WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.400 --> 00:00:36.240 The weird things happened in the weird weird, weird. 2 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:30.280 Greety rating. 3 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.479 Everybody ate, how was that? I was going for that 4 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:35.560 kind of like Victorian chant kind of thing, That's what 5 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.000 it was doing, you know, or like Gregorian vibes. 6 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:40.920 That. Wow, that was hard to breathe through my nose 7 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:41.560 when I did. 8 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:42.920 That, probably because there's no holes on it. 9 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:46.159 I have a cold and it's that thing. 10 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:46.920 Is really difficult. 11 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:49.039 I couldn't wear it for a full green voice. 12 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.039 What are you talking about? Right? 13 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:55.719 Sorry? What are you talking about? His big red nose? 14 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:56.479 It's natural? 15 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.520 Oh, come on, dude, it's been like this for like 16 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:01.600 two days. Okay, I've just been rubbing my nose a 17 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:04.920 lot of cold. Yeah, I don't a little insecure about it. 18 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.239 Well you could barely tell mister slim shady over there. 19 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:10.200 Yeah, you want to talk about that? Put yourself on. 20 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:11.359 I'm on here. 21 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:14.799 Hey, how does that? How's it? How does it is 22 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.480 that hard to breathe with that at all? That hair 23 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:18.079 not at all? 24 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:21.719 Everything's natural with me, nothing. 25 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:24.560 Just going through my mk ltra memory eraser face. 26 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:26.319 Yeah. 27 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.920 I couldn't figure out if it was like Britney Spears 28 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:30.359 or if it was like I'm going for like a 29 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.599 David Beckham or like a like a Brad Pitt kind 30 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.079 of thing. Yeah, your your ice cream helped me. 31 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:37.879 Yeah. 32 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:45.159 I like it thanks to the being back there. Like 33 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.640 you know what they say, bro, when they when they 34 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:56.000 start shaving their heads and going blonde, it's over what 35 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:57.439 they say. They say, it's over. 36 00:01:57.760 --> 00:01:58.840 Yeah, who says that? 37 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:03.959 Well, just like the celebrities when they start shaving their hair. 38 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:05.920 Dude, I'm telling you like that. 39 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:06.840 Mk Ultra. 40 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:10.719 It's the mk Ultra memory Eraser program. Every time they 41 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:13.439 go to the medical center, the mk Ultra subjects, and 42 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.520 they come out with bleached hair. Yeah, and it's shaved 43 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:20.240 yeah most of the time. Yeah, so it's real. 44 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:22.960 What was the real motivation? I don't know. 45 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.319 It's like my hair grows so fast, man, it'd be 46 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.039 like two weeks and then I can shave it off 47 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:29.439 and it's like it never happened. So it's like, I 48 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.520 don't know, I've never done anything like it before. 49 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:37.240 Full disclosure, Full disclosure. Yeah, that's a show. Yeah it is. 50 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:38.800 It is out there. 51 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.599 Yeah, but I'm dying to know what you were gonna say. 52 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:42.199 I like it. 53 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:43.120 I think it looks great. 54 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:46.840 I like it I think. In fact, I couldn't do it. 55 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:49.240 I don't have enough hair. It would look weird. But 56 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.360 like a few days ago, I was like, man, I 57 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.479 wish like I could do that, that would actually look cool. 58 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:56.960 Nathan does that with his hair. Uh, Like, I think 59 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:58.240 it's a cool look. I like it. 60 00:02:58.280 --> 00:02:58.800 Thanks. 61 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.599 I talked to Ryan briefly about it. 62 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:04.039 You look like justin Timberlake. 63 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:05.879 Yeah, it's I think the Y two. 64 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.439 Can it looks like justin timber Ocean Yeah? 65 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:13.840 Nice? Yeah? Or you look like you look like Insynct nice. 66 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:14.759 Yeah. In the scene. 67 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.000 I think I'm gonna try to actually grow it out 68 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.280 and do it like a proper frosted tip situation. 69 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:23.000 Dude, Yeah, you should do frosted tip curls and get 70 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:30.080 them permed. I don't think that's it. I know that's 71 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:33.400 his natural hair, but like, get it permed like his hair. Yeah, dude, 72 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:35.080 you get frosted curled tips. 73 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:36.599 Yes, that'd be great. 74 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:39.520 Just curl the tip, yeah, just the tip, Just run 75 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:40.479 your fingers right through them. 76 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:44.439 I'm I'm honestly here for the Alex hair regrowth era. 77 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:46.319 I've been here for a minute. 