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Speaker 1: Creativity is an addiction, unplugged because we will always say

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yes to creativity, totally uncut because we all make mistakes.

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So let's turn it into a tool. This is arrow unplugged,

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hey Zaro, And this is vocal D. Vocal d fragging

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is asking yourself questions and then questioning your answers. I

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also keep a d frag journal where I write out

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the questions in the journal and then I answer them.

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I argue with myself. I sit there and I feel

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good or bad. I go through the emotional exchanges. Same

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thing with the vocal dfrag. But what I love most

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about the vocal dfrag is that you're preserving your inflection,

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the pitch, the volume of the tone. And I strongly

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suggest that you do that with your smartphone. Start using

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it as a great tool for you to share your

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personal thoughts, your visions, things that are moving through you.

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Come back and just listen to it, ask the questions

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and then question the answers. This is vocal D fragging.

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I've been hit today with several different angles of why

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you should be real listening to your heart. I did

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a commercial for Spotify today that was based on one thing,

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not podcasting in the way that people get on there

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to tell their jokes, or they do their famous people interviews,

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or or just get in there and just joke around

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with their friends, or to basically just talk about a product.

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My angle today was based one hundred percent on the

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advertiser because I was reminded that the reason why I

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got into podcasting in twenty twelve was because I was

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trying to design a platform for advertisers who were spending

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a boatload of money for thirty second and sixty second commercials.

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So I thought podcasting would be such a great angle

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to take our advertisers too, And in twenty twelve, that

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big old broadcasting company looked at me and said, yeah,

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I don't get it, man, I don't get what you're doing,

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but keep trying. And so I kept trying, and the

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more I tried, the more I got into those famous

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people interviews and doing things like we're doing right now.

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But at the same time, I documented something inside another

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journal that I keep, which is called stream Thinking, and

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it wanted to know why I was doing this storytelling

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of this forest, this tiny forest in South Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: And the answer that I came up with.

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Speaker 1: Was was kind of odd because it was based on

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one thing. When I'm gone, all of the energy that

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the forest and I shared will be gone as well.

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And the forest has been speaking so loudly to me

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over the past couple of weeks that it says, write

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the story. If you don't write the story, then no

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one will know of what happened here in nineteen ninety two,

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growing forward, because what's going to happen to my daily writing?

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If I know my wife, she's probably going to get

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rid of the daily writing at the time of my

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passing because it takes up a lot of room in many,

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many protective boxes. So I have felt it in my

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heart for the past couple of weeks, share the story

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of this forest. I did a fourth episode this morning,

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and I'm still going, what the hell are you doing?

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So I bring this to you. When you get into

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those moments of what the hell am I doing? How

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far do you take that? Do you lean into it

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even more? Because you're trying to locate the real source

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of the energy. What the hell are you doing? My

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dad used to ask me that question all the time.

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He'd walk into my room, he'd walk out into the

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chicken hut with me. Well, in the chicken hut. I

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was out there with a garden hose, and I was

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singing in one end and on the other end it

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was going into my ear because it created an echo.

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What the hell was I doing? I was singing, I

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was being creative. I'd like to hear that little delay

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because it made me sound like I was live in concert.

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What the hell are you doing? How far do you

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push yourself before you finally say, well, what the hell

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I was doing is exactly that. It was what I

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was doing, and there was no payoff. And I often

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wonder about those payoffs.

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Speaker 2: What is it that.

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Speaker 1: We're truly looking for when we set out to accomplish

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something and it doesn't reach that one particular level. I

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get really super jealous of these carpenters and these construction

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workers that follow these gigantic maps. This is the way

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it's supposed to be, this highway, this house, But does

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it really achieve that level. I mean, we may not

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see it because we're not trained to see it. I

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call them easter eggs at the grocery store. I can

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be walking through that store and see something that's completely

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out of place, but a billion people have walked by

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and have done nothing about it. What the hell are

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you doing? What are you doing in your life that

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you see that you're feeling energy from, and yet the

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only thing that's happening is you. Nobody else is participating,

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and if they were, it might be a judgment call,

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but that in itself serves as fuel in the way

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of well should I continue doing this? Or what I mean?

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A guy walking through a forest into a telephone, what

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the hell are you doing? Well, it's called vocal d fragging.

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Vocal D fragging came to me because of a breakdown.

