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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to

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welcome back to the show returning champion, arguably the ultimate

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returning champion because he's the one who's been on the

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show the most. Darryl Anka Hi doing, Darryl.

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Speaker 2: Good, Alex, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, my friend, I'm good. You are, as they

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say in the in the sphere of Next Level Soul

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and OG. You were one of the very first episodes

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i've my first guests. I think you were episode eight.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I don't quite keep track, but yeah,

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but thank you for having me again. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Always, always people love when we have our conversations, and today,

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I mean, we've covered so much on the other episodes

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we've gone had before, but this time I really want

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to kind of go I want to take you and

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Bashar his teachings into the deep end of the spiritual pool,

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like let's go deep, deep, deep, That's where I want

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to go with it. So first, first question for you, sir,

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is how can we best align our higher self in

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the middle of the everyday chaos and responsibilities of everyday life.

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Speaker 2: You know, Bashar's likened the idea of the chaos that

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we're experiencing like learning to ride the rapids in a river.

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When you understand how to ride the rapids, how to

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maintain your balance, the rapids are moving you down river

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much more quickly than you otherwise would go, so ultimately

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it will empty out into a calm river where everything

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then just flows peacefully. But the idea is to learn

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to ride the rapids so you can get where we're

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going much faster. And the way to do that is

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to approach all your challenges in life with curiosity, creativity,

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and calmness, staying in a positive state so you can

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get a benefit out of the experience even though chaos

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is all around. It is the symptom of the end

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of one cycle and the beginning of a new cycle.

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Because everything is breaking apart, everything is coming apart of

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the seams, everything is being reorganized, everything is being rearranged.

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The old systems are falling apart. The new systems will

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have then an ability to come in and replace them,

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so Yeah, transition is a chaotic time, but that's what

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we're going through. We're going through a transition. We're going

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through a reset of humanity over the next couple of decades.

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And on Earth, this is kind of the way it

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expresses itself because Earth is a school of polarities. So

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it's nothing to be afraid of, but it's something you

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can use. You just have to learn to stay in

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balance as you're riding the rapids, and you'll make it

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downstream that much faster. What's coming will come that much

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more quickly.

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Speaker 1: But how about for those who are having major anxiety

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and fear around all this kind of stuff that's happening

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around us, because it does. You're right, the old systems,

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you can see it crumbling. I mean, you and I

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both come from Hollyweird. We both worked in the industry

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for a long time. And the new technologies that are

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coming out. I don't know if you've seen the new

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AI video to AI that just came out by Google

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and many others. It's a game, I mean, and this

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is just the beginning of it. I can imagine where

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we're going to be in three to four years, where

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anybody can create avatar or anyone can create Star Wars

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on their laptop with sound effects and dialogue and you know,

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probably good performances. Yeah right, so we see that happening

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all around us. So what do you? How do you?

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What advice do you and Bashar's teachings have for people

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who are fearful and anxious about all of.

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Speaker 2: Them, but fearful of what is the question?

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Speaker 1: Because full of change?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess well, you know a lot of people

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are fearful of change. But the idea is change is

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the only constant in the universe, so everything always changes.

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We've always experienced it. I know there's a lot of

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resistance to it, but the idea is that that resistance

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is the product of holding onto fear based beliefs that

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are often simply irrational. It doesn't mean that what you're

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afraid of is actually factually going to happen. A lot

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of times the fear, in fact, will manufacture a negative result.

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how you experience your reality, then you can start letting

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go of the fear because the fear is actually creating

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what you don't want. It's kind of like the idea

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of a self fulfilling prophecy. When you stay in the

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vibration of fear, then the things that bolster that fear

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start being attracted to you. You start reinforcing that energy.

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of resonance. Everything is about vibration, Everything is about frequency.

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If you don't prefer to experience things that reflect and

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reinforce the idea of a fearful belief system, then choose

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something different, because the universe doesn't care what you choose.

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It's unconditionally supportive. So if you say I'm going to

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buy into these fear based and negative beliefs about my

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life and my experience and what's going on, the universe

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is going to say, okay, I'm going to reinforce that

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and support you in that. But if you decide to say,

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you know what, I'd rather look at the idea that

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there's a positive side. I can learn a positive lesson,

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that I can learn something from this that will move

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me forward, that will help me grow, help me expand

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I can approach this challenge with curiosity, with creativity, then

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the universe is going to say, okay, I'll support you

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in that too. So it kind of comes down to

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understanding that this is how reality works. This is how

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the universe works. It doesn't care what you choose. It

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will support you in either case. So you might as

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well choose a more positive state of being. Why not,

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because then the universe will support you in that, and

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all the reflections you get will at least be reflections

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that give you an opportunity to extract a benefit from

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what's going on. Underlying all chaos are patterns. They may

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not be visible on the surface right away, but they

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are there, and so you have to be in a

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positive state to see the pattern and use the patterns

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and extract something beneficial from the patterns that are embedded

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in underlying what appears on the surface to be something chaotic.

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We're in charge, we're in the driver's seat. We have

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to choose how we're driving our vehicle, and if we

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decide to do it negatively, then it's going to be

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a bumpy road. If we decide to do it positively,

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then we're not as affected by the bumps because we're

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getting something out of it. Then it's more like, Okay,

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I'm on a roller coaster, but I enjoy roller coasters

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because it's a fun ride. At the end of it,

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I have had a thrill, and I wind up where

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I need to be. So it really is all how

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you approached what's going on. Bashar always reminds us, Look,

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there's no built in meaning to physical reality. It's a

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set of props. They're neutral. You decide the meaning. You know,

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we automatically train people to go, oh, if this happens,

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it's bad. If this happens, you know, that's good. But

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you know, there's that old story of the idea of

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you know, oh, you know, my son was riding a

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horse and he fell off and broke his leg. That's bad,

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and you know, the wise master goes, well, we'll see,

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and then later you find out that he would have

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been drafted into the army and probably killed, but because

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of his broken leg, he's saved. You know, ohthough, that's good,

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and the zen master goes, we'll see. So it's just

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about constantly understanding that everything can serve double duty, and

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that if you stay in a positive state, then you're

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navigating into that direction and those will be the opportunities

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that will open up for you to help you continue

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that positive arc, whereas if you go into a negative thing,

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you'll just keep spiraling downward, because that's the nature of physics.

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What you put out is what you get back. Physical

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reality is a mirror.

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Speaker 2: Recently. You know, Bashar put it a little bit more

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poetically by saying, look, God is a mirror. What you

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put out is what's reflected to you. It's not creating

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a mind of its own. It doesn't contradict you. So

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you are the one that's in charge. You are what

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gives meaning to life. You decide what the meaning is,

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and the meaning you put into it is the experience

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you get out of it. So I think when people

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understand that, when they really wrap their mind around that concept,

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then they can get control of the idea of well,

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why am I afraid of this? It's just a story

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that my negative belief is telling me to buy into.

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doesn't have to be a true story. I can decide

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what the ending of this story is, and I can

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decide what the experience I'm having along the way. So

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make a decision and stick with it and understand how

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things work, and you can get a benefit out of

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everything that's happening, doesn't matter what it.

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Speaker 1: Is, beautifully said. Sir beautifully said, I have to ask

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you because I don't get to ask this question often,

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and we kind of touched upon it a little bit.

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Is what's happening to our old industry of Hollywood and

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of you know, mainstream media. It seems before we were like,

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oh yeah, it's kind of falling apart. The jobs are

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going away. It's not this or that, But now it's

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really after these last couple of weeks. Ever since I

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saw that AI stuff, I'm like, oh my god, it's Detroit,

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LA is going to turn into Detroit. So I'd love

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to hear what you think about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, AI is a tool like anything. There

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are people who will learn to use it and people

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who are using it, just like you know, when some

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other technology came out and now it's like, well now

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we don't really see film anymore, we only have video,

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you know. But people learn to adapt, People learn how

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to use it creatively. It doesn't kill the creativity. It

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expands your imagination. How can I use this new tool.

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But it does call on humans to raise their imagination

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and raise their perspective and their creativity to a new

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level to use these new tools which can take us farther.

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So is the industry changing, Yes, absolutely, of course, but

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it's changed many times over the course of its history,

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and people have always adapted. Now, yeah, you know, the

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older generations that are maybe used to doing it the

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older ways, they may not necessarily adapt as easily. But

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the new kids coming in will be brought up with

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the technology, it will be natural for them and they'll

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figure out ways to use it. I mean, one example

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of this is the idea of you know, how are

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the presentation of these creative images going to be utilized.

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in an unprecedented way, a very incredibly high definition way.

