838
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,199
back on Monday. Despite not being not being found guilty

839
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,599
of any of the alleged crimes, Maxwell will spend Christmas Day,

840
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,960
which is also her sixtieth birthday, behind bars at the

841
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,519
Metropolitan Detention Center, while what she describes as a hellhole

842
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,559
where she's been held since her arrest in July of

843
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:32,199
twenty twenty. Oh well, how dare she be held in custody? Still?

844
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,480
That's all part of it, right, Her trial isn't over.

845
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,559
She was being held without bail. What she gets the

846
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:40,400
day off for Christmas. Maybe everybody you know what dab,

847
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:42,760
what the hell open up the prisons. Everybody gets the

848
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,400
day off for Christmas, everybody goes home. What does that

849
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,360
even mean? Of course she's going to spend the day

850
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,559
in jail, in limbo. She's not in limbo. She's waiting

851
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:56,039
for the verdict. It's pretty you know, a pretty simple process.

852
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:59,599
How this is, how this works here. If she's found

853
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:02,480
in it, then she'll be going home. If not, well,

854
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,039
the hell whole it's gonna get a whole lot worse.

855
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,480
Maxwell has maintained her innocence, and her lawyers have bashed

856
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,519
her accusers as having false memory and being motivated by money.

857
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,119
In legal filings earlier this year, Hannibal Hannibal Maxwell claims

858
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,599
her treatment in prison is so bad it would be

859
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:27,760
fit for Hannibal Lecter. I'm gonna upload a context episode

860
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,280
later on about that as well. Just a ridiculous statement.

861
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,519
I mean to try and compare yourself to Hannibal Lecter.

862
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,320
Is just so crazy and ridiculous that there's almost not

863
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,280
enough words to explain it. And you would think that

864
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,039
her lawyers would be able to come up with a

865
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:51,280
better real life comparison. Right, If she's being treated so badly,

866
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,960
so poorly, how about you give us a real life

867
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:57,320
comparison of somebody who she's being treated like, so we

868
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,840
can go and look that person up as well. Instead

869
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,679
you give us some nonsense about Hannibal elector huh well,

870
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:09,159
Bobby Sternham love the suit. At one point, Maxwell barricaded

871
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:11,800
herself in the video conference room in prison with a

872
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,400
card of legal documents, prosecutors claimed, and was deemed a

873
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,719
security threat by blocking the door and preventing guards from

874
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,079
accessing the room. We talked about that previously as well.

875
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,199
It was an issue where she had the card in

876
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:28,000
front of the door and the guards couldn't get into

877
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,280
access her to watch her. And when that happened, I

878
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,559
said to myself, why wouldn't there be a guard on

879
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,840
the inside of that room and on the outside of

880
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,159
that room? Why do you only have the one guard there?

881
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,039
Once again, the Department of Justice is an absolute dumpster fire.

882
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:52,239
And if any single organization or three letter bureaucracy in

883
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,480
this country needs to be fixed from the bottom up,

884
00:54:54,719 --> 00:55:02,039
it's the Department of Justice. Judge Alison Nathan told the

885
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:04,760
jury to be safe over their Christmas break due to

886
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,400
the omicron variant of the coronavirus. She said she wanted

887
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,320
them back healthy on Monday. Whenever you want attending the

888
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,440
court in New York will have to wear an N

889
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:17,880
ninety five or K nine, a K N ninety five

890
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,679
mask to enter the building. So they're going all in. Huh.

891
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,360
They're like, look, you're coming in, but you're gonna have

892
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,079
to look like Dustin Hoffman's character from the movie Outbreak

893
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,000
when you show up, because we're not messing around with

894
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:34,639
no omicron virus in this piece. So they got them

895
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:37,159
all kitted out now with the K ninety fives and

896
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:40,000
the whole flip. I guess the bandana doesn't work no more.

897
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,280
No more cloth masks, no surgical masks. We're going all

898
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:48,159
in on the N ninety fives. Near the end of

899
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:50,480
the day, the jury asked for another copy of the

900
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,280
transcript of the accuser Jane's testimony. They also asked for

901
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,119
the testimony of Kate, another accuser in Epstein's former Palm

902
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:01,199
Beach house manager. Want a less so they're asking for

903
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,719
that so they can go over it again and try

904
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,679
and corroborate some of the information that was given in

905
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,519
the testimony of the survivors. So they'll go through it

906
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:12,880
and they'll make sure they didn't miss anything, you know,

907
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,000
the whole line. And that's what's going on with these transcripts.