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I was putting it on paper, but then I was

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talking to all of these actors and musicians and artists

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and they said, well, what is vocal D fragging? I

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want to participate with it. I couldn't put my journals

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out there because what of my journals have to do

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with you? So therefore we created vocal D fragging in

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a way of saying, what the hell.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Why the hell are you doing it? Do you really

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need to be doing it? Is there a payoff? Or

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do you really want a payoff? Sometimes we do things

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to do to find our place to be in a

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place of acceptance by way of saying, yeah, I did it,

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what do you want to do about it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do it again.

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Speaker 1: For instance, like the day that I became an artist

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on canvas was a total accident. It was because I

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spilled ink on my daily writing and it took the

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shape of a perfect wine glass. To this day, when

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I see that picture or that painting, I go, the

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hell was I thinking? Most people would rip it out

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of the journal and throw it away, but no, I

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had to preserve it because it changed my life forever.

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So in asking what the hell are you doing, maybe

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we should say what the hell would you like to

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be doing?

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Speaker 2: And how much time and energy you're going to place

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into it.

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Speaker 1: We've all been convinced that there has to be a

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return on the investment.

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Speaker 2: I get it, that's business. I've talked with directors.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the director of the new John Travolta movie

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mob Land, we talked about the business side of making movies.

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We've talked about the business side of a grocery store.

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I get it, there's got to be some sort of

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return on the investment. But the situation is based on

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one more thing, you yourself and the energy that you have,

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and how much of it are you willing to spend

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in order to do what the hell you want to do.

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When my wife retired from being a school teacher, the

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woman at the Social Security office said, hey, welcome to

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a new life. You now have the power of choice.

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I remember listening to that phone conversation, and I was

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moved by it, just like I was moved by the

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ink spilling on the piece of paper that took the

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shape of a wineglass. Moved because welcome to the power

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of choice. At that moment is when I said, I

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will never work another job again. That's my choice. See,

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I do have an essential job. I do do things

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with the movie promotion company. I do do things with

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my mobile DJ service. But it's not a job. It's

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a choice. I make a choice to do that, and

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changing my mindset of what the hell am I doing

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it really gives me a better opportunity to enjoy the

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love that is shared in the things that I'm doing. Yeah,

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being at a grocery store what a pain in the ass, right? Not? Really,

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there's a lot of stories there. There's a lot of

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everyday average people combined with jazz people, famous people, unknown people,

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old people, young people. They're all coming into this place

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and they've all got something to share. And if you

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take the time to listen, my God, the return on

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the investment is just mind blowing because you see for

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yourself what a true community is. It's not like going

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to a church. I love me some church, okay, But

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church people they dress up and they put on their

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little candy coat of plastic, bathroom mere smiles, they bring

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the little Bible. They do things like them, but it's

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not sharing to reality now. The moment they get in

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their car after the preacher man has talked, that's when

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reality sets in. But at a grocery store, there's reality there.

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What the hell are you doing? I ask myself that

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every time I go to this grocery store, what the

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hell are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm being with my community.

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Speaker 1: I'm charging up my batteries as a writer, as a

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creative person, I'm like hanging out with other people that

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are also created. They're just not talking about it. I'm

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listening to their stories. I'm watching them come into the

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store at odd ball hours and then when I say

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something to them, they're going, whoa, You actually noticed that

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I came in here at this time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really did.

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Speaker 1: So on this episode of Vocal DFRAG, I really do

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want you to ask the question what the hell are

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you doing? And in the moments of trying to come

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up with an answer. The goal is to find yourself

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in a place of discovery as well as recovery, because

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your life is going to get stronger when you find

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yourself being more truthful with yourself, instead of buying things

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to cover things up, instead of going on to social media,

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and finding yourself in that place of well, if I

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say this, I've released all my statement. Hey, look, if

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there's some things that are pissing you off in the world,

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I get it. You're not supposed to talk about politics,

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you're not supposed to talk about religion.

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Then put it in a defragged journal, not necessarily a

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vocal journal, because there's a lot of stuff in the

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political world that you don't need to be saying, because

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you're going to create a storm that's going to ruin

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a lot of relationships.

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Speaker 2: Don't be doing that. What the hell are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Ask the question, question the answer, find yourself in the mirror,

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Aye Marrow, And that spoke Wi D Frank