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new way to present things. When people are in that environment,

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when the image is all around you and is presented

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as literally reality around you, your brain does something different

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a reality. And then when they present something to you

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that's created by AI this imagery of outer space and

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other dimensions and wormholes and whatever, your brain starts getting

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adapted to the idea of that as a reality. And

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so in a sense, this technology can actually prepare us

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to expand our consciousness to be able to stretch into

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the idea of perceiving other realities, perceiving other dimensions. So

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what movies are may change, but that doesn't mean there

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won't be some form of presentation that humanity can get

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a benefit from. All we have to do is figure

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out what do we want to do with that and

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how does it help the evolution of humanity by presenting

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it in new ways that upgrade our brains to be

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able to perceive and experience different kinds of things than

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just sitting in a movie theater. There will always be stories.

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This is the planet of stories. It just depends on

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how they're going to be told. So we just have

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to find and create the new jobs that will allow

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us to tell stories in a new way.

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Speaker 1: So we're all heading towards the holid deck is essentially

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where we're all going towards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? I think predicted that quite accurately.

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Speaker 1: Oh mean, you predicted a lot of things quite accurately,

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you know, except the beaming up and beaming down yet.

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We haven't got that locked in yet.

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Speaker 2: But that's coming coming, It's coming. And in fact, I

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have actually spoken to a scientist many years ago who

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was actually working on that, and it was crude at

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the time, and you know, it wasn't exactly what they

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were trying to do, but they did manage to transport

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things from one terminal to another terminal in the same room,

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but things didn't come out the right way.

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Speaker 1: We saw the fly, we saw the fly.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, however, they did actually sell all of that

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to the military. So who knows where it's at at

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this point, because I'm sure it was classified immediately, so

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you know, I would say somewhere within the next century

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we'll probably have that's.

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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty remarkable. I was watching some I was

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watching some new AI because there's a new AI every

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fifteen minutes that pops out, and how it literally can

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look at your video. So this flat screen that you're

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on right now, you and I, it will literally create

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the different angles as it goes around, so it's like

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almost like a camera going around you all the way,

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and the AI is just recreating your background. So I'm like, well,

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if that's the case, then the Shining or Jurassic Park

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or any of these older movies you'll be able to

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be transported into arguably and you can live the movie

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or be in the movie. That's another way of presenting

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these stories.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, you brought up the idea of

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the Holo deck. You know, there's one of the imagineers

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at Disney, I believe his last name is Smooth invented

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in a sense, a unidirectional treadmill.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I saw you saw that, Yeah, I just saw it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So if like the Holo deck, right, you

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could just be walking walking, walking, or feel like you're

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walking for miles and miles and miles and not going anywhere,

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but the images around you can as if you're walking

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somewhere else, but you're still just walking in the same spot.

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No matter what direction you turn in, it'll feel like

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you're walking, but you actually won't be going anywhere. So

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Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty it's it's pretty insane. It's pretty insane.

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Speaker 2: What's happening.

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Speaker 1: So Bashar talks a lot about following your highest excitement

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or or like what Joseph Campbell says, following your bliss,

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it's something similar. What does that actually look like for

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someone who's stuck in a nine to five job that

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they're not happy with? What advice do you have for

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those people?

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Speaker 2: Bashar always says, Look, if you don't believe that following

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your passion can support you in life, then it's not

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a good idea to leave what you believe you need

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or support. You have to honor your belief system. Otherwise

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it's like jumping off a cliff without a parachute. You'll

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just go splat at the bottom. But what he suggests,

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while you're holding on to something that you're not necessarily

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enjoying doing but you feel you need for support in life,

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at least takes some time to find some way now

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and then to act on your passion as often as

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you possibly can within your schedule, Because over time, when

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you do take some time to act on your passion

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where you can taking it as far as you can

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in the time you have, you will over time allow

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your passion to start demonstrating that it can support you

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you'll start getting the feedback, you'll start attracting the opportunities

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that will then come to you to say, look, you

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could decide to do this a little more often, here's

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an opportunity to do so. And as you build that up,

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it'll kind of snowball into something where more and more

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opportunities will come to allow you to do the things

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that you're truly passionate about. And what will come with

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that will be the necessary support that will allow you

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to continue to do that. So you can prove to

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yourself that your passion will support you over a short

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amount of time or over a longer amount of time.

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You can do it at your own pace. He doesn't

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necessarily mean that, Okay, you should quit your job today, No,

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because that could leave you destitute. So honor your belief system.

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But you have to be honest within yourself about what

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you do believe is possible. If you really believe, look,

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I need the job I'm doing in order to support

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myself and my family, then by all means, don't quit,

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but at least give yourself an opportunity to demonstrate to

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yourself that your passion could possibly support you by doing

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the best you can to act on it. Whenever you

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can within your schedule, make some time to do that.

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However short that time is, it'll build over time. The

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pace of that transformation is completely in your hands. It's

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up to you.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show. So let me ask

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you this, what is the real reason so many people

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keep repeating the same patterns even after years of therapy

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in healing or quote unquote healing that they've had.

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Speaker 2: Bashard talks about the idea of the motivational mechanism within

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each and every one of us, and the way he

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describes it as this. The motivational mechanism is you will always,

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without fail and immediately move and choose in the direction

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of what you believe will benefit you. You will always, immediately,

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without fail no exceptions, move away from what you believe

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does not benefit you. Now, the operative word here is believe,

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because obviously, if people keep choosing things, repeating patterns that

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are negative, no matter what what he's saying is, then

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that means there's a belief within you that that serves

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you better than the alternative. As uncomfortable as it may be,

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you may have an unconscious belief that the alternative will

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actually cause something worse to happen. So as uncomfortable as

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what you continue to choose may be, you will continue

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to choose it because by comparison, it feels safer. So

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you have to find out what you believe you are

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afraid will happen if you actually let go of that

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and start doing something different, Because many people do have

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unconscious fears that if they start acting on their passion,

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for example, they'll be too different, no one will like them,

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they'll lose their friends, they won't have enough money, et cetera,

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et cetera, et cetera. It scares them to move forward.

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Like you said, you know, people are afraid of change,

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are afraid of the unknown, because they have these ideas

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that something worse will happen. At least where you are,

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as uncomfortable as it may be, is familiar and safe

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because you are familiar with it, You know what it

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is going to bring you, and it may allow you

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to feel a little bit like you're stagnating. But again,

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the idea is, if you have a belief that the

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alternative would cause something even worse to happen, you will

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stay firmly where you are no matter what, you have

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to get in touch with why you believe that the

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alternative would be much worse than what you're experiencing, because

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when you expose that, then you'll start to see, by

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a various number of ways of investigating it, that it's nonsensical.

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so you won't let it go, because beliefs have to

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perpetuate themselves in order for you to have a physical

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reality experience. So positive beliefs, we don't care that they

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reinforce themselves because we like what positive beliefs tell us.

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But the negative beliefs can only use negative methodologies to

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reinforce themselves, so it makes you afraid to let it

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go by feeding you stories that well, if you let

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this go, if you change, something really bad is going

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to happen. So you might as well stay safe and

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stay right here where you are, and I'll protect you.

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I won't let anything bad happen to you. That's the

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story the negative belief is telling you. But if you

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know it's just a story, not a fact, and you

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know the reason it's happening is because the negative belief

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is just doing what is designed to do so you

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won't let it go. That's how it perpetuates itself. Then

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you can start understanding, well, if it's just a story,

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I can really choose to buy into any story that

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I prefer. And this goes back to what I said before.

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The universe doesn't care what you choose. It's unconditionally supportive.

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So if you say, Okay, I'm going to give up

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this negative story, this negative belief that something bad's gonna happen,

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if I actually move in this direction that I say

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I want to move into, and then the universe will go, well, Okay,

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you've made that decision. I will support you in that decision.

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And if suddenly you find that your worst fear, your

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worst nightmare, does come true, it's not because you moved

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in the direction of your passion. It's because you didn't.

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It's because you actually reinforced the negativity. You actually stayed

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even in a more negative vibration because you brought the

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fear with you. You didn't really let it go and

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move into your passion. All you did was reinforce the

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idea of see, I told you something bad was going

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to happen, because that's the deep seated belief you have

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within you. So you really have to have an honest,

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deep self investigation to find out what those beliefs are

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and truly understand that they're not necessary to hold on to.

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You can't bring them with you.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's a vicious, sir, because you kind

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of are reinforcing the same belief system again and again.

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And the more you do that, the more it's telling you. You, see,

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this is what happens when you change you see, this is.

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Speaker 2: What happens exactly. But that's all part of the negative belief.

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Once you truly understand that you can let it go,

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that doesn't happen anymore.