78 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:47.199 Eve Ben buzzed too long. 79 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:49.520 You've been buzzed way too long. But let those locks 80 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:51.080 breathe and let them fly. 81 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:53.400 I want to say it was summer of last year 82 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:54.319 you started buzzing that. 83 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.599 I'm envisioning a future. I see it where Alex has long, 84 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.800 lush his hair again, full beard man bun. 85 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:05.879 Oh, so the beard, I'm envisioning it. I'm not going 86 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:08.599 to do that. Why that's just not on my plan. 87 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:13.120 The beard was out, the beard was looking good, but. 88 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:14.439 It was it was it. 89 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:16.839 No, no, no, no, I'm talking about my latest. 90 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:20.480 You didn't see it because we spent a week apart. 91 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.160 The same day that I got the hair done, she 92 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:26.480 was like, you gotta shave that. So I gave in 93 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:28.360 to peer pressure, to wife pressure. 94 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.240 Yeah, I guess, I guess. If you kept the beard, 95 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.000 you look like Homeboy from the first Tobey Maguire spider 96 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:38.720 Man that shot his uncle. Yeah right, it's a weird look. 97 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.600 It's a very contrasting look. 98 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:43.079 Now you got to bleach the beard. 99 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:45.600 Yeah, I'm I'm gonna. 100 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:46.160 I thought he did. 101 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.199 He was fresh faced, he had he was fresh spikey 102 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.120 bleach blonde hair. 103 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:54.160 Oh like Lance Bass, Yes, from Insane. 104 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.000 But he did not have facial hair lanced from InSync 105 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:01.079 he's he's insane. He's not giving. Justin Timber he's giving. 106 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:04.800 Yeah yeah, Lance Bass. That's why I said you're in sync? 107 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.800 He does. And you know what, I'm here when when 108 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.839 you got the black hair, you're given Joey Fatone from what? 109 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.079 Was he in sync? No? Or was he back? 110 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.399 It's killing me? Uh killing me? 111 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:21.480 Wait? 112 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:22.079 In that. 113 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:26.399 I actually met Joey Fatona. He was really cool. Man. 114 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:30.399 Let's see, he was really cool Joey fat One. He 115 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:31.199 was actually like. 116 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.079 Extremely chilling in sync. In sync? 117 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:36.560 There it is, you are literally in sync. 118 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:37.519 You're a boy star. 119 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.759 You're Alex boy wonder You're Alex. 120 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:44.399 You're a boy band star man. Yeah, you look like 121 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.839 it with the little camo shorts, he's barefoot. 122 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:49.879 And the cool epic shirt like you you look like 123 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:51.480 a one man boy band. 124 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:53.800 Dude. I think next time we have a like a 125 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:56.519 booth at a conference, we get Alex in this exact look, 126 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.160 frost tipped hair, get him curl keep the shirt, came 127 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:02.040 up past barefoot and we have a high rise chair 128 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:03.920 where people run through the line and pay a nickel 129 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:04.759 and they massage your. 130 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:08.519 Feet yeah yeah, yeah, or they pay a nickel to 131 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:09.920 like walk by and smell your. 132 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:15.160 Feet incredibly specific. So that's cool. I'm also just stoked 133 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.959 for how cool I'm gonna look, uh walking through the 134 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:21.519 airport with a surfboard bag. I think it's just like 135 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:24.279 the combination of the hair and the surfboard bag. I'm 136 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.680 gonna look like some professional surfer. 137 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.920 Dude, you need a walkman playing the gothic surfer. 138 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.680 I was actually the next thing on my list I 139 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:36.480 think is some real like Y two K Oakley's, like 140 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:38.839 the ones that just look fast. 141 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:39.240 You know. 142 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:44.399 Yeah, we're bringing at the two thousands. 143 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:48.920 Wow, you need all I'm telling you, they're coming back. 144 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.079 I just I was just shopping for board shorts. I'm 145 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:52.560 getting ready to go on a surf trip and I 146 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:55.519 was just shopping for board shorts. I'm going to Waco, Texas. 147 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:56.439 What the hell? 148 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:01.279 Yeah, dude, So you know how like en seam of 149 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:03.839 shorts has just been on the rise. 150 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:07.240 Like shorter and shorter and shorter. Right within my wife 151 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:08.920 keeps making me weard short short. 152 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:12.079 The young man community, right, they're going back the other way. 153 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:14.040 I'm telling you the Y two K stuff is making 154 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:17.839 a comeback. Because I'm on the surfboard or surf shorts 155 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:21.879 websites and everybody is selling twenty and twenty one inch 156 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.600 and seems like the bat got surf paints. 