908
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:21,320
They're needing a little bit more for reference purposes or

909
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,599
to come to a decision. They feel like they need

910
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:28,679
more material, so they asked the judge to provide transcripts

911
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:34,159
or whatever other evidence they think they might need. Given

912
00:56:34,199 --> 00:56:37,199
the option to deliberate on Thursday, the jerry said no,

913
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:39,960
because they had made plans. They said in a note.

914
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:43,000
I mean, I get it right again, I get it,

915
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:44,559
and I don't want to be too critical of the

916
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,320
jury for being human and making plans. But if you

917
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,519
knew you were going to be on this jury, you

918
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:53,159
should have probably had all of your plans. Besides, you know,

919
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,440
Christmas even Christmas Day locked out because you know that

920
00:56:57,639 --> 00:57:01,239
it's a possibility that you might get caught up and

921
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,079
have to you know, go to court or whatever it

922
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:07,239
may be. So I think that the court should have

923
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:13,800
been more upfront about that and more heavy handed with

924
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,880
it by telling the jurors, hey, look, you can't you know,

925
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:17,880
if we have to go all the way up till

926
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,599
the very end of the break here, right up until Thursday,

927
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:23,840
I mean Friday. Then that's what we have to do.

928
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,920
But I guess that wasn't what the guidelines that were

929
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,719
set forth. That wasn't what they were so they're going

930
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:38,000
this route. The jury of six men and six women

931
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:42,239
have now deliberated for sixteen hours and twenty minutes. Maxwell

932
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,320
fifty nine denies six counts of recruiting and transporting underage

933
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,679
girls for Jeffrey Epstein. On Tuesday, the second day of deliberation,

934
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:54,079
the jurors appeared to be zeroing in on two accusers.

935
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:57,760
They deliberated for the whole day Tuesday and sent four

936
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,320
notes to the judge, including one related to Annie Farmer.

937
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,199
They wanted to know if they could use her testimony

938
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,039
for two counts of conspiracy to entice and transport an

939
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:11,800
underage girl to engage in sex acts, and the judge

940
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,679
said that they could. Now remember this is about the

941
00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:19,440
transportation facet of it, not so much the actual sexual

942
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:23,960
assault part, because New Mexico age of consent, all of

943
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:27,320
the reasons that we have stated earlier, right, that is

944
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,119
why they're focusing on the transportation aspect of this. But

945
00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:35,079
then I say, to myself, why isn't the Man Act enacted?

946
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,119
Why aren't they charged with the Man Act? And again

947
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:42,920
I'm left with more questions than I am with answers,

948
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:47,239
And that's just been the typical of this whole entire ordeal. Unfortunately,

949
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:55,239
Judge Nathan said she would tell them that they could. Earlier,

950
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,480
the jury asked to see the notes of an FBI

951
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:00,639
interview that Carolyn gave in two thousand and seven, the

952
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:04,000
first time she spoke to law enforcement about being abused

953
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,880
by Epstein. Judge Nathan said that it had not been

954
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,480
entered into evidence, so they could not see it. However,

955
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:14,679
the jury could refer to its mention in Carolyn's cross

956
00:59:14,679 --> 00:59:20,119
examination by the defense, so it wasn't entered into evidence,

957
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:22,559
so they could not see it, meaning they couldn't have

958
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:25,360
the physical document that they were looking for, the three

959
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,920
to zero twos, because you can't use three twos as

960
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:33,239
actual evidence, so all they could use was the referrals

961
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:39,840
that made mention of it during the testimony. At ten

962
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,400
ten am, after just over an hour of deliberating on Tuesday,

963
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:47,000
the jury sent their first note. Judge Alison Nathan said

964
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,639
the jury were asking for the transcripts of testimony from Jane, Annie,

965
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:53,960
and Carolyn, but did not mention Kate kid Is the

966
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:58,199
is the only accuser whose claims should not be considered

967
00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:02,519
crimes as charged in the indictment. Prosecutor Maureen Comey said

968
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:05,760
that both sides needed to agree to some redactions before

969
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,440
giving the transcripts over. Defense lawyer Bobby Sternham agreed the

970
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:13,719
jury were not brought out, and Judge Nathan said she

971
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,480
would give them the transcripts in the deliberation room. So

972
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,000
a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, right

973
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,159
they're trying to jockey still both sides to try and have,

974
01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:25,880
you know, the best chance to come out victorious here.