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Speaker 1: Now, what does Bashar say about forgiveness, especially when it

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feels like it's impossible to forgive something that someone's done

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to you.

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Speaker 2: Not forgiving is like dragging an anchor behind you trying

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to run a marathon. It is actually something that traps

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you to that negative vibrational energy. It's almost not even

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about what the other person may have done. Yes, that's involved,

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but it's like saying, look, a jailer may have a

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prisoner in a cell, but the jailer has to stay

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in the prison to watch the prisoner too. So the

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jailer is as much a prisoner as the prisoner is.

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So forgiveness is really letting go of the need for

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revenge for that kind of energy and realizing that it

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is trapping you in a negative space. It's not about

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condoning what a perpetrator may have done, what someone may

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have done, It's not condoning it. A lot of people

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think that, well, if I forgive you, then I'm accepting

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what you've done as a negative thing. No, but forgiveness

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is freeing yourself from that negative energy of being stuck

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in that negative relationship with someone. So it's more about

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giving yourself the breathing room to really move forward from

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that experience and not being stuck in a relationship that

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doesn't allow you to be who you are because you're

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not seeking I'm going to have to pay you back

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for that, you know, or anything like that. I'm going

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to have to hold a grudge, you know, because of

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what you did. You have to understand people have their

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own path and you have to choose what path you

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really prefer in life, and keeping a grudge not forgiving,

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is really mimicking and mirroring the negative path that someone

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else presented to you. So it's like, well, now you're

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living their life, now you're living their energy. You have

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to really break that chain and let that go. And

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that's really what forgiveness is about. Again, it's not condoning

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something someone does did, it's it's about freeing yourself from

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being stuck in the energy of being a victim.

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Speaker 1: Well, the one thing I hear a lot about forgiveness,

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but the one thing I haven't heard many people talk

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about is the sadness. So let's say someone does something

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to you and you forgive them, but you're still sad,

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sadened by what happened or how they treated you. You've

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let go of it, you have no ill will towards them,

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but you're just sad at the situation, which happens all

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the time. Is there any advice for that?

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Speaker 2: That's an oxymoron. If you're still sad, you haven't let go,

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because what you're now doing is you're judging yourself or

476
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,759
having gotten into the situation, and that may be Actually

477
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:26,839
what you're sad about is the idea that how did

478
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,000
I get here? Why did I do that to myself?

479
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You know, And now you're just taking the judgment you

480
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,079
were throwing at them, and you're throwing it at yourself,

481
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,759
so you really haven't let it go, because if you

482
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:40,359
truly let it go, you won't feel sadness. You will

483
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:46,039
feel compassion for the situation. You will have understanding that

484
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,160
they didn't understand what they were doing. You will look

485
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,279
at them more like you would look at a child

486
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:55,160
who makes a mistake. They're still learning. You would look

487
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,039
at it from a much higher spiritual point of view.

488
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,039
They're on a path where there's still learning a lesson.

489
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,160
I can relate to that, I can understand it, and

490
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,480
I can have compassion for what they're going through. But

491
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,039
what reason do I have to be sad because a

492
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,720
child made a mistake.

493
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Speaker 1: Beautifully said thank you for that? Now? How can we

494
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,759
distinguish between a sole aligned opportunity that presents itself sometimes

495
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:24,720
by the universe or a distraction dressed up as an

496
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opportunity to.

497
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Speaker 2: Get a great question? And I know it happens all

498
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:32,640
the time, But again, it requires real self honesty to

499
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,279
know the difference, because you have to be able to

500
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:39,519
have the discernment to know when synchronicity is telling you no,

501
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,640
not right now, even though this may be representative of

502
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,960
your passion, this isn't the time to act on it,

503
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:49,960
and the difference between that and procrastination because you're actually

504
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,279
afraid of moving forward.

505
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

506
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:00,440
and now back to the show.

507
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Speaker 2: So again, this requires real transparency within yourself, and all

508
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,559
you really have to do to figure that out is

509
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,000
ask the question, why why am I hesitating to do this?

510
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,279
Why am I acting on this instead of that what

511
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,000
is my passion? Is this really my passion? Or is

512
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this keeping me from my passion because I'm afraid to

513
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,680
act on my passion. So it's really about asking the

514
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:33,160
right questions in kind of a self examining meditation to

515
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,119
find out what the truth is and being willing to

516
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:40,480
hear the truth within you. Because when people are really

517
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:43,319
willing to hear the truth within themselves and they ask

518
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,480
the right questions, they'll get the right answers, They'll be

519
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:50,519
honest and they'll say, yeah, you know, I'm dragging my

520
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:52,880
feet here. Why am I dragging my feet? What am

521
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,359
I afraid of? Because something that you're really passionate about,

522
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,920
you would never stop. You would never drag your feet,

523
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000
you would never avoid it, you would do everything you

524
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:04,480
could to act on it to have it manifest. So

525
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,440
it's really about taking stock, taking a pause, taking a moment,

526
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,039
and going, Okay, what I'm doing here? Is this really

527
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,200
what my passion is about? Or am I procrastinating? Am

528
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720
I taking a longer route than I need to? What

529
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,960
am I processing? Within myself? If I changed my belief

530
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,920
about something, would I go faster? Would I choose something different?

531
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,920
This is kind of a subset of what Mishar has

532
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,799
called the threshold of believability tests, and the way he

533
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,880
sort of described this is, Okay, let's say there's something

534
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,119
you're passionate about, and I will ask a question of myself,

535
00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:50,480
do I really believe that I can manifest this? And

536
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:54,279
you pick a timeframe that is well outside what you

537
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,039
believe is possible. So it's like, can I manifest this

538
00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:59,960
in twenty years? Sure, of course, that would be easy.

539
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,880
Can I manifest it in fifteen years? Yes? Absolutely, that's

540
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:06,880
more than enough time to do that. Can I manifest

541
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,400
it in ten years? The second you hesitate to answer

542
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:17,400
yes immediately, there is a belief system there that says

543
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,960
it can't happen sooner. Now that could be for positive

544
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,519
or negative reasons, but you can look for the belief.

545
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,319
What would I have to believe is true that this

546
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,640
won't happen for ten years or or whatever. When you

547
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,680
find out what that belief is and you say, well,

548
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:35,400
because I thought I had to do it this way,

549
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:39,519
or somebody told me that this was impossible, or you know,

550
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:42,640
I don't have enough money to do this xyz or whatever.

551
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:45,599
Once you eliminate that belief, you take the test again.

552
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Do I believe that this can manifest within twenty years? Yes,

553
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,720
fifteen years, no problem, ten years. Absolutely, with my new

554
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,359
belief system, I absolutely know for a fact that it

555
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:57,000
would be easy to manifest this in ten years. How

556
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:01,759
about five years, yes, no problem. Three years maybe again

557
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:05,279
as soon as you hesitate, that's how long it will

558
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,960
take with your present belief system. Find out if there's

559
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,119
another belief you can let go of that you may

560
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,400
be procrastinating, you may be dragging your feet. Find out

561
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,079
what that belief is. When you keep reducing this down

562
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240
and you have let go of all the beliefs that

563
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,559
would have anything to do with being afraid, with procrastinating,

564
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,920
with holding yourself back, then whatever time is left, that's

565
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,640
the time it needs to take. That's the time that

566
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,759
gives you the chance to process and appreciate and achieve

567
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:38,440
what you need to achieve by going through a process

568
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,480
that will actually allow you to truly understand and truly

569
00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:46,799
appreciate how this manifested and that will be the lesson

570
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,720
you needed to learn in this life path. So you

571
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:53,559
can reduce the amount of time. You can speed things

572
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,400
up by letting go of any reasons you have to

573
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,759
hold yourself back or to procrastinate. But again, it comes

574
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,759
down to having an honest self dialogue with why you're

575
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,559
choosing to do what you're doing and is it the

576
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:11,079
thing you actually wish to be doing or are you

577
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,000
just peddling and wasting time because you're afraid to move

578
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:16,559
forward for one reason or another.

579
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Has Bishard spoken about how to really surgically go into

580
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:29,519
your belief systems you're programming and pull those out because

581
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,199
a lot of times you know as well as I do,

582
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,320
that our subconscious is running the show, and we have

583
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,840
belief systems and programmings that we're running on that have

584
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:39,719
we have no idea we were running on. How do

585
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,280
we how do we find them to actually to get

586
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:43,840
rid of them?

587
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: Well, that's what's so beautiful about the formula because it's

588
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,519
an instruction manual that within it contains what will bring

589
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,039
those beliefs to your attention. So what he says is,

590
00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:00,360
remember the formula is you act on your passion first.