157 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:26.959 No, I was at Damn Zoomi's like a week or 158 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:29.279 two ago, buying new clothes. I swear to god, I 159 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.839 almost bought shorts that we're down to here. 160 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.920 Yeah, why we're going with the icp. 161 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:39.800 Yes and hot, dude, they look hot. I almost bottom. 162 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:43.000 I think I am going to buy a twenty one 163 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.800 inch seem board short just to look like the old. 164 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:47.759 I have an idea to watch. 165 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.759 I have an idea. Okay, now just hear me out. 166 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:53.839 You might want to put that back on for this 167 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:57.240 because it has to do with clowns. Okay, so this 168 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.680 is something that none of us are really experienced with, 169 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:02.879 but it might be a nice middle ground where we 170 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:06.639 could all meet and finally agree on something in unity. Okay, 171 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:08.439 I think we should all be Juggalos. 172 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.079 You do, yeah, really. 173 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.079 And we paint our face the whole faygo everything. 174 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:16.759 And we go to a concert. 175 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:18.959 Well, no, we just like do the show. But henceforth 176 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:22.720 we're Juggals because you got the jeords, the long pants 177 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.199 hit the fourth Yeah, I get the hot topic pants. 178 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:32.440 So we just become like a ICP podcast. Yeah, that's crazy. 179 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:33.639 Let's do it. 180 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:34.919 Yeah, let's do it. 181 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:39.440 And I'm sorry, I'm out. Oh yeah, I'm You're already 182 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:40.039 halfway there. 183 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.320 To look at you, I know you're a clown. I'm 184 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:44.919 just going a different direction. I think with my life. 185 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:49.840 You're going the all right, you're going the Matrix vibes. Yeah, 186 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:52.080 that's what I need to say, matrix word. But it's 187 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:59.080 a certain design, certain vibe that was popular. I don't 188 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:03.200 want to say it is canceled, certain apparel that people wore. 189 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.159 Have to f you know what I'm saying. Oh, I 190 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.559 get it, I get it. That looked like the Matrix 191 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:13.919 sick a certain group of individuals. Anyway, So what are 192 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.080 we talking about today? Yeah, I'm afraid that people tuning 193 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.399 into this episode are really looking for some deep material 194 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.480 about Rudolph Steiner. Whoa, So maybe we should shift in that. 195 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.519 Guys, just to make it clear, that's why I was 196 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:28.639 wearing the nose yeah Rudolph. 197 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:34.639 Uh all right, So once again explaining the costume, why 198 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:35.559 not can't escape? 199 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:37.679 I mean, if you don't, they might not ever get it. 200 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:38.399 Thank you. 201 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:40.919 Yeah, And besides, we just spent nine minutes explaining yours 202 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:44.120 your clown idiot, and you're a clown and you won't 203 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:45.519 even be a Juggalo man. 204 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:47.200 And you are a clown. 205 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.200 I'm sorry I said something I didn't realize. 206 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:56.080 It was just getting backfire double as hard, go back 207 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:57.159 home the clown world. 208 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:01.840 I just had to make you laugh. 209 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:06.879 So getting getting to the Steiner thing, it's a little hard, 210 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:11.159 Like Steiner's kind of a difficult subject because the thing 211 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:14.840 about Steiner is this one man similar to you know, 212 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:18.279 Helena Bolovotsky. But theosophy kind of became more of a 213 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:21.720 popular thing as far as like a school goes. Rudolf 214 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:23.759 Steiner is one of those things where it's like, you know, 215 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:28.919 people are into Nietzsche or you know, Emmanuel can't he's 216 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:30.279 he's kind of like a philosopher. 217 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.320 I was gonna say, it's like following a philosopher instead 218 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.840 of like a philosophic practice. It's like you're literally following 219 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:38.840 one dude. 220 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:42.559 Right, And Rudolf Steiner does have a practice. It's called anthroposophy, 221 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:47.000 and it is like pretty similar to theosophy with some 222 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:50.639 really cool distinctions. So I'm gonna just try to get 223 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.480 into all of that stuff. I'm in no way an 224 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.960 expert on Rudolf Steiner. I did actually read a couple 225 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:57.960 of his books today. Some of them are more like 226 00:10:57.960 --> 00:10:59.879 an essay format and they're pretty short, and then some 227 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.960 of them are like seven hour reads talking about audiobooks. 