975
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,639
And when they're talking about these conversations about redactions and stuff,

976
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,559
obviously not good for us when it comes to transparency.

977
01:00:34,039 --> 01:00:36,880
But what they're trying to do is figure out what

978
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,960
should be in there and what shouldn't be in there

979
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:43,039
according to their own narrative, meaning both sides, and then

980
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:44,960
it'll be up to the judge to figure it all

981
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,360
out when all is said and done. Maxwell walked into

982
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,280
court wearing a black turtleneck sweatshirt and black pants while

983
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,199
holding a green folder. She hugged her lawyers and waved

984
01:00:56,199 --> 01:00:59,519
out a young woman in the public gallery. Maxwell's defense

985
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:03,159
delivered closing arguments Monday afternoon, telling the jury that she

986
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,559
is an innocent woman, wrongfully accused of crime she did

987
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:13,800
not commit. Yeah, you know what, everybody says the same thing, right,

988
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,440
Maxwell's such a great person. She didn't commit any crimes.

989
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,039
Maxwell would never do anything like this. This is so

990
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:25,840
out of character for her, said nobody ever. In her

991
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,840
closing remarks, Maxwell Maxwell's lawyer, Laura Meninger said the government

992
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,679
has failed to prove any charge beyond a reasonable doubt,

993
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,800
and the only correct verdict in this case is not

994
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,079
guilty on each count. The defense again attempted to discredit

995
01:01:41,079 --> 01:01:44,360
the accounts of the four accusers, as managers stated, the

996
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,639
evidence has established what we told you it would that

997
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:51,840
the stories relied on by the government are error, his memories, manipulation,

998
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,000
and money. But in this case the order is reversed.

999
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,159
The money brought the accusers to the FBI where their

1000
01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:02,039
personal injury lawyers sat right there. That is such a

1001
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:06,719
ridiculous and false statement that I don't even know how

1002
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:09,880
she can make that in court. To call Bradley Edwards

1003
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,840
a personal injury lawyer is it's beyond the pale. But

1004
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:18,159
I don't expect anything more from Menagers. She has shown

1005
01:02:18,159 --> 01:02:21,639
herself to be straight up vile in this whole entire ordeal,

1006
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,760
and definitely somebody who is just shake your head disgusting

1007
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:34,000
in my opinion. As for how Maxwell was betrayed, Menager

1008
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:36,199
said that she had been made to look like Kuela

1009
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,519
Deville and the devilwaars Prada all wrapped up into one.

1010
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:43,360
Such a portrait was as old as Hollywood. Managers said, yeah,

1011
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,280
you mean, like your whole entire defense of going after

1012
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,400
the credibility of the accusers. You want to talk about

1013
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:56,880
being old. That's as old as it gets. They've been

1014
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,800
using that strategy forever since the Biblical and she wants

1015
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,280
to talk about using an old strategy. Boy, oh boy.

1016
01:03:06,679 --> 01:03:09,880
Meninger said the lawyers manipulated their stories and the government

1017
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,079
accepted their stories without ever corroborating them. Meninger said that

1018
01:03:14,239 --> 01:03:19,280
suddenly the accusers recovered memories years later, and that's just

1019
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,360
so ridiculous. How many of those memories were repressed? How

1020
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,639
many of those girls didn't want to come forward because

1021
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:27,679
they fear Jeffrey Epstein, Glaine Maxwell and the rest of

1022
01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:31,360
these scumbags. When you walk into a room and there's

1023
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,880
a picture with Jeffrey Epstein and all these world leaders

1024
01:03:36,199 --> 01:03:39,679
littering the walls and you're some poor girl from Palm Beach,

1025
01:03:39,719 --> 01:03:45,079
of course, it's going to be a bit intimidating. She said,

1026
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:48,559
the recovered memories that Glaine was involved, that Golaine was there,

1027
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,360
that Glaine was the culprit. Menager said that the prosecution

1028
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,559
spent a lot of time talking about Epstein's lifestyle, about

1029
01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:58,800
his wealth and his property and his private planes, just

1030
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,519
like a sensationalistap Bloyd would. Menainger said that Epstein was

1031
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:06,119
a master manipulator who abused his money and his power.

1032
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,199
She said, we are not here to defend Jeffrey Epstein.