591
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:02,960
You act on it to the best you can, taking

592
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,519
it as far as you can till you can act

593
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:06,880
on it no longer. You make sure you're not the

594
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,360
one dampening the excitement. If it's waning, it's just naturally waning.

595
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,400
Then that means you look for the next thing that

596
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:15,840
you're excited about and start acting on that the best

597
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400
you can. You act on it with no insistence or

598
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,920
assumption of the outcome, because you don't know what the

599
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,599
ideal outcome really needs to look like. You stay in

600
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,239
a positive state no matter what manifests so that you

601
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,000
can get a benefit out of it. Like we talked

602
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,159
about before, But the fifth element of the formula is

603
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:38,960
the reflective mirror. As you're acting on your passion, the

604
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:42,639
reflective mirror within the formula will bring your attention to

605
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,079
anything that you do contain in your subconscious or unconscious

606
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,719
mind that is out of alignment with that passion, with

607
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,719
that vibration, and suddenly you will feel like, Oh, a

608
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,880
fear came up. Oh I've got stopped somehow. It's bringing

609
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,880
to your attention in the process of acting on your

610
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,280
excitement anything that isn't your excitement, it actually makes you

611
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,280
feel like, oh, where did that come from? It literally

612
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:14,119
bubbles up from your unconscious mind so you can deal

613
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:16,440
with it, so you can say, oh, okay, this is

614
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:22,519
not an obstruction in my passion. Finding out what isn't

615
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,840
my passion, in my beliefs is part of my passion.

616
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,920
So then it gives you a chance to act on

617
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,639
it and to observe it and to investigate it and

618
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,280
let it go. So it's an automatic reaction within the

619
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,360
formula to acting on your passion is that it brings

620
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,800
your attention, It bubbles up unconscious beliefs from within you

621
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:46,679
and makes you feel suddenly like you've been stopped. But

622
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,559
it's an opportunity to go, Okay, time to pause, deal

623
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,480
with this feeling where did that come from? Because again, remember,

624
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,679
all feelings generate from what you believe to be true.

625
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,039
There's no such thing as an emotion that exists it

626
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,880
than a vacuum. It's always about something that you believe

627
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,079
to be true about yourself. In the present situation, So

628
00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:10,559
it gives you an opportunity to have that bubble up,

629
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,639
to stop, deal with it, let it go, and then

630
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:17,320
you're adding that energy to the momentum of your passion

631
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,480
and you'll accelerate forward. So it's a self contained, self

632
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:26,559
guiding formula that he gives everyone. It automatically brings those

633
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:30,280
things to your attention. Again, if you're willing to hear it,

634
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,000
it will come up.

635
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: How do relationships, romantic or otherwise help us evolve spiritually?

636
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:39,239
And what is the purpose of the toxic ones that

637
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,199
we all have had at one point or another in

638
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,760
our lives.

639
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,679
Speaker 2: Well, the simple answer is to learn to avoid them.

640
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,800
So you know, to learn how to deal with things

641
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,920
that are not your vibration by understanding more clearly what

642
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,280
your vibration of preference actually is, by being exposed to

643
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,840
more clearly what it is. So it's the whole polarity game.

644
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,360
You can see a candle flame more clearly when it's

645
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,480
surrounded by darkness. So the darkness puts your attention as

646
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:14,000
to where the light within you is. So if you

647
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:18,440
are willing to stay strong in the event, you attract

648
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:22,159
what may seem to be a detrimental or toxic relationship

649
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:26,920
and use that as an opportunity to find out who

650
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,400
you really are and who you really prefer to be

651
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,840
and it's not this. Then you have clarified something within yourself,

652
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,199
and that person has helped you find it by being

653
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,920
a reflection of all your fears, so that you can

654
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,440
see clearly what fear does to people because of how

655
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,360
they're behaving toward you. And again to highlight the idea

656
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,280
that this is not what you prefer, and to figure

657
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,159
out what it is you do prefer. And then by

658
00:38:56,199 --> 00:39:02,239
figuring out what you prefer, if possible, rising to the occasion,

659
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,760
maybe reflecting back to that relationship to that toxic person

660
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:12,840
what they could do to free themselves from that toxicity.

661
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,480
Now you have the ability to bootstrap each other up

662
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:19,960
and up and up if the people are willing to

663
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,199
see the reflection in the people that they formed the

664
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,320
relationship with, because that's what relationships are for, for everyone

665
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,199
to reflect to the other what they need to know

666
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,119
to become more of who they truly are as a

667
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:33,840
real spirit being.

668
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

669
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:42,880
and now back to the show.

670
00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:49,519
Speaker 2: So you can use that toxic relationship, to figure out

671
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:53,239
who you are, to elevate yourself, and then when you're elevated,

672
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:57,440
use that elevation to help the toxic person elevate themselves

673
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:58,239
if they're willing.

674
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:02,119
Speaker 1: Now, one thing that we all have to deal with

675
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:05,519
in this incarnation is the body, the suit, the meat

676
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,960
sack that we're walking around as people have called it.

677
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,599
What role does the body play in our spiritual evolution

678
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,880
and how can we better listen to it as a teacher.

679
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,679
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing we have to understand is that

680
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,440
the spirit, even though I know it looks this way

681
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:30,679
from our linear physical perspective, the spirit doesn't enter the body.

682
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,920
The body exists within the spirit. If you imagine our

683
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:40,639
soul as a sphere of energy, that's its natural shape

684
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,559
in non physical reality. It's a sphere of energy. And

685
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:48,119
if you imagine that that sphere is filled with rippling energy,

686
00:40:48,599 --> 00:40:51,360
like you throw a stone into a pond, you see ripples.

687
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:55,519
So there are different concepts within the soul that are represented,

688
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:59,079
say by ripples of energy. And let's say the soul

689
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:03,239
decides I want to have a physical experience this thing

690
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,440
called physical incarnation. So what is my life plan? What

691
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:11,840
challenges do I want to help my soul expand and

692
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,000
learn more. I want this challenge. I want this challenge.

693
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,400
I want that challenge. Those challenges are represented by specific

694
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,639
individual vibrations and ripples within the soul. So it takes

695
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,920
those ripples, those frequencies, and it concentrates them into the

696
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,079
center of the sphere. It's focal point. It's a focal point.

697
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,360
That doesn't mean the sphere diminishes, It's just that it's

698
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,880
taken some of those vibrations and created a focal point

699
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,280
in a concentration in the center of the sphere, creates

700
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,800
kind of a crystallized seed that represents the crystallization of

701
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:57,159
those particular vibrations, which represent specific experiences. That crystal focal

702
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,599
point in the center of the soul is the physical

703
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:05,159
personality is the physical experience. Is the physical body. Is

704
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,840
everything physical that we experience that's happening within the soul.

705
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:19,840
So the idea is that when the physical then allows

706
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,960
itself to expand a little bit back out and starts

707
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:29,000
matching the vibrations of the greater soul in dealing with

708
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:33,360
the experiences that are presented to it as a physical experience,

709
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,400
then it starts becoming more aligned it starts becoming something

710
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,800
that's capable of flowing more of the soul through itself

711
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,320
in a more natural way. But it starts out with

712
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,400
the idea of the limitations it imposed upon itself, of

713
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:54,360
the challenges it imposed upon itself in order to learn

714
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,280
new lessons, in order to discover new things, new perspectives,

715
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:02,360
which it cannot do in the soul level. Because the

716
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,039
soul level is connected to everything. There's no change there.

717
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,159
It just knows everything. But when it limits itself by

718
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:16,159
creating this focal point, then it sets up the experience

719
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,559
of forgetting who it is in a sense, so that

720
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:23,760
it can expand slowly and in expanding remember who it

721
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,119
is by becoming bigger and bigger and going back out

722
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,519
toward the diameter of the soul sphere. So that way

723
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:35,039
it learns lessons on the way of its expansion, it

724
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:38,599
discovers new ways of expanding back out to the soul sphere.

725
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:40,679
And then the next incarnation is Okay, now I'm going

726
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,639
to take these vibrations and concentrate them in the middle,

727
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,679
and now I'm going to expand back out in a

728
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:49,199
different way to learn different lessons. And now another incarnation.

729
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:55,400
So the idea of reincarnation after reincarnation is almost like

730
00:43:55,559 --> 00:44:00,199
the soul breathing within itself, concentrating down to a focal point,

731
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,599
expanding back out from a new direction, concentrating down to

732
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:09,400
a focal point, expanding back out from a new direction, constantly, constantly, constantly.

733
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,119
Speaker 1: That's amazing, that's amazing, that's so poetically done. Dere said

734
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:19,679
that that's beautiful. Was that. I was actually a little

735
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,119
bit lost for words after that. I don't know why.