228 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.080 Some of them are like twenty minutes, some of them 229 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.120 are like an hour. There's a huge variation in his books, 230 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:09.799 but I think I got through about three of them today, 231 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:14.080 which is probably too many for one day, you know, 232 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:17.440 you know, but no, because it's like hard to remember 233 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:19.360 all of it when you're blowing through them. 234 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:20.600 Sure, but yeah. 235 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:23.440 So the thing about Steiner is he was actually a 236 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:27.759 Theosphist and he was a Rosicrucian. I'm pretty sure. Let 237 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:29.960 me let me, let me just double check that, because 238 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.399 he has entire books about Rosicrucianism, one of which I 239 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:34.440 read and it was extremely interesting. 240 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:36.159 What period of time was this man alive? 241 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:39.080 Late eighteen hundred's to like. 242 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:41.320 What I'm thinking. I was thinking nineteen. 243 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.320 Nineteen twenty five was when he passed. So he was 244 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.360 born in eighteen sixty one to nineteen. Wow, he really 245 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:46.960 didn't live that. 246 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.759 Long sixty to twenty I. 247 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.600 Mean, lived like sixty four years or something. 248 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:53.519 Well back, damn bro, that's you. 249 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:57.559 Born in eighteen hundred. I want to. 250 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:01.840 Verify seventy six. Oh, okay, expectancy currently. 251 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.639 Right, He was actually not, he was not initiated rosicrusion, 252 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.559 so similar to it. Yeah, he was very into it, 253 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.279 kind of like Manley P. Hall or Helena Blovotsky. So 254 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.360 Rudolph Steiner, he was born in nineteen sixty one. He 255 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:18.879 was Croatian. He was so at a very young age 256 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.000 he had this kind of an innate gift to you 257 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:25.120 could call it meditation whatever. He was just really entranced 258 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:28.159 with his inner world. He believed inherently as a child 259 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:32.480 that there was something different about like his inside world 260 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:36.440 in reality versus the external world. So that's that's kind 261 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:41.159 of the crux of his whole practice is like advancing meditation. 262 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:44.799 And the title of his greatest work, let me get it. 263 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:47.440 Because he has tons of books. It's like it's like 264 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:49.320 how to know higher worlds. 265 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:53.919 Rudolph Steiner fascinating thinking about a little little Croatian boy 266 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.120 who is just like so convinced that his internal world 267 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:02.799 is different from the outside world, pondering such like difficult 268 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.000 complex concepts that a little you know, it's a child. Yeah, yeah, 269 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.039 actually it was special. You know, like you're you're doing 270 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.360 something if you're doing that at such a young age, right, 271 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.279 reflecting in such a way the self awareness is wild. 272 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:20.519 Yeah, I agree, it's it's profound. And also the name 273 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:22.919 of the book was precisely how to know Higher Worlds? 274 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:25.799 And then he has another one knowledge of the higher 275 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.399 worlds and its attainment. So I'm just gonna kind of 276 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.399 talk loosely here for a moment. So, like I said, 277 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:34.279 Rudolph Steiner was a part of theosophy and he was 278 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:38.759 really into it. And there's kind of a controversy in 279 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:41.559 the sense that some people agree one way, some people 280 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:45.399 agree the other way. Rudolf Steiner claimed that he was 281 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:49.519 removed from theosophy. Oh wow, that he was like kind 282 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:53.440 of shunned, shunned, not in like a violent way, but 283 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.840 like your beliefs do not one hundred percent match with ours. 284 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:02.039 He claims that he was like removed. Other people claim 285 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:05.519 he just left. So I don't know. I'd probably take 286 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:07.519 his word for it, you know what I mean. True, 287 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.440 But yeah, so. 288 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.480 He's curious what drew you to Rudolf Steiner. 289 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:15.080 Well, yeah, I wanted to get into that, So thank 290 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:15.720 you for asking. 291 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:17.080 You're welcome your big brothers. 292 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:21.000 But the red nose it's pretty big. 293 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:22.360 I have a cold. 294 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.080 Oh really, it looks better to me. 295 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.240 I took Madison two seconds ago. 296 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:27.960 Oh true. Yeah, that polar. 297 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:30.759 Guys, we are so excited to tell you about our 298 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:35.039 first brand deal with Stigma Hemp. We are so pumped 299 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.399 to be working with them. These people are amazing. 