1033
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,559
He is not my client. But she added, Gallaine Maxwell

1034
01:04:12,679 --> 01:04:17,719
is not Jeffrey Epstein. No, she's not. That's pretty a

1035
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,920
factual statement. But she's just as bad my opinion, anyway,

1036
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,440
anyone who could sit at his right hand while he's

1037
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:29,000
doing all of this, while these girls are being brought in,

1038
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,519
and then not only that, but to take part in

1039
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:34,800
it all, to manage it all, to facilitate it all.

1040
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:38,320
There is a special place in hell, if hell exists

1041
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:44,119
for somebody like Maxwell in my opinion. Meninger claimed that

1042
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:48,039
when Epstein died, the prosecution pivoted to going after Maxwell.

1043
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,280
The idea was that Glaine was there. She must have known.

1044
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,920
Meninger criticized prosecutors for showing the Jerry dozens of photos

1045
01:04:56,199 --> 01:04:59,360
out of thirty eight thousand sees from Epstein's New York

1046
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,280
home in two tho nineteen. She said, where are the

1047
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,760
other thirty one, nine hundred and sixty photos? Who was

1048
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,440
in those photos? Was it other girlfriends? Other women? Nor

1049
01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:13,639
should the jury draw on inference from Epstein keeping photos

1050
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:16,559
of Maxwell? Menainger asked the jury that if an ex

1051
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:19,440
boyfriend or girlfriend had photos of them, would that make

1052
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:22,880
them a sex offender? And that's just ridiculous, all right?

1053
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:26,239
So the thirty one, nine hundred and sixty photos, I agree,

1054
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,400
Let's see him. How many of them? Had Maxwell involved

1055
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:36,039
bringing the girls there or whatever other six scenario you

1056
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:39,039
might want to come up with. How about we go

1057
01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:40,920
back a step further. How about we see the stuff

1058
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,360
from Palm Beach, Glenn Maxwell. You know, the stuff that

1059
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,360
Indyke took out on the hard drives, the stuff that's

1060
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,480
protected under the non prosecution agreement. How about we see

1061
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:56,039
all of that stuff, and because you have pictures, that

1062
01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:58,199
makes you a sex offender? What kind of statement is

1063
01:05:58,239 --> 01:06:08,400
that even? Does make any sense? No, it's just absolute ridiculousness.

1064
01:06:13,239 --> 01:06:16,239
Nor should the jury draw any in excuse me past there.

1065
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:21,960
Menager condemned the use of such images as straight up sensationalism. Well,

1066
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,239
if they tell a story and they piece things together,

1067
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:30,519
how is it sensationalism? Also, if those other photos don't

1068
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:34,320
have anything to do with the current situation, why would

1069
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,159
they show them anyway? I mean, if you're talking about

1070
01:06:38,159 --> 01:06:40,920
complete transparency, Menager, then I think we're all for it.

1071
01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:44,000
We want everything. So everything you wanted redacted, let's get

1072
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,840
that unredacted. Let's get a full viewing for everybody to see.

1073
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,719
Since you're so worried about transparency all of a sudden.

1074
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:56,039
Turning to the accusers memories, Menagers said that they inserted

1075
01:06:56,079 --> 01:07:00,480
Glene Maxwell into their narrative after they lawyered up. Said,

1076
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:02,519
you don't need a lawyer to talk to the FBI.

1077
01:07:03,639 --> 01:07:07,320
You don't spoken like somebody who is from an affluent life,

1078
01:07:07,559 --> 01:07:11,760
somebody who is from a background where they've never had

1079
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,719
to deal with law enforcement. Here's a little bit of

1080
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,880
unsolicited advice for all of you out there. Never speak

1081
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:22,199
to law enforcement without a lawyer, the FBI, anybody. I

1082
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:27,639
don't care if you're a witness or anything else. Menainger

1083
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:29,760
said that it fell to the defense to ask the

1084
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,039
tough questions of the accusers, and cross examination had shown

1085
01:07:33,079 --> 01:07:36,199
the truth was manipulated and changed over time for the

1086
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:39,000
purpose of the victims getting a payday. But that doesn't

1087
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:42,039
make sense because the payday was already gotten. They already

1088
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:45,599
had their payday through the compensation fund. Nobody can sue

1089
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:48,360
Maxwell if they got money from the compensation fund. So

1090
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,920
what does she even mean by any of this? Wouldn't

1091
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,559
have there been more lucrative routes to take, like maybe

1092
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:56,519
making a movie, selling your rights to a book, something

1093
01:07:56,599 --> 01:07:59,920
like that. Instead, you bring your whole life in public views.