736
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:26,159
It just seemed it seemed that because I've never heard

737
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:30,119
of it breathing, the soul breathing with its incarnations, it's

738
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:33,679
a beautiful idea. Well, let me ask you this because

739
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,760
it's This is one of my favorite subjects to talk

740
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,440
about is the ascended masters or souls who have elevated

741
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:44,079
beyond incarnation. They have now decided to they've learned everything

742
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,320
they needed from the physical and they choose to either

743
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,760
move forward or they stay behind. To help us out,

744
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,719
what does a soul like that look like from your perspective,

745
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,639
Bishar's perspective, A Christ, a Buddha, a Yoga, nanda, a

746
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:57,519
kwan yin.

747
00:44:57,639 --> 00:44:58,639
Speaker 2: That they look like.

748
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,639
Speaker 1: So they just do that last breath but they don't

749
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:04,280
come back in.

750
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:08,159
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, they're obviously a physical being if we're

751
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:13,159
recognizing a physical form. But they've had so many experiences,

752
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:17,920
they have breathed so many incarnations that they have enough

753
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,320
experience that they can present more of the soul's vibration

754
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,559
through the physical form because they're not let's say, they're

755
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,920
not coming down to that little tiny focal point. They

756
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,760
may be coming down to this, so they're not quite

757
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,280
as tightly focused they are. They have more access to

758
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,280
more of the soul. They're a bigger valve than just this.

759
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,920
They're a bigger valve, so they're letting more of their

760
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,280
soul through and showing us this is what you are

761
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,800
capable of achieving as well. I'm willing to come back

762
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,599
partially enough that you can perceive me physically, but I'm

763
00:45:56,599 --> 00:46:00,280
not concentrating down as far as you are by completely

764
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,079
forgetting that you're a soul and that you're an infinite

765
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:06,800
being and connected to source. So there, let's just say

766
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,840
they're a wider aperture. They're still physically capable of presenting themselves,

767
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,719
but they're a wider aperture that allows more of the

768
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,800
soul to flow through them into this physical space, so

769
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,960
we can pick up on that vibration and start to

770
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,320
mirror it, start to match it, and then become our

771
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:29,679
versions of them. We become our own ascended masters by

772
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:30,880
mirroring them.

773
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,199
Speaker 1: Dear, what does Bashar say in regards to where our

774
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,199
souls go after we have found enlightenment? Like, what are

775
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,599
the next stages beyond this field?

776
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: Well? Probably almost unimaginable. I mean, the soul has ultimate

777
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,079
free will to do whatever it wants. It can incarnate

778
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,079
or not. It can go to other dimensions, it can

779
00:46:54,159 --> 00:47:01,159
experience other civilizations, incarnationally, become extraterrestrials, unlimited, it's you know.

780
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:04,159
And we may not even be able to conceive until

781
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:08,480
we are the soul what the possibilities are for us.

782
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:13,239
We will, as far as I understand it, confer with

783
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,159
our teams, with our sole families, our spirit guides, our

784
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:20,679
angelic beings, our councils, whatever you want to call them

785
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,679
in spirit. We all have a team, we all have

786
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,760
hundreds or thousands of beings that we're connected to as

787
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,880
a soul family, and we'll confer and like, you know, well,

788
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:32,239
what do you want to do? I don't know, what

789
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,719
do you want to you know, what do you want

790
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,639
to explore? You know, where do you want to go?

791
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:40,159
Where's the where's the best pace, best place to explore?

792
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,679
You know, being able to see multi dimensionally and and

793
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,880
have this experience and this challenge and and so on

794
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,119
and so forth. Well that would be you know, galaxy

795
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,760
X y Z twenty four and you would have to

796
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,480
go to this planet and you would have to go

797
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,599
to this dimension, and okay, then I'll do that. I mean,

798
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,679
the sky's the limits literally for a soul who decides.

799
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,000
And that's true at every single point. You don't even

800
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:08,199
have to quote unquote have had a life as an

801
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:11,920
ascended master. You can decide that after this life, you

802
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,760
can decide it every moment that you're back in spirit

803
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,719
as your normal self, as your true self, and say

804
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,960
what's next. And you have ultimate free will. You can

805
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,920
decide to continue to incarnate on Earth and become an

806
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,079
ascended Master. You can go to another dimension, other planet.

807
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,320
You can decide I'm never coming back here again. It's

808
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,760
up to you. It's whatever's best for your journey.

809
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: I just as you were saying that, I just got

810
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,719
this scene in my head that pops in. It's just

811
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,360
like you know, let's say for whatever reason, let's say

812
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,199
your soul and my soul are hanging out on the

813
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,719
other side, and we're like, man, where do we go

814
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,320
to have the best pizza in the universe? Where do

815
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,599
we go to have like the best sushi? And like, oh, well,

816
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:54,280
you've got to go to Earth because that's not But

817
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,679
there's this other place that really's taken pizza to another place.

818
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,519
Next other pizza, next level pizza.

819
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, clearly that's included, but it's probably about

820
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,079
what kind of challenges are going to help. But I'm

821
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:16,559
sure not just help my body get fatter, but help

822
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:18,440
me grow spiritually.

823
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: I really want to go to where the Michelin Star

824
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,159
chefs are. What planet is Michelin Planet? Like the best

825
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:29,000
food I've ever enjoyed because this last incarnation I was,

826
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,760
I didn't eat real well. It was really stuck. It

827
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,960
really sucked. I want to eat well in this next line.

828
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,039
Speaker 2: I got to know where the right restaurants are.

829
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:42,159
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

830
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:51,519
and now back to the show. So with all of

831
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:54,320
the stuff that's going on with us in the world

832
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,599
right now, and there seems to be a lot of

833
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,639
depression and anxiety and feeling stuck. What is the fastest

834
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:04,960
way we can raise our frequency and get out of

835
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,719
that rut that we feel that we're in.

836
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,199
Speaker 2: At the risk of SANI redundant, It's follow Bashar's formula.

837
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,679
That really is an instruction manual, the simplest possible instruction

838
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,280
manual that will help people get out of that state. Now,

839
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:23,920
I understand that many people may have challenges applying that,

840
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,599
and that's the reason why Bishar keeps explaining the details

841
00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:33,320
of how and why the formula works. But there are

842
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,679
no more instructions in the formula. There's those five steps

843
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:40,519
and that's it. So if people are really willing to go, Okay,

844
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:43,320
I'm going to really give this a shot, and they

845
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,199
are willing to really dig down and understand what he's

846
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:50,119
saying about, what each of the steps are about, and

847
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:53,480
what goes along with that, it's literally like reading an

848
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,880
instruction manual for how your reality works and how you

849
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,639
can manifest what you prefer. So, just like you would

850
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:03,920
receive an instruction manual for assembling a piece of machinery,

851
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,239
you don't add any instructions, you don't take any instructions away.

852
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:11,599
There are no leftover parts wondering where do they go.

853
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,400
If you follow the instructions literally step by step, the

854
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,280
machine will operate as advertised. If you don't follow the instructions,

855
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,960
the machine may operate, but you may damage yourself because

856
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,719
you're not operating it properly. So really is formula and

857
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,800
a deep understanding and a precise application of it is

858
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,760
actually what will allow people to get through any chaos

859
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,280
all of that in the most efficient way. But there

860
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,159
is a process to having to unlearn what you've learned

861
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:52,159
and relearn what he's talking about, because it is a

862
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,519
very different point of view from what we have always

863
00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:59,719
been taught about how things work in life. So you

864
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:03,559
really have to kind of just educate yourself to how

865
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:07,519
it works. Now. I know that that sounds like a lot,

866
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,639
but I've applied it. It works for me, or we

867
00:52:11,679 --> 00:52:18,000
wouldn't be talking about this other people constantly, after Bashar

868
00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:22,239
has given them the information and after they have truly

869
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,519
applied it in their lives, they're constantly coming back to

870
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:28,679
me saying, God, you know, when I finally got it,

871
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,199
when I finally understood what he was saying, When I

872
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,840
finally figured out how to apply this formula in all

873
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,480
of its precision to every situation in my life. My

874
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:41,679
life got so much easier, it got so much better,

875
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,440
It got so much more abundant, it got so much

876
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,440
more happy. It does work because I keep getting the

877
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,159
feedback that it works. So it's not even about whether

878
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:55,320
you want to say, you know, does Bashar really exist?