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So in twenty let me get the date. 332 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:28.720 So twenty eighteen, Okay, So twenty eighteen I met doctor 333 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:31.759 Robert Gilbert, Rest in peace. He just passed away. Like 334 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:32.759 two or three months ago. 335 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:34.240 No, yeah, he did. 336 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.559 It was it was sudden. He was not even like 337 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.559 it wasn't expected, He's it wasn't like you know, older 338 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:43.120 or anything like that. It just kind of was like 339 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:44.200 a sudden shocking thing. 340 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:44.960 Wow. 341 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:49.480 And and it sent ripples throughout the esoteric community. I 342 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.200 mean I started seeing it all over social media, and 343 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:55.240 you know, I was pretty crushed by that because I 344 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:57.360 like my life was changed by meeting him. And he 345 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.759 was one of those people where I, I mean for years, 346 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:01.399 I and saying how I wanted him on the show, 347 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:05.279 and he was like very influential to me. So Doctor 348 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.880 Gilbert was a Rosicrucian and he had the Vesica Institute 349 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:14.440 in Nashville, North Carolina, and he was very into Rudolph 350 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.240 Steiner and a lot. 351 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:19.960 He kind of put you on a little bit. Yes, yeah, yes. 352 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.160 A decade ago, we were finding out about Steiner from 353 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:25.799 some friends of ours in the book, this guy named 354 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.680 Larry Larry Fieschela, who had introduced us to some of 355 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.279 these individuals in the CIA, like Jim Simmy Van and 356 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:36.279 John Alexander, one of the Projects Target guys. But they 357 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:40.599 would talk about Rudolf Steiner and theosophy and these kinds 358 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:47.039 of esoteric movements, and you know, by by having conversations 359 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:49.400 with Larry about this stuff, this Rudolf Steiner stuff, I 360 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:51.599 was like, this is pretty interesting and looking into it. 361 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:56.480 And a part of the Steiner system was about like beings, 362 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:58.519 like the only real thing in the universe is being 363 00:17:58.880 --> 00:17:59.319 a being? 364 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:00.359 Sure, yeah you know what I mean. 365 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.319 Yeah, the concept of being and that there are other beings, 366 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.000 angelic beings or deities or whatever. So he would be 367 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:09.640 talking to me about Rudolph Steiner and Rosicrucianism all these 368 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:11.200 years ago, and I didn't really get it. I was like, 369 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.559 this is cool, but I don't really get it. And 370 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:16.720 as years went on, obviously I got more into it 371 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:18.920 on a personal level and started researching it. So Steiner 372 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.079 has been on my radar for like a decade. Then 373 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:24.599 in twenty eighteen, I actually personally went and met doctor 374 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:29.480 Gilbert and you know, was for a very brief time 375 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:33.000 taking lessons with the Vesica Institute. Then life got busy. 376 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.119 I moved to Wilmington, I got this new job, and 377 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:36.960 it was like my life went in a completely different way. 378 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:39.440 And sometimes you don't know what's right in front of you, 379 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:41.640 and I kind of pushed it aside and moved on. 380 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:44.519 Same with Monroe for like a decade. I didn't do 381 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:47.160 anything with it. But yeah, so that was my introduction 382 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:51.960 to Steiner, and it's something that I have been personally 383 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.119 interested in for years. And there's been several episodes of 384 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:56.960 the show where I've talked about it, just not at length. 385 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:59.319 Sure you know what I mean as the focus, Yeah, yeah, 386 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:01.319 but in past yeah, absolutely right. 387 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:06.200 And if you read Rosicrucion manuals like a m R. 388 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:09.319 C uh, you know, if you go check their website 389 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:11.559 out and you you go through, like if you rouse 390 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.519 through their website and you start clicking all these different links, 391 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:16.200 some text will pop up. And the thing that's cool 392 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:23.200 about Rosicrucianism is and really all esoteric schools, is they're 393 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.480 not necessarily rigid in the sense that, at least with 394 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:29.799 the Rosicrusions, right, they're not necessarily rigid in the sense 395 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:37.160 that as times evolve, new disciplines develop that they blend 396 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:40.680 into their system. Right. Yeah, so even though you know, 397 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:44.839 so even though at least in you know, exoterk religious 398 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:49.480 exactly right, but at least with Rosicrucianism, as you know, 399 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:53.319 being in ancient order. Something that they have blended into 400 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:56.240 their system is like the teachings of Rudolf Steiner, the 401 00:19:56.279 --> 00:20:03.920