1094
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:03,400
You can get dragged by scumbags and people who have,

1095
01:08:04,639 --> 01:08:08,639
you know, nothing better to do with their time. I

1096
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:10,239
think that there would have been a better way to

1097
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:15,440
a payday for these girls. No manager went through inconsistencies

1098
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,920
in the statements by Jane and Carolyn and said that

1099
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,239
they had suffered from post event suggestion as their false

1100
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:24,840
memory expert Elizabeth Loftus had described it adding new and

1101
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:29,359
false information after the event. According to Menainger, the prosecution

1102
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,399
had broken promises to produce numerous house staff, family members,

1103
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:37,079
and other witnesses to back up the claims. The idea

1104
01:08:37,119 --> 01:08:41,279
put forward by prosecutors Maxwell became a facilitator of sexual

1105
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:46,520
abuse for Epstein to maintain her a wealthy lifestyle was wrong. Well,

1106
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:50,520
I agree with that. That was never the motivation. In

1107
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,119
my opinion, This was a tandem working hand in hand

1108
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,000
to compile information on rich and wealthy people so they

1109
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,359
could manipulate them so that they can increase their power,

1110
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,439
whatever it may be. Wealth information their foothold within the

1111
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,319
upper crust. See the way you and I look at

1112
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:13,079
our bank accounts, and you know, we look at money

1113
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:16,079
and we're like, all right, this is our you know,

1114
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,600
judgment on what we can do. Right. We can go here,

1115
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,039
we can go there. We have money to buy food

1116
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:26,039
for them. It's not money. It's about information. They have

1117
01:09:26,199 --> 01:09:30,359
information the way we have money, and that's more powerful. Right.

1118
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:33,560
If you have compromant on one of these people, then

1119
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,359
they'll do whatever you want them to do. And that's

1120
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:40,880
what Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell were masters of compiling compromond.

1121
01:09:46,039 --> 01:09:48,640
Menager said that Maxwell at the time was a beautiful

1122
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,079
woman in her thirties who was just starting out on

1123
01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:55,840
her career. Epstein was manipulating everyone around him and dating

1124
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,199
women behind her back. Menager said that maybe it was

1125
01:09:59,279 --> 01:10:02,680
Jeffrey who need Glaine and her connections rather than her

1126
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,399
needing him for his money. Turning to each accuser, Menainger

1127
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,479
said that Jane was like an actress who forgot her lines.

1128
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,640
Jane is an actress on a soap opera, A real nice,

1129
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,479
real pleasant thing to say, very pleasant thing to say,

1130
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,439
and to tell you the truth. You can make that assertion,

1131
01:10:23,039 --> 01:10:25,479
just like I'll make the assertion that your client Gleanne

1132
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:32,199
Maxwell is an absolutely reprehensible piece of human excrement. And

1133
01:10:32,359 --> 01:10:34,479
all the money in the world, all the power in

1134
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,960
the world, all the influence in the world, should never

1135
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,159
get somebody off the hook for doing what she is

1136
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:44,439
being accused of doing. And hopefully when these jurors get

1137
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,399
back from their Christmas holiday, they get back from opening

1138
01:10:48,399 --> 01:10:52,119
their presence and you know, eating some food, hanging with

1139
01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:57,359
their families, whatever it's gonna be, well, maybe they'll give

1140
01:10:57,359 --> 01:11:01,960
Gleann Maxwell a nice late Christmas present, and that Christmas

1141
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:07,239
present will be coal in her stocking. All right, folks,

1142
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:09,920
Well there you have it, as the third day wraps up,

1143
01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:15,000
no verdict yet and we slide off into another recess

1144
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:20,840
as we await the fate of Maxwell. As for me, well,

1145
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,279
nothing's gonna change. I'll be here morning, be here night,

1146
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,319
and we'll continue to pump out the context episodes as

1147
01:11:27,319 --> 01:11:29,880
they come along. All right, everybody, I hope you all

1148
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,039
had a great day and I will be back later on.

1149
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,560
If you'd like to contact me, you can do that

1150
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,279
at Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O

1151
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,199
b b y c A p U c c I

1152
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,560
at ProtonMail dot com. That you can also find me

1153
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,399
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1154
01:11:51,039 --> 01:11:54,199
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1155
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:56,159
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