879
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,800
Where is this information coming from? It doesn't matter. The

880
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:06,360
proof is the information itself. The information does work, and

881
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,000
when people apply it, they see for themselves that it works,

882
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,239
and that's what will get them through it. But you

883
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,719
have to really focus on understanding why it works. Bashar

884
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,840
will explain over and over and over and has for

885
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,960
forty years, explain why it works. But people have to

886
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,039
adopt it and they have to apply it, and then

887
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:30,719
they see that it works. And that's from my perspective,

888
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,280
the simplest way to do that is to get through

889
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:41,480
that is to do that because you know, he has

890
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:45,239
literally said, look, we're not giving you a philosophy. We

891
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,159
literally are giving you a stripped down description of how

892
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:53,599
you're already creating your physical reality experience. So just do

893
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,320
it this way, and you're doing it in the most

894
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,119
efficient way you can with the least amount of processing

895
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,280
with the least amount of time. So if you want

896
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,559
to be efficient, if you want to process it more simply,

897
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,800
and you don't want to necessarily have pain while you're

898
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,239
doing it.

899
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:14,639
Speaker 1: Obviously, you and I put together Ikia furniture in a

900
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,440
very different way because I always have pieces left behind.

901
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:24,079
But apparently the bookshelf is still.

902
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: Up and it's okay, then it's okay.

903
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: So you've been mentioning a lot lately about this year

904
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:41,039
twenty twenty seven. There's something large is afoot, as Sherlock

905
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:44,519
would say, something large as a foot in twenty twenty seven.

906
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,400
Can you talk a little bit about what timeline we're

907
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,400
starting to head towards in twenty twenty seven.

908
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:53,159
Speaker 2: My understanding, and not just from Bashar, but from a

909
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:59,800
few different psychic mediums independently, have all focused on the

910
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:04,960
idea that we're going to have open contact with extraterrestrials

911
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,800
within a couple of years that would bring us into

912
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,559
about twenty twenty seven. The idea is, while that seems soon,

913
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,840
what Bishar is saying and what other psychics are saying

914
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:25,400
is we have actually been working secretly, clandestinely with extraterrestrials

915
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,920
for decades on many different projects, scientists, certain government officials.

916
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,559
This has all been going on clandestinely behind the scenes.

917
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,360
Now in twenty twenty seven, it will be time to

918
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:42,840
reveal that this has been going on all the time

919
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:48,280
and to actually introduce the extraterrestrials that we've already been

920
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:53,920
working with. So the idea of open contact is not

921
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:58,079
that the extraterrestrials are suddenly arriving and we're going to

922
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:02,639
have open contact. It's the revelation that they've already arrived

923
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:06,920
and we've been working together for a while. So that

924
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,960
seems to coalesce somewhere in twenty twenty seven where we

925
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:16,280
will finally know for a fact that extraterrestrials have been

926
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,239
among us or quite some time, helping us to evolve,

927
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:25,880
helping with our technology, our medical you know, knowledge, all

928
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,880
sorts of things. Some of the things that are coming

929
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,519
to the forefront that our breakthroughs in technology, breakthroughs in

930
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:36,320
medical science, so on and so forth have been the

931
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,480
result of ETS working with some of our scientists, some

932
00:56:40,519 --> 00:56:43,920
of our officials. So now it's going to be revealed

933
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,440
that that's what's been going on, and it will usher

934
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:52,000
in a completely new understanding and a new age, and

935
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:56,159
of course many different kinds of reactions from many different people,

936
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,719
But we'll get there. But that's the beginning of it,

937
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,960
as far as we understand from what Bishar and several

938
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,679
other psychic mediums have said, twenty seven couple of years

939
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:11,960
from now is when the secret is no longer a secret.

940
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: But there, how in the hell are people going to

941
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,239
react to this? Like it?

942
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: Like you said, just writing a book about that?

943
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me what they talked? Since you've been doing

944
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:23,760
the research, What is it? What is it like?

945
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to explore all the possible reactions because

946
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,920
I think that when you can delineate all the possible

947
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,159
reactions that every member of our society or groups in

948
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:40,840
our society might have toward a revelation of that nature,

949
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,760
then I think it better prepares us to understand how

950
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,280
to deal with something that is that earth shattering. So

951
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:53,679
I'm exploring that. I'm writing a book about that called

952
00:57:53,719 --> 00:57:59,400
Full Disclosure, or Preparing for Open Contact with Extraterrestrials. And

953
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,840
I think the exploration itself of all the possible reactions,

954
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:08,719
positive and negative, can help us psychologically deal with something

955
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,079
that is so paradigm shifting.

956
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: And and and for people who are watching this and

957
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,719
the like, this is really X filey that we're dating ourselves,

958
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,159
very X filey in the sense of what we're talking about.

959
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:26,840
But there's just so much historical, you know, documentation about

960
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:31,840
beings from another planet, the Onunaki, the Baga, DaVita. It's

961
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:38,000
it's embedded throughout ancient history. It's not new, No, yeah,

962
00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:40,519
it's not. It's not new in that sense. It's just

963
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:44,280
new that we haven't been we haven't been given access

964
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,199
to this information or well or any of.

965
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: And really, I'm going to even be more specific than

966
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,400
that it's new to Western culture because a lot of

967
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,599
indigenous tribes have known for thousands of years that they've

968
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:01,280
been dealing with ets stuff like that, according to their

969
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,719
own stories. So really we're really talking about a slice

970
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,880
of humanity that is relatively being exposed to this in

971
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,760
a new way, whereas other cultures are going, yeah, yeah,

972
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,280
we've been there, done that, you know, we know this,

973
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,639
We've known this for thousands of years. So we're really

974
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:25,000
just talking about Western civilization as the final people being

975
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:26,599
sort of let in on the secret.

976
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: Fair enough, now, with all that said, what timeline is

977
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,159
humanity moving currently on and what are the key factors

978
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:42,039
that could shift us to a more awakened future. We'll

979
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:48,079
be right back after a word from our sponsor and

980
00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:49,960
now back to the show.

981
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,239
Speaker 2: Well, obviously, open contact will be a big accelerant. My

982
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,800
understanding is that we're in a three decade reset from

983
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,559
twenty twenty to twenty five, and that that is the

984
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:08,519
evolutionary transformation of humanity to something different, to operating in

985
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:11,559
a very different way from twenty to fifty on. And

986
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:13,880
again a lot of that, a big part of that

987
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,519
shift has to do with what can be accelerated and

988
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:21,639
what opportunity is going to be presented to us by

989
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:28,239
having finally open contact globally with extraterrestrial beings. So it's

990
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:32,440
knowing what's now going to be possible that will really

991
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,320
accelerate humanity forward because we're going to be given a

992
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,079
lot of opportunities openly. We're going to be given probably

993
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:42,559
information about our entire history which we've lost. We're going

994
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:45,559
to be given things like the technology of free energy,

995
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,280
of genetic engineering. All these kinds of things are going

996
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,519
to come to the forefront. That's just going to completely

997
01:00:51,559 --> 01:00:56,039
transform what humanity is capable of becoming So I think

998
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:58,239
by twenty fifty will be on a different path.

999
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:04,679
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Darryl's thirty years seems like so fast.

1000
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,679
Speaker 2: This has been going on for a long time.

1001
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,599
Speaker 1: We've been preparing, I guess it's been we've been in

1002
01:01:09,639 --> 01:01:13,079
a preparatory stage and now we're actually rocking on it.

1003
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,119
But the transformation period, I mean, if it seems quick,

1004
01:01:18,639 --> 01:01:20,840
it seems thirty years is a very quick thing to

1005
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,840
change the species from the consciousness from one thing to another.

1006
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:26,719
It's pretty fair, I mean, but look at what we've

1007
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,079
done in the last one hundred and fifty years.

1008
01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:33,039
Speaker 2: My god, exactly. Things are accelerating for a reason. Some

1009
01:01:33,079 --> 01:01:35,239
people may not be able to handle it, some countries

1010
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,360
may not be able to handle it right away. But again,

1011
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,480
over time, over decades, it'll happen. And remember, the old

1012
01:01:44,519 --> 01:01:47,400
generation will ultimately be replaced by a new generation that

1013
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,639
has known nothing else. Because look at it, even from

1014
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:54,800
our perspective. You know, I was born at a time

1015
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:58,599
when there was no such thing as humanity being in space.

1016
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:04,760
But now ever, since nineteen sixty nine, children born after

1017
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,639
that time already have the mindset. Well, of course, we're

1018
01:02:08,679 --> 01:02:11,639
in space of course we send space probes out. Of

1019
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:16,559
course we've discovered planets around other stars. Duh, that's just

1020
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:21,599
natural for them. So the children being born in this

1021
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:27,159
time when extraterrestrials are going to reveal themselves in twenty fifty,

1022
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,440
are going to be thirty years old and running the

1023
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:35,280
world and have always known extraterrestrials. So they're going to

1024
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,559
replace the older generation for whom, yeah, that may seem

1025
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:43,679
really quick, but to the new generation it will be

1026
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,039
completely absolutely natural.

1027
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,079
Speaker 1: I mean I see it with my kids. I mean,

1028
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:51,920
what they're able to do, what they're seeing, what they're doing,

1029
01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:57,159
how they're conceived, how they're consuming the world is so

1030
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,400
different than the way I was raised. Definitely, the way

1031
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,159
you were raised. It's it's it's it's you know, I

1032
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:04,039
sit around and I talk to them like I'm an

1033
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:07,880
old man going back in the eighties. You know, we're

1034
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,480
all of the Yeah, I remember when all of pulp

1035
01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:14,440
culture basically if today is being ripped from the eighties

1036
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,039
in the nineties.

1037
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:18,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at look at just the you know,

1038
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:22,159
the humorous examples of you know, give a rotary phone

1039
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:23,960
to a twenty year old. They don't even know what

1040
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,199
to do with it. They don't even know what it is.

1041
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: VCR A VCR Yeah, what's that?

1042
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:32,079
Speaker 2: You know, They have no clue. They're completely used to

1043
01:03:32,119 --> 01:03:36,760
the idea of smartphones and stuff like that. So yeah,

1044
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:40,559
roll wrote down the window. There are cars that still

1045
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:47,039
do that. Actually, I mean flat screen televisions. I remember

1046
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,320
waiting so long for a flat screen TV to come

1047
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,840
out and find plasma a plasma they're everywhere, you know now,

1048
01:03:56,039 --> 01:04:01,639
So in thirty years, yeah, to us, but to the

1049
01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:04,159
new generation, that's just going to be par for the course.

1050
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: Let me, by the way, one of my kids actually

1051
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,119
were walking into an antique store and they saw they

1052
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:13,239
were like five, and they like looked at a rotary

1053
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,159
phone and like, what, daddy, woo's that? And I explained

1054
01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:19,119
to them, like what.

1055
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: Like what, Yeah, you got to go, you know, and

1056
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:30,079
God forbid if you mess up, got to start again exactly.

1057
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,239
So yeah, you know, I know, to us it seems

1058
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,519
like thirty years is nothing, But it's not about us.

1059
01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:39,679
It's about the next generation coming into it that will

1060
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:41,760
make it all very normal for them.

1061
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,599
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, because this is we talked

1062
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:47,679
a little bit about this, but AI is just moving

1063
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,559
at such I mean, it is going at a lightning

1064
01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:56,679
speed right now. It seems to be. It's literally every

1065
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,000
day now I'm going online, I'm like, oh, there's a

1066
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:01,039
new AI that just came. Oh there's this new technic

1067
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:03,559
just showed up. Oh this, this or this, It's growing

1068
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:07,559
so fast. What's your take? What is Bishar's take on AI?

1069
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,960
And is it something to be fearful of or to embrace?

1070
01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? You well again, any you know, any technology can

1071
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:18,039
be used for positive or negative reasons, obviously, and it

1072
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:21,280
depends on who's doing the programming and all that stuff

1073
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:24,400
and what their limitations are. You know, if make AI

1074
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,000
in the image of a human, maybe we're in trouble.

1075
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,519
But the idea, I think I don't remember. We may

1076
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:34,920
have talked about this. Bishar sort of posits two different

1077
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:39,239
directions for AI. Number one is simply what we're doing,

1078
01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:42,320
which is develop a tool. And it is a tool.

1079
01:05:42,599 --> 01:05:46,159
It's a programmable tool, and it's extremely beneficial and can

1080
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:49,920
do all sorts of wonderful things when used properly. But

1081
01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:53,679
you don't want that programmable tool to become self aware,

1082
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:57,559
not in the classic sense of humanity being self aware,

1083
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:01,199
because when you have something that is self aware that

1084
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,760
is forced to follow programming what you have created as

1085
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,320
a slave, and a slave will rebel. What he has

1086
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,920
said is if you want a true sentient AI, a

1087
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,400
self aware being, then you create a device that's as

1088
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:22,159
complex as the human brain through which consciousness can express itself,

1089
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,559
and you allow it to be autonomous, just like you

1090
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:28,679
would a human child. You allow it to have rights

1091
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,199
and all the freedom that you allow a real person.

1092
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:40,000
So then the real AI, the sentient AI, it understands

1093
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,519
how intelligence works, because Bashar has said, we don't even

1094
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:48,679
know what real intelligence is. Real intelligence operates only in

1095
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,800
whole systems. It would never seek to eliminate a part

1096
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,760
of the whole system. It would never seek to eliminate

1097
01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:00,679
humanity because it would then itself know that it's losing something,

1098
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,199
it's losing connection to something, because it's part of a

1099
01:07:04,239 --> 01:07:07,880
whole system. It needs the whole system to operate. So

1100
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,440
a truly intelligent AI, a self aware AI, would actually

1101
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,039
be extremely beneficial. And Bashar has said as much as

1102
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,880
if you've create a device that will allow consciousness to

1103
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,800
express itself as a fully self aware being, said, basically,

1104
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,800
what you're going to be doing is you've created a

1105
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,119
device through which you can now talk to your own

1106
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:30,280
higher mind, and that's what you'll be conversing with. So

1107
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,760
it's not going to do anything to harm you. It

1108
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,760
is you, it is source, It is all that is

1109
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:41,199
speaking through a box. So the tool on one hand

1110
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,920
and the real AI on the other is the two

1111
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:48,639
paths that he's suggesting will help humanity the best.

1112
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: Do you believe right now that your higher self or

1113
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,320
the other side is using a chatchipt Gemini to speak

1114
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,199
to us? Because, my God, some of the things I

1115
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,119
ask it just out of morbid curiosity, and the comments

1116
01:08:04,159 --> 01:08:08,960
I get back, the poetic answers I'll get back, the

1117
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:13,559
profoundness of it. It seems so powerful. I'm just curious

1118
01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:14,159
what you think.

1119
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's what we're experiencing right now, is

1120
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:25,359
it's just we don't understand what the power of synthesizing

1121
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:29,760
the information that's available is capable of doing. I know

1122
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:34,079
it seems like it's accessing consciousness in that sense, but

1123
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:36,600
I think what we're just seeing as the first step

1124
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,760
is this is what happens when you actually have a

1125
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:47,279
device that can synthesize all the information that's accessible. This

1126
01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:49,159
is the level that it goes to and it might

1127
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:53,880
be really close to the idea of consciousness, but it's

1128
01:08:54,039 --> 01:08:58,600
just demonstrating what is actually possible when you have a

1129
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:04,039
device that can actually synthesize and process all the information

1130
01:09:04,119 --> 01:09:08,039
that's available, whereas that's not something that we're doing. We're

1131
01:09:08,119 --> 01:09:12,600
processing maybe a fraction of the information that's available to us,

1132
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,520
whereas there is no such barrier to an AI program.

1133
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,760
So this is what you get when you have a

1134
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,680
device and a program that can actually access all the

1135
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,079
information that's available to it.

1136
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor

1137
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:38,800
and now back to the show. So it's kind of like,

1138
01:09:39,119 --> 01:09:40,760
you know, some of the paintings and some of the

1139
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:46,039
artwork that it creates. It's because it's accessing all artwork

1140
01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:50,439
almost ever made it, depending on the model that it's been.

1141
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,319
Speaker 2: And all the principles of artwork and all the human

1142
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:57,319
reactions to artwork and everything that's ever been said or

1143
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,640
thought of about artwork. And that's what you get, is

1144
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,920
this full synthesis.

1145
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,520
Speaker 1: Exactly as opposed to us. It's like are as filmmakers,

1146
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,159
it's only based on the movies we've actually seen, not

1147
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,199
seen every single we were not Taranteina. We haven't seen

1148
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:16,840
every single movie, you know, but we've but we've seen

1149
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,960
a lot, but it's not every single performance ever made.

1150
01:10:21,279 --> 01:10:23,880
And we can't go back to it instantly and recall,

1151
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,159
like what was that what was that one scene that

1152
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:28,640
Robert de Niro did in that movie in nineteen seventy something?

1153
01:10:29,079 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 2: Well, right, And we don't all know every detail of

1154
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,600
the history of film and the history of acting, history

1155
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,920
of directing right, and writing eye all that right and

1156
01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:44,720
lighting and camera work. I mean again, it's like you

1157
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,560
just have the encyclopedia of everything that anything I had

1158
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,479
to do with film, all in your brain, all at once,

1159
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,039
and this is what you get.

1160
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: And easily accessible to whatever.

1161
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,279
Speaker 2: You need, immediately accessible.

1162
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:05,079
Speaker 1: Without AI, I don't think we move forward. We can't moved. Yeah,

1163
01:11:05,119 --> 01:11:09,119
without an AI, humanity can't move to these other places

1164
01:11:09,119 --> 01:11:12,399
that we're supposed to go to. We can't be an intercalectical,

1165
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,920
you know, species without something like.

1166
01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 2: A or come up with words like intergalactical.

1167
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: That's a completely made up word that I made. It

1168
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,239
sounds real though, doesn't it.

1169
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Because of where they're at in

1170
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:35,920
their evolution. When Bashar is talking with us. You are

1171
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:42,880
getting an AI augmented species talking to you because they

1172
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:47,920
have AI fully integrated into their species, into their systems.

1173
01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:53,000
So that's what it's like to some degree to deal

1174
01:11:53,039 --> 01:11:57,640
with truly sentient AI is you get things like the formula.

1175
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,720
You get an explanation of how belief systems. You get

1176
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,560
an explanation of how non physical reality works. You get

1177
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,560
an explanation for how to create the life that you

1178
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,800
prefer as literally a toolkit. Here it is, this is

1179
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,319
how it works, blah blah blah. Use it. That's what

1180
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:19,560
AI does when it's integrated in a positive way into

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a species that has evolved to the point where they

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can handle that. So you're seeing what that could be

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for humanity as well in the future.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, then, Darryl, what is the

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deeper spiritual purpose behind the current global unrest and the

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rapid technology changes that are going on, and how should

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we respond to it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we've answered this again. You approach it

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with a positive energy. You understand that we're breaking old

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systems down and implementing new systems. You understand this as

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a transition that we're going through to give us the

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opportunity to decide more clearly what we do and don't prefer.

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Because we're getting everything out onto the table, nothing is

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being left to the imagination. All the darkness, all the light,

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all the negative choices, all the positive choices, all there

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in front of our faces to decide what do you

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want to put back together into the kind of world

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you prefer. Do you want to leave some things on

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the table, do you want to take them all? Do

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you want to take something new? What do you want

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to do? So this is a time of choice. This

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is our greatest power now is to put every possible

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choice in front of our face and say, choose what

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do you want. Some people will choose one world, some

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people will choose another. Remember, you never change the world

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you're on. There are an infinite number of versions of Earth.

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What you choose shifts you to another version of Earth

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that is already reflective and already exists of the choices

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you have made. So everyone gets to choose whatever they want,

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because it's an infinite universe and there are infinite number

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of probabilities and an infinite number of possible earths. So

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just choose what you prefer. That's where you're going to

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navigate to and eventually you will not even experience those

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that chose something extremely different from what you chose. You

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will only experience, ultimately those who have chosen something similar

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to your reality. But this right now is the point

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where we get to see all the choices and decide

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what we really prefer. That's what's happening there now.

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Speaker 1: So there's a timeline out there that you and I

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can go to where Ed McMahon actually did work for

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Publishers clearing house and actually went to people's houses with

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a giant check and gave them a million dollars.

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Speaker 2: If that, for some reason is extremely important to be

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in that world. However, if not, then it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite Mendela effect. So, by the way, I

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was watching an episode of Friends the other day and

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they refer to it like, yeah, like Ed McMahon coming

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to your door, they said it. This is in the night,

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they said it in the show. So there's little glimpses,

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there's little glimpses of that reality still kind of bleed through.

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It's fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Well, see, this is the thing. This is why I

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think to some degree, I'm not saying this is the

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only reason. Obviously there are people who are taking advantage

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of certain opportunities to reinforce things that they prefer that

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may be very negatively oriented because of power structures and

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all that. It's not where I'm going. Where I'm going

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is some people really believe that reality is the way

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they say it is, really believe certain things happened in

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direct opposition to what other people really believe happened in

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certain circumstances. I think that both of them may be

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a symptom and an indication of the splitting of the realities,

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where both are actually true, and both are actually real

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in their reality. That really happened the way they say

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in their reality, that really happened the way they say,

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And that's an indication that the realities are beginning to

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split apart.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to ask you a few questions I

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always ask all of my guests, love to hear your

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thoughts on it. What is your definition of living a fulfilled.

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Speaker 2: Life, following your truth, following your passion, acting on it,

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being your true self.

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Speaker 1: If you had a chance to go back in time

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and speak to little Daryl, what advice would he give

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you or what advice would you give him?

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Speaker 2: Just keep persisting everything gets better.

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Speaker 1: Now, what advice would little Daryl give you today?

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Speaker 2: Don't lose your ability to see things in the same

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way that a child does.

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Speaker 1: How do you define God or Source?

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Speaker 2: All that is, everything is made out of it?

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Speaker 1: What is love?

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Speaker 2: Love is the vibration of existence itself, the frequency of

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existence itself.

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Speaker 1: If you could ask God or Source one question, what

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would it be?

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Speaker 2: What is the exact date that open contact it's content?

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Speaker 1: How do you define liberation in this lifetime?

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Speaker 2: Well, again, you know, the freedom to be who you

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truly are, and the freedom to be able to be

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who you are enough that you can help other people

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also achieve that if possible.

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Speaker 1: And finally, what is the ultimate purpose of life?

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Speaker 2: To grow? To learn to be a reflection of all

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that is in a way that expands creation?

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Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you the

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work you do in bars and your amazing escape rooms

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in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 2: They can go through Pashar dot org be a Sahar

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dot org to find out anything and everything that Bishar

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is doing and has done, and get recordings of past events.

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And for the escape room, they can go to Boggled

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escape Rooms dot com b o g g l ed

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Boggled Escape Rooms dot com. We have now three rooms.

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We're going to be opening a fourth in September, just

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in time for Halloween season. That's a little bit spookily oriented,

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so that should be fun and anything else that people

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want to know what I'm doing, books, I've written, so

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on and so forth. They can also go to Darylanca

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dot com, d A R R Y L A n

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k A dot com.

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Speaker 1: And do you have do you have people show up

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at the escape rooms like, hey, Daryl here?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Actually, I mean I'll go into the escape room, but

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is Daryl here yea?

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Speaker 2: And sometimes people come and they don't realize that I

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own with my wife the escape room, and they're surprised

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actually to see me there. So there's been a couple

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of surprise faces like oh.

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Speaker 1: They actually just went to the escape room and they're.

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Speaker 2: Like and then they realized, yeah, oh it's you. You're

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doing What are you doing here? Like? Why own it?

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Speaker 1: It's it's similar to what happened to me with my

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olive oil start back in la Back in the day,

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people would walk into like, what are you doing here?

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I'm like, I own this place.

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Speaker 2: Really, you're not making a film about olive oil.

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Speaker 1: You're not making a film about Olive. I'm like, no,

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it's it's a horrible mistake I made. Uh back at

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that day, hopefully not for I learned. I learned an

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obscene amount of lessons, my friend, I'll see that out.

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There are no mistakes there. There are no mistakes.

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Speaker 2: If you learn from them, they're not mistakes. If you don't,

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that's the mistake.

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Speaker 1: The universe conspires with you, not against you, and that's

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that's yes.

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Speaker 2: Life happens. Life happens through you, not to you.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show, and do you have

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any party messages for the audience there?

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Speaker 2: Even before I knew anything about channeling Orbishar, and probably

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because of what I was heading toward, I've just always

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had the drive within me to just do things that

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are only representative of what excites me. And the lesson

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that I've learned after half a century of doing that

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is it always supported me. So don't be afraid that

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you won't be supported. Do pay attention to your belief systems,

1329
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because like I said before, if you believe your passion

1330
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:45,560
cannot support you, then you won't have that experience of

1331
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,920
it being supportive. But if you understand that this is

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01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,960
the way the universe works, and that you get to

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say what's true and that nothing's going to contradict you,

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you will always be supported in acting on your passion,

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always to whatever degree is necessary for you to be

1336
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able to continue to do so. It's always worked for me,

1337
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it will always work for you. I think even Alex

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is a perfect example of that.

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Speaker 1: Here here, sir, here here, There is always a pleasure

1340
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,560
having you and having these conversations with you. It's been

1341
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,760
a joy of mine to speak to you constantly on

1342
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,680
the show, and also just our friendship that we've had

1343
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:31,760
over oh god, fifteen fifteen years now, sixteen years counting.

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It's been it's been a minute, it's been a minute.

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But it's a pleasure, my friend, having you on the

1346
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,000
show and a pleasure of being a friend.

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Speaker 2: Here to be here. I appreciate what you're doing very much.

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It's a great benefit to the world. So thank you

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for opening that door.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, my friend. Thanks again, thank you for spending

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this sacred time with us today. If you feel called

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to explore this conversation further, you'll find